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May bla talk fifteen eighty. That's some original music that
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you're hearing right there, coming out of the organization known
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as tech Lamart, being joined in studio by Native Angelino,
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an MC and writer who also represents the Inland Empire.
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She Uh is here representing all that she's worked with,
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Patrice Russian, Moby Gabriel Garson, Montano, Kendrick Lamar, Doctor Dre Logic,
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Terras Martin and more. Camille il Camille aka Camille Davis. Welcome, Yes, ma'am,
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thank you, great to see you, welcome back.
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Thank you, thank you for having me.
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Yeah, so back intro that particular track that we just heard,
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it's part of a larger project.
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Yes, so the track that you heard was from one
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of twelve producers that made it to the point where
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we created a vinyl album called the Audio Effect, which
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which stems from the program tech Lamert Undefeated and Serato
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partner for We're in their second go round with that.
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Last year in July, we had about eighty folks from
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across the city apply in a tend three days worth
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the workshop music education, technology, creative networking, just in community
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building and so the vinyl that we brought for you.
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We really wanted you to have it.
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Thank you.
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Thanks specifically because of how you establish and set presidents
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and how we communicate and share information. That's what tech
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Lamert does.
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Right.
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So I'm an artist, but at tech Lamert I got
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a chance to learn and grow and do program and
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curriculum development and do program development and expand my brain
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in that way. So this program is that the Audio
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Effect represents beat makers and producers from the local ecosystem,
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and we teach music technology through a really cool program.
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Shout out to Serrato. They have Serrato Studio sample hex effects.
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We use those instruments as well as you know, other dolls,
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and we basically learn new techniques. We learn traditional techniques
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in sampling, composing, sound design, we do all the things.
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So that Vinyl is just to basically say we did that.
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Okay, well it is true.
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I mean I'm not an expert in this area, but
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it is true that an mc now or an artist
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now a singer, but any kind of artist has to
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know a little something about technology. Gone are the days
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where you just pull up to the studio and the
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engineer does everything right.
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I think, to be honest, I think it always was
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that I think there's sometimes like a very narrow minded
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mindset that saturates the creative world and tells you that
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that you only have to be one thing. But me personally,
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I feel like that's part of the West Coast DNA
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is that.
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We're multi you know, faceted, you know those things Mary,
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film and music married.
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So the technology was always present, you know what I mean,
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long as you got a keyboard is be pre computer.
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As long as you got a keyboard or just human technology,
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the technology was there, so we got we you know,
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and then and then we've been repurposing the original design
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of those things forever. So I think we're just owning
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that now. I can personally say I'm comfortable with identifying
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as a music technologist now.
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Shout out to my homegirl.
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Paris that introduced me to that term. And then I
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think I seen Georgia ann And and I think mad
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Lib say it too, and I was like, Okay, they're
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living in that way.
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Make me as a technologist.
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Somebody that is constantly innovating and learning innovation, whether it's
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you know, from the time before or future forward, They're
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always figuring out how to innovate, and that is you know,
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maybe it involves some hard hardwiring, or maybe some software development,
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or maybe just refreaking your process, like figuring out a
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different way to sample making, making use of what you have.
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You know, if all I have is an iPhone, I
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can still make music. If I don't have the iPhone,
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I can still make music. So to me, is that
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person that can use human and mechanic mechanical technology to.
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Create I mean, it's it's Black Music Month, and repurposing
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and making something magical out of scraps or or or
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gold is something we've always done. I was having an
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argument with someone the other day. You a a hip
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hop purist about you know, to me, you know about
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how people are violating their tenants of hip hop, and
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I'm like, but to me, that doesn't even make sense
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because hip hop has always been about repurposing, reinventing, flipping
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the script. You know, whether it's a piece of linoleum
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or a dog gone sample beat. How can where is?
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How can you make up rules like that?
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Especially as times, I mean, times keep evolving. Aren't we
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gonna evolve with the times?
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And we yeah, I hope we are the evolution right.
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So what happens though, when we become the meal, you know,
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I e. You know what's happening right now with a
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lot of people. I mean, it's funny because I talk
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with Miles Low about this all the time. He's a
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rap artist, yeah, shout out Myles, and he's using AI
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to his benefit, and as as an artist, doesn't mean
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all of his songs are not written from his brain.
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But I'm just saying, we're also becoming the fuel for
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these you know, corporate creatives.
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Can we even call them creatives?
