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The following podcast is part of the Mind, Body, Spirit
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dot fm podcast network.
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Welcome to Truth Transforms.
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Join in for spiritually enlightening discussion and the practical application
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of New Thought principles. Here's your host, Reverend Galen McDowell.
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Welcome to Truth Transforms, the Reverend Gale McDowell. I'm your host,
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Erban Gale McDowell, and I am the executive ministers and
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your assistant minister and the director of the Johnny Coleman
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Institute at Christ Universal Temple in Chicago. Today, I'm doing
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a podcast with a friend that you know well. And
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the title is after each of What, and the guest
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is the director of Pastoral Care and the Prime Ministry
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at Christ Universal Temple, the Reverend Valerie McGee.
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How are you doing that, Reverend.
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McGee, I'm doing great. Reverend Galen, how are you doing well?
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Doing well?
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So you know, for years, we used to have a
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series we called After Easter What, And it was what
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we did after the Easter service, after we've covered the
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life of Jesus and this was okay, what happened after that?
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With the apostles, et cetera, et cetera. And ironically, as
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we were recording this. We have a guest speaker, Rev
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and Kevin Ross was from Chicago from cut.
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That's his actual sermon title.
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Which I didn't know when as I mentioned to you
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earlier today, I didn't know when we actually when I
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ask you to do this title.
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But this gives us a little.
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Bit of time to flesh it out, and I think
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that's a good thing too. And here's the thing, you
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can never get too much truth. So by the time
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people actually hear this podcast, he would have done his sermon,
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and then we can have some extra points that we
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can add to it as well. Because the idea is
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as metaphysical Christians as new thought Christians, we have a
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unique perspective on how we actually look at these topics,
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how we look at the Bible, how we interpret the Bible,
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how we interpret the characters of the Bible. It's not
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the literal fundamentalist point of view, and we're not knocking them.
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We're saying, this is how we view it, this is
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how we look at it, and this is how to.
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Kill it thought.
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Yes, yes, absolutely, so, you know, I have a few
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questions and I just want to discuss them with you really,
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you know, during the timeframe we have here together. So
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my first question is what is the significance of Easter
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from a New thought perspective.
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Well, I'm one of those people that I like to
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define things so I can really understand what I'm doing,
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So I had to look up significance in Easter. The
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significance of anything is the quality of being important or
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obscurely or indirectly important. And Easter represents the feast of
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the feast that commemorates christ resurrection, So the significance of
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anything is the quality and level of importance to you.
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For New Thought practitioners, it is the celebration of freedom.
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It is the final step in a forty day Lenten
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season where we have fasted from negative thoughts, words, feeling, actions,
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and reactions for forty days. It is the final celebration
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of releasing whatever has kept you connected to what has
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limited or stunted you from moving forward to your highest good.
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Easter is the final release from bondage to a new
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life experience, a new beginning in a raised, elevated consciousness.
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It is an awareness, a new beginning, a new way
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of living without binding thoughts that have kept you in
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bondage or in a limited state of existence.
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I love that. I love that because it's a reminder
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that Easter.
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Actually impacts us differently when we look at it from
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a standpoint of spiritual growth and when we have to
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release and what we have to embrace. You know, when
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I first came to cut I can remember hearing my
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very first Easter sermon from the Reverend doctor Johnny Coleman,
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the founder of our ministry, and it was much different
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than what I had heard as a boy growing up.
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I was a young man when I started the church,
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started hear at the church. I was all of twenty
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years old, and I knew what I understood to be
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the Easter message. And then she starts talking about my
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own empowerment. I was like, well, wait a minute, this
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is a different conversation because a lot of what I
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felt as a child concerning Easter was connected to guilt,
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guilt about something I didn't even do. But it was like,
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you know, he went through this, and he went through that,
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and I can, you know, watch the Jesus movies with
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my grandmother and she's crying, you know, like Jesus didn't
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do nothing to nobody.
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That's how we were brought up.
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Yes, yes, yes, So hearing the New Thought message and
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how we interpret Easter was eye opening to me literally,
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and I'm hoping that some of the people who might
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not be associated with it, with a New Thought church
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or a New Thought church that has a Christian orientation,
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this might be new information to you and instead of
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having to throw the baby out with the bath water
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because you don't agree with one interpretation, maybe, just maybe
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this can give you an opportunity to look at this differently. Right,
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So let me get to my next question then, h
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And by the way, that's by the way, my grandmother
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did say that we were watching that Jesus of Nazareth
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series and was like the sixty Ehs's and when they
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were beating Jesus and doing all that stuff and putting
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on the cross, you like, he didn't do nothing to nobody.
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You know. It's one of my favorite memories.
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Actually, Yes, she was so upset, you know, it's so
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much guilt that goes along with that. But anyway, next question,
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what does resurrection mean for Jesus and for us?
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Well, I went to one of our books, The Revealing Words,
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and it said resurrection is the restoring of mind and
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body to their original undying state. This is accomplished by
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the realization that God is spirit and that God created
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humans with power like that which God himself possessed. The
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word resurrection also suggests that they're there has been a
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falling short of a divine standard therefore or hence the
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necessity of being restored and revived. For Jesus' resurrection meant
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he overcame death in the body. The power of the
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resurrection is the Christ, the original spirit form. That's what
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Jesus did. He returned to his original form, Christ, absolute principle,
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the God idea of humankind. The resurrection takes place in
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us every time we rise to Jesus's realization of perpetual,
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indwelling life that is connecting us to the Father. In
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other words, to us, the resurrection is our returning to
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God spirit when we release those thoughts and feelings that
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hinder us, when our intellect unites with the spirit that
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I am in us to guide us.
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Okay, So every time we have new realization, every time
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we grow, every time we recognize God's eternal life in us,
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we're experiencing a resurrection.
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So, based off what you just taught, it's not a
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one time thing.
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No, it's not.
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It's a reoccurring thing.
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Yes, it is, as we rise to new levels of awareness,
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rise to new levels of consciousness. And since God is infinite,
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I would just assume that resurrection is infinite as well.
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Yes, it is. But one of the things that happens
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with the resurrection is every time you resurrect yourself from
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or through something, you become stronger, You become more understanding
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about who you are and how you can contact the
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spirit in you and grow even more.
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Yeah. That's powerful. That's powerful.
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Yeah, And it gives us an opportunity to look at
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how we view Jesus as an individual, actual, factual person
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who walked the earth, and Jesus as a symbol of
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Christ consciousness, Christ's awareness, and how we walk into the
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same Christ consciousness or Christ's awareness. So I think it
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gives us a more panoramic view of what happens without
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again adding the guilt of you know, two people, the
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two original people messed up, and that meant that all
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of us are messed up because of them, which is
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you know, traditional Christian theology that says, you know, basically
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everybody that is born is headed directly to Hell. Unless
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you accept this belief about Jesus just gives us some
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greater insight. So let's get to Yeah, let me get
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to the next question. So we know that after the
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resurrection and Jesus had a forty day period of teaching
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his disciples, and then we bump into what is called
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in Christianity the ascension. What is the metaphysical meaning of
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the ascension?
