Flagged DNA, a Secret Handler, and Missing Time in a War Zone

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It was almost like I didn't have a choice whether
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I'm being recruited or not type thing.
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You were already recruited. You were already in the system.
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So I sit there and point blank asked him, why
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did they pick me? I'm just a mechanic. I'm a nobody. Why?
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And he goes, well, they flagged your DNA and CRC.
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I said, okay, so why'd they flag it? He went,
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tell me. And I swear, I saw her change into
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a seven-foot-tall freaking dog. That's my memory.
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I'm Rye, your Codega. Here to lead you through the
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shadows of the unknown. My journeys have carried me across
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hidden corners of the world to places steeped in wonder, whispers,
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and unanswered questions. Walk with me as we uncover ancient civilizations,
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unravel unexplained phenomena, and chase the legends that refuse to die.
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Welcome to Codega's Codex of Curiosities. Alright everyone, welcome back
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to another episode of Codega's Codex of Curiosities. My name
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We get into some things that many other shows just don't,
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And everything else, well, it takes care of itself. So
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let's get into this. My guest tonight spent time overseas
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as a contractor, and somewhere there, he was flagged, well,
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his DNA was flagged, and They tried to recruit him.
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Things started happening. They might even happen before as well
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that he still can't explain. You know, whether it be
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missing days, a friend that maybe isn't a friend, physical
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problems that go on, that he connects to something way
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bigger than just this normal deployment. Now, this is the
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first time he's ever talked about it out loud. Richard,
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thank you for trusting us with this and welcome to
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the show.
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Thank you. Trust is something that I don't do very often.
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Not a problem. Not a problem. And I appreciate that.
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We'll make sure we keep that trust as well. Now,
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you had written me all about what had happened to you.
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We have been communicating for a fair while now. And
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quite honestly, it is a lot. And it's difficult to
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know where to actually begin with this. So, it might
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be easier if you just take us back to when
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this all started unfolding or, or when it started building,
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I guess what might be another way to say it
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as well.
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So, I mean, like, um, back in 2008, uh, everybody
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was having financial problems. So I'm looking for anything and everything.
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And so I look, I was looking at overseas contracts.
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I mean, it's, it's a hundred thousand a year tax free. So,
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I mean, like you got to jump on it if
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you can. And so I went overseas, um, I first
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went over it was U.S. Logistics. They were subcontracted by KBR.
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I went over there for six months doing that. Spent
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time in Al-Asad right next to Abraham's well. That was
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pretty cool.
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What were you next to, sorry?
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So Al-Asad was Saddam Hussein's pride and joy. And it
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was right next to Abraham's well. So they had it
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all gated off and everything to where you couldn't get
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to it. But, but like it was right there and
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pretty awesome. So, but, uh, started over there and I was,
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you know, I mean, like I'm a mechanic. So I,
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I went over as, as a maintenance technician for the,
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for the military working on anything and everything. If it
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was broke, we fixed it. So, uh, started off there
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and then went to DOD for red river doing battle
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damage repair. That was up in Spiker, Iraq. Um, And
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then I spent about seven months with them and then
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got a chance to go to work for BAE Systems. Granted,
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it was less money, but it was more responsibility and
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maybe more of a chance to get something back in
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the States that was close to what I was doing
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over there. So FSRs, they were either one or two
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or three of those people on the base at a time.
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So you have to be very responsible, and if you weren't,
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you got let go. So back in 2008 was the
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chance that I got to go to work for them.
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Let's go actually back way to the beginning, okay? Let's
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give an introduction to who is Rich. We know that
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you went overseas and stuff started happening, but let's see
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who is Rich and how did this all come about
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as well? And what was this process?
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I mean, I started out, I mean, I, I young,
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I mean, my family, my family was quote unquote Christian,
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you know, but like life wasn't all that great at
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the house. Pretty abusive actually. Um, um, I mean, like I,
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I even kept a loaded gun next to my bed.
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This is what, this is what created that person that
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I am. I kept a loaded gun next to my
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bed just so I could feel safe. You know what
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I mean? So, um, I worked and everything I ever
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wanted in life, I had to work for. If I
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wanted it, I had to pay for it out of
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my own pocket. If I wanted nice clothes, I had
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to pay for them out of my own pocket. I mean, granted,
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I got clothes and everything. My parents didn't leave me
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with nothing to wear, but it wasn't something that you'd
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want to wear. You know what I mean? So I
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got a job. I've been working since I was 12
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years old and paying for my own stuff pretty much
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from then. High school, I was senior in high school,
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got my parents moved away halfway through my senior year
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of high school and left me alone. And I went
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to stay with some friends and finished out high school
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and then went to college. My lived with my aunt
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and uncle. When I went to college, I went to
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Ferris state and graduated there. And my aunt and uncle
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let me live at their house because, you know, I mean,
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like if none of this stuff would have ever happened,
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I would have never graduated. I don't even know where
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I'd be. So I gotta, I gotta, I gotta really
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thank my aunt and uncle for that. And, you know,
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after that, just started working as a mechanic, you know,
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and then, then like hard times hit and I met,
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so my wife and I at the time then, now
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she's an ex-wife, but you know, it happens. Um, so
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my wife and I at the time, then we started
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going to this church and we met, we met this, this,
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this couple that was there. And, and, uh, like I
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started being friends with this guy. He's like 60 years
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old or close to it or whatever. I, I've normally
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gotten along with older people because it's just more, that's
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a maturity level, you know? So I'm, I'm more apt
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to deal with you if you're mature, not, not if
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you know something, you know what I mean? So if
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you're a mature person, I'm more apt to deal with
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you and more, mostly mature people are older people. So
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not all of them, some of them act like kids still, but.
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Definitely.
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But I thought he was a good person. I never
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got any bad feelings from him. And then when I
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went overseas, all this stuff started as far as him.
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I mean, I even left my motorcycle at his house
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because that was the only place I could store it.
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So I left it at his house and thought he
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was a friend and everything. And I come to find
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out he's part of this, I don't know what you'd
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call it, recruitment program or something. I don't even know
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what agency. I don't even know who it was trying
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to recruit me. But this guy, Kept, I mean, like.
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So he was keeping tabs on you is kind of
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what you were saying.
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So I'd get clickings on my phone. Back then I
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was drinking, you know, so I'd go into a bar
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and somebody would start talking to me. And then he'd
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tell me, man, you got to stop that. And I'm like,
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stop what? And he goes, well, you remember what happened
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the other night? Well, I mean, like, I'm one of
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those people I don't trust anybody. And if you're off,
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I'm going to ask questions to see if you're way off.
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And.
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every time one of these guys would come up and
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try to get information or whatever, it's like, Hey, I'm
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just going to bust you out. And he kept telling me,
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he's like, dude, you gotta, you gotta play by the rules,
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play by the rules or, you know, something bad's going
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to happen. I don't play by the rules. They know this.
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You know, I get back from Aberdeen, Maryland one time
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and he asked me, no, I wondered when you'd get here. So,
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and I tried to leave my computer and my, took
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the battery out of my cell phone. I tried to
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be like, I tried to make it so nobody knew
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where I was at. And he's standing in the driveway
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and asked me how long, you know, wondered when you'd
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get here. So this is what started the overseas thing
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with BAE systems. And that's really when everything started as
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far as the recruitment goes is when I started working for,
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right before I started working for BAE. So I was
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working DOD for Red River and it started, then, but
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not really until I started working on my own on
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these bases overseas. So.
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Rich, before you went, what was the medical conditions or what,
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what did they, what kind of medical interventions did they
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do to you before you left to go overseas?
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Just shots. I, I'm, I've, I've I don't go to
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the doctor. I've never had to go to the doctor.
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The only broken bone that I can remember that I've
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ever had from anything that wasn't intentional is I had
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a pony when I was six years old and maybe
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actually before I was six years old. I had a
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pony and she bucked me off in the wintertime and
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cracked my wrist and then stepped on it and broke it.
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That's the only time I can ever remember of any
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bone being broke in my body other than you know
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maybe my other hand just hitting.
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Stuff okay so now these shots that you were talking
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about did they tell you what each and every one
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was for and were you able to like okay yeah
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we're giving you five shots and then you know they
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actually give you six.
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Well supposedly it was supposedly it's it's just vaccine vaccines
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and stuff like that not You know, I'm not keeping
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track of it. I don't think they're doing anything wrong.
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I'm a trusting citizen at this point, you know what
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I mean?
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This is where I'm getting at is that, and did they,
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I'm assuming they took blood at that time as well.
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Yes, they did. I'm not sure what, supposedly what they
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said it was used for is they did a splotch
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card for if anything ever happened to me over there
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where they couldn't identify the body, they could do it
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by DNA. That's what their reasoning was, and that's what
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they told me it was for.
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Okay, so this is pretty much when they discovered your DNA, then.
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My guess, yeah. My guess is, yeah. So I don't
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even know what... I don't even know... So, like, there's
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not going to be anything online, even if it's real
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or even if it's not real. Either way, they're never
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going to post anything online about... doing anything like this
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it's so so against so against geneva convention and american
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law that it's not even funny and if they ever
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got caught doing it it would be just the end
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of everything so you're never going to find anything on
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whether what they're doing as far as checking your dna
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and how they checked it and what they checked it
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for you're just not.
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Going to find... But this is, Rich, this is what
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we're trying to get at right now, is trying to
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see the steps that they took. Okay, so they gave
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you your shots. They took just a quick little blood sample.
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What happened after that? Was there any training or was
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it like, boom, you're overseas?
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Or what was the time limit? We did our SEERS
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training and stuff like that. And there was basic medical
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training and, you know, just, you know, how to survive, basically.
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And they were... You know, they're telling you, okay, you
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got to go get your eyes checked. You got to go,
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you know, they did dental, they did optical, they did physical,
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all that stuff. And, you know, when you're cleared to go,
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you go. Like you spend a week in CRC and
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you're gone. As long as you can clear all the boxes,
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you're good.
