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This is the average to savage podcast, with ball Greno everyone in anyone athletes,
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so ebs and much more so up. Everybody. On back for another
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episode of the average savage podcast.
Or special guests? Today is Pro Basketball
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Player Jeff Adrian. Jeff, how's
it going? Good, man's just chilling
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up that I rea Israel, grinding
out every day. You know, Ye,
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appreciate you coming on that downy.
So let's go back in time.
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How did you first get involved in
basketball? My Fifth Great Teacher signed me
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up for recreation basketball and Brookline and
I've been playing pretty much organized basketball ever
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since then. You just fell in
love with it, pretty much. Yeah,
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did you play any other sports growing
up? Y, I play football,
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basketball and baseball, a little bit
of soccer. All right, what
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about what about high like Wich sports
did you play in high school? High
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School, my freshman year I played
all three sports. I stopped playing football.
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My Sophomore Year I played baseball and
basketball. My junior years stopped playing
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baseball and I just played basketball,
and then my senior year I came back
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and I played football and in basketball. Gotcha. Gotcha, and I always
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ask people this like because everyone has
different story. What was your recruiting process.
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Like I know you went to a
year of prep school to it was
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cools exciting that should I remember getting
letters and competiculous. At first it was
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like the letters was amazing to me. I thought was one of the greatest
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things ever. And then as soon
as I started going to these bigger tournaments,
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he's and like being on a Nike
circuit and seeing these coaches firsthand and
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then actually getting the word of mouth, like word from like my AU coach,
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that this school has interesting, that
has interested me and stuff like that,
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it became more like the letters were
great, but like these verbal you
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know, these verbal words and these
verbal talks with like my you know,
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I knew my own my AU coach
winning, steering me wrong, anything like
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that. That was that was it
right there. That would that open my
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mind up to, you know,
believing that I could play high division on
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basketball. You remember what you're like? First letter or first offer us,
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Um, I don't remember exactly.
It could have been from maybe Unh University,
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you and you answer there's a few
New England, new Englan schools.
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I remember going to private is basketball
games, probably his college basketball games,
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then getting letters. I was getting. I didn't really get like letters like
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saying hey, we want to be
cry. I was already talking to the
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coach and I already knew like they
wanted me. So, like the letters
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that we get, was like more
like hey, it was nice talking to
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you the other day, such and
such, we have you know where well,
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we we want you here, you
know, such stuff like that.
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There's probably send me some stats.
Before I got like before I got like
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letters of like like you know,
like handwritten letters, I was just getting
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my school information on the school and
stuff like that. So what at first
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I was probably just like the basic
like hey, we have interest in you,
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and they probably send that to like
a lot of kids and stuff like
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that. Yeah, and I'll get
like their information on who they play.
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Like I remember you and age played
like Florida that year and I just seen
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that stat and it was just trying
to get me to, you know,
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obviously have some interest in them and
say they again, we do play high
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you know, high schools, but
I already knew in my mind I wanted
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to play high schools every game.
Yeah, so I just, you know,
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I just believed and eventually, like
I never got a I don't think
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I got a letter from Yukon.
I remember coach Calhoun was there and he's
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like hey, we're going to offer
you. Pretty much right there and then
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I was and that was in then, like Ucla and all these other schools
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game. It was never like a
we're going to offer, but it was
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never a letter saying that they will
offering. It was more verbal and all
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that got. Yeah, I'm assuming
it was way different back in there.
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That was problem. Was I like
in two thousand and five is because I
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fi two thousand and four other five
school for year, but two thousand fo
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US still getting letters yet. Yeah, so I'm saying it's probably like way
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different. I mean I know it's
way different now, like you know right,
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people are getting for they just throw
everybody letter, I mean, and
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it's way easier to act as players
now. Right. So what was your
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ultimate? So how did you how
did the Yukon thing come are you're at
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it like a you tournament or something? Yeah, I was at the piece
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share. I was peace him in
in South Carolina. It's a Nike Circle
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and we played team Texas first game
of the tournament and I just bought out
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that game. I had a great
game. We won and pretty much Yukon
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offered me right there, not not
face to face, but they were stay
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till they were talking to my coaching
the time. I was Leo propelled and
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was like, you know, they
had interests and you pretty much will offer
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you. Leo was talking to me
about some other stuff and then, you
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know, kept playing. They kept
coming to the Games and they just like
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the way I played and they kept
with it and I'm sure that's when I
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probably started getting what was in the
summertime I was probably getting probably the phone
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call or whatever it was, and
other schools started calling those having conversations with
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them. Arizona, UCLA, like
I said, Kansas, Pittsburgh. So
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all these schools was was coming at
me during this Paceham tournament back in the
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summer of once a two thousand and
for God after and then we'll go to
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them for and then what was your
what was the ultimate decision to pick you
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came. Then that summer I went
on. Since I reclassified, I had
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a five new official visits, so
I went to Pittsburgh and went to Yukon.
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I cut it down from Pittsburgh UK
on it and kids has and I
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took the visit to you corn.
Obviously was kind of close. I took
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the visit to Pittsburgh and after the
Pittsburgh trip I was like I was kind
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of tired to I was like,
you know, I don't even think I
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need to go to Kansas because I
was already on the road that whole summer
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and as I don't think I need
to go in Kansas, I already have
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the feeling that like I know.
I had to feel I know where I
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want to go, and that was
you can. And there was still some
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school sending me letters actually, but
it was still like it wasn't it wasn't
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enough. A letter that the time
wasn't enough. A phone call would have
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been better. Yeah, but you
know, it was that. That was
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pretty much it right there and then. That's how I knew that summer going
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into PRESCO, I wanted to go
to Uka Gosh for Roucher. And then,
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overall, what's your was your experience? Like a you can. It
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was unbelievable. It was. It
was everything that I've imagine. I remember
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taking visits to like my senior year
to like right state and like Nebraska schools
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like that, and I was just
like, you know, I was amazed
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by them, like just by just
their cock, their life, they're coaching
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everything and like they they impressed me
as a good visits, but I knew,
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like if I went to such and
such school, I know it would
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be even better of experience and it
will be a lot closer to home.
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And and you call was just pretty
much everything was like almost all those schools,
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and one so amazing made it easier. Obviously it was, you can,
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but you know what I mean.
And then, yeah, I'm sure
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your family got to go to your
games and stuff. Right, right,
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right. And what did it mean
to you to become a named captain of
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the team's senior it was cool.