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No, let me see if I can give it to
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you the way it was given to me. Metaphysical means
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going beyond the literal interpretation to the deeper inner meaning
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of something.
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In the study of metaphysics, it is the systematic study
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of the science of being. In other words, what makes
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us who we are. Okay. So, in this same train
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of thought, ascension metaphysically is the ascending or progressive unfoldment.
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And I put so that I could understand that it
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means it's open to view, it's expanding, it blossoms, it evolves,
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it is open out gradually. It's not something that happens overnight, right, Okay.
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And the view or the understanding of humans from the
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animal to the spiritual. Because Jesus first manifested himself as
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a man, okay, and he was working on working through
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just like we do our animal instincts, our animal human
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way of doing things, to become more spiritual and understanding
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of who and what we are. When we extend, we
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grow consciously into something bigger and better than what we
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are right now.
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Yes, yes, I can remember yet again, going back in memory,
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Reverend Coleman, I think this is maybe ninety four, ninety
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three or ninety four, and she's teaching the ascension and
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she does a deep dive into Charles Fillmore's work on
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the ascension, and she starts talking about Jesus releasing the
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electrons of his spiritual, spiritualized body and consciousness into the
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race consciousness or the collective consciousness, etc. Of the human
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race that anyone who ponders on Jesus can tap into
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this you know, field of mind that he's released into
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the human consciousness. And I'm sitting there like literally listening
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because I had no context of like things like now
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quantum physics and other ways people teach consciousness. I'm sitting
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there like, what in the heck am I listening to
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right now?
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Yes? Yes, it's almost like you have to put two
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and two together and they just wasn't working. Yeah, what
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you already had.
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I went to the bookstore, I saw Edgar about the cassette,
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and I'm not joking.
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I would just listen to the said day after day, and.
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I can I understand what she was teaching now, obviously,
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but the dedication of let me, let me get this right,
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let me get this right, let me get you know,
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like really, it was her saying in her own way,
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Jesus is an elevated soul is not gone anywhere. That's
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just gone from how we detect people with physical senses. Yes,
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and it was very interesting, to say the least. But
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yet again, it gives us a good reminder that we
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can ascend above and beyond situations and circumstances, and.
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We can achieve what we do.
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Yes, absolutely, But whenever you have an AHA moment, you
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are astending right you moving past where you are right now?
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Done on a regular basis too.
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when you know you had you know, crucifixion and resurrection,
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then ascension, and.
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You know, it's kind of funny about ascension.
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And I'm not saying that this is necessarily a part
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of anything that we have officially in writing, but just
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in contemplation.
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When he ascended, he had to go along.
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Yes, there are times when we just want people to
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be with us for every step of the journey. But
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there's some things that are just between us and God,
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you know, like okay, yeah, like this walk that I'm walking.
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There becomes a point to where this is not a
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group project anymore.
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Right, this is you got to do this on your own.
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It's like when your baby was learning how to walk. Yes,
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you may have hear old their hands in the beginning,
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but when they really wanted to be independent, they had
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to stumble, fall and get back up, just.
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Like we did.
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And they couldn't depend on you to do it for all.
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Yes, yes, and that makes a difference, all the difference
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in the world. Eventually, you just have to do it.
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I can remember being young learning how to drive on
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the Highway. I would get on the Dan Ryan in
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ninety fifth street, you know, get off on eighty seventh,
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and I would turn around, get off on eighty, get
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on on eighty seven and get off on that because
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I was trying to learn how to match the speed
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and blend all right, Okay, it was like, okay, well
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we can do the formal way or I can just
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it's time to get on the highway.
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And it worked, and it works because you.
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Right, some things are in a group project and you're
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developing your spiritual consciousness and you're activating and unfolding inner powers,
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inner faculties in their forces.
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go right.
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teach them first grade math and then they want you
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to explain them astrophysics.
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So the next thing that we ended up after the
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ascension is Pentecost. So what is the metaphysical meaning of
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the Pentecost.
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with the Israelites the great festival of harvest, or the
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day of the first Fruit, and that's found in Exodus
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twenty three sixteen. It signifies a gathering of spiritual powers
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for the purpose of harvesting the first fruits of spirit
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to unselfish service in the vineyard of the Lord. That's
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a powerful statement to me, okay, because you're talking about
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the fruits, the ideas that God is in you and
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harvesting them and bringing them forward. It signifies the first
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coming of the Holy Spirit after Jesus's ascension, baptizing his
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apostles and immediate followers, the assent into consciousness of the
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Jesus Christ life. That's what it was about. The apostles
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were in the upper room. That's that high state of consciousness,
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high state of awareness. It was a spiritual state of
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mind and had been and they have been praying for
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ten days with one accord for fulfillment of the promise
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of the Holy Spirit as given by Jesus. You see,
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Jesus was preparing them for this right, okay. So even
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though they were there praying, praying, and on one of cord,
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they had no idea what was coming. They had no
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idea that they were being lifted like that. So this
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attitude of many minds forms a mental magnet and it
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brings about results. And the scripture that came to me
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so very clearly was where two or more gathered in
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my name. There I am in the midst of them.
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Matthew eighteen twenty.
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All right, well, you know what's funny about the Pentecost
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to me is at the ascension. Before the ascension, Jesus
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told them, he did, you know, you will receive power
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when and I love that word when.
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Because you know Dictionary of Faith.
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You know, best friends, you will receive power when the
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Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you know a lot
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obviously a lot of different religious Christian practices look at
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the Holy Spirit differently.
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We say that the Holy Spirit is the whole spirit
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of God.
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It act God, right, So, yes, God is everywhere present,
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but God is still an activity that can work to
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your consciousness and body. So when the activity is moving, well,
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I guess it's a better way for me to say
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this when we open ourselves to what already.
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Is absolutely and that's what they're praying. Yes, the Upper
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Room did for ten days. Yeah, open them up to
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receive the Holy Spirit.
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Right, And sometimes the reason why we don't exhibit the
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power that's available is because we're not doing the end
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of work that precedes the power that's right. If you
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want the power. You got to go to the Upper
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Room first.
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Yes, you do, because you cannot. There's no the only
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the only information you're going to get is from your intellect,
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and it's afraid of everything. Okay, it's gonna tell you
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all the stuff that you can't do, all the stuff
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that's not gonna work. It's not gonna tell you anything
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about how powerful you are. Yes, you got to go
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to the Upper Room. That's that high state of consciousness
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where you and God are communicating. Yes, it can't happen
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any other way.
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That's really what it's all about. Definitely, definitely.
