Talking Transparency Episode 2.9

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you are now listening to talking
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transparency the podcast where
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transparents talk transparently hosted
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by Thea Ross Melissa Len and Cody
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Connor oh that's you look me oh my gosh
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producer Athena hi welcome back I am
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Melissa I'm Thea and I'm Cody and we
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have Selena here today is our guest and
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um yes that is lovely Selena sitting on
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the couch with the silly goose um and
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Selena is a oh gosh a woman of all all
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the things um I have been fortunate
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enough to meet her and be she's new to
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me in the sense of um I've only known
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her for about a month and a half it's 2
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months and um but we bonded very quickly
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because for 6 weeks we had to meet twice
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a week in this leadership cohort that we
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did and I found out with like very first
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day how incredibly brilliant this woman
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is and how loving she is and um that we
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need more people like Selena and she's
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also a bad [ __ ] she runs a LGBT Q
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homeschooling group with a bunch of
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other awesome moms yes with a bunch of
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other awesome moms yes yes a bunch of
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other awesome moms um just very very
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active in the community right now going
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to school at ODU trying to pursue her
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PhD um very at first intimidating for me
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because I am when I first met Selena I
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was like oh she's so smart she knows all
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these things oh my gosh and it's just
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that whole like you do a little self
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checkin and then you just realize like
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oh this is like one of my soul sisters
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and um um and so I am super excited to
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for you to be on the podcast today
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because um see like we'll both get a
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little emotional I know like where are
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the tissues um so we worked really hard
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on our leadership cohort to um that we
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were part of um we had amazing mentors
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and they walked us through um basically
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how as Leaders we're going to start
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Grassroots organizing and like as we
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become like forward-facing uh organizers
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and leaders in the community we need to
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have a story and we talk about story uh
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essentially started us with storytelling
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and so um our storytelling about oursel
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mored uh from the time we started
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talking about it till the time we ended
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I think all of us had by the time we
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what whatever we started with when we
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were um started this kind of cohort in
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this project by the time we got to our
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graduation where we had to like actually
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present our story and it's our story of
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self story of us and story of now um and
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how to act get people activated and but
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also like sharing a part of yourself too
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um and so I have already had the
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pleasure to hear um Selena's
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presentation about this amazing project
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that she is doing um which is really the
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purpose of her being here you know we're
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going to talk about a lot of other
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things that she does but like this
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particular project um I think
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everybody's going to be able to relate
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to um and she has a really great story
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and um hello Selena hi now I feel on the
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spot to tell that story uh no you don't
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have to tell that story no you don't
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have to tell that story no no no I'm
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really glad you guys had me here um
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today thank you it was it it is timely
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um and uh I don't know I'm just excited
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to be with you guys and be in the space
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and like see how the conversation flows
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and you guys let me know when it's my
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turn to be like taada here's the thing
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yeah yeah so um first thing how I how I
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know Selena's Focus right how I what I
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know of Selena for focus is your lgbtq
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kids like your homeschooling program um
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and uh I would love for you to talk just
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a little bit about that and your you
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know your kids and um not necessarily
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your kids specifically but like how you
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ended up getting involved in doing this
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Homeschool Group and the understanding
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the needs of the community yeah
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um I uh so I've been in the
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homeschooling Community for over 20
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years in Virginia and Hampton Roads
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charlot charville and Northern Virginia
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have the largest homeschooled population
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and um so I didn't realize that yes and
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so the mom who actually started the The
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lgbtq Homeschool Group for Hampton Roads
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um she and I have been running in
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circles for over 20 years together and
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she reached out to me I want to say like
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three years ago because I think that's
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about how old the group is now um and
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was like hey would you be interested in
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helping me get this up and running you
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know we're thinking about like trying to
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do some meetups for like the high
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schoolers and stuff and at that point my
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kiddos were Elementary School and hadn't
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really come out or anything like so it
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wasn't uh I was like yeah sure um but I
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was like I don't feel like now is a good
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time and I would I would find out about
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two weeks later that I had stage three
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cancer so like I was not the one to step
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up at that point in time and um I was
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like I will I will step up and step in
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when it's time I was like in the
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meantime I'll just hang out I'll hang
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back I'll I'll like see what I can
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figure out how to support that part of
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the
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community and um eventually after
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treatment I got I got well enough and
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during that process each one of my kids
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had come out to me with some flavor of
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um rainbow
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laqua um and so I was like okay so not
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only are we going to support her Mission
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I was like we're part of who she's
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reaching out to and I was like I'm in so
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we started going to their Library days
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which were originally for high schoolers
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only and um a middle schooler went in
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and just kind of seamlessly joined and
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then it became a middle school and high
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school Meetup and it was really awesome
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um and my kids just they love it there
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they they love the kids they love the
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space um they love the
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Librarians uh the group is really
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organic they just get together and hang
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out and get to be kids I love that and
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not be so isolated and alone because I
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feel like after Co and for our family
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after cancer um Co and cancer yeah there
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was just a lot of isolation and stuff
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and just kind of going to a space where
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you can fully be
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yourself and be authentic it's just um
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it's it's a gift to be able to give to
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that space and to bring that energy but
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it's also a gift to be able to be
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present in it and like receive that
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and um yeah one day one day uh there
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were a couple of us parents sitting
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around hanging out and um the moms who
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had started it their kids like had moved
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on to high like had gone out of high
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school and gone to college or gone into
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work and stuff and we're like okay so
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now what do we do now what yeah so we so
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we were like okay you you make the
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events you be the greeter parent and
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I'll be the reminder parent so I started
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out just being like the reminder parent
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but like hey guys don't forget we have a
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we have have a group and like put a
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event on the calendar or whatever um
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since then we have grown though um
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we we've been partnering with
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organizations in the area um to help
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after the election to just kind of help
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kids feel like they have a voice because
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I think we hear so much you vote that's
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your voice and we're trying to teach
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them that they can vote with their
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dollars and that selfcare is important
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and that they have rights and so we've
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had Planned Parenthood come in and talk
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about
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um resources and help and support and
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how to get involved even even when
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you're little and you don't feel like
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you're big enough to vote or do anything
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how to have your own power because I
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feel like we have a responsibility to
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raise right and that's being that's been
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lost like I think that like that's been
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something that's been really lost with
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public school right one of the things I
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was really grateful is that Selen
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actually invited the Kos coalition to
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come in and I got a chance to go sit and
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meet with a lot of the kids and a lot of
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the the parents I got to meet with them
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and in because a lot of times we talk
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about the trans family dinner we talk
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about making those connections but one
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of the subsets of our community that is
