The Hunter Biden Interview

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going crazy I love you guys let's get into this
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podcast with Hunter.
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Holy, I thought I wasn't doing political podcasts for a while.
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Don't do political then. Let's do, let's do. No, I
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got to do a little. Otherwise it's going to be like, yo,
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what are you doing? The politics. But it's like, we
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got to, but we'll get right into it, bro. Why
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did you decide to start doing podcasts? All right. So
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the reason that, that I decided to start to like
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speak for myself was that for seven years, everybody else
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got to tell my story and it was bull. But
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that was time ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm saying
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for since basically 2019, when it or let's start 2020
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for real, right before the election, when the quote unquote
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laptop dropped. OK, since then, I literally had to keep
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my mouth shut. I had to keep my mouth shut
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just by virtue of this is that then the Trump
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administration took the DOJ on me and put me under investigation.
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And anybody that's smart keeps their mouth shut during that
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period of time. And also, it wasn't my position to
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be out front and be even a further distraction and
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not be able to coordinate with the administration. I didn't
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work there. I didn't have any say in anything. So
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I kept my mouth shut. But what they did is,
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in the attempt to totally annihilate me and dehumanize me, for,
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by the way, none of it about me. They don't
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give a shit about me. It was all about power.
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It was all about to embarrass my father. and to
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embarrass the administration. It was to win political points, and
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it didn't have anything to do with me. But what
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they did is, is they conflated this idea that, you know,
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because I was so open about the fact that I
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was a crack addict, and then you could attach pictures
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to it, is that they conflated the idea that I
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was a continuing issue and a continuing, you know, like
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a one-man crime spree over the four years my dad
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was there. Long story short, that all ends. And... a
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little over a year ago, I decided to do one
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podcast because I really like him, Andrew Callahan. And I
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think he's really, really smart. And I think that he
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has his finger on the pulse of a whole different
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sector of people that people like me rarely talk to.
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And I did that, and I was really happy with it.
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And then I did Sean Ryan. And I did Sean
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Ryan for the same reason, because a whole different audience
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of people that were really skeptical about me. But I
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knew Sean to be somebody, because I listened to him,
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And he said horrible things about my dad. You know
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what I mean? He said things about me. But I
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listened to him, and I realized that he was a
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really good listener. And I did that, and it went
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really well. And for me, for the purposes of it.
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And what I got to talk about, more than anything,
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was about the consequences of addiction and the fact that
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50 million Americans on any given day suffer from addiction.
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In varying degrees, but suffer from addiction. And If there's
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one thing that I feel like I'm an expert on,
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it's recovery. I've been sober through all of that, clean
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and sober for over seven years now. And all I
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know is that if they built this platform for me,
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I was going to use it and talk to those
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people and talk. And by the way, it doesn't matter
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if you voted for Trump three times. It doesn't matter
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if you're MAGA. It doesn't matter if you're, I don't
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care who the you are, is that I can connect
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with you on that level because I don't know anybody that,
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doesn't have somebody in their life, if it's not them themselves,
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that has suffered from addiction and that has created the
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chaos inside of a family unit or inside of a
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close-knit friend group where you have been completely impacted by
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what addiction does to families and to individuals. And so
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I get to talk to those people. And for one
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reason is this, is that simply by me sitting in
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this chair, And talking about my recovery and my, you know,
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my ongoing pursuit of it and how it's always ongoing
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is that you're not alone. I get to tell my story.
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And that's one of the things that saved my life
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is the realization that I wasn't alone in it. You know,
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we're all connected by that pain in one way or another,
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whether it's trauma or addiction, you know, grief, all of that.
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You know, I always say to everybody, it's like, you know,
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I've had to live it out in public and people
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feel like, Oh man, you lost your brother. You lost
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your mom. You lost your sister. I don't know. Anybody
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hasn't lost a brother, a mom, a sister, you know,
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the dad that has cancer brother that is going through
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his own problems with, you know, uh, you know, fentanyl
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or whatever it may be. Everybody's connected by that. So
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that's why I've been talking. When did it, when did
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addiction start for you? Well, it's a really great question.
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And I think it's one of the, the, um, is
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one of the hardest ones for an addict to answer.
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I don't know if it's genetics. I think genetics play
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a role in it. I don't know if it, I
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do know also that there's a, that addiction gets fueled
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by this physiological connection that you could probably talk to more,
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in a more educated way than even I can. And
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I don't know whether it's just this kind of habit
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thing that you end up doing. I think it's a
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combination of all of those things. But what I do
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know this is that the first time I ever took
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a drink is that I felt whole for the first
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time in my life. I felt that all of those anxieties,
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all the angst, all the fear that dictated my life,
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like it dictates a lot of people's lives, not that
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I'm any different, but that seemed debilitating to me. As
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trivial as not being able to ask the girl to
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dance and as significant as feeling like a fraud or
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feeling alone in a crowd. And it solved those problems. And,
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you know, I always say, you know, the true answer
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for anybody that's an alcoholic and addict, I don't distinguish
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between the two, is, you know, why do you drink? Well,
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because it works. At first it works. At first it
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makes you feel almost transcended. At first it makes you
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feel like none of those problems exist.
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Yeah, well, the lowering the inhibitions is so you're like
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less pointed. You're just like, oh, it's okay. Yeah, until
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it doesn't, right? Until it becomes your prison. And for me,
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it became my prison. And You know, it was gradual.
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You know, I was really, really successful.
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You know what I mean? I went to Georgetown. I
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went after Georgetown. I did a thing called the Jesuit
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Volunteer Corps, like Domestic Peace Corps. And then I went
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to law school, graduated from Yale Law School, had a
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senior executive vice president of a major bank, started my
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own law firm, was on dozens of different boards, you know.
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I built a really successful career and a family. And,
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you know, three daughters that I adore and love me
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that are in their, you know, late 20s, early 30s.
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I have a grandson. You know, I built all that.
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And part of that time, I was, you know, I
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was still an alcoholic. The crack addiction didn't start until
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like around 2000, late 16, 17. How did you get
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introduced to that? It's just such a unique thing. Yeah.
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So like, dude, like no, I, I, I, I say
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it and I, and I, and I don't say it
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for hyperbole. I like this thing happened. It was too
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long to go into. Um, uh, and I was, I
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was struggling to say sober and, um, and I relapsed and, uh,
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and I wasn't getting my way about something. So I
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was like, okay. And I knew where to go. And I,
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and I, and I chose to do the single most
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dangerous thing. self-destructive thing I could. I knew someone that
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would sell me crack. And I went and I bought it.
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And I did it. And you know what? It did.
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I didn't have a problem in the world in that.
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And then I had every problem in the world. And
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then it's just, number one, chasing that. Chasing that high,
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which is insane. Insane. And at the same time, hiding
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from everyone. Yeah, like a double life. Any responsibility. And
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it just got worse and worse and worse and worse.
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And more like, I mean, like where ultimately at the
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end of the day, there was no functioning outside of
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either finding the drug, smoking the drug, recovering from smoking
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the drug. I mean, there was no, I mean, it
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was just a full-time job. And it was it was
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awful it was literally god awful i mean it gives
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me the chills the uh the the the people places
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and things uh that it um that that are incorporated
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in in that and i'd like every drug i don't
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know there's people listening to this right now no they
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know exactly what i'm talking about yeah yeah why don't
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you just go to the gym Yeah, man. That's exactly right.
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That's a better addiction. By the way. Then you get
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other problems where it's never good enough. No, I'm telling you,
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that's exactly right. Why don't you just go get your
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endorphins from the gym? And I tell that to people
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in recovery all the time, particularly in early recovery, is
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you got to find purpose. Not a purpose like with
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a big P, like you got to find God and
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you get like the purpose of your life, which has
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to transcend all things. I think that that's like a
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bridge too far for so many people, particularly in early recovery.
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You got to find purpose with a small P. Like
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for me at this time around, it became painting. Like
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that mental focus and physical activity that engages me when
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I'm painting is everything to me. But at the same time,
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it could be yoga. It could be lifting weights. It
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could be running marathons. It could be gardening. Whatever it is.
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Purpose in the day-to-day. Purpose in the day-to-day in which
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you're engaged in something. That that that takes you out
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of your your your your obsessive thinking about, you know,
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the past and the future. Yeah. And just allows you
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to focus on the moment. And and for by the way,
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you know, I stayed sober for seven years and between
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2003 and 2010. And a lot of it was that,
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you know, I became obsessive about the gym and I
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wish I was a little bit more. You may have
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to get me back on track. What was the timeline?
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Like with the whole laptop thing and you know, everyone's
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on the internet and they're like, I mean, I remember
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it was just like, you were in the news, like every,
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every channel every day.
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For like, it felt like months. Yeah.
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What was the timeline? Did it, was it like you
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were still doing crack and then you found out?
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No. So I got, I got clean and sober of
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June of 2019. And then the laptop didn't come out
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until October of 2020, like the middle of October of 2020.
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They held. And it wasn't a laptop. And when I
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say to people all the time, and they go, oh,
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you're admitting that it was a laptop. And I would, blah, blah, blah.
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Total bullshit. Just go on the internet right now and
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you can see there's like 62, and I don't know
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if terabytes from gigabytes, but it's seven terabytes of digital information.
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It's 20 years of my digital footprint, everything, every email,
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every photo, every photo that was deleted, every voicemail that
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I ever had, every text messages. It comes from multiple
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devices over multiple years. They hacked everything. They got into
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my iCloud. They got into every single corner of my
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digital life and they dumped it all on the internet.
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And what happened was, is that I was already clean
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and sober. But if you show a picture of someone
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in a motel room smoking crack, you know, with women every,
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you know, every other day in the New York Post,
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people conflate whether or not, and you don't get to
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go out and say, no, no, no, I'm clean and sober. Like, no,
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I saw you at the, you know, I saw you
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at the 4th of July celebration at the White House
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and you looked really sweaty. And, you know, like twitchy.
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I'm like, it's 106 degrees with 100% humidity and, you know,
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200 people on a balcony. What the f * *
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* are you talking about? But it doesn't matter. I'm
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not here to... Look, man, at the end of the day,
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it's the other thing. You've got to let go of
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other people's judgment about all of this. And the realization
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that the only thing that matters is the people that you... Yourself,
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number one. And the people that you love and that
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you want to respect you. That's all that matters. And
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so like this whole thing isn't a redemption tour. There's
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no such thing as outward redemption. There's only inward redemption.
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And for me, that's about doing the next right thing,
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you know? And that's what I've tried to do. And
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it's incredibly imperfectly, you know? I mean, but it begins
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with like, number one is like how I treat my wife.
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You know what I mean? How I treat the person
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that is most important to me, how I treat my,
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you know, my family. how I treat the people that
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I choose to interact with, like you. And that was
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part of it, too. That's why I talked to Tucker.
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That's why I talked to Candace Owens. That's why I
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talked to people, because I want to take things on
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face value here for myself and try to find a
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mutual understanding, at least something that we can agree on.
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Because I think everybody's just so quick to think, oh, man,
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you should be tried for treason because you believe X, Y,
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or Z, or you must be a complete and utter
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moron because you believe in this conspiracy theory, or you must... And, like,
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I don't know. That's not my experience in my life.
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It's not an experience in the wide array of opinions
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of my own family and my own friends. Like I
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say to everybody, I'd say at least, you know, way
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more than half of my friends throughout my entire, you know,
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young adult life were Republicans. Yeah. Real Republicans. But I
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love them.
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So I kind of want to get into that a
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little bit because we're talking about, I mean, you were
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technically used as like political sort of warfare as far.
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As right and wrong. Yeah. Obviously, you hold some viewpoints politically.
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I saw you on Tucker Carlson saying that you think
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one of the greatest threats to America is specifically Donald Trump.
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So my question to that is like, based on what
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you just said about the fact that, you know, obviously
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there's personal battles that people got to worry about.
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But don't you think that in saying things like that, whether,
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and I'm not disagreeing or agreeing, but in saying things
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like that, you're playing into the sort of narratives of
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left first, right?
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Yeah. Well, look, man, if I think politics matter, you
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know what I mean? I think everybody kind of says, Oh,
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the politician in politics. I said, well, if you don't
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care about politics, let me just tell you something. Politics
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cares about you. It did. Those people that we choose
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to elect and to pass laws and govern our lives
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are consequential to us. So get involved. And as it
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relates to Donald Trump is this, man, is that I
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don't think that he has any socially redeeming value. That
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doesn't mean I think that people that support him don't
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have any social redeeming. I fully, by the way, I
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fully get why people voted for Donald Trump. 100%. I
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think it's an incredibly rational decision on their part. And
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what they said is the system's broken. So we want
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somebody that's going to totally break it. We want somebody
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that we're not looking for somebody to come in there
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and like that he has the answer to all the problems.
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But we do know this is that he hates the
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people that we have identified as the problem. And hold,
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say whatever comes to his mind. And we like that, too.
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And and so I get it. And I think that
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he had an amazing opportunity to totally transform this country
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in a really positive way. And I objectively think that
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he has not taken that opportunity. I objectively think that
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he has pursued, because he believes it's his right, his
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own interests. It's about Donald Trump first. And let me
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give you an example. Yeah. Look, man. is that it's
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a great idea probably to build a ballroom. It is.
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It's true. It's that the White House could use a
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large event space connected to it. And it probably could
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use an underground bunker that is updated to beyond the
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Eisenhower-era standards of what could happen. That's probably all true.
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But you know what? It's not his house. He doesn't
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own it. And so there's an entire process to go
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through of which he could have chosen to go through.
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And it may have taken a little bit more time,
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but you know what? These things are necessary. And the
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reason that they're necessary is so that we're not, we
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don't ever in a situation where a president gets to
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act like a king. And instead he chose to make
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a statement that he can do whatever the he wants.
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So he, before anybody could do anything about it, brought
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in wrecking balls and literally tore down the East wing
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of the white house. Again, Like, Truman rebuilt the White House,
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but you know what he did? He went through the
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historical society. He moved over into the building across the street,
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and he completely redid the White House because it needed
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to be redone. Okay? But he went through the legal
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process to have it done. And what I'm saying with
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Trump is that that's all I'm asking for. Like, for instance,
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think about the Epstein files. All of the shit. I
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don't want to get into the Epstein files. Well, I'm gonna. Yeah, okay.
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But what the Man, what the fuck? And here's the
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other thing. Everybody come out to me. Well, your dad
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didn't release the Epstein files and he was up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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You know why? Because my dad didn't have anything to
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do with the Department of Justice. If you think that
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he had any control over the Department of Justice, then
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how do you reckon that I got convicted of six
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felonies and six different charges in two different courts, one
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in Delaware and one in Los Angeles, by his Justice Department?
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And had to spend millions of dollars to defend myself
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to end up only getting convicted. He didn't involve himself
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in that. And because, you know why? Because no president
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before him except Richard Nixon did. And Richard Nixon, when
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involved himself, ended up having to resign before he was
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going to get impeached. That's why.
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So he had to resign before he was going to
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get impeached because he was going to involve himself in
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the Epstein file?
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No, no, no. I'm talking Nixon. I'm saying Nixon is
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the only other person to have done that. To have
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done what specifically? And I'm saying Nixon is the only
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other person to try to reach in to control the
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Justice Department. To try to direct the Justice Department on
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his own behalf. To say, we're not going to release
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the Watergate tapes. And he went in, it was called
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the Friday Night Massacre, where he tried to fire Archibald
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Cox and the entire senior leadership of the Justice Department.
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And the three Republican senior U.S. senators came to the
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White House and said, Because he did it. He tried
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to do it. And they came over and said, it's
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time for you to resign or else we are all
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going to vote to impeach you. Right. And so that's
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the thing that I'm saying is that, look, I don't know.
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I don't know. All I know is that Donald Trump's
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name is mentioned in the Epstein files more times than
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any other individual name other than Jeffrey Epstein. And I reserve...
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a judgment about whether he knew this that or other
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thing or was culpable in any way but we deserve
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it we deserve to know the truth about that and
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you still they keep saying well they released three million
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files they didn't release another three million i.
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Believe yeah it was completely handled terribly i'm not disagreeing
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i think the point that i'm trying to get to
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though is that we and you yourself, and I think
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a lot of people who speak on podcasts or speak
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or political pundits or anyone who's doing anything work in
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this space, I fully believe whether it's like, I mean, CNN, anything,
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it's very clear that there is a goal to not
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really change or fix anything. And what I mean by
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that is this, whether it's Joe Biden, your father, or
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it's Donald Trump, You know, we tend to have these
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conversations about these people specifically.
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I don't think it's that simple at all. And so
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let me bring it back to COVID, right? You go
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to your point, but just so far, I 100% agree
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exactly with what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So that's what I'm saying.
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When we have these conversations about these individuals as like,
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you know, heads of state, obviously the president's very important role.
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There are.
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Layers far deeper than, that I'm much more interested in
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that have been active. And what I mean by that
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is the pharmaceutical industry, the military industrial complex, now this
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new AI stuff, right? There are layers that are much
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more that I would consider the real movers of what's
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actually happening in our country, right? Because those are the
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layers that are lobbying, paying the money, paying the politicians,
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say this, say that, move this in this direction, move
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this in that direction. And so when we have these
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conversations about like Donald Trump's ballroom, and in my opinion,
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those are all things for people to argue about. So
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no one ever goes to the source of the problem,
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which is something that has been existent under Biden, under
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every president, that no one ever really changes. And that
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people use left and right as a way to virtue
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signal their own beliefs in a direction that rallies an
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audience to go, I like that guy because he aligns
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with me on these things that are like outward. but
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there's a lot of things on the back that have
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been existent. Your father's term, everyone before him. And we've
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been marching in sort of like the same direction. And
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so I'm not at all trying to say like, you're
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wrong in what you're saying. Cause yeah, they're obviously like,
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we could talk all day about details that people are
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doing with their power.
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Yeah. But it's deeper than that. And so when people
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don't go there, I immediately, I go, okay, I don't
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believe this person. I will go there all day with you. Yeah. One,
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You're 100% right. The uniparty is the problem with D.C.,
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the problem with D.C., the problem with this country. Who's
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the uniparty? I think the uniparty is all of the
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people that you just named that have one thing in mind,
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and it's money. It is the way in which they
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use money to be able to control power. And 100%,
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whether it's the pharmaceutical industry, whether it's the social media industry,
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whether it's AI now, whether it's the military industrial complex,
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all of them, they run the world. They run this country. 100%.
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And it has only grown worse and harder and harder
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to try to stop it. And part of the reason
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is the way that the system has been set up.
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And the system is the way that it is, is
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because they've paid money to make certain that it is
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the way that it is. Let me give you an example, okay,
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of one thing that it's like, I can't imagine there's
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an American out there that would disagree with me on this, okay?
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Is that Facebook meta whistleblower came forward. I always forget
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her name and I wish I did because it was
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a really heroic thing that she did. She came forward,
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I think it was in 2023, and bought these thousands
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and thousands of pages of internal memos from meta. And
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which meta or Facebook, I think it was still Facebook
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at the time, did all of this internal research Because
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what they were seeing is this exponential increase in the
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suicide rate of girls between the ages of 13 and 17.
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were being admitted to hospitals for self-harm. And they wanted
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to see if there was a causal connection between their
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product and the algorithms that they were feeding these girls
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and those suicide rates. And the conclusion came back conclusively
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that yes, it was. And you know what they did
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about it? Nothing. Zero. And then she came and testified
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and showed them the documents. And you know what Congress
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did about it? Nothing. Zero. Nothing. Sorry. Oh, it says laptop. Sorry.
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I apologize. I hear what you're saying. Yeah. Nothing changed anything. Yeah, exactly.
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And so the, At the end of the day is
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that I can tell you that story over and over
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and over again. And every industry, because because D.C. is
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captured by that money, by those lobbyists, by the people
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with the money to be able to buy power. by
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the way in which our system has been created, by
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those people with money and power. And by the way,
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it's a recurring story all throughout our history, but it
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is at its nadir. It is at its height right now. Absolutely.
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And what I am saying is that the only reason
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that I bring Donald Trump's name even remotely into that
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is that there is a way that we can survive...
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Not for much longer, not with a $ 40 trillion debt.
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We aren't going to be able to maintain empire with
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$ 40 trillion in debt and pay more in interest on
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an annual basis than we do for our entire defense.
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It's just not ever going to happen. But the one
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thing that we always had was a constitutional republic, an
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adherence to a democracy in the rule of law. And
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I think that he is fundamentally flaunting that. I think
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that he is fundamentally challenging the idea that that the
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president has to act within the law, that he is
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not above the law. And you see that in every way,
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whether he takes a jet, tears down the East Wing,
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all little these little things, you know what I mean?
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Takes a jet from Qatar or, you know, or that.
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Jared Kushner, for instance, Jared Kushner is the senior advisor
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and liaison for the entire Middle East, Russia and Ukraine
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in deciding wars while he's being paid $ 100 million a
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year by the Saudi government, by the Saudi royal family
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directly into his pocket. How is that possible? How is
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that possible in the world in which they said that
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I was, you know, the leader of the Biden crime family?
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When my dad was president, I made an average of $ 225, 000
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a year and I painted, I sold paintings. that I
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worked my off to put into a gallery and sell
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and take 50% of the proceeds from. And every single
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person that bought a painting had to go and testify
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in front of Congress under oath that they bought the
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painting because they liked the painting. I mean, it's just ridiculous.
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And why are people like that? That is the qualitative
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difference between Donald Trump and any other president that's ever existed.