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So we're gonna take a quick break here before we
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deal with the remaining questions. Before we take the break,
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I do want to remind the listeners that part two
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of my Prosperity the Fundamentals of New Thought webinar that
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I'm doing with the Reven Alberta Ware is May second
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at from twelve pm to two pm Central time. That's
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it'll be broadcasted live, but it'll still be on It'll
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still be available afterwards on YouTube on the YouTube channel
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for Crash. Universal Temple, which is see You Temple, see
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You in the word. Temple altogether is one word. So
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you get an opportunity to see a breakdown of the
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book Prosperity by Charles Filmore, which I've already done on
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this podcast. I did it over about a decade to go,
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but this gives you an opportunity to see it with
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power points. It gives you an opportunity to see how
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I look at it now versus a decade ago. And
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it also gives you an opportunity to get the brilliance
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of Reverend Ware's interpretation we're doing. You know, we're alternating chapters,
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so it gives us an opportunity to really flesh it out.
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Matter of fact, a listener from out of state actually
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called me to tell me that she listened to it
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three times the same day. That lets me know when
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you really want something, you put everything else down and
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you go for what you want. She's trying to get
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her understanding of what we were teaching, so she shut
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everything down and listened to it three times in the
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same day, and it was about an hour and fifty minutes.
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That's how you do it, y'all. This isn't microwave truth.
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You have to put in the work. So with that,
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we're going to take a quick break and we'll be
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right back with True Transforms.
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Hm hm hm hm.
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Welcome back to True Transforms and Reverend Gaey McDowell.
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I have as my host today.
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The Reverend Reverend Valerie McGee, and we're disgusting discussing after Easter.
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What from a metaphory, new thought Christian perspective, how do
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we work with posts Eastern stories in the Bible, What
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the disciples went through, what they did, and how does
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that relate.
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To our own spiritual growth?
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All right, so, reverd McGee, my next question is what
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is the metaphysical meaning of spreading the Gospel to all
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the nations?
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Wow, that was really a very good question to me,
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because the Gospel is from God meaning good. It's telling
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the story the good News. You see, Jesus fulfilled his
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mission and the doctrine of what he came to do.
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He fulfilled it because he spread the gospel even if
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they didn't understand what he was saying to him at
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the time he spread the gospel, he gave them the
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power to do it themselves, even if they didn't know
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it and they didn't understand what they were supposed to do.
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You see, the gospel we are to spread shares with
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all nations, meaning anybody in everybody. It doesn't matter what
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your language is, where you are in the world. Is
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that everyone can become God incarnate, God's Word may manifest.
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That's what the gospel is for us. That's how you
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spread the gospel. Just like this podcast, you are spreading
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the gospel, the word of God that I am. It's
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here right now in us. And we must go forward
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and tell the gospel, give the word from what God
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and Jesus has given us to teach people how to change.
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I love that.
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I love that, you know, because this isn't beating somebody
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up upside the head with religious dogma.
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It's telling people the presence and power of God lives
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in you. Yes, And this.
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Is how you activated, this is how you express it,
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this is how you live from that awareness.
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And I think that's helpful.
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Also, just to take it a step further, we can
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also say that this also spreading the Gospel throughout our
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own being, our own conscious and subconscious minds. You know,
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their aspects of my subconscious I know need redemption.
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Rever McGee. I might not say it, but Lord, I
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might be thinking it.
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Iand where did that come from?
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Yeah?
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Like it just pops up, like but I'm control now
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to make sure they don't come out of my mouth.
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So as we work on the aspects that we're consciously
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aware of, even aspects that are so subconscious that we
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don't know, the Gospel has to be spread to those
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thoughts and feelings, those thought people. As we were taught
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back in the day, people in the Bible symbolic are
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symbolical the thoughts and feelings that we have.
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They have to also hear the good news because.
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There's an aspect of us that are very spiritual and
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can quote the scriptures, and Charles Fillmore said this, and
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Ernest Holmes said that, but there's also some unredeemed aspects,
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those things.
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That Johnny used to talk about. With your subconscious all
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it does is record it, don't erase nothing. It's all
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in there.
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It's still in there.
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It's all in there, and it needs to be healed
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and transformed. And we're also speaking the Gospel to our bodies.
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When you pray about that body part that's acting up,
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you're spreading the Gospel to those joints, to those bones,
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to those organs, to those arteries and veins and capillaries,
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to those ligaments. That's a part of to that tissue
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is spreading the good news of the life activity of
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God in that part that's not acting the way it
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was designed to act.
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Absolutely, that's how.
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The healing work is done. We do the healing work
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by spreading the Gospel to our bodies.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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So next question, what does it mean metaphysically for the
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switch and focus from Peter to Paul in the.
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Book of Acts.
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Well, these answers. But I loved about me studying this
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is that it broke both of them down to their
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human self and how they changed. Okay, that's what I
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loved about it. For instance, let's start with Peter. Peter
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was a hard compact, strong, firm, unyielding. He was a rock. Metaphysically,
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he represents the spiritual faculty of faith the disciples name
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Simon means hearing, signifying his receptivity and ability to discern truth.
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That's the rock that it's built on. He represents faith
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in God, strong, unwavering, and enduring. This is the necessary
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foundation for the building up of spiritual consciousness. He typifies
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that state of unsteadiness and fluctuates from high spiritual to material.
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Didn't we know that Peter went up and down all
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the time, yet with an ever recurrent desire for spirit.
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His desire was always to be one with spirit. Peter
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often was wavering, denying one is the reality of faith
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works through the intellect and subject to all the winds
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and waves of sensed thought. However, Peter's spiritual import was
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his repeated affirmations of love, Love, as given in John
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twenty one, verses fifteen through seventeen, as that steadfast of
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faith developed through love. So until faces faith is thoroughly
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identified with the Christ, you will find that Peter, that
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your Peter faculty in you is a regular weather car.
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It will affire his allegiance to the Christ and just
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as quickly show adversity. You must stay close to Peter
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always to certain of his to remember, and to make
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sure that his elite that he has, that you have
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his allegiance and love. Now, Paul, what I loved about
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studying this was it broke it down so that we
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can apply it to ourselves as well. Paul is restrained,
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different symbology and shades of meaning are given to Paul,
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and his life and ministry are bearing on the important
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work of overcoming in an individual. If Paul didn't do
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anything else, he overcame all those thoughts, all those feelings.
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He overcame them all individually. He couldn't do it for you,
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no more than you can do it for them. First,
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it was the pharaceutical state of mind, which may be
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found in one who is intellectually educated and may inherit
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his religious bias or get it from association. And the
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second way is the spiritual state of mind, which is
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found in one who attains real spiritual understanding through illumination
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by the Christ's mind. You see, we all experienced both
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of these states of mind as we do. Paul represents
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the Word of spirit of truth. But the converted Paul
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formerly Saul of Tarsus, feels a large place in biblical history.
