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Office Space (1999)

Twenty years of movies, twenty episodes, one final destination: a soul-crushing office park somewhere in generic suburban America. Office Space is Nic's pick to close out 2 Dads 2 Decades, and honestly, there's no better way to go out: a movie that gave an entire generation its workplace vocabulary before most of them had set foot in a workplace.

Both dads know this one cold. For Nic, it was the put-it-on-before-you-go-out movie, the kind of thing you'd seen so many times the early parts were automatic. Steve caught it the same way a lot of people did: Comedy Central, late night, dorm room, falling asleep to the DVD menu looping.

The conversation that follows is the kind you have when everyone already knows the movie and nobody needs the plot explained. Steve flags that Office Space might be the first film with an all-white cast and a completely sincere hip-hop soundtrack -- not ironic, not parodic, just what the characters actually listened to. They spend serious time on Gary Cole, who both dads agree is the secret weapon of the whole thing (Nic floats a case for listing him above David Herman in the opening credits and has a point). They argue, affectionately, about whether "no-talent ass clown" is a Mike Judge original or pre-existing slang, and land on Judge. Steve admits he has legitimately come around on Michael Bolton the musician, cites "Time, Love and Tenderness" as a genuine banger, and is not apologizing for it.

There's a lengthy detour about going to a county fair hypnotist with his daughter that Nic will never fully live down. John C. McGinley pulling taffy with his hands while Bob Slydell beams with excitement over a guy who does nothing. Lawrence and his bottle opener. The printer dying to "Still" in a field. The Jump to Conclusions Mat getting the contempt it deserves.

The federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison line? Yeah, they clock it. Doesn't hold up.

What does hold up is Peter figuring out he'd rather swing a shovel outdoors than update bank software. Sometimes the answer really is that simple.

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I had a rough day. Tell me about it, man.
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Ugh. Ooh, I gotta wake my ass up at 6:00
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AM every day this week. Drag up to Las Galindas.
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Yeah, I'm doing the drywall up there at the new McDonald's. Let me ask you
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something. When you come in on Monday and you're not feeling real well,
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does anyone ever say to you, sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays?
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No. No,
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man. Shit, no, man. I believe
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you'd get your ass kicked saying something like that, man.
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have me come in on Saturday. I just know it. Well, you can get out
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of that easily. Yeah? How?
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Well, when a boss wants you to work on Saturday, he generally
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asks you at the end of the day, right? Yeah? So all
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you gotta do is avoid 'em. That's all right, I've got it. Only last few
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hours on Friday. Duck out early, turn off your answering
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machine. You should be home free, man.
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That's a really good idea. Fuckin' A,
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man. Lawrence, what would you
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do if you had $1 million? I'll tell you what I'd do,
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man. 2 chicks at the same time,
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man.
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That's it? You had a million dollars,
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you'd do 2 chicks at the same time? Damn straight. Always wanted
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to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire, I could hook
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that up too, 'cause chicks dig dudes with money. Well, not all chicks.
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Well, the type of chicks that double up on a dude like me do.
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Good point. Well, what about you now? What would you do?
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Besides 2 chicks at the same time? Well, yeah.
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Nothing. Nothing, huh? I would
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relax. I would sit on my ass all day.
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I would do nothing. Well, you don't need $1 million to do
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nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin. He's broke, don't do shit.
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It's 2 Dads 1 Movie.
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It's the podcast where 2 middle-aged dads sit around and shoot the shit
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about the movies of the '80s and '90s. Here are your hosts,
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Steve Paulo and Nic Briana.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 2 Dads, 1 Movie. I'm Steve.
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And I'm Nic. And today we are wrapping up our march through the decades that
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we've been calling 2 Dads, 2 Decades, which we started 20 weeks ago
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with Airplane in 1980. It is now 1999.
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And we are— we watched Office Space from Mike Judge. And Nic,
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kick it off first, man. This is a movie you brought to us. So why
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did you bring us Office Space? What did— What's your history with it? Yeah,
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I think, you know, like many people of our generation, this one was very,
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uh, it was very important to us.
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Uh, it gave us a lot of terminology. Uh, and then, you know,
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specifically for me and, and a lot of my friends and us, we were like,
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we weren't in the business world yet, right, when we saw this and started to
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love it. So our first jobs, the second there's any mention of like a memo
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or fucking whatever, we're like, oh shit. Um, so it
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was just very quotable, uh, very rewatchable. This again was the put it on
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before you go out movie, right? The early parts of this are ultra familiar
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to me, and then there's certain parts towards the end that aren't. But,
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uh, just a fun movie, and I think a great way to wrap up the
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2 Dads 2 Decades in the true spirit of like what we're trying to go
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for with this show. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, and I think this is one
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that, um, definitely benefited from Comedy Central. I feel like this was on
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Comedy Central like constantly for a few years, and so it
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was just almost impossible, you know, if you were coming home— I remember being in
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college, you come home drunk from the bars or whatever, you throw on the TV
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before you go to bed, and if you happen to throw on Comedy Central,
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you had like a a 1 in 4 chance that this is the movie that
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was playing some random night at, you know, 1 AM or something. Also, this was
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a classic, you pass out and just the DVD menu screen is just
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looping and looping and looping as you're falling asleep. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, for myself,
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like very similar to you, I caught it in college, didn't see it in the
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theater, but would've seen it pretty soon after, you know, DVD. I was, you know,
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the guy kind of similar to last week's where Baseball, you know, I would've seen
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it originally 'cause somebody said, oh, the guys who made South Park did this.
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Similar with this would've been, oh, the guy who made Beavis and Butt-Head did this
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movie. Right. All right, well, we'll check it out. And I think that that's,
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you know, You know, we'll talk about the facts in a minute, but I think
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that's one of the reasons the movie didn't do that well in the theaters is
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because they tried to market it as like from the guy from with Beavis and
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Butt-Head kind of thing. And it was like, that's so got nothing to do with
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like the humor's not the same. Like Mike Judge has massive range as a creator
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and this just isn't in the Beavis and Butt-Head King of the Hill kind of
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register. This is a very different kind of vibe. But yeah,
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like a lot of very fun movie, one that yeah, quote all the time.
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So much stuff that comes out of this movie is just now like in my
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vernacular. PC load letter, what the fuck does that mean? Like, I mean, all this
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stuff. And then, you know, and then I spent, I have spent over 20 years
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working in software. Luckily for me, never in an office environment that was this
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stodgy. When I worked in offices, I've been remote for the last like
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7 years, but like when I worked in offices, it was always at startups.
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I spent a little time at Google, but even Google acts like a startup.
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Like nobody at Google is wearing like ties, you know what I mean? Well,
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the way startups operate almost seems like a reaction to this type of culture,
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right? In a lot of ways, the ping pong tables and the, Free coffee and
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like, you know, like the come as you are. You still have to come in
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on Saturday and Sunday, but hey, you're, you're wearing shorts. Hey, these days 996
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has become a real popular thing in tech, which is ridiculous. Just working 9 AM
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to 9 PM, 6 days a week. Luckily not any company I work at,
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but that has become a thing, which is gross. Anyway, let's jump into the
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facts on the movie Office Space. Uh, it came out on February 19th,
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1999, right after Valentine's Day. Would have been a fun date movie, uh, with an
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R rating and a running time of a brisk 89 minutes. Maybe within
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the 4 fastest movies I think we've watched. I think Army of Darkness was like
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84. Spinal Tap's real short. Army of Darkness is real short. And this one at
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89. You don't see a lot of sub-90-minute features. So directed
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and written for the screen by Mike Judge, and of course adapted from Judge's animated
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shorts called Milton, which is the character Stephen Root plays. Is this—
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if— would this be an adapted screenplay even though he wrote— it's
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adapted off what he wrote originally? Just like Cameron Crowe getting
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nominated for adapted screenplay for Fast Times at Ridgemont High. High based off of the
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book Fast Times at Ridgemont High by Cameron Crowe. It's still written for screen,
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is the credit. So yeah, is what it is. It's the way the WGA rules
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work. Uh, the movie stars Ron Livingston, Jennifer Aniston, and David Herman. Uh,
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Ron, of course, we saw in Swingers. Uh, Jennifer Aniston, of course, the most famous
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person in the cast at this point. Um, and David Herman, who plays the Michael
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Bolton character. Uh, scores: Rotten Tomatoes, 82%, pretty healthy,
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dig it. IMDb, 7.6, very highly respected. Strong.
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Very strong, especially for a comedy. Gene Siskel was getting sick by the
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time this movie came out, so he did not give a thumbs up or down
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on this movie. Instead, we get just one thumbs up from Roger Ebert
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for Office Space. It's kind of sad when it just becomes one.
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Yeah, it's, it's— I think anything in the second
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half of '98 or throughout '99, we're not going to get a Siskel rating
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on. So yeah, no awards to speak of. A couple of critics nominate— Critics
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Award nominations, nothing really interesting on a $10 million budget, which like Again,
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last week we watched Basketball for $25 million and what they were able to do
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there. This movie for $10 is like in many ways more impressive.
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But again, I think a big part of that is not having to build sets,
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right? They clearly— yeah, right location for the shoots. Um, anyway, it pulled in
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just $12.8 million at the box office, 1.28 times what it cost,
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uh, which is definitely a disappointment. There's no— there's no way to spin that that
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isn't disappointing. Sure. Um, but you know, I wish we had home video numbers because
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I know this is like gone fucking crazy with merchandising and all that.
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It's a movie that, that definitely benefited from DVD sales and rentals and then also
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So again, from just being one of those kind of like staples that
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basic cable would, you know, play the edited version of just on repeat,
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basically. So yeah, that's how it became. I mean, it has become an absolute cult
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classic for sure. This is one of those movies we've seen several already in our
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run, but this is one of those movies that like box office flop, but got
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such a second life in home video, which really isn't a thing anymore.
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Now it's like there's streaming. So if you're gonna come out in the theaters and
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you're gonna, but if you're gonna flop, the streamers don't even tend to wanna pick
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you up. So it's not like a standard thing like it used to be where
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even the flops got put out on DVD or VHS. Or whatever. Uh, nowadays it's
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a little funkier. I think you've either got to be a streaming movie or you've
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got to be a theatrical movie that does well enough that the streamers give a
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shit about, about buying the rights to you. Yeah. Um, so yeah, but, uh,
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but yeah, Office Space definitely benefited from that, uh, that system that used to exist
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for sure. All right, Nic, kick us off, man. How does Office Space start?
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All right, Office Space. We've got, we've got a cold open and we've got,
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uh, an introduction to our main characters stuck in traffic on their
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way to work. Great scene. So we've got Peter Gibbons, played by Ron Livingston.
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Yeah. And he's, you know, stuck there in stop-and-go traffic. Obviously every
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frustrating thing you could imagine. He's seeing how slow he's going. He looks
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out his window and sees an old man in a walker passing him. You know,
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the lane next to him, of course, is moving just fine. And then when he
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can finally get into the other lane, that lane stops and his previous lane goes.
