FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 21 September 2026

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Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
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Speaker 2: Live from Hindmarsh Square, it's 5AA Breakfast. Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 3: Night after six, good morning to you. Welcome to Monday on 5AA Breakfast. Welcome to Grand Final Week. If you hate warm weather, you're going to hate this week and the week ahead. We're going to talk a lot about weather this morning, I suspect, because I cannot recall a better grand final barbecue forecast. It is absolutely spectacular. We'll talk about that. Pretty good weekend just gone. Even better for Fraser Darcy, who won the City Bay half marathon version, the 21K as opposed to the 12K. He'll be joining us just before 7 o'clock this morning. Is Australia going to be joining the UN Security Council? Really intriguing pitch the Prime Minister is putting. This is not about necessarily Australia's capacity to resolve major power disputes between the US and China or Europe and Russia, but more so because the Prime Minister is pitching us as the sort of middle power that should be at the table when AI becomes the big talking point for the UN Security Council. So we'll discuss that after 6.30 this morning. Flu season has had a late, late surge this year. Adelaide GP, Dr Emily Kirkpatrick, will join. Influenza A has done serious damage to the Goodings and extended family over the course of the last fortnight. It is out there, folks. Toop and Toop. We'll talk real estate with the great people at Toop and Toop. Big breaking date this morning as well. I'm looking forward to you being part of the show. Good morning, dear Stace.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, Will.
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Speaker 3: Magnificent weather. What's your ideal weather day? Do you have it in your picture in your mind? What does it look like?
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Speaker 4: Like a date?
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Speaker 3: Temperature?
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Speaker 5: Hmm.
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Speaker 3: I'd say 30.
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Speaker 6: 30?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So this weekend is a– in fact, let's start– so Wednesday of this week, we'll do an early weather look through. 25, 29 Thursday, 28 Friday, 28 Saturday, 30 on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 3: It is spectacular. That is just– to me, 28 is the absolute pinnacle of barbecue weather.
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Speaker 4: I think my ideal changes. Right now, it could be anything above. Yes. Height of summer? Anything below 35?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 4: When you're in the 40-degree days in a row, you think, oh, I'd take just below 35 right now.
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Speaker 3: What is your perfect grand final day forecast, folks? If you could put in like a bid right now, if Mother Nature was saying, oh, well, whatever the most popular return is on 5AA Breakfast on Monday the 21st of September is what I'm going to deliver. What would you say? I think I might just say a 28-degree day. I should drill down a bit to see. No chance of rain, light winds. I mean, come on. Perfect. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 4: That's everything you want.
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Speaker 3: What would you ask for, folks? There'll be a few people out there that I know a couple that would be sorry to see winter disappear. There's a few icicles out there. I reckon if David was sitting here, he would say, oh, no, get it to 35.
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Speaker 4: Oh, he likes it hotter.
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Speaker 3: Likes it much hotter. If you could order a weather day for your grand final barbecue, 8223 0000 or text us on 024808 1395, like Julian Glandor has. And you know what? Red Legs fans, take your victory lap. Do it. Julie says, go the mighty Red Legs. Can you please play the soundbite of the protest who famously said, up yours, Pembo? Lucky for David, he wasn't the country witness. No, he wasn't. I did notice. I did notice. Hang on, do we have it?
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Speaker 7: Up yours, Bimbo.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's unkind. He actually put up a video. I don't know if people saw this. before the Sturt Football Club, as he's their now international ambassador, wishing them all the best, but you're not going to understand it. I think he says in the name of the father, the son and Jack Oti. Which that sort of blasphemy clearly did not do Sturt any benefit on the weekend, although up until three quarter time it was looking Fairly solid. But yeah, take your victory laps, folks. Lots of talk about footy this morning, I suspect. Andrew says, two cracking AFL prelims and a cracking SAFL granny. An awesome weekend of football.
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Speaker 4: They were good games for someone who just watches along and wasn't invested in any of the teams.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the neutrals. It was great for neutrals. Do you know who it was really bad for? People who are Hawthorne and Sturt supporters. Do you know who is a Hawthorne and Sturt supporter?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Our producer... Patrick Goldsmith. So folks, just look, great weekend for weather. Maybe your footy team run you up and out. If you call into 5AA Breakfast this morning on 8223 0000, just be gentle with Paddy. He's a bit fragile. He's also a Celtic fan and they got rolled by Rangers last night as well. Literally, it's hard to imagine that anyone has had a worse sporting year this decade than Paddy has just had in the last 72 hours. Went over to the prelim for it.
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Speaker 4: He went to Melbourne and It was a fly-in, fly-out trip for that. I'm surprised he's here. I actually think that work was an upside for him. He thought, well, at least I've got something to look forward to, waking up early on Monday and working with Will Stace and Jess.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the alarm going off was actually only the fourth worst thing that had happened to him this weekend. Yuri and Beaumont, what's your perfect weather day? If you could order one for the grand final Saturday.
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Speaker 5: Okay. Go the legs, we are champions. As you can hear by my voice, it was a hell of a good day. My perfect forecast was yesterday, 23, Adelaide Oval, needing to win five goals in the third, last quarter to beat Sturt, and we did it. Sorry, my bright pembo, but there can only be one winner, and it's the mighty red legs.
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Speaker 1: Go the legs.
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Speaker 3: You can take your victory lap. It's all right. It was remarkable to come from behind and Sturt, it stopped to a walk, but Nord just looked like they were finishing full of running. Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 8: Good morning, Will and Stace.
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Speaker 9: You know, my old adage is I'd rather be in the arena than on the outer. So as a competitor, I'd rather see it 21-20 as a player. I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: 25.
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Speaker 3: Okay. That's a good way. I actually haven't looked at the Melbourne forecast. Maybe we'll do that very quickly now because... Um, that's, I was only worried about the barbecue. I hadn't really thought about the match itself.
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Speaker 4: I wonder how many people we have going over from Adelaide.
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Speaker 3: Well, we might have, we're going to, we're going to have two more when we eventually award our grand final ticket competition clue on Friday. We got their first double guess on Friday, which is to say someone had guessed something that already been guessed. Adelaide groaned. Uh, there's another chance this morning. Stay listening. Uh, the clues aren't too far away. So next week, uh, So Friday for the parade in Melbourne, it's going to be 28 with a possible shower. But then there's a massive change. So the grand final day itself, 19 with maybe a bit of rain, about zero to three millimetres of rain.
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Speaker 4: Gosh, Melbourne weather sucks.
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Speaker 3: Classic Melbourne, 28 one day, 19 the next. They're whole weeks like that. Today, 15. And then by Thursday, it's 26. It's just all over the shop.
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Speaker 4: You know who else will be waking up disappointed today? Mm-hmm. probably extra disappointed.
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Speaker 3: Rick Davies.
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Speaker 4: Remember we spoke to him on Friday and he said he was also going for the Hawks on the weekend.
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Speaker 3: He was. It's probably raining in Queensland as well.
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Speaker 4: It's probably raining. He hasn't got a game of golf in yet. He's been there for seven weeks waiting for a nice day for the golf.
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Speaker 3: If Jumbo didn't get to play golf on this weekend, he's had a goldsmith. We're going to call it a goldsmith. If three of your teams lose in a weekend, it's called a goldsmith from now on. Now, I was hoping that Ben Jordan would appear. Our resident statsman, the five days from Wednesday this week are on track to be the warmest in September since 1987. Wow. So our warmest grand final week lead up in nearly 40 years. The third hottest, this is even a better stat, the third hottest since 1888. The only time that sort of bests at 1944. So this is rarefied air, ladies and gentlemen, with the kind of week we've got ahead. 8223 0000. If you'd like to order something different or you'd like to tweak the 28-degree forecast we've got for Saturday, let us know. Or you can text us on 044808 1395.
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Speaker 4: Or tell us when you've had a goldsmith of a weekend.
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Speaker 3: Or when have you had a goldsmith?
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Speaker 4: Where everything's gone wrong.
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Speaker 3: Just call in and wish Paddy all the best. Cheer him up for us.
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Speaker 7: Knock down. Build two.
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Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
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Speaker 7: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 2: This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: 22 minutes after six. I'll tell you what, the forecast makes some beautiful readings. What doesn't is the RAA Fuel Watch app this morning.
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Speaker 6: $ 2.
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Speaker 3: 30 is sort of the midpoint of In fact, if you can get unleaded for $ 2. 30 this morning, you're doing really well.
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Speaker 2: $ 2.
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Speaker 6: 30.
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Speaker 3: That's just outrageous. It's obviously a byproduct of what's going on internationally, but that's back to being seriously bad. It's going to start, I think, a serious conversation about the excise again in Australia. So we'll follow that. If you've seen it cheaper than $ 2. 30, folks, please let us know. If you see it outrageously expensive, we'd love to hear that as well. Let us know. 0 to 4808 1395. Here's a bit of a palate cleanser, though. Some good news for our boys, the 64.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember the 21st night of September?
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Speaker 10: Lovers changing their minds, pretenders, while they're chasing the clown.
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Speaker 11: Made it through the grand final of The Voice.
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Speaker 12: We're trying to track them down.
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Speaker 13: We've got some feelers out this morning.
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Speaker 7: It's our team, isn't it?
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: This is going to be a South Australian victory on the national stage.
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Speaker 4: We're backing our boys. Grand final. That's huge. And they were booted by Mel and saved by Ronan. So it's a redemption story as well. We know how much we all love a redemption story.
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Speaker 3: Everyone loves a comeback story. And we love the 64. I think 5AA discovered the 64. They've been hosting Best of S.A.s. They've been singing Best of S.A.s since I think they were eight years old. That's what it feels like. They still seem so young. They're wonderfully talented. Some sad news in the music world, though, as well over the weekend. And speaking of The Voice.
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Speaker 14: John's health has deteriorated in recent months. He now requires continuous oxygen support and uses a wheelchair for mobility. It has also become necessary for John to receive 24-hour nursing care at home.
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Speaker 3: That's a sad and somewhat surprising development. Just thoughts with his family. One of one of our most beloved entertainers in this country. And you talk about a redemption arc, and doubtless we'll talk more about his career over the course of coming weeks than they did last night. But you just think of that guy reinventing himself in a way that no one thought possible and no one believed. He was the subject of a really lovely tribute show last night.
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Speaker 10: You're the voice trying to understand it.
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Speaker 1: Make a noise and make it clear.
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Speaker 3: So we're wishing him and his family and those around him all the best at the moment. It's obviously a very, very difficult time.
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Speaker 4: That is the best song, the voice, and it doesn't matter who you hear sing it. I mean, the Jonas Brothers, when they sang it when the NFL was here the other week, you can't help but bop along.
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Speaker 3: Has any other song made good positive use of bagpipes?
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
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Speaker 3: How many major hits feature bagpipes? Our listeners will know. Andrew and Prospect, you've spotted some cheap petrol on your travels.
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Speaker 15: Oh, yes, good morning. We're going down Hampstead Road.
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Speaker 6: $ 2.
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Speaker 16: 22.
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Speaker 3: Just say that again, Andrew, because you dropped out right at the start, and $ 2. 22 has me excited.
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Speaker 15: $ 2.
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Speaker 13: 22 on Hampstead Road.