I mean, it wasn't it would like,
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you know, going into you kind
of never really thought I just thought
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about playing. Yeah, but since
I was really one of the youngest players,
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and then all of a sudden I
became one of the oldest players within
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a year. I really took notes. I really learned how to become a
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leader, how to become, you
know, a good student athlete, how
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to get stuff done at a high
level playing basketball and being a student.
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And from then on I pretty much
had to, you know, lead by
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example. Not Every day, you
know, and I every day was you
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know, the way you wanted to
go, but you still find ways to
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get stuff done and to pass it
along. And so pretty much from sophomore
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years to senior year, I had
to, you know, reinvent certain things
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and and and still remember things that
to pass that taught me. So,
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like you know, it was great. It was. It was a great
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experience on and off the court.
Being a captain was a great experience,
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and especially on the court like that
was where, you know, natural abilities,
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natural stuff came to effect. You
know, just, you know,
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being leading by example in the weight
room, if we had to do sprints,
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you know, just being out there
and with the guys and, you
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know, running with them, trying
to finish first or whatever, pushing guys,
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you know, whatever it is,
whatever the case was, you know,
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like you know, I found a
way to get it done and to
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help others. I think that's what, you know, I've learned. That's
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what I learned from the past,
guys before me, and I was glad
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so, you know, pass it
on. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
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I was looking at the rosters and
it was like you're your freshman,
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you're like I think it was like
mostly like ot of juniors and seniors and
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like you know that left for the
NBA and stuff. And then I think,
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I think you're, I want to
say you're sophomore and junior. You
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guys had no seniors, se right, Senor. There was some bolder guys.
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There was the walk on. Yeah, I can't say I did it
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all by myself, but they were
still walk on. You know, there
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was a craig astree still there,
those Marcus Johnson, you know, there
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were still guys that that that help
that we all grew together and help grow,
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you know, other guys that came
on after us. And then going
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into like the NBA draft two thousand
and nine, what were your expectations and,
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like, what kind of training did
you go through? Well, okay,
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I want to my actually taste was
obviously to get drafted. That's that's
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all that expectations was that. Yukon
was basically, you know, a student
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athlete. You know you play basketball, you know you do well in school
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and hopefully go play professional basketball at
the highest level or, you know,
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overseas like I'm doing now, which
is nothing wrong with that. So at
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the time probably thinking that, you
know, I want to get drafted,
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probably doesn't matter where. I probably
felt like I earned to get drafted.
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But, but, but, you
know, sitting back now, it's not
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always about what you feel or what
you thought you earn. S Real I
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guess the way the ball bounce,
you know. So I look back at
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it, my senior year, after
the final four, I went to train
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actually out west with a couple other
college guys and you know, my my
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draft, my draft workouts, all
that started and it was different because the
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game was different. You know,
was a college basketball. There's a lane,
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if the three seconds is all these
things you got to learn. You
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know, me being other size,
I had to understand the game even more
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where like where I had to find
my spots and learn my spots and had
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to develop, you know, certain
more of a game, to develop a
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game besides just how to bully people
or whatever I was doing in college.
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You know, it wasn't all about
that. So I went out there and
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I train with guys this time,
say and workouts, saying do workouts,
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individual basketball skill work. Then I
went to all these workouts. It's a
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lot of workouts. I didn't go
to forget that Camping Huh and in Virginia,
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but didn't go to that. I
went to the COMBA. I got
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invited to the combine, that the
drafted, all those tests. You know,
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I had pretty good workouts, you
know, obviously. You know,
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like I said, I gus.
You know, the ball didn't bounce the
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way bounce that day. Everything happens
for a reason. I still found a
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way to make it. And Yeah, so did that. Being on drafted.
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That did that fuel your fire?
Yeah, definitely at the time.
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Yeah, like you know, it
had to, because me growing up watching
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pretty much NBA basketball, like every
every night, Celtics, especially with reality
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being on the team, and just
before that I watching the bulls growing up
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and the Lakers and all. You
know this, all these teams like just
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you know, it's watching basketball.
It's just obviously the thing to do if
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you're if you play basketball like Europe
style of play was not on TV as
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much, you know, so it
wasn't too intriguing to me. I did
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never was, not like you know, in my like picture, you know.
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I mean it's not like something like
I like, I didn't want to
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do. Obviously I didn't right at
the college, and even that help me
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learn, to help me make it
to the NBA. And you make the
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Golden State Warriors all that stuff was
all like, you know, learned,
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like learning it and learning the game
was all the process and they all,
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to me at benefited from it.
That definitely learned from every second. I
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grew, I became better, I
started understanding my skill and, like I
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said, helped me make it to
the highest level of basketball. Yeah,
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definitely your first your first season,
you went over to Spain. So what
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was that like? Just going overseas? Well, that was different. That's
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when I like, that's the first
time me leaving the country. Yeah,
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right by myself, not as a
baby. Right, this is like this
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is totally different. I'm going to
Spain, like it's like I'm away from
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my mom now, more than an
hour and a half away from my mom.
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You know, that was just a
completely different day and something I'm you
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know, I knew some teams had
like advised me, like, like I
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can remember like the Spurs and the
Celtics. Spurs would say, Hey,
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you know, get a passport.
Stings like hey, we would drive you,
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but we're going to keep you overseas. So there were certain things that,
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like there was there was hints.
There was definitely people looking out and
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pretty much letting me know, like
Hey, get ready, but it's never
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over, you know, but get
ready to go play basketball somewhere else.
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And that's what happened. So reality
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there and I played pretty well.
Like you know, it wasn't it wasn't
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like college. You know, I'm
when I first got out there I felt
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like like it was simple, like
it could have been close to call allege,
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but it was it was totally different. The Lane was a trap was
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ord lane, I think at the
time, or either either way as a
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trappers or lane, or it was
a wider lane. So the my post
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up game was a little different.
I had to adjust to that. Had
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to adjust to the travel, slowing
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to, you know, not travel. All that stuff was was a learned
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experience and at the same time as
playing for money. So yeah, like
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it was my first time doing all
that. We had a pretty good year
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with the playoffs, but I knew
during the time, like I wanted to
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be back home. I was still
staying up watch the NBA Games and and
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all that, and I knew like
the next season I was like, you
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know what, I'm going to stay
over there. You know, if I
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had to go to the dle.
I'm going to do that. You know,
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that's what pretty much happened. I
made it, I got cut and
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went to the D League and I
made it again and yeah, yeah,
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there don't here. So going into
that year, what was it? What
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was your first NBA game? Like, I know you signed with the warriors.
