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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
Table Buzz podcast. Today we have a
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very special guest, a legendary islander. Please welcome Dave Cameron. Dave,
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how are you doing today? We're, gentleman, glad to be with you.
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Yeah, we're happy to have you. This is a huge guess for
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us. We are really happy when
we got your numbers. So we actually
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the start off the podcast. We
have some connections to you from way back
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in the day. I was actually
your caddy for the Maritimer for kids NHL
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Tournament and girl Bush one year,
and your son used to coach us.
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Actually been we are both on a
spring hockey team and Ben Cameron was our
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head coach. Okay, that's good. Bens and Ben's and Calgary. They's
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a doctor and calvery sports doctor.
Yeah, yeah, it's we we heard
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he was in the MED school.
Get to see that things worked out for
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it. He's pretty good coach,
but hopefully better doctor. Yeah, you
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must been a good caddy, because
I'm a terrible golf I had a good
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day. That's all. I was
asked. Good. Good, so we
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may as well kick off. I
mean, you played in the NHL,
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you were on the Colorado rockies whenever
they were a team back in the day.
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What was it like being an NHL
player coming from King Cora, Princea
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Island? We know what's funny because
and that was that was back in the
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early S. and now when they
tell people to play for the Colorado Rocky,
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see they call a baseball player.
So the light, the playing in
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Nash Hockey League, obviously was was
a dream of mine, you know,
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growing up. But coming up growing
up a small community, King Core,
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playing my minor hockey at of Thigrena
Croppo, the highlight for me at that
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time, where the goal for me
that time was if I could ever make
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the high school team in Kincre because
high school hockey was huge every small community,
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all small communities, morale, Surrey, Monecue all a team. So
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that was the goal of mine.
And so to play in the high school
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team was real good. And then
I was I was very fortunate in that
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I had a real good coach there
and ever steward. And then when I
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g graduated there was a for team
island junior league, then pier too,
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and I wanted to play in that
league. But through the good coaching of
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average steward, I was had a
connection then to the UPI panthers, who
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are the new coach, and Jack
Hindes and Jack and ever were close and
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and I can imitation to try it
for you. Pi had of high school.
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was very, very fortunate to make
that team because my experience of first
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year of university coming in a high
school hockey was there was games I didn't
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touch the PUCK. The team was
going one way, I was going the
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other. That's how fast it was
in that but Jack Hind seen something and
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he gave me the opportunity in that
time. You, Pi, that was
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the first time that was on a
team where I was on the ice every
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day. We practice every day and
play the weekends, and I guess you
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would I would be what you would
call a late bloomer and I really thrived
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under under Jack and we were real
competitive the university and Jack was a terrific
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coach and Jack at that time also
was a part time scout for the New
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York islanders and he just mentioned to
them that, you know, late in
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the draft, that they'll maybe they
might have some interest in taking me.
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But Jack Never told me and and
they did. I was picked, I
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think in the seventh round. Like. I think there was seven rounds of
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that time. I think cemetery each
round. And the ironic part of it
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all was that in the summer's when
I was in university, my summer jobs
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I worked there was a there was
a Canada packers plant which was a slaughter
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house where they killed the cattle and
pigs and they package the meeting. I
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was on the cleanup crew from four
to twelve and the day I was drafted
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the the make one the maintenance guys
come down and said the local radio station,
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CFC why, wants to talk to
you. Were drafted. Well,
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we were always playing prank someone another
and so I see how right, right,
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I said. So I never ever
phoned CEFC why, but they might
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get home. I think it was
on the four to twelve shift. So
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I got home about twelve thirty,
four, two one. My brother was
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waiting up and he said that I
got drafted and there probably was nobody more
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shocked than I was and he knew
that one wasn't a bad yeah, thank
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God they called home just to keep
it going after work. Yeah, RIS,
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she's gotten here with a couple of
those cars and you don't want to
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mess around with him in case,
even if you think it is because like
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but what if it actually is that? You know he can't say something that's
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like that. have got. That's
awesome. Do you have any notable teammates,
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but from your time up in the
pros? Yeah, I was when
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I first when I first went to
call a rattle, probably the two most
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high profile guys in their team was
was lanny McDonald who, landing, went
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on to win a Stanley Cup in
Calgary. I think he's one of the
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captains there and is still. I
think he heads up the hall of Fame
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Selection Committee. Landing was a hall
of fame player and another Stanley Cup winner
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that was fortunate enough to play with
was Rob Ramage and rob. Yeah,
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rock played with Toronto, won the
Standard Cup, I think, also with
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Calgary. Was a long time n
hl play and I think he was the
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first overall pick and NTIL draft.
I'm going to say one thousand nine hundred
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and eighty when I was in Colorado, somewhere seventy nine or eighty, and
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then when I was wanted down my
career with with New Jersey. The young
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players that were coming in then was
Kirk Muller, Patty her beak, John
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Mcclain, you know Joey Sarella.
All guys went on. They're pretty good,
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some cases real good in ITR careers, I'd say for sure. That's
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a lot of a lot of good
names like you and yes, so obviously
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you coach in the NHL to like. What was the change over from playing
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to coaching, like how that began? Well, you know it. That's
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a question I get a lot of
times. Is why I get into it.
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I really don't know, other than
I really love the game. But
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my first coaching experience I used to
work, like most guys have played pro
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hockey in the s and now would
have come home. There was some hockey
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schools I work at, mainly Alan
Andrews, you know Howey School, and
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that's been going forever now and there's
a terrific job and that school second and
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none but the Real, the first
real coaching job I had. So I
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come home and at that time,
in in that late s and early s,
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the big, big sport of Pi
in terms of ball was fast pitch.
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And again it was like every small
community you know had a fast pitch
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team and I grew up in King
Coor spent my summers there when I first
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started playing. So we had a
fast pitch team and and I come in
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a family off five boys and a
sistem. So we're all in the same
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team and you can imagine with all
the little guys. You imagine the attitude
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that would be on that team.
And and so nobody really will coach it.
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And so, long story short,
I ended up I ended up coaching
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as I was playing. And so
the coach, you four brothers know,
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all real football players, good athletes. was quite a challenge because we didn't
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always leave it at the field.
Yeah, and you know, so it
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was. It was good. But
that that was really my first coaching job.
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And then when I finished playing,
I come home and the Western capital's
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job was available. Trying to think
who was there ahead of me and might
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have been I don't withdrew, where
it Smith, or maybe Harrol Thompson and
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but forever. They were making a
change and I threw my hand in the
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ring and hooked up with Jimmy Clark. Jimmy Jimmy was assistant GMT in Columbus
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with Doug Mcclain. Jimmy now that
head of amateur sorry, had a pro
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scouting with the Ottawa senators and Jimmy's
a real class act and I coached in
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summerside. We hosted this a Tenniel
Cup and eighty nine and lost in the
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championship game in the thunder base.
So I kind of got the bug there
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and then I got the opportunity the
keeper going in the late S. said
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that I once I got back into
it, the bug caught me and I've
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been fortunate enough to be out of
roughly last twenty five, thirty years.
