Rob McConnell Interviews - PHILL WEBSTER - Communicating with the Dead

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Now here's your host, Rob a coon.
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Waiting at the music stars strange, just making the most
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you the smoky can't you feel musday? You're so close?
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Fun time.
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But that's for another show. My guest this hour is
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someone whose story you will resonate with anyone who has
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ever faced lost, asked what lies beyond, or search for
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the light in the darkest of places. Phil Webster is
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his name, and Phil is a British author, actor and
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spiritual explorer who's profound journey through grief led him to
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a stunning spiritual awakening. Through was best selling books Letting
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Glow and Glowing Deeper, Phil invites readers into his world
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of mediumship, past live, synchronicity, and the continuation of consciousness
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beyond death. What began as a personal search for answers
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has become a passionate mission to help others reconnect with
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the eternal bonds of love, soul, and spirit. You can
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learn more about Phil and his work by visiting his
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website at Phil Webster dot com and that's p h
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I L l W E B S t e r
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dot com. Tonight, we'll explore life after loss, spiritual connection,
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and the glowing truth of a truth about who and
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what we really are. Joining me from the other side
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of the great Great Pond in the United Kingdom is
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Phil Webster. And Phil, thank you so much for your
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patience and thank you so much for joining us tonight.
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Hey, well, nice to be back. Thank you for inviting me. Phil.
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For those of who you know of our listening audience
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who is unfamiliar with your story, what life event catalyzed
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your spiritual awakening, Well.
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There was a major one, the loss of my mom,
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I've had a couple of things along the way that
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I didn't really recognize as spiritual awakenings, I guess if
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you could call them that. But yeah, there was definitely
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a catalyst what sent me down as rabbit hole, and
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that was losing my mom at the start of twenty
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twenty one, and it we'd just been through the whole
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COVID pandemic and all that kind of stuff, and I
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hadn't seen it for a while, and we would FaceTime
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every day, and on this particular I hadn't seen them
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for maybe a couple of months or something like that,
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and I was trying to do the right thing, trying
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to keep away through COVID and all the rest of it. Anyway,
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she answered the phone, and as she answered the phone,
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there was a man sort of leaning in the screen
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from the other side of it, and I saw him
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long enough that I could describe and me had thinning,
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great hair, glasses, look like he was in his mid
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to late sixties. And as she moved the phone, he
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went out of shop, and I said to my mum,
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I was like, well, who's that. I think we were
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in another lockdown at the time. There shouldn't have been
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anyone there, and she said who's what, which kind of
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threw me off because I've just seen the guy. And
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I said, well, the guy who's in the house. And
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it was quite late at night, it was like ten
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thirty or something like that. She lived in a very
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rural place and she she said, no, there's no one here,
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and she just kind of dismissed me and started talking
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about her day. I interrupted her a couple of more times,
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and she she was like, no, you know, there's no
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one here, and I didn't want to freak her out,
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and it kind of threw me off because I was like, well,
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I believed her that there was no one there. I
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could all tell when there was someone there. She would
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put on my airs and graces and speak a lot
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posher and I could never get a stray conversation out
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of her. She wasn't doing any of that, so it
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has kind of dismissed it. And we spoke for another
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forty five minutes or so. I went to bed that night.
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I was in London, by the way. She lived on
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a place called the Isle of White, which is about
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three hours away, and the next morning I got a
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call that she had a heart attack and well, first of.
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All, my condolence is on the loss of your mom, because.
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That, yeah, it's you know, I mean, a lot of
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us have been through it, and you kind of, you know,
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you expect that your parents are probably going to go
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before you. But even so, it's still, you know, it's taken. It.
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It's taken as toll, but you know, about four years
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on now, I'm kind of a you know, moving on
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with life. But but yeah, it's you know, this next morning,
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full of the grief and the shock and everything that
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comes with that. My mind kept going back to, well,
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what was that then, you know, and I was kind
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of I wasn't. I was kind of on the fence
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with sort of supernatural stuff, and I speak to some
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people about it, and the sort of most my more
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skeptical friends would be like, well, how do you know
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there was no one there? You know? And I can't
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one percent say there was absolutely no one there, whereas
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my other sort of group of friends were like, well,
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that was that was a spirit guide, That was somebody
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letting you know or you know, a family member or
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something like that. And as I kind of thought it through,
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that seemed to be the logical conclusion. Oddly, Yeah, what.
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Was your belief system like before all of this began.
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Were you skeptical? Spiritual? Religious?
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Definitely didn't grow up religious. I was kind of interested
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in supernatural things for one of a better term. When
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I was a kid, as I suppose a lot of
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kids are. I grew up in the eighties, so we
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had like ghostbusters all that stuff. As I got older
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into my mid thirties, I grew a lot more sin.
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I traveled a lot. I lived abroad for around twenty years.
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I ended up running bars and clubs, and with that
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lifestyle sort of came a very cynical attitude to see
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people at their worst all the time and anytime I
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was sort of think a bit deeper with which wasn't
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much at the time. I kind of was on the fence.
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I was thinking, well, I don't know, are we just
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biological walking you know, neurons or ye know? Or is
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there something more? So I was kind of it wasn't
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something that I'd really been paying attention to, but you know,
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this experience really sent me down a complete different direction
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into a rabbit hole and looking at other things that
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had happened over the years. It seemed that every few years,
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some odd thing would happen that I would dismiss and
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not really attribute to anything spiritual, but look back, looking
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back on it through a different lens of what I
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was looking through. Now these odd things that had happened
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over the years made a lot more sense Now.
