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Speaker 2: All right, happy Friday, everybody. Happy 2000s.
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Speaker 3: Friday and, of course, Green Day had a monster decade in the 2000s.
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Speaker 2: Boulevard of Broken Dreams sounding good. The local boys.
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Speaker 3: You're listening to KMBR AM and KMBR FM San Francisco. The Sports Leader, a cumulus media station. Turning our attention to Monday night. 49ers hosting the Washington Commanders 1-3-1. Niners trying to build on this NFC West lead and take care of a team they're supposed to beat.
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Speaker 2: But you never know. It's the NFL any given Monday.
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Speaker 3: And here's a man to talk to us about both the Washington Commanders, his old team, and his old offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan. And that is, of course, wide receiver Santana Moss, who played so many years in the NFL, 14 years in the NFL, four with the Jets who drafted him out of Miami, 10 with Washington, and several years with Kyle Shanahan. So the former pro bowler joins us on the UMA guest line. Hey, Santana, Brian Murphy, Marcus Pouchet, Murph and Marcus.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, man? Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 4: What's up, Santana?
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Speaker 5: How y'all doing, man? How's everything?
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Speaker 3: We're good, man. The Niners are undefeated, and Kyle's like, he's pressing every right button, man.
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Speaker 2: When you look at the 49ers and Kyle, man, I hear you chuckle.
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Speaker 3: What's your observation on how well Kyle's running the show out here?
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Speaker 5: I just shake my head and chuckle, man, because I'm not surprised. Kyle is doing things, man, and it's great to actually see it. But, you know, I'm kind of scared coming into this matchup, just hoping that, you know, we can get the upper hand. I mean, Kyle is phenomenal, man. I've always thought the world of him and Mike Shanahan. And having him as my coordinator, being young, you know, he had that mindset of just, you know, every time we was on that field, we was going to dominate people. And, you know, looking at some of the roles that we've been going through this year already in the secondaries, I'm not looking forward to this matchup, but I know he knows how to get guys in the right places and get the ball to the key guys to dominate any kind of game.
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Speaker 4: Santana, you had Kyle Shanahan as your OC in Washington from 2010 to 2013.
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Speaker 2: So take us inside the huddle. Take us inside the film room.
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Speaker 4: What makes Kyle Shanahan's offense different from other offenses around the league?
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Speaker 5: You know, one of the things I talk about a lot to guys, you know, me and London was just, you know, we have a show up here called the Players Club where we get guys on the show and we talk about the previous game or the game coming up. And me and London was sitting there talking and he asked me something about Cal, you know, why I talk so highly of him. I said, man, Cal had a way of just telling us in the meetings, you know, that upcoming week, like, hey, we ran this play last week. We had this formation. They're going to switch it up. They're going to expect this, and you're going to run this, and you're wide open. And he would say that week in and week out. And I kid you not, no matter what game it was, whether it was played on a Thursday, Sunday, or a Monday, it would happen just as he drew it up. I was upset.
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Speaker 4: See it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah. to myself and just saying, I wish I had this guy in my prime. You know what I mean? I had Cal and Mike, you know, I believe they came to me in year 10. I had just had my third, it was year 10 or 11. I just had my third knee surgery. So I was playing on one leg, but they got the most out of me, man. They found a way to get the ball to me and move me around and did some things that, you know, to this day when I'm watching them play, you know, watching them out there coaching and just seeing some of the guys that he's able to.
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Speaker 3: Man, it's so great to hear you talk so intimately and knowledgeably about Kyle Shanahan. The voice you hear is Santana Moss, of course, played 14 years in the NFL, 10 with Washington, four with the Jets, and played under Kyle Shanahan for all those years in the early 2010s. I have a question about how hard it is. You know, Brandon Ayuk, even though we won't talk about what's happened lately, but just when he came in, there was a story that he had trouble kind of getting on the same page as Kyle in terms of the playbook. any number of young receivers they've drafted have struggled. They drafted a couple guys these last couple years, Jacob Cowan.
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Speaker 2: Jordan Watkins, who have yet to click.
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Speaker 3: And is it demanding, I guess is my question, Santana, like how hard is it to learn Kyle's system and playbook as a receiver? Is that why you see young receivers sometimes struggle a little bit?