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First NBA game we played? We
played the Lakers and I want to
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say it was on Halloween, or
I think it was. It be it
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was on Halloween or orange sneakers.
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we're in the yeah, they were. You had the yeah, the Old
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Jersey's on the navy ones, right, I thought we they still they said,
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have the blue. kind of that
kind of kind of switched up this
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year, but it was still like
that. I rollable the royal blue on
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the yellow and stuff like that,
the bridge and all that. So it
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was. It was a Halloween game. was on the row, you know,
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is it was? No, no, no, actually, my first
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game was against Houston. Actually that
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first road game. They introduced me, they did all that, like you
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know, I came down from the
bleachers. I had no idea I was
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going to play coach coach called my
numberical smart called me and I played that
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game and I was real nervous.
I've never I was nervous. But you
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know, I don't think I played
bad. I don't think I didn't.
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I don't think I did anything special
that night, but most likely I probably,
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you know, made a presence.
I probably did something. You know.
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Obviously the too stay around for a
little bit and eventually I stayed for
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a little bit, if that out
during that time due to injury. I
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think that's the reason why I got
cut the first time from from my golden
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state. If that ain't happened,
I don't think I think I was still
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would have been there probably the whole
entire year. But you know, things
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happened. But yeah, I remember
play Houston eventually. Then Houston was the
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next team I played for. So
yeah, pretty ironic. And then,
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yeah, then the following year there
was a lockouts you when you went to
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Italy and then you came back and
then you're on the rockets. So that
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wasn't another crazy yer because you were
backing for with only that one. Definitely
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was. That definitely was. But
I definitely had, you know, good
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guys around that a good fete in
Brian Scalabrini out there in Italy, playing
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with us, playing with me.
Eat. One more still, the League
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Alex Gentier, that that made a
run. That's, you know, he's
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pretty popular in Europe, in Monty
units. That ended up playing in Houston
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too. So I was still,
you know, young at the time and
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Brian was there and he would,
you know, keep me, you know,
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levelheaded because well, obviously there was
no NB at the time, but
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I knew the game was totally different
and he knew the game was totally different.
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So the coach, the coach,
you know, was a little different.
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He was he was real tough Georgia
Bitch, which you know. Now
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I look back at it, I
was like wow, he was. He's
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a great coach. Now look back
his success from then until now, it's
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been, you know, very good, like top in Europe. I'm,
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you know, I'm very lucky.
I got caught coach, I got I
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got to be coached by him and
he definitely, you know, he pushed
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us. He pushed us. We
was a good team. We definitely had
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to, you know, be pushed. We was young, we was good,
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we had talent. He definitely,
you know, we wasn't there too
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long, but there was a point
where coach to where the the the at
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the at the lockout ended. We
started putting a lot of things together and
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it was kind of too late and
I was like the last one to be
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like, you know, to go
back. Each one went back, for
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I went back and then I went
back back to the league, to them
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being while while Gab got the call
here, he ended up playing for Dallas.
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Eventually, while they stayed and you
know, had to you know,
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play basketball without this, without,
you know, guys that's playing at the
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highest level in Gentila, eventually went
to Milan and so a team was definitely
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because they you know, different.
I was a whole different team, but
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you could tell that we had tally
like all those guys, like five guys,
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fives these guys from that team playing
NBA basketball. So that was definitely
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a great experience. Then I went
to Houston and that was a thousand experience
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of his own. The whole style, the whole everything of it was,
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you know, learned experience of it. It was a learned it was a
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great learning experience. You know,
this is the nature of the game.
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So, you know, I got
cut again and then you know, I
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wasn't. I didn't think I should
have got cut, but you know,
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it is what it is, and
I went back to went back overseas to
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Europe and went to Kimki and play
basketball again. Went to the finals,
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went to the Russian the Russian League
finals. We lost in CHESCA. That
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was it, and there's a few
years after that. I went back and
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being I stayed for a little bit
longer and I don't think I got cut
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or anything. Bob, that's right, right with the bad guys. What
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was that? I was at like
playing with Kemba again. That was cool.
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Then it was there was death play
great, you know, like playing
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with him, knowing his work ethic, doing my work ethic and and helping
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him, obviously, because I've obviously
was in the league before, helping him,
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you know, grow and become,
you know, a player that he
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needs to be, and that who
he is now, definitely, you know.
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You know, I enjoyed all that. I enjoyed, you know,
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being around all the younger guys at
the time and, you know, doing
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things that we weren't supposed to be
doing, like we be we went into
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Chicago and in Newi, in New
Year's and we want a road game after
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losing my seventeen straight my first year
in the babcats like that was great.
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That was fun right there. We
had a lot of fun time. We,
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you know, obviously wasn't going to
make the playoffs, but we knew
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that, like you know, any
given days we came together, we could
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really, you know, make some
noise and beat a team and beat decent
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team, be very good teams,
I should say. At the time the
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Bulls was probably number one seed in
the in the east, so coast to
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it, and we beat them at
their crib and that was real memorable my
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first year and with the BAB cats
country. I here and then you went
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on, you got you actually got
traded the following her from the back outs.
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What was that like? Getting treated? That was different, because now
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where, that where the team that's
like we're like six or seven the a
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see now and I'm part of a
team that like I know my role now,
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I know when certain players go down
or whatever. You get hurt,
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I know I'm gonna be ready and
the coaches not playing me this amount of
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minutes and I already know what to
expect. So now I feel like,
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you know, I feel better about
myself. I feel more confident. I
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know I'm going to sell in the
role and we're going to win a lot
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of the Times. We won a
lot of games. You know, I
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got traded. They kept playing well, they made the playoffs. So I
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felt like I still made the playoffs, but at the same time, like
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I know that, like I got
a chance to expand my game, I
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got a chance to show my game
where I wasn't playing like, you know,
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just fifteen minutes now I'm playing like
you know, twenty, twenty five
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and twenty five. Obviously I earned
the minutes to finish out the year,
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to play thirty games with the bucks
and as she played pretty much all dirty
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games and play well and, you
know, do things that I'm sure nobody
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ever expected to me to do.
Was Great, like, you know,
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even though I got traded from from
Charlotte and everything, they they went on
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had they went on, went to
the playoffs. I went on and play
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great basketball, probably probably the best
Bass I've ever played in my life.
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And so, you know, at
that time, like both teams were for
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me, as you say, both
parties won. Like I didn't end up
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signing with the bucks, but you
know, I helped you on his grow.
