FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 16 July 2026

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Speaker 1: Stuff you Argentina where the English came there?
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Speaker 2: You been.
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Speaker 3: Knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes they do it all for you.
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Speaker 4: Live from hein Marsh Square.
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Speaker 5: It's five double a Breakfast, Will Goodings with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 4: Six after six, Good morning? Do you welcome to Thursday on five Double A Breakfast? How are the fingernails? England fans, if you're currently watching that World Cup clash, maybe you've probably not have got the radio on. Maybe you've just turned it on because you've got to walk away from a television screen because it's getting excited in the background. Exactly right, it's always on in the background. Is it coming home? We'll be talking about it. We're going to be crossing two England fans very very shortly if anyone answers the phoe. But it is precariously perched at potential World Cup final appearance is now just probably somewhere in the order of twenty minutes away. The score line holds, and it does momentarily as Jordan Pickford just makes it safe on the goal. Lie, But I'm not going to call the game. There's lots to talk about going on around the world. This is disturbing. We could run out of palmers and cheese. Bad weather in Europe is really dramatically leading to wildfires. Less dramatically, but perhaps inconveniently for our pastor lovers in Australia, it means palmes and jeese is running out. We chatting with the wonderful Chris Lloyd from Woodside Cheese after six thirty today. Also, what's happening with the fuel prices? Each day we seem to get an increasingly incredible headline out of the straight of Horn moves. Well, what does it mean when you go to fill up at the bowser? What's it going to mean for the rest of the year. We'll get to the bottom of that. Do we need screens protecting fast food workers in the city? We do At Machers Hungary Jackson KFC have had pretty ordinary incidents in recent time and the union says enough's enough. We need to protect these kids. That we'll talk about that after seven o'clock. Speaking of help, FIS shows concerned that at the end of this month our Gill Bloom assistance expires and as such they were saying, well hang on, not the fish aren't all back. What happens to our business? So we'll talk about that. Ryan Fitzgerald on the program, Lot's to discuss Stacey Lee, good morning.
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Speaker 1: To you, Good morning Will. How are you?
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Speaker 4: I'm well when I'm this football game, So I apologize in advance if you stop talking England holding off for grim death at the moment. I particularly taken by Stacy because I love I mean, I would be watching anyway. This is some radio theatrics. But there are rivalries and then there are rivalries. We love the showdown in Adelaide. Oh yeah, the Argentine Vice president. I wasn't familiar with Victoria Villa Royale's work Villa Ruel her work previously. But in anticipation of this game argent Argentina England, she took to social media and said this, I'm not going to be politically correct or cold hearted against the English. It's always something more. It's the mal Venus, which is what they call the Falkland Islands. Of course, you know, I think these countries are at war in five six decades ago. It's Diego Diego Gussie, the ship that got sunk, It's Leo's last one. It's putting the brakes on the invaders, go Argentina because until our last breath, we're going to claim what's ours. And just adding some spice to those comments, her father was part of the invading Argentine force that landed on the Falkland Islands. My god, the funny part about this is the Argentide managers said before the game, can we just not let's not do politics. Can we just talk about the game? Can we talk forty please? And so she took it in a tighly different direction. It got me thinking about not necessarily the greatest rivalries of over history, but some of your favorites eight double two to three double double or textas on zero before zero eight thirteen ninety five, your favorite rivalries, and I thought of a few over a couple of non sporting areas as well. And if you think of any state, or our listeners think of it, he would love to your favorite sorts of rivalries. I think there's a good one in the world of music, and it's I was inspired a bit by this match Oasis. Of course they see Wonderall at the end. The brick pop rivalry of the nineties Oasis and Blur was that sort of divided England because it was class base. He had the southern London Nazi kids up against the Manchester sort of working class guy that was. That was a terrific sort of music rivalry. Lots of music rivalries our listeners might like to think about Stallone Schwarzenegger in the eighties, who was the biggest action star. I don't think they were rivals, but I think people always saw it as a rivalry because of those two guys. And I think locally politically politics is actually the easiest to do this in is Pine Benardi.
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Speaker 1: Yes, good rivalry, good rivalry, funny enough.
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Speaker 4: All the rivalries I thought of all within parties, not external post.
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Speaker 1: No, No, it wasn't labor libs. It was lib lib.
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Speaker 4: I was suppose you could do albow Pine. That was a sort of a thing. But it was friendly. It was too friendly one one. You're right.
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Speaker 1: I feel like they both kind of enjoyed that rivalry. Yeah, I remember when I was at Sky News as well, Pine and Miles Richard Marles they did, didn't they And it had a show together, that's right, hilarious.
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Speaker 4: So they obviously got on okay, and didn't they. Yeah, you don't sit down and do that kind of thing if you really.
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Speaker 1: Know well, they would pre plan it together. Yeah, that was it.
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Speaker 4: Could be the next prime minister. Males, couldn't he.
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Speaker 1: I thought for a minute. Then I thought you were going to buy it, and I went take a lot.
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Speaker 4: That would require some Are there any moderates left? I don't know if he would have any charts? So your favorite rivalries eight double two three double a double or Texas on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 1: I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Speaker 4: That's right, No, no, that's all right. We'll come text some listeners will jog your memory. I wonder if we've got I got sent by the Peter Republican Peter Hurley, wonderful publican, terrific bloke, Peter pictures of the Arkabar At the moment, I don't know if we've got them. Oh yes we do. Here we go on the Facebook and YouTube live stream thanks to the wonderful Walker Mile people step up and homelesses walk a mile in my boots registered or donate today walk a mile dot or you have a look at the Arquabar. And that was probably about four thirty am this morning.
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Speaker 1: It is full.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how many. You're probably better estimating crowds than I am. That looks like there's literally no space for anyone. There must be seventy five England Jerseys in the England tops in that front area.
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of hundred people, a lot of concerned and do you know what I The first thing I noticed was the mix of drinks. I always say, some coffees. People are waking up, going no, I'm on the coffees. Lots of beers, a couple of kids drinking cokes.
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Speaker 4: I'm glad. I'm glad you said that said what that sentence was going after the.
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Speaker 1: Beers, kids, but more coffees than I thought there would be. Yeah, yeah, which I was impressed by. I don't think I could ever wake up and have it. I don't think that'd ever be a day where I could wake up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, waking up, Yeah, waking up to a beer is tough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I actually said to pattern Jess earlier. Are people waking up and watching this game or are you staying up to watch the game, Because if you're staying up, I could understand the beer. But if you're waking up. I can't understand the beer.
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Speaker 4: Yeah maybe that said sometimes you just needed to get you through. If you if your side is one mill up in the eighty second minute on the cusp of a World Cup final birth. Let's talk rivalries because Architina England is Riggie did rivalry dug In blake View. If you've got a favorite for us.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it will never really be by Ida, that'sus Cherry Well will always see hold yeah.
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Speaker 4: Hold Well. Nothing will be as emotional or people will be and as invested as holding be Forward when that's where people went to work. Dug in Adelaide that that you know, we're never gonna have it a connection with a car brand like that again, are we?
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Speaker 6: And that's generational like you you know if your parents always old and you had always have Holden you know yea.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, that's that's a quintessential ESA rivalry as well. Yes it's an Australian rivalry. But I think the Holden connection makes it.
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Speaker 1: What was your family?
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Speaker 4: Uh well we had a Forward actually we were Holden. Yeah there you go look at us. Now you go for Port Michael and Ross Trafford.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, the local political scene.
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Speaker 4: I was, Michael, just start again, Michael, you just dropped your phone, just dropped out the.
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Speaker 8: Local political Nick Xenophon.
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Speaker 9: Is he a rival or was he just a disruptor?
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'll leave that with you. And the other thing is, can you recall when you and Dave the calling of was it the World Cup?
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Speaker 9: About four years ago on radio live?
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Speaker 4: Now you know technically, Michael, if thief is listening, we didn't call that. Okay, that was that was the That was the Australian qualifier against Peru in a penalty cheet. That happened live or on the air. Yes, I remember it fully.
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Speaker 8: Good morning, Good your.
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Speaker 4: Michael, thank you made I appreciate that. Well, let's see, let's head to an England fan who's at Scott City in the casino. Joe, good morning, how are the nerves?
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Speaker 10: Joe?
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Speaker 11: Hey?
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Speaker 4: You going?
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Speaker 1: Look, it's hard to hear you. It's busting air one the UK six minutes ago.
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Speaker 4: Are you're going to get it done? Joe? Are you confidable? Mate?
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Speaker 12: My heart's telling me, yes, my belly's telling me.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Hey, who's been the hero?
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Speaker 1: Joe?
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Speaker 4: I see it was Gordon that scored, But who's been the hero for England beyond him.
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Speaker 8: Mate, Honestly, chet Spence has been phenomenal today. I'm a first fan, so I'm a bit but he's been class.
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Speaker 10: But all tournaments it's been oh, it's been through Bellingham. But pis been unbelievable today.
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Speaker 8: I was Gord enough, but then he scored.
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Speaker 4: So I love him again. Pickford. As we spoke, you just heard the reaction of the background. Is my fingertip save they're coming the Argies. So how many people do you reckon? They're at.
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Speaker 10: It?
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Speaker 8: Don't down there.
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Speaker 4: And it sounds like in full voice and singing. Are your old English fans? Are there any Argentine Argentine fans?
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Speaker 13: Oh?
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Speaker 14: No, oh no, Joe Argentinas just scored.
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Speaker 1: Joe, how are you feeling?
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Speaker 8: Look not not great anymore. It looks I'm going to go to extra time.
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Speaker 1: But in the minute eight or fifth minute.
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Speaker 8: Eighty fifth minute I just seen her. Are just gor.
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Speaker 1: I feel bad that you're on radio for this, Joe?
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Speaker 8: Are you okay? I'm humorous. I just apologize for any language in the background right now.
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Speaker 4: That's all right, Joe. Well, that sound is the worst sound in sport. That was the sound of the not the air being sucked out of the room and the hope being sucked out of the English daspaining in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Oh that was he was there for that moment, poor Joe.
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Speaker 4: I actually I turned it down because I did start to hear some cussing in the background. Is there is a cruelty to this sport like no other sport, I think because the tension is so great for so long, and it only ever takes just one moment, and the moments are hard to come back from and it can all be taken away. And England my last one I worked up in nineteen sixty six. It's been a long time, but sixty years. They were seven eight minutes away from making another final and just then it all changed.
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Speaker 1: And those moments, you know, you say it comes down to one moment, Why do they always happen in the last in the dying minutes? It feels like it puting on everyone.
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Speaker 4: Pressure breaks pipes as they say. I just that was awful. I just I love sport and I just know I know that feeling when the expectation is high and look it's one all, it's one all today our mind. You we should acknowledge to We've got a whole bunch of listeners who just think sucked in England with every bad who are going fantastic. But I felt for Joe because we was talking to them in the air at that at that particular moment.
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Speaker 1: All right, we're getting some other rivalries.
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Speaker 4: Get us with some rivalries and.
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Speaker 1: Keep them coming. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, Brent says, obviously crows and power and nothing bigger. Rob are like these coke and pepsi.
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Speaker 4: Oh that's good. Where do you sit on coke and pepsi?
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Speaker 1: Coke every day?
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Speaker 14: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Okay that I don't drink the full sugar on.
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Speaker 4: No, so coke zero and pepsi max?
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Speaker 1: Yes, yep, are you what are you?
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Speaker 4: Neither? Really? But I would actually go pepsi max really. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we disagree on everything.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is good.
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Speaker 1: And road Runner and Wildie Coyote.
