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In this episode, we talk about a new AI model
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launched by Open Ai. We also talk about our Maadmi
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parties at Tashimir Lena being appointed as the new CM
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of Delhi post Arvind Kijriwal's resignation. But first we talk
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about the India China border standoff. Hi I am Aharri
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Kananda and you are listening to three things being an
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Express news show over four years ago in June twenty twenty,
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clashes occurred between Indian and Chinese soldiers who had crossed
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into at least four locations along the line of actual
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control in eastern Ladakh a few weeks prior.
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So about four years ago.
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The border standoff between Indian and Chinese troops began in
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later early May.
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That's Indian Express's diplomatic affairs editor Shubiji Troy and which came.
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To a point where there were clashes at Galwan Valley
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on fifteenth of June twenty twenty, in which about twenty
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Indian soldiers were killed, including a colonel rank officer from
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the Indian side on the Chinese side. The Chinese never
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declared their casualty count and they later identified four Chinese
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soldiers you know who had been killed in those bloody clashes.
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Despite several rounds of military and diplomatic talks since those clashes,
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there hadn't been any significant disengagement between the troops, But
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last week, External Affairs Minister s J. Shunker said that
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about seventy five percent of the disengagement problems with China
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have now been sorted out.
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Those negotiations are going on. We made some progress. I
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roughly you can say about seventy five percent of the
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disengagement problems are sorted out. We still have some things
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to do, but there's a bigger issue that you know,
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if both of us have brought forces close up and
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in that sense there's the level of militarization of the
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border has increased. How does one deal with it? I
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think we have to deal with it. But in the
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main one after the clash, it has affected actually the
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entirety of the relationship because you can't have, you know,
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violence on the border and then say the rest of
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the relationship is insulated from it, so trade has got effect.
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A day after Jes Shunker made this statement, the Chinese
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Foreign Ministry said that the troops have disengaged at four
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places in eastern Ladak, including the Galvan Valley. According to
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the Ministry, this happened after the National Security Advisor Ajit
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the While and Chinese Foreign Minister Won Yi held talks
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on the sidelines of a meeting of Briggs n Essays
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at Saint Petersburg in Russia, where they discussed the progress
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made in recent consultations on shows.
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To understand what.
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Happened in this meeting and what we can expect as
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far as Indo China relations are concerned, we have Indian
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Express's diplomatic affairs editor Shubiji Troy joining us. Shubiji talk
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to us about the Indo China relations in the recent past.
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Well, you know, India channel relationship is going through a
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rough patch for the last about four years now, and
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it all began when in April May of twenty twenty,
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Chinese troops were mobilized along the India China border and
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India had to sort of also mirror similar strength of
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troops on its side of the border. And there have
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been a border standoff since then, with disengagement in some parts,
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but still there has been a standoff going on with
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almost fifty thousand to sixty thousand troops on either side
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of the border. And that has impacted the bilateral relations
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between the two countries. And this twy four eighty eight
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kilometers of India China border, it is disputed and it
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is not demarketed. So you know, this particular standoff has
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created a strain in the ties, has created tension between
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the two countries and therefore there has been a sort
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of a setback in the relationship in the last four years.
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And if we talk about the last four years, India
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and China haven't been on the best of terms. Can
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you tell us why that has been the case.
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Well, you know, because the two sides having mobilized troops. First,
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the Chinese side mobilized troops and India had to respond
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and because of that, the bilateral relations has been impacted.
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Because India has repeatedly said since the late eighties when
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the India China rapprushmo happened with the visit of then
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Primeister A. Jiv Gandhi to China, since then, there have
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been series of agreements in the early nineties which sort
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of both countries said that they would abide by them
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and that essentially meant that there would be peace and
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tranquility along the border, and that meant that if there
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is peace and tranquility along the border, then both sides
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can do trade to political relationship. They could be visits
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and essentially there would be a normal ties between two neighbors.