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I think I think it's case by case, if I
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can be honest, right, because I think there's a good
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majority of people that understand AI.
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Is a tool.
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You know, It's not supposed to be a complete substitute
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for human input, feedback, output, none of that. Right that that.
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That especially right?
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Yeah?
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I think I think we're supposed to figure out how
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to accelerate and then kind of slim down our workflow.
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I'm personally tired.
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Of hustle culture, especially as it pertains to independent artists
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in this community. I feel like we outwork a lot
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of folks. And maybe I'm biased, but I just feel
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like the West Coast for everything that we bring and
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cultivate it put us in a state of hustle culture
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where we're just working maybe harder, but not smarter.
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Yeah, I mean, clearly we could follow the lead of
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gen Z and A who are not with the hustle culture.
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But when you talk about.
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Technology and being a music technologists, what are some of
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the new things you know, besides the AI boom, what
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are some of the new things that are helping that
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are making it easier, making us able to move away
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from that hustle culture into a more smarter, not harder framework.
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I think one thing where there's AI integrated elements that
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I can talk about that has helped me is Serrato.
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And there's no bias in this right because I really
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have to I really have to stand on things that
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I use like I have to be able to comfortably
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say that like Serrato is a good product. Because of
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this right, I'm an artist that leaned more into songwriting
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and rapping and performance more than production because I wasn't
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comfortable not seeing a lot of women own that about
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themselves in the music space. I was like, oh, you
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just got to pair yourself with a super producer.
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And boom, You're on your whis That's a formula.
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Yes, the formula versus being like some of this stuff
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I'm thinking about before I even.
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See a producer.
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So maybe I should try it myself, Maybe I should
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apply it right Serato. Serato's specifically studio made it so
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that person that has like fundamental music understanding and maybe
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has that ear. The way that they designed it, they
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knew that person existed. They knew that they there were
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people that wanted to explore other realms within music and
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not just record.
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They knew that.
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So everything about the way the doll works is so intentional.
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So it's a music okay, So it's a dodge. It's
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a digital audio workstation, and basically that's where you create music.
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You produce their sounds. There's effects.
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This is the way that you sequence and build a song,
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right from from the very first kick to the last
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element that you want to add. Right and within this
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software you can I'm sorry, you can also sample. You
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can also integrate other Serrado products that allow you to
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sample and chop samples to the finest millisecond. Things that
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are virtually impossible. Are some of the goats have done it,
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but they've made it so you can replicate those those
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processes inside of this program, and I'm like, oh, I've
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always been interested in micro chopping and figuring out that
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one little ah in the Eisley Brothers song.
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I want to take that one little ah.
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STO software has made it so I can do that,
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and then and then the STEM technology if I want
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to piece it apart and just take the baseline right.
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It also teaches you music theory in a way that
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it's color coded. Me personally, I see color when I
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hear sounds, So the way it's designed, it's color graded
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based on like low end high end frequency. That is
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great for other types of visual arn visual learners.
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Il Camilla is here. We are talking music tech, scienceinologists,
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among other things, the tech of music. It's Black Music Month.
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Let's do it, KBLA talk fifteen eighty come Problems in
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the Black. There's so much going on. Is a beautiful
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gathering at cal State LA today which is going to
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be broadcasting stream to all the cal State campuses all
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over in celebration of June teenth, LA civil rights and
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the cal State system. And I get to MC that
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so you'll be able to see the stream later. We've
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got tech Lamurg here in the studio. We have our
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June teenth in one week, which is free and it's
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going to be at the Bive and is going to
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be food and entertainment and all you have to do
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is go to KBLA fifteen eighty dot com to register. Tomorrow,
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there's an important cannabis workshop going on right across the
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street for people that want to get into the cannabis industry.
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That's at the Life Development University. So we just have
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a lot going on, but it's all productive in the
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middle of crazy in Washington in the world. We are
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over here making things, building things, celebrating things, understanding things,
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and educating each other so we can do better. So
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we're talking about you being a music technologist, but coming
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from the artist's side into the technology, not coming from
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the want to say geek, Well, I just did side
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into the you know what I mean, because a lot
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of times folks start on the computer and then they
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build sounds.
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But you, I don't know where did you start rapping?
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Was that at a club, a street corner, in a classroom.