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Because I want to be able to fight for a
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moment when we still have a constitution that means something,
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In which like-minded people, because I think we're talking about
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an inflection point. If you and I can find middle
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ground on this, and I can find middle ground with
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Sean Ryan, and I can find middle ground with Candace,
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and I can find middle ground with somebody like Kassam Piker,
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and say, hey, what the f * * *, man? Like,
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we all need free health, not free health care, but
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we need universal health care so that when your kid
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gets sick, you don't have to worry about whether you're
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going to go to the doctor or be bankrupt. Like,
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f * * * like that. It's just common sense stuff.
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Seventy five percent of American people believe in that. Seventy
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five percent of American people think that the tax system
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as it is now is bullshit. I mean, think about that.
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This tax system that we have. I don't know how
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you get at it, but if you there's nine hundred
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and forty eight, nine hundred and forty eight billionaire families
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in this country. OK, which control? I don't know. What?
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is it 30 40 of the entire wealth of the
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country and you know how much they pay in income
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taxes collectively income taxes now not wealth tax income taxes
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zero and the reason that they do is because they're
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not breaking the law they're taking advantage of the system
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And where did the system come from? It came from
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their lobbyists who make certain that those loopholes and the
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way the system works benefits them, which, by the way,
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doesn't make them evil. It doesn't make them bad people.
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I think it does. To a degree. To a degree, yes.
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To a degree. But I'm trying to take some of
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the vitriol out of it and say, like, look, I
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think that some of the things that these people that
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I'm talking about, that I talk about all the time,
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like I know everybody wants me to hate Elon Musk
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for all the crazy shit that he does. This guy's
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a genius, man. He's a genius. And he could contribute
555
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so much, not just by giving away his money, but
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doing great things for society. But, man, is it like
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going in and doing what he did in Doge was
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so counterproductive, so counterproductive for so many of the good
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things that we have. And I just don't want to
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be controlled by 948 families. I want to be able
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to still have the chance to fight against that. And
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if you don't have a constitution left that's worth anything,
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we won't have the opportunity to fight against it. That's
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why I focus on Trump unlike anybody else. I say this,
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for instance, Thomas Massey, I don't agree with 95% of
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what Thomas Massey believes in in terms of policy. Literally 95%.
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He voted with Trump 95% of the time. If he
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ran for president today, I'd vote for him. I'd vote
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for him because I know that he's dedicated to the
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Constitution and to the rule of law. So this isn't
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about partisanship with me. This isn't about identifying one person
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and saying, oh, it's just him. If we just get
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rid of him, everything's going to be fixed. It's not
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like saying, oh, it's the billionaires. We've got to pick
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up our pitchforks and go. We've got to change the system,
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and that takes consensus, and that takes people coming together
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and realizing we're all getting screwed, man, all of us.
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Like the fires we were talking about before we started here. Yeah.
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We're all getting screwed. So you can go out and say, oh,
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it's Gavin Newsom, and he's a piece of shit. No,
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it was the mayor. No, somebody set the fire. No,
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it's climate change, and we all fight about it. Then
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nothing gets done. And you know who cleans up? The
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new developers that are coming in and making a gazillion
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dollars off of rebuilding the Palisades and wherever. Just like
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what's going to happen in Gaza. Just like what's going
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to happen in Gaza. And who's in charge of that?
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Jared Kushner. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, where they're going to make
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a Trump-themed golf course out of it.
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So the first thing I think about when I have
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these conversations is why, right?
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Because we said earlier about power. We said earlier about money.
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But it's at a point that it seems more existential.
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It seems like what is really those families, those people
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who are actually the ones who are moving the world around,
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What's their real intention? What is your opinion on that?
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That's great. Literally, nobody ever goes there when I talk
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about it. I think that they know something that they
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think that we don't know. That we're at a point
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in human history that everything's going to change. And that's AI.
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And I know that people go on and watch people
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stream and talk about the conspiracies. They're all building bunkers. Well,
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here's the thing, man. They all are building bunkers. They
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all are. And they are all in a race to
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secure as much of the humanly possible wealth that they
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can to fortify themselves with no thought in mind about
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the other 99.9999% of us. And I really mean that.
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And I think that they see a future that is...
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Beyond most people's comprehension. I sit there and I listen
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to some, like Mo, I forget his name, the former,
611
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I think, Google guy that's an AI guy. And he's
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a level-headed guy. And he talks about it. He's like, look,
613
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it's going to be good and it's going to be bad.
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There's going to be parts. I agree with people to say, like,
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we cannot have this catastrophic view about what AI. But
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I do know this. It is going to fundamentally change
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the world in which we interact with each other. If
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HDI is on the horizon within the next year, maybe
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it's here, and super intelligence is not far behind. I
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think we're headed towards Skynet. Well, it's either Skynet. I
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always say this. It's either Star Wars or it's Star Trek.
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You know what I mean? Everybody, a multiracial, multicultural, multi-planetary
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society that all gets on spaceships and explores the world
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for good. Because of all of the things that AI
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00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.469
allows us to be able to do and to be
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able to save the planet and cure cancer and, you know,
627
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educate our children in a way that we never thought possible.
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Free people from overtaxing labor and give them an ability
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to have time and a universal basic income and to
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be creative and do things like there's all this beautiful
631
00:35:01.139 --> 00:35:03.500
side of it, man. There's all the possibilities of you
632
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side or it's Skynet. And right now, it looks a
633
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lot more like Skynet just by virtue of, look at
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these guys. Look what they say. Look how they act.
635
00:35:16.619 --> 00:35:21.130
Look what they're doing. Who specifically? Oh, God. What's his name?
636
00:35:22.570 --> 00:35:27.190
At chat, GPT. Sam Altman. Yeah, Sam Altman. Have you
637
00:35:27.250 --> 00:35:30.030
ever watched Sam Altman be interviewed? Yeah. It's kind of scary, man.
638
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Kind of scary. There's a show on HBO called Pantheon.
639
00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:36.090
I think it's on HBO. Maybe it was Netflix. And
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00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.559
it's a, it's a, it's a high level, um, uh,
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like anime, um, cartoon, but it's a, but it's a
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real film and serious film. And he was asked in
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one interview I saw, and this is the reason I
644
00:35:48.550 --> 00:35:50.909
went to watch it is, um, he said, what is,
645
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what do you think, like what science fiction, um, uh,
646
00:35:54.630 --> 00:35:58.769
that's out there do you think most resembles what, um, uh,
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the future may look like? And he goes, Pantheon. And
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00:36:02.940 --> 00:36:08.659
you go watch Pantheon and it's, Absolutely. Incredibly frightening. I mean,
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it ends in a, you know, it ends in this,
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you know, cataclysmic battle between people who have uploaded their,
651
00:36:14.309 --> 00:36:17.610
you know, their avatars into the net and the people
652
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who decide to remain on earth and torn apart and like,
653
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you know, but that's the guy that, you know, with
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his hands virtually on the button. Yeah. On the pulse. Right. Yeah. So,
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so where do you think it's going to go? Here's
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the honest answer, and I don't know anybody that gives
657
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any other answer, is that I truly don't know other
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than this. We are about to live, I think, through
659
00:36:45.909 --> 00:36:49.550
a moment in time in the history of this planet
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in which the greatest evolutionary leap that has ever taken place,
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in which we go from human, which is the apex
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00:37:00.099 --> 00:37:03.929
of intelligence... on the planet, and all of our at
663
00:37:03.949 --> 00:37:09.019
least known intelligence in the universe to something that makes
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us look like we have the mind of, at best,
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an ant. What happens then? What happens?
666
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Well, I think what it seems like, it's sort of
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separating humanity from itself. We're going in a direction of.
668
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Less human. Yeah, and what does that mean? And then
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what happens to humans? Yeah, and what does that mean? Yeah.
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And what does that mean? I mean, like, in this
671
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show Pantheon, and I know it's science fiction, and it
672
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may sound silly, and people will go like, oh, what
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the fuck is he talking about? But what do we
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do when you can upload your consciousness into the cloud?
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What happens then? What does that mean? Are you human?
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00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.659
But it's not science fiction to believe that particularly with
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the advent of super intelligence, whether it's six months from
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now or 60 years from now.
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And I don't mean to interrupt, but I also believe
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already we've already started to do this with the iPhone.
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Yeah.
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This is already tracking movements, tracking spending habits, tracks everything.
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Everything in your life is tracked through here.
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This is both your bag of heroin, I say, and
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also your prison. So this sort.
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Of like gathering data and information has already started. Now
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it's like flock cameras and security, surveillance state, even to
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a crazier degree.
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So it's like, why?
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Is it just to control, just to have more power,
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to have more money? I think, and this is why
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I'm going back to it, is like, They already have
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it all. They already have enough. Now it could get
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more fine tuned and fine detailed.
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But for what?
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And that's why this starts to like, I don't know.
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I get on the internet, people arguing about.
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Religion and, you know, Jewish and Muslim and a Christianity.
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There's a whole, there's a whole host.
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Of things that I'm like, is this some sort of
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like religious consciousness attack?
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Like, or is this truly good versus evil? That's what
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I think it is. That's interesting. That's what Sean thinks. Ryan. Yeah.
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He's boiled down everything in his... Because there's nothing else
705
00:39:12.059 --> 00:39:15.019
that makes sense if you really think about it. Yeah.
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They have all of the control.
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They essentially put numbers on a screen and say they
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got a gazillion dollars at this point.
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It's like, that's what they're doing. So what do we
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do about it? That's the question. So one of the things,
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for instance, that I say, and this isn't some novel
712
00:39:32.139 --> 00:39:35.699
argument on my part, which is this, is that think
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about where all of the wealth is flowing right now,
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all of the capital, all of the money. It's into
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entities and individuals that have created companies that basically swallow
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all of ourselves. They take... They take my health data.
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They take my image. They take my movements. They take
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my sleep patterns. They take literally all of this data
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that I'm giving to them freely. Not just me, but
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my six-year-old when he watches Japanese cartoons on the equivalent
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of an iPad. Or from the moment that we were born,
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when they do the... prick you with the blood test
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and feed it into now a, which is captured digitally
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and put into a database and your DNA is sequenced.
725
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Is it everything that they use to make trillions of
726
00:40:34.750 --> 00:40:38.869
dollars is all ours. And that's what AI is. AI
727
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is the collection of the entirety of the creative output
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of human history. From the making of the wheel to
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the creation of fire to the first painting that was
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drawn on a cave, to the first poem that was
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ever written, and then all the way through to the
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last bit of code that a human will ever push
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a keyboard for. And all of that belongs to us.
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But somehow, somehow, we have ceded that to literally, what, five,
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six people? Five, six individuals that control these companies and said, yeah, Okay,
736
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you figure it out from here. We have given the
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power of, you know, of God to a handful of
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people without blinking an eye. And we need leadership right
739
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now to step in and not be thinking about what
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you're going to do with the goddamn reflecting pool and say,
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you know, because I heard somebody say this. The guy
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00:41:41.309 --> 00:41:43.530
said to him, well, weren't you worried about China? Don't
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you think that the United States and these companies should
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00:41:45.829 --> 00:41:48.059
be given free reign because we have to beat China?
745
00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:51.000
And he goes, you think I'm worried about China? Have
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you seen what Chet GBT? You seen what Claude is doing?
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Do you have any more faith in their leadership of us,
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of the globe, than some phantom in China? Now, I
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don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I'm not
750
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making a judgment about either one, but I don't trust
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any of them. And that's what our government was supposed
752
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to be for, is to protect us from powers that
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we could not protect ourselves from. I mean, literally, go
754
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all the way down to the Second Amendment. Sure, you
755
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can carry around a musket, but you know what? The
756
00:42:27.750 --> 00:42:32.260
government was in control of a well-regulated militia. And I'm
757
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.539
just extrapolating that analogy to, well, it should protect us
758
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against an out-of-control corporate class that has no interest in it.
759
00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:46.289
We are already there. How do we stop it? What
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do we do about it? How do we do it?
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First thing you've got to do is you've got to
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save the Constitution. You've got to save the rule of law.
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You've got to hold people accountable that have broken that
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trust in a way that no other president, no other
765
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administration has ever broken that trust. And you got to
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call them out for these things. And you got to
767
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do it by elections. And you can't do it by violence.
768
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And you can't do it, but you have to rally people.
769
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So you got to talk to people on the left.
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And you got to talk to people on the right.
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That's what I'm doing. You know, I mean, like, for instance,
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this whole cryptocurrency thing that I'm doing. I don't want
773
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anybody to buy my coin. I don't give a. But
774
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what I'm saying is I'm going to talk to a
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whole other audience of people and do it in a
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00:43:25.949 --> 00:43:28.539
way that's different than they did it. Because you know what?
777
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.610
I think that the crypto crowd swung the election to
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a certain degree last year. There's enough out there. There
779
00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:38.110
are enough people that have adopted cryptocurrency, whether it's Bitcoin
780
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or all the way down to meme coins, in which
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00:43:40.909 --> 00:43:43.610
they are fully conversant in it. It is a new
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democratized way to be able to move money, to not
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be a subject of a financial system that has locked
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people out of places in which they only allow the
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rarefied air of a few to be a part of.
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And so I want to go talk to them. I'm
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going to do that. I'm going to go talk to,
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you know, I'm going to talk to everybody I can.
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With the humility of knowing, you know, maybe it works
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for two people, maybe it doesn't. And at the same time,
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I get to sit here and I get to do
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it clean and sober and show somebody that's sitting there
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struggling whether or not they can stop drinking today that
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if that motherfucker could do it, maybe I can. That's it.
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Not going to lie, that was really good marketing. I'm
796
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not going to lie. I don't believe in any of that.
797
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I think it's all a scam. By the way, it
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can be all a scam. It has always been all
799
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a scam. And that's the other thing. No. And I
800
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really mean this. It doesn't have to be that way.
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I created a coin in which I've given away 20%.
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Just today, literally, my subscribers on Substack, without knowing that
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I was going to give it to them, I just
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made millions of dollars for it. I don't make a
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00:44:52.949 --> 00:44:56.320
goddamn dime on this for six months. And then after
806
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six months, I'm vested for two years. And so the
807
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whole idea is of all of these things is to
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be able to create the freedom of you being able
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to to basically vote for an idea. And that's all
810
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it is. It's sustaining, maintaining and attaining, sustaining, maintaining attention
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in order to be able to do that. And here's
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the other thing is that I'm a capitalist, man. Like you,
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like all these people out there like, oh, you know,
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you do this, that and the other thing. And like you.
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You know, like, yeah. I mean, like, what? Because you
816
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think that I'm a Democrat? I don't, you know, want to, like,
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feed my family? You don't think I want to pay
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my debts? You don't think that I want to go
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out and, you know, be able to have the freedom
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to do the things that I want to do? Yeah.
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And I truly believe in it. I read this book
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called The Internet of Money. And this guy makes this
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incredible argument. This is years ago. And, you know, a
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Bitcoin guy, okay? And he makes the point that Digital
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currency for the first time in the blockchain allow for
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people to do these microtransactions that are across borders, around
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the globe, and to be in a system in which
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they have been locked out of the vast majority of
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human existence, in which they get to control how their
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money moves and to whom, without any government oversight and
831
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without anyone getting in the way. And then everybody says, oh,
832
00:46:23.619 --> 00:46:26.300
it's just all for criminals and bulls. Well, tell me this, man.
833
00:46:26.739 --> 00:46:29.809
Who's been... laundering the money of terrorists for the past
834
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50 years. It hasn't been cryptocurrency. You know who it is?
835
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It's Deutsche Bank and it's JP Morgan, it's Citibank. And
836
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we know it. You know why? Because every three or
837
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four years, they pay like a $ 62 billion fine for
838
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laundering money for Hamas or whatever terrorist organization. I mean,
839
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it's such a bunch of bullshit. But you know what
840
00:46:50.530 --> 00:46:55.159
it does lock out? It locks out the millions of
841
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immigrants that live here legally and want to send money
842
00:46:58.179 --> 00:47:01.519
back to their family in Mexico. And you know what
843
00:47:01.539 --> 00:47:04.699
they got to do? They can't get a bank to
844
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do it because they can't afford the SWIFT fees and
845
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they can't get a bank account because they don't have this, that,
846
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or the other thing. And their family in Mexico doesn't
847
00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:12.360
have one either. So they got to go to Western
848
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Union and pay 15% to be able to spend their
849
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money so that another corporation can put money of hardworking
850
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people that are putting a roof on your house. And instead,
851
00:47:23.380 --> 00:47:29.019
you know what? You use a cryptocurrency at a. 0005
852
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cent charge, you can move money to whoever you want,
853
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to your family, back anywhere. That's what I believe in.
854
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When I worked at the UN World Food Program, what
855
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we tried to do is that when refugees would come in,
856
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for instance, I was in Syria at the border in Lebanon,
857
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and we were creating a refugee camp there. And I
858
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was chairman of the board, and what we were doing,
859
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we were crushing the local economy. Because you bring in
860
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all of these refugees, and the host nation, Lebanon, was
861
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nice enough to allow them to come in. And then
862
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the World Food Program would come in, and they would
863
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dump all of this free food because the refugees needed it.
864
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And what that would do, it would totally, completely ruin
865
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the local economy, is that their foodstuffs would have no
866
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value because you could go get free food at the
867
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refugee camp. And so what we did is we gave
868
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them digital wallets, all controlled by the blockchain, every individual thing.
869
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And so that they could go in and we could
870
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create refugee camps in which you could enhance the local economy.
871
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And then we spread that out to be able to
872
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have subsistence farmers in sub-Saharan Africa or in the oldest,
873
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in Dadaab, the five generations of refugees on the border
874
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of Kenya and Ethiopia, in which people, all who have phones,
875
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everybody has these phones, would be able to transact digitally.
876
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outside of the banking system. And so that's where my
877
00:48:55.309 --> 00:48:57.710
belief in it came from. And what I realized is
878
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that as Democrats, like you said, you know what? Oh,
879
00:49:00.190 --> 00:49:03.300
they're for it? Well, we're against it. We're against it.
880
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It's all a scam. They're all a bunch of, you know. Well, bullshit.
881
00:49:07.769 --> 00:49:12.070
I promise you it's the future. I hear it. I promise.
882
00:49:12.150 --> 00:49:15.050
The horse is out of the barn. And a lot
883
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of things like this. And I just think, anyway, I'm
884
00:49:18.530 --> 00:49:20.650
not here to convince you of anything. Yeah. certainly, I
885
00:49:20.769 --> 00:49:23.929
want to say this. This whole venture that I'm doing,
886
00:49:24.690 --> 00:49:29.110
it has zero utility. It's not worth anything except what
887
00:49:29.230 --> 00:49:31.929
you decide that it's worth. Don't buy the coin if
888
00:49:31.989 --> 00:49:36.139
you can't afford it to lose your money. But if
889
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.159
you want to, it's a vote for an idea. It's
890
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not a investment period sounds like a gambling ad but
891
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but yeah but so let me yeah so but i'm
892
00:49:46.820 --> 00:49:49.550
being serious about it i hear it yeah my my
893
00:49:49.769 --> 00:49:52.889
uh maybe it's a little bit cynical view maybe a
894
00:49:52.949 --> 00:49:57.730
little nihilistic everything you just said we could sit here
895
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and say, oh, that sounds good. That sounds good.
896
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And I'm not trying to like say, go against what
897
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you're doing at all. I think of everything else that
898
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we've mentioned earlier, AI, pharmaceutical industry, military.
899
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Every person who also was.
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Ahead of that company or those movements or those complexes,
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industrial complexes, all this money. I believe at one point,
902
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and I'm not saying you're like this, but at one
903
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point in sort of the inception of those things, they
904
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had the same well, this will be good.
905
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Because we'll be able to defend ourselves.
906
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So this will be good because we'll be able to
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create no cures, obviously, because we know pharmaceutical industry sucks
908
00:50:33.579 --> 00:50:36.489
and they've just given people drugs forever and caused many
909
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pandemics of overdoses.
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But I digress. The point is they all started at
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one point being like, this is also going to be
912
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good for people. And it's not at all. Okay. So
913
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perfect example from the recovery and addiction. Fentanyl served a purpose.
914
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The pharmaceutical companies created fentanyl or oxycodone, for that matter, OxyContin.
915
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.320
You know what? It was a new, incredibly powerful pain
916
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.420
drug for people with intractable pain that had no other
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option other than to seek relief. And then what did
918
00:51:14.739 --> 00:51:17.690
the Purdue family do with OxyContin? Well, they figured out
919
00:51:18.170 --> 00:51:21.619
that it was incredibly, incredibly addictive. And so instead of
920
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restricting the distribution of it and giving warnings to doctors
921
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that this is incredibly addictive and only give it to
922
00:51:29.489 --> 00:51:32.809
patients that are literally on their deathbed or that have
923
00:51:33.010 --> 00:51:38.489
no hope of any recovery from their pain. Instead, what
924
00:51:38.510 --> 00:51:40.929
they did is they went to doctors and they created
925
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a marketing plan that told them that this is unlike
926
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any other pain medication. It's not addictive. The 12-hour release
927
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pill makes certain that the recurring physiological effect of addiction
928
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will not take place. And you can prescribe it for
929
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simple back pain. So if you've got somebody that's been
930
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riding on the tractor about here in rural Kentucky that
931
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has just had this aching back pain, and he goes
932
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in for his checkup at the doctor, he said, we'll
933
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incentivize you to write a prescription of OxyContin. Give him 100.
934
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And the next time they came in, Give them more.
935
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If they need to up their dose, then you know what?
936
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That's just how it works. And then what they did
937
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is they said, oh, and by the way, what we're
938
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going to do is we're going to set up trailers
939
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in the rural south, literally mobile homes, and get a
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doctor with a prescription pad and just let people line up.
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You come in, you have an earache, we'll write you OxyContin.
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You come in, you stubbed your toe, we'll write you OxyContin.