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Was the passing of your mom the only event that
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I have a loss that you had in this period
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that you believe opened up the door to the spiritual
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experiences that you had.
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Well, there'd been a couple of others leading up to that,
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but I hadn't recognized them as spiritual experiences. One profound one,
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which is it? I mean, it's kind of a strange story.
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So I during that time that I was telling you about,
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I woke up one morning. I was again working in
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bars and clubs, and I was mid thirties, and I
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just to put that in context, I'm fifty this year,
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and I remember waking up one morning and just kind
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of just musing over the idea that we only have
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the moment of now, right, And it wasn't too deep.
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It's something that I thought of before, and something that
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we've all come across, you know, people have wrote books
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about it, People talk about living in the moment of
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now and all that kind of stuff. But as I
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lay there thinking about it, something shifted and it was
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almost like physically, it was like a physical shift. It
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was very profound, and it was I can't explain that.
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I think people talk about depersonalization experiences. It was something
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akin to that. All of a sudden, sort of linear
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time just fell away, and I suddenly felt just acutely
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aware of the moment of now. And it just sounds
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it's really difficult to describe and make it sound like
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I'm not just rambling nonsense.
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But oh, come on, you're here in the X zone.
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We don't think that way.
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Having good company. But it was as though linear time
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just fell away all of a sudden. I couldn't like
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the past seemed absurd, and sort of thinking about what
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I was going to do later that day just just
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seemed like it didn't make sense. All of a sudden,
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I just I was suddenly like now and there was
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nothing else, and it was you know again, people talk
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about living in the moment of now. It was like
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that times a thousand, and it was terrifying, I have
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to say, And I know other people have talked about this,
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as Eckhart Toll is a book about a similar experience.
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But yeah, this this thing just kept going on, and
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it went on all day and and I and it
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was terrifying. And then it kept going on and on,
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and at about the month mark, I kind of thought
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it was losing my mind. I couldn't sort of just
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drift off into my thoughts like we all all do
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all day every day. It was just kind of like now, now, now,
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And it was exhausting. I ended up going to a
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doctor and the doctor started using words like psychosis. They
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gave me a bunch of meds like anti anxiety pill,
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sleeping pills, stuff like that, which didn't really touch it.
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And about a couple more months in, I've just this
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experience just nonstops, relentless kind of ultimate awareness. It was
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almost like stepping into an ultimate reality, you know, but
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it sat it felt so acute that that it was
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just more that I could handle. Anyway, cut a long
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story short. I went I found a therapist. And what
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attracted to me to this to go see this therapist
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was that he was a hypnotist. So I went along
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and I was like, can you just like hypnotize this away?
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I don't know what the hell's going on with me.
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I was literally at the end of my rope not
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to go down a dark turn, but I really thought, well,
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if this is the way my brain's working now, I'm
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out of it. Like this doesn't work for me. And
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again I wasn't attributing this to anything spiritual or anything
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like that. So he listened to my story. He explained
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he couldn't hypnotize me because it hypnotism doesn't work like
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that and with what was going on with me, and
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he used an odd word and he said, well, I
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believe that you are mystic. And I was like, well,
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what the hell does that mean. I didn't really care.
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I just wanted this thing to stop. Sure, and he
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started talking about shamanism and all these things that I
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wasn't interested in or bursting at all at the time.
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He gave me a very basic grounding meditation and it
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brought me.
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Back the phill. Are you there?
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You look at it?
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Yeah? So, yeah, we lost you there for a second,
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but you're back.
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Ah sorry, okay, So yeah, where we lost you was
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that you know, you're you were told that you were
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a mystic and you couldn't understand that we're buying too
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that rate or in it, and that's where weled.
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Yeah, you know, he started talking about shamanism and all
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these things that I wasn't versed in at all, and
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and he gave me a very basic grounding guided meditation,
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which brought me back almost instantly. So it did, you know,
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anything that the mets that I've been taking didn't touch.
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Just the simple meditation just brought me back all of
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a sudden. I was, you know, part of the herd again,
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and online or offline, depending how you look at it.
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And and very gradually, I, you know, sort of came
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back with a very different outlook on life. But as
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soon as it got through it, I just kind of
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put it behind me. And then there was only since
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exploring spiritual practices, since writing these books, that this kind
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of thing came up quite a lot. And when I
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wrote about it that experience, I had a few people
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get in touch and say, okay, I went through something
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like that too, And it did resonate and seemed to
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be in line with a lot of spiritual teaching, especially
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about shamanism, where somebody would kind of go to the
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edge of madness and then that would be the medicine
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person that people would go to and you know.
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Welcome back everyone. Phil Webster is my very special guest
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at this hour www dot Phil Webster dot com. That's
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p H I L. L. Webster dot com. I feel
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what made you decide to document your experiences and eventually
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become an author?
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So I'd always assume that I'd write something at some
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point I've dabbled with writing fiction or something for the
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years and then never really finished anything, and it just
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seemed like the natural thing to do. For some reason.