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Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, it's a rivalry. Yeah, I think most people's sympathies were with Roadrunner. Yeah, the road Runner typically albeit unbeaten the Roadrunners. It turns out, I like this is a niche one. Chris says worked in video stores for years. VHS versus a beta in the eighties. I know you're going to make that face. One of the few people we had a beta machine at home, and the amount of times you'd have to go to you go to the video store and they're like, oh, beata, yeah, I think we got a section somewhere, or yeah, I remember getting a baby sat by friends parents at ours and we went more bought videos and they thought we were a normal family, so they got vhs and none of them fit in the machine. It was a devastating movie night.
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Speaker 1: Thought we were a normal family.
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Speaker 4: My father because always say the beat it was a superior image. Oh yeah, but no one else planet Earth agreed.
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Speaker 1: TV Man, exactly right.
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Speaker 4: Keep those rivalries coming in the terrific zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five or call us an eight double two three double a double a.
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Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Twenty three minutes after six heart ache for England fans. Oh my goodness, it was just five minutes ago. We started talking with Joe at sky City. Stacey and in that time we heard live an equalizer and in the just the last few seconds of that ad break, Argentina have taken a two to one lead with two minutes expired. In a nine minute injury time period, they hit the post. Messy recovered a ball and then whipped in a cross and it was headed into the back post. Argentina on the cusp of going through to a World Cup final to take on Spain. It was Messy who created it. Ninety second minute. England had been holding out, Pickford had been brave. It's just devastating for our I just we've got so many listeners who will be a mo invested in this this morning. Yeah you know that said. I like Jeff's text to us a short time ago, Jeff who said, look, I don't give a stuff about soccer, it's not our national game. But he made the point he said, he's our manufacturing sector so stuffed. We can't even produce parmes and cheese here anymore. Parmesan cheese shortage. Will be talking about that after six point thirty this morning, Cows and weather. As it turns out, Jeff, it's I'm not sure heavy industry really.
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Speaker 1: Apparently it's because the cows don't like to well, they're not eating as much in the heat.
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Speaker 4: Yes, so they're not producing enough.
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Speaker 1: I don't think there is a type of weather that stops me eating well. I don't have much in common with the cows.
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Speaker 4: Let's head to Elizabeth Park, Peter, if you've got a rivalry for us?
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Speaker 8: Yes, Salmon Ralph.
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Speaker 4: Salmon roel the sheep dog. That's a that's a perfect one, celebrated in cartoon form. Salmon Ralph of course eight double two three double o double keep them coming into for zero eight thirty ninety five. Do you do you want to read a couple of texts?
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Speaker 1: Yes, this question from Will and Goodwood New rivalry Joe and five double A. The minute he got on the phone to us, we jinxed it went downhill for England.
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Speaker 4: We jinxed it, Sorry, Joey. The English fans sing It's coming home. It's the three lines is the name of the actual song by a comedy duo Baddy Elend Skinner, and people often think, oh, you stupid England fans. Are you celebrating before you've won? That song's written by comedy due are. The actual song is about how despite the fact in making no sense England. It's because something always bad happens. We're just going to hope magically something good happens for once. That's what actually that song is all about. And it's just it's a little of a sudden so appropriate the context of what we've just seen. Two one Argentina four and a half minutes lapsed in the extra time period. Let's ever look at the weather here in Adelaide today before we get Tom Brennan with all his analysis. It is cold outside four point three degrees. The apparent temperature is just three, so as cold as the morning as we've had all week. Sixteen is the expected top today. Over the course of the next couple of days, it'll get say, around that range seventeen tomorrow, eighteen, Saturday and Sunday, and sticking around seventeen eighteen for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next week with no rain on the forecast. Julian Blakevie, you've got a rivalry for us?
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Speaker 15: Yeah, good morning, Will and Stacey. Well, before I give you my rivalries libraries, yes, can I please give a shout out to a friend who lives in Germany. He works for His name is Mark and he works for bm is a mechanical engineer, and he works for BMW in Germany. And he listens to five double A.
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Speaker 4: Oh well good good, well, not good morning there. It's probably a good evening, isn't it. Of course you can Julie.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, so hello Mark, and you know he loves five double A. He's only young, he's I think he's only about thirty thirty one. He's a friend of the family and got a great born idiot Mark yep. And also too would be Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, a cross party one.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, you know I love politics. Will and Anthony Stevens and Wayne Kerry.
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, that was a certainly on Fiel rival with it exploded at one point in time, didn't it, Tom Rens. And he's not faced near a mouth, near a microphone, but his face was on camera and he sort of enjoyed that call from Julie I think. But everyone's fixated on the on the soccer at the moment. Tom ran in the studio with this glider or garage doors proudly and brilliantly made in South Australia glider old dot com dot are you are we seeing Reny the waning moments of England's World Cup four Yeah, it looks like it.
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Speaker 14: They went one. Nell Arp just shied the hour mark, so it looked like they were going to go through to their first finals since nineteen sixty six. And things are going great. Anthony Gordon lovely worked goal from the right, but Argentina the last half an hour have dominated wave after wave after wave, and England just cannot withstanding the barage that's come their way. They equalized. It was a worldy the equalizing goal from outside the box. And then this in the last two or three minutes happened.
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Speaker 4: Callista, he's the post for a second time. He's had both posts.
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Speaker 8: Messy. Oh they're in trouble.
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Speaker 9: Maybe true.
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Speaker 16: Latro Martinez, they're going out to the semi final stage.
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Speaker 4: He's been header after Hannah after Hannah. Come this from Time's the buck of the note.
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Speaker 14: Martin Tyler there on SBS just nailed it. He's right, just airially. They've been tested time after time and they just cannot withstand it. So there's two minutes to go. England about to go down at the hands of Argentina yet again.
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Speaker 4: It's one of those moments in sport, where as a fan you sort of think couldn't have just been three nil, couldn't have been over it? I would have been would have been easier if it was over at halftime and sitting there in the eighty fourth minute thinking we could make a World Cup final. It's going to be taken away from.
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Speaker 14: You to get so close. Yeah, it's an interesting question, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: You know, to the onlookers, if you're not great, this is the game you want.
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Speaker 4: To It's tense, there's spectacular.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, and like we'll said, this rival I mean, we talk about the rivalries we have here, but this is on another level. You know, this is this is you know, country verse, country culture, you know all that stuff and history. There's a lot going on. Look, England are pressing, they're trying desperately, they're thrown. They'll throw Jordan Pickford forward who's their keeper, to try and score, but they just they just can't get it.
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Speaker 4: So what we're thirty seconds away from what will be in Argentina Spain final final? Who who do you fancy in that one reading.
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Speaker 14: I've loved what I've seen from Spain. They've only considered one goal all tournament. I think Argentina have been there for the taking, but no one's been able to do it. I said pre tournament, I thought it might be France or Spain, so ID stick with Spain. I think Spain will probably take it out. But that said Argentina, you know, when you've got Messi and all these other guys in world class, it's a great final. I would have loved to have seen England make it, but you've got to tip your cap Argentina or extraordinary, just extraordinary.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are what drama at the World gar Amazing, isn't it. Well the final is Monday morning and that.
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Speaker 14: Will be in New Jersey, so that will be this time Monday morning time. Yeah, and they do have a third place playoff which we've played on the Sunday morning. But clearly there's nobody really cares.
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Speaker 4: Too much about that.
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Speaker 1: How would that feel?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you wouldn't real third, It's.
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Speaker 1: Kind of cool.
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Speaker 4: It depends. So for England, I reckon that's it's a consolation that they'd rather. I wouldn't care about it. They're a big formalling nation. But I know when Poland finished third in the early eighties, it's the crowning achievement. Of the country. It's the greatest moment, the sporting moment in the country. If Australia came here, it's like the Boomers winning a bronze medal was always like this was this, we could never get over the hurdle. So yeah, it just depends on the country. I don't think England they would be celebrating a third place now unfortunately. Yeah, good on your reading.
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Speaker 14: Thanks guys, great work.
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Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Twenty one minutes to seven. If you're missing AFL related content, I do not despare. Ryan fitz Stuard will be on the program a little bit late in the morning. We'll go through the tips with Fitzie and the big issues that are knocking around the AFL at the moment. But we're looking at life pictures of juonos areas in Argentina as we speak, where it is ecstasy elation. There must be tens of thousands of people in a square there that have watched the game. The light at their side overturned a one goal deficit very very late in the contest, and it's hard. Stacy's mum's heart is breaking for every little child that's shone in tears.
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Speaker 1: Doing this to me. They keep putting crying kids up on the screen with you know, the England flag.
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Speaker 4: Papers are emotionally manipulated. They are. It is a tough one. It got the game itself got us talking about the great rivalries in not just sport, but politics, music, entertainment. Bruce and Greenacres has got one for us morning, Bruce.
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Speaker 13: No mining station. We're the chapel really just the two of the Italian soccer rale REI. For over two decades I was a sports trainer in soccer and helping out the Italian base full in the United Club and not to meet the amazing Remo Paris who was a legendary sports trainer Berdelaide City and in the Sydney Olympics. He was looking out for the Nigerian team and Remo is a big Lazio fan from Rome and the big rival there local Darby against Roma and the Nigerian team. There was a Roma player and Remo dared to try and get a picture of this ruma player in a Lazier uniform and very very harshly there no, no, no, no Lazio to happen. No player was going to, you know, compromise his career putting on a Lantier uniform. And one day, fulling United, I did compare Showdown versus Crows to the Milan Derby and I had this icy silence. I've never had that at the club over two decades. And then I quickly backtracked and said, I'm all like west Ham versus topping Us. Looked at me, said, yeah, that's more like it. Don't compare Into Milan and Ac Milanty Crows versus Power ever, just to give you the passion of what goes on these derby games.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's scary. I've been to a Latier game at studying Olympic Code. I ended up an elderly Italian gentleman hugging me when they scored in the seventy fourth minute and it was just one of the most amazing experiences ever. Ac Milan versus Into Milan is the kind of rivalry that would never exist in football because it's built around the different. Weirdly the ideologies of the football clubs, not political, but in terms of what their role is is a big club. So ac Milan said, we went outside field with local Italian players, that's what we should be about. Into Milan said, well, no, we're trying to create the best team in the best league in the world. We're going to bring it inter national players. So the genesis of that rivalries, I understand it is this different philosophy about looking after local Italians versus no, we're going to be the best club in the world. And I think now they're both populated frankly by players from all over the world. But that's where it all start. It speak. Let's talk about a bit more about Italy because there's a parmers and cheese crisis. This is quite serious. The heat wave that's gone through it serious. This is very serious.
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Speaker 1: Do you get the smile off your face.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to I love parmers and cheese. Lot of fires in Europe because of the heat, but the inclement weather is meant too. As you detailed the first hour half hour days that the cows aren't eating as much, they're not producing as much milk, they're not producing as much of Ultimately what becomes palmes and cheese and the other thing that's happening in the places they store it are being compromised as well, So it's an attack on all sides. We want to get to Chris Lloyd into this conversation, the founder, of course, of Cheese Fest and the director of Woodside Cheese. Chris, good morning to you.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Chris. I'm sitting here wearing my Cheese Fest hat because when I saw this news, I just thought this is unbelievable.
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Speaker 17: I was waiting for that.
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Speaker 1: No, but seriously, what would we do without parmesan cheese? Is there a serious concern about a shortage? Is there really?
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Speaker 10: Oh?
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Speaker 17: Look, I think you know they're saying extinction, and I think that that's a bit of a dramatic word. But look, I mean the threat is real, it's there, and the concern is really the reduced milk because the cows are a bit heat stress, they're not going to eat as much. And I think the main thing with the parmesan is they can't then say oh, well, we'll get more cows in or will go to a different region to make the cheese. It's really controlled. Parmigiano Reggiano is controlled by the denomination of origin control and basically that's what that does is it gives very very strict guidelines about how it is made. The cows have to come from a particular region. In fact, the cheesemaker has to be a certified cheesemaker and it has to be made according to those guidelines, so they can't drop and change where they get their milk from. And cows under a heat stress eat less, produce less milk, and the heat can also affect the milk's fat and protein balance, and all of these opponents when you're making cheese are incredibly important.
