Side note... who are we dressing for?

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Hi.
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Hey girl, honey.
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Hi.
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Good morning.
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Or good afternoon.
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Good afternoon.
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We do that every time.
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I know.
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As I sit here, this is I literally just looked at my face.
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I'm like, well, this is why I want a facelift.
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See that right there?
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See that?
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Yes, I see it.
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I don't like it.
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Well, I do think that really probably the only actual way to fix that is genuinely a facelift.
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There's a new fat thing coming.
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I don't think that you should play around with stuff like that on your face.
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It's fat.
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It's not like filler, just fat.
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That's a risk.
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I don't know.
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Like at the end of the day, you have loose skin because you lost weight and you're of a certain age where collagen production isn't happening like as rapidly.
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And you just need someone.
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I mean, I'm not saying that you need to, but I'm saying like so here's I I brought okay.
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Well, I'm just I just noticed that every time I'm on Zoom and I'm talking and I uh my face is just normal, I just see it's and it's the side that I sleep on.
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Like my right side is much better, and I do still sleep with the self-pillowcase, but I think you should sleep on your back because then it'll just I know.
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Well, I do now sleeping on my back more because my back is so fucked, but that's besides I'm just gonna move my computer a little bit, so that might that's okay.
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Okay, so here we have a couple.
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I know everybody enjoyed the um eyeglass show, so I thought I'd bring a few more options to see what everybody but like here's my my you know red and black tortoise look.
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Okay.
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Here's another red look.
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But you haven't worn those before?
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Oh, I have all of them.
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They're all over the house.
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I haven't worn any of these on the I have not worn any of these on the pod, and I still have some more.
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I I was gonna try and gather.
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You're hitting your mic.
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I'm not, I'm not anywhere near my mic.
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You're hitting something and it's making a noise.
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Alright, I'll try and be more quiet.
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I still hear it.
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I like those.
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I like the ones that you started with.
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Something that you're doing right there is making a noise.
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I'm sorry.
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It's Thor.
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He has a ball.
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Well, tell him that he needs to go elsewhere.
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Go elsewhere at the ball.
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You can't have the ball.
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Sorry.
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Oh, sorry, everyone.
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Well, I'm just saying the ball to entertain him.
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We're trying to up our audio game, and Thor's trying to sabotage.
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Thor, are you trying to sabotage our audio game?
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Can I see the first ones that you had on?
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Sure.
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Puppy! Uh-oh.
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I'll put him on the bed.
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Hang on.
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I'll make him go up on the bed with it.
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I like the red with your shirt.
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Okay, we'll stick with these.
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Puppy, come here.
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Hold, please.
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I'll be right back.
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I'll hold.
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Sorry.
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Well, then I'll just tell everyone about my new obsession.
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Oh well, I guess.
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Um.
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So I'm a Kindle, we are Kindle readers for like for the most part.
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And I find- I'm so confused, Mima.
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I just have to say he just doesn't understand what happened.
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Or you shouldn't have him.
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He figured it out.
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He figured it out.
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He went up on the bed and found it.
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You shouldn't have him in your podcasting studio.
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But I give Tiny the boo.
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So I can't.
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Oh.
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Sorry.
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Um.
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Anywho, so we are Kindle readers.
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And for the most part, like Kindle is, first of all, it's so convenient.
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And also I tend to read a lot, like in bed at night or like in the middle of the night when I'm not able to sleep.
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But I went to my in-laws this weekend and I forgot my Kindle.
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And so we went into like a bookstore and I got my book, which is, by the way, Sunrise on the Reaping, the new Hunger Games book.
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Which I'm just like, it's literally bringing me back to reading the original books.
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Like just her writing.
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It's not like it's so overwhelmingly like unique, just like she puts you in the world so fast.
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Um, but I am loving having a book, reading a physical book, like only a soft cover.
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Squares by it, Mark's.
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I know, and I and I understand like book purists wanting, first of all, I get wanting all the books because it looks so good.
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But it's just it's not feasible.
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Like I can't turn the light on in the middle of the night when I can't sleep.
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So I need I'm not gonna buy it twice.
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Right.
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So, but I am just I'm finding this so it's enjoyable to enjoyable to like hold the book and and like crease the pages, and it's just so lovely.
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And seriously, like if you're a Hunger Games person, even I think if you've only read the book, I mean only watched the movies, I think that you should read this book because the movie comes out in November and it's just fantastic.
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We have it on our Kindle, so yeah, I did in fact, this is a double purchase, but I'm uh I'm just really enjoying the book.
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And it was so funny because we went into the sweetest bookstore in my husband's hometown, and I'm like looking through all of like the I'm looking through like new fiction, whatever, and I'm like, do you happen to have the newer like the newest Hunger Games book?
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She was like, Oh yeah, and she like took me back to the kids section.
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I was like, I was like, I guess I wasn't gonna find it.
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Yeah, well, but that's okay.
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It's so lovely and enjoyable, and yeah.
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All right, well, that I love that for you.
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Yeah.
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Um, so what's up?
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What are we chit-chatting about today?
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Well, it's Labor Day, it's Labor Day.
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So we're getting a little extra weekend.
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Love that, which is so nice.
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And I'm just a little depressed.
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It's like summer's over.
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I'm so excited.
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Fall is my favorite season of the year.
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Bye summer, like see you never.
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I know it's just it, I then I just would it's I just start thinking about like first of all, there's so much more of a relax.
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I feel like in the summer, work is a little bit more relaxed.
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I don't feel that way.
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I don't know.
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More than that.
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I mean, yes, I especially for me for work.
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Take your phone off the table.
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Um especially for me.
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Yeah, buzz.
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Okay.
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Um, especially for me for work, like what we're about to go into is my busiest season, but it's also kind of fun.
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Like we have such great stuff, and like it, I don't know, it like moves fast, but everything like fall is the happiest time.
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I'm so excited.
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We were literally walking down the street the other day, and or no, literally yesterday, we're like walking up, making a turn onto our street, and I look at Peter and I go, I am so excited for Halloween.
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Like, I just like the street is really fun.
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Oh my god, and it's a Saturday, like it's gonna be such a fun.
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I'm so I love Halloween, and it's like the anniversary of when we bought our house.
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All right, it's the happiest time of the year, and I'm gonna be 30.
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It's gonna be crazy.
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Wow.
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I know.
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It is kind of crazy, very exciting, fun, fun fall.
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Right, so I just it was like, I get that, but then I just feel I do feel like, well, I guess not.
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I mean, you go, you it's like Thanksgiving.
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I just feel like it's like it's one of those longer stretches before like time off.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, I do get that.
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I think that and then I start thinking about winter, and I'm just praying this winter isn't as cold as last winter because I think it's a little bit more.
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I know it was freezing and there was so much like wet snow.
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Although I think it's the Yel Nino is gonna be, it means it's gonna be warm and wet for us.
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So it's rainy.
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No, but it's not good for a lot of things, but it just means that we're not gonna be freezing our asses off, which I am not against.
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I'd rather it be snow.
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Yes, but don't you remember how miserable the snow is?
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Yeah, last year was crazy.
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Like it got to the point where Peter bought a freaking um snowblower.