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perhaps even more isolated than some of
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our other lgbtq plus parents and our
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transparents are The Homeschool parents
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and Not only was it me we also had
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producer Athena who came out with us uh
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and helped uh fold cranes with the kids
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and just try to spread a little bit of
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joy and it was really a magical space
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and one of the things that I really love
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about Selena is is that she has been not
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just an amazing advocate for those
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homeschool kids but for the entire
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community in large and um even this
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weekend um one of the things I
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definitely wanted to bring up and
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discuss is this weekend we held a rally
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we all got together in plumpoint park in
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norick and we were rallying for our
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trans Youth and we had all of the mama
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bears well maybe not all the mama bears
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some of them had to work um but so so
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many Mama bears and Papa bears and so
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many different folks who came out we had
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students from over 13 different high
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schools show up we had speakers from all
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different sorts of organ organizations
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and you know Selena was holding down the
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first aid and water supply making sure
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that everyone was okay because candy and
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the candy oh God the candy that was the
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first thing I got when I went to the
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table was the candy it was a really it
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was a really great showing it was a
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really great it was just a really great
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event um so with
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CHKD they have uh they have walked back
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their they they have now said that they
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will offer Jenifer in care to minors and
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they will uh because the federal court
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judge said that that was okay for now um
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and but theia what did they do well it's
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it's an interesting distinction I had a
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chance to talk with some of the spokes
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people and folks that are over there at
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CHKD and they put out an official
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statement where they're were very
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fortunately continuing prescriptions
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continuing care for existing trans care
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patients um but what they uh left out in
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that distinction is is whether or not
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they are going to continue new Trans
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care patient and when I asked for direct
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followup there wasn't any additional
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followup one of the things that we're
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concerned with is that in their
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statement they said they're following
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what UVA and what some of the other
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hospitals are doing and we have
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clarification from UVA that while they
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are referring patients out that if
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someone comes seeking new uh uh care
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they're referring them to to private
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providers not providing that care to the
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hospital and one of the things I'm most
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concerned about is if I was trying to
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end a clinic or shut down a clinic um it
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may not necessarily be a matter of
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kicking all the patients out that can
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cause all sorts of different issues and
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disruptions never mind legal uh uh
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ramifications for the hospital and
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they're because remember they're not
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concerned so much about Justice here as
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they are about the financial
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ramifications of losing Federal funding
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um not to say that they aren't concerned
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about the care of their their patients
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because they are but um the it was also
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important that they didn't actually stop
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care there were some individual parents
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and families because there was a lot of
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confusion the day of but this is the
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sort of confusion that happens when the
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president starts dictating things back
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and forth so one of the things I would
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want to say is we we need to continue
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the advocacy as much as we can to make
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sure that these public hospitals and
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public accommodations are providing
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ongoing care that they're not ceasing
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care because as you said there was
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another federal court uh order that came
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down and and specifically uh indicted
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not just the the C offs of federal
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funding but the the specific um
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Provisions within the the executive
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order that was targeting 19 and under
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and um so yeah one of the things we're
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going to see here is a continued fight I
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hope that if anyone at CHKD ever has a
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chance to listen to us they'll realize
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trans famili aren going anywhere trans
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people aren going to to be here and ours
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especially for our youth are still going
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to be there right hopefully they got
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that message loud and clear when we were
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out there rallying yeah and there was a
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great like what I noticed was um there a
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lot of Youth like I mean youth of all
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ages but like I still you know I'm I'm
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almost 50 so like for me youth is also
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like young 20s you know what I mean like
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but but there were Littles out there but
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there were but there were also Littles
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yeah little so it
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wases group of people out there and so
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which um you know high school kids
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obviously some you know younger adults
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um over 120 people I think yeah I do
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believe there were so many people that I
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don't think everybody got to visit our
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table and sign up for Hal's Coalition
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and for the trans family dinner although
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I tried really hard you did get a lot of
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signups though you did um so with that
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like kind of going to like the high
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school kids um
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something that you've identified is so
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there's always been a rainbow prom yes
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right so I'm not sure if always well
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maybe always I'm not maybe not always
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but like there there has is an
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established rainbow prom here in Hampton
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Roads yes and I'm I'm actually on the
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prom committee this year and you're on
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the prom committee I'm working on Swag
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Bags I'm part of the help with that I'm
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like I yeah I'm excited and so but the
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but the rainbow prom is adults no it's
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actually for kids 13 to 19 13 19 19 okay
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so it's a more welcoming and affirming
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space for kids to get to go to prom and
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take the dates that they want to take
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they don't have to fight with their
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school's
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administrations you know about what they
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wear about who they bring um y so um it
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I'm so excited cuz this year's theme is
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Somewhere Over The Wicked
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rainbow cuz everybody's loving the
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wicked this year and uh it's going to be
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held at a theater on grany I don't well
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the oh grany theater I believe so don't
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don't quote me on that a lot of stuff is
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if it's not the wells it's probably
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gramby yeah yeah I feel like it's I feel
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like it's the gramby theater um in
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norfol Virginia and for our listeners
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yes so uh so I was I was inspired um a
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long time ago uh through my own
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promdress traumas and trials
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um to find a way to remove barriers to
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access to things one of the things um I
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think Melissa mentioned that I'm at
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school right now um I'm an undergrad one
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day I'll be a big grownup PhD but um but
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uh one of the things that we talk about
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in the women's and gender studies
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department is intersectionality and the
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crosses where we have privilege and
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oppression and when you look at the
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demographics of our area um in terms of
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race um median income and that sort of
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things a lot of things like a prom or or
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even a craft class can um have Financial
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access barriers so the prom has uh
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scholarship tickets for kiddos and it
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made me think about well what else would
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be a barrier to access uh and we're
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we're a family of five and feeding those
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teenagers is expensive but now you want
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me to dress them
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up little crotch goblins sucking the
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life out of us and our money let's talk
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transparently a little bit more well we
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are talking transparency and we are
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parents
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so I started to think about that in
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terms of like the Greater Community and
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I I was like what if we could find some
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way to Fairy Godmother this like what if
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we could turn all the little Cinderellas
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and cinderell um into Prince and
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princesses and how do we do that and I
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started talking to some people who are
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involved in the community Thea being one
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of them and she connected me with uh
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Beth at the 757 reu Center oh yeah and I
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kind of pitched my idea and it was just
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like a Seedling of an idea and they were
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both on board and they're like how can
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we help and then we started talking and
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I've I've met with Beth she's adding
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some classes uh over the next couple of
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months to help kids like either make
