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Join us for the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's 55th Annual
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It's August 30th, and on today's program, Alexandra Icamoni talks
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to the founders of the ATL Labor Day Classics, Devon
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Baker and Jerry Freeman, as they get ready for September
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5th when Morehouse takes on Clark Atlanta University. Next month,
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health care providers are teaming up for one mission, aiming
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to save lives in the fight against prostate cancer. Katie
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Gray reports. Next, a Nashville mom watched her son's eyes
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every morning for a sign that no test could give
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her yet.
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Dr.
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Lemaitre Scott and pediatric hematologist Dr. Hadar Frangel talked to
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Esther Dillard about the game editing therapy that's giving families
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a real shot at a cure for sickle cell disease.
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And this almost never happens, but lightning struck twice, killing
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the mother and her toddler. In a BIN exclusive, senior
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anchor Vanessa Tyler speaks with the father who was right
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there when it happened. And Doug Davis is back with
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part two of his conversation with Complex Magazine's new vice
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president of brand partnership, Mike Tresvin, as the two continue
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talking about branding, the emergence of AI in media, and
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how attending an HBCU provided him the necessary tools to
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make it big in the world of media advertising and branding.
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These stories are coming your way on today's program. Welcome
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to The Black Perspective. I'm your host, Mike Island.
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Welcome to The Black Perspective, a weekly community affairs program
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on the Black Information Network, featuring interviews and discussions on
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issues important to the black community.
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Good Sunday and welcome to The Black Perspective. The historic
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rivalry between Morehouse College and Clark Atlanta University is bringing
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people from all over the country to watch.
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It go down.
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But now the ATL Labor Day Classics is a part
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of the mix. The Black Information Network's Alexandria Ikemoni spoke
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to the co-founders.
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What's up, guys?
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It's your girl, Alexandria Ikemoni. In the studio, iHeartRadio with founders, co-founders,
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Devon Baker.
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Yes, ma'am.
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How are you today?
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I'm awesome.
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How are you doing?
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Doing well, thank you. And we also have Jerry Freeman
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in the building.
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How are you?
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I'm good.
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I'm great. Fantastic. Glad to be here.
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We're happy to have you. Great things are coming. I
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know we're almost into September right now. September 5th, a
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fun event is coming our way. You guys are the
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co-founders of that event. Tell us more about it.
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Absolutely.
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It's the ATL Labor Day Classic happening September 5th, as
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you said, at BT Harvey Stadium at 1 p.m.
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At Morehouse College.
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And that's an HBCU football game between Morehouse College and
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Clark Atlanta University. They play every year. They rotate home fields.
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This year is at Morehouse University. And they've been playing
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since about 1900. But this is special because we moved
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that game up from the end of the season to
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the beginning of the season. Home opener, Labor Day weekend,
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that hopeful beginning of season energy. So we're looking forward
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to a great time and all the events that are
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around the Classic.
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Now, tell me more about the events, because this is
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a new HBCU tradition. It's the inaugural Labor Day Classic.
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What exactly is it? What can people expect that's different
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than the traditional or normal, you know, game against the rivals?
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Well, we have three experiences. Yes.
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The first experience is just the general admission game experience
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in the stadium, watching the game and enjoying that. Then
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the next level of the experience is. It's what we
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call our fan zone fan fest area where we have
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DTLR and other people that sponsors out there with live entertainment, DJs,
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all those things happening out there. It's going to be
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a great time. And then we have. The VIP experience
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that's on the bluff or the hill overlooking the stadium
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and includes all three things. So you have the VIP
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experience where you have the lounge seating. We have the
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we have a couple of bars out there. So the
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nice cocktail libations. And then you also have, you know, food.
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So you get the whole experience.
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I love that.
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And the experience, you mentioned three different ways. I mean,
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it sounds like it's going to be a great time there.
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But I am just curious, why is Atlanta finally getting
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its own Labor Day classic?
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It's about time, right?
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It is.
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It is.
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And so the time is right right now to do this.
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Like I said, we're moving it forward, wanting people to
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have that classic experience. And I just think the athletic
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departments of the schools saw the opportunity and said, hey,
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let's do it. Let's move it forward. Let's make it
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Labor Day. Let's involve the community. Let's involve the students.
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Let's involve the alums. So we're making it a big deal.
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It's not homecoming, but we like to say it's the
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AUC homecoming. coming because we got Spelman College, Morehouse College,
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Clark Atlanta University and Morris Brown is going to be
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in the house.
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It's going to be a time for sure.
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I think so. I love that.
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Now you're talking about the community involvement, et cetera. Talk
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to me more about the cultural and the economic impact
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that a game like this or an event like this,
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I should say, will have on Atlanta, but specifically that pocket,
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if you will.
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Well, I mean, this is a community driven thing. When
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you think about the AUC, you think about the West End,
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you know, the AUC, Morris Brown, Clark, Atlanta, Spelman, ITC,
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Morehouse School of Medicine. You know, it's just a big
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community and fellowship. And it's all about love.
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So when you think about all those schools, think about
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the community, because you have many people who work at
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those schools, who their kids, grandkids, whomever. Nieces, nephews also
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attend those schools. So it's a great impact, not only
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for the schools, but Atlanta. And I think about it
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like this. The AUC helped create the ATL. Think about
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all of the alums that came from Spelman, Clark Atlanta,
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Morris Brown, who's done great work, not only in Atlanta,
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but also globally. So the AUC helped create the ATL.
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And in fact, 100,000, over 100,000 of those alum from
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the AUC remain in Atlanta.
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So it is the mecca for AUC alum.
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And not only that, it's the number one place where
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HBCU grads come after school.
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So Atlanta is the right stage for this. It makes sense.
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So that's why it's the right time. Absolutely.
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It makes a lot of sense to have this here.
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And you're talking about how we're essentially the hub for this, right?
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So let's talk about the fact of this is the inaugural.
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This is the start.
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What is the vision because of the impact and the
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influence that the culture has here?
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Well, we certainly have this vision of making this a tradition.
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You circle Labor Day on your calendar and you know
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that the ATL Labor Day Classic is happening and you
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know to make your plans to be there. So we
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certainly want that tradition that every year we're coming back.
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We're going to have our reunion. We're going to have
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our friends there. We're going to have the people we
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want to be with. And we're going to party while
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we do the game. You know, I always talk about
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how during homecoming and, you know, some of these big games,
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you're partying so hard at the tailgate, you never even
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make it to the game.
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That's true. People are like, hey, what happened in the game?
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Who won? Rich reminds me.
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Make sure to get your tickets at ATL Labor Day
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Classic dot com. That's ATL Labor Day Classic dot com.
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You always got to put that in.
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But in this game, just to finish that thought, the
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party is during the game. You don't have to choose
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between the game or the good time.
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Right. You can choose your experience, whether it's VIP or
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Fan Fest.
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Do both. Be a VIP. But you party during the game.
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And that's what this is all about.
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Absolutely. Any last words you would like to leave?
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I know you mentioned where people can get tickets, but
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anything else you would like to leave with the listeners?
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Again, it's all about love.
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And it's more than a game.
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It's more than the game.
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Absolutely.
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One more time. Where can people get tickets, the dates?
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And if they're traveling from out of state, I'm sure
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people are interested in coming to. What are the details
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for them?
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Yeah, it's a big weekend. It's Labor Day weekend in Atlanta.
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So a lot will be going on. So there will
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be people coming from out of town. There will be
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all those folks that live here from all of those HBCUs.
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So on September 5th, Labor Day weekend, game day, 1 p.m.
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B.T.
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Harvey Stadium on the Morehouse College campus.
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Get your tickets at ATL Labor. I'm sorry. Let me
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get it right.
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ATL Labor Day Classic dot com. Get your tickets. Come
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to the VIP experience. Come to the fan fest. You'll
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see artists like Zeddy Will, like YK Nisi, like we
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have even an audition trailer for Wildin' Out. Nick Cannon
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is going to be in the house. That's breaking news,
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by the way.
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That's exciting.
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Wait, you got to tell me a little bit more
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about the Nick Cannon. You can't just slide that in
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at the end and not give me more detail. Tell
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me more about Nick Cannon and the Wild N' Out situation.
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That's exactly right. So Wild N' Out is having a
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new season upcoming. Nick Cannon called and said, hey, I
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heard about this Fan Fest. We want to be a
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part of it. We're going to bring our audition trailer
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to the Fan Fest. So if you got lyrics, if
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you can spit, come and try out audition for Wild
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N' Out this season.
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Absolutely.
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Any more surprises that's going to be happening this weekend?
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More to come.
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You got to stay tuned.
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You have to stay tuned. You have to come out, apparently,
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in order to get all the good stuff. So that's
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really exciting. Thank you guys so much for joining me
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in the studio to talk about the classic.
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Thank you for having us.
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Awesome.
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Thank you.
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Once again, Alexandria Ikemoni with co-founder Zavon Baker. and Jerry Freeman.
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Thank you, Alexandria, Devon and Jerry. The ATL Labor Day
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Classics goes down September 5th in Atlanta, Georgia. Now we
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get commentary from James T.
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Harris.
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The opinions, beliefs and viewpoints expressed in this commentary.
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Are I'm James T.
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Harris, and I have something to say.
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Gary, Indiana, 76% black. Mayor, black. City council, all black.
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City clerk, black. The electric company executives, black. The police department,
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57% black. The people shooting at the electric company, black.
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The excellence, black. The blame, according to Don Lemon and Gary, Indiana,
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Mayor Eddie Melton, white. Let that sink in. Every lever
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of power, every seat at the table, every decision maker
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in that city looks like us. Has looked like us
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for years. And Gary still looks like a war zone.
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Still can't keep the lights on. Still got people so
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mad they're shooting at the power company. But somehow, somehow,
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this is still white supremacy's fault. When do we start
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looking in the mirror? When do we stop doing the
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Wakanda pose over a burning city? We got the representation.
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We got the reparations conversations. We got the black excellence hashtags.
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What we don't have is results. What we don't have
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is safe streets. What we don't have is functioning infrastructure,
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but we sure can find someone to blame. This is
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what happens when you prioritize skin color over competence. When
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you celebrate first black everything, but never ask if they're
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actually good at anything. Gary's should be a shining city.
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By their logic, by the logic of the race hustlers,
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this should be paradise. No white man blocking the bridge.
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No systemic racism holding back the electric grid. Just black leadership,
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black power, black failure. But say that out loud and
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watch them come for you. Because the hustle requires a villain.
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Even when the villain left the building decades ago. Even
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when the only people left to blame are staring back
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from the city council photos. So next time you hear
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somebody cry about systemic racism, remember, Gary, remember that system
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is us. The oppression is us. The failure is us.
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And the fix starts when we admit it. I'm James C.
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Harris for the Black Information Network.
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Thanks, James. And stay tuned for commentary from Roland S.
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Martin later on today's show. Every year, about 300 to
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400 people are struck by lightning in the United States.
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Most survive, but 20 to 30 of them are killed
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by lightning, like in the case of a black mother
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and her child. The Black Information Network's Vanessa Tyler has
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the story of a family torn apart by a deadly
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strike from the sky.
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Mike, thanks.
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You know we cover so many tragedies, but this one
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stands out. Picture this, a black family getting out of
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their car last week, rushing into the house because it
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started to rain, when the mother and daughter were struck
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dead by lightning. Hard to believe what happened to 31-year-old
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Kenya Glasgow and her 2-year-old daughter Kennedy. But husband and
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father Cameron Glasgow was there. He saw it and felt it.
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Joining me from Florida is Cameron Glasgow. Cameron, welcome. And
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on behalf of the Black Information Network... Our deepest condolences.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Tell us what happened.
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You had just arrived for family dinner last Sunday at
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an aunt's house in Margate near Fort Lauderdale, and it
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just started to rain?
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We saw the storm coming in, and we just did
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what everybody else would do. One year, just trying to
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get out of the rain before it starts. We got
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out of the car, just started packing the girls up,
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and Started to run and all of a sudden I
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heard a loud boom and I was thrown back from
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the residual voltage from the lightning hitting the ground. And
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once I came to, I looked to my right and
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saw my wife and daughter on the ground. Initially, I
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ran to them and then I could barely run actually
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because my body was still adjusting from the voltage that
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I had received. Initially, I ran to them, and then
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I ran to the house to try to get help
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from the rest of my family. Oh, my God.
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There were reports that there were 200 bolts of lightning
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near Margate last Sunday and five cloud-to-ground strikes within a
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mile of where you guys were. You said you felt it.
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Did you see any lightning coming out of the sky?
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Yeah, on the way there, we definitely did. But, I mean...
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We're so used to seeing things of that nature that
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we didn't think anything of it.
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I know you are worried, especially about Kinsley, because if
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this isn't tragic enough, you and your wife had twins.
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So two-year-old Kinsley is mourning her twin and her mother.
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Yeah, unfortunately, yes. How is she doing?