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Okay, so when you did the shots and they took
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your blood to when you were boarding the plane, I
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know it was a while back, but if you were
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able to give me an approximate time, what would you say?
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Was it like a couple weeks, a couple months?
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It's about a week. When I went over for BAE Systems, though,
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that was a little different. I spent a month and
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a half in Aberdeen, Maryland at the Proving Grounds. We
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were doing testing and development and stuff like that with
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the vehicles that we were working on. Went up to York,
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Pennsylvania for, you know, a little bit doing TM validations,
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you know. So basically a TM is your technical manual
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that tells you how to disassemble and assemble and how
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to work on it and all that stuff. So we
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were doing validations on that. And, you know, just basic
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stuff with the truck. But at the same time, while
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I'm out there, there's too much weird stuff happening. And
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then I got sent down to North South Carolina, Charleston.
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to do some like a two week long deal on
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that before I went over for BAE.
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You can't leave us on. There's too much weird stuff
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happening in Maryland and then jump away.
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Okay.
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So when you say there's too much weird stuff happening, let's,
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what is that weird stuff that is happening in Maryland?
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So like, I mean, I, I, I came home quite
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a bit. I came back to Jackson quite a bit
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because I just knew people and, and, uh, I was
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living in Jackson, Michigan at the time. And, and, and, uh,
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every time I'd come back to Michigan, it was just my,
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the handlers coming off with something weird every time. And
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it's so hard to figure out and remember what he
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talked about. It's just like, he would talk about his,
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like he got, the biggest thing I can remember him
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telling me every time is you need to start doing
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what you're told. You need to start playing ball. That's
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the main thing he would tell me every single time. Like, okay.
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Like I didn't have, it was almost like I didn't
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have a choice whether I'm being recruited or not type thing.
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You were already recruited. You were already in, in the system.
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So, I mean, like, um, I don't know if you've
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heard of Chase Hughes.
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No, I have not. Please inform me on that.
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He's a, he's a, he's a, he's on YouTube. He's
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got a channel and everything. And he's a, he's basically a, psychotherapist,
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something or another. He used to work at the agency
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doing basically he would mess with your head and get
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you to do things and stuff like that. So he
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would reprogram you mentally to do whatever he wanted you
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to do or whatever the military wanted you to do.
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He was a Marine or something like that, was in
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the Marines. So kind of like a mentalist of sorts.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And I swear, I swear he was my neighbor in Ramadi,
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but I never get a response from him. It just
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probably looks like him, you know, maybe that's the memory
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I have, but I don't trust any of my memories
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from over there either, because I have memories of some
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really weird stuff happening over there. And I don't, I
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don't remember it, you know, but it's a memory, but
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I don't remember it as true. I don't know if
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it's fake. I don't know if I thought of it
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and then just, you know, you know, believed it was real.
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I don't know. I don't even trust my own memories
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from overseas. It's just, it's that messed up. So the
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three days that I, I have three days in Ramadi
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that I don't remember. And we were playing cards one
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night and there was a civilian. I'm not sure if
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she was a local national or whether she was a
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third country national or what she was, but like we
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were playing cards and everything. And that's the last person
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I saw because I started feeling sick, and when I
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started feeling sick, I went to bed, and I don't
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remember anything for three days, but I wasn't dehydrated, I
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wasn't hungry, yeah, I wasn't dehydrated, I wasn't hungry, I
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didn't soil myself, none of it, but I woke up
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three days later, and I saw the same person in
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the cow hall, And she looked like the life was
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scared out of her when she saw me. Like, how
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does that happen? Why are you so scared of me?
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Seeing me. And I'm just like trying to say hi. Like, hey.
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I'm thinking nothing happened, you know?
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What were you doing? You're just playing cards. And was
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there anything?
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Yeah, we were playing cards out between the two. So
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they call them chews. The living quarters is basically a
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connex with a door in it. And, and with flooring
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and a bed, you know, and so we're sitting in
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between and playing on a card table in between the
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twos outside. It's, you know, it's a hundred degrees at
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night in the summertime. So, so we're, we're out there
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playing cards and we get done playing cards and her
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and I are hanging out and all of a sudden
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I start feeling sick and I lay down on the bed,
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start sweating my, you know, sweating really bad. And I'm like,
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I gotta, I gotta go to bed. And she leaves
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and I wake up three days later with just a
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slight headache and, I can't remember nothing.
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Did you talk to anybody after that? And did they
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come and approach you? Or does anybody say like what
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happened to you? I didn't tell a soul. I didn't
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tell a soul because I was scared.
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The first time I ever told anybody about that was
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probably 10 years after it happened. Yeah, I didn't tell anybody.
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I think my wife was the only one that knew
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about that before I started really telling people about missing
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time because people think you're crazy when you tell them
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you're missing time like that and especially if you're in
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a war zone and you tell them you're missing time
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then they really think you're.
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Nuts probably and probably send you back home then and
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that's something that you didn't want to do.
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Well i mean yeah i mean like i don't want
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to if you can't take care of yourself over there
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you go home if you get dehydrated more than once
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and you have to go get it checked out you're
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going home if you can't take care of yourself they
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don't want you over there because you're a liability at
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that point.
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It's almost.
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Like it's on the spiritual side. that's the direction that my,
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that my thoughts are going. So every memory that I
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have that I think I have of that is like
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a spiritual memory. On top of that, I can't say
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her name because she still worked for the government and
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all that stuff. And I don't really don't want to
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get flagged, but there was a, so Air Force E8
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in charge of military intelligence. Her and I had kind
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of a thing going on. I was, I was, I
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was not, a good Christian man back then. I just,
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I had fun, but like, she's an E8 in charge.
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She's the only air force E8 on Ramadi. And she's
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the one in charge of, um, army intelligence on Ramadi. Well,
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Ramadi is like the central area of problems in Iraq,
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as far as Al Anbar province. So to be that person,
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you have to have some, some clout. Well, she's, Come
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to find out, this is after a lot of research,
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and I don't know how I found out, but I did.
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She was deployed directly through Langley to Ramad. And I
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still talk to her. But I started asking the wrong questions,
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and now she won't respond at all. She'll look at it,
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but she won't respond. So, and supposedly... She.
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Leaves you on read. She just looks at it and then, yeah.
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Well, this is the crazy part. So, supposedly, there's a
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wolf pack that she belongs to.
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A wolf pack? What do you mean by wolf pack?
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Um, exactly that. So, like, government projects, wolf pack.
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Do you mean like, like, uh... Some secret stuff. Like
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Dogs of War?
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Yeah, something like that.
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Like Kryptans, almost, kind of thing? Like werewolf?
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I swear, I have a memory. I have a memory.
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I don't know if it's true or not, but I
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also hung out with a DOD lady that did PSD
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missions outside of Ramadi 2, and she had her own
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interpreter and everything. We used to play cards, too. And
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I swear, I saw her change into a seven-foot-tall freaking dog.
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That's my memory. I don't know if it's true or not.
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That's my memory. This is on Ramadi.
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This memory that you have of this seven foot tall creature,
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are you able to give us any type of description
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of that? Yeah, I really should be placing over that.
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Looks like tall, not muscular, skinny, with a dog face,
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fur covered, pale, female looking dog. Didn't have a mane
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or nothing like that. Wasn't a male. It was a
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female looking dog, seven foot tall that changed right there
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in front of me. And I'm going to be honest
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with you. When I, when I look back at it,
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she actually was when she would be like touchy. She almost,
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she almost acted like a, like a pet. You know
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what I mean? But like, it's weird. I don't, I
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don't know if it's real or not. That's the type
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of stuff. I just don't know if it's real because
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my head's so messed up and it's been so messed
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up for so freaking long. I don't trust any of
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my thoughts either. I just don't.
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Fair enough. But just to have that thought alone, where
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does that come from? Where does that come from?
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I don't know.
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This woman who had changed to the seven foot tall creature,
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who was she?
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She was a DOD. She was a DOD. civilian that
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worked with the PSD missions outside of Ramadi.
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What is PSD?
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Basically a PSD mission is something that it's a mission
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where a group of people, generals, military and everything go
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outside the wire and they talk to the area and
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they try to, it's like a peacekeeping type thing. So
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they get the ideas of the local sheiks and stuff
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like that and They try to just keep the peace
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in the area. That's what a PSD mission, the whole
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point of it is. Okay. Okay. Keep the peace. That
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makes sense. She's a civilian and has some, I don't
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know what you'd call it. I don't know what her
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specific role was in that, but. I understand. Stuff tends
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to be a little secret on the base because nobody
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knows who's cleared it, know what. So, I mean, like,
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there's probably stuff that I've seen and told other people
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that I probably shouldn't have because I don't know. You know,
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it was just told to me because they just figured
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I had clearance. I had clearance. I had a secret clearance,
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but I did not have a top secret clearance. And supposedly,
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I had above top secret clearance clearance as far as
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my license goes. I'll give you a funny story. This
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will mess you up. I'm out in Maryland doing my
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training and everything for BA systems before I go over there.
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Like I said, I was a partier back then and
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I drank a lot. That's what you do in the
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States when you're home before you go back over and
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deploy because you don't drink, you don't party, you don't
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do nothing for six months. I'm sitting there partying my
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butt off in Maryland and doing training and stuff like that.
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And I'm on my way back to the hotel. I
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get pulled over by the cops. I'm drunk. And by
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the end of it, he does the tests and all
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that stuff, does the breathalyzer. I'm thinking I'm going to
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jail and everything else. And I'm not trying to make
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this sound cool or anything like that because it's not.
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I don't even drink anymore. I gave that stuff up
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a while back. It just doesn't hit me and it
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don't get along. So he comes up to the car
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after he tells me to go sit in the car.
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He hands me my license and registration. He doesn't even
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come up to the window. He just says, here. Hands
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me my license, registration, and a warning for texting on
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my phone. Doesn't tell me to drive safe. Doesn't tell
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me anything. Gets back in his car. Turns the lights off.