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bags like beaded bags or jewelry to go
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with their things
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and we we have big dreams and we're
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talking about like what things we could
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add in terms of uh gender affirming
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makeup like contouring and maybe glam
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makeup or how to find things around your
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house to do skincare because again fin
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very so so we're talking to some
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estheticians and some hairdressers I'm a
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retired hairdresser and so just trying
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to figure out what we could do to make
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sure that the kids get to go and um and
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get their Fairy Godmother Bippity boity
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boot on them so that they can have a
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magical night that they deserve in the
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gender affirming clothes that they
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deserve and um we have Big Dreams we're
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hoping it'll be like a long-term thing
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that we loan them out and they bring
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them back by
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midnight or or by
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by Wednesday I think Wednesday probably
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be great yeah um yeah and and with that
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you know I mean as any program grows I
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mean at one time I so I used to serve on
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the board of a local nonprofit here
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called Aid now and uh it started with
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the owner of
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coastal
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Edge did a jeans Drive every year to to
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basically donate so at the high school
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so he would they had these big bins out
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and like the high there was a
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competition between the high schools to
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like who could donate the most like uh
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gently used you know jeans basically um
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and so they had raised I mean they got
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thousands of jeans from all the all the
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high schools in Virginia Beach yeah and
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they donated 1600 pairs to Aid now and
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so those 1600 pairs were in my
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garage because we didn't have any place
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to store them and so my friends were
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like hey hey can we put them in your
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garage I'm like well yeah and we had um
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we had like named it Jewels closet cuz
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it was for uh Virginia Beach city public
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schools the uh the basically the the
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families the need the families with
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higher needs whether they are unhoused
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or they're almost unhoused or whatever
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their needs are to make sure that these
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kids had clothes cuz they had this like
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clothing closet and it had gotten rained
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like they had a roof problem and then we
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were looking at the clothes and we were
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like ew like these kids don't want to
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wear these clothes if these kids come
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down here to get clothes and they look
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they're not taking these clothes so we
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basically wanted to like provide clothes
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gently used fashion forward inst style
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clothes for kids that go to school at
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vbcps and it turned into I mean it
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basically started with these 1600 pairs
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of jeans I did a fundraiser with my
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business and we uh raised enough money
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to pay for the storage unit for like a
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year or whatever um and then we moved to
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a storage unit and then we started
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taking donations and then it was a
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monster and then it turned out into this
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huge thing that we did at the school so
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like I love the I just love the idea of
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starting something like this and like as
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we provide safe spaces for people to be
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their authentic selves the are the
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people will grow which means the need
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will grow one hopes right um and so yeah
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you're going to need a bigger space is
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all I'm saying and I'm just giving you
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my little story of 1600 jeans that I
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feel like we need aace to begin with to
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be totally honest Beth is being really
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kind and lending us the space for this
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year for right now and I think why she
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was a good partner and the ReUse Center
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were a good partner is because it's not
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just about removing Financial barriers
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um to to the event it's also about
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keeping things out of the landfill and
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and trying and trying to as our economy
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continues to shift think about sharing
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swapping Mutual Aid love being kind to
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the planet and to each other and cuz
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we're in a world of f fashion right now
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and like and I even just the consumerism
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I was just I today I was with my
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girlfriend and I was like oh look at
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these Aus slas they're pink with like
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Kelly Green laces and they're so
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cute and I'm like I have to have them
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and I'm like no this is the problem we
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are consumers I'm like I don't need to
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have them I don't I can't even keep all
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the shoes I have like in the place that
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they're supposed to be instead of all
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over my floor I don't need another pair
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of stinking shoes but I want them you
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know um and so we are living in like
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this we we are especially with what's
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about to come down um we need to be
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gardening we need to be canning we need
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to be you know uh H swapping clothes
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like having these more Mutual Aid
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attitudes because that's going to that's
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what's going to happen but I'm living in
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the world of of of Vint
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like half or more of what I own is
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decade or moreal yeah yeah yeah yeah but
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there's there's a lot of skills that go
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into maintaining clothes and also you
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know uh learning how to make new pieces
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out of old pieces and the thing that
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that's really great about the 757
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creative RW Center is they've got those
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classes not just the ones that they're
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hosting for the for the kids for the
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rain so if you are listening to this and
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you're interested if you're in the 757
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area please check us out we're in
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MacArthur mall you can go out there
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anytime there's an art room there's all
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sorts of things like sewing machines and
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all sorts of tools and they all people
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there that can help you learn how to do
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it so not only will there'll be like
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actual fabrics and resources and all
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those things right there where you can
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make things creatively a lot of that was
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going right to the way to the landfill
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and it was saved from going to the
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landfill so you are creatively reusing
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so I absolutely love their mission I'm
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very very fortunate to actually serve on
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their board I'm very very excited to do
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that and I'll always give them plugs and
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the other thing is is that if you're
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outside of the 757 region one of things
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that a lot of people don't realize
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there's a whole network uh if you go to
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the 757 creative revie centers page you
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can find on their social media a map
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there is usually another creative review
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center within a network of creative
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review centers ones that are up in
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Richmond I think there's one out in
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Western Virginia there's one up in Nova
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I believe there's almost like seven or
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eight of them across Virginia so it's a
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sort of thing like if you haven't
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checked out or you haven't looked for
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your creative Reus Center or something
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similar do it that's awesome I love that
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and like you said just the you know
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having them cleaned I mean which is an
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expense which will have to be considered
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obviously with you know all of those
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things yeah with my theater background
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um I I have access to people and
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resources that can help us learn how to
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take care of the costumes and store them
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and are willing to teach other people
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and then the staff there is incredibly
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knowledgeable about fabric care and yeah
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we want to make sure that the kids feel
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special and that they're clean and tidy
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and they're clean and tidy abely it's
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stuff they want not not just right cuz
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that's the thing like people and I mean
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I would get upset when we start taking
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donations like you know they knew we
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were very specific about like these are
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for middle school high school kids we
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were only serving middle school high
00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:07.510
school yeah when we first started and so
00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:10.110
um we were like these kids don't like
00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:11.750
they don't you don't bring your Members
00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:13.350
Mark jacket up in here and trying to
00:23:13.360 --> 00:23:15.590
donate to that to me bro like you know
00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:19.549
what I mean so I just I just I would get
00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:21.390
really or like the like your painting
00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.390
jeans like you like you know yeah there
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:26.870
are some times that vintage retro like
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.710
we can do those but those are very
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:30.590
specific and usually very expensive you
00:23:30.600 --> 00:23:32.390
know what I mean they look like [ __ ] but
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:33.430
they're like
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.310
$600 those right you're like uh I could
00:23:37.320 --> 00:23:40.510
have done that in my garage but okay um
00:23:40.520 --> 00:23:44.630
yeah so how long are you so when how let
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:47.669
me back this up what are you collecting
00:23:47.679 --> 00:23:49.990
and when do you want to have it
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.310