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Right on. Yeah, that was
a definitely a great call by whoever that
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is. This in GM was.
Yeah, smart, assistant, big time
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and then so, I mean you've
been able to coach a lot of great
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players since then. What was it
like with Ottawa there and they're crazy season?
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Eric Carlson was winning the Norris.
You had to crazy rookies and mark
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stone and Mike Coffin. was that
a quite a ride there that season?
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Yeah, I had been I had
been the assistant coach there and then halfway
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through the year got got promoted to
the head coach and we went on Pretty
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Substanti Runa I forget the numbers exactly, but somewhere like eighteen two and two
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or twenty two and two just that
and we had to win the last game
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of the season of Philadelphia to get
in the playoffs. But that the erotic
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part of if it is, is
that after we get in a good going,
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I could going. Both my goaltender's
got hurt, Craig Anderson, who's
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still in buffalo playing a buffalo,
robin letter, who's a Las Vegas.
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Well, Craig got hurt first.
I forget the injury. I want to
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say shoulder. And then Robin got
hurt on a on the gold cruise crash
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where a couple players slid in him
and so we ended up having to play.
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Bring up the famous Hamburgla Hey.
Yeah, and so he commit first
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as a backup because because Robin took
over number one when Andy get hurt,
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and then and he had actually playing
real well and Bingaton the American league.
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But a couple of weeks I feel
good, practice in their goalie coach with
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Wamsey, and when he gets thrown
in is just one of those rare things
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in hockey that that you know,
we caught lightning. It lightning in a
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bottle. But a big part of
that was that through the two weeks where
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he was a backup to robin letter, he said, on the ice counts
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hours and players shot the PUCK anisod. When he got a chance to come
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in, players were really excited for
him because they'd seen all the work that
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he was putting in and what a
good teammate he was and and basically realizing
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this was his opportunity to write.
And all of a sudden things that a
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clicking and we get on that role
and we get into the playoffs and yeah,
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it was. It was pretty impressive, but happened so fast and and
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every game was kind of like a
must win game that he didn't really get
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to enjoy it, even though you're
piled up two wins. But when it
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was all setting down and we get
in the playoffs, yeah, it was.
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It was quite accomplishment, big time. What was it like with like
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throwing the hamburgers on the ice and
stuff, where you guys having fun with
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the nickname too or yeah, like
the player that just they just were rallying
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around them right, and then it
just for whatever reason and things just escalated.
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Of course, everything always escalates in
a good way when you're winning big
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time, and the more you win
they become you become. He became almost
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more more of a legend and the
fans get into it. I still think
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to this day he gets free McDonald's. I don't I think that's still part
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of the thinkause. I know we
come back and played an outabout this year,
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I think as a member of the
Montreal Canadians. Yeah, and so
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they relive that and and I still
think to this day he gets he could
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free hamburgers in Ottawa, so alleged, rightfully. So, yeah, the
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legs come on. That's amazing.
Dropped in Doug Mcclain's name there. Yeah,
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there's quite a hot bed in Kincoras. There's something in the water there.
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Or what's with all this talent coming
out of such a a small town,
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even on a small island? And
Pi? Well, yeah, you
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know, it's our generation. Our
generation, we didn't have a lot of
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choice, I can terms of organized
sport, and pretty well was hockey or
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but that was that was it,
you know, in terms. But you
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know, it's funny how sometimes things
things line up and you look at if
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you take the history of the Western
capitals and you look at the guys that
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coached there. You know, you
dug Mcclain, I think, was the
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first coach him and him and Jimmy
Clark both went on Nhl Careers Forbes Kennedy,
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you know, who played when it
was only six teams in the National
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Hockey League, which is, you
know, just blows your mind at the
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how good he was there. And
then you had grant Sonya, he wanted
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a cup as a scared with the
Tampa Bay lightning. You and Harrol Thompson,
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you know, as a big part
of that landing McDonald, Darryl settler
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line in Toronto. Of course,
J where galant, you know, who
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just coached tears of coaching with the
New York Rangers and just has a real
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stellar career as a player and now
certainly as a coach. And so you
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look at I don't think I'm missing
anybody in that group, but you just
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look at just it's mind bogging.
A small town like Sumrsi could have that
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many guys that went in there went
on and did quite well the National Hockey
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League and that I'm not sure the
reason why, but like a bottle that
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I'd be a rich guy big time. Yeah, no doubt. Yes,
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Summerside, the capitals have a very
rich history of a lot of really knowing
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people that, yeah, down to
do very successful things. So it's got
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a layer for I'll go ahead,
sir. Yeah, I'm decided to mean
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interrupted. But when the latest guy
is probably a guy that slid under the
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radar a little bit as that.
But there's a guy play with the caps
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and it was before my times able
to played early s from Newfoundland, Derek
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clancy, and Derek went on played
k these coosely, that think coach there,
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but he and it was in the
Pittsburgh Penguins Organization. I think first
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is a scout whatever, but Jim
Rutherford, who was the GM at Pittsburgh,
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is now the GM in Vancouver and
I think Barry clancy's now the assistant
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GM and Vancouver. There's another guy
that was connected with that team that kind
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of kind of went on to the
National Hockey League to so yeah, it's
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pretty impressive. The caps do do
have quite a quite a history and obviously
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this year, you know, going
on to their BC Cup and so another
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real strong team out of their yeah, no, no doubt they're quite a
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franchise. Happy to play for him. Yeah, we're going to step away
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from the pod just for a quick
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pot. What was it like taking your
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coaching over to Europe? Did you
find that that was a challenge, or
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was it a different style that you
had to take with both the players and
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the game? You know, it's
going to Europe, you know, with
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something that I'd always kind of thought
maybe I would do, you know,
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as my career was winding down,
but unfortunately hockey coaching it ever know when
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it's winding down. But when it
didn't, when it didn't work out in
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Calgary, the hockey world small.
So I had an opportunity at that time
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to go to the Western Hockey League
and be the coach in the GM of
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the Vancouver giants and at the same
time, through my connections with Hockey Canada,
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I had a chance to go to
Vienna, Austria, and and to
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work over there. And Heaven moved. Heaven moved from Ottawa to Calgary and
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then under move again. Kelly Knight
thought the time was right. You know,
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let's let's try, let's try this
European thing, and so I was
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there for three years. Vienna's always
voted one of the top two or three
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places to live in the world.
It's a city of just under two million
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but is beautiful and now we really, really enjoyed it. They're really probably
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was looking to end my career.
Why? My career down there? But
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ut of the blue my good friend
I who I work with when I was
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a coaching GM mississaga and the Tara
acky league. My right hand man was
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James Boyd. James is now the
GM of the Ottawa sixty seven's and the
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head coach was a guy by the
name of Andrey turn they, who is
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now the head coach on the Arizona
and the NHL. And so Andre and
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I had worked together out awe and
we had done some world juniors together.