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So, so that's happening to Peter. I will say this movie 100% continues
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to affect the way I drive. Yeah. Because, because of Office Space,
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I don't try to like, if I'm in shitty traffic, I stay in the lane
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I'm in. Mm-hmm. And I just, I'm like, I think to myself, it'll all work
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out. It'll all even out eventually. Yeah. Everybody's trying to go the same place.
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And it's literally— Can't chase that dragon. It's literally because of this movie that I
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won't cut over to the other lane. I swear to God. Yeah. So,
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so he's, Peter's in the car and then we've got Michael Bolton who's played by
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David Herman. Yep. And he's singing loudly along with this rap song,
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you know, just really getting down and he's coming up to like an intersection or
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whatever. And there's a guy outside of his window who's like selling flowers.
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Right, yeah. And it's like the most like benign figure you could imagine,
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but it's a guy who happens to be Black. Yep. So Michael Bolton like turns
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his music way down and locks his door and everything, is like, starts singing
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it, you know, quietly. And then the second that guy leaves, he bumps it
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back up. I got the feeling up inside me. If I can't talk to my
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mama, then I'll talk to my diary. And he's singing along with it.
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So, um, very funny. And I, I'm one of those guys. I'm not a,
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I'm not a lock my door and turn it down guy, but I'm a blast
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my ass off when I'm driving by myself. I will say, how many movies do
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we have before Office Space with a, let's call it a predominantly
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white crowd, uh, cast? No major character who's, who's Black, although we
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do have Sameer, who's, uh, uh, I think he's supposed to be like Pakistani or,
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or, you know, Saudi or something like that, right? Saudi, because they, yeah. Oh,
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he makes a comment at Riyadh. Yeah. So, so— He might just be a comedian
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in 2026. There you go. But outside of him and a very
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brief appearance late by Orlando Jones, like, this is an all-white cast.
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That has an all hip-hop soundtrack. I feel like that's
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got to be until— off, you know, before Office Space, I don't know that that
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existed anywhere. I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, unless it was being done ironic,
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because the thing about the hip-hop in this movie, it's believable that this
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is what the characters listen to, because this is what I listen to, this is
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what we listen to, our friends, you know. So it's not done in a parody
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way. So maybe Malibu's Most Wanted or something. So I was thinking about something like
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that, but even that kind of shit didn't start getting made till the mid-2000s.
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So yeah, I think you're right, and that's a great point. Yeah, it's very interesting.
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So and then Samir in his car, we get Samir briefly, and he's just like
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furious and punching his wheel and going crazy, right? Samir Nainanaja,
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not that hard to say actually. Not at all. Not hard to say at all.
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But everybody seems to deal with it. Maybe it's written really funny.
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Maybe it's not written phonetically at all. But yeah, we also briefly see Milton,
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the Stephen Root character, the bad skin, the enormous eyeglasses. But he's not
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driving to work; he's sitting at a bus stop. waiting for, for his bus to
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come. When Peter arrives at Initech, he parks,
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has to walk kind of a ways to get to the office, and he comes
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inside and he reaches for the doorknob, and you can tell he knows this is
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gonna happen before it does, but he gets such a big static shock that you
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can see it, like it jumps like a lightning bolt off of the handle onto
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his hand. And I hate that. Like, the number of times, like, a carpeted office,
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you know, when you're wearing, you know, if it's not rubber-soled shoes, if you've got
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like leather-soled shoes, Yeah. You know, those like the dress shoes, you're just going to
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get shocked everywhere. It's the worst feeling. Have you ever been to one of those
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science museums where they have the thing where you can experience different levels of shock?
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I hate that shit so much. Why does that exist? I hate that stuff.
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I remember— I don't remember his name, but it was like Henze or Herman.
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It was our physics teacher senior year of high school. Herrich. Herrich. Thank you.
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I knew it was an H. He had this crank machine and you would have—
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you would go student to student and hold the 2 ends of the connectors
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or the wires. And then the student in front of you would turn the crank
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to feel it. And the idea was like, they're gonna do it to you next,
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so be gentle. Oh, man. And every once in a while, some of the guys
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in class would just crank that thing super hard. I mean, it was never enough
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to, like, hurt you. Sure. But it hurt, you know what I mean? Like,
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everyone's going Bill Murray in Ghostbusters, just maximizing your shock there. Oh,
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my God. Uh, but relatable. So, so far, like, we've established all this relatable
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stuff that has nothing to do with the actual job. No, no. It just has
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to do with fucking getting there in the first place, right? Just getting to work.
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Uh, so, you know, Peter's— he's shocked by the door, and he goes down,
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he sits at his desk, and he starts typing. You know, he's got a shitty
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little cubicle, you know, although, although honestly, I would kill for a cubicle in the
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20-teens because like back when I was in offices, then it's all open floor
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plan. Everybody's sneezing on everyone else. Like, yeah, cubicle walls were a luxury.
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Yeah. Like by the time I was working in offices and I've been lucky,
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like in my whole career, my first job out of college, I've been at small
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firms the whole time and I've had my own office. I had to share
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with another person for a couple of years. But other than that, I've had my
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own like full-ass office. So I never lived that cubicle life. Yeah. And most of
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the companies I've worked at, the CEO doesn't have an office. Yeah. They just
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sit out in the bullpen with everybody else. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
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I had zero ping pong tables though. Yeah, there you go, right? I had a
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lot of ramen available to me. So Peter's approached by his boss,
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Bill Lumbergh, played by Gary Cole. The wonderful Gary Cole. So fucking funny.
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Love Gary Cole. When we were watching this, my wife and I were talking about
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Gary Cole. His performance in The Brady Bunch movie as
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Mike Brady is one of the funniest things ever. The degree of difficulty to be
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so perfect And then so funny on top of that impression.
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He's just so great. I wish he was listed instead of David Herman, to be
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honest with you. That's fair. I probably could have put Gary Cole on. Oh,
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it's not on you. It's whoever does the fact sheet. Yeah, right. Whoever that is.
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I'll have to, I'll have to flog that intern later.
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Um, no, have you ever seen— do you ever watch Entourage? Uh, I saw—
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yeah, I saw like the first season. No, see, by the end of the movie,
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or by the end of the series, Cole is like, uh, also an agent working
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with Ari, with the Jeremy Piven character, and he The two of them together are
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an absolute riot. Like Gary Cole as a as a fucking agent in LA is
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so funny, and he's like season five six or I think is that ballpark.
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But that guy has so much range. I love him. He's really great. So he
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approaches Peter, and like of course very quotable. Hey Peter, what's happening?
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So I heard you had a. So the issue is like Peter didn't
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put the proper cover page on his memo on his TPS report,
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right? Did you get the memo? And there's all this stuff. So he's approached by
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Bill Lumbergh, Gary Cole, his boss. He's approached by another guy.
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So everyone he encounters is mentioning, oh, I heard you're not putting cover sheets.
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Gets a phone call from another person to remind him, like, call me. And he's
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just like, yeah, sorry, I forgot. I'll do it. And they won't accept that.
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They're like, yeah, because we're trying to do— and it's such a grating,
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shitty thing. And again, I've only worked at small companies. I haven't had to deal
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with too much of that. But this boiled my blood, dude. And his,
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his, his neighbor in the neighboring cube is Milton, who we saw earlier.
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Who's playing the radio, which is loud enough that it would drive
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you insane, right? It's not a reasonable volume at all. Milton keeps saying he
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was told that I could play in a reasonable volume. Kind of,
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kind of Anchorman syndrome with this movie a bit. Like, I heard too
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many Milton impressions that weren't very good that tainted it a
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bit. Is that a fucking message? Is that a message, Nick? No, yours was perfect.
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I thought you were just playing a recording from the film. No, you know
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what I mean. You're a voice pro here.
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But yeah, so Milton— so we've kind of set like Peter's situation. He's just
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like miserable. And he can hear Mina in the cubicle over here. Corporate accounts
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payable, Mina speaking. Yes. Just a moment. And she repeats that over and over again,
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which like— here's the thing. Heidi's look is so funny. It's so perfect. So much
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makeup, the bright red hair. I did not have that situation, but I do remember
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one of the early startups I worked in. It was kind of— it had cubicle
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walls still because this was like 2005 maybe. So it was like early. But it
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was this big warehouse, converted warehouse in Emeryville. So it was like the acoustics were
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god-awful, right? Yeah. Reverberated off everything else. And I happened to
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have— I was working in customer support, so I was like on the phones with
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like my headset on. And I had these asshole sales guys like 2 cubicles
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over who would do conference calls over speaker. So they
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were doing speakerphone calls while I'm trying to like take like a basically a pissed-off
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customer like complaining about something and trying to help them out, right? It's my first
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job in tech. And, and yeah, it was like just absolute nightmare to have these
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guys just talking super loud and like 2 cubicles over. And we couldn't say anything
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to them because they were the sales guys. So the second you try to like
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change the way they do anything, yeah, all they got to go is, yeah,
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but I'm like, you know, bringing in like a $50,000 deal. So sorry, you know,
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and it's like, and the company's not gonna side with the stupid-ass customer service kid.
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So yeah, that was a lot of fun. Yeah, I mean, it is so tough
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managing. Just, you need a— everyone needs a certain environment to be able
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to work and to be able to focus, and it's so disrespected in these kind
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of places. Oh my God, it's so bad. Yeah, thank God for working from home.
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Samir, one of the coworkers who we saw in the car earlier, and he's
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standing there at the printer, which is one of our recurring characters. Yeah,
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basically a character in the movie. Kind of like our fax machine and swingers and
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different inanimate recurring characters. And we get a, why does it say
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paper jam when there is no paper jam? And he's hitting it and doing all
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this stuff, right? I love it, and we've all experienced it. And again,
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I'm a very tech-frustrated person, so I'm gonna flip out on
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a machine before I troubleshoot. Well, that's fair. I have the
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the the right way to troubleshoot most of these machines is the three Rs,
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which is retry, reboot, and reinstall. Those are your ten that tends
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to solve a lot of your problems. But there is the other was rage.
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Exactly. To say the other R potentially is rage out, and that's that's you know
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if that's the fourth R, then that's you know just maybe just don't make it
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your first stop. Maybe that's all on your troubleshooting journey. Yeah. So there's a mail
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being delivered by this woman, and so she can't pronounce Samir's last name. She's like
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"Nagana," and he says his name is Naina Naja. Which is like a mouthful,
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don't get me wrong, but it also doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to
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understand unless it's written really funny. So I don't know how they spelled his name.
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I should've probably tried to look that up, but I didn't. And it's funny 'cause
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you're assuming it's the same person handing out paychecks all the time. So they're doing
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this every 2 weeks to them. Right. Well, it's not even paychecks. I think they're
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delivering a memo 'cause I think it's the memo Tom talks about later about the
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consultants. But then she turns to Michael and is like, Michael Bolton?
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Oh, and it's like, and then people keep asking me if he's related to the
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guy. Like, no. Like, how many people who you're related to have your exact name?
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Zero. A grand total of zero. Unless you're talking about like a grandparent that
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you're named after. Yeah. Not somebody within a generation of your age.
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Like, there are no other Steve Paulos in my family. There are other Paulos.
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Yeah. Right? There's no other Steve Paulos. It's so stupid. Like, I don't know.