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Speaker 4: So Chris, I apologize in advance of this is a stupid question, but we mentioned a Parmegano reggiano is Germaine, Italy, and it's that's that's technically Palmesan cheese as is defined. Do we do any Australian style version.
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Speaker 17: Oh yes we do, Yeah, we do. And those cheeses that we make in Australia or in fact anywhere else in the world that anyone wants to make a Parmesan style might be allowed to be called Pavagana riggiano, and that's the one that gets stamped and each each individual cheese, the real McCoy I'm talking about is actually inspected by an inspector. There is a pamagana reggiano inspector and he will, yeah, he taps the cheese and listens to any hollow sounds perhaps that might be coming from that cheese. Once deems that cheese to be appropriate, and it's all been made within the guidelines of the denomination of origin control, then you can actually have that. You may have seen and your listeners may have seen a little stamp that happens on the outside of a real parmesan. That is what indicates that it is an actual parmesan made under those guidelines in Italy. Yes, we do make it in Australia, but we don't make it in the same way. We generally don't make it in the same size, and certainly not under those strict guidelines.
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Speaker 1: Okay, And so when I was reading this, I thought, they've got temperatures of around forty degrees in Italy, which is the concern. That's why the cows aren't eating. You know, we get that here. We've got similar hot, dry summary conditions that we have here. Do we have similar concerns in summer for our parmesan style version of cheese, Cris or are we just more used to the conditions.
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Speaker 17: I think we are more used to the conditions. Obviously we have you know, extreme weather and extreme heat, particularly obviously in the summertime, and we've arranged our you know, maturing rooms and so on to be able to withstand its conditions. Whereas I think you said earlier, it's also the maturation. A lot of these a lot of these places where they actually mature the cheese are not necessarily air conditioned. That might be in caves or in big halls where there isn't any air conditioning, so obviously they're going to be affected. We I mean, we're very well versed in heat over here in Australia, so our areas that we would do that type of maturation, they would be cooled and we'd have control over the temperature of them.
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Speaker 1: Okay, good, good, all right. So it feels like our pastor it's all good.
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Speaker 4: That was good on fire this morning, so too is Chris Lloyd, founder of Cheese First and director of Woodside Cheese. Chris, thank you for your expertise and calming our palms and related fears this morning. Rivalries. Kate says, Beatles and Rolling Stones.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one.
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Speaker 4: Which I can't believe it. Kate took us forty seven minutes to get to Beetles and Rolling Stones. But yeah, that's the ultimate music rivalry, isn't it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Antnet has another music related one, Donna and Cindy Lauper back in the day.
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Speaker 4: Oh that's good. Yeah, I like that. I don't know which wade fall on that. I'm quite partial. But Michelle says the Calgary Flames Edmonton Oilers. That's in hockey, both Canadian teams. The hatred is real and it's a showdown on steroids. Plus they playge other five times in a season. Michelle, that does sound quite fierce. Keeping coming in before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, or you can give us a call a eight double two three double o double. In the meantime, we're going to tell you now how cold you are, because it is freezing outside at the moment. Tom Anderson at the Weather Bureau joined the Sporting.
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Speaker 18: Tom, good morning.
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Speaker 4: How loaded it is it gotten throughout this morning? Overnight?
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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, it got down to three degrees in the city, A little bit colder at couple of the airports but they are pretty exposed sites. So our power field site got down to one point six degrees, so some of the northern suburbs this morning would have been pretty chilly. Luckily, it looks pretty clear, so once his sun powers up a little bit, should be a pretty lovely day ahead.
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Speaker 4: And then what about as we progress towards the weekend.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, pretty much the same conditions for the next few days. We're going to see the temperatures increase a little bit over the next couple of days. So we're only looking at a top of sixteen today, but we're looking at top of seventeen tomorrow and then eighteen for the weekend. Mostly sunny as well, so we should have some pretty cool nights ahead. Likely that this morning is probably about as cool as we're going to get. We might have a little bit more of a northerly wind coming through to just keep the frost away in the mornings. But basically the story all the way through to the new week is calm, sunny days, a little bit chilly overnight.
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Speaker 4: Good on your tom Thank you for that, Let's said to say, Poul. Now seeing you. Constable Rebecca Stokes is on the line. Rebecca, this is extraordinary. A drink driver's been caught five times over the limit.
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Speaker 19: Yes, so please put over this decl on Woodford Row, Elizabeth North at nine pm last night for a mobile driver test, and the driver's a thirty one year old woman from the state's west coast. She recorded a blood alcohol reading a point two sixty nine, which is well over five times the legal limit. But also of concern to police was that she had a child in the car with her at the time, so she's been reported for driving under the influence as well as drink driving with a child under the age of sixteen present in the vehicle. So she'll be summons to appearing call Adelaida date. But in the meantime she has lost her license on the spot for twelve months.
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Speaker 4: That's extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.
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Speaker 4: I'm glad. I was going to ask you until you said that, Rebecca. Is it a separate offense when there's a child on board?
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Speaker 19: Yes, it is actually a separate offense, And yeah, the law recognizes that not only are you putting your life another motorist at risk, but also the child has absolutely no control of who's driving them around. So yeah, it's just completely unacceptable.
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Speaker 1: That is shocking. Thank god she was pulled over and cops got her all right. There was another incident where a man was arrested attempting to break in last night.
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Speaker 19: Yes, this was in the CBD at a unit About quarter past eight last night, patrols were called to a unit complex on South Terrace and the CBD after reports that a man had broken a window at the rear of the unit and attempted to gain the entry. Luckily, a nearby witness spotted him, yelled out to the man and he then ran off from the scene onto Saint John's Lane. Then he returned to the front of the property. By that time police were at the scene. They spotted him, he was pointed out to them by the witness and they arrested him without further incidents. So he's a thirty year old man of no fixed address. He's been arrested in charged with attempted agravat as serious criminal trespass. He was refused police bal and he'll appear in court later today.
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Speaker 4: Rebecca so and you can't throw Becca Stokes from save Do you remember that first drive you have home with your newborn?
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Speaker 1: Oh, the slowest driver's lowest.
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Speaker 4: Drive and the little the any bump, you got three k's an hour. You think about that, and you think about how you're always how much more careful you are when you've got your child in the car with you, and you just think about someone who's enters that same scenario. Have you had all those same experiences and off their chops. It's just it's sad.
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Speaker 1: And Rebecca's point about you know, as an adult, if you know your friend's been drinking, you've got the choice of not getting in the car with them. I'm not sure on the car with you'll just get a move, get a taxi. A child has no choice. No, that's absolutely ridiculous.
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Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is five lay breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Six to seven. The rivalries keep coming in Stacey good zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five. We just had remarkable conclusion to the Argentina England World Cup semi Argentina overturned into one gold deficit late late late in the game. The winner came in extra time. It's a hell of a rivalries we talked about right off the top, but we're getting some terrific ones through from all walks of life.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I like this one. Angela says Sherbet and skyhooks back in the day.
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Speaker 4: That's great, Angela.
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Speaker 1: And she also says cats and dogs, Well, that's the ultimate the real animals, not the footy teams.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, the ultimate animal rivalry.
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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I don't know if you're a both person unless you're doctor Derek or a vet.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Families seem to choose. Oh I know, actually I know some that have both.
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Speaker 1: I have both.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're right, that's they're a rarity. Yeah, their rarity. I got an Oasis v. Blair of Blur text that was one of mine that I started off with this morning. I think during the nineties I was pro Oasis better. As I've got an older I like Blur more. I think the Scott and Modbri I agree one hundred percent. MJ and Lebron, I like you fall on the MJ side. Of that debate, and I think it's pretty clear. Thank you for that. 'll bet lots of people disagree with us keeping coming in eight double, two three double or zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five.
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Speaker 1: This one from will in Goodwood. We talk about it, obviously the biggest local rivalry. Crows and pool Yeshda. On my mate's Bucks show, when he was drunk enough, we thought we would try and slip a crow's shirt on him. Once he realized what he was wearing, he ripped it off and said, you could have just tied me up naked to a pole.
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Speaker 4: That's fantastic. All right, let's stalk petrol prices because we've covered a lot over the course of the last week, the on again, off again nature of not just the conflict, but the potential for tolling the strait of all moves, the impost on cargo and freight, the capacity of either side frankly to open up the straight to what was normal order of business six months ago. What is it all going to mean for the next six months when you go to phill up your car. David Leani is a New's international supply chain expert terrific explainer of these sorts of things. David, good morning to you. We had David Kosh on the program yesterday and from an economic point of view, I asked him whether the next six months are likely to be a rerun of the previous six months, given that this conflict feels live again. Do you think it will be from a petrol pump experience side of things.
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Speaker 20: Morning, Moll Stacey. No, it'll be different. Actually for a really important reason. The world is adjusting and becoming less dependent on the straight of the moods, and there's a couple of reasons for that. There's some pipeline reasons. Not only have they got the East West pipeline across Saudi Arabia in the little pipeline across the UAE that cuts out the straight of the moves, but they're actually building massive amounts of new pipelines through Jordan's, through Iraq, all over the place. So Middle East is going pipeline mad at the moment, and that's going to decrease further decreased that over the coming months and years. But already the world has adjusted. We used to send globally to send some oil into the Persian Gulf for processing and then exported back out of fuel. Don't do that anymore. That's decreased it. And then America and other places have increased their old production and taken on some of those supply contracts. So it was twenty percent of the world's oil through the strait of the moves, then it dropped sixteen, then twelves, then about nine percent at the moment. So its ability to impact our petrol prices has dropped as well. So we will not see the same spike in petrol prices that we saw in March and April and May because we decreased that dependence. So it means our petrol is going to be There'll be some increases which we can talk about, but yet nowhere near what it was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And does that mean will we continue using these pipelines into the future? So will the reliance on the straight continue as time goes on, or once this is all over and has died down, will people return to shipping through the strait?
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Speaker 20: I think a bit of both. Certainly, once the pipelines are in place. Pipelines are actually pretty fuel efficient and cost efficient once you build them. They are a big infrastructure investments, so that will permanently decrease the reliance on the Strait for oil. But there's some things that we need out through the Persian Golf that you can't put out through a pipeline. There's not just the fact that crude oil comes out. There's plastics and metals and all sorts of things that you just have to ship out. So we'll always rely on it a bit. And then the other choke point that hopefully won't become a problem is the other side of the Arabian Peninsula, the Golf of Aiden out through a little choke point between Yemen with the Hoofy rebels and the Somalian pirates on the other side. Not a fun play entry into the Red City and the Sewers Canal that's always been a problem, but that's under pretty strict control. So yeah, I think we've got a decrease reliance on a fairly permanent basis for oil and therefore not as bad a fuel price increase for us. The other thing is we've put a lot of effort into those bilateral relationships with South Korea to diesel with Singapore for petrol, with China for jet fuel, and then back up diesel relationships with Brunei and Malaysia and other places.
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Speaker 1: So pretty good.
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Speaker 4: That's a great explanation, David, and some cause for optimism which we like. I take this hour a cold morning in Adelaide. That's right, David, Lady the A and you international supply chain expert on why even if this conflict was to continue, things won't necessarily be as bad as they have been. In fact, the world and Australia have adapted seven o'clock five double News on the way back.
00:41:55
Speaker 3: In the moment, knockdown, build it with metro homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment.