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I know she's got to be asking for them by now.
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Yeah, she has, and.
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As her father, I've stepped in and just started preparing
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her for what her life is going to be going forward.
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And I mean, we started saying, hey, mommy and sissy
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is in heaven. And we point up to the sky
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and say, hi, mommy and sissy. And we point to
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our hearts and say they're in our hearts as well.
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So we're going to adjust and we're going to make
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the proper things to do. When she starts asking more
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questions for her mom and her sister, we're going to
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make sure that she knows she was loved and Her
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mother and sister would never leave her like this. There
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was not a choice by them. They would never leave her.
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How are you processing this? Many of us, when we
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lose a loved one, we say that's God's will. How
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do you wrap your head around what happened?
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Unfortunately for myself as well, I lost my father three
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years ago. So dealing with grief and battling depression, in
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a way, is something that I've worked through. This year,
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most importantly. And I know that God makes no mistakes,
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but I'm also asking him, like I asked with my father,
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what is it that he wants me to do? And
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what's the big picture here? Because things have changed drastically
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for us in a matter of seconds.
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Tell us a little bit about Kennedy. There's some footage
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I saw of her singing karaoke online.
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Oh my gosh, my live wire. She's the energy. She's
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the energy. She's the one, the mischievous one, the one
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that gets kids where they get into everything. And ironically enough,
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she's the younger one of the two. They're two minutes apart.
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So anytime they were up to some mischief, like going
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in the refrigerator and taking some food out, taking a
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snack out, she'd always say, come on, sissy.
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Come on, come on.
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Get you some too. Get some too. So They were
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two peas in a pod, and she was energy, just
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like her mother, just a ball of joy.
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Like her mother, who was the love of his life.
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They literally grew up together, met in high school.
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Funny story, the day we met, I was actually skipping class,
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and I ended up in her keyboard class with some
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of my buddies. And that's when I pretty much had
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the opportunity to be introduced to her and After that, we,
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ironically enough, ended up in chemistry class and ended up
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having chemistry in chemistry. So that's where it all started.
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I know our listeners would want to help. You have
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set up a GoFundMe. It's titled Love and Support for Kinsley.
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In there, you can see the most beautiful photo of you,
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your wife, and the girls. It just breaks my heart.
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So people can contribute to support Kinsley.
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It's going to be one day at a time, but
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everything that, that is coming is a, is a huge blessing. Um,
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I'm kind of going against how my wife typically moves, but,
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and I was upset with myself initially for setting it
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up because she doesn't, we don't, we, we've never had
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our hand out for help. And my, what my wife, especially,
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although she loves to give help to everyone else, she
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never wanted to receive it back. So we'll process it.
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We'll see what, as time goes on, what she needs and,
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We'll make sure it's used for her and make our
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situation as comfortable as possible and as normal as we
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can make it.
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Oh, there's a lot going on as you prepare for
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the double services. Have the arrangements been made already?
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Yes. The arrangements are set for September 4th and 5th
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here in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. We don't have to go
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through this alone. We can cry together. We understand it.
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massive situation. My heart is completely broken. This is my
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best friend. This is all I know for the past
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15 years of my life. So I just want to
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make sure everybody else has the space to get their
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feelings out as well, because I'm going to get mine out.
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We've seen Cameron Glasgow's immense grief. Soon after it happened
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last week, he gave the most heart-wrenching news conference as
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he stood before reporters and He didn't hold back the tears.
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No one could.
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But I'll be okay because I have to because I
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have another beautiful daughter that's inside there. But for her
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to lose her twin sister, words can't describe that feeling.
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Because I know she can't even fathom it right now
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that she lost her best friend.
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I feel my feelings just like everybody else's. But I
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also know that you have to remain positive. You can't
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look at the negative things. Remain positive and just ask
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God for guidance. So that's what I'm doing now.
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Well, you are definitely in our prayers. Thank you for
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taking the time out to speak with me.
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No problem at all. Thank you.
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Cameron Glasgow, a young Black father dealing with the unimaginable.
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I'm Vanessa Tyler with the Black Perspective on the Black
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Information Network, your home for Black News First. Mike, back
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to you.
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Thank you, Vanessa.
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And again, that GoFundMe, if you would like to help,
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is titled Love and Support for Kinsley Jade. Katie Gray
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talks to the doctors involved in the Race for Paces
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5K as they offer free health care and prostate cancer
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screenings on September 12th.
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So for people who are listening and they have no
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context and they don't understand the drive of this organization
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and even your part and why you are a part
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of it, do you mind speaking on that a little bit?
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Absolutely, Katie. And so ACES as an entity, as an organization,
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has now been around our city for about two and
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a half years. And we kind of came together with
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a collaboration that now involves about 25 other entities, mostly
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clinical entities. that is essentially volunteer-led. And the whole idea
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is to try and give clinical services to people who
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are uninsured in our community, folks who are underinsured, and
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more importantly, the unhoused. And that is a new terminology
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now for the homeless. They're not called homeless anymore. So
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the unhoused in our community that need clinical services, we
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started two and a half years ago at Woodruff Park.
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And we went there with other clinicians, to render those
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services at no cost to them. And these are services
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that was volunteered with people volunteering their time and talent.
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We were overwhelmed.
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We had over 500 men and women and children who
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were unhoused in this space that needed clinical services. So
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we gave blood pressure screening. We did diabetes screening. We
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did cholesterol screening. And we also were able to offer
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prostate cancer screening, the PSA, which is a simple blood
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test that men can have for prostate cancer. In terms
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of screening to find out if they're at risk and
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if they need to have follow-up testing. So for every
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man out there who is over 40 years old, African-American,
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the guideline is that you need to get that simple
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blood test every 12 months. If you're non-African-American, the guideline
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is 50, except if you have a family history of
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a brother, a dad, or an uncle, who was diagnosed
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with prostate cancer before age 65. They need to start
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it a little bit sooner. Simple blood tests that will
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tell whether the PSA, which is a prostate-specific antigen, it's
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a hormone that the body makes, that the prostate makes,
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that goes into the bloodstream. And if it's high, it's
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an indication that we need to do additional testing. A
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lot of men know about the PSA. Some of us don't.
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But the bottom line is that it's not a foolproof test,
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but it's a very, very, very useful tool that helps
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us to tell who needs additional testing. So the whole
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idea behind the PACES is prostate cancer community engagement and
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screenings because prostate cancer, Katie, is the most diagnosed cancer
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in men in America and worldwide.
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The most diagnosed.
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The only cancer that is diagnosed more so than prostate
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cancer is skin cancer, which a lot of folks oftentimes
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don't refer to as a major cancer because it's not
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a major cause of death. But prostate cancer is the
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most diagnosed cancer. So in America this year, there will
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be 300,000 men that will be diagnosed with prostate cancer.
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And of those 300,000, Katie, 35,000 will die from prostate cancer.
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The numbers are large. But the good news, again, this
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is why we're big on it, Katie, is because if
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you diagnose it early, 100% cure it with survival over
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five years is what the data shows.
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Absolutely.
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Just to piggyback off that a little bit, too many
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people in underserved communities are diagnosed with chronic diseases and
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cancers too late. And that's one of our major factors,
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making sure that we can provide that preventative care versus
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reactive care. Another thing I want to piggyback on, in
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the African-American community and the male community period, a lot
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of individuals postpone or delay or avoid getting PSA screenings
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because they're still under the assumption that it's a DRE,
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which is a digital rectal exam. So that allowed, well,
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that caused many individuals to avoid the process, which ended
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up They ended up with prostate cancer or a cancer
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that's too late to be treated or it's just been
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too advanced just because they didn't want to do that process.
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What Dr.
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Akintobe is explaining, we now have a blood test that
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needs to be. plain and simple. It's now a blood test.
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The screening for prostate cancer is now a blood test. Now,
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after that, if those numbers come back elevated, then there
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are other exams that will be performed, whether it's the
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DRE or whatever the case may be. But to get
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the initial screening, it is a blood test that needs
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to be made plain and simple so that men will
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not be afraid. And it's just like any other blood
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exam that you're going to receive. And then ultimately, we
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can avoid these issues where it's a complicated scenario of
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cancer where it could have been easily prevented.
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Well, and it's interesting because it also sounds like a
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big piece of this is trying to add clarity over
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what these processes look like and also how accessible the treatment,
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like the screenings are. That's the two goals, it sounds like.
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So the screening tests, they have come a long way.
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They have changed their processes over the years.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely, yes, it has.
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Let me say very clearly here today that we're probably
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maybe two years or maybe a year to two years
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away from being able to do one blood test that
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might test for multiple cancers. We're not there yet, but
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the technology is moving very rapidly because as we speak now,
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you can do another blood test for colon cancer screening
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that's been FDA approved.
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That's right.
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So just like you can do it for prostate, you
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can do it for colon.
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And guess what?
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There are other cancers now too that you can do
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those blood tests for. We're just waiting for the FDA
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to say, yes, go ahead and start to offer those tests.
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So simplicity, one makes it, and then accessibility, and then affordability.
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Being able to access this test and being able to
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get the testing done and then follow through on what happens.
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But the PSA has given us a tool that makes
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it easy enough to get the testing done. Rapid PSA
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testing means that you come on in and in 12
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minutes on this mobile unit that will be there with
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us on the day of the race, you can get
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your results. within 12 minutes. You don't have to wait
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24 hours or 36 hours or 72 hours to get
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your test results. So the technology is improving on the
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day to make this testing easier and easy to interpret.
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And more importantly, to tell us too that oftentimes when
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something is abnormal with this test.
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It does not mean it's cancer.
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It just means you go on to the next stage
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of evaluation.
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And I think it's important to also state we don't
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just screen people. We actually connect them to health care.
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So whenever we as as a team, as aces, whenever
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we're in the community, whether it's a church, whether it's unhoused, underserved,
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it's truly about the continuity of care. So once we
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do our perform our screenings, whether it's blood pressure, blood glucose,
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colon cancer, colon screenings, PSA. Once we receive those values,
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we don't just allow you to leave and go and
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willy nilly. You just take those numbers and you don't
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know what to do with them. You don't know what
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they mean. You don't know how to interpret them. We
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have a team of individuals that actually interpret your numbers
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and contact you once we have evaluated everything. That's highly
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important so that you aren't just in the community. You
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go to a health fair, you receive some numbers, and
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then it's just like, OK, that's it. No, we ultimately
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connect you to a broader health care system, whether it's
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a specialty, a specialist that you need, a pharmacy that
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you need, anything when it comes to health care.
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That's what ACEs is here for it.
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We have a team of individuals that actually interpret your
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numbers and contact you once we have evaluated everything. That's
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highly important so that you aren't just in the community.
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You go to a health fair, you receive some numbers,
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and then it's just like, OK, that's it.
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No.
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We ultimately connect you to a broader health care system,
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whether it's a specialty, a specialist that you need, a
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pharmacy that you need, anything when it comes to health care.
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That's what ACEs is here for is to provide the
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screenings and then connect you to an ultimate network of physicians, clinicians,
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practitioners that are going to see you obtain the outcomes
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that that will actually improve your life.
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And so if you're listening and you have a primary
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care physician and you're 40 years and over, please ask
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for the PSA test if that hasn't been discussed. Because
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an anal physical, which is a comprehensive checkup, is like
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driving your car to the dealership and say, guess what?
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Please check this thing out. I've been driving this car
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for two years. It's the same thing with the human body.
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Imagine the human body is a machine. And at times
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doing some testing on the inside tells us a lot
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more about our health. Whether it's checking your blood sugar,
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even if you don't know that you might be borderline
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diabetic or pre-diabetic or diabetic. When you do those tests
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early enough, you'll be able to get answers to those questions.
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So that checkup is very important. So if you do
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have a primary care physician, you need to be sure
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that you're getting an animal physical, male, female, whatever age
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or race. However, our group is to provide for those
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who may not have a primary care physician or who
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may not have insurance or who may not have access
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to say that there is another opportunity to be able
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to do that. So our collaboration allows us to do that,
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to be able to provide this for men, create a
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safe space for for them to come out, get the
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testing done, and then almost immediately know the results, and
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then to have the follow-up that is necessary.
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Well, especially when we start talking about a series of
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different tests, there are a lot of people that are
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concerned when it comes to the financial piece to it,
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when you start adding in different types of experts. So
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is part of the initiative also to allow access and
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resources to Also, to try to ease stigmas around the
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financial burden.
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That is correct.
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Katie, you bring up a very, very, very valid point.
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And people out there listening understand what we're talking about
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when we talk about the fact that.
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Another thing I want to piggyback on an African-American community
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and male community, period. a lot of individuals postpone or
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delay or avoid getting PSA screenings because they're still under
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the assumption that it's a DRE, which is a digital
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rectal exam. So that allowed, well, that caused many individuals
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to avoid the process, which ended up, they ended up
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with prostate cancer or a cancer that's too late to
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be treated, or it's just been too advanced just because
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they didn't want to do that process.
