Fall Activities

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Ball is here, and we've got all kinds of great activities to do in the fall time in the Four Corners.
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That's today's talking points at the Den.
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Welcome to the den.
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Fall is upon us, and we've got all kinds of great activities in the four corners.
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Today we're going to be talking about some of those activities and what's exciting and things that you could do in the fall in this area.
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But before I get to that, let me introduce my friends, my partners, my co-hosts, the fellow members of the Lions group.
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To my left, Aspen, the Ninja Gruen, and the boss, Shannon Martin Martinez.
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My name is Ben.
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Fall down the mountain of success, Lions.
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You know, some people climb the mountain.
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You just kind of keep tumbling.
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I just fall.
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I just fall.
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You've seen Chris Farley, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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And he like I don't agree with that.
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I think I think you've climbed pretty well.
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Tumbles and then, you know, he ends up on his feet at the end.
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Like all messing up.
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He's like, I'm here, black sheep.
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You remember that?
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Uh great movie.
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Uh, fall, one of the best times of year.
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Who uh is it your favorite time of year?
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No.
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No, I do like it's mine.
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Yeah.
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Your favorite time of year.
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Why?
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You just like pumpkin spice.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I love football.
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I love uh the weather cooling down this time of year.
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I like the changing of the leaves and stuff.
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I like the weather better.
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Spring, I like fall and spring better than winter and summer, but the problem is in spring we have all the wind.
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So I feel like in fall you get that calming, cooling weather that's so nice to be out in, yet you don't have gale force winds that you have to it is like a nostalgic time of year too.
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It's like all you watch all the movies, you do all the like you're heading into the holidays.
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It just warms your heart.
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It just I don't know, fall just feels good.
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It does.
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It's my daughter's favorite time of year, and she was also born on the first day of fall.
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Oh, really?
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Yep.
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So she is all about it.
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Like we just had her sweet 16 last year, and her theme was fall.
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Wow, that's cool.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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That was fun.
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Yeah.
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Falls fall to me, you know, used to not be my favorite season.
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It's my favorite season.
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Yeah.
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See, and I wore my can't beat it.
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I wore my uh Hawaiian shirt to honor fall because they just have two seasons out there.
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They have rainy waves and then they have not rainy waves.
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So, um, but we just thinking about people in Hawaii because they've been hit with a whole bunch of storms and had some issues, but wanted to wear my Hawaiian get up or our fall episode.
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How really that's true.
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It is true.
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Uh, but I love fall.
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I mean, it really has grown on me because um the temperatures just kind of settle in.
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You're back in a routine.
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My favorite thing in the world is football and crock pots.
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Exactly.
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I mean, yeah.
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So that's where it's at.
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I am we do not watch sports at our house, but I did sign up for fantasy football.
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Oh, with some of our friends who are very into it, and I'm in over my head.
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Uh well, you're gonna do great because that's what happens.
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You're like your first run at fantasy football, you do awesome.
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People are like, she doesn't even know.
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Like, she didn't even know.
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And she wins.
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I was like, do I have to watch football?
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Yeah.
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I can maybe commit to like two games.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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By the end of the season, my family's like, Really, dude?
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It's Tuesday.
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Like, I they got Tuesday games now.
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I don't know.
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You know, I know.
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We're bad.
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It was like everyone Sunday was the time, and then you had Monday night football.
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Then now Thursday works it in, and then you got Saturday for college.
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I thought it was just on Sundays.
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Yeah, no, it's it they've expanded.
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No, you get to watch all week.
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Yeah.
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Most of the time.
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I enjoy.
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I enjoy it.
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It's a good time.
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Um favorite crock pot meals, Aspen?
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What's your favorite fall meal?
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Ooh, see, that changes it.
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Yeah.
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You can go crock pot or this is where I'm gonna like this is gonna sound so weird, but I have perfected my pinto bean recipe.
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Oh, and in the crock pot, in the crock pot.
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That's how I like to make it.
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And it is um, I I'll I'll put it up to anybody's pinto beans.
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That's how confident I am in this.
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Dude, I want the recipe.
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I'll I'll make you some, I'll bring it over.
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Yeah, buddy.