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I just started specifically learning about mediumship excuse me to
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start with, and I just thought I'd just document the
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journey in real time. Really, so I kind of went
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into this or into that arena, I should say, somewhat skeptical,
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despite obviously wanting to you, hoping that I could hear
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from my mum right that was the catalyst of the
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whole thing. I just kind of wrote about the whole
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experience along the way and kind of the first book,
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Letting Glows, starts out somewhat on the fence, and by
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the time it's finished, it has so many experiences, amazing
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experiences are through learning about mediumship that I was like, Okay,
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this is a real thing. And then by the time
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I finished writing the first book, I've learned so much
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that I had another book in me, so I just
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went ahead and wrote the second one.
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You say that your awakening wasn't just emotional, but multi dimensional.
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Can you explain that?
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I wish I could. That seems to be something that
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I often come back to, especially the whole moment of
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now thing. I've as much as i've you know, people
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are often interested in mediumship and you know, life after
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death and all that, and I feel that that's really
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what attracted me to everything. But beyond that, I just
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keep coming back to this experience that i'd had, and
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it sort of ties in, you know, when you're meditating
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and you're getting in touch with spirit guys and all
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this kind of stuffing, being able to be really present
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is really key. And I feel that I had a
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very unique experience that I was telling you about earlier,
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and I think that's it. You know, I mean not
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to go to out there, but I feel that the
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likelihood that we're experiencing ultimate reality right, that we're aware
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of actual truth, is probably like zero. And I really
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feel that there's more how can I put it, information
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in the conscious moment of now, like in the exact moment,
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than there is in you know, thinking about the past
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or worrying about the future. And we rarely experienced this,
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and you know, it's not our fault. Obviously, we're you know,
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we're physical beings. We have to go about our business,
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we have to pay the bills. You can't, you know,
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set a new TV up with intuition or whatever. You know,
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We've got to live in the practical, but I feel
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that there is just peeling back a couple of layers
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and even just looking at time, you know, and this
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thing that we deal with all day long trying to
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explain that is nuts, right, It's something beyond what we
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can comprehend. So I feel, yeah, that we are living
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on multi dimensions at the whole time, but we've just
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kind of got used to the practical side.
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How did mediumship become a part of your life, a
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big part of your life? And how did you know
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it just wasn't your imagination?
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That's a good question, and that's a lot of things
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that things that people that start learning about medium should
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have to That's kind of one of the first hurdles,
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you know, to trust that what you get is not
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just yourself making it up. After losing my mum and
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kind of one of one. I've read a book by
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a lady called Claire Broad who's since gone on to
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be my teacher. She's still my teacher, and it was
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kind of an interesting story because I just picked this
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book up. I didn't know where Claire was from. She
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could have been in the UK, she could have been
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in the States or wherever. And the first story in
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her book of how she became a medium took place
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across the street from where I was living at the time,
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which was kind of like a wild coincidence. She'd had
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this experience in a cemetery as a little girl, and
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I could literally look out of my window and see
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the cemetery she was talking about in this in this book,
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which at the time I thought, well, that's a weird coincidence.
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And you know, since then, there's been there's been a lot.
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But yeah, she was really sort of my introduction to mediumship.
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And I went along to a spiritualist church, the kind
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of tenor penny around here. I never didn't know that
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they existed, but essentially every week there's a medium giving
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a demonstration of mediumship, usually on a Sunday, and you
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can just show up and the medium will go around
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the congregation and be like, Okay, well, I've got a
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gentleman that looks like this might be your grandfather, et cetera,
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et cetera, doing what mediums do. And very quickly, on
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my first time that I went to one of these places,
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I got a message from my mom and what really
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was again another another kind of catalyst for me was
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that the medium she had a very strong London accent,
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and her accent changed and she started speaking with the
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Northern accent, which is what my mum had, and it
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was essentially my mom's voice coming out of her. And
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that was to me, was just you know, the game changer.
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That was like, oh, okay, this this stuff's real.
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Yeah, how did you feel, you know, like, here's your
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mom communicating through this person in her voice from the
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other side.
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean that that was really it. Like, Oddly,
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despite learning about all this stuff, and this was probably
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about two months, two or three months after my mom
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I'd passed, and I've been reading these books and I
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think i'd met Claire who I mentioned, who wrote the book.
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I've gone to a workshop of hers or something like that.
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But for some reason, I was still really skeptical about
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this stuff. And I still am, to be honest with you, like,
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even all the I like experienced like amazing things, but
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I'm still like, after a bit of times gone by,
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I'm still like, really, did that really happen? You know,
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I can't help it. But yeah, going back to that experience.
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I mean that that was just I mean it was
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literally life changing. You know that this person I just
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walked into that place, nobody knew I was going there.
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I've never met this lady before who was given the
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demonstration of mediumship, and you know, there was no way
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that she knew anything to do with my story. And
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just the fact that her whole accent changed, that was just, yeah,
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life changing.
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How do you connect with the other side? Does it
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take you a long time? How do those on the
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other side know that you, Phil Webster are trying to
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communicate with them? How does it work?