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What Dr.
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Akintobe is explaining, we now have a blood test. That
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needs to be plain and simple. It's now a blood test.
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The screening for prostate cancer is now a blood test. Now,
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after that, if those numbers come back elevated, then there
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are other exams that will be performed, whether it's the
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DRE or whatever the case may be. But to get
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the initial screening, it is a blood test that needs
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to be made plain and simple so that men will
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not be afraid. And it's just like any other blood
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exam that you're going to receive. And then ultimately, we
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can avoid these issues where it's a complicated scenario of
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cancer where it could have been easily prevented.
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Well, and even just looking at data over the last
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couple of years, One part of the big conversation is
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that people are noticing that we are having an increase
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in the number of people that have been diagnosed with cancer.
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But with that same statistic said, more people seem to
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be surviving it because earlier detection.
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Katie, you raise a very valid point.
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It is 3 million survivors in America today, cancer survivors,
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3 million. That is bigger than the size of some countries.
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Three million cancer survivors in America today. And so, yes,
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this needs to be celebrated because it means that the
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technology is now available. The key is early diagnosis. When
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you are able to pick this thing up very, very early,
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and you know that cancer, whatever the type, is staged
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from stage one to stage four. Stage four is when
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it's really, really, really bad. Stage one is early stage,
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meaning it's just beginning. If you nip it in the bud,
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you move on with your life. Any form of cancer.
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So 3 million, over 3 million cancer survivors in America today.
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So it's a whole huge population. And we're hoping, of course,
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to see men and women who are prostate cancer survivors
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and breast cancer survivors. I have tons of them in
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my practice who are willing to tell their story, to
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know that men can see them and understand that there
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is life after that diagnosis. Yes, there are always concerns about, okay,
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how do you navigate all of that when you're a survivor?
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People now live 5, 10, 20, 25, 30 years after
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their diagnosis. So there's no question to your point. We're
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diagnosing more, but many more are surviving as well. And
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so when you look at the number, and we say
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that for prostate cancer specifically, 300,000 new diagnoses every year,
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and about 10% will die from prostate cancer. We're saying
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that that number needs to be much less if the
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diagnosis is early. And that's exactly the point. Let's push
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prostate cancer survivorship. Let's push those screening tools. Make it affordable.
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Make it accessible. And let's simplify it every way we can.
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And I think with the technology improving every single day, we're.
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Very close now, Katie. Mark this word.
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We're very close to where we can say you do
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a simple blood test and it can test for multiple cancers.
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Well, OK, so let's talk about September. Let's talk about
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the 5K.
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Absolutely.
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So September, September the 12th, 2026, ACES is hosting our
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first inaugural race, Race for Paces, Prostate Cancer Awareness and Education.
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It is once again, September the 12th, 2026. It will
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be hosted at the West Side Beltline Center.
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Dr.
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Akintobi and I have ran that a couple different times.
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It is a beautiful course, very flat, good for anybody
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who's a beginning runner or an advanced runner. We're actually
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hosting a 5K, a 10K. You can walk, you can run,
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either one. We just want any and everybody to come
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out to this race to support. especially if you are
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a survivor of prostate cancer. We have discounts for you all.
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For any students who want to participate who are in college,
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we have discounts for you all as well. All you
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have to do is register today at www.a2aces.org. That's a2aces. org.
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You can also go to Run Sign Up where you
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can look for our race, which is Race for Paces.
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That's p.a.c.e.s.
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And you will be able to find our race on
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that site as well. Feel free to donate if you
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can't actually run on that day. But at the end
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of the day, we're just looking for support because ultimately
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we want to increase our scope where we can actually
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provide more prostate cancer screenings and potentially go into some
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other cancer screenings in the future. But ultimately, right now,
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we're focused on prostate cancer as our inaugural race. And ultimately,
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we want to show out. So we hope to see
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you there.
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Thanks, Katie and the Race for Paces 5K team. The
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Race for Paces 5K goes down September 12th at the
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ATL Beltline. Now we get commentary from Roland S.
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Martin.
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The opinions, beliefs, and viewpoints expressed in this commentary are
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those of the author and do not necessarily represent those
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of BIN and its founding partners and employees. Now it's
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time to bring the funk with Roland S.
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Martin.
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A number of suspicious deaths, including African-Americans, found hanging in
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a number of southern states has caught the attention of
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the Legal Defense Fund. Janae Nelson, the executive director at
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council who leads the organization, says that they sent a
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series of letters to members of Congress and the United
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Nations demanding an investigation. Many people have suggested that at
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foul plays at play because African-Americans typically don't hang themselves
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when they commit suicide.
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It isn't common.
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I mean, what it all harkens back to is, as
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I said, one of the worst periods of our history
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from 1877 to 1950, where 4,000 black people were lynched,
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many of them in Southern states, many of them by hanging.
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And we define lynching as an extrajudicial killing of that
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is a public act.
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And we don't know whether these are lynchings.
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I want to be very clear that we are not
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going to rush to judgment. We're not going to ascribe
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particular labels without having the correct evidence. But the pattern
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certainly should give rise to some serious investigation, data collection,
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and tracking. And that's precisely why we have a Congress
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that has investigative authority. Our Congress has pulled together commissions
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and task forces to study various policy problems and concerns
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in this country. And the Legal Defense Fund has flagged
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the increasing number of black people dying by hanging under
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suspicious circumstances as a policy public problem that needs federal
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government attention.
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This is also why the midterms matter, because Republicans can
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control Congress.
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They can ignore this.
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But if Democrats were leading the House and or the Senate,
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they likely would take action. I'm Roland Martin on the
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Black Information Network.
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Thanks, Roland.
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Make sure you listen daily for commentary from James T.
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Harris and Roland S.
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Martin right here on the Black Information Network. A gene
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editing therapy just expanded by the FDA to children as
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young as two. is giving families living with sickle cell
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disease a real path to a cure. Here's the Black
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Information Network's Esther Dillard.
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One morning I got up and my husband was sitting
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next to me and I just nursed him on.
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The arm and I was like, look, look at his eyes.
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His eyes were white. The whites of his eyes were
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actually white. And we hadn't seen that in years.
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A mother was watching her son's eyes every morning for
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a sign that no test at the time could tell her.
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Sickle cell disease has been in the medical textbooks for
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more than 100 years. It disproportionately affects black Americans and
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Hispanic Americans, people who share ancestry with the African diaspora.
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For most of that history, doctors could manage the pain,
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but they couldn't change the disease. That changed when the
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FDA approved a new gene editing therapy, first for patients
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12 and older, and this July for children as young
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as two.
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Dr.
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Lametra Scott is a pharmacist. She's also the mother of Ricky,
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one of the first commercial patients to receive treatment At
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the TriStar Centennial Children's Hospital in Nashville, Tennessee, Dr. Hadar
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Fagul leads the program that treated him.
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And I'll never forget this. So my baby was born
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in September. I get a phone call the day before Thanksgiving.
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So this is in November now. So I get a
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phone call the day before Thanksgiving and she says, oh,
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I've got great news. Ricky doesn't have sickle cell disease.
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He only has sickle cell trait, just like you and
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your husband. So everything is fine. At this moment, I'm
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excited because we didn't tell anybody in our family that
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this was a possibility because we didn't want to prematurely
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worry people. We didn't even know. So we waited and
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I'm excited. I'm like, oh, thank you, Jesus. My baby
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doesn't have sickle cell disease and we're moving along our
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happy way. I get a phone call from the health department.
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She's a case worker. And this is probably a little
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bit later, maybe about the 12 week timeframe at this
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point in time, I get a phone call and she's saying,
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we need you to bring your child in for confirmation screening.
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And I was like, why?
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And at this point, I'm like, people at the health department,
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there's too many people, too many eyes in the fire.
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We've already done this. I took him to his primary
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care doctor.
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He's good.
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And she says, No, Ms. Scott, he's not.
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Based on the newborn screening that we did, he has
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sickle cell disease type SS. And we need to bring
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you in for confirmation screening to get him connected with
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a hematologist, the whole bit. So needless to say, it
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felt like somebody had knocked the wind out of you.
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Because at that moment, it's almost as if there was
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a stopwatch. for your child's life, just because of the
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impacts that sickle cell disease has on a person's life
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and the ability that it has to basically make people
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die early.
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Lemaitre's stopwatch has a name in medicine.
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People with sickle cell disease in 2026 have a life
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expectancy in the mid to late 40s, which is significantly
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lower than the general population.
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That's Dr. Hadar Frangoul. He directs the Pediatric Hematology, Oncology,
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and Stem Cell Transplant Program at TriStar Centennial Children's Hospital,
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the doctor who treated Ricky.
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And the reason why is because it affects every single
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organ in the body. It affects the brain, it affects
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the lung, the heart, the kidneys, the bones. and it
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affects overall health. So individuals with sickle cell disease actually
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continue to suffer from these complications throughout their life, and
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it is cumulative. The older they become, the more complications
804
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they have. Having said that, in now probably close to
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30 plus years ago, we discovered there is something called
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bone marrow transplantation, which is a transplant of the bone
807
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marrow cells from a family member, a brother or a
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sister that are not affected can potentially cure this disease.
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But unfortunately, 80% of people today with sickle cell disease
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in the United States do not have a brother or
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a sister that's a match to them. So that leaves
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80% of the people with sickle cell disease with no
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curative option. So what we did in the first patient
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in the world was treated in our hospital. Her name
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is Victoria Gray and she is very famous. She gives
816
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talks all over the place. I'm not violating HIPAA because
817
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she tells her story all the time. And she came
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to us because she wanted a very, very high risk
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transplant from her half brother. And she got scared about
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the complications because when you don't have a full match,
821
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there's a lot of complications. So we were running this
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trial here and she was the first patient in the
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whole world to receive this treatment. And this treatment in
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basic words is we take the stem cells out, we
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collect the stem cells from the blood of individuals with
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sickle cell disease, gene edit them using this CRISPR technology
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telling the cells to make high levels of fetal hemoglobin
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and put them back into the patient. Now, when we
829
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put them back in the person receiving them, we give
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them four days of chemotherapy to kill their cells that
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are making sickle. And those new cells start making high
832
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levels of fetal hemoglobin more than 40%. So the individuals
833
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with sickle cell disease become basically at trade with fetal hemoglobin.
834
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And what we have seen when we did these trials
835
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since 2019 is that individuals who receive this, the symptoms
836
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related to sickle cell disease totally go away. For example,
837
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Victoria Gray, again, as an example, Prior to receiving this therapy,
838
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she was hospitalized seven or eight times per year, and
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now she doesn't have any hospitalizations. She's never been hospitalized.
840
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She's taking care of her kids and enjoying life as
841
00:44:47.860 --> 00:44:52.750
somebody without the disease. So I think it's transformative in
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00:44:52.809 --> 00:44:56.349
a sense that it allows every individual with sickle cell
843
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disease to to have a potential curative option for their disease.
844
00:45:01.809 --> 00:45:04.130
That science felt a long way off when Ricky was
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00:45:04.190 --> 00:45:07.760
three years old, fighting for his life in a different way. Well,
846
00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:11.300
there was mention of a blood transfusion after an acute
847
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.380
chest syndrome when Ricky was three.
848
00:45:15.739 --> 00:45:17.139
Can you walk me through that moment?
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00:45:17.420 --> 00:45:19.429
What were you told and how did it change how
850
00:45:19.469 --> 00:45:21.050
you managed his care afterwards?
851
00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:25.039
Well, when babies or kids have sickle cell disease, it's
852
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oftentimes understood that if your baby has a fever, you
853
00:45:28.929 --> 00:45:33.210
take the baby to the hospital immediately because it's an emergency.
854
00:45:33.969 --> 00:45:37.849
And that's oftentimes because a fever may be the only
855
00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:42.849
sign that there is an infection brewing under the surface. Well,
856
00:45:44.329 --> 00:45:49.130
in his case, he had a fever, but that was it.
857
00:45:49.869 --> 00:45:54.389
Nothing else was wrong. He didn't have cough. He wasn't fidgety.
858
00:45:54.530 --> 00:45:58.940
He wasn't complaining about pain. And most times, if a
859
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.599
person sees that their baby has a fever, it's like, oh,
860
00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:04.239
I'll just give them some Tylenol or some ibuprofen and
861
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.800
let it go. Well, in sickle cell disease, I knew
862
00:46:06.820 --> 00:46:10.550
that that was not the correct option to undergo. And
863
00:46:10.610 --> 00:46:13.670
it's basically because people who have sickle cell disease, they
864
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have a compromised immune system.
865
00:46:16.150 --> 00:46:19.119
And babies and children... Pretty.
866
00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:21.619
Much acute chest syndrome is the leading cause of death
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00:46:21.699 --> 00:46:24.800
before the age of five. So that's all the more
868
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.179
reason why if a fever starts, you need to take
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00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.800
them in immediately. So I took him into the hospital
870
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and they asked me what were the symptoms that he
871
00:46:33.820 --> 00:46:36.530
was having. And I was like, well, he only has
872
00:46:36.570 --> 00:46:36.969
a fever.