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It's insanely good with cornbread.
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Yeah.
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So do you do like homemade cornbread or but chiffes okay too?
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Chiffies, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Shannon, what's your favorite?
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I don't know that I have a favorite.
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I make so many different soups and and things like that in the crock pot.
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Lots of, you know, especially in the fall, I like anything with green chili in it.
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You know, um, chicken enchilada soup.
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Or, you know, even the other day I was just I was at home alone and and it was just me.
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So I just made a really simple, I put like some um onions in the bottom of my crock pot, some garlic, put some chicken thighs on top of it, um, salt and peppered them, and just put a little carton of mushrooms and some cream of mushroom soup and let it cook all down.
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Made like a little gravy out of the sauce when it was done, and served it over some mashed potatoes, and it was like literally the best food I had eaten in months.
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Yeah.
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Anything you put in the crock pot turns out amazing.
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It is.
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I do love like a shepherd's pie or something like that though, too.
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Mm-hmm.
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Or chicken pot pie.
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Yeah.
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I love chicken pot pie.
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Now back to the show.
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You know, you're you're famous in our household because our girl's like, oh dad, this is good.
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I'm like, it's a Shannon Martin Martinez recipe.
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That's right.
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It's not the tip.
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I know.
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So I know.
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If I find a good thing, I'm Pinteresting you, yeah.
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You know, give this one a try.
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Get this married.
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You're gonna have to work your way in, Aspen.
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It's in the pentopins.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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So do you put do you put meat in the pento beans?
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I do.
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You do, okay.
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I do pork, like pork ribs.
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Okay.
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I do sear them first.
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Yeah.
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If I've actually been using my instant pock, then it's still all in one.
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And you can use the crock pot and the sear, and you don't have to do it all, but same.
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So the big spoonful of lard in there, and lard makes everything better.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, terrible word.
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Great flavor.
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Accurate word, though, I feel for one additional.
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That's true.
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Uh okay.
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So now that you've got your flavor of some fall coming your way, um, let's talk about some activities in the four corners.
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I mean, there's so many great activities here, and we just wanted to highlight some of the things that maybe people don't think about doing.
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Um, and so yeah, let's talk about it.
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Shannon, what's one of the things that you love to do in the fall, or is a great activity for people to consider doing?
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Well, starting at the beginning of October, um, and it runs through the end of the year, but usually it's better towards the beginning, middle November.
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Uh salmon snagging.
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Love it.
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Oh, absolutely love it.
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You go out to the, you know, Navajo Lake, and um, you know, I think over the years it's gotten a little bit less fun than it was when I was a kid because you had more um shoreline that you could snag from.
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Um and I think now it's kind of a little bit pinched in some areas and it it, you know, people start getting twisted up and stuff.
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But honestly, um, that is so much fun because there's never a time that you can take your kids out and they don't have to worry about baiting the hooks.
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They don't have to, you know, you throw it out there and all you do is just pull it in and you bring something in, and they've never caught a fish that size before.
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I mean, these things are huge.
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Huge.
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They are huge, they're heavy.
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It's it's probably some of the funner fishing.
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I mean, we do have great fly fishing, we have great, you know, trout fishing here.
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Um, we have a lot of good fishing here, but that is just so unique and such a fun time.
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And you're out there and it's freezing cold, and you know, you got, you know, you got all your warm stuff to stay warm if you're doing it at night and everything, but it's a it's an adventure.
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So so the salmon's because the salmon make their way back up the river to spawn.
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Yes.
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And so so you're talking about at the base of the dam.
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Yeah, there's just big, thick schools of them.
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There's just there's just so many of them.
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You don't even bait your hook, you just have a claw hook and you throw it out there and you just pull it in and you just grab one.
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So you're getting it by the tail, you're catching it by the face, you're getting, you know, whatever.
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You know, you don't have to wait for something to bite your hook.
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Yeah.
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Like sometimes you take kids fishing in there, um, they're a little bit bored after a while if it's not a good day, you know.
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I forgot about salmon segments.
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Yeah, and I think you can take 12 per day.
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Um I I think that's what you could take.
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Good.
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Yeah, 12 per day that you can take salmon out of there.