00:42:04
Speaker 2: Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
00:42:06
Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Seven after seven. Good morning too, if you're joining us for the very first time on this Thursday, the sixteenth of July. It's actually significantly warmer right now than it was when we first came on air, which may be of surprise to you. If you've gone out to pick up the paper, or you've taken the rubber shower, you're outside for whatever reason, because it's four point one degrees. The apparent temperature is two point eight. The actual temperature was three degrees When we came on here at six o'clock this morning, it was cold and even colder and darker morning. If you're an English football fan who were leading one zip as you just turned five double a news in the eighty fourth minute before Argentina turn it around a match for the ages. It will be an Argentina Spain World Cup Final. I have received correspondence from Senior David Benberthy who has.
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Speaker 1: Confirmed Spain correspond He.
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Speaker 4: Said he's in position to be our Spanish corresponded Monday morning for the World Cup final. That will be must listen to radio because that man will be full Espanol by that point in time, and it'll be late at night there. The party will be raging. I'm looking forward to that chat. So we've just had confirmation that's going to be a lot of fun. We will talk footy this morning. Ran Fitzgerald is going to be on the program and we'll get his tips. We'll talk This is interesting. You noticed this stacy the city of Burnside. There was much ado about the Jim Bros That had turned up on the play equipment there. Well, the council actually came up with a clever solution and it's currently being trialed. We'll get a sense about that trial is going after eight thirty today and Josh Warrel yesterday charged with aggravated driving without due care and for not reporting within ninety minutes of being involved in a collision. So we knew of the incident. Yesterday the police charges became official, which allowed us to hear from some of the people affected, like the head of football Adam Kelly, who was speaking about what has done behind the scenes since this all will played.
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Speaker 7: Out not at this point the focus is on him cooperating with the initial police investigation and then now working through those legal presenting. You know, the club will need to go into more detail at the right time and Josh will need to also address the matter at the right time as well.
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Speaker 4: So he was asked by Rowing and Timmy g about well, has he spoken to the players about it yet? Sounds like that's not the case obviously from the football club's perspective, they're always about the well being of their players and how they're handling a very public situation. Here is Adam Kelly on that point.
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Speaker 7: He's certainly been shaken by what has happened over the past five days. There's no doubt in that.
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Speaker 8: I think we.
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Speaker 7: Could all understand that it would be a pretty frightening situation for him to have gone through.
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Speaker 1: For those who don't know a whole lot about the story, it was last Friday. Yes, he is now has now been charged after allegedly hitting a pedestrian. This is josh Uarell, the Crows player, reported for aggravator driving without due care and failing to present to police within ninety minutes after the collision. The pedestrians suffered injuries, so it seems like Josh Warrell took the pedestrian to hospital.
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Speaker 4: After That's the story that we've been told.
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Speaker 1: I've been told.
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Speaker 4: In fact, no one disputes that neither the person hit nor Josh Warrel for that manna.
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Speaker 1: So it happened in the morning, about thirty, they went to the hospital, and then we're told apparently at Josh Warrell presented to a police station on Friday afternoon, so I guess that was the delay in presenting to police.
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Speaker 4: There are two questions that people have raised about the charges, given the vision that they have seen or what they know about how the story unfolded, I think they're worth pursuing. You're going to try and get a legal expert on after seven thirty to t's both those out. So if you're Crows, generally Crows fans, people are protective of their teams and so forth, and we totally get that. One point is people have said, will hang on, Is it in the spirit of the charge not presented to a police station if you weren't able to make it having taken the victim to hospital. So we will pursuit. We'll get to the bottom of how the law assesses that and whether it was about what happened in the ninety minutes, as the law technically states, or what happened in the hours after that. We'll get to throw it at the bottom of that after seven thirty four. The other thing is people have now watched the vision. We're the vision on seven last night. The guy does get hit pretty hard, actually necessitating obviously the hospital's stay. But from the perspective of the vision, we've got no sense of it looks like on the vision the pedestrian walks out in front of the car. But early in the early reporting of this, there was a suggestion was there a red light? Did he think he was crossing at a crossing that's impossible to tell from the vision we've seen because it's so far off in the distance.
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Speaker 1: You can't see any lights, you can't see any pedestrian, that's right.
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Speaker 4: So we can't. We don't know the answer to any that will have to be sorted out throughout this process. But what we can get to the bottom was, well, what's the aggravating circumstance in the charge? What does driving without due care encompass at its most minor and its most serious version. I think we can get into all that after seven thirty today because that'll provide some clarity because there's a lot of people saying, hang on a second, I saw it this way, or others saying no, no, clearly this is what's happened. None of us know no. But what we can work out is what was that? What hints are we getting from the nature of the charges that have been leveled.
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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to about legal legal, will.
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Speaker 4: Get the legal legal on yesterday the Prime Minister. We spoke about this a little bit during the program yesterday that the Prime Minister will be making a big speech about AI in Australia, and I think the federal government have been a bit slow to this frankly, because everyone's seen it coming. It's already affecting industries, whether it's replacing people's jobs or just how they work. It's very much here and the PM says, well, we're going to have a plan how to deal with it, and it's coming over the course of the next year.
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Speaker 21: We are serious about attracting frontier AI investment to Australia because we want AI to support and create good jobs replace them.
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Speaker 16: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The other aspect of this is that there's obviously the big debate about data centers and whether or not we want them or need them, and their use of energy and water and how that's going to impact the electricity grid and water shortages that we have here in South Australia and Australia. The other part of it is copyright because people are using AI already and it's sourcing Australian material, but it's stealing that source material. It's entering books into AI, so authors are saying, no, that's my copyright, that's my content, You've got to pay for that. It's using news material and other outlets Google and different social media companies have to pay for that news material. Why does an AI have to pay for it, So I think the federal government's quite slow to this. But also on a state level, we already have a Minister for AI and there are some policies already in place and this is something that the state government has been onto for some time. So what do the new SED policies that were announced yesterday by the Prime Minister mean for the policies already in place here in South Australia.
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Speaker 4: It always feels like the danger of the rail gauge again, doesn't it. We have too many tiers of government in this country. And so we'll have a state AI plan and we're going to get a federal AI plan. Hopefully they're congruent and they make sense, but what if they don't. We'll probably end up getting the local government AI plan at some point in time as well. We just need one that works. Your point about stealing stuff is really interesting and I don't know if people realize the agree to which things are going to change and how quick they've already changed. Google earlier this year had a big landmark conference. We've spoken about it on air, where they said the nature of how we interact with the web is changing and it's about to fundamentally change. The website will be dead, folks. The idea of going to www. Dot the thing I'm after dot com is not going to happen anymore, because they've said people have already started to stop the Google pracy, the AI pracy. If you say, what's the cost of a new cherry in Adelaide, you don't necessarily need to go to the cherry dealership anymore. The AI pracy tells you Google want that to be the way you interact with everything, and the only way they can do that is by pinching stuff. Like you might say, I want some information on what was ultimately you're breaking it yesterday, Stacy. That story that can be compiled in an AI praicy without anyone knowing it was your work.
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Speaker 1: That came up with it, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Or the dealership that are selling the cars, work, or indeed anywhere it'll just end up being Google's AI assistant presents you this information. So we need to get heir of this. We need a laws and frankly, it needs to be something that's happens globally. It's going to be a really interesting discussion.
00:50:38
Speaker 1: And it can be wrong too.
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Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, this is just.
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Speaker 1: It earlier in the week. I actually put into chat GPT what was sam Neil's highest grossing movie over his career, and AI gave me the movies Chutchi and then it said, you are talking about sam Neil in the past tense, as if he is dead. That is not the case. And I actually said, you are wrong. Sam Neil has passed away. And then it came back and said, oh, you are right. I've just found a source for that.
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Speaker 4: You did one of your classic Stacy Lee interviews with chet GPT. That's excellent. Chat GPT's terrified it's never coming on again. Stacy hold a gay eye to account. I love it. The UK is interesting place politically at the moment as well. The kios Darma has delivered his final speech as the Prime minister.
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister know is when they take up the torch that the day will come when they have to pass it on. That day has come for me. All across the country do struggle to be seen or heard. You're the reason I came into politics. To my wife and children, I love you, goodbye.
00:51:45
Speaker 4: So that's Kiostami will be replaced by Andy Burnham, we expect in short order. That's the serious part of UK. You know what, This is all part of the miniu of UK politics at the moment. The other thing that's going on is this clapped in by election with Nigel Farage, the leader of the Form Party effectively the Pauline ants and there s quitting his seat in the midst of a scandal around where he received a large about five million pounds worth of bitcoin. Wasn't it was a huge sum and he said, look, if anything, I'm done with the corruption, I'll throw myself at the mercy of the voters and I'll quit my seat and I'll recontest. The major parties they said, we're not going to be part of this. So the only people running are Nigel Farage and the joke candidate Count Binface Count Finck, which for people that don't know how British politics works, because of it it's the nature of it where it's first past the post and you get results really quickly. On the election night they have this wonderful old tradition where all the candidates stand up on the stage together and they announced Stacy Lee will be representing the seat of Clacton and because of the visual spectacle of that, generally in a Prime Minister's seat. You'll have Big Bird running and Darth Vader and they all. The law is they all get to stand on the stage with to stand together the Prime Minister. Count Binface has been a legend of this for a long time as a comedian there and is now running well. If you look at the odds, it's something like a dollar seventy gambled responsibly. Nigel Farage four dollars ten, Count bin Face, they're the only two. And Nigel Farage is running around conducting a campaign at the moment against a man who walks around with a giant bin on his head. Anyway, British politicians are having some fun with it.
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Speaker 12: So does he not a dream that what the country deserves is a televised debate between Nigel Farage and Count bin Face.
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Speaker 4: Very funny, that's keevy Badnock, the leader of the Conservatives over there. Let's sak about a serious local issue quickly now, because this is outrageous, the degree to which this happens, and the fact that we're not frankly outraged enough about young people turning up to work, kids, kids doing the right thing you want. There's nothing more healthy than a young person getting a job, understanding the discipline of money and the discipline of going to work and all that goes with that. Well, what they shouldn't have to do with is drunken, drug addle, mentally ill people jumping counters and assaulting them. But that's what happens if you're wearing a fast food in the city. Machas have installed screens. Hungry Jacks have had recently, some of in the last forty eight hours attack. There was one at KFC just recently and the shop is unit of saying enoughs enough. Josh Peak is the secretary there. Josh, good morning. Your campaign to get screens in these fast food outlets, do you think it'll take hold?
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Speaker 9: Well, I certainly hope so.
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Speaker 10: I mean we've had a lot of success seeing finally something done at Macashinley Street, and we saw a string of footage over the last decade of the awful assaults in incidents stuff but that were occurring there. But we've put the screens up there. That's keeping those workers safe. But the problem just moves on. In terrible incident the other night at Hj's on Rundle Street, a young teamwork team teenage worker assaulted when some idiot jumped the counter and sold some food and assaulted them. I mean, it was really good to see the police move swiftly in arrest and continue to de having that individual, which I'm obviously pleased about. But we know these screens work. They keep workers safe behind them, and it's an ongoing problem in the CBDA. It's been a problem for years.
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Speaker 22: Let's fix it.
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Speaker 10: All of those employers should do the right thing and install them, and Safe Workers Day should be out there making sure they do it.
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Speaker 1: I've got to say, Josh, I hate the screens and I feel like they remind me of COVID. And you know, the screens came down in my doctor's surgery recently and I said to the receptions, oh, thank gosh. You know, I can see probably we could talk. But when something like this happens, it just reminds me about why the screens are there for safety purposes. And I just think, are we really at that point in our society where we need to have a screen between you know, someone trying to purchase a burger and the worker, And it seems, unfortunately maybe we are at that point.