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So we were good friends and I
was good friends with James. And then
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when Andrea moved on, James and
I talking and that, you know,
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discuss the possibility me coming back and
coaching junior and I've always enjoyed junior but
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I wasn't really sure I wanted to
leave Europe. And then now James is
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also one of the assistants GM's,
I'm not sure as official tie with their
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world junior team. And so that
that option became available if I took the
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Ottawa job, and that kind of
was icing on the cake. And I
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come back and very, very good
organization. It's run like an NHL team.
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Of course, knowing James made a
lot easier and the world junior is
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good. So and I really enjoyed
at a young team this year. We
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had a pretty good year so soon
you no regrets and coming back awesome.
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Happy to hear that. Yeah.
So, yeah, sounds like the sixty
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sevens will big year, up for
a big year next year. Then a
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young team. And Yeah, we
we finish seventh this year. We cut
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the number two. Yeah, we
cut the number two team, North Bay.
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It was kind of a different year
terms of you only played within your
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conference, and so the ohls hundred
and ten team conference that we played in
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the row and we played we played
a divisional teams more so too, the
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teams that we played the most.
We're Kingston, who have Shane right on
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them, and Hamilton, who's going
to game seven now the Rhl finals.
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So we two the best teams that
we had to play a lot of our
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games against them, although we took
our lumps through the year with them.
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And sometimes a long term is the
best thing because you get better by playing
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better teams. And so my young
guys a little bit of baptism by fire,
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but I thought they really developed in
a thing I really liked about them
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was out they were really, really
competitive, and that's that's your cornerstone when
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you're building your franchise. Everybody wants
talent. I was in you needed but
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you have to have that competitive nature
if you're going to be the best and
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that my guys responded to that and
that we're excited. But have that dreaded
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word potential. Ye, hanging always
for next year, but as a coach
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I don't mind them right now.
Yeah, it seems like you're in a
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pretty good spot. They're. Yeah, hopefully they are. Lay out the
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blueprint for how to be, you
know, one of those top teams in
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the League. You get a front
row seat to it all year and then
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next year he can take up where
they left off. Yeah, that's like
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I said, that's that's how you
get better. As when is when you
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play the best step, because when
you're if your team's mediocre and and you're
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only play other teams that are mediocre, then your players are always compared themselves
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to mediocrity. Yeah, so when
you go ahead the head with the best
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team, so, for example,
kings in the chain right is going to
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be the first overall pickers, certainly
one of the top three. And then
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and then Hamilton traded for and a
guy by name a mason mccavish, who
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the only reason it wasn't in the
NHL this year just had to do with
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with contracts and the salary cap.
And they have this other big Defenseman to
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prospect of Montreal Jack Guy, who's
going to be certainly American hockey league.
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So they would told all with those
guys. I think we played played Hamilton,
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I think ten times, in Kingston
twelve, and so yeah, and
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so it was no when when we
got a little bit maybe Cocky, just
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remind them that if you want to
really see it, afraid you're going to
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go compare yourself to those two guys, at those three guys, and it
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was great. My kids took to
challenge and they did really well. That's
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free. You mentioned there the name
from Ryl Juniors, Mason mctavish. Obviously
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he's dominant. He had a really
good tournament there. The start of the
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term was yeah, I I got
to canceled, but is there any name
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in that world junior team that kind
of remind you of players you've coached before?
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Yeah, you know you anytime you
have, any time you're coaching,
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regard as your love, all the
time you're coaching the best players in the
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country, then certainly your team has
high end guys, but it also has
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has character guys, guys that you
know are real hard to play against,
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guys that don't necessarily bring yet you
see, with flash and DASH, but
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contribute to the team because they're real, the real poise and the real,
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real competitive. And you know we
are goaltender, goaltender concept. Just Emmonton
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just won the western hockey to.
He's a first round pick of Detroit.
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Our other guy, go on,
I forget who he's. Who He's what
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is in jail? Team is?
But he was a he was probably the
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best goal in the Western league and
campbells last year and they, I think
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Amonton, knocked them off, or
Snow Seattle he knocked them off and in
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the semi finals. So Real,
real, real good goaltending. And and
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then on the D side of it, you know we have real good death.
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We had a kid. I'll God, I'm having a brain granpared play
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for the Highan News this year.
Yeah, Lookaus core me. So so
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real. You know, real high
end guy they're Google is the first round
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pick the Montreal Canadiens. That I
think was in Prince Alberge now and that
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Edmonton team. So you know,
high end guys there and up. And
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then, of course we had all
old power, the first overall pick of
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the buffalo sabers and and you know, he's played already in the world championship.
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He won the world championship last year, the win the gold medal.
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He was with us. He was
in the world championship a game this year.
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He an he played in the Olympics. You know as as mccaby's.
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Didn't I was shooting an article of
the caves and I think since if you
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go back a year, so sold
the year before last he started in Anaheim.
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He played his nine games. So
I think from that point on he's
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played in like seven or eight different
teams. So he played in Anaheim,
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he played in the American Hockey League
team in San Diego. We played in
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Peterborough. He's in Hamilton. He
played on the end of Twenty team playing
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the world championship team. He played
on the Olympic team. He played on
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the end of eighteen team to win
the gold medal and Dallas and that's like
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say, yeah, that's all within
like a two year we're not only plays,
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one of the best players, and
so we really like your team.
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We think, we think that were
real, real strong and excited that we're
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getting just ifin hisses tournament in August. That's awesome. I mean it's like
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all eyes are on the world juniors
every year that it comes around, especially
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as team Canada, like I can't
imagine in the pressure gets any higher than
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that. How is as a coach, do you handle that and how do
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you, you know, help your
players deal with the pressure and the expectations?
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Well, you know, it's funny
because this this will be this will
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be my fourth world junior and a
very fortunate my first one in in in
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I to want to work with Pack
Quinn and we're able to win a gold
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mill there, and so at that
time, you know your you're probably just
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like the first year players. You
know you're caught up on all the hype
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and and all the pressure off it
and and you work your way through.
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But this being my fourth that I
feel quite comfortable, you know, with
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the pressure that goes with it.
I think that's one of the big advantages.
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Obviously experience hasn't in going through it. And and today's players are there
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because hockey candas such a great job
with the under seventeens, the under eight
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teens. These guys are high end
junior so they played in championships. They're
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actually pretty good handling the pressure and, although it's rapped up another noteds because
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it's the world juniors, most of
them, most of them are, you
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know, have that layers skin where
they've been exposed to pressure games before and
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that helps them and and stay as
coaches. Experience and things like that helps
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them because that, at the end
of the day, once the buckets dropped,
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the shifted too in most of them
settling pretty good right on, I
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suppose. I mean if they're all
trying to be or are already professionals,
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than they've been exposed to a little
bit of that already. Yeah, these
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kids today, it explore you.
They've had hockey like, you know,
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like with the the starts, I
think on one thus fourteen, hundred and
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fifty, and these guys are on
that program pretty well all the way up.