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They flooded the market. And you know the places that
944
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.860
they target it? They target it. literally, they laid a
945
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.940
map over the United States and everywhere where there was
946
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.619
a robust heroin trade, they didn't touch. Everywhere that did
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00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:56.400
not have, that heroin hadn't penetrated, they went to. And
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they took over the entire market until they ate up
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the entire heroin trade in urban markets. So it matters
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00:53:04.610 --> 00:53:07.690
who is in control of not just an idea, but
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a product. I don't, like I said, you're right. It's
952
00:53:12.579 --> 00:53:18.090
all about Who holds the hammer? It's all about it's
953
00:53:18.449 --> 00:53:21.389
all a tool. Cryptocurrency is a tool. You can build
954
00:53:21.429 --> 00:53:25.360
things or you can break it. Pharmaceuticals, you can make
955
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:28.860
people better or you can kill them and and not
956
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.320
just kill them. You can like I mean, it's talk
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00:53:32.340 --> 00:53:35.199
about a I mean, I don't want to use the
958
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word genocide because it's so loaded. But Jesus Christ, you
959
00:53:38.550 --> 00:53:40.980
know what I mean? 50 million Americans are addicted today.
960
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.280
You know, we still have an absolute pandemic as it
961
00:53:44.300 --> 00:53:48.380
relates to overdose deaths as related to fentanyl. And they're
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00:53:48.590 --> 00:53:53.150
all culpable because they're all, they retreat behind this idea
963
00:53:53.630 --> 00:53:56.869
that they are beholden to their shareholders. They only have
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00:53:56.989 --> 00:54:00.070
one fiduciary responsibility and that's to increase the stock price.
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But man, we've fought through tougher things as a country.
966
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We really have. I mean, during the turn of the
967
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.760
century in the 1900s, is that you had the greatest
968
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.980
concentration of wealth of any other time in history, other
969
00:54:14.019 --> 00:54:17.260
than what we're going through right now. And Teddy Roosevelt
970
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.340
got elected and he was a part of that class.
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00:54:19.539 --> 00:54:22.920
He was the, he was the patrician class. He came
972
00:54:22.980 --> 00:54:25.300
before all of this new money, you know, like the
973
00:54:25.340 --> 00:54:28.820
Rockefellers and stuff like that. And he became president and
974
00:54:28.860 --> 00:54:31.139
he became what they called, they called him a class
975
00:54:31.179 --> 00:54:33.980
traitor because he went up and he stood up to
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00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:39.199
JD Rockefeller, who was our Elon Musk and, um, and, uh,
977
00:54:39.619 --> 00:54:45.050
and Bezos and Zuckerberg combined, okay? Controlled 60% of the
978
00:54:45.090 --> 00:54:49.550
entire global oil market. And every single gas station that
979
00:54:49.570 --> 00:54:51.329
you know of today used to be part of Standard
980
00:54:51.389 --> 00:54:54.280
Oil until they broke it up. And Teddy Roosevelt came
981
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.300
in and he said, look, man, nobody's asking for a
982
00:54:57.340 --> 00:55:00.239
handout in this country. They're just asking for a square deal.
983
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:02.880
And he started the square deal movement and he broke
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00:55:02.940 --> 00:55:05.909
up all the trusts and he made certain that you
985
00:55:06.170 --> 00:55:08.690
could not have these monopolies. And the monopolies didn't just
986
00:55:08.750 --> 00:55:14.449
exist in the oil industry. That same conglomerate also controlled
987
00:55:14.889 --> 00:55:17.610
all of our transportation, all of the rail industry, all
988
00:55:17.630 --> 00:55:20.019
of the shipping. And so he broke them all up.
989
00:55:20.690 --> 00:55:26.710
So he created competition. And the economy not only survived,
990
00:55:26.730 --> 00:55:28.489
but it roared back after they said, oh, you're just
991
00:55:28.510 --> 00:55:32.079
going to ruin everything. And then FDR had to come
992
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.079
in in 1939 after the crash of 29. And he
993
00:55:35.139 --> 00:55:39.519
came in and FDR just absolutely said, you know what?
994
00:55:39.940 --> 00:55:41.679
We don't just need a square deal. We need a
995
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.059
fair deal. And he came in and he said, we'll
996
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.440
never let it happen again. That people in their 60s
997
00:55:47.460 --> 00:55:50.550
when they retire after working their entire lives will become
998
00:55:50.590 --> 00:55:53.190
destitute and become a burden to the rest of us
999
00:55:53.250 --> 00:55:55.650
and to the entirety of society. So we created the
1000
00:55:55.690 --> 00:56:00.150
Social Security benefit for everybody. And then we created things
1001
00:56:00.230 --> 00:56:04.030
like Medicare and Medicaid. And we created, that literally saved
1002
00:56:04.050 --> 00:56:05.869
people's lives. It made it so that we weren't in
1003
00:56:05.909 --> 00:56:10.730
a completely two-tiered system. And now we have spent 40
1004
00:56:10.730 --> 00:56:14.489
years since the early 80s of dismantling that structure. I
1005
00:56:14.530 --> 00:56:16.210
think that we can build it again. We need a
1006
00:56:16.289 --> 00:56:20.369
new New Deal. We need a new New Deal. And
1007
00:56:20.409 --> 00:56:22.389
that's what I'm saying. And I don't think it's Republican.
1008
00:56:22.530 --> 00:56:24.929
I don't think it's Democrat. I don't think it's, and
1009
00:56:25.030 --> 00:56:26.929
I'm not saying that you have to have a third party.
1010
00:56:27.050 --> 00:56:30.550
You just have to have, like, conversations like this. Do
1011
00:56:30.590 --> 00:56:33.030
you think conversations like this actually change things or just
1012
00:56:33.070 --> 00:56:35.199
the powers? I sure hope so, man, because I'm sitting
1013
00:56:35.219 --> 00:56:37.000
here spending a lot of time doing it. And I
1014
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:39.280
think that what you do, like having the conversations I
1015
00:56:39.300 --> 00:56:42.300
think are important. Like all this talk, nobody listens to
1016
00:56:42.340 --> 00:56:45.900
CNN anymore. Nobody, you know, anybody that's fucking that CNN,
1017
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.940
you know, anybody that has MS now on or even
1018
00:56:49.300 --> 00:56:51.619
Fox news. If you're not, if you're watching Fox news
1019
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:54.679
and you're under the age of 62, like, I don't like,
1020
00:56:54.780 --> 00:56:57.550
I don't know what you're doing. Like, Nobody is. They're
1021
00:56:57.590 --> 00:57:00.489
listening to you, and you may think it's a silo,
1022
00:57:00.570 --> 00:57:04.119
but it's a crossover. You're millions of regular listeners. You
1023
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:05.840
know what? They listen to you, and they come to
1024
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.500
you to talk about interesting conversations with people with things
1025
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:10.760
that they care about, particularly as it relates to health,
1026
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.070
but also as it relates to culture. And they pick
1027
00:57:13.130 --> 00:57:15.150
up a thing here, and then they hear a buzz
1028
00:57:15.210 --> 00:57:17.250
over here. And then you go over and watch Sean
1029
00:57:17.309 --> 00:57:21.739
Ryan's thing. You know what? Sean Ryan, because he loves
1030
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his guns. You know what I mean? This is where
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do I have the right stuff in my food? Just
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and I'll heat it up like in a pan. That's
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kind of how I traditionally cook everything i'm really not
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to this podcast see because now there's a new new
1071
00:58:51.090 --> 00:58:53.960
age of media yeah right you consider i consider me
1072
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.420
that you know a lot of other people that um
1073
00:58:57.809 --> 00:59:01.719
But that's not to say that the powers that be
1074
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.739
that control that are really behind everything are not aware
1075
00:59:04.780 --> 00:59:05.039
of that.
1076
00:59:05.099 --> 00:59:09.289
Right. So where I'm going with this is how many
1077
00:59:09.309 --> 00:59:09.829
of these new.
1078
00:59:10.300 --> 00:59:14.539
Political pundits or speakers who speak directly in politics do
1079
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:19.599
you think are involved some way with those same powers
1080
00:59:21.019 --> 00:59:22.400
like who do you think is a fed.
1081
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.530
Yeah That's a great question. There is zero chance, literally
1082
00:59:27.590 --> 00:59:31.110
zero chance, that every single one of them are just
1083
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.800
people who believe in specific causes. Zero chance. So I
1084
00:59:35.820 --> 00:59:38.420
don't know this whole thing. You know that guy Kiriakou,
1085
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.579
John Kiriakou? Yes. Yeah. I listen to him all the time.
1086
00:59:41.989 --> 00:59:44.289
And he hates my dad. I think he doesn't like
1087
00:59:44.329 --> 00:59:46.969
me either. But I don't know. But I like him.
1088
00:59:47.369 --> 00:59:50.699
Because he says some really sensible stuff. And he has
1089
00:59:50.739 --> 00:59:53.960
a view into our government in a way that I
1090
00:59:54.219 --> 00:59:59.760
never had. You know what I mean? Even the proximity
1091
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.679
that I had to the power as being my dad,
1092
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.869
I don't know anything about it. You've got to know some. No, no,
1093
01:00:04.889 --> 01:00:07.510
I really mean it. You've got to know some. I
1094
01:00:07.550 --> 01:00:11.969
believe them, though. I take them at their word. One
1095
01:00:11.989 --> 01:00:15.010
of the things I do know is this, is that
1096
01:00:15.590 --> 01:00:18.849
the capacity for the United States government to surveil you
1097
01:00:19.650 --> 01:00:22.789
To surveil anyone on the face of the globe is
1098
01:00:23.050 --> 01:00:26.780
beyond anything that you can possibly imagine. Literally anything you
1099
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.000
can possibly imagine. You know, I see people like, oh,
1100
01:00:29.019 --> 01:00:30.280
you've got to turn off your phone if you want
1101
01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:32.440
to do something. It doesn't matter if you turn off
1102
01:00:32.460 --> 01:00:35.039
your phone. They can listen to you through that TV
1103
01:00:35.059 --> 01:00:36.969
screen right now if they wanted to. Not only can
1104
01:00:36.989 --> 01:00:38.809
they do that, they can track your car anywhere in
1105
01:00:38.829 --> 01:00:40.409
the world as long as it has a computer chip
1106
01:00:40.469 --> 01:00:46.690
on board. They have you. It's like... we're well beyond
1107
01:00:46.750 --> 01:00:50.949
this idea that, you know, that there, that there's, you know,
1108
01:00:50.969 --> 01:00:53.010
the great eye in the sky. I mean, it's Sauron,
1109
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:55.119
you know what I mean? Like, it's like there, there
1110
01:00:55.260 --> 01:01:01.699
is a, so to that degree, how does that in,
1111
01:01:01.900 --> 01:01:06.429
in fact have, has it infiltrated new media? I don't know.
1112
01:01:07.090 --> 01:01:09.449
I don't know. I mean, I really don't. I mean,
1113
01:01:09.469 --> 01:01:13.389
I guess you could like, think i like but i
1114
01:01:13.409 --> 01:01:16.269
don't know anybody that i talked to that i think
1115
01:01:16.349 --> 01:01:18.769
is like a um you know a psyop i don't
1116
01:01:18.789 --> 01:01:21.309
know but i really don't know i mean think about
1117
01:01:21.349 --> 01:01:22.909
it well who do you you would know much better
1118
01:01:22.949 --> 01:01:25.869
than i i mean really because you're much more a
1119
01:01:25.889 --> 01:01:27.090
student of it right who.
1120
01:01:27.010 --> 01:01:29.969
Do you think yeah it's interesting well who are the
1121
01:01:30.010 --> 01:01:32.829
most popular ones candace tucker.
1122
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.199
Candace tucker sean's always up there um hassan's been in
1123
01:01:38.219 --> 01:01:43.119
the news a lot lately yeah hassan yeah Nick Fuentes. Yeah,
1124
01:01:43.139 --> 01:01:45.119
but Nick doesn't really have nearly as big a crowd
1125
01:01:45.139 --> 01:01:47.679
as everybody. He just has great clippers. Are you a
1126
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:51.500
Nick Fuentes fan? No. I talked to Nick. I saw.
1127
01:01:52.139 --> 01:01:54.159
You know, I mean, look, I talked to him because
1128
01:01:54.179 --> 01:01:55.539
I want to be able to say to him that
1129
01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:59.889
it's bullshit, the things that he says, particularly about African-Americans
1130
01:02:00.389 --> 01:02:05.389
and particularly about Jews and particularly about the Holocaust. He's like, oh, no,
1131
01:02:05.429 --> 01:02:07.730
I'm just edgelording and things like that. And then he
1132
01:02:07.769 --> 01:02:09.210
goes back out and he kind of says them all
1133
01:02:09.269 --> 01:02:11.829
over again. But my point is that I get to
1134
01:02:11.869 --> 01:02:14.530
hear it from the horse's mouth, man. And I got
1135
01:02:14.570 --> 01:02:16.260
to hear it from somebody and be able to say
1136
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.119
my piece to them and to be able to sit
1137
01:02:19.139 --> 01:02:23.579
down with them and show that the whole somebody's bright
1138
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:27.840
idea of promoting that discussion was they get into a
1139
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.880
physical fist fight. I mean, Nick's like this big. You
1140
01:02:31.900 --> 01:02:34.469
know what I mean? It would be like you fighting me.
1141
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:36.670
You know what I mean? It wouldn't be a match.
1142
01:02:37.340 --> 01:02:39.659
Are you saying you smoked Nick Fuentes in a fight?
1143
01:02:40.099 --> 01:02:44.900
He's a little guy. By the way, Nick would admit that.
1144
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:47.519
He's not a fighter. I promise you. Physically, he's not
1145
01:02:47.539 --> 01:02:50.639
a fighter. No, I've had him on twice. He would
1146
01:02:50.659 --> 01:02:53.900
agree with that, right? I think so. I don't think
1147
01:02:53.940 --> 01:02:57.019
he has the ego about that kind of shit. He
1148
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.300
has an ego about other shit, but not that. Might
1149
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.030
hit you with a mean elbow. But I got to
1150
01:03:01.050 --> 01:03:03.150
have a discussion with him, man. You know what I mean?
1151
01:03:03.409 --> 01:03:09.780
I lost some friends. In having that discussion? What? Yeah. Why?
1152
01:03:10.820 --> 01:03:13.599
Because I sat down with the Holocaust denier. And he
1153
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:18.170
said that, you know, that he's reversed his opinion about that. But,
1154
01:03:18.190 --> 01:03:20.309
you know, he said some really difficult things. In what way?
1155
01:03:21.230 --> 01:03:24.110
He's not a Holocaust denier. He believes that the Holocaust happened.
1156
01:03:24.510 --> 01:03:26.829
I think he just sort of, like, refuting the numbers
1157
01:03:26.869 --> 01:03:29.750
or whatever, the whole thing. Which is as offensive as
1158
01:03:29.789 --> 01:03:32.719
being good. Like, there's, you know. Look, man. I'm trying
1159
01:03:32.739 --> 01:03:34.679
to make the point to Nick, particularly as it relates
1160
01:03:34.699 --> 01:03:36.440
to that. And I don't want to get into this quagmire.
1161
01:03:36.940 --> 01:03:40.559
is that, let me tell you something. Two things can
1162
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:43.559
be true at once. What's happening in Palestine right now
1163
01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:49.050
is genocide. I believe that. I believe that what Bibi
1164
01:03:49.090 --> 01:03:54.949
Netanyahu and the Likud government specifically are doing is evil.
1165
01:03:56.190 --> 01:03:57.690
And I think that they planned it. And I think
1166
01:03:57.710 --> 01:04:00.929
that the fact of the matter is that the bombshell
1167
01:04:00.969 --> 01:04:03.949
report that just came out yesterday is that what I
1168
01:04:03.989 --> 01:04:06.369
think people in the know have known all along is
1169
01:04:06.429 --> 01:04:10.250
that Netanyahu knew about the October 7th attacks before they happened.
1170
01:04:11.369 --> 01:04:13.550
And he used it as an excuse to do what
1171
01:04:13.570 --> 01:04:18.469
he always wanted to do, which was obliterate Gaza. And
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every man, woman, and child that got in his way
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of doing it. And now we're in a great war
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in the Middle East and the streets are mostly closed. And,
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you know, we've basically expended all of our offensive weapons on,
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you know, bombing, you know, Iran to no end. Okay.
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Which we've also been in the Middle East for 40 years,
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kind of doing the same thing in different territories.
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And this here and there and that and the other thing.
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Why?
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Yeah. We'll get back to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay.
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But I do believe this. Okay. You have to be
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able to. I don't want to hear another person say
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the Jews. Because I tell you this, man, the history
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of the Jewish people is something that I was raised
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to honor. It's the only group of people in human history, okay,
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the only group of people that collectively throughout written history
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have refused to bow to empire. They have separated themselves
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because of their beliefs, because of their adherence to the
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scripture that they hold to be true. and refused to
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bend to Pharaoh, and they refused to bend to Caesar,
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and they refused to bend to the Third Reich and
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assimilate into them, okay? And because of that, because of
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that history of incredibly brave independence, all right, they have
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been persecuted throughout time, unlike any other singular group. Other groups,
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in worse ways, in greater genocides, in more numbers, and,
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you know, More people died under Stalin. Like all of
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those things you can say have happened. Like the Bolshevik thing.
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Like the Bolshevik thing. All of those things are true.
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But over the course of the last 2,500 years, you
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can singularly point to the beautiful, and that's a beautiful
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thing to say about the spirit of the Jewish people,
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is this idea that there is no other king to
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bow to than God. Okay? But the thing about the
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Jewish people that I also learned was this, is they
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also stood up to their own dictators. So when Solomon
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was building temples with one hand and statues to Malachi
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with the other, is that you had people like, I
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01:06:31.690 --> 01:06:34.739
forget what it was, like Nathan step in and say, like,
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you are a false prophet, and to rebel against it. When,
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you know, I mean, Ahab and Jezebel, like, you know,
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I mean, the Jewish people, they were, slaughtered them, their
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own leaders, they stood up to them. And that is
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the history of the Jewish people too. And I pray
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that the Jewish people, those that are in Israel and
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outside of it, will stand up to Netanyahu. And that's
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my position. And I don't think that there's room in
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Nick's world for that subtlety, for that nuanced of an
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argument about it. I don't think that there's enough room
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in Hassan Piker's world for there to be enough argument.
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And I don't know whether there's the attention span of
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everyone that I just lost.
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So would you consider yourself a Zionist?
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No, not in the way that you would say that
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I was a Zionist. But I do believe this. In
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what way is that? That the current Israeli government has
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a right to complete and unilateral control of the land
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that is known between, you know, You know, that currently
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is referred to as Israel. Yeah. I believe that there
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is a world, I have to believe it, otherwise it
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never gets solved, in which there is a, that both
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Jews and Palestinians, Muslim Palestinians can coexist in a, under
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a government that not just shares power, but it is
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one person, one vote. and is it true democracy? Why
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do they always.
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Say they're a democracy when they have two different versions
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of citizenships and they have two different laws?
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I'm curious. Do you know why?
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Why would they say they're the only democracy in the
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Middle East when they have two versions of legal?
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Yeah. Well, I guess the same reason why we called
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ourselves the only democracy in the Western Hemisphere for decades
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hundreds of, you know, a hundred years where we didn't allow, um,
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you know, uh, blacks or women to vote. You know
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what I mean?
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Like people see, we do that now though. They, they
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still don't do that.
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No, I know we do that now, but I'm saying
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the same for the same reasons is they want to
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be able to see the best in themselves and to
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think that they are, um, uh, but yeah, Look, man,
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these are the kind of things that you're absolutely right.
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And I think that there's a real discussion here. But
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just understand this. When you conflate that with true anti-Semitism
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or even running up against it, it turns people that
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agree with you I know so many of my friends
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that are Jewish that can't stand what Netanyahu's doing. They
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call what's happening a Jewish genocide. They believe that this
1259
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government in Israel has made them and their families here
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in the United States or wherever else in the world
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as a Jew less safe. And they want to agree
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with you, but then... They hear, like, Nick Fuentes say,
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you know, blah, you know, like... Or some other boogeyman
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come out and, like, conflate... Well, here's the thing that's frustrating,
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and it goes directly... And how do we get into
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01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.239
this discussion? Well, I got to talk about it. I
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got to talk about it. This is something that's frustrating, right? Yeah.
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The powers that be also want this to be a conflation. Meaning...
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If you go anywhere in the news, the mainstream. You're
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so right. Anytime I say or if anyone says Hassan whoever,
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they go. Anti-Semite. Yeah. What this is doing, what they're
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doing there is wrong. Everyone goes, you just don't like Jews. Yeah.
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And it's conflated in the bots on Twitter. It's conflated
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in every single politician or politicians.
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Ted Cruz, all these people like Randy Fine, whoever. Laura Loomer,
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whoever these people are.
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Who are political pundits speaking in direction for pro-Israel causes.
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Uh-huh.
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The second someone says anything that is against that cause,
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all of a sudden you don't like Jews.
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Yeah. Yeah. Don't you find that interesting? I not only
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find it interesting, I find it infuriating and frustrating because
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it does a disservice to the entire idea of a
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real anti-Semitism that exists in the world. And if everything's anti-Semitism,
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then nothing's anti-Semitism. It's literally, it makes it a meaningless
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fucking thing. I totally agree with you.
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But doesn't that feel like it's a consorted effort to
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make that an actual problem?
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Yeah. For what? For the purpose of conflating it so
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that you get to be able to do things like
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kill 23,000 children without any recourse in Gaza. That's why.
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And then you stand up to it and you say,
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this is bullshit. I don't care who you are. Is
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it starving people, not letting the World Food Program go
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into Gaza for the first, you know, however many days
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of the war was not just inhumane. It was literally evil.
