Interview with the Vampire (1994)

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You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast
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network Almost Almost Almost Almost Major A major, major, major.
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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Almost Major,
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where we talked about the many major students in the
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films they release. We are on our Giffen Pictures mini series.
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My name is Kevin Tutor. I'm here with Brighton Doyle. Hello,
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and we are here to talk about Interview with the
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Vampire colin The Vampire Chronicles in nineteen ninety four. Everybody
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remembers the subpot off of this feature film release November eleventh,
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nineteen ninety four, and twenty six hundred and fourth theaters
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and debuted at number one top five films that weekend.
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Interview with the Vampires, the Santa Claus Stargate, Pulp Fiction,
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and Frankenstein, Which is that is the Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
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de Niro one.
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I believe Yes, directed by Kenneth Brannaw. I've seen Interview
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at the Vampire, Stargate and Pulp Fiction. I think of
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the three, pulp Fiction is like, that's handily my favorites
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of the bunch.
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How did you watch? Why did you watch?
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Stargate, Like I think it was on one of my
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streaming services, either a Hoopla or to b and a
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million years ago. The podcast I like blank Check did
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an episode on it as like a one off, and
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I was like, all right, I guess I have an
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excuse to watch it. I think also a friend of
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the show' Scutafoya might have done a dad Rock video
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essay on it. So it was the thing I like, cool,
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I'll have all now I have seen the movie and
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I can watch this video, I say, which opened up
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feeling like I'm spoiling spoiling myself on the movie. That's
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sometimes something I just like to do with my spare time.
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Stralia is definitely a movie where it's just like you
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had to be there, and not only do you have
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to be there, you have to be and you like,
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there's nerd shit and then there's like not fun nerd shit,
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and that's like Stargate and that's like spin offs of
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that's like Children of Dune miniseries in the early two
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thousands type shit, like just I'm allergic to that stuff,
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but almost made more than the Santa Claus. Yeah, there's
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there's no reason for you to watch Santa Claus or
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the sequels something.
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Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing. Stargate like got
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like all those like spinoff TV shows, and then like
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the Santa Claus. It's like multiple sequels, so it's like
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somebody was interested in those, you know.
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It's one was like two thousand and four.
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Yeah, and then there's the third one, which came out
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when I was a little twenty eleven. I remember one
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being a two thousand and seven where it's like Martin
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Short plays Jack Frost.
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Yes, I don't know if that's two or three is.
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I think that's three. I remember I vaguely remember that
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one coming out, even when I was a kid. I
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was just like, I think I'm good. No judgment to
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anybody who likes that movie. I'm sure it's fine.
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For people who were the grown adults listening to this,
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grown men, Let's be honest, they like they like the
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Santa Claus. That are goo Okay. Santa Claus two is
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two thousand and two, Okay, eight years later, Santa Claus
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three the escape clause is two thousand and six. Uh yeah,
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I do remember Santa Claus two at the time.
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Wow.
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Yeah, And I'm sure you look up, it's like made
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three hundred fifty million dollars, no legacy whatsoever. The thing
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about do you like Tim Allen? You know, besides him
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being Tim Allen?
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I mean I like the Toy Story movies that he
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was in, but like I never watched like his sitcoms.
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Like even I think Home Improvement might have been in
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syndication when I was growing up, but I never watched it.
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And then I didn't watch Last Man's Standing despite that
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show featuring, of course an actress we both like, Kitlyn Deaver. Sorry,
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haven't watch. Well, I've seen like a couple of clips.
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I don't think I'm gonna watch.
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The whole thing. Hey, Bridon, my father loves it. That's
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all you need to know.
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Hey, there you go. Well he also has the show
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with another actress to like Kat Denning's.
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Hey guess what, my father loves it.
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Yeah, I don't know. You know what he's decent in.
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He's decently used in the David mammontt movie Red Belt, where.
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He is that's so weird.
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Where he and Jake Johnson have a fight scene, very strange.
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Yeah, I don't know if I'm even like growing up
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had really an opinion on him. I didn't see Galaxy
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Quest until like way later. I mean, of course, Toy
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Story Ru Big Trouble I really liked at the time.
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Just everybody there's we got Jason Lee, we got Knoxville
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that there's a lot of people. Jannine Garoffalo is in it.
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You know what, maybe that movie is a half star
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from Dan Mecca. Fuck holy fuck, yeah, I remember liking
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that at the time. Joe Somebody I remember renting.
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Which you recently texted me about just the It was
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the from the Account Marquee video. It was a DVD
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promo for Joe Somebody wears this. Tim Allen packs a
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twenty three million dollar comedy punch. And then you were
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honing in on the Wireless magazine quote irresistible non stop laughs.
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Which Wireless Magazine? No, I'm thinking of somebody else. I
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meant that.
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I don't even know what that is. So, yeah, you
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know what Joe Somebody is. He just gets his ass
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kicked by fucking punching from Seinfeld, and then he trains
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to go and beat him up because he embarrassed him
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in front of his kid. Oh yeah, and who trains them,
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that's right, Jim Blushi.
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But like if that movie came out now, or if
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they made it now, would be like it's a treatise
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on toxic masculinity and fatherhood.
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It'd be called woke somebody, Okay. I interviewed with The Vampire,
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nominated for two Oscars Best Art Direction and Best Original Score.
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Budget was sixty million dollars opening we can make thirty
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six point three million, domestic gross of one hundred and
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five point two million, and an overall gross of two hundred
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and twenty three point six million dollars. That has to
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be the highest grossing movie we've ever recovered, right, Yeah.
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Like, I mean how much money DIDs make or like
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Olympus is following I'm trying to let.
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Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I was also thinking
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of how many movies that debuted at number one we've covered.
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Oh, that's a witch one.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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That's a very good question.
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Maybe like one or two total from Artisan in Lionsgate.
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Definitely one or two. Definitely from Film District. Anyways. Number
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one song of the US this week is all Make
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Lefty by Boys to Men, which I'm pretty sure was
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number one for like three hundred and seventy eight weeks
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and then once on again. This week is also all
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make Love to You. The countries were aligned a blood
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description from Google. Born as a eighteenth century lord, it's
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a Louis right, not Lewis right, or is Louis Okay
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is now a bisentennial vampire, which makes him sound very patriotic.
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Telling his story to an eer biographer. Suicidal after the
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death of his family, he meets a stat a vampire perades,
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persuades him to choose the immortality over death, and becomes
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his companion. He really doesn't give him an option. He
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kind of just bites my man, and it's just like, hey,
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cut that out. He's like once you want to live
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forever and be like, well, you just keep biting me,
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so I guess. So. Eventually, gentle Louis resolves to leave
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his violent maker, but the stats got a guilt guilds
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him into staying by turning a young girl, whose, addition
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to the quote unquote family breeds even more conflict. That's
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not a story. What did Google? Okay? Sure, whatever written.
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Act, we really should have gotten Christian Slatter's biographer to
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a written out plot description.
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I love that. Like in the very first scene he's
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just like, you know, I'm like one hundred and twenty
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years old, and he's like, that's that's that's wild.
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Yeah.
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Written and directed by Neil Jordan. Have We Said enough?
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Starring Tom Cruise's Listette talked about him plenty on Our
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Risky Business episode Already. Brad Pitt as Louis prots to
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this cutting class in nineteen eighty nine. Haven't seen that,
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Thelman Louis in nineteen ninety one, Somewhat Cool World in
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nineteen ninety two. I rented that movie so much in
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elementary school and I have not seen it since. And
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then growing up and hearing people be like, oh, yeah,
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that movie that sucks, and I'm like, what are you
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talking about. I used to watch it all the time,
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so I'd be very interested to rewatch it, because yeah,
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I have not seen it since. Like single Digits Age California. Wait,
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holy fuck, that's a k in nineteen ninety three. That's
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not a good movie. After this seven in nineteen ninety five,
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the best shit ever? Maybe sorry, it just is Detective
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Mills Am I l LS Fuck You Sleepers in nineteen
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ninety six, being mentioned once again. The Devil's Own in
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nineteen ninety seven, you're seeing the Devil's Own.
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Of course, I was rewatching closer to it this past week.
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I think I was rewatching closer last week because my
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mom was watching Everwood with Treat Williams on Netflix, and
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Williams is one of Pitt's adversaries in that when I
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was watching The Clipper back picture just walks into an
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office and shoots When I Treat Williams, guys in the leg,
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He's like, you're stupeman, mister Brooke, and like he just
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like keeps like clear, like making some sort of weird
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throat noise every time he stops speaking, and it's like,
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not the best accent work I've ever seen.
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But okay, how very Billy Bob Thornton of him, very
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sling blade of him. There was a there was a
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sad conversation with Ashley Padillia, Keenan Thompson and JJ from
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SNL and they were saying that James was They did
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an entire short it was him being Billy Bob Thord
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and doing a commercial for Team Mobile, and the entire
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joke was just be like, I don't know how they
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do it. They just there's a bunch of signals that
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come in from maybe Aliens or something like that, and
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it just keeps. I don't know how they do it,
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but it's just so wild that they just like filmed
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that entire thing and wrote the entire thing. It was like, yeah,
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and you'll never see it. I'm just like that would
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that would kill me?
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But yeah, like yeah, like that's like when people like
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said the sketches I failed, like Bill, like the one
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that you and I love Stugl was to Bill Hayter
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doing the ed birds, grill guys or the girl like
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savaksh wants to be a five fight.
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Tip. I just love the story of I think he
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said it on Conan's podcast that it was him and
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somebody else doing that for like an hour at a
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party and then at a certain point in een Groofflow said,
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shut the fuck up. Oh god, let's see. Oh yeah,
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seven years into Bed in nineteen ninety seven, of course,
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me Joe Black in nineteen ninety eight, of course, fight
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Club and Nice nine. I'm sorry, it's still the best shit.
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The Mexican Spy Game and Ocean's eleven in two thousand
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and one, that's all.