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Speaker 3: Hampstead Road, $ 2. 22. Andrew, that is significant. That's basically 10 cents a litre cheaper than you're going to find it in most other locations this morning. 11.3 degrees outside at the moment. It feels like 9. It's going to get to 17. This is as cool as it's going to be for Possibly sometime. So tomorrow, 21 and sunny. And then this week reads like it's got that feeling that you clicked on the wrong spot on the Weather Bureau website. 25 Wednesday, 29 Thursday, 28 Friday, 28 Saturday and 30 on Sunday. So maybe next week we'll even go warmer. Who knows? But it is a magnificent sort of a weather week. Great week for a build up to the AFL Grand Final as well. Tom Renner in the studio. Agostina Mitsubishi's demo clearance on now. Savon Pajero, Sport, ASX, Triton and Outlander, Nailsworth and Mawson Lakes. Rennie, my wife came downstairs because she thought I was under attack. On Saturday night, she had a shower and I was watching the fourth quarter of the Brisbane Hawthorne game. That's the best game of football I've ever seen in my life. Where does it rank for you?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think right up there.
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Speaker 3: Top couple. It was phenomenal.
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Speaker 16: Just.
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Speaker 17: The swings, the changes in momentum, the drama, and then the finish.
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Speaker 3: The quality of it as well.
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Speaker 17: It was wild, wasn't it? And it did make you think from a Crows and Port perspective, there's a bit of a gap here. There's some work to go. But that aside, the game itself was– it was breathtaking. I was the same. Sarah, my wife, watched it with me that last quarter, and she was on the edge of her seat. I think everyone was that saw it. It was just– It was incredible. And at the time, I remember saying, no, you can't decide a game like that. And she said, that's the right call.
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Speaker 7: It was.
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Speaker 17: Sarah said it in the right way.
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Speaker 3: And it's proved that way, I think. I have total sympathy for Jarman Impey, though. Because that guy, he's played 200 and something games of footy. He knows that never gets called in those circumstances in that position on the ground. That's wrong, but that's the way that's been officiated his whole career. Absolutely. But it's the right call.
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Speaker 17: And absolutely, umpires will normally blow the whistle half a second after it's held to them to take out the longer it goes. You know as a fan and a commentator, the longer they wait, then you know the call's coming for holding the ball. The game, though, was unbelievable. And the right call, you're right, Will. And well done to the umpire. Whether he gets picked, we'll find out today.
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Speaker 4: He ran off pretty quickly at the end of the game.
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Speaker 17: Well, the game was the win. Brisbane, the win, clearly. The big losers, I think, are the fans. Now, I can understand the passion and even players remonstrating. I get it. It's a grand final on the line, but the fans that are throwing full cans and bottles on the ground.
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Speaker 3: That's just loser behaviour.
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Speaker 7: That's just disgraceful.
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Speaker 17: You just cannot do that. I've never seen that before on an AFL ground or I can't remember it in recent memory.
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Speaker 7: That was terrible.
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Speaker 17: So, yeah, that was shocking.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to sit behind a cage at the football, you're going the right way about it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: If you want the players' races to become all locked off, if you've got no access to anyone and see anything, that's how you behave. And I know the, you know, You're not thinking about the future of the game when your side's just lost a prelim final like that. I get it. Everyone's emotional, but just grow up.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think sometimes when you're in that moment, particularly in a big stadium like that, people seem to lose perspective.
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Speaker 3: Totally.
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Speaker 4: This is not something that most of those people would do if they were sitting at home or on a hill watching local footy. It's not the way they'd behave. But when you're in that sort of mentality, you lose all perspective of what is appropriate.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's a really good point.
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Speaker 17: The other potential loser, well, it's the story of the week, is Lockie Neal. So what happens now? What did the tribunal do? Nine players have been suspended for a gut punch rally. Phil Thorpe got done earlier in the season. Two have decided to crack down on it. Greg Swan, who was the CEO for a long time at Brisbane, really good mates with Lockie Neal. Nine players have been suspended. Two have tried to appeal it.
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Speaker 3: None have got off. What happens? I'll be fascinated.
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Speaker 4: You have to try and appeal it, right?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: But?
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Speaker 4: It's not going to happen.
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Speaker 17: So will it be the Scott Pendlebury defence?
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Speaker 7: He's a good bloke.
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Speaker 17: He hasn't been suspended in his 320 games. Will it be that you can't suspend a guy for a grand final? But to your point, Will, with the umpiring decision, technically, if that's the rule, he's got to be rubbed out.
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Speaker 3: Is there better vision than that one shot that looks like it was shot by a Russian space satellite? I haven't seen anything any clear. I mean, he clearly did it. But the vision's shocking.
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Speaker 17: It's grainy. It's from a long 150, 200 metres away. Why is it so far away? It's crazy, isn't it? But, yeah, a really big decision for the tribunal. So they're clearly going to appeal. Whether he gets off, though, we'll find out in the next day or two.
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Speaker 7: He can't.
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Speaker 17: I don't think so. If you're going to make the rule, rules are rules.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You can't just have one player exempt. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Can I ask you, Randy, does any part of you as a football fan, and as great as that game on Saturday night was, does it feel a bit like the kid who opened his Christmas presents the night before Christmas?
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Speaker 17: You can't beat that, can you?
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Speaker 3: It just feels like we're heading for a letdown this Saturday. Wouldn't it be great if we're wrong, but it just feels like.
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Speaker 17: And are most neutrals going for Fremantle?
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 18: I think so.
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Speaker 4: What about Wolfie time? They're allowed to try for Wolfie time? Is that right?
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Speaker 3: Has that been decided yet? I know there are.
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Speaker 4: I think they were allowed to request it, but the decision hasn't been made.
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Speaker 17: I don't think for a grand final. I think it's a neutral venue, so I'm not sure if you'd be allowed to have it.
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Speaker 7: But why not?
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Speaker 17: Again, you can ask the question. Other winners, Norwood, what a win yesterday. Great call as well by our team, Paddy and Tuggers. They did a great job. And Sammy Datto was there, Matty Panos. The Redlegs, their 32nd premiership. That was amazing. Coming from behind, five goals to zip in the final quarter. Adelaide 36ers, great start to the season. Two points on Saturday night against Melbourne United.
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Speaker 3: Missing three key players as well against a stacked Melbourne United side. That was a quality win.
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Speaker 17: Huge win. So 97 to 95. Aussie Cricketers, they won their Series 3-0. They just won overnight their third and final game. Losers, Port W unfortunately. Crows W side won their first against Brisbane since 2022. So finals still alive, but a lot of work to be done.
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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Rennie.
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Speaker 13: Good on you.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
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Speaker 7: Knockdown.
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Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: 90 minutes to 7. Magnificent morning outside. A heading for what is a rare air in terms of this time of year and the sort of week we're going to get weather-wise. Happened three times since we've kept weather records according to our statsman Ben Jordan. Have we had a five-day period from Wednesday onwards this week at this time of year that's just been as hot as the one that's forecast this week. It's going to be absolutely spectacular. The thing that also is forecast to rise even more and already is high are petrol prices. So we're keeping an eye out this morning for anywhere it might be good or we're warning people on any area where it looks impossibly large. Deborah, good morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: What have you seen out there, Deborah?
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Speaker 19: Exconvenience on Main North Road at Gepps Cross, $ 2.
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Speaker 6: 19.
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Speaker 7: Oh.
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Speaker 3: $ 2.
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Speaker 5: 19.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 8: That's almost like.
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Speaker 3: The sign's broken. That's excellent, Debra. I'd get in and fill up there. Thank you. Around most of the rest of the city, $ 2. 32- ish is what you're sort of looking at. Rob sent an interesting text through here. which I think is partly right. He says, I seem to remember earlier in the year when prices were high, we received a multitude of assurances from the government around increased reserves and stockpiles, international supply assurance, et cetera. I thought these measures were supposed to inoculate us some from surge pricing. I think it does in terms of you're not getting headlines that are saying we have seven days worth of fuel left and the price spikes that relate to a run-on fuel, it doesn't inoculate us from the international market. And the best example of this is always the US. Think of the Beverly Hillbillies, the idea that in the United States, someone somewhere for their entire history has dug a hole and oil has sprouted out of it, yet their gas prices... through this conflict have gone up as well, despite the fact they're mining, they're digging a lot of it up there because they too, it's all subject to an international market. So no one's entirely inoculated. Yes, Rob is right. We are meant to be inoculated from the most dramatic spikes. And this one feels pretty dramatic. So I get it, Rob. Thank you. 8223 0000, text us on 048 08 13 95. I just want to do two more texts, Stacey, because this is one I know we've got a good issue. Kendall says, Lockie Neal must get a week Regardless of the grand final, he shouldn't have done it. Go Fremantle. Jack says, let him off. It's a grand final.
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Speaker 14: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 4: All right. Fair enough. He's got a big game to play.
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Speaker 3: Let him play. That's right. Feels like a good potential jury topic. I wonder how this next subject would go if we put it to a jury. Should Australia be pursuing a seat on the UN Security Council? It's something that's happening. The Prime Minister's flagged it. I think the framing of this is interesting given Australia's I reckon most people, when they, in their mind picture, they think about the UN Security Council, you're probably thinking Cold War era style, preventing conflict between two major states. You're thinking about conventional warfare and you're thinking about security in that way. Well, the Prime Minister is saying we should think about the role the Security Council is going to play in terms of framing the AI debate. Do we really want this to be something that's ultimately decided by the US and China and middle powers like Australia to have nothing to say about it and no avenue with which to say something. So his pitch is if we're on the Security Council, we can do that kind of thing. Michael Shoebridge is the Director of Strategic Analysis Australia. Michael, good morning.
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Speaker 17: Morning, Will.
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Speaker 13: Morning, Stacey.
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Speaker 3: What's the history of the success of a bid to be on the Security Council on an issue like the... Maybe there's no precedent for a bid for a single issue like this, but is there in your mind?
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Speaker 13: No, no. The normal way a country gets on the UN Security Council with one of these temporary seats is being a sort of good international citizen, but also some sort of almost naked bribery about the things we'll do if we get a country's vote. So last time back in 2014, we promised we were going to do great things in Africa, and we did a small number of them.
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Speaker 16: Right.
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Speaker 7: Okay.
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Speaker 8: So.
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Speaker 4: Is there a cost involved to taxpayers to get on this?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 13: So the last time, again, back in 2014, the Foreign Affairs Department says we spent about $ 23, $ 25 million directly. But there would have also been costs to do some of those things with countries where we promised them stuff using the foreign aid budget.
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Speaker 4: And what does Australia get in return?
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Speaker 13: Well, at the moment, you'd have to say not very much. I mean, there's a little bit of, I suppose, glory for the government to say, hey, we're on this body. But at the moment, the UN and the UN Security Council are strikingly absent when it comes to any of the world's big problems, whether that's the war in Ukraine, the war in the Gulf, energy prices, AI, or climate change.
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Speaker 4: And is there like, How does it work? Is there one person who is appointed? What I'm trying to say is, is this a jobs for the boys situation where we'll find out, I don't know, Chris Bowen's retiring from parliament and he's been appointed as our, you know, delegate in this? Is there one person that gets a job out of this or is it more of a combined country role?
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Speaker 13: I think it's more, it's a combined country thing. So our UN mission in New York would get it. I mean, you could always appoint someone special for it, but it's a UN mission. mission of Australia's in New York. So we'd be represented through that. I think it's more there'd be an opportunity to make statements as a UN Security Council member, but really the UN is at the lowest point in its history and it's hard to see it playing a role. And when the Prime Minister talks about rules on AI, the UN Security Council is not going to make those rules.
00:25:06
Speaker 4: How's that AI Royal Commission going here?
00:25:09
Speaker 3: In South Australia.