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So that's a lot of fun to have.
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Yeah, because a lot of person.
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A lot of people, we knew this in the Northwest because salmon was is huge up there.
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And they they do their salmon runs every year.
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Um, but salmon when they when they come back up the river, they expire.
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They they you know, spawn and then they expire.
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So there's no sense in not don't waste it.
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Yeah, don't like take the opportunity to to harvest that meat, have some fun with your family.
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Yeah, go and take as much as you can.
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You can can it, you can freeze it, you know.
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I mean, you don't have to eat 12 salmon a day, you know.
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I wish I liked salmon.
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You don't like salmon?
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Lovely one of my least favorite.
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Oh my gosh.
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I like cannot choke it down.
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I hate it.
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You know, Moran was the same way.
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She did not like salmon at all.
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And then um And then you tried my recipe?
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The Shandon Martin Martin.
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No, right?
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The the bro broiled salmon recipe?
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Yeah.
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Okay, maybe I'll give it another shot.
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The planked salmon is good.
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It's like you put it on a board.
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Yeah, my dad used to make it smoke a little bit smoky.
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And she we did that up in Washington and she fell in love with it.
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So, but recreating it down here is a little bit harder.
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So tap the fresh salmon.
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Yeah.
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Maybe that's maybe that makes a difference.
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Yeah.
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So that, you know.
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What a cool, yeah, snagging.
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So that's from October, the beginning of October.
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And it's better to get kind of early, right?
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I think so.
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I think the October through, you know, like mid-November in has been in my experience, it's been good.
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I don't know.
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Maybe it's just because I'm not gonna have fun out there, you know, December 22nd, you know, out there.
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Exactly.
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That's that doesn't sound too exciting to me.
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So maybe I've just always found that it's better earlier on because the weather's better.
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Now there's a time limit, I'm sure, um, with game the game in wildlife, like that you can start snagging at a certain time or not that I know of.
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Yeah, okay.
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I mean, maybe there is, but not that I know of.
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Okay.
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So you have to go get a permit to do it then.
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Like a normal fishing fishing license.
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Okay.
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Cool.
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You have to have a fishing license.
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Awesome.
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That's a fantastic one.
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I love that.
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That's all the day.
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That's a ton, too.
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I feel like it is.
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There's a ton of them out there per day, too.
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That's right.
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So just keep pulling them in.
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If you like it, you could stock up for the year almost.
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But I'm saying, I have friends that do that.
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They'll they'll can it, they'll freeze it, you know, they'll just go out and salmon snag for, you know, a couple of days and just have, you know, salmon in the freezer for the year.
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Turn it into salmon jerky.
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You know, what I've been experimenting with is ramen bowls lately.
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And so I've been making homemade ramen bowls with like the soft boiled eggs and stuff like that.
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And one good thing is so good in that is just chopping up, uh just cubing your salmon and just kind of steering it and making like a teriyaki glaze over it.
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That is so incredible in that's a total other story.
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I'm telling you.
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But that yeah, a lot of use for salmon.
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Okay.
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Well, and and who thinks about New Mexico, northern New Mexico, and thinks about salmon.
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You don't.
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You think of you think of it being like an Alaskan thing.
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Yeah.
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Very unique experience here locally.
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Aspen, what's one of the things that you love or you think that is unique to do in the Four Corners in the fall?
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One thing I love to do is going for like a day trip anywhere and just going leaf peeping.
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I want to go see all the leaves, especially because we live in such a high desert mountain area.
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You can like spread it out too.
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It's kind of like it's not a one and done.
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You could go to Sil Silverton or Uray or Telluride or Durango, or even here if you want to go down by the river, like ours is a little bit later, so it's like you kind of get all like a longer season than if it was just leaf peeping.
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Leaf peeping.
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Never heard that term.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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That's wild.
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Yeah.
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Go peep some leaves.
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Go peep some leaves.
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We were going to peep.
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Um, so yeah, I mean, because you got you've got all the beautiful trees down by the river here locally.
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You can zip up to Pagosa Springs or Yeah, I and I love like sitting at an like a rooftop bar in your Ray or like the nugget in Durango, and just like having a hot toddy outside and you know, looking at all the leaves.