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Snowblower.
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We were like in snow up to our knees, like it was kind of wild.
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It was a little crazy out there, but fun.
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Oh, you know what I said?
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I told Randy this year, Randy is my mother-in-law, that we should all take a trip to Jim Thorpe.
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Okay, and like it's like so cute.
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Maybe like in the beginning of December or something, like it could be for a day, like it doesn't need to be a whole thing, but like that town is so cute in the winter.
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Is it?
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Yeah, it turns into like a snow globe.
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Is that right?
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Yeah, we've been there.
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No.
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Yes, we have.
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No, we've never been to Gyn Thorpe.
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Nan used to go.
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You're sure I've never gone?
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I I mean, I I swear I have such a memory of being there.
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It's like such a cute little are you thinking about New Hope?
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I mean, maybe, but they they're kind of similar.
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I I don't think Jim Corners a little far.
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I don't think we've been.
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Right, it's like the Poconos.
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It's not that far.
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Yeah, it's like two hours.
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Is it?
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I have I I honestly I think I've been there.
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Dad and I, I think went like hiking there.
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I swear I've been there.
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Okay.
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Whatever.
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Anyway, or I've just only see it, see oh, maybe I went with camp, but like I wouldn't know what it was like in the winter.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Anyway, I think that we should all go, and I think it would be really fun.
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There's this other thing, and now I can't remember the whole name.
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Cherry something.
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Is it campgrounds in Pennsylvania?
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Cherry Springs.
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Okay.
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And it's a um, what do they call it?
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Like a dark sky preserve.
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So you're not allowed to have light near.
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So oh my gosh, you can like see the stars.
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The stars and just the sky.
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Oh, yeah.
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We were looking at pictures last night and it looked very cool.
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The only problem is if you go there, you sort of have to like even though I see a lot of things.
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Oh no.
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Yeah, I think this is like if you Google it, it's crazy what you see.
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I have no interesting pictures, but you have to like camp camp.
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No.
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And I'm I'm not a camp camp girl anymore.
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And I'm not I'm not a camp girl.
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Period.
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Yeah.
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I mean overnight camp, but not in a town.
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Yeah, I need a bed.
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I need a bed.
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I'm too old.
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I'm 30.
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And it was like uh yeah, no, last night we're saying, oh, you can bring a blow-up mattress.
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I'm like, that's not gonna work for me.
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I mean, I guess depending on the blow-up mattress, I could maybe do it for a night, but I'll I'll just go up and back in the same day.
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Why does it why does it be?
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Yeah, I don't know where it is.
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I can't remember how far it is, but I think well, the point is you're there till very late at night so you can see the stars.
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I would like still rather get at that point.
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It's dark at eight o'clock, like pitch black.
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Yeah, I don't know what the the timing preference is, but anyway, that's a thought.
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Jim Thorpe, Charity Springs, or whatever it's called.
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Okay.
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Things to do in nature that we'll probably not ever do.
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No, we are going to Jim Thorpe.
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I'm not scamping.
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Okay, we'll we'll do a little research on Jim Thorpe.
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Maybe we went we're there, but I swear 100% sure.
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But okay.
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Okay.
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Um I was thinking about I've been thinking about a bunch of things this week.
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Okay.
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One was something I wanted to talk about last week, but like we we didn't need to talk about two ads, and I understand that we're not gonna make this about like this is not gonna be a podcast criticizing ads or discussing ads or whatever.
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But I thought it was interesting.
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Have you seen the new Sydney Sweeney ad?
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I watched it right when you asked me to.
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So she has her own.
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For those of you who don't know, she has her own lingerie.
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She's launching like an a lingerie company.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I think the ads have started somewhere.
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I haven't actually seen them anywhere, but I don't tend I don't know where I would see them.
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You would see them on Instagram where you saw them.
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Oh, I don't know.
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I guess my algorithm isn't set for that.
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But where did it be?
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I don't know how did you know about it?
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I do not know how I got it.
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So then your algorithm is great because you saw it.
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I don't think I saw it from a random scroll of Instagram.
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I just regardless, like it it came across your desk.
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That's the point.
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Yeah, and I don't know whether it was as a as a fallout from when I was doing my deep dive on good good golf.
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Speaking of which, side tangent pinned the Sydney Sweetie ad for a second.
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I did see an Instagram post about the good good golf situation.
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Now, this guy, I'm sure he was, I didn't even look into it to see if it was true.
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Basically posted a thing saying there was like a well, first of all, the CEO and somebody else got fired.
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They aren't like the dudes.
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I saw they're the business people.
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So unfortunately, I guess they suffered as a result, whatever.
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Um, but this one guy posted a thing, I think I said it to you, maybe, that said there was some stock buyback that was happening.
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I someone commented that on our TikTok.
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Oh, and then that's why they did it.
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That they purposely did it because somebody was buying Callaway or somebody was buying stock buy back and they wanted to tank the price because they know eventually it'll come back.
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No, don't believe it for one second.
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But like that's really great, and I'm glad that they were able to come up with that.
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Um, good for them.
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But no.
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Um, yeah, so I just thought that was interesting.
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Anyway, the Sydney Sweeney ad is her in a bunch of different lingerie outfits for her.
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It's like her birthday celebration.
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Right.
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And I this is where it's gonna be.
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I I don't know.
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I don't think I'm a prude, but I guess I am.
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Well, I don't know that you're a prude or that it's like a generational difference, but you kept saying, like, wait until the end, wait until the end.
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And I kept being like, what is gonna happen?
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Like, is she gonna like open up her legs?
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Like, I didn't understand what was going on.
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And the ad finished, and I could have sworn there was no way I watched the ad that you were telling me to watch because literally nothing happened.
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She like rolled around the kitchen in some lingerie.
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She crawled across the tate the table and to like lick the cake at the end.
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Okay, and like what's your point?
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She's fully clothed, first of all.
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I I mean the word fully clothed to me is a joke.
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She's saying like she's not like she's not naked.
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Honey, she's wearing but what are you offended by?
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Like, I'm just confused.
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Offended.
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I just am like, to me, it is, and like I said, I said to me it's like porn, and then you know, I mean, it's not mom.
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I think that you should do a little bit of research and go watch some porn, and then you might feel better about Sydney Sweeney's ad.
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I know it's not porn, and I'm not saying look, she looks amazing.
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Okay, so how is that?
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Okay, so we just a couple, I guess like maybe two months ago was the sports illustrated like swimsuit runway or the Victoria's Secret switch, like what's the difference?
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So I guess none.
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All I'm saying is I all I keep, you know, that her whole thing is about empowerment and you're allowed to look anyway, way you want to look, and you're allowed to dress sexy and whatever, and right go women woo, right?
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I mean, she definitely has some scandal surrounding her, but unrelated to her.
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Right.
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But my only I can't I keep on thinking, here are all these here we are, women.
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And it makes me think about like the way I sound so fucking old, and I can't.
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But I'm just like trying to get at so I want you to continue because I'm trying to understand what about it is actually like striking a chord with you.
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Because I think you're saying it's feminist.
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No, it's but men have like managed to convince us that this is empowering and they're fucking laughing their asses off while we wear less and less clothing and dress more provocatively and sexy every step of all.