00:25:10
Speaker 4: If the UN's going to start deciding rules on AI and the country's going to start deciding rules on AI, why do we need a Royal Commission in South Australia?
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Speaker 3: That might pinch me, a Royal Commission. Michael, thank you. Michael Shoebridge, the Director of Strategic Analysis Australia. So this is an interesting thought experiment. Here are the current members of the UN Security Council.
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Speaker 16: Okay.
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Speaker 3: There's five permanent members, China, France, Russia, the UK, US, okay? Five permanent. Very influential countries in global affairs. Here are the countries that we would be bidding to replace one of these because they've got fixed two-year terms. Bahrain, Colombia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Denmark, Greece, Latvia, Liberia, Pakistan, Panama, Somalia. How many of those countries that I just named do you feel have wielded a greater influence uh, uh, uh, influence over international affairs over the last two years.
00:26:08
Speaker 4: It's just particularly that there's a cost to taxpayers. There's a physical cost. What was it? $ 23 million. However, many years ago, what's, what's inflation added onto that going to cost us now as taxpayers, can we afford this in our budget? And what is the, what is the benefit we get out of it? It doesn't seem that the cost benefit analysis, just the, the quick one I've done in my brain.
00:26:28
Speaker 3: I don't think it's there. Uh, I understand sort of as an aspirational thing, wanting Australia to have a seat on the Security Council, but I think the reality of the situation, as uncomfortable as it might be, the US and the UK, how often are we going to have a different perspective from those two permanent members?
00:26:46
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:26:48
Speaker 3: That's our sphere of influence is pretty well represented.
00:26:51
Speaker 4: And we already have AUKUS with them. Do we need... Yeah. What's the benefit of being on the UN? I get that there's a bigger global team, but.
00:26:59
Speaker 3: It has a bit of a whiff of vanity project about it, doesn't it? Totally. All right, let's head to the Weather Bureau because there's nothing to be cynical about here. Ursula Connor joins us. Ursula, did you crunch the numbers this week and think, that can't be right?
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Speaker 20: It's a pretty funny week, isn't it? Yeah, after what was a pretty warm day yesterday, we're a little bit cooler today with a maximum of 17 on the forecast. And just a little bit of cloud around maybe could catch a light shower just over the next couple of hours through the metro area. But then, yeah, conditions really finding up as we move through the week this week. A ridge of high pressure is going to be our dominant feature. And once we see that move out to our east and some northerly winds setting up a bit later in the week, that's really going to drag down some pretty warm air over the states.
00:27:55
Speaker 16: So.
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Speaker 20: Fairly sunny conditions and those temperatures warming up to sort of the high 20s, maybe even low 30s by the time we get to the.
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Speaker 6: Weekend, Will.
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Speaker 3: Low 30s. Unbelievable. Good stuff, Ursula. Thank you. All right, let's hit a safe pole. Senior Constable Kimberley Broads on the line. Very sad story at Annandale last night, Kimberley. A fatal crash.
00:28:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. About 7.30 last night, police and emergency services responded to the head-on crash involving a Holden utility and a Holden sedan on the Sturt Highway at Annadale. Sadly, the driver of the Holden sedan, a 17-year-old boy from Renmark, he died at the scene. His passenger is a 23-year-old man from Renmark and he was treated at the scene for minor injuries. And the other driver of the Holden utility, a 17-year-old boy from Renmark, He was airlifted to hospital with life-threatening injuries. So we had the Sturt Highway closed for several hours while we had major crash investigators attend at the scene to examine the circumstances surrounding that crash. But that teenage boy's life is the 80th life lost on SA roads this year. Anyone who witnessed the incident or they have any dash cam or any other information that can assist that investigation, please call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Speaker 4: And Kimberley, three people have been arrested for a break-in at Woodville South.
00:29:17
Speaker 6: Yeah, this was early this morning, about 1.30am. We were called to a home on Angus Street after three people allegedly smashed a rear door to gain entry to the property. The occupants were home asleep at the time, but thankfully they weren't injured, but they did immediately call police. So we've responded and as we're turning into the street, saw three men run off. Two of those suspects fled over fences but they were located in adjacent streets while Petey Hank found a third person hiding in a front yard just a few houses away but officers also discovered a stolen white high-ice van which was parked in the street. and that was allegedly used by one of the suspects. So two men aged 43 and 57 of no fixed address, along with a 52-year-old man from Ridleyton, they've been arrested and charged with the break-in, and the 43-year-old man further charged with the legal use of a motor vehicle. But they've been refused bail and will be appearing in court today.
00:30:13
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Kimberley. Senior Constable Kimberley Broad there from SAPOL. We're going to check traffic and come back with more in a moment. Long live recreation and the all-new RAV4 plug-in hybrid at Jarvis Toyota Brighton Road Summon and Park.
00:30:26
Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
00:30:34
Speaker 7: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
00:30:36
Speaker 2: This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:30:41
Speaker 3: Four minutes to seven. ACDC, Long Way to the Top is a song that features bagpipes. Thank you, David Alberton. And Liz and Unley, Mull of Kintyre. also features bagpipes. We were talking about You're the Voice a little bit earlier, wondering what other popular songs feature bagpipes. There's at least three out there. I wonder if there's any more. Let us know, 04808 1395. Is anyone waking up this morning nursing sore legs? You've been in the ice bucket overnight? You've cramped up or you're still recovering from the City of Bay? I wonder how our next... guest holds up, the winner of the half marathon, so not the 12k, this is the 21k version, Fraser Darcy, who we've spoken to in the past, having won the Adelaide full marathon last time out. Fraser, does this make you Adelaide's preeminent distance running athlete now?
00:31:27
Speaker 8: Oh, no, no, far from it. There's a lot more, I guess, high quality females especially that probably take that title before me, but I'm just very happy to win another race this year and get some Just a good morning out on the roads.
00:31:43
Speaker 4: How do you prep? Is this something that you sort of work out in the weeks leading up or are you just pretty chill about it now?
00:31:51
Speaker 8: For this one, this is serving as preparation for Melbourne Marathon in three weeks and sort of circled it on the calendar maybe a month or two ago, depending on how it pulled up after some other races. City to Bay, you sort of do want to be involved but wasn't sure if I was going to do the 12K or the half marathon and Preparation during the week is two runs a day, seven days a week, 180 kilometres on average. I'm not tapering for a race or recovering from one.
00:32:21
Speaker 3: What pace did you run it in, Fraser? Did you hit what you were... I mean, irrespective of the fact you won, did you hit the pace you were looking for?
00:32:28
Speaker 8: No, not really, actually. It was not a great weather day yesterday, especially for the half. Felt like we had a headwind all the way into the city. So I ran 3.14, 3.15 per kph. and that's like 16, 1630 for a park run. Um, I was probably aiming for a minute quicker, but, um, yeah, just when it's windy and warm, you're just like, okay, I'm going to get through this, uh, without trying to fast though.
00:32:52
Speaker 3: Frozen. Not many normal people can approach anything like that.
00:32:55
Speaker 21: Yeah.
00:32:56
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:32:56
Speaker 14: Nah.
00:32:57
Speaker 8: And I mean, like I do, I respect that but at the same time I'd be happy to go a minute or two quicker if it was perfect conditions.
00:33:06
Speaker 3: What's your favourite distance to run? Do you prefer the half or the full or is there somewhere else?
00:33:11
Speaker 8: Probably the full because you're still running quite fast but after about 30km it becomes more of a challenge of holding on at that pace and sort of surviving the damage that you've accumulated and I think it draws a lot more emotional energy out of people to really dig deep in that moment, a bit like playing four quarters of the final or five-set tennis match.
00:33:34
Speaker 3: How does the start work when you're a competitive runner, Fraser? I know you guys start at a different time to everyone else, but it still looks kind of bunched. How do you negotiate that first sort of period of a distance run where you've got genuine designs on trying to win the whole thing?
00:33:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, some races where, like, I've competed at the World Champs in trail running, and you've got 100 men all bunched up, all wanting to sort of come top 10, top 20. That really can be quite dangerous with lots of elbows and pushing, and everyone just takes off a lot faster. That's generally how it is.
00:34:07
Speaker 18: You sort of.
00:34:08
Speaker 8: Everyone wants the same sort of position, but they are respectful. Yesterday's race is great because the field's not a World Championship. It's far from it, so it's a little bit more relaxed and you can get out As long as you get a good start off the line. And, I mean, race directors have to be smart and find a wide road so that everyone can sort of spread out.
00:34:29
Speaker 4: It is.
00:34:30
Speaker 8: And that's the great thing about the City to Bay for the 12K. It starts on King William, so it's super wide and everyone has time to sort of find their own little patch.
00:34:38
Speaker 3: When you finish the City to Bay, do you eat at the Bay for recovery?
00:34:43
Speaker 8: Yeah, I went into one of the little supermarkets there and got chocolate milk and Baker's Delight for a couple of scones. And then the great thing about the half is I get to then watch all my mates run the 12K.
00:34:54
Speaker 17: Yes.
00:34:55
Speaker 8: And see them finish and, yeah, then, you know, do something else afterwards with them, which is good.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Celebrate with a choccy milk and scones. Well, congratulations to you, Fraser. Great to chat with you again, mate.
00:35:05
Speaker 18: No worries.
00:35:05
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on.
00:35:06
Speaker 3: Fraser Darcy, the City of Bay half-barathon winner. I actually went to– I got close to the City of Bay yesterday. I was at Orange Spot Bakery, and I saw a lot of really fit people making much healthier choices.
00:35:18
Speaker 4: Did you have a scone as well in honour of Fraser?
00:35:21
Speaker 3: I didn't have a scone. I tell you what, Orange Spot Bakery is so unbelievably good. I had a pie and it was just magnificent. Anyway, there were a lot of people around and they weren't at Orange Spot, but somewhere it was magnificent. Seven o'clock, 5AA News is coming up. We'll be back in a moment.
00:35:40
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes.
00:35:42
Speaker 7: Sell one and move on.
00:35:44
Speaker 1: Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do.
00:35:47
Speaker 7: It all for you.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:35:53
Speaker 3: Eight after seven, good morning to you. Joining us for the first time on this Monday, the 21st of September, ahead of a record-setting heat week ahead, or at least the last five days of it, as Ben Jordan's told us in that first hour. Only three times in the history of record keeping in this part of the world have we had a grand final week lead up from Wednesday through to Sunday like we're going to get this week. The numbers bear repeating 25, 29, 28, 28 and 30. They are magnificent. We're going to talk about the population of Australia very shortly and the intergenerational report set to come out today and what it will tell us about the way our country's heading. Obviously, The immigration component's been a big talking point, but population broadly, of course, is the thing that feeds into infrastructure requirements and hospitals and health and water and all that kind of stuff. So it's a fascinating chat. We're going to get into that in a moment. I want to do some text, though, because our listeners have done a good job, as I could possibly ever hope to do, in terms of just shotgunning a few different thought starters. Let's start with this one. BP Australia profits this year, says the anonymous texter, $ 3. 2 billion up in the second quarter to $ 5. 7 billion. And I'm on a pension, says the texter. The reason? Because petrol prices this morning are in the two. Let me have a look. I'll refresh it.
00:37:17
Speaker 7: $ 2.