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That's a pretty good run. I mean, the Mexican I
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think It's part of the movie is that movie is
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the weakest part. I like the Roberts gandalpinis up it,
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But I really like Spy Game in Ocean's eleven a lot.
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I have not seen Spy Game more than Mexican. Have
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I seen Oceans eleven? You're goddamn right. I have not
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seen the four K of it yet, and I need to.
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Oh God, I really need to Babel in two thousand
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and six. I remember that movie just the other day
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and I was like, Wow, that movie sucks really bad.
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Oh Jesus Christ in your retail? What what a man?
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Well he's he's team, but he's like, finally, I've worked
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with both The Interview with the Vampire Guys Tom Pitt
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and now Cruise.
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Kristen Dunt's Run A Curious Case of Bitch of About
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in two thousand and eight, Sure, and Babylon in twenty
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twenty two, the best best shit ever. Oh and real
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film Warmish in twenty seventeen.
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That's right, a movie, so a movie so real that
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Netflix put out another movie with that same title earlier
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this year.
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Wow, it wasn't Warmer seeing like their second original movie
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something like that? Like, right, be some nonation.
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It's like in that first couple of years that they
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started making original movies. Yeah, I've heard it's not the best.
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Also starring Antonio Bendez, Christian Slater, Stephen Rea, of course,
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Kristen Dunce, and Tandy Waydeon Trivia Christin Slater was given
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the role of Daniel Mallory upon the death of River Phoenix,
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the original choice for the role. Slater donated his two
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hundred and fifty thousand dollars salary to the two Phoenix's
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favorite charities. He is in the movie for three minutes, like,
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and he got a quarter of the mill. That's insane.
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What did Slater do before this movie? I mean, obviously Heather's.
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the ones that I've seen that he's in. I mean,
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Cleaving the Cube where it's like about skaters, like Coffs,
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where he's like a prankster cop or something like that.
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None of those movies are like, let's give him a
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quarter of a million dollars, Like let's be real, because
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I'm pretty sure Heather's like made like no money. And
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then it became a thing like on video, I think so.
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I mean again, that's a movie I know that has
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like a pretty solid reputation now, but like I don't
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know if it was like a huge hit. It's also
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like a huge cast.
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Upon learning that Tom Cras have been cast as a
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stent and Rice was livid and stated Cruz could not
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carry the parts, calling the casting quote so bizarre, it's
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almost impossible to imagine how it's gonna work. And the
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worst crime in the name of casting since the Bonfire
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of the Vanities. She has a point, not about Cruise,
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but a Bonfire of the Vanities. Have you seen Bonfire
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the Vanities?
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No, I've heard. It's terrible. I feel like even Topama
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fans hate that one.
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Yeah. Well, Rice left the production and did not view
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the film until a producer center a VHS copy. Rice
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was so impressed by Cruise's performance that she wrote him
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a letter of apologies and recorded a two minute video
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endorsing the film, included as a pre feature on the
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mid nineties VHS releases. So like, literally you popping the
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tape and it was like, I'm so sorry, he's actually
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very good, and also took out a two page add
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in Vanity Fair in New York Times calling the movie
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a masterpiece. That's levels of walking back, a statement that
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I think has rarely been seen since.
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I mean, what's the thing that people say now is
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like Tom Cruise, I was not familiar with your game.
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And then wonder what when did an Rice pass away?
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Hopefully she didn't have to see The Mummy.
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Twenty twenty one, so if you might have seen the Mummy,
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she might have lived to have seen it. Not think
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Crownin is the Mummy, but Alex Kurtzman is the Mummy.
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Yes, and Rice met with Tom Hanks to take the
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part of the step Okay, you can't say the worst
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crime in the name of casting since the Bonfire of
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the Vanitys and think Tom Hanks will play the stets
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all right?
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Man?
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She sees Hanks in bonfirean that thinks this is bad.
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But I can fix sciting.
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This is bad. I can do worse. After seeing his
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performance in Philadelphia and you thought him and Philadelphia like,
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I know what his follow up should be. He turned
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down the part in order to star in Forrest Gump.
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Never mind, he should have been in this movie. Sir
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Daniel day Lewis was originally given the part of a
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set but dropped out weeks before filming. Tom Cruise eventually
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got the role after Johnny Depp turned it down. I
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could see Depp being day Lewis, I.
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Think in Phantom thread mode. I think that could be fun.
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Like I mean, it would have been like a precursor
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to Old though.
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Yeah, at the time, even even at the time, he's
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always like Red Old and like like Tom Cruise at
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the time is what like early thirties, but you know,
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still gives somewhat youthful energy. The same thing with Brad
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Pitty's probably like the same age.
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Yeah, but day Lewis, for context, around the time he'd
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been he'd been in the Name of the Father, where
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I think that's a movie where he's playing that. He
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starts out the movie is playing a young guy and
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then like by the end of the movie he's like
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hard into an adult and or anything, and he does like, yeah,
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he's like older than the real guy they he's playing,
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but like he does like through physicality, like does capture
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like through it, like the beautiful arrogance of it. I
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don't know, he could maybe I'm saying it's interesting to
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imagine everything. Maybe it wouldn't have worked, but like, if
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the stead.
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Had a dad, he could play, Wow, it's six.
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In the morning, go to sleep.
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All the actors playing vampires were required to hang upside
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down for up to thirty minutes at a time during makeup.
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This would force all the blood in their body to
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rush to their heads, causing their blood vessels and their
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faces to bulge. The makeup artists would then trace over
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the swollen veins, creating the eerie, translucent skin look. Unfortunately
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for the actors, they would have to repeat the process
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several times over as the blood would quickly drain from
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the heads. This and part accounts for the lengthy makeup process.
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There's got to be a better way.
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Yeah, that sounds really annoying. I would like, Yeah, I
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would not put up with that as an actor.
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I'd be like, can I just do it once and
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then you like take a picture and be like, hey,
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this is where all my Like, No, we have to
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do it every time. I'm very sorry. Also, that sounds
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like a fucking story you would make up if you
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were caught in a lie, be like I was late
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coming home. I wasn't cheating on you I had. I
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had to go upside down, They had to trace my veins,
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took several hours. Can you please not throw my clothes
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out of the window? And an ew interview in September
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twenty eleven, brad Pitt revealed that he had a miserable
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experience while making this film. He recalled the discomfort of
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the makeup, previously mentioned colored contacts, and particularly filmed in
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an enclosed, dark, indoor area. He said at one point
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he called his friend and producer David Geffen and begged
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him for a way out. Learning that it would cost
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forty million dollars, he toughed it out for the remaining months.
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I've worked some pretty bad jobs that were pretty easy
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to get out of, but definitely nothing where it's just like, hey, man,
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can you act? And like I got to get out
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of here? And be like do you want to pay
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forty million dollars and be like, oh, I guess I'll stay.
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Like and also from what you're saying, like hang it
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upside it. Yeah, that sucks, man, but it's not We're like,
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I get me out here, I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.
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Like and then the colored contact that's not that's not
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an issue, man, Like, I don't know what.
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To tell you.
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Man, He's like, why can't I just be shirtless and
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wear a cowboy hat like I was in Thilman Louise
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and be like this is the real picture's pit. According
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to Kirsten Unst, Tom Cruise always sends her a coconut
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cake with white chocolate chips every Christmas. Dunce refers to
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it as the cruise cake, which she has always excited
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to receive and meeting. The cake never lasts more than
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one day. I don't know why that's in trivia, but
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sure imagine coming home in your significant other eight the
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cruise cake without splitting it with you. Oh my god.
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Tom Cruise was placed on an elevated platform during some
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of his scenes to reduce the high difference between his
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character and other vampires. I don't need to hear this
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as a person who on a good day is five
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to five. He also wanted a private set, so tunnels
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were built to escort the actors to and from set.
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This was done so that the vampire's makeup effects would
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remain a secret. It's not that big of a deal
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where it's just like we got we gotta put these
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effects under, like, yeah, he looks like a vampire. I
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don't know. During film, in tensions developed between Tom Cruise
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and Brad Pitt over the latter's alleged poor personal hygiene.
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According to Cruz, his co star didn't use in deodoran
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and the resulting body owder became noticeable. He was like, damn.
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He was like, if I can't get off the set,
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I'm must stink the place of Although the screen credits
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read screenplayed by and Rice based on her novel, the
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script was originally heavily rewritten, actually heavily rewritten by director
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Neil Jordan. Rider Gild's rules meant that Rice got credit.
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Although in twenty twenty, director Neil Jordan was asked if
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he was told to pull back on the homo eroticism
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of the novel of the film, and Jordan replied, I
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mean the movie is true to the book. I think.
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He goes on to say, and Rice wrote the script.
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I didn't change anything. If anything, I made it more
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penetrating and troubling in that regard great choice of words.
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Cruise and Pitt played it more like master slave or dominance,
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more before their relationship than sexuality. So who knows if
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he actually touched it? Who knows he probably did on
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set and doesn't consider that actually re writing it, Tom
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Cruise prepped for his role by watching videos of Lines
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attacking Zebra in a while. Sure, man, God, actress is
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so silly. Due to Anne Rice's fear that her novel
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was not being adapted because Lisette and Louis could be
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perceived as homosexual as she wrote, she wrote Louis as
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a woman for the movie. At one point she con
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considered Share for the role. However, that character eventually went
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back to being a mail matter if it was Brad
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Pitt Share. I mean, but do you believe in love
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after loss? Actually, in total, there are thirteen novels in
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the Vampire Chronicles, and that's not including the spin offs.
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And lastly, this is the first film production to be
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given permission to close down two lanes of traffic on
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the Golden Gate Bridge. This is done for the last
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scene of the film where Last attacked and bites Daniel
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Mallory while he is driving home to the famous bridge.
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Imagine her trying to explain that to the cops. So
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we need to show down for what? So Tom Cruise
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is gonna bite the ship out of the motherfucker from
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cuffs And that's actually the indeed scene. Is there going
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to be a cover over this indeed scene? A cover
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song by Anybody's Guns? Because I love guns and Roses.
