02 - Michelle Ockers (Learning Uncut)

Michelle has been a huge influence on my career, Michelle and I crossed paths first back in 2018 when she came to visit when I had newly moved to Brisbane. Through the years, she has been there as an informal mentor, friend, sounding board and network connector. I was lucky enough to work with Michelle in the past couple of years and Michelle's podcast continues to be a regular influence on expanding my practice and network. When I decided to start the podcast, Michelle was the first person I had in mind to join me for my first episode. We started the conversation on collaboration, community and connection in L&D but ended on AI. Enjoy! :)
Summary (AI Generated)
The conversation between Greg and Michelle revolves around the theme of collaboration and the power of connection in the learning and development (L&D) field. Greg shares how Michelle's podcast and their personal connection have been instrumental in his professional development. They discuss the importance of building a network and learning from others in the L&D community. They also highlight the shift from a training-focused approach to a more holistic and collaborative approach to learning. Greg shares examples of how collaboration and connection have led to successful outcomes in his own work. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the value of collaboration and community in the L&D profession. The conversation explores the importance of collaboration, overcoming biases, and leveraging AI in learning and development. Greg discusses the concept of lenses or ways of seeing things and how the community lens allows us to understand and solve problems by incorporating different perspectives. He emphasizes the need for structured thinking processes and collaboration to overcome cognitive biases. Greg also highlights the dangers of relying solely on experience and the importance of listening to new perspectives. He discusses the role of AI in content creation and performance support, emphasizing the need for human expertise in learning design. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the future of AI in L&D and the importance of connection and collaboration in problem-solving.
Resources:
Michelle's Website and all things Learning Uncut - https://michelleockers.com/
Michelle Ockers on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleockers/
Learning Uncut Podcast - https://learninguncut.global/podcast/
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Takeaways
Collaboration and connection are essential in the learning and development field.
Building a network and learning from others can greatly enhance professional development.
A shift from a training-focused approach to a more collaborative and holistic approach to learning is necessary.
Collaboration and connection can lead to successful outcomes and solve real-world problems in the workplace. Collaboration and incorporating different perspectives are essential for understanding and solving problems.
Structured thinking processes and collaboration can help overcome cognitive biases.
Relying solely on experience can lead to biases and closed thinking.
AI can be used for content creation and performance support, but human expertise in learning design is crucial.
Connection and collaboration are key in navigating the future of AI in learning and development.
Time Stamps - AI Generated
00:00 Introduction and the Influence of the Podcast
02:17 The Importance of Connection, Community, and Collaboration
06:20 Learning from Others and the Power of Networking
08:07 Human-Centered Approaches in L&D
12:35 The Role of Connection in Problem-Solving
22:35 The Impact of Networking and Collaboration
24:19 The Need for a Different Approach in L&D
27:04 Overcoming Biases and Embracing Agile
27:59 Analyzing Patterns and Trends in L&D
28:22 The Power of Collaboration and Connection
30:11 The Community Lens: Opening Up to Different Perspectives
32:29 Overcoming Cognitive Biases with Structured Thinking
44:02 The Role of AI in Learning and Development