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Checking it out.
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You know what another really good fall location is to do things like that is uh I don't know if you guys like to spend time at James Ranch.
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Oh, love James Ranch.
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Yeah.
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So they in the fall and in the winter are so good with their soups.
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They have amazing soups.
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And they always had they had that big fireplace inside and and they're just covered with windows.
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And in the fall, when it's cold outside, to go sit up there and just have that spectacular view of their ranch with an amazing bowl of soup.
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And I don't know, there's just something that feels good about it.
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Here, Wines of San Juan, go sit and look at all those.
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I mean, there's just so many places to just like take.
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I feel like fall is a time to kind of take it a little easier.
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That's right.
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And like slow down a little bit, have some quality time.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Near the fire.
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And for our audience who don't know, James Ranch, right across from Honeyville.
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Honeyville.
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Up north of Durango.
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Um, every like when they say farm to table, like they legit mean like the cheese, they made the cheese that's a chance.
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The table is in the farm.
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Yeah.
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The burger that you're eating was was grown there.
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Yeah.
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Some of the best burgers I've ever had.
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The lettuce, I mean, you can tell the lettuce is just fresh picked.
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Yeah.
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Um, I mean I really like that.
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They have a kale salad that has like a lemon kind of vinaigrette on it, and they always take one of their farm fresh eggs and it's like an over medium egg and they put it on top of your salad.
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Oh my gosh.
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I don't know why, and a lot of cut up squash.
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I don't know why it's such a good combination, but that is the best salad that you can find.
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When everything fresh just tastes different.
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It does.
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It does.
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It does.
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There's a different flavor.
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We just say some of the tomatoes that I've grown cost me $200 to grow some tomatoes.
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Right.
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I just picked my first, my first one.
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Um and the flavor, the both the girls were like, Dad, these tomatoes are awesome.
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Like, aren't they awesome?
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Like, there's so much flavor to them versus the store bots.
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Something commercially grown just doesn't ever have the same, you don't have the same experience.
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Yeah.
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Well, and speaking of that, farmers markets.
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We've got some fantastic farmer farmers markets.
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They're all roasting chilies too, right now.
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Smell of getting that started.
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Oh that's probably one of my favorite things is when you walk into a grocery store and you're smelling the green chili as they're roasting it, is amazing.
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Here's a here's a great tip.
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If you go get green chili, take a few um soaked garlic cloves.
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So go grab some garlic cloves, soak them in water, take them with you, and they'll roast them with the chilies.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
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Yeah, you can throw your garlic cloves in.
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Well, I'll tell you what my husband's suggestion is.
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He always says, whenever he smells them roasting that, he always says, Well, if they would just have like some fresh tortillas over there that you could take a sample of the chili, I'd buy more.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's true.
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Nick, I'm with you.
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A hundred percent.
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Yeah, I mean, that always kicks it off for me, is that um, but you know what I love about our municipalities here locally?
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We have four municipalities.
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We have Farmington, Bloomfield, Aztec, and now Kirtland.
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Um, they work together with their growers' markets, which is incredible.
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Like Farmington, I just in fact I was um astonished.
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So I wrote it down.
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You've got Kirtland on Monday evening, they do their grower's market, Farmington does Tuesday, Aztec does Wednesday, and Bloomfield does Thursday.
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That way you can make your rounds.
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Yeah.
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No matter where you live, you can hit the grower's market every week, every week.
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And it's good for them so they don't have to pick one to go to.
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Yeah.
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Um, one of my favorite things, with especially with green chili, is the fry bread in the fall.
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And at the grower's market in Farmington, I don't know if he goes other places, probably.
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There is a stand there that says famous fry bread.
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And it is, hands down, the best fry bread I've ever had in my life.
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And I I've tried a few fry bread in my decades.
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Oh, it is, and I love a Navajo taco, especially with green chili.
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Okay.
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So so legit best fry bread.
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Farmington Growers Market.
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It it says it's a big, um, it's like a red tent tent with yellow writing, it says like famous fry bread.
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I can't remember the name that it says, but it is you can't miss it.
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And it is the best fry bread I've ever done.
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It's true.