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Speaker 10: I mean, like I completely agree, and you know, we've thought about this for some time. I mean, the problem is it seems impossible to be able to stop these you know, fucking say, drunken idiots going out and doing the wrong thing at the early hours of the morning, and these restaurants are choosing to open at those times in the CBD where those people are likely to be out and about, and the resulting consequences our members, young fast food workers continued at abuse and assaulted. And whilst in a perfect world we wouldn't want these screens here, I agree with you. It does raise a level of it becomes a little bit impersonal. The reality is it does make work much safer and we haven't seen the incidents of Huntry Jack's on High in the street or Macas on High in the streets since these screens were installed. We've got them at McDonald's West Lakes as well. They're incredibly effective because they're a physical barrier. People can't spit at workers through them, they can't throw products, they can't jump the counter. We saw that awful incident that macus kfc Heinly Street a number of years ago when an f POS machine was being thrown out of worker, which was horrible as well. I mean, there's just time and time again we see this, and there's a measure that can be quickly implemented that will immediately make workers safe, and employers of a legal responsibility to take every step to keep their workers safe. And if they're choosing to open at those hours, let's put the screens up and stop worrying about workers having to go to work and put up with this sort of idiotic behavior.
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Speaker 4: They might be a necessary evil, but they're a necessary evil in a world where their law frankly doesn't protect kids working in these places. Well enough, I wish the solution was no screens. But if you assault a kid working at a fast food.
00:57:34
Speaker 1: Restaurant that was where I've got my first job at Hungry Jack's, you go to jail.
00:57:38
Speaker 4: My friend, Yes, how about that? How about we don't have screens that make our entire life in personal because we wouldn't want to impinge on the liberties of those that are making the disturbance in the first place.
00:57:51
Speaker 1: And I think we all agree. The worst thing when you walk into a fast food outlet now are those big touch screens where you order your own food. YEP, I don't want to use one of those I'd like to talk to a person and tell it I don't want onion on my burden. Please, what if I press the wrong button in the interest.
00:58:04
Speaker 4: Of keeping the kids safe, build a screen? But my word, it would be just maybe it's an oversimplification. I appreciate it, but it wouldn't be nice just to say, you know what, if you just do the crime, you're not going to be in a position to assault another kid. You get one chance at that and you're done. Josh Peak. The secretary of the shop is union here in essay, let's check traffic. We'll come back with more very very shortly. Winter time snow and shine at the Adeline Entertainment Center Multistory Carpark this Saturday. Sea Horsepower Crew dot.
00:58:29
Speaker 3: Com knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment.
00:58:36
Speaker 2: Metro Homes they do it all for you.
00:58:39
Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five Double a.
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Speaker 4: Breakfast twenty seven after seven Alex Ward our Legal Legal after seven thirty. What can we learn about the Josh Warrel case from the charges laid by police yesterday? A lot of questions coming from the text lin I'm going to try and endeavor to get your questions answered on that front with the best to do it. Alex Ward after seven thirty was going to talk the end of OLGA bloom assistance for our commercial fish shows who are concerned. They're say the impact of the bloom does not end on July thirty one, So what does that mean for their business? We'll get into all that. Should we do some texts first those days?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this Texter agrees with you, John. Why don't we focus on the people who cause the problems? This is in relation to the assault on the hungry jacks, worker, mandatory sentencing, etc. Six weeks in jail might change behavior. I don't like the idea of seeing retail fortifications because we can't control these idiots exactly. Put them in jail.
00:59:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'd love to do it, though, John. So we live in a society where we'd rather put screens up around everyone else than put bars up around the people that are bashing kids in retail.
00:59:38
Speaker 1: Outlets and Mark and Freeling. I agree with you, Stacy. No onion on my burger either, No onion. I do do onions sometimes it depends on the burger.
00:59:48
Speaker 4: I think onions in necessity onions v. Burgers.
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Speaker 1: There are different onions at fast food outlets. The macers small chopped onion, don't like it, okay, the you the union, the ring, Yes, I'll do that, Yeah, okay, Hungry Jack's have the ring, Macas have the small chops. Don't like that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, my wife is not. I can't do Love's cooked onion. Will not do uncooked onion in any circuit. Well, sometimes in a salad is okay, but generally speaking as an issue with it, but the.
01:00:18
Speaker 1: Ratio has to be right in a salad. If there's too much onion, it's overpowered.
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Speaker 4: Becomes a little bit overpowering, all right, KEPN Coming into four zero eight thirteen ninety five, I think we underplayed in the first hour talking about rivalries Android v. Apple. I didn't realize We've got lots of texts about that as we're talking about rivalries in all forms following the England Argentina game, but between music and TV and movies and technology Android Android people are proudly Android, I've got to say.
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Speaker 1: And I think they can get in the bin.
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Speaker 4: Did you. I've never used one, so I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like android and especially when you send someone a text message and it's green, you think, oh you.
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Speaker 4: Want here, we go, here we go. Keep the coming in eight double two three double o Double O. Got a question about Josh Worrell in his case you can hear it answered on five to blow breakfast. Next, it's.
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Speaker 3: Not knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes. Stell one and move on, keep the other as an investment.
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Speaker 2: Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
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Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Well, that was cruel and we should make clear. Patrick Goldsmith, our producer is Scottish. We've got a long proud history of Scottish producers and one thing they've all been very different, but they have shared one thing in common, and that is enjoying England's demise and misery. And that's what it was This morning Football, as it turns out, is not coming home. Twenty one minutes to eight eight double two three double o double as a number. Still lots of texts coming through as well. On zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five. We'll get to some more of those shortly, Ran Fitzgerald ahead on the program and we'll get all your footy tips. We're going to hit the high note as well and send someone off to see the wonderful show Into the Woods starring Hugh sheer It, and that's going to happen a little bit later in the morning, and of course breaking it ates don't go anywhere stick around for that after eight o'clock. Let's start this half hour though on your questions folks to us with regard to the Josh Warral case. Dro charged with an aggravated count of driving without due care, also failing to present to police in the mandated time ninety minutes after an accident. Now people have raised I'll try and summarize it, and Alex Ward, our legal legal is listening to this a couple of queries having seen the vision again from one perspective, and we don't want to prejudice anything that's going to happen legally. We want to tease out what the legalities actually mean. What do we know from the charges. But people have asked questions about, well, if you're in a collision with someone, how is how does the law determine if you will walk down in front of or if you were negligent and you're driving, how does the law account for things like someone was injured, I took them to the hospital and therefore I didn't present in what the legislation says is a reasonable amount of time. That's sort of the theme I think, Stacy. I'm forgetting an angle.
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Speaker 1: And what could be aggravating and what could be what would an aggravating factor be?
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Speaker 4: Good one, Thank you, Alex Ward. Our legal legal is on the line, Alex, good morning.
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Speaker 8: Gray Well and Stacey, that's torture.
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Speaker 4: Maybe before we get to the questions that have been asked of the charges, what do the charges mean? What can we glean from them?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're good questions. And I had to say, I mean, dunlaw for forty and a half years that I didn't actually know of one of the one of the things that had come up as a result of it. So it's good for us to reflect because it affects us. All. So we've got driving, careless driving, driving without due care. So if you're in the car park and you bump into another car, that's careless drive. It's a pretty low threshold just to be sort of do something negligently and cause damage. Where it becomes serious is if it's aggravated, which is the charge here, and in the section of the road track attacked, it has various things that would make it an aggravated section. So just as a quick example, will it as to punch you in the face, that would be a sault. If was to punch you in a face and you're a police officer, that would be aggravated assault. So it's a worse version of the common offense. So aggravated careless driving is a worse version of it. And how that's determined and the court actually find if it's aggravated or not. But the very first thing is if the person is injured, if another person is injured. So pretty much if your car versus pedestrian, pretty much tick the pedestrian's going to.
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Speaker 4: Be injured, irrespective of how that happened automatically, you get an aggravated charge.
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Speaker 8: Well, yes, but you still have to be guilty of careless driving. Because I'm driving down the road and somebody just run down in front of me, there's nothing I can do whatsoever. Then I shouldn't be guilty of careless driving because I haven't done anything wrong. But if I'm driving down the road and the traffic light for the pedestrian crossing is read for me, and I drive through it because I missed it and I hit a child walking to school. Clearly that's an aggravated offense, so it's got to be my fault to begin with. Then is it a worse version of me just bumping somebody in a car park? So yeah, if a pedestrians hit, that would pretty much put it into the fact that the person will will have to be injured. Other things are like if you're drink driving, you're in a stolen car, you're fleeing the police or something like that, or so the things would make it worse, turn it into aggravation. The importance about aggravator is that it means you get a higher penalty, So that's what the problem is. So aggravated careless driving is an accident penalty of twelve months imprisonment is possible. Other penalties are disqualification of the last. So that's a pretty easy concept to deal with. I would have thought. The other one is reporting the accident to the police. As I said, I'm sare. I've looked up and there is if you have an accident and in certain circumstances, and one of them is someone is injured, you've got to report to the police within ninety minutes. And the reason for that, putting it bluntly, is so they can then give you a breath test or a drug test, because my memory is that they have drug tests have to be done. Breath test within two hours of the event, So if you turn up three hours, bad luck.
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Speaker 4: Guys.
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Speaker 8: You know, sorry, I've just got here now because I'm busy. So you have to actually take yourselves to the police within ninety minutes of an accident where it's a more serious thing. And again, if a person's injured, that's a reason for you to go and reported to the police.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense, So it does.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a scenario though, Alex. The court has discretion, though, don't they in scenario where you say we'll hang on The reason I didn't present was because I went to hospital with someone. That is imagine there's an opportunity for a magistrate to say, well, okay, do I think that's reasonable or not?
01:07:39
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that is. It's actually it's quite a well written bit of legislation. So the questions that the you guys have come up with and that the listeners have written in with are entirely appropriate and that's all in the legislation. So oh, there's a good reason. I couldn't think of the better reason that I was at the scene performing CPR and it went for three hours, yeah, Or the accident happened on the other side of Iron Knob Out on the way across the perth and there is no police. Yeah, so that's that's the reasonableness comes into it there. So the match straight and weigh that up and that's in the section.
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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so still to play out with this.
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Speaker 8: There is just an interesting thing, Stace. It's a there's sort of different versions of stop the vehicle, render, assistance report to the police are all in Section one, but the penalty is imprisonment for five years. So that's the maximum. Again, so it's regarded as very serious and I think the five years is more for stop and render as system, but there it is. That's what the penalty is. So that's a good thing for people to be aware of because it's quite a significant penalty.
01:08:54
Speaker 4: I reckon that has entirely answered the queries that our listeners had. Alex. We appreciate your time as always, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 8: Oh worries alex Ward.
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Speaker 4: Our five double a breakfast, legal eagle can five three more if you like, zero four eight zero, wait thirteen ninety five. But that generally covered the majority we got after. We're still talking about it at seven o'clock this morning. A few queries about where Matt Abraham is this morning and the biggest Louver well something.
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Speaker 1: I said, no, no, no, he doesn't want to come on with me.
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Speaker 4: Everyone in politics can breathe a sigh of relief. There will be no biggest Lever this week. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing group design, manufacturing, and swed locally by the wonderful people at Louver House. Part of Matt is crook. He said us a text last night saying he was feeling absolutely awful and he's got no voice and he's coughing up a lung. And we said that Matt, you look after yourself and we'll catch up with you next week.
01:09:42
Speaker 1: See you next week, we will.
01:09:43
Speaker 4: So we're wishing Matt all the best this morning, but he does not sound like he's in a world way at the moment.
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Speaker 1: It's going around.
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Speaker 4: It is that time of year, isn't it. Yeah, all right, let's check traffic. We did time snow and shine at the entertainment center multi story car back. It's on this Saturday. See Horsepower crew dot com.
01:10:00
Speaker 3: Down bill two with metro homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment.