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I feel like you know now he's
obviously MVP. So I play on
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playing with Yana's I helped Chris grow
branding night. You know, those guys
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are like you know those thirty games, like we built something and I helped
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build something and now you're watching it. Now you watching is this Oba play
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basketball with them. There's still a
lot of those guys on the team and
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you know, you see how great
they are now and I felt like I
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was a part of that also.
Yeah, yeah, and then then you're
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following your he played for a timberwolves
and I know Kevin Garnett was on there.
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So what was that like? Well, kg came on after I left.
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I got came probing. But but
me watching kg like throughout like my
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high school career, basic using my
college career and in a little bit,
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obviously, in my professional career.
But he always motivating, even though like
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I've never I've really I played against
them and never I met him maybe once.
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But just his intensity, is his
desire of playing like defense with him,
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him wanting to be like at the
anchor. He he didn't think about
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scoring like that. He knew his
role, he knew what it took to
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be great and helped to stuff his
win a championship, and I always admired
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that. I always, you know, enjoyed watching him do that, be
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a defensive anchor for the clubtics at
the time. And you know, I
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felt like I carried that like with
me without him even knowing it. I
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felt like I was just maybe,
you know, you call me a waller.
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Kg's not as tall as it as
Quig as him, but his intensity
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defensively, like his taught his his
communication on the court, his leadership.
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I took a lot of notes,
like I took a lot of notes,
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and also had Ray island that would
come in and again, know at Yukon
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and, you know, tell us
like how vocal kgd is and such and
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such, and he would he would
offer you pass a touchine and also pass
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it to me, obviously, and
you know, like I took notes,
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I paid attention to that when he
was talking, when you would talk to
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us across the stuff like that.
And so, yeah, I did you
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play with kg I played against them. They did he talk trasty? Not,
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I think, because I don't need
touch drasted. I don't know why.
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Doesn't you know? So I guess
it is what it is, you
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know, but I wasn't. It
wasn't like that with me kg. And
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then, I know, the last
three years you've been killing it over in
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Israel. Even all star three years
in a roun. So what's that,
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man? What's it been like in
Israel? Well, the first two years
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has been I said, the first
year was, you know, was great.
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You know, we did a lot
of things, a lot of great
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things, got a lot of wins, got a lot of European wins,
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made all star. You know,
we was winning, you know, and
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the thing the next year was more
like more didn't win as much, but
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personally, like I played great basketball
again, a score that, you know,
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scored out a pretty great rate,
rebound a pretty good rate. You
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know, I defend it. Did
all that pretty good way. We it
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just didn't translate to to winning.
And then the last year, like,
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you know, and he's I know
you mentioned, you know, all star
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three years and in a row.
It's the last year. It was cool.
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It's cool always to be all stuff. is also better to win.
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I thought probably would have felt better
to win and be an all star,
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you know, like it just it
just feels been like my second year,
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I know there was an effort,
like I got ended up getting player the
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months. So that's why I like
my second my second year wasn't like it's
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like, you know, I still
hold I still they got deserved to be
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an Allstar. Not Saying last year
I didn't deserve to be one, but
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like we didn't win like we should
have. Not as it's not the same
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like my first. Second Year it's
been cool and I'm playing basketball, you
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know, you know I'm playing like
that's all I really wanted to do is
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play basketball at professional, high level. And he yeah, yeah, I
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got a few more than all you
go. What advice would you give young
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basketball player trying to get a d
one scholarship or trying to go bro Class,
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trying to go pray high schools,
try to go pro now, I
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mean like you know, you're getting
a trying to get to do one scholarship,
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or like a player, like going
from college to pro. I'll tell
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them, I would tell them my
college coach us to tell me to get
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my work done early, meaning like
if you put in the work, if
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you if you do what you need
to do, everything else is out your
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hands. You know, you can't
really worry about what you can't control.
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So if you know you put in
the work, if you know you ran
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an extra mile, you've already did
it. You didn't early, you got
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up early and you you got your
extra shots. There's nothing to worry about.
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There's nothing to panic about, because
a lot of things that certain players
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will majority, a lot of players
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how a young age, nobody was
really there. So so like, you
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know, let me know, like
a politics of the Games. Now I
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know like a little bit more of
it, but the guys that's coming into
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the game, I would I would
tell him not to worry, not to
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think too deeply about you know,
you might go to get this scholarship or
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or am I going to get drafted, or am I going to get this
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or my going to sign this contract
overseas? All that first out of your
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hands. You know, if you
know you put in the work and you
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put you put the time in,
you have nothing to worry about, because
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somebody's always watching, you know,
especially now it's media. Right, all
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right, last ones. I got
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average savage ready, average the savage. Yeah, but your your favorite song
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right now. My Favorite Song Right
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look I got a few songs the
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You know will really back mellow jam
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me like before the game? Sometimes
I'll listen to some things very day,
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some days in very I always crazy
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these out now. What about?
Why are you were number four for?
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Is that? Few reasons? I'm
gonna give you a couple. I'm growing
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up. My high school numbers really
thirty one and you could almost say as
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retires really good like, you know, little special times. You know,
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I did what I did? A
lot of special things with that numbers.
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You know, it's kind of hard
to repeat it, but so I kind
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of have to ward sense. But
I knew for with the something I would
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like, and I think I'm still
finding out the meanings of why I like
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for still to this day, and
at the one of the reasons why.
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I remember watching Chris Porter and Kenyan
Martin back in the day and they both
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were number for in college basketball and
you know, I like I like the
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way the number look, you know, the the whole, you know,
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is everything about it just single kison
number effect. It was sleek, it
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was nice and to me and fit
me, and so those those two reasons
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right there. I remember the challenge
when I got to UK on when coach
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Moore told me what I told him
I wanted to wear, for he told
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me, you know, who are
his number. I was like yeah,
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thank God he's and you know,
that's big shoes to fill to me.
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That was a challenge right there.
He challenged me, rely challenge me there,
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you know, to obviously keep the
number going, keep it, you
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know, doing what it's supposed to
be doing, like like bg did right
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before I got there, right before
right before me. So that was another
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challenge. And then through life there's
just all these other meanings, more meanings
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that is kept coming to me to
why, you know, I chose a
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number. I think to this day
I'm still find out more meanings, more
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reasons why. You know, I
like for it's crazy. It's last one.
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Would you like to do when you're
not playing basketball? What do you
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do in the free time? I
brain storm a lot, I think.
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Well, I know I bring storm
a lot. I like to come up
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with new ideas. I chill,
I shop online a little bit, video
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video games. Yeah, play Video
Games, play mad int K spider man.