873
00:46:37.429 --> 00:46:37.820
That was it.
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00:46:37.829 --> 00:46:39.530
That's the only reason why he's here is because he
875
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has a fever and this is the protocol. Well, because
876
00:46:43.070 --> 00:46:46.849
of that fever, they just decided, let's just, hey, let's
877
00:46:46.869 --> 00:46:50.739
just do a chest X-ray. just to see how things
878
00:46:50.860 --> 00:46:54.639
are going. And from that chest x-ray, you could see
879
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.090
that he had infiltrates in his lungs. And that was
880
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:03.690
a sign of acute chest syndrome. So with acute chest syndrome,
881
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that actually is when you have sickle cells that form
882
00:47:07.250 --> 00:47:10.110
in the lungs and they are able to reduce the
883
00:47:10.170 --> 00:47:14.349
amount of oxygen that happens. And in his case, his
884
00:47:14.389 --> 00:47:18.250
hemoglobin levels began to drop beyond what their baseline levels were.
885
00:47:18.750 --> 00:47:21.449
And that is what triggered the need to have a
886
00:47:21.489 --> 00:47:22.389
blood transfusion.
887
00:47:22.889 --> 00:47:25.500
That was Ricky at three years old, a decade of
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00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.980
fights like that one were still ahead of him.
889
00:47:28.820 --> 00:47:33.079
I knew that organ damage was imminent. I knew that
890
00:47:33.179 --> 00:47:35.800
the risk of him having a stroke was as, you know,
891
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.480
it didn't reduce over the years. It was actually, you know,
892
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.219
just compounding. I knew that, um, sickle cell disease would
893
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.519
begin to impact his life more and more because it
894
00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:48.659
doesn't get better as people get older. It just compounds
895
00:47:48.699 --> 00:47:52.829
and gets worse. So that's when I turned back to
896
00:47:52.869 --> 00:47:53.670
gene therapy.
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00:47:54.730 --> 00:47:55.289
Did it work?
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00:47:55.750 --> 00:47:58.369
You'll hear what LaMetra saw with her own eyes and
899
00:47:58.389 --> 00:48:01.030
get a full conversation on the Color Between the Lines
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00:48:01.090 --> 00:48:05.320
podcast on iHeartRadio, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.
901
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:06.559
I'm Esther Dillard.
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00:48:10.869 --> 00:48:13.949
For more information on gene therapy for sickle cell disease,
903
00:48:14.289 --> 00:48:20.500
visit TristarHealth.com. That's T-R-I-S-T-A-R-Health.com.
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00:48:20.780 --> 00:48:21.599
Thanks again to Dr.
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00:48:21.659 --> 00:48:22.800
Lemaitre Scott and Dr.
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00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:23.559
Hadar Frangel.
907
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.320
Coming up, Doug Davis is back with part two of
908
00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:30.530
his Your Black Business conversation with Complex Magazine's new vice
909
00:48:30.570 --> 00:48:34.969
president of brand partnership, Mike Tresvant. Today's conversation will center
910
00:48:35.010 --> 00:48:38.269
on how companies can build a strong brand, the growing
911
00:48:38.329 --> 00:48:42.449
role of AI in media, and how his HBCU experience
912
00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:45.030
helped prepare him for success. Doug?
913
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.159
Hey, thanks, Mike. I am Doug Davis, and this is
914
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:48.119
Your Black Business.
915
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:52.440
We continue our conversation about branding with Complex Magazine's new
916
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.500
Executive Vice President of Brand Development, Mike Trezvan.
917
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:56.440
Brother, welcome back.
918
00:48:56.820 --> 00:48:59.599
Last week's conversation was so insightful, I felt it was
919
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.409
really important for us to bring you back. But before
920
00:49:02.449 --> 00:49:06.690
we get into more branding conversation, you graduated from HBCU
921
00:49:06.730 --> 00:49:10.150
Clark Atlanta University. How did the school prep you to
922
00:49:10.190 --> 00:49:12.000
become the business leader that you are today?
923
00:49:12.420 --> 00:49:14.500
I think, well, there's a number of things. I think
924
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:21.099
there's the core curriculum is tailored specifically. to really prepare
925
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:26.380
you for not just the fundamentals in biology, mathematics, but
926
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:28.440
it also opens up and gives you a sense of
927
00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:33.110
a brighter world that understands the African-American contributions in all
928
00:49:33.150 --> 00:49:36.090
things in science, media, art, and all the things that
929
00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:40.889
often are overlooked. In PWIs, I think it's obviously mostly
930
00:49:40.909 --> 00:49:44.239
celebrated of like European history or in the terms of
931
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.920
history that is a historical landmark, as opposed to like
932
00:49:47.940 --> 00:49:51.840
the contribution of the African-American experience as it relates to
933
00:49:52.059 --> 00:49:52.920
all things in the world.
934
00:49:52.980 --> 00:49:53.159
Right.
935
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.610
And I think that part sort of formidable years is
936
00:49:57.670 --> 00:50:00.789
an important part of like becoming very proud of who
937
00:50:00.829 --> 00:50:03.429
you are, especially, you know, as a black person living
938
00:50:03.449 --> 00:50:05.769
in America. I think that part of it was really
939
00:50:05.809 --> 00:50:11.369
important and eye-opening and sort of something that you can't
940
00:50:11.429 --> 00:50:13.460
really know that you needed it until you get it.
941
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And I think that the second part of it, sort
942
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:21.280
of personally, which, you know, they're obviously very intertwined, was
943
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.519
that it was the first time for me going to
944
00:50:23.579 --> 00:50:25.909
a school I was just a kid going to school.
945
00:50:25.929 --> 00:50:28.159
I wasn't a black kid going to school, right? I
946
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:32.000
didn't feel other ever. Like the teachers were black, the
947
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:35.199
janitor was black. And they required us a lot more
948
00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:39.340
higher to overachieve with requiring things like internships. Like it
949
00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:42.219
was a requirement to graduate. You had to have internships
950
00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:46.239
in your field. So like that put me as a
951
00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:49.139
leg up when I was in the marketplace looking for
952
00:50:49.179 --> 00:50:51.199
a job that a lot of people I realized coming
953
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.599
out of college, even to this day, I have, you know,
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00:50:54.610 --> 00:50:57.710
nieces and nephews and godkids that struggle to see, like, okay,
955
00:50:57.730 --> 00:50:58.929
I don't know what I want to do. I was like, well,
956
00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:00.469
by the time I was a senior, I was like,
957
00:51:00.489 --> 00:51:03.829
had already worked two internships in my field and had
958
00:51:03.849 --> 00:51:05.929
a better understanding of what I want to do versus
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00:51:05.969 --> 00:51:09.500
this constant theoretical, I don't know what I want to do,
960
00:51:09.539 --> 00:51:10.880
but I have a lot of experience. I have a
961
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.159
lot of theoretical knowledge that I don't know what to
962
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:13.579
do with.
963
00:51:13.900 --> 00:51:14.460
Yeah, man.
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Very well put.
965
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.980
I'm a product of an HBCU as well and got
966
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my first job in television right.
967
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.409
Out of school. You know, it was actually... a career
968
00:51:22.489 --> 00:51:23.550
fair that helped get me in.
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But like you, you know, I had to have an internship,
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you know, I had to have some practical something on paper,
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you know, and it really helped. For those who may
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be listening right now, you know, even current business owners,
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you know, who just, you know, may not know, but
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what are brands still misunderstanding about the relationship between culture
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and commerce?
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I think a lot of brands miss the ability to
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be agile or quick. I think what happens in a
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lot of larger organizations as they want to be like,
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you know, it's really hard to keep up with the
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speed of culture. And, you know, there's a few brands
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who have done it well. There's a few brands who struggle,
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but I think that's where most larger organizations look to
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do is like some, they hop on a trend or
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they want to be a part of something, but there's
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either bureaucracy internally that gets in their way that doesn't
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allow them to be free and then attached to something.
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And by the time they get all their ducks in
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a row to attach to something, it's already moved on
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or Or it's oversaturated and they just become another person
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and they actually are working against the trend itself. Or
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they haven't taken up a time, I think, to think
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about what their POV is in a space.
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Right.
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And what I mean by that is just like you
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don't need to insert your large brand into culture for
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the sake of that. You really, as I mentioned before,
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like the younger generation is always going to be about authenticity,
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no matter what generation you look at. Young people are
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looking at the definition of what's defining them and people
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and brands that they're going to be associated with for
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their life. And that is a really big, intimate, emotional thing.
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Connection.
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And so your point of differentiation has to come from
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something meaningful, but it also has to be providing an
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additive portion to the person's life or profile. And I
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think if you spend time crafting that thing out, you
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will find we have always worked with clients who take
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the time to really find out what they stand for
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from the inside out, which is always going to be
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help in creating when you come to our sort of
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portion of intersection with the audience of like that storytelling
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that matters. Versus sort of wedging yourself in there without
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a lot more thoughtful curation.
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Right.
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What do young Black audiences, what do you think they
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want from media outlets like Complex and brands that they're
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not getting enough of these days?
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I think they I mean, we always look to say
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that we're trying to continue to elevate voices in the fray.
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An audience in subcultures that maybe not that people are
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not as familiar with. I think that's the sort of
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the benefit of this generation is that they have found
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each other. In all parts of the world and all
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parts of the country and have created a larger community.
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I think one of our, you know, we don't we
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talk about this sort of you know, live experiences, but
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really that is community, right? Like live experiences really are
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a reflection back of community. So whether it is a food,
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our food festival, or whether it's ComplexCon, it's really talking
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about people who enjoy the same sort of things. And
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I think that is what, you know, especially for a
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young Black audience across the world and even in parts
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of the country where they aren't heavily populated, you know,
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I think Complex is always going to and tries to
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be that moment that feels like they're being inspired and recognized,
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which is really the human side of our brand.
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Great segue into my next question. How does Complex use AI?
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I think we use it more as a resource to
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sort of not just, like while AI can help us
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resource and pull information about stories or information or subjects,
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it doesn't allow us What AI can't do and which
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is complex as always has been its its superpower is
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taste and curation and understanding why something is important and
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not just reporting it back as something that's happened. I
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think our brand equity is largely rooted in our perspective
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and our. deeply rooted understanding of both something that is
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nice aesthetically, but also why it's nice aesthetically and the
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historical origin of where it comes from, whether it's music
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pieces through samples and the origin of like artists and
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where their perspective, or if it's from a fashion perspective,
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I think a media company in today's world is only
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going to be as good as its true understanding of culture.
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And that comes from the inside out, which is why
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AI can help us understand and curate, I mean, pull
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things together. It cannot help with the actual curation.
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Right, right, right.
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Hey, let's segue real quick before we wrap up and
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talk about your 10th anniversary of ComplexCon coming up.
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ComplexCon, yeah, so it really truly is the convergence of culture.
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It really surrounds itself from all parts of intersectionality. I think,
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you know, on the top line, it's headliner big brands
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that are coming to really have a sort of a
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first-to-market interaction with consumers, either it's existing one-of-a-kind collaborations in
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ways of a number of collaborations from a celebrity or
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streetwear perspective where consumers are allowed to finally get a
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limited edition collab from their favorite streetwear brands. But it's
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also allowed for brands to show up with their innovation
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and creativity and have consumers interact and intersect with their
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brands in a way for the first time and get
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a better understanding of like, not only do I like,
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you know, for example, a pixel, but this might be
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the first time that I get to actually interact with
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one and see what they really stand for. And I
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think that is really sort of at the crux of
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what ComplexCon is. It's, you know, it's, it's the, it
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is the commerce sort of hub while the lifestyle is
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sort of sprinkled all over it. I think there is
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a celebration of sneakers. We have conversations. So it's really
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like a three part sort of experience. There's the shopping experience,
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which is the larger part of it. There's the musical
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performances that happen at night. And then there's the conversations
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with the panels that are happening throughout the day that really,
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you know, heighten and elevate the conversation about culture. And
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then the sort of the fourth leg of that is
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where the brand partners show up, where you have brands, again,
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either interacting and collaborating with some of the artists and
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celebrities or other brands. to give consumers things and products
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and experiences that are really sort of valuable. And it's
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all done through the lens of culture. And this is
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sort of really how it happens at this ComplexCon, which,
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you know, excited it'll be in Los Angeles. It's October
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3rd and 4th. It's our first time at the convention center.
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So we're excited to be back in Los Angeles. We
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historically were in Long Beach and then we took it
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to Vegas for a couple of years. The first couple
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of years when we took over Complex and now we're
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back at Los Angeles and we're super excited.
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Mike Tresvon, any relation to Ralph? You know, I had
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to ask.
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Yes, there's the question, man.
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Come on.
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Took you too long to ask.
