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What happens when organizations stop investing in curiosity?
In this episode of The Deprecated Human Podcast, Jess Lowry sits down with UX leader and UX Murder Mystery co-host Eve Eden to explore the role of creativity, research, and human understanding in an era increasingly defined by automation and artificial intelligence.
At its core, this episode is a conversation about imagination. As organizations race to adopt AI, many are reducing or eliminating product, design, and research teams in pursuit of greater efficiency. But what happens when companies optimize for production while neglecting the people responsible for understanding customers, uncovering opportunities, and making sense of complexity?
Drawing on more than 15 years of experience in UX and digital product design, Eve reflects on the evolution of the industry—from the early days of experimentation and creative exploration to today's conversations about AI-generated interfaces, synthetic research, and organizational restructuring.
Together, Jess and Eve examine a growing tension within the technology industry: the difference between building products and understanding the people who use them.
Podcast Guest: Eve Eden
Eve Eden is a UX and product design leader with more than 15 years of experience helping organizations design better products, improve customer experiences, and navigate digital transformation. Throughout her career, she has worked across industries, translating complex business challenges into human-centered solutions through research, design, and strategic thinking.
Eve is also the co-host of UX Murder Mystery, a podcast that explores product, service, and organizational failures through the lens of user experience, design, and decision-making. Through both her practice and podcasting, she advocates for the role of curiosity, creativity, and human understanding in building products that create meaningful value.
Known for her deep curiosity about human behavior and her passion for design, Eve brings a uniquely human perspective to conversations about AI, innovation, and the future of work.
Connect with Eve: Eve Eden on LinkedIn
Podcast Host: Jess Lowry
Jess leads the overall strategy, service design, and development of Mindful Collective—overseeing everything from organizational structure and partnerships to programming, member experience, and community growth.
Connect with Jess: Jess Lowry LinkedIn
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