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You'll you'll love this, I bet.
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My goodness. Yeah, it's so goofy, how like one that
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like Cruise, but it says like I assume no introductions
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are needed, and then he plays sympathy for the devil
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with the first list please allow me to introduce myself,
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And I'm like, Okay.
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It could have been worse. They could have played that
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at the opening credits.
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That's true. Uh. What I also think would have made
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that scene more tolerable is if it had been like
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the Jerry Maguire scene where he's slipping through all the
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radio stations and lands on free phone and it starts
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singing along. I think that that the Guns of Roses
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cover is terrible, but I would have liked it if
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Cruise had said along into it over the including over
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the end credits. Long after the was pulled back, it's like,
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still Cruise's what is being heard?
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He gains to the end and freeze frames on the
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Geff and logo. He's still singing. Yeah, he got gotta
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talk about that cover because it's also the first movie
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cover with a Rolling Stones cover. Stir of Echo's or
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first movie cover has painted black cover, which I don't remember.
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A bad, really bad cover.
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Oh my goodness, is there any good Rolling Stones covers?
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I like the Sundays cover of Wild Horses that plays
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during the roller Coast is seen in Fear.
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Come on, I mean, here's here's a wild one for you.
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What's the The song did like an orchestra cover of
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it was sampled on Bittersweet Symphony.
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Oh yeah, what is that? Which? Yeah, that sounds a banger?
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Which yeah? And then Rolling Stones like took all the
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publishing for that song, and then that band like ceased
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to exist, and we're not able to make any money
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off of that song until they were like two years ago,
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which is almost instance insulting as just taking it for life.
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They were just like, after twenty five years, you can
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make some money off of it. Now, it's like, oh thanks.
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The Rolling Stones song that has the orchestral cover sample
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is the last time.
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That's right, I should.
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Listen to that for album because I only know that
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and Lucky Man and both those are really good, so
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maybe maybe they've got some. And Richard Ashcroft, of course,
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is the singer on Lone Be Sold by Uncle, which
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is a which is a bangor.
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Hell fucking yeah it. Oh my god. Every time I
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throw that on, I'm just like, this is a long song,
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was like six minutes, like ten minutes, buckle up, kicks
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fucking ass the whole time. Oh my god, Yeah love this.
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That whole album is fucking phenomenal. But yeah, the very
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bittersweet symphony that just one of the greatest Neil drops
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ever man, just the best.
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Wow, you're talking right. Of course, at the end of
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the Charlie XX movie, the moment I'm wait, what, yeah,
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I don't we know that because they play I had
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to exit greet that theater or whatever that was playing it,
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and like I heard that this thing has come up
482
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and I was like, oh, wow, there you go.
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Yeah, you can't do that, can't It was in cruel intentions,
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you can't do it anymore.
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Well. I also, of course forgot special. It's uh it
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ends the Xavier Dolan movie The Death of Life John
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af Donovan.
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Are you fucking that?
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I'm not kidding?
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Maybe the worst Neil drops of all fucking time that
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man has, because if we want to go through the
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Neil drops up, Mommy earnestly putting in Wonderwall, good Christ Almighty,
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ending this ending the movie on Born to was it
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Born to Die by Lana de that it sucks him
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and him and Trey Edward Schultz from from Waves Error
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should get together and just two dumb bitches saying exactly
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to each other.
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Except the ball.
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Oh god, has he done anything since the one? It's
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only the End of the World, which is literally just
501
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French people yelling at each other for an hour and
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a half.
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It's that. Then, like at least this was the case
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in like twenty nineteen in Canada, we had the privilege
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of this. We got death in Life of John af
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Donovan and Matis in Maxime Uh And then I think
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Mattiastomac scene like came out elsewhere in like twenty twenty.
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And then he did like some mini series that I
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can't remember the name of, and he's like retired now,
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and a lot and a lot of people were there
511
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were a lot of people who were being very snarky
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about that on Twitter, I remember, but that got announced.
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Ah geez, well, I hope you have a great time.
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Whatever you decide to pick up. I hope it's very singular.
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You keep to yourself about it. That's pretty awesome. The
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only Neil drop I know from the Life and Death
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whatever the fuck ever is he puts it in a
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hanging on a Moment by Lifehouse. I was like, what yeah.
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And kid Harrington also sings along to Jesus of Subrovia
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by green Day. I think the opening crands are such
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a rolling to the Deep by Adele.
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Dude, shut up, stop saying that a fucking kidd, dude.
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Oh my god. I don't have the words to describe,
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like what like I mean, it's the same thing I've
525
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phil watching Waves, where I was like, dude, I got it,
526
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I got it, I got it, I got it, I
527
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got it, Like like he his girlfriend breaks up with them,
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so he's gonna play I fucking hate you. But I
529
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tell the creator I was like, I already got it, man,
530
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and he Oh my god.
531
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I can't remember if I said this on MIC before,
532
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but I remember reviewing Waves from my school paper at
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the time, and I loved that movie at the time,
534
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.599
and I remember just like taking notes at the time
535
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and when I Am a God by Kanye West came up.
536
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I wrote that this is great, and then like two
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months later where the movie came out, Peper saying, get
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the fuck out of here with this nonsense. What is this?
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So you want me to tell you the story of
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my life, I'll tell you my story. I'll tell you
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all of it.
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I haven't been human for two hundred years. From the
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novel by Anne Rice from Neil Jordan, the director of
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the Crying Game.
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Life has no meaning anymore.
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Doesn't His name is Lestatt.
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What if I can give it back to you, pluck
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out the pain and give you another life, one you
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could never imagine.
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He chose one man. He gave him infinite power, eternal life,
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and a daughter who would be forever young. And then
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he took the light of day. You're a vampire who
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never knew what life was until it ran out in
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a red gush over your lips.
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You made us what we are. God kills indiscriminately, and
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so shall we.
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And her sorry and yours, But do not doubt you
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are Jem Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Stephen Ray, Antonio Benderis,
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Kirsten Dunst, and Christian Slater interview with the vampire.
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All the trivia I have. I don't have much to say.
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I find this movie extremely boring, but I do have
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some few notes. I'm not I'm not a vampire dude.
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I never have been. I think the only vampire movies
564
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I like or let the right one and let me in,
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which I kind of like let me in more just.
566
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Uh, Well, we talked about this, I think last week
567
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before we did before we did this episode, we talked
568
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about I ran through some other vampire movies. It's like,
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I think you like, like you're dark. I think you're
570
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also a fan of right, Like, there's a few of these.
571
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I like those movies in spite of them being vampire movies,
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If that makes sense.
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I don't know.
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I don't describe it, but they're they're like, like, say,
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you got like zombies, fucking vampires, I guess, like werewolves
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and stuff like that. I don't even care for zombies either,
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Like I like NAE Living Dead and On to the
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Dead shut as anybody should. But like like basically, if
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it's not by George Ramiro, I really don't care. Well,
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is like, well, well, yeah, of course, like one of
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the only one of like three good things to come
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out of Britain. But I mean, Reck's like top three
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horror movie for me. So there's that. But but as
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far as like people that are just like, oh man,
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what war z and some zombies and shit like that,
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I'm like, I if it's a good movie, sure, But
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I'm not one of those persons people that are just
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like obsessed with the idea of like a zombie or
589
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a vampire and we'll watch whatever. Yeah.
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I but a found footage vampire movie, well, someone got
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to cook that up for you. I think.
592
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I'm sure there already is, and I'm sure it sucks ass,
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and I'm sure it's a wide release horror movie and
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I just haven't seen it yet. It'd be like being like,
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do you want a Possession movie that's found footage? Be like,
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we only have thirty eight hundred of it, The Vatican tapes,
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the Devil Inside, uh, devil z own? Is that the
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radio silence guys?
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Right, Devil's do Yeah, that's a fun footage movie.
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Yeah, Oh wow, guess what. Guess what sucks ass?
601
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Live TEXTORSYSM. That's a fun footage movie too, right.
602
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.799
Oh I did watch the sequel to that last year.
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00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.160
I forgot about that. I saw the first one in theaters,
604
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loved it. I haven't seen it since, but I think
605
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I think people are kind of positive ish on that.
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I believe on life sexism. Yes, last SYS part two movie,
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well there you go.
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00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:36.000
Yeah, who plays the there's the mean girl in that
609
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because it's the same girl from the first one, but
610
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she's like not possessed anymore, and it's the type of
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thing like man that sure was wild. Hopefully that doesn't
612
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happen again. The mean girl in Last Exorcism too, which
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00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.759
I believe has like some choice ass barbs for it's
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Julia Garner, that's right, and yeah.
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Written co written by Damien Chazelle.
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Yes, yes, from writer Damien own producer Ali Roth.
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I like one of those guys.
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You could have just stopped talking after the second one,
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but I'm trying to David bot Roth. That's also the
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Simpsons bid where it's just like it holds a terrible curse.
621
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That's bad, but it also that's good, but it also
622
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does that that's bad. Was it?
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Yeah?
624
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Vampire is not my thing, especially when it's like when
625
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it goes for like the traditional row where it's like
626
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motherfucker and a mansion is setting like the eighteen hundreds. Like, motherfucker,
627
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.359
we have internet. This sucks, but so definitely this one
628
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:43.920
is not for me. Motherfucker's not exactly talking in Old
629
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English but kind of talking or wish they could talk
630
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in Old English. It just gives me the vibe of dusty. Okay,
631
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.680
it was a dusty ass film. Okay, I said, I
632
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.480
especially don't like vampires that speak in riddles. Shut up,
633
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Lord Farquaad, I was great, great notes here. Uh, when
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00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.200
Cruiz is dead, he looks busted, but then he comes
635
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.039
to life looking like wish Master. Have you ever seen
636
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:08.160
wish Master? Brdon I know you haven't, but no.
637
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:14.000
Uh is that one of the series where Jack's shoulder
638
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:16.200
who did the Hidden might have directed one of those?