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Speaker 3: 34 on West Terrace. That's always sort of been our North Star for this, for the purpose of comparison. Otherwise, $ 2. 32 was what you're going to be paying for much of Adelaide. The scariest part is it doesn't, there's not environmental factors that make you say, well, it's going to get better soon. That said, and this will feed into some of the cynics, and I'm with them, the Brent crude price, which is the best international benchmark for what Australia's retail petrol price would be, is at $ 103 a barrel. It got up significantly higher than that. It's been significantly higher than that. So there's a bit of, Our market's reacting to news headlines, and maybe people are a little bit too at the moment. So that's one we are definitely watching this morning. If you see it cheap out there, let us know. 8223 0000 is the number. Lots of texts about that. Sue wants what she calls trucks, what other people call utes to be banned, the big ones. Huge and dangerous, says Sue. You know what?
00:38:20
Speaker 4: Some of them are huge. There was one driving in front of me the other day and it took up a lane and a half at a set of traffic lights. And I just thought, well, how are these things allowed if they can't even fit in a lane on the road? It doesn't fit in one lane. How's that possible?
00:38:35
Speaker 3: I wonder if others have seen it and are similarly irritated. Let us know. Lots of nominations for songs with bagpipes Tuesdays because we have been– Talking about John Farnham, of course, we've got that really disturbing health update yesterday with regard to the sort of 24-hour day care he now requires. Lovely tribute last night at the concert. And we've got us talking about You're the Voice featuring bagpipes, and there's a few more nominations coming through.
00:39:01
Speaker 17: Yep.
00:39:01
Speaker 4: This person says, ACDC, Long Way to the Top has bagpipes in it.
00:39:05
Speaker 3: South says, Rhythm of My Heart by Rod Stewart. I didn't know that one. Scotland the Brave, which Nathan, yeah, if it didn't, Something would be wrong.
00:39:14
Speaker 4: There'd be an issue there. And I also like this text from Scott in Modbury. You were telling the story, Will, how you were at the Orange Spot Bakery while the City to Bay was on. And you said there were people fitter than you.
00:39:25
Speaker 3: Certainly.
00:39:25
Speaker 4: Sort of running past. And Scott says, fitter than you?
00:39:28
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:39:29
Speaker 4: Happier than you with your pie? Not likely.
00:39:33
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Scott. No chance whatsoever. That was a magnificent way to spend a Sunday morning. All right, let's talk about the future of the country. We're going to learn a bit more about it today in terms of just raw numbers and projections. The intergenerational report will be published a little bit later in full. Some of it's been leaked. to the newspapers and indeed the treasurer's speech has been in part too so there are some things we can glean uh already um for example uh in uh in into the future by 2062-63 the average lifespan will be 89 for women and 86 for men women will have 1.3 children on average that'll be down from 1.5 forecast for 2030. The replacement rate is 2.1. So our population will not reach the height previously forecast. So originally the expectation was by the mid-2060s we'd get 40 million Australians. Now they've revised it down ever so slightly to 39 million. Mark McCrindle is a demographer we love talking to about these sort of big picture things and he joins us on 5AA Breakfast. Now, Mark, good morning to you. Good morning. How accurate have these sorts of reports been in the past? And so how much store do we put in the projections that are made today?
00:40:51
Speaker 18: Well, with demographics... You can project forward based on what's happening. The changes take place over a fair while, and so you can get a sense as to where things have been and therefore where they will go. So reasonably accurate. Whether we end up at $ 39 million in the mid-2060s or if it gets up to $ 40 or slightly off that obviously remains to be seen. Some of the key factors, that we're on an ageing curve, that we're living longer, that families are smaller, that we're having fewer children, and that we're relying more on migration. All of those have been baked in. It's what we've seen over the last three or four decades, and we will see over the four decades ahead.
00:41:35
Speaker 4: When you look at the birth rate, Mark, I don't think any of this is surprising, and particularly there's a global trend. A lot of the rest of the world is also struggling with a low birth rate, but all of the factors that contribute to that aren't easily addressed, you know, lack of housing, cost of living, high student debt, better education, more access to contraception, all of that contributes and none of it's easily addressed.
00:42:04
Speaker 18: No, but it definitely needs to be looked at because that's the foundation of our communities, of our future, literally of the next generation is starting that and therefore ensuring that couples have the confidence, have the money, have the homes and the ability to start a family. So that's one of the key risks, the key challenges that this data puts forward. I mean, when the birth rate had dropped down to 1.7%, That rung alarm bells and brought in the baby bonus, but saw it turn around and get close to replacement rates back up to two in about 2006. But since then, it's dropped to 1.5, now a little bit below and on its way to 1.3. really, really low, amongst the lowest in the world. And certainly we'll have some challenges, particularly because we're living longer at the same time, which is a great news story. But it means the proportion of people in the workforce is less paying taxes and funding the proportion of people that are not working because they're older or they're younger. So that old age dependency ratio is heading in the wrong direction as well.
00:43:09
Speaker 3: No one's solved this, have they, Mark, with regard to birth rates? I was reading something the other day that It almost, apart from some places in Africa, doesn't matter on the profile of the country, birth rates are declining everywhere on planet Earth at the moment. Is that right?
00:43:22
Speaker 7: That's right.
00:43:23
Speaker 18: Some Western nations have higher birth rates than others through some policy work, but none of it's permanent. Hungary and Poland brought in various versions of a baby bonus. In fact, one child, no tax after you've had your third child for life.
00:43:41
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:43:41
Speaker 18: And it did have a short, not a bad little incentive there. It did have a spike, but it wasn't sustained. But it did settle a little bit above where it was. So some of these have worked, not to the extent people have wanted, but it is something to get right because without, I think, some sort of support and incentive for parents at this most expensive time in life, When young couples can't afford homes anyway, we're just going to see struggles on the birth front. And of course, you know, we've got not only an aging population if we don't have the next generation coming through, but we've got shortfalls in the workforce. We've got shortfalls in meeting the critical needs that our nation needs in our society. Our communities just end up having, you know, older generations and middle-aged generations, but not younger ones. So we do need, you know, the births to keep ticking ahead.
00:44:30
Speaker 3: Is there a nerd demographer statistic, Mark, that you'll be flicking to when you pick up a report like this that might necessarily get on the front page, but people who work in the sector are acutely interested in?
00:44:43
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it is probably that old age dependency ratio, how many people paying tax relative to each person in retirement. And we used to have about, back in the day, about 50 years ago, we had about seven people working, paying tax, and we do rely on income tax in Australia for that retiree. We got down to five. Now we're at about 3.5 workers per retiree, and it's heading further south. So it just shows the burden on particularly younger people funding what is a good news story, this longevity boom, and the fact that life expectancy continues to increase and we haven't achieved all those gains. I mean, that's an amazing fact and encouraging for us all that we're going to live longer, be active later, but we do need to get the economics right across the population.
00:45:29
Speaker 7: Wow.
00:45:30
Speaker 14: Yeah.
00:45:31
Speaker 4: Have you seen Singapore at the moment giving $ 70, 000 as a baby bonus?
00:45:37
Speaker 7: Really?
00:45:38
Speaker 4: Over a number of years. I think it's $ 10, 000 up front and then $ 2, 000 every year. You keep the child alive up until 16 and some money towards education as they get older.
00:45:48
Speaker 3: I would have thought, given Singapore's geography, they wouldn't want too many more people, but obviously even they need more people.
00:45:55
Speaker 4: I think it fell below 1% their birth rate.
00:45:56
Speaker 3: Is that right?
00:45:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, or was predicted to, so they're really trying to But that's the problem. Everyone always says when this report comes out, well, we might need to go back to the baby bonus, but we also have an inflation issue. So how would you address it?
00:46:07
Speaker 3: Well, that feeds into the fuel excise debate we're about to have again. Is it worth having slightly cheaper petrol if it means slightly more expensive everything else? Mark McCrindle, great to have you on, demographer. That was interesting. That aged, the pensioner dependency ratio is a fascinating stat. So just to highlight that for a moment. It has more than halved the number of people that work to sustain pensions and healthcare and pay tax and all that for every person retired. There used to be seven. Now there's three. That's a huge burden being borne by working people at the moment.
00:46:45
Speaker 4: So one person's working to pay for the pensions of three. Is that right?
00:46:50
Speaker 3: No, three people are working to pay for the pension. There used to be seven people that paid. Right. So seven workers for every dependent. Think of it that way. Forget the pension. However, they're dependent on the taxpayer. There were seven taxpayers supporting. Now there's three.
00:47:06
Speaker 4: Now there's three.
00:47:07
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:47:07
Speaker 3: So there's fewer than half, which is just quite remarkable.
00:47:11
Speaker 4: It'll keep getting worse.
00:47:12
Speaker 3: Should we give away some grand final tickets?
00:47:14
Speaker 7: Oh, well, yeah.
00:47:15
Speaker 3: Are you ready? Let's try.
00:47:16
Speaker 15: All right.
00:47:17
Speaker 3: All right. We'll see. We'll see. Just don't guess sting is all I'm going to say. That's a bonus clue. It's not sting.
00:47:23
Speaker 4: It's not sting.
00:47:27
Speaker 3: The AFL Grand Final, it's going to be spectacular this weekend. Now we know Brisbane Frio, I wonder who people will be going for. We might ask them when they get to guess. We need a performer. We've had five clues thus far. We've had four discrete guesses. One, Sting's been guessed twice. Flights, accommodation, tickets, you name it. Weekend of a lifetime. Get calling now. 8223 0055 is the number. Should we do the clue now, Patrick, or should we hold it? He's given the double thumbs up. It's the first time he's looked happy in the last 24 hours. Sturt lose, Hawthorne lose, Celtic lose. It's just a tough Monday morning for Patrick Goldsmith. AFL-authorised GF promotion, GFAFL26 slash 143. Today's clue is the colour blue. The clue is the colour blue.
00:48:13
Speaker 5: Okay.
00:48:15
Speaker 3: Get calling. 8223 0055 is the number. And we're going to take a guess on the other side of this break. Let's check traffic. Long live recreation and the all-new RAV4 plug-in hybrid at Jarvis Toyota Brighton Roads, Summon and Park.
00:48:29
Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
00:48:38
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:48:43
Speaker 3: AFL grand final ticket competition time. We've had five clues thus far. In fact, no, we've had six clues. We've just revealed the sixth clue, the colour blue, before the break, which means we're one step closer to giving away the grand final tickets.
00:49:07
Speaker 22: We need a grand final performer.
00:49:11
Speaker 3: We've had four different guesses. And today we've got Louise and Cheltenham on the line. Louise, good morning to you.
00:49:18
Speaker 16: Good morning.
00:49:19
Speaker 3: Hello, Louise. You're not a Brisbane or Freo fan by a chance, are you, Louise?
00:49:24
Speaker 16: No, I'm a Port fan.
00:49:25
Speaker 3: Who will you go for if you get along this week?
00:49:27
Speaker 16: I think Freo.
00:49:30
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:49:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems to be the vibe.
00:49:33
Speaker 16: Another Wharfie.
00:49:33
Speaker 3: I was going to say, do Port fans feel a sort of kinship with Freo? Sort of dock people?
00:49:39
Speaker 14: Yeah.
00:49:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. Now, Louise, have you heard all the clues?
00:49:44
Speaker 16: Well, I've heard some and I've missed some.
00:49:46
Speaker 3: Okay. All right. That's all right. At this point in time, there's been a few. There's been six. So just walk us through the clues you've heard and how they've informed your guests, Louise.
00:49:57
Speaker 16: I think the Martin Cox USA was the one that got me thinking that year, which was 2018, I think, and that was Black Eyed Peas.
00:50:10
Speaker 3: Oh, black-eyed peas.