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Come on.
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You know, I had to get to the good stuff first.
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You know what I'm saying?
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No, that is Mike.
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Like, so our grandfathers were brothers?
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Yeah. And so Brunswick, Georgia, small town.
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I thought I was the only Tresman in the world
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until I went to Brunswick, Georgia. And I was like, oh,
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here we are. Like, he's from Boston, so I'm not
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going to pretend to know him, but we are cousins.
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Wow.
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How cool is that?
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Mike Tresvant, Complex Magazine's new executive vice president of brand development.
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We appreciate your time, sir. This is Doug Davis on
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Your Black Business. Now back to Mike Island.
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Thanks, Doug and Mike. For more information, go to complex.com.
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That's it for today's show. For more on these stories,
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a new episode of The Black Perspective with stories from
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Join us for the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's 55th Annual
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It's August 30th, and on today's program, Alexandra Icamoni talks
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to the founders of the ATL Labor Day Classics, Devon
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Baker and Jerry Freeman, as they get ready for September
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5th when Morehouse takes on Clark Atlanta University. Next month,
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health care providers are teaming up for one mission, aiming
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to save lives in the fight against prostate cancer. Katie
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Gray reports. Next, a Nashville mom watched her son's eyes
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every morning for a sign that no test could give
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her yet.
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Dr.
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Lemaitre Scott and pediatric hematologist Dr. Hadar Frangel talked to
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Esther Dillard about the game editing therapy that's giving families
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a real shot at a cure for sickle cell disease.
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And this almost never happens, but lightning struck twice, killing
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the mother and her toddler. In a BIN exclusive, senior
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anchor Vanessa Tyler speaks with the father who was right
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there when it happened. And Doug Davis is back with
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part two of his conversation with Complex Magazine's new vice
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president of brand partnership, Mike Tresvin, as the two continue
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talking about branding, the emergence of AI in media, and
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how attending an HBCU provided him the necessary tools to
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make it big in the world of media advertising and branding.
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These stories are coming your way on today's program. Welcome
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to The Black Perspective. I'm your host, Mike Island.
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Welcome to The Black Perspective, a weekly community affairs program
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on the Black Information Network, featuring interviews and discussions on
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issues important to the black community.
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Good Sunday and welcome to The Black Perspective. The historic
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rivalry between Morehouse College and Clark Atlanta University is bringing
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people from all over the country to watch.
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It go down.
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But now the ATL Labor Day Classics is a part
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of the mix. The Black Information Network's Alexandria Ikemoni spoke
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to the co-founders.
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What's up, guys?
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It's your girl, Alexandria Ikemoni. In the studio, iHeartRadio with founders, co-founders,
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Devon Baker.
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Yes, ma'am.
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How are you today?
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I'm awesome.
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How are you doing?
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Doing well, thank you. And we also have Jerry Freeman
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in the building.
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How are you?
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I'm good.
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I'm great. Fantastic. Glad to be here.
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We're happy to have you. Great things are coming. I
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know we're almost into September right now. September 5th, a
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fun event is coming our way. You guys are the
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co-founders of that event. Tell us more about it.
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Absolutely.
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It's the ATL Labor Day Classic happening September 5th, as
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you said, at BT Harvey Stadium at 1 p.m.
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At Morehouse College.
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And that's an HBCU football game between Morehouse College and
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Clark Atlanta University. They play every year. They rotate home fields.
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This year is at Morehouse University. And they've been playing
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since about 1900. But this is special because we moved
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that game up from the end of the season to
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the beginning of the season. Home opener, Labor Day weekend,
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that hopeful beginning of season energy. So we're looking forward
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to a great time and all the events that are
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around the Classic.
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Now, tell me more about the events, because this is
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a new HBCU tradition. It's the inaugural Labor Day Classic.
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What exactly is it? What can people expect that's different
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than the traditional or normal, you know, game against the rivals?
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Well, we have three experiences. Yes.
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The first experience is just the general admission game experience
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in the stadium, watching the game and enjoying that. Then
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the next level of the experience is. It's what we
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call our fan zone fan fest area where we have
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DTLR and other people that sponsors out there with live entertainment, DJs,
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all those things happening out there. It's going to be
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a great time. And then we have. The VIP experience
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that's on the bluff or the hill overlooking the stadium
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and includes all three things. So you have the VIP
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experience where you have the lounge seating. We have the
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we have a couple of bars out there. So the
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nice cocktail libations. And then you also have, you know, food.
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I love that.
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it sounds like it's going to be a great time there.
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its own Labor Day classic?
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It's about time, right?
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It is.
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It is.
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Like I said, we're moving it forward, wanting people to
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have that classic experience. And I just think the athletic
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departments of the schools saw the opportunity and said, hey,
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let's do it. Let's move it forward. Let's make it
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Labor Day. Let's involve the community. Let's involve the students.
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Let's involve the alums. So we're making it a big deal.
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It's not homecoming, but we like to say it's the
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AUC homecoming. coming because we got Spelman College, Morehouse College,
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Clark Atlanta University and Morris Brown is going to be
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in the house.
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It's going to be a time for sure.
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I think so. I love that.
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Now you're talking about the community involvement, et cetera. Talk
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to me more about the cultural and the economic impact
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that a game like this or an event like this,
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I should say, will have on Atlanta, but specifically that pocket,
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if you will.
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you think about the AUC, you think about the West End,
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you know, the AUC, Morris Brown, Clark, Atlanta, Spelman, ITC,
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Morehouse School of Medicine. You know, it's just a big
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community and fellowship. And it's all about love.
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the community, because you have many people who work at
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those schools, who their kids, grandkids, whomever. Nieces, nephews also
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attend those schools. So it's a great impact, not only
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for the schools, but Atlanta. And I think about it
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like this. The AUC helped create the ATL. Think about
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all of the alums that came from Spelman, Clark Atlanta,
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Morris Brown, who's done great work, not only in Atlanta,
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but also globally. So the AUC helped create the ATL.
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the AUC remain in Atlanta.
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HBCU grads come after school.
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So Atlanta is the right stage for this. It makes sense.
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So that's why it's the right time. Absolutely.
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It makes a lot of sense to have this here.
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And you're talking about how we're essentially the hub for this, right?
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So let's talk about the fact of this is the inaugural.
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What is the vision because of the impact and the
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influence that the culture has here?
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Well, we certainly have this vision of making this a tradition.
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You circle Labor Day on your calendar and you know
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that the ATL Labor Day Classic is happening and you
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know to make your plans to be there. So we
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certainly want that tradition that every year we're coming back.
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our friends there. We're going to have the people we
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want to be with. And we're going to party while
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we do the game. You know, I always talk about
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how during homecoming and, you know, some of these big games,
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you're partying so hard at the tailgate, you never even
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make it to the game.
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That's true. People are like, hey, what happened in the game?
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Who won? Rich reminds me.
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Make sure to get your tickets at ATL Labor Day
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Classic dot com. That's ATL Labor Day Classic dot com.
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You always got to put that in.
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But in this game, just to finish that thought, the
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party is during the game. You don't have to choose
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between the game or the good time.
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Right. You can choose your experience, whether it's VIP or
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Fan Fest.
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Do both. Be a VIP. But you party during the game.
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And that's what this is all about.
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Absolutely. Any last words you would like to leave?
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I know you mentioned where people can get tickets, but
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anything else you would like to leave with the listeners?
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Again, it's all about love.
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It's more than the game.
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One more time. Where can people get tickets, the dates?
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people are interested in coming to. What are the details
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be people coming from out of town. There will be
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all those folks that live here from all of those HBCUs.
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Harvey Stadium on the Morehouse College campus.
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Get your tickets at ATL Labor. I'm sorry. Let me
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get it right.
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ATL Labor Day Classic dot com. Get your tickets. Come
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to the VIP experience. Come to the fan fest. You'll
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see artists like Zeddy Will, like YK Nisi, like we
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have even an audition trailer for Wildin' Out. Nick Cannon
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is going to be in the house. That's breaking news,
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by the way.
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That's exciting.
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Wait, you got to tell me a little bit more
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about the Nick Cannon. You can't just slide that in
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at the end and not give me more detail. Tell
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me more about Nick Cannon and the Wild N' Out situation.
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That's exactly right. So Wild N' Out is having a
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new season upcoming. Nick Cannon called and said, hey, I
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heard about this Fan Fest. We want to be a
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part of it. We're going to bring our audition trailer
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to the Fan Fest. So if you got lyrics, if
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you can spit, come and try out audition for Wild
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N' Out this season.
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Any more surprises that's going to be happening this weekend?
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More to come.
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You got to stay tuned.
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You have to stay tuned. You have to come out, apparently,
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in order to get all the good stuff. So that's
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really exciting. Thank you guys so much for joining me
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in the studio to talk about the classic.
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Thank you for having us.
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Awesome.
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Thank you.
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Once again, Alexandria Ikemoni with co-founder Zavon Baker. and Jerry Freeman.
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Thank you, Alexandria, Devon and Jerry. The ATL Labor Day
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Classics goes down September 5th in Atlanta, Georgia. Now we
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get commentary from James T.
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Harris.
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The opinions, beliefs and viewpoints expressed in this commentary.
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Are I'm James T.
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Harris, and I have something to say.
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Gary, Indiana, 76% black. Mayor, black. City council, all black.
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City clerk, black. The electric company executives, black. The police department,
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57% black. The people shooting at the electric company, black.
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The excellence, black. The blame, according to Don Lemon and Gary, Indiana,
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Mayor Eddie Melton, white. Let that sink in. Every lever
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of power, every seat at the table, every decision maker
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in that city looks like us. Has looked like us
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for years. And Gary still looks like a war zone.
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Still can't keep the lights on. Still got people so
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mad they're shooting at the power company. But somehow, somehow,
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this is still white supremacy's fault. When do we start
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looking in the mirror? When do we stop doing the
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Wakanda pose over a burning city? We got the representation.
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We got the reparations conversations. We got the black excellence hashtags.
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What we don't have is results. What we don't have
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is safe streets. What we don't have is functioning infrastructure,
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but we sure can find someone to blame. This is
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what happens when you prioritize skin color over competence. When
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you celebrate first black everything, but never ask if they're
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actually good at anything. Gary's should be a shining city.
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By their logic, by the logic of the race hustlers,
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this should be paradise. No white man blocking the bridge.
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No systemic racism holding back the electric grid. Just black leadership,
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black power, black failure. But say that out loud and
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watch them come for you. Because the hustle requires a villain.
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Even when the villain left the building decades ago. Even
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when the only people left to blame are staring back
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from the city council photos. So next time you hear
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somebody cry about systemic racism, remember, Gary, remember that system
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is us. The oppression is us. The failure is us.
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And the fix starts when we admit it. I'm James C.
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Harris for the Black Information Network.
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Thanks, James. And stay tuned for commentary from Roland S.
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Martin later on today's show. Every year, about 300 to
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400 people are struck by lightning in the United States.
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Most survive, but 20 to 30 of them are killed
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and her child. The Black Information Network's Vanessa Tyler has
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the story of a family torn apart by a deadly
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strike from the sky.
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Mike, thanks.
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You know we cover so many tragedies, but this one
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stands out. Picture this, a black family getting out of
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their car last week, rushing into the house because it
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started to rain, when the mother and daughter were struck
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dead by lightning. Hard to believe what happened to 31-year-old
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Kenya Glasgow and her 2-year-old daughter Kennedy. But husband and
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father Cameron Glasgow was there. He saw it and felt it.
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Joining me from Florida is Cameron Glasgow. Cameron, welcome. And
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on behalf of the Black Information Network... Our deepest condolences.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Tell us what happened.
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You had just arrived for family dinner last Sunday at
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an aunt's house in Margate near Fort Lauderdale, and it
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just started to rain?
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what everybody else would do. One year, just trying to
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get out of the rain before it starts. We got
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out of the car, just started packing the girls up,
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and Started to run and all of a sudden I
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heard a loud boom and I was thrown back from
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the residual voltage from the lightning hitting the ground. And
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once I came to, I looked to my right and
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saw my wife and daughter on the ground. Initially, I
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ran to them and then I could barely run actually
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because my body was still adjusting from the voltage that
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I had received. Initially, I ran to them, and then
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I ran to the house to try to get help
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from the rest of my family. Oh, my God.
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There were reports that there were 200 bolts of lightning
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near Margate last Sunday and five cloud-to-ground strikes within a
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mile of where you guys were. You said you felt it.
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Did you see any lightning coming out of the sky?
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Yeah, on the way there, we definitely did. But, I mean...
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We're so used to seeing things of that nature that
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we didn't think anything of it.
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I know you are worried, especially about Kinsley, because if
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this isn't tragic enough, you and your wife had twins.
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Yeah, unfortunately, yes. How is she doing?
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I know she's got to be asking for them by now.
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As her father, I've stepped in and just started preparing
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her for what her life is going to be going forward.