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Turns around and goes the other way. I asked my buddy,
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my buddy, buddy slash handler, I said, what happened there?
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He said, you have a do not detain on your license.
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I said, oh, okay. I didn't know this stuff.
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You didn't question it or anything? I would have been like, yeah.
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I didn't know this stuff. You know, like, basically, you're
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cleared to get away with anything you want short of murder.
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I mean, no, no, I didn't. I mean, like, I
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was careful after that, you know, because I didn't want
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00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:14.680
to push my luck or nothing like that. But when
476
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:16.559
you sit there and you tell me, hey, you had
477
00:27:16.579 --> 00:27:19.099
a do not detain on your license, what is that
478
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:20.160
supposed to mean to me?
479
00:27:20.180 --> 00:27:22.460
Okay, cool. Sounds good.
480
00:27:23.980 --> 00:27:26.680
Um, but you know, after, after all of it, you know,
481
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.119
that then, then he tells me, he goes, yeah, you,
482
00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:32.599
they declined you because of you, you, you were uncontrollable.
483
00:27:33.049 --> 00:27:35.609
You were deemed uncontrollable. Okay.
484
00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:39.390
So before we get to that though, okay. Now you
485
00:27:39.430 --> 00:27:43.829
had told me a little bit about, um, some DNA
486
00:27:43.910 --> 00:27:47.910
testing or so someone flagged your DNA, um, before you
487
00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:50.130
even knew why. So I'd like for you to take
488
00:27:50.170 --> 00:27:51.660
me back to that moment you found out.
489
00:27:52.130 --> 00:27:54.750
So this is a couple years ago that I was
490
00:27:54.789 --> 00:27:59.089
talking to my so-called handler friend, whatever it was, because
491
00:27:59.109 --> 00:28:01.950
he's the only person that I know that has real
492
00:28:02.059 --> 00:28:04.299
answers for me, but he won't give them up unless
493
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.779
I ask the right questions. So I sit there and
494
00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.079
point blank ask him, why did they pick me? I'm
495
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:12.940
just a mechanic. I'm a nobody.
496
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:14.680
Why?
497
00:28:16.250 --> 00:28:19.509
And he goes, well, they flagged your DNA and CRC.
498
00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:22.759
I said, okay, so why'd they flag it? It wouldn't
499
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:28.220
tell me. So then I start on this mission of, okay,
500
00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:32.599
let me figure this out. So then I'm studying DNA,
501
00:28:32.660 --> 00:28:36.049
studying bloodlines, studying all this other stuff. And, you know,
502
00:28:36.410 --> 00:28:37.869
I'm thinking, okay, does it have to do with the
503
00:28:37.869 --> 00:28:40.869
13 families like Latham Reynolds? Does it have to do with,
504
00:28:40.950 --> 00:28:43.730
you know, giants? Does it have to do with Nephilim blood?
505
00:28:43.970 --> 00:28:47.839
Does it have to do with, you know, bloodline of whatever? Whatever.
506
00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:51.579
And then I start recently getting into epigenetics and stuff
507
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.099
like that and genome and being able to program genomes
508
00:28:55.160 --> 00:29:00.890
and stuff like that. Okay, so trauma will change your DNA,
509
00:29:01.309 --> 00:29:04.309
create a different genome, and totally change the way your
510
00:29:04.329 --> 00:29:09.269
brain activates or acts or learns or anything else. So
511
00:29:10.809 --> 00:29:14.259
was it because my genome had trauma in it or
512
00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:17.680
was it because my DNA is some certain bloodline? I
513
00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:21.140
still don't. My wife even says my eyes will change.
514
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.920
They'll go black at times and they'll go like a
515
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.069
gray at times, like a fuzzy gray, like your TV
516
00:29:29.250 --> 00:29:35.029
fuzzy gray. And then they'll go like a bright yellow sometimes. Yeah.
517
00:29:36.150 --> 00:29:38.950
It depends on my mood. When I'm really irritated and upset,
518
00:29:39.049 --> 00:29:44.130
they just go straight to... black. Like when anger pulls out,
519
00:29:44.650 --> 00:29:47.710
they go straight up jet black. I don't know if
520
00:29:47.869 --> 00:29:51.569
that's entity or whatever. I consider myself a saved person.
521
00:29:51.630 --> 00:29:55.319
I don't know. And I don't know if you're saved,
522
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.140
whether you can be possessed or not. I don't know.
523
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:00.099
I don't know.
524
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:05.960
But what you are saying, like your description of, you know,
525
00:30:05.980 --> 00:30:09.519
your eyes changing to black at times or bright yellow
526
00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:15.029
or like this, this gray kind of like staticky kind
527
00:30:15.069 --> 00:30:15.380
of thing.
528
00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:15.660
Yeah.
529
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:20.769
It doesn't sound like anger that is causing that. It
530
00:30:20.809 --> 00:30:23.589
sounds like it's something else. And like you said, can
531
00:30:23.630 --> 00:30:26.950
someone be possessed even after they're, even after they're saved?
532
00:30:27.230 --> 00:30:28.049
And yeah.
533
00:30:28.529 --> 00:30:29.470
So, okay.
534
00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:34.509
If it's mood related, what emotions are triggering those ones?
535
00:30:34.529 --> 00:30:37.480
Like if you are in a good mood and things are,
536
00:30:37.579 --> 00:30:40.279
you know, you're full of love and, uh, and everything else,
537
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.740
do they change? Bright yellow.
538
00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:44.140
Yeah.
539
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.049
Okay. They'll go almost, almost a yellow color.
540
00:30:47.690 --> 00:30:47.890
Yeah.
541
00:30:49.410 --> 00:30:52.269
Normally they're brown. Normally they're brown and they've always been
542
00:30:52.309 --> 00:30:54.329
brown since I was a kid or whatever. And, and
543
00:30:54.529 --> 00:30:57.700
re you know, So in the last, I want to say,
544
00:30:57.740 --> 00:30:59.700
four or five years is the only time I've ever
545
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.559
noticed them change. And here's the other picture, too. My
546
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:09.200
son has the same thing going on, too. Because my mother-in-law,
547
00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:13.099
right after he was born, my mother-in-law was taking care
548
00:31:13.140 --> 00:31:15.859
of him while the wife was on her maternity leave
549
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.549
and everything, trying to get back ready to go to work.
550
00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:20.549
And so the mother-in-law was taking care of him and everything.
551
00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:23.490
And his eyes went from yellow and then flipped right
552
00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:26.970
back to normal. So, and that's the only time that
553
00:31:27.029 --> 00:31:28.670
I know of that it's happened to him, but like
554
00:31:30.890 --> 00:31:34.390
what part of me went to him because he was
555
00:31:34.450 --> 00:31:39.339
born after I went to, went overseas. So whatever, whatever,
556
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.480
if something is different with me, did it transfer is
557
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:44.140
what I want to know.
558
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.779
Do you feel that something happened to you overseas that triggered?
559
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.920
So like you said in the beginning here, you, I mean,
560
00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:53.440
not in the beginning, but you were just saying that,
561
00:31:53.539 --> 00:31:56.950
is it bloodlines? What is it? Um, do you feel
562
00:31:56.990 --> 00:32:01.410
that something was activated overseas or they possibly did something
563
00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:02.589
to you overseas?
564
00:32:02.630 --> 00:32:04.529
That's what I, that's what I don't know. And that's
565
00:32:04.569 --> 00:32:07.450
what I'm trying to figure out is, is if I,
566
00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:10.430
if I, so I even, I even went so far
567
00:32:10.509 --> 00:32:13.569
as to try to find a genetics place that would
568
00:32:13.609 --> 00:32:16.059
check your DNA and check your genome and all that stuff.
569
00:32:16.500 --> 00:32:20.960
Do you know, there is not one single place in
570
00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:23.140
the United States or in the world that that is
571
00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:28.609
not government-controlled, that can check your DNA. Every single one
572
00:32:28.650 --> 00:32:32.079
of them is government-controlled. There is not one private institution
573
00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.940
that you can just pay money to and have them
574
00:32:34.980 --> 00:32:39.539
tell you what your family background is or anything. All
575
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:45.069
these family tree, whatever things, they're all government-controlled.
576
00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:49.759
This 21andMe kind of thing. Yeah, BlackRock has bought.
577
00:32:49.539 --> 00:32:51.220
All that as well. Yes, all of them have a
578
00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:54.440
government base to them. So if you really, really look
579
00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:58.460
into what controls that place, it'll look private on the top.
580
00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:01.819
But once you start digging into the company, it's all
581
00:33:01.900 --> 00:33:04.880
government regulated. And they have to put all their results
582
00:33:04.980 --> 00:33:06.559
on a government website and everything else.
583
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.700
Your handler, when did you decide, no, I don't want
584
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.750
to say decide, but when did you discover that, he
585
00:33:15.789 --> 00:33:18.730
technically wasn't a friend. He was more of a handler.
586
00:33:18.910 --> 00:33:21.390
And what, what happened after that point?
587
00:33:22.710 --> 00:33:26.089
It's a, it's a weird situation with him because he
588
00:33:28.430 --> 00:33:33.890
still says that he doesn't know. He says that his memories,
589
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.059
he doesn't, he doesn't remember what's going on. He doesn't
590
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:41.160
remember this, doesn't remember that. I find that hard to believe.
591
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:47.640
But at the same time, I don't remember stuff either.
592
00:33:48.430 --> 00:33:54.150
And it's proven that you can take, by frequency, you
593
00:33:54.190 --> 00:33:58.450
can take memories, delete them, and put memories in with
594
00:33:58.490 --> 00:34:00.609
a different frequency. Like it's science.
595
00:34:01.490 --> 00:34:03.369
And that comes up quite often. I just released an
596
00:34:03.410 --> 00:34:07.910
episode where we're talking about screen memories, where aliens are
597
00:34:07.930 --> 00:34:09.010
doing this.