00:50:11
Speaker 4: Your guess is black-eyed peas.
00:50:12
Speaker 21: Okay.
00:50:13
Speaker 3: Because we had the USA chant last week.
00:50:18
Speaker 10: Okay.
00:50:18
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking through my head. They tick a few of the boxes, that's for sure.
00:50:23
Speaker 4: International. Yeah.
00:50:27
Speaker 3: It is not black-eyed peas, Louise. I'm sorry. Sorry, Louise. I like your thinking, though. Just off this, I'd have to go through our clues one by one to work out.
00:50:38
Speaker 4: I almost did. I started doing it out loud and then stopped myself.
00:50:41
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, it means we're going to day seven tomorrow, a seventh clue and another chance to guess. Louise did well. We haven't had the black-eyed peas yet.
00:50:50
Speaker 4: No, we haven't. That was a good guess.
00:50:51
Speaker 3: I don't mind that at all.
00:50:52
Speaker 4: They do tick quite a few of the boxes.
00:50:54
Speaker 3: Do they? Yeah. Okay. Louise, try again tomorrow. Everyone else, try again tomorrow. Grand final tickets, flights, accommodation. Plenty of time to have the best weekend of your life tomorrow morning with another chance to win.
00:51:12
Speaker 21: Ned McHenry on 5AA breakfast.
00:51:16
Speaker 4: What is happening right now?
00:51:18
Speaker 3: Well, rowing's off.
00:51:19
Speaker 22: A few people asked where Ned and Sam were this morning, and Ned needed a sleep in because he's covering rowing this week in the AFL Grand Final build-up. Ned, before we talk footy and sport with you, mate, what in the heck is that song?
00:51:34
Speaker 12: Good morning. Good morning, Will and Stace. Well, Paddy called me and he said, do you have a favorite song? And I said, well, my favorite song is Goodnight Saigon by Billy Joel, but it's a little, it might not be fit for purpose for this one, guys. And he said, do you have another? And I said, well, Tom Curtin, just give it a crack, kind of sums up what I'm all about. So here we go.
00:51:53
Speaker 3: Fair enough. And here we are. So they've brought out the big guns for grand final week, Ned. I'm excited about it. This will be good having you on the show. Some big talking points out of the weekend. Let's just start with one. Was that the best game of footy you've ever seen on Saturday night, the prelim final?
00:52:07
Speaker 12: Well, there was two great games of footy this weekend, but it wasn't there. But you're right. I mean, that was probably the best final I've seen, I think, in some... theatre with the umpiring decision. Have you guys spoken about it? What have our listeners said? I think it was the right call. I really do. I think it's easy to get emotive and blame the umpires, but on that one, there was no intent to get rid of the footy. That's holding the ball. Extraordinary circumstances around it and a big consequence, but holding the ball every.
00:52:33
Speaker 7: Day of the week.
00:52:34
Speaker 3: Technically, most people agree, technically right. I've got sympathy for German Imping, Ned, and maybe I'm just a softie, but I kind of think you've played 200-odd games of footy How many times has that been called on that part of the ground under those circumstances? Because they usually swallow the whistle, don't they, the umpires late?
00:52:51
Speaker 12: You're right. You're right. And they do. And I think everyone enjoys it when they do. But I think technically it was the right decision. And I know we'll speak about the standstill in a moment, but that game is officiated better than the AFL.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: Completely.
00:53:04
Speaker 12: There's no doubt. Now they get that so right is beyond me, and the AFL can't do it. It's like the last touch rule. I mean, they just nail that at Sample level. It's so good to watch.
00:53:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sample is vastly superior when it comes down. That game is officiated. There's no doubt about it.
00:53:19
Speaker 4: Did they learn from 48 years ago?
00:53:20
Speaker 3: That call?
00:53:22
Speaker 1: Maybe.
00:53:23
Speaker 3: The Des Foster call. Yeah, quite possibly. What about Lockie Neal, Ned? Are you of this– because this one has divided our listeners– Grand final, do you get off for that, or are the rules the rules?
00:53:37
Speaker 12: Oh, Will, I think the rules are the rules. He's going to get a week. They're going to go and challenge it, and I'd be absolutely shocked if it was turned around and he was available to play. I think, you know, in terms of how we want the game to look for young kids and watching and playing, that's really not in our game, albeit he would have been emotive after seeing his teammate wrestling with Ginnivan. But he gets a week. He doesn't miss. And it might just be a little bit of payback. He hasn't exactly been the PR poster boy for the AFL recently, Will. So I just wonder if the AFL is all sitting around going, hmm, we are in one here.
00:54:10
Speaker 4: Imagine if the AFL could give fans for PR issues.
00:54:15
Speaker 3: Well.
00:54:16
Speaker 4: That would be nice. Who's in charge of that?
00:54:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, there'd be a few rubbed out. Hey, Ned. Obviously, Norwood, great win, great final quarter, great comeback. That was a terrific grand final. Would you like to talk about that one, or would you like to talk about your grand final? Because I understand you're in the Patrick Goldsmith hurt locker on this Monday morning.
00:54:38
Speaker 12: Let's talk Norwood, Will. What about the lumberjack, Tristan Binder? He's the biggest unit I've ever seen. He could be in the wood chopping at the Royal Adelaide show. He kicked those last quarter goals. He was sensational. It was a great game. like 38,000 plus in the house, a big crowd, a beautiful day. The game was played in great spirits, like it was contested, it was hot, wasn't it? Like lots of pressure and two hard contested footy teams going at it, but just thought Norwood had a little bit more run in the last quarter, and obviously Binder being the difference with those goals, but Like the preliminary final in the AFL, just an absolute cracker.
00:55:13
Speaker 3: That's another thing, Ned, that's great about the Sample's got over the AFL. I like the diversity of bodies in the Sample. Everyone in the AFL looks like a marathon runner these days. Sample, you still get a couple of units, a couple of fridges. That's what footy needs.
00:55:25
Speaker 12: What about this binder? Did you see him, Will, in the last quarter? I mean, he has a bit of facial hair going on.
00:55:31
Speaker 3: He's a huge unit.
00:55:32
Speaker 12: He's laid back. I couldn't believe it.
00:55:34
Speaker 6: I just love him.
00:55:34
Speaker 3: Hey, Ned, we love listening to you, mate. We're looking forward to you on the sports show tonight.
00:55:39
Speaker 12: Oh, thanks, guys. Thanks for having me on. I'll be there tonight.
00:55:42
Speaker 3: Mate, we're going to retire your intro song, though, I think. We're going to have to do better.
00:55:46
Speaker 12: Well, we can get Billy's old goodnight song on. And we will all go down together.
00:55:52
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ned.
00:55:53
Speaker 4: I didn't know about that one either.
00:55:57
Speaker 7: Knockdown. Build two.
00:55:59
Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment.
00:56:03
Speaker 7: Metro Homes.
00:56:04
Speaker 4: They do it all for you.
00:56:06
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:56:10
Speaker 3: We always invite outside-the-box solutions to problems on this program, and we generally get them on the text line. I'm not sure how people feel about this one from Zed and Jay, who's wondering about the issue we have, as outlined by our demographer Mark McCrindle with the intergenerational report coming out today, that effectively we have people that are living for too long. That's the long and short of it. The average lifespan for women will be 89 and men will be 86 by the end of the intergenerational report period. Well, Zed and Jay has a solution.
00:56:40
Speaker 7: Simple.
00:56:41
Speaker 3: Fix old school manufacturing. No PSE. Use nasty old chemicals that work like magic. No airbags. No seatbelts. Lots of sweet refined sugars and fats. Puff darts. And we'd be dying shortly or shortly before retirement again. Just spitballing solutions. Thank you.
00:56:56
Speaker 4: Just spitballing.
00:56:57
Speaker 3: Just spitballing solutions.
00:56:59
Speaker 4: I wonder how our next guest would feel about that.
00:57:01
Speaker 3: I can't imagine... Well regarded Adelaide GP, Dr. Emily Kirkpatrick would agree with any of that.
00:57:07
Speaker 21: Dr.
00:57:07
Speaker 3: Kirkpatrick, good morning to you.
00:57:09
Speaker 19: Good morning to you and Will and Stacey. Good morning to your listeners.
00:57:12
Speaker 3: No, we didn't get you on to talk about the intergenerational rapport unless you've got some searing hot take for us. But we wanted to talk to you about this late flu season we've had. And I can speak from personal experience. Influenza A is ripped through our family. What leads to a late peaking flu season, Dr. Kirkpatrick?
00:57:32
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's really interesting what we're seeing with the flu patterns. And I can say this myself, I've also been suffering with a respiratory infection. So there is a lot going around at the moment in the community. But what we know really with this late onset is that we had this sort of period over the Christmas, New Year period where we had cases of influenza circulating in the community. And then we have what we call now this late season where we're seeing essentially cases still going into the springtime. And It's quite interesting, really, because typically we would say the flu is, you know, June, July, you know, you get vaccinated in March, April, good coverage over the winter period. But that reality is not the case anymore now. We know, in fact, that, you know, the flu can really happen any time of year. And particularly now we're seeing it not so much in those winter months.
00:58:19
Speaker 4: So what does that mean for the flu vaccine? Because yeah, you said usually we're told get vaccinated April, May when it comes out and it'll last for the flu season. But if the flu season's lasting longer, when should we be looking at the vaccine?
00:58:34
Speaker 19: It's a really great point. And particularly, there's a lot of work going into understanding when is the best time to have that flu vaccine. And it's interesting because we know that some people do have two flu vaccines a year. In fact, people who are typically who are immunosuppressed or might then be traveling overseas at the end of the year, often their travel doctor or their GP would advise them giving a second flu vaccine later in the year. So that advice hasn't particularly changed at all more recently, but what we are knowing is that it's not too late to get a vaccine if you haven't had one. Absolutely don't think, okay, it's past now, you know, it's past April, May, am I still at risk yes you are still at risk but also we know there's a lot of national and international work now going into this to understand when is the best time to get vaccinated and what strains is that vaccine going to cover as well because as you mentioned Will there's a lot of influenza particularly influenza A that's been circulating around in the community this year.
00:59:30
Speaker 3: How contagious is influenza compared to COVID, for example?
00:59:35
Speaker 19: It's very contagious, particularly in families. So we talk a lot around, you know, who are you having close contact with? Things are a little different now with the COVID virus and where we were initially around transmission and the different types and the variants that we've had of COVID. With the flu, it's still very much around families. at childcare schools, everywhere where you're having that close contact with someone. And so it's spread by touching things, it's spread by droplets. And what we know from how the flu moves around is that if you are having any symptoms, it's typical then that you're going to be contagious. So you have to have that exclusion period from the school's childcare. And of course, if you're unwell, don't go and visit your loved ones in an aged care facility.
01:00:18
Speaker 3: If we get an abrupt end to winter, and it's looking like we're going to get it to the end of this week, does that necessarily mean we might get an abrupt end to flu season?
01:00:27
Speaker 19: Not particularly, no. If we look at the current graphing that we're seeing nationally around flu data, we look like we've hit that peak and we're now seeing a drop-off in cases. So I would hope we're still going to see those cases drop off. But just because we've now hit this beautiful, sunny, warmer weather now, it doesn't mean the flu then disappears. What we do know is it can still linger around in the community. And particularly the data that we look at around that is hospitalisation data and how sick people are in our hospital system. But I would hope now we're over the worst of it for this year. But of course, we could have a repeat of what we saw last year, where we saw those cases then pick up towards the end of the year.