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and an orator. He represents the expressor of the Word.
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In other words, everything he learned, he taught it so
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that we could apply it ourselves. Remember, Paul was formally
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named Saul.
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the larger personal will was converted into the obedient servant
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of the Christ.
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What about you?
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Yeah, I love that because you know, you know, one
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of the things that again the way we teach new
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thought is when a faculty is the work that it
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needs to do at that level of our sole evolution,
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another aspect rises to take take on the new task
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of where we are at our current state. So just
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like we'll go from a Moses to a Joshua, because
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the two different aspects of consciousness don't do the same
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thing absolutely, So we develop one aspect and then something
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else has to come in and be developed on top
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of it.
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So we are.
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Stacking growth for lack of terms, and just like post Jesus,
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this is resurrection to center everything.
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We have to have faith.
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You know, I can remember you know the disciple of
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Reverendkolemy talked about the most Peter, you got to talk
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to Peter, you got to tell Peter. And she was saying,
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talk to your faith, praying your faith, get your faith
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in order, because she knew that that was primary to
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the development of the rest of our are inner faculty.
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And once that's established, then these other aspects come up
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to be either take the lead or to be cultivated.
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So just as much as we need the faith, we
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also need this aspect of the Paul that says, Okay,
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how do I spread this word of truth or spirit
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to all the aspects of my being?
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You need that too, you know. And just like.
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Paul had to deal with rebel a rousers and his
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individual churches, he had the right letters to guess, what's
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gonna happen those aspects, those thoughts, those feelings, those beliefs.
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I thought, people, they're gonna raise some hell to sometimes.
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And it's and it's the word of spirit.
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It's the word of truth that has to address and
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get those thoughts, those feelings, those beliefs back in alignment.
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It's something else, a matter of interpretation of the Bible.
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I think it's the best thing since slice break.
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Yes, it is. What I liked about Paul was when
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it talked about Remember Paul was formally named Saul, but
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when Saul changed his mind, he became Paul. In other words,
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that's what we're doing too. As we grow spiritually, as
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we go grow metaphysically more understanding and knowing what the
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Christ is and how we're working with it. We changed too.
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We get rid of that big will, that personal will,
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and let the servant, the guy and you come forth
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and do what it's supposed to do.
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Yes, yes, when we change, When we change, when we change,
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and the name has to change because the nature name
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means nature metaphysically.
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So Abram becomes Abraham, you know.
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And Simon becomes Peter or Simon Peter, and Saul becomes Paul.
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You can't because once you've changed, your name or your
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nature or your.
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Essential character has to change. So that's a beautiful thing.
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And we still see this today and him and in
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many religious groups and uh and denominations. When someone changes
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or they become a part of a new thing, they
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change their name, and God bless them, you know. And
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I can remember being a young man watching the clip
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on TV of Muhammad Ali fighting the guy who refused
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to call him Muhammad Ali. And he's beating the guy saying,
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say my name. I'm not saying telling people to go
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out there and do that. The point was he was
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trying to explain to the person, I'm not Leuil Sender anymore.
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And you refuse not, Louis said, excuse me, cash Is
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Clay Luis yeah, I'm like, excuse me, Yeah, I jumped,
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I jump names.
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You know.
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The guy refused to call him Muhammad Ali. He only
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wanted to call him Castus Clay to insult him. But
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because Muhammad Ali had left the identity of Cassius Clay,
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he wanted to be acknowledged as the person he is now,
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not who he.
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Was, And therefore that.
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He does make a difference.
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It makes a difference, all right?
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Last question? Sure, can we experience the Kingdom of God now?
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And why? If so? Why?
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Okay? The kingdom kingdom is of God of heaven. The
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Kingdom of Heaven is the orderly adjustment of divine ideas
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in man's mind and body. Jesus did it. In order
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to find this kingdom, man must become conscious, that means
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aware of divine mind, God Mind and its realm of
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divine ideas, and be willing to adjust his thoughts to
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the divine standards. Why when man adjusts his thought world
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to the kingdom of divine ideas through the process of denial,
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by which he eliminates from his consciousness his awareness all
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in harmonies, all in harmonious ideas, and through affirmations of
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truth by which he established himself in harmony with divine ideas.
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Then we realize that heaven is not confined to man's
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consciousness awareness, for the Kingdom is everywhere present, all right.
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You know, Jesus told people that, you know, Luke, Chapter seventeen,
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verse twenty twenty one. Yes, the Kingdom of God comes
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down by observation. Can't say, look is over here, look
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is over there? For behold, the Kingdom of God is
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within you. It what funny is a lot of the
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modern translations they translate that the Kingdom of God is
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among you, which is still accurate.
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But then you look in the footnotes and it says
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within you.
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In other words, this could be translated either way and
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it would still be accurate because sometimes people have a
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hard time recognizing, Okay, I could go with this among us,
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but telling me that it's within me, that this.
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Power I've done and do, yeah, yes, yes.
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Yes, And and that's one of the central components of
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why we teach this a new thought. You know, I
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can remember, you know, many years ago that was down
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on I think it's eighth and Michigan by Chicago Ideas,
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and I was a part of a panel.
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With a different religious leader.
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It was a, it was some more from Islam, it
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was a Pentecostal Christian, it was an atheist, and it
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was somebody else. And our friend Reva Lolawright was a
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moderator and she was asking us different questions, and they
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brought in students from Columbia College. So of course I'm
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representing new Thought and I'm trying to explain the distinction
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between new Thought and others. And one of the how
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I came up with it was I said, I said,
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many religions will teach you that there's something wrong with you.
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They have to convince you that there's a problem, that
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there's something wrong with you, and that they have the
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only solution. I said, it's like a doctor convincing you
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that you're sick and telling you that only they have
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the medicine. You can't get the medicine from anyone else.
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And I said, new thought starts from the premise that
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there's something radically right about you you, and we're going
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to teach you how to discover it an unfold.
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That's actually where that.
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Term, I'm sure people you've heard it now circulating that
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radically right. I literally made it up on the spot
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because I was trying to explain new thought to nineteen
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year old.
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Let's see, that was just God, Yes, verting it to
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the language that work. Right, Okay, So it was already there.
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It's just that you found the way to contact it
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and get it out there the way it needed to
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be out there.
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Yes, trying to explain people. The power is already available
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to you. Yes, it's accessible to you. Now you got
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to do your inner work. Absolutely, absolutely, the Kingdom of
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God is not for sale. It's not an intellectual thing.
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That's right, and can't nobody give it to you?
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And can't no one to give it to you? So
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do the work. I'm hoping that this Easter series is
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after Easter. What series will give you an opportunity to
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go back and read those post resurrection stories in the
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four Gospels and then read the Book of Acts, and
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you'll see the evolution of your own consciousness, not just
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these characters in the Bible.
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Because now you have some insight on.