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little bit of everything. You know, sometimes I put a top golfs when
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you're the twins. Work on my
golf game. You know, I don't
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think I'm there yet. I think
I'm still young. I don't think I
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need to make golf here. But
yeah, just you know this, not
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to not to think, not to
things out of the ordinary. You know,
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nothing like you know I lay in
this or anything like that. Just
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you know I probably bring storm at
yeah. Well, I appreciate you coming
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on and I could do with the
people know where they can follow you on
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social media. You can follow me
at the read the underscore reason with the
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four games. He underscore ore e
the number for as zero and you can
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follow me. All right. Again, appreciate you coming up, I don't
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doubt and pre stays you for
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This is the average to savage podcast, with ball Greno everyone in anyone athletes,
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so ebs and much more so up. Everybody. On back for another
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episode of the average savage podcast.
Or special guests? Today is Pro Basketball
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Player Jeff Adrian. Jeff, how's
it going? Good, man's just chilling
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up that I rea Israel, grinding
out every day. You know, Ye,
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appreciate you coming on that downy.
So let's go back in time.
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How did you first get involved in
basketball? My Fifth Great Teacher signed me
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up for recreation basketball and Brookline and
I've been playing pretty much organized basketball ever
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since then. You just fell in
love with it, pretty much. Yeah,
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did you play any other sports growing
up? Y, I play football,
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basketball and baseball, a little bit
of soccer. All right, what
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about what about high like Wich sports
did you play in high school? High
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School, my freshman year I played
all three sports. I stopped playing football.
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My Sophomore Year I played baseball and
basketball. My junior years stopped playing
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baseball and I just played basketball,
and then my senior year I came back
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and I played football and in basketball. Gotcha. Gotcha, and I always
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ask people this like because everyone has
different story. What was your recruiting process.
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Like I know you went to a
year of prep school to it was
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cools exciting that should I remember getting
letters and competiculous. At first it was
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like the letters was amazing to me. I thought was one of the greatest
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things ever. And then as soon
as I started going to these bigger tournaments,
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he's and like being on a Nike
circuit and seeing these coaches firsthand and
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then actually getting the word of mouth, like word from like my AU coach,
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that this school has interesting, that
has interested me and stuff like that,
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it became more like the letters were
great, but like these verbal you
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know, these verbal words and these
verbal talks with like my you know,
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I knew my own my AU coach
winning, steering me wrong, anything like
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that. That was that was it
right there. That would that open my
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mind up to, you know,
believing that I could play high division on
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basketball. You remember what you're like? First letter or first offer us,
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Um, I don't remember exactly.
It could have been from maybe Unh University,
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you and you answer there's a few
New England, new Englan schools.
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I remember going to private is basketball
games, probably his college basketball games,
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then getting letters. I was getting. I didn't really get like letters like
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saying hey, we want to be
cry. I was already talking to the
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coach and I already knew like they
wanted me. So, like the letters
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that we get, was like more
like hey, it was nice talking to
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you the other day, such and
such, we have you know where well,
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we we want you here, you
know, such stuff like that.
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There's probably send me some stats.
Before I got like before I got like
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letters of like like you know,
like handwritten letters, I was just getting
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my school information on the school and
stuff like that. So what at first
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I was probably just like the basic
like hey, we have interest in you,
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and they probably send that to like
a lot of kids and stuff like
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that. Yeah, and I'll get
like their information on who they play.
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Like I remember you and age played
like Florida that year and I just seen
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that stat and it was just trying
to get me to, you know,
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obviously have some interest in them and
say they again, we do play high
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you know, high schools, but
I already knew in my mind I wanted
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to play high schools every game.
Yeah, so I just, you know,
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I just believed and eventually, like
I never got a I don't think
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I got a letter from Yukon.
I remember coach Calhoun was there and he's
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like hey, we're going to offer
you. Pretty much right there and then
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I was and that was in then, like Ucla and all these other schools
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game. It was never like a
we're going to offer, but it was
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never a letter saying that they will
offering. It was more verbal and all
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that got. Yeah, I'm assuming
it was way different back in there.
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That was problem. Was I like
in two thousand and five is because I
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fi two thousand and four other five
school for year, but two thousand fo
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US still getting letters yet. Yeah, so I'm saying it's probably like way
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different. I mean I know it's
way different now, like you know right,
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people are getting for they just throw
everybody letter, I mean, and
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it's way easier to act as players
now. Right. So what was your
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ultimate? So how did you how
did the Yukon thing come are you're at
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it like a you tournament or something? Yeah, I was at the piece
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share. I was peace him in
in South Carolina. It's a Nike Circle
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and we played team Texas first game
of the tournament and I just bought out
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that game. I had a great
game. We won and pretty much Yukon
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offered me right there, not not
face to face, but they were stay
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till they were talking to my coaching
the time. I was Leo propelled and
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was like, you know, they
had interests and you pretty much will offer
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you. Leo was talking to me
about some other stuff and then, you
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know, kept playing. They kept
coming to the Games and they just like
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the way I played and they kept
with it and I'm sure that's when I
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probably started getting what was in the
summertime I was probably getting probably the phone
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call or whatever it was, and
other schools started calling those having conversations with
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them. Arizona, UCLA, like
I said, Kansas, Pittsburgh. So
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all these schools was was coming at
me during this Paceham tournament back in the
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summer of once a two thousand and
for God after and then we'll go to
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them for and then what was your
what was the ultimate decision to pick you
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came. Then that summer I went
on. Since I reclassified, I had
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a five new official visits, so
I went to Pittsburgh and went to Yukon.
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I cut it down from Pittsburgh UK
on it and kids has and I
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took the visit to you corn.
Obviously was kind of close. I took
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the visit to Pittsburgh and after the
Pittsburgh trip I was like I was kind
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of tired to I was like,
you know, I don't even think I
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need to go to Kansas because I
was already on the road that whole summer
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and as I don't think I need
to go in Kansas, I already have
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the feeling that like I know.
I had to feel I know where I
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want to go, and that was
you can. And there was still some
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school sending me letters actually, but
it was still like it wasn't it wasn't
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enough. A letter that the time
wasn't enough. A phone call would have
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been better. Yeah, but you
know, it was that. That was
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pretty much it right there and then. That's how I knew that summer going
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into PRESCO, I wanted to go
to Uka Gosh for Roucher. And then,
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overall, what's your was your experience? Like a you can. It
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was unbelievable. It was. It
was everything that I've imagine. I remember
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taking visits to like my senior year
to like right state and like Nebraska schools
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like that, and I was just
like, you know, I was amazed
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by them, like just by just
their cock, their life, they're coaching
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everything and like they they impressed me
as a good visits, but I knew,
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like if I went to such and
such school, I know it would
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be even better of experience and it
will be a lot closer to home.