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Is it ignoring the plans that you had on your
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desk of what was going to happen on October 7th
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and not sending IDF troops to protect that border for
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10 hours? of doing what Netanyahu did at the end
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of my dad's term. My dad had a deal for
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the hostages over and over and over again, and they
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were literally at the 12th hour to get hostages home,
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and Netanyahu would kill the deal because he wanted to
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save it until after the election. So he kept his
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own people in bondage inside Gaza that could have been
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tortured or died from their own bombs that they were
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dropping just to serve his own political purposes. If there
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was no war... Netanyahu, just be assured, if there was
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no war, Netanyahu would be in prison right now. 100%. But,
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you know what? Not only saves his skin, but I'll
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tell you what. I've talked about evil. The willingness to
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kill 100,000 Palestinians. And by the way, I'm not talking
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about Hamas. So everybody understands this. Hamas, the people that
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have the barbarity of it. But you know what also?
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The barbarity of Bibi Netanyahu. These people. Both sides. There's literally,
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there's this beautiful, this rabbi that does this thing. And
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I forget who he is. Famous guy. Within the Jewish community.
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He's an Orthodox rabbi. He sits there and he says,
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you know who, when Jews were being hunted, I forget
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what it was, by such and such, you know, state, empire,
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You know where they fled? You know who brought them in?
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The Palestinians. Because the Palestinian people will literally give you
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the shirt off their back. It's in their nature. It's that.
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My experience in the Middle East and with normal people
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over my travels, and I've traveled everywhere, is literally the
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most generous people in the world are there. And yet,
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here we are, you know, 2,500 years later, and everybody's
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still at each other's throats over control, like, of, you know,
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of a piece of dirt in the middle of the,
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you know, a desert. Yeah, well, to Jared Kushner, a
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very valuable piece of dirt. Oh, man, yeah, they're going
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to turn it into a golf course. Literally, that's what
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they do.
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So do you understand, you know, we talk about the
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conflation of like, you know, Israel and Jews in general.
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Do you understand why there is like.
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The overall sentiment that, you know, everything.
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We spoke about earlier, when we talked about Sam Altman,
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we talked about Meta and the girls killing themselves.
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It's proven. Yeah.
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Do you see the correlation between this whole like, why
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people have this perception of Jews in general? Because everyone
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we just mentioned, a lot of the industries we mentioned are...
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are owned and operated.
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Look, man, I think that that is, I think that
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that is a, and I'm not saying that means all
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Jewish people, but no, I got you. I understand what
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you're saying is, um, uh, it, it's very easy to
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say it, but it's as easy to say as this
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is that all crime is controlled by Armenians in LA.
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You know what I mean? It's not true. It's not
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01:14:51.659 --> 01:14:54.960
even remotely true, you know, but that, but you could
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01:14:55.020 --> 01:14:58.779
say that, or you could say that, um, you know, uh,
1355
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you know, all crack addicts are black. You know what
1356
01:15:01.229 --> 01:15:04.029
I mean? Because that's what we've been shown. And I'm
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here to tell you, that ain't true. That definitely ain't true.
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And so what I'm saying is that if that's told
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to you over and over and over again, now in
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the same way is that I'll tell you what, as
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a people, as what, it's 0.2% of the entire global
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population that we're talking about? The Jewish people? For sure.
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What percent of the people who own all the massive...
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I mean, Jared Kushner, Sam Altman.
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Mark Zuckerberg. I don't know, man, but I also know that...
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I'm not trying to go so far down the rabbit hole, but...
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I think that there are a lot of very, very,
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very successful people. But as a religious group, in terms
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of the control of wealth, the Catholics beat out the
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Jews every day. And I'm a Catholic. And you know
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who beats them out? Latter-day Saints. You know who owns
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more land in the United States of America as an
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entity than any other entity? I thought it was China. No,
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the Church of the Latter-day Saints. They own more cattle
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than any other, I think, other than King Ranch also.
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Latter-day Saints. And so you could go on and on
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and on about that. And here's the reason that it
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sticks with Jews, because they've been doing it to them
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for 2,500 years. And the reason they've been doing it
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to them for 2,500 years is is because they refuse
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to bend the knee to Pharaoh. They refuse to bend
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the knee to Caesar. They refuse to bend the knee
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to the Third Reich. And, you know, go on and
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on throughout history. And so when you stand apart like that,
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you also become a target. Now, that does not mean
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that Bibi Netanyahu is an evil mother that should be stopped.
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That's all I got to say, you know, about that.
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And I think that we can all agree on that. And, like,
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I know that I don't. I haven't listened to you
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on this topic enough to know what, like, but I,
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I also know this is that I listened to these
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other streamers and, and, and people. And I just feel
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like saying, Hey man, like I know because I've listened
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to you. You're smart enough to make certain that you,
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that you qualify it. I am not saying because what
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you're doing is you're taking away what you know is
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going to happen is that the, people that are incredibly disingenuous,
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that want to shut you up, that want to allow
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Bibi Netanyahu to keep doing what he wants to do,
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are going to say, you're an anti-Semite. So why is
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01:17:36.289 --> 01:17:39.069
it incumbent upon us? We shouldn't have to, but to
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01:17:39.109 --> 01:17:41.789
be able to say, yeah, I want to make it
1403
01:17:41.829 --> 01:17:44.649
clear who I'm talking about here. So that you don't
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01:17:44.689 --> 01:17:48.909
get a chance to say that I'm an anti-Semite. That's it.
1405
01:17:49.710 --> 01:17:52.250
So why do you think then, why in our government
1406
01:17:52.270 --> 01:17:55.260
do you think we're always willing to give money to
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01:17:55.300 --> 01:17:57.890
that that state that you said.
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01:17:57.789 --> 01:18:00.670
It at the beginning of the show, the military industrial complex. Yeah. Well,
1409
01:18:00.789 --> 01:18:03.210
I mean also all of our Congress people, they always vote. Yes.
1410
01:18:03.470 --> 01:18:06.810
It's not about, but on all sides, not, not democratic
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01:18:06.850 --> 01:18:10.020
or Republican. It isn't about Israel. It's not about democracy.
1412
01:18:10.029 --> 01:18:13.319
It's the same reason that we're allowing, we're giving, you know,
1413
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:16.760
Jared Kushner getting paid $ 110 million a year by the Saudis.
1414
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:20.100
It's about oil. It's about the flow of oil. It's
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01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:22.020
about the middle East. It's about the ability to be
1416
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:25.619
able to launch and control power and maintain power. against
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01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.779
people that have the control over our global economy. You know,
1418
01:18:28.819 --> 01:18:31.100
we're the largest producer of oil in the world, but
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01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:35.479
we can't alone, through the supply chain and the way
1420
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:38.569
in which we deliver oil globally, are not able to
1421
01:18:38.609 --> 01:18:41.409
control it all. And so when you disrupt, for instance,
1422
01:18:41.409 --> 01:18:44.670
the Strait of Hormuz, then you disrupt the entire global
1423
01:18:44.670 --> 01:18:47.939
economy because it increases the price, what, up 40% percent
1424
01:18:48.460 --> 01:18:51.340
a barrel? Now, they're finding ways to be able to
1425
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.250
get it out still. But it all inures, for instance,
1426
01:18:55.569 --> 01:18:58.329
to the benefit of Russia because their oil prices, now
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01:18:58.369 --> 01:19:00.909
they can fund the war, which they were running out
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01:19:00.930 --> 01:19:02.710
of money for, to be able to drop more bombs
1429
01:19:02.789 --> 01:19:08.779
on Kiev, to be able to control Ukraine. their region
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01:19:08.939 --> 01:19:11.319
in much the way that they want to recreate empire.
1431
01:19:11.770 --> 01:19:14.029
And so you have all of these domino effects. But
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01:19:14.069 --> 01:19:17.270
why do we support Israel? Well, you know, there's some
1433
01:19:17.329 --> 01:19:21.569
good reasons to support Israel. But they're far, but you
1434
01:19:21.609 --> 01:19:25.470
know what? The real answer is, is because they're smack
1435
01:19:25.510 --> 01:19:27.229
dab in the middle of where we have, you know,
1436
01:19:27.529 --> 01:19:29.880
an enormous amount of our economy runs through in one
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01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:30.399
way or another.
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01:19:30.699 --> 01:19:33.420
So in the conversation of Because I'm sure you've heard this.
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01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:35.140
I don't know if you've been on Twitter long enough.
1440
01:19:35.180 --> 01:19:38.039
You've for sure heard this. The conversation of Israel controlling
1441
01:19:38.060 --> 01:19:40.079
the United States, do you think that's true or do
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01:19:40.100 --> 01:19:40.880
you think it's inverse?
1443
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.510
No, I think that it is. I don't think that
1444
01:19:44.529 --> 01:19:47.189
there's any truth to this idea that we are controlled.
1445
01:19:47.229 --> 01:19:51.130
Because remember, every prime minister of Israel went to the
1446
01:19:51.470 --> 01:19:53.869
president of the United States since Jimmy Carter and said,
1447
01:19:53.930 --> 01:19:56.739
you need to drop bombs on Iran. Every single one.
1448
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.939
And every single president other than Donald Trump said no.
1449
01:20:00.409 --> 01:20:02.649
Yeah, but we did so many other wars leading up
1450
01:20:02.689 --> 01:20:04.550
to this that has done the same sort of outcome
1451
01:20:04.569 --> 01:20:05.640
that it seems like they've been looking for.
1452
01:20:05.649 --> 01:20:06.569
Yeah, I mean, but by the way, you know, the
1453
01:20:06.609 --> 01:20:10.729
Israelis didn't have any impact on... Well, anyway, who knows?
1454
01:20:11.020 --> 01:20:13.479
But my point is, I don't think it's for Israel.
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01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:15.859
I think it's for our own interest. I think that
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01:20:16.699 --> 01:20:20.060
Israel is a, you know, a pawn in our game.
1457
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:23.520
And I think that they have become really smart about
1458
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.520
how to manipulate the king, how to manipulate the queen
1459
01:20:27.180 --> 01:20:30.930
in a match. And they have become... experts at figuring
1460
01:20:31.050 --> 01:20:33.210
out how to use information, how to be able to
1461
01:20:33.329 --> 01:20:38.619
appeal to the ego and to the narcissism of whoever
1462
01:20:38.699 --> 01:20:41.420
sits in that office at any time, or to a
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01:20:41.460 --> 01:20:44.399
group of lawmakers about how to tell a story, about
1464
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:47.600
how to use their influence through money that they're able
1465
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:51.359
to use to create lobbying organizations here in the United
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01:20:51.420 --> 01:20:56.180
States to press their interests, their perceived interests. You know what?
1467
01:20:56.500 --> 01:20:59.930
It's just like any other corporation. It's the same way
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01:20:59.939 --> 01:21:04.090
the pharmaceutical industry have turned really good people into whores
1469
01:21:04.170 --> 01:21:06.829
for the money that they give them to vote their
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01:21:06.869 --> 01:21:09.970
way and look the other way when they create drugs
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01:21:10.010 --> 01:21:14.100
that are not only unsafe but unaffordable to 99% of Americans.
1472
01:21:14.460 --> 01:21:17.460
I just saw there's some cancer drug out there that
1473
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:19.760
could save your life if you can come up with $ 55, 000
1474
01:21:19.659 --> 01:21:24.229
a month for it. I mean, what the You know,
1475
01:21:24.369 --> 01:21:27.369
I mean, it doesn't, like, none of it makes any sense. Yeah.
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01:21:27.409 --> 01:21:27.970
Other than this.
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01:21:27.989 --> 01:21:29.289
You can probably go to Russia and get that for
1478
01:21:29.310 --> 01:21:32.369
like $ 2, 500.
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01:21:31.050 --> 01:21:32.529
I know. You can go to South Africa and get
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01:21:32.569 --> 01:21:34.770
it for $ 1, 500. Yeah. You know what I mean? For real.
1481
01:21:35.149 --> 01:21:37.810
I mean, and so, and we all have this conception
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01:21:38.689 --> 01:21:41.859
as Americans. And me too, by the way. Like, rah, rah.
1483
01:21:42.220 --> 01:21:45.060
I'm an American, man. I used to have an American
1484
01:21:45.100 --> 01:21:47.100
flag on the back of my truck. I drove a
1485
01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:49.520
Ford Raptor. And you know what? And I wore an
1486
01:21:49.539 --> 01:21:52.989
American flag hat. And I did it proudly. And I... And, like,
1487
01:21:53.350 --> 01:22:00.470
I am a U.S.-centric, you know, 250 years, greatest country
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01:22:00.989 --> 01:22:03.420
on the face of the planet. But you know what?
1489
01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.659
It's like they've ripped all of that away from us.
1490
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:09.180
Do you know what I mean? It's like the veil
1491
01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:12.920
is off. Who is they? Oh, they. You're right. Who
1492
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.909
is they? And that's what every single group of people
1493
01:22:15.949 --> 01:22:18.930
that we've been talking about. It's made it almost impossible
1494
01:22:18.970 --> 01:22:22.159
to not say, what the fuck is going on? And
1495
01:22:22.220 --> 01:22:27.800
so it is literally a handful of people, relatively, a
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01:22:27.859 --> 01:22:31.510
handful of people that are able to use money in
1497
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:37.270
a way to create a system that is so opaque
1498
01:22:37.430 --> 01:22:40.590
and so difficult for the normal person to understand that
1499
01:22:40.670 --> 01:22:43.829
they don't know where to direct their anger. And that's
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01:22:43.869 --> 01:22:47.590
what Trump tapped into more than anybody ever in American politics.
1501
01:22:48.210 --> 01:22:51.439
Not ever. That's not true. As much as anyone ever
1502
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:56.859
in American politics. And instead of saying, they, and let's
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01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.939
name them, let's name the pharmaceutical industry, let's name the
1504
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.890
military industrial complex, let's name the, and keep going down
1505
01:23:02.909 --> 01:23:05.789
the list. Go all the way down to AIPAC, okay?
1506
01:23:05.890 --> 01:23:07.970
And you can name them all. And you say, the
1507
01:23:08.010 --> 01:23:10.109
reason that we have this rule, the reason we're sending
1508
01:23:10.149 --> 01:23:12.550
this money to this place, the reason that you don't
1509
01:23:12.609 --> 01:23:15.840
have healthcare, is this, this, this, and this. Instead, what
1510
01:23:15.859 --> 01:23:23.520
they did, they said, wait, wait. They equals the 0.05%
1511
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:28.159
of trans people in this country. They equals immigrants that
1512
01:23:28.300 --> 01:23:31.229
are coming over here and stealing your jobs. I don't know.
1513
01:23:31.270 --> 01:23:34.750
Have you seen anybody stealing anybody's jobs right now? Like, whatever.
1514
01:23:35.390 --> 01:23:37.930
It's the criminals and rapists. It's they're eating your cats
1515
01:23:37.970 --> 01:23:41.270
and dogs. You know, it's Haitian immigrants. And that's what
1516
01:23:41.289 --> 01:23:43.810
they've done. Now, you know what? The problem is, is
1517
01:23:43.869 --> 01:23:46.659
just like you said, as it relates to the idea like, oh,
1518
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:48.899
you know, then you get called an anti-Semite. Well, then
1519
01:23:48.939 --> 01:23:51.140
everybody says to me, well, your dad opened up the
1520
01:23:51.180 --> 01:23:54.939
border and created blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, fuck you, man.
1521
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:57.619
It's this. It's a fucking problem. We need a legal
1522
01:23:58.289 --> 01:24:01.189
immigration system that works for everybody. Because you know what?
1523
01:24:01.489 --> 01:24:03.819
You do need a secure border. I agree with that.
1524
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.180
You absolutely do. But you also, you know what we need?
1525
01:24:06.539 --> 01:24:10.500
Because we literally are completely dependent upon immigration. It's the
1526
01:24:10.739 --> 01:24:12.880
only thing that makes us different than any other country
1527
01:24:12.899 --> 01:24:14.810
in the world is the number of people that want
1528
01:24:14.819 --> 01:24:17.789
to come here and create a life and bring their
1529
01:24:17.850 --> 01:24:20.909
families and struggle to get here. You know, something like,
1530
01:24:21.590 --> 01:24:23.949
I swear to God, it's like three out of ten,
1531
01:24:24.590 --> 01:24:26.949
more than this, but at least 30% of all new
1532
01:24:26.989 --> 01:24:30.069
businesses are created by immigrants. Did you know something like that?
1533
01:24:30.069 --> 01:24:36.630
35% of the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are all
1534
01:24:36.850 --> 01:24:42.479
first-generation immigrants. First-generation immigrants. They come here. So what are
1535
01:24:42.500 --> 01:24:45.020
we doing? We're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
1536
01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:46.779
You go and pick up a bunch of guys that
1537
01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.439
are looking for a job at Home Depot that work
1538
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:52.939
every day and then drive an Uber instead of picking
1539
01:24:53.020 --> 01:24:56.760
up the drug mules that are coming over and bringing
1540
01:24:56.779 --> 01:25:00.539
fentanyl in. That's what they're doing. They're rounding people up
1541
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:04.060
and sending them places to, like, seek out. Don't mistake, man.
1542
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:10.569
These are concentration camps. They're not detention centers. They're places
1543
01:25:10.689 --> 01:25:13.789
where you go and sit in a cage with no
1544
01:25:13.850 --> 01:25:17.670
due process or habeas corpus or any way for anyone
1545
01:25:17.710 --> 01:25:20.630
to be able to find you. And you just disappear.
1546
01:25:21.029 --> 01:25:24.479
It's wrong. I don't care who you are, man. That's
1547
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:26.819
literally the foundation of what it means to be an American.
1548
01:25:27.170 --> 01:25:30.380
The whole reason that we started a revolution beyond the
1549
01:25:30.449 --> 01:25:34.600
idea of being able to pursue property, to own property.
1550
01:25:35.020 --> 01:25:37.539
The other reason is, is that we did not believe
1551
01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:40.720
that the government, any government should ever, ever, ever be
1552
01:25:40.779 --> 01:25:44.460
able to control us without due process of law, without
1553
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:47.060
our day in court. Right. And we're doing that to people.
1554
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.699
Well, I mean, it just goes to the, my only
1555
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:52.640
sort of assumption here is like the only way to
1556
01:25:52.699 --> 01:25:55.319
actually change this here is, would be a revolution.
1557
01:25:56.260 --> 01:26:00.859
Radical change, a revolution within the limits of the existing
1558
01:26:01.020 --> 01:26:05.350
constitutional framework. Yes, 100%. I'm calling for a revolution. I'm
1559
01:26:05.390 --> 01:26:08.949
calling for a new New Deal. I'm calling for like-minded people, you,
1560
01:26:09.289 --> 01:26:11.569
the other people that I've named, the other influencers to
1561
01:26:11.930 --> 01:26:14.550
get on the same page and say, okay, let's all
1562
01:26:14.590 --> 01:26:16.810
make it clear. Number one, we're not anti-Semites, and this
1563
01:26:16.850 --> 01:26:19.600
is the reason why we love all our Jewish friends, okay? Yeah.
1564
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:23.180
Number two is that we don't believe that anybody necessarily
1565
01:26:23.260 --> 01:26:25.420
is going to and evil, but we do believe that
1566
01:26:25.460 --> 01:26:27.760
these people owe us an answer as to why the
1567
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:30.159
system works as it does. And just go down the
1568
01:26:30.460 --> 01:26:32.680
list of all the things you can agree on. And
1569
01:26:32.699 --> 01:26:35.619
I really mean it. It's like 80% of this stuff,
1570
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:38.319
I'm sure you and I agree on. Like, name something.
1571
01:26:39.510 --> 01:26:43.250
I mean, literally name something. I mean, immigration, yeah. I'm
1572
01:26:43.270 --> 01:26:46.890
with you. You know what? We had a bill in 2023.
1573
01:26:46.890 --> 01:26:51.250
James Lankford, one of the most conservative senators in the
1574
01:26:51.550 --> 01:26:55.199
country from Oklahoma. came up and got 10 Republicans or
1575
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:57.520
15 Republicans to sign off for it and got the
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01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:02.000
administration signed off. It created like a thousand more immigration
1577
01:27:02.060 --> 01:27:05.140
courts to be able to move asylum seekers in or out,
1578
01:27:06.420 --> 01:27:08.899
but not, you know, like on the border where they
1579
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:12.560
go into hotels and then, you know, go into the, into,
1580
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.939
into the, into the interior. We created a, you know,
1581
01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:20.380
a billions of more dollars for border security and all
1582
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:22.510
of that. And they, They iced it. You know why?
1583
01:27:22.569 --> 01:27:24.170
Because an election was coming up and they wanted it
1584
01:27:24.229 --> 01:27:26.670
as an issue. What about foreign aid? I think we
1585
01:27:26.710 --> 01:27:29.189
should give no money to anyone. Well, see, I disagree.
1586
01:27:29.329 --> 01:27:31.109
And one of the reasons I disagree was from my
1587
01:27:31.210 --> 01:27:34.020
own personal experience. OK, when I was a chairman of
1588
01:27:34.029 --> 01:27:36.979
the board, the UN World Food Program is the largest
1589
01:27:37.020 --> 01:27:40.720
humanitarian organization in the world. We serve 80 million people.
1590
01:27:40.739 --> 01:27:43.579
I always get this mixed up. And the numbers have
1591
01:27:43.619 --> 01:27:45.770
changed since I was a chairman of the board. 80
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01:27:45.770 --> 01:27:48.619
million people on a daily basis in 72 different countries.