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So, yeah, they're always used
to first of all having to make
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the team and then of course going
against good international competition after that. So
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what's it like? You know,
we've seen these young kids of the World
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Juniors, like trevor's egris and Connor
but ARD. They're not playing the way
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that people have always been playing hockey. Like do you ever just shake your
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head at like what you're watching and
like why is this kid ripping from the
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bottom of the circle at the boards? But then you watch it go short
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side and you're like okay, I
guess keep doing it. Then yeah,
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it's it's one of the one of
the things about being experienced and and,
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like I said, it's been it's
been twenty I think. I think I've
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been at at this from terms of
making my living at it since ninety five.
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So so we're looking at roughly twenty
seven years up it. And so
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one of the I think one of
my strengths, and that twenty seven years,
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is obviously you have to adapt,
know you you you have to change.
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And coming up in the S and
s probably the best term to describe
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that are was old school. You
know, there was it was brawls,
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it was running Goldie's, there was
violence in the game. But the game
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has changed now. You know,
fightings almost extinct. You know, the
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real physicality now isn't so much running
the guy through the end of the wall
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as it is, you know,
cutting his hands off, stripping on the
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Puck, you know, being above
for those for those bumps in the neutral
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zone, bumps off faceoff. That's
more the physicality now in the seat of
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skill level of these these players as
they developed, it's it's astonishing what they
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can do and for me to get
my eyes I mean I very fortunate over
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the years of my connections with hockey
can and doing the under eighteen in the
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world juniors. You know, I
the eighteen one year I had had sidney
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crosby and at the world championships I
econo mcgave it and now I got connorverdart
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at the World Juniors and and his
potential. Now somebody put it out lat
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at the world junior camp in December
and our team is that really had the
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potential, and that team is they
have three consecutive number one and NHL number
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one overall in Nhil picks wall power
already is there's talk to chain rights going
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to be this year and then conniverarity
is the guy that's that's you know,
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it projected in a let slot next
year. So that just gives you an
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idea of the talent. Stuff like
that. But it's like it's like I
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tell them, as like I told
Connor, but there, when I had
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them at Christmas time, I said
listen, Connor, I said that when
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you have the puck on your stick, you don't need me. You got
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that part of it. Master,
I said, but where I could help
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you a little bit, as when
you don't have the puck on your stick
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and how our teams going to play
to get it back. And he was
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very stepped up to that and as
good as you know he's, he gets
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all his accolades and that as being
an offensive jugger out what he certainly is.
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But everybody has to be able to
play some degree of defense to get
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the ice time that they're happy with
in the big games. And you know,
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you just look at, we use
Tampa Bay as an example, guys
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like stamp coast, Chakirov, Couchuref
you know that they figured that ever.
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So they play at all situations,
they play when the Games on the line,
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so that they figured that out and
they want that and they're competitive enough
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that they will figure it out.
It on and it's good to see that
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see the offensively gifted players aren't just
trying to, you know, take up
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the next role as of Etchkin and
just sit on the power play and shoot
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pucks all day, of guys like
Matthews who are coming back on the defensive
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side of the park and trying to
and mcdavid, even in the playoffs,
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taking his game up a notch,
which we didn't know as possible. But
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yeah, you know, it's a
rounic because when you all those names you
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mentioned are great examples, but it's
some guys which really amazing. But those
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guys is is that when they figure
it out, like some some guys get
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a pretty quick like crosby. Yeah, it's right. Then other guys,
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other guys played for years, like
Oh Vetchka, but until until they figure
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it out, very rarely do they
win the Stanley Cup. And a lot
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of times it's it's it's later in
their careers when they realize that Stanley Cup
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window maybe shutting and and for whatever
reason, salary cap or age, whatever
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their team is, it's windows closing. But you know, you look at
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you look at I think Austin Matthews
is a good example. You look at
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him. You know, I think. I don't think he was first in
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the league this year or by no, he was topping in terms of all
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we called takeaways. Well, takeaways
basically back checking. That's just and in
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the S and seventy and I play
with called back check it. Now it's
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called takeaway. So the terminology change
but results the same. And so and
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he's relatively a young guy. So
that that that boads well soon in from
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Toronto, Maple leafs and and there's
no guarantees, but certainly your odds are
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winning go up when your best players
are doing that. We're cutting close on
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time here. I'll hit you with
one more question and have like five minutes
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left and assume we did. Just
don't want to even cut out on us
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without saying are you on the your
are you coaching in Halifax and Mountain?
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That's no, for you're not.
No, no, that would know.
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Yeah, will be crazy, I'd
imagine. Yeah, facts. I actually
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have one more question to here.
Sure, yeah, I think there's a
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nickname the Moose. Yeah, correct. Can we just hear where that may
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have come from, if it's,
you know, appropriate or all? Oh,
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yeah, it's. I it's ironic
because because I had I got that
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name like really I I see,
really young, I would say six or
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seven years old, to the point
where if you if you when I was
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in high school to university, if
you called me David, I probably wouldn't
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answer you. Yeah, I did
it that I was known, as a
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matter of fact. As a matter
of fact, when I when I first
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went played in the National Hockey League
and one of my first Games in Calgary
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I was playing skating around a warm
up and stuff like that, and a
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guy play high school hockey with was
there. Name he him and I met
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afterwards. Believe it. He said
I was yelling at you, David,
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David, and you never looked at
me. What's he held? Moves,
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he said, I I found them, which is true. I mean that
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was just wait, but I got
the name from my uncle and I don't
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know if you guys would remember,
but back everybody used to have a screen
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door. Yeah, and you know
that was just kind of wooden door and
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you know, and like the real
nice now, if you see a screen
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door now it's it's real fancy and
really expensive, but back in those days,
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basically favorite screen door was a wooden
frame with hinges on it and just
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a big piece of screen to keep
the flies him. So I don't know
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what was going on, but somebody
was chasing me and instead of going open
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and it or going through what,
I went through the screen and my uncle
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just said that, look at the
Big Moose. And that's that's how that
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name, that's how I got that
name, of that name stuck. Yeah,
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wow, good nickname. Yeah,
I've run through a couple of screen
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nuys in my day, for sure. That's awesome. Yeah, crazy how
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they stick like that. I mean
even Turk, I think he got his
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whenever he was a real young kid
to like chasing Turkeys or something. I
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can't remember. Yeah, but I'm
not sure the story. Be have a
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yeah, but they step PIPI PIYS
PRETTY I won't say famous, but there's
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a lot of people Pi with a
nickname like yeah, probably probably one of
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the one of the cruelest nicknames.
So brother Ricky, so we we call
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him Sammy. So, okay,
how he got that nickname? So his
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summer job, he used to work
at Atl there is summer side, and
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it just shows you. Now Five, five brothers growing up. How how
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we took we took no prisoners,
we just said. But anyway, he
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and he ended up getting sick with
Salmonella, which is sold. So he
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was sick and heat, but he
got the long turn. He was sick
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for a while. A lot of
people got it, kind of maybe like
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the flu are over. He was
sick for a while. So I'm not
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sure which one of his with someone. They come up with the nickname Sammy.
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That stuck with him. So did
you still calm Sammy now? No,
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comb say. Yeah, Oh yeah, so nicknames, nicknames have a
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history. Yeah, all right,
no rocky egg yolk milkshakes for that guy.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's
hilarious. Well, I mean,
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it's been awesome having you on.
