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Hey, welcome to the integrate this at tech podcast.
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I'm David burner joined today by Stevie Frank
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See be happy to have you on the podcast today.
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Oh my goodness. It's so exciting to be here So
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thank you so much for having me. I appreciate
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it Yeah, I think this is actually the first time
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we've met in person it has been but it feels
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like we know each other Yeah, and that's the
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magic of online right linkedin. Yeah everything.
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So how's is he going so far for you? Oh my gosh,
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it's going so well. It's always so big. So I
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always like to tell people, if you've never gone
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before, just take what you can and manage your
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time. Don't let other people take your time.
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Say yes to the things that bring you joy and
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try to keep it manageable in that way. So this
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morning I kind of made myself a little bit slower
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of a morning so I could kind of ease into the
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day. Because you can't go all day, every day,
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by any means. So I think keeping it a little
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bit manageable. But because I've been doing them,
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I've been doing these for a little while, I'm
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like, I'm great. I'm refreshed. I'm a morning
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person, so this works out great. Awesome. So
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we've got to ask you, how many years is this
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for you? For ISTE, I think this is only like
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four or five. I go every other year typically,
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so I find myself going to these conferences,
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so they're pretty big. And so I always like to
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go every other year and then I'll sprinkle in
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FETCs, TCAs, IdeaCon I went to a couple of times,
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and then a lot of local conferences in Indiana.
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Yeah, can you talk about that actually for a
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second? Because I see it all the time, like the
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Spark Summit. Yes. Yeah. Can you talk a little
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bit about that? Like, because how was that about
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a month ago or two months ago? Yeah, it was about
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a month ago. Yeah. OK. I'm like, wait, where
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am I at? But yes, no. So it's wonderful. Nadine
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Gilkeson, she puts it on and that's for her district.
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And she does such an amazing job with that. And
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Nadine and I were on NC is our ISTE affiliate
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board member convention that we put on conference
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for Indiana. And so she and I were board members
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on that together. We put together that conference
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too. So I really got to know her well and like
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the ins and outs of how she does the thing, she's
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phenomenal. And she's also an SD Featured Voice,
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so you should definitely check her out. But it
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was such a fun conference, good people, and Hoosiers,
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Indiana Hoosiers are just like good people, like
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good Midwestern people, so it's good. Yeah. We
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could relate. We're from Minnesota, so we know
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what's up. So you mentioned Nadine, but she's
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come up a couple times, actually, about having
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a podcast, because one of our questions for you
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is, like, who should we have on the podcast that
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we have yet? So that would be your... Your answer?
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Oh my gosh, I'm going to shoot her a text as
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soon as I leave here and be like, okay, you might
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be, you might be looped into this amazing group.
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So yes, absolutely. That would be awesome. Um,
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what do you, what do you feel like, um, educators,
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like what should, what is the thing that you
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hope they take away from a conference like this?
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I hope they just take away that we are truly
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better together and don't be afraid to say hi
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to somebody. reach out to somebody online like
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we are all in education and none of us have gotten
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into it to make the big bucks or to be famous
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like that's just we're we're here for kids we're
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here for students and that's my number one goal
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so there's sometimes people are like kind of
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nervous to even approach me and i'm like no no
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like i'm a tech coach in my school like i can't
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even fill a room in my own school district for
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pd sessions like i've you know so All of us are
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like that. So I would just have to say if you
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have a question, reach out to anybody. And I
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think it would be that would be worth your while,
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if you will. Yeah. And it's super refreshing
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to hear. And I know I can attest to that because
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like for us, we started reaching out to people
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and everybody is accessible and super kind, like
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really easy to talk to. So, yeah, don't be intimidated.
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You can go to people and talk to them. And so
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as far as. Looking at like your upcoming sessions.
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What can you preview for us a little bit? You
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have two sessions today Gosh, okay. So I have
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that's a hot question and I can't I'm not gonna
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look at my phone So I think I have four booth
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sessions today. Okay, and then I am volunteering
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at the Microsoft AI Innovation hallway experience
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that they have to end my day out today And then
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tomorrow I have I'm part of Adobe student ambassador
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pilot group. And so I'm on a panel for that tomorrow
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And that'll round out my ISTE experience. OK.