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But with the Chinese mobilizing these fifty thousand to sixty
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thousand troops and at some point almost crossing over on
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the Indian side, so India has sort of said that,
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you know, this essentially means the breaching or violating of
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the agreements that were signed in the early nineties withween
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the two countries to respect the LC the line of
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actual control, as well as to ensure peace and traculties.
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So that's how the India channel relations have been frozen.
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And recently Indian National Security Advisor Ajitaval met with Chinese
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Foreign Minister Wogi. Can you tell us what all did
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they discuss during their meeting.
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a series of meetings between the Indian side and the
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Chinese side, and it included the meeting between Indian Heath
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Minister st. Schunker with his Chinese counterpart Wanghi. Wangi is
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also in a unique position where he also the equivalent
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of National Secretary advisor in the Chinese system in the
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Chinese hierarchy. So he also met with Ajito Wal, our
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National security advisor. They essentially talked about how India said
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that they should redouble their efforts and with urgency they
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should resolve this particular issue, the remaining issue. And mind you,
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just hours before this meeting the lf IS, Jashanker had
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said that they had completed about seventy five percent of
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the disengagement problems have been sorted out, but the bigger
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issue of increasing militarization of the border was still there.
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It should be noted here that what he's saying that
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twenty five percent of the issue has been sorted out
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along the border, he essentially is, you know, referring to
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the last disengagement that happened almost about two years ago
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in September twenty twenty two, was the last set of
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disengagement that took place in some of the points. Since then,
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there has been no progress. And the two points where
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two areas where the two sides are still in a
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space off situation on a closed contact situation are in
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dem Chalk and in Depthsa, both in Stella Dak in India.
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And so this time when the two sides, the nsays
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met they essentially said that they should read double therefore
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and act with urgency to disengage from the remaining points right.
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But at the same time, there have also been talks
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for narrowing down differences between the nations. Can you tell
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us a little bit about that?
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And it should be noted that you know, end of August,
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there was a meeting between the diplomatic negotiators from both
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sides where they gave a very positive sense of the situation,
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essentially giving an indication that they were moving towards narrowing
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down their differences, and that center glimmer of fact that
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you know, there could be disengagement on the cards. They
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tried to agree to the fact that they should redouble
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their efforts and act with urgency, and that sort of
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gave a glimmer of hope between the two sides and
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where it was interpreted as the fact that there could
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be a possibility of disengagement on the border in near future.
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Now, Shubiji, post this meeting between the Indian National Security
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Advisor and the Chinese Foreign Minister, how do we see
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things changing.
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That's the sort of signaling that has come out. Although
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I mean there is sort of so far. The Indian
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side has said that until the border situation is stabilized,
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is normalized, there cannot be normalcy in the ballot relationship.
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But there is now hope that there might be some
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disengagement plan on the offering, and that is because there
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is a Bricks Leaders Summit which is expected next month.
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So that's where things stand today.
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Right, and Shubiji is talking about the upcoming Bricks Leaders
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summit where pmod is supposed to meet Chinese President Shi Jinping.
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So what are our expectations from this summit?
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President She and the Indian Prime Ministermodi are expected to
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attend the Bricks Leaders meeting that is going to take
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place in Russia in a place called Kazan, and it
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is expected to take place between twenty second October to
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twenty fourth October. And now again there is hope. I mean,
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we have seen these meetings happen in the past also,
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but now I think we are seeing some hope that
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there might be some possibility of disengagement if something happens
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by that time of the meetingum in the two leaders.
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So that's where the expectation is at.
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Next we talk about open ais latest AI model. On
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twelfth September, open ai released its latest AI model, which
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is part of its very secretive Project Strawberry. The new
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open ai zero one is the first in a planned
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series of reasoning models that are designed to solve more
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complex tasks and problems in science, coding, and mathematics. To
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learn more about this new AI model, the Project Strawberry
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and how it will impact the world of artificial intelligence,
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we have Indian expresses Bijin. Joe's joining us.
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Bijin.
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Can you begin by talking about the projects Strawberry, What
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is it and what all is expected out of it?