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I fully believe inside of my core that women dress for women and women care what they look like for women because no one cares what men think.
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Like so, but so you're saying when a bunch of like college.
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I'm saying if I dress like her like if I look no college girls aren't that's not a woman, but you know what a college, they're they're young, they want to dress for boys because that's but that's how we end up where we go.
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Like we we have to attract the opposite sex, I mean, or whatever, but like biologically for reproduction, we have to attract the opposite sex so that we can procreate.
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I mean, I'm not like I don't care, date whoever you want, and it doesn't need to be the opposite sex, but I'm just saying, like, that's biology.
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So you're saying that's that's why we No, I'm saying that if I looked like her with those boobs and that flat ass stomach, I would walk around naked all the time.
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But she's not naked, right?
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And she's not good restraint on her part.
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Like I don't know.
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It's just something I do but like I'm just confused.
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I wanna I don't know if the whole adhaper if the right, see, this is where I'm going.
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You're like, oh, it's so not feminist because we're doing this for the man.
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Why can't she do that?
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She should do whatever she wants, she looks great.
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You're not being a feminist by eye.
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I guess I'm not.
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I guess I'm but what about the going across the table bothered you?
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I don't know.
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I feel like it's like I feel like that is like out of like a porn thing.
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Just like crawling around, not a table.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like it's just I don't it's very provocative.
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It's intended to be, right?
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I but that's what I'm saying.
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Like, I think that everything you're getting from it is the intention.
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I just think that that's because it's a lingerie, she's not like climbing across a table in like skydiving gear, like trying to be sexy.
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She's literally in the sexy thing that you're supposed to wear, like that you wear to be sexy, being sexy.
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Like, I feel like it's the whole point.
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Like, if you came to me and she was selling, she has had her own stuff with other ads.
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With the jeans things, oh what I can't remember what that was.
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So it was very which is an interesting take from us, but basically, you know, she's got that big blonde hair, blue eyes, and it was an American Eagle ad.
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And the whole thing was like jeans are passed down, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and my jeans are blue.
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Like, jeans as in denim, as in eye jeans.
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But people took it like as like this anti-Semitic pushing up neo-Nazi blah blah blah, which I I I'm not like saying that I'm her biggest fan, but I think that that was like a massive stretch.
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But I think that they thought it was funny because she's hot.
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So, like, if you saw that ad and you were like, she's wearing jeans, like, why are why is she climbing across the table?
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Then I would be like, okay, I agree.
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Like, everything doesn't have to be like so provocative, but she's it's literally a lingerie brand.
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Like, it has to be just I I like I said, like I guess there's like a little part of you.
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If you walk through the mall and Candace Swannepel is like in a tiny little push-up bra and a little G-string on a Victoria's Secret, like in a Victoria's Secret window, are you?
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It's all the same.
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It's all the same.
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You're right.
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You've never said anything about that.
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So I'm just thinking that's a good one.
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And that doesn't bother it that for some reason, and I don't know why.
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The that ad seemed like very over the top.
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Maybe because it was a commercial.
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I don't know why.
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It was I I don't know, it's all along the same continuum.
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Sports Illustrated, yeah, Victoria's Secret, it's all the same.
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But then I still like I go back to my thing where I'm like, and you say women dress for women.
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I do believe that.
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Dress definitely.
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Now, like I don't know.
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I'm saying, but like I would like they're not walking around like hey, like, let me show you my new boostie.
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I mean, like that to me, whoever you're attracted to, whether it's to the same sex, you're wearing that type of clothing to feel sexy with somebody you want to be intimate with.
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You're doing that sexual.
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Right, but I'm saying you're not wearing that to wear, right?
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But you're not showing it.
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Because it's not to share with your girlfriends, it's well, you started out saying I believe I'm just for women, and I agree with that.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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The ad did absolutely nothing to me, maybe because I'm desensitized.
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Well, if you're 30 years younger than me, that's why.
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I mean, I will say the only other person, well, I showed it to Mark, he's like, that was great.
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You love that.
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Um, and I showed it to my sister Eileen, whose take was the same as mine.
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Yeah, I just think your take like is outdated.
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I guess because I'm old.
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You're not though, and it's it's surprising coming from me because I tend to lean more prudish than you.
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I know.
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Well, that is what is weird, right?
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I don't know if it was because it was commercial or whatever.
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Like what do you mean commercial?
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Like that's not aired on television.
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No, I think it's a good idea.
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It's like on your social media feed.
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It's not so old.
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I mean, it's like, what is it?
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Is that where that will air?
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That will not air on any sort of real media.
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It's just for social media.
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First of all, let me just be clear.
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We live in the age where it being on television is probably less effective than it.
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Being on social media.
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So like it's going out to the world in the best ways.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Do I think that grandma's gonna come across it on like Channel 5?
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No.
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No.
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Or whatever.
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Yeah.
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It's just I I mean, I don't know.
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There's it's I'm telling you, there's it's obviously generational.
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Clearly, we're seeing it.
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I'm just I'm so interested.
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Like it was such an interesting experience because I'm watching it and I'm going, I'm like waiting for this thing.
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Like I'm literally waiting for her to like spread her legs.
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She's like bopping around some like old 90s kitchen or something.
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Yes.
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And she looked great.
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Yeah, she I mean she's hot.
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Yeah.
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You're funny.
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Um, yeah, no, I don't know.
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It's just weird.
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The other thing that obviously to be talked about is, which I know you don't have a whole lot of interest.
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It's not that I don't have interest, I just, you know, it's been spoken about.
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There's only so much to say.
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Do you think that's true?
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It really hasn't, I mean, it's been spoken about over the last couple of I'm saying, like, well, mom, people have been following this trial for a long time.
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Yes.
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All right.
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.599
So obviously we're talking about the Lindsay Clancy trial.
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Yes.
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So what um what are you doing?
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As a lawyer.
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As a lawyer, well, as a lawyer, I found it interesting.
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I did not realize, and I haven't dug really deep into this, but apparently Massachusetts has it it happens in certain contexts, and I can't remember some of the other ones.
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Normally, when you're charged with a crime, if you assert a defense, you know, like if you're like charged with killing somebody and you have an alias or or you know, whatever, you say I wasn't there, you the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove that defense.
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Okay.
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So in certain situations, a and on and in this case, it it's unusual the way it worked.
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If you say her defense was basically they she admitted that she did it, so there was no question of whether she actually was like guilty of the crime, yeah, but that she was not criminally responsible because her mental state in a mental psychosis.
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She was not required to prove that she was not criminally responsible.
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So they were burden of proof was shifted to the prosecutor to disprove that.
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So she was given the benefit of the doubt.
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Sort of.
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And they needed to prove that she didn't deserve.
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Normally, that is when you have, I b I believe, when that when you have a burden to prove a defense or something like that, it's you have to prove it by clear and convincing evidence.
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So when they flip it back to the prosecutor, the burden gets a little bit lessened.
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So they didn't have to disprove it by clear and convincing evidence.
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They had to disprove it only by reasonable doubt.
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I mean, it's a very confusing way of saying it, but it's a slightly lesser standard.