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And if you eat a big scoop of chili on something like a fry bread or a fresh tortilla, you're gonna leave with a bag of chili.
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Yeah, it's true.
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I know you're not gonna be able to do that.
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Speaking my love language here.
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Like now, and it's like lunchtime right now, too.
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So I'm like, I'm kinda hungry.
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Right?
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Yeah, no doubt.
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This sounding good, yeah.
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All of this food, you can tell we're hungry because all we've talked about the whole, yeah.
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Right?
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But honestly, the food in the fall is the best.
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It is, especially in New Mexico.
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Yep.
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New Mexican food does elevate in the fall with the roasted, yeah, fresh chilies.
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So when you're driving out to snag some salmon, you can get the views, you can peep some trees, pop up to the dam, drop down to the marina, maybe make sure to take some chili and fry bread with your first snack while you're fishing.
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You can make the loop, you can go up through uh Arboles and what is the farm that whenever you're going out of Aztec right there to the right?
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Townsend.
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Townsend Farms.
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Yeah, you can even grab some stuff there.
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Townsend Farms is fantastic.
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And if you do do the full loop, you can come back through Jackalope Acres, which is up near Ignacio, and they have the hay rides now.
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They do all the canning with the um the different jams, they've got a whole area for all the kids to play.
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I mean, different areas.
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They've got um I think they have the pumpkin shooting thing going on.
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They were expanding something too.
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They just released like a teaser on their Facebook, like, stay tuned, something coming.
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They're like a big building they're building.
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That's so awesome.
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So who knows what it's gonna be.
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So we used to have Sutherland Farms, which was amazing.
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And then that was such a treasure.
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I know it was a good thing.
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That was such a treasure to go there.
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You know, the kids could pick their pumpkins, they could go on little hay rides, they could get in a the corn maze, you know, all the all the canned fruits and vegetables from the season you could go out and get.
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They usually had the the purple cow cafe, had their little truck out there.
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You could go get some food if you wanted to.
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Whenever I was in high school, they did a haunted hay ride.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I remember we all went out and did that, and I was so scared.
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But it was so fun.
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It was like such a good memory, and we were all like, you know, just a bunch of teenagers, like, I'm not scared of you scared.
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Yeah, they're not scared.
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Terrified.
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Yeah, I'm terrified.
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And we need more activities like that for our young people, you know, to really enjoy.
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Yeah.
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Well, and I know uh the city of Farmington does some stuff in the in the fall.
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Um, they have, of course, Berg Park is gorgeous to walk around.
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Uh, but also they've been um instrumental in one of my favorite things, the balloon, the balloon rally, the four corners balloon rally.
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So you have the four corners balloon rally here in uh San Juan County, and then you have Animus Valley Balloon Rally up in La Plata County.
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Um, two incredible events.
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Did you know the most photographed thing in the world is the balloon fiesta in Albuquerque?
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Yeah, I believe it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, when you go there, like I like, I don't even know what a like a crack attic with a crayon.
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I just am like, click, click, click, click, click.
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I've been going around and I can't, I can't even focus.
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I'm just snapping my phone.
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And then I get down, I'm like, I, oh, there were 1,500 photographs of balloons, you know.
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Even just like around town.
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Like if I see them outside of my window, like if I'm in my living room and I'm like, oh, there's a balloon.
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Snap, snap, snap.
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I'm taking, I'm taking pictures.
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And the kids are like, damn.
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I'm like, you don't know what you have.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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It's incredible.
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And so Four Corners Balloon Rally is gonna be happening at the end of September.
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So when this episode comes out, should be today or tomorrow.
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So sorry.
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Yeah.
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So we're pre-recording this episode.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Get out there and enjoy it.
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Um, because the balloon glows are fantastic, and then sometimes they'll do a tethered ride and the kids can get in the baskets.
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I mean, honestly, one of the my favorite things to do in this area is the uh is the balloon rallies.
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So and this, I think, is the fifth year in a row for Four Corners.
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Um, and fun fact for our audience, Farmington was actually the first balloon fiesta back, I think, in the sixty.
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For Albuquerque.
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Oh, that's crazy.