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is in heaven. And we point up to the sky
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and say, hi, mommy and sissy. And we point to
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our hearts and say they're in our hearts as well.
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the proper things to do. When she starts asking more
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questions for her mom and her sister, we're going to
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make sure that she knows she was loved and Her
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mother and sister would never leave her like this. There
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was not a choice by them. They would never leave her.
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How are you processing this? Many of us, when we
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lose a loved one, we say that's God's will. How
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do you wrap your head around what happened?
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years ago. So dealing with grief and battling depression, in
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a way, is something that I've worked through. This year,
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most importantly. And I know that God makes no mistakes,
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but I'm also asking him, like I asked with my father,
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what is it that he wants me to do? And
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what's the big picture here? Because things have changed drastically
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for us in a matter of seconds.
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Tell us a little bit about Kennedy. There's some footage
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I saw of her singing karaoke online.
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Oh my gosh, my live wire. She's the energy. She's
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the energy. She's the one, the mischievous one, the one
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that gets kids where they get into everything. And ironically enough,
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she's the younger one of the two. They're two minutes apart.
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So anytime they were up to some mischief, like going
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in the refrigerator and taking some food out, taking a
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snack out, she'd always say, come on, sissy.
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Come on, come on.
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Get you some too. Get some too. So They were
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two peas in a pod, and she was energy, just
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like her mother, just a ball of joy.
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Like her mother, who was the love of his life.
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They literally grew up together, met in high school.
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Funny story, the day we met, I was actually skipping class,
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and I ended up in her keyboard class with some
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of my buddies. And that's when I pretty much had
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the opportunity to be introduced to her and After that, we,
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ironically enough, ended up in chemistry class and ended up
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having chemistry in chemistry. So that's where it all started.
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I know our listeners would want to help. You have
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set up a GoFundMe. It's titled Love and Support for Kinsley.
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In there, you can see the most beautiful photo of you,
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your wife, and the girls. It just breaks my heart.
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So people can contribute to support Kinsley.
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It's going to be one day at a time, but
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everything that, that is coming is a, is a huge blessing. Um,
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I'm kind of going against how my wife typically moves, but,
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and I was upset with myself initially for setting it
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up because she doesn't, we don't, we, we've never had
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our hand out for help. And my, what my wife, especially,
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although she loves to give help to everyone else, she
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never wanted to receive it back. So we'll process it.
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We'll see what, as time goes on, what she needs and,
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We'll make sure it's used for her and make our
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situation as comfortable as possible and as normal as we
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can make it.
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Oh, there's a lot going on as you prepare for
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the double services. Have the arrangements been made already?
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Yes. The arrangements are set for September 4th and 5th
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here in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. We don't have to go
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through this alone. We can cry together. We understand it.
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massive situation. My heart is completely broken. This is my
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best friend. This is all I know for the past
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15 years of my life. So I just want to
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make sure everybody else has the space to get their
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feelings out as well, because I'm going to get mine out.
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We've seen Cameron Glasgow's immense grief. Soon after it happened
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last week, he gave the most heart-wrenching news conference as
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he stood before reporters and He didn't hold back the tears.
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No one could.
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But I'll be okay because I have to because I
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have another beautiful daughter that's inside there. But for her
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to lose her twin sister, words can't describe that feeling.
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Because I know she can't even fathom it right now
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that she lost her best friend.
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I feel my feelings just like everybody else's. But I
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also know that you have to remain positive. You can't
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look at the negative things. Remain positive and just ask
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God for guidance. So that's what I'm doing now.
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Well, you are definitely in our prayers. Thank you for
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taking the time out to speak with me.
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No problem at all. Thank you.
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Cameron Glasgow, a young Black father dealing with the unimaginable.
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I'm Vanessa Tyler with the Black Perspective on the Black
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Information Network, your home for Black News First. Mike, back
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to you.
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Thank you, Vanessa.
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And again, that GoFundMe, if you would like to help,
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is titled Love and Support for Kinsley Jade. Katie Gray
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talks to the doctors involved in the Race for Paces
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5K as they offer free health care and prostate cancer
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screenings on September 12th.
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So for people who are listening and they have no
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context and they don't understand the drive of this organization
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and even your part and why you are a part
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of it, do you mind speaking on that a little bit?
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Absolutely, Katie. And so ACES as an entity, as an organization,
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has now been around our city for about two and
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a half years. And we kind of came together with
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a collaboration that now involves about 25 other entities, mostly
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clinical entities. that is essentially volunteer-led. And the whole idea
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is to try and give clinical services to people who
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are uninsured in our community, folks who are underinsured, and
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more importantly, the unhoused. And that is a new terminology
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now for the homeless. They're not called homeless anymore. So
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the unhoused in our community that need clinical services, we
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started two and a half years ago at Woodruff Park.
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And we went there with other clinicians, to render those
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services at no cost to them. And these are services
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that was volunteered with people volunteering their time and talent.
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We were overwhelmed.
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We had over 500 men and women and children who
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were unhoused in this space that needed clinical services. So
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we gave blood pressure screening. We did diabetes screening. We
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did cholesterol screening. And we also were able to offer
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prostate cancer screening, the PSA, which is a simple blood
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test that men can have for prostate cancer. In terms
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of screening to find out if they're at risk and
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if they need to have follow-up testing. So for every
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man out there who is over 40 years old, African-American,
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the guideline is that you need to get that simple
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blood test every 12 months. If you're non-African-American, the guideline
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is 50, except if you have a family history of
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a brother, a dad, or an uncle, who was diagnosed
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with prostate cancer before age 65. They need to start
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it a little bit sooner. Simple blood tests that will
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tell whether the PSA, which is a prostate-specific antigen, it's
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a hormone that the body makes, that the prostate makes,
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that goes into the bloodstream. And if it's high, it's
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an indication that we need to do additional testing. A
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lot of men know about the PSA. Some of us don't.
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But the bottom line is that it's not a foolproof test,
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but it's a very, very, very useful tool that helps
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us to tell who needs additional testing. So the whole
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idea behind the PACES is prostate cancer community engagement and
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screenings because prostate cancer, Katie, is the most diagnosed cancer
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in men in America and worldwide.
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The most diagnosed.
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The only cancer that is diagnosed more so than prostate
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cancer is skin cancer, which a lot of folks oftentimes
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don't refer to as a major cancer because it's not
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a major cause of death. But prostate cancer is the
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most diagnosed cancer. So in America this year, there will
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be 300,000 men that will be diagnosed with prostate cancer.
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And of those 300,000, Katie, 35,000 will die from prostate cancer.
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The numbers are large. But the good news, again, this
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is why we're big on it, Katie, is because if
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you diagnose it early, 100% cure it with survival over
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five years is what the data shows.
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Absolutely.
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Just to piggyback off that a little bit, too many
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people in underserved communities are diagnosed with chronic diseases and
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cancers too late. And that's one of our major factors,
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making sure that we can provide that preventative care versus
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reactive care. Another thing I want to piggyback on, in
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the African-American community and the male community period, a lot
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of individuals postpone or delay or avoid getting PSA screenings
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because they're still under the assumption that it's a DRE,
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which is a digital rectal exam. So that allowed, well,
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that caused many individuals to avoid the process, which ended
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up They ended up with prostate cancer or a cancer
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that's too late to be treated or it's just been
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too advanced just because they didn't want to do that process.
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What Dr.
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Akintobe is explaining, we now have a blood test that
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needs to be. plain and simple. It's now a blood test.
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The screening for prostate cancer is now a blood test. Now,
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after that, if those numbers come back elevated, then there
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are other exams that will be performed, whether it's the
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DRE or whatever the case may be. But to get
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the initial screening, it is a blood test that needs
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to be made plain and simple so that men will
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not be afraid. And it's just like any other blood
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exam that you're going to receive. And then ultimately, we
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can avoid these issues where it's a complicated scenario of
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cancer where it could have been easily prevented.
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Well, and it's interesting because it also sounds like a
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big piece of this is trying to add clarity over
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what these processes look like and also how accessible the treatment,
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like the screenings are. That's the two goals, it sounds like.
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So the screening tests, they have come a long way.
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They have changed their processes over the years.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely, yes, it has.
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Let me say very clearly here today that we're probably
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maybe two years or maybe a year to two years
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away from being able to do one blood test that
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might test for multiple cancers. We're not there yet, but
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the technology is moving very rapidly because as we speak now,
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you can do another blood test for colon cancer screening
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that's been FDA approved.
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That's right.
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So just like you can do it for prostate, you
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can do it for colon.
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And guess what?
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There are other cancers now too that you can do
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those blood tests for. We're just waiting for the FDA
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to say, yes, go ahead and start to offer those tests.
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So simplicity, one makes it, and then accessibility, and then affordability.
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Being able to access this test and being able to
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get the testing done and then follow through on what happens.
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But the PSA has given us a tool that makes
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it easy enough to get the testing done. Rapid PSA
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testing means that you come on in and in 12
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minutes on this mobile unit that will be there with
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us on the day of the race, you can get
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your results. within 12 minutes. You don't have to wait
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24 hours or 36 hours or 72 hours to get
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your test results. So the technology is improving on the
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day to make this testing easier and easy to interpret.
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And more importantly, to tell us too that oftentimes when
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something is abnormal with this test.
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It does not mean it's cancer.
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It just means you go on to the next stage
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of evaluation.
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And I think it's important to also state we don't
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just screen people. We actually connect them to health care.
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So whenever we as as a team, as aces, whenever
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we're in the community, whether it's a church, whether it's unhoused, underserved,
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it's truly about the continuity of care. So once we
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do our perform our screenings, whether it's blood pressure, blood glucose,
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colon cancer, colon screenings, PSA. Once we receive those values,
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we don't just allow you to leave and go and
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willy nilly. You just take those numbers and you don't
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know what to do with them. You don't know what
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they mean. You don't know how to interpret them. We
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have a team of individuals that actually interpret your numbers
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and contact you once we have evaluated everything. That's highly
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important so that you aren't just in the community. You
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go to a health fair, you receive some numbers, and
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then it's just like, OK, that's it. No, we ultimately
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connect you to a broader health care system, whether it's
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a specialty, a specialist that you need, a pharmacy that
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you need, anything when it comes to health care.
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That's what ACEs is here for it.
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We have a team of individuals that actually interpret your
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numbers and contact you once we have evaluated everything. That's
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highly important so that you aren't just in the community.
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You go to a health fair, you receive some numbers,
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and then it's just like, OK, that's it.
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No.
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We ultimately connect you to a broader health care system,
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whether it's a specialty, a specialist that you need, a
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pharmacy that you need, anything when it comes to health care.
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That's what ACEs is here for is to provide the
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screenings and then connect you to an ultimate network of physicians, clinicians,
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practitioners that are going to see you obtain the outcomes
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that that will actually improve your life.
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And so if you're listening and you have a primary
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care physician and you're 40 years and over, please ask
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for the PSA test if that hasn't been discussed. Because
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an anal physical, which is a comprehensive checkup, is like
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driving your car to the dealership and say, guess what?
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Please check this thing out. I've been driving this car
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for two years. It's the same thing with the human body.
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Imagine the human body is a machine. And at times
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doing some testing on the inside tells us a lot
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more about our health. Whether it's checking your blood sugar,
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even if you don't know that you might be borderline
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diabetic or pre-diabetic or diabetic. When you do those tests
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early enough, you'll be able to get answers to those questions.
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So that checkup is very important. So if you do
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have a primary care physician, you need to be sure
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that you're getting an animal physical, male, female, whatever age
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or race. However, our group is to provide for those
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who may not have a primary care physician or who
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may not have insurance or who may not have access
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to say that there is another opportunity to be able
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to do that. So our collaboration allows us to do that,
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to be able to provide this for men, create a
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safe space for for them to come out, get the
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testing done, and then almost immediately know the results, and
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then to have the follow-up that is necessary.
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Well, especially when we start talking about a series of
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different tests, there are a lot of people that are
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concerned when it comes to the financial piece to it,
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when you start adding in different types of experts. So
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is part of the initiative also to allow access and
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resources to Also, to try to ease stigmas around the
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financial burden.
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That is correct.
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Katie, you bring up a very, very, very valid point.
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And people out there listening understand what we're talking about
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when we talk about the fact that.
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Another thing I want to piggyback on an African-American community
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and male community, period. a lot of individuals postpone or
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delay or avoid getting PSA screenings because they're still under
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the assumption that it's a DRE, which is a digital
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rectal exam. So that allowed, well, that caused many individuals
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to avoid the process, which ended up, they ended up
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with prostate cancer or a cancer that's too late to
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be treated, or it's just been too advanced just because
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they didn't want to do that process.
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What Dr.
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Akintobe is explaining, we now have a blood test. That
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needs to be plain and simple. It's now a blood test.