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And and you call was just pretty
much everything was like almost all those schools,
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and one so amazing made it easier. Obviously it was, you can,
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but you know what I mean.
And then, yeah, I'm sure
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your family got to go to your
games and stuff. Right, right,
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right. And what did it mean
to you to become a named captain of
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the team's senior it was cool.
I mean, it wasn't it would like,
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you know, going into you kind
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about playing. Yeah, but since
I was really one of the youngest players,
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and then all of a sudden I
became one of the oldest players within
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a year. I really took notes. I really learned how to become a
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leader, how to become, you
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to get stuff done at a high
level playing basketball and being a student.
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And from then on I pretty much
had to, you know, lead by
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example. Not Every day, you
know, and I every day was you
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know, the way you wanted to
go, but you still find ways to
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get stuff done and to pass it
along. And so pretty much from sophomore
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years to senior year, I had
to, you know, reinvent certain things
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and and and still remember things that
to pass that taught me. So,
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like you know, it was great. It was. It was a great
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experience on and off the court.
Being a captain was a great experience,
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and especially on the court like that
was where, you know, natural abilities,
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natural stuff came to effect. You
know, just, you know,
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being leading by example in the weight
room, if we had to do sprints,
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you know, just being out there
and with the guys and, you
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know, running with them, trying
to finish first or whatever, pushing guys,
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you know, whatever it is,
whatever the case was, you know,
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like you know, I found a
way to get it done and to
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help others. I think that's what, you know, I've learned. That's
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what I learned from the past,
guys before me, and I was glad
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so, you know, pass it
on. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
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I was looking at the rosters and
it was like you're your freshman,
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you're like I think it was like
mostly like ot of juniors and seniors and
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like you know that left for the
NBA and stuff. And then I think,
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I think you're, I want to
say you're sophomore and junior. You
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guys had no seniors, se right, Senor. There was some bolder guys.
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There was the walk on. Yeah, I can't say I did it
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all by myself, but they were
still walk on. You know, there
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was a craig astree still there,
those Marcus Johnson, you know, there
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were still guys that that that help
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you know, other guys that came
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into like the NBA draft two thousand
and nine, what were your expectations and,
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like, what kind of training did
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I want to my actually taste was
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all that expectations was that. Yukon
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athlete. You know you play basketball, you know you do well in school
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and hopefully go play professional basketball at
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overseas like I'm doing now, which
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the time probably thinking that, you
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probably doesn't matter where. I probably
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always about what you feel or what
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guess the way the ball bounce,
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it, my senior year, after
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draft, my draft workouts, all
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game was different. You know,
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if the three seconds is all these
things you got to learn. You
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where like where I had to find
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to develop, you know, certain
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game besides just how to bully people
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individual basketball skill work. Then I
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lot of workouts. I didn't go
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but didn't go to that. I
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invited to the combine, that the
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I had pretty good workouts, you
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like I said, I gus.
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way bounce that day. Everything happens
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way to make it. And Yeah, so did that. Being on drafted.
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That did that fuel your fire?
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Yeah, like you know, it
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pretty much NBA basketball, like every
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being on the team, and just
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and the Lakers and all. You
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you know, it's watching basketball.
It's just obviously the thing to do if
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you're if you play basketball like Europe
style of play was not on TV as
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much, you know, so it
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never was, not like you know, in my like picture, you know.
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do. Obviously I didn't right at
the college, and even that help me
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learn, to help me make it
to the NBA. And you make the
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Golden State Warriors all that stuff was
all like, you know, learned,
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like learning it and learning the game
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to me at benefited from it.
That definitely learned from every second. I
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grew, I became better, I
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said, helped me make it to
the highest level of basketball. Yeah,
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definitely your first your first season,
you went over to Spain. So what
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was that like? Just going overseas? Well, that was different. That's
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when I like, that's the first
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right by myself, not as a
baby. Right, this is like this
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is totally different. I'm going to
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my mom now, more than an
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know, I knew some teams had
like advised me, like, like I
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can remember like the Spurs and the
Celtics. Spurs would say, Hey,
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you know, get a passport.
Stings like hey, we would drive you,
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but we're going to keep you overseas. So there were certain things that,
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like there was there was hints.
There was definitely people looking out and
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pretty much letting me know, like
Hey, get ready, but it's never
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over, you know, but get
ready to go play basketball somewhere else.
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And that's what happened. So reality
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there and I played pretty well.
Like you know, it wasn't it wasn't
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like college. You know, I'm
when I first got out there I felt
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like like it was simple, like
it could have been close to call allege,
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but it was it was totally different. The Lane was a trap was
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ord lane, I think at the
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trappers or lane, or it was
a wider lane. So the my post
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up game was a little different.
I had to adjust to that. Had
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to adjust to the travel, slowing
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to, you know, not travel. All that stuff was was a learned
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experience and at the same time as
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it was my first time doing all
that. We had a pretty good year
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with the playoffs, but I knew
during the time, like I wanted to
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be back home. I was still
staying up watch the NBA Games and and
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all that, and I knew like
the next season I was like, you
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know what, I'm going to stay
over there. You know, if I
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had to go to the dle.
I'm going to do that. You know,
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that's what pretty much happened. I
made it, I got cut and
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went to the D League and I
made it again and yeah, yeah,
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there don't here. So going into
that year, what was it? What
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was your first NBA game? Like, I know you signed with the warriors.
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First NBA game we played? We
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say it was on Halloween, or
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was on Halloween or orange sneakers.
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we're in the yeah, they were. You had the yeah, the Old
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Jersey's on the navy ones, right, I thought we they still they said,
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have the blue. kind of that
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year, but it was still like
that. I rollable the royal blue on
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the yellow and stuff like that,
the bridge and all that. So it
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was. It was a Halloween game. was on the row, you know,
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is it was? No, no, no, actually, my first
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game was against Houston. Actually that
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first road game. They introduced me, they did all that, like you
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know, I came down from the
bleachers. I had no idea I was
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going to play coach coach called my
numberical smart called me and I played that
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game and I was real nervous.
I've never I was nervous. But you
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know, I don't think I played
bad. I don't think I didn't.