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I believe that that it's always They are always around
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us on some sort of frequency, and I think that
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some of us are more I think that we're old
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attuned to it, but some of us are. You know
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a lot of people use this example of somebody being
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able to draw better than somebody else, or someone can
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play guitar better than someone else, and that some of
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us seem to have this kind of antenna or Wi
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Fi signal that seems to be stronger than it is
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in others. And I feel that, you know, you can
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tune in, And I think really meditation is the key
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to just be able to sit back in silence. And
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one of the one of the things that I often
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talk about is being able to step back from your thoughts,
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and especially in meditation, and this is just beneficial across
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the board, whether you're interested in mediumship or not. I
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believe if you can just take a moment with yourself
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through the day and be able to step back from
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your thoughts and recognize that you're not your thoughts, that
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you're observe in your thoughts, right, you know that you
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don't have to react to all this jumbled stuff that's
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just constantly coming at you. But anyway, when you learn
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to distinguish the difference between that, then I believe that
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opens up the space in between where you recognize when
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something new comes in and you realize that that's not you.
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You know, that's not you observing, that's not whatever's going
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on over here thinking about the dishes or going to
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work or whatever it is. But there's a space in
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between where something else comes in and then you start
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to recognize that that's a different voice. How it worked,
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I know how to make it work. How it works,
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I have no idea.
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Do you believe in your heart of hearts? That you
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are a very gifted person to be able to communicate
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those on the other side and help so many people
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with their grief and allowing them to communicate with the
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other side, to people that have left this side of
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the veil and gone to the other side, and give
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them a final goodbye that they may have never had
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the opportunity to before.
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I mean, for me personally grieving and missing my mom,
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that that was beyond anything that I could have, you
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know it, it was again, it was life changing. And
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I had more of these confirmations that my mum was
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around and that and so you know that, really that
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was really what I needed to know, and that's really
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what I was getting into mediumship for in the first place.
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I'm still I don't consider myself I'm not a practicing medium.
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I do, I do work with people on a daily basis,
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but mediumship comes into it. But I would say, and
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I hate the word psychic or the name psychic, but
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I would say that's kind of more my field or
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my area. Aspects of mediumship do come into it. There's definitely,
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you know, way better mediums than me out there, despite
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writing these two books in it. But I yeah, I
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feel that it's that it that it is hugely beneficial.
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I don't think that any of us are sort of
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you know people that I mean, there are some amazing
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medium mediums out there. I don't consider myself one of them.
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But yeah, I just write in the first book my
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thoughts were, if this could help somebody that's going through
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a spiritual awakening or has just lost somebody and then
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this makes sense to them, then that's like the best
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thing that could come from it, you know.
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You know, I'd like to just agree with you on something, Phil, Yeah,
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and that is I can't communicate with the other side
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people that the majority of the people I know. In fact,
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i'd say ninety nine point of the people that I
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know can't communicate with the other side. So I believe
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that you are a very gifted medium, and that in
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my books there's no such thing as a bad medium,
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a medium medium, or a great medium. Anyone who can
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communicate with the other side of my books, and I'm
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sure that this applies to the rest of society, is
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all the same. That you have an ability, a gift
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that many wish they had, but here you are Phil
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Webster who has it. So you know what I admire you,
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and that's it.
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Well, thank you. I mean, I think I'm still, like
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I say, I feel like I'm just constantly learning about
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this stuff and looking at some of the I mean,
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I've been lucky enough to work with some of the
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world's best mediums. Gordon Smith is somebody over this this
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side of the pond. I'm not sure if you guys
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are too aware of him. James Van Prow, I think
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you have over there. We definitely have over there. And
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then Claire broad So watching those people in action, you
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know that I'm I'm right at the beginning of this journey.
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And again, I feel that that we all do have
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the ability to explore this to varying degrees of success,
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and some people are going to excel at it and
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others it will be more of a struggle. But I
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feel that that we can all do it. It's just
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we're just wrapped up in, you know, concentrating on the
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practicalities of life, which we have to again, you know,
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we're in this, that's what this thing is. But yeah,
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I feel that we all have the ability to do it.
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I disagree that there are some mediums that walking around,
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you know, walk around saying that they were born with it.
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It's a gift and they're sort of exceptional. But I
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feel that we can all we can all do it,
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but you know.
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It takes some time, all right, Please stand by, Phil,
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You and I have to take our break at the
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bottom of the hour and explanation. If you'd like to
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find out more about our guest tonight, well, I believe
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is a very well established medium. Hey, the first time
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I've disagreed with a guest tonight. Visit this website at
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www dot Phil Webster dot com. And don't forget Phil
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is p h I L L Webster dot com. This
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is the excell and I'm Rob McConnell and Phil Webster
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and I will return on the other side of this
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short break. Don't go away.
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Wait at the music Stars strangers making a stover dot
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to that bodies become I see you the sulky, can't
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you feel? I want to be free, like the blue.
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Boot flying by, like the waves, the blue scene. If
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you love has to dome me filch.
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Saycodbye, be free, don't see love explanation.
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Phil Webster is my very special guest at this hour.
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His website is www dot Phil Webster dot com. That's
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filled with two l's p.
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H I L L.
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Webster dot com Phil that song I Want to Be Free.
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There's a there's a there's a phrase there, or there's
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a lyric there that says, never say goodbye. As a
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as a medium who's able to communicate with the other side,
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do we ever say goodbye? Or is it that those
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who have left this side of the veil just aren't
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recognized on this side once they passed over, and they're
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always with us.
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I think that's it. I mean, I think you you
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you described it already. Yeah, I think that's exactly what's
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going on. I think that the Iowa was around and
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when we reach out that it is as simple as that,
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that that they're aware of it. That's that's been my experience.