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And then Albuquerque ended up picking it up and they became famous for it.
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Of course, they have bigger facilities, a lot more population.
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Could you imagine if that event were held here?
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I mean, we think we think Connie Mac.
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Oh, bringing a lot of people to different different town.
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Yeah.
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Incredible.
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So it's I'm really thankful that we got that back.
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Right.
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We can we can Yeah, ours are on a smaller level than what they have in Albuquerque.
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It's so cool.
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Beautiful.
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All of them are.
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And honestly, I almost like that it's a smaller scale because it's like then we can just enjoy them and we're not fighting crowds and crowds and crowds of people.
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Yeah, anything.
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It's it's very, very overcrowded.
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And yet here, you know, I mean, when they have them at the lake or whatever, no, you you just, you know, you park and and everybody's got room and everybody's got a place to see.
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And most people just sit in their backyards.
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You can they come right over your house.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's so fun because you can stay out there and, you know, in your yard and go, Oh, sip some coffee.
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Coughing, talk to people.
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How are you doing?
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Good.
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So yeah, the kooks discs are crazy.
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You don't think you can, but when you're up there, you can hear the people on the ground talking about you.
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Yeah, it was wild.
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Our little dog goes loves to run out and bark at them.
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And then when they do the flame, like she's right back inside, like, oh man, there's gonna get me.
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He's gonna get me.
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Alien.
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Yeah.
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So uh one of the other things is uh in this area, we have at the beginning of October, the Road Apple Rally, which is the longest standing mountain biking race in the country, right here in the four corners.
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And so if you'd love to mountain bike or bike in general, a few fun facts about it.
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So there's three different categories you can race in.
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And there's gonna be the pro, which is the expert, uh, the sport or the sprint.
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And so the pro is 30 miles.
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That's that's a jaunt on a mountain bike.
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And it's an elevation climb of 1,880 feet.
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That's a good is 14.6 um with a 680 climb in elevation, and the sprint is a 4.4 with um 272 elevation.
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So another fun fact is uh the there is a cash purse for the pro, 1,500 bucks for first place.
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Yeah, and I think it goes down to like fifth place, it's like 300 bucks.
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Like it goes down, you know, so good.
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But yeah, they do have a cash prize, which is really fun.
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And another fun fact about the Road Apple Rally, I actually did it.
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I was just gonna say I was about to ask you guys if you've ever mountain biked.
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And I did.
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I did the sport, which is the 14.6, uh-huh, and um, I was the very last person that went across the finish line.
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And I was so tired when I left, I drove my bike, I rode it right to my car and loaded it on and left.
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And I never went and got my little tag thing that you know, the little trophy that you get for it because I couldn't walk for a week.
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I was 36 years old, and I thought, I'm in good enough shape to do this.
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Yeah.
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I was not in good enough shape to do that.
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But you know what?
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I was not taken off that trail in an ambulance.
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The most important thing is you finish.
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That's right.
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And they do, they have they have help and medical along the way for people that they pick up.
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So you saying how you walked funny for a week after I'm like, after Bryson did his Iron Man, we had a whole vacation.
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I was like, oh man, he's gonna be not able to walk.
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So we're he was like, fine.
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Yeah.
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He just had like some road rash, or like, you know, from his like chasing, from his like arm.
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I'm like But he's a fireman and he's used to that kind of thing.
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If I want a hike and I'm like I'm sore for three, four days, right?
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Yeah.
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I was not in shape.
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Oh no, I couldn't even, I don't I didn't think I could mount.
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I've never mountain biked.
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And I don't think I'm gonna, you know, I don't think I'm gonna start either.
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Neither had I.
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Oh no.
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That's how dumb I was.
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She went from couch to uh to race.
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Frankly, you did do it.
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I said, so do that.
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And you did, and you made and you finished it.
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It wasn't a good choice.
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It was one of my least, you know.
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But you know what?
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No one can ever take away the fact that you finished.
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I did finish it.
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I have a t-shirt.
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I got the t-shirt first.
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Yeah.
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So I actually have the t-shirt.
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You don't have the metal because you're like, I don't have the credentials saying I finished it.
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I'm cooked.
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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But I did.
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That's fantastic.