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The screening for prostate cancer is now a blood test. Now,
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after that, if those numbers come back elevated, then there
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are other exams that will be performed, whether it's the
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DRE or whatever the case may be. But to get
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the initial screening, it is a blood test that needs
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to be made plain and simple so that men will
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not be afraid. And it's just like any other blood
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exam that you're going to receive. And then ultimately, we
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can avoid these issues where it's a complicated scenario of
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cancer where it could have been easily prevented.
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Well, and even just looking at data over the last
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couple of years, One part of the big conversation is
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that people are noticing that we are having an increase
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in the number of people that have been diagnosed with cancer.
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But with that same statistic said, more people seem to
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be surviving it because earlier detection.
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Katie, you raise a very valid point.
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It is 3 million survivors in America today, cancer survivors,
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3 million. That is bigger than the size of some countries.
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Three million cancer survivors in America today. And so, yes,
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this needs to be celebrated because it means that the
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technology is now available. The key is early diagnosis. When
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you are able to pick this thing up very, very early,
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and you know that cancer, whatever the type, is staged
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from stage one to stage four. Stage four is when
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it's really, really, really bad. Stage one is early stage,
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meaning it's just beginning. If you nip it in the bud,
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you move on with your life. Any form of cancer.
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So 3 million, over 3 million cancer survivors in America today.
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So it's a whole huge population. And we're hoping, of course,
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to see men and women who are prostate cancer survivors
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and breast cancer survivors. I have tons of them in
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my practice who are willing to tell their story, to
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know that men can see them and understand that there
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is life after that diagnosis. Yes, there are always concerns about, okay,
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how do you navigate all of that when you're a survivor?
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People now live 5, 10, 20, 25, 30 years after
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their diagnosis. So there's no question to your point. We're
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diagnosing more, but many more are surviving as well. And
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so when you look at the number, and we say
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that for prostate cancer specifically, 300,000 new diagnoses every year,
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and about 10% will die from prostate cancer. We're saying
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that that number needs to be much less if the
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diagnosis is early. And that's exactly the point. Let's push
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prostate cancer survivorship. Let's push those screening tools. Make it affordable.
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Make it accessible. And let's simplify it every way we can.
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And I think with the technology improving every single day, we're.
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Very close now, Katie. Mark this word.
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We're very close to where we can say you do
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a simple blood test and it can test for multiple cancers.
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Well, OK, so let's talk about September. Let's talk about
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the 5K.
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Absolutely.
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So September, September the 12th, 2026, ACES is hosting our
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first inaugural race, Race for Paces, Prostate Cancer Awareness and Education.
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It is once again, September the 12th, 2026. It will
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be hosted at the West Side Beltline Center.
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Dr.
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Akintobi and I have ran that a couple different times.
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It is a beautiful course, very flat, good for anybody
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who's a beginning runner or an advanced runner. We're actually
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hosting a 5K, a 10K. You can walk, you can run,
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either one. We just want any and everybody to come
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out to this race to support. especially if you are
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a survivor of prostate cancer. We have discounts for you all.
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For any students who want to participate who are in college,
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we have discounts for you all as well. All you
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have to do is register today at www.a2aces.org. That's a2aces. org.
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You can also go to Run Sign Up where you
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can look for our race, which is Race for Paces.
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That's p.a.c.e.s.
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And you will be able to find our race on
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that site as well. Feel free to donate if you
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can't actually run on that day. But at the end
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of the day, we're just looking for support because ultimately
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we want to increase our scope where we can actually
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provide more prostate cancer screenings and potentially go into some
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other cancer screenings in the future. But ultimately, right now,
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we're focused on prostate cancer as our inaugural race. And ultimately,
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we want to show out. So we hope to see
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you there.
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Thanks, Katie and the Race for Paces 5K team. The
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Race for Paces 5K goes down September 12th at the
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ATL Beltline. Now we get commentary from Roland S.
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Martin.
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The opinions, beliefs, and viewpoints expressed in this commentary are
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those of the author and do not necessarily represent those
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of BIN and its founding partners and employees. Now it's
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time to bring the funk with Roland S.
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Martin.
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A number of suspicious deaths, including African-Americans, found hanging in
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a number of southern states has caught the attention of
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the Legal Defense Fund. Janae Nelson, the executive director at
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council who leads the organization, says that they sent a
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series of letters to members of Congress and the United
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Nations demanding an investigation. Many people have suggested that at
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foul plays at play because African-Americans typically don't hang themselves
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when they commit suicide.
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It isn't common.
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I mean, what it all harkens back to is, as
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I said, one of the worst periods of our history
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from 1877 to 1950, where 4,000 black people were lynched,
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many of them in Southern states, many of them by hanging.
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And we define lynching as an extrajudicial killing of that
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is a public act.
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And we don't know whether these are lynchings.
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I want to be very clear that we are not
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going to rush to judgment. We're not going to ascribe
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particular labels without having the correct evidence. But the pattern
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certainly should give rise to some serious investigation, data collection,
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and tracking. And that's precisely why we have a Congress
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that has investigative authority. Our Congress has pulled together commissions
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and task forces to study various policy problems and concerns
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in this country. And the Legal Defense Fund has flagged
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the increasing number of black people dying by hanging under
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suspicious circumstances as a policy public problem that needs federal
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government attention.
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This is also why the midterms matter, because Republicans can
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control Congress.
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They can ignore this.
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But if Democrats were leading the House and or the Senate,
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they likely would take action. I'm Roland Martin on the
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Black Information Network.
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Thanks, Roland.
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Make sure you listen daily for commentary from James T.
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Harris and Roland S.
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Martin right here on the Black Information Network. A gene
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editing therapy just expanded by the FDA to children as
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young as two. is giving families living with sickle cell
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disease a real path to a cure. Here's the Black
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Information Network's Esther Dillard.
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One morning I got up and my husband was sitting
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next to me and I just nursed him on.
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The arm and I was like, look, look at his eyes.
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His eyes were white. The whites of his eyes were
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actually white. And we hadn't seen that in years.
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A mother was watching her son's eyes every morning for
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a sign that no test at the time could tell her.
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Sickle cell disease has been in the medical textbooks for
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more than 100 years. It disproportionately affects black Americans and
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Hispanic Americans, people who share ancestry with the African diaspora.
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For most of that history, doctors could manage the pain,
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but they couldn't change the disease. That changed when the
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FDA approved a new gene editing therapy, first for patients
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12 and older, and this July for children as young
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as two.
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Dr.
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Lametra Scott is a pharmacist. She's also the mother of Ricky,
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one of the first commercial patients to receive treatment At
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the TriStar Centennial Children's Hospital in Nashville, Tennessee, Dr. Hadar
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Fagul leads the program that treated him.
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And I'll never forget this. So my baby was born
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in September. I get a phone call the day before Thanksgiving.
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So this is in November now. So I get a
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phone call the day before Thanksgiving and she says, oh,
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I've got great news. Ricky doesn't have sickle cell disease.
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He only has sickle cell trait, just like you and
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your husband. So everything is fine. At this moment, I'm
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excited because we didn't tell anybody in our family that
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this was a possibility because we didn't want to prematurely
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worry people. We didn't even know. So we waited and
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I'm excited. I'm like, oh, thank you, Jesus. My baby
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doesn't have sickle cell disease and we're moving along our
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happy way. I get a phone call from the health department.
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She's a case worker. And this is probably a little
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bit later, maybe about the 12 week timeframe at this
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point in time, I get a phone call and she's saying,
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we need you to bring your child in for confirmation screening.
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And I was like, why?
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And at this point, I'm like, people at the health department,
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there's too many people, too many eyes in the fire.
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We've already done this. I took him to his primary
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care doctor.
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He's good.
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And she says, No, Ms. Scott, he's not.
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Based on the newborn screening that we did, he has
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sickle cell disease type SS. And we need to bring
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you in for confirmation screening to get him connected with
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a hematologist, the whole bit. So needless to say, it
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felt like somebody had knocked the wind out of you.
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Because at that moment, it's almost as if there was
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a stopwatch. for your child's life, just because of the
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impacts that sickle cell disease has on a person's life
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and the ability that it has to basically make people
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die early.
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Lemaitre's stopwatch has a name in medicine.
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People with sickle cell disease in 2026 have a life
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expectancy in the mid to late 40s, which is significantly
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lower than the general population.
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That's Dr. Hadar Frangoul. He directs the Pediatric Hematology, Oncology,
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and Stem Cell Transplant Program at TriStar Centennial Children's Hospital,
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the doctor who treated Ricky.
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And the reason why is because it affects every single
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organ in the body. It affects the brain, it affects
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the lung, the heart, the kidneys, the bones. and it
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affects overall health. So individuals with sickle cell disease actually
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continue to suffer from these complications throughout their life, and
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it is cumulative. The older they become, the more complications
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they have. Having said that, in now probably close to
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30 plus years ago, we discovered there is something called
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bone marrow transplantation, which is a transplant of the bone
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marrow cells from a family member, a brother or a
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sister that are not affected can potentially cure this disease.
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But unfortunately, 80% of people today with sickle cell disease
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in the United States do not have a brother or
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a sister that's a match to them. So that leaves
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80% of the people with sickle cell disease with no
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curative option. So what we did in the first patient
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in the world was treated in our hospital. Her name
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is Victoria Gray and she is very famous. She gives
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talks all over the place. I'm not violating HIPAA because
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she tells her story all the time. And she came
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to us because she wanted a very, very high risk
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transplant from her half brother. And she got scared about
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the complications because when you don't have a full match,
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there's a lot of complications. So we were running this
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trial here and she was the first patient in the
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whole world to receive this treatment. And this treatment in
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basic words is we take the stem cells out, we
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collect the stem cells from the blood of individuals with
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sickle cell disease, gene edit them using this CRISPR technology
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telling the cells to make high levels of fetal hemoglobin
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and put them back into the patient. Now, when we
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put them back in the person receiving them, we give
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them four days of chemotherapy to kill their cells that
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are making sickle. And those new cells start making high
832
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levels of fetal hemoglobin more than 40%. So the individuals
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with sickle cell disease become basically at trade with fetal hemoglobin.
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And what we have seen when we did these trials
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since 2019 is that individuals who receive this, the symptoms
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related to sickle cell disease totally go away. For example,
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Victoria Gray, again, as an example, Prior to receiving this therapy,
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she was hospitalized seven or eight times per year, and
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now she doesn't have any hospitalizations. She's never been hospitalized.
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She's taking care of her kids and enjoying life as
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somebody without the disease. So I think it's transformative in
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a sense that it allows every individual with sickle cell
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disease to to have a potential curative option for their disease.
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That science felt a long way off when Ricky was
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three years old, fighting for his life in a different way. Well,
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there was mention of a blood transfusion after an acute
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chest syndrome when Ricky was three.
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Can you walk me through that moment?
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What were you told and how did it change how
850
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you managed his care afterwards?
851
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Well, when babies or kids have sickle cell disease, it's
852
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oftentimes understood that if your baby has a fever, you
853
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take the baby to the hospital immediately because it's an emergency.
854
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And that's oftentimes because a fever may be the only
855
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sign that there is an infection brewing under the surface. Well,
856
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in his case, he had a fever, but that was it.
857
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Nothing else was wrong. He didn't have cough. He wasn't fidgety.
858
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He wasn't complaining about pain. And most times, if a
859
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.599
person sees that their baby has a fever, it's like, oh,
860
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I'll just give them some Tylenol or some ibuprofen and
861
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.800
let it go. Well, in sickle cell disease, I knew
862
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that that was not the correct option to undergo. And
863
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it's basically because people who have sickle cell disease, they
864
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have a compromised immune system.
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And babies and children... Pretty.
866
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Much acute chest syndrome is the leading cause of death
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before the age of five. So that's all the more
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reason why if a fever starts, you need to take
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them in immediately. So I took him into the hospital
870
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and they asked me what were the symptoms that he
871
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was having. And I was like, well, he only has
872
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a fever.
873
00:46:37.429 --> 00:46:37.820
That was it.
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That's the only reason why he's here is because he
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has a fever and this is the protocol. Well, because
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of that fever, they just decided, let's just, hey, let's
877
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just do a chest X-ray. just to see how things
878
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are going. And from that chest x-ray, you could see
879
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that he had infiltrates in his lungs. And that was
880
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a sign of acute chest syndrome. So with acute chest syndrome,
881
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that actually is when you have sickle cells that form
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in the lungs and they are able to reduce the
883
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amount of oxygen that happens. And in his case, his
884
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hemoglobin levels began to drop beyond what their baseline levels were.
885
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And that is what triggered the need to have a
886
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blood transfusion.
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That was Ricky at three years old, a decade of
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fights like that one were still ahead of him.
889
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I knew that organ damage was imminent. I knew that
890
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the risk of him having a stroke was as, you know,
891
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it didn't reduce over the years. It was actually, you know,
892
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just compounding. I knew that, um, sickle cell disease would
893
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begin to impact his life more and more because it
894
00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:48.659
doesn't get better as people get older. It just compounds
895
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and gets worse. So that's when I turned back to
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gene therapy.