We appreciate you taking your time here past
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to luck in August with the World
Juniors, I mean us, along with
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the whole country, will be cheering
pretty hard for you. Is Well,
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thanks, guys. That appreciate it
anytime and, like I say, you
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can always use luck, so I
appreciate that. Ye will be sending it
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your way. Okay, thanks,
gentlemen. Thank you, Joe. Okay,
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by see you, but
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
Table Buzz podcast. Today we have a
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very special guest, a legendary islander. Please welcome Dave Cameron. Dave,
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how are you doing today? We're, gentleman, glad to be with you.
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Yeah, we're happy to have you. This is a huge guess for
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us. We are really happy when
we got your numbers. So we actually
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the start off the podcast. We
have some connections to you from way back
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in the day. I was actually
your caddy for the Maritimer for kids NHL
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Tournament and girl Bush one year,
and your son used to coach us.
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Actually been we are both on a
spring hockey team and Ben Cameron was our
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head coach. Okay, that's good. Bens and Ben's and Calgary. They's
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a doctor and calvery sports doctor.
Yeah, yeah, it's we we heard
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he was in the MED school.
Get to see that things worked out for
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it. He's pretty good coach,
but hopefully better doctor. Yeah, you
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must been a good caddy, because
I'm a terrible golf I had a good
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day. That's all. I was
asked. Good. Good, so we
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may as well kick off. I
mean, you played in the NHL,
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you were on the Colorado rockies whenever
they were a team back in the day.
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What was it like being an NHL
player coming from King Cora, Princea
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Island? We know what's funny because
and that was that was back in the
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early S. and now when they
tell people to play for the Colorado Rocky,
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see they call a baseball player.
So the light, the playing in
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Nash Hockey League, obviously was was
a dream of mine, you know,
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growing up. But coming up growing
up a small community, King Core,
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playing my minor hockey at of Thigrena
Croppo, the highlight for me at that
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time, where the goal for me
that time was if I could ever make
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the high school team in Kincre because
high school hockey was huge every small community,
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all small communities, morale, Surrey, Monecue all a team. So
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that was the goal of mine.
And so to play in the high school
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team was real good. And then
I was I was very fortunate in that
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I had a real good coach there
and ever steward. And then when I
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g graduated there was a for team
island junior league, then pier too,
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and I wanted to play in that
league. But through the good coaching of
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average steward, I was had a
connection then to the UPI panthers, who
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are the new coach, and Jack
Hindes and Jack and ever were close and
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and I can imitation to try it
for you. Pi had of high school.
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was very, very fortunate to make
that team because my experience of first
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year of university coming in a high
school hockey was there was games I didn't
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touch the PUCK. The team was
going one way, I was going the
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other. That's how fast it was
in that but Jack Hind seen something and
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he gave me the opportunity in that
time. You, Pi, that was
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the first time that was on a
team where I was on the ice every
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day. We practice every day and
play the weekends, and I guess you
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would I would be what you would
call a late bloomer and I really thrived
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under under Jack and we were real
competitive the university and Jack was a terrific
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coach and Jack at that time also
was a part time scout for the New
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York islanders and he just mentioned to
them that, you know, late in
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the draft, that they'll maybe they
might have some interest in taking me.
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But Jack Never told me and and
they did. I was picked, I
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think in the seventh round. Like. I think there was seven rounds of
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that time. I think cemetery each
round. And the ironic part of it
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all was that in the summer's when
I was in university, my summer jobs
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I worked there was a there was
a Canada packers plant which was a slaughter
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house where they killed the cattle and
pigs and they package the meeting. I
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was on the cleanup crew from four
to twelve and the day I was drafted
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the the make one the maintenance guys
come down and said the local radio station,
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CFC why, wants to talk to
you. Were drafted. Well,
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we were always playing prank someone another
and so I see how right, right,
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I said. So I never ever
phoned CEFC why, but they might
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get home. I think it was
on the four to twelve shift. So
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I got home about twelve thirty,
four, two one. My brother was
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waiting up and he said that I
got drafted and there probably was nobody more
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shocked than I was and he knew
that one wasn't a bad yeah, thank
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God they called home just to keep
it going after work. Yeah, RIS,
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she's gotten here with a couple of
those cars and you don't want to
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mess around with him in case,
even if you think it is because like
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but what if it actually is that? You know he can't say something that's
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like that. have got. That's
awesome. Do you have any notable teammates,
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but from your time up in the
pros? Yeah, I was when
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I first when I first went to
call a rattle, probably the two most
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high profile guys in their team was
was lanny McDonald who, landing, went
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on to win a Stanley Cup in
Calgary. I think he's one of the
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captains there and is still. I
think he heads up the hall of Fame
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Selection Committee. Landing was a hall
of fame player and another Stanley Cup winner
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that was fortunate enough to play with
was Rob Ramage and rob. Yeah,
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rock played with Toronto, won the
Standard Cup, I think, also with
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Calgary. Was a long time n
hl play and I think he was the
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first overall pick and NTIL draft.
I'm going to say one thousand nine hundred
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and eighty when I was in Colorado, somewhere seventy nine or eighty, and
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then when I was wanted down my
career with with New Jersey. The young
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players that were coming in then was
Kirk Muller, Patty her beak, John
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Mcclain, you know Joey Sarella.
All guys went on. They're pretty good,
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some cases real good in ITR careers, I'd say for sure. That's
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a lot of a lot of good
names like you and yes, so obviously
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you coach in the NHL to like. What was the change over from playing
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to coaching, like how that began? Well, you know it. That's
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a question I get a lot of
times. Is why I get into it.
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I really don't know, other than
I really love the game. But
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my first coaching experience I used to
work, like most guys have played pro
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hockey in the s and now would
have come home. There was some hockey
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schools I work at, mainly Alan
Andrews, you know Howey School, and
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that's been going forever now and there's
a terrific job and that school second and
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none but the Real, the first
real coaching job I had. So I
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come home and at that time,
in in that late s and early s,
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the big, big sport of Pi
in terms of ball was fast pitch.
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And again it was like every small
community you know had a fast pitch
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team and I grew up in King
Coor spent my summers there when I first
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started playing. So we had a
fast pitch team and and I come in
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a family off five boys and a
sistem. So we're all in the same
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team and you can imagine with all
the little guys. You imagine the attitude
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that would be on that team.
And and so nobody really will coach it.
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And so, long story short,
I ended up I ended up coaching
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as I was playing. And so
the coach, you four brothers know,
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all real football players, good athletes. was quite a challenge because we didn't
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always leave it at the field.
Yeah, and you know, so it
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was. It was good. But
that that was really my first coaching job.