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And with the Adobe stuff, is there any projects
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and things that you want to highlight? Oh my
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gosh. So first of all, Adobe Community Professional
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Learning Network community, phenomenal. Like
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honestly, I get asked by other companies, they're
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like, OK, how is Adobe doing it? Because they're
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doing it well. They're just a great group of
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human beings. They were former educators. They
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get it. They reach out. But I'm a part of like
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a student. ambassador program and so I had like
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a group of pilot kiddos and we did all the things
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in Adobe and like they actually came and did
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a site visit so they actually people from New
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York City and Seattle like came to Indiana and
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came to visit the students and take a look at
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their work and showcase them and they make really
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big deals of kids and their creativity and their
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work and so to me that's been such an amazing
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community because like I'm like I want the spotlight
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to go to my students and they do a really good
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job at that. That's awesome. And we can we talk
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about is Zionsville. Yeah. Right. We talk about
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that for like, what can people expect when they
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walk into that school? Okay, well, first of all,
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I love Zinesville Community Schools. I was just
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on the shuttle on the way here and I'm like,
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I can talk to you all for days about Zinesville.
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So I live in the district that I work in. My
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kids go to the district I work in. And I mean,
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I'm like, we are in Zinesville until at least
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our youngest is 18. So that's my like, that's
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our goal. But it is such a human driven school
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district. And I've worked for three different
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school districts, and I had two different student
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teaching experiences. And this is like the only
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one. Like I honestly I'm like, I have found like
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the perfect district because they're truly human
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centric. One of the best examples, I think, is
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whenever they have, like, back -to -school breakfast
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for staff, the principals and administrators
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and superintendent are literally scooping your
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breakfast and putting it on your plate for you
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with, like, the hair nets and every... And I
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just... I don't know. I think that speaks volumes,
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and they're just... They care about the kids.
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And the parents know that. I mean, it's just...
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We haven't had a lot of noise, I think, that
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a lot of other districts have gone to because
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our community members and everybody knows, like,
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we're doing what's best for kids and we're raising...
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human beings first, and then making sure that
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they're academically sound as well. That's extremely
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important. But I don't know. I think I can't
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speak best about it. I could keep going. We can
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keep going. Our schools are like that, too. We're
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in rural areas. There's minimal resources. It's
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just making the most of what you've got and that
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kind of thing to serve the students. And I wanted
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to mention, too, I remember from the podcast
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that you did with us, probably a year ago now,
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honestly, it was the Indianapolis 500 project.
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They did. Can you talk about that again? Because
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I haven't forgot about it. Well, of course I
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did it again. Because part of the Indy 500, if
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you're an Indian, it's a big deal. So we had
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students create an animate to audio project inside
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of Adobe Express. And kids can use their voices.
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And then AI moves the mouth of whatever figure
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that the kids decide to be in. They can be an
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avocado. They can be a unicorn. They can be anything.
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But they turned themselves into AI race car drivers.
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And then they recorded everything that they had
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learned about their favorite race car. car driver
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in their voice into Adobe Express. And so then
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I did this with every single fifth grader. And
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so I had like a hundred, no, we had like nearly
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300 of these projects all in one area. And we
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were just like one quick pit stop along their
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reading or along their journey of Indy 500 day
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in fifth grade. So that was super fun. And that's
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always cool too, because you're like bringing
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local stuff or things that are relevant to students.
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It's like, well, we know about this. This is
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where we live, right? And it's like layered in
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with like rigor. So I think sometimes like when
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you see tech and I hate doing tech for tech's
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sake. I won't, I've actually. turned away coaching
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cycles because I was like, this isn't a good
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fit. And I was like, go, go get the kids in person
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and have them like, no tech, like, that's okay.
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And I think sometimes people think like, Oh,
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Stevie's all about tech, but like, My master's
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is in reading, so I've always been very curricular
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based. And so I think when we start to lead in
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with like, yes, that was like a cute prop, but
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no, it was like highly rigorous because we were
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one pit stop and the pit stops right before us,
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they were researching in the library of what
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their race car driver was. And then the next
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pit stop, they wrote a script. So like we have
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all of those components and then this was just
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their assessment. So if we did take a grade.
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So I don't know, I wanted to kind of call that
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out too, because... I know we're all feeling
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here at SD, like tech is kind of on fire. But
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I think when we can start having those meaningful
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conversations and highlighting how academically
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sound that these projects are, like we're really
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starting to move in transformational ways. Yeah,
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and it's a pretty common refrain too. Like as
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we were here, right, everybody echoes that same
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thing. It's like we're not just pushing tech
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to push tech. It's like the students come first.