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Jesus or Peter or Paul, on the Upper Room, on
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the ascension, on the Pentecost or resurrection. It gives you
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an opportunity now to look at it differently. So when
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you read it, you're recognizing that you're only reading about
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your own soul growth.
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Yes, that's what I got out of all of it.
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I mean, I wasn't sure how any of it was
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going to come together. I just knew what God was
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giving me, and it was all about my understanding and
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my change, yes, and how I can change and become
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all that I was created to be.
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Yeah, all right, well, I thank you so much for
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doing this. I'm actually eager I won't be here to
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hear Reverend Ross. I'll be preaching a Unity of Chicago
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for the next couple of Sundays as the guest speaker
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Way Up or Way North on the North Side. But
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obviously I'll check it out on YouTube later because I
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want to see how what he will add to what
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we have done already, because God is limitless in ways
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of empowering people with.
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The exact same thing.
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Absolutely all right, So listeners, thank you for listening, and
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I'll be with you next week with Truth Transforms.
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God bless
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The following podcast is part of the Mind, Body, Spirit
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Welcome to Truth Transforms.
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Join in for spiritually enlightening discussion and the practical application
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of New Thought principles. Here's your host, Reverend Galen McDowell.
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Welcome to Truth Transforms, the Reverend Gale McDowell. I'm your host,
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Erban Gale McDowell, and I am the executive ministers and
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your assistant minister and the director of the Johnny Coleman
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Institute at Christ Universal Temple in Chicago. Today, I'm doing
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a podcast with a friend that you know well. And
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the title is after each of What, and the guest
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is the director of Pastoral Care and the Prime Ministry
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at Christ Universal Temple, the Reverend Valerie McGee.
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How are you doing that, Reverend.
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McGee, I'm doing great. Reverend Galen, how are you doing well?
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Doing well?
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So you know, for years, we used to have a
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series we called After Easter What, And it was what
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we did after the Easter service, after we've covered the
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life of Jesus and this was okay, what happened after that?
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With the apostles, et cetera, et cetera. And ironically, as
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we were recording this. We have a guest speaker, Rev
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and Kevin Ross was from Chicago from cut.
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That's his actual sermon title.
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Which I didn't know when as I mentioned to you
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earlier today, I didn't know when we actually when I
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ask you to do this title.
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Bit of time to flesh it out, and I think
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that's a good thing too. And here's the thing, you
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can never get too much truth. So by the time
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people actually hear this podcast, he would have done his sermon,
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and then we can have some extra points that we
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can add to it as well. Because the idea is
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as metaphysical Christians as new thought Christians, we have a
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unique perspective on how we actually look at these topics,
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how we look at the Bible, how we interpret the Bible,
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how we interpret the characters of the Bible. It's not
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the literal fundamentalist point of view, and we're not knocking them.
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how we look at it, and this is how to.
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Kill it thought.
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Yes, yes, absolutely, so, you know, I have a few
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questions and I just want to discuss them with you really,
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you know, during the timeframe we have here together. So
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my first question is what is the significance of Easter
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from a New thought perspective.
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Well, I'm one of those people that I like to
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define things so I can really understand what I'm doing,
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So I had to look up significance in Easter. The
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significance of anything is the quality of being important or
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obscurely or indirectly important. And Easter represents the feast of
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the feast that commemorates christ resurrection, So the significance of
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anything is the quality and level of importance to you.
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For New Thought practitioners, it is the celebration of freedom.
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It is the final step in a forty day Lenten
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season where we have fasted from negative thoughts, words, feeling, actions,
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and reactions for forty days. It is the final celebration
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of releasing whatever has kept you connected to what has
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limited or stunted you from moving forward to your highest good.
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Easter is the final release from bondage to a new
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life experience, a new beginning in a raised, elevated consciousness.
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It is an awareness, a new beginning, a new way
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of living without binding thoughts that have kept you in
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bondage or in a limited state of existence.
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I love that. I love that because it's a reminder
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that Easter.
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Actually impacts us differently when we look at it from
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a standpoint of spiritual growth and when we have to
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release and what we have to embrace. You know, when
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I first came to cut I can remember hearing my
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very first Easter sermon from the Reverend doctor Johnny Coleman,
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the founder of our ministry, and it was much different
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than what I had heard as a boy growing up.
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started hear at the church. I was all of twenty
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the Easter message. And then she starts talking about my
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own empowerment. I was like, well, wait a minute, this
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is a different conversation because a lot of what I
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felt as a child concerning Easter was connected to guilt,
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guilt about something I didn't even do. But it was like,
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you know, he went through this, and he went through that,
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and I can, you know, watch the Jesus movies with
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my grandmother and she's crying, you know, like Jesus didn't
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do nothing to nobody.
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how we interpret Easter was eye opening to me literally,
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and I'm hoping that some of the people who might
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not be associated with it, with a New Thought church
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or a New Thought church that has a Christian orientation,
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this might be new information to you and instead of
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having to throw the baby out with the bath water
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because you don't agree with one interpretation, maybe, just maybe
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this can give you an opportunity to look at this differently. Right,
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did say that we were watching that Jesus of Nazareth
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series and was like the sixty Ehs's and when they
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were beating Jesus and doing all that stuff and putting
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on the cross, you like, he didn't do nothing to nobody.
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much guilt that goes along with that. But anyway, next question,
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what does resurrection mean for Jesus and for us?
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and it said resurrection is the restoring of mind and
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body to their original undying state. This is accomplished by
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the realization that God is spirit and that God created
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humans with power like that which God himself possessed. The
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word resurrection also suggests that they're there has been a
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falling short of a divine standard therefore or hence the
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necessity of being restored and revived. For Jesus' resurrection meant
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he overcame death in the body. The power of the
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resurrection is the Christ, the original spirit form. That's what
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Jesus did. He returned to his original form, Christ, absolute principle,
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the God idea of humankind. The resurrection takes place in
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us every time we rise to Jesus's realization of perpetual,
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indwelling life that is connecting us to the Father. In
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other words, to us, the resurrection is our returning to
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God spirit when we release those thoughts and feelings that
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hinder us, when our intellect unites with the spirit that
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I am in us to guide us.
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Okay, So every time we have new realization, every time
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we grow, every time we recognize God's eternal life in us,
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we're experiencing a resurrection.
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one time thing.
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It's a reoccurring thing.
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Yes, it is, as we rise to new levels of awareness,
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rise to new levels of consciousness. And since God is infinite,
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I would just assume that resurrection is infinite as well.
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with the resurrection is every time you resurrect yourself from
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or through something, you become stronger, You become more understanding
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about who you are and how you can contact the
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spirit in you and grow even more.
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Yeah. That's powerful. That's powerful.