598
00:34:09.030 --> 00:34:11.550
Yeah, it's science. They can take a memory and put
599
00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:13.199
it in your head that you never even had.
600
00:34:13.929 --> 00:34:17.349
So you believe that you have a lot of these
601
00:34:17.690 --> 00:34:21.250
alternate reality that is not your true reality, just these,
602
00:34:21.710 --> 00:34:23.449
as we would call it, a screen memory. So you
603
00:34:23.489 --> 00:34:27.730
have these screen memories in place of these other ones,
604
00:34:28.090 --> 00:34:28.769
of the reality.
605
00:34:29.610 --> 00:34:31.949
Right, but I'm not positive that they're a screen memory.
606
00:34:32.889 --> 00:34:35.159
That's the thing. I don't know if something's seeping through.
607
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:41.019
I mean, how do you know for sure unless you
608
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.849
know somebody that was there? And then how do you
609
00:34:44.889 --> 00:34:47.590
believe that person when the person that you're supposed to
610
00:34:47.610 --> 00:34:51.570
be able to believe is somebody that they took? Like,
611
00:34:51.690 --> 00:34:55.309
how do you believe when everything around you says that
612
00:34:55.329 --> 00:34:58.719
you shouldn't? Like your gut tells you something different than
613
00:34:58.780 --> 00:35:03.679
what everything around you is telling you. Normally your gut's
614
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:04.780
not wrong. It isn't.
615
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:06.960
It really isn't. A lot of times we just, we
616
00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:08.880
don't listen to our gut. We don't listen to what
617
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:09.719
it's saying to us.
618
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.590
Yeah. Right. And I think the gut, I think, I
619
00:35:12.610 --> 00:35:14.550
think your gut, when your gut's telling you something, that's
620
00:35:14.590 --> 00:35:19.159
Holy Spirit telling you, be careful, you know, without really
621
00:35:19.219 --> 00:35:23.460
voicing it. I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm a Christian.
622
00:35:23.659 --> 00:35:26.320
Let's put it this way. I'm a Christian. I believe
623
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.199
in God. I have a lot of different views than
624
00:35:29.219 --> 00:35:34.559
a lot of different people. I grew up Baptist. I'll
625
00:35:34.579 --> 00:35:35.800
never go back to a Baptist church.
626
00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:41.920
OK, so I do want to come back to this, Rich,
627
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:46.639
when you when you discovered that your friend was not
628
00:35:46.969 --> 00:35:48.610
who he said he was. I know you're saying that
629
00:35:48.750 --> 00:35:51.909
he has these spotty memories as well. But was there
630
00:35:52.070 --> 00:35:56.369
a time that you're just like, OK, something's not adding up.
631
00:35:56.590 --> 00:36:00.480
And this was the point where you you either questioned
632
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.260
him or you knew something was not right.
633
00:36:05.369 --> 00:36:07.969
So the first time ever he put a piece of
634
00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:15.960
paper in front of me that had a coded message
635
00:36:15.980 --> 00:36:19.219
in it and asked me what do I think about that.
636
00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:21.039
And the instant he put it in front of me,
637
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.559
I started decoding it. Don't ask me why I started
638
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.139
doing that because all it was was a freaking recipe.
639
00:36:27.219 --> 00:36:30.119
But it had my personal information in there. It had
640
00:36:30.179 --> 00:36:33.440
dates and times and everything of stuff that had already happened.
641
00:36:35.789 --> 00:36:37.369
And I handed him back the piece of paper and
642
00:36:37.389 --> 00:36:40.329
he looked at it and he goes, huh, that's all
643
00:36:40.369 --> 00:36:43.670
he said. And I don't know why I said that,
644
00:36:43.690 --> 00:36:46.510
but there's some things that I can look at and
645
00:36:46.550 --> 00:36:50.559
it just triggers me to try to decode it. And
646
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:55.480
other things it doesn't. Like it's, it's, it's just a
647
00:36:55.539 --> 00:36:58.840
feeling of, okay, there's something more there than what's, than
648
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.510
what I'm seeing. So you just look at it and
649
00:37:01.550 --> 00:37:04.530
you decode it. Like I've done it with Bible verses
650
00:37:04.590 --> 00:37:08.800
and come up with, different stuff too that other people
651
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.619
have proved. So it's weird.
652
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.460
So there's something more in these words or in these
653
00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:18.059
writings that you are seeing that you're able to... Right, right.
654
00:37:18.739 --> 00:37:20.260
It just kind of flows into shape.
655
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:25.139
I never take anything for face value. I never take
656
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.480
anything for face value. There's always something underneath it.
657
00:37:27.869 --> 00:37:30.769
So he placed this recipe in front of you and
658
00:37:30.849 --> 00:37:34.550
you ended up seeing something else that was written in there.
659
00:37:34.610 --> 00:37:37.170
And it was almost... It almost came naturally to you.
660
00:37:37.179 --> 00:37:39.360
It wasn't like you had to force yourself to do this.
661
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:39.840
Right.
662
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.599
I've never been trained for decoding or anything like that.
663
00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:46.019
And my wife sees me do it and she goes,
664
00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:48.090
I don't understand how you can do this.
665
00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:56.789
That's intriguing that that has happened. Now, okay. So how
666
00:37:56.849 --> 00:38:00.300
many other conversations have you had with your clients? We'll
667
00:38:00.449 --> 00:38:03.329
call him your handler. Have you asked him about it?
668
00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:05.900
What other questions have you asked him? And has he
669
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.980
actually come out and answered anything for you?
670
00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:13.039
He really won't tell me anything. He really won't tell
671
00:38:13.059 --> 00:38:13.559
me anything.
672
00:38:15.010 --> 00:38:15.239
Won't.
673
00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:19.969
I don't know whether he just doesn't know or whether
674
00:38:19.989 --> 00:38:26.170
he just won't. But I have asked and asked and
675
00:38:26.250 --> 00:38:28.449
asked and asked. And if I push him too much farther,
676
00:38:28.489 --> 00:38:31.550
he's just going to tell me. to go jump in
677
00:38:31.610 --> 00:38:31.889
a lake.
678
00:38:33.489 --> 00:38:36.809
Do you believe that there are fractures and they created
679
00:38:36.849 --> 00:38:41.590
these fractures or utilized or capitalized on these fractures in your,
680
00:38:42.130 --> 00:38:42.889
of who you are?
681
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:47.900
I'm pretty sure they capitalized on previous fractures. So like
682
00:38:49.420 --> 00:38:54.639
they saw an opportunity, they saw an opportunity to use
683
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.630
somebody that had a lot of childhood problems and most
684
00:38:58.670 --> 00:39:02.570
of these most, most from what my research tells me
685
00:39:02.769 --> 00:39:05.409
is most of the time they're going to use, um,
686
00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:09.849
they're going to use people that have, have sexual trauma
687
00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:15.659
in their, in their childhood. And that's pretty much what happened.
688
00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:18.320
I'm not even sure exactly what happened when I was
689
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.199
a kid, but I know it was on along those lines.
690
00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:23.440
I don't really want to get into details because I
691
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.039
was asked when I was asked by my mother not to. So,
692
00:39:27.769 --> 00:39:29.510
I'm not going to get into details on it, but
693
00:39:29.570 --> 00:39:31.800
like it was bad. And that's why I said I
694
00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:33.679
had to have, I mean, like I kept a loaded
695
00:39:33.699 --> 00:39:35.780
gun next to my bed because I wanted, that's the
696
00:39:35.820 --> 00:39:37.400
only way I felt safe when I was a kid.
697
00:39:38.940 --> 00:39:42.500
So trauma like that will change a person and make
698
00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:48.059
them into something just like, I don't even know. I,
699
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.949
I don't remember my childhood other than feeling like I
700
00:39:54.989 --> 00:39:57.710
wasn't safe and feeling like I had to protect myself.
701
00:39:59.389 --> 00:40:01.789
That's all I remember about my childhood. Like all the
702
00:40:01.809 --> 00:40:03.369
way up until I graduated high school.
703
00:40:05.570 --> 00:40:08.590
That you were constantly on edge and had to protect
704
00:40:08.610 --> 00:40:09.630
yourself always.
705
00:40:09.789 --> 00:40:15.050
Oh yeah, oh yeah, still am. I have issues now
706
00:40:15.130 --> 00:40:19.329
with thinking people are following me. Half the time it's
707
00:40:19.349 --> 00:40:23.800
probably not true, but I'm paranoid. I'm really paranoid. My
708
00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:27.280
phone will click on. It'll be sitting on my table,
709
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.699
and it'll just click on all out of the blue.
710
00:40:31.699 --> 00:40:34.280
My home screen will come on and click on, and
711
00:40:34.340 --> 00:40:36.480
I'm like, oh, I haven't touched it for an hour
712
00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:42.900
and a half. So I get click-ins on my phone calls, everything.
713
00:40:43.460 --> 00:40:45.619
I try not to keyword anything because I get clicked
714
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.030
in on. I'm surprised no weird stuff has happened with
715
00:40:50.050 --> 00:40:50.869
this conversation.
716
00:40:51.989 --> 00:40:54.829
I was expecting something to happen as well, but nothing has,
717
00:40:55.269 --> 00:41:00.550
which is normal for these types of conversations. Now, has
718
00:41:00.570 --> 00:41:03.489
there been anything physical now? Physical, like I know you
719
00:41:03.530 --> 00:41:06.670
said your eyes were changing, but has there been anything
720
00:41:07.570 --> 00:41:09.449
like happening to you physically?
721
00:41:09.469 --> 00:41:14.889
So when I fracture, when I fracture, it is physical
722
00:41:14.929 --> 00:41:18.010
when I fracture because my wife will tell me that different,
723
00:41:18.409 --> 00:41:22.429
different fractures will cause me to walk a certain way,
724
00:41:23.170 --> 00:41:27.159
feel a certain way. So if I fracture off, it's
725
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.159
an adrenaline rush. I don't feel anything. But when I
726
00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:34.519
come down off of that, I feel like I can't
727
00:41:34.539 --> 00:41:40.699
hardly move. Like my joints hurt. I can't hardly walk.