639
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:23.559
Else? Yeah, the second one. Have I seen all four
640
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.599
of those? Yes? It was middle school, but yes, uh
641
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.799
the first one, Uh, it seems like people like it.
642
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.640
I mean I literally went through that. That was like
643
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sixth grade. I went through all of those. The fourth
644
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:37.759
one is directed by a guy named Chris Angel, but
645
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.400
not that Chris Angel. Cruz when he comes back that
646
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.400
that's the like the best makeup, Like if they had
647
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.519
to hang that motherfucker upside down for like three hours.
648
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.720
It was worth it, but I, yeah, it's not for me.
649
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.160
I can't exactly pin it down other than joking that
650
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.960
it seems like some old ship, but I just don't care.
651
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.240
And it's like an hour of just like Brad Pitt
652
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.720
fucking eating rats and shit and just being like, yeah,
653
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.960
I just thould like to live dangerously forever and be
654
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.440
like I didn't ask for this life. And then Tom
655
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.359
Cruise is like, let me stand on this milk rate,
656
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.400
so I'm eye to eye with you. Yes, you did
657
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:15.200
ask for this.
658
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.920
What if Pitt had done his performance in the Benjamin
659
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:25.279
Button voice just like I'm twenty years old.
660
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As somebody rewatched that movie before The Killer, I was like,
661
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.359
this is not a good movie, so that would not
662
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.440
exactly help for me. But there's that voice. And then
663
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.079
I said, Kate Plan is Katelan Shit is his love interest?
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00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:41.599
Right or she?
665
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Just like I held him in my arms and I
666
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.559
think I think he knew who I was. Yeah, yeah, No,
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00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:51.680
I don't like that movie. I really don't. Did I
668
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.440
buy like a sixty dollars like coffee table book for
669
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.839
that movie because I'm a psychopath? Yeah, I haven't even
670
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.440
looked at it anyways. What do you say think about
671
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Interview with the Vampire?
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I think I like this.
673
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.799
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. Interview with the Vampire the
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Vampire Chronicles, please continue.
675
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319
Oh thick goodness, I was gonna talk to someone completely differ.
676
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.599
Yeah, the TV show Interview with the Vampire. Oh my bad.
677
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.720
Yeah, I like this. I think a lot more than
678
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.279
you do. I do think I have some qualms with that.
679
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.759
I think this movie has like has like a major
680
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.279
energy drop in like after the first hour when Cruise
681
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disappears from the narrative because you are just stuck with
682
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like Brad Pitt moping around, and like Bendaris and Ray
683
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.720
are fun when they pop up as the villains, but
684
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.640
I just there's not They're not as like fun to
685
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.759
watch in a villain as way as like Cruise is
686
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when he's like in flip out mode like throwing tantrums,
687
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.079
I mean, Cruise yelling. I think I think I think
688
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.400
that's just funny to hear. Like I'm thinking of like
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00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.920
a few Good Men where he's like, oh, I'm sorry,
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00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:55.920
I forgot you were a stick that they did. They
691
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.519
talk a lot of law school like he's very good
692
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.359
when he's being like Caddy in that sort of way,
693
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:03.200
and he has like a lot of good lines here
694
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.400
where like when they think they've killed him and he
695
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.640
comes back and they're like, how did you get out,
696
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:15.840
He's like ask the alligator. But yeah, And I like,
697
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.079
but I will say, even when this movie is sort
698
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of narratively dragging for me, I think it's it's not
699
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.400
surprised that this was nominated for production design because I
700
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.159
think this movie is pretty gorgeous to look at. I mean,
701
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like when they're going to that the theater performance where
702
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:35.039
it's like vampires like just killing people for an audience
703
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.519
that I guess is unsuspecting. Uh. But like the like
704
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.639
there's that crane shot where it's like they're going down
705
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.800
they're going into the theater and like there's like snake
706
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statues they're sticking out from the top of the building.
707
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.280
That's really cool. I like like all the shots of
708
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the skies and everything, Like I think it's like again
709
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like the last there of the movie where like you know,
710
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they got like a shot that either late or the
711
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.360
late evening or early morning sky and like it's like
712
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blood red clouds just looks like I think it's really nice.
713
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.440
I'm like that the score has like its moments where
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it's like very like sorrowful and sentimental and everything, but
715
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.559
then there's moments where like it will like get really
716
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cranked up. Elliott Goldenthal, who I think has like worked
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with like Michael Man before, and I think did he
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also work with Neil Jordan like other times? I think,
719
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but like at one point I think it's maybe he.
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It might be the scene when Brad Pitt is like
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just like setting everybody on fire at the end, and
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like it's like sounds like alarm bells are going off
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in it. Even though Cruises is non screen, it did
724
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.440
make me think of the opening to the mission Impossible Team.
725
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It's like, No, the stunts in this movie, by the way,
726
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are awesome, especially like the bit where like Cruise like
727
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gets out fire and like he's like climbing the ceiling.
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I'm just like, that's like fucking insane looking stunt when
729
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.559
it looks like that personally is like actually on fire.
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00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:53.039
Elliott Goldenthal did Public Enemies did good score, and then
731
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for Neil Jordan, Michael Collins, butcher Boy in Dreams, which
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we are that's our intermission is in The Good Thief,
733
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and I think that thing. He also did the score
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for Across the Universe, which is one of the worst
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films of all time. Please continue.
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Yeah, we were talking about Rolling Stones covers. I've heard
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00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.599
that movie is full of terrible Beatles covers.
738
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.880
The worst music you've ever heard, like truly, and I
739
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.119
love the Beatles because I am white, but like the
740
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.320
worst covers of all time. And it's just like, hey,
741
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.679
you got Bono, Bono can sing and whatnot and be like, Okay,
742
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.280
what if every single one of them sounded like the
743
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backing track for a karaoke song, Like it sucks so bad.
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00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.599
Julian Tamore got Freedom though Freedom School, Like Titus is
745
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a movie that like I like looked at the screen,
746
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but nothing went into my brain because I was just no, no,
747
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I don't know.
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Yeah, isn't Titus, Like isn't that one where like there
749
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was like some I remember watching some video I say
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about like tep music, and I think, like the score
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for that someone used that score as like like the
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basis as like type music, or like they made the
753
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score sound very similar to Titus. I'm like, my memory
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is back maybe even three hundred that maybe got in
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trouble with that right here.
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The score for the two thousand and seven film three hundred,
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composed by Tyler Bates, became the subject of most criticism
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regarding the somewhat liberal use of other composers' orchestrations. At times.
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Note for No included pieces from the title score, in
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particular it's fucking old English bullshit. Warner Brothers Pictures released
761
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the statement clarifying the matter with regards of similarities, acknowledges
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00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.360
the regrets that are number of bah blah blah blah blah.
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For the most it has a great respect for Elliot
764
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or long time cloud better and it's pleased to have
765
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amicably resolved this matter, so they pay the shit out
766
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of him as well. Wow, Tyler Bates has done some
767
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:43.920
scores set up like like how the fuck do you
768
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.679
continue to work after that? Like you just stole shit
769
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.400
like whatever.
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00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.440
Anyways, back to the vampire movie that I'm movie that
771
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to be clear, I do actually like it is funny,
772
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like how like it's like I do sometimes and this
773
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.159
is sometimes the problem I have with you know, turn movies. Really,
774
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I sometimes just get thrown out by the pa, thrown
775
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:05.320
off by the pacing where it doesn't even feel like
776
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it's necessarily building to some to like a big thing,
777
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but like just like a lot of crazy shit will
778
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happen on screen, or like just like a lot of
779
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.239
wild ship will happen on screen. Like Michael Collins like
780
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sort of had this thing too, where it's just like
781
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.760
characters will have a conversation and it will just drop
782
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:19.760
you into the middle of a shootout. I'm just like, WHOA.
783
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I'm like just kind of like this is a dizzy
784
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.920
intern of events that's that's unfolding right here. But he
785
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.880
does have a really good feel for atmosphere, and I
786
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.559
do think he is He's pretty good with the actors,
787
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.199
and I do think there are and I think there's
788
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.519
like a lot of good like dark humor coursing through it.
789
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I think a lot of that comes from Cruise's performance
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and how he's written. I think there's even a line
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in the movie where Cruz, like last at himself, is
792
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:46.440
talking about how like it's like it's like during Pitt's
793
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narration where he's like running through like the sort of
794
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dining uh courses of the stats victims and everything, where
795
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.519
it's like he starts out like you know, female people
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who are maybe like you know, you're just like marginalized
797
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in the community, which that is a thing that I
798
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.800
think the movie is critical of. And but then it's
799
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.360
like then we'll move on to like the aristocrats or whatever.
800
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And then, like I think Crew says like it's like
801
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.440
the terrible people are always so much more fun to
802
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.039
feed on it. It's like sort of like I think
803
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.840
that's true of the movie's Company, where it's like Lestad's
804
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.400
more fun to hand it with because like, yeah, he's
805
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.719
a terrible person or anything, but like he's so cruz
806
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:20.440
is like having so much fun with it. I mean,
807
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:21.880
it's like some of it is like a case of
808
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.760
her like you laugh at it, and other times like
809
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.199
you're kind of nervous to laugh about it. Like when
810
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he's like messing with the one sex worker where he's
811
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.880
like puts her in the coffin and she's like she's like, oh,
812
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:34.199
it's a coffin. I guess you must be damt, and
813
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.840
like he's like just like his delivery is like it's like,
814
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I mean, he's having fun. The fact that he is
815
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.239
having fun is kind of like what makes the scene disturbing,
816
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and especially because that scene starts out where like it
817
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.440
is like they are seem like they're having a good time,
818
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.480
but then she becomes aware of what's going on. It's
819
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.239
really upsetting. I don't know. But then like Pet, I
820
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don't know, he's just like and I think Pets, you know,
821
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brogardless of who he is as a person, which.
822
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Is like anonymous in this movie to make and like
823
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when he's like I.