01:01:04
Speaker 6: Dr.
01:01:04
Speaker 3: Kirkpatrick, have you seen the shortage that we appear to have, that's my perspective, having shopped around for this, of things like Tamiflu and these kind of treatments that are given in the early days that sort of lessen the impact of flu. I just note that everywhere I looked at it shopping-wise, lots of places had run out. Is that a reliable reflection of the situation out there?
01:01:28
Speaker 19: What we have seen this year is more messaging about the role of Tamiflu. So Tamiflu is an antiviral that we know is best taken within the first 48 hours of developing flu-like symptoms. And it's designed for people who are immunosuppressed or have a chronic disease or at risk of hospitalisation. And I have heard a lot of really good messaging going out through both general practice, but also out to the community about getting a script for an antiviral. And in fact, it's quite interesting. We've seen a bit of an uptick as well in some of the online prescribing services. You know, people who have a virtual consult who don't go and see their usual GP, then getting antivirals. But I suspect some of that has been the more messaging out there. And of course, people saying, well, I'm sick. I'm not feeling well. You know, I was really sick last year with the flu. Am I someone eligible for antiviral? So that may be.
01:02:16
Speaker 14: Part of it.
01:02:17
Speaker 19: But typically, I find most years, there's always a struggle with getting Tamiflu all at once if you have a peak in the flu season. But there's been an interesting uptake we've found in people seeking your online prescriptions than what they previously had in other years.
01:02:31
Speaker 3: That's healthy, that uptake, do you think? That's about education?
01:02:33
Speaker 14: Absolutely.
01:02:34
Speaker 3: Not overprescription?
01:02:35
Speaker 6: Absolutely. Yep.
01:02:36
Speaker 19: Yes, and it's so easy for people to use those prescribers. Of course, our preference as a GP and what we're advocating for in the community with the AMA is that really people should be having that contact with their usual GP where possible, but online prescribing has really taken off in the last 12 months.
01:02:52
Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to get appointments now. Everyone's so busy and GPs are jam-packed full, so I guess it's a good thing that we have that option.
01:03:00
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:03:01
Speaker 4: It seems almost cruel to be sick in this weather.
01:03:03
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
01:03:04
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:03:05
Speaker 3: Absolutely. It shouldn't be allowed. It should be banned.
01:03:07
Speaker 4: Flu season should end when the temperature.
01:03:13
Speaker 3: Gets to 23. Yeah, 23 and above. That's what Albo should get on the Security Council. Forget AI. Get on the Security Council, pass a resolution, ban the flu.
01:03:21
Speaker 4: Ban the flu.
01:03:23
Speaker 16: Dr.
01:03:23
Speaker 3: Kirkpatrick, thank you for bringing some science and intelligence to the conversation. Adelaide GP, Dr. Emily Kirkpatrick. We have a wonderful week ahead, of course, with the weather, the grand final build-up, Ned on sport, as you just heard a moment ago. But, of course, to Friday night, we have the Grand Vinyl Eve show, hosted by Elite Forest, 3pm, thanks to Clarity Records, your fully independent record store serving the local music community for over 16 years, 60 Pulteney Street in the city. It's a fun night as you build up to AFL Grand Final days. You'll listen to some great vinyl records. And if it piques your interest, head into Clarity. They're terrific people. Lovely, lovely people. and good place to fatten out your record collection as well. All right, let's check traffic, and we'll come back with more in a moment. Long live recreation and the all-new RAV4 plug-in hybrid at Jarvis Toyota Brighton Road's Summit and Park.
01:04:13
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
01:04:22
Speaker 7: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:04:28
Speaker 3: Five to eight. A few good texts coming through after our conversation with Emily Kirkpatrick, our GP, on the late flu surge this morning. Someone here says, I now know why EDs are so busy. I paid $ 116 for a standard GP appointment on Friday. How is that okay?
01:04:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Medicare rebate just doesn't seem to be keeping up with the price rises.
01:04:53
Speaker 3: And I get it.
01:04:54
Speaker 4: There's demand. It's really hard to get into, at least my GP, you have to book in days in advance. So if you have a last minute sickness in the family, you can't get in.
01:05:03
Speaker 3: It's really difficult. Is there enough competition? I mean, it's often been discussed in terms of specialists where there's this controlled scarcity. Is there enough competition in GP land? The GPs might want to have that conversation, but there seems to be surplus demand at the moment and there's just not enough supply. Andrew says, morning, although Tamiflu brand may be unavailable at present, there are generic versions available on prescription in pharmacy. Thank you, Andrew. That's a really good point. I think people sometimes– because us punters, when I had it prescribed for someone in our family, I had no idea it was a brand name and not a generic name for a drug, for example.
01:05:42
Speaker 4: But don't– if you take your Tamiflu prescription to the pharmacist, don't they usually say, oh, we don't have that and we've got a generic?
01:05:48
Speaker 3: This is where dopey mugs like me get caught out because online you just Google Tamiflu.
01:05:52
Speaker 5: Oh.
01:05:52
Speaker 3: And you go to all the different chemists, out of stock, out of stock, out of stock, and you think, oh, well, there's none of it anywhere.
01:05:56
Speaker 4: Can you see stock levels?
01:05:57
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can.
01:05:58
Speaker 4: Of prescription drugs?
01:06:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that you can, I think, because it's so in such demand.
01:06:04
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:06:05
Speaker 3: Ah, that's a good tip. So good trick for young players. Yeah. Sue says, I wish my gap was 18. Mine last week was $ 58.
01:06:12
Speaker 4: Oh, no, I think Sue misheard.
01:06:14
Speaker 7: It was $ 118.
01:06:14
Speaker 3: It was $ 118. That's right.
01:06:16
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:06:16
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:06:19
Speaker 3: All right. Should we talk real estate? Let's bring Bronte Emanuel from Toop & Toop into an unfolding conversation. He is going to talk to us this morning about negative gearing. Morning to you, Bronte.
01:06:34
Speaker 7: Good morning, guys.
01:06:36
Speaker 3: So, Bronte, this was something that was obviously such a huge and hot topic of discussion around the budget with regard to the changes. At that point, it was entirely theoretical what that how that might play out in terms of the price of property, the return, so yield in terms of rent prices, and indeed the popularity of building, the kind of things that used to be quite lucrative in a world where you could negatively gear up to infinity properties. What are you actually seeing out there in practice at the moment?
01:07:07
Speaker 21: Yeah, so there was an article that came out on the weekend and it was all about the hotspots of where the most negatively geared properties were in Adelaide.
01:07:16
Speaker 7: And there was.
01:07:18
Speaker 21: It was led by Northfield, Enfield, Clearview, which kind of.
01:07:23
Speaker 7: Surprised me a little bit.
01:07:26
Speaker 21: I thought it would have been more your Norwoods, your Unleys, you know, because of the yield is a lot lower there.
01:07:32
Speaker 7: But I guess what are we finding on the ground?
01:07:33
Speaker 21: I think if we just strip it back really, really quickly, guys, like a property that's negatively geared, it means that it costs more in repayments or maintenance per year than in what you collect in.
01:07:44
Speaker 18: Rent, right?
01:07:45
Speaker 21: And what's historically happened is if you're making money, so if you're getting more rent than what your property costs to run, then typically you're in a low growth area. Typically, and I say that, you were regionally where you weren't getting the growth, but you were getting the yield. Then if you go blue chip areas or metropolitan areas, what you would then get is you would get high growth, but you would get low yield. So it'd cost you money to keep the property each week. And then if you were to go to some unicorn areas like Port Hedland or Roxby Downs, you would get a strong yield and you would get strong growth. But the risk there is it's a single stream economy. If anything happens to that mine, you can lose 50% of your investment. So a lot of people have typically gone with the high growth, low yield model, whereas now we're finding people are moving more towards a balanced model. They're looking at commercial real estate, And they are also looking at areas which are just a little bit further out where they can kind of get the hybrid of both. Melbourne was an area that was very much low growth over the last four years and.
01:08:57
Speaker 7: Very low yield.
01:09:00
Speaker 21: And in Melbourne for example people now because we think that markets going to go off they're not buying houses they're buying units because houses the yield is just too low and you just can't afford to hold it so I think people are more cognizant now of a yield than they ever had been previously and and previously they probably should have been more aware of it because at the end of the day, negatively geared, you don't spend a dollar to save 30 cents or 37 cents. It doesn't really make sense. But it kind of warped people's perceptions a little bit for a period of time.
01:09:33
Speaker 4: So is this good news for first home buyers if investors are looking at other options and not homes, freestanding homes at the moment?
01:09:44
Speaker 21: I think if you're a first home buyer, Stacey, you have money and you're ready to go, I think there's really definitely a good window. I think if you're a first home buyer and you're renting, there are investors that are putting their rents up now because they are more cognizant of covering costs than they were before. Previously, you rent the property for $ 500 a week. It's probably worth $ 650, but they think you're a good tenant. I can negatively gear it anyway. they're now wanting to get that property as quickly and as legally possible to $ 650, 000 as possible. So you're ready to go, 100%. If you're not ready to go, it's harder for you to get to the plate.
01:10:24
Speaker 3: Interesting status update on the way in which the negative gearing changes are playing out on the ground. We really appreciate it. As always, Bronnie, Bronnie Emanuel from Toop & Toop. Yesterday was your.
01:10:32
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01:10:42
Speaker 7: All for you.
01:10:43
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:10:47
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01:12:32
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a recap from the weekend. The far right takeover of the state liberal party has now occurred. Alex Antic's whole ticket got up on the weekend. So you put in a ticket. There's usually a moderate and conservative. And in this instance, there was a, the, far-right ticket put in by Alex Antic. He and his Pentecostal voters had a clean sweep of all party positions. A lot has been made, particularly by the government, over the weekend about what this means for Ashton Hearn, and they're questioning her leadership of the party, and she now doesn't have control of the state Liberal Party. I'm not buying into any of that, because the state Liberal Party leader in the parliamentary team has never had control of the state Liberal Party.
01:13:19
Speaker 3: No. They only control The parliamentary business.
01:13:22
Speaker 4: The parliamentary business. And they do control that. At the moment, the leader is decided based on a vote of the parliamentary team. So every MP, every Liberal MP in the parliament decides on who their leader is, not Alex Antic, a state president of the party, who decides. However, that's if that remains, because as I flagged last week, Alex Antic has said he does want to change some of the mechanisms within the Liberal Party and how the party controls its parliamentary teams and their policies is that possible how will that work we don't know yet we just have to wait and see what he and his supporters will do and how they can do it but one thing you can be certain of there are a lot of lawyers in the liberal party or at least people who study law yes so they will be making sure that it's constitutional and um And abides by their party's constitution, which is also something that he has sought to change in the past.
01:14:21
Speaker 3: Well, you made the point, I think it was last week in previewing this, it's still on the table that you would have potentially policy ideas come from what has traditionally been the administrative arm of the party to then be brought in and prosecuted by the parliamentary team. Because if that's the case, I can't see how that could possibly work.
01:14:43
Speaker 4: That's what he wants to achieve. And we know Alex Antic has different views to the state parliamentary team on certain matters. He's got a real anti-vaccine position. He doesn't believe in no jab, no play. So he would like to see that changed at a parliamentary level. How would that change? go down with state Liberal Party voters. Personally, I think the party is going to attempt to move more to the right, which is the space that One Nation occupies at the moment. I think we'll be watching the Liberal Party become even more irrelevant in South Australia over the next few years.