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Did it work?
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You'll hear what LaMetra saw with her own eyes and
899
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get a full conversation on the Color Between the Lines
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podcast on iHeartRadio, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Esther Dillard.
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00:48:10.869 --> 00:48:13.949
For more information on gene therapy for sickle cell disease,
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visit TristarHealth.com. That's T-R-I-S-T-A-R-Health.com.
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Thanks again to Dr.
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Lemaitre Scott and Dr.
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Hadar Frangel.
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Coming up, Doug Davis is back with part two of
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his Your Black Business conversation with Complex Magazine's new vice
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00:48:30.570 --> 00:48:34.969
president of brand partnership, Mike Tresvant. Today's conversation will center
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on how companies can build a strong brand, the growing
911
00:48:38.329 --> 00:48:42.449
role of AI in media, and how his HBCU experience
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helped prepare him for success. Doug?
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Hey, thanks, Mike. I am Doug Davis, and this is
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Your Black Business.
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We continue our conversation about branding with Complex Magazine's new
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00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.500
Executive Vice President of Brand Development, Mike Trezvan.
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00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:56.440
Brother, welcome back.
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00:48:56.820 --> 00:48:59.599
Last week's conversation was so insightful, I felt it was
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00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.409
really important for us to bring you back. But before
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we get into more branding conversation, you graduated from HBCU
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Clark Atlanta University. How did the school prep you to
922
00:49:10.190 --> 00:49:12.000
become the business leader that you are today?
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00:49:12.420 --> 00:49:14.500
I think, well, there's a number of things. I think
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00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:21.099
there's the core curriculum is tailored specifically. to really prepare
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you for not just the fundamentals in biology, mathematics, but
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it also opens up and gives you a sense of
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a brighter world that understands the African-American contributions in all
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things in science, media, art, and all the things that
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often are overlooked. In PWIs, I think it's obviously mostly
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00:49:40.909 --> 00:49:44.239
celebrated of like European history or in the terms of
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history that is a historical landmark, as opposed to like
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the contribution of the African-American experience as it relates to
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all things in the world.
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Right.
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And I think that part sort of formidable years is
936
00:49:57.670 --> 00:50:00.789
an important part of like becoming very proud of who
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you are, especially, you know, as a black person living
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in America. I think that part of it was really
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important and eye-opening and sort of something that you can't
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00:50:11.429 --> 00:50:13.460
really know that you needed it until you get it.
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And I think that the second part of it, sort
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of personally, which, you know, they're obviously very intertwined, was
943
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that it was the first time for me going to
944
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a school I was just a kid going to school.
945
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I wasn't a black kid going to school, right? I
946
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:32.000
didn't feel other ever. Like the teachers were black, the
947
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:35.199
janitor was black. And they required us a lot more
948
00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:39.340
higher to overachieve with requiring things like internships. Like it
949
00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:42.219
was a requirement to graduate. You had to have internships
950
00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:46.239
in your field. So like that put me as a
951
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leg up when I was in the marketplace looking for
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a job that a lot of people I realized coming
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out of college, even to this day, I have, you know,
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nieces and nephews and godkids that struggle to see, like, okay,
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I don't know what I want to do. I was like, well,
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by the time I was a senior, I was like,
957
00:51:00.489 --> 00:51:03.829
had already worked two internships in my field and had
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00:51:03.849 --> 00:51:05.929
a better understanding of what I want to do versus
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00:51:05.969 --> 00:51:09.500
this constant theoretical, I don't know what I want to do,
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00:51:09.539 --> 00:51:10.880
but I have a lot of experience. I have a
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00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.159
lot of theoretical knowledge that I don't know what to
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00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:13.579
do with.
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Yeah, man.
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Very well put.
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I'm a product of an HBCU as well and got
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my first job in television right.
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Out of school. You know, it was actually... a career
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00:51:22.489 --> 00:51:23.550
fair that helped get me in.
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But like you, you know, I had to have an internship,
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you know, I had to have some practical something on paper,
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you know, and it really helped. For those who may
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00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.030
be listening right now, you know, even current business owners,
973
00:51:34.070 --> 00:51:36.489
you know, who just, you know, may not know, but
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00:51:36.690 --> 00:51:42.449
what are brands still misunderstanding about the relationship between culture
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00:51:43.130 --> 00:51:43.820
and commerce?
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00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.719
I think a lot of brands miss the ability to
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00:51:47.780 --> 00:51:51.130
be agile or quick. I think what happens in a
978
00:51:51.170 --> 00:51:54.480
lot of larger organizations as they want to be like,
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you know, it's really hard to keep up with the
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speed of culture. And, you know, there's a few brands
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00:52:00.809 --> 00:52:02.929
who have done it well. There's a few brands who struggle,
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00:52:02.949 --> 00:52:05.869
but I think that's where most larger organizations look to
983
00:52:05.909 --> 00:52:08.570
do is like some, they hop on a trend or
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00:52:08.650 --> 00:52:10.989
they want to be a part of something, but there's
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00:52:11.070 --> 00:52:14.570
either bureaucracy internally that gets in their way that doesn't
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allow them to be free and then attached to something.
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And by the time they get all their ducks in
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00:52:19.610 --> 00:52:21.820
a row to attach to something, it's already moved on
989
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.739
or Or it's oversaturated and they just become another person
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and they actually are working against the trend itself. Or
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00:52:29.750 --> 00:52:32.170
they haven't taken up a time, I think, to think
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00:52:32.250 --> 00:52:35.769
about what their POV is in a space.
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00:52:35.829 --> 00:52:36.050
Right.
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And what I mean by that is just like you
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00:52:38.210 --> 00:52:41.070
don't need to insert your large brand into culture for
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00:52:41.110 --> 00:52:43.949
the sake of that. You really, as I mentioned before,
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00:52:43.989 --> 00:52:46.969
like the younger generation is always going to be about authenticity,
998
00:52:47.010 --> 00:52:49.710
no matter what generation you look at. Young people are
999
00:52:49.750 --> 00:52:53.090
looking at the definition of what's defining them and people
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00:52:53.179 --> 00:52:54.920
and brands that they're going to be associated with for
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00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.420
their life. And that is a really big, intimate, emotional thing.
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00:52:58.880 --> 00:52:59.420
Connection.
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00:52:59.739 --> 00:53:02.280
And so your point of differentiation has to come from
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00:53:02.380 --> 00:53:05.219
something meaningful, but it also has to be providing an
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00:53:05.340 --> 00:53:09.070
additive portion to the person's life or profile. And I
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00:53:09.139 --> 00:53:12.809
think if you spend time crafting that thing out, you
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00:53:12.849 --> 00:53:16.150
will find we have always worked with clients who take
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00:53:16.190 --> 00:53:18.809
the time to really find out what they stand for
1009
00:53:19.269 --> 00:53:21.329
from the inside out, which is always going to be
1010
00:53:21.429 --> 00:53:24.170
help in creating when you come to our sort of
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00:53:24.230 --> 00:53:27.570
portion of intersection with the audience of like that storytelling
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00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:31.489
that matters. Versus sort of wedging yourself in there without
1013
00:53:31.989 --> 00:53:33.329
a lot more thoughtful curation.
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00:53:33.889 --> 00:53:34.150
Right.
1015
00:53:34.710 --> 00:53:38.030
What do young Black audiences, what do you think they
1016
00:53:38.090 --> 00:53:42.170
want from media outlets like Complex and brands that they're
1017
00:53:42.210 --> 00:53:43.710
not getting enough of these days?
1018
00:53:44.190 --> 00:53:46.380
I think they I mean, we always look to say
1019
00:53:46.449 --> 00:53:51.840
that we're trying to continue to elevate voices in the fray.
1020
00:53:52.610 --> 00:53:56.280
An audience in subcultures that maybe not that people are
1021
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.539
not as familiar with. I think that's the sort of
1022
00:53:58.579 --> 00:54:00.929
the benefit of this generation is that they have found
1023
00:54:00.949 --> 00:54:03.190
each other. In all parts of the world and all
1024
00:54:03.210 --> 00:54:06.190
parts of the country and have created a larger community.
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00:54:06.230 --> 00:54:08.119
I think one of our, you know, we don't we
1026
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.789
talk about this sort of you know, live experiences, but
1027
00:54:11.829 --> 00:54:15.050
really that is community, right? Like live experiences really are
1028
00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:17.909
a reflection back of community. So whether it is a food,
1029
00:54:18.429 --> 00:54:21.230
our food festival, or whether it's ComplexCon, it's really talking
1030
00:54:21.289 --> 00:54:23.349
about people who enjoy the same sort of things. And
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00:54:23.389 --> 00:54:26.170
I think that is what, you know, especially for a
1032
00:54:26.210 --> 00:54:28.650
young Black audience across the world and even in parts
1033
00:54:28.670 --> 00:54:32.989
of the country where they aren't heavily populated, you know,
1034
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I think Complex is always going to and tries to
1035
00:54:35.750 --> 00:54:41.159
be that moment that feels like they're being inspired and recognized,
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which is really the human side of our brand.
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Great segue into my next question. How does Complex use AI?
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00:54:48.610 --> 00:54:52.190
I think we use it more as a resource to
1039
00:54:52.230 --> 00:54:55.869
sort of not just, like while AI can help us
1040
00:54:55.929 --> 00:55:02.420
resource and pull information about stories or information or subjects,
1041
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.460
it doesn't allow us What AI can't do and which
1042
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is complex as always has been its its superpower is
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taste and curation and understanding why something is important and
1044
00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:19.659
not just reporting it back as something that's happened. I
1045
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think our brand equity is largely rooted in our perspective
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and our. deeply rooted understanding of both something that is
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nice aesthetically, but also why it's nice aesthetically and the
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historical origin of where it comes from, whether it's music
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pieces through samples and the origin of like artists and
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where their perspective, or if it's from a fashion perspective,
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I think a media company in today's world is only
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going to be as good as its true understanding of culture.
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And that comes from the inside out, which is why
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AI can help us understand and curate, I mean, pull
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things together. It cannot help with the actual curation.
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Right, right, right.
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Hey, let's segue real quick before we wrap up and
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talk about your 10th anniversary of ComplexCon coming up.
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ComplexCon, yeah, so it really truly is the convergence of culture.
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It really surrounds itself from all parts of intersectionality. I think,
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you know, on the top line, it's headliner big brands
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that are coming to really have a sort of a
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first-to-market interaction with consumers, either it's existing one-of-a-kind collaborations in
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ways of a number of collaborations from a celebrity or
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streetwear perspective where consumers are allowed to finally get a
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limited edition collab from their favorite streetwear brands. But it's
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also allowed for brands to show up with their innovation
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and creativity and have consumers interact and intersect with their
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brands in a way for the first time and get
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a better understanding of like, not only do I like,
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you know, for example, a pixel, but this might be
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the first time that I get to actually interact with
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one and see what they really stand for. And I
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think that is really sort of at the crux of
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what ComplexCon is. It's, you know, it's, it's the, it
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is the commerce sort of hub while the lifestyle is
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sort of sprinkled all over it. I think there is
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a celebration of sneakers. We have conversations. So it's really
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like a three part sort of experience. There's the shopping experience,
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which is the larger part of it. There's the musical
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performances that happen at night. And then there's the conversations
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with the panels that are happening throughout the day that really,
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you know, heighten and elevate the conversation about culture. And
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then the sort of the fourth leg of that is
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where the brand partners show up, where you have brands, again,
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00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.579
either interacting and collaborating with some of the artists and
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00:57:48.619 --> 00:57:52.050
celebrities or other brands. to give consumers things and products
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00:57:52.090 --> 00:57:54.929
and experiences that are really sort of valuable. And it's
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all done through the lens of culture. And this is
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sort of really how it happens at this ComplexCon, which,
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you know, excited it'll be in Los Angeles. It's October
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3rd and 4th. It's our first time at the convention center.
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So we're excited to be back in Los Angeles. We
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historically were in Long Beach and then we took it
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to Vegas for a couple of years. The first couple
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of years when we took over Complex and now we're
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back at Los Angeles and we're super excited.
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Mike Tresvon, any relation to Ralph? You know, I had
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to ask.
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Yes, there's the question, man.
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Come on.
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Took you too long to ask.
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Come on.
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You know, I had to get to the good stuff first.
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You know what I'm saying?
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No, that is Mike.
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Like, so our grandfathers were brothers?
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Yeah. And so Brunswick, Georgia, small town.
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I thought I was the only Tresman in the world
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until I went to Brunswick, Georgia. And I was like, oh,
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here we are. Like, he's from Boston, so I'm not
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going to pretend to know him, but we are cousins.
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Wow.
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How cool is that?
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Mike Tresvant, Complex Magazine's new executive vice president of brand development.
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We appreciate your time, sir. This is Doug Davis on
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Your Black Business. Now back to Mike Island.
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Thanks, Doug and Mike. For more information, go to complex.com.
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