824
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Could, I feel like he's reaching emotionally in other parts
825
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and it's just not quite there, like when he like
826
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kills tanduy Newton and like he's carrying her out. He's
827
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like this place is damned and it's just like the
828
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.800
boys just like it seems like he's like reaching for
829
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.000
the emotion and it just doesn't sound quite all the
830
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way they are. Chris the Dunst is incredible in this though.
831
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I do think she's quite good in this, especially like
832
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.000
when she she is very like how there are moments
833
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.440
where she does seem like a genuine kid and like
834
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it's very it's like you do think it's very sweep,
835
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and then you see how she like weaponizes it and everything,
836
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like when she like even when she is being like
837
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.119
menacing to people, like when she like bites the one
838
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.159
seems to just his finger and like, oh, make it better,
839
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and then like snatches it like she's doing like a
840
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childish prank and everything. And I do think the movie
841
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:44.719
gets like a lot of like good dark comedy out
842
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of like that, where like when she's like going into
843
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the the shop and like the guy says, like, you know,
844
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.400
I think that doll might be too expensive for you,
845
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.800
little girl, then it just like hustle her approach. She
846
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approaches him and cuts to her just walking down the
847
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street with the doll, like and BLI It's like, Oh,
848
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.800
she just like killed this guy, so he should get
849
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.039
this twice. I mean, yeah, it's uh, there's a lot
850
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.840
of stuff that there's stuff in this movie that like
851
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.800
doesn't entirely work, but like I do think it's like
852
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:09.800
really well put together. It's the kind of thing where
853
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:11.960
it's like if this didn't if this was by a
854
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.079
director who didn't have as much visual sense or like
855
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.440
feel for atmosphere and didn't have and if the cast,
856
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:19.880
the rest of the supporting cast outside of Brad Pitt
857
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.119
wasn't so strong, I realize I'm naming a lot of
858
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.039
important factors in movies. I maybe wouldn't enjoy this very much.
859
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:27.559
But it's the kind of thing where it's like, I mean,
860
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.440
I don't know, I've I've come to admire some of
861
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.239
what Neil Jordan does very well as a director, and
862
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:33.639
it's the kind of thing like I haven't seen the
863
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:38.079
interview with a vampire TV show that AMC did, I believe,
864
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.400
and it's like I'm sure that that that that's good
865
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.000
and everything. But it's the thing I like, I don't know,
866
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.719
is it doesn't look as good as this movie does.
867
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.559
I doubt, Like I mean, like yeah, and Philip Russillo,
868
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.400
I think he was like a Burton regular for a while,
869
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.639
like in terms of like happiness cinematographer. So like again,
870
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.400
like a guy like Jordan's working with a guy who
871
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.280
has like a really would feel for like who like
872
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.039
has worked with directors and knows how to like you know,
873
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:08.119
work with a build like distinct worlds. I feel very tactile,
874
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.800
but also were like kind of otherworldly. Yeah, I don't know.
875
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.599
I like this movie. It's not it's never been my movie.
876
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.320
I saw it relatively late in life. I think I
877
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:18.519
was like I watched it like when I was doing
878
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:22.960
my resolution of like watching films my Irish filmmakers back
879
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.519
in like twenty twenty three. I was just I watched
880
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.320
like fifteen. I was just like, I think I've maybe
881
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:32.199
overextended myself here, but yeah, no, I like this movie.
882
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.920
It's it's one of it probably in my top five
883
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.880
for Neil Jordan's Like, I think the two that I
884
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.639
like more than this are Crying Game and Butcher Boy,
885
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.079
But like, this one is still like has like a
886
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.119
lot to offer that I enjoy about it.
887
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.880
It's seen in Game and Dreams yet uh not yet.
888
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.320
Uh you gotta wait for the intermission, that's right. Have
889
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:53.400
you seen Queen of the Damned?
890
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.440
Though, No, I was talking about that recently with my brother.
891
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.599
I think my brother was watching that. It was probably
892
00:42:58.639 --> 00:42:59.519
on two B or something.
893
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.599
That's film incredible soundtrack.
894
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:03.679
That's why I've heard. I think a friend of the show,
895
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:05.360
Mike Thorne, said that in order for that movie to
896
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.440
be better, you needed like way more Jonathan Davis score. Yeah.
897
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.519
Well yeah, not only that, but oh yeah it took.
898
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.880
I didn't actually finally watch that movie until like two
899
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.039
or three years ago, and I was just like, oh no,
900
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.519
it's bad, which I expected, but even a Leah can't
901
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.719
even say that, and it I'm pretty sure she died
902
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:26.599
like in the middle of filming, so they kind of
903
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.800
had to like work around that. But also AMC just
904
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.480
started a series about a set that's in that frame
905
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:37.000
of mind where he's the singer rock star, so okay.
906
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:41.360
Also, I will say queend the damn distrected by Michael Brimer,
907
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.480
who did uh the omar aps cool j crime movie
908
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:51.440
into Deep. George Jordan may be a better director than
909
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:52.039
Michael ran.
910
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.519
I do want to watch in Too Deep though, but
911
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:57.880
not expecting that much. But is that all he's done
912
00:43:57.960 --> 00:43:59.360
is in Too Deep and quointed the damn?
913
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.880
Know? He also did a lot of TV looks like.
914
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.679
But yeah, anyway, do we want to go through the
915
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.719
plot of Interview with the Vampire? I mean sure, yeah.
916
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.519
So starts out in San Francisco. You do get those
917
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.320
that really cool series of shots where it starts out
918
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.800
just like like helicopter shots or aerial shots, and then
919
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:19.360
like it gets down to ground level and it feels
920
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.119
like you're almost like kind of in a first person
921
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.719
POV as you're like sort of moving through a crowd
922
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.840
of people and then you land on the apartments where
923
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.280
Christians later is interviewing Brad Pitt. There are some really
924
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.679
cool effects with someone, like the ways that the vampires
925
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:34.559
I mean that like the way that Brad Pitt sort
926
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.360
of shows he really is a vampires. He moves really
927
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.440
fast around the room. And there is a really cool
928
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.559
shot where it's after they've tried to kill the stat
929
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.719
and uh, pitts and cruises in the foreground at the piano.
930
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:53.079
The camera whips to the left and everything as Pitt
931
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.119
and Duns try to run away and then cruise just
932
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:56.920
like pops out from the corner and everything. It's like
933
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.360
that's a cool effect. Like it's like that that that's
934
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.840
like especially because it's not like they're just like cutting
935
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:03.920
the second time. It's like they or if they are cutting,
936
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.639
they're like hiding it pretty well. And then uh, yeah,
937
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:08.840
as you said, it's like you know, uh a pit
938
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:10.760
just it says like, so you want to know how
939
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.639
I got to this point, Well, let's tell the story.
940
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.599
And he I mean, even though he is a position
941
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.519
himself as like a victim and a lot of this,
942
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.119
he he is not a good guy to start the
943
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.440
movie with. He is like a guy who owns slaves.
944
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:30.360
He is like depressed because he's lost his wife. What
945
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.159
did I say that that inspired?
946
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.360
I was like, I don't know if I wanted to
947
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.239
be like, come on, it's a different time.
948
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.199
Good god, my goodness.
949
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.079
Yeah, he all of our protagonists used to be able
950
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.039
to do that, but now it's looked down upon. What
951
00:45:53.239 --> 00:46:00.920
does it cut back to exactly seventeen ninety one?
952
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.039
There you go, I will say, Uh, the movie is
953
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.000
like I think upfront about like you know him and
954
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.519
like cruise or like feeding on people that like society
955
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.239
doesn't really care about, whether it's like sex workers, black people,
956
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:16.199
poor people, there's not They never say any racist slurs
957
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:17.760
at any point in the movie. I wonder if that
958
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.840
that which that that's just a thing that like I'm
959
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.159
not saying, I don't I don't want to hear those words.
960
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.599
And it's just an interesting thing that like they don't slaves.
961
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:25.800
I'm not gonna call them names.
962
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:33.280
But yeah, so he's super he's like suicidally depressed. He's
963
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:36.000
like back practically begging, he's putting himself in situations where
964
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.320
he wants to be killed. But then when he is being.
965
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:42.000
Attacked, his pregnant wife died.
966
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.719
Yes, Yeah, and he's like you know, can't bleaed his
967
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.239
money away. He's drinking a lot. And while he's at
968
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.440
one night in a in a Gretnaane situation, the stat
969
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.280
storm's in kills his attackers and also bites him and
970
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.960
drops him on the water. And he's not quite a
971
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.800
vampire yet, but he's very sick. And Cruise comes to
972
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.960
him and like he says, you, I could not either
973
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:05.199
let you die or I could make you a vampire
974
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.199
where and you'll be like you'll be healthy and you'll
975
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:11.000
never like die ever again. And Cruise and and like
976
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:12.400
Pitt accepts this.
977
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.440
Yes, it's just like, so either you can kill me
978
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.880
or I become a vampire. It's just like it's kind
979
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:22.800
of catch up and be like, hey, I wish you
980
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.320
didn't bite me to begin with, that'd be cool, But
981
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:27.840
now I have no choice.
982
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:29.719
Yes, I have to be one.
983
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.599
Hundred and fifty years old and walk out of Tequila
984
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:32.119
Sunrise Mill.
985
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.079
Yeah that's fine, Yeah, I will say I do. I
986
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:36.800
do like that bit at the end of everything, because
987
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.280
like he that is like one of the last members.
988
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.760
He has some mortals, like he's you watch my It's like,
989
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:42.400
you know, I don't remember watching the sunrise before but
990
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.599
I remember just to clean my last time rise and
991
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.960
then he goes to the graveyard and he it's funny.
992
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:50.280
I do think it's funny both times of cruises, like
993
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.000
it's getting people to like he's like the vampire transformation
994
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.280
is like he has to have them drink his blood
995
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:57.880
and everything. But every time he like offers his arm up,
996
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.239
but like people like start sucking the body's like, hey,
997
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.679
stop it, that's too much. As if like he's like
998
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.840
didn't know if he's like, oh man, must be it
999
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.639
must be terrible when I do that to other people.