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You know, if you look at a news reports in
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the last few months, there has been several speculations on what.
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Does open ai building so secretively.
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So Project Strawberry is a secretive project that open.
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Ai has been building towards.
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You know, there were speculation that it would be similar to,
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you know, something next iteration of GPT four and this
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could potentially be GPT five. But now with the latest launch,
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it seems this is completely different. But when it comes
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to Projects Strawberry, this is an AI that they were
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training with some exceptional.
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Capabilities in terms of reasoning. So that is what it is.
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And then project Strawbery AI models are those models that
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they train to have, you know, the ability to think
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for themselves, essentially search the web autonomously plan ahead, something
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that existing AI models are not capable of doing.
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Right, and now coming to open ai zero one, what
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is it exactly and how does it work?
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So open I open model.
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The other day open ai introduced this new series, which
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is they have officially confirmed that this is itself projects
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for abuty So now they have released two models, which
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is a zero one preview and zero one Mini. While
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zero one preview is like a slightly expensive site and
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zero one Mini is the affordable model.
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You know, these models.
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Are different in the sense that they are exceptionally well
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at complex reasoning tasks.
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And the difference that you see here is not minor.
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It is quite a big lead in technical terms because
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now they both come with one twenty eight thousand context.
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Window, the window which shows you know how.
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Much text input it can take at a time. Similarly,
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they have given based on open ai. This is International
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Mathematics OLYMPIAD qualifying exams. So for that while GPT four
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only got thirteen percent of the problems, right, this zero
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one version scored eighty percent, which is very high. You know,
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So this is very difficult for me to explain it
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in a layman's version, but that is the kind of
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extent that they have trained this model. It can nearly
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solve any problem that you put across it.
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Right and bijon, When we talk about artificial intelligence, a
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question that definitely comes up is a concern regarding safety.
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So is this new model safe for people and organizations
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to use?
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See?
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With this model, OpenAI has done the same thing as it.
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Does every time it releases a new model.
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It has given out the kind of red teaming or
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the training that went into you know, the kind of
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safety security experts that it consulted while training this model.
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So as of now, if you trust open ai, the.
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Model is relatively safe and it has gone extensive testing
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and safeguards to ensure that there is some ethical use.
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And they are also claimed that they have used.
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Safety protocols that are actually built into it to prevent
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you know, harmful outputs or any form of misuse that
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anybody can do to these models.
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And what benefits do we see coming out of this
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new model of AI.
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So the particularly fascinating thing that caught my mind when
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it was reading their official announcement was like one of
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these iterative models in this new series. You know, it
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is as good as a PhD student when it comes
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to reasoning.
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So now it's.
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Very difficult to quantify because you know, we really don't
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know what kind of metrics they used, and if they
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are claiming it, I'm sure that model must have been
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exceptionally well.
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At you know, logical reasoning. So that is something for
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a first time user.
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This might come across as you know, it could be
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an eminent threat to researchers, but no, it's not actually
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a threat because you know, this model with such kind
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of reasoning capabilities can actually help accelerate breakthroughs because even today,
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various researchers, they use different kinds.
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Of tools models availab to them.
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models can actually speed up the whole innovation game. When
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we talk about benefits, I think see, like as we
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mentioned earlier, it has advanced capability when it comes to reasoning,
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you know, and this could be actually you know, a
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boon for areas like healthcare, education and content creation, you know,
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healthcare in the sense like chatbods will be able to
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reason far more better when it comes to advanced diagnostics,
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but that is actually a very later stage of development.
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So as of no, I think this is the most
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powerful model with the capability of logical reasoning. No other
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model has this kind of reasoning faculty at this point
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of time.
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And Vijen, I have to ask you the million dollar
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question which comes up in almost every person's mind whenever
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there is a discussion over artificial intelligence. How do we
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see this new AI model impacting jobs?