01:15:22
Speaker 3: I'm just intrigued by a mechanism that would then have or effectively compel in the most dramatic circumstances politicians who've been on the record having a view on one thing and then having to prosecute the exact opposite, which is why it's always been done the other way. And it's why it's always been done where that kind of policy work is done by people who are answerable to the voters directly as opposed to just answerable to party members. That would seem curious. The thing I'm most interested by, wherever, I mean, it's the Liberal Party's business where they think there's voter capital and where they can grow it. And clearly the members think it is by bringing Alex Anting and go to the right. What does he and those voters see as the differences between their ideal version of the Liberal Party and One Nation? What are the defining characteristics of those two entities? Because a lot of people, I think, have gone to One Nation and are feeling very comfortable with it. They like who's doing the speaking. They like how it's gone. They think it's– so is it the same thing with a bit of old-fashioned packaging– Or is it, well, what is it? What's the difference? I'd be fascinated to know what the difference is.
01:16:36
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:16:37
Speaker 4: And in all of this, it's the parliamentary team in South Australia that I kind of am feeling for. They're trying to do their job in parliament and trying to win back some voters in their seats. And, you know, they're only six months in. They've got another three and a half years to try and do that. With all of the discussion now at a state Liberal Party level, Attitude, I think it's going to be harder for them and one to watch as well is a potential federal takeover of the party because we know Tony Abbott is the president of the Liberal Party federally. He's been watching South Australia very closely and I don't think he approves of the potential attempts to change that mechanism for the parliamentary team to have to follow the state.
01:17:16
Speaker 3: Well, that would be, he's a respected conservative voice within the Liberal Party.
01:17:20
Speaker 4: And he's a traditional conservative.
01:17:21
Speaker 3: He's a traditional conservative. So I think it would have to, He's actually a great choice to be federal party leader if you're imagining a scenario where the federal party could take over the state party and anyone think it's a good idea. So, yeah, that will be a big story if that's the way it goes.
01:17:42
Speaker 7: All right.
01:17:43
Speaker 3: It's 18 minutes after eight. The 64 are going to join us in just a moment. How are they feeling? Taking all before them.
01:17:50
Speaker 4: The only South Australian team in a grand final next weekend.
01:17:53
Speaker 3: Exactly right. Are they carrying the– On the national stage at the moment, is anyone doing it as more than the 64?
01:18:01
Speaker 6: No.
01:18:03
Speaker 3: Who are our South Australian contenders for greatness as we consider the state of play right now? I think it's the 64 and Mark Butler. That's it, isn't it? Do we have anything else? 8223 0000. Text us on 048 08 13 95. We need a feel-good South Australian parochial story. The 64 are it, and they're going to join us in just a moment. Let's check traffic. Long live recreation and the all-new RAV4 plug-in hybrid at Jarvis Toyota Brighton Road, Somerton Park.
01:18:29
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
01:18:38
Speaker 7: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
01:18:40
Speaker 2: This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:18:45
Speaker 3: 23 minutes after 8, a couple of good texts coming through on 0-4-8-0-8-13-95 of South Australians to celebrate at the moment, Stace.
01:18:52
Speaker 4: Yep, because we said the 64 are the only South Australian team into a grand final coming up. So who else can we celebrate? This is what we need. I love this text from Jeff. A mate of mine, Ian Hinton from Wyala says, is playing for Australia in the eight-ball world championships on the pool tables in Marrakesh in Morocco.
01:19:12
Speaker 3: Yes, Ian.
01:19:14
Speaker 7: Ian Hinton.
01:19:15
Speaker 4: There we go.
01:19:16
Speaker 3: The hopes of a nation.
01:19:17
Speaker 4: Let's all get behind Ian.
01:19:18
Speaker 3: That's the kind of story we wanted. Good on you, Ian. A few shout-outs for the Thunderbirds, of course, who continue their reign of excellence. And Peter mentions the 36ers knocking off Melbourne without three of their key rotation pieces over the week, and that was a good win. There's always some South Australians doing wonderful things on the national or world stage. One of those has been Francis, a member of the 64, who have managed to track down, taking all before them on their way to the grand final. They are currently in a minibus driving from Horsham to Adelaide. Ben, good morning to you. When you guys are on a reality TV show, is this what happens? Are you just driven around perpetually in a minibus, you guys, so no one can see you or talk to you?
01:20:02
Speaker 11: Mate, it's not all champagne and caviar. Often it's coffee and minibuses.
01:20:12
Speaker 4: Is this how you get driven around now? I thought it would have been chartered flights.
01:20:16
Speaker 3: Oh, that's next.
01:20:18
Speaker 12: Yeah, I wish.
01:20:20
Speaker 11: But no, it is a minibus.
01:20:24
Speaker 3: So grand final, gents. I mean, we always believed.
01:20:26
Speaker 6: Did you?
01:20:26
Speaker 3: Did it waver?
01:20:30
Speaker 11: No, every kind of progression we got through that show, we couldn't believe it. And to make the grand final, it's just a real pinch ourselves moment. We never thought we'd get that far. We kind of thought we'd won after turning four chairs. So the fact that we are through and we can kind of show Australia what we've got in a grand final and have voting open is just amazing.
01:20:53
Speaker 4: So how does it work now? Can South Australians get behind you or is it up to the judges?
01:20:58
Speaker 11: No, it's not up to the coaches anymore.
01:20:59
Speaker 12: It is up to Australia.
01:21:01
Speaker 11: So if you've seen the 64 before, if you've liked what we've done on The Voice, you can vote up to three times on 0417 779 677. We'd love your support. It is a completely public vote. So we're crossing our fingers.
01:21:17
Speaker 12: I've voted.
01:21:17
Speaker 11: I've told my mum to vote.
01:21:21
Speaker 3: You know what?
01:21:21
Speaker 4: And it's not the days of text messages costing a certain amount of, cents or dollars per text. If everyone listening can send three texts, it doesn't cost you anything. Just go and do it.
01:21:33
Speaker 5: Exactly.
01:21:34
Speaker 7: Exactly.
01:21:34
Speaker 11: It just takes three seconds of time.
01:21:37
Speaker 3: You can't all come down to Ben's mum. Everyone needs to text. Do it for South Australia. Ben, where's the competition from? Is there going to be a population issue here? Have we got some sort of Sydney cider that we're going to have to knock off?
01:21:49
Speaker 11: Oh, there's a lot of competition. I mean, we were watching the semifinal last night after our show in Horsham, and I have to say, young Miller is just an incredible artist, and we're a little terrified to be going up against him. I mean, the thing is, we're looking at it like, you know, no matter who wins, everyone is a winner. A lot of the people we met on that show are going to have incredible careers. And Leila, who was with us in the semifinal on Team Ronan, is going to be an absolute superstar. And Young Miller, his voice and his raps and his message is so important. So, you know, we're looking at this like we'd love to win, but we've already won. We are just so stoked. And no matter who wins next Sunday, we'll be stoked for them.
01:22:34
Speaker 3: Well, it's a wonderful attitude. We'd like you to actually win as well.
01:22:38
Speaker 4: I'm doing it right now.
01:22:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Stacey's literally texting as we speak.
01:22:42
Speaker 4: And does it matter how I spell it? Because it's 60-6-0 and then 4-F-O-U-R?
01:22:47
Speaker 11: It is, but they will take any kind of version of 64. So don't worry about the spelling. Just get 64 into the phone.
01:22:56
Speaker 4: All right, I've just sent one. Can I just copy and paste that two more times? Yeah, that's it. Pat's laughing at me.
01:23:02
Speaker 16: What?
01:23:03
Speaker 4: If I don't do it now, I'll forget.
01:23:06
Speaker 11: No, I love it.
01:23:08
Speaker 3: This is good. This has got a real Dominion voting hanging Chad feel to the whole thing. So 64 could work in any configuration. That's good.
01:23:17
Speaker 4: I've done three. I'll tell you what.
01:23:19
Speaker 3: I'll say this right here right now. If they don't win, I'm going to declare the vote fraudulent. I don't care that it's Channel 7. Good on you, Ben. Hey, congratulations to you guys.
01:23:28
Speaker 11: Thank you. And if your listeners haven't seen our performance, it's all on the Voice Australia Facebook page. And today might be a really good time to look at it because it is the 21st night of September today.
01:23:40
Speaker 3: Yes. Good on you, Ben. Thank you. Being in the team in a minibus from Horsham to Adelaide, hopefully taking all before them and they can become grand final champions. That number is 0417 779 677. It's easy. I've just done it. Mid-interview. Surely this is the kind of... Surely the reality TV voting.
01:24:03
Speaker 3: Thing is the equivalent of how Adelaideans just go to every event. You know when people say, oh, yeah, we're going to go to Adelaide? The promoter says, just go there. You'll sell it out. It's what these people do. Surely we do this, don't we?
01:24:14
Speaker 4: Vote for the 64.
01:24:16
Speaker 6: 041-779-677.
01:24:17
Speaker 3: It's grand final week in Melbourne. They're not focusing on this.
01:24:20
Speaker 4: Like I said, costs you nothing these days.
01:24:23
Speaker 3: Costs you nothing.
01:24:25
Speaker 7: Remember?
01:24:25
Speaker 4: I remember sitting down with my parents, watching some of these game shows, and you would think, I really want to vote for that person, Mum. Oh, that's 55 cents.
01:24:34
Speaker 7: Really?
01:24:35
Speaker 4: Do you really want to do that? I'm not sure.
01:24:38
Speaker 3: Make it a good one.
01:24:39
Speaker 4: Make it count. You only get one vote. Now.
01:24:42
Speaker 6: Now.
01:24:43
Speaker 4: Send.
01:24:43
Speaker 3: Go berserk.
01:24:44
Speaker 4: Send away.
01:24:45
Speaker 3: Get bloody thumbs voting for the 64. A few more Adelaideans doing wonderful things. Tony says... Adelaide's Troy Brosnan is competing in the Downhill World Cup this weekend in Whistler, Canada, on the track that he's won the Canadi Open seven times. That's from Tony in Montague Farm. So we've got eight-ball champion and downhill skiing and Whistler champion. There are a lot of great South Australians doing things on the world stage that we never hear about, are there?
01:25:15
Speaker 4: Share it with us. We need to celebrate them.
01:25:18
Speaker 3: Keep coming through. 8223 0000.
01:25:23
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
01:25:32
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
01:25:34
Speaker 7: This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:25:36
Speaker 2: 20 to 9.
01:25:38
Speaker 3: How about this for an outside-the-box idea? The AFL are considering introducing a new time slot next year, trialling an early Friday game. North Melbourne have put their hand up to be part of the experiment, according to Cal2MeetAFL. com. So there are 11 doubleheader Friday night games last year. Sorry, there were six Friday night doubleheader games in the first 11 rounds this year, which means there usually was two on at the same time. The AFL doesn't love that. So they're considering a 6 p.m. Friday night game that would be on Fox and then a free-to-air Friday night game that would follow it and they wouldn't cross over. Well, they wouldn't cross over much.
01:26:24
Speaker 4: They wouldn't cross over?
01:26:25
Speaker 3: They'd have to cross over a little bit.
01:26:27
Speaker 4: Because the six o'clock wouldn't finish till about night.
01:26:29
Speaker 3: So there wouldn't be, the wording in the article is to avoid significant overlap.
01:26:33
Speaker 7: Right.
01:26:34
Speaker 3: So there would be a little bit of an overlap. Footy starting at 5.30 on a Friday, Adelaide time.
01:26:40
Speaker 4: I mean, if you could go straight from work.