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Like, it's— It's a version of people being like, oh, you went to UCLA?
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Do you know— yeah. Do you know my cousin? It's like, yeah, I graduated
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in 2003. Oh, my cousin was there in 2006. Awesome.
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Nope. Missed him. Like, you know? Michael and Sameer share
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a cubicle. Yes. Right? And Michael and Sameer and Peter stops by. He's like,
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hey, like, I— my day is already fucking ruined. Do you want
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to go get some coffee next door? And they're kind of bantering back and forth,
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and Michael's talking about like how much he hates the Michael Bolton thing. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah. For any— and he introduces— this is the first time I heard
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the phrase, that no-talent ass clown. So good. Which is still in the
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vernacular everywhere. And here's the thing, we were talking in the Clerks episode, you mentioned
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Kevin Smith using the snowball term and explaining it. Yeah, like that definitely
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existed pre that. Yeah, like, like American Pie and talking about a MILF, right?
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Like that existed for the movie. But no talent ass clown. I think we can
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give that to Mike Judge. I think that is a coined phrase because I did
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not see that before. And it's like specific enough. Yes. That I feel like it
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really should be. That's a Judgeism. You know, I love those, those insults where it's
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just like you're stuck on what word to throw it. So you just think of
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something. No ass clown. Like, just think of something that,
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that sounds hurtful. It's like an insult ad-lib. Just Mad Lib. Put it, put in
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whatever you want. So this is when— so the woman who was passing out the
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handles was like, you know, sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays,
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which is not cool. But But yeah, so they go over to
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Tchotchkes, which is, you know, a Chili's,
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TGI Friday's style shit on the walls. Makes me think of,
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if you've seen the movie, I'm sure you have, Super Troopers. They talk about,
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hey, Farva, what's that restaurant you like with the mozzarella sticks and all the
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shit on the walls? Shenanigans? We going to Shenanigans? It's that kind of thing.
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So this is their, one of the couple that they make fun of. Uncle Moe's
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Family Feedback. Yes, exactly, the whole deal, exactly. So they go over there and they
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just have a couple of coffees. Uh, I think Brian is the waiter that helps
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them who's like too cheery and too chipper and like whatever. The menu items
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he offers them are, oh yeah, could I interest you in some pizza shooters,
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shrimp poppers, or extreme fajitas? It's just like they nailed like that
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type of restaurant. I mean, Mike Judge is so astute at the way he
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can point out these different things in society, and like he just crumbled that entire
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type of business model between— between this and Idiocracy.
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The amount of his Observational Silicon Valley.
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The amount of his observational understanding of the world around him is like really impressive.
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Judge is I think a very underrated creator and auteur.
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For sure. But yeah, so so this is also then when we see Joanna.
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This is Jennifer Aniston's character. Peter notices her from across the restaurant, and it's like,
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oh, there she is. And you know, Samir's like, you know, Peter, if you're so
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obsessed with this girl, why don't you go ask her out? You know, and he's
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like, dude, I'd be some asshole customer. And he's right. Like you can't just like
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walk up to a waitress and be like. Hi, you want to go out with
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me? Like you're just some jerk who's like in the restaurant. I get that.
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Like I definitely get that. And so then they say, oh, you should come by
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by playing play poker, right? Isn't they're gonna play poker? Yeah, they were gonna play
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poker on Friday. You should come over and play poker. Oh no, and this is
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Peter talking about his girlfriend. And convinced me to go to an occupational hypnotherapist,
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which is like I have family members who are occupational therapists.
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Like and that job is to prepare people coming off of like surgeries or other
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things to get back into their lives and be able to like do major functions.
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You know that you need to do. Like literally like they remind they teach people
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how to like tie their shoes again. Yeah, different like that. So like that.
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But an occupational hypnotherapist to me is hilariously funny
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because it's like already hypnotherapy is like kind of like silly.
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So then you're going to try to take the most like the version of therapy
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that's the most like bare bones functional, the occupational therapies, and we're going to make
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this like put these together. To me, it's like such a funny juxtaposition. And it's
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like occupational hypnotherapist, the phrase, it's like they're using it with different interpretations.
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So it's almost like a hypnotherapist that is about your occupation,
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right? They do.
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They talk to what's his name? They come back. Tom Smikowski. Yes. Yeah. They come
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back and they talk to Tom Sinkowski. Smikowski. Whatever. However you pronounce his name.
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But yeah, on their way back from Chotchkes, he catches them kind of in the
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parking lot, and he's like a paranoid coworker who's a good, good stereo or
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good fucking archetype here. Yes, exactly. And he's this is the actor
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also who played one of the the the the prison guard guys.
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The fugitive. Exactly. The fugitive. He's the one that survived and claimed that you know
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oh the guy got away or whatever. Whatever, you know. Uh, but yeah, so— or
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no, he— no, that's right, he said that the doctor died, right? But yeah,
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so he's that guy and he's just freaking out because he's like, have you seen
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this memo? Like, they're bringing in consultants. Like, this happened at Intertrode last year and
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they laid off everybody and all this stuff. And they're like, Tom, you've been,
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you know, saying you're gonna lose your job every day for 30 years. Like,
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you're still here, you know. But yeah, he's freaking out. So they're— now they're back
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in Samir and Michael's sort of cubicle and they're all chatting. And Tom's like,
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you know, there are people that don't have to worry about this. There are people
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that like make a million What you got to do is invent something really great
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like the Pet Rock. Yeah. And he, and he explains to
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them how he came up with a great idea like that once before. And he
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said it was called the Jump to Conclusions Mat. It's a mat you would lay
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on the floor with a bunch of conclusions on it that you would jump to.
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And like, and he's, and he's looking at them for like reassurance and support.
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Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael's like, that's the stupidest fucking idea I've ever seen or
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ever heard in my life. It's just a terrible idea. Yeah,
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this is a good conversation. Kind of all like, what would you do with $1
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million? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and Samir, he's like the very sensible one.
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Oh yeah. Well, I'd invest half in mutual funds and all this stuff. And Peter's
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like, I would do nothing. Like, I would do absolutely nothing. Well, you say this
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way, at this point he says, I never had an answer. Oh, that's because they're
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kind of framing it like, oh, when your guidance counselor in high school said,
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what would you do for $1 million? That would tell you what you should do.
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So if you would fix up old cars, you should be a mechanic. And Michael
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points out to him, that's fucking stupid because, you know, nobody would be a janitor
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because nobody would clean up shit if they had $1 million. They wouldn't choose to
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do that. But that's when the printer distracts him. And it's like, and he goes,
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PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean? Which is like, I love that.
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The PC load letter is so good. Inside their cubicle, uh, and, and also
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in his apartment, Michael Bolton has a Navy SEALs poster, which I feel like that's
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got to be a clerk. I, I— here's the thing though, not the movie.
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I know, I know. But it's so funny to me, it's almost like a recruitment
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poster for the Navy SEALs, like in his, uh, in his cubicle.
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And then in his apartment home, it's like a huge flag. And he seems like
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the least would-be-into-the-Navy-SEALs guy. Well, except that he
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definitely thinks he's cool, and so he'd be into generically cool stuff. And I guess
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the guy who loved the military in '99 would be aesthetically different than the
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guy who loves the military now, you know? Pre-post-9/11. Like, operator-looking,
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grunt-style fucking black rifle coffee shirt guy or whatever.
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It's definitely evolved over the last 25 years or 27 years, yeah. But you are
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right that he does, and he sees himself as kind of like a badass,
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kind of like a tough guy or whatever. For sure. Yeah, so let's
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see. Is Peter back home now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, and he has a neighbor
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Lawrence played by Diedrich Bader. Love Diedrich Bader. Underutilized. I feel like he's really funny
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in this, and he's not in enough stuff between this character and
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Rex Quandt, like the Rex character from Napoleon Dynamite. Like I adore
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Diedrich Bader. Those two roles alone like work for me, but he's done a
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bunch of other great stuff too. Yeah, no, I mean that Napoleon Dynamite thing is
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so funny though, and and he. I like the
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relationship where you can just yell through the wall to somebody.
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And when you see, like, everyone's apartment, there's, like,
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barely any decoration. It's very depressing. And when I watched
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this at the time, 'cause I was still, like, in college roommate situation, so I
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was like, oh, dude, it would be so sick to just have my own blank
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apartment. I could put my milk crates anywhere. And watching it
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now, it's like, oh, God, that fucking sucks. But very similarly, the apartments in Swingers.
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We see Sue's apartment and we see Mike's apartment, and they're both very sparsely decorated
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and sort of sparsely apportioned or appointed rather. And so,
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yeah, but yeah, so Lawrence yells through the thing, hey, Peter, man, check out Channel
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9, it's Breast Exam. So Lawrence comes over because Peter's
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like, dude, don't yell through the wall, just come over and hang out. So he
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changes to like this, you know, it's an instructional video on like women to check
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themselves for lumps, but he's like, oh yeah, this is hot, you know, kind of
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thing. So they're chatting for a while and, and Peter brings up the same question
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they talked about at work, which is like, if you, you know, what would you
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do if you had a million dollars kind of thing. And so Lawrence, deadpan,
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straight face, looks at him and goes, you know what I'd do if I had
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a million dollars, man? 2 chicks at the same time. And it's like,
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yeah, all right, like a fair answer. I love it. And he's like,
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uh, he's like, well, chicks dig dudes with money. And Peter's like, well, not all
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chicks. He's like, the type of chicks that double up on a dude like me.
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One, uh, one Lawrence thing I, I love and we would always
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repeat, and it's just such a throwaway line, when Peter hands him his beer and
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he goes to like open it for him and Lawrence is like, that's okay,
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I got it, pulls his own opener out, his own shirt key, is so like
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that's such a guy. Like, that character would never let somebody open his beer,
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or he'd do the shit where he like opens it with his wedding ring or
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like a fucking lighter. Side of the counter. Into the counter. Yeah,
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respect to those guys. I've never been one of those. I don't want to damage
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my table. This reminds me of a, of a quick story. Like, so when I
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was in college, I was back home for the summer, and my friend Greg,
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his older sister was getting, uh, married. And we, my friend Sean and I,
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were hanging out in Walnut Creek, and we ran into them at, uh, The old
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Pyramid Ale House on like Locust, I think. Yeah, yeah. And so they were
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there doing like they'd done the rehearsal and they were doing the like party after
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the rehearsal dinner. So it's like, oh yeah, come hang out with us. So we
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hung out with them for a while because we, you know, I grew up with
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these people for the most part, but they were all a few years older than
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us. And so we all end up going back to somebody's parents' house in Alamo,
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right? Like whatever these are, you know, or mid-twenties. I think I was like 20,
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21. And, and we're back there and they're looking around
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for somebody's looking around for like a church key for bottle opener and looks over
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to me and goes, you're still in college, right? I go, yeah. He goes,
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So you've got a bottle opener on your keychain, don't you? And I'm like,
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yeah. And I give him my keys to the bottle, because sure enough, I had
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a church key on my key ring. So yeah, I just thought that was funny.
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But yeah, so he's got his own. And then the other line that Lawrence says
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that I've just absolutely found ways to sneak into conversation over
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the years is, yeah, I gotta take my ass up to Las Colinas every day
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this week. Just like when you're just tired of the things you have to do.