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If tech helps with what your pedagogy is trying
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to accomplish, then great, and implement it that
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way, as opposed to just like, here's a computer,
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that kind of thing. I have one more question
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for you, and this is just about what kind of
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things do you have that you want to highlight
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that you have coming up? Conferences, potentially
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something with, we had... friend of the show,
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Manuel Herrera on. Is there anything that you're
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doing with him, maybe that you could give us
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a... I don't know. We don't know yet, but Manuel
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and I are working on a project and I love working
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with him. He's so fun. His creative brains are
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amazing. But yes, there are some things that
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are in the work with him. But honestly, what
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I'm looking forward to is... So I think it's
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also important that we find time to recharge
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when you're especially in the edtech space. So
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actually in two days, I am leaving for a two
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week vacation with my family and we are traveling
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the country of France. We are going all around
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the entire country. And that is I'm looking forward
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to filling my cup. And honestly, it's my last
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round. You probably won't see me again until
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after back to school, to be honest. Going off
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grid for a little bit. I am. I am. I'm still
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going to post to things, but like, yeah, this
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kind of rounds out my time. It'll be France related,
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it won't be like education. Definitely, so I'm
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excited to recharge. And then one other thing,
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where can people follow you, check out the work
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that you have on any of the websites you have?
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So can you just mention that too? I would love
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to so yes, so my website I post all of my presentation
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and all of my resources like again We in education
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aren't trying to like I'm not trying to make
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big bucks here But I do have all my resources
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on my website at Stevie Frank calm and then on
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Twitter. I'm at Stevie Frank 23 It will forever
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be Twitter. And then on LinkedIn, you can just
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look up Stevie Frank and I'm there too as well.
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So I have personal accounts on Instagram and
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Facebook, but you don't want to see pictures
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of my kids. That's for the personal side of me.
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But those are the two places that I post regularly
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on the professional work I do. Great. Well, make
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sure you follow Stevie. Go to the website and
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check out the Integrate This podcast as well.
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Stevie's been on there with the episode together.
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So Stevie, thanks. Well, thank you so much for
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having me. I appreciate it.
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Hey, welcome to the integrate this at tech podcast.
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I'm David burner joined today by Stevie Frank
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See be happy to have you on the podcast today.
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Oh my goodness. It's so exciting to be here So
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thank you so much for having me. I appreciate
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it Yeah, I think this is actually the first time
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we've met in person it has been but it feels
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like we know each other Yeah, and that's the
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magic of online right linkedin. Yeah everything.
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So how's is he going so far for you? Oh my gosh,
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it's going so well. It's always so big. So I
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always like to tell people, if you've never gone
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before, just take what you can and manage your
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time. Don't let other people take your time.
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Say yes to the things that bring you joy and
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try to keep it manageable in that way. So this
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morning I kind of made myself a little bit slower
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of a morning so I could kind of ease into the
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day. Because you can't go all day, every day,
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by any means. So I think keeping it a little
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bit manageable. But because I've been doing them,
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I've been doing these for a little while, I'm
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like, I'm great. I'm refreshed. I'm a morning
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person, so this works out great. Awesome. So
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we've got to ask you, how many years is this
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for you? For ISTE, I think this is only like
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four or five. I go every other year typically,
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so I find myself going to these conferences,
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so they're pretty big. And so I always like to
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go every other year and then I'll sprinkle in
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FETCs, TCAs, IdeaCon I went to a couple of times,
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and then a lot of local conferences in Indiana.
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Yeah, can you talk about that actually for a
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second? Because I see it all the time, like the
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Spark Summit. Yes. Yeah. Can you talk a little
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bit about that? Like, because how was that about
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a month ago or two months ago? Yeah, it was about
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a month ago. Yeah. OK. I'm like, wait, where
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am I at? But yes, no. So it's wonderful. Nadine
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Gilkeson, she puts it on and that's for her district.
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And she does such an amazing job with that. And
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Nadine and I were on NC is our ISTE affiliate
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board member convention that we put on conference
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for Indiana. And so she and I were board members
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on that together. We put together that conference
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too. So I really got to know her well and like
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the ins and outs of how she does the thing, she's
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phenomenal. And she's also an SD Featured Voice,
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so you should definitely check her out. But it
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was such a fun conference, good people, and Hoosiers,
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Indiana Hoosiers are just like good people, like
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good Midwestern people, so it's good. Yeah. We
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could relate. We're from Minnesota, so we know
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what's up. So you mentioned Nadine, but she's
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come up a couple times, actually, about having
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a podcast, because one of our questions for you
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is, like, who should we have on the podcast that
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we have yet? So that would be your... Your answer?