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Bed bathtom family functions on the low school bathrooms. When
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I was ditching in the car, in the back wherever
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wherever I could you know, shout out to my cousins
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and my dad and everybody that just got me so
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hip hop focused very very very early. And both of
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my dads were bodyguards. One was for Solar Records and
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my dad at Death Row and just being submerged.
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Well that's range from so large to death Row rap,
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just all around.
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Yeah, So obviously you came into it organically and then
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from the art, from the lyrics, from the culture into
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the technology.
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Yes, I was making beats then for.
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Real really yeah, and not Dougie Fresh style you mean,
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like on computers and stuff.
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Yeah, but even on hardware too, or I was beat
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boxing and figuring out a way to replicate that using
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my cousin's hand me down equipment. But right, yeah, I
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just I just you know, like I said earlier, I
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just wasn't comfortable in owning that.
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But I think a lot of artists are like that.
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They're like intimidated by the technology. I mean, maybe not
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as much now, but I know for sure, like that's
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that's been a story for a lot of people. When
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I first started on television, for many years, I would
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sit with the editor and I would tell them what
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edits I wanted and they would always say, oh, that
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doesn't go with that. You know, that's not a good cut.
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And when I started my own company, then I learned
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final cut Pro and I was like, a ha, I'll
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put whatever I want together. Oh well, maybe that doesn't work,
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or maybe it does or And I realize that now
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so much of the technology is user friendly to where
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you don't have to have you know, you don't have
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to be doing high level coding to simply make a
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beat or edit a video or you know, whatever you're
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trying to do.
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And that's why I think AI helps streamline processes for
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some people.
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You know, I see you give me an example how
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that would work.
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Shoot, okay, for example, for the multi faceted artists that
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maybe isn't touring during okay, let's say during the pandemic,
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you're not doing shows, You're not going to venues and
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physically performing. So in lieu of that, what can you do?
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set up a multi angle you know, situation where you're
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being captured on both sides.
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So where does AI come into that?
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how you want it to be.
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You wanted to switch from camera A to B.
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You can just put that into a program now and
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it'll automate to where it's giving you that you know
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versus now, I got to set up a cameraman here
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a camera, I got to hire these people.
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Now does a switcher a switcher?
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user friendly. AI takes some of that that that that
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barrier out of the technological barrier tech savvy, which is
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interesting because a.
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itself of AI. And what you're saying is that the
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artificial intelligence, which should really be called artificial regurgitation is
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is making it easier, making it more user friendly, less
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intimidating in some way.
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I think it depends on who made it, what the
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intention was behind the design, and like that. This is
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not a blanket statement across everything. Some things are just
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siphoning IP.
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what most AI does is aggregate information and then spit
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it out or repurpose it and real really fast, really
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faster than we can do it.
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Yes, yeah, but your human mind is ever evolving and
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it still feeds that machine.
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Right, And we can make something out of nothing. AI
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doesn't make something out of nothing, and that makes something
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out of everything, which is also good in the sense
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of having access to the everything.
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Like AI can help with your performance.
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Let's say you don't have an MD, you don't have
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somebody that's mapping out all the technical and creative aspects
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of your performance.
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Music director, not medical doctor.
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Sorry, y'all, thank you, thank you, But like also, you know,
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it can do the job of many other people when
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you don't have the funds to pay.
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Still got to pay that AI bill though, right.
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You do, And there's dev's behind that, And that's why
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I feel like black and brown people should get more
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behind the scenes of that.
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Don't let it.
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I'm laughing because I can tell you're used to talking
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to other music technologists. She means developers, Yes, yes, developers
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more more more Black people need to death. And what
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would it take for that to happen? I mean, why
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aren't we in the space?
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I think we're definitely in the space. I think the
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people that are in the space. Just maybe need to
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figure out creative and more approachable ways of sharing that information,
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Like we don't need the manual version, you know what
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I'm saying, Like, maybe we need a simplified version of
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how to use this thing and then show.
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People where it can be useful.
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Maybe make a product list of you know, of different
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AI tools that are found to be useful, you know,
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in medical, in medical aspects and fintech, in project technology.
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Sorry y'all music, No, We're used to it.
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That's kind of my job.
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People come in who are so deep into their area
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of work that they speak in you know, acronyms and
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stuff and in shortcuts, and at my.
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Job, don't be embarrassed.
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That means you know what you're doing, and I just
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sit here and sort of add subtitles.
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But yeah, so people are.
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In these different areas you're saying, financial technology or developers
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or whatever they are, and that that in order to
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