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Yeah. And he talks to Lawrence a little bit
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about his work, because Lawrence works at construction, you know? Yeah. And Peter's like,
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Do people at your work say things like, you have a case of the Mondays?
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He's like, oh, God, no. I believe you'd get your ass kicked for
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saying something like that. Yeah, that's very funny. But Lawrence gives him a
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good idea. He's like, if your boss is gonna ask you to work the weekend,
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he's probably gonna ask you late on Friday. So you just avoid him, you know,
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duck out a little early, turn off your answering machine, and don't worry about it
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kind of thing. So Peter, you know, tries to do that. So the next day
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at work, it's like Friday now, and we get a brief introduction to Bob Slidell,
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played by one of our absolute favorites, It's, uh, John C. McGinley. And,
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uh, you know, Lumbergh is introducing him like, Bob's gonna hang out and help us
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out, you know, with some efficiency and like whatever. But this is clearly, yeah,
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the consultants that Tom was upset about or whatever, right? This is— he's here
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interviewing everyone for their own job. Exactly. And so then, uh,
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they're trying, you know, basically, uh, Peter's now near the end of the day and
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he wants to avoid Lumbergh so they can get out and like not get asked
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to come in on Saturday. So he starts shutting down his computer, but there's all
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these like files that have to be saved or whatever before they can close.
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Yes. And this thing that says rebuilding index or whatever just keeps going all the
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way full over and over and over again to the point that he's like freaked
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out. So he thinks he's in the clear and he turns and sure enough,
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Lumbergh's right there. Hey Peter, what's happening? And he's gotta not only
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ask him to come in on Saturday but on Sunday too. And he says it's
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because we let— we lost some people this week and we're sort of playing a
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little catch-up. It's like, oh, so you fired people? Yeah. And now there's too goddamn
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much work, right? Exactly. And he doesn't ask him, he just says, I'm gonna need
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you to go ahead. Oh. Yeah, on both days. And he asked him— he tells
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him both days. Yeah, both, both Saturday and Sunday. Oh, terrible. So now Peter is
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at the occupational hypnotherapist, uh, with his girlfriend Anne. And I don't know who the
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other people are there. It doesn't matter. There's 2 other random people there. I guess
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they're Anne's friends. It doesn't really make sense why they would be there for Peter's
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session. But yeah, this therapist, I recognize the guy. I don't know what he's— he's
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been in a ton of stuff. Yeah, I can't remember his name, but yeah,
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such a funny look. Yes, most ridiculous toupee ever,
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right? He's got this crazy hairpiece on. And he's asking Peter about like,
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you know, what's going on? And Peter's just like, well, every day
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you see me, that's the worst day of my life. And the therapist's like,
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well, what about today? Is today the worst day of your life? And Peter's like,
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yeah. And he's like, that's messed up. So 2 things. One, this actor,
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the thing I most know him from besides this, he played Friar Tuck in Robin
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Hood: Prince of Thieves, the Kevin Costner, Morgan Freeman version. He's Friar Tuck in
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that. But no hairpiece famous. No. Yes. For not in the front for that one.
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But also the line about, you know, every day you see me,
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that's worse. Like, There's Something About Mary did almost the same thing when Chris Elliott
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says to Ben Stiller, every day is better than the next. So it's like,
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it's like a more subtle version of the same joke. But yeah, so basically he's
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like, okay, well, I'm gonna put you into hypnosis. You'll be totally relaxed until after
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I'm done snapping my— you know, I'll count from 3 down to 1 and you'll
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be totally relaxed and you'll remain that way until I snap my fingers, is what
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he says. Yep. So he does the whole countdown, but as he starts counting down,
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he's like, like sweating and like finding it hard to breathe and like squeezing his
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left fist, you know, kind of left hand. And sure enough, as he gets to
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1 and he says 1, which is the final thing to put Peter into the
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hypnosis, the doctor keels over having a heart attack and dies. And Peter is just
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sitting there totally blissful, unaware, doesn't care, chilling out. That's Peter
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is good. But what he's asking for, like before we get too far, you realize
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what he's asking for is basically the plot of the television show Severance. Yeah.
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Because he asked for, can you just like make it so I'm not aware that
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I'm even at work during the day? He's asking for Severance. So I don't know
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if like— I, I haven't seen Severance. Oh dude, you've got to see Severance.
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But I love the concept of it, and I fucking wish
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I could have this done so much. My life would be good. It would be
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wonderful. Watch Severance and you'll think differently. Have you, have you
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ever had someone try to hypnotize you? Have you ever like sat— I have not.
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I've never even— because I don't— here's the thing, I don't believe that it's possible,
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so I don't think I'm susceptible in the way I think I I would— yeah,
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I don't think it would work at all on me because I don't want it
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to, basically. I went— my daughter wanted to do it a few years ago,
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and they had the hypnotist at the county fair. Okay. And they have a stage,
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you can get up there, and they'll sit like 10 people in a row and
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do all this stuff. And then they start, you know, getting you to do things
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once you're hypnotized. But he'll dismiss people if he decides it's like not working on
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them, right? So my daughter really wanted to do it, and I'm like, fuck it,
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dude, I'll go up there with her. I'm gonna ham it up. I'm going along
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with everything the guy says. All right. So I go along and I'm falling asleep
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and I'm doing all the shit and everything. And I'm making a fool of my—
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like, doing stuff I would never do in front of all these strangers at the
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fair. And then at the end, I'm like, that didn't work.
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And it's like, wait, you did all this shit? Yeah, it worked exactly.
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Absolutely worked. That's exactly what it did. It zonked you out so you
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didn't feel stupid about doing this stuff, and then you did this stuff.
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So yeah, I'm on the fence. We'll see if the guy's back there next year.
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I was gonna say, I, I would do— I would do it, but I feel
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like it would be— I would just get dismissed. So it's sort of, you know,
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yeah, you gotta, you gotta commit to the bit, I guess. Uh, which then,
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then what's the point? Then you haven't actually been hypnotized, you've just decided to go
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along with it. Just to see what he says. I mean, if he was able
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to zonk me out so I wouldn't, uh, know I was at work, then it
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would have been, uh, worth it. But so Peter's, he's in like a permanent chilled-out
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state, right? And he's home and he's fucking sleeping. He's supposed to work on
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Saturday and he's sleeping in. So it shows the clock, you know, his answering machine's
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going off and it's Lumbergh. Yeah, hi, this is Bill Lumbergh.
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It's just— And when he finally does wake up,
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it's like 3 o'clock. He's got like 17 messages on his machine and it's almost
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all Lumbergh and he's skipping. But then Anne, his girlfriend, calls and it's like,
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Peter, what's going on? Like, why aren't you at work? Like, what happened? Like,
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what happened last night? All this stuff. And he goes, I didn't feel like going.
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What are you talking about? And she's like getting super pissed. He just hangs up
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on her. Yeah, she immediately calls back and is like, nobody hangs up on me,
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we're through. Oh, and by the way, I've been cheating on you. And when she
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yells cheating on you, The fucking answering machine vibrates. Physically moves.
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Yeah, really funny. I love that moment. Yeah, basically that's done. So Anne is no
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longer in the picture. And Peter had said to a couple people— he'd said it
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to Michael, he'd said it to Lawrence— sometimes I get the feeling that Anne's cheating
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on me. And in both cases they were like, yeah man, I know what you're
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talking about. It's like, what the fuck does that mean? Like, yeah, but turns out
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they were all correct. That's like a go-to name for a bad girlfriend. And shout
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out to all the real-life Annes out there. There are many lovely ones. But Arrested
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Development, you know. Oh yeah, Michael, uh, George Michael's Girlfriend.
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So Peter, he doesn't go into work. Nope. And he just goes
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into Tchotchkes, and he goes to find Joanna. That's right. Very cool.
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And he goes in to kind of like say, "Hey, do you want to?
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You want to meet me for lunch? I want to take you to lunch." Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. And he's like, "What am I supposed to eat here? Eat here." He's
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like, "I'll tell you what. I'm gonna get a table next door if you want
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to join me. No big deal. And if not, that's cool too." Like just so
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laid back. Super breezy, man. And the way that he's dressed now, you know,
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like unbuttoned shirt. Yeah. Jeans. Chill guy.
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And then as he's leaving, she's like, uh, by next door, do you mean Chili's
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or Flingers? Yeah, Flingers. So of course I gotta use the fictional one, that way
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they can make it look however they want. Um, at the same time, we're seeing
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some scenes from inside Initech. We see Tom talking to the 2 Bobs, Bob Parsons
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and Bob Slidell. Uh, and you know, they're basically asking him, so what are you
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doing? So it sounds like you take the specs from the customers and take them
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to the software people. He goes, yeah. So why can't the customers go straight to
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the software people? Like, oh, well, Because, you know, software engineers aren't good at talking
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to people. Okay, so you physically take them? Well, they're faxed, or my secretary
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does that. Okay, so then you physically take them to the software people? No.
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And Bob, the great line goes, what is it that you say you do here?
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You know, it's very funny. Yeah. And, and,
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uh, Tom just melting down during this is really good. I mean, this is
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a, a great collection of character actors in Like the
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main roles in this movie are not the best actors. Right. The main three guys.
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Yeah, they're fine. Ron Livingston's fine. I still wonder why
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Ron Livingston between this and swingers and Saving Private Ryan. Like I don't know why
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he wasn't a bigger star. Yeah, I don't get it either. But these other people
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that they plug in here are so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bob's just fantastic.
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And then the Bobs are talking to Michael Bolton, right? Yes. And the way that
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John C. McGinley is absolutely tickled, like he can't contain himself,
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right? He's just like. Michael Bolton. Bolton. Any relation to the
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pop singer? I love the way he says that. Any relation to the pop singer?
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No, it's just a coincidence because I love that guy.
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It's so good. I don't know for my money there's anything better than what he
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does when a man loves a woman. Like, so, uh, what's your favorite song?
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And he's like, uh, I guess I sort of like them all. And then again,
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I celebrate his entire catalog. And that's another thing we would say. I celebrate
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his entire catalog. 100%. Yes, that is in the vernacular. This is the only way
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I've— the only place I've heard it. So, uh, now I will say, by the
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way, Michael Bolton, I have come around on a bit since this movie came out.
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When this movie came out, I was also of the mind that he was a
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no-talent-ass clown and like I hated whatever. I have since come around. There are a
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handful of Michael Bolton songs and none of them are When a Man Loves a
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Woman as a cover anyway. But like Time, Love and Tenderness is a banger.
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It is an absolute banger. If you like vocal pop music
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at all, that song kills. Like there is absolutely 3 or 4 Michael
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Bolton songs worth going back and going, oh, Like, his range is ridiculous.