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Speaker 2: Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
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Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Ten minutes to wait. Ryan Fitzgerald not too far away. Also breaking in eight after eight o'clock. Make sure you hang around for that. It is the sixteenth of July, which means we are a fortnight away from the expiration of assistance for commercial fishes as it pertains to the algill bloom are Their concern is that the impacts of the bloom haven't dissipated. There are still not the same amount of fish that there were in gulfsat vincent as that were previously. The returns on commercial fishing have not returned to what they were, so what do they do in the absence of government assistance. One of those is Michael Pennington, who's a fisherman based in Ardross and Michael, good morning to.
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Speaker 22: You morning mate.
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Speaker 7: How are you Yeah, Well.
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Speaker 4: More importantly, how are you Michael, what will the expiration of that assistance mean for you in your operation?
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Speaker 22: Well, yeah, to be honest, the way the support packages were set up based on a quarter by a quarter situation, so for most people in a position like myself or worse off, our support actually finished in January, so we haven't had support for a long time. So most of our businesses from the Gulf Saint Vincent and further south, we're pushing fourteen months through to sixteen seventeen months of an alga bloom that our businesses haven't been able to catch any fish. But there's only been nine months support, so that ran out a long time ago for us.
01:11:43
Speaker 1: And so how have you been, I guess, keeping up without the support and without the income that you'd usually have.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's not good.
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Speaker 22: And that's why we're getting to this point that we're starting to ask a lot more questions and what's going to go on and how things are going to move forward, and we're just starting to get a few answers back that oh no, we're not doing that anymore and we can't do this anymore. And it's like, well, hang on a minute, you guys. The government sat on their hands and did did nothing and said, oh, the wind will get rid of it, and the cold weather will get rid of it, and the hot weather will get rid of it. And they've done nothing for all these months, and now we're still in the same situation. Like crenial levels off the Metropolitan Coast spiked last week. Now we've got all these dead crabs, so we've still got all these ongoing problems. Yet now they think that there's just no support for the industry. So it's pretty tough.
01:12:43
Speaker 1: And we were saying a couple of days ago, will when all the crabs washed up, that it's hard to know how long the effects of the algal bloom will last. There's not a whole lot that we do know about this alga bloom. We're kind of learning as we go. So although maybe there are not as many and you know, toxins detected off the Metro coastline, at the moment, we don't know what's actually happening underwater and how it's impacting the sea life. And I guess are you still seeing that, Michael when you go out, are you trying to, you know, find fish and there's still no fish or are you noticing different kinds. What are you seeing when you're out there on the waters.
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Speaker 22: So we get we get a few days a quarter, it's four days a quarter to do some work for starting, so we get get to chase certain species in certain areas, so those guys can get some science. And there's I'm chasing calamari at the moment. Doing those days, and you work in six or seven hours for the day, covering forty and fifty kilometers of coastline and getting anywhere from seven to twenty klamari per day and bucket. It's good signs that something's there, because only three months ago we were doing these same days and not catching any kalamari at all. So it's good signs that something is something is there. But that is so far off of being a sustainable species, let alone a fishery. Is Yeah, it's hard to comprehend how long it's going to be. And then I said yesterday the News, I honestly believe it'll be ten years and more before we could have a commercial fishery in Gulf Saint Vincent and Kangaro Island fishery.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope it's not that long.
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Speaker 22: Well, the biomasses what we're seeing from there's over seventy fishermen doing science facardy in that area. And for what we're seeing with the widing, the garfish and the kalamari, it's very bad. It's people are doing still doing days and not catching fish. We've got net fishermen up the top of the Gulf that are doing shots for certain species and they're catching three and four fish combined species in a net.
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Speaker 8: That's it.
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Speaker 22: That's the only fish that they can get for research purposes.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. That's quite a picture of that, Michael. Thank you. Michael Pennington, a fisherman based in Ardross And about I mean, you can't obviously extend support indefinitely, but I'm not sure what the fishermen are meant to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 4: And your point's the best one, because we just don't know. We don't know the answers to any of these questions. I'd love to hear from other FIS shows. If you're listening about what you're seeing out in the waters at the moment, the replenishment or otherwise a fish species doesn't sound like it. Eight double two three double oak double hope. Should we give away some tickets?
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Speaker 16: Yes?
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Speaker 1: And I looked it up. Well, I was thinking, what are the actual words, because it just sounds Yeah, it's a good, good question in a day, in a day.
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Speaker 4: Thank thank you for doing that. That's excellent. I've always wondered I just sort of would scream it at the top of my lung, just noise. We've got might enough, We've got aha fans or people that are just hearing the good word about into the Into the Woods. But lots of people are calling in for this at the moment. Eight double two three double o double o, So we can probably be a little bit more judicious.
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Speaker 1: With I still maintain I don't actually think it's that hard, because I reckon for a lot of these. You just have to scream it a bit.
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Speaker 4: If you look, let's let's boil this down. If you make a bit of a fool of yourself, you're probably winning the tickets. Angela in Richmond, good morning, good morning. Are you a singer? Angelo?
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Speaker 15: I am for myself, not for any other people, but yes, I love music.
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Speaker 4: Excellent. Do you like aha? And this song?
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Speaker 23: I don't know Aha?
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Speaker 4: Okay, well i'll play you'll know the song. Do you need to hear the full clip again?
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Speaker 6: Probably I didn't hear it before.
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Speaker 4: All, Right, here we go. You ever listen to this? And what was the lyric?
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Speaker 1: Stacy in a day doing the note?
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you're ready to go. There we go. Absolutely, suberb that was getting the high note. Magnificent work. You hit the no and you stayed with the no. Angela, that was magnificent. You need to share your gift.
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Speaker 1: You get out of the shower and get into a theater. Angela, that was great.
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Speaker 8: I just got out of the shower, so maybe I need to.
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Speaker 15: Find the stage.
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01:18:52
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Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacy Lee pus is five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Seven after eight. Not a cloud the sky as we look out for the east towards the hills. It looks beautiful. It's been cooled, probably explains why it was so cooled this morning. The sun streaming through the window. It's actually it's beautiful. It is a beautiful winterry Adelaide morning. On this Thursday, the sixteenth of July. We're going to be talking forty it's real footy weather at the moment. Ryan Fitzgerald very shortly we'll get his tips and his thoughts on the big stories going through the world of football. And then after eight thirty I'm really intrigued by this. The CEO of the City of Burnside is going to come on the show. And I know you did a lot of work on this in afternoons as well. We spoke about it on breakfast. This troop I guess would be the term for it. Of guys that you turned up to a playground to do fitness work and a few it was a bit bracing for people with parents with kids there and they made the pot, well, we're not we're not here to intimidate or disturb anyone, but we want to do it publicly and we're trying to do a good thing. Well, it seems like it might be one of those scenarios wherever it actually came together and come up with a really mature answer to this. There's a trial on going at the moment. How's it all happening. We'll find out after thirty today. Let's go breaking eight first, though, because this is fascinating.
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Speaker 1: Gender quotas in the Liberal Party is something that's been discussed a lot over the years and it always comes with proponents and opponents on either side of it. There has now been, or there will be, another review into the Liberal Party and in anticipation of that review, a bit of a discussion paper has been released to paint the picture of the party and how it represents or doesn't represent modern Australia at the moment, and gender quotas have been brought up as an option as to a way of better representing modern Australia right now, we've known over the years that women in particular have dropped off in support of the party, as well as multicultural communities across the country. Another option is cutting membership fees, according to this discussion paper it's been released ahead of this review. As I say, and I thought we should talk to South Australian Senator and Rustin, she's the Shadow Minister for Health. Good morning to you, Senator.
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Speaker 11: Good morning Stathy.
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Speaker 1: What do you think of gender quotas, because I know this is something we've had conversations over the years on and your view has changed over the years.
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Speaker 11: Look, I have always been somebody who hasn't been a great supporter of gender quotas or quotas in any way, because I've always believed that you should choose people on merit. But I think we have to look at where we are as a party at the moment, with very very low numbers of female representation, particularly in our lower houses, both in South Australia and here in Canberra, and so the things that we've been doing to try and get that diversity, particularly getting female members of Parliament elected hasn't been working, So congratulate James McGrath and the team who's put this paper out to have a look and see whether maybe the time hasn't come to have a look and see if there are other ways that we do need to implement, even if it's only temporarily, to try and resolve this challenge that we continue to seem to have, and that is our inability to be able to get women elected to our lower houses in our parliaments.
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Speaker 1: Is it an issue of women not joining the Liberal Party and therefore having a lack of women who want to run for the Liberal Party? I guess is it an issue that there aren't enough women that want to run, or are there women that want to run and then the party just doesn't tend to support them.
01:22:39
Speaker 11: Look, I think if you have a look at the last couple of elections, we've had some incredible female candidates, both in at the state election and federally, but unfortunately they didn't get elected. Part of that, obviously has been quite a distinct change in the political landscape in relation to the support of the Liberal Party of the last four or five years. But I also think that we've got to be really concentrated on making sure that we have strong women candidates that are running in safest seats, seats that are more likely that the Liberal Party will win. So I think there's a number of factors that need to be looked at, and that's why I think this review couldn't be more timely in its arrival.
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Speaker 4: Do you I'm just trying to think of the profile of the average longtime Liberal voter that's now a one nation voter. Do you think that's the kind of person that will be tempted back to the party with something like a gender quota, because I find that hard to believe.
01:23:35
Speaker 22: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Look, I think what we have to understand is we have to be encouraging people in our party that share our views, because I mean, the one underpinning factor in terms of people who we want to represent the Liberal Party. They have to share those Men'sian views of reward for effort and the individual that proud of the individual, and smaller government, et cetera, et cetera, all of those really underpinning value. So that must always come first. But we also need to have candidates who reflect what the electorate wants to vote for. And I think one of the things that we do need to return to. Is that broad church that John Howard talked about, the broad spectrum of people who do believe in that liberal philosophy and make sure that we look at the electorate and we choose the people to run as our candidates and an electrics that that electric wants to vote for. I think it's as simple as that you have in.
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Speaker 1: The Liberal Party in South Australia. You know, we've been reporting on it for years now, the I guess pentecostal sign up of voters and Alexandik now running against Nicole Flint, who you know, they were formerly a faction of their own together and now running against each other for the leadership of the State Party in South Australia. Do you think that with the State Party heading that way, heading more to the right as it has been for a number of years now, that the the party will support.
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Speaker 11: This well, I mean, I think the party should be up to having a discussion because you know, I mean, it's no speecret what's happened to the party over the last few years in terms of the reduced representation and our failuite successive elections both in South Australia and federally, but we have to address the issues that are underpinning that. Part of that is making sure that we've got a party that it's infrastructure that supports the election of our members of Parliament is fit for purpose. And I think that's exactly what this paper seeks to do. And I don't want to sort of pre en what may come out of this review. I mean, the stupidest thing we can do is start a review and rule things in and rule things out. I think the whole purpose of a review is to have an open and fraank discussion, not be afraid to canvas all ideas, and then at the end of the day, with the input of many people, hopefully we were able to come up with a position that makes the recommendation for the necessary changes which we should implement to make the changes that are needed to so you has got a party that Australians and South Australians want to vote for.
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Speaker 4: I'm so intrigued, Senator by the element of this that's about cutting membership fees, because this getting people to be part of a membership organization is not just a Liberal Party problem, It's an Australia wide problem. The every organization that cries membership, crying out for people, and we can have add more people, but they just don't seem to be as willing to sign up to become members of just about anything. Do you think there's scope for a radical rethink of how the party interacts with people beyond the parliamentary team, beyond just trying to make it more accessible financially.