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I don't think I did anything special
that night, but most likely I probably,
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you know, made a presence.
I probably did something. You know.
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Obviously the too stay around for a
little bit and eventually I stayed for
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a little bit, if that out
during that time due to injury. I
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think that's the reason why I got
cut the first time from from my golden
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state. If that ain't happened,
I don't think I think I was still
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would have been there probably the whole
entire year. But you know, things
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happened. But yeah, I remember
play Houston eventually. Then Houston was the
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next team I played for. So
yeah, pretty ironic. And then,
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yeah, then the following year there
was a lockouts you when you went to
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Italy and then you came back and
then you're on the rockets. So that
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wasn't another crazy yer because you were
backing for with only that one. Definitely
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was. That definitely was. But
I definitely had, you know, good
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guys around that a good fete in
Brian Scalabrini out there in Italy, playing
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with us, playing with me.
Eat. One more still, the League
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Alex Gentier, that that made a
run. That's, you know, he's
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pretty popular in Europe, in Monty
units. That ended up playing in Houston
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too. So I was still,
you know, young at the time and
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Brian was there and he would,
you know, keep me, you know,
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levelheaded because well, obviously there was
no NB at the time, but
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I knew the game was totally different
and he knew the game was totally different.
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So the coach, the coach,
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He was he was real tough Georgia
Bitch, which you know. Now
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I look back at it, I
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a great coach. Now look back
his success from then until now, it's
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been, you know, very good, like top in Europe. I'm,
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you know, I'm very lucky.
I got caught coach, I got I
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got to be coached by him and
he definitely, you know, he pushed
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us. He pushed us. We
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to, you know, be pushed. We was young, we was good,
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we had talent. He definitely,
you know, we wasn't there too
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long, but there was a point
where coach to where the the the at
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the at the lockout ended. We
started putting a lot of things together and
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it was kind of too late and
I was like the last one to be
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like, you know, to go
back. Each one went back, for
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I went back and then I went
back back to the league, to them
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being while while Gab got the call
here, he ended up playing for Dallas.
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Eventually, while they stayed and you
know, had to you know,
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play basketball without this, without,
you know, guys that's playing at the
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highest level in Gentila, eventually went
to Milan and so a team was definitely
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because they you know, different.
I was a whole different team, but
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you could tell that we had tally
like all those guys, like five guys,
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fives these guys from that team playing
NBA basketball. So that was definitely
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a great experience. Then I went
to Houston and that was a thousand experience
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of his own. The whole style, the whole everything of it was,
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you know, learned experience of it. It was a learned it was a
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great learning experience. You know,
this is the nature of the game.
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So, you know, I got
cut again and then you know, I
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wasn't. I didn't think I should
have got cut, but you know,
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it is what it is, and
I went back to went back overseas to
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Europe and went to Kimki and play
basketball again. Went to the finals,
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went to the Russian the Russian League
finals. We lost in CHESCA. That
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was it, and there's a few
years after that. I went back and
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being I stayed for a little bit
longer and I don't think I got cut
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or anything. Bob, that's right, right with the bad guys. What
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was that? I was at like
playing with Kemba again. That was cool.
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great, you know, like playing
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with him, knowing his work ethic, doing my work ethic and and helping
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him, obviously, because I've obviously
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you know, grow and become,
you know, a player that he
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needs to be, and that who
he is now, definitely, you know.
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You know, I enjoyed all that. I enjoyed, you know,
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being around all the younger guys at
the time and, you know, doing
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things that we weren't supposed to be
doing, like we be we went into
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Chicago and in Newi, in New
Year's and we want a road game after
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losing my seventeen straight my first year
in the babcats like that was great.
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That was fun right there. We
had a lot of fun time. We,
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you know, obviously wasn't going to
make the playoffs, but we knew
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that, like you know, any
given days we came together, we could
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really, you know, make some
noise and beat a team and beat decent
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team, be very good teams,
I should say. At the time the
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Bulls was probably number one seed in
the in the east, so coast to
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it, and we beat them at
their crib and that was real memorable my
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first year and with the BAB cats
country. I here and then you went
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on, you got you actually got
traded the following her from the back outs.
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What was that like? Getting treated? That was different, because now
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where, that where the team that's
like we're like six or seven the a
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see now and I'm part of a
team that like I know my role now,
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I know when certain players go down
or whatever. You get hurt,
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I know I'm gonna be ready and
the coaches not playing me this amount of
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minutes and I already know what to
expect. So now I feel like,
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you know, I feel better about
myself. I feel more confident. I
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know I'm going to sell in the
role and we're going to win a lot
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of the Times. We won a
lot of games. You know, I
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got traded. They kept playing well, they made the playoffs. So I
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felt like I still made the playoffs, but at the same time, like
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I know that, like I got
a chance to expand my game, I
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got a chance to show my game
where I wasn't playing like, you know,
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just fifteen minutes now I'm playing like
you know, twenty, twenty five
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and twenty five. Obviously I earned
the minutes to finish out the year,
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to play thirty games with the bucks
and as she played pretty much all dirty
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games and play well and, you
know, do things that I'm sure nobody
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ever expected to me to do.
Was Great, like, you know,
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even though I got traded from from
Charlotte and everything, they they went on
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had they went on, went to
the playoffs. I went on and play
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great basketball, probably probably the best
Bass I've ever played in my life.
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And so, you know, at
that time, like both teams were for
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me, as you say, both
parties won. Like I didn't end up
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signing with the bucks, but you
know, I helped you on his grow.
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I feel like you know now he's
obviously MVP. So I play on
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playing with Yana's I helped Chris grow
branding night. You know, those guys
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are like you know those thirty games, like we built something and I helped
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build something and now you're watching it. Now you watching is this Oba play
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basketball with them. There's still a
lot of those guys on the team and
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you know, you see how great
they are now and I felt like I
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was a part of that also.
Yeah, yeah, and then then you're
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following your he played for a timberwolves
and I know Kevin Garnett was on there.
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So what was that like? Well, kg came on after I left.
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I got came probing. But but
me watching kg like throughout like my
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high school career, basic using my
college career and in a little bit,
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obviously, in my professional career.
But he always motivating, even though like
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I've never I've really I played against
them and never I met him maybe once.
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But just his intensity, is his
desire of playing like defense with him,
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him wanting to be like at the
anchor. He he didn't think about
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scoring like that. He knew his
role, he knew what it took to
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be great and helped to stuff his
win a championship, and I always admired
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that. I always, you know, enjoyed watching him do that, be
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a defensive anchor for the clubtics at
the time. And you know, I
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felt like I carried that like with
me without him even knowing it. I
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felt like I was just maybe,
you know, you call me a waller.