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And then that first year after losing my mom, you know,
519
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I was desperate to have those experiences, and yeah, I
520
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.640
definitely got some quite strong affirmations that she was there
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and not just through a sense of just feeling that
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the person's around. And I think that that's a thing,
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you know, asolutely if you you know, we feel the
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ones that we've lost around us. But yeah, when you
525
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really do start exploring this, then then the science do
526
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become very apparent.
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Yeah, would you say that, based on the conversations that
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you have had on the other side, that we should
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fear death or is it that we just totally misunderstand
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what death is?
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Yeah? Again, I think I think that for whatever reason
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it is that we that we don't understand what it is.
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That being said, again, some of those mediums that I
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mentioned earlier, that's sort of clear about it, and she's
535
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she's quite sudden of of what's going on over there.
536
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I'm still learning about this stuff. But yeah, I think
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you know that that's simply the case that that we
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don't that this beyond that comprehension, and that well, it's
539
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not beyond that comprehension. I mean, plenty of people talk
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about near death experiences and people across the board essentially
541
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talk about the same experience, Right, So I think that
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that we've got that. But for whatever reason, whatever, whatever
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this this thing is, there's a block on it, and
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we kind of hit a wall and can't kind of
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wrap our heads around that. And I think that even
546
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even mediums as we understand it and the information that
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we get, I'm not convinced that everyone's right about that.
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I think it's you know, it's filter through us, filter
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through this understanding that we have. So I don't think
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that every girl or every medium is absolutely one hundred
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percent correct. I think they're correct to the extent that
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we can grasp it.
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Yeah, where how does one's belief in a certain religious
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philosophy work when it comes to the other side? Does
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it matter if you're Christian, if you're Muslim, if you're Buddhist.
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Well, I think just nay. You mentioned that. A good
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example again is when people talk about near deathics experiences.
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Was it, well, I forget his name, so Raymond Moody, right,
559
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he was kind of a pioneer of writing the first
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real accounts of this in the seventies, and and that
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was one observation that he meant that, you know, no
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matter what people's backgrounds, no matter what what countries he
563
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went to, it was pretty much the same story. Okay,
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so people might have talked about their gods, you know,
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their their their different deities, deities for forgive me a
566
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cont pronounce that, but essentially it was the same story,
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you know, life review and meeting their loved ones on
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the other side, and then of course they'd come back
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and tell us about it. So I think that that
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that kind of answers that for me.
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Yeah, you know, I, as as we know, you often
572
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speak about life after death as you just did. How
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certain are you that consciousness actually does survive the physical death?
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I mean, as a certain certain excuse me, as certain
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as anyone can be. I suppose, in with the you know,
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the position that we're in at the moment, the experiences
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that I've had, I can only talk about my own experiences, right,
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and and you know, of course I've read a lot
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of compelling evidence, and I've told to people that that
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I trust that that have taught me about this whole arena.
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But yeah, that that one thing that I keep coming
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back to is that I can only talk about my
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own experiences, and from everything that I've experienced, it seems
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there's something to this. You know. I know that I'm
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not making this stuff up. A lot of it's very subject,
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but a lot of it's very personal. And trying to
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describe it to somebody else, I totally get it because
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a few years ago, I wasn't I wasn't on, but
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I would have been skeptical about this as well. But yeah,
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speaking from personal experience. I'm enough things have happened that
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I'm quite convinced that this is all real.
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I have have you discovered about sure contracts? And what,
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in your opinion, is our purpose here on earth.
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I think that we come here with an agenda. I
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think that there is some sort of overview, there is
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some sort of blueprint, like a bigger picture, and that
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reincarnation is part of it. That we come back and
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we likely what we didn't learn in the last one,
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that we're gonna keep repeating that until we until we've
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figured out what that that is. I think that the
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people along the journey are doing the same thing, and
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that and that there is that there is some sort
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of sole agreement, that the guides are there as well
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to be part of that, that they know what that
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is also and hopefully sort of guide us in the
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right direction. I think that's the most basic explanation I
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can come up with. And and you know, I'm not
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the first person to talk about it, obviously, but again
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I can't help. But you know, the skeptical part of
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me is like, is that really the truth? I feel
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that that's as close as we can get to understanding it.
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And I think that that's that's probably like the best,
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you know, the most beautiful model that we can come
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up with.
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Yeah, once again, based on your own personal experiences, your
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own personal belief do our loved ones communicate with us
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more often than we realize?
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Yeah? I believe that they do. When I started taking
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stock of these things, and there's things that's happened that
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that I dismissed at the time, and then later on
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went back to it and I thought, Okay, maybe if
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maybe that actually was that, you know, and I'm sort
623
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of going off track a little bit here, but one
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interesting thing that I that that's kind of in line
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with that was that I was I hadn't been to
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a spiritualist church for a long time, and I went
627
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to show my face at one a few weeks ago,
628
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and there's a lady there doing the demonstration of mediumship,
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and she was kind of everyone was in agreement, you know,
630
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she was bringing people's grandparents stuff like this, and she
631
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kept talking about one lady that nobody was recognizing, and
632
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she was specific and I can talk about this. The
633
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person I know wouldn't involve wouldn't mind me talking about this.