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Oh my gosh, I'm going to shoot her a text as
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soon as I leave here and be like, okay, you might
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be, you might be looped into this amazing group.
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So yes, absolutely. That would be awesome. Um,
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what do you, what do you feel like, um, educators,
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like what should, what is the thing that you
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hope they take away from a conference like this?
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I hope they just take away that we are truly
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better together and don't be afraid to say hi
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to somebody. reach out to somebody online like
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we are all in education and none of us have gotten
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into it to make the big bucks or to be famous
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like that's just we're we're here for kids we're
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here for students and that's my number one goal
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so there's sometimes people are like kind of
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nervous to even approach me and i'm like no no
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like i'm a tech coach in my school like i can't
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even fill a room in my own school district for
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pd sessions like i've you know so All of us are
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like that. So I would just have to say if you
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have a question, reach out to anybody. And I
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think it would be that would be worth your while,
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if you will. Yeah. And it's super refreshing
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to hear. And I know I can attest to that because
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like for us, we started reaching out to people
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and everybody is accessible and super kind, like
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really easy to talk to. So, yeah, don't be intimidated.
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You can go to people and talk to them. And so
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as far as. Looking at like your upcoming sessions.
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What can you preview for us a little bit? You
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have two sessions today Gosh, okay. So I have
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that's a hot question and I can't I'm not gonna
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look at my phone So I think I have four booth
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sessions today. Okay, and then I am volunteering
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at the Microsoft AI Innovation hallway experience
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that they have to end my day out today And then
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tomorrow I have I'm part of Adobe student ambassador
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pilot group. And so I'm on a panel for that tomorrow
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And that'll round out my ISTE experience. OK.
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And with the Adobe stuff, is there any projects
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and things that you want to highlight? Oh my
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gosh. So first of all, Adobe Community Professional
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Learning Network community, phenomenal. Like
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honestly, I get asked by other companies, they're
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like, OK, how is Adobe doing it? Because they're
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doing it well. They're just a great group of
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human beings. They were former educators. They
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get it. They reach out. But I'm a part of like
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a student. ambassador program and so I had like
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a group of pilot kiddos and we did all the things
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in Adobe and like they actually came and did
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a site visit so they actually people from New
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York City and Seattle like came to Indiana and
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came to visit the students and take a look at
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their work and showcase them and they make really
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big deals of kids and their creativity and their
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work and so to me that's been such an amazing
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community because like I'm like I want the spotlight
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to go to my students and they do a really good
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job at that. That's awesome. And we can we talk
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about is Zionsville. Yeah. Right. We talk about
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that for like, what can people expect when they
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walk into that school? Okay, well, first of all,
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I love Zinesville Community Schools. I was just
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on the shuttle on the way here and I'm like,
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I can talk to you all for days about Zinesville.
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So I live in the district that I work in. My
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kids go to the district I work in. And I mean,
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I'm like, we are in Zinesville until at least
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our youngest is 18. So that's my like, that's
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our goal. But it is such a human driven school
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district. And I've worked for three different
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school districts, and I had two different student
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teaching experiences. And this is like the only
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one. Like I honestly I'm like, I have found like
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the perfect district because they're truly human
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centric. One of the best examples, I think, is
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whenever they have, like, back -to -school breakfast
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for staff, the principals and administrators
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and superintendent are literally scooping your
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breakfast and putting it on your plate for you
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with, like, the hair nets and every... And I
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just... I don't know. I think that speaks volumes,
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and they're just... They care about the kids.
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And the parents know that. I mean, it's just...
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We haven't had a lot of noise, I think, that
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a lot of other districts have gone to because
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our community members and everybody knows, like,
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we're doing what's best for kids and we're raising...
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human beings first, and then making sure that
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they're academically sound as well. That's extremely
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important. But I don't know. I think I can't
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speak best about it. I could keep going. We can
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keep going. Our schools are like that, too. We're
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in rural areas. There's minimal resources. It's
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just making the most of what you've got and that
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kind of thing to serve the students. And I wanted
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to mention, too, I remember from the podcast
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that you did with us, probably a year ago now,
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honestly, it was the Indianapolis 500 project.