728
00:41:40.780 --> 00:41:44.219
My feet hurt. Everything hurts when I come down off
729
00:41:44.300 --> 00:41:50.199
of that. Um, There'll be days I'll swell up, my
730
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.329
hands will swell up, my feet will swell up, and
731
00:41:53.650 --> 00:41:58.030
the wife has also watched this. I will flip out
732
00:41:58.070 --> 00:42:02.730
of a fracture, and my hands will, you can watch them,
733
00:42:04.250 --> 00:42:08.719
the swelling go down in them. And 30 seconds ago,
734
00:42:08.780 --> 00:42:11.539
I couldn't bend over, but I can kneel down and
735
00:42:17.489 --> 00:42:21.090
sit on my, on the backs of my, uh, cats
736
00:42:22.130 --> 00:42:24.309
and I get up and it doesn't hurt. So like
737
00:42:24.329 --> 00:42:26.099
there is a physical factor to it.
738
00:42:26.889 --> 00:42:29.449
Okay. So it's not just pain. It's, it's something is
739
00:42:29.510 --> 00:42:30.590
changing in your body.
740
00:42:30.650 --> 00:42:33.889
Something is, something is changing in the body to where
741
00:42:34.090 --> 00:42:37.110
it's like not allowing me to do certain things or,
742
00:42:37.550 --> 00:42:41.000
or things like that. So I've also tried to research
743
00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:43.860
that when you have thoughts and when you have different
744
00:42:43.900 --> 00:42:47.280
things go on, your brain produces certain chemicals to create
745
00:42:47.389 --> 00:42:53.449
a certain atmosphere or whatever. So, again, science is finally
746
00:42:53.489 --> 00:42:55.989
catching up to the Bible when it says, you know,
747
00:42:56.289 --> 00:42:59.730
capture every thought. It means capture every thought because a
748
00:42:59.789 --> 00:43:05.719
thought can create pain, can create, you know, stress, can
749
00:43:05.780 --> 00:43:08.820
create anxiety, can create anything like this, and then that
750
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.940
creates chemicals that create everything else.
751
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:12.980
So.
752
00:43:15.050 --> 00:43:19.489
When you flip, your brain is creating chemicals to make
753
00:43:19.530 --> 00:43:20.909
you feel the way that you're feeling.
754
00:43:22.409 --> 00:43:27.800
I have some more questions. Has this been going on
755
00:43:27.980 --> 00:43:31.599
all your life? These fractures, I think, have happened from
756
00:43:31.659 --> 00:43:34.099
when you were younger, like I'm sure that there was
757
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.760
maybe like due to, due to trauma, but these actual,
758
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:43.019
them capitalizing on, was that after you, was that during
759
00:43:43.059 --> 00:43:44.960
you were in Iraq or was it before you left
760
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.409
for Iraq or when you got back? What would you say?
761
00:43:47.429 --> 00:43:51.210
Most everything that's happened has happened after I got back.
762
00:43:51.550 --> 00:43:55.710
So it's like a PTSD type thing, almost. And that's
763
00:43:55.789 --> 00:43:57.949
kind of another, another thing I'm trying to, trying to,
764
00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:02.000
trying to really process too is, Okay, is it just PTSD?
765
00:44:02.059 --> 00:44:03.800
Am I just coming up with this stuff? Or is
766
00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:08.889
there a reason behind why I'm feeling this way?
767
00:44:08.949 --> 00:44:09.130
Why?
768
00:44:09.210 --> 00:44:12.050
What's going on? Because two years after I got back,
769
00:44:12.389 --> 00:44:15.210
I felt normal. It took me two years to acclimate back,
770
00:44:15.309 --> 00:44:17.829
and I felt normal. And then about four years ago
771
00:44:18.929 --> 00:44:22.579
is when it really kicked in hard. And it was
772
00:44:22.619 --> 00:44:23.079
out of the blue.
773
00:44:25.460 --> 00:44:27.159
There was nothing, a trigger or anything?
774
00:44:27.179 --> 00:44:27.239
No.
775
00:44:28.380 --> 00:44:31.440
Well, I had some pretty good trauma going on a
776
00:44:31.460 --> 00:44:33.780
few years ago, and I'm not necessarily ready to talk
777
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.219
about that either, but I got in some trouble, and
778
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:41.329
I don't feel like it was me, you know, because
779
00:44:41.449 --> 00:44:44.650
I was already depressed, and I was already, you know,
780
00:44:44.710 --> 00:44:51.869
I was playing Russian roulette on a daily basis. I
781
00:44:51.909 --> 00:44:56.980
had a. 45. I'd just spin it at least once
782
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.860
a day. for a long time. I just didn't want
783
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.460
to be here no more. And then trauma happened then.
784
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.000
And then all of a sudden, and then start really,
785
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.960
really thinking about what happened overseas. And it just, it
786
00:45:11.980 --> 00:45:14.559
all came up to a head all at one time.
787
00:45:14.579 --> 00:45:18.590
And so I started really, really researching, started watching everything
788
00:45:18.619 --> 00:45:24.670
I could watch and got into science, got into geology,
789
00:45:24.730 --> 00:45:28.769
got into physics, got into biology, got into you know,
790
00:45:29.550 --> 00:45:33.389
DNA got into electromagnetics and believe it or not, all
791
00:45:33.849 --> 00:45:38.030
of that stuff intertwines. And if you don't have, if
792
00:45:38.070 --> 00:45:41.429
you're missing one of those sciences, none of it really works.
793
00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:46.239
So like electromagnetics is, is, you know, you can, you
794
00:45:46.260 --> 00:45:48.780
can look at brain function and see electromagnetics work. You
795
00:45:48.820 --> 00:45:52.460
can look at DNA and see electromagnetics. It's, it's, it's,
796
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:56.579
it's crazy. You can, you can look at, um, I
797
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.260
started looking at, at, how your body connects to the
798
00:45:59.380 --> 00:46:05.059
earth and how, you know, brain function and everything else
799
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.139
is affected by certain chemicals and what you eat and
800
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.019
how you eat. You know, I mean, I'm searching for
801
00:46:12.139 --> 00:46:13.119
everything and anything.
802
00:46:14.139 --> 00:46:16.920
But Rich, I'd like to go back to Iraq, though.
803
00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:21.010
I think that's where a lot of this happened, whether
804
00:46:21.050 --> 00:46:23.769
you remember it or not. You know, I would love
805
00:46:23.809 --> 00:46:26.269
to see if there is anything else that stands out,
806
00:46:26.289 --> 00:46:28.800
like this memory that you had about, the woman changing
807
00:46:28.860 --> 00:46:33.650
into this seven-foot-tall dog werewolf, you know, dog woman, I
808
00:46:33.690 --> 00:46:36.690
guess it was called, is quite unique. And even though
809
00:46:36.730 --> 00:46:38.150
you're doubting it, like.
810
00:46:38.269 --> 00:46:40.469
Where does that... I don't know if it's real. I
811
00:46:40.510 --> 00:46:41.389
don't know if it's real.
812
00:46:41.690 --> 00:46:43.949
And that I understand, but where does that come from?
813
00:46:44.289 --> 00:46:45.030
You know, there is.
814
00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:49.110
And I actually respect you more for saying, I don't
815
00:46:49.150 --> 00:46:53.190
know if it's real, but it's not... It's there for
816
00:46:53.210 --> 00:46:54.550
a reason. I actually.
817
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:55.389
Right.
818
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.030
There is, there is definitely.
819
00:46:57.050 --> 00:47:00.010
And the other thing is, I'm over there lifting weights
820
00:47:00.110 --> 00:47:02.730
and I didn't know that what I was lifting was, was,
821
00:47:02.989 --> 00:47:03.489
was heavy.
822
00:47:04.070 --> 00:47:04.369
Really?
823
00:47:04.489 --> 00:47:09.309
Like my, my, I was maybe 220 when I was
824
00:47:09.369 --> 00:47:12.130
over there in the gym, but I wasn't fat 220.
825
00:47:12.130 --> 00:47:17.159
I was pretty big 220, but, um, like I'm dead
826
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:26.309
lifting like 665 pounds, like doing sets. Yeah. And, like,
827
00:47:26.349 --> 00:47:28.530
everybody tells me, well, that's a lot of weight. How
828
00:47:28.550 --> 00:47:33.440
are you lifting that much? I don't know. And my kid, too,
829
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:38.260
he's the same way. He's five, like, he's 11 years old.
830
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.630
He's 5'4 and goes 120. And he takes his buddies
831
00:47:43.710 --> 00:47:45.230
and lifts them up and throws them on the ground,
832
00:47:45.250 --> 00:47:47.369
body slams them. And it's like, I don't understand how
833
00:47:47.409 --> 00:47:51.630
you do this when you're 11, but, you know. I
834
00:47:51.650 --> 00:47:54.710
don't know whether it's a DNA thing, strength thing. I
835
00:47:55.190 --> 00:47:56.469
have no idea what it is. I don't know if
836
00:47:56.510 --> 00:47:58.539
it's normal. I don't know if it's just my family.
837
00:47:58.860 --> 00:48:01.400
My family's got some good genes or what it is.
838
00:48:01.860 --> 00:48:06.059
I don't think that's normal because like, like a normal
839
00:48:06.099 --> 00:48:09.820
person is dead lifting, you know, like an average gym goer,
840
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.360
maybe 200 pounds, you know? So that is like elite
841
00:48:14.380 --> 00:48:17.909
status that you're, you're talking about there. There is something.
842
00:48:18.030 --> 00:48:20.690
I was doing sets of six. I did three, Three
843
00:48:20.730 --> 00:48:24.489
sets of six at 665. I never found out what
844
00:48:24.530 --> 00:48:25.230
my max was.