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And then when I finished playing,
I come home and the Western capital's
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job was available. Trying to think
who was there ahead of me and might
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have been I don't withdrew, where
it Smith, or maybe Harrol Thompson and
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but forever. They were making a
change and I threw my hand in the
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ring and hooked up with Jimmy Clark. Jimmy Jimmy was assistant GMT in Columbus
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with Doug Mcclain. Jimmy now that
head of amateur sorry, had a pro
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scouting with the Ottawa senators and Jimmy's
a real class act and I coached in
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summerside. We hosted this a Tenniel
Cup and eighty nine and lost in the
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championship game in the thunder base.
So I kind of got the bug there
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and then I got the opportunity the
keeper going in the late S. said
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that I once I got back into
it, the bug caught me and I've
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been fortunate enough to be out of
roughly last twenty five, thirty years.
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Right on. Yeah, that was
a definitely a great call by whoever that
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is. This in GM was.
Yeah, smart, assistant, big time
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and then so, I mean you've
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players since then. What was it
like with Ottawa there and they're crazy season?
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Eric Carlson was winning the Norris.
You had to crazy rookies and mark
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stone and Mike Coffin. was that
a quite a ride there that season?
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Yeah, I had been I had
been the assistant coach there and then halfway
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through the year got got promoted to
the head coach and we went on Pretty
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or twenty two and two just that
and we had to win the last game
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of the season of Philadelphia to get
in the playoffs. But that the erotic
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part of if it is, is
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I could going. Both my goaltender's
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still in buffalo playing a buffalo,
robin letter, who's a Las Vegas.
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Well, Craig got hurt first.
I forget the injury. I want to
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say shoulder. And then Robin got
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where a couple players slid in him
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Bring up the famous Hamburgla Hey.
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as a backup because because Robin took
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and then and he had actually playing
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Wamsey, and when he gets thrown
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in hockey that that you know,
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bottle. But a big part of
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he was a backup to robin letter, he said, on the ice counts
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hours and players shot the PUCK anisod. When he got a chance to come
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in, players were really excited for
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he was putting in and what a
good teammate he was and and basically realizing
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this was his opportunity to write.
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clicking and we get on that role
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it was. It was pretty impressive, but happened so fast and and
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every game was kind of like a
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to enjoy it, even though you're
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was all setting down and we get
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It was quite accomplishment, big time. What was it like with like
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throwing the hamburgers on the ice and
stuff, where you guys having fun with
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the nickname too or yeah, like
the player that just they just were rallying
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around them right, and then it
just for whatever reason and things just escalated.
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Of course, everything always escalates in
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time, and the more you win
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more more of a legend and the
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to this day he gets free McDonald's. I don't I think that's still part
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of the thinkause. I know we
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I think as a member of the
Montreal Canadians. Yeah, and so
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they relive that and and I still
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free hamburgers in Ottawa, so alleged, rightfully. So, yeah, the
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legs come on. That's amazing.
Dropped in Doug Mcclain's name there. Yeah,
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there's quite a hot bed in Kincoras. There's something in the water there.
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Or what's with all this talent coming
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even on a small island? And
Pi? Well, yeah, you
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know, it's our generation. Our
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choice, I can terms of organized
sport, and pretty well was hockey or
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but that was that was it,
you know, in terms. But you
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know, it's funny how sometimes things
things line up and you look at if
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you take the history of the Western
capitals and you look at the guys that
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coached there. You know, you
dug Mcclain, I think, was the
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first coach him and him and Jimmy
Clark both went on Nhl Careers Forbes Kennedy,
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you know, who played when it
was only six teams in the National
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Hockey League, which is, you
know, just blows your mind at the
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how good he was there. And
then you had grant Sonya, he wanted
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a cup as a scared with the
Tampa Bay lightning. You and Harrol Thompson,
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you know, as a big part
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line in Toronto. Of course,
J where galant, you know, who
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just coached tears of coaching with the
New York Rangers and just has a real
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stellar career as a player and now
certainly as a coach. And so you
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look at I don't think I'm missing
anybody in that group, but you just
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look at just it's mind bogging.
A small town like Sumrsi could have that
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many guys that went in there went
on and did quite well the National Hockey
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League and that I'm not sure the
reason why, but like a bottle that
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I'd be a rich guy big time. Yeah, no doubt. Yes,
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Summerside, the capitals have a very
rich history of a lot of really knowing
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people that, yeah, down to
do very successful things. So it's got
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a layer for I'll go ahead,
sir. Yeah, I'm decided to mean
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interrupted. But when the latest guy
is probably a guy that slid under the
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radar a little bit as that.
But there's a guy play with the caps
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and it was before my times able
to played early s from Newfoundland, Derek
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clancy, and Derek went on played
k these coosely, that think coach there,
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but he and it was in the
Pittsburgh Penguins Organization. I think first
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is a scout whatever, but Jim
Rutherford, who was the GM at Pittsburgh,
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is now the GM in Vancouver and
I think Barry clancy's now the assistant
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GM and Vancouver. There's another guy
that was connected with that team that kind
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of kind of went on to the
National Hockey League to so yeah, it's
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pretty impressive. The caps do do
have quite a quite a history and obviously
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this year, you know, going
on to their BC Cup and so another
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real strong team out of their yeah, no, no doubt they're quite a
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franchise. Happy to play for him. Yeah, we're going to step away
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pot. What was it like taking your
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coaching over to Europe? Did you
find that that was a challenge, or
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was it a different style that you
had to take with both the players and
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the game? You know, it's
going to Europe, you know, with
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something that I'd always kind of thought
maybe I would do, you know,
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as my career was winding down,
but unfortunately hockey coaching it ever know when
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it's winding down. But when it
didn't, when it didn't work out in
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Calgary, the hockey world small.
So I had an opportunity at that time
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to go to the Western Hockey League
and be the coach in the GM of
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the Vancouver giants and at the same
time, through my connections with Hockey Canada,
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I had a chance to go to
Vienna, Austria, and and to
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work over there. And Heaven moved. Heaven moved from Ottawa to Calgary and
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then under move again. Kelly Knight
thought the time was right. You know,
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let's let's try, let's try this
European thing, and so I was
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there for three years. Vienna's always
voted one of the top two or three
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places to live in the world.
It's a city of just under two million
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but is beautiful and now we really, really enjoyed it. They're really probably
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was looking to end my career.
Why? My career down there? But
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ut of the blue my good friend
I who I work with when I was
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a coaching GM mississaga and the Tara
acky league. My right hand man was
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James Boyd. James is now the
GM of the Ottawa sixty seven's and the
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head coach was a guy by the
name of Andrey turn they, who is
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now the head coach on the Arizona
and the NHL. And so Andre and
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I had worked together out awe and
we had done some world juniors together.
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So we were good friends and I
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when Andrea moved on, James and
I talking and that, you know,
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discuss the possibility me coming back and
coaching junior and I've always enjoyed junior but
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I wasn't really sure I wanted to
leave Europe. And then now James is
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also one of the assistants GM's,
I'm not sure as official tie with their
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world junior team. And so that
that option became available if I took the
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Ottawa job, and that kind of
was icing on the cake. And I
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come back and very, very good
organization. It's run like an NHL team.
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Of course, knowing James made a
lot easier and the world junior is
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good. So and I really enjoyed
at a young team this year. We
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had a pretty good year so soon
you no regrets and coming back awesome.