1000
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.199
Some of that feels like wow, I feel bad.
1001
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:15.559
Yeah. I mean there's like a long stretch of the
1002
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.280
there's a good stretch of the movie where they are
1003
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.559
just going around h killing people and like Pitt is
1004
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.159
like super reluctant better and he's like feeding on rats
1005
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.800
and and uh I mean what I mean. Yeah, Pitt
1006
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.480
is like a real web like in this And I
1007
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.559
do think it's very funny every time like cruise, like
1008
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.199
this is sort of like dunking on Where's He's like,
1009
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:36.880
I don't need to spell you, right, I just need
1010
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.760
to follow the trail of rats to find you.
1011
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.480
There's a plague going on, so he's literally eating plague rats.
1012
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:48.000
Right, Yes, that's how we find dunt stripe By, right, Yeah,
1013
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.360
but before that, he he kills like it's like him
1014
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.440
and Cruise are killing a bunch of the slaves and
1015
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.199
then like that's like a thing that's like people are
1016
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:57.920
starting to like you know, get stirred up about that,
1017
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.800
and then he what really is it over in terms
1018
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.039
of like his guilts, It's like he kills ted Way Newton,
1019
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.639
who's always like very compassionate towards him, and then like
1020
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.480
he burns his own place down, and Cruise is very
1021
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.880
funny where he birst. He's like, great, just burn everything
1022
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:16.440
we have and then they fly away, and yeah, the
1023
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:21.159
plague is going on. They find Dunst. A Pitt finds Dunst,
1024
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:25.480
and you know, he he feeds on her. I guess
1025
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:27.920
like he's definitely like feeling like some sort of like
1026
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.280
he's he's very hungry, but also he's like viewing her
1027
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.559
like you know, like his own child. They never had.
1028
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.960
Cruise but then like completes the transformation for her to
1029
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:40.239
become a vampire, and then she like immediately takes to it.
1030
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.719
She's like I'm hungry. And then they start letting together
1031
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.880
kind of like a like a weird family, but like
1032
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:49.519
it's the dissonance of like them being like a happy
1033
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.199
family wherever they're buying buying gifts for each other. But
1034
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.920
she's also like killing her piano teacher, which that's a
1035
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:57.440
funny bit where like, you know, when she's like, you know,
1036
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.719
playing away like a little maestro and everything, but then
1037
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:01.920
like the and then like the sort of big crescendo
1038
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:04.400
to the piano pieces, the teacher falling down dead on
1039
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.440
the on the keys. She starts to get really antsy though,
1040
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.920
as like the years passed by where she like sees
1041
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:12.599
like a grown woman and says like, oh am, I
1042
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.320
ever going to be like that, and like it is
1043
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:20.400
like uh. And then it's revealed when she like throws
1044
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.280
the temper tantrum about all the dolls that she has,
1045
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:23.679
how she doesn't want to be a top forever. She
1046
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.360
takes all the dolls off the bed, it's revealed that
1047
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.280
woman she was looking at is dead under the pile
1048
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.000
of it. And then she tries to cut her own
1049
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.639
hair off and it just like grows back into the curls,
1050
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.280
which that's an interesting thing. Yeah, Like it's I think
1051
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.960
Pitt and has like long hair to begin with, and
1052
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.000
it just kind of looks the same and everything, but
1053
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:41.880
like Dunce to her hair is like kind of just
1054
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.599
like you know, dirty and straight and everything, but they
1055
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.639
trans like curls and or anything where she does look
1056
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.920
like a toy. Pitt and Dunce get really frustrated living
1057
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.760
with Cruise, so they give him a corpse that's what
1058
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:59.000
he feeds off of, and then he starts getting all
1059
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:06.079
sickly and they slash his throat. Yeah, that's an interesting thing.
1060
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.440
It's funny how like that this movie is like playing
1061
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:12.440
off of like the the sort of vampire lore and
1062
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:16.360
everything where it's like crucifixes aren't a problem. They can
1063
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.840
go into any place uninvited, but some like bad and
1064
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.159
if you just chop them in half, they're they're dead.
1065
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.719
It seems like that'd be like pretty easy and like
1066
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:27.559
like I'm thinking, especially like in the end and everything,
1067
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:29.719
where like Brad Pitt like just sets a bunch of
1068
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:32.559
vampires off far like cuts Stephen Ray in half. It's like, hmmm,
1069
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.679
feels like that's a pretty easy way to to overcome them.
1070
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.480
Where but then like Byzantium. The other deal Jordan vampire
1071
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.360
movie that I watched his research for that, Like it
1072
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:42.719
is like they're they're like they have to be invited
1073
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.199
in and they're but they're cool to walk around in sunlight.
1074
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:46.719
I don't like.
1075
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.519
I don't like court villains that have rules.
1076
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:49.880
You don't like the rules.
1077
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.960
No, zomies don't have rules. They just want to feed
1078
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:57.320
even then. I'm not like, it's just like it's always
1079
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.079
when nighttime hits. When nighttime hits, vampires come in on,
1080
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.000
werewolves come out. Why isn't there scary shit that happens
1081
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:04.039
at like two thirty pm?
1082
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:05.760
I mean, is it the rules? Obviously you have to
1083
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.239
shoot them in the head or like have to shoot
1084
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.960
their brains, and like if you're bitten, that's bad.
1085
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.280
All right, But imagine if it was just like they
1086
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.559
can't come into this room I blessed it, I'd be
1087
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:18.760
like that sucks. I think it's more so than just
1088
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:20.199
like they have to be invited in, you have to
1089
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.519
kill them. This way, they're no, they'll never age, but
1090
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.840
they'll still they can grow. And it's just like dog,
1091
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:27.719
I'm trying to be scared. I'm not trying to learn.
1092
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.880
I will say. With the Byzantium Research a movie I
1093
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.760
liked pretty well, yeah, I like it fine. It's interesting
1094
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.079
how an interview of the vampire there is like the
1095
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.519
threat of this where it is like, you know, white
1096
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.599
European guy or no, not European. It's in the South
1097
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.880
that the movie starts at. Sorry, but white guys who
1098
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:53.000
are then feeding on communities that are marginalized and everything
1099
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:54.960
as a way to sort of sustain their own their
1100
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.079
own legacies and everything. And Byzantium has that where it's
1101
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:02.000
the English. It's like the English visiting upon like other
1102
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.199
societies like and like I think it's in Ireland that
1103
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.239
the movie takes place, and like they're like, you know,
1104
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.679
using them, like uh, Like Johnny Lee Miller is sort
1105
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:11.159
of like the big bat that like you know, it's
1106
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.079
like in like the flashbacks to that movie where he's
1107
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.559
like he forces Gema Artisan into sex work and then
1108
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:18.440
like Sam Riley is like the other English soldier who
1109
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.239
like like his vamporism deserves so that he's like he's
1110
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.119
like feeding on other parts of the Irish treaty. It's
1111
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.519
just kind of interesting how vampism has been deserved, like
1112
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.760
as like a colonial sort of like supernatural villain in
1113
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.079
both these Neil Jordan works, both of which are adaptations.
1114
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:35.119
I think if like pre existing works Byzantium's a play.
1115
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.000
I think before and Interviewing the Vampire, as we talked about,
1116
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.840
is a series of books dunst and yeah, right, they feed,
1117
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.039
but they initially feed Cruise to the gators in the swamp.
1118
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.800
He comes back. Then they sat out on fire and
1119
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.280
it seems like he's just put and then they flee
1120
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.800
the country to they flee to Paris, where this is
1121
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.199
another weird thing is like that like they they think
1122
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:59.239
that they're like like the only other vampire that they
1123
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.880
meet at besides Cruise is Stephen Ray and Antonio Benderis
1124
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.320
and their their whole crew. I feel like they'd probably
1125
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.119
be if it just I know, I know, like vampire.
1126
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:10.400
I'm not, I shouldn't be daging this movie for realism,
1127
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:16.239
but it's like him find vampires anywhere else except Paris, Okay, Yeah,
1128
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:18.719
And like they're part like Ray and Bendez are part
1129
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.159
of like a theater troupe, where like their whole gimmick
1130
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:24.039
is that they perform for like the common human crowd
1131
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.079
and make it seem like they're doing like this sort
1132
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:30.159
of like goofy uh sort of like shit where it's like,
1133
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:33.079
I mean, like they make the observation it's like vampires
1134
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:36.360
pretend to be humans, to be pretending to be vampires,
1135
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.079
how avant garde and.
1136
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.840
Then gelling out their own people from money god.
1137
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:44.800
Yeah, And then there is like this kind of eerie
1138
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.400
scene where it is like kind of like this goofy
1139
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.880
sort of like these goofy theater effects, and then like
1140
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.320
it does turn into something uh that feels very real
1141
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.440
where it's like a woman just screaming out saying hell, hell,
1142
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:56.880
I'm like under attack from vampires and everyone's laught fir
1143
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.920
like ahh. But then like she is put under this transfer.
1144
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:01.920
She is then like just drained by like the whole
1145
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:04.920
vampire cast. And I do think it's like an effectively
1146
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.519
effective observation where it's like the crowd is like he
1147
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:09.440
was like cheering the sound they walk out just kind
1148
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:12.519
of like geez. Like everyone just seems kind of like
1149
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.280
hushed and embarrassed everything that they witnessed. There's like a
1150
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:19.920
whole like underground cellar where like the vampires are all
1151
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.880
sleeping in coffins and that's all like baited in red.
1152
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.199
It's very it's very atmospheric and cool looking and Bendero's
1153
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:29.880
really wants to link up a pit. But then Pitt,
1154
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.000
for for whatever reason, he gets like double crossed by
1155
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:39.159
like Stephen Ray and like it's like him Dunst and
1156
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.159
then like another woman who like Dunst and turned into
1157
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.280
a vampire as like an attempt to like make like
1158
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.360
a mother figure. Like they all get kidnapped done like
1159
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:49.519
Pitt is like stealed up it behind the brick wall,
1160
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:51.760
and Dunston the women are like put in like a
1161
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.199
cave with like where it's like there's like a grape
1162
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:59.960
above them where like there's sunlight poking through. And yeah,
1163
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.360
that's really effective that scene where like yo, it's the
1164
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.440
camera like as the sun is coming down upon him,
1165
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.199
it's like the camera just like wrapsoms in towards them.