01:26:42
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it would have to be, would you put it, you wouldn't put an Adelaide game in Melbourne on at 5.30, I wouldn't have thought. So presumably we're talking about Melbourne gamers. But as an idea, folks, what do we think? 8223 0000. We'll text us on 044808 1395. A 5.30pm Adelaide time game on Friday nights heading into a free-to-air game that would presumably start probably in that 20 to 8, 10 to 8 time slot that they sometimes have.
01:27:10
Speaker 4: I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I think from just an observer's perspective... I think AFL games go too long, especially if they start at, what are they, seven, seven-thirty usually? Taking kids to the game when they go for nearly three hours is nearly impossible in that time slot, young kids anyway. It's not very family-friendly anymore.
01:27:32
Speaker 3: The games are long, but I'm firmly in the camp that if you want to shorten them, let's get rid of stupid reviews, both boundary and goal, and let's not have less footy. The answer should be less of the stuff that gets in the way of football, not less football. But I fear that's what they're thinking. Anyway, Friday nights, 5.30 p.m. or 6.00 p.m. start. What do we think, folks? Let us know. Your instant reaction, 04808 1395. No guessing what our audience instant reaction will be to this next story because vandalism just in all of its guises is annoying. It's antisocial and it's generally the work of some fairly feeble intellect. The... magnificent old man Ricali sculpture by our next guest Clancy Warner was installed in 2023 in the city of Charles Sturt. Adams Street and River Street in Hindmarsh is where you'll find it. And it got vandalised a couple of weeks ago by some people who wanted to pinch metal from it.
01:28:32
Speaker 4: What?
01:28:32
Speaker 3: Total dropkicks. The sad update to this story is the city of Charles Sturt have announced that they're going to have to remove the statue from the site to protect it from further vandalism and investigate future options. Clancy Warner joins us now on 5AA Breakfast. Clancy, this is awful, this story. Good morning.
01:28:53
Speaker 12: Good morning.
01:28:54
Speaker 15: Yes, it is actually awful and it's actually not the first time. This is the second Old Man Ricali In this location, the first one, the vandals actually got the whole sculpture. And so we ended up replacing it. So Charles Sturt, through their insurance, got the money and I actually made him again, put him down with even more fixings, which he was very, very, very sturdy the second time. And clearly they couldn't get the whole piece off and, yeah, have been cutting pieces off him. Which, yeah, I found out because a friend of mine drove past and called me that afternoon going, I don't know for sure, but I think the Rikali staff is missing. So, yeah, I went down later that week and, yeah, lo and behold, his staff had been cut off. The water lines that were embedded into the concrete, which were also bronze, were cut off. And then a week later, because I went back at nighttime, a week later I went back again and they had come back and cut the tip of his tail off.
01:30:01
Speaker 7: Oh, it's just so dumb.
01:30:02
Speaker 4: We're looking at the pictures on our live stream now, Clancy. So tell us about the ricali. It's a specific type of rodent. Why did you want to make a sculpture of it?
01:30:14
Speaker 15: Well, the ricali is a native water rat. It is actually only one of two amphibious mammals found in Australian waterways. The Rakali were on the brink of extinction, but actually currently thriving because of conservation measures. And to see the Rakalis in our waterways is actually an indicator of good health in the waterways. And they're a lot different than your regular rat.
01:30:42
Speaker 12: These guys, they're just fascinating.
01:30:44
Speaker 15: They're like, in a way, Australia's version of an otter.
01:30:49
Speaker 13: Mm.
01:30:49
Speaker 14: Mm.
01:30:50
Speaker 15: They're not your typical rat that people think are dirty and full of diseases or anything like that. They're not scavengers per se into people's yards or anything like that. They actually dive into water and eat food from, yeah, in the waterways and whatnot. I mean, they're fascinating creatures and I think they're awesome.
01:31:14
Speaker 3: Well, your sculpture's awesome as well. Thank you. The way that you can work that material and shape it and give it that character, it's just such a remarkable skill. What's the metal that's so desired by these people?
01:31:31
Speaker 15: Well, it's bronze.
01:31:35
Speaker 3: Presumably you're not selling it for millions of dollars.
01:31:39
Speaker 6: No.
01:31:40
Speaker 15: No, you're not. But I mean, it's worth more than just selling regular steel to the scrap merchants. And recently, bronze prices have gone through the roof. But they're not getting a huge amount. I mean, it's worth way more as a sculpture. And especially, yeah, it's loved way more as.
01:32:00
Speaker 12: A full sculpture.
01:32:01
Speaker 15: But yeah, I think it's got to be, you know, junkies, methods, etc., that want a quick fix. And with the beauty of portable angle grinders these days, there you go. They can come along and cut them up, which is really sad and depressing, especially for bronze sculptors, because, I mean, if this keeps happening and there's no legislation around it, like, say, cameras or accountability for the scrap metal merchants... we're not going to see as many bronze sculptures around because it's too much of a liability. So, and that's a lot of, you know, our livelihood of the bronze, yeah, people that do do the bronze casting and things like that. So it's, yeah, not good. I mean, it's not hard for scrap metal merchants to take ID, to photograph the pieces that are coming in. But as far as I know, that doesn't happen. So that means anyone that can cut up a sculpture can just take it in, sell it, and get their money, get their quick fix, and move on to something else.
01:33:06
Speaker 10: So, yeah, it's devastating.
01:33:09
Speaker 15: And we put our hearts and souls into these pieces. All the animals that I make, I swear, they come to life. And people, especially this Rakali, I've had so much feedback. When the first one was stolen... The community was.
01:33:22
Speaker 12: It was a huge outcry.
01:33:23
Speaker 15: There was even talk of crowdfunding to get him back. But luckily the insurance came through, so people absolutely loved him.
01:33:33
Speaker 12: So, yeah, it's.
01:33:34
Speaker 15: Heartbreaking that someone just doesn't respect the piece, doesn't respect the artist, doesn't respect the public to actually just come along and cut pieces off it.
01:33:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's so disappointing.
01:33:50
Speaker 5: It is.
01:33:50
Speaker 4: So do you know that the council's removed this one? Do you know if there'll be another one somewhere else that's a bit more secure?
01:33:56
Speaker 15: Well, the council's removed it. So because of the coming back at least two times to cut off more pieces, they were really worried that more of it was going to get cut off. So it got returned to me last week. And so they're just waiting for insurance, hopefully, to come through and we will fix it again. and it sounds like they're talking about putting it into an inside location so it will not get vandalized again, it will be safe, and there's also talk about potentially a wooden Rakali going back in its place. That way the thieves, it's not worth anything for them to vandalize it, so hopefully it will be let in place. This is all still up in the air right now. Charles Sturt has been... really great. Their crew actually came, they chipped off all the concrete for me before returning it with the base, which was a huge, huge job. So they've been fantastic and they're really trying to make this work and they're really upset that this has been vandalized multiple times now. So hopefully the end picture will be this guy, the old man Rikali, will move indoors somewhere in a public location so people can actually see him whether it's visiting a council of buildings or whatnot. We're not sure where he is going to go at this point.
01:35:20
Speaker 4: Let's hope that happens, Clancy, and the vandals. I was about to swear. Go away.
01:35:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed. Clancy Warner, a wonderful artist, and it's a nice piece of work. And I just had a thought as you guys were talking at the end there, maybe if these sorts of statues are both attractive and catnip for methad or dropkicks, um, Maybe we should just have a few of them around the place with cameras nearby. If they can't resist, it might be a nice, easy way to get them off the street. Presuming they get locked up, but that's probably a pipe dream as well. 10 to 9, should we do some texts now about the time slot or should we leave them, do you think?
01:36:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got quite a few.
01:36:02
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break. Let's check traffic. We'll come back with some thoughts because there's a few on the statue, the vandalism, and indeed the trial– 5.30 p.m. Adelaide time slot in the AFL that we'll get to in a moment. Long live recreation, the all-new RAV4 plug-in hybrid at Jarvis, Toyota, Brighton Road, Summit and Park.
01:36:21
Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
01:36:29
Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:36:33
Speaker 3: 5 to 9. Not a lot of love for the AFL's rumoured trial of a new time slot for footy. 6pm Eastern Time on a Friday night to try and solve the issue of having two games on at the same time when they have Friday doubleheaders. Andrew says, don't like it. Too early a start, an overlap and too late a finish. Mark says, well, Friday night, things are simple solution. Play one in Melbourne and the other one in Perth because the time difference will work itself all out. Makes sense. Chris doesn't like it as an idea and has used florid language to say what he thinks of it, which is fine. Guys, there's a big no to the 5.30 p.m. start for an AFL game. I want to watch the seven news first and then I'll settle in to an AFL game. Thank you. Just a couple of other tidbits from that article. Port want to host the first showdown home on a Friday night to coincide with the 150 years anniversary of the Sandfull. So that would be a big night for South Australian football. And the Crows have put in a bid as well about travelling around five-day breaks. But those are the big headlines.
01:37:31
Speaker 4: Aren't Port leaving the Sandfull?
01:37:33
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, yeah.
01:37:35
Speaker 4: Is that a bit awkward? Celebrating an anniversary of something you might not be?
01:37:38
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're happy to celebrate the history of the Sandfull.
01:37:41
Speaker 4: Okay.
01:37:41
Speaker 3: Whilst not willing to be part of its future.
01:37:43
Speaker 4: All right.
01:37:45
Speaker 3: I think that would be how they would describe it. It's an odd fit. But it's an odd opportunity to wear the prison bars jumper.
01:37:52
Speaker 4: Of course.
01:37:53
Speaker 3: So, you know, that wins out. Any opportunity.
01:37:55
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:37:57
Speaker 4: Well, tomorrow night, let's move on, there will be a special council meeting for the Norwood Painterman St Peter's Council, and this relates to the MotoGP track. So far, when we've heard of councils wanting information and having views on the MotoGP, it's been the Adelaide City Council because it's the one directly affected. So why is Norwood, Payneham and St Peter's Council holding its own special meeting? Councillor Scott Sims joins you now. Good morning to you, Scott Sims. Thanks for your time.
01:38:26
Speaker 10: Good morning.
01:38:28
Speaker 4: What's the point of this special? council meeting and what do you hope it'll achieve?
01:38:33
Speaker 10: I actually live in Camp Town, which is directly next to the Caterpillar Terrace. I pretty much get all the noise. But look, I'm going to say something pretty controversial and say the Premier's Week is He's now transferred the MotoGP, sorry, the Adelaide Motorsports Act of 1984 to the health minister because he won't give anyone information. We don't have proper detail. And I'm not really sure what I can say is that we're just not informed. We're not considered. And the parklands were set up for, you know, the community. It was where you want to build apartments. I actually live in an apartment myself, but I don't know what else I can say. It's just bullshit. Sorry to say, but I shouldn't swear on radio, but I've never been more frustrated in my career as a counsellor.
01:39:43
Speaker 4: So you say this approach is to get best possible outcome for your area out of this change. To you, what is the best outcome?
01:39:54
Speaker 10: Send it to the band. You can't replace 300 mature trees. It's just greenwashing. That's what the government is doing. They are absolutely going to go ahead with the project. The guess is taking a step back after we have to try and get the best outcome we can as a council.
01:40:23
Speaker 6: All right.
01:40:25
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for your time this morning, and we'll see what is the outcome of that meeting tomorrow night, special council meeting.
01:40:30
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01:40:57
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01:40:57
Speaker 3: Have a wonderful Monday.
01:41:12
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