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See, I have been of this philosophy since the last
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two years I've been working on AI. That you know,
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AI will not completely away jobs. There would be jobs
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that still require human intervention. But with this new model,
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what I feel is, you know now that we have
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a very powerful model which can solve complex problems.
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like you.
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Know, jobs that require data analysis, coding, mathematical modeling, software development.
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an intellectual task and if you actually automate it, it
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would automatically decrease a lot of potential areas where human
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involvement is required.
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Right and bidgin can the regular public use open eye
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zero one?
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See zero point one and zero point mini are not
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meant for lay persons especially, you know, if you look at.
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The broad Way, people use chat in India.
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it to create texts, you know, great images, you know,
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maybe write a draft for them, you know, plan their itinery.
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All those things. You know.
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And in the end we talk about Delhi's new Chief Minister. Yesterday,
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former Deli Chief Minister Ervin Kjriwal resigned, paving the way
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for Atishi to become the third woman c M of
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the National Capital c M designate. Aishi handed over the
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letter of support from the Amami Party emilis to the
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l G taking claim to head the government.
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Three d.
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K first time politician.
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Hours after she was picked by Ervinkal as his successor,
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Delhi Minister ah said that she will run the government
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under the guidance of the Amadi Party chief and thanked
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him for trusting her with the biggest responsibility. While addressing
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a press conference, Atihi said that there is only one
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c M of Delhi and that is Arvind k Juwal
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and that our sole objective is to make him the
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same again.
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A Partika.
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Or is accusing the BJP of hatching up conspiracy and
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keeping Kal in jail for six months in the alleged
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Delhi excise policy scamp.
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She said the Supreme Court gave him bail and a
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tight slap to the Center by calling its investigation agency
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a caged parrot. She said, quote what Ervin Kal did
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after coming out of jail was not done anywhere in
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the world or been done by any leader in the world.
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He said he would sit on the seat of the
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c M only after the people of Deli certify his
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honesty end quote.
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Hat Partine which led those are said Arvinshan Joe Apeniar
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S Commissioner, Kyknocknai Political Parti S s a Im Bartja jujik.
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Apne Agencies E D K C b ik J Mahine.
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Our Supreme Court known as Zamanat Our Supreme Court save
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because Zamanath Navy Supreme Court, Camerima On Key Agencies, kama
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In Key Agencies, Camera skar Ki Agencies or Arvind Kari Galatia.
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MLA who holds the portfolio of Education, Finance, Law, Tourism
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and several other departments also ask people not to garlander
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and celebrate the occasion because it was not a happy one,
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as Ervin Kjruwal would step down as the Deli CM.
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Later in the day, Arvin Kjruwal met with the Lieutenant
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Governor and submitted his resignation. After the proposal for the
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new CM is sent to LG. Saksena, he will forward
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it to President Roberty Murmu, following which Atishi will assume
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charge as the Deli CM. The oath taking ceremony will
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take place in three to four days, said a government official.
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In this episode, we talk about a new AI model
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launched by Open Ai. We also talk about our Maadmi
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parties at Tashimir Lena being appointed as the new CM
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of Delhi post Arvind Kijriwal's resignation. But first we talk
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about the India China border standoff. Hi I am Aharri
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Kananda and you are listening to three things being an
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Express news show over four years ago in June twenty twenty,
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clashes occurred between Indian and Chinese soldiers who had crossed
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into at least four locations along the line of actual
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control in eastern Ladakh a few weeks prior.
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So about four years ago.
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The border standoff between Indian and Chinese troops began in
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later early May.
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That's Indian Express's diplomatic affairs editor Shubiji Troy and which came.
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To a point where there were clashes at Galwan Valley
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on fifteenth of June twenty twenty, in which about twenty
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Indian soldiers were killed, including a colonel rank officer from
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the Indian side on the Chinese side. The Chinese never
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declared their casualty count and they later identified four Chinese
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soldiers you know who had been killed in those bloody clashes.