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She kept talking about a lady in a blue dress
635
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that had died in hospital, and she died with a
636
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with she she put it through essentially through mental illness
637
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that was bought on by neglects, like by physical neglects. Anyway,
638
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nobody was taking this and she she sort of gave
639
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up with it. I went home that night and I
640
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had a client, one of my online clients, and we
641
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went through what we went through and talked about his
642
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personal life and things like that, and towards the end
643
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of the reading, he told me that he had just
644
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lost his sister who had recently died in hospital, and
645
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and and and everything that he said like correlated with
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what the medium said about the circumstances amount up passing.
647
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And I bought up the blue dress, and he was like,
648
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well we buried her in a blue dress, Oh wow,
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which was to me was amazing, you know, because he
650
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wasn't he hadn't been there with me at the time.
651
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But clearly that message was for him, and that message
652
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was for me to take home to him. So however
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this whole thing works, you know, his sister knew that
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I was going to be there and that I was
655
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going to relate that message back to him, which happens
656
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a lot when you get into this this arena. But
657
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but yeah, I believe that they are constantly trying to
658
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communicate with us.
659
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Yeah, what's the most incredible personal validation you've ever received
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from spirit besides the one that you described to us earlier.
661
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I've had a lot in the early days when I
662
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was learning about mediumship. I was trying to do all
663
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the right things. I was meditating every day, I was
664
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I was reading all the books I was supposed to read,
665
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you know, learning from these amazing teachers. And I felt
666
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like I'd had a wall. And there was one particular night,
667
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although I was really missing my mum. I was at
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her house and I've gone for a walk that evening
669
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and I maybe had a bottle of wine or something
670
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like that. I was really upset. I was sitting on
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the beach, I was crying, and I was just kind
672
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of asking. I was like, Okay, so if this is
673
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a real thing, if if I've got spirit guides around
674
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me and all this stuff, what's what's the big secret?
675
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What I'm doing everything right, I'm meditating, I'm you know,
676
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I'm doing everything by the book that I can to
677
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sort of get more validation. And I had had validation already,
678
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but I needed more. And I was I was sitting
679
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on the beach and I was sitting next to a
680
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cafe that was shut up for the winter, and it
681
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had like a board outside, like a chalkboard, right, And
682
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as I was sitting down and I was upset, and
683
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I was looking around, and I was like, just give
684
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me some sort of sign. I looked at this board
685
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and I mean, I mean, this doesn't sound believable even
686
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:49.920
when I say, but my name was wrote on there
687
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in chalk, Phil, and all around it it said Hi,
688
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as in you know, the greeting is in hello, like high,
689
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and it said it all over and it said Phil
690
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high high high high everywhere. And just at the second
691
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that I've been like, okay, I need something. I need
692
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a sign, right, and you know, there was a literal sign. Now,
693
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I don't believe that some piece of chalk magic magically
694
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wrote my name in that moment. Maybe somebody had wrote
695
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it earlier that day. But I've been taken to that
696
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spot where you know, where i'd get that validation. That
697
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was a pretty crazy one for me.
698
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.679
That seems rather incredible, and I would certainly take it
699
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as a sign.
700
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Yeah, I mean, I took a photo of it. But
701
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you know, again learning about mediumship, sitting with like sort
702
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of practicing with clients and then telling then them things
703
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that I know I absolutely didn't know. I mean that
704
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:46.239
those things have been quite you know, I've known there's
705
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no way that I could have come up with those things,
706
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.199
and they've come through, however they come through, And to
707
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.039
have people say, yeah, I know who you're talking about. That,
708
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that's kind of amazing.
709
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Phil. Have you ever been afraid of what you've experienced
710
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or encountered in your spiritual journey?
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I haven't so one of my teachers. Again, going back
712
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to Claire, I've talked to her at length about this,
713
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and she's of the opinion that I'm possibly naive about it.
714
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I'm not scared of that. You know, if we're talking
715
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that we're all consciousness or spirits or whatever however you
716
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want to describe it, then I'm already that right. So
717
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why would I be afraid of that just because especially
718
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if I can't sit right? You know what I mean.
719
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I don't believe in I don't believe in the devil.
720
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I don't believe in hell or demons or anything like that.
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I mean, I think that there is definitely negative energy,
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and that absolutely people bring that and you can feel that,
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you know, if you walk into a room where someone's
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had an argument or any of those kind of cliches.
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But I feel that as long as you go in
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with the right intention, I've never yeah, I think that
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we get out, we get back what we put out, right,
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So if you're going in there with good intention, you're
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going to bring good intention. Yeah.
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You mentioned synchronicity is quite often. What's one that stood
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out as a turning point in your life?
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Synchronicities? Yeah, hmm. I think meeting again, meeting Claire picking
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up that book. She could have been from anywhere in
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the world. And then her you know, the first book,
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the first story in her book took across took place
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across the street from where I live. And then meeting
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her and she she essentially lived down the road that that.
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You know, she's become a very good friend, a teacher,
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she's she's really been massively part of this journey for me.
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So just the coincidence around that she could again, she
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could have been Australian, she could in Canada.
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Okay, stand by for a second, I've got to take
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a break. I was so involved in your story that
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I missed my producer's que So we'll be back on
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the other side of this break. Whatever you do, don't
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go away.
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I thought I saw a man or to lie. He
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was warm, he came around like he was dignify. He
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showed me a lot of was to cry where you
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couldn't be that man.
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I don't.
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You don't seem to know, seem to care, but your
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heart is born. I don't know him anymore. It's not
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anywhere you used to lie. Conversation has one life. That's
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what's going on. Nothing's fin answer.