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Like, they're good jazzy pop songs. You just gotta be in the mood for that
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shit. His voice is crazy unique too. Uh, his collaborations with The Lonely Island,
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also very funny. Oh, very funny. Yes, very funny. I think that's what turned me
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around on him, when I realized that he's one of those guys willing to kind
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of make fun of himself. And he did the movie with the Pirates of the
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Caribbean song with Lonely Island. It was so funny. And I was like, well,
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if he's got that good a sense of humor, I wonder if like he's really
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kind of this, you know, whatever. So I went back and listened to his earlier
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stuff and I was like, okay, there's a couple songs here that are like Much
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in the same way that like How You Remind Me is Nickelback, but it's still
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a great song. It's the only one Nickelback has, in my opinion, but it is
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still a great song. Like there are a handful of good songs. Not represent the
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opinions of the two dads. One movie. How You Remind Me is a good song,
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man. I'm sorry. I will stand by that. The only one Nickelback ever made.
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But yeah, anyway. So we're back at Flingers now,
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right? Yes, right. So so Peter and Joanna are sitting there, and he's looking.
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She's still in her uniform from Chosh. which is a TGI Friday's, very,
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you know, covered in pins and all this stuff, which the manager, you know,
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she explains to him, these are pieces of flair. Yes. He's like, what are all
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these buttons? He reads off one of her buttons, which calls back to a previous
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film that we had, Swingers, where he says, we're not in Kansas anymore, reading her
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button, which I think, once again, direct shout-out to Swingers. And she
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explains to him, well, you know, they make us put this on, you know,
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to make our uniform more fun. And they're kind of both talking about how shitty
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their job is. She's like, well, what do you do? Yeah, he's like, I sit
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in a cubicle and update bank software for the 2000 switch. And he goes through
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like a few sentences trying to explain it to her, and he's just like,
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you know what, never mind, not worth talking about this. I'm not gonna do it.
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I'm not gonna go anymore. Yeah, that's right. I'm not gonna— like, you're gonna quit?
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He's like, no, I'm just not gonna go. Yeah,
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job abandonment, that's a thing. Quiet quitting, I believe they said. That's right, that's right,
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more recently. But he closes by saying, you know what I want to do?
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I want to take you out to dinner. Then I want to go to my
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apartment and watch kung fu. Do you watch kung fu? And she's just like,
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I love kung fu. She's so starstruck about it. He's lucky, lucky guy that
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she happens to be way into kung fu. The ladies were all into karate back
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then.
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So let's see, we're back at the office now. Milton is going
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on about his stapler. He has a red Swingline stapler.
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Staple of like— staple, no pun intended— of every
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fucking office white elephant party of the early 2000s. The red Swingline.
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That, like, Office Space-related swag garbage. I think I have
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a fucking bobblehead of somebody in this office somewhere. It's everywhere.
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Hopefully of Lumbergh. So yeah, the best bobblehead. Great. Um, yeah,
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so Milton's red stapler is kind of a thing, and he's always talking under his
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breath. So Lumbergh comes and takes it from him and walks away, and Milton's like,
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I'm gonna set the building on fire.
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You took my stapler. Yeah. Uh, so Peter's in, he's gonna go
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meet with the Bobs now. Well, no, so Peter comes to the office to get
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his address book because he wants to write down Joanna's number, and Michael sees him
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and reminds him, dude, you're supposed to be Meeting with the consultants, with the Bobs,
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whatever. He goes, "Oh, all right, I'll go in." He's like, "No, no, no,
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dude. You gotta like postpone. Look at you. You can't go in there like that."
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No, no, man. I'm fine. I feel great. And he goes in and he's chatting
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with them. And I like that he pours himself a glass of water first before
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even sitting down. And they're asking him to like explain his day. And he's like,
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"Well, I come in at least 15 minutes late. I use the side entrance so
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Lumber can't see me. Then I pretty much zone out for an hour." And like,
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"Bye." Right away, he jumps in there. Space out.
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Space out. Yeah, I sort of just sit and stare at my screen. Looks like
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I'm working though. I do that again for another hour after lunch. I'd say in
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a given week, I don't do any more than 15 minutes of actual work.
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And there's a great moment here where John C. McGinley, Bob Slidell, goes,
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Peter, would you mind doing us a favor and just expanding on that a little
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bit? And the way he like uses— I can't do it because it's a podcast,
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it's an audio medium. But he's pulling taffy apart. Yeah, he's spreading his fingers.
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We could just elaborate a little bit. And it's just very funny. But he's basically
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like, let me tell you something about about TPS reports. Yeah, so he goes to
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them. It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. Yeah, I work
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my ass off in it, I don't make another dime. Exactly. Like, and he's right.
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And so they say, well, you know, what if you talk— there's like profit sharing?
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Yeah, I don't know, fine. And basically he has, he has won these guys over.
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Like, he has completely won them over. They are super excited. And, and,
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uh, and he says, that was a real pleasure. All the pleasure's all on this
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side of the table, believe me. I hope you guys have a great day.
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I hope you're— I hope your layoffs go really well. Yeah, good luck with all
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your firings. And then as Lumbergh is— as
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Peter leaves, Lumbergh tries to stop him. He's like, Peter, I guess we should talk
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about this weekend. Yeah, he just steps by him and walks right through.
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Um, Joanna is, uh, being kind of talked to by her boss. She's played
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by Mike Judge. That's right. Yep. Uh, Stan. Yeah, he's really funny in small bits.
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Yes. Uh, part like good actor. You notice how little he moves his mouth when
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talking as this character? His lips barely separate as he talks. It's very funny.
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It's like you could tell he has a specific person in mind when he's doing
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this character. Absolutely. Yes. This person, whoever it is. Yeah, and and
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it's showing that working at Chotchkes is just like working at
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Initech with the same kind of bullshit. And he's like, "Well, you know, let me
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talk to you about your flair." She's like, "Well, I have 15 pieces of flair."
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He's like, "Well, 15's the minimum. You know, we just maybe like." She's like,
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"So I should put more?" Yeah. And he's like, "Well, we want you to
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do what you want you to do. But look at Brian. He has 37 pieces
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of flair and a great smile. People can get a cheeseburger anywhere."
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It's bullshit where they want. Yeah, come out and tell you what they need you
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to do. Yep. And it's so irritating and so frustrating. So she's like,
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it's like you— they— if they should just make the policy minimum is 15 and
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we expect you to go higher than that. Yeah. And then just put— let's put
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it— somebody put a 16th piece on and then everybody shut up about it.
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Or have like a button bin when you walk in there. Yeah, fucking load up.
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Yeah, exactly. It's just ridiculous. So we're back with
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the, the Bobs now, I think, are talking to Lumbergh and the other kind of
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boss guy. Yeah. Right? And they're going through the people that they've talked to,
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right? So who's next? Tom, or I don't know if Samir was first.
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No, no, Tom said we definitely lose Tom Sienkowski. He's worthless.
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He's useless. They are useless. Gone. Gone.
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Milton, they say, you know, Milton Wadhams,
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for some reason we find out he was laid off 5 years ago, but through
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some glitch in the payroll system, he still receives a check. So we went ahead
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and Fix the glitch. So Milton has been fired then? No, no,
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hold on there, Professor. We fixed the glitch, so things will work each other
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out again. The most like pussy-ass, no accountability, like bullshit
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corporate consultant kind of move. And the good—the one good joke on on Samir's name
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here is is when Bob the non-Bob Slidel is looking at goes, "We can leave
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Samir." Not gonna work
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here anymore anyway. He was just like, "Okay, that's funny. If you're gonna mispronounce a
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guy's name, at least make it a good." And then Mike Bolton, you know,
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we'll miss him. Like, they're just super pissed about Mike. Oh, because he has to
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be called Mike. Because he has to be called Mike at the end. Yeah,
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exactly. Uh, and then they get to Peter, and they're like, oh, this is— he's
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a straight shooter with upper management written all over him. And Lumbergh is like,
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yeah, I'm not sure I disagree. And John McGinley is getting
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so furious. Like, I love his choice there to just get over
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the top. His face getting red. Like, I— he's
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like, what's in the box? Like, furious, man. He is just shaking. It is
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so fucking funny. And then the other Bob's gonna be like, he's gonna like chill
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him out. Yeah, like he's gonna pop out of his seat. I got this,
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I got this. And, uh, and they, they flip over a, a sheet for,
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for, uh, Lumbergh, like the same kind of, you know, evaluation sheet they have
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everybody else and go, so Bill, tell me, uh, how much time would you say
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you spend each week on these TPS reports? I was like,
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ooh. So then we get, uh, the Damn It Feels
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Good to Be a Gangster montage basically of— so Peter comes back to the
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office to get something, and instead of getting shocked by the handle He uses the
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drill to like take it off the door completely. Yeah, we see little bits of
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like he and Joanna watching kung fu at his place, him and Joanna and Lawrence
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all going fishing. Looks like in the middle of the day. Yeah, he brings the
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fish to the office to like clean it, guts it in his cubicle. Yeah,
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cubicle on top of a bunch of TPS reports. Yeah, exactly. And so it's just
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like kind of thing. And then, and then, you know, he and Joanna like kissing
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at one point. So we're seeing that their relationship's like evolving and moving on.
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And then Peter takes down the wall of That's right, he unscrews the cubicle.
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And just lets it flop on the ground. It's very, very, uh, uh, when Steve
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quit in Singles and his cubicle just fell apart. Oh yeah. Similar kind of thing.
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Um, but yeah, so then he's playing Tetris and eating Cheetos,
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uh, and Bill Lumbergh walks up and goes, why, Peter, what's happening?
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Uh, I think we need to talk about your TPS reports or whatever. And he's
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like, not now, Lumbergh, I'm busy. I gotta meet with the Bobs anyway.
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Yeah, really funny. Uh, damn, it feels good to be a gangster.
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Think is a probably top 3 all-time rap song for people that
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don't otherwise like rap. Okay, like if you find a playlist of somebody who doesn't
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listen to rap, they've got Damn Feels Good to Be a Gangsta, they got fucking
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Diddy by Paper Boi. Okay, they got some Nelly on there, you know, that kind
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of borderline, like nobody who's really into rap. But, but Ghetto
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Boys, Scarface, very good, right? So interesting choices. And I wasn't sure if
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Mike Judge was from Houston or if that was just like the scene that he
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identified with. Yeah, but yeah, it was interesting choice to have a lot of like
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Ghetto Boys and Scarface, and there's some Ice Cube too. Yeah.
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But great montage. And that song, I mean, we listened to that song a million
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times. I chase bitches like Tom chases Jerry. It's a great line.
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It spawned so many crappy social
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media posts. Oh, okay. Where there'd just be a person doing a very normal thing,
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wearing the shittiest sunglasses you've ever seen, and it just says, damn, it feels good
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to be a gangster. So yeah, so Peter goes in to talk to the Bobs,
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and the first thing they say when he walks in is, it looks like you've
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been missing work, missing a little bit of work lately. Peter? Well, I wouldn't say
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I've been missing it, Bob, which is another thing. And they love his shit.