1166
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.400
And then like when Pitt finds them, they're like turned
1167
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.559
to ash and it's kind of like Pompeii and everything,
1168
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:13.679
where like they're like frozen and embracing and he touches
1169
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:23.639
them and they dissolved. Yes I did, dude, Sorry, And
1170
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:27.000
then Pitt just like absolutely goes ballistic with this. He
1171
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.679
just like starts like pouring like barrels of wine on
1172
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:30.480
the caskets and.
1173
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.239
Like he just like torches them by Pire's come like
1174
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.480
so many fires set by this motherfucker.
1175
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:40.559
Yeah, it looks incredible. I mean, my goodness. And then
1176
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.920
like you know, people are like jumping out of the
1177
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.679
coffins and like you know, flying across the room like
1178
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.119
on fire. Uh. Stephen Ray tries to fight Pitt and
1179
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.440
gets like cut in half like two seconds later, and
1180
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.079
then Benderas is like, oh man, I didn't have any
1181
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.119
idea that this was gonna be happening. I'm so sorry,
1182
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.960
and Pitt is like, well, uh, fuck you. I don't
1183
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.320
want to be with you, but like you know, I don't.
1184
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:05.280
We don't. We shouldn't be doing this. And then he
1185
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.360
kind of just like the movie like just like rapid
1186
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.840
speed like runs through like the next like century of
1187
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:12.320
his life. But this is the thing of like he
1188
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:13.960
talks about, the thing that really hits on him is
1189
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.079
like He's like then most pictures developed, and I was
1190
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.480
able to see my beautiful sunsets and you just go.
1191
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:21.239
We just see him watching like a sun sunset and
1192
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:25.559
sunrise scene movies Sunrise by Rnow to kill a Sunrise
1193
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:31.480
up by Robert town Geffen, a film alumna alumni. I
1194
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.239
imaginally also to see like this is like where he
1195
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.440
gets like all his things, like I'm only getting my
1196
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:41.559
my music and films from Sunrise Records or whatever. Yeah,
1197
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.679
and then in like the eighties, he like is like
1198
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:47.960
walking through New Orleans and he says he like smells
1199
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.360
old death. And he walks through like this at this
1200
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.639
abandoned house and he finds the stat all all like
1201
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:56.599
a shell of himself. He's been eating rats. Thinks that
1202
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:58.679
he sort of like makes acts like he's made peace
1203
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:00.440
with him. Cruse, I think is very in the plane
1204
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.159
of like playing this scene, like he is genuinely afraid
1205
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:06.519
of uh of pits and he's terrified of like the
1206
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:10.679
the police helicopters that come by with their spotlights, which
1207
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:13.679
the spotlights wouldn't it wouldn't see them.
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00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.320
Okay, we'll lookout for a guy that looks like one
1209
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.320
hundred ninety years old. It looks like ship.
1210
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:22.880
Yeah, he's one hundred and fifty, but it looks a
1211
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.519
lot old. And then cuts back to like the end
1212
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:29.920
and like and Pitt says like, and then, uh, I
1213
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.360
don't know that's really all I have to offer. I
1214
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:33.559
don't have anything really to offer beyond just what happened
1215
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.760
my life. It's later it's like, come on, man, teach me.
1216
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.119
I want to be a vampire. And then uh, and
1217
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.360
then Pitt like menaicism by like you know, getting into
1218
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:41.760
a chuckle. It says, do you want this to say?
1219
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.599
You're like, actually, I guess not, and then uh. And
1220
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:48.079
then Pitt disappears and he like drives away in his uh,
1221
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:52.239
his douicey looking convertible, and he's like, somebody change my shorts,
1222
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:57.039
and then uh, I'm doing a very bad Christian Slater pressure.
1223
00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:59.800
I think I'm also doing a very bad Christian Slater impression.
1224
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.559
Suspense Is Killing Us did an episode many years ago
1225
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.639
called Christian Idolatry Great pun Work, and that was like
1226
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.360
the that was their impression. The more the three that
1227
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.000
they did they did Blame Me, the Cube Cuffs and
1228
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.880
Hard Rain, which actually that movie watched all of those
1229
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.360
Hard Rain is kind of awesome. It's a hurricane heist movie.
1230
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.320
Good cast. But yeah, that was like their impression was
1231
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.000
that they would do that voice and then have to
1232
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:26.239
whenever he'd do like a shitty joke. I guess that
1233
00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:28.119
happens a lot and cuffs, which where he's just like
1234
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.760
doing stupid quips the whole movie. Yeah, and then uh,
1235
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:32.880
Cruse pops up again and says like, I guess I
1236
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.119
need no introduction and bites him. And then he's like
1237
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.639
taking the wheel and he's like, I feel better already,
1238
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.119
And here's the pit on the cassette. He's like, do
1239
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:42.159
we really have to listen to that? I got to
1240
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:45.039
listen to that winding for centuries, and he puts on
1241
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.559
the way worse decision of Duns and Roses cover of
1242
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:51.519
the Rolling Stone Sympathy for the Devil, which plays in
1243
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:54.800
its entirety for the many minutes.
1244
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.000
Bridge Please.
1245
00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.679
Yeah, it's like the song is playing over like the
1246
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.599
law on sort of aerials. You'm out of the Golden Gate.
1247
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:06.079
Bridge image fades out, not the song. Now, I just
1248
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.639
have to listen to that, and I will confess I've
1249
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.119
seen this movie before. I opened some other tabs while
1250
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.639
I was playing, because I was like, all right, I
1251
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:15.559
need to record first, I need to record with you,
1252
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:17.400
and else I was like, I don't I want to
1253
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:18.360
focus on somebody else.
1254
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:23.119
In between him attacking Slater and him being in New
1255
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:27.360
Orleans like decrepit eating fucking rats. How did he become
1256
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:31.920
just like reborn enough to like fly down and go
1257
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.599
all the way from New Orleans to San fran Because
1258
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:39.360
I guess he found out that the fucking Pitt was
1259
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.039
having an interview with some guy and he wants to
1260
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.679
kill the interviewer and turn him into a fit. Am
1261
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:47.800
I thinking too much into the Vampire Chronicles?
1262
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:50.000
I don't know. Maybe it was like a bad breakup
1263
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.400
where it's like he was wallowing for like one hundred years,
1264
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.559
but like maybe time passes so quickly there it is
1265
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:57.039
just like it was the hundred years was the equivalent
1266
01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:58.719
of like a weekend where he's just like, all right,
1267
01:00:58.760 --> 01:00:59.400
I'm good now.
1268
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:02.840
And you tried to find Pitt and he's like, who
1269
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:04.840
are you talking to? Who's this guy in the fucking
1270
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:06.880
you know what? I don't even need you. I'm gonna
1271
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:08.800
turn this guy into the vampire and he's gonna be
1272
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:09.800
my young Ward.
1273
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.400
And it's funny like Slater, who like is like you know,
1274
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.000
like it's like what twenty five when you said this,
1275
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:18.360
But the TV show it's Eric Bagosian who plays the reporter,
1276
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.199
and it's like, well that you went in a very
1277
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:21.880
different direction generation.
1278
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:24.039
Trying to put that man in a headlog.
1279
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:28.360
I know you, I like this movie pretty well, but like, yeah,
1280
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:30.000
I mean we did. I feel like we have like
1281
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:34.039
run through our thoughts on the movie. Uh, visually and narratively.
1282
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.000
I mean it is just kind of like a lot
1283
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:38.559
of like they go to this place and and what
1284
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:39.760
do you know, things go badly.
1285
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:44.880
I'm saying interesting. Neil Jordan also cited Francis Ford Copla
1286
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.760
Dracula's influence. That's why I don't like this movie to
1287
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:53.119
see that. Yeah, the rights were actually purchased by Paramount
1288
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:56.559
in seventy six and then it just languished forever.
1289
01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:58.800
When's that first book written.
1290
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.000
Him around that time? Because I'm sure they just, oh
1291
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.679
yeah it was. The book was in seventy six as well,
1292
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.000
so yeah they pass. Yeah they picked that.
1293
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:12.159
Shit, I mean fast in terms of like the book
1294
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.000
being written in an option making the film. Yes, you're right,
1295
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.440
that did take a while at bits. Yeah.
1296
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:21.039
Jordan was intrigued by the script that Warner Brothers because
1297
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.719
eventually went to Warner Brothers. I was intrigued by the script,
1298
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:27.440
calling it really interesting and its slightly theatrical, but was
1299
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:31.079
especially interested he wanted to agree to direction on the
1300
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:33.679
Kitchen condition he was allowed to write his own script,
1301
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.119
though he did not get again or writing credit, So
1302
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.199
I still don't know who's telling the truth about if
1303
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:41.079
he actually wrote it, if he didn't, I don't know.
1304
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.400
Oh and apparently Daniel Dayluiz turned it down is he
1305
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:46.400
didn't want to portray her Vampire I actually was shot
1306
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.480
in New Orleans, Paris, San fran and London.
1307
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.440
So yeah, no, I mean yeah, and interesting too because
1308
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:55.639
like I mean, I guess Jordan at the clout to
1309
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.239
do that at the time, just like shooting those real places,
1310
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.320
whereas like flash forward to twenty twenty three where Marlowe
1311
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:03.360
comes out where it's like set in la By shot
1312
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:07.960
in Spain and Ireland. Okay, that's not the same. Yeah,
1313
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:09.239
I will say.
1314
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:09.480
Yeah.