845
00:48:27.489 --> 00:48:31.469
Did you ever, and I'm just like, wow, okay. Did
846
00:48:31.590 --> 00:48:35.389
you ever attempt, were you going to the gym before
847
00:48:35.570 --> 00:48:36.920
you went overseas?
848
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:38.380
Never.
849
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.460
I never started going to the gym before I went overseas.
850
00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:46.940
I did not take any supplements except for a pre-workout
851
00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:53.059
and a post-workout drink. I never drank protein shakes. I
852
00:48:53.500 --> 00:48:57.820
never did any of it. I ate like six times
853
00:48:57.880 --> 00:48:58.099
a day.
854
00:48:58.119 --> 00:48:58.960
Oh, geez.
855
00:48:59.059 --> 00:48:59.559
A lot.
856
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:05.199
So here's another instance, too. I'm pretty sure they tried
857
00:49:05.219 --> 00:49:09.820
to kill me in Colorado. So I had just come
858
00:49:09.860 --> 00:49:12.659
home from overseas, and I went to Colorado, and I
859
00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:15.320
was staying with this girl that I met that I
860
00:49:15.469 --> 00:49:21.739
knew high school and grade school. And, uh, um, I
861
00:49:21.780 --> 00:49:23.679
went to a bar out there. I was on my motorcycle.
862
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:26.519
I had a, I had a 2008 ZX10. So, I mean,
863
00:49:26.539 --> 00:49:30.849
like I had a sport bike and I wore a
864
00:49:30.869 --> 00:49:34.630
helmet all the time, wore gear all the time. Lucky
865
00:49:35.510 --> 00:49:37.489
because I went to this bar and And I didn't
866
00:49:37.510 --> 00:49:39.500
drink a whole lot when I was riding a motorcycle.
867
00:49:39.539 --> 00:49:42.880
I had two drinks. I walked out and I don't
868
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.960
even remember putting my helmet on. And the next thing
869
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.480
I remember is sitting on the curb with my helmet
870
00:49:48.659 --> 00:49:51.909
off and the police and EMS and everything else. So
871
00:49:51.969 --> 00:49:55.269
I had been out for at least 20 minutes. And
872
00:49:55.289 --> 00:49:59.010
I don't remember how I got on the curb or anything.
873
00:49:59.630 --> 00:50:06.559
And supposedly toxicology because they didn't give me a breathalyzer.
874
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.050
Toxicology said I blew up or toxicology said my blood
875
00:50:10.110 --> 00:50:12.969
alcohol was a 0.18 when I'd had two drinks.
876
00:50:13.150 --> 00:50:18.530
Okay. So it sounded like someone was, was drugging you
877
00:50:18.650 --> 00:50:19.829
or something along that line.
878
00:50:21.389 --> 00:50:23.869
Something along those lines is all I can think. But I,
879
00:50:24.070 --> 00:50:26.809
like I said, I can't prove it. If I hadn't
880
00:50:26.869 --> 00:50:29.130
had a helmet on, I, that was, if I hadn't
881
00:50:29.150 --> 00:50:30.769
had a helmet on that doctor told me, he's like,
882
00:50:30.829 --> 00:50:32.139
if you hadn't had a helmet on, you'd be dead.
883
00:50:33.550 --> 00:50:33.869
Flat out.
884
00:50:34.090 --> 00:50:34.389
Okay.
885
00:50:35.170 --> 00:50:37.349
Less than 20 mile an hour crash. I landed right
886
00:50:37.389 --> 00:50:39.210
on the back of my head, and you could see
887
00:50:39.269 --> 00:50:41.050
on the helmet where I hit the back of my head,
888
00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:45.139
and then my head went to the side and scratched
889
00:50:45.179 --> 00:50:46.139
down the side of my helmet.
890
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:49.460
Wow.
891
00:50:50.219 --> 00:50:50.519
Okay.
892
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:54.239
Now, when you were working with this company, what was
893
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:55.639
this company that was BAE, you said?
894
00:50:56.860 --> 00:51:01.679
BAE, British Aerospace Engineering. Okay. They're huge.
895
00:51:01.739 --> 00:51:01.840
Okay.
896
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:03.199
Yes.
897
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:05.800
And so when you started to work with BAE, were
898
00:51:05.860 --> 00:51:10.739
you doing anything? Did they do any shots? Did they
899
00:51:10.820 --> 00:51:14.909
do any blood work or anything like that as well?
900
00:51:15.510 --> 00:51:20.230
That was all through CRC. All your vaccinations and everything
901
00:51:20.849 --> 00:51:25.849
for BAE systems and DOD went through a pre-deployment center.
902
00:51:25.969 --> 00:51:28.110
They gave them all to you.
903
00:51:28.130 --> 00:51:28.389
Okay.
904
00:51:28.869 --> 00:51:29.090
Now.
905
00:51:30.070 --> 00:51:33.949
And how did you transfer from BAE to the other division,
906
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.480
to that other company? Like, how did that happen? So
907
00:51:36.500 --> 00:51:37.639
BAE was the last.
908
00:51:37.460 --> 00:51:41.900
Company that I worked for. So DOD Red River, that
909
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:46.099
was the contract right before my last contract. So I
910
00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:48.019
was only with three different companies over there and I
911
00:51:48.059 --> 00:51:54.429
stayed with British Aerospace quite a bit longer than anybody else.
912
00:51:57.369 --> 00:52:02.289
I actually got, asked to go to afghanistan by my
913
00:52:02.349 --> 00:52:06.289
theater lead because i was the last one in iraq
914
00:52:06.809 --> 00:52:08.590
i got asked if i want if i if i
915
00:52:08.849 --> 00:52:11.530
could go to afghanistan and find these 13 trucks that
916
00:52:11.550 --> 00:52:17.449
they were missing um and went over went over to
917
00:52:17.510 --> 00:52:20.869
afghanistan first on the socom project so i was working
918
00:52:20.909 --> 00:52:25.610
on socom uh i was in katmontron in baghram which
919
00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:29.300
is the special forces base in baghram for about two
920
00:52:29.340 --> 00:52:32.800
months there. Nothing really special happened there, but then I
921
00:52:32.820 --> 00:52:37.190
got transferred back to TACOM's side and moved to Kandahar
922
00:52:37.570 --> 00:52:39.909
to try to find these 13 trucks that they couldn't
923
00:52:39.969 --> 00:52:43.469
find because the FSR before them had just took off
924
00:52:43.510 --> 00:52:44.090
and done whatever.
925
00:52:44.110 --> 00:52:49.880
And SOCOM is like Special Operations Command, correct?
926
00:52:49.900 --> 00:52:55.340
Yep, Special Operations Command is SOCOM, yep. So they got
927
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.360
a lot of cool stuff, a lot of cool toys.
928
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.510
Okay, so, yeah, so when you're talking about all this
929
00:53:00.610 --> 00:53:04.130
clearance and everything, when you're talking about all this clearance,
930
00:53:04.670 --> 00:53:08.630
you know, and this top secret or the secret level,
931
00:53:11.150 --> 00:53:12.909
you've got some credence to it. You know, like there
932
00:53:12.969 --> 00:53:17.429
is some backing. You're working on these sites that have these,
933
00:53:18.219 --> 00:53:23.039
you know, while you're working in special operations. Wow, okay.
934
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:24.239
Okay, now.
935
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:24.880
Not for.
936
00:53:24.900 --> 00:53:28.719
That was only for about two months, but... Two months?
937
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:32.059
Hey, two months longer than most of the world out there.
938
00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:35.260
We talked back and forth because everybody... Like, when you're
939
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.340
working with SOCOM, you have to have the ability to
940
00:53:38.380 --> 00:53:41.420
get a truck up now. Like, it has to go now.
941
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.400
It can't wait. It's got to go now. If it
942
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.019
needs to go on mission, it needs to go now.
943
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.699
So it needs to be fixed. And so TACOM and
944
00:53:48.739 --> 00:53:52.880
SOCOM reps would talk to each other because TACOM reps were...
945
00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:56.489
actually had more availability for parts and stuff like that
946
00:53:56.829 --> 00:53:59.550
okay um because it was a bigger group and we
947
00:53:59.570 --> 00:54:01.969
could we could go talk to some of these some
948
00:54:01.989 --> 00:54:04.429
of these motor pools civilian motor pools that would work
949
00:54:04.510 --> 00:54:07.210
on the same stuff and see if they had a
950
00:54:07.230 --> 00:54:08.889
stock on the parts and be able to grab the
951
00:54:08.909 --> 00:54:10.989
part for the military and fix their truck and get
952
00:54:11.030 --> 00:54:13.340
it get it going for them so like you just
953
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:14.860
had to be able to you had to be able
954
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:25.199
to uh um what do you call it um you
955
00:54:25.219 --> 00:54:28.969
had to be able to interact with everybody you could
956
00:54:29.170 --> 00:54:35.750
just so you could get stuff done. So, yeah, when
957
00:54:35.769 --> 00:54:38.730
I went to, I went to Afghanistan, I had seven
958
00:54:38.769 --> 00:54:40.840
different sites. I had to, I had to take care
959
00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:42.960
of seven different sites once I found all those trucks.
960
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:49.360
Holy cow. Now, is there, I want you to take
961
00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:52.429
your time and think about this. Was during these times
962
00:54:52.550 --> 00:54:58.010
in Iraq, or in Afghanistan, was there any other memories
963
00:54:58.110 --> 00:55:00.510
that you are questioning, such as like this one where
964
00:55:00.550 --> 00:55:02.900
you're like, okay, did I actually see this woman turn
965
00:55:02.940 --> 00:55:10.219
into a werewolf? Was there any memories and or dreams
966
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.380
that stood out to you? And you're like, that was
967
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:13.679
really quite peculiar.