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Happy to hear that. Yeah.
So, yeah, sounds like the sixty
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sevens will big year, up for
a big year next year. Then a
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young team. And Yeah, we
we finish seventh this year. We cut
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the number two. Yeah, we
cut the number two team, North Bay.
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It was kind of a different year
terms of you only played within your
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conference, and so the ohls hundred
and ten team conference that we played in
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the row and we played we played
a divisional teams more so too, the
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teams that we played the most.
We're Kingston, who have Shane right on
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them, and Hamilton, who's going
to game seven now the Rhl finals.
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So we two the best teams that
we had to play a lot of our
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games against them, although we took
our lumps through the year with them.
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And sometimes a long term is the
best thing because you get better by playing
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better teams. And so my young
guys a little bit of baptism by fire,
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but I thought they really developed in
a thing I really liked about them
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was out they were really, really
competitive, and that's that's your cornerstone when
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you're building your franchise. Everybody wants
talent. I was in you needed but
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you have to have that competitive nature
if you're going to be the best and
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that my guys responded to that and
that we're excited. But have that dreaded
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word potential. Ye, hanging always
for next year, but as a coach
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I don't mind them right now.
Yeah, it seems like you're in a
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pretty good spot. They're. Yeah, hopefully they are. Lay out the
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blueprint for how to be, you
know, one of those top teams in
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the League. You get a front
row seat to it all year and then
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next year he can take up where
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I said, that's that's how you
get better. As when is when you
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play the best step, because when
you're if your team's mediocre and and you're
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only play other teams that are mediocre, then your players are always compared themselves
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to mediocrity. Yeah, so when
you go ahead the head with the best
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team, so, for example,
kings in the chain right is going to
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be the first overall pickers, certainly
one of the top three. And then
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and then Hamilton traded for and a
guy by name a mason mccavish, who
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the only reason it wasn't in the
NHL this year just had to do with
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with contracts and the salary cap.
And they have this other big Defenseman to
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prospect of Montreal Jack Guy, who's
going to be certainly American hockey league.
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So they would told all with those
guys. I think we played played Hamilton,
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I think ten times, in Kingston
twelve, and so yeah, and
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so it was no when when we
got a little bit maybe Cocky, just
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remind them that if you want to
really see it, afraid you're going to
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go compare yourself to those two guys, at those three guys, and it
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was great. My kids took to
challenge and they did really well. That's
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free. You mentioned there the name
from Ryl Juniors, Mason mctavish. Obviously
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he's dominant. He had a really
good tournament there. The start of the
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term was yeah, I I got
to canceled, but is there any name
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in that world junior team that kind
of remind you of players you've coached before?
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have, any time you're coaching,
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regard as your love, all the
time you're coaching the best players in the
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country, then certainly your team has
high end guys, but it also has
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has character guys, guys that you
know are real hard to play against,
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guys that don't necessarily bring yet you
see, with flash and DASH, but
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contribute to the team because they're real, the real poise and the real,
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real competitive. And you know we
are goaltender, goaltender concept. Just Emmonton
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just won the western hockey to.
He's a first round pick of Detroit.
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Our other guy, go on,
I forget who he's. Who He's what
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is in jail? Team is?
But he was a he was probably the
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best goal in the Western league and
campbells last year and they, I think
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Amonton, knocked them off, or
Snow Seattle he knocked them off and in
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the semi finals. So Real,
real, real good goaltending. And and
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then on the D side of it, you know we have real good death.
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We had a kid. I'll God, I'm having a brain granpared play
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for the Highan News this year.
Yeah, Lookaus core me. So so
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real. You know, real high
end guy they're Google is the first round
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pick the Montreal Canadiens. That I
think was in Prince Alberge now and that
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Edmonton team. So you know,
high end guys there and up. And
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then, of course we had all
old power, the first overall pick of
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the buffalo sabers and and you know, he's played already in the world championship.
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He won the world championship last year, the win the gold medal.
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He was with us. He was
in the world championship a game this year.
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He an he played in the Olympics. You know as as mccaby's.
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Didn't I was shooting an article of
the caves and I think since if you
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go back a year, so sold
the year before last he started in Anaheim.
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He played his nine games. So
I think from that point on he's
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played in like seven or eight different
teams. So he played in Anaheim,
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he played in the American Hockey League
team in San Diego. We played in
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Peterborough. He's in Hamilton. He
played on the end of Twenty team playing
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the world championship team. He played
on the Olympic team. He played on
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the end of eighteen team to win
the gold medal and Dallas and that's like
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say, yeah, that's all within
like a two year we're not only plays,
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one of the best players, and
so we really like your team.
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We think, we think that were
real, real strong and excited that we're
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getting just ifin hisses tournament in August. That's awesome. I mean it's like
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all eyes are on the world juniors
every year that it comes around, especially
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as team Canada, like I can't
imagine in the pressure gets any higher than
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that. How is as a coach, do you handle that and how do
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you, you know, help your
players deal with the pressure and the expectations?
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Well, you know, it's funny
because this this will be this will
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be my fourth world junior and a
very fortunate my first one in in in
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I to want to work with Pack
Quinn and we're able to win a gold
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mill there, and so at that
time, you know your you're probably just
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like the first year players. You
know you're caught up on all the hype
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and and all the pressure off it
and and you work your way through.
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But this being my fourth that I
feel quite comfortable, you know, with
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the pressure that goes with it.
I think that's one of the big advantages.
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Obviously experience hasn't in going through it. And and today's players are there
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because hockey candas such a great job
with the under seventeens, the under eight
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teens. These guys are high end
junior so they played in championships. They're
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actually pretty good handling the pressure and, although it's rapped up another noteds because
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it's the world juniors, most of
them, most of them are, you
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know, have that layers skin where
they've been exposed to pressure games before and
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that helps them and and stay as
coaches. Experience and things like that helps
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them because that, at the end
of the day, once the buckets dropped,
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the shifted too in most of them
settling pretty good right on, I
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suppose. I mean if they're all
trying to be or are already professionals,
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than they've been exposed to a little
bit of that already. Yeah, these
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kids today, it explore you.
They've had hockey like, you know,
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like with the the starts, I
think on one thus fourteen, hundred and
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fifty, and these guys are on
that program pretty well all the way up.
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So, yeah, they're always used
to first of all having to make
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the team and then of course going
against good international competition after that. So
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what's it like? You know,
we've seen these young kids of the World
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Juniors, like trevor's egris and Connor
but ARD. They're not playing the way
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that people have always been playing hockey. Like do you ever just shake your
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head at like what you're watching and
like why is this kid ripping from the
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bottom of the circle at the boards? But then you watch it go short
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side and you're like okay, I
guess keep doing it. Then yeah,
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it's it's one of the one of
the things about being experienced and and,
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like I said, it's been it's
been twenty I think. I think I've
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been at at this from terms of
making my living at it since ninety five.
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So so we're looking at roughly twenty
seven years up it. And so
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one of the I think one of
my strengths, and that twenty seven years,
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is obviously you have to adapt,
know you you you have to change.