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Kg's not as tall as it as
Quig as him, but his intensity
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defensively, like his taught his his
communication on the court, his leadership.
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I took a lot of notes,
like I took a lot of notes,
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and also had Ray island that would
come in and again, know at Yukon
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and, you know, tell us
like how vocal kgd is and such and
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such, and he would he would
offer you pass a touchine and also pass
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it to me, obviously, and
you know, like I took notes,
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I paid attention to that when he
was talking, when you would talk to
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us across the stuff like that.
And so, yeah, I did you
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play with kg I played against them. They did he talk trasty? Not,
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I think, because I don't need
touch drasted. I don't know why.
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Doesn't you know? So I guess
it is what it is, you
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know, but I wasn't. It
wasn't like that with me kg. And
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then, I know, the last
three years you've been killing it over in
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Israel. Even all star three years
in a roun. So what's that,
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man? What's it been like in
Israel? Well, the first two years
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has been I said, the first
year was, you know, was great.
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You know, we did a lot
of things, a lot of great
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things, got a lot of wins, got a lot of European wins,
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made all star. You know,
we was winning, you know, and
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the thing the next year was more
like more didn't win as much, but
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personally, like I played great basketball
again, a score that, you know,
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scored out a pretty great rate,
rebound a pretty good rate. You
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know, I defend it. Did
all that pretty good way. We it
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just didn't translate to to winning.
And then the last year, like,
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you know, and he's I know
you mentioned, you know, all star
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three years and in a row.
It's the last year. It was cool.
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It's cool always to be all stuff. is also better to win.
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I thought probably would have felt better
to win and be an all star,
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you know, like it just it
just feels been like my second year,
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I know there was an effort,
like I got ended up getting player the
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months. So that's why I like
my second my second year wasn't like it's
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like, you know, I still
hold I still they got deserved to be
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an Allstar. Not Saying last year
I didn't deserve to be one, but
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like we didn't win like we should
have. Not as it's not the same
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like my first. Second Year it's
been cool and I'm playing basketball, you
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know, you know I'm playing like
that's all I really wanted to do is
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play basketball at professional, high level. And he yeah, yeah, I
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got a few more than all you
go. What advice would you give young
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basketball player trying to get a d
one scholarship or trying to go bro Class,
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trying to go pray high schools,
try to go pro now, I
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mean like you know, you're getting
a trying to get to do one scholarship,
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or like a player, like going
from college to pro. I'll tell
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them, I would tell them my
college coach us to tell me to get
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my work done early, meaning like
if you put in the work, if
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you if you do what you need
to do, everything else is out your
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hands. You know, you can't
really worry about what you can't control.
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So if you know you put in
the work, if you know you ran
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an extra mile, you've already did
it. You didn't early, you got
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up early and you you got your
extra shots. There's nothing to worry about.
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There's nothing to panic about, because
a lot of things that certain players
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will majority, a lot of players
don't, can't control. And you know
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how a young age, nobody was
really there. So so like, you
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know, let me know, like
a politics of the Games. Now I
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know like a little bit more of
it, but the guys that's coming into
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the game, I would I would
tell him not to worry, not to
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think too deeply about you know,
you might go to get this scholarship or
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or am I going to get drafted, or am I going to get this
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or my going to sign this contract
overseas? All that first out of your
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hands. You know, if you
know you put in the work and you
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put you put the time in,
you have nothing to worry about, because
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somebody's always watching, you know,
especially now it's media. Right, all
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right, last ones. I got
some fun ones. Are gonna go from
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average savage ready, average the savage. Yeah, but your your favorite song
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right now. My Favorite Song Right
now today my phone, my phones will
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look I got a few songs the
West King Combs. Listen to that.
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You know will really back mellow jam
right now. What do you listen to
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me like before the game? Sometimes
I'll listen to some things very day,
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some days in very I always crazy
story, King Vaughan. I gotta check
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these out now. What about?
Why are you were number four for?
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Is that? Few reasons? I'm
gonna give you a couple. I'm growing
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up. My high school numbers really
thirty one and you could almost say as
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retires really good like, you know, little special times. You know,
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I did what I did? A
lot of special things with that numbers.
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You know, it's kind of hard
to repeat it, but so I kind
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of have to ward sense. But
I knew for with the something I would
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like, and I think I'm still
finding out the meanings of why I like
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for still to this day, and
at the one of the reasons why.
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I remember watching Chris Porter and Kenyan
Martin back in the day and they both
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were number for in college basketball and
you know, I like I like the
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way the number look, you know, the the whole, you know,
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is everything about it just single kison
number effect. It was sleek, it
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was nice and to me and fit
me, and so those those two reasons
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right there. I remember the challenge
when I got to UK on when coach
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Moore told me what I told him
I wanted to wear, for he told
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me, you know, who are
his number. I was like yeah,
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thank God he's and you know,
that's big shoes to fill to me.
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That was a challenge right there.
He challenged me, rely challenge me there,
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you know, to obviously keep the
number going, keep it, you
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know, doing what it's supposed to
be doing, like like bg did right
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before I got there, right before
right before me. So that was another
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challenge. And then through life there's
just all these other meanings, more meanings
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that is kept coming to me to
why, you know, I chose a
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number. I think to this day
I'm still find out more meanings, more
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reasons why. You know, I
like for it's crazy. It's last one.
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Would you like to do when you're
not playing basketball? What do you
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do in the free time? I
brain storm a lot, I think.
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Well, I know I bring storm
a lot. I like to come up
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with new ideas. I chill,
I shop online a little bit, video
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video games. Yeah, play Video
Games, play mad int K spider man.
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Yeah, I do, I do, I do. I do a
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little bit of everything. You know, sometimes I put a top golfs when
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you're the twins. Work on my
golf game. You know, I don't
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think I'm there yet. I think
I'm still young. I don't think I
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need to make golf here. But
yeah, just you know this, not
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to not to think, not to
things out of the ordinary. You know,
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nothing like you know I lay in
this or anything like that. Just
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you know I probably bring storm at
yeah. Well, I appreciate you coming
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on and I could do with the
people know where they can follow you on
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social media. You can follow me
at the read the underscore reason with the
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four games. He underscore ore e
the number for as zero and you can
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follow me. All right. Again, appreciate you coming up, I don't
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doubt and pre stays you for