1593
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:51.800
And also it's the access point through which we would
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01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:58.180
deliver humanitarian aid, like life-saving medications and stuff. Okay. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
1595
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.630
let me explain why. Okay. It was the greatest way
1596
01:28:02.890 --> 01:28:06.409
to influence people ever. I'm not talking about psyops or
1597
01:28:06.449 --> 01:28:11.489
anything like that, but we took away this thing called PEPFAR,
1598
01:28:12.270 --> 01:28:16.810
which is putting antiretroviral drugs in, Into the bodies of
1599
01:28:16.939 --> 01:28:19.829
people that have been infected with AIDS, many of them
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01:28:19.989 --> 01:28:22.329
to no fault of their own, born through people that
1601
01:28:22.350 --> 01:28:27.569
have HIV. Children. We've took that away. By 2030, 4
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01:28:27.569 --> 01:28:31.250
million children under the age of 5, because they do
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01:28:31.310 --> 01:28:34.050
not have access to the medications in which we already
1604
01:28:34.109 --> 01:28:36.369
found the funding for, that was already approved by Congress
1605
01:28:36.569 --> 01:28:39.619
years ago by George Bush. How many kids? Four million
1606
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:44.819
people by 2030 in the next five years. And they're
1607
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:48.600
dead because they will not get medication that could otherwise
1608
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.020
save their life and that was available to them. And
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01:28:52.090 --> 01:28:54.470
so my point is, is why does that matter to us?
1610
01:28:55.109 --> 01:28:57.930
You know why? Because a stable, a more stable world
1611
01:28:58.029 --> 01:29:01.260
matters to us. When you walk into any refugee camp,
1612
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:03.020
you know what you would see? You would see a
1613
01:29:03.050 --> 01:29:05.890
gift from the American people. So if you're running from
1614
01:29:05.949 --> 01:29:10.630
some dictator, what do you see? You either see the
1615
01:29:10.670 --> 01:29:13.899
guy holding the AK-47 saying, you know, come with us.
1616
01:29:15.180 --> 01:29:16.739
You want to be a terrorist? You want to be
1617
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:19.180
a criminal? Or you see this sign that says a
1618
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:21.800
gift from the American people and people that are there
1619
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:24.779
that are going to attend to your dying or sick
1620
01:29:25.100 --> 01:29:29.170
sister who's six years old. That's an incredible force to
1621
01:29:29.189 --> 01:29:31.109
be able to have, and we had that everywhere, and
1622
01:29:31.149 --> 01:29:33.649
now it's gone. And so I hear people like Joe
1623
01:29:33.689 --> 01:29:36.590
Rogan go, oh, yeah, it was just a cover for
1624
01:29:36.630 --> 01:29:40.140
the CIA and things like that. So? Say it was.
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01:29:41.180 --> 01:29:43.720
Say much of it was. Isn't that great for us?
1626
01:29:43.739 --> 01:29:46.859
Isn't that a good thing? Like, you're saying that they're
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smart and they've been able to figure out a way
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01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:50.439
to be able to infiltrate places that they never could
1629
01:29:50.460 --> 01:29:53.119
have understood to be able to gather intelligence to keep
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01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:55.680
us safe in the homeland? You're saying that's a bad thing?
1631
01:29:56.420 --> 01:29:58.449
You know? Oh, well, it's all a lot of grift
1632
01:29:58.489 --> 01:30:03.409
and graft and greed, and they're like a siphon of
1633
01:30:03.449 --> 01:30:06.880
money into people's pockets. Okay. You had access to every
1634
01:30:06.899 --> 01:30:10.760
single transaction USAID ever did. They went through it. They
1635
01:30:11.140 --> 01:30:13.220
combed through it because they wanted to find all of
1636
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:16.399
that fraud, right? Well, where is it, man? They've had
1637
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:18.159
now two years. Where is it? I just feel like
1638
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:20.840
in our government, we don't actually action on things that
1639
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:24.050
are fraud. Literally, the entire existence of Doge was predicated
1640
01:30:24.130 --> 01:30:27.899
upon finding that. So my point is this. Yeah, I'm
1641
01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:32.000
against foreign aid when we have homeless vets sitting here.
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01:30:32.260 --> 01:30:34.359
So you and I agree. But we can have a
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01:30:34.399 --> 01:30:36.640
nuanced discussion about it. And I can tell you, well, look,
1644
01:30:36.779 --> 01:30:38.659
some of this is really good for us. What about
1645
01:30:38.699 --> 01:30:40.600
as it pertains to giving money to Israel so they
1646
01:30:40.619 --> 01:30:44.550
can kill kids in Gaza? Nope. Nope. Pose to it. Look,
1647
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:47.670
I'm not forgiving any money to the Netanyahu government. When
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01:30:47.810 --> 01:30:50.689
Israel gets an act together again with an administration and
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01:30:50.710 --> 01:30:53.489
a government that will take into consideration the lives of
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01:30:53.510 --> 01:30:56.270
innocent people... 100% until they know.
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01:30:56.449 --> 01:30:58.630
It seems like now they passed some law to blend
1652
01:30:58.670 --> 01:31:00.640
these two things together so it's even more blurry.
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01:31:00.779 --> 01:31:04.300
Yeah, man. Probably did. And I'm certain they did it
1654
01:31:04.340 --> 01:31:07.899
for that exact reason. That's why we need new leadership, man.
1655
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.000
That's exactly what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is
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01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:11.729
we don't disagree.
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01:31:12.069 --> 01:31:13.630
But what if we just do none of it at all?
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01:31:13.649 --> 01:31:17.310
Because you referenced people other places. I think we've gotten
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01:31:17.329 --> 01:31:19.250
to a point of maximal.
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01:31:19.810 --> 01:31:22.899
Like we just talked about the debt earlier, 40 trillion, right? Yeah.
1661
01:31:23.020 --> 01:31:26.479
We're too far gone. Like at some point, this, you're
1662
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.079
talking about, we talked about earlier, the empire falling. Like
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01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.300
the United States as it's being like the.
1664
01:31:31.619 --> 01:31:32.649
World power falling.
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01:31:33.090 --> 01:31:35.409
So at what point do we go, okay, we need
1666
01:31:35.430 --> 01:31:37.949
to cut this cold turkey as an addict would know.
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01:31:38.069 --> 01:31:40.210
That's the only way to really stop it, right? No
1668
01:31:40.329 --> 01:31:41.760
one should get any more of this money.
1669
01:31:42.260 --> 01:31:44.380
No one. I don't think we should do anything. If
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01:31:44.420 --> 01:31:46.060
you were going to do it across the board. I
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01:31:46.060 --> 01:31:48.189
don't think so. By the way, no. I don't disagree
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01:31:48.229 --> 01:31:50.449
with you. If you do it across the board in
1673
01:31:50.489 --> 01:31:55.470
a way in which you also restructure the system so
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01:31:55.489 --> 01:31:57.789
that it inures to the benefit of the people that
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01:31:57.829 --> 01:31:59.989
are most in need and that got screwed by the
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01:32:00.050 --> 01:32:03.850
system the most, yes. But you know what? They cut USAID.
1677
01:32:03.970 --> 01:32:06.029
And what did they do? They gave a tax cut
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01:32:06.090 --> 01:32:09.720
to the 0.1%. That's what they did. And by the way,
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01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:14.180
it's 0.5% of the entire budget. We're talking about all
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01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.149
the foreign aid, all of it. 0.5% of the entire
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01:32:17.189 --> 01:32:21.189
budget on an annual basis. It literally adds nothing to
1682
01:32:21.210 --> 01:32:24.869
the debt. It's a drop.
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01:32:25.590 --> 01:32:28.149
Yeah, but when you use words like point whatever percent,
1684
01:32:28.189 --> 01:32:30.810
it's still hundreds of billions of dollars.
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01:32:31.310 --> 01:32:33.529
I don't disagree. If you really, really want to be
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01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:36.520
able to figure out, for instance, if the argument is
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01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:39.689
get rid of it because of the debt. Well, it
1688
01:32:39.729 --> 01:32:42.390
doesn't add up when what you could do is you
1689
01:32:42.569 --> 01:32:46.449
could go and repeal the Trump tax cuts and apply
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01:32:46.510 --> 01:32:50.090
them to to the ninety nine point nine percent of
1691
01:32:50.109 --> 01:32:53.310
people that did not get a tax cut. Or you could,
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01:32:53.329 --> 01:32:58.439
you know, look at entitlements, whether it's Social Security, Medicaid,
1693
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:01.560
Medicare and how they're distributed and who they're distributed to.
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01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:04.020
And I'll tell you what, like, for instance, the reason
1695
01:33:04.060 --> 01:33:06.899
why I want universal health care, because it'll and do
1696
01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:09.600
amazing things as it relates to our deficit and our debt.
1697
01:33:10.180 --> 01:33:12.880
Because the amount of money that the U.S. government pays
1698
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:16.880
for access to health care through Medicare and Medicaid is
1699
01:33:17.020 --> 01:33:19.220
so inflated because of the way that the system is.
1700
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:22.640
As if you create a one-payer system and a universal
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01:33:22.699 --> 01:33:27.119
health care plan, then you bring all costs down in
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01:33:27.189 --> 01:33:29.489
line with the rest of the world. So you go
1703
01:33:29.529 --> 01:33:32.210
to a doctor appointment and, you know, like you name
1704
01:33:32.250 --> 01:33:34.850
the country. Yeah, Russia. Yeah. Yeah, and it costs literally
1705
01:33:34.850 --> 01:33:36.659
10 times less. You go to get, for instance, a
1706
01:33:36.699 --> 01:33:39.800
CAT scan. And here, you have to wait three weeks
1707
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.720
to be able to get it. And when you go there,
1708
01:33:42.939 --> 01:33:45.300
it's what, like $ 8, 000? Yeah, they're charging $ 700 for a
1709
01:33:45.300 --> 01:33:57.000
bag of saline, $ 400 for a bag of saline. And
1710
01:33:57.220 --> 01:34:01.960
instead of these single-payer groups, insurance companies, and I have
1711
01:34:01.979 --> 01:34:04.239
to pay this much money in insurance, and then the
1712
01:34:04.270 --> 01:34:07.100
insurance companies reimburse it, and they reimburse 85% of it,
1713
01:34:07.430 --> 01:34:09.770
so they inflate the place, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1714
01:34:10.350 --> 01:34:12.430
We know the system. We know that it sucks. We
1715
01:34:12.470 --> 01:34:14.789
know that we all hate it. But that would have
1716
01:34:15.210 --> 01:34:18.310
tremendous effect in terms of our deficit and being able
1717
01:34:18.350 --> 01:34:20.739
to attack it. And we all agree on it. But
1718
01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:22.300
you know what? They don't do it. Why don't they
1719
01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:25.239
don't do it? Because there's a handful of people in Washington, D.C.
1720
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:27.770
who spend millions and millions of dollars a year. And
1721
01:34:27.810 --> 01:34:31.310
they don't put it in pockets. They don't, like, go
1722
01:34:31.409 --> 01:34:33.909
up to senators and give them money. What they do
1723
01:34:34.329 --> 01:34:37.590
is they fund their campaigns. And they say, we're going
1724
01:34:37.609 --> 01:34:40.029
to donate millions of dollars. Just a different version of
1725
01:34:40.050 --> 01:34:42.630
putting it in your pocket. It's a different version. It
1726
01:34:42.930 --> 01:34:45.670
allows you to stay in power to vote in their favor.
1727
01:34:45.770 --> 01:34:47.729
And a lot of people come, and they don't intend
1728
01:34:47.750 --> 01:34:49.699
to do that. But they got a really hard race.
1729
01:34:49.739 --> 01:34:51.220
And are they going to take back money from this
1730
01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:54.399
person or that thing or other? And so and they do.
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01:34:54.989 --> 01:34:57.329
And then all of a sudden, you know what? You're
1732
01:34:57.409 --> 01:35:01.529
justifying in their mind why. You know what? You know,
1733
01:35:01.550 --> 01:35:04.409
health care for all is a ridiculous idea. That's communism.
1734
01:35:04.979 --> 01:35:07.899
That's socialism. You know what? I want to be able
1735
01:35:07.939 --> 01:35:10.699
to go to the doctor I want to go to. Yeah.
1736
01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:13.390
Good luck. Good luck in this system going to the
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01:35:13.449 --> 01:35:15.989
doctor you want to do it. If you're with Kaiser Permanente,
1738
01:35:16.050 --> 01:35:18.189
as compared to Blue Cross Blue Shield, as compared to
1739
01:35:18.229 --> 01:35:21.590
not having any insurance at all, you don't get to
1740
01:35:21.930 --> 01:35:23.710
choose the doctor that you go to. You've got to
1741
01:35:23.750 --> 01:35:25.670
be in system. And if it's in system, then it's
1742
01:35:25.710 --> 01:35:27.609
got to be this doctor. And if you can get
1743
01:35:27.649 --> 01:35:29.720
that doctor at UCLA at this time, then you've got
1744
01:35:29.739 --> 01:35:32.119
to get a referral. And the referral costs, I mean, like,
1745
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:34.720
who the fuck are we kidding, man? It's totally absurd.
1746
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:37.420
And all of these arguments against the things that we
1747
01:35:37.460 --> 01:35:42.319
all agree on are just that. They're both. They're both
1748
01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:46.100
bought and paid for. Again, I really, truly, truly believe
1749
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:49.560
that the vast majority of the things that normal people
1750
01:35:49.579 --> 01:35:52.560
fucking care about, the safety and security of their family,
1751
01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:55.899
the ability to send their kids to school without fear
1752
01:35:55.930 --> 01:36:02.170
of violence, the freedom to be in an environment in
1753
01:36:02.210 --> 01:36:05.979
which you don't think that there's a gigantic population. pedophile
1754
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:09.100
ring the you know to be a dude yeah that
1755
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:11.659
in and of itself is just like well man it's
1756
01:36:11.779 --> 01:36:14.789
it's a real thing too and so it gets to
1757
01:36:14.829 --> 01:36:17.930
the thing that we were creeping towards which is this
1758
01:36:18.630 --> 01:36:22.970
is it worth saving I'm an eternal optimist okay and
1759
01:36:22.989 --> 01:36:25.930
I gotta be just think about my own history okay
1760
01:36:25.949 --> 01:36:28.380
yeah like the fact that I'm sitting here is like
1761
01:36:28.409 --> 01:36:30.760
against all odds and I don't mean like because I'm
1762
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:35.170
so tough I got lucky I got lucky by who
1763
01:36:35.869 --> 01:36:37.689
my parents are. Not just that he was President of
1764
01:36:37.710 --> 01:36:39.149
the United States, but I had a great dad that
1765
01:36:39.210 --> 01:36:41.310
loved me and that loves me more than anything in
1766
01:36:41.329 --> 01:36:43.550
the world and was there for me. I got lucky
1767
01:36:43.569 --> 01:36:47.600
because I met my wife who literally helped save me.
1768
01:36:47.979 --> 01:36:52.060
So many ways I got lucky. How is Joe? He's okay.
1769
01:36:52.500 --> 01:36:57.359
You know, stage 4 prostate cancer is treatable and they
1770
01:36:57.380 --> 01:36:59.920
were able to bring the PSA down to basically zero
1771
01:36:59.979 --> 01:37:03.989
through radiation. But It had already gotten into his bones.
1772
01:37:05.109 --> 01:37:08.489
So it metastasized, which is called metastatic bone cancer. And
1773
01:37:08.529 --> 01:37:11.170
I said this to people, and I said his cancer spread,
1774
01:37:11.649 --> 01:37:15.199
which is what metastatic means, which was the original diagnosis,
1775
01:37:15.859 --> 01:37:21.399
which is being controlled by hormone therapy. The hormone therapy is...
1776
01:37:22.119 --> 01:37:27.029
It's like blasting testosterone? Taking it to zero. Oh, no! Yeah.
1777
01:37:27.069 --> 01:37:32.439
That's terrible! Awful. Oh, my God! Yeah. And because that's
1778
01:37:32.460 --> 01:37:34.979
what fuels the cancer and the continued growth that they
1779
01:37:35.010 --> 01:37:36.789
have to take it to zero. And he had a
1780
01:37:36.930 --> 01:37:39.949
really high testosterone. So he was just popping estrogen pills
1781
01:37:40.029 --> 01:37:42.229
or what? No, it's like, yeah, it's a hormone therapy.
1782
01:37:42.350 --> 01:37:46.729
It's like a hormone therapy. Like it blocks the testosterone.
1783
01:37:47.090 --> 01:37:49.409
That sounds horrible. It really is. And so, you know
1784
01:37:49.430 --> 01:37:52.380
what I mean? And so it's really, really uncomfortable. It's
1785
01:37:52.409 --> 01:37:55.680
really uncomfortable and particularly uncomfortable. Was he dealing with that,
1786
01:37:55.699 --> 01:37:58.579
but like on his way out of term? Yeah. Oh,
1787
01:37:58.619 --> 01:38:02.970
he didn't know. He had no idea that he did. Um, But, yeah, obviously,
1788
01:38:04.270 --> 01:38:08.569
it doesn't grow that fast. But he's okay. But, anyway,
1789
01:38:08.609 --> 01:38:11.850
what I was saying is this, is that, you know,
1790
01:38:11.899 --> 01:38:15.039
I have this debate with Melissa all the time, which is, like,
1791
01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:18.140
you just say, throw up your hands and say, fuck it. Like...
1792
01:38:19.020 --> 01:38:22.590
This is your wife. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, like,
1793
01:38:23.390 --> 01:38:26.329
I'm going to get mine. I'm going to build the bunker.
1794
01:38:26.750 --> 01:38:28.289
I'm going to figure out. I'm going to get the
1795
01:38:28.310 --> 01:38:32.520
fuck out of here. Fuck all of these... It's all rigged.
1796
01:38:32.899 --> 01:38:35.520
That's what the smartest people are doing. Or the most
1797
01:38:35.579 --> 01:38:36.260
wealthy people.
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01:38:36.970 --> 01:38:41.189
I don't know if they're the smartest. Look, man. I
1799
01:38:41.210 --> 01:38:44.409
think it's worth fighting for. I want to fight for it.
1800
01:38:44.689 --> 01:38:45.130
I agree.
1801
01:38:45.149 --> 01:38:46.810
I just think they know where it's going. I think
1802
01:38:46.850 --> 01:38:48.649
if they know where it's going, because they're also the
1803
01:38:48.670 --> 01:38:49.989
ones finger on the button.
1804
01:38:50.279 --> 01:38:53.899
Yeah, but a lot of really, really smart people, you know,
1805
01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:57.720
chose the Third Reich in World War II. You know
1806
01:38:57.739 --> 01:39:00.000
what I mean? Like, you know, Charles Lindbergh, who was
1807
01:39:00.100 --> 01:39:03.659
the most famous person in the world. And, you know,
1808
01:39:03.850 --> 01:39:08.689
Charles Lindbergh, the aviator. Yeah. And the first circumnavigate, or
1809
01:39:08.949 --> 01:39:13.930
I think, not circumnavigate, he flew over the Atlantic, right?
1810
01:39:14.090 --> 01:39:15.670
He was a Nazi. He was a Nazi. During the,
1811
01:39:15.890 --> 01:39:19.909
you know, lead up to the, he was an incredible
1812
01:39:19.930 --> 01:39:23.250
believer in Hitler in the German war. And so my
1813
01:39:23.369 --> 01:39:27.449
point being is this, is really, really smart people, on
1814
01:39:27.470 --> 01:39:30.670
the face of it, smart people, are often wrong. I
1815
01:39:30.710 --> 01:39:32.670
think they're wrong about the way in which they are,
1816
01:39:34.069 --> 01:39:38.029
they've directed policy. I think that it's going to come
1817
01:39:38.069 --> 01:39:42.779
back to haunt those people that are taking advantage of
1818
01:39:42.819 --> 01:39:46.199
the other, and I really mean this, 99% of us,
1819
01:39:46.739 --> 01:39:49.439
one of the things that people think is this, is
1820
01:39:49.460 --> 01:39:52.010
that do you realize in order to be in the
1821
01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:55.850
top 1% of incomers in this country, you would think
1822
01:39:55.869 --> 01:39:59.270
that it means like tens of millions of dollars, right? $ 750, 000
1823
01:39:59.069 --> 01:40:03.350
is the average income of the top 1%. Yeah, well,
1824
01:40:03.369 --> 01:40:06.329
they put on paper. That's the point. Yeah. It's because
1825
01:40:06.430 --> 01:40:10.579
nobody with real wealth pays themselves any income. But where...
1826
01:40:10.899 --> 01:40:14.050
All of our tax proceeds come from, the vast, vast
1827
01:40:14.090 --> 01:40:18.029
majority come from income tax. So we sit there, and
1828
01:40:18.069 --> 01:40:20.210
when we say that we're going to raise the median
1829
01:40:20.250 --> 01:40:25.409
income tax by X, you know, and nobody that's wealthy
1830
01:40:25.890 --> 01:40:29.229
gives a fuck because they don't pay themselves. Elon Musk
1831
01:40:29.250 --> 01:40:32.770
pays himself $ 0. The state of California sued Elon Musk
1832
01:40:32.810 --> 01:40:35.840
because he paid himself $ 0. Do you know why? Because
1833
01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:39.140
it goes against labor laws. You have to pay an
1834
01:40:39.180 --> 01:40:42.760
employee something. So now he pays himself $ 1. And by
1835
01:40:42.779 --> 01:40:47.159
the way, not because he's breaking the law. Because he's
1836
01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:49.699
taking advantage of the system in the way that it works.
1837
01:40:50.260 --> 01:40:53.810
If you have wealth, you never ever touch your principal.
1838
01:40:54.270 --> 01:40:59.289
You live off of your interest earning investments. And you
1839
01:40:59.329 --> 01:41:02.729
borrow money against it. And he did. But you know what?
1840
01:41:03.250 --> 01:41:07.109
Only about... 0.5% of the people even remotely have the
1841
01:41:07.229 --> 01:41:09.329
opportunity or the chance to be able to do that.
1842
01:41:09.409 --> 01:41:12.069
But we all like have this idea. Well, that's us.
1843
01:41:12.850 --> 01:41:15.310
It's not us. It's not even people that are doing
1844
01:41:15.470 --> 01:41:19.869
really well. The rich are getting hit. And when I
1845
01:41:19.909 --> 01:41:21.850
say rich people, like I think, you know, when I
1846
01:41:21.850 --> 01:41:24.430
was growing up, at least, you know, making $ 750, 000, you
1847
01:41:24.449 --> 01:41:26.590
were pretty rich. You know, I wish I was making $ 750, 000.
1848
01:41:26.489 --> 01:41:28.180
And so like, like you can live a life, $ 250, 000,
1849
01:41:28.020 --> 01:41:36.479
depending upon where you are. It's, They're getting killed just
1850
01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:38.920
as hard as anybody at the bottom. Because the people
1851
01:41:38.939 --> 01:41:42.520
at the very, very bottom are paying income tax. But
1852
01:41:42.579 --> 01:41:47.000
they're getting crushed on their entitlement taxes. And they're getting
1853
01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:49.880
crushed by the cost of living. Yeah. And so they can't,
1854
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they don't, they're not making enough money to just make it.
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How do you pay rent in Los Angeles? How do
1856
01:41:55.350 --> 01:41:56.930
you do it, man? Oh, you have fucking six employees.
1857
01:41:57.149 --> 01:41:58.619
How do you do it? Or excuse me, you have six,
1858
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you know, co-inhabitants of a spot. Yeah, man. Six roommates. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
1859
01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:06.899
And it's like, and you look out there and you
1860
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go like, how do people do it? And because I'm
1861
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trying to do it, you know what I mean? And
1862
01:42:13.460 --> 01:42:16.260
everybody else I know is, you know, trying to figure
1863
01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:23.390
it out. Start a crypto coin. Laptop, baby. Yeah, but
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I'll tell you what, is this, is it, you know
1865
01:42:25.649 --> 01:42:27.510
what else I get to do with that? Is that
1866
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I get, just today, if the coins stabilize at where
1867
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it was supposed to be, I've literally given away tens
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of millions of dollars to my sub-subscribers. People that never
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asked for anything, didn't get anything, they're going to be
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able to pay their rent. They're going to be able
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to pay for groceries. They're going to be able to
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01:42:42.550 --> 01:42:45.770
do the things, both free and paid. And then 5%
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of my coin is dedicated to Cherry, which could go
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up to 35% of my coin. So if it stabilizes
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and it remains, you know, if I can keep it
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even remotely where it is right now, I'll be able
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to give tens of millions of dollars to people that
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are struggling in addiction and recovery. And by the way,
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that does not make me a Insane. Because I got
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my 10% too. Okay? And I can't touch it for
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six months over two years. But regardless, yeah, goddamn right. Like,
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what do you think? Work my ass off to, you know,
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do this. And to be able to create something that's
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different than everybody else. To be dragged as a crack
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addict for so long, right? They made $ 9 billion. By
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the way, they made, you know how much earned media
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that we calculated? That I had somebody come up to
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01:43:28.050 --> 01:43:30.829
me and calculate that they made off of Hunter Biden laptops?
1889
01:43:31.939 --> 01:43:34.819
Nine and a half billion dollars. Nine and a half
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01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:38.779
billion dollars in clickbait that they put in their pocket. Well,
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01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:41.920
fuck them. I'm taking it back. Every time you say
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laptop now. Every time you say laptop now. Thank you. Ding, ding.
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01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:50.420
For real. I mean it. It's like, and here's another thing.
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01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:54.079
I mean, for real. Like, you, what are you going
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01:43:54.100 --> 01:43:56.220
to say about me that you already haven't said? I'm
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01:43:56.239 --> 01:43:59.720
a crack addict and this and that and the other thing.
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You know what? I know who I am. I know
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who I have a responsibility to. I know the people
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that I need to take care of in my life,
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that I want to take care of in my life.
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My family. And I am not the narrative that has
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01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:16.699
been told about me. I get to go out and
1903
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tell it now. You know what this gives me the
1904
01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:20.600
ability to do? To keep doing it. To not be
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beholden to anybody. To not have to go and get
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a corporate shill job and shill for somebody that I
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01:44:28.989 --> 01:44:33.890
have no trust in or care for what they're selling
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i get to go out and sell what i'm selling
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the only show for myself yeah exactly and by the
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way to talk about the all the shit that we
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just talked about yeah i don't know like i listen
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out there and i think all the other people hear
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01:44:49.579 --> 01:44:53.399
this like cacophony of like of like competing voices i
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01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:56.399
don't i hear the underneath of it i hear where
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everybody's saying the Same thing over and over and over
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01:45:00.090 --> 01:45:02.689
again in just different ways. That's what I hear. And
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like you said, like, so why would I go and
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sit down with Stiney? Why would I go and sit
1919
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down with Neon? Why would I go and sit down
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with Tucker Carlson? Why would I go and sit down
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with Bill Maher? Why would I go down? Because you
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01:45:16.720 --> 01:45:18.939
know what? They all have a different audience and some
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of them overlap. Some of them don't. But you know what?
1924
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I get to go out there and say, hey, you're
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not doing it. There's no there's no wall between me
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and you. I've been there. Yeah. All the places that
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you don't want to admit that you were, I was
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there and I'm sitting here talking about them. Yeah.
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Well, I guess I got to go back into your
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stuff a little bit specifically. There was like certain photos
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and view. Like, have you addressed those things?
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Yeah. Like in detail? They were me. They were made. No,
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they were me. They were you. Yeah. You mean like
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me having sex in a motel room? There was other ones.
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There was like, there was ones with like a bunch of,
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I feel like it was like a bunch of, I
1937
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don't know. I sound so fucked up, but. It was
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like a bunch of girls putting their feet on you. No,
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total bullshit. And by the way, go listen to the tapes,
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the Bannon-Gow tapes. There are tapes that you can get
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off of Mother Jones, an article that Dan Friedman wrote
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in which he has recorded conversations between Gow and Miles Gow,
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this expat billionaire Chinese dissident who's now serving 64 years
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in prison for fraud, and Steve Bannon, who was his partner.
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And they literally, they took a hard drive to New
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Zealand and then they, and they filled it with like
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fake photos and stuff like that and pushed it out
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to push a pedophile thing. Like, so, you know, like
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all of that, all of that is fake. And by
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the way, provable, provably fake. Yeah. They did a bunch
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of that with your father too, with like kissing girls. Yeah. Yeah.
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Total bullshit. Yeah. I mean, the one that they always used,
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As it relates to that, it's like Joe Biden snippet.
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It all started because my brother's funeral, my nephew, is
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standing in front of him, and he has his hands
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around his head, and he leaned down, and he's kissing
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his head as the casket's going by, my brother's, his
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dad's casket. I mean, Jesus Christ. Look, man, you can
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say a lot of things about my dad. But he
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got elected when he was 29 years old. Youngest man
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ever elected to the United States Senate in modern history
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before senators, when senators were elected by popular vote rather
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01:47:23.460 --> 01:47:25.880
than appointed. No, by the way, he was saying crazy
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back in the day. Oh yeah, man. Like crazy on
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CNN or C-SPAN, whatever it was. I was like, holy. Yeah, man.
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That was a different time. Yeah. Yeah. Different time. Yeah. Crazy. Bro,
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I wish I could, I want to, I want to
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pull this up so bad, but I don't even know
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what to type in Google. Yeah. But anyways, yeah. But anyway, yeah. So, like,
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you know, but people see through that. But not everybody does. So,
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I mean, the single most, you know, I think, you know,
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the bot troll on X is, you know, to call
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somebody a pedophile. Because it's the worst thing that you
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can possibly call them. And it's an old tactic. That's
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what they did to Drake. Yeah. I mean, it's the
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01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:10.159
worst thing that you can say about somebody. And so
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if you can believe that about somebody, then you know what?
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you can believe that they've taken a little on the side,
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you know, and for, you know, selling influencer. Right. that
1980
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they can, you know, and literally it's, you know, it
1981
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was a, it was a technique that was, um, uh,
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01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:29.739
perfected by the Nazis, um, against people and then later
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used by Putin. And, you know, it's been used by,
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you know, every single, you know, uh, Probably intelligence operation. Mossad, maybe. What?
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Maybe Mossad a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Because the whole
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Epstein thing is like, that's the argument.
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It's sort of blackmail on politicians to get them and
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coerce them to do what they want.
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Them to do. Yeah, but here's another thing, too. It's
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about that. So I look at all this stuff. It's
1991
01:48:58.069 --> 01:49:01.949
not the politicians. I mean, he had maybe some politicians, Trump.
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01:49:02.510 --> 01:49:04.680
But you know who it really is? It's the The
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01:49:04.739 --> 01:49:06.859
real power, like you said. Yeah, the business people. It's
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the real powerful people. Who are then influencing the politicians. Yeah, exactly.
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All of the names that are on there are names
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that 99% of Americans never heard of before they hear
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their names in the Epstein files. Like who the fucking
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01:49:20.130 --> 01:49:25.250
Leon Black was, or whatever his name is. I don't
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know if that's the correct name, if I just named
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01:49:26.949 --> 01:49:33.029
them wrong. But like all of those names, combining those people...
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with people in power and mixing them on the same
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private business jet where you go into the back room
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01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:43.739
and get a massage. You know what I mean? The
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01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:45.960
Lex Wexner's funding the whole thing. Lex Wexner, that's what
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01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:48.850
I was saying, not Liam Black. Sorry, Liam Black. So
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when it comes to that, why do they have just
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immunity to everything?
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Why would our government redact things?
2009
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Exactly. Exactly. Like, why? Why? And I think we can
2010
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all come to our own conclusions. I think that was a,
2011
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I'm sorry.
2012
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I think that was a really big inflection point of,
2013
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because to me it feels like at this point, they're
2014
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kind of just being like, you.
2015
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Can't do about it. Yeah. That's exactly what it feels like.
2016
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And I think that's what Todd Lance is doing. He
2017
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just said, you know, like over my dead body. And
2018
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what are you going to do? Everybody thinks that the midterms,
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which I really, really hope go well. And I think
2020
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that at least you have a shift. And control power.
2021
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Not for the reasons that you think. Because I think
2022
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everything's going to be fixed. At least, though, it will
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staunch the bleeding that's happening.
2024
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I think it's just going to make us bleed from
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a different direction. That's how this all feels.
2026
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Maybe, man. I hate that it's a little more cynical.
2027
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Now I'm kind of tired, and I don't want to
2028
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argue with you.
2029
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Yeah.
2030
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Because it takes energy to argue and to be an optimist.
2031
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Because you've got to get your... And that's part of it, too.
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It's like human nature. Like, what the fuck do I care?
2033
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You know what I mean? Like, you wake up in
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the morning, and you're like, particularly for me, and you, like,
2035
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pick up your phone, and it's like, you know, oh,
2036
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you know, another 450, you know, 4,000 people on X,
2037
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you know, calling me this, that, or the other thing
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because I said this, that, or whatever. It's like, what?
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you know what, I'm going to do my own thing.
2040
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I think that's the purpose. I think that's part of
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the effort.
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Like I said earlier, I think it's to make people,
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as many people as possible, feel nihilistic and think that
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there's no hope. And then if there's no hope, then
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01:51:33.390 --> 01:51:34.869
you have no ability to come out and say, you
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01:51:34.890 --> 01:51:35.869
know what, we're actually going to change this.
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01:51:35.890 --> 01:51:37.430
It's actually going to be a revolt. We're going to
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01:51:37.470 --> 01:51:42.100
change it. Yeah, so you know what? That's the thing, man.
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You got to either, you know, like you got to
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care enough. And just remember, even when we're talking about,
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when I'm saying people got to care, it's a really
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01:51:52.279 --> 01:51:55.050
finite group of people. The vast majority of people don't
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even know what the fuck we're talking about. Do you
2054
01:51:57.430 --> 01:51:59.390
know what I mean? Like, they're just living their lives.
2055
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They couldn't tell you who the vice president was, maybe
2056
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not even the president. You know, they certainly couldn't tell
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you who the last president was and, you know, who
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their senator. Good luck. I, like, I watch those, like,
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men on the street interviews and, like, you know, when
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people can't pick out the state they live in and I, like, well,
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that makes me feel good. Or they can't name a
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01:52:18.729 --> 01:52:21.680
few countries, yeah. Yeah. And I'm, you know, like, Like,
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holy shit. But they can name every, you know, starting,
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the starting line of, you know, the 1986 Alabama, you know,
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01:52:30.979 --> 01:52:34.770
football squad. But, you know, like have no idea, you know,
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what we're talking about and other things. And I'm not
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saying it's because they're stupid. It's because they're led to
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believe that either it doesn't matter or they're not, we
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haven't spent the money to be able to, money, time,
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dedication to like, education to like teaching people, but that's
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a whole nother discussion. Yeah. I mean, it really is.
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I don't even want to get into that because I
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don't even, I don't even know. And here's the other
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thing sometimes I feel awful about. It's like, here I
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go out and I get to spout about all this
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stuff and I'm, you know, and I'll do whatever the,
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you know, like I say, well, what's the solution? You
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know what I mean? I wish I could come on
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here and say, and I have the answer, but I
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don't trust people who say that. Like, what the fuck
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01:53:15.859 --> 01:53:18.399
are you talking about? It's like you, I can get like,
2082
01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:21.239
I've come your way on like, you know, to have
2083
01:53:21.300 --> 01:53:23.659
things and, and, and like, we've been able to have
2084
01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:26.779
a discussion. You probably thinking you would disagree with me,
2085
01:53:27.310 --> 01:53:30.609
but I don't, I don't disagree with you. Yeah. Like
2086
01:53:30.630 --> 01:53:35.710
half the, not 90% of this really. And, um, and
2087
01:53:35.750 --> 01:53:38.670
that doesn't make for fireworks. You know, I don't know
2088
01:53:38.710 --> 01:53:39.890
how viral this one's going to go.
2089
01:53:39.909 --> 01:53:43.109
Hey, I should have brought a crack pipe and said,
2090
01:53:43.130 --> 01:53:44.550
you want to do this together?
2091
01:53:44.869 --> 01:53:47.750
Yeah, no. That would have gone viral. By the way,
2092
01:53:47.789 --> 01:53:49.689
that I would have run out of the room. Yeah. No,
2093
01:53:49.729 --> 01:53:52.529
I would never do that. Yeah. You know what? I
2094
01:53:53.149 --> 01:53:57.840
would stop you. Like, please don't. No, I would never
2095
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:00.300
do it. No, I know. I know you're joking. I
2096
01:54:00.340 --> 01:54:03.439
know you're joking. But, you know, sometimes that's the only
2097
01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:06.899
way to also get people's attention. And the other reason, like,
2098
01:54:07.199 --> 01:54:11.479
I'll talk to anybody for the purpose of it. But
2099
01:54:11.850 --> 01:54:15.189
I do believe it's worth caring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I
2100
01:54:15.189 --> 01:54:16.130
have a hard time with that one.
2101
01:54:16.350 --> 01:54:18.289
I think you asked me earlier about having kids, and
2102
01:54:18.310 --> 01:54:19.109
I'm just like, man.
2103
01:54:19.510 --> 01:54:19.770
Yeah.
2104
01:54:20.130 --> 01:54:22.649
I really want to, but as this progresses, I'm just
2105
01:54:22.670 --> 01:54:25.640
sort of like, in what world? And when I said
2106
01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:28.180
part to say, I also think that's by design.
2107
01:54:28.260 --> 01:54:32.260
Yeah. I mean, population rates, everything is. Yeah, once you
2108
01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:35.779
have the kid, you almost have to become more optimistic. Yeah.
2109
01:54:36.380 --> 01:54:38.739
You really do. Because that's the only reason. Like, what
2110
01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.930
do I, like, I'm 56. Yeah. Like I can, I can,
2111
01:54:42.489 --> 01:54:44.220
I can tough it out for the next 40 years.
2112
01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:46.760
You know what I mean? But like the, the, uh,
2113
01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:50.300
but I don't want my kids to have to, I
2114
01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:53.840
really don't. And that's why I have to believe. And
2115
01:54:53.859 --> 01:54:56.409
that's the other side of it too, is, you know,
2116
01:54:56.750 --> 01:54:59.170
like in your experience, there are more good people than
2117
01:54:59.189 --> 01:55:02.569
there are bad men. I really believe that maybe not online,
2118
01:55:02.970 --> 01:55:04.609
but in real life, when you walk down the street,
2119
01:55:05.300 --> 01:55:08.239
you know, When you, you know, when you go to
2120
01:55:08.270 --> 01:55:10.670
the repair shop and, you know, you go to the gym,
2121
01:55:11.029 --> 01:55:12.529
more good people than on their bed. It's like in
2122
01:55:12.550 --> 01:55:15.949
the gym. Yeah, every time. You always got an asshole.
2123
01:55:16.550 --> 01:55:18.510
But the vast majority of the people that you go there,
2124
01:55:18.569 --> 01:55:21.189
you become a community together. You all know each other.
2125
01:55:21.229 --> 01:55:22.710
You all look at, you know, you all got each
2126
01:55:22.750 --> 01:55:26.039
other's backs. You know, some rivalries and some guy that
2127
01:55:26.060 --> 01:55:28.760
doesn't wipe down the, you know, the bench when he
2128
01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:31.880
gets off every time. And you know what? But like
2129
01:55:32.300 --> 01:55:35.140
most people are good people. Yeah. And I think everything's
2130
01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:38.649
like a microcosm of that. I mean, I think those
2131
01:55:38.689 --> 01:55:43.340
are all microcosms of us. I really do believe that.
2132
01:55:43.899 --> 01:55:45.500
And I think that, you know, there used to be
2133
01:55:45.539 --> 01:55:49.399
those kind of places where, you know, you didn't have
2134
01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:52.319
to show your voter ID card in order to be
2135
01:55:52.380 --> 01:55:55.720
able to, you know, earn a sense of legitimacy or,
2136
01:55:56.100 --> 01:55:59.279
you know, be welcome. And you still don't. People don't,
2137
01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:02.930
you know. But we think that the other side is
2138
01:56:03.050 --> 01:56:06.710
evil and everybody is. I had one guy, a friend.
2139
01:56:07.220 --> 01:56:11.560
who's really been hurt by MAGA, like, for real. Like, really,
2140
01:56:11.619 --> 01:56:13.180
really been attacked. And I don't want to say who
2141
01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:18.159
it is, but really, like, life upended and ruined unfairly,
2142
01:56:18.310 --> 01:56:22.430
completely unfairly. And I went on, you know, Tucker. And
2143
01:56:22.449 --> 01:56:25.430
he was like, Dad, like, fuck you. Like, I think
2144
01:56:25.449 --> 01:56:29.050
I lost a friendship over it. And I said to him, like...
2145
01:56:29.399 --> 01:56:32.520
Just because you spoke to the sort of other side. Well...
2146
01:56:33.869 --> 01:56:35.609
The story of this person, and I don't want to
2147
01:56:35.649 --> 01:56:37.270
say it because it's not fair of me to say it,
2148
01:56:37.289 --> 01:56:40.100
but the story of this person is they almost took
2149
01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:43.319
his life. They ruined his life. Absolutely ruined his life.
2150
01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:48.260
And Tucker and Candace, they were all a big part
2151
01:56:48.279 --> 01:56:52.930
of it. A big part of it. And he's like,
2152
01:56:53.399 --> 01:56:58.130
Hugh Hunter? Kumbaya bullshit. I was like, look, man, if
2153
01:56:58.270 --> 01:57:00.770
anybody has earned the right to make the decision for
2154
01:57:00.810 --> 01:57:03.649
themselves of whether they're going to talk to Tucker Carlson
2155
01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:09.560
who literally did hours of documentary shows on me saying
2156
01:57:09.619 --> 01:57:13.340
I was a degenerate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's me.
2157
01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:16.850
I get to make that choice. And I always say
2158
01:57:16.890 --> 01:57:19.409
to people is that if I expect the grace of
2159
01:57:19.470 --> 01:57:26.529
their forgiveness for being a degenerate crack addict, then you
2160
01:57:26.569 --> 01:57:28.800
know what? I got to be willing to if it's sincere.
2161
01:57:28.810 --> 01:57:33.760
And Tucker's was sincere to me. He was like, I
2162
01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:34.590
f * * * ed up, man. I didn't know
2163
01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:36.619
the whole story, and it was wrong of me. Kansas
2164
01:57:36.649 --> 01:57:39.869
is the same way. That doesn't mean I agree with
2165
01:57:39.869 --> 01:57:44.710
90% of what Kansas says. Maybe not 90, maybe 70.
2166
01:57:44.710 --> 01:57:46.550
By the way, it's not 90%. It's a lot less
2167
01:57:46.569 --> 01:57:48.069
than that, but a lot of things I don't agree
2168
01:57:48.130 --> 01:57:51.930
with instead of putting percentages on it. A lot of
2169
01:57:51.949 --> 01:57:54.930
the things that Tucker did, particularly when he was at
2170
01:57:54.970 --> 01:57:57.949
Fox News, which he says that he's embarrassed, that he
2171
01:57:57.989 --> 01:58:00.859
regrets deeply. Have you ever heard that on Tucker? Have
2172
01:58:00.880 --> 01:58:02.899
you ever heard him say what he said to anybody
2173
01:58:02.979 --> 01:58:05.949
else other than me? Is that for the 10 years,
2174
01:58:06.010 --> 01:58:08.010
the 15 years that he worked at Fox News is
2175
01:58:08.050 --> 01:58:10.359
the only thing in his life that he regrets? regret
2176
01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:12.739
anything more in his life than that. Than being of
2177
01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:16.279
service to that corporate beast. No, that was the first
2178
01:58:16.300 --> 01:58:18.439
time I heard it. Yeah. And that's, I think, a
2179
01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:22.560
big deal. For me, it was. I know. Just on
2180
01:58:22.579 --> 01:58:25.750
a personal level. But to be able to, you know,
2181
01:58:26.930 --> 01:58:30.130
to be able to, like, elicit that And not in
2182
01:58:30.170 --> 01:58:32.800
a shaming way, but to go, yeah, now I get it.
2183
01:58:33.829 --> 01:58:36.789
Like he said, it was ego. It was narcissism. It
2184
01:58:36.829 --> 01:58:40.220
was money. You know what? People can relate to that.
2185
01:58:41.100 --> 01:58:44.340
That's facts. In every fucking job. Like in your industry.
2186
01:58:44.939 --> 01:58:46.460
For sure. A lot of shit that some of your
2187
01:58:47.239 --> 01:58:50.300
colleagues and peers are willing to do with sponsorships or
2188
01:58:50.380 --> 01:58:52.560
other people or guests that they have on for ego
2189
01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:55.649
and narcissism and money because we all have it. And
2190
01:58:55.689 --> 01:58:58.050
we can rationalize it. And we can do it. And
2191
01:58:58.109 --> 01:59:01.720
it's human nature. And people fuck up. Wake up the
2192
01:59:01.779 --> 01:59:04.850
next day, and if you can do this, say, I
2193
01:59:04.899 --> 01:59:09.630
fucked up. Like, radical honesty about it. Like, this is
2194
01:59:09.649 --> 01:59:12.229
the reason that I did that. You know what? Maybe
2195
01:59:12.250 --> 01:59:15.189
it was wrong. Yeah. You know? Well, it sounds like
2196
01:59:15.210 --> 01:59:17.390
you related to that, because your past, right, you fucked
2197
01:59:17.449 --> 01:59:20.710
up in certain ways, obviously. 100%. Yeah. That's my point. Yeah.
2198
01:59:21.210 --> 01:59:23.430
Is that, is it, like, I was forced into it.
2199
01:59:23.750 --> 01:59:25.750
I was forced into a radical honesty. It was either
2200
01:59:26.050 --> 01:59:29.050
radical honesty or death for me. Like I had to say, yeah,
2201
01:59:29.109 --> 01:59:31.100
I was crack at it. You know why? Because there's
2202
01:59:31.109 --> 01:59:34.739
about 462 pictures of me smoking crack. Like I didn't,
2203
01:59:35.020 --> 01:59:37.380
like it wasn't some courage on my part. I wish
2204
01:59:37.439 --> 01:59:39.119
I could say that it was some courage that I
2205
01:59:39.140 --> 01:59:40.199
woke up and I go, you know what? I'm going
2206
01:59:40.220 --> 01:59:42.399
to get real honest with you. But the truth of
2207
01:59:42.420 --> 01:59:45.619
the matter was, is that instead of going to like
2208
01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:48.539
some mountain cave with the Shaolin monk and, you know,
2209
01:59:48.680 --> 01:59:50.979
meditating for seven years and coming out and being like
2210
01:59:51.949 --> 01:59:55.529
radical honesty, you know, it was like, I either get
2211
01:59:55.569 --> 01:59:59.449
out of bed and, live in that radical honesty of
2212
01:59:59.489 --> 02:00:02.289
the front cover of the New York post or I
2213
02:00:02.329 --> 02:00:05.250
fucking stay in bed and die, you know? Yeah. And
2214
02:00:05.289 --> 02:00:07.930
so I just chose to live, which is more just
2215
02:00:08.109 --> 02:00:12.000
animal instinct than it is courage. Yeah. Yeah.
2216
02:00:12.319 --> 02:00:14.180
Changing topics a little bit. What do you think your
2217
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:15.319
favorite conspiracy is?
2218
02:00:15.979 --> 02:00:20.779
Okay. So here's, if you've ever read a book called,
2219
02:00:21.079 --> 02:00:22.890
you got to read a book called the devil's chessboard.
2220
02:00:23.439 --> 02:00:25.560
And maybe I shouldn't recommend that to you. It's just
2221
02:00:25.579 --> 02:00:28.850
going to fucking take you down a fucking rabbit hole.
2222
02:00:29.100 --> 02:00:31.350
You're going to get so much darker than you already are.
2223
02:00:32.829 --> 02:00:36.710
Alan Dulles, who was like the second head of the CIA,
2224
02:00:37.029 --> 02:00:40.170
and his brother, John Foster Dulles, was the Secretary of State.
2225
02:00:40.890 --> 02:00:44.729
The two of them, but particularly Alan, were incredibly, incredibly
2226
02:00:44.770 --> 02:00:49.750
powerful people. And Alan Dulles was the architect of the
2227
02:00:49.810 --> 02:00:55.659
modern CIA. And Post-World War II. And he's the guy
2228
02:00:55.680 --> 02:00:59.180
that protected all the top Nazis. He actually literally flew
2229
02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:03.100
and gathered them up because he and his brother were
2230
02:01:03.140 --> 02:01:06.720
making millions and millions of dollars as lawyers for the
2231
02:01:06.760 --> 02:01:08.800
people that were funding the Nazi party in the German
2232
02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:12.220
industrial state before the war started. They were out and out,
2233
02:01:12.600 --> 02:01:17.439
like pro-Hitler. And they ended up running the CIA. He
2234
02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:25.970
ends up running the CIA. And hate it. Kennedy. Hated Kennedy. Now,
2235
02:01:26.170 --> 02:01:30.130
I'm not saying that, but if you read this book,
2236
02:01:30.369 --> 02:01:35.020
it's very difficult to walk away and not think that
2237
02:01:35.060 --> 02:01:42.199
the CIA, maybe not directly, but by virtue of things
2238
02:01:42.840 --> 02:01:48.439
in individuals that they set into motion, ended up being
2239
02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:55.350
related to and have a causal effect for the assassination
2240
02:01:55.359 --> 02:01:59.369
of JFK. I do believe that. There's a thing in
2241
02:01:59.770 --> 02:02:02.149
law school that you learn in torts. Torts is like
2242
02:02:02.210 --> 02:02:04.430
civil law, like when you shoot somebody, if you get hurt.
2243
02:02:04.689 --> 02:02:07.409
And so there's a thing called the Paul's graph test.
2244
02:02:07.930 --> 02:02:12.260
The Paul's graph test is this, is that somebody does
2245
02:02:12.319 --> 02:02:17.300
something and somewhere along the line, an injury occurs. And
2246
02:02:17.319 --> 02:02:21.119
I forget the exact example. Paul's graph, the plaintiff was,
2247
02:02:21.300 --> 02:02:23.810
he was, he, He got injured by a train pulling
2248
02:02:23.850 --> 02:02:26.430
into a station. And so the question was, was it
2249
02:02:26.470 --> 02:02:31.109
the engineer? Or was it the conductor who pulled the
2250
02:02:31.149 --> 02:02:33.109
thing that did this, that, and the other? And you've
2251
02:02:33.130 --> 02:02:35.310
got to do this series of tests. Like, how far
2252
02:02:35.380 --> 02:02:41.600
down the line can you attribute cause to the injury
2253
02:02:41.659 --> 02:02:44.720
that happened? Yeah. I don't know how far down the
2254
02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:48.810
line Alan Dulles is in the CIA to the assassination
2255
02:02:48.850 --> 02:02:51.739
of Kennedy, but they're in the line somewhere. I mean,
2256
02:02:51.760 --> 02:02:54.859
you can't walk away from the actual evidence and the
2257
02:02:54.899 --> 02:02:58.390
facts of everything leading up to that without coming to
2258
02:02:58.399 --> 02:03:02.989
the conclusion that in some way or another, we set
2259
02:03:03.029 --> 02:03:07.710
into motion ourselves within our government the assassination of Kennedy
2260
02:03:08.229 --> 02:03:12.510
to allow it to happen. Yeah. I wonder why. Bay
2261
02:03:12.609 --> 02:03:15.760
of Pigs, he wanted to dismantle the CIA. He and
2262
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:18.640
his brother JFK hated the CIA and hated what they
2263
02:03:18.659 --> 02:03:22.039
were doing. They had amassed so much power outside of
2264
02:03:22.060 --> 02:03:26.140
the constitutional authority of the executive that he was like this.
2265
02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:28.319
They're the ones that gave him bad information on the
2266
02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:32.479
Bay of Pigs, almost caused the annihilation of the Earth
2267
02:03:32.550 --> 02:03:40.229
with the nuclear embargo when the Russians were sending nuclear
2268
02:03:40.270 --> 02:03:45.310
missiles to Cuba, and the Cuban Missile Crisis and all that.
2269
02:03:45.470 --> 02:03:49.510
And so Kennedy blamed them for for all of the
2270
02:03:49.850 --> 02:03:52.010
bad intel that they had given about how they could
2271
02:03:52.050 --> 02:03:55.210
take out Castro. There's so many conspiracies around that one,
2272
02:03:55.229 --> 02:03:59.409
specifically JFK. Yeah. So that's all I'm saying, though. I'm
2273
02:03:59.449 --> 02:04:03.430
not saying, but I'm saying that it's hard to not
2274
02:04:03.489 --> 02:04:09.729
walk away. Which opens you up to this other question.
2275
02:04:10.310 --> 02:04:13.289
Do I think there are feds? No, but do I
2276
02:04:13.329 --> 02:04:15.229
think that there are parts of the federal government and
2277
02:04:15.250 --> 02:04:18.850
the CIA in particular and other agencies that most people
2278
02:04:18.890 --> 02:04:22.930
don't know what the acronyms for the initials are that
2279
02:04:23.109 --> 02:04:29.590
are using cutouts to influence people in the media? 100%. Yeah. 100%.
2280
02:04:29.590 --> 02:04:31.850
And that's why I like listening to John Cariocco because
2281
02:04:32.289 --> 02:04:36.310
he explains that at a granular detail, like how it works,
2282
02:04:36.380 --> 02:04:38.380
like what they do, how they do it. And he
2283
02:04:38.420 --> 02:04:41.960
always points out what I believe is like nobody's stupid
2284
02:04:42.000 --> 02:04:45.979
enough like to be direct. It's not like, you know,
2285
02:04:46.939 --> 02:04:49.479
by the way, other than Pete Hakeseth, who's decided to
2286
02:04:49.520 --> 02:04:51.289
pay a bunch of influencers that, you know, out of
2287
02:04:51.329 --> 02:04:55.909
the DOD budget to chill for the, the new department
2288
02:04:55.930 --> 02:05:00.369
of war. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. This is my, what,
2289
02:05:00.670 --> 02:05:03.369
I mean, bro, one of mine is probably the alien thing.
2290
02:05:03.430 --> 02:05:04.670
I feel like that's going to be the last thing,
2291
02:05:04.770 --> 02:05:06.960
the last card they pull before like it all implodes.
2292
02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:12.310
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know what to believe.
2293
02:05:12.560 --> 02:05:15.439
You never asked your dad about the aliens? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2294
02:05:15.779 --> 02:05:20.140
I feel like he got to know something. No, I
2295
02:05:20.180 --> 02:05:23.159
promise you. Look, I've known my dad well enough for
2296
02:05:23.479 --> 02:05:26.140
my whole 56 years. He wouldn't be able to not
2297
02:05:26.199 --> 02:05:30.750
have a, you know, but not even a thing. I
2298
02:05:30.770 --> 02:05:32.729
think they're hiding it from us. They're hiding it from
2299
02:05:33.109 --> 02:05:35.890
the president because there's no way that, you know, I mean,
2300
02:05:35.930 --> 02:05:37.550
I know Bill. You know how much Bill Clinton talks?
2301
02:05:38.210 --> 02:05:40.149
I mean, literally, you put him in a room, he
2302
02:05:40.710 --> 02:05:43.869
talks more than me, my dad, and when my brother
2303
02:05:43.909 --> 02:05:49.060
was alive together, and we talk a lot. There's no way. Now,
2304
02:05:49.649 --> 02:05:53.939
that doesn't mean that someone, but here, you know, what's
2305
02:05:53.979 --> 02:06:03.680
his name? The scientist, I love him. What's his name? Tyson? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2306
02:06:04.340 --> 02:06:10.180
He's like, no. He makes the point that you don't
2307
02:06:10.220 --> 02:06:17.020
understand how vast this universe is. It's impossible to conceive.
2308
02:06:17.960 --> 02:06:20.600
What is it? You take all the grains of sand
2309
02:06:20.819 --> 02:06:24.880
in the world, and they still don't equal the number
2310
02:06:24.920 --> 02:06:28.399
of suns, not just planets, the number of stars, and
2311
02:06:28.420 --> 02:06:36.050
not just planets. And that if an alien... aliens had
2312
02:06:36.210 --> 02:06:39.250
the capacity to come and visit us. They would clearly
2313
02:06:39.289 --> 02:06:40.949
have the capacity for us not to be able to
2314
02:06:40.989 --> 02:06:44.479
see them. Right. And, like, it would have to be
2315
02:06:44.739 --> 02:06:50.260
such an advanced level of technology that the idea that
2316
02:06:50.340 --> 02:06:52.000
the only way that we were able to see them
2317
02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:55.569
is because, you know, some guy in a 35 millimeter
2318
02:06:55.670 --> 02:06:58.510
film camera just caught a shaky thing or it's the
2319
02:06:58.550 --> 02:07:01.159
black and white from the, from the nose of an F-16,
2320
02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:05.600
you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I just feel
2321
02:07:05.619 --> 02:07:06.680
like we did all this before.
2322
02:07:06.699 --> 02:07:08.720
Because, you know, the world's been destroyed, like, what, I
2323
02:07:08.760 --> 02:07:09.619
think it's like five times.
2324
02:07:09.659 --> 02:07:15.279
Okay, like, you're Graham, what's his name? Platner? Not Platner. Graham,
2325
02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:19.039
the guy that's on Rogan all the time, the historian
2326
02:07:19.239 --> 02:07:21.579
that has, like, the alternate history. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2327
02:07:21.619 --> 02:07:25.119
He does the Netflix show. Yeah, yeah. I love that shit.
2328
02:07:25.520 --> 02:07:28.079
I think that's it. I think we've done this before.
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02:07:28.119 --> 02:07:30.039
We got to a point. By the way. Some people
2330
02:07:30.079 --> 02:07:33.279
got away, and they became a different sort of... I
2331
02:07:33.380 --> 02:07:36.989
do not... I think so, too. I mean, I think
2332
02:07:37.050 --> 02:07:39.829
that if there's any... And I don't think that it
2333
02:07:39.850 --> 02:07:42.789
was aliens. I think that probably that it's the... No,
2334
02:07:42.810 --> 02:07:44.930
I think it was us. Yeah, us.
2335
02:07:44.949 --> 02:07:48.109
Like, we're talking about the AI advancing so much that
2336
02:07:48.430 --> 02:07:51.210
we implant a chip, and we're going in that direction,
2337
02:07:51.270 --> 02:07:53.449
and then it's just like, all right, we have enough technology.
2338
02:07:53.489 --> 02:07:54.050
We're gone.
2339
02:07:54.189 --> 02:07:57.029
This place is gone. Then they're coming back and being like,
2340
02:07:57.329 --> 02:07:58.869
look at these idiots. They're doing the same.
2341
02:07:59.399 --> 02:08:01.229
I love thinking about that. that in the context of
2342
02:08:01.310 --> 02:08:03.470
our philosophy. I don't know if you've ever read the,
2343
02:08:03.630 --> 02:08:08.479
it's the Upanishads, like the Bhagavad Gita and, you know,
2344
02:08:08.500 --> 02:08:12.140
like 35, 100 year old scripture. I've seen things. I'll
2345
02:08:12.159 --> 02:08:15.920
send you the, it's like, I mean, it's all the
2346
02:08:15.960 --> 02:08:19.739
perennial philosophy. You realize that throughout all of history, basically
2347
02:08:19.880 --> 02:08:21.760
all of the deep religions, all of the great world's
2348
02:08:21.800 --> 02:08:25.020
religions and faiths have said the same, almost exact thing
2349
02:08:25.199 --> 02:08:27.479
over and over and over again. Yeah. Is that we
2350
02:08:27.600 --> 02:08:33.369
are all, basically, we're all one thing. Like there's a literal,
2351
02:08:34.649 --> 02:08:38.170
not only physically, but metaphysically, we're like all one thing.
2352
02:08:38.770 --> 02:08:44.189
And about consciousness and things like that. But anyway, my
2353
02:08:44.229 --> 02:08:49.649
point is that It makes you realize you read these
2354
02:08:49.710 --> 02:08:54.510
texts thousands of years before a Bible was ever conceived
2355
02:08:54.569 --> 02:08:57.270
or written. And it's the same exact ideas. And then
2356
02:08:57.289 --> 02:09:02.729
you find the place in Turkey, Tegliatepe, that they can't explain.
2357
02:09:08.670 --> 02:09:11.689
It's way older than the pyramids. It's way older. Have
2358
02:09:11.750 --> 02:09:14.489
you seen that guy that was just on Sean Ryan?
2359
02:09:14.569 --> 02:09:16.659
He said, you know, there are more pyramids in North
2360
02:09:16.720 --> 02:09:24.760
America than anywhere in the Middle East. And larger. But
2361
02:09:25.060 --> 02:09:28.890
they're finding them through LIDAR. Like these giant pyramids. Like
2362
02:09:29.010 --> 02:09:32.329
Aztec stuff? Yeah, but in North America. Like in New
2363
02:09:32.430 --> 02:09:37.899
Orleans and up the Mississippi. These giant pyramids. Completely changes.
2364
02:09:37.979 --> 02:09:41.789
LIDAR like surveying under. Yes, exactly. So there's this guy called,
2365
02:09:42.489 --> 02:09:44.630
I think it's like LIDAR America or something like that.
2366
02:09:44.649 --> 02:09:47.090
It's like a Facebook page in which he goes and
2367
02:09:47.109 --> 02:09:51.760
he maps these giant pyramid structures that are all up
2368
02:09:51.800 --> 02:09:54.979
and down the Americas, including here in North America.
2369
02:09:55.520 --> 02:09:58.199
Yeah, well, like you said, you kind of talked about
2370
02:09:58.220 --> 02:10:00.380
the consciousness thing. And I kind of mentioned earlier, I
2371
02:10:00.420 --> 02:10:01.930
think that's what all of this is sort of a,
2372
02:10:01.960 --> 02:10:08.560
I don't know, a corralling of. our actual collective consciousness.
2373
02:10:08.659 --> 02:10:10.840
I think all of this like negative, everything is to
2374
02:10:10.859 --> 02:10:14.039
keep everyone at a certain point because I think truly
2375
02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:16.600
that's the most powerful thing that as a, as a
2376
02:10:18.090 --> 02:10:21.949
creature we have is our ability to create what exists.
2377
02:10:23.090 --> 02:10:25.569
Cause you got to think beyond what God created in
2378
02:10:25.590 --> 02:10:29.069
my perspective, right? The earth, he created us. Then I
2379
02:10:29.130 --> 02:10:29.510
do agree.
2380
02:10:29.529 --> 02:10:30.090
We're all one.
2381
02:10:30.189 --> 02:10:32.560
And I do agree that that collective consciousness and our
2382
02:10:32.600 --> 02:10:34.500
ability to make the world what we want it to be.
2383
02:10:35.529 --> 02:10:37.960
Is why everything actually exists. I mean, truly, I mean,
2384
02:10:37.979 --> 02:10:39.539
you think about it on a small scale, right?
2385
02:10:39.560 --> 02:10:42.340
Like me creating like this company or me creating like
2386
02:10:42.859 --> 02:10:46.520
this being, someone creating these hands. It starts with an idea.
2387
02:10:47.119 --> 02:10:48.899
It starts with that, oh, I can make this possible.
2388
02:10:49.020 --> 02:10:51.590
This is your consciousness. Whether it's subconscious because you've been
2389
02:10:51.609 --> 02:10:53.789
thinking about it or it's conscious because you're actively doing it.
2390
02:10:54.890 --> 02:10:58.250
That is the driving force of humanity.
2391
02:10:58.930 --> 02:11:01.449
And I think all this sort of like, you know,
2392
02:11:01.550 --> 02:11:04.079
algorithm plug-in that we're sort of a part of now,
2393
02:11:05.220 --> 02:11:09.279
without really any say because like everything is it's been
2394
02:11:09.300 --> 02:11:12.060
sort of like marketed to us as the new the
2395
02:11:12.100 --> 02:11:14.069
new iphone the new this the new that like you
2396
02:11:14.109 --> 02:11:16.909
got to update you got to do this it's slowly
2397
02:11:17.029 --> 02:11:20.789
corralling our consciousness to wherever i think the people who
2398
02:11:20.850 --> 02:11:23.430
are way way up here way above our pay grade
2399
02:11:24.130 --> 02:11:27.229
are the ones who are like aware super aware somehow
2400
02:11:28.079 --> 02:11:30.699
that that's why this exists that's why everything exists so
2401
02:11:30.720 --> 02:11:33.600
you if you can control and capture this consciousness you
2402
02:11:33.619 --> 02:11:36.520
can control and capture movement of money movement of anything
2403
02:11:37.119 --> 02:11:40.250
and i think like that's the real psyop is like
2404
02:11:40.289 --> 02:11:43.510
how do we get people to all think what we
2405
02:11:43.550 --> 02:11:45.630
want them to think because if they do that that's
2406
02:11:45.649 --> 02:11:48.770
what exists i think truly that's what all this is
2407
02:11:48.810 --> 02:11:52.069
about without a doubt and i think when i talked
2408
02:11:52.090 --> 02:11:53.590
about the alien thing i think it was like a
2409
02:11:54.029 --> 02:11:56.949
maybe some sort of version coming back and being like
2410
02:11:57.630 --> 02:11:59.510
oh yeah, you know, this is the most powerful tool.
2411
02:11:59.909 --> 02:12:02.069
And then the people taking it and taking it to
2412
02:12:02.090 --> 02:12:05.409
this crazy ass level that we've gotten it now and just.
2413
02:12:05.310 --> 02:12:07.020
Sort of doing whatever they want with it.
2414
02:12:07.770 --> 02:12:09.909
And that's why I think it feels so evil sometimes
2415
02:12:09.949 --> 02:12:11.989
because I don't think it's from a place of good
2416
02:12:12.029 --> 02:12:13.729
for a majority of people. It's for a place of
2417
02:12:13.770 --> 02:12:15.500
good of a very few number of people.
2418
02:12:16.600 --> 02:12:19.359
I think that's why we're here. I think it's the
2419
02:12:19.399 --> 02:12:20.600
consciousness and our ability to create.
2420
02:12:20.619 --> 02:12:24.539
Because you got to think like in life, what.
2421
02:12:25.739 --> 02:12:30.649
What are the most powerful emotions? What do you think
2422
02:12:30.670 --> 02:12:33.750
are the most powerful emotions? Love and hate? Yes. And
2423
02:12:33.770 --> 02:12:35.430
that's why I think good and evil. Yeah.
2424
02:12:35.890 --> 02:12:38.029
And it seems like just based on if we're looking
2425
02:12:38.069 --> 02:12:41.310
at our world, there's obviously a lot of good. But
2426
02:12:41.350 --> 02:12:43.670
it seems like we've just constantly over the years, it's
2427
02:12:43.689 --> 02:12:45.930
got deeper and deeper into the hate side, into the
2428
02:12:45.949 --> 02:12:46.470
dark side.
2429
02:12:46.489 --> 02:12:49.710
But don't you see a cyclist? It does, but it
2430
02:12:49.869 --> 02:12:50.930
goes in the same direction.
2431
02:12:50.989 --> 02:12:53.710
It cycles with different sort of topics or pain points
2432
02:12:53.789 --> 02:12:57.550
or like things, you know, words, say, for example, immigration
2433
02:12:57.590 --> 02:13:00.390
or religion or their religion versus my religion. I think
2434
02:13:00.409 --> 02:13:02.569
this goes way further. Like we were just talking about
2435
02:13:02.609 --> 02:13:04.989
like pyramids that have been here, scriptures or things that
2436
02:13:05.010 --> 02:13:07.289
people have thought for thousands of years before these things
2437
02:13:07.310 --> 02:13:09.189
that we go, the Quran, the Torah, you know, these
2438
02:13:09.229 --> 02:13:09.829
are 3000 years old, 4000, 2000, right?
2439
02:13:09.850 --> 02:13:10.210
It's been a thing.
2440
02:13:15.229 --> 02:13:17.970
It's this, this idea of like this collective consciousness. I
2441
02:13:17.989 --> 02:13:20.569
think it's been a thing. And, and, and I think
2442
02:13:20.670 --> 02:13:28.680
this movement towards the negative, it's some people thing moving
2443
02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:29.020
it there.
2444
02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:33.699
Yeah. Have you, um, have you ever talked to Chase Hughes? No.
2445
02:13:34.399 --> 02:13:37.140
You should really talk to him. Have you ever taken mushrooms? Yeah.
2446
02:13:37.600 --> 02:13:40.840
I love mushrooms. I've done, I've done, I did, uh,
2447
02:13:41.689 --> 02:13:44.779
I did Ibogaine. I did... You ever done ayahuasca? Yeah,
2448
02:13:44.800 --> 02:13:46.920
I've done ayahuasca. I've done it three times. Oh, dude, I'm...
2449
02:13:47.439 --> 02:13:51.119
Somebody keeps urging me that there's a really, really reputable place,
2450
02:13:51.140 --> 02:14:00.119
I think, in Costa Rica. Costa Rica. Yeah, that is...
2451
02:13:58.149 --> 02:14:02.449
I've just, you know, being an addict... And by the way,
2452
02:14:02.529 --> 02:14:05.550
I don't have any inclination as it relates to psychotropic
2453
02:14:05.569 --> 02:14:07.670
drugs in any way. And I think that they're the
2454
02:14:07.729 --> 02:14:09.850
least addictive thing that you could possibly do. I mean,
2455
02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:14.100
I did 5-MeO-3 and the actual toad venom after I
2456
02:14:14.180 --> 02:14:20.550
did Ibogaine. Yeah. Those are intense. Yeah. No. Holy shit.
2457
02:14:20.659 --> 02:14:24.909
But it was the most profound experience of my, one
2458
02:14:24.930 --> 02:14:27.579
of the most profound experiences of my life. And it
2459
02:14:27.600 --> 02:14:30.000
probably lasted 10 minutes. I didn't know if it was
2460
02:14:30.000 --> 02:14:32.180
10 minutes or 10 days in the midst of doing it.
2461
02:14:33.880 --> 02:14:38.409
And it was profound. But I never had this desire
2462
02:14:38.449 --> 02:14:40.010
to go back and do it. You know what I mean?
2463
02:14:40.050 --> 02:14:44.590
Like you do with cocaine or crack. Yeah, those are
2464
02:14:44.609 --> 02:14:49.060
more those dopamine hits that are crazy. But Chase Hughes,
2465
02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:53.810
I think is probably... He did Intervenous... And he writes
2466
02:14:53.869 --> 02:14:57.409
about it, and he talks about it. Interviewed his 5MEO3
2467
02:14:57.609 --> 02:15:00.149
for the longest that anyone, I think, ever has done it.
2468
02:15:01.310 --> 02:15:04.409
And he had this incredible story of his own brain
2469
02:15:04.449 --> 02:15:10.359
disease that he had. Anyway, you should look up Chase Hughes.
2470
02:15:10.539 --> 02:15:17.840
He's a former kind of intelligence operator, profiler, really, really,
2471
02:15:17.899 --> 02:15:21.729
really smart, really, really deep thinker on this level and
2472
02:15:21.810 --> 02:15:24.850
talks about it as articulately as I've ever heard anybody
2473
02:15:24.890 --> 02:15:27.069
talk about it. But it's also like a real guy
2474
02:15:27.109 --> 02:15:31.539
with real life experience. It's really cool. But he talks about,
2475
02:15:31.560 --> 02:15:35.300
he first went down with 5MEO3 and, you know, those
2476
02:15:35.340 --> 02:15:38.359
laser experiments that that guy figured out where they would
2477
02:15:38.420 --> 02:15:43.029
see the, like the architecture of the, quote unquote, the matrix. Right.
2478
02:15:43.850 --> 02:15:50.470
Really fascinating stuff. Really fascinating stuff. And, you know, I
2479
02:15:50.510 --> 02:15:52.850
find all of that fascinating. I read about it all
2480
02:15:52.890 --> 02:15:58.670
the time. And I'm not just talking about psychotropics, but
2481
02:15:58.710 --> 02:16:03.970
philosophy and history and how they intersect and all of
2482
02:16:04.029 --> 02:16:06.350
the things that you were just talking about, about consciousness.
2483
02:16:06.470 --> 02:16:08.600
I don't think that there's any new idea under the sun.
2484
02:16:08.649 --> 02:16:10.539
So what people talk about today in terms of the
2485
02:16:10.579 --> 02:16:13.720
matrix is, I mean, literally, you could read about it
2486
02:16:13.819 --> 02:16:18.199
in the Upanishads. It's this idea that this is a design.
2487
02:16:20.300 --> 02:16:24.960
This is a and and that there is a that
2488
02:16:24.979 --> 02:16:30.439
there is a designer and that anyway, it's it's it's
2489
02:16:30.560 --> 02:16:32.909
fascinating to me. I've written a lot about it, too,
2490
02:16:33.100 --> 02:16:37.370
on my sub stack. And and and so it's it's really,
2491
02:16:37.750 --> 02:16:40.590
really fascinating. What's the name again? Can you write this down?
2492
02:16:41.309 --> 02:16:45.680
Chase Hughes. And he's obviously alive. Oh, yeah, no, Chase
2493
02:16:45.719 --> 02:16:48.579
is out. Get him. You should do it. Yeah, I
2494
02:16:48.620 --> 02:16:50.100
would love to talk to him. Yeah, he just wrote
2495
02:16:50.139 --> 02:16:56.469
a book about, anyway, you should do it. I found
2496
02:16:56.549 --> 02:16:58.409
somebody that knew him and picked up the phone and
2497
02:16:58.440 --> 02:17:01.530
just said, I love what you do. And I've talked
2498
02:17:01.549 --> 02:17:03.069
to him on text a couple times, but I have
2499
02:17:03.129 --> 02:17:05.229
no other relationship with him than that, that I watch
2500
02:17:05.270 --> 02:17:08.129
him all the time. He says this one thing, which
2501
02:17:08.149 --> 02:17:11.709
I think is one of the most profound things, because
2502
02:17:11.750 --> 02:17:14.930
it resonated so much with me. He said, what is
2503
02:17:14.989 --> 02:17:22.020
the single most used phrase and word in the Bible,
2504
02:17:22.079 --> 02:17:24.719
the Koran, the Torah, which is part of the Bible?
2505
02:17:24.739 --> 02:17:28.239
What do you think it is? It's do not fear.
2506
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:35.649
And his point about it is that fear is literally
2507
02:17:36.090 --> 02:17:40.389
the controlling factor in almost everything that we do. And
2508
02:17:40.450 --> 02:17:45.579
it's fear of outcomes, fear of being found out, fear of,
2509
02:17:45.579 --> 02:17:49.770
you know, it's always our decision, many of our decisions
2510
02:17:51.290 --> 02:17:53.729
particularly the ones I know in my life, I'll speak
2511
02:17:53.750 --> 02:17:57.870
for myself, the ones that I regret are the ones
2512
02:17:57.950 --> 02:18:01.340
that I made out of fear. Fear of not having enough,
2513
02:18:01.760 --> 02:18:04.430
fear of being left out, fear of not making it,
2514
02:18:04.540 --> 02:18:09.549
fear of being found out, fear of, you know, Fear of,
2515
02:18:10.700 --> 02:18:13.079
you know, just keep going down the list. Yeah. And
2516
02:18:13.120 --> 02:18:14.600
thinking of all the things. And, you know, I mean,
2517
02:18:14.680 --> 02:18:18.260
it's like in the gym. Like not trying because, you know,
2518
02:18:18.340 --> 02:18:20.879
you don't say it's because you're afraid, but, you know. Yeah.
2519
02:18:20.940 --> 02:18:22.979
You're afraid to live that weight or you're afraid to, like,
2520
02:18:23.040 --> 02:18:25.840
you know, like sign up for that competition or you're afraid,
2521
02:18:25.940 --> 02:18:30.840
you know. I mean, all of the things that are
2522
02:18:31.100 --> 02:18:35.360
all come from fear. And fear is totally an illusion. Right.
2523
02:18:35.420 --> 02:18:39.479
It is always literally an illusion. There's fear of. The
2524
02:18:39.520 --> 02:18:42.620
tiger that's in, you know, in the bushes. You know
2525
02:18:42.639 --> 02:18:45.329
what I mean? But, like, that's not the fear they're
2526
02:18:45.350 --> 02:18:48.350
talking about. It's all of that other fear that drives
2527
02:18:48.530 --> 02:18:49.809
everything that we do. Yeah.
2528
02:18:50.229 --> 02:18:52.069
Well, dude, like I was saying earlier, go back to
2529
02:18:52.090 --> 02:18:54.600
the ideas of love and hate. Fear kind of lags
2530
02:18:54.639 --> 02:18:55.200
on hate, right?
2531
02:18:55.360 --> 02:18:56.420
Yeah. And then if you think.
2532
02:18:56.299 --> 02:18:59.260
About that, like I said, this coercion of consciousness.
2533
02:18:59.540 --> 02:18:59.659
Yeah.
2534
02:18:59.879 --> 02:19:01.920
You think about all the things that we've done, right?
2535
02:19:02.049 --> 02:19:06.129
The fear of COVID fear, the war, fear of Muslims,
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fear of.
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This religion versus that religion. Fear of other. It's all...
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That's what I'm saying.
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I believe the people who are here are tapped into
2540
02:19:13.379 --> 02:19:17.040
the knowing of this is the massive mover.
2541
02:19:17.100 --> 02:19:20.360
Here's what I think, though, dude, is that there are...
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02:19:20.899 --> 02:19:23.219
These people over here that are on the love side.
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02:19:23.360 --> 02:19:25.520
I think that there are warriors for good. I think
2544
02:19:25.540 --> 02:19:27.520
that there are people. I think that it is a
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02:19:27.559 --> 02:19:30.100
collective people. And it is not whether they're above or
2546
02:19:30.159 --> 02:19:33.850
below anybody else. I think collectively together there are people
2547
02:19:33.909 --> 02:19:36.909
that want what is best for this world. And best
2548
02:19:36.950 --> 02:19:39.090
for their, not just, and it starts with their family.
2549
02:19:39.110 --> 02:19:40.809
They want what's best for their family. They want what's
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02:19:40.850 --> 02:19:43.180
best for their community. They want what's best for their neighbors.
2551
02:19:43.239 --> 02:19:47.530
And their neighbors may extend out to... what's best for Palestinians,
2552
02:19:47.569 --> 02:19:49.770
what's best for Israelis. And I know now I'm sounding
2553
02:19:49.829 --> 02:19:53.530
truly like Kumbaya, but I do believe, I do believe
2554
02:19:53.590 --> 02:19:56.930
that it is ultimately about good versus evil. And I
2555
02:19:57.010 --> 02:20:01.049
believe in the good. I absolutely believe in the good.
2556
02:20:01.930 --> 02:20:03.709
And you asked me at the very beginning of this,
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02:20:04.250 --> 02:20:08.520
why are you doing this? Not because I can change
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02:20:08.559 --> 02:20:10.319
any of it, but you know what? I want to
2559
02:20:10.360 --> 02:20:12.680
stand up and be counted for on the side of
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02:20:12.700 --> 02:20:18.340
the good. Let me actually try. Just try. Yeah. Just try. Okay.
2561
02:20:18.360 --> 02:20:21.299
So I got to throw this in here. I saw,
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02:20:21.440 --> 02:20:23.639
I saw a clip of you saying this and I
2563
02:20:23.680 --> 02:20:24.500
have to address it.
2564
02:20:24.520 --> 02:20:28.399
Okay. Yeah. You said you were 48.5% gay. What? So
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02:20:28.420 --> 02:20:35.209
that means there's like half the time. Dude, dude, dude.
2566
02:20:35.610 --> 02:20:40.110
I was sitting, um, uh, Oh God. With, um, I'm sorry.
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02:20:40.649 --> 02:20:43.969
I just, I had to do it. Yeah. Luke, Luke Beasley,
2568
02:20:44.090 --> 02:20:47.049
who's a wonderful guy. He's funny as shit. And he said, okay,
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02:20:47.090 --> 02:20:48.309
this is what we're going to do at the beginning
2570
02:20:48.350 --> 02:20:51.309
of this. It's going to be like between two ferns,
2571
02:20:52.219 --> 02:20:54.139
you know, like the, with, uh, you know, that, that
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02:20:54.180 --> 02:20:56.219
show between two ferns. And he said, I'm going to
2573
02:20:56.239 --> 02:20:58.700
throw all this stuff at you. And I said, It's like,
2574
02:20:58.780 --> 02:21:00.520
and here's what I want you to say. Don't show
2575
02:21:00.540 --> 02:21:01.920
me what you want me to say. I'll just say it.
2576
02:21:02.100 --> 02:21:05.100
And when he asked that question, I was like, yeah,
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02:21:05.180 --> 02:21:08.569
I'm 48.5%. And then it went viral. I think across
2578
02:21:08.590 --> 02:21:12.889
the whole LGBTQ community was like, Hunter Biden is 48.5% gay.
2579
02:21:12.909 --> 02:21:16.209
Yeah, because that means like half the time.
2580
02:21:16.229 --> 02:21:19.569
Yeah, exactly. Pretty much. No, 0% of the time. So
2581
02:21:19.590 --> 02:21:22.350
it's a troll. No, I was just joking. Okay, cool.
2582
02:21:22.370 --> 02:21:24.049
All right. You never thought about it? But you know what?
2583
02:21:24.409 --> 02:21:27.440
I never thought about it. Have I? No. Not even
2584
02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:30.600
on the crack days? No, not even on the crack days. Wow, okay. Yeah, no,
2585
02:21:30.959 --> 02:21:34.639
not on the crack days. I'm 100%, but I'm 100%
2586
02:21:34.639 --> 02:21:40.559
an advocate for the community. One of the things is
2587
02:21:40.940 --> 02:21:43.719
my daughter, Maisie, who's one of the most amazing artists
2588
02:21:43.780 --> 02:21:47.000
and human beings in the world, and she's proudly gay,
2589
02:21:47.260 --> 02:21:50.329
and she said to me, Dad, you never talk about it.
2590
02:21:50.329 --> 02:21:53.010
One of the things that people don't realize, if you're
2591
02:21:53.049 --> 02:21:56.139
my age, 56, Our kind of civil rights movement was
2592
02:21:56.159 --> 02:22:01.180
the LGBT, at that time, community. And the reason is
2593
02:22:01.239 --> 02:22:03.659
because my friends, when they wanted to come out, they
2594
02:22:03.680 --> 02:22:08.379
didn't until in their 30s because of the shame and
2595
02:22:08.420 --> 02:22:10.520
ridicule that they would be put through. And so guys
2596
02:22:10.559 --> 02:22:14.569
your age don't, like, really recognize how hard it was
2597
02:22:14.629 --> 02:22:19.569
for people to live openly and be themselves. And so... Anyway,
2598
02:22:19.709 --> 02:22:22.200
it's something that I care about. And so I don't
2599
02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:25.760
mind the community thinking that I'm 48.5%, but the truth
2600
02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:29.799
is I'm 0%. Okay, fair. All right. I'm glad we
2601
02:22:29.819 --> 02:22:32.819
cleared it up. Yeah. By the way, the interesting last question,
2602
02:22:32.879 --> 02:22:35.489
I will tell you that. Yeah, I had to throw
2603
02:22:35.500 --> 02:22:39.149
that in there. So I appreciate your time, man. That
2604
02:22:39.170 --> 02:22:43.389
was awesome. Yeah. Thanks, man. Really good. Yeah, really, really good. Yeah,
2605
02:22:43.409 --> 02:22:46.739
so you're doing like social media full time now? That's
2606
02:22:46.780 --> 02:22:51.420
your thing? So right now, Peak Path Health is a
2607
02:22:51.819 --> 02:22:54.559
rehab that I'm associated with here in LA. But what
2608
02:22:54.579 --> 02:22:56.579
I'm starting is a foundation. It's called the Peak Path
2609
02:22:56.600 --> 02:22:58.979
Health Foundation. And what we're trying to do is build
2610
02:22:59.280 --> 02:23:03.860
a free aftercare for people that can't afford after they
2611
02:23:03.899 --> 02:23:05.729
get out of their 30 days. I think the biggest
2612
02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:11.200
gap is in what happens then. Most people... don't have
2613
02:23:11.239 --> 02:23:13.079
the means or the, or the ability, they have to
2614
02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:15.440
go back to whatever situation they're in. So I'm trying
2615
02:23:15.459 --> 02:23:18.639
to build a, uh, modeled off some really good programs.
2616
02:23:19.120 --> 02:23:20.719
What are the, so what are the main social media
2617
02:23:20.739 --> 02:23:22.940
thing they could find you on Twitter? You can find
2618
02:23:22.959 --> 02:23:25.100
me on, uh, yeah, you can find me on X.
2619
02:23:25.170 --> 02:23:26.909
You can find me, uh, go to sub stack, go
2620
02:23:26.930 --> 02:23:28.590
to my sub stack. That's the coolest thing. And you
2621
02:23:28.610 --> 02:23:32.409
can go look at my art at hunter Biden.com. Oh yeah.
2622
02:23:32.909 --> 02:23:35.370
I paint every day. I mean, I, if I like,
2623
02:23:35.409 --> 02:23:38.309
I'll leave here now and, and, uh, I got some
2624
02:23:38.329 --> 02:23:40.610
other things to do, but before I go to bed,
2625
02:23:40.829 --> 02:23:43.850
I'll definitely try to finish something on something when I'm
2626
02:23:43.870 --> 02:23:48.350
working on right now. Yeah, hell yeah. I'll always paint. Yeah. Awesome, bro. Yeah.
2627
02:23:48.389 --> 02:23:49.829
Best out, I mean, it's like a different version of
2628
02:23:49.870 --> 02:23:52.409
the gym. It's like a different sort of painting, right? 100%. Yeah.
2629
02:23:52.729 --> 02:23:56.299
Every Tuesday, I love you guys. I could use the gym, too. Yeah, well, fuck. Me, too, man.
2630
02:23:56.340 --> 02:23:59.340
I've been slacking. You're looking hard. Every 11 a.m. Tuesday,
2631
02:23:59.360 --> 02:24:00.700
I love you guys. I'll see you next week. Thank
2632
02:24:00.719 --> 02:24:03.239
you so much for coming on, man. Appreciate it. Thanks, buddy. Yeah.
2633
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Thank you.