buy um so we're taking almost everything
00:23:54.320 --> 00:23:58.830
um jewelry hats hair pieces
00:23:58.840 --> 00:24:03.470
um dresses suits ties um pocket squares
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.070
anything that you can think of across
00:24:05.080 --> 00:24:08.110
any gender like just nice clothes to go
00:24:08.120 --> 00:24:10.070
out for you would wear for a night like
00:24:10.080 --> 00:24:11.950
a like a
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.870
not but doesn't have to be super fan it
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:16.070
doesn't have to be like a Cinderella
00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:17.990
Ball Gown you know no no just anything
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.909
like an like better than your Sunday
00:24:19.919 --> 00:24:23.430
best but not yeah yeah yeah but not not
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.830
uh not full on ccar you know what I mean
00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:26.870
you're not going out for the night not
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:28.990
the Met Gala not the Met Gala
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.830
I love that eat the rich dress though
00:24:30.840 --> 00:24:33.549
and they get these to you by dropping
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:35.190
them at the creative reuse center yeah
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:36.630
drop off at the creative okay they drop
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.830
off at the ReUse Center um Beth and I
00:24:38.840 --> 00:24:41.710
have chosen a date to like to get the
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:43.389
dresses passed out we're still working
00:24:43.399 --> 00:24:45.269
out some of the things so and we will
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:46.789
continue to take items that was the
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:48.310
other thing that we discussed so even
00:24:48.320 --> 00:24:52.070
after we give everybody's outfits out um
00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:54.269
we have a plan to like if donations come
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.350
in after that and then um we want to get
00:24:57.360 --> 00:24:58.669
together with the kids and make they get
00:24:58.679 --> 00:24:59.909
the alterations that they need so
00:24:59.919 --> 00:25:01.149
that'll be a skill that they're also
00:25:01.159 --> 00:25:03.909
going to um learn when they get their
00:25:03.919 --> 00:25:05.029
outfit so they can make sure their
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.430
outfit looks good feels good that sort
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:09.830
of thing uh I love that multi-purpose
00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:12.669
like also teaching him a scale right
00:25:12.679 --> 00:25:14.870
well it's it's The Homeschool mom and me
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:16.470
yeah yeah you're like I you have to
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.350
learn something Nothing in life comes
00:25:18.360 --> 00:25:19.710
for
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.669
free so so yeah so we I believe are
00:25:23.679 --> 00:25:26.310
going to the prom is May 2nd and I
00:25:26.320 --> 00:25:27.350
believe that we're going to try to get
00:25:27.360 --> 00:25:30.230
everybody's outfits out to to them by 2
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.710
weeks before then don't ask me to math I
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.710
have just calcul mid April so yeah so
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.230
mid April so we really need like the
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:38.590
deadline like I would think by like
00:25:38.600 --> 00:25:40.750
April 10th yeah is you know what I mean
00:25:40.760 --> 00:25:41.870
like is because we want to make sure
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.269
that we have time to clean them and and
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.430
steam them and have them ready to go for
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.789
them to be passed out so so stuff comes
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:50.870
in shoes shoes are great we don't care
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.070
heels we need to go out and my storage
00:25:53.080 --> 00:25:54.310
we need to go out there maybe we can
00:25:54.320 --> 00:25:55.990
help you get rid of some of the problem
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.510
you have oh my gosh yes I have your
00:25:58.520 --> 00:26:01.350
world better and it's very it's shame
00:26:01.360 --> 00:26:04.830
I'm ashamed but anyways um so that's
00:26:04.840 --> 00:26:07.269
fantastic I am excited and I actually
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:09.149
have not only working on my storage but
00:26:09.159 --> 00:26:10.909
I actually have some things in my house
00:26:10.919 --> 00:26:13.310
that I will get with you too and it
00:26:13.320 --> 00:26:15.870
makes it easy because the they have
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.789
regular hours that you can drop so yeah
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:20.389
and there's no you don't have to go at a
00:26:20.399 --> 00:26:22.389
specific time you can just run in and
00:26:22.399 --> 00:26:24.230
drop it off I love that 7day a week
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:25.870
business any day of the week you can
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.789
drop it off at MC um also for for people
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.549
that do watch this um whether you're
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.750
watching now or later um I might I often
00:26:34.760 --> 00:26:36.830
use my business for Mutual Aid like drop
00:26:36.840 --> 00:26:39.389
offs and stuff so um the collective
00:26:39.399 --> 00:26:42.710
tattoo and body piercing at 2720 North
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.350
Mall Drive um if you do not want to go
00:26:45.360 --> 00:26:48.230
to norfol and you live in Virginia Beach
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.110
um you can drop those off at our studio
00:26:52.120 --> 00:26:54.549
anytime so that way and then I will get
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.430
them to you so um but I think that's
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:58.789
important because like you know some
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:00.269
people may like they're like oh I really
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:01.389
like to do it but they don't want to
00:27:01.399 --> 00:27:02.710
drive all the way nor look I'm just
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.870
being real look some people act like
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:06.190
they have to pack a lunch to go to
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.350
norick okay I I like finished payroll to
00:27:09.360 --> 00:27:10.870
I was like I'm coming to get you like
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:12.029
and had to pick you up you know what I
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:13.389
mean in Nori I'm like it's no big deal
00:27:13.399 --> 00:27:16.350
but a lot of people yeah you know again
00:27:16.360 --> 00:27:18.430
accessibility
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.710
and slash laziness we have to
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.549
accommodate for that and my business is
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.630
also open 7 days a week um like Mall
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.990
hours um similar so if um you know it's
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:32.710
just easy access for my Virginia Beach
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.070
people that is so awesome and I
00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:36.230
appreciate that as a Hampton person who
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.990
commutes to norick and V Virginia Beach
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.750
multiple times a week I I'm okay with
00:27:41.760 --> 00:27:44.549
that but you know yeah um yeah but just
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.310
having another place having place thank
00:27:47.320 --> 00:27:49.350
you that that is awesome no problem you
00:27:49.360 --> 00:27:50.909
know what now I'm just thinking like
00:27:50.919 --> 00:27:53.190
where can we have other City drop offs
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.269
well that's and like you know I I might
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:56.909
might need to have like a 5year plan and
00:27:56.919 --> 00:27:59.669
make this a thing make this a thing I
00:27:59.679 --> 00:28:02.909
love this I love this um so we talked we
00:28:02.919 --> 00:28:05.149
covered the rally absolutely the other
00:28:05.159 --> 00:28:06.630
thing I wanted to talk about is we had
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.070
the privilege this week of meeting with
00:28:09.080 --> 00:28:10.789
Sheriff Rocky hulc from Virginia be
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.549
Sheriff's Office did meet with Sheriff
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.710
Rocky I want to hear more about that
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.710
yeah yeah yeah we did we did go meet
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.710
with him um I um you know have
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.230
established a relationship with Sheriff
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:23.830
hokam before it was when he was a
00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:27.669
council person um we we have a very
00:28:27.679 --> 00:28:30.190
interesting relationship yes you really
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.350
do it was let me tell you what like you
00:28:32.360 --> 00:28:33.509
were talking about har sitting in the
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.430
Sheriff's Office being like Oh yes you
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:38.230
know a aab you know did you did you call
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.190
him a snake to his face at one point I I
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:41.950
just said you're the head of the snake I
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.909
was describing I know and he's laughing
00:28:44.919 --> 00:28:46.789
he's got just and he's he because he
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.470
know like she didn't call him a snake
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.669
not the whole snake the I the whole
00:28:50.679 --> 00:28:53.350
snake I just he the and then you know
00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:56.029
but I did go I mean he knows me so it's
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.149
like he he understands but you came in
00:28:58.159 --> 00:28:59.590
and before you said all of that you were
00:28:59.600 --> 00:29:01.630
also like Rocky I'm concerned about
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:02.710
mental healthc care it's like yeah I
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:03.950
know about the inmates like no not the
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:06.230
inmates I'm talking about your officers
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:07.430
that's right so when you come in you're
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:08.830
concerned not that you're not just
00:29:08.840 --> 00:29:10.630
coming at this from a oh all you're
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.190
concerned about this from a holistic
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:13.830
perspective yeah for I really
00:29:13.840 --> 00:29:15.430
appreciated that approach and I feel
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.230
like people should understand that you
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.590
do care and that's why Rocky sees that I
00:29:20.600 --> 00:29:22.190
do because I think people don't realize
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:23.909
like you know they go straight to like
00:29:23.919 --> 00:29:25.870
all cops are bad and I'm like no no no
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.350
all cops and I said this Rocky and I I'm
00:29:28.360 --> 00:29:29.870
not shy about it all cops are
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.149
bastardized the system and then I had to
00:29:32.159 --> 00:29:33.950
you know remind them like hello slave
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.269
Patrol that's where deputies started
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.669
right so um it it is it is a system and
00:29:40.679 --> 00:29:44.350
and it was originated out of the most
00:29:44.360 --> 00:29:45.870
deplorable
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.430
disgusting behavior in human history and
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.789
so so yes all cops are bized it to me
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.149
it's it's just like men it's all men
00:29:58.159 --> 00:30:02.789
until it's no men and men who get
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.990
offended when I say that to them hit dog
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:11.549
on holler right all cops until it's no
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.070
cops and that doesn't mean lack of
00:30:14.080 --> 00:30:16.750
existence on men or cops I mean I
00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:18.630
definitely am an abolitionist for cops
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.310
but regardless either way um not in my
00:30:21.320 --> 00:30:24.430
lifetime but um it just won't happen one
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:25.830
of the things we wanted to talk about I
00:30:25.840 --> 00:30:27.149
know this was really important to
00:30:27.159 --> 00:30:28.789
producer Tai he helped me prepare
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:30.149
questions he went over a lot of the
00:30:30.159 --> 00:30:31.750
specifics was to ask questions about
00:30:31.760 --> 00:30:34.029
what happened to Rolland Hill uh last
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:35.590
October uh there was an inmate at the
00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:37.149
sheriff's office of Virginia Beach that
00:30:37.159 --> 00:30:40.590
unfortunately was um well schmill I
00:30:40.600 --> 00:30:42.389
don't know we're on Tik Tok we're on Tik
00:30:42.399 --> 00:30:45.389
Tok um unived unived um through force of
00:30:45.399 --> 00:30:48.389
force of a asphixiation by the sheriff's
00:30:48.399 --> 00:30:50.950
officers um and there's lots of been lot
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:52.350
been a lot of community concern lots of
00:30:52.360 --> 00:30:54.750
questions trying to find that uh that uh
00:30:54.760 --> 00:30:56.710
body cam footage make sure that's going
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.350
and one of the things that Melissa uh
00:30:58.360 --> 00:30:59.549
through all the faracy work and
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:00.710
knowledge knows is that the Virginia
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:01.750
Beach police department is very
00:31:01.760 --> 00:31:02.990
different than the virin Beach Sheriff's
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.590
Office so while the virin beach police
00:31:04.600 --> 00:31:06.149
department has an independent uh
00:31:06.159 --> 00:31:09.590
committee uh citizen ciew board y um the
00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:11.710
the sheriff's office is not under that
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.070
so because they're a constitutional
00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:14.590
officer as he was explaining to us so
00:31:14.600 --> 00:31:15.789
it's a sort of thing that we' really
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.950
like to see our delegates as well as our
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.110
state leadership realize that you know
00:31:20.120 --> 00:31:21.389
this is a loophole that could easily be
00:31:21.399 --> 00:31:22.509
closed and one of the great things that
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:23.870
I thought throughout of all this was
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:25.269
that Rocky is actually incredibly
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.230
supportive it was supportive of the idea
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:28.909
of this is what's going to make things
00:31:28.919 --> 00:31:30.269
more transparent this is what's going to
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.110
make things easier for me to be able to
00:31:32.120 --> 00:31:34.190
to navigate these things and also for us
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.909
to provide better services to the
00:31:35.919 --> 00:31:38.029
community because our community gives us
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:39.710
that feedback and is also involved in
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.350
the process correct and um you know the
00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:44.509
thing with Rocky like my establish you
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:45.870
you know how I've established a
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:47.710
relationship he and I have I mean listen
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.029
that man will tell you I used to drag
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.389