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Like reasonable doubt is a little bit lesser of a standard than clear and convincing.
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So they only had to disprove it by a reasonable doubt, which is not, it's like two negatives.
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I'm not, there's I don't really know how to say it well.
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But so, but I thought it was interesting that she just has to say, here's my defense, and then she's not required really.
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:47.519
I mean, obviously they offered evidence, but she's not really required to prove to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt, or by clear and convincing evidence.
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.640
So, in what you said, on the prosecutor.
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I mean, here's my take on that.
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I I think the the fact that they're basic premise that was that it was, you know, a planned whatever she, you know, sent her husband far enough away to a restaurant to pick up food and timed whatever, and knew that he was gonna be gone for a certain period of time, that that is evidence of like a planned methodical killing, and that if you have a planned methodical killing, that you couldn't be you you have to be criminal responsible.
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:33.440
You have to be you can't, but I I don't think that's that to me, make that's not doesn't make sense.
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Like, I mean, did it was it that was the option that if the only way she could have done it would have been like he was standing in the kitchen and she laid down on the floor with the babies and like killed them right there in front of him?
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I mean, that's that would not make sense to me.
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:56.880
So I think their the prosecution's argument that that was proof of her not psychosis or intent or whatever ability.
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They're basically saying if she had the ability to plan this, then she couldn't have been not of sound mind.
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And I just I don't know that I necessarily like accept that because my feeling is you kill your three kids, you slit your wrists, and she did one, took pills, and then jumped off the second story of her house.
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:24.079
How is she not created like how is she not in an altered sin, right?
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And who is who, I'm sorry, who was I mean, she was a labor and delivery nurse.
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.599
Like, I mean, you couldn't, do you know that about her?
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:32.319
Yeah.
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:51.839
I mean, you could who are like the whole it's in it's to me as a mom, I mean, it's one thing when you have these situations where people, which are obviously horrible, where you find out that parents are keeping their children in very abusive situations.
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.880
Now, obviously, it's all along a line, right?
00:27:54.960 --> 00:28:02.960
Where you have kids who are found starving and neglected and all these terrible things, and obviously people who physically abuse their children, all of those things.
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There's all levels of like sickness and unwellness.
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Yeah.
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:11.519
And at a certain point, there's a line where we say, You are still responsible for those actions.
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Agreed.
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.680
And a line where you say you are no longer responsible for those actions.
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:16.079
Yeah.
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:22.160
I mean, I think a big thing in this that people are struggling with, well, two things.
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.519
The first being that she was begging for help.
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Yeah.
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She was telling her parents, her husband, like friend, like she was telling so many people.
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And they put her on a bunch of drugs.
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And they put her on a bunch of drugs.
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Which like drugs.
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.799
My mother-in-law said it perfectly.
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Like, what a what a snapshot of our country and like what we do and what our Western medicine has decided is like the solution to problems.
00:28:48.480 --> 00:29:01.920
And I'm all for properly medicated people, but like this woman is saying that she wants to kill her children, and we're like pumping her full of like SSRIs and what like it's so backwards.
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:24.480
So, like, you know, I was arguing with Peter's best friend, our friend, about this, and I was saying, like, how how much responsibility gets transferred over to her husband who knows this woman is saying to you on multiple occasions, like, I want to, my brain is telling me that I need to save our children by killing them.
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:24.960
Right.
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And he's going and picking up food.
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:28.079
Right.
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.640
I don't I didn't follow up all the details, but I know at one point they had a nanny helping them.
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.880
Yes, and she was like the yeah, she had to go and then they didn't bring her back.
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.279
I didn't read everything because it started to make me like a little bit physically ill.
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:41.920
Yeah.
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:43.519
Um, for everything.
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:49.200
I mean, at the end of the day, and we were listening to Amanda Hirsch, not skinny but not fat, talk about this.
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Like, at the end of the day, three children were pin on that as well, were wrongfully murdered.
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A hundred percent.
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There is no that is the headline.
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:00.400
Right.
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:07.599
Unfortunately, the headline is changing because now she had the basically, I was saying, they need to figure out what to do with her.
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:15.200
Like, right, do they put her behind like standard in a standard prison and charge her as a regular criminal?
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.839
I think they're not gonna charge her, they're not bringing that case again.
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.279
Oh, you know it was a mistrial.
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.200
I know, but you don't think they're gonna try her again?
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.160
So where are they gonna put her?
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.640
So the what I was thinking is two things can happen.
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:33.359
One is that I mean, I don't look, I think that woman is living in her own hell and probably trying to kill herself again.
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:34.000
Oh my god.
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.400
So that's my that's my belief on that.
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:37.440
I completely agree.
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.359
Um but you know, right now she's back in a psychiatric facility.
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.880
Yeah, I think she can stay there forever, correct?
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.440
But they're not gonna keep her there forever.
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.680
Not unless she voluntarily committed herself.
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:56.880
I mean, the problem is she's no longer in the longer in the psychosis.
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:03.599
It's different when you have somebody who is unwelcome mentally forever and it's a continuing state.
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:04.559
You know, postpartum.
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:05.920
But so what do they do?
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.519
She gets she she walks she goes into the world.
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.559
I mean, she's not gonna go anytime soon because they have a certain period of time for like this.
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.680
I I can't remember, but they'll have a period of time to decide how long they're charging.
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.200
Because it's gotten much too much public.
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.039
They can't not try again.
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.759
I know, but where are they finding a jury who's gonna be able to hear the evidence clean again?
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.559
Like under a rock, where in this country?
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.880
They I mean, first of all, it's interesting to me that they did not sequester the jury.
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.480
It's a six-week trial.
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.240
I know, and they did not sequester the jury.
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.599
They did not start picking up traction.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:50.319
No, I know, but I'm saying those people had the ability, I mean, they were told not to, obviously.
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.559
But that's the world we live in.
00:31:53.039 --> 00:32:01.759
I know, but you're not you're supposed to basically take suck them away and not even that one day and a half thing, they took my phone away from me, and I you know what I mean.
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.480
Like, I you're not supposed to have access to those things.
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:09.039
So I I you can't sequester people for six weeks, like that's whatever.
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:11.599
But how are you finding a jury now?
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.319
Well, you know, it basically made their minds up.
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:27.200
It opens an interesting question in that these rules of our court and our systems of law and our juries were created before people had such ready access to information.
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.799
And does that mean that at some point those things will have to change?
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:40.400
Yeah, I mean, I I don't know what's gonna change, but it is But like systemically, yeah.
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:53.759
But if you think about it, people didn't have phones like that when they were creating all these rules about like, you know, don't consume that was just like don't turn on the news, or even before that, don't read the newspaper.
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:54.319
Right.
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.839
I mean it's unrealistic to think people aren't gonna be on their phones, right?
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:19.200
I mean, I guess like maybe it's it gets to a point where it's like I mean, look, if you're for most people, look, if you're on a jury for uh whatever a case in Philadelphia, I mean our nephew Max had a case in New York, there were some, and it was a murder trial, there were some news reports.
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.599
If you had looked up the defendant's name, you could have found out about him.
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:26.720
But it wasn't like it was your way.