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Despite several rounds of military and diplomatic talks since those clashes,
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there hadn't been any significant disengagement between the troops, But
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last week, External Affairs Minister s J. Shunker said that
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about seventy five percent of the disengagement problems with China
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have now been sorted out.
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Those negotiations are going on. We made some progress. I
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roughly you can say about seventy five percent of the
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disengagement problems are sorted out. We still have some things
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to do, but there's a bigger issue that you know,
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if both of us have brought forces close up and
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in that sense there's the level of militarization of the
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border has increased. How does one deal with it? I
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main one after the clash, it has affected actually the
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entirety of the relationship because you can't have, you know,
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violence on the border and then say the rest of
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Foreign Ministry said that the troops have disengaged at four
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places in eastern Ladak, including the Galvan Valley. According to
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the Ministry, this happened after the National Security Advisor Ajit
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the While and Chinese Foreign Minister Won Yi held talks
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on the sidelines of a meeting of Briggs n Essays
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at Saint Petersburg in Russia, where they discussed the progress
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To understand what.
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Happened in this meeting and what we can expect as
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far as Indo China relations are concerned, we have Indian
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Express's diplomatic affairs editor Shubiji Troy joining us. Shubiji talk
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to us about the Indo China relations in the recent past.
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rough patch for the last about four years now, and
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it all began when in April May of twenty twenty,
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Chinese troops were mobilized along the India China border and
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troops on its side of the border. And there have
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been a border standoff since then, with disengagement in some parts,
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but still there has been a standoff going on with
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almost fifty thousand to sixty thousand troops on either side
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of the border. And that has impacted the bilateral relations
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between the two countries. And this twy four eighty eight
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kilometers of India China border, it is disputed and it
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is not demarketed. So you know, this particular standoff has
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created a strain in the ties, has created tension between
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the two countries and therefore there has been a sort
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of a setback in the relationship in the last four years.
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and China haven't been on the best of terms. Can
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you tell us why that has been the case.
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the Chinese side mobilized troops and India had to respond
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the India China rapprushmo happened with the visit of then
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Primeister A. Jiv Gandhi to China, since then, there have
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been series of agreements in the early nineties which sort
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of both countries said that they would abide by them
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tranquility along the border, and that meant that if there
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is peace and tranquility along the border, then both sides
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can do trade to political relationship. They could be visits
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the Indian side, so India has sort of said that,
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you know, this essentially means the breaching or violating of
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the agreements that were signed in the early nineties withween
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the two countries to respect the LC the line of
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actual control, as well as to ensure peace and traculties.
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Foreign Minister Wogi. Can you tell us what all did
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Chinese side, and it included the meeting between Indian Heath
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Minister st. Schunker with his Chinese counterpart Wanghi. Wangi is
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also in a unique position where he also the equivalent
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of National Secretary advisor in the Chinese system in the
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Chinese hierarchy. So he also met with Ajito Wal, our
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National security advisor. They essentially talked about how India said
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that they should redouble their efforts and with urgency they
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should resolve this particular issue, the remaining issue. And mind you,
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just hours before this meeting the lf IS, Jashanker had
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said that they had completed about seventy five percent of
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the disengagement problems have been sorted out, but the bigger
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issue of increasing militarization of the border was still there.
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twenty five percent of the issue has been sorted out
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along the border, he essentially is, you know, referring to
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the last disengagement that happened almost about two years ago
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in September twenty twenty two, was the last set of
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disengagement that took place in some of the points. Since then,
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there has been no progress. And the two points where
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two areas where the two sides are still in a
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space off situation on a closed contact situation are in
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dem Chalk and in Depthsa, both in Stella Dak in India.
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met they essentially said that they should read double therefore
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and act with urgency to disengage from the remaining points right.
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for narrowing down differences between the nations. Can you tell
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us a little bit about that?
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there was a meeting between the diplomatic negotiators from both
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sides where they gave a very positive sense of the situation,
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essentially giving an indication that they were moving towards narrowing
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down their differences, and that center glimmer of fact that
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you know, there could be disengagement on the cards. They
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tried to agree to the fact that they should redouble
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their efforts and act with urgency, and that sort of
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gave a glimmer of hope between the two sides and
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where it was interpreted as the fact that there could
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be a possibility of disengagement on the border in near future.