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That's the funniest thing is they just— there's nothing he could say that they do
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not love. Yeah, exactly. So they let him know. This is where the plot kind
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of kicks back in, right? So we've had, we've had the, the opening scenes of
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like, this is Peter's world and like his job sucks, whatever. Then we get the
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hypnosis and this kind of like other, you know, he moves into this other part
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of his, of his like relationship with his job where it's just like he doesn't
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give a shit, whatever. And he meets Joanna. of. But now like the plot kind
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of has to kick back in because we got to have a challenge for him,
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right? Like a character isn't gonna— like, we're not just gonna watch him just hate
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his job for another, you know, 40 minutes. Something's got to happen. So they get—
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they bring him in, they let him know that Michael and Samir are being let
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go. I don't know why they would tell him that, but they do. And that
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they want to put 4 people under him in like a leadership position. So it's
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like a big promotion kind of thing. And he's kind of like, so you're gonna
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fire Samir and Michael and you're gonna give me more money? And they're like,
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Yeah, what do you think? And he's like, okay. So he goes to
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talk to Michael, and this is again, like, Michael, I think, is wrestling
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with the printer again and dealing with that. But he's basically just like— Is that
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where Michael says, do that, do exactly that? Yeah, exactly. Another one
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we would put on the show. But he's basically just like, hey, what are you
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doing tonight? Like, let's, let's go chat, you know? So they go over to Michael's
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apartment, and this is the, the other apartment we see is Michael Bolton's. It's got
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the big Navy SEALs flag over the couch and stuff, and they're getting beers.
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And he's basically like, hey, like, you made this virus you said you could make
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rip off the big company Like, how does it work? And it's basically like it's
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a thing that that did was in Superman three, and it's basically like yeah,
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the round when you have all these bank transactions that result in you know rounding
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decimal places past a penny, they normally like I think
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they normally like round them left you know up and down, and it all evens
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out at the end of the day or whatever it might be. So instead,
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they will always round them down and put those fractions of a penny into an
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account, right? That's the idea behind it. And he's like, well, they check for yeah,
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but with all this stuff we're doing with the two thousand switch, like nobody would
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notice. Like there's just too much shit going on in the tech right now.
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Nobody would notice, and the money would leave. at a slow enough pace. 'Cause they're
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talking about this would net us a couple hundred grand over the course of
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5 years, 10 years, whatever. So it's like, it's a thing where, yeah, they'd have
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money, but it wouldn't be something that would be easy to notice over long enough
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time. And so, you know, he's like, why don't you do it? He's like,
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well, I got a good job. I don't wanna take the risk. What if you
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didn't have a good job? And we get like a smash cut to a bar
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where now they're drinking. And the first thing Michael says is, cock gobblers.
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Cock gobblers. Oh man. You get to keep your job. They're giving me a promotion.
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What? And he's saying that he doesn't have enough like full understanding
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of, of how to do this. They need Samir to help as well. Exactly.
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Whatever credit union software. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Samir is also without a job,
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also getting shitcanned. Yeah. And, uh, and you know, when Peter's trying to explain,
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he's like, look, the worst thing that could ever happen to us is we get
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sent to a white-collar resort prison, you know, for a couple years.
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We should be so lucky. They have conjugal visits in there. I'm a— Michael,
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I'm a free man. I haven't had a conjugal visit in 6 months. And so
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they're like, you know, talking about— and Samir basically finally kind of comes around and
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is like, okay, I'll do it. And then because he says, in these conjugal visits,
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you can have sex with women? Yes, you can. Okay, I'll do it.
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So, and then we get the montage of them. Yes, exactly. So then they have
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to load the virus. They've got like the little 3.5-inch floppy disk and it gets
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passed between them. And then, you know, it's actually Peter that ends up actually putting
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it into a particular computer. It's like, I think the idea is Michael wrote the
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virus, Samir was able to put the right wrapper around it so the software would
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recognize it and use it. And then Peter actually does the delivery. And when he
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gets back to their cubicle, He goes, well, that wasn't hard at all. Like,
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that was really easy. Yeah, it was like a montage that seemed like it was
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gonna be super long. Exactly, and like really crazy. Or like there'd be like a
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risky moment, like a thriller moment. No, none of that. And then this new character
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we haven't seen before, Drew, walks up and basically asks them if they heard what
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happened to Tom. And they're like, no, what happened to Tom? Well, Tom finds out
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he's getting laid off, which apparently he found out from like a letter, which is
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interesting. But he basically decides he doesn't wanna live anymore. So he gets into his
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car, closes his garage door, like windows down, turn the car on, the exhaust,
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right? Well, his wife comes home from work early. Finds him there,
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opens everything up, and he, you know, when he decides— he's looking at her,
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looking at her, he decides he does want to live. Maybe he's okay. But as
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he pulls out of his driveway, he gets just absolutely T-boned by like this speeding
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pickup truck, like a big dually. Yeah. Uh, and he broke like both legs,
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his back, his neck, like all kinds of stuff. And he's been in the hospital
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and he's getting out this weekend, right? And he's looking at a party. He's gonna
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get a big settlement. Yeah, 7 figures. Yeah, exactly. Um, this guy Drew,
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this guy fucking sucks. He's not funny. I, I don't know what at the time
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I thought Thought this guy was funny because was he like a stand-up
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that like had a small career or something? I have seen him in so few
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things. There's a very small part, and I can't even think of what it was
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now. But he's been in so little that I haven't even. But it's just
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not that good. And he's doing this oh face. Oh, maybe this girl's gonna be
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at the party. I'll show him my oh face. Oh oh. Sorry,
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buddy. Doesn't hold up. It's not funny. Yeah. Um. So they're leaving the
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office, right? And so Samir and Michael have been fired. Peter's driving.
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Yeah. Yeah. And they're just like, oh, last day at the office, you know,
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I kind of wish we stole something. And Peter's like, oh, I stole something.
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And they're like, well, yeah, in a way we all did. He's like, nope,
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I stole something else. Yep. And that's when he brings out the printer and
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then into an open field and they just start bashing the hell out of it.
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And we get this back up in your ass with the resurrection. So this great
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song is they're beating the shit out of the printer. We did make a video
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in college of us beating up my friend, my roommate PJ's printer.
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printer. He had a printer and it was like, you know, classic piece
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of shit, but it was the only printer we had. And then we got access
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to a new one and we made a video and we put this song on
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it. The video is on VHS, so if anybody has
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a VHS player, I'll see if I can find it. But it does exist somewhere
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and it was really fun to do. But yeah, so funny to watch them just
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in, you know, they're giving the pesci Billy Bass beatdown to this thing.
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And they got a baseball bat going. And then at one point Michael actually gets
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down to with his fists punching the printer. I'm like, that is not— you're gonna
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rip yourself apart doing that. And they pull him off it, and he like rips
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away from them and comes back and starts beating it up more. So yeah,
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great, great scene and great kind of resolution of that fucking printer thing. Yeah,
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and so then they show them all kind of partying back at Peter's apartment
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for a little bit. And Samir's got moves. He's all of a sudden doing breakdancing,
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b-boy moves. He does, I love Samir. He should have danced more in this movie.
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That was crazy. While Michael and Peter are just sort of like barely bobbing side
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to side like the good white guys. Just doing the white guy wobble. Exactly.
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And so they go and they leave, and Peter's like, oh, you know, you guys
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gotta go, Joanna's coming over later, but don't worry about it.
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You're worrying. Everything's gonna be fine. Don't worry, kind of thing. So the next morning,
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there's all this, you know, stuff all over, the beer bottles and whatever. And so
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Joanna's there just wearing a t-shirt, looking good, frankly, and, uh, sipping coffee.
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And Peter comes out, goes, so what were you guys celebrating last night? He goes,
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oh, I'm not at liberty to say. She just looks at him, no, no,
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I, I really can't say anything. Cut to them in the car and him explaining
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the entire thing to her. It's a whole thing. Because like, she's not about to
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take that. And he's going on and on about like you know, she's like,
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isn't that stealing? He's like, no, it's not stealing. Like, Initech's an evil corporation,
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whatever. Initech's the problem. Chotchkes is the problem. You know, the Nazis
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had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.
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And she rightly looks at him like he's insane.
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Uh, they, uh, they get to Tom's party, and of course Tom is like in
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a wheelchair, full body cast, right? With the halo and everything. Crazy. And he's
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got his attorney there with him, uh, who's at the party, who's You know,
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gonna get his settlement. And there's a scene of Michael and Samir talking to this
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lawyer outside, and it's just the lawyer saying, resort? I don't think
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so. The trick is kick somebody's ass the first day or become somebody's
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bitch, which again, we said that a million times. 100%. Well, that's become
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like— I just accept that that's actual truth about going to prison. Yeah, that's,
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that's literally how it works. I guess so. Yeah, yeah. So then Drew
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comes up to Peter, uh, Joanne is off talking to some people, and Drew is
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like, hey Peter, how's it going? Oh hey, like, isn't that girl from Tchotchkes?
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Who's she here with? And Peter Peter's like, oh, she's with me. And he goes,
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nice, make sure you wear a rubber, dude. He's like,
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uh, why? Oh dude, she gets around. He's like, what do you mean? He's like,
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oh, let me think, like, well, Lumbergh fucked her. And that just starts ringing in
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Peter's ears. Lumbergh fucked her. Lumbergh fucked
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her. Like the whole thing. And he's super freaking out about it. He really is.
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Peter feels like he's gonna go out like Willy Lump Lump.
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Um, yeah, and they're, uh, so on the, on the way
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home, yeah, they're kind of having an argument, Joanne and Peter, where she's not down
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With his scheme. Well, no, no, that's like it really. Yeah, there's that. But but
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yeah, he's he's she's also pissed that he's like. Well, she says something like uh
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uh you know maybe you shouldn't do this or maybe you shouldn't have done that.
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Well, maybe you shouldn't have fucked Lumberg and just like and she's like what are
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we talking about? But then she like goes oh Lumberg right. And so it's like
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she doesn't deny it. She's just like whatever. And he loses his shit.
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Like he's just like Dante. All perks like just freaks the fuck out and she's
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just like let me out. the car. Let me out of the fucking car.
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He just pulls over and lets it— and I love this because it's like,
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you know, he tries to yell after her like, you know, why don't you go
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fuck Lumbergh? But like she slams the door while he's yelling and it really cuts
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the audio in a very funny way where it just like takes all the air
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out of his like insult, you know? It's like— And Peter's having a nightmare and
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it's just Lumbergh with just a bare leg up on his shoulder and
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he has his suspenders on but no shirt and he's still holding his coffee mug
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like, you know, wearing the glasses, making the humping motions like, hey Peter.
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Like, his nightmares are really funny.
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Yep. Um, so Peter goes to check the bank account that
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they had the, the money going in. Well, first Joanna quits. Like, so Joanna's in
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Chotchkes and she gets confronted by her boss again about the flair and is finally
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like, here's me expressing myself, and she flips him off. And I love him trying
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to block her middle finger so no one can see it. It's such a store
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manager, like, weenie ass, like, oh, we gotta be careful, there are children here.
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So she quits, and then yes, Peter goes to like an ATM to check the
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balance. This is, you know, Monday morning, I think, is what we're told. So it's
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like 3 days after the virus was planted. So they should have like $10,
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right? Maybe $100 or something, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like, like if
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you think about like what they were talking about numbers, it's like a couple hundred
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bucks at the absolute most. No, no, over $300,000
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is in the account. So they know they fucked up because if they take $100
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grand a day, that's gonna get noticed. Like, there's no way. So he goes to
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tell— to get Samir and Michael, and they're talking about it in the car,
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and Michael is like, I must have put the decimal point in the wrong place.