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:27.920
You would have had to look it up.
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:36.160
You could have found out information if you wanted it, but it's not like I mean the this where every podcast influencer whatever is talking about it.
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:37.039
Yeah.
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:37.680
I don't know.
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:38.880
I did find it interesting.
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:49.519
I mean, uh, look, people are like, you know, then there's all the conspiracy theorists that like, you know, the husband did it, and yeah, puts on like I yeah, you know, you go down that crazy.
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.200
I know, I do think it's pretty uh straightforward.
00:33:53.839 --> 00:34:00.079
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's I did read uh unbelievably tra an unbelievable tragedy.
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:01.119
Tragedy.
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:02.079
Tragedy.
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.559
I did read, and I don't know if this is true because I don't know who the guy was.
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:12.639
Some doctor posted something, and he was like, you know, postpartum psychosis.
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:28.159
You can have postpartum depression for a while after a baby, but like that like actual psychosis, which you know presumably was what she was in, like normally only lasts like a month, and like the littlest baby was like what I don't know, six or seven months old or something like that.
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:33.360
Um, and so he was questioning whether you know she had it.
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.239
I'm like, I'm gonna say she did.
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.800
I mean, who knows all the five tales all the time?
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.679
My hope, and that is like I mean, there is no positive outcome.
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:59.760
So, like, my my hope and my like prayer is that that was what she was going through because otherwise the alternative is like too dark, yes, I agree with that to like entertain.
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.559
Yeah, I agree with that.
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.000
But I guess we'll see what they do with this mistrial.
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:06.880
It's very interesting.
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.360
Yeah, I was not expecting that.
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:22.960
And correct me if I'm wrong, the jury was hung one one juror, one juror saying that she should be charged criminally, the other 11 saying that she should not.
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.360
So, you know, that's what I'm saying.
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.519
That's why I think the prosecution won't bring it again.
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.079
Because they already have now because they think they're gonna lose.
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:45.840
Right, because they just all saw that one person and and literally, which I thought was so interesting that we heard this, the foreman reported to the judge that the person who was the holdout was not applying.
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:58.000
I don't really understand it because it's sort of backwards in my mind in terms of standard of proof, but they were saying he didn't he was not applying reasonable doubt.
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.320
I know because standard properly.
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.039
The judge had to reiterate it multiple times.
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:03.519
Right.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.400
So now you basically know, like, and I don't, yeah.
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:15.679
So I the thing is, I think you know, 11 out of 12 jurors would have voted to find her not guilty by reason of like not being criminally responsible.
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.880
I can't imagine they're gonna go back and try and do that again.
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.880
Although somebody did suggest they could enter a lot of the evidence that was like super horrific.
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:49.039
I mean, I can't imagine what that jury saw, like no, I um there could enter a lot of the evidence in just like they wouldn't have to like do it as a whole testimony thing at a live trial, but they could just stipulate to all of it, enter it into evidence, and then just have the jury deliberate on the question of whether or not she was criminally responsible.
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.679
And it would be a fashion potentially a faster trial.
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:52.719
I guess it's possible.
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:53.440
I don't know.
00:36:53.519 --> 00:37:00.159
Well, it's also a lot of you know, it's a lot of resources for you know, it's not a big city, it's a small town in Massachusetts.
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.559
Like it costs to try a case, it's like all those resources actually cost a lot of money.
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:04.800
Yeah.
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:06.480
So I guess we'll see what happens with that.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:17.199
But and as a just as a little because you referenced um Amanda Hirsch, not skinny but not fat, you know, she has uh did you see the whole Fuhrer about her?
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.960
Well, I saw that she like talking about it during an ad break or something.
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:34.320
What was so she she is sponsored by Poly Markets, so she's always talking about this thing or that thing, and oh, and the betting line of polymarkets is that this is gonna happen or that is gonna happen.
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.400
I mean, people bet on those ridiculous things.
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:55.360
She was talking and she's been crazily not an I mean, whatever, she's been very, very in on like following the trial, talking about like how it not invested, but like kind of like can't, you know, like of a train wreck you can't look away, and so sad for the kids and so sad for the mom and tragedy.
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:09.360
Yeah, and then she basically was talking about the mistrial, and then was like, oh, and poly markets, because she's sponsored by polymarkets, on polymarkets, the betting line was whatever it was, and what do you guys think about that?
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:24.239
And oh and people came for her hard, and they were like, You're sitting there professing that you're like so upset by this thing, and she's like mom, and then you basically used it as a way that you monetized it, yeah.
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:29.280
And even if Poly Markets had wanted her to do that, she should she should have been like, I'm gonna skip on that one.
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:30.159
Yeah.
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:38.800
So she actually, I saw all these posts on Instagram about it because I saw her talking about it.
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:45.280
Um, and then um all these people are coming from her, and then she just issued an apology.
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.320
She pulled the post down, and then I saw that she wassued the apology, yeah.
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.519
I mean, look, people make mistakes, they do.
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.320
It's you know, like we said with the good, good, not quite the same.
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.519
It's hard, I think, also the good, good being different.
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:09.039
It's hard when there is this huge current event.
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:18.000
Yes, and there's you know, it is in some way polarizing, not in some way, it's it's in a large way polarizing because people do have different feelings on it.
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:39.679
And even just I mean, obviously this podcast is not monetized, but if we were yet, but if we were, you know, huge and uh if we are were during this time what we hope to become, just talking about it is technically monetizing off of it.
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.480
So there is, you know, it's all a little bit of like a slippery slope.
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.519
Like, where do you draw the line?
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:57.519
Now, reading it in an ad break is definitely different than having like discourse in your like general topic conversation on a podcast.
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:07.760
But technically, yeah, well, that's look, they all they're all talking about current and you know pop culture because you're you're trying to monetize it and draw people.
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:09.039
Of course, they have to do that.
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:09.679
So that's what I'm saying.
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.920
Like technically, that's monetizing on it.
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:30.400
I mean, I'm I'm not saying that it's exactly the same, and there's definitely a little bit more of like oomph on doing it during an ad read, but you know, every podcast that talked about this if they're a monetized right, they want they want clicks, they want people to listen, they want people to hear their takes.
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:31.920
Like that is what that is.
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:33.440
Right, I agree with that.
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.679
So, but I'm sure she'll make that work.
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:36.800
I'm sure she'll be fine.
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:38.000
I'm not worried about her.
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:38.800
No.
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:43.119
Um I finished House of Sassy.
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:44.719
Mm-hmm.
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:46.079
And your thoughts?
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:53.199
I thought the I mean, I I just I don't really give a shit, to be honest.
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.119
Yeah, I I really did not like the show.
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:01.440
I thought it was very weird, and I I think that they were going for something, and I don't think it paid off.
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:03.280
That was like my take.
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:13.199
Well, the end the last obviously is you know, the last um episode is obviously the most dramatic.
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:26.960
But I do, I mean, it's like kind of I don't know, I thought the whole thing was so I mean, look, they're trying to be very break the fourth wall and like it knows that they're that they're a show, which is like kind of interesting, whatever.
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.880
But I thought, you know, I it it I found it so contrived.
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:31.519
Me too.