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Yeah.
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I just I I feel like everyone I know who mountain bikes has like some horrible injury, like broken collar bones, or and I was I've just never really gotten into it.
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Bryson went mountain biking.
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He got into it for like a few months, and then he crashed, cracked his helmet, sold his bike the next day.
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Yeah.
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He was like, that's enough for that.
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I mean, it's fun, but it it it can be perilous.
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It can be pretty wild.
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I've I've had times where I've gone over the front of my handlebars, and because I was clicked in with my pedals, the bike just went right back over with me.
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And uh yeah.
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So sometimes I have a hard time getting on my Peloton.
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So I just don't think that's for me.
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Yeah.
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Uh oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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That's funny.
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Okay, well, that's that's an awesome one.
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Um million-dollar highway.
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How about that?
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Have you done that drive?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Often, because I had my um Yoga Studi until Intelli Rides a year ago.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I'd go the URA route.
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But we had one in Dolores too, so most of the time I went that way.
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But I I like that road, which is so funny because I'm so scared of heights.
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But it's just, I will say, whenever I'm driving, I'm not looking at the road.
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When you're driving, you're focused on the road.
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Yeah.
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It's worth seeing though.
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And especially worth seeing in the fall.
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Yeah.
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My sister-in-law was gonna come down um from Wyoming with her kids, and she was like, Oh, well, we could either go like Wolf Creek, but I don't think I want to be with those windy like mountain roads.
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I think I'm gonna go down and she and through your ray with a million dollars.
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And I said, I was all, I'm gonna send you a picture of the past.
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Yeah.
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Because she's gets very anxious.
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I was like, I'm gonna send you a picture of the past, and you let me know if you think that's the way you want to go.
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Then her picture, she's like, I could not have driven over that.
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She's like, I would have had to like turn around.
00:27:22.169 --> 00:27:22.569
Right.
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Oh my gosh.
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And spend a whole day back around the other way.
00:27:25.609 --> 00:27:28.970
Well, and the best thing to do is like go up there and stay a night.
00:27:28.970 --> 00:27:29.529
Oh, for sure.
00:27:29.529 --> 00:27:31.849
And so you're not, you know, trying to do it all in one day.
00:27:31.849 --> 00:27:32.970
You can do it all in one day.
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We've done that before.
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Yeah.
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It's just a long day.
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But go up and stay in your Ray, the Switzerland of the United States.
00:27:39.769 --> 00:27:40.250
So pretty too.
00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:43.049
The Box Canyon there and everything.
00:27:43.449 --> 00:27:44.490
Box Canyon's beautiful.
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Gorgeous.
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Gorgeous.
00:27:45.769 --> 00:27:50.490
Do a little bit of hiking and um and then go back up through Telluride and drop down.
00:27:50.490 --> 00:27:51.689
The hot springs, yep.
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Bagosa Springs, hot springs.
00:27:53.689 --> 00:27:54.809
All of that stuff is better in the fall.
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It is.
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You don't want to do that in the summer.
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Yeah.
00:27:56.089 --> 00:27:57.289
You don't want it in the summer.
00:27:57.289 --> 00:27:57.529
Yeah.
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Feels good in the fall.
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Absolutely.
00:27:59.609 --> 00:28:00.490
Fantastic.
00:28:00.490 --> 00:28:05.369
Um, any other unique opportunities to do stuff in the fall?
00:28:05.369 --> 00:28:06.490
I like the hoodoos.
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Oh, yeah.
00:28:07.529 --> 00:28:09.689
Hoodoos hiking, you don't want to do it in the summer.
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Because it's too hot.
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It's just way too hot.
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But gosh, if you get out there in the fall, it's nice.
00:28:15.289 --> 00:28:16.009
It's cool.
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Looks like Mars.
00:28:17.369 --> 00:28:18.329
It does look like Mars.
00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:20.250
I don't know what Mars really looks like, but that's what I picked up.
00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:22.009
But you think it's what you think Mars would look like.
00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:22.250
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All these mushroom-shaped rocks everywhere.
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You can get lost out there.
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But don't try to get lost.
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I mean, don't people get lost.