968
00:55:13.699 --> 00:55:19.329
So I have a lot of memories of battle damaged trucks,
969
00:55:22.369 --> 00:55:28.000
that military asked me to look at before they were
970
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:36.340
necessarily cleaned after an incident. So we are not, as civilians,
971
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:43.230
we are not required or allowed to look at vehicles
972
00:55:43.329 --> 00:55:47.210
before they're cleaned up after an incident outside the wire.
973
00:55:48.610 --> 00:55:51.699
I have memories of looking at these trucks before they're
974
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.969
cleaned up. But like I said, I don't know if
975
00:55:55.010 --> 00:55:57.929
they're real or not, whether they're made up. I don't,
976
00:55:58.150 --> 00:56:02.110
it's like a movie running through my head. So it just,
977
00:56:03.889 --> 00:56:06.139
it must've been pretty, so many memories I have of
978
00:56:06.260 --> 00:56:08.260
over there that, that I just, I don't know if
979
00:56:08.300 --> 00:56:11.320
they're real because they just seem so fantastical. You know
980
00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:11.699
what I mean?
981
00:56:12.699 --> 00:56:15.639
And okay. So, so these, these vehicles that they brought back,
982
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.000
they must've been pretty horrific after some, some incidences.
983
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:25.719
Blown up with, stuff inside yeah yeah.
984
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:31.449
Okay and what other and i maybe that's a little
985
00:56:31.570 --> 00:56:33.650
touchy we don't want to go on that one anymore
986
00:56:34.449 --> 00:56:37.929
but what it brings back some memories yeah yeah exactly
987
00:56:38.030 --> 00:56:40.489
exactly let's uh let's backpedal a little bit on that
988
00:56:40.570 --> 00:56:43.210
one but you said there were some other fantastical memories
989
00:56:43.349 --> 00:56:46.190
is there anything else that you and it could be
990
00:56:46.369 --> 00:56:51.130
just on the edge anything that uh seemed outrageous and
991
00:56:51.150 --> 00:56:53.349
you're like okay did that really happen am i remembering
992
00:56:53.369 --> 00:56:55.030
that correctly is there anything.
993
00:56:55.130 --> 00:56:58.840
So handler asked me one time he says uh you
994
00:56:58.860 --> 00:57:00.500
lost your watch didn't you and he goes and i
995
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.139
go well yeah he goes yeah we made sure he
996
00:57:03.179 --> 00:57:09.610
got another one and i did lose my watch supposedly
997
00:57:09.619 --> 00:57:12.550
because you don't need a phone over there the only
998
00:57:12.570 --> 00:57:15.190
way to track somebody is to have something that you
999
00:57:15.309 --> 00:57:18.130
know tracking them that they have all the time. Well,
1000
00:57:18.150 --> 00:57:19.869
I always had a watch on because I always had
1001
00:57:19.889 --> 00:57:23.090
to know what time it was. Okay. I never carried
1002
00:57:23.130 --> 00:57:25.179
a phone because you don't need a phone. If you
1003
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.239
call him back to the States, it's $ 4 and 50
1004
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:33.199
cents a minute. So you ain't doing that. And the
1005
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.239
only thing I had on my person at all times
1006
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:39.409
was a watch. I took it off and, uh, I
1007
00:57:39.429 --> 00:57:41.730
can't remember where I was at. I wasn't on my
1008
00:57:41.769 --> 00:57:44.460
normal base. I took it off in the bathroom or something.
1009
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.039
I was taking a shower and I forgot it and
1010
00:57:46.059 --> 00:57:47.739
then went back to go get it and it was gone.
1011
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:49.260
That shit.
1012
00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:53.039
So, and, and your handler, your friend or your handler,
1013
00:57:54.070 --> 00:57:56.710
he's not there on base with you. He's, he's back.
1014
00:57:56.829 --> 00:57:58.010
No, he's in the United States.
1015
00:57:59.170 --> 00:58:04.130
And how, so are you, when he says that to you, um,
1016
00:58:04.550 --> 00:58:05.760
are you talking to him on the, like, I know
1017
00:58:05.780 --> 00:58:07.260
you said it's expensive to call. Are you talking to
1018
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:08.019
him on the phone?
1019
00:58:08.059 --> 00:58:09.760
This is when I got back. This is when I
1020
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:10.239
got back.
1021
00:58:10.300 --> 00:58:10.880
Okay. Okay.
1022
00:58:12.260 --> 00:58:14.250
He just came out of the blue with it about
1023
00:58:14.269 --> 00:58:19.130
the watch. I didn't even say anything about it. He just,
1024
00:58:19.289 --> 00:58:20.079
he came off with it.
1025
00:58:20.130 --> 00:58:26.059
That's so crazy. Has there been anything else? Yeah, go ahead, sorry.
1026
00:58:27.019 --> 00:58:32.900
I got a contract offer from a company called IPAWS. I-P-A-W-S. Okay.
1027
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.010
It's a acronym for something. I can't remember what it was,
1028
00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:42.809
but basically the contract was fixing agency vehicles in their
1029
00:58:42.929 --> 00:58:47.489
own base in downtown Baghdad. Okay. And I declined that
1030
00:58:47.610 --> 00:58:53.300
one and went over to Afghanistan. And if I'd have
1031
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.699
taken that contract for the agency, you probably wouldn't be
1032
00:58:58.739 --> 00:59:02.519
talking to me right now. Crazy. Okay.
1033
00:59:03.780 --> 00:59:08.039
And has your handler said anything else? You said that
1034
00:59:08.809 --> 00:59:12.170
your wife, at first she was like I don't believe
1035
00:59:12.210 --> 00:59:14.239
you almost in a way or she didn't believe what
1036
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.690
you were saying.
1037
00:59:16.429 --> 00:59:19.960
She thought I was just coming up with make believe.
1038
00:59:19.659 --> 00:59:23.760
Stuff and then it was your handler that kind of
1039
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:27.320
clued her in I was.
1040
00:59:27.260 --> 00:59:30.840
Over there talking to him and she's flat-out asked him
1041
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.679
what was going on, and he got a flat-out answer.
1042
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:35.300
Really?
1043
00:59:37.780 --> 00:59:38.980
And was totally surprised.
1044
00:59:39.610 --> 00:59:42.989
Do you feel that he's crossing the line by actually,
1045
00:59:43.489 --> 00:59:46.449
you know, being open with you on that one? Not
1046
00:59:46.510 --> 00:59:48.610
with you, crossing the line with you, but I mean, like, crossing,
1047
00:59:49.070 --> 00:59:55.300
you know, like, just letting you know Allowing you to
1048
00:59:55.340 --> 00:59:58.880
know that he is who he is, do you think
1049
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.239
that's putting him in danger at all?
1050
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:01.760
I don't think.
1051
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.280
Honestly, I don't think it's going to get him any
1052
01:00:05.340 --> 01:00:08.960
hot water because I'm pretty sure he's got another... He's
1053
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:12.619
not necessarily my handler anymore, but he used to be.
1054
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.610
I still talk to him, and I don't think he's...
1055
01:00:18.429 --> 01:00:24.059
I don't think he's... I don't think he really understands
1056
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.159
or knows everything about what's going on. I think that
1057
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:29.429
it was kind of compartmentalized, if you know what I'm
1058
01:00:29.469 --> 01:00:33.429
talking about. So he'd only have access to certain things,
1059
01:00:33.730 --> 01:00:35.769
so he doesn't have knowledge on everything that went on.
1060
01:00:36.050 --> 01:00:39.030
But he was responsible for knowing where I was at
1061
01:00:39.110 --> 01:00:42.670
and keeping me level. Okay. You know what I mean?
1062
01:00:42.849 --> 01:00:43.030
Yeah.
1063
01:00:43.429 --> 01:00:46.840
So if something would happen in my life, he would
1064
01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:50.159
be the first person I would call. And that was,
1065
01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:52.539
that was the case for the longest time because he
1066
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.570
was considered my best friend for a long time and
1067
01:00:58.250 --> 01:01:01.510
took advantage of it. And, you know, so if he's
1068
01:01:01.530 --> 01:01:03.090
the person I'm going to call, he's going to be
1069
01:01:03.130 --> 01:01:05.530
able to be keeping me level regardless of whether he
1070
01:01:05.550 --> 01:01:09.909
knows what's going on in the background or not. But
1071
01:01:09.929 --> 01:01:12.289
he had clearance to know whatever, you know, I'm pretty
1072
01:01:12.309 --> 01:01:15.760
sure he had clearance to know everything about everything. But
1073
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.369
so this is my question to him and I'd, he'll
1074
01:01:19.429 --> 01:01:22.250
never answer it so I've never asked it my question
1075
01:01:22.269 --> 01:01:24.449
to him would be what did you have me do
1076
01:01:24.550 --> 01:01:28.750
over there that I don't remember what did you have
1077
01:01:28.769 --> 01:01:30.969
me do over there where you had to cancel you
1078
01:01:31.010 --> 01:01:34.820
had to clear my memory or whatever or you thought
1079
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.679
you had to kill me in Colorado what did I
1080
01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:41.559
do that what did I do that I don't.
1081
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:44.179
Remember okay so or.
1082
01:01:44.139 --> 01:01:46.099
What did I see that I don't remember that I
1083
01:01:46.139 --> 01:01:49.320
shouldn't have saw you know what I mean Those are
1084
01:01:49.340 --> 01:01:51.139
the questions that are in my head that I just
1085
01:01:51.179 --> 01:01:54.980
can't get over because I can't find the answers to
1086
01:01:55.019 --> 01:01:55.860
those two questions.
1087
01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:57.179
Fair enough.
1088
01:01:57.909 --> 01:01:58.300
Fair enough.
1089
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.320
Well, Rich, is there anything we want to touch on
1090
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:04.789
before we wrap this up for tonight?
1091
01:02:05.909 --> 01:02:09.269
I don't know. There's a whole lot of weirdness going
1092
01:02:09.349 --> 01:02:12.389
on there, so hopefully. I know.