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is normalized, there cannot be normalcy in the ballot relationship.
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disengagement plan on the offering, and that is because there
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summit where pmod is supposed to meet Chinese President Shi Jinping.
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President She and the Indian Prime Ministermodi are expected to
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attend the Bricks Leaders meeting that is going to take
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place in Russia in a place called Kazan, and it
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twenty fourth October. And now again there is hope. I mean,
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there might be some possibility of disengagement if something happens
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by that time of the meetingum in the two leaders.
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Next we talk about open ais latest AI model. On
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twelfth September, open ai released its latest AI model, which
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is part of its very secretive Project Strawberry. The new
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open ai zero one is the first in a planned
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series of reasoning models that are designed to solve more
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complex tasks and problems in science, coding, and mathematics. To
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learn more about this new AI model, the Project Strawberry
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and how it will impact the world of artificial intelligence,
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we have Indian expresses Bijin. Joe's joining us.
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Bijin.
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Can you begin by talking about the projects Strawberry, What
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is it and what all is expected out of it?
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You know, if you look at a news reports in
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the last few months, there has been several speculations on what.
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Does open ai building so secretively.
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So Project Strawberry is a secretive project that open.
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Ai has been building towards.
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You know, there were speculation that it would be similar to,
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you know, something next iteration of GPT four and this
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could potentially be GPT five. But now with the latest launch,
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it seems this is completely different. But when it comes
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to Projects Strawberry, this is an AI that they were
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training with some exceptional.
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Capabilities in terms of reasoning. So that is what it is.
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they train to have, you know, the ability to think
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for themselves, essentially search the web autonomously plan ahead, something
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that existing AI models are not capable of doing.
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Right, and now coming to open ai zero one, what
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is it exactly and how does it work?
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So open I open model.
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The other day open ai introduced this new series, which
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is they have officially confirmed that this is itself projects
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for abuty So now they have released two models, which
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is a zero one preview and zero one Mini. While
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zero one preview is like a slightly expensive site and
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zero one Mini is the affordable model.
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You know, these models.
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Are different in the sense that they are exceptionally well
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at complex reasoning tasks.
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And the difference that you see here is not minor.
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It is quite a big lead in technical terms because
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now they both come with one twenty eight thousand context.
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Window, the window which shows you know how.
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Much text input it can take at a time. Similarly,
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they have given based on open ai. This is International
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Mathematics OLYMPIAD qualifying exams. So for that while GPT four
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only got thirteen percent of the problems, right, this zero
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one version scored eighty percent, which is very high. You know,
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So this is very difficult for me to explain it
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in a layman's version, but that is the kind of
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extent that they have trained this model. It can nearly
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solve any problem that you put across it.
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Right and bijon, When we talk about artificial intelligence, a
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question that definitely comes up is a concern regarding safety.
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So is this new model safe for people and organizations
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to use?
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With this model, OpenAI has done the same thing as it.
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It has given out the kind of red teaming or
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the training that went into you know, the kind of
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safety security experts that it consulted while training this model.
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Model is relatively safe and it has gone extensive testing
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and safeguards to ensure that there is some ethical use.
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Safety protocols that are actually built into it to prevent
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you know, harmful outputs or any form of misuse that
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anybody can do to these models.
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new model of AI.
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it was reading their official announcement was like one of
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these iterative models in this new series. You know, it
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is as good as a PhD student when it comes
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to reasoning.
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Very difficult to quantify because you know, we really don't
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know what kind of metrics they used, and if they
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are claiming it, I'm sure that model must have been
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exceptionally well.
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At you know, logical reasoning. So that is something for
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a first time user.
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This might come across as you know, it could be
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an eminent threat to researchers, but no, it's not actually
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a threat because you know, this model with such kind
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of reasoning capabilities can actually help accelerate breakthroughs because even today,
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various researchers, they use different kinds.