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Say, welcome back everyone. This is the ex Soon. I'm
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Rob McConnell or coming to you from our broadcast center
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in studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario of Canada and on
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the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network and x
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Own Broadcast Network. I guess this hour is Phil Webster
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p H I L. L Webster dot com is the
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website address. And you know, one of the questions that
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that I've heard from people who are mediums and who
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are psychic. So's something called a grief hallucination. Now, how
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do you how do you distinguish filled between grief hallucinations
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and genuine contact from spirit.
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That's the time I've never heard before. Funnily enough, I
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can I can only only assume that it's, you know,
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along the lines of grieving so badly that you that
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you you know, see what you want to see you
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and you hear what you want to hear. And I
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suppose that's a big argument, especially from skeptics, that of course,
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if you're looking for something, then you're going to find it, right.
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So if you if you're looking for white feathers every
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day and you're going to see a white feather, right,
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and those are a pretty common one. I'm not convinced
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that every white feather that I see when I walk
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down the street is a sign for my mum, right,
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you know, who knows what's been happening. But yeah, I
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mean I can understand the argument with that. The I've
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definitely had a lot of experience that a lot of
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you know, signs for that that could be or could
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not be. And I think that if you choose to
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take it as if it comforts you, then why not
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you know what's wrong with that? If if you if
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a song comes on the radio and that was your
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partner's favorite song or what or whoever it is that
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you've lost, you know, and you get some comfort out
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of that, then I think, why not I think potentially
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believing that every single thing that you see is a
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sign from the other side. And also I found that
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a lot of people that go into this arena, it
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kind of opens the floodgates to a lot of other stuff.
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I don't necessarily believe in absolutely everything just because it's
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comes under the supernatural radar. But just to go back
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to the original question, I think that when you have
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these experiences, there's there's a strong sense of knowing that
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comes with it. You know, Like I've had experiences before
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where like I've had a physical sensation like go through
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me as I've had this experience and and and it's
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undoubtedly something beyond whatever's going on here. And I've had
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that shared with somebody else as well. I wrote about
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it in my second book. So I feel that when
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we really do have these like actual valid legit scigns,
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there's no question about it.
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Yeah, how do you respond to skeptics who say grief
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can distort perception as well as reality.
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That's a very good point. One thing that people were
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saying to me when I was talking about seeing the
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man on the phone call with my mom, was that,
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you know, well I was talking about it when I
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was grieving, because you know, my mom had passed the
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next day, so everyone who had told her about who
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I told about it, she'd already died. And I kept
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having to point out that, well, I wasn't grieving at
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the time, because it was the night before. I didn't
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I didn't realize she was going to pass away. And
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I don't think that this was some you know, post
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hallucination that you know, my partner was with me at
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the time, she'd she'd heard me, had this whole conversation.
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I have no doubt that it's a real thing. You
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know that wanting to know that my mom was okay
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really sent me down this this rabbit hole of mediumship.
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So I can understand the argument that I was searching
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for that validation and that's what I wanted to get,
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and I did get that. Again, personally, I can't help
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but have this kind of eternal skeptic in me, so
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I know that I just don't buy into absolutely everything. Yeah,
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that's a truck. That's a good question. It's a good question.
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I'm not quite sure how to answer it. Again, I
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don't think that absolutely everything is is definitely a sign
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or if you get comfort from it, then why not.
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But I do believe that this, that this is a
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real thing, that there's more to this than we understand.
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And you know, one thing that I always come back
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to is, you know, explain time. And I'm going off
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in a bit of a tangent here or in a
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different direction. But you know, this is something that we
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deal with every day, that we just accept it, we
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structure our lives around it. But sit down and tell
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me what it is, right, And I think, you know,
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we just get used to stuff and we just accept
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it as reality. And the more I've tuned in to this,
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this new way of looking at things, the more it's
845
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becoming my you know, way of reality. And it doesn't
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really I don't see it as that supernatural anymore. Yeah,
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so I went off topic there.
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No, No, it's quite all right, because I believe what
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we call supernatural is actually quite natural. We just haven't
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learned to understand or to accept it.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's it at the end of the day.
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And again, you know, I think that you try, you know,
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you know, for anyone that's interested in going into this
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this area, I think, yeah, start with meditation. See if
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it's try it out, see if it's you know, for you.
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Don't buy into everything that everybody absolutely says, you know,
857
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like especially anyone that's a self proclaiming guru that is
858
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like holding secrets back, and they give you a little
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nugget of truth that resonates with you, you know. I think,
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you know, learn, learn from who you can, take what
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works for you, and just discard what doesn't and and
862
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sort of just just find your own way.
863
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Why is meditation so important to mediumship work.
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I think that it's really the key. It's really the
865
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gateway that opens that opens it up again what I
866
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was saying earlier about being able to recognize that we're
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not at thoughts, you know, like you're walking down the
868
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street and somebody upsets you and you get triggered and
869
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you react, you know, and we have all these you know,
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you have your thoughts, you have your responses. But I
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think that when you're able to just sit with yourself
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and try to take even if it's only five minutes,
873
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and start to recognize that all that stuff that's going
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on that you don't have to get caught up with that,
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and that you can step back from it and recognize
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that you're this other thing. You start to recognize this,
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you know that your consciousness there's not even the language
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for it, right, and and to be able to to
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understand that all that stuff going on over here, all
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these thoughts and all these sort of reactions that you
881
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don't need to go with it. And again, like when
882
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you create that space and you are trying to connect
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with spirit guides, which I think is like one of
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the first steps basically towards mediumship, then you recognize this
885
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as a as a sort of for one of a
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better expression and separate entity that comes in.