the [ __ ] out of him at city council um
00:31:51.399 --> 00:31:53.310
and and and then one day we just there
00:31:53.320 --> 00:31:55.269
was something we he made a joke about
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:56.590
and and I agreed with him and we were
00:31:56.600 --> 00:31:58.430
like oh he was like look there Melissa
00:31:58.440 --> 00:31:59.950
we I think I don't know if it I think
00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:02.110
I'm pretty sure it was backyard chickens
00:32:02.120 --> 00:32:04.629
I but it was we we agreed on something
00:32:04.639 --> 00:32:06.029
that he was like look there Melissa we
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.669
agreed on something and then and then
00:32:07.679 --> 00:32:09.230
there was something else we agreed on
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.950
and he was like so he was intentional
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.389
with his like and there was like slow
00:32:14.399 --> 00:32:17.629
motion yeah running and yeah
00:32:17.639 --> 00:32:20.310
inspirational
00:32:20.320 --> 00:32:23.389
music but like he was literally so so
00:32:23.399 --> 00:32:25.549
you know I like I had to respect him for
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:27.509
the fact that like I have definitely
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.350
like publicly you know what I mean like
00:32:29.360 --> 00:32:31.590
on a public platform been not very nice
00:32:31.600 --> 00:32:35.310
to him um initially you know and then he
00:32:35.320 --> 00:32:36.870
definitely was happy when I moved along
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.509
to a different council person you know
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.950
somebody else got my attention so always
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:43.230
I always joke that like Council people
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:44.350
and Schoolboard people like their
00:32:44.360 --> 00:32:45.750
butthole puckers up when I walk up the
00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:46.909
podium because they're just like oh
00:32:46.919 --> 00:32:48.990
who's going to get it tonight so it's
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:50.389
not just Beware of the eyeses of March
00:32:50.399 --> 00:32:52.029
it's Beware of the eyes of Melissa yeah
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.629
literally they should play look at all
00:32:53.639 --> 00:32:55.310
the board meetings like in Council they
00:32:55.320 --> 00:32:57.190
should just play the Imperial Death
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.590
March when I come walking down to the
00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:01.389
it's not that bad are you kidding are
00:33:01.399 --> 00:33:02.830
you kidding
00:33:02.840 --> 00:33:05.789
me if there was like you know entrance
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.789
music I made some school board members
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:11.269
cry but okay so I don't I mean I am
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:12.710
proud of that actually they deserved it
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.950
so but back to Rocky um so he you know
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:17.669
he has taken some [ __ ] for me and so I
00:33:17.679 --> 00:33:19.470
do have some respect for him and then
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:25.029
coming into I I did hise his predecessor
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.549
um we had a very difficult relationship
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.269
and and I had actually that started
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.629
because I inquired about mental health
00:33:32.639 --> 00:33:35.389
um and you know he felt he made a lot of
00:33:35.399 --> 00:33:37.430
improvements which I didn't argue with
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:38.789
him but that doesn't mean that there's
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.350
not room for improvement and that just
00:33:41.360 --> 00:33:43.430
declined terribly because he does not
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.029
that man didn't know how to talk to
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.870
constituents Rocky however was always
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.590
open to having conversations and hearing
00:33:50.600 --> 00:33:52.830
and and Rocky will tell you I have you
00:33:52.840 --> 00:33:55.029
know said things to him where you know
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.269
he is like Melissa you know and I'm like
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.269
but let me explain to you why and one of
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.669
the things that I like about that is
00:34:02.679 --> 00:34:05.269
that he actually wants to hear like he
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.030
he he wants to understand right um he
00:34:08.040 --> 00:34:09.990
may leave the conversation still having
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.069
whatever opinion he has but like he made
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.990
the good faith effort and so when he
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.310
became sheriff because staly
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.349
retired he said he wanted to make change
00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:21.750
and within I think a month he invited me
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.270
to do a jail
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.629
tour um and and one of the things I will
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.909
tell you about rock
00:34:28.919 --> 00:34:30.869
is when that man takes you on a tour of
00:34:30.879 --> 00:34:32.669
jail I told you Theo when he I'm going
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.550
to get Theo he's going to give Theo a
00:34:34.560 --> 00:34:36.710
tour of the jail I I'll go you know do
00:34:36.720 --> 00:34:38.190
it again because it's always fun but
00:34:38.200 --> 00:34:40.270
like he's like a kid and not in a not in
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:41.790
a mean way like he's like a little kid
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.270
like he's very proud of the institution
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.030
which makes me like it's like this is
00:34:48.040 --> 00:34:49.470
where we keep our people this is where
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.430
we keep our people but on the flip yeah
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.550
but right however but there you go like
00:34:55.560 --> 00:34:58.990
right but so that's why I'm like but on
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.950
but this is the society we live
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:07.670
in and when you are overseeing and you
00:35:07.680 --> 00:35:10.750
are the person that is overseeing people
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.630
who have temporarily lost their
00:35:13.640 --> 00:35:18.030
constitutional rights and 70% of them on
00:35:18.040 --> 00:35:20.910
average do not look like
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.550
you it is very important that we have
00:35:24.560 --> 00:35:27.109
someone in the highest constitutional
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:31.870
office in the whole state that they are
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:33.790
wanting to be transparent and they they
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:34.990
want those things so those are things
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:36.630
that I've seen in Rocky and listen you
00:35:36.640 --> 00:35:38.550
know Democrats will [ __ ] on me because
00:35:38.560 --> 00:35:40.430
like I you know have an affinity of
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.910
Rocky like I just think I I think that
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.470
we're not getting a better choice so we
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.630
should work with the one the person
00:35:47.640 --> 00:35:49.470
that's there if someone has an issue
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.270
with me going and talking with the with
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.150
the fim Sheriff one of the things that I
00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:54.670
think is really important to remember is
00:35:54.680 --> 00:35:57.030
is that now that F Sheriff has met a
00:35:57.040 --> 00:36:00.630
transwoman
00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:01.950
now that sheriff
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.430
has all and also that we were to make
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:06.990
connections so if there are trans
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.430
inmates who are out there there are ways
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.069
that we can Advocate and I'm hoping that
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:11.109
as I continue to develop that
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:12.750
relationship the thing is that I'm most
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:14.470
concerned about we also question about
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.270
was the treatment of trans inmates and
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.030
how those different things are handled I
00:36:18.040 --> 00:36:20.150
got some you know some different answers
00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:21.670
which are not always the great things
00:36:21.680 --> 00:36:23.390
you want to hear oh yeah I definitely
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:24.829
was just about to say the same thing the
00:36:24.839 --> 00:36:26.470
second he was like well we follow priia
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.790
and I was like am I just chest I like I
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.589
definitely felt like which is the prison
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.109
rape is something don't ask me for the
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.150
Acron right now P EA it's a federal
00:36:37.160 --> 00:36:38.790
piece of legislation as he explained
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.349
that was eventually signed by Obama
00:36:40.359 --> 00:36:42.150
introduced under the Bush Administration
00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:43.870
and basically it is something that is
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.550
trying to stop sexual assaults and rapes
00:36:45.560 --> 00:36:47.230
inside of prisons and all sorts of
00:36:47.240 --> 00:36:49.069
things and basically what he explained
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.150
you know in in very very inelegant terms
00:36:51.160 --> 00:36:52.470
is you know they do it based off of
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.390
waist down you know how somebody where
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.550
they'll put somebody um and then the
00:36:56.560 --> 00:36:58.109
only other things that they can offer
00:36:58.119 --> 00:36:59.510
are what is protective C basically
00:36:59.520 --> 00:37:01.109
solitary confinement basically solitary
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.910
confinement or like because it is a
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.589
local jail and I have toward the jail
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:06.390
there
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.069
are it's not like a solitary confinement
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.430
per se but like a smaller room or um the
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:13.910
way he kind of described was there was
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.349
kind of it's like you can go and like
00:37:15.359 --> 00:37:16.870
gen pop you know what I mean if you want
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.589
but like if you're not comfortable and
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.870
the one thing that I that he did say
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.349
which you know I mean I have no choice
00:37:23.359 --> 00:37:25.589
but to believe him because I'm not in
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.230
there to prove him you know this is a
00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:29.790
relationship that we have built on trust
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:31.910
and I am very clear with Rocky like if
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:36.030
you break my trust I will be a menace
00:37:36.040 --> 00:37:37.910
you know what I mean so like don't break
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.430
my trust and I don't I mean I think he
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:42.950
respects that right so he says that they
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.390
you know he asks they ask the deputies
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.150
ask where where would they be
00:37:47.160 --> 00:37:49.069
comfortable like how do they want to go
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:50.829
in solitary like where where's their
00:37:50.839 --> 00:37:53.109
comfort level and interacting right he
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.309
also said that they haven't had many
00:37:56.319 --> 00:37:59.750
trans people come in to the jail um they
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.390
have had some but not so they so they
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.190
lack experience also I mean you know if
00:38:05.200 --> 00:38:07.589
a deputy only interacts with one
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.030
transperson over the course of you know
00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:12.829
a couple years right it's not that's not
00:38:12.839 --> 00:38:15.390
doing anything for them to continually
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.349
be exposure I mean I I did tell Theo
00:38:17.359 --> 00:38:19.030
when we pulled up I was like what I'm
00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:21.510
doing is a little bit of what did I say
00:38:21.520 --> 00:38:23.390
exposure therapy exposure therapy I was
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.109
like we're doing a little exposure
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.190
therapy um you know and just and I loved
00:38:28.200 --> 00:38:31.030
it and um I will tell you Rocky called
00:38:31.040 --> 00:38:32.069
me
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:34.870
yesterday and yeah I think yesterday no
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.430
it was Wednesday day after and said you
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:38.870
know it was a great meeting really
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.030
enjoyed meeting you um and someone said
00:38:44.040 --> 00:38:46.190
someone said one of I think one of his
00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:51.870
Majors saw us leaving MH and said who is
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.589
that lady with
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.750
Melissa and he was like I was so happy
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.230
like that they you know and it's it's
00:39:01.240 --> 00:39:02.589
that stuff
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.510
right it's just that Well's it's better
00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:07.550
of seeing us as humans I was able to sit
00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:09.069
there and impart like you know because
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:10.790
he maybe he sees these different things
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.750
or hears these different things but I I
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.030
was able to tell him you know there's
00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:16.670
4,500 to 6,000 trans people inside of
00:39:16.680 --> 00:39:19.109
Virginia Beach alone inside the city um
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:20.470
and you know one of the remarks he said
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.390
trans people are not the problem I mean
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.990
I hardly ever see trans people cuz we're
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:25.430
not criminals and I was able to say you
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.150
know what on top of us having a reduced
00:39:27.160 --> 00:39:28.829
rate criminality we also have a higher
00:39:28.839 --> 00:39:30.309
rate of serving in the in the military
00:39:30.319 --> 00:39:31.550
service and other different things and
00:39:31.560 --> 00:39:33.870
doing public service because we are
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:35.470
generally speaking trying to be our best
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.550
s we've made that conscious decision and
00:39:37.560 --> 00:39:39.349
it was something I think that really was
00:39:39.359 --> 00:39:41.550
obvious to him and it resonated with him
00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:43.630
and the more that he sees us as humans
00:39:43.640 --> 00:39:46.030
the harder it will be for him given
00:39:46.040 --> 00:39:48.030
State changes laws to see us as this
00:39:48.040 --> 00:39:49.910
sort of evil now do do I have the navity
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.630