01:26:41
Speaker 11: Well, absolutely, and I think that we do need to have a look at what is it that will actually make somebody who's curious about the Liberal Party, curious about politics, want to actually become more involved, What will make them walk through that threshold door to become a member of our party, In particularly with younger people, know there's so many drains on their finances and you know the cost of living pressures that are affecting everybody. People are thinking about what they're spending their money on, and so to make sure that you know that the price of actually becoming a member is not prohibitive from people wanted to be involved, I think. But I think you're right there are broader issues that we need to look at as to what would make it attractive to particularly younger people, because we do need to encourage more younger membership, what would make it attractive for them to actually make that decision to join up to our party. And so I accept this is only a starting point, but I think it's a really valuable document for that starting point.
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Speaker 1: Okay, And just while we have you, Senator. At the National Press Club the other day, the Inspector General of Aged Care was giving an address. What did they have to say about the Federal government's aged care reforms which were announced some time ago.
01:27:53
Speaker 11: Well, it it was actually a pretty damning address from the inspects General of Age Care, who basically said that it was the intent of the reforms were admirable and sound, the implementation of these reforms is basically causing harm to older Australians and she cited a number of examples, the fact that over two hundred thousand people as we sit here today are either waiting to be assessed or waiting to get the package because they've been assessed. As meeting. These are older Australians that are receiving no care and yet the government themselves have assessed their needing care. She talked about the fact that they've been such an incredible increase in the number of people seeking financial hardship provisions. She also talked about the cost inflation that had been inflicted on the age care sector needs an incredible example of saying that a doctor had prescribed a fifty dollars pair of crutches for an older person, which they could have got that day to help them system with my ability and try and avoid their risk of falls. Because of the way the Age Care Act works, they were made to wait three months, had to go through a full assessment from an occupation of therapist. When they eventually got the crutches, they cost Pateen hundred dollars. These are the kinds of things she raised.
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Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the thing about these systems when we talk about aged care, when we talk about ndies, this is the bureaucracy that gets in the way you can go to a pharmacy and get crunches. That's ridiculous, Senator, Thanks for your time. We have to leave it there, but we appreciate your time. This morning.
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Speaker 4: Extraordinary. I've got a good text from m mel Mel here who says, I find funny how all media seems to think it's just the long term liberal voters who've moved to one dation. I've been a lifelong Greens and Labor voter, and I support one nation. Many other hard working ordinary Australians are doing this too. That's a totally legitimate text, mel It's a good point to make in the context of that conversation. Obviously, what we know, what the data at least is telling us, is there's a huge obviously a huge drain of long time conservative liberals, but not exclusively. And that's an entirely a point worth making.
01:29:54
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you asked the question about reducing membership fees to the party. I mean, I love a sale, but I'm not sure any by one get one free or fifty percent of.
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Speaker 4: Which is not how people behave anymore. And the Labour Party is an advantage because the union model is more entrenched in workplaces and it's just naturally advantageous in that front. But if you're just trying to be a membership organization in twenty twenty six and that's how you interact with people, good luck. It's just not what people are doing anymore.
01:30:22
Speaker 1: To your point yesterday, it feels like there's a subscription for everything.
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Speaker 4: We were over a subscribe.
01:30:26
Speaker 1: One's rethinking them.
01:30:28
Speaker 4: We are oversubscribed John says Liberal membership in Essays eighty eight dollars. The L and P Queensland is one hundred and eighty dollars and they have heaps of members. It's the factional infighting here that's causing the issue, not the price of membership. John, that's great intel. Thank you. Nineteen after eight Ryan Fitzgerald and just a moment we'll talk to him about the Crows. Chance is huge game Friday night against the Swans and do we need a Gold Coast Do we need a Gold Coast team. I'm not even sure the people who play for the Gold Coast think we need a Gold Coast team. We'll get into that in just a moment. We're to Times Snow and Shine at the entertainments and a multi story car park this Saturday. Sea Horsepower Crew.
01:31:02
Speaker 3: Dot Com knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment.
01:31:09
Speaker 2: Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
01:31:11
Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is five Double a Breakfast.
01:31:20
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald Trugy's left foot out of.
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Speaker 4: The bounce on five Double A Breakfast. Walco the center of SA's biggest cover up with their incredibly good looking walco mesh pool cover of Ryan Fitzgerald.
01:31:34
Speaker 16: Good morning do you sweet sweet goodness, Stacy, thank you very much for having me.
01:31:39
Speaker 4: Guys, it's good to have you on fits. You want to start here Crows Gold Coast. Last week you look at the teams on paper and you think this is going to be quite a test. You got Row and Anderson, King and Petrarca and Miller. Let you go through it. And then every block you've never heard of the place where the Gold Coast you find out was a top ten pick. And then they serve up what they served up? Are wee to point we need to have a series conversation about whether we need a Gold Coast side because it seems to be where professional sporting teams go to die, doesn't it.
01:32:05
Speaker 16: Fitzy Well, I feel like Damian Harwick's lost them like it's and you know what I thought about this the other day. Damian Harwick has come from Richmond where he toughened that Richmond side up and they ended up winning three premierships. He has so he's got the recipe there at the Gold Coast to win a premiership. That list is unbelievable. So he rocks up and he says, okay, I can get you to a premiership. I've done it before. Who's with me? And they go, yeah, we're all in. And then all of a sudden, I feel like it's just got too hard for some of these players and now they're jumped off and it's like it is like a virus that has gone through the team and now you know, like my god, Matt Andrew's sharing a toilet with his fellow teammates and they've completely jumped off.
01:32:56
Speaker 4: It's not the kind of bonding they need, really, is it.
01:32:59
Speaker 16: No, it is not. So I actually feel for Damien Harvick now because this season's over for him. Is he going to actually get them on board? And then you've got You've got Ben Kings leaving the club as Bailey Humphreys wants to leave the club, so I don't know what he's going to do.
01:33:20
Speaker 4: It just seems like a disaster there at the moment. The Crows were their tormental last weekend. This this Friday night. I don't know how the times we've said this this season fitsy but because we've all been sort of this proven position as Crows supporters after the finals flayed out last year and every time they play a big side with a big a good midfield, it feels like a it feels like a referendum on the whole next year. How you feeling about Friday Night and the Fitzgerald Cup? Misses me not to mention. Are you gonna be on the ground presenting the award?
01:33:51
Speaker 16: It's Stacey, it's a It's a really really big night in Sydney. No one remembers who I am, unfortunately, but.
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Speaker 22: Do you know what.
01:34:02
Speaker 16: We do the cauldron of the SCG and when that supporter base is up and going, it's really really hard. They've got some big guns that are playing good footy obviously Heeni and Chad Warner and Errold Gordon's back. This is going to be a really really tough game for the Crows. But will I tell you if we can beat Sydney at the SCG tomorrow night, top four here we come, anything can happen. Anything can happen. And we know finishing top last year and then bowing out in two finals, I actually, do you know what, I would actually really look forward to playing Freeman, Awaver and Freemantle because all the pressure will be on them finishing top and them going all the way to the Grand Finals. So it's going to be a huge game to morrow.
01:34:51
Speaker 4: And I I still think they should project your head onto the Sydney Opera House for this one. But the spot of my emails yet.
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Speaker 16: Do you know we get out a radio show from the Harbor Bridge once?
01:35:05
Speaker 4: Yeah?
01:35:06
Speaker 16: Well, and do you know that everything that you take up onto the harbor Bridge, Stacey, you have to have it has to be chained to you because if you drop it, really yes, so microphones, everything had to be chained to us that if we drop something that it doesn't fall down on the on the traffic that's going across the Harbor Bridge.
01:35:27
Speaker 4: That is fantastic. You mentioned Freeo and the challenge you're playing them are going to be doing this weekend without I don't know that they're four best players at very least as a world a debutante who's going to be playing. It'll be all hands on deck. Although Josh Carsides don't get smashed, do they.
01:35:43
Speaker 16: No, No, they don't. They will bring an effort. But yeah, oh my gosh, if there was ever a time that you wanted to play port Adelaide, it's this week without Butters Georgi Art's and Jason Horn Francis my gosh, like that that that they are. I don't know what's going to happen there, but yeah, it could. It could get brutal that game.
01:36:04
Speaker 1: So can I take that as a Frio tip, Fitzy.
01:36:08
Speaker 16: Yeah, Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go for Freo on this one. That's an obvious one. But yeah, like I just wish that would have frigging happened before the showdown.
01:36:24
Speaker 1: All right, let's do the rest of the round. Geelong and Saints. Who are you tipping?
01:36:29
Speaker 16: This is going to be a really really good game. Geelong are decimated by injury, so oh, it's going to be really close. Chris Scott is a great coach. I'm going to go and upset everybody. If you need to get back on your tip, You're going to get some killed at the beat Geelong.
01:36:45
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Crows and Sydney.
01:36:49
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go Sydney, says crows Head says Sydney. So I'm going to go with Sydney this.
01:36:55
Speaker 1: Morning, okay, And you've gone Frio against Port North Melbourne and Melbourne.
01:37:00
Speaker 16: Melbourne will win that convincingly.
01:37:02
Speaker 1: O Collingwood and Carlton at the MCG.
01:37:07
Speaker 16: This is going to be a corky game as well, but I think Carlton have had their run. Now. Last week we saw that we saw more of the Carlton team, so I think Colin would win that one.
01:37:18
Speaker 1: West Coast and Brisbane at up the Stadium.
01:37:21
Speaker 16: Yeah, lines easily there Stus.
01:37:24
Speaker 1: And on Sunday we've got Richmond and Hawthorne.
01:37:28
Speaker 16: Hawthorne will beat the Tigers.
01:37:30
Speaker 1: Sons and Western Bulldogs.
01:37:33
Speaker 16: I'm going to go the Western Bulldogs to beat the Gold Coast Sons. That'll be eight is it eight in a row or nine in a row they've lost. That's just out of control, okay.
01:37:43
Speaker 1: And then final match of the round Essendon and the Giants.
01:37:47
Speaker 16: Yeah, Giants will beat the Bombers quite convincingly.
01:37:50
Speaker 4: Too good. I enjoy the Fitzgerald Cup. No worries.
01:37:54
Speaker 16: Have a lovely weekend.
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Speaker 10: Guys.
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Speaker 4: Well go the center's biggest cover up with They're incredibly good looking Walco.
01:37:59
Speaker 3: Meshpoolk knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes they do it all for you.
01:38:10
Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee, this is five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 4: Twenty one minutes the night. Few inquiries about wherett Abraham was this morning. Well, unfortunately Matt is crook. He's on any sick bed. He wishes he was here. We got a text fro him last night. He couldn't communicate, his voices gone and he's coughing up along in his own words. So he will be back on deck next Thursday morning. In case you missed Matt. We always do looking forward to finding out the be might have to get a double shot of Biggest Lovers next week.
01:38:40
Speaker 1: I can't wait for my first experience with the Biggest Lover.
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Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun and it's all very mysterious. No one knows if it's a good a bad thing. He just is. This is I'm intrigued to see how this trial has been going. Stacey. I know you did a lot of work on this story in afternoons with regard to the well and the terminology is kind of important. It's a playground slash gym equipment in the city of Burnside area that was being used by a group of young blokes to do workouts.
01:39:06
Speaker 1: Yep.
01:39:07
Speaker 4: Some parents with kids were saying well, hang on, I'm here to take my three year oldier. What they are we doing? They were saying, it's gym equipment, so we aren't abusing anyone. We're not doing anything wrong, are we. Well they came to something of a solution, didn't they, And you noticed this, yeah.