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They did. Can you talk about that again? Because
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I haven't forgot about it. Well, of course I
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did it again. Because part of the Indy 500, if
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you're an Indian, it's a big deal. So we had
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students create an animate to audio project inside
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of Adobe Express. And kids can use their voices.
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And then AI moves the mouth of whatever figure
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that the kids decide to be in. They can be an
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avocado. They can be a unicorn. They can be anything.
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But they turned themselves into AI race car drivers.
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And then they recorded everything that they had
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learned about their favorite race car. car driver
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in their voice into Adobe Express. And so then
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I did this with every single fifth grader. And
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so I had like a hundred, no, we had like nearly
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300 of these projects all in one area. And we
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were just like one quick pit stop along their
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reading or along their journey of Indy 500 day
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in fifth grade. So that was super fun. And that's
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always cool too, because you're like bringing
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local stuff or things that are relevant to students.
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It's like, well, we know about this. This is
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where we live, right? And it's like layered in
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with like rigor. So I think sometimes like when
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you see tech and I hate doing tech for tech's
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sake. I won't, I've actually. turned away coaching
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cycles because I was like, this isn't a good
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fit. And I was like, go, go get the kids in person
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and have them like, no tech, like, that's okay.
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And I think sometimes people think like, Oh,
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Stevie's all about tech, but like, My master's
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is in reading, so I've always been very curricular
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based. And so I think when we start to lead in
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with like, yes, that was like a cute prop, but
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no, it was like highly rigorous because we were
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one pit stop and the pit stops right before us,
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they were researching in the library of what
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their race car driver was. And then the next
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pit stop, they wrote a script. So like we have
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all of those components and then this was just
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their assessment. So if we did take a grade.
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So I don't know, I wanted to kind of call that
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out too, because... I know we're all feeling
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here at SD, like tech is kind of on fire. But
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I think when we can start having those meaningful
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conversations and highlighting how academically
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sound that these projects are, like we're really
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starting to move in transformational ways. Yeah,
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and it's a pretty common refrain too. Like as
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we were here, right, everybody echoes that same
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thing. It's like we're not just pushing tech
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to push tech. It's like the students come first.
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If tech helps with what your pedagogy is trying
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to accomplish, then great, and implement it that
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way, as opposed to just like, here's a computer,
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that kind of thing. I have one more question
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for you, and this is just about what kind of
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things do you have that you want to highlight
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that you have coming up? Conferences, potentially
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something with, we had... friend of the show,
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Manuel Herrera on. Is there anything that you're
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doing with him, maybe that you could give us
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a... I don't know. We don't know yet, but Manuel
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and I are working on a project and I love working
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with him. He's so fun. His creative brains are
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amazing. But yes, there are some things that
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are in the work with him. But honestly, what
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I'm looking forward to is... So I think it's
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also important that we find time to recharge
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when you're especially in the edtech space. So
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actually in two days, I am leaving for a two
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week vacation with my family and we are traveling
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the country of France. We are going all around
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the entire country. And that is I'm looking forward
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to filling my cup. And honestly, it's my last
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round. You probably won't see me again until
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after back to school, to be honest. Going off
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grid for a little bit. I am. I am. I'm still
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going to post to things, but like, yeah, this
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kind of rounds out my time. It'll be France related,
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it won't be like education. Definitely, so I'm
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excited to recharge. And then one other thing,
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where can people follow you, check out the work
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that you have on any of the websites you have?
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So can you just mention that too? I would love
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to so yes, so my website I post all of my presentation
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and all of my resources like again We in education
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aren't trying to like I'm not trying to make
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big bucks here But I do have all my resources
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on my website at Stevie Frank calm and then on
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Twitter. I'm at Stevie Frank 23 It will forever
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be Twitter. And then on LinkedIn, you can just
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look up Stevie Frank and I'm there too as well.
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So I have personal accounts on Instagram and
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Facebook, but you don't want to see pictures
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of my kids. That's for the personal side of me.
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But those are the two places that I post regularly
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on the professional work I do. Great. Well, make
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sure you follow Stevie. Go to the website and
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check out the Integrate This podcast as well.
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Stevie's been on there with the episode together.
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So Stevie, thanks. Well, thank you so much for
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having me. I appreciate it.