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And coming up in the S and
s probably the best term to describe
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that are was old school. You
know, there was it was brawls,
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it was running Goldie's, there was
violence in the game. But the game
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has changed now. You know,
fightings almost extinct. You know, the
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real physicality now isn't so much running
the guy through the end of the wall
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as it is, you know,
cutting his hands off, stripping on the
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Puck, you know, being above
for those for those bumps in the neutral
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zone, bumps off faceoff. That's
more the physicality now in the seat of
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skill level of these these players as
they developed, it's it's astonishing what they
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can do and for me to get
my eyes I mean I very fortunate over
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the years of my connections with hockey
can and doing the under eighteen in the
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world juniors. You know, I
the eighteen one year I had had sidney
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crosby and at the world championships I
econo mcgave it and now I got connorverdart
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at the World Juniors and and his
potential. Now somebody put it out lat
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at the world junior camp in December
and our team is that really had the
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potential, and that team is they
have three consecutive number one and NHL number
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one overall in Nhil picks wall power
already is there's talk to chain rights going
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to be this year and then conniverarity
is the guy that's that's you know,
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it projected in a let slot next
year. So that just gives you an
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idea of the talent. Stuff like
that. But it's like it's like I
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tell them, as like I told
Connor, but there, when I had
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them at Christmas time, I said
listen, Connor, I said that when
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you have the puck on your stick, you don't need me. You got
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that part of it. Master,
I said, but where I could help
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you a little bit, as when
you don't have the puck on your stick
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and how our teams going to play
to get it back. And he was
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very stepped up to that and as
good as you know he's, he gets
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all his accolades and that as being
an offensive jugger out what he certainly is.
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But everybody has to be able to
play some degree of defense to get
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the ice time that they're happy with
in the big games. And you know,
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you just look at, we use
Tampa Bay as an example, guys
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like stamp coast, Chakirov, Couchuref
you know that they figured that ever.
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So they play at all situations,
they play when the Games on the line,
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so that they figured that out and
they want that and they're competitive enough
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that they will figure it out.
It on and it's good to see that
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see the offensively gifted players aren't just
trying to, you know, take up
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the next role as of Etchkin and
just sit on the power play and shoot
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pucks all day, of guys like
Matthews who are coming back on the defensive
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side of the park and trying to
and mcdavid, even in the playoffs,
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taking his game up a notch,
which we didn't know as possible. But
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yeah, you know, it's a
rounic because when you all those names you
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mentioned are great examples, but it's
some guys which really amazing. But those
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guys is is that when they figure
it out, like some some guys get
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a pretty quick like crosby. Yeah, it's right. Then other guys,
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other guys played for years, like
Oh Vetchka, but until until they figure
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it out, very rarely do they
win the Stanley Cup. And a lot
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of times it's it's it's later in
their careers when they realize that Stanley Cup
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window maybe shutting and and for whatever
reason, salary cap or age, whatever
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their team is, it's windows closing. But you know, you look at
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you look at I think Austin Matthews
is a good example. You look at
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him. You know, I think. I don't think he was first in
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the league this year or by no, he was topping in terms of all
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we called takeaways. Well, takeaways
basically back checking. That's just and in
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the S and seventy and I play
with called back check it. Now it's
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called takeaway. So the terminology change
but results the same. And so and
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he's relatively a young guy. So
that that that boads well soon in from
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Toronto, Maple leafs and and there's
no guarantees, but certainly your odds are
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winning go up when your best players
are doing that. We're cutting close on
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time here. I'll hit you with
one more question and have like five minutes
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left and assume we did. Just
don't want to even cut out on us
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without saying are you on the your
are you coaching in Halifax and Mountain?
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That's no, for you're not.
No, no, that would know.
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Yeah, will be crazy, I'd
imagine. Yeah, facts. I actually
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have one more question to here.
Sure, yeah, I think there's a
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nickname the Moose. Yeah, correct. Can we just hear where that may
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have come from, if it's,
you know, appropriate or all? Oh,
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yeah, it's. I it's ironic
because because I had I got that
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name like really I I see,
really young, I would say six or
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seven years old, to the point
where if you if you when I was
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in high school to university, if
you called me David, I probably wouldn't
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answer you. Yeah, I did
it that I was known, as a
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matter of fact. As a matter
of fact, when I when I first
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went played in the National Hockey League
and one of my first Games in Calgary
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I was playing skating around a warm
up and stuff like that, and a
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guy play high school hockey with was
there. Name he him and I met
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afterwards. Believe it. He said
I was yelling at you, David,
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David, and you never looked at
me. What's he held? Moves,
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he said, I I found them, which is true. I mean that
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was just wait, but I got
the name from my uncle and I don't
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know if you guys would remember,
but back everybody used to have a screen
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door. Yeah, and you know
that was just kind of wooden door and
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you know, and like the real
nice now, if you see a screen
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door now it's it's real fancy and
really expensive, but back in those days,
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basically favorite screen door was a wooden
frame with hinges on it and just
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a big piece of screen to keep
the flies him. So I don't know
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what was going on, but somebody
was chasing me and instead of going open
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and it or going through what,
I went through the screen and my uncle
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just said that, look at the
Big Moose. And that's that's how that
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name, that's how I got that
name, of that name stuck. Yeah,
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wow, good nickname. Yeah,
I've run through a couple of screen
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nuys in my day, for sure. That's awesome. Yeah, crazy how
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they stick like that. I mean
even Turk, I think he got his
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whenever he was a real young kid
to like chasing Turkeys or something. I
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can't remember. Yeah, but I'm
not sure the story. Be have a
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yeah, but they step PIPI PIYS
PRETTY I won't say famous, but there's
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a lot of people Pi with a
nickname like yeah, probably probably one of
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the one of the cruelest nicknames.
So brother Ricky, so we we call
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him Sammy. So, okay,
how he got that nickname? So his
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summer job, he used to work
at Atl there is summer side, and
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it just shows you. Now Five, five brothers growing up. How how
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we took we took no prisoners,
we just said. But anyway, he
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and he ended up getting sick with
Salmonella, which is sold. So he
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was sick and heat, but he
got the long turn. He was sick
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for a while. A lot of
people got it, kind of maybe like
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the flu are over. He was
sick for a while. So I'm not
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sure which one of his with someone. They come up with the nickname Sammy.
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That stuck with him. So did
you still calm Sammy now? No,
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comb say. Yeah, Oh yeah, so nicknames, nicknames have a
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history. Yeah, all right,
no rocky egg yolk milkshakes for that guy.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's
hilarious. Well, I mean,
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it's been awesome having you on.
We appreciate you taking your time here past
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to luck in August with the World
Juniors, I mean us, along with
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the whole country, will be cheering
pretty hard for you. Is Well,
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thanks, guys. That appreciate it
anytime and, like I say, you
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can always use luck, so I
appreciate that. Ye will be sending it
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your way. Okay, thanks,
gentlemen. Thank you, Joe. Okay,
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by see you, but