to believe that a police officer or
00:39:51.640 --> 00:39:53.270
sheriff is not going to follow a change
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.950
of law if all of a sudden state or
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:56.589
federal laws were to come down that were
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.150
to criminalize people but I do think
00:39:59.160 --> 00:40:02.430
that that sort of advocacy matters it
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:04.109
does because if there is going to be
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:05.630
push back if there are going to be
00:40:05.640 --> 00:40:06.910
people who are going to stop that in
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.950
different positions of power it's going
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:10.630
to be those people that are elected
00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:12.150
officials nine times out of 10 so we
00:40:12.160 --> 00:40:14.309
have our sheriffs but then also um it's
00:40:14.319 --> 00:40:16.150
going to be people who can put faces to
00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:18.710
names have specific memories go you know
00:40:18.720 --> 00:40:19.990
what that person did this work and this
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:21.870
person's worked with me on this before
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.109
and that's what community building is
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.670
all about that's right Y and and it is
00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:28.550
going to matter cuz it is are
00:40:28.560 --> 00:40:32.030
seeing a lot of those those laws I think
00:40:32.040 --> 00:40:34.030
the the
00:40:34.040 --> 00:40:36.990
new one that scared the heck out of me
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.829
today just cuz it feels like a new just
00:40:40.839 --> 00:40:44.790
like a new strategy mhm um I think it's
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.190
uh Texas House Bill
00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:49.550
8317 got
00:40:49.560 --> 00:40:51.990
introduced and what is that mean it
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.510
would make it a
00:40:54.520 --> 00:40:58.190
felony a a jailable felony
00:40:58.200 --> 00:41:01.470
in the state of Texas
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.390
to
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:06.190
verbally to to in writing or
00:41:06.200 --> 00:41:08.630
verbally
00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:12.349
um lie or
00:41:12.359 --> 00:41:16.349
mislead an employer or the
00:41:16.359 --> 00:41:20.790
government um about your biological
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.910
sex what yep so are they going to start
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.630
running genetic tests like the science
00:41:26.640 --> 00:41:30.150
oh my God I know just the ignorance
00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:32.270
today I'm like Cody you just dropped
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:33.829
that one you know it's so preent because
00:41:33.839 --> 00:41:35.630
I was actually I don't know if I've
00:41:35.640 --> 00:41:36.710
talked about this on the podcast before
00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:38.309
I haven't actually updated my name even
00:41:38.319 --> 00:41:39.990
though I run a trans nonprofit is one of
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.470
the things that I just haven't got
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.030
around to doing so now that we're under
00:41:43.040 --> 00:41:44.630
fash that's when I decided to do it I
00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:45.390
was at the Social Security
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.150
Administration this morning oh I was
00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:49.430
actually down there at the office um and
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.030
uh with my paperwork all the different
00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:53.109
things to get my Social Security updated
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:54.390
and of course they would not update my
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:55.790
gender Mark even though I had letters
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.230
from my doctors and all sorts of other
00:41:57.240 --> 00:41:58.390
the different things CU that's the
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.589
current policy that they implemented I I
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.470
expected that I talked to the ACLU and
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.150
other legal Advocates so they weren't
00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:06.630
able to do that um but it is interesting
00:42:06.640 --> 00:42:08.510
because now that Social Security still
00:42:08.520 --> 00:42:10.870
has that wrong you know I'm updating my
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:12.309
birth certificate updating my driver's
00:42:12.319 --> 00:42:13.349
license all those sorts of things on a
00:42:13.359 --> 00:42:15.670
state level which I'm allowed to do
00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:17.150
because we live in Virginia and we have
00:42:17.160 --> 00:42:19.270
the amazing Dan and all sorts of other
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.390
different Democrats who have been
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.750
fighting for us but it puts me in a
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:23.990
position where if the federal government
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.470
wanted to pull my card and be like well
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.390
you lied on this and you lied on it
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:28.630
became like a federal law what you're
00:42:28.640 --> 00:42:29.710
how what you're talking about became
00:42:29.720 --> 00:42:32.109
some sort of federal model or something
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:33.750
or if the if we lost the state house and
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:35.670
all of a sudden became a Virginia law
00:42:35.680 --> 00:42:38.230
they could use that to uh incarcerate me
00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:39.309
and there's nothing I can do about it I
00:42:39.319 --> 00:42:41.030
can't update the system inside but you
00:42:41.040 --> 00:42:43.030
know and this is what they're trying to
00:42:43.040 --> 00:42:45.510
do to force us to be fearful but also
00:42:45.520 --> 00:42:47.790
for them to have teeth to come after us
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:48.950
and it's really strange because the
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.230
ultimate goal of all of this really is
00:42:51.240 --> 00:42:54.190
to push us back in the closet um Andor
00:42:54.200 --> 00:42:56.910
put us in prison which is a terrifying
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:58.670
thing to do to a group of people as we
00:42:58.680 --> 00:43:00.870
just talked about have a lower Crim risk
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.630
rate of criminality a higher risk of
00:43:02.640 --> 00:43:04.829
Public Service public service and are
00:43:04.839 --> 00:43:08.549
generally bright I I think I think
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.309
for cuz yes that's part of the ultimate
00:43:11.319 --> 00:43:13.069
goal but I think the ultimate goal and
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:14.750
this is what people really need to
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.190
realize the ultimate
00:43:17.200 --> 00:43:18.750
goal
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.630
um
00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:24.270
despite um the the the trans
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.349
population um immigrant population
00:43:27.359 --> 00:43:29.910
besides these vulnerable populations you
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.230
know being attacked that's that's a
00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:34.870
symptom of the ultimate goal right the
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.069
the the ultimate goal is for people to
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:39.069
not
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:40.589
realize
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.990
that
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.230
um what color or gender or orientation
00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:48.829
you were born has nothing to do with
00:43:48.839 --> 00:43:51.390
being a criminal that has to do with
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.510
poverty that's right the the ultimate
00:43:54.520 --> 00:43:57.870
goal is to not
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.150
let people realize that the biggest
00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:02.589
reason Rome fell was income inequality
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.790
that's right allowed to corruption and
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:10.230
dictatorship um hello today 2025 the
00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:12.390
ultimate goal is for people not to
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.630
realize who the ultimate um antagonizer
00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:19.270
an enemy really is what the ultimate
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.309
root cause of this is um so that they
00:44:22.319 --> 00:44:24.829
don't see that all of these different
00:44:24.839 --> 00:44:27.390
government decisions are only taken away
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:29.030
resources from the people that need them
00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:30.630
and pumping them up to the people that
00:44:30.640 --> 00:44:32.549
don't that's right that that these
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.950
different executive decisions that
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.549
eliminate oversight of
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.829
Corporations um put our safety and
00:44:41.839 --> 00:44:45.230
health at risk put our work environments
00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:47.510
at risk
00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:50.950
um our food supplies at risk I mean I
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:57.109
mean I like all of that and here we sit
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.470
in 2025 and and and that's that's what
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.430
the ultimate goal is the ultimate goal
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:03.670
is to
00:45:03.680 --> 00:45:06.589
keep everybody from realizing that they
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.990
are getting the blood just sucked out of
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.750
them so it's sport for sport the same
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:14.309
reason the Romans had the Coliseum they
00:45:14.319 --> 00:45:16.030
wanted to make sure that people they're
00:45:16.040 --> 00:45:18.030
painting Bull's eyes on my back for this
00:45:18.040 --> 00:45:21.630
is this is the Coliseum yep for the the
00:45:21.640 --> 00:45:24.710
fall of America yep yeah that's that's
00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:26.349
that that's how pathetic like honestly
00:45:26.359 --> 00:45:27.790
you want to come out trans people that's
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:29.910
Entertainment although I guess Ben so I
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.150
shouldn't call them out directly but all
00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:33.390
these different right-wing uh podcasters
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:35.630
we can call them out I guess all that's
00:45:35.640 --> 00:45:37.109
what they do they've gotten millions of
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:38.670
dollars off even Dave Chappelle we've
00:45:38.680 --> 00:45:40.549
talked about it Russia all these sorts
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:41.670
like we can talk about all these people
00:45:41.680 --> 00:45:43.430
who've turned us into a spectacle that
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:44.750
they've been able to monetize to the
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.349
tunes of tens of millions of dollars and
00:45:46.359 --> 00:45:48.150
yeah I mean how else can you see it but
00:45:48.160 --> 00:45:49.910
a sport and and that's I think I think
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:51.990
people miss that we we missed that in
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.030
history even the ultimate goal of 1930s
00:45:55.040 --> 00:45:57.430
Germany was not to
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.829
eliminate the Jewish population correct
00:45:59.839 --> 00:46:01.150
if that were the goal they wouldn't have
00:46:01.160 --> 00:46:02.950
tried to start taking over the world
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:04.309
that's right that's right right the
00:46:04.319 --> 00:46:07.710
ultimate goal is to keep everybody
00:46:07.720 --> 00:46:10.870
distracted with that hate while they do
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.910
absolutely whatever they want to get
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:16.589
control of all of the Power and then
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.030
they they don't care at that point and
00:46:19.040 --> 00:46:21.150
that and that's what's frustrating so
00:46:21.160 --> 00:46:22.190
bad when you
00:46:22.200 --> 00:46:25.470
hear the bear with me right in this
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:27.910
scenario right the bear bear with me by
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.829
the time people are done bearing with
00:46:29.839 --> 00:46:32.030
them they won't be able to do anything
00:46:32.040 --> 00:46:33.390
about how everything's been taken away
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.309
from them correct yeah oh that is AB and
00:46:36.319 --> 00:46:38.270
that's that's exactly what I mean people
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.829
miss that about rights MH when you let
00:46:40.839 --> 00:46:43.589
somebody else's right get taken away mhm
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.470
you're right left with it yep you no
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.109
longer have that right you might still
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.270
be receiving access to whatever that is
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.670
your right to it is gone and as soon as
00:46:53.680 --> 00:46:55.829
it is inconvenient for your right to it
00:46:55.839 --> 00:46:58.109
for your access to it exist that's when
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.750
you find out you right to it left when
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.390
you let somebody else's right to it go
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.670
with them bam that part and that's every
00:47:03.680 --> 00:47:06.109
single part of it C on fire you you let
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.030
somebody else's right to be included go
00:47:08.040 --> 00:47:10.309
away yep when it's no longer convenient
00:47:10.319 --> 00:47:12.910
to include you you find out you let your
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.309
right to be included go away with it
00:47:15.319 --> 00:47:17.990
that's right exactly um also I we
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:19.990
haven't talked about this and I actually
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.829
on I found out Wednesday um and I
00:47:22.839 --> 00:47:25.109
actually I was telling Rocky about this
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:26.910
because I said well this affects your
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.790
family because your daughter you know
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.230
what I mean so I was like look um the
00:47:33.240 --> 00:47:37.190
DHS just came out and said that well
00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:39.190
they didn't say it they just they just
00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:43.510
changed it out of the uh um uh
00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:45.549
surveillance uh intelligence
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.230
surveillance mhm so now on the website
00:47:49.240 --> 00:47:51.589
they've taken
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:56.190
lgbtq from the uh that they they've T so
00:47:56.200 --> 00:47:57.390
basically
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.950
race um sex religion all of that
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.190
for are
00:48:04.200 --> 00:48:06.990
protected those are all
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.710
protections
00:48:08.720 --> 00:48:11.430
for essentially
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.309
surveillance and they just removed lgbtq
00:48:14.319 --> 00:48:16.270
so they all they did that's the only
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.670
change they made was just to remove that
00:48:18.680 --> 00:48:23.430
so why so ha why why' you do that
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.430
surveillance so like now the government
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.030