1093
01:02:12.409 --> 01:02:14.550
I think there's a lot to unwind, and I almost
1094
01:02:14.610 --> 01:02:18.000
feel that, you know, after getting this out, like just
1095
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.900
sitting here and having this conversation, I almost feel that
1096
01:02:21.260 --> 01:02:24.119
it might loosen or break some things up that perhaps
1097
01:02:24.179 --> 01:02:27.619
in the future you might, it might release something. Have
1098
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.219
you ever considered, and this might be more of a
1099
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:33.179
shock is a hypnotic regression.
1100
01:02:34.340 --> 01:02:36.960
I have, and I won't do it. And one of
1101
01:02:36.980 --> 01:02:40.369
the reasons I won't do it is because with hypnotic regression,
1102
01:02:40.570 --> 01:02:43.510
you're not always getting a true reading. You may be
1103
01:02:43.550 --> 01:02:47.320
getting a reading off of what you, what, you have thought.
1104
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:50.480
So if you've thought on a subject for a long time,
1105
01:02:50.659 --> 01:02:53.760
your brain will still tell you subconsciously that that's what's
1106
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:58.559
going on. So that might actually ring into your hypnotic regression.
1107
01:02:58.699 --> 01:03:03.900
So if you've went over a situation so many times
1108
01:03:03.980 --> 01:03:05.900
in your head, you're going to believe that that situation
1109
01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:11.989
is correct. Regardless of how you look at it, If
1110
01:03:12.030 --> 01:03:14.429
you go into hypnotic regression, you're still going to think
1111
01:03:14.449 --> 01:03:16.619
that that is real because it feels real because you've
1112
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.639
thought about it so much. That's how people beat polygraphs.
1113
01:03:22.219 --> 01:03:30.030
This is how people beat polygraphs. They repeat something so
1114
01:03:30.070 --> 01:03:33.650
many times that it's actual belief so that their heart
1115
01:03:33.690 --> 01:03:36.309
rate doesn't change, their eyes don't change, nothing changes about
1116
01:03:36.329 --> 01:03:39.670
that person when they say that even though it's not real.
1117
01:03:40.050 --> 01:03:42.510
It's been through their brain so many times that it's
1118
01:03:42.550 --> 01:03:46.070
second nature to say it and believe it. That's how
1119
01:03:46.090 --> 01:03:48.730
you beat that polygraph. They're living a lie. But you
1120
01:03:48.769 --> 01:03:50.429
just got to know what questions they're going to ask.
1121
01:03:51.500 --> 01:03:56.159
Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, Rich, I want to say
1122
01:03:56.179 --> 01:04:00.159
thank you so much for coming on, you know, and telling,
1123
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.179
you know, speaking out for the first time here. Who knows,
1124
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.469
maybe you'll come back again if you have some more
1125
01:04:05.530 --> 01:04:06.409
memories that come back.
1126
01:04:06.429 --> 01:04:06.869
That's up to you.
1127
01:04:08.510 --> 01:04:12.050
For sure, for sure, Rich. I really enjoyed this. You know,
1128
01:04:12.070 --> 01:04:17.289
I feel that, you know, things are coming out all
1129
01:04:17.329 --> 01:04:20.449
different directions, but I want to say thank you for,
1130
01:04:20.949 --> 01:04:22.929
you know, opening up to us and, well, opening up
1131
01:04:22.949 --> 01:04:24.980
to me and trusting me as well with this.
1132
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:30.000
No problem. That was actually enjoyable. First time. I don't know.
1133
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.079
Hopefully it was kind of congruent and people can understand
1134
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:35.019
what I was trying to say.
1135
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.659
We brought you back a couple of times, but nonetheless, yes.
1136
01:04:38.250 --> 01:04:40.369
I think they'll be able to figure this out and
1137
01:04:40.730 --> 01:04:42.949
start to get a bigger picture of what's going on. And,
1138
01:04:43.309 --> 01:04:44.869
you know, what's going on is.
1139
01:04:44.869 --> 01:04:45.869
I'm curious to see the comments.
1140
01:04:46.789 --> 01:04:49.550
Well, what's going on is MKUltra. You know, there definitely
1141
01:04:49.590 --> 01:04:52.969
is some MKUltra. There is some programming in here, which
1142
01:04:53.050 --> 01:04:58.409
is MKUltra. And, you know, could be bloodlines as well.
1143
01:04:58.710 --> 01:04:59.929
You know, DNA bloodlines.
1144
01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:05.960
Programming is easy. Honestly, mental programming is easy. You can...
1145
01:05:07.110 --> 01:05:10.510
And that's brain function is so fascinating. I can, I
1146
01:05:10.550 --> 01:05:12.699
can talk for hours on brain function. I guess one
1147
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.679
of my favorite things to learn about, but like it's,
1148
01:05:15.980 --> 01:05:18.940
it's one of these days, one of these days humans
1149
01:05:18.980 --> 01:05:20.420
are going to be able to fix themselves. They ain't
1150
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:21.219
going to need doctors.
1151
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.610
Yeah. 100%. All right, Rich. Thank you so much. I
1152
01:05:25.650 --> 01:05:26.690
really appreciated this.
1153
01:05:28.269 --> 01:05:29.250
Yeah, no problem, man.
1154
01:05:29.650 --> 01:05:30.550
You take care. All right.
1155
01:05:30.650 --> 01:05:32.650
I can chat. I can chat for hours. That's one
1156
01:05:32.670 --> 01:05:33.409
thing I'm good at.
1157
01:05:33.929 --> 01:05:35.710
No problems. You take care. Okay, Rich.
1158
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:37.739
You too. Thank you.
1159
01:05:38.539 --> 01:05:44.480
Everyone, Rich with some, I don't know, where did we go?
1160
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:46.119
Targeted individual?
1161
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:48.639
I don't really think it sits there. You know, MKUltra
1162
01:05:49.019 --> 01:05:52.800
sits more along that line, sits more along the line of,
1163
01:05:53.260 --> 01:05:55.610
could be bloodlines, it could be something. There were some
1164
01:05:55.630 --> 01:06:02.050
changes that were happening to him, physical and mental changes
1165
01:06:02.150 --> 01:06:08.019
as well, especially after coming back from Iraq. I think
1166
01:06:08.179 --> 01:06:10.820
something when they, I'm on the line that, you know,
1167
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:14.050
when they took his blood, they saw some sort of marker.
1168
01:06:15.030 --> 01:06:19.769
And yeah, come on, come on down. And things happened.
1169
01:06:20.510 --> 01:06:23.329
I think that happens more often than not. We just
1170
01:06:23.349 --> 01:06:26.460
got to be careful. And I think that's about it
1171
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.199
for today, everyone. So until next time, keep your curiosity wandering,
1172
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:33.760
keep the light lit, and always find your way home.
1173
01:06:45.139 --> 01:06:51.579
Beneath the stars where shadows grow The Nephilim's echoes whisper
1174
01:06:51.659 --> 01:06:59.320
low Bigfoot roams through the forest deep And Dogman prowls
1175
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:01.139
where the brave won't sleep.
1176
01:07:02.659 --> 01:07:08.190
Across lost history we wonder why Seeking the truth that
1177
01:07:08.309 --> 01:07:13.190
time tried to hide Keep your curiosities wandering in the
1178
01:07:13.230 --> 01:07:17.090
light lit Through the darkness, don't ever quit In the codex,
1179
01:07:17.309 --> 01:07:19.170
the mystery's coming.
1180
01:07:18.849 --> 01:07:31.650
Always find your way back.
1181
01:07:28.820 --> 01:07:30.380
Home UFOs streak.
1182
01:07:30.099 --> 01:07:36.000
Through the velvet skies Aliens watch with unblinking eyes.
1183
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:43.139
The paranormal homes where silence breaks. In the void of secrets,
1184
01:07:43.300 --> 01:07:44.420
a lantern wakes.
1185
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:51.719
Through hidden realms of stories untold. The cold gas flame
1186
01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:56.699
is the light to hold. Keep your curiosities wandering in
1187
01:07:56.739 --> 01:07:57.510
the light lit.
1188
01:07:57.670 --> 01:08:01.190
Through the darkness, don't ever quit. In the codex, the
1189
01:08:01.210 --> 01:08:02.630
mystery's coming out.
1190
01:08:12.659 --> 01:08:18.159
Some UFO streak through the velvet skies Aliens watch.
1191
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:24.260
With unblinking eyes The paranormal homes where silence breaks.
1192
01:08:25.539 --> 01:08:30.470
In the void of secrets a lantern wakes Through hidden
1193
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:36.130
realms and stories untold The Kogast flame is a light
1194
01:08:36.170 --> 01:08:41.170
to hold Keep your curiosities wandering in the light lit.
1195
01:08:41.270 --> 01:08:43.010
Through the darkness, don't ever quit.
1196
01:08:43.529 --> 01:08:47.289
In the Codex, the mystery's coming. Always find your way
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01:08:47.329 --> 01:08:55.960
back home.
1198
01:08:56.100 --> 01:09:01.699
Legends rise from the Earth's deep core. A lost legacy
1199
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:06.479
we can't ignore With every step, the.
1200
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:13.619
Veil grows thin Revealing worlds where the strange begins Keep
1201
01:09:13.659 --> 01:09:17.000
your curiosities wandering in the light lit Through the darkness,
1202
01:09:17.060 --> 01:09:20.819
don't ever quit In the codex, the mysteries come And
1203
01:09:21.050 --> 01:09:22.729
always find your way back.
1204
01:09:23.109 --> 01:09:24.750
Home From giant cryptids that.
1205
01:09:24.649 --> 01:09:29.550
Call Aliens histories will uncover it all.
1206
01:09:30.909 --> 01:09:35.229
With why the codec out, we'll never be alone. Together,
1207
01:09:35.270 --> 01:09:37.689
we'll always find our way home.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:42.659
Oh, oh, oh.
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01:09:43.060 --> 01:09:44.619
Oh, oh, oh.