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:39.360
Like Bo is sitting around having dinner with like his friends talking about his issues with Stasi.
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:39.920
I agree.
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:47.760
Stasi is sitting around having dinner, and all of her friends are talking about how they want to talk to her about the problems that Bo and Stasi are having.
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:55.599
I was like, but also, like, there's just not enough money in the world where I would make like me and conflicts that I have with my husband like the center of a show.
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:56.800
There's just not enough money in the world.
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:58.159
But that's that's her life.
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.960
I know it's just like I find it so juvenile.
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:08.320
Well, I let's put it this way if everybody was happy, happy and there were no issues, no one would be.
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.360
But I'm not saying no, no, they do.
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:22.239
You can have issues, and it cannot be that everyone's throwing around the divorce word, and like you know, everyone's talking about how horrible you are to your husband.
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.239
Like, meanwhile, as dot like she looks like a fucking bitch.
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:28.000
She sucks.
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:30.559
Well, I mean, I don't know.
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:43.920
Does she like we the one line that caught my attention was when she said, if I was a guy, like you know, Christina is her friend Christina's commenting at the dinner, like, I feel this way too, because I'm home taking care of our child.
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:48.880
And I think she's like, I am bringing you this life is being brought to you.
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:54.079
I would find it, I find it so unattractive.
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.840
Like, I think it would be worse if he was like, Yeah, thanks, and I'll stay home with these kids.
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:01.199
Like, how great.
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:07.119
He's like driven and wants to have purpose and a life, and like doesn't want to like live to serve.
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:08.800
Like that to me is a man.
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.079
I I support the fact that he wants to get out there and work.
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:18.400
Also, he wasn't saying I'm gonna go take a finance job where I'm not home for 20 hours of the day.
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:23.519
He wants to like do some casting calls while his kids are at school and they have a nanny.
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:24.800
Like, who cares?
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:25.199
Right.
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.280
Well, I mean, I don't understand what her limitations are.
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:33.280
He wants him to be readily available to her whenever she wants.
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:34.079
Right.
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.760
Because that's what that's the dynamic that they have created.
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:48.880
Which I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to not want the dynamic to change, but like you don't have the right to make the decision because you bring in the money.
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:50.000
Right.
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:51.760
But I do think sometimes that is what happens.
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:57.840
I mean, you flip it with that man who's working, making all this money, the uh woman stays home.
00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:59.760
Do you think that it really happens?
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.440
So often that a woman then is like, please let me go back to work, and a man is like, No.
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.400
Uh no.
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.760
I think that there are probably some men that are like, I I make enough money where I'd rather you just stay home.
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:14.800
And we'll be able to do that.
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:15.840
Interesting side.
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:31.039
The government is now trying to take some of the federal funding that goes to sort of after school care for working families and take some of that money and pay it to families who have stay at home.
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.239
I assume moms, but I guess it could be a dad.
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:34.639
Why?
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:40.800
And pay them because they want to give them, they want to give them money to convict to keep them at home.
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:42.000
Why?
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:53.119
So that you can be raised in a traditional family because your people are better when they're raising their children in a traditional family where traditional family being one parent home, one parent in the workforce.
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:54.320
Correct.
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:55.360
Hmm.
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.800
Yeah, they're gonna give them$9,000, which I don't think that's what they said.
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.800
Which I don't think it's gonna be a little bit of a year anyway.
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:05.440
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna help move the needle very much, but whatever.
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:16.719
Well, you know, it is an interesting conversation though, because I mean, putting aside like this idea of like the traditional family, because clearly we're we're well far beyond that.
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:28.079
But my question really is like, and this is coming from a person, and this is probably a conversation for another episode, who I say it loud and proud, like I'll happily be a stay-at-home mom.
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.000
Like, I I first of all, I think being a stay-at-home parent is a full-time job.
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:33.360
I I believe that.
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:46.960
Um, I do think like when your kids are 15 and they're at school and then they're doing their after school activities, like I would assume that you probably get a little bored of like being a stay-at-home parent and there's other things that you would want to pursue and do.
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:59.039
But do you think it is really like generally a situation where a man is like or a woman is like, no, you stay home, like blah, blah, blah.
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:00.960
Like, if you have all that money, hire a nanny.
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:02.159
Let the let the person work.
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:02.880
Who cares?
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.119
Yeah, no, I look, I am all for that.
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.119
Obviously, you know how I feel about working.
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:13.679
I think it's really important to have your own life and your own sense of purpose and your own career and do all of those things.
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:20.960
Right, but I do I also think that like there are a lot of people who like see their purpose as like being a parent.
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.199
And and a hundred percent true.
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.039
And I was not one of those moms.
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.719
I mean, I loved you guys to death, but I just wasn't going to be.
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.000
I literally, it's so funny.
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:41.119
We were just talking about we have like one main vehicle for the two of us, and then we have like a secondary car that is was is Peter's.
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.920
It was a gift to him, and it is a stick shift car.
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.920
It's not a car that you could drive in any level of weather, and I don't drive a stick.
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:57.679
So we, you know, we talked lightly about how at some point, like we're not gonna remain a one-car household forever, right?
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:03.519
We will need to get a second car, and what that will be and when that will need to be.
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:12.159
Now, I I don't think that that's needs to happen anytime before we actually have kids because we've figured it out for this long.
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:24.639
But, you know, I think of like a mom's car or a family car as big, as with a lot of rows, so that you can do pickup and all the things.
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.880
And I said, Peter was like, you know, if you have two kids, you don't really need more than five seats.
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:38.000
And I was like, Yeah, but if you have two kids, both of which are like in sports and you want or whatever, and you want to be on the pickup list and you want to do all the things.
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.639
I was like, and that's the kind of mom that I want to be.
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:41.840
And then we were like walking in.
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.320
I was like, or it could be my mom and just opt out.
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:49.119
Oh well, you weren't like a carpool mom, not in a bad way.
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:50.880
You just weren't, you were busy.
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.920
Yeah, I think I want to not be busy, yeah.
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.320
Like I want to go do that, right?
00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.079
I I did the I did the late Hebrew school pickup.
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.760
You don't remember right.
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:03.119
No, I didn't know I do.
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:04.000
I used to remember that.
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.800
But did you pick up other people?
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.679
You picked me up, right?
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.800
But I think I I well Alicia was with us for so long.
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:13.440
Right, that's what I'm saying.
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.360
But when we started driving, you were gone.
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:15.599
Right.
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:16.719
We had somebody to do that.
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.400
We had someone who which how amazing that we lived, that there was, you know, our household.
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:33.679
I had two working parents, I mean, also divorced, so a little bit different, but like two working parents, you could afford to pay someone to do all of those pickups and drop-offs and after schools and whatever.
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:39.599
But if it is if the opportunity is available to me, I would like to do those things.
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:44.719
But you don't remember, but I did more of that with you than I did with Jake.
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.880
Like I used to take you to gymnastics in the afternoons and stuff like that.
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.960
As I got older, I worked when you did gymnastics when you were younger.
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.360
We used to go to a place in Willow Grove.
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.119
What was that place called?
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.320
I just remember the dog was Doge.
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:00.960
Yeah.
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:02.320
DOG.