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I always Missed some mundane detail.
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Oh, this is not a mundane detail, Michael. Like everybody's losing
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their shit. I love Samir saying, "This is a fuck." You see, say fuck.
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So back at the office now, it's Lumbergh's birthday, right? We got the cake out.
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We're all singing happy birthday. Just perfect lame birthday party.
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Pisses me off, by the way, that in this moment Bill Lumbergh is younger than
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I am now because I still think of him as like older, but he's like
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his 41st birthday. Very upsetting to me. Goddamn. Because, because later on they
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say, oh, the other Lumbergh, the young guy. The young guy. Yeah. 41 is young
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as hell. Um, and it's very funny when they're singing Happy
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Birthday because when they get to the Happy Birthday, dear, it's like
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some people just kind of say Bill, some say Mr. Lumbergh. They don't know what
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to say and everything. Um, so Milton is very concerned. He's like,
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oh, last time there was cake, I did not get a piece. And let me
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get a piece of cake. So he gets one. They're like, hey, Milton, come on,
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keep passing it around. And he obviously doesn't get his cake. Nope. He gets— he's
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the only one who gets no cake because, of course, because everyone Everybody hates Milton.
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And then I think after that, Bill comes down.
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Lumbergh, or Milton rather, has been moved to Storage B in the basement. But he
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comes down there. Something else we would refer to a lot. Yeah, exactly. Down in
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Storage B. He's like, you know, we've got a cockroach problem down here. So if
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you could just get yourself a can of Raid and, you know, just crawl in
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there and get those. It's not really my job. No, thank you. I just still
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want my stapler back. And Milton this whole time is like, I still haven't received
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my paycheck. not saying anything to him except, you're going to talk
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to HR. Yeah, go talk to payroll about it. So these fucking cowards that are
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running the company, right? Yeah. Um, uh,
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so, so Peter then finds out that the Lumbergh that Joanna slept
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with— Basically, Peter and Michael and, and Samir are hanging out, I think, back at
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Peter's house again and talking about what they can do about this. And like,
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well, maybe we can launder money or whatever. And then he's like, I can't believe
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this happened. And like, and then Peter's like, I can't believe Joanna fucked Lumbergh.
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And Michael Yeah, you didn't know about that? He goes, what? Yeah, yeah, like,
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like 2 years ago before he moved to Florida. You talking about Gary or
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Greg? I don't know what he says. Ron, whatever that was. The young guy,
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the in a trode guy? Yeah, what do you think I meant, Bill? Or children
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that have fucking hooves? Like, you know, so he now realizes he got freaked out
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about the wrong guy. Although, to be honest, 2 guys named Lumbergh unrelated to each
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other in the same town, like, that seems unlikely to me. But it's not a
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very common name. But anyway, there's that. Where are we in this movie, by the
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way? We're near, we're at the point where they are— I mean, like, physically,
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Like, geographically. Oh, so, okay, so that's interesting. So I think it's,
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I think it's really supposed to be like it's in Silicon Valley, like it's in
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like Palo Alto, Cupertino, etc. But the license plates all specifically are not state
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license plates. Okay, so we are in any state USA. I know, I was just
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curious if it was like, uh, that all the license plates— no,
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all the license plates on all the cars just have like a US flag with
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no state name on them. So they're deliberately not saying a name. But like,
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if you look at the way the office parks look, the way the freeway looks.
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It looks like it absolutely could be the South Bay, in my opinion. You know,
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some— not so much San Jose, but like Cupertino, Mountain View, you know,
01:00:07.540 --> 01:00:10.160
Palo Alto, that kind of area. Yeah. But yeah, but it's— I think he's very
01:00:10.660 --> 01:00:14.040
deliberately— Judge does not say anything about it. But yeah, so we're in
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Peter's apartment. What to do? They get a knock at the door, right? Well,
01:00:17.540 --> 01:00:19.180
they're trying to figure out how to launder money. Yes. And they're like, they look
01:00:19.680 --> 01:00:22.480
it up in the dictionary. It's like, to launder is to conceal by way of
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routing through an intermediate. It's like, I can't believe what nerds we are. We're looking
01:00:25.820 --> 01:00:27.920
up money laundering in the dictionary. But they're like, we don't know how to do
01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:30.640
this. Like, if we knew a drug dealer, maybe they would know and we could
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ask them for tips on how to launder money. He's like, my cousin's a cokehead.
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.560
Cokehead. Yeah. So ringing the doorbell and it's this— it's the actor
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Orlando Jones and he's, uh, playing a guy selling magazine
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.020
subscriptions door to door. And he's kind of like got this stilted speech and he's
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like waving my voice like, hi, my name is Steve. I come from a rough
01:00:47.500 --> 01:00:49.960
area. I used to be addicted to crack, but now I'm not. And I am
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selling magazine subscriptions. So They're like, oh, come on in. Come on in. Come on
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in. Did you say crack? Yeah. You say crack. They bring him inside and they're
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asking about money laundering and he's just kind of like, I don't know anything about
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any money laundering. And they finally get to the point and he's just like,
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look, man, just goes and dips into his normal voice.
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Right. He's like, I just do this to sell more magazines.
01:01:11.300 --> 01:01:13.800
Yeah. Like I make more money selling magazines than I used to as a software
01:01:14.300 --> 01:01:17.360
engineer. Wait, software engineer? Like where I was at Inotrode. Inotrode. You know, some of
01:01:17.860 --> 01:01:19.050
the same people we know. You're not going to say anything, are you? And he
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goes, well, now that depends. And then as he leaves, Peter's like, what am I
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going to do with 40 subscriptions to Vibe?
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Orlando Jones, also a guy I didn't see a whole lot. This whole
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like Mad TV generation, like hit or miss, you know?
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Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's sort of like, I feel like they're sort of akin
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to some of the Second City TV people from, you know, 15, 20 years prior
01:01:43.390 --> 01:01:45.870
where it's like many of them made out like bandits and really became stars.
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And then several sort of just—they were in things and you'd recognize
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them, but they never really got the name recognition or like really the longevity.
01:01:52.769 --> 01:01:55.270
You know that that some of the the other folks in their group did,
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and this is very similar concept. He's living off that make seven up yours.
01:01:58.950 --> 01:02:01.050
Yeah, that's good shit, dude. That was a funny shirt. Still wish I had one
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of those. So the friends are this leaves, and the friends are like, "Peter fucked
01:02:06.070 --> 01:02:09.330
you. You fucked us." Yeah, so bad. We're we're in trouble. They keep referring,
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you know, to federal pound me in the ass prison, right? Uh, this is a
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.879
rape joke, by the way. We're talking about rape jokes or not rape jokes.
01:02:16.379 --> 01:02:19.339
That is absolutely a rape joke, and it's throughout this movie. Yeah. Um,
01:02:19.839 --> 01:02:22.280
but yeah, so they're— and Peter's just like, you know what, like, I'll try to
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take the blame. But they're fucking done with it. They're super pissed. And so then
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they leave, and he like calls through the, the wall. He goes, Lawrence, you up?
01:02:29.200 --> 01:02:32.780
Yeah. You want to come over? Oh man, I don't want you fucking
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:36.560
up my life too. I love Lawrence. Yeah, and he's
01:02:37.060 --> 01:02:40.790
just picking up all this from over here. Yeah, so Peter decides—
01:02:41.290 --> 01:02:43.509
he writes out a confession, you know, and he puts— he's got like, uh,
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like traveler's checks or cashier's checks, whatever they are, of like the amount of money,
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puts it all in an envelope, decides, I'm gonna go do this. He goes to
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see Joanna. She's working at Flinger's now, so she just went next door to the
01:02:53.569 --> 01:02:57.070
other, you know, fast casual restaurant. But basically he's like telling her, you know,
01:02:57.570 --> 01:02:59.330
hey, I'm gonna— I'm gonna go away for a while because I'm gonna admit to
01:02:59.830 --> 01:03:02.730
this, uh, and, you know, I'm really sorry. I should never have judged you.
01:03:03.230 --> 01:03:05.680
Like, I was not one of the right Lumbergh anyway. Like I'm just an idiot.
01:03:06.060 --> 01:03:09.119
So you know, I hope you you know you sort of like accept my apology
01:03:09.619 --> 01:03:12.740
and everything. But like you know this they can't be thinking in this moment that
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they're staying together. Like she's not gonna they haven't been together long enough that she's
01:03:15.700 --> 01:03:18.960
gonna like wait for him. Yeah, going away for years. Yeah, right. She's not gonna
01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:22.440
be his conjugal visit. But he goes they hug or whatever, and then Brian who
01:03:22.940 --> 01:03:25.300
you know the 37 pieces of flare guy comes out like flipping him off.
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.980
Whatever. And she's like, get a room, you two. Yeah, that guy.
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.310
Yeah. Um, let's. Let's see, we've got Milton,
01:03:33.810 --> 01:03:37.070
who's now— Well, first, no, first Peter goes before anybody's
01:03:37.570 --> 01:03:40.870
at the office. He goes and he slides the envelope
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under Lumbergh's door to his office and then decides he wants it back. So he
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goes to try to get it out from underneath. Never even tries the door,
01:03:48.030 --> 01:03:51.150
if you'll notice. Never even tries the knob, just gives it up. 'Cause then,
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yeah, basically Milton comes back for
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the day or whatever, and Lumbergh's not there yet, but Milton is like still trying
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to figure out where his paycheck is basically and wants his stapler back. And so
01:04:01.010 --> 01:04:04.600
he's asking The the secretary in front of Lumber's office is like,
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Mr. Lumber, whatever. And so she tells him, "Go sit in your seat.
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Go whatever." And he walks in. He's well, I'm going to get my stapler.
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And then so he goes in, and he we see him like step on the
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envelope and kind of notice it. And then we cut away. And so now Peter
01:04:18.540 --> 01:04:21.960
is gonna leave his apartment and go to the office to basically be there
01:04:22.460 --> 01:04:25.980
to be arrested. I guess the idea. I love another great Lawrence. Like, "Hey,
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.600
Peter, man, watch out for your cornhole, bud." Yeah, you know.
01:04:30.100 --> 01:04:33.120
Yeah, he says goodbyes to Lawrence and everything. Exactly. And then when he gets there,
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.480
uh, he sees that the building is on fire. Big time on fire. Not like
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a little fire. Yeah, there's not a fire inside the building. Every bit of that
01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:43.219
building is on fire. There's like a big sculpture out front that's falling over because
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:47.120
it's like all of its connective tissue is burning and everything. And so, you know,
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Peter just starts chuckling about the whole thing, and we still see Milton sort of
01:04:50.600 --> 01:04:53.960
wandering off. Um, and it's funny because I think the way— I like the way
01:04:54.460 --> 01:04:57.650
they decided to indicate to us that Milton took the envelope, took the money.
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.980
Well, there's 2, but the first one We then cut ahead a few months,
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and Peter is part of the demolition crew tearing down what's left of him and
01:05:04.819 --> 01:05:08.260
Lawrence. He's basically joined Lawrence's crew, and he's got a shovel, or Lawrence does,
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:12.299
and he picks up the red Swingline stapler from the ashes. So clearly Milton got
01:05:12.799 --> 01:05:16.680
distracted away from the stapler in Bill Lumbergh's office and took the envelope.