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if it's, I think it's where they're at mentally. You know what I mean? You have guys that come into the league at a young age that they're mentally strong enough to go out there and endure some of the things that's going to be presented to them because of what's brought up in the college system or with the previous coaches. I saw a few young guys on my team that I don't think they had trouble with grasping the offense itself. They had trouble with just everything that acts of them to be a professional and then also you know, be this guy who they are now with all this money and fame. So that's normally what happens to young guys. You know, one of the things about Kyle, to me, he's not going to wait on you. And, you know, so I'm going to throw this at you. And at the end of the day, his job is to go out here and win football games. If you're not helping that, if you're not being consistent enough when I call upon you, and that's one of the things that was key about our offense, we had a slew of guys. You know, you had Leonard, coach over there with him. you had Pierre Garcon, you had myself, you had Audrey Robertson, you had Josh Morgan, who was also a guy who also played over there with the 49ers. He asked of all of us to have a key major role in the way he called plays, and we were all going to have our opportunities. So if you're not willing to go out there and have an opportunity to go out there and flourish and be a star when he called upon you, I'm scratching my head for you because You know, that's the ultimate yes for me, you know, in a system that just can't be denied, can't be stopped. So, you know, it's strange to me to see some of these young guys have these problems in their system. But, you know, I loved everything about them. And at the point when I got them, I kept saying to myself, I wish I had them earlier.
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Speaker 4: Santana Moss is the voice you hear this morning on the UMA guest line. And Santana, there's a new wide receiver in town.
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Speaker 2: Here in the Bay Area.
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Speaker 4: Not a young guy, but one of the older guys, Mike Evans at age 33. Now, Mike Evans is a player that has already put together a Hall of Fame resume recently. with his time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But when you look at Mike Evans from a wide receiver perspective, what exactly is it that makes him such a dynamic wide receiver?
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Speaker 5: His catch radius is huge. He's been a dog from day one. I've got a chance to watch a lot of Mike Evans down there when he played the Bucs. And it's just no wrong path for him, man. He's one of those guys that a quarterback can't miss. You know, he's tall, he's lengthy. He's always open. You know, he just finds a way to do the ultimate, you know, at that position. And he's been a stellar wideout man from day one. Talk about a guy who had a thousand yards, I guess, every year for 12 years straight, I believe, at one point. And actually was the first year that, you know, he had a lot of injuries that piled up. So he couldn't, you know, couldn't couldn't top that off. Those numbers again, but I know he's in heaven being with Kyle, and I know Kyle feels the same way because he has a dog out there in the wide receiver position that's going to find a way to get open, that's going to make sure you come up with the catch, and you should believe it or not, he's going to get in that pay dirt.
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Speaker 2: You're right. The word dog might have been invented for Mike Evans.
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Speaker 3: He's out there with these broken ribs doing his thing, man, and his performance in the fourth quarter in Seattle.
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Speaker 2: It was incredible. You know, it's so funny.
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Speaker 3: When you had Kyle, we're talking to Santana Moss, by the way, of course, great receiver, 14 years in the NFL, pro bowler, and hosts his podcast out there.
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Speaker 2: It's called The Players Club, right?
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a few of them, man. We have Commencement Podcast. We have The Players Club with me, London, and Springs. So much stuff going on. We do a lot of stuff for our fans. for our team. So, you know, if, if you want to check it out more on YouTube and you type in command and then you'll see all the stuff.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 3: You do a good job talking about it too. So, but it's so funny when I see Kyle back in 2010, 11, 12 in Washington.
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Speaker 2: He just looks like us. He's so young.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: And now you see him.
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Speaker 3: It's like they say about presidents, you know, when they like a picture of Obama on day one and then Obama after eight years, you know, it's like he's all Kyle is more Kyle's older. But I guess that's my long way of asking. My long way of asking is, is he different as a play caller too? Is he doing the same things he did with you in Washington and San Francisco, or is he doing different things?
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Speaker 2: And has it gotten, I don't know, more complicated or what, or is it the same?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he changes, man. He, he, he, he, you know, that every year he's going to burn, he's going to tweak what he got going on.
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Speaker 2: And, and, Dang it.
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Speaker 3: So we tried. Sometimes cells go down and back. I try to give it a little bit. He's so good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Try to reconnect real quick, Walter.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Cause I love what he's saying.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
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Speaker 2: He was preaching about Kyle and he's preaching. He's given good information too. And it was a good booking by John Joe.
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Speaker 3: Just that the darn self, we, you know, the cell phone is really the, when I, uh, when I'm on my deathbed, Marcus, and hopefully, you know, I got a couple left. You can be like, Hey man, Hey, Murph, it's Waterboy, man. Do you have regrets?
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Speaker 2: I'll be like, yeah, man. I need more landlines. And then I'll die.
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Speaker 4: No, don't worry. I'll make sure to call you up on a landline and say, yo, what up?
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Speaker 2: Is this Murph? I'll take that.
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Speaker 4: And you'll be like, yeah, it is.
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Speaker 2: See you later. I'll take that, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Peace out.
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Speaker 2: Not a bad way to go out. That would be a good way to go out.
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Speaker 1: Yo, what up?
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Speaker 5: Yo, what up? Is this Murph?
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Speaker 3: Santana, we had the dreaded cell phone drop, man. The dreaded cell phone drop. So I'm glad we got you back. Let's say you were in the middle of saying that Kyle is changing. You think he's changing since his Washington days.
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Speaker 5: No, what I mean by that is just, you know, all these coaches have to kind of, you know, grow with how things are being done on, you know, NFL or defenses get better. So offensively, you have to have the same kind of, you know, whatever you was doing, you have to tweak it to make it, you know, to upgrade it to what it is today. You know, I think one of the things I've seen, you see form of similar concepts, but new ways to get other guys open and just get to those, some of those, that I've, you know, ran down.
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Speaker 2: Santana, if we still got you. Oh, my bad. Yeah, dropped out again, Santana. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Next question.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Just to reset, Santana, I want to ask you one more question because Kyle Shanahan is not your only connection from Washington that is currently with the 49ers. Got to ask you about the big man, Trent Williams, who you played with in Washington at age 38 years old, still one of the best left tackles in football. How impressive is it for you to still see Trent doing his thing every Sunday?
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Speaker 1: Dang it.
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Speaker 5: Dang, dang, dang.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 2: I think we've got to pull the plug, unfortunately. Yeah, I know, man. I want to hear about Trent.
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Speaker 3: What we'll do is we'll book him again later sometime, and we'll pray for the connection.
Speaker 1: Listen to The Sports Leader anytime, anywhere. Download KNBR, The Sports Leader app. Murph and Marcus continue live from the Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpot Studios. Casino Matrix, Progressive Jackpots are here.
00:00:16
Speaker 2: Where are you? Just drop in.
00:00:18
Speaker 1: 1-800-GAMBLER.
00:00:19
Speaker 2: All right, happy Friday, everybody. Happy 2000s.
00:00:23
Speaker 3: Friday and, of course, Green Day had a monster decade in the 2000s.
00:00:27
Speaker 2: Boulevard of Broken Dreams sounding good. The local boys.
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Speaker 3: You're listening to KMBR AM and KMBR FM San Francisco. The Sports Leader, a cumulus media station. Turning our attention to Monday night. 49ers hosting the Washington Commanders 1-3-1. Niners trying to build on this NFC West lead and take care of a team they're supposed to beat.
00:00:47
Speaker 2: But you never know. It's the NFL any given Monday.
00:00:50
Speaker 3: And here's a man to talk to us about both the Washington Commanders, his old team, and his old offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan. And that is, of course, wide receiver Santana Moss, who played so many years in the NFL, 14 years in the NFL, four with the Jets who drafted him out of Miami, 10 with Washington, and several years with Kyle Shanahan. So the former pro bowler joins us on the UMA guest line. Hey, Santana, Brian Murphy, Marcus Pouchet, Murph and Marcus.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, man? Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 4: What's up, Santana?
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Speaker 5: How y'all doing, man? How's everything?
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Speaker 3: We're good, man. The Niners are undefeated, and Kyle's like, he's pressing every right button, man.
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Speaker 2: When you look at the 49ers and Kyle, man, I hear you chuckle.
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Speaker 3: What's your observation on how well Kyle's running the show out here?
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Speaker 5: I just shake my head and chuckle, man, because I'm not surprised. Kyle is doing things, man, and it's great to actually see it. But, you know, I'm kind of scared coming into this matchup, just hoping that, you know, we can get the upper hand. I mean, Kyle is phenomenal, man. I've always thought the world of him and Mike Shanahan. And having him as my coordinator, being young, you know, he had that mindset of just, you know, every time we was on that field, we was going to dominate people. And, you know, looking at some of the roles that we've been going through this year already in the secondaries, I'm not looking forward to this matchup, but I know he knows how to get guys in the right places and get the ball to the key guys to dominate any kind of game.
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Speaker 4: Santana, you had Kyle Shanahan as your OC in Washington from 2010 to 2013.
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Speaker 2: So take us inside the huddle. Take us inside the film room.
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Speaker 4: What makes Kyle Shanahan's offense different from other offenses around the league?
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Speaker 5: You know, one of the things I talk about a lot to guys, you know, me and London was just, you know, we have a show up here called the Players Club where we get guys on the show and we talk about the previous game or the game coming up. And me and London was sitting there talking and he asked me something about Cal, you know, why I talk so highly of him. I said, man, Cal had a way of just telling us in the meetings, you know, that upcoming week, like, hey, we ran this play last week. We had this formation. They're going to switch it up. They're going to expect this, and you're going to run this, and you're wide open. And he would say that week in and week out. And I kid you not, no matter what game it was, whether it was played on a Thursday, Sunday, or a Monday, it would happen just as he drew it up. I was upset.
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Speaker 4: See it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah. to myself and just saying, I wish I had this guy in my prime. You know what I mean? I had Cal and Mike, you know, I believe they came to me in year 10. I had just had my third, it was year 10 or 11. I just had my third knee surgery. So I was playing on one leg, but they got the most out of me, man. They found a way to get the ball to me and move me around and did some things that, you know, to this day when I'm watching them play, you know, watching them out there coaching and just seeing some of the guys that he's able to.
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Speaker 3: Man, it's so great to hear you talk so intimately and knowledgeably about Kyle Shanahan. The voice you hear is Santana Moss, of course, played 14 years in the NFL, 10 with Washington, four with the Jets, and played under Kyle Shanahan for all those years in the early 2010s. I have a question about how hard it is. You know, Brandon Ayuk, even though we won't talk about what's happened lately, but just when he came in, there was a story that he had trouble kind of getting on the same page as Kyle in terms of the playbook. any number of young receivers they've drafted have struggled. They drafted a couple guys these last couple years, Jacob Cowan.
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Speaker 2: Jordan Watkins, who have yet to click.
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Speaker 3: And is it demanding, I guess is my question, Santana, like how hard is it to learn Kyle's system and playbook as a receiver? Is that why you see young receivers sometimes struggle a little bit?
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if it's, I think it's where they're at mentally. You know what I mean? You have guys that come into the league at a young age that they're mentally strong enough to go out there and endure some of the things that's going to be presented to them because of what's brought up in the college system or with the previous coaches. I saw a few young guys on my team that I don't think they had trouble with grasping the offense itself. They had trouble with just everything that acts of them to be a professional and then also you know, be this guy who they are now with all this money and fame. So that's normally what happens to young guys. You know, one of the things about Kyle, to me, he's not going to wait on you. And, you know, so I'm going to throw this at you. And at the end of the day, his job is to go out here and win football games. If you're not helping that, if you're not being consistent enough when I call upon you, and that's one of the things that was key about our offense, we had a slew of guys. You know, you had Leonard, coach over there with him. you had Pierre Garcon, you had myself, you had Audrey Robertson, you had Josh Morgan, who was also a guy who also played over there with the 49ers. He asked of all of us to have a key major role in the way he called plays, and we were all going to have our opportunities. So if you're not willing to go out there and have an opportunity to go out there and flourish and be a star when he called upon you, I'm scratching my head for you because You know, that's the ultimate yes for me, you know, in a system that just can't be denied, can't be stopped. So, you know, it's strange to me to see some of these young guys have these problems in their system. But, you know, I loved everything about them. And at the point when I got them, I kept saying to myself, I wish I had them earlier.
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Speaker 4: Santana Moss is the voice you hear this morning on the UMA guest line. And Santana, there's a new wide receiver in town.
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Speaker 2: Here in the Bay Area.
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Speaker 4: Not a young guy, but one of the older guys, Mike Evans at age 33. Now, Mike Evans is a player that has already put together a Hall of Fame resume recently. with his time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But when you look at Mike Evans from a wide receiver perspective, what exactly is it that makes him such a dynamic wide receiver?
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Speaker 5: His catch radius is huge. He's been a dog from day one. I've got a chance to watch a lot of Mike Evans down there when he played the Bucs. And it's just no wrong path for him, man. He's one of those guys that a quarterback can't miss. You know, he's tall, he's lengthy. He's always open. You know, he just finds a way to do the ultimate, you know, at that position. And he's been a stellar wideout man from day one. Talk about a guy who had a thousand yards, I guess, every year for 12 years straight, I believe, at one point. And actually was the first year that, you know, he had a lot of injuries that piled up. So he couldn't, you know, couldn't couldn't top that off. Those numbers again, but I know he's in heaven being with Kyle, and I know Kyle feels the same way because he has a dog out there in the wide receiver position that's going to find a way to get open, that's going to make sure you come up with the catch, and you should believe it or not, he's going to get in that pay dirt.
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Speaker 2: You're right. The word dog might have been invented for Mike Evans.
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Speaker 3: He's out there with these broken ribs doing his thing, man, and his performance in the fourth quarter in Seattle.
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Speaker 2: It was incredible. You know, it's so funny.
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Speaker 3: When you had Kyle, we're talking to Santana Moss, by the way, of course, great receiver, 14 years in the NFL, pro bowler, and hosts his podcast out there.
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Speaker 2: It's called The Players Club, right?
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
00:08:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a few of them, man. We have Commencement Podcast. We have The Players Club with me, London, and Springs. So much stuff going on. We do a lot of stuff for our fans. for our team. So, you know, if, if you want to check it out more on YouTube and you type in command and then you'll see all the stuff.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 3: You do a good job talking about it too. So, but it's so funny when I see Kyle back in 2010, 11, 12 in Washington.
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Speaker 2: He just looks like us. He's so young.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: And now you see him.
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Speaker 3: It's like they say about presidents, you know, when they like a picture of Obama on day one and then Obama after eight years, you know, it's like he's all Kyle is more Kyle's older. But I guess that's my long way of asking. My long way of asking is, is he different as a play caller too? Is he doing the same things he did with you in Washington and San Francisco, or is he doing different things?
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Speaker 2: And has it gotten, I don't know, more complicated or what, or is it the same?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he changes, man. He, he, he, he, you know, that every year he's going to burn, he's going to tweak what he got going on.
00:09:19
Speaker 2: And, and, Dang it.
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Speaker 3: So we tried. Sometimes cells go down and back. I try to give it a little bit. He's so good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Try to reconnect real quick, Walter.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Cause I love what he's saying.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
00:09:40
Speaker 2: He was preaching about Kyle and he's preaching. He's given good information too. And it was a good booking by John Joe.
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Speaker 3: Just that the darn self, we, you know, the cell phone is really the, when I, uh, when I'm on my deathbed, Marcus, and hopefully, you know, I got a couple left. You can be like, Hey man, Hey, Murph, it's Waterboy, man. Do you have regrets?
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Speaker 2: I'll be like, yeah, man. I need more landlines. And then I'll die.
00:10:03
Speaker 4: No, don't worry. I'll make sure to call you up on a landline and say, yo, what up?
00:10:06
Speaker 2: Is this Murph? I'll take that.
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Speaker 4: And you'll be like, yeah, it is.
00:10:09
Speaker 2: See you later. I'll take that, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Peace out.
00:10:10
Speaker 2: Not a bad way to go out. That would be a good way to go out.
00:10:12
Speaker 1: Yo, what up?
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Speaker 5: Yo, what up? Is this Murph?
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Speaker 3: Santana, we had the dreaded cell phone drop, man. The dreaded cell phone drop. So I'm glad we got you back. Let's say you were in the middle of saying that Kyle is changing. You think he's changing since his Washington days.
00:10:26
Speaker 5: No, what I mean by that is just, you know, all these coaches have to kind of, you know, grow with how things are being done on, you know, NFL or defenses get better. So offensively, you have to have the same kind of, you know, whatever you was doing, you have to tweak it to make it, you know, to upgrade it to what it is today. You know, I think one of the things I've seen, you see form of similar concepts, but new ways to get other guys open and just get to those, some of those, that I've, you know, ran down.
00:11:01
Speaker 2: Santana, if we still got you. Oh, my bad. Yeah, dropped out again, Santana. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Next question.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
00:11:08
Speaker 4: Just to reset, Santana, I want to ask you one more question because Kyle Shanahan is not your only connection from Washington that is currently with the 49ers. Got to ask you about the big man, Trent Williams, who you played with in Washington at age 38 years old, still one of the best left tackles in football. How impressive is it for you to still see Trent doing his thing every Sunday?
00:11:35
Speaker 1: Dang it.
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Speaker 5: Dang, dang, dang.
00:11:37
Speaker 4: All right.
00:11:37
Speaker 2: I think we've got to pull the plug, unfortunately. Yeah, I know, man. I want to hear about Trent.
00:11:41
Speaker 3: What we'll do is we'll book him again later sometime, and we'll pray for the connection.