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.239
That's such a good name.
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:15.119
Um but I I used to be there like in the afternoons because when you were little, oh I feel like I didn't stop as much with you.
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:15.920
I don't know how I did it.
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.719
I must have gone, I was all going all different percentages in any way.
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:19.039
Yeah.
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.639
So I think maybe I was home a couple days so I could take you to more things.
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:23.119
Probably.
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:30.480
And then I think once dad and I split, I was working more because I was trying to, you know, gear back up.
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.199
And Alicia was definitely around a lot more.
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:34.159
Yeah.
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:35.760
I mean, I don't know.
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.920
All of it's a privilege in and of itself.
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.559
Like being able to stay home is a privilege, being able to pay for someone to help you is a privilege.
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:43.840
Like absolutely true.
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.280
It's all kind of what you want it to be.
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:53.280
But I wonder sometimes if like the reason that I want I'm not saying that you did nothing, and that's not true, but you were a working.
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:56.400
You were a working mom.
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:01.840
Like, I didn't sign you up to be on carpool lists because I knew you were busy, not in like a bad way.
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:07.280
We just that just wasn't what our family provided to like my friends and whatever.
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:08.079
Correct.
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:22.000
Um, but I wonder if I want to be that because you weren't, like, not in a negative way, just like I wonder if I'm like, oh, like it would be nice because I or like to be the PTA mom or to be the whatever.
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:33.679
I also think, and we don't have to go down this road right now, given stuff going on with dad, yeah, and everything, it was just not the same situation.
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:42.559
And obviously, you know, by the time Jake was born, I mean, I guess I was working part-time, I was around a little bit more.
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:50.960
When Jake, you probably think about it more like from the time you were, which you probably remember more, nine or ten on, I was not around.
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.639
And that was really when that stuff happened, right?
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:54.800
Right.
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:56.400
That was when you needed that, right?
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:57.440
Because I was working a lot more.
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.119
And that was when like Alicia was with us like every day.
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:01.760
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.519
When Jake went to kindergarten, I think she started coming.
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:10.320
He you were nine, he was five, and I was trying to get back like on partnership track.
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:11.119
Right.
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:15.519
Which, like, again, that that was it's all like I had a great idea.
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:24.159
I'm also not um I'm a better mom to older kids than I that's not true.
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.480
I think I'm gonna be a great grandmother.
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:27.760
Of course you are.
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:28.719
I don't know.
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:33.199
I was like not like the oh my god, let's cut play this game for the 56th time.
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.119
I was more like I'm gonna kill myself.
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.760
I mean, I'm not I'm not saying I'm gonna be like yay.
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:40.800
I don't know.
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:46.800
And I I always say, I think we're I'm like not a crafty person, I'm not a necessarily creative person.
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:53.199
Literally, where were we just saying something?
00:51:53.280 --> 00:52:08.000
And I oh my god, we were walking, I was we were in Jersey with our friends, and I was talking about something about you, and I was like, I said something, and my mom, oh, we were talking about wedding.
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:08.960
Oh my god.
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:24.960
Our friend Elaine was telling this story about her mom and how she created this horribly ugly Easter egg decoration, and everyone was so thrown off because they didn't expect that from her because she's like she's like cute, she's like cool, whatever.
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.519
And everyone was like, What the fuck?
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:28.960
How is this this ugly?
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:30.400
And I was like, that's like my mom.
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:39.679
Like, she does not have like create, like, she's not like crafty, creative like that, like drawing, colors, flower, like she can't do stuff like that.
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:47.360
And Peter was like, she has like great style, she's obviously creative, and Elaine was like, Yeah, she has such cool style.
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:50.159
I was like, she has a style.
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.280
Oh, Leah, that's you.
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.199
I go, Yeah, her style is Amazon.
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.920
Oh, that is not forget that.
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:00.880
That's not fair.
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:02.719
I have that is not nice.
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:03.360
You have style.
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:05.280
I'm talking your house, you're like, you look cool today.
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:06.079
You look you too.
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.719
You do, you have I'm just joking, I'm just being annoying.
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.440
You definitely have a style, but you are not like crafty or creative in that way.
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:16.960
No, I completely I I think I know I am able to dress myself in a cool.
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.840
You are I was just being annoying because you know how I feel about another Amazon purchase.
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:25.760
And it is heavily influenced by my Amazon purchases, but I'm trying to stop with that.
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:26.480
I really am.
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:27.280
That's good.
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.119
Um, but I I have a personal style.
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:37.519
Sometimes I'm I I check with you to make sure something I haven't gone too far with something or something looks good, which is helpful.
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:37.920
Yeah.
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.960
Um, and I always feel so good when I send you something and you're like, they're cool.
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:44.239
And I'm like, oh my god, I got it right, instead of like mom, no.
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:48.239
Well, our styles are different, very right.
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:52.639
But you're but you can say to me, Right, mom, no.
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:53.440
Right.
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.920
That's neither my style nor style, your style should be anybody's.
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:00.480
Right.
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:00.960
Right.
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:05.679
Like when I showed you the shoes, the shoes the other day, which I have not gotten because I probably don't need the red.
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.159
Yeah, not for me, but I think that they're very cool.
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:09.280
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:11.360
No, we have very different styles for sure.
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.440
Yeah um, but anyway, yeah, no, thank you.
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.880
No, I am not crafty, I am not creative, I'm not a good drawer.
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:26.159
I, you know, when I remember wanting to be, I'll just tell the full snippet and then we'll probably end because I have nothing else to say on the topic.
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:31.760
When I was growing up, when I was in elementary school, there was um the art teacher, this guy, Mr.
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:32.320
Lee.
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.639
He was like the cool art teacher.
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:39.679
Like he used to play like rock and roll in his, you know, it was like an open classroom kind of thing.
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.039
He just wandered around and did like what he wanted to do.
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.159
And he would he had what he called special art.
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:52.239
I think you got to come in early and go like be creative in his class in his room.
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:59.360
If you were invited to be in special art, and like everybody wanted to be in special art.
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.719
Well, back then we excluded people all the time, we didn't care after feeling scott.
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:04.400
Not about the exclusion.
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:08.079
It's kind of weird of the teacher to be like inviting kids to do things like that.
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.960
Well, I guess it was school sanctioned, I don't really know.
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:18.719
But you would come and you would go to his classroom early, and I guess it was like a time, and like truly, like all like the cool kids went to go in special art.
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:25.199
And I I don't know how I got myself in, but he was kind of like, Yeah, whatever, Nancy, you can come, but like you definitely don't know.
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.599
No, you're not artistic, and I am not.
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.039
Um, Eileen was in it.
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:34.320
I can't remember if Lordy was, but anyway, I had to draw a horse.
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:35.760
Oh Jesus.
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:46.320
And all I know was somebody, and I don't even think it was him, they were like, draw a figure eight, and then basically at I mean it somewhat works, you know.
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:59.280
Like the basic thing is you draw a figure eight on its side, and then you know, basically rectangles for the legs, rectangle for that, and you know, and work that through and like that's sort of like the model for the I like this.
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.639
I'm gonna give it a try.
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:01.199
Right.