00:28:29.609 --> 00:28:30.490
You don't really want to get lost.
00:28:30.649 --> 00:28:31.849
You kind of get lost metaphorically.
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But don't go get lost.
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Right.
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Um, unless you're wearing like neon or something.
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But um great area to go out and enjoy.
00:28:40.490 --> 00:28:42.009
Nappy's fun.
00:28:42.009 --> 00:28:47.209
Uh, they do have uh sometimes they allow the public to come and get pumpkins and squashes.
00:28:47.609 --> 00:28:48.649
Kids don't get potatoes.
00:28:48.889 --> 00:28:49.929
Potatoes, yeah.
00:28:50.409 --> 00:28:51.689
They do their field trips out there.
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Yeah.
00:28:53.129 --> 00:28:55.209
River just came home with like a bag of potatoes.
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I was like, mountains of potatoes fancy.
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Put them in the crock pot.
00:28:58.089 --> 00:28:58.649
Exactly.
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Give me some taters, mom.
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Um so yeah, some incredible things.
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Uh, we've got uh um theater performances, the Civic Center's kicking in.
00:29:08.649 --> 00:29:10.970
I mean, that's the Civic Center does stuff throughout the year.
00:29:11.049 --> 00:29:15.129
We've got to San Juan Spiphany starts uh starts up, I think, in fall.
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The Chili Festival may be over by the time this comes out, but such a great area to enjoy some very unique um and awe-inspiring things to do.
00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:31.849
I mean, it really is cool to go up and and um and peep some trees, peep some leaves.
00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:32.250
Leaves?
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Leaves, that's what I was saying.
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Peep leaves.
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Go leaf peeping.
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Leaf peeping.
00:29:38.649 --> 00:29:39.609
I thought people said that.
00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:48.169
I think it's just you, but it actually could be because we have a lot of things at our house that I'm like, I don't think other people say that, but you say it so often and so much that you're like, it sounds normal.
00:29:48.169 --> 00:29:49.129
I think we say it.
00:29:49.129 --> 00:29:49.449
Right.
00:29:49.929 --> 00:29:52.089
I try to avoid things that are like peepers.
00:29:52.089 --> 00:29:53.129
I just don't want to be a peeper.
00:29:53.129 --> 00:29:57.049
Uh well, fantastic.
00:29:57.049 --> 00:29:59.209
Any others you want to throw in before we wrap it up?
00:29:59.209 --> 00:30:00.250
I mean, great.
00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:03.289
No, I mean there's there's there's so many things.
00:30:03.289 --> 00:30:12.490
And if people go to that farmingtonnm.org, um, there's a lot of activities, you know, that you can look up and and just take it take advantage of, you know.
00:30:12.490 --> 00:30:15.689
They're still do the the uh the summer concert series.
00:30:15.689 --> 00:30:17.609
I think they do that well into October too.
00:30:17.609 --> 00:30:22.809
So kind of nice out there on the river with the colors changing and a cool night, listening to the music.
00:30:23.209 --> 00:30:32.329
They do have the Sheriff Posse, uh, the Jim Connor rodeos, Friday night lights uh every Friday into October as well.
00:30:32.329 --> 00:30:33.289
So many stuff.
00:30:33.289 --> 00:30:36.970
Go to that website, go to uh that and check it out.
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Find out all the stuff.
00:30:38.089 --> 00:30:43.209
Of course, if you do a little bit of googling, you it won't be long before you're like, ooh, we could do this or that or the other.
00:30:43.209 --> 00:30:44.329
Enjoy this area.
00:30:44.329 --> 00:30:45.769
This is a magical area.
00:30:45.769 --> 00:30:47.849
It's a little hidden gym in the southwest.
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I personally think this is the best area in the southwest with the best community, best weather, best proximity to outdoor recreation.
00:30:56.490 --> 00:30:56.889
Food.
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Food is incredible.
00:30:58.409 --> 00:31:02.409
We get the authentic uh foods from all over, which is wonderful.
00:31:02.409 --> 00:31:04.889
You can even get a little bit of salmon if you time it right.
00:31:05.129 --> 00:31:05.929
Definitely get some chili.
00:31:06.889 --> 00:31:08.169
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