1315
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:11.519
I did find a different quote from Bradpid from twenty
1316
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:15.320
eleven where he said the production was six months in
1317
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:18.679
the fucking dark because almost it was entirely night shoots
1318
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.320
filmed mostly in London during winter, And I was like, yeah,
1319
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.400
I would under that makes much more sense the other one,
1320
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.920
which is like they made his hanging upside down sometimes
1321
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.079
it's suck Like this sounds pretty bad where it's like
1322
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:33.280
six months in the dark. You're in London and it's
1323
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:37.639
winter and need need ice. Stress again, you're in London.
1324
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.280
That's your anti British sentiment coming up again.
1325
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.599
And apparently a rough cut of it was shown to
1326
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.360
test audiences who said there was too much blood in
1327
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:53.400
violence in a vampire film. But apparently they cut out
1328
01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:56.880
like twenty minutes of the film, which interesting too much
1329
01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.519
blood and violence. That's how that's how you get movies like, uh,
1330
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:03.760
what's the uh kind of rom com zombie movie Warm Bodies?
1331
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.920
That's that movie? Is a zombie rules just like, yeah,
1332
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.360
zombies and if you get bitten by your you're turning
1333
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:11.000
to a zombie. But if you the brains of a
1334
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:12.760
living guy, maybe you'll turn to human again.
1335
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.920
Because I forgot anything about the movie. There was just like,
1336
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:19.360
but what if a zombie was like, I don't know,
1337
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.199
kind of hot, Like are you serious?
1338
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:25.679
Also you saying like cutting out the sex and blood
1339
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.320
and in a vampire movie, I will I will say this.
1340
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.519
My mom watched the show True Blood, but she would
1341
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:34.599
fast forward to his sex and bio seats.
1342
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:38.480
Did you watch it at the time or like rendigo,
1343
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:39.039
watch it.
1344
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:43.079
At the time. I don't know if she's like yeah,
1345
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:44.679
but it would she like fast forward through it's like, oh,
1346
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.440
I don't like that, and it's like pretty sure, that's
1347
01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:49.039
like the main hook in the show. For most people.
1348
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:51.440
It's like saying I love zombie movies, but I have
1349
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:54.360
to cut away when they start eating people. It's just like, buddy,
1350
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:57.239
I don't know how what you're doing with Yes, True Blood.
1351
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:58.719
I didn't watch it, but I heard it was just
1352
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.079
like the Joe around the time. We're just like, yeah,
1353
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:02.400
it's a porn with vampires.
1354
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.079
So it's the serious bit of a person saying I
1355
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:08.320
replayed Boy for the for your articles.
1356
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.360
Your your mom finished like seven seasons of True Blood,
1357
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.119
which would take somebody like one season to finish, or
1358
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.840
was just finger on the fast forward button at all times.
1359
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.800
It's like the mad TV sketch of the Sopranos, and.
1360
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.960
It's just like but it's like, isn't there like a
1361
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:31.760
Christian group. I don't know if they do it anymore,
1362
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:34.119
but like in the two thousands they would put out
1363
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:35.880
like their own edits of movies.
1364
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:40.280
I think you're right, it's not pure flicks that did
1365
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:44.039
that right. We were talking about Angel studios beforehand, I
1366
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:48.840
feel like it's give me two seconds, little clean flex.
1367
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.440
That is what it was. It was that an X.
1368
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:55.000
It has to be with the next This is what
1369
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.880
they say wikipedia clean flex you know, so flicks. It's
1370
01:05:58.079 --> 01:05:59.960
one word by the way they make it clean flex
1371
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.400
fl i cks, but then it says brackets or clin
1372
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:07.199
Flix with an X was the latter day Saint company
1373
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:10.199
founded in Utah in two thousand that incidents sold commercially
1374
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.039
released DVDs and vhs tips from which they edited content
1375
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.760
which a company considered inappropriate for children or that viewers
1376
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.880
might otherwise find defensive. Wasn't it where you also? Where
1377
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:20.519
were we also just talking about Angel Studios? Wasn't that
1378
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:24.320
a Utah thing as well? Yeah? Wow, interesting.
1379
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:27.119
There's a documentary about it called Clean Flicks with an
1380
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:29.039
X from two thousand and nine. It's already on my
1381
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:30.559
watch list, it's on your watch list.
1382
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:32.480
There we go. Yeah, we definitely talked about this at
1383
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:33.840
some point in our group. Ch hat like a couple
1384
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:34.320
of years ago.
1385
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:37.239
I think the Mormons like originate from Utah. Okay, this
1386
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:40.320
is all starting to make sense. Okay, okay, okay, it's
1387
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:42.840
just so interesting. They're just like, I don't know, yo,
1388
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:45.800
motherfucker's got like hundreds of religious movies that you don't
1389
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:47.679
have to do any of the I'm just I'm just
1390
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.639
thinking of big clean Flix movies that they edited around
1391
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:53.000
the time. It's like, oh, I'd love to watch that,
1392
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:54.559
but they got to edit out this, this, and this.
1393
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.679
It's just like you want to watch hostile, but the
1394
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:01.239
clean Flex version like, Okay, there's a Wikipedia, but oh
1395
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:06.360
this is hot. Yeah, because yeah, the DGA like is
1396
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:08.320
going to sue the living shit out of them because
1397
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.280
they were just selling the movies. But they were you know,
1398
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:16.440
obviously they didn't own all of them. And the suit
1399
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:21.199
filed by DGA was clean Flix of Colorado LLC versus
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01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:26.199
Steven Soderberg, Robert Altman, Malcolm Michael Appted, Taylor Hackford, Curtis
1401
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:31.760
hands Like, Scortsea, Michael Mann, Philip Nois Noise, and Sidney
1402
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:33.920
Like so many people did well.
1403
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:37.400
Also, I'm seeing here external links countersuit filed against Robert
1404
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:42.360
Huntsman and Cleeve Flex of Colorado. A lawsuit was also
1405
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:44.760
filed by bel Gifted because cleve Flix removed the three
1406
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:47.079
most violent scenes it was filmed. The Passionate of the Christ.
1407
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.960
It's just funny like thinking about like yo, super religious organization.
1408
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.760
It's like saying, geez, even the movies that were about
1409
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:54.920
the stuff that we're into, like that's too much.
1410
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:00.519
They discontinued to do that and says, damn, I'll take
1411
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:02.920
some Christian money. I'll fucking edit movies that they want.
1412
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:06.440
But also it is very wild and like the same
1413
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:08.400
type of people that would want this were going in
1414
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:10.920
droves to passion on the Christ, which is like one
1415
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.559
of the most disturbing wide really spils of all time.
1416
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.359
And like yeah, there was just every other day which
1417
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:18.720
just like yeah, more people like passed out and like
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broke a hip and like like fell down and like
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cracked their head on this like while watching this shit.
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It's insane. March two thousand and seven, Clean Flicks announced
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by email to former customers they were relaunching, so they
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stopped in two thousand and six. The next year, they
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said jak. Early in two thousand and seven, Clean Flicks
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had explored by email too and online, pulling up former
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customers the possibility of relaunching based on an unedited movie
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rental business model. As a result, rather than wrint in
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content edit DVDs. Clean Flicks now offered dv releases of
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unedited modern class.
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Commissions, and Netflix was like got out of here.
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So eventually they were just like, yeah, we'd just be
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a worse than Netflix. Wow, well yeah, they just straight
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I'm surprised that, Yeah, that Netflix wasn't just like remember
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how you all you got sued or we were about
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to get sued. We're gonna do that to you also,
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and they're like, we're just trying to make sure that
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people watch Sorority Girls, but it doesn't have any bad things.
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I also want to know, like, I mean, I'm sure
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somebody out there has copies of these movies there. I
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think that were like did undergo the clean flex edit,
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But like I want to know, like was it just
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like it would be like, oh, man, something sex, something
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sexual aid or something violent happened. Does hard cut to
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next scene or is it like, eh, let's let's let's
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do some snazzy ship like a dissol for a montage
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and to like the slow fade out man to like
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cover past it. I think was there someone putting like
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a little bit of a little bit of a little
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bit of a style in there to sort of due
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to clear flix style.
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I see somebody on Redd and posted attempted to spend
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three dollars on a clean fix edit of Amaie and uh,
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it's the original DVD case and everything. It just replaced
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with a fucking DVD. You are from clean flicks. There,
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there's still is. There's there's something called clean version that
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I'm seeing here. There's more modern time you can get.
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You finally get a clean version of Elysium. It's saying
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here that's great and Ghostbusters Really all kids should grow
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up knowing that Bill Murray got head from a ghost
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like get Bill's character. I really want to watch this
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documentary now, though, Holy shit, what do you think Lis said?
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Would buy a clean version? I'm trying to hear anything
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else with a vampire.
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No, I mean, it's I think I think we've said
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everything there is about the movie, although I will say,
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I mean, I do want to just show to some
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other vampire movies that I do I think are quite strong.
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I like I like Tony Scott's The Hunger. I think
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you and I both like Davids Lad's Thirty Days at
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Night with Josh Hart. Yeah, where you'd like punch Us
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through Danny Houston's head at the end of the movie.
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That's really cool. I like Sinners a lot. Of course,
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there's also The Butt be In and but the Right
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Winning movie. I think those are both very good. Only
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Lovers Left Alive by Jim Jarmish, Which, sorry if I
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sound like I'm shamelessly self plugging this.
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Uh.
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I had a very good conversation with our former coast
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Charlie Nash on our friends Jack Draper and Clay Williams
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the show actually three twenty times talk about that movie.
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That was fun. Ever heard of it? Uh? The guy
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from Spud Bob, I haven't seen it.
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I still have not seen it because once again I'm
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just like, I'm not not fronted, does not does not
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do much to me.
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What if he was played by Bill Scarstard.
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What if he was played by who he played in
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the loops On movie?
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Fuck? I can't Jones? Which Jones also a Buzantz yep
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where it's like, yeah, that checks out. He's a guy
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who would want to turn into a vampire. He already
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looks like he is a vampire.
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Imagine he just like is like reading Deadline and they're
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just like announced a new vampire movie. But like alcoholic agent.
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Why the fuck didn't you tell me about this? Dude.
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