01:39:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you might remember. And there seemed to be two sides to this camp because it felt like from what we heard from parents of the kids they were there at this playground. It's at Glen's Side. It's on the corner of green Hill Road and is it Fullerton Road there? I always forget because that road changes name, but Fullerton Road and green Hill Road basically. And it's a huge park. Anyone in the area knows that kids love it. It's massive. And an exercise group of young guys came in one day on the weekend and it felt like to the parents of the kids, they took over the playground and the gym equipment, and they felt like that was unfair. The kids who were part of the exit size group, We'll say, well, we're just doing the right thing. We're a group of guys getting together on a weekend exercising. Isn't that what you want you don't want us out there doing other things, and so there was this argie bargie. The council got involved and the council said, look, we want this group to be able to exercise here. We're going to try and come to an agreement. Well, now a sign has been posted at the equipment saying that the Council is advising a three month trial permit has been granted for an organized community group fitness group to informally use the gym a twenty five person maximum at set times. So we thought, well is this that said fitness group. Julia Grant is the CEO of Burnside Council and joins you now, good morning.
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Speaker 23: Julia, Good morning Stacey.
01:40:44
Speaker 1: Is this the two parties? Is it with this fitness group?
01:40:47
Speaker 23: Yes, yes, it is so yeah. Obviously this will started in April and so where we've heard through the media and also through community members contacting council about some concerns about use of the area and we want everyone to be able to join our public spaces. So we reached out and we have been talking with the group and we've come up with this fold period for three months from June to September, and there's some conditions around around the use and hopefully we just get a balanced outcome that everyone feels comfortable and safe to use the outdoor area.
01:41:32
Speaker 1: Okay, so the organized fitness group could come and use the gym equipment with what conditions.
01:41:40
Speaker 23: So there's a time frame between quarter past ten and quarter past twelve, and there's numbers are sort of capped at twenty five. There are some conditions around noise, parking, just taking care of council assets and and just and also not complete exclusive use. So it's the equipment is still open to other people to use. So it's providing a bit of an informal framework and we're trialing it for three months and at the end of that three months, we'll see how it's gone and if everyone if it's working well, then we'll we'll continue with it.
01:42:22
Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds like a terrific solution. Frankly, was were they easy to deal with, Julia or did they require some cajoling around timings and so forth.
01:42:32
Speaker 23: No, I think I think quite open and easy to deal with. I think from the beginning, when anything gets into the media and people feel sort of outraged or concerned or emotional about something that's happening in their neighborhood, whether you're the parent of the young people, your young children, and whether you're you know, the parents of these young men who some of them are young and their teens. You feel like somehow something's been taken away from you, when you feel like you need to be a bit defensive about that and sort of a certain that everyone wants to assert their rights. So I think once once we got over the initial sort of reaction to how they were being portrayed, then it was a case of how do we work together and come up with a solution. I mean, this group move goes all over the adelaide as well. It's not just in Glen's side. They have been organized exercise fitness group that go right right across the city and exercise together on a Sunday.
01:43:34
Speaker 1: Morning, and so there are other groups, other fitness groups that do it as well. Is it just use for this particular fitness group or other groups listening? Can they rock up at that time or should they get in touch with counsel.
01:43:47
Speaker 23: Well, I think they should get in touch with counsel, otherwise we might have several groups turning up at the same time frame trying to use the same equipment, so there's plenty of times, and there are other other fitness equipment across the city at Burnside that are available. So I just encouraged anyone to just get in touch with us if they wish to look at a permit and using having use of some of our public reserves and playground and exercise equipment.
01:44:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually a great solution. But it feels like it's written really well handled by the council. Julia Grant from the City of Burnside. Josh just made that point as well, Josh, this sounds like one of the most sensible things a local council has ever done. And I confess with this story. First, br I go to playgrounds a lot of a three year old daughter, and I thought I was seeing the pictures, I went, oh, come on, I'd feel like, what do you like to do with hanging around a playground with little kids?
01:44:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Then the more I thought about it and I heard them talk about it from their perspective, I thought, what was I like when I was a teenager? How aware would have I been of parents and kids? And how vulnerable you feel when you've got a young person, and how protective you feel I wouldn't have been no, I would have only cared about what I was doing. And this feels like the council is broken. What is an ideal? Maybe people will disagree, let us know eight double two three double o double or texas on zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five. But I think feel like they've broken a perfect solution. Give them time to me and if you've got to sign up, you might turn up with the child and go, oh, I might go to the other playground today exactly if you're feeling.
01:45:17
Speaker 1: Intimidated or you know, we've got half an hour until this group's going to come, Yes, make have some time here and go and have picnic later. Whatever it is.
01:45:24
Speaker 4: A few people disagree, Michael says, councils and stall gym equipment. They don't know how to deal with the people they use the equipment. And Andrew says, can you ask why they built adult fit this equipment right next to children's playgrounds? It does seem to be a commonplace thing that does happen there.
01:45:39
Speaker 1: Makes sense because there's limited green space these days, as we know, with developments going up everywhere. So where are you going to put the gym equipment? And also if you want to play on the gym equipment, kids also play on it. As I'm doing that, you know, limbo you under the bar and it's gym equipment can turn into kids play equipment can turn into kids play equipment.
01:46:01
Speaker 4: The bat that the enemy to all this is that the way put something in that was really popular. Everyone wants to be part of it.
01:46:08
Speaker 1: Could part. I don't know if you've but love it.
01:46:11
Speaker 4: No, I'm going to do it. Janet says, why don't they just go to the gym like most of us? Gips are expensive, so should you're a young person.
01:46:19
Speaker 1: And there is free gym equipment around in different parks, and so, you know, make the most of it. Get our rates go towards it. So I'm happy when I see someone working out on the free gym equipment at my local park.
01:46:31
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Kay says, shouldn't they use it later in the afternoon morning seems like the best time for mums with little kids. Yeah, Well, we'll love to get feedback from parents in the area. Are the timing is good or bad? But most people seem to think it's pretty good.
01:46:42
Speaker 1: I think it changes. I was at a local park yesterday afternoon with Molly so afternoon morning. Yeah, depends on when your kid naps, how old they are, if they nap, when they want to get.
01:46:51
Speaker 4: When they want to go to them, when you want.
01:46:52
Speaker 1: To get out of the house and try get a different environment.
01:46:54
Speaker 4: My daughter all say things like I want to go to the green playground and I think we've only been to seven hundred playgrounds and I can't recall which car. Then you drive one not this one. Do let's check traffic. We're time snow and shine at the adelad Todavid Cente multi story carpark this Saturday a Sea Horsepower Crew dot.
01:47:10
Speaker 3: Com knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment.
01:47:17
Speaker 2: Metro Homes. They do it all for you.
01:47:19
Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is five double a breakfast Reber.
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Speaker 4: You can watch along on the Facebook and YouTube live stream at any points. Step up to end homelessness, walk a mile in my boots, register or donate today walkermile dot org dot au Andrews said, did you really just out of the words council and sensible in the same sentence. I know it felt weird. I hope it becomes a regular thing that it felt like a sense. It might have been Josh's words, Andrew, but I share the sentiment. Absolutely. Have a listen to the Prime Minister talking about AI yesterday.
01:47:49
Speaker 21: We are serious about attracting frontier AI investment to Australia because we want AI to support and create good jobs, not replace them.
01:48:00
Speaker 4: Prime Minister detailing what the Federal government's approach to AI, developing a policy and plan for it as a standalone industry and its effect on industries over the course of the next while. We've had a portfolio for Artificial intelligence for a while here in the South Australian government. It's held by a Minister Chris Picton. Minister. Good morning to you. Federal AI Plan, State AI Plan. Is this an AI rail gauge waiting to happen?
01:48:27
Speaker 9: Good morning, Will and Stacey. No, absolutely not, and certainly really welcome the Prime Minister's speech yesterday, and he's moved to set up an Office for AI and AI regulation and working through National Cabinet to establish those standards. As you said, we've been leading the way here in South Australia and I'm the first Minister for AI anywhere in the country. We've had an Office for AI here. To some time we've developed Data Center Strategy which has set forth our standards for the development of those investments here in South Australia. But it's great to see now the national governments also really consistently outlining the same vision and we want to work together to make sure that we can put in place the management of this regulation of it, but also attracting that investment into Australia as well.
01:49:15
Speaker 1: And so part of the plan that was announced yesterday relates to energy generation and the fact that the companies wanting to build these AI data centers will have to underwrite more power and put it into the grid than what they're going to use. I wonder how those rules interact with any rules we have here in South Australia. Will that mean that any of the data centers that are being built here or are planning to be built here won't be able to go ahead or we'll have to change their plans.
01:49:45
Speaker 9: Well, look, this is really consistent with what we came out with a month or two ago, which is that these AI data centers are great investment. You know, foreign private capital and Australian capital coming into our state, and you know lots of jobs with this as well. But also we need to be really mindful of the power and they are very power hungry and we need these companies who are developing these projects to bring their own generation and their own firm generation to that. The good news is that there's a lot of generation projects ready to go in South Australia. They've just been waiting on customers for them. So already we're seeing some of those data center providers and Firmis is one of those that's been leading the way. They've already signed a contract for the construction of a huge new battery in the mid north of South Australia, as well as a lot of other renewable generation in this state, to make sure that the data centers that they're proposing, which haven't yet got approval, will have the energy so that they're ready to come online.
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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister also mentioned a copyright in his speech yesterday, which is a concern to media outlets, authors, anyone who publishes anything that has copyright approvals in play. Have we considered that in South Australia, especially with the data centers that have already been approved, or has it just been something for the federal government to look at.
01:51:12
Speaker 9: Yeah, look, copyrights are federal government issues, so state governments don't have the power to manage copyright issues. But we certainly welcome the Prime Ministers outlined you know that there needs to be protection around artists and authors etc. In Australia and also that this will be a key priority for his new Office of AI and something that will be going to national Cabinet to discuss as well.
01:51:38
Speaker 4: Payroll tax is the most hated tax I think in the state. Some might say land tax, but payroll tax taxing people in the basis of how many people they employ in how much they pay them. Companies that use AI don't employ anyone. Do we need a differential tax rate into the future when it comes to the AI use and does it necessitate a change with how payroll tax supplied if you now can copeeding against businesses that might not have actual, living, breathing people working in them.
01:52:06
Speaker 9: Look, we've got no proposal to change tax arrangements here in South Australia, and I think we need so well, we don't have any proposal to do that. You know, we're a low taxing jurisdiction. There's a lot of national reports that say that, And you know, we want to be an attractive place for investment to come here in South Australia, and I think as well as you know, obviously we need to be mindful in terms of the potential disruption to a wide variety of professions out of what can come through AI, but we also need to be mindful of if we can lean into this, then there can be other jobs that can be created here in our state because of it. And we've got some world leading researchers here in South Australia already, particularly at Adelais University through the austrain Institute for Machine Learning. You know, we want to be at the forefront of this. We want to be at the cutting edge so that we can drive that investment and so that we can lead more jobs here and better future for our date as well as well.
01:53:00
Speaker 1: As using a lot of power. They churn through water. We know our desail plant was ramped up. How on earth is a state like South Australia who we go through droughts from time to time. How are we going to be able to provide enough water for data centers?
01:53:17
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I'm really grad you asked that Stace here because this is something that comes up a lot and a lot of the data centers, particularly in the US, use a lot of water, and the reason they do is the calling systems, their air conditioning systems are evaporative air conditioning, so they evaporate a lot of water to cool down the chips inside them. The good news is that you don't have to use that technology. There's other technology that can be used that uses a heck of a lot less water. If you've got a closed loop system where you're not evaporating that water, then the water usage can be absolutely dramatically lower. And so the proponents in Australia, the proponents in South Australia are all looking at using that much better, newer technology for calling those chips that's much better used for our water supply here in this state.
01:54:03
Speaker 1: Are they just looking at using it or is a requirement for them to use it?
01:54:07
Speaker 9: No, Well, that's a requirement in our standards and the strategy that we're put forward, but also something that the Prime Minister outlined as well, to make sure that we're using water efficient technology rather than those very water hungry technologies that we've seen in some of those other data centers.
01:54:24
Speaker 8: Around the world.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good news, minister. Thank you for your time this morning.
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