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Of tools models availab to them.
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models can actually speed up the whole innovation game. When
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we talk about benefits, I think see, like as we
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mentioned earlier, it has advanced capability when it comes to reasoning,
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you know, and this could be actually you know, a
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boon for areas like healthcare, education and content creation, you know,
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healthcare in the sense like chatbods will be able to
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reason far more better when it comes to advanced diagnostics,
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but that is actually a very later stage of development.
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So as of no, I think this is the most
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powerful model with the capability of logical reasoning. No other
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model has this kind of reasoning faculty at this point
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of time.
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And Vijen, I have to ask you the million dollar
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question which comes up in almost every person's mind whenever
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there is a discussion over artificial intelligence. How do we
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see this new AI model impacting jobs?
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See, I have been of this philosophy since the last
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two years I've been working on AI. That you know,
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AI will not completely away jobs. There would be jobs
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that still require human intervention. But with this new model,
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what I feel is, you know now that we have
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a very powerful model which can solve complex problems.
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like you.
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Know, jobs that require data analysis, coding, mathematical modeling, software development.
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an extent.
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Also, you know, if you look at it, reasoning is
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an intellectual task and if you actually automate it, it
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would automatically decrease a lot of potential areas where human
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involvement is required.
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I feel could be a matter of concern going forward.
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Right and bidgin can the regular public use open eye
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zero one?
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See zero point one and zero point mini are not
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meant for lay persons especially, you know, if you look at.
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The broad Way, people use chat in India.
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it to create texts, you know, great images, you know,
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maybe write a draft for them, you know, plan their itinery.
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All those things. You know.
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So for all those stars, they can still pretty much
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use TAPT.
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And in the end we talk about Delhi's new Chief Minister. Yesterday,
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former Deli Chief Minister Ervin Kjriwal resigned, paving the way
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for Atishi to become the third woman c M of
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the National Capital c M designate. Aishi handed over the
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letter of support from the Amami Party emilis to the
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l G taking claim to head the government.
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Three d.
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Or is.
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K first time politician.
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Hours after she was picked by Ervinkal as his successor,
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Delhi Minister ah said that she will run the government
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under the guidance of the Amadi Party chief and thanked
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him for trusting her with the biggest responsibility. While addressing
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a press conference, Atihi said that there is only one
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c M of Delhi and that is Arvind k Juwal
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and that our sole objective is to make him the
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same again.
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A Partika.
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Or is accusing the BJP of hatching up conspiracy and
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keeping Kal in jail for six months in the alleged
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Delhi excise policy scamp.
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She said the Supreme Court gave him bail and a
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tight slap to the Center by calling its investigation agency
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a caged parrot. She said, quote what Ervin Kal did
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after coming out of jail was not done anywhere in
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the world or been done by any leader in the world.
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He said he would sit on the seat of the
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c M only after the people of Deli certify his
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honesty end quote.
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Hat Partine which led those are said Arvinshan Joe Apeniar
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S Commissioner, Kyknocknai Political Parti S s a Im Bartja jujik.
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Apne Agencies E D K C b ik J Mahine.
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Our Supreme Court known as Zamanat Our Supreme Court save
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because Zamanath Navy Supreme Court, Camerima On Key Agencies, kama
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In Key Agencies, Camera skar Ki Agencies or Arvind Kari Galatia.
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MLA who holds the portfolio of Education, Finance, Law, Tourism
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and several other departments also ask people not to garlander
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and celebrate the occasion because it was not a happy one,
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as Ervin Kjruwal would step down as the Deli CM.
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Later in the day, Arvin Kjruwal met with the Lieutenant
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Governor and submitted his resignation. After the proposal for the
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new CM is sent to LG. Saksena, he will forward
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it to President Roberty Murmu, following which Atishi will assume
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charge as the Deli CM. The oath taking ceremony will
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take place in three to four days, said a government official.
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