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how we view Jesus as an individual, actual, factual person
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who walked the earth, and Jesus as a symbol of
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Christ consciousness, Christ's awareness, and how we walk into the
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same Christ consciousness or Christ's awareness. So I think it
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gives us a more panoramic view of what happens without
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again adding the guilt of you know, two people, the
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two original people messed up, and that meant that all
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of us are messed up because of them, which is
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you know, traditional Christian theology that says, you know, basically
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everybody that is born is headed directly to Hell. Unless
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you accept this belief about Jesus just gives us some
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greater insight. So let's get to Yeah, let me get
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to the next question. So we know that after the
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resurrection and Jesus had a forty day period of teaching
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his disciples, and then we bump into what is called
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in Christianity the ascension. What is the metaphysical meaning of
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the ascension?
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you the way it was given to me. Metaphysical means
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going beyond the literal interpretation to the deeper inner meaning
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of something.
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In the study of metaphysics, it is the systematic study
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of the science of being. In other words, what makes
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us who we are. Okay. So, in this same train
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of thought, ascension metaphysically is the ascending or progressive unfoldment.
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means it's open to view, it's expanding, it blossoms, it evolves,
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it is open out gradually. It's not something that happens overnight, right, Okay.
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animal to the spiritual. Because Jesus first manifested himself as
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a man, okay, and he was working on working through
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just like we do our animal instincts, our animal human
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way of doing things, to become more spiritual and understanding
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of who and what we are. When we extend, we
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grow consciously into something bigger and better than what we
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are right now.
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Yes, yes, I can remember yet again, going back in memory,
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Reverend Coleman, I think this is maybe ninety four, ninety
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three or ninety four, and she's teaching the ascension and
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she does a deep dive into Charles Fillmore's work on
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the ascension, and she starts talking about Jesus releasing the
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electrons of his spiritual, spiritualized body and consciousness into the
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race consciousness or the collective consciousness, etc. Of the human
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race that anyone who ponders on Jesus can tap into
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this you know, field of mind that he's released into
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the human consciousness. And I'm sitting there like literally listening
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because I had no context of like things like now
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quantum physics and other ways people teach consciousness. I'm sitting
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there like, what in the heck am I listening to
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right now?
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Yes? Yes, it's almost like you have to put two
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and two together and they just wasn't working. Yeah, what
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you already had.
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I went to the bookstore, I saw Edgar about the cassette,
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and I'm not joking.
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I would just listen to the said day after day, and.
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but the dedication of let me, let me get this right,
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let me get this right, let me get you know,
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like really, it was her saying in her own way,
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Jesus is an elevated soul is not gone anywhere. That's
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just gone from how we detect people with physical senses. Yes,
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and it was very interesting, to say the least. But
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yet again, it gives us a good reminder that we
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can ascend above and beyond situations and circumstances, and.
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Yes, absolutely, But whenever you have an AHA moment, you
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are astending right you moving past where you are right now?
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when you know you had you know, crucifixion and resurrection,
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then ascension, and.
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of anything that we have officially in writing, but just
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in contemplation.
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be with us for every step of the journey. But
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there's some things that are just between us and God,
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you know, like okay, yeah, like this walk that I'm walking.
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group project anymore.
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to stumble, fall and get back up, just.
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in the world. Eventually, you just have to do it.
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ninety fifth street, you know, get off on eighty seventh,
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on on eighty seven and get off on that because
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we can do the formal way or I can just
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it's time to get on the highway.
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developing your spiritual consciousness and you're activating and unfolding inner powers,
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inner faculties in their forces.
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teach them first grade math and then they want you
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to explain them astrophysics.
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ascension is Pentecost. So what is the metaphysical meaning of
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the Pentecost.
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with the Israelites the great festival of harvest, or the
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day of the first Fruit, and that's found in Exodus
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twenty three sixteen. It signifies a gathering of spiritual powers
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for the purpose of harvesting the first fruits of spirit
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to unselfish service in the vineyard of the Lord. That's
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a powerful statement to me, okay, because you're talking about
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the fruits, the ideas that God is in you and
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harvesting them and bringing them forward. It signifies the first
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coming of the Holy Spirit after Jesus's ascension, baptizing his
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apostles and immediate followers, the assent into consciousness of the
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Jesus Christ life. That's what it was about. The apostles
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high state of awareness. It was a spiritual state of
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mind and had been and they have been praying for
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ten days with one accord for fulfillment of the promise
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of the Holy Spirit as given by Jesus. You see,
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though they were there praying, praying, and on one of cord,
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they had no idea what was coming. They had no
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idea that they were being lifted like that. So this
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attitude of many minds forms a mental magnet and it
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brings about results. And the scripture that came to me
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so very clearly was where two or more gathered in
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my name. There I am in the midst of them.
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Matthew eighteen twenty.
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to me is at the ascension. Before the ascension, Jesus
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told them, he did, you know, you will receive power
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when and I love that word when.
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Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you know a lot
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obviously a lot of different religious Christian practices look at
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the Holy Spirit differently.
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of God.
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It act God, right, So, yes, God is everywhere present,
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but God is still an activity that can work to
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your consciousness and body. So when the activity is moving, well,
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this when we open ourselves to what already.
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receive the Holy Spirit.
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power that's available is because we're not doing the end
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of work that precedes the power that's right. If you
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want the power. You got to go to the Upper
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Room first.
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Yes, you do, because you cannot. There's no the only
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the only information you're going to get is from your intellect,
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and it's afraid of everything. Okay, it's gonna tell you
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all the stuff that you can't do, all the stuff
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that's not gonna work. It's not gonna tell you anything
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about how powerful you are. Yes, you got to go
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to the Upper Room. That's that high state of consciousness
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where you and God are communicating. Yes, it can't happen
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any other way.
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That's really what it's all about. Definitely, definitely.
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So we're gonna take a quick break here before we
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deal with the remaining questions. Before we take the break,
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I do want to remind the listeners that part two
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of my Prosperity the Fundamentals of New Thought webinar that
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I'm doing with the Reven Alberta Ware is May second
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at from twelve pm to two pm Central time. That's
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it'll be broadcasted live, but it'll still be on It'll
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still be available afterwards on YouTube on the YouTube channel
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for Crash. Universal Temple, which is see You Temple, see
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You in the word. Temple altogether is one word. So
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you get an opportunity to see a breakdown of the
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book Prosperity by Charles Filmore, which I've already done on
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this podcast. I did it over about a decade to go,
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but this gives you an opportunity to see it with
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power points. It gives you an opportunity to see how
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I look at it now versus a decade ago. And
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it also gives you an opportunity to get the brilliance
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of Reverend Ware's interpretation we're doing. You know, we're alternating chapters,
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so it gives us an opportunity to really flesh it out.
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Matter of fact, a listener from out of state actually
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called me to tell me that she listened to it
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three times the same day. That lets me know when
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you really want something, you put everything else down and
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you go for what you want. She's trying to get
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her understanding of what we were teaching, so she shut
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everything down and listened to it three times in the
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same day, and it was about an hour and fifty minutes.