01:05:17.180 --> 01:05:19.780
We later see Milton at a resort or whatever as well. Yeah. But basically,
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:23.300
like, the idea that the coda here is that Peter has taken a job in
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construction, being outside, working with his hands, getting exercise, Working with Lawrence.
01:05:27.860 --> 01:05:30.620
He feels good about it because Michael and Samir show up and are like,
01:05:31.120 --> 01:05:33.519
hey, man, how you doing? Like, hey, we got jobs at Intertrode. It's fine.
01:05:34.019 --> 01:05:36.320
We could probably help you get one there. He's like, nah, I'm good. Yeah.
01:05:36.820 --> 01:05:39.230
And which is great. Peter's figured out— Yeah. And Peter's like, look, I'm outside.
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.900
I'm making some money. I'm getting some exercise. Like, I'm not having people
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.360
ask me if I have a case of the Mondays and everything. Like, this works
01:05:45.860 --> 01:05:49.500
for me. So yeah, he finds like a solution, like something that's good enough for
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.740
him to, uh, do for a living. Exactly. And that's, uh— and then we— yeah,
01:05:53.240 --> 01:05:56.270
and then we close on Milton at a resort And he asks the the guy
01:05:56.770 --> 01:05:58.770
for something. He's like, "Oh, there was salt so much salt on the rim." I
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asked for no salt and whatever. And the guy's like, "Pinche gringo," and like walks.
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And Milton's like, "I could take my traveler's checks to a competing resort."
01:06:07.150 --> 01:06:09.190
He is a funny guy. How old was Stephen Root when this was made?
01:06:09.690 --> 01:06:12.370
I gotta look into that because he's still currently in so much shit, right?
01:06:12.870 --> 01:06:15.450
I gotta say thirties, like maybe maybe late thirties. It's one of those things where
01:06:15.950 --> 01:06:19.270
you always think of him as being like mid-fifties, right? But then as you're seeing
01:06:19.770 --> 01:06:21.770
him now, you're like, "Well, he couldn't have been that old, right?" He's in his
01:06:22.270 --> 01:06:25.710
60s now. Like, you know, yeah. So that is— yeah, that's Office Space,
01:06:26.210 --> 01:06:29.190
man. So yeah, yeah. All right, well, this was my pick to close out,
01:06:29.690 --> 01:06:32.370
uh, 2 Dads 2 Decades. Yeah, there's been quite a run here all the way
01:06:32.870 --> 01:06:36.210
from Airplane to Office Space. Um, yeah, so I hadn't watched—
01:06:36.710 --> 01:06:40.270
I'd seen this probably maybe as much as I've seen anything
01:06:40.770 --> 01:06:43.890
in my life. Interesting. Okay, uh, pretty high up there because this was like,
01:06:44.390 --> 01:06:47.350
you know, for a while in college it was like 40 days in a row
01:06:47.850 --> 01:06:51.360
we put this on every single All day. Um, and I haven't seen
01:06:51.860 --> 01:06:55.320
it about 10 years or so. I think it is still funny. It's still
01:06:55.820 --> 01:06:59.359
relevant. It's a great snapshot of like that time and like working during that
01:06:59.859 --> 01:07:03.779
time. Um, most of the jokes are still pretty good. Uh,
01:07:04.279 --> 01:07:07.730
the soundtrack I think is good. Like, I like it. It's not for everyone,
01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:11.040
so there's certain people it's not going to work for, but I think it's— the
01:07:11.540 --> 01:07:14.560
choices are better than they were in like Basketball or something. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
01:07:14.860 --> 01:07:18.480
Uh, there was like a, a cohesiveness to the soundtrack and
01:07:18.980 --> 01:07:22.200
everything. As much as I love Michael and Samir, I don't
01:07:22.700 --> 01:07:26.340
think they're that great as sidekick actors. I think Ron Livingston's fine.
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:30.580
I think Jennifer Aniston is extremely underutilized. She is
01:07:31.080 --> 01:07:34.260
such a funny comedic actress. And I never watched Friends when
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:37.560
it was on. I never watched Friends at all until the pandemic. My wife and
01:07:38.060 --> 01:07:41.620
daughter would watch it. But even without that, like her in Wanderlust and all these
01:07:42.120 --> 01:07:45.100
different movies, she is really funny. Yeah. And I wish they gave her more to
01:07:45.310 --> 01:07:48.730
doing this, because she's more just like the chick from Leprechaun in this movie.
01:07:49.230 --> 01:07:51.369
Like, they don't give her a whole lot, right? Well, this was definitely a time
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when like TV actors didn't generally move over to movies. Yeah.
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So she really— she was the first of the, of the like Friends people to
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really make— well, I guess not the first to make the move, but like,
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because, because Courteney Cox did Scream, you know, and then Jennifer Aniston did this and
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a couple other things. But it's like, there would— you couldn't demand the kind of
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like, you know, the fact that you were a hit TV star did not get
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you great roles, right? Right, right, right. When you get into like a level below—
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yeah, you go today and And it's like, it's all interchangeable now, you know?
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So it's like, that was a thing where she was still considered by, by the
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film world in Hollywood to be, well, just a TV person. So I'm
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sure she just didn't get a meaty role, but she looked at it and went,
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I want— I got to get into this somehow. I do these. And eventually she
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can do stuff like, you know, whatever, like Meet the Millers or whatever. Very funny
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stuff. But right. So yeah. And that is a good point. I mean, like during
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the era that we're covering, there was such a difference and TV and film didn't
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mix all that much. Yep. Um, this was an enjoyable watch.
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It was an hour 30. I felt like it was kind of a long hour
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30. Fair. A little bit. Yeah. Um, there were parts
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of it that weren't, like, super exciting. The overall message I think that's important
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to take away from this is your loyalty to your job should be exactly
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limited to what it's doing for you. It is fucking insane to go above
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and beyond for these companies that do not give a fuck about you. you.
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So just always keep that in mind. Like, nothing is worth your sanity. Nothing is
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worth your fucking freedom. So like, you know, Peter, if we have those hypnotherapists
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in real life, find one of those, or just find something you want to do.
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Because I like Peter's resolution here at the end. This was, this was still pretty
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fun for me. And I would definitely recommend this. I'd be surprised if there's people
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in our demo who haven't seen it. Yeah, I know, right? But if you haven't,
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check it out. Like, if you missed it for some reason, I think it's worth
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watching for I'm gonna give Office Space a 3.5 out of 5. All right,
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yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty much right in the same ballpark you're in. I think it's
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interesting, 1999 was an interesting year for movies in that if you think about
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it, this movie and then 2 of the biggest movies of the year were all
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somehow based around a white man dissatisfied with
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his office job, with his comfortable office job. Because you have this, The Matrix,
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and Fight Club all deal with a guy, a white guy who hates his office
01:10:00.200 --> 01:10:02.900
job. Yeah. Right? And it's like when we look back at like the stability of
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the late '90s economy, versus today, you know, it's like, dude, you were—
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we were all lucky to have those kinds of jobs in some way back then
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because you had time and money potentially for hobbies and shit, right? You know,
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you weren't struggling or worrying about survival. But in these movies, there's so much sentiment
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around that soul-crushing, you know, kind of thing. It's— I feel like it's
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very much in the same way. It's such a product of the late '90s.
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Just like the concept of being a sellout, like, isn't a thing anymore. Like,
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everybody sells out constantly. Everything's been sufficiently financialized that
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that's dropped from them. So that's not a thing. Like, there are no posers or
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sellouts anymore. anymore. Like, that was a purely '90s construct,
01:10:38.650 --> 01:10:41.080
right? And this whole thing about being— hating your office job, I feel like,
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is very much like, uh, like that as well, and it is very uniquely '90s.
01:10:45.369 --> 01:10:47.709
Um, yeah, I really enjoyed this movie. I had a lot of fun watching it.
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It's not great. It's, it's not like some spectacular comedy that holds up
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great. You're right, the federal pound me in the ass prison, that's shitty. I don't
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like it. It's just kind of not that funny to begin with. And there are
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other elements that just kind of fall a little bit flat, but then there's some
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jokes that just absolutely kill. Yeah. And it's almost all the supporting people that really
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are hilarious. Diedrich Bader and John C. McGinley make this movie. Their characters
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are hilarious. There's not a wasted line in between either of them.
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Very, very funny people. I'm also a 3.5 out of 5 on Office Space.
01:11:16.710 --> 01:11:19.230
So we're a 7 out of 10 altogether, which I think is right about where
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we should be with this. Yeah. So 7 out of 10 on Office Space.
01:11:23.310 --> 01:11:26.270
And that wraps up 2 Dads, 2 Decades. So we have— what are we going
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to do? Yeah, we've got no guiding light, no North Star for now
01:11:30.810 --> 01:11:34.500
until I'll let you know, folks, from now until October. Now we're doing 2 Dads
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chaos. We'll bring back Shocktoberfest this October, but until then,
01:11:38.719 --> 01:11:41.560
it's kind of like whatever we want to watch. I like it. I like it.
01:11:42.060 --> 01:11:45.320
I don't like being so restrained. Yeah. So now we've got the whole pair of
01:11:45.820 --> 01:11:49.180
decades. The whole 20 years is before us and available to us. It's my pick.
01:11:49.500 --> 01:11:52.140
And I decided coming out of this, I really wanted to nail it with something
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that I feel like is one of the best movies, period, of all time.
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Definitely, definitely one of the best movies of the era. And for a while was
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in my like little top 4 movies in Letterboxd on my Letterboxd account.
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:06.040
This was one of my top 4 for a while. So we are going— the
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movie came out in 1993. So that's the era that we're going back to.
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But the movie takes place in the late 19th century in the Arizona Territory.
01:12:14.040 --> 01:12:17.240
So this is an Old West. This is a Western. It is one of the
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best Westerns. Best Westerns. It is one of the finest Westerns ever made.
01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:25.090
Starring Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, and Sam Elliott. This is the story
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of the shootout at the O.K. Corral and the Earp brothers. We're gonna watch Tombstone.
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Damn. Which is just one of the best movies, one of the best westerns of
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all time. I, I am super excited because this movie is definitely
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in my top 5 of movies people would yell at me for not having seen.
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Perfect. And I don't know why I haven't seen it. I have no reason.
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Like, I'm fucking psyched about this. This could be another The Thing. You're introducing
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me to a Kurt Russell movie I haven't seen. Dude, I'm, I'm really excited to
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watch this one. This is much more The Thing than it is like The Last
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Starfighter. I'll tell you that. It's definitely closer to The Thing, uh, than The Last
01:13:00.300 --> 01:13:04.000
Starfighter. So yeah, so next week we will watch Tombstone. That's a wrap.
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So if you like what you hear, please consider heading over to Apple or Spotify
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There you can explore the movies we've covered, sign up for our newsletter, newsletter,
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Office Space, another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve. And I'm Nic.
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Thank you so much for listening, and we'll catch you next week. Thanks,

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