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.519
Mine always just looked exactly like a figure agent.
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:05.119
Figurations of rectangles.
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:07.599
You never got the like finish.
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.239
I never got past, I never kind of got past that.
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:12.559
And I was like, uh, I think I kind of dropped out.
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:14.400
I think we all agreed that that was not for me.
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:14.639
Yeah.
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:16.159
That's okay.
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:20.559
You have so much uh like else to bring to the world, yeah.
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:22.480
And I'm in your horse drawing.
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:23.920
Yeah, my horse drawing.
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:24.880
I'll draw it for you one day.
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:26.239
It hasn't gotten any better.
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.599
You have to practice Eileen has all we said, Eileen got all of that.
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:34.960
Yeah, she's very creative and very talented.
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:36.400
Yep.
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:37.760
So anyway.
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:39.360
Anyway, that's my story for the day.
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:46.320
I was gonna tell you, which I could it's just a funny quote, the quote that I wrote down from House of Stasi that I thought was hilarious.
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:49.840
Was, which we're going backwards, I realize.
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.000
I just wanted to tell you that I literally wrote it down.
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:59.840
Stasi at one point in one of the episodes says, like in her confessional, I forget to take his, meaning his her husband, Bo.
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.159
I forget to take his wants and needs seriously because I'm so focused on my own.
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:08.400
I don't know how to get my own past I don't know how to get past my own selfishness.
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.079
It's really hard.
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:11.920
Yeah.
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:13.840
Like who says that?
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.400
And I like that she's so self-aware.
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.039
Yeah, I mean, but like yeah.
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.039
And anyway, you know, she has a TV show because she says that on television.
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:24.239
Correct.
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.800
And she's willing to do that because that's how she's gonna make her money.
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.360
So those taxi, I guess, go after it.
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:30.000
Yeah.
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.800
I don't think I'll be watching season two.
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.440
No, I don't I'm not sure that there will be one, but we'll see.
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.400
We'll say um any final thoughts and notes?
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:42.239
Anything you want to share particularly?
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:43.280
You know what I'm hating right now?
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:44.320
I'll just share that.
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.000
I'm hating my fucked up back.
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:46.719
That's what I'm hating.
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:47.519
Heard.
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:48.800
Heard girl.
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:50.639
Yeah, I'm really unhappy about it.
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:53.360
I really hope it goes back to normal quite soon.
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.440
Other than that, it's a beautiful day.
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:56.559
I'm gonna go outside.
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:57.440
It's so gorgeous.
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.800
I'm gonna love I'm gonna sit out on my back patio and finish.
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:02.800
Oh, not finish, but I have to read more.
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:04.320
I'm like obsessed with the Calamity Club.
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:12.800
Oh, you are if people have not I wasn't sure about in the beginning, and once I got like 20% in, it's really like taken off.
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:14.320
Oh, you're into it.
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:15.840
I'm really into it.
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:16.159
Okay.
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:22.000
And since I read it, I've been on the um steroid pack, so I'm not sleeping a lot at night, so I've been reading a lot at night.
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:23.519
So you're like done.
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:29.679
Normally it's like three pages and I fall asleep, but I've been making more strides because of the lack of sleep.
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:30.639
Yeah.
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.199
Well, you know, there's a silver lining everywhere.
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:34.320
There, that's it.
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:35.679
I'm getting to read more.
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.119
Okay, love that.
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.719
Um, I am it's gorgeous.
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.280
We're gonna have a barbecue with our friends later.
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:44.880
Oh, that's nice.
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:46.079
Yeah, that's fun.
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.480
Um my husband probably gonna drag me on a run.
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:52.480
Oh, did I?
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:57.679
Yeah, we did like an upper body workout right before this.
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:00.480
I'm jealous.
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.760
And then I did say that I would go on a quick run.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:08.559
On a run, not quick, but slow quick.
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:10.159
A slow run.
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:11.519
I don't know.
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:12.320
I don't run fast.
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:14.559
Oh, yes, correct.
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.559
Yeah, um, yeah.
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:19.840
Well, it's a lovely day.
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:21.599
The outside gorgeous.
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:22.559
Yeah, it's amazing.
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:34.000
And yeah, maybe um we should ask people, and maybe we'll clip this riverside, um, what we should talk about next week.
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.760
Because I feel like every week we kind of come on here and we're like, eh, what's I know?
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:39.519
I was a little bit more focused last week.
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.679
This week I was a little less, but I do.
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:43.519
I mean, we're an hour in, we have chatted.
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:44.400
Yeah, we've done it.
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.800
So I mean, if there's one thing we know how to do.
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.760
And we've done, we did Sydney Sweeney.
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:50.000
Right.
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:50.400
You're fine.
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:50.960
I'm curious.
00:59:51.199 --> 01:00:01.360
If you're I'm just curious for my friends who listen, all however many are there, um, watch, find the ad, and then you should get a couple of your friends.
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.880
I am sure it will maybe some of my friends are like, what are you talking about?
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:05.519
It's totally fine.
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:07.360
I think my friends have watched it.
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:08.079
Probably.
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:09.519
I'm sure your friends think it's fine.
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:10.960
Yeah.
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:15.679
I'm not saying I'm like outraged, I'm just saying I kind of was like, oh, oh.
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:16.559
Oh.
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:17.199
I don't know.
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:21.039
Like I said, I'm a maybe I'm prudier than I am getting prudish in my old age.
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:22.719
I think it's coming on.
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:24.559
I gotta keep you straight.
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:28.079
I think I dress whatever, I dress more provocatively than you do.
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.559
You do, but I don't dress that's not my style.
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:33.920
I don't dress provocatively.
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:36.880
I've never been that way though.
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:37.920
No.
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.480
Maybe in your year VS dating, you were dressing a little bit.
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.280
I was really, let me just be clear, wasn't.
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.760
Um but yeah.
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.480
Yeah, it's a good labor day.
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:55.599
Yeah, it's fine.
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:56.000
We'll do it.
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:57.519
It was a it was a lightish episode.
01:00:57.760 --> 01:00:58.400
It was a lightish episode.
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:01.280
Yeah, we'll we'll think of some things.
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:01.840
Whatever.
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:08.239
We're catching, we're getting our we gotta talk to some people on who we can have listened to this pod.
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.239
And give critical feedback.
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.519
Maybe move us in forward motion.
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:16.719
I have an idea.
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:17.360
I'll tell you off.
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:19.920
You told me I'm just waiting for you to do it.
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I'm not sure.
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She just had a baby, so she's a little bit busy.
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Oh I'll love that for her.
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But I will I will try and get on that.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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Alrighty.
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All right, enjoy the rest of your day.
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Enjoy your barbecue.
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Thanks.
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Are you barbecuing?
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Um, I think we will barbecue.
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We will put something on the grill, I believe.
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Great.
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I don't know what it is yet.
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I think Mark went to the store, so whatever he came home with.
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I'm sure plenty.
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Yeah.
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Fill up that fridge just the way I like it.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Love you.
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My husband is literally sending me Strava roots of what our run is gonna be right now.
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So wish me luck.
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Oh, good luck, honey.
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Go get them.
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Okay, love you.
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Enjoy, be careful.