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That's how you do it, y'all. This isn't microwave truth.
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You have to put in the work. So with that,
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we're going to take a quick break and we'll be
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right back with True Transforms.
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Hm hm hm hm.
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Welcome back to True Transforms and Reverend Gaey McDowell.
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I have as my host today.
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The Reverend Reverend Valerie McGee, and we're disgusting discussing after Easter.
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What from a metaphory, new thought Christian perspective, how do
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we work with posts Eastern stories in the Bible, What
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the disciples went through, what they did, and how does
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that relate.
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To our own spiritual growth?
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All right, so, reverd McGee, my next question is what
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is the metaphysical meaning of spreading the Gospel to all
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the nations?
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Wow, that was really a very good question to me,
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because the Gospel is from God meaning good. It's telling
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the story the good News. You see, Jesus fulfilled his
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mission and the doctrine of what he came to do.
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He fulfilled it because he spread the gospel even if
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they didn't understand what he was saying to him at
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the time he spread the gospel, he gave them the
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power to do it themselves, even if they didn't know
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it and they didn't understand what they were supposed to do.
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You see, the gospel we are to spread shares with
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all nations, meaning anybody in everybody. It doesn't matter what
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your language is, where you are in the world. Is
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that everyone can become God incarnate, God's Word may manifest.
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That's what the gospel is for us. That's how you
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spread the gospel. Just like this podcast, you are spreading
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the gospel, the word of God that I am. It's
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here right now in us. And we must go forward
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and tell the gospel, give the word from what God
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and Jesus has given us to teach people how to change.
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I love that.
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I love that, you know, because this isn't beating somebody
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up upside the head with religious dogma.
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It's telling people the presence and power of God lives
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in you. Yes, And this.
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Is how you activated, this is how you express it,
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this is how you live from that awareness.
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And I think that's helpful.
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Also, just to take it a step further, we can
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also say that this also spreading the Gospel throughout our
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own being, our own conscious and subconscious minds. You know,
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their aspects of my subconscious I know need redemption.
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Rever McGee. I might not say it, but Lord, I
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might be thinking it.
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Iand where did that come from?
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Yeah?
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Like it just pops up, like but I'm control now
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to make sure they don't come out of my mouth.
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So as we work on the aspects that we're consciously
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aware of, even aspects that are so subconscious that we
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don't know, the Gospel has to be spread to those
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thoughts and feelings, those thought people. As we were taught
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back in the day, people in the Bible symbolic are
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symbolical the thoughts and feelings that we have.
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They have to also hear the good news because.
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There's an aspect of us that are very spiritual and
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can quote the scriptures, and Charles Fillmore said this, and
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Ernest Holmes said that, but there's also some unredeemed aspects,
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those things.
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That Johnny used to talk about. With your subconscious all
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it does is record it, don't erase nothing. It's all
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in there.
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It's still in there.
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It's all in there, and it needs to be healed
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and transformed. And we're also speaking the Gospel to our bodies.
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When you pray about that body part that's acting up,
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you're spreading the Gospel to those joints, to those bones,
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to those organs, to those arteries and veins and capillaries,
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to those ligaments. That's a part of to that tissue
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is spreading the good news of the life activity of
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God in that part that's not acting the way it
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was designed to act.
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Absolutely, that's how.
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The healing work is done. We do the healing work
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by spreading the Gospel to our bodies.
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Yes, we start with ourselves.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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So next question, what does it mean metaphysically for the
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switch and focus from Peter to Paul in the.
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Book of Acts.
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Well, these answers. But I loved about me studying this
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is that it broke both of them down to their
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human self and how they changed. Okay, that's what I
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loved about it. For instance, let's start with Peter. Peter
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was a hard compact, strong, firm, unyielding. He was a rock. Metaphysically,
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he represents the spiritual faculty of faith the disciples name
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Simon means hearing, signifying his receptivity and ability to discern truth.
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That's the rock that it's built on. He represents faith
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in God, strong, unwavering, and enduring. This is the necessary
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foundation for the building up of spiritual consciousness. He typifies
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that state of unsteadiness and fluctuates from high spiritual to material.
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Didn't we know that Peter went up and down all
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the time, yet with an ever recurrent desire for spirit.
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His desire was always to be one with spirit. Peter
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often was wavering, denying one is the reality of faith
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works through the intellect and subject to all the winds
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and waves of sensed thought. However, Peter's spiritual import was
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his repeated affirmations of love, Love, as given in John
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twenty one, verses fifteen through seventeen, as that steadfast of
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faith developed through love. So until faces faith is thoroughly
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identified with the Christ, you will find that Peter, that
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your Peter faculty in you is a regular weather car.
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It will affire his allegiance to the Christ and just
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as quickly show adversity. You must stay close to Peter
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always to certain of his to remember, and to make
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sure that his elite that he has, that you have
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his allegiance and love. Now, Paul, what I loved about
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studying this was it broke it down so that we
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can apply it to ourselves as well. Paul is restrained,
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He's constrained, reduced, lessened, mate, small little Metaphysically, it's a
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different symbology and shades of meaning are given to Paul,
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and his life and ministry are bearing on the important
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work of overcoming in an individual. If Paul didn't do
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anything else, he overcame all those thoughts, all those feelings.
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He overcame them all individually. He couldn't do it for you,
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no more than you can do it for them. First,
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it was the pharaceutical state of mind, which may be
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found in one who is intellectually educated and may inherit
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his religious bias or get it from association. And the
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second way is the spiritual state of mind, which is
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found in one who attains real spiritual understanding through illumination
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by the Christ's mind. You see, we all experienced both
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of these states of mind as we do. Paul represents
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the Word of spirit of truth. But the converted Paul
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formerly Saul of Tarsus, feels a large place in biblical history.
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You see, Paul was a teacher. He was a preacher
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and an orator. He represents the expressor of the Word.
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In other words, everything he learned, he taught it so
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that we could apply it ourselves. Remember, Paul was formally
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named Saul.
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When Saul changed his mind, he became Paul in other words,
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the larger personal will was converted into the obedient servant
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of the Christ.
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What about you?
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Yeah, I love that because you know, you know, one
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of the things that again the way we teach new
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thought is when a faculty is the work that it
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needs to do at that level of our sole evolution,
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another aspect rises to take take on the new task
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of where we are at our current state. So just
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like we'll go from a Moses to a Joshua, because
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the two different aspects of consciousness don't do the same
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thing absolutely, So we develop one aspect and then something
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else has to come in and be developed on top
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of it.
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So we are.
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Stacking growth for lack of terms, and just like post Jesus,
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this is resurrection to center everything.
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We have to have faith.
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You know, I can remember you know the disciple of
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Reverendkolemy talked about the most Peter, you got to talk
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to Peter, you got to tell Peter. And she was saying,
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talk to your faith, praying your faith, get your faith
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in order, because she knew that that was primary to
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the development of the rest of our are inner faculty.
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And once that's established, then these other aspects come up
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to be either take the lead or to be cultivated.
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So just as much as we need the faith, we
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also need this aspect of the Paul that says, Okay,
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how do I spread this word of truth or spirit
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to all the aspects of my being?
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You need that too, you know. And just like.
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Paul had to deal with rebel a rousers and his
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individual churches, he had the right letters to guess, what's
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gonna happen those aspects, those thoughts, those feelings, those beliefs.
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I thought, people, they're gonna raise some hell to sometimes.
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And it's and it's the word of spirit.
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It's the word of truth that has to address and
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get those thoughts, those feelings, those beliefs back in alignment.
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It's something else, a matter of interpretation of the Bible.
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I think it's the best thing since slice break.
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Yes, it is. What I liked about Paul was when
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it talked about Remember Paul was formally named Saul, but
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when Saul changed his mind, he became Paul. In other words,
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that's what we're doing too. As we grow spiritually, as
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we go grow metaphysically more understanding and knowing what the
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Christ is and how we're working with it. We changed too.
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We get rid of that big will, that personal will,
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and let the servant, the guy and you come forth
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and do what it's supposed to do.
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Yes, yes, when we change, When we change, when we change,
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and the name has to change because the nature name
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means nature metaphysically.
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So Abram becomes Abraham, you know.
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And Simon becomes Peter or Simon Peter, and Saul becomes Paul.
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You can't because once you've changed, your name or your
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nature or your.
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Essential character has to change. So that's a beautiful thing.
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And we still see this today and him and in
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many religious groups and uh and denominations. When someone changes
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or they become a part of a new thing, they
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change their name, and God bless them, you know. And
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I can remember being a young man watching the clip
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on TV of Muhammad Ali fighting the guy who refused
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to call him Muhammad Ali. And he's beating the guy saying,
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say my name. I'm not saying telling people to go
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out there and do that. The point was he was
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trying to explain to the person, I'm not Leuil Sender anymore.
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And you refuse not, Louis said, excuse me, cash Is
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Clay Luis yeah, I'm like, excuse me, Yeah, I jumped,
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I jump names.
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You know.
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The guy refused to call him Muhammad Ali. He only
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wanted to call him Castus Clay to insult him. But
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because Muhammad Ali had left the identity of Cassius Clay,
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he wanted to be acknowledged as the person he is now,
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not who he.
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Was, And therefore that.
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He does make a difference.
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It makes a difference, all right?
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Last question? Sure, can we experience the Kingdom of God now?
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And why? If so? Why?
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Okay? The kingdom kingdom is of God of heaven. The
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Kingdom of Heaven is the orderly adjustment of divine ideas
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in man's mind and body. Jesus did it. In order
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to find this kingdom, man must become conscious, that means
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aware of divine mind, God Mind and its realm of
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divine ideas, and be willing to adjust his thoughts to
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the divine standards. Why when man adjusts his thought world
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to the kingdom of divine ideas through the process of denial,
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by which he eliminates from his consciousness his awareness all
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in harmonies, all in harmonious ideas, and through affirmations of
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truth by which he established himself in harmony with divine ideas.
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Then we realize that heaven is not confined to man's
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consciousness awareness, for the Kingdom is everywhere present, all right.
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You know, Jesus told people that, you know, Luke, Chapter seventeen,
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verse twenty twenty one. Yes, the Kingdom of God comes
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down by observation. Can't say, look is over here, look
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is over there? For behold, the Kingdom of God is
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within you. It what funny is a lot of the
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modern translations they translate that the Kingdom of God is
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among you, which is still accurate.
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But then you look in the footnotes and it says
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within you.
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In other words, this could be translated either way and
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it would still be accurate because sometimes people have a
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hard time recognizing, Okay, I could go with this among us,
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but telling me that it's within me, that this.
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Power I've done and do, yeah, yes, yes.
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Yes, And and that's one of the central components of
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why we teach this a new thought. You know, I
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can remember, you know, many years ago that was down
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on I think it's eighth and Michigan by Chicago Ideas,
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and I was a part of a panel.
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With a different religious leader.
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It was a, it was some more from Islam, it
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was a Pentecostal Christian, it was an atheist, and it
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was somebody else. And our friend Reva Lolawright was a
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moderator and she was asking us different questions, and they
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brought in students from Columbia College. So of course I'm
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representing new Thought and I'm trying to explain the distinction
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between new Thought and others. And one of the how
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I came up with it was I said, I said,
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many religions will teach you that there's something wrong with you.
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They have to convince you that there's a problem, that
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there's something wrong with you, and that they have the
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only solution. I said, it's like a doctor convincing you
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that you're sick and telling you that only they have
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the medicine. You can't get the medicine from anyone else.
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And I said, new thought starts from the premise that
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there's something radically right about you you, and we're going
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to teach you how to discover it an unfold.
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That's actually where that.
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Term, I'm sure people you've heard it now circulating that
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radically right. I literally made it up on the spot
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because I was trying to explain new thought to nineteen
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year old.
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Let's see, that was just God, Yes, verting it to
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the language that work. Right, Okay, So it was already there.
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It's just that you found the way to contact it
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and get it out there the way it needed to
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be out there.
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Yes, trying to explain people. The power is already available
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to you. Yes, it's accessible to you. Now you got
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to do your inner work. Absolutely, absolutely, the Kingdom of
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God is not for sale. It's not an intellectual thing.
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That's right, and can't nobody give it to you?
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And can't no one to give it to you? So
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do the work. I'm hoping that this Easter series is
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after Easter. What series will give you an opportunity to
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go back and read those post resurrection stories in the
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four Gospels and then read the Book of Acts, and
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you'll see the evolution of your own consciousness, not just
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these characters in the Bible.
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Because now you have some insight on.
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Jesus or Peter or Paul, on the Upper Room, on
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the ascension, on the Pentecost or resurrection. It gives you
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an opportunity now to look at it differently. So when
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you read it, you're recognizing that you're only reading about
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your own soul growth.
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Yes, that's what I got out of all of it.
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I mean, I wasn't sure how any of it was
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going to come together. I just knew what God was
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giving me, and it was all about my understanding and
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my change, yes, and how I can change and become
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all that I was created to be.
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Yeah, all right, well, I thank you so much for
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doing this. I'm actually eager I won't be here to
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hear Reverend Ross. I'll be preaching a Unity of Chicago
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for the next couple of Sundays as the guest speaker
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Way Up or Way North on the North Side. But
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obviously I'll check it out on YouTube later because I
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want to see how what he will add to what
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we have done already, because God is limitless in ways
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of empowering people with.
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The exact same thing.
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Absolutely all right, So listeners, thank you for listening, and
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I'll be with you next week with Truth Transforms.
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God bless