you're is you're not we're not we're not
00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:31.829
protected from being surveilled by the
00:48:31.839 --> 00:48:36.150
government now that's disgusting and
00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:38.349
terrifying oh yeah if you look on the
00:48:38.359 --> 00:48:42.309
FBI's uh watch list of words I feel like
00:48:42.319 --> 00:48:43.510
like there's like name there I feel like
00:48:43.520 --> 00:48:46.030
it's my it's a description of me like
00:48:46.040 --> 00:48:48.030
woman you know cares about these
00:48:48.040 --> 00:48:51.150
communities like yeah it it's very
00:48:51.160 --> 00:48:53.430
targeted and I it makes me think about
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.349
that poem like first they came for first
00:48:55.359 --> 00:48:57.710
they came and I'm like well it's it's
00:48:57.720 --> 00:49:02.069
super easy to see how this I mean how
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.829
exactly that plays out right I mean
00:49:04.839 --> 00:49:06.589
let's just let's just
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:11.789
take average CIS straight American male
00:49:11.799 --> 00:49:14.030
yep blue I got one of those at home blue
00:49:14.040 --> 00:49:15.710
collar I got one of those home regular
00:49:15.720 --> 00:49:17.910
regular job that I mean that's that's me
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.309
yeah yeah um Blue Collar regular
00:49:21.319 --> 00:49:23.430
American job all right but we've gotten
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:27.349
rid of a lot of things through these um
00:49:27.359 --> 00:49:28.750
you know government
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.069
oversight you know a lot lot of the the
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:33.430
protections and regulations and even if
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.910
they're still there the ability to
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.829
enforce any of them they're they're
00:49:37.839 --> 00:49:39.470
they're gone I mean heck we already
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:40.750
struggle with this a little bit in our
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.589
country or we wouldn't have found miners
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.030
cleaning Buzz saws at meat factories
00:49:46.040 --> 00:49:47.910
multiple times in the last work at the
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.390
Hyundai plant in Alabama yeah um and so
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.710
so so clearly we're already
00:49:53.720 --> 00:49:57.750
not um able to to completely enforce
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.950
this so let's imagine a world where
00:49:59.960 --> 00:50:02.589
we've cut that further and further away
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:04.950
and now I don't have protections at work
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.549
and now
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:09.710
millions of straight white American
00:50:09.720 --> 00:50:11.750
middle class Blue Collar men don't
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.829
either and now we're getting sicker more
00:50:14.839 --> 00:50:17.630
MH all right but now now our health care
00:50:17.640 --> 00:50:20.670
is is more we're becoming more disabled
00:50:20.680 --> 00:50:24.910
Medicaid is is is is more um and it's
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:27.870
just not economic
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.430
viable to sustain this no and so we're
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:34.270
just not going to that's that access is
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.030
no longer required to be covered by
00:50:37.040 --> 00:50:40.109
Insurance um and and we can uproar about
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:44.670
that mhm but guess what we already did
00:50:44.680 --> 00:50:48.470
that we already said we could do that
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:50.549
well there was only one
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.150
Luigi although there was one could be
00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:54.870
more but there are still so many are
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:57.150
still there so Health CE so many
00:50:57.160 --> 00:50:59.870
healthare CEOs I just I feel like I feel
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.270
like a frog in the pot that doesn't know
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.870
it's being boiled except I'm I'm
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.030
cognizant of the boiling like I can see
00:51:07.040 --> 00:51:10.870
the flame and and it's so difficult to
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:12.349
have those conversations the
00:51:12.359 --> 00:51:14.190
storytelling things that we learned in
00:51:14.200 --> 00:51:17.030
our leadership cohort connecting with
00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:19.670
people I'm taking some classes um this
00:51:19.680 --> 00:51:21.349
semester and we're talking about
00:51:21.359 --> 00:51:23.390
diversity equity and inclusion Justice
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:25.030
we are talking about environmental
00:51:25.040 --> 00:51:28.030
issues how they're tied
00:51:28.040 --> 00:51:31.470
um and watching it play out in real time
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.589
the stuff that we're studying in school
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:35.750
that was supposed to be historical and
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.990
help inform me as an advocate and an
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.750
educator one day like I'm like this is
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:42.950
really hard to like live my homework
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.109
while I'm trying to turn it in you know
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.670
and we were talking about that and
00:51:48.680 --> 00:51:50.910
it's it's so
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.230
sural you know but I don't want to be
00:51:53.240 --> 00:51:56.589
the person who when my grandchildren ask
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:59.109
as well where were you Nana when this
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.109
was going on I was in those streets and
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.270
I was screaming I was also holding hands
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:04.870
of people who needed it and you know
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:06.030
what I was trying to put a little bit of
00:52:06.040 --> 00:52:08.349
sparkly fun in the world yeah as a as a
00:52:08.359 --> 00:52:10.789
maintenance supervisor like I literally
00:52:10.799 --> 00:52:14.750
spent a good half of my lunch break um
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.710
in my head uh figuring out how I could
00:52:17.720 --> 00:52:20.470
convert the linen closet um in my
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:24.030
apartment to look like a intake vent for
00:52:24.040 --> 00:52:27.670
HVAC yeah um with a a door so somebody
00:52:27.680 --> 00:52:29.069
could hide in it and then if they just
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:30.630
open the vent to look even it would
00:52:30.640 --> 00:52:33.390
still just look like an hbac duck I mean
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.390
this is where we
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.950
are I I have thought about I've thought
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.510
about like converting our garage like
00:52:40.520 --> 00:52:43.349
could we have like a a false attic and
00:52:43.359 --> 00:52:45.990
like insulated I can make one for you I
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.630
you know what I might take you up on
00:52:47.640 --> 00:52:49.430
that coding but yeah like the fact that
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.270
people like everyday people who just
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:52.670
want to feed their kids and go to work
00:52:52.680 --> 00:52:54.549
and live their lives like trans people
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:56.670
lgbtq people black and brown people
00:52:56.680 --> 00:52:59.670
women like we just want to freaking live
00:52:59.680 --> 00:53:02.630
and have access to things that we the
00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:06.109
same thing that everybody else has know
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.710
shocking what makes that so radical like
00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:10.630
I I would like to go to school I would
00:53:10.640 --> 00:53:13.870
like to feed my children I yeah I would
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:16.390
like to not have to like worry that my
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.910
healthc care is tied to my husband's job
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:20.789
and that I might lose access to it
00:53:20.799 --> 00:53:23.190
because we piss the wrong people off cuz
00:53:23.200 --> 00:53:25.589
we have the wrong things associated with
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:27.950
us on the list yeah well I mean what
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:29.270
what was it said they're they're
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.630
certainly worried about the wrong small
00:53:31.640 --> 00:53:33.990
percentage of people you know um yeah
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:34.990
the wrong
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.109
1% okay well I have I think it's more
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.470
than it's a little bit more more than 1%
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.069
but still the the the I'm going talk
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:43.150
about the billionaire class you know the
00:53:43.160 --> 00:53:45.430
wrong oh yeah sorry yeah no it's the
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:46.990
billionaire class they're less than 1%
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:48.150
they're like
00:53:48.160 --> 00:53:50.230
point I feel like it's shrinking as they
00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:52.270
get closer to trillions well yeah
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:53.950
because there can only be so many of
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:55.589
them as the wealth continues to
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.390
consolidate All In one place I mean the
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:59.549
whole the problem is it's all half
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:01.870
formed thoughts right halfway through
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.510
tariffs you you you oh it's going to
00:54:04.520 --> 00:54:07.829
bring jobs back we already have million
00:54:07.839 --> 00:54:10.230
plus more jobs than we can fill even if
00:54:10.240 --> 00:54:12.910
every single person was employed um you
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.589
know all of it is is half form thoughts
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.950
they never think it all the way through
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.710
to to the end well I was just thinking
00:54:20.720 --> 00:54:23.789
too I just heard like a day or two ago
00:54:23.799 --> 00:54:26.710
that um you know how the conservatives
00:54:26.720 --> 00:54:29.270
scream about Black Rock black rock owns
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.150
everything which they're not wrong okay
00:54:32.160 --> 00:54:35.670
they're not wrong the coch brothers you
00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:39.870
Mur right right right um black rock well
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:41.670
guess guess who bought the other side of
00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:44.470
the Panama Canal y'all It Black Rock
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.109
black rock so now they own the North End
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.150
and the south end and guess who let them
00:54:49.160 --> 00:54:51.710
do it Donald
00:54:51.720 --> 00:54:56.390
Trump okay so all these Republicans
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.789
screaming about Black Rock you know what
00:54:58.799 --> 00:55:01.190
I mean like they don't even know who is
00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:03.230
screwing them over they're literally
00:55:03.240 --> 00:55:05.390
screaming about the people they're like
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:08.549
the [ __ ] frogs in the pot like how do
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.630
you not know that these are the people
00:55:11.640 --> 00:55:14.549
screwing you over but here's the thing a
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.390
lot of these people at the we talk about
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:17.309
black frck we're talking about some of
00:55:17.319 --> 00:55:19.470
the literally the most potent and
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.190
Powerful companies that own stock and
00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:22.710
are sit on the boards and oversee some
00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:24.270
of the larger corporations World they've
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:25.870
gone to the Business Schools they've
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:27.150
taught some of them taught at Business
00:55:27.160 --> 00:55:28.789
Schools they've helped write the laws
00:55:28.799 --> 00:55:31.549
for decades they have understanding of a
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.750
system brothers are in doj the Broar the
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:36.789
Broar but then never mind the corporate
00:55:36.799 --> 00:55:38.349
shell game that they constantly play
00:55:38.359 --> 00:55:39.670
with all the different subsidiaries all
00:55:39.680 --> 00:55:40.910
the different holding companies all the
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:41.910
different countries all the different
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.710
ways that currencies are going so the
00:55:43.720 --> 00:55:45.950
idea that the average American voter can
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.069
be actually informed on something like
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:50.150
that is kind of part and part of why it
00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:51.670
is so complicated and why they do the
00:55:51.680 --> 00:55:53.109
things that they do not only so that
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:54.230
they can avoid like public
00:55:54.240 --> 00:55:55.309
accountability but just even
00:55:55.319 --> 00:55:56.910
accountability from people at SEC or
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:58.430
from other government agencies because a
00:55:58.440 --> 00:55:59.990
lot of those people are paid on
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.029
government salaries versus them hiring
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.630
out people who can pay people millions
00:56:03.640 --> 00:56:05.069
of dollars to come work with them so
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.349
there's a there's an an information and
00:56:07.359 --> 00:56:09.230
a power asymmetry that exists because
00:56:09.240 --> 00:56:11.789
we're talking about raw capitalistic
00:56:11.799 --> 00:56:13.549
power on like an international level
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.430
these people also own like 5 to 10% of
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:16.910
your health insurance company like
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:18.510
whenever they get like a billion dollars
00:56:18.520 --> 00:56:19.710
in dividends every quarter they're
00:56:19.720 --> 00:56:21.829
getting like you know tens of millions
00:56:21.839 --> 00:56:23.549
of dollars off of your so like we talk
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:24.750
about like the conservatives aren't
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.309
wrong like when they talk
00:56:27.319 --> 00:56:29.589
theyit their criticism and their like
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.390
analysis point is never gets followed
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:32.789
through and the other thing I wanted to
00:56:32.799 --> 00:56:34.510
bring back on just real quick is C
00:56:34.520 --> 00:56:36.390
talking about how we lose rights this
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:37.510
isn't just a matter of not being
00:56:37.520 --> 00:56:39.710
surveilled by the government lgbtq plus
00:56:39.720 --> 00:56:41.029
people have lost housing rights
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:43.230
workplace protection like yes we all are
00:56:43.240 --> 00:56:44.829
potentially about to lose OSHA based off
00:56:44.839 --> 00:56:46.670
of house law legislation and crazy
00:56:46.680 --> 00:56:48.270
things that are that are being debated
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.430
but like already if there was a a
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.349
problem at my employment at anyone's
00:56:52.359 --> 00:56:53.750
employment that was based off of
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:55.150
discrimination off of sexual identity or
00:56:55.160 --> 00:56:57.470
gender identity the equal employment
00:56:57.480 --> 00:56:58.910