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Why do you think society is so hesitant to accept
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the spiritual side of grief as well as the spiritual
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side of life?
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That I don't know. And I also think that part
891
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of that is, you know, when death shows up, whether
892
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it's thinking about our own mortality or when we lose someone.
893
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I was really struck by how we all accept it,
894
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but we're not prepared for it, and because we don't
895
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talk about it, and we don't deal with it, and
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and and it's such an odd thing because because it's
897
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it's everywhere. It's part of life, and everyone gets uncomfortable
898
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talking about it, and we don't seem to be prepared
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for it. I feel that talking about that being said,
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you know, I think that I don't know. I know
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you've been doing this for a long time, but I
902
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feel that these conversations are a lot more. They're not
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dismissed as much as they were back in the day.
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You know, when I was talking about this, maybe thirty
905
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years ago or something like that, you know it was
906
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it was probably dismissed, as I suppose. It's the location
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dependent as well. But for the most part, I think
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people are more open to this, this kind of talking
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and this way of thinking now than they have been before.
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How has being a medium and an author of the
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books that you've written changed your personal life completely?
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It's taken me in a completely different direction to where
913
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I thought I was going. I was, you know, tensatively
914
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calling myself an actor. I wasn't under any illusions about it.
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I was paying the bills with it, and that was
916
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fine for me. I got into it quite late in
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my forties. But this just seems I don't want to
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say more important, but for me, it's It's just it's
919
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got so much more value, you know, than anything that
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I've come across so far, and I find it endlessly fascinating.
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And yeah, it's just now my daily life. I'm talking
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with clients every day online for the most part, and yeah,
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just just talking for the people. The people that are
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connect that I find most interesting. Of people that having
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this go through a spiritual awakening themselves and telling me
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about their experiences, there is a whole other side to
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you know, call yourself a psychic. Of course, you get
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people asking, you know, am I is my boyfriend going
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to call me next week? And stuff like that, But
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for the most part, yeah, like my life's kind of
931
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in a completely different direction.
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Yeah, what's the next for you, Phil? Another book, workshop
933
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or a new journey? What are you excited about?
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Yeah, I'm just at the end of writing my third book.
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I thought that these first two were going to be
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part of a trilogy. I still do believe that, but
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I think this third book is something completely different. I'm
938
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definitely not the first person to channel a book, but
939
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it's essentially a conversation and whatever's going on is way
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smarter than me. I'll read it back and I'm like
941
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I again, I know I didn't know that, but again
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I'm not the first person to do it. To do this,
943
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I'm sort of going into Neil donnald Wald's territory or
944
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something like that. So yeah, I'm looking forward to see
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well first to giving it to my publishers and if
946
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it gets out there then people's reaction to that. This weekend,
947
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I've got a talk coming up in the UK, something
948
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called the Kent Wellness Festival. I enjoy going to these
949
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spiritual festivals and talking for an hour about this kind
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of stuff. Yeah, just going along and seeing where it
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takes me.
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Phil, What do you hope our listeners may take away
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from your message tonight? What do you think the most
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important part of our hour has been to get across?
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I think that again, just that these experiences can be
956
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very subjective, you don't. You know, take what resonates from
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what I've said, and if some of it resonates with you,
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then great. If some of it sounds like, you know, rubbish,
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then I get it because it did to me for
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a long time. And again, you know, just sort of
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pick your gurs wisely and yes, see what works for
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you and go with that.
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Yeah, well, Phil, Webster. Thank you for joining us here
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in the X one tonight and for sharing your deeply personal,
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incredibly moving and soul stirring story with us and our listeners.
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Your dream reminds us all that grief doesn't have to
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be the end of a connection, but in many ways,
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it's just the beginning of a deeper understanding.
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Of love and spirit.
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Now, for those of you who want to explore Phil's
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books or learn more about his ongoing work in the
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field of spiritual awakening, head to www dot phil Webster
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dot com. That's Phi L l Webster dot com. And
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to all of you in the Xzone Nation, remember sometimes
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the light we're looking for isn't out there, it's actually
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glowing from within. Phil. Take care of yourself and I
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look forward to the next time that you and I
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meet here in the X Zone.
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Thanks for having me back. Well I speak to you.
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It's my pleasure, really great talking to you. And do
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the world a favor and keep up the great work
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that you're doing you see. Thank you, Take care my
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good friend. Well that's it for tonight, x O Nation.
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I'll be back tomorrow night at ten o'clock. Is once
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again we crossed the time space continuum to this place
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that I call the X Zone. It's a place where
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people dare to leave and dear to be heard. It's
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a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
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And as you know, the X Zone comes to you
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Monday through Friday from ten pm Eastern until midnight right
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here on the Talk Star Radio Network, Mutual Broadcast Network,
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and the xone Broadcast Network from our broadcast center in
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studios in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada. So until we meet
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tomorrow night, my friends, please always remember to keep your
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eyes to the sky and your heart in the light.
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Good night, everyone,