would not hear your case they would you
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.789
have no protections and it's a sort of
00:57:00.799 --> 00:57:02.950
thing that that means as you're were
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:04.910
saying you do have no protections you
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:06.510
straight person over like it's just a
00:57:06.520 --> 00:57:08.029
matter of time and you don't believe it
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.430
you think it's going to stop it's never
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.950
it was hilarious to listen to talk about
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.910
um dirty food coming in from other
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:16.390
countries while at the same time
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:17.950
eliminating the people that would make
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.430
our food clean right exactly same with
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:22.829
the air traffic controllers all these
00:57:22.839 --> 00:57:24.349
people and the the at the State of the
00:57:24.359 --> 00:57:26.549
Union which I did not watch and and I'm
00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.190
so glad I didn't um like my mental state
00:57:29.200 --> 00:57:30.870
cannot handle I can only handle so much
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:33.109
mango musolini time mango musolini about
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.910
a half hour in okay so but brought like
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.430
they they literally brought like you
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:42.190
know F Focus this this kid this poor kid
00:57:42.200 --> 00:57:45.549
that have brain cancer right um while
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.670
they're defunding cancer research so
00:57:48.680 --> 00:57:51.349
they're like mad at the Democrats I
00:57:51.359 --> 00:57:52.670
guess because the Democrats didn't
00:57:52.680 --> 00:57:54.549
applaud with this about the the story
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:56.870
with the boy with brain cancer but like
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.510
you're using this boy as a prop and it's
00:57:59.520 --> 00:58:02.190
disgusting I call that poverty porn like
00:58:02.200 --> 00:58:04.349
it's poverty porn yeah when we like or
00:58:04.359 --> 00:58:06.390
like give them the little sob story and
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.430
be like look we're doing a good job and
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:10.150
you're not it's just to distract you
00:58:10.160 --> 00:58:12.990
like I this whole like here look at this
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.670
while we're secet like not so secretly
00:58:15.680 --> 00:58:18.109
tearing away your rights like it just
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:20.309
feels like the worst magic show and I
00:58:20.319 --> 00:58:22.710
did not buy a ticket to this there will
00:58:22.720 --> 00:58:25.109
be a little disturbance I just wish
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:26.950
people could realize you can't unj jump
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:28.870
off a cliff
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:33.230
you no no reverse jumping there no um
00:58:33.240 --> 00:58:37.150
well so anyways let's get back to some
00:58:37.160 --> 00:58:40.710
Joy Thea yes trans family dinner March
00:58:40.720 --> 00:58:42.349
yes we got a bunch of things going
00:58:42.359 --> 00:58:44.109
what's going on in March um uh before
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:45.750
the transil dinner on March 13th we're
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:46.910
actually partnering with Hampton Roads
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:48.630
Pride on Pride night with the Virginia
00:58:48.640 --> 00:58:50.510
Stage Company out at the Wells theater
00:58:50.520 --> 00:58:51.670
if you are listening to this right now
00:58:51.680 --> 00:58:53.670
there is a raffle going on you can go to
00:58:53.680 --> 00:58:55.589
um well I guess Athena can we share the
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:58.230
link is is it possible go to Kayla's
00:58:58.240 --> 00:58:59.589
Coalition on our social medias where you
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:00.829
can find the link to be able to look at
00:59:00.839 --> 00:59:02.670
raffle tickets it's a sort of thing uh
00:59:02.680 --> 00:59:03.710
if you haven't followed us follow us
00:59:03.720 --> 00:59:05.630
Kayla's Coalition but basically we're
00:59:05.640 --> 00:59:06.950
giving away two tickets to people who
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.829
buy raffle tickets um we're giving away
00:59:08.839 --> 00:59:10.390
five different bundles of them and you
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.470
can come join us 7:30 p.m on March 13th
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.510
and what's the show oh I forgot the best
00:59:15.520 --> 00:59:18.309
part Little Shop of hor
00:59:18.319 --> 00:59:22.750
of me yes it's one of my favorites it's
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:24.029
going to be feed me and tell me I'm
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.349
pretty
00:59:26.359 --> 00:59:27.750
I am just so excited that we're doing
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:29.510
this and it we I I mean Hampton Road's
00:59:29.520 --> 00:59:30.829
Pride made it possible so we're going to
00:59:30.839 --> 00:59:32.270
have lots of trans family members out
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:33.870
and it's going to be a really fun night
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:35.589
um and then then later that weekend on
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.150
March 16th we have our trans family
00:59:37.160 --> 00:59:39.349
dinner for March we're doing taco night
00:59:39.359 --> 00:59:40.789
it's going to be super awesome you can
00:59:40.799 --> 00:59:42.950
sign up you can't miss it it's Taco I
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:44.589
know I know I'm going to be with my
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.670
oldest who's having their top surgery
00:59:47.680 --> 00:59:50.230
and they are so excited conations and
00:59:50.240 --> 00:59:54.670
mom has to go um because their husband
00:59:54.680 --> 00:59:56.910
is like I mean he's past Doon a tattoo
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.029
he's so sweet I L him but like he sees a
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:01.990
smidge of blood and he's like he's like
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:05.109
out so um apparently with like the top
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:07.870
surgery like they drain tubes the drain
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.510
tubes yeah um and so the only other
01:00:10.520 --> 01:00:11.789
thing was like they're not getting their
01:00:11.799 --> 01:00:13.670
nipples like they're they're just not
01:00:13.680 --> 01:00:15.430
going to get their nipples um put back
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:16.549
on because they're like I don't need
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.109
nipples it doesn't serve a purpose it's
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:19.510
just cosmetic and I don't really care
01:00:19.520 --> 01:00:21.109
I'm happy looking like a Kendall you
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:22.910
know why can save you tacos for when you
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:24.589
get back oh they might be a couple weeks
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:26.270
old yeah they'll be whole weeks old I am
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:28.150
super satam Miss and taco dinner but
01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:30.670
okay so taco dinner March 16th yes and
01:00:30.680 --> 01:00:32.230
then also the other big thing I'd like
01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:33.549
to give a shout out here is we've got
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:35.430
the trans day visibility uh kalea's
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:36.670
Coalition is working in partnership with
01:00:36.680 --> 01:00:38.190
the Life Center the thriving transmit of
01:00:38.200 --> 01:00:39.950
color all of our different wonderful
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:41.950
Partners um including the Str strc the
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:43.589
Southeastern transend Resource Center on
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:44.950
grany Street which is where it will be
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.430
hosted from 12:00 p.m. to 700 p.m. all
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:49.390
day on that Monday so come out March
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:53.309
thir uh March 31st from 12: to 12: to 7:
01:00:53.319 --> 01:00:54.710
7:00 p.m. that's what we're going to say
01:00:54.720 --> 01:00:56.270
out on grany Street we're going to have
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:57.630
all sorts of tables there's going to be
01:00:57.640 --> 01:00:59.230
all sorts of food and fun and we're
01:00:59.240 --> 01:01:00.789
going to be celebrating I think the
01:01:00.799 --> 01:01:02.230
theme this year is rest equals
01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:04.349
resistance so there'll be lots of food
01:01:04.359 --> 01:01:06.470
there'll be lots of good music and yeah
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:08.390
we'll be putting our light out so okay
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.190
man March is busy then also Selena I
01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:12.230
think you had a couple things that you
01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:13.750
were interested in talking about as well
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:15.589
we had some deadlines as well as tell
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.109
everyone about the rainbow prom again
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:18.990
okay so rainbow prom tickets went on
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.270
sale I believe they went live last week
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:25.109
um they're $30 a student and prom is on
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.990
May 2nd which is a Friday um if you are
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:29.950
going to donate any of your wonderful
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:33.870
sparkly things to the 757 creative reuse
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:35.990
center for our students that needs to be
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.270
done by mid April I want to I think we
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:39.950
picked April 15th because it's a day
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.349
that people remember tax day we're like
01:01:42.359 --> 01:01:44.230
pay the fairy god mother tax no I'm just
01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:48.670
Kidd um and uh we have uh a Homeschool
01:01:48.680 --> 01:01:50.950
Group for the LGBT kids that's like for
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.630
family to come like so everybody kind of
01:01:53.640 --> 01:01:55.269
hangs out we have lunch and we do that
01:01:55.279 --> 01:01:57.589
on Mondays at the LGBT Life Center in
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.269
Hampton and we're hoping to bring that
01:02:00.279 --> 01:02:03.230
program over to this side of the water
01:02:03.240 --> 01:02:06.269
at some point that's awesome so and then
01:02:06.279 --> 01:02:09.109
how if we have anybody that's listening
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:12.870
that has um you know they're interested
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.390
in your homeschooling group um how do
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:17.309
people reach out especially with some of
01:02:17.319 --> 01:02:19.789
the education changes I think we may be
01:02:19.799 --> 01:02:23.470
seeing um you may be seeing maybe an
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.910
uptick in some kids that need more
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.069
support so right so um there is a
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:30.230
wonderful group here it's called
01:02:30.240 --> 01:02:32.870
homeschooling in Hampton Roads and that
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.950
is run by one of the moms who runs the
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.950
lgbtq Homeschool Group and that's a
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.589
great place to start like if you want to
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:41.269
learn like what the laws are what your
01:02:41.279 --> 01:02:44.990
rights are how to comply um you know if
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:46.390
you want to figure out what curriculum
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.269
works for you or where to shop or where
01:02:48.279 --> 01:02:50.910
to find Park days or co-ops or science
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:52.750
classes or how to write a high school
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:54.789
diploma whatever you need that's where
01:02:54.799 --> 01:02:57.390
you go first amazing if however you're
01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:58.430
part of the
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.870
laqua um family and uh you just need
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:03.990
some people to hang out and be affirmed
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:05.710
and and have some fun spaces then you
01:03:05.720 --> 01:03:09.109
would look for uh Hampton Roads lgbtq
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:10.230
plus
01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:12.789
homeschoolers and um fill out the
01:03:12.799 --> 01:03:15.309
security questions on Facebook and we'll
01:03:15.319 --> 01:03:17.470
want no crazy people yeah we'll let you
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.230
in and um and then we will let you know
01:03:20.240 --> 01:03:23.190
where we meet up and when we meet up and
01:03:23.200 --> 01:03:25.109
make sure that you just don't feel so
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:26.950
alone in this world and you get to be
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:29.789
your smartly fabulous self yes I love
01:03:29.799 --> 01:03:33.829
that yeah that is all amazing stuff
01:03:33.839 --> 01:03:38.390
stuff that I am super grateful for um so
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:40.589
thankful for all the stuff we do with
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:42.910
the Kalos Coalition all of our dinners
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.470
that's that's where I got to meet yep
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:49.309
Selena um and I'm so grateful to have
01:03:49.319 --> 01:03:52.589
met Selen because I also have a little
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:56.670
liqua child yes um in home school yes
01:03:56.680 --> 01:04:00.190
and and you know she often is very
01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:04.870
isolated just at home um you know and so
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.750
her her having places like the dinners
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:11.789
and the groups to go um beginning to
01:04:11.799 --> 01:04:15.269
hear her laugh out loud you know yeah
01:04:15.279 --> 01:04:16.950
it's important yeah those are those are
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.150
all amazing things it's it's
01:04:19.160 --> 01:04:22.230
proof time and time again a few times a
01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:25.109
month especially in a time where we need
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.109
that proof Pro that no matter what
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:32.309
happens our joy trans Joy is going to
01:04:32.319 --> 01:04:36.109
defeat hate every time got it damn right
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:37.309
it's been a while since you cried on the
01:04:37.319 --> 01:04:42.950
Pod Cody I I I know I like skipped an
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:46.150
episode he
01:04:46.160 --> 01:04:49.029
L we' had a couple of new families and
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:50.789
they'll come up to me and be like okay
01:04:50.799 --> 01:04:52.789
my kid's really shy blah blah blah and
01:04:52.799 --> 01:04:55.069
their kid shows up and I'm like wait is
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:57.069
that the shy can you told me about
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.510
because they just they just they're just
01:04:59.520 --> 01:05:00.829
they know their home they know they're
01:05:00.839 --> 01:05:03.789
with their people and so we're we're
01:05:03.799 --> 01:05:05.150
we're learning how to build community
01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:07.309
when we're young and so I'm so glad that
01:05:07.319 --> 01:05:10.269
you guys found us and that your kid to
01:05:10.279 --> 01:05:13.390
be so exciting all right thank you for
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.109
joining
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.750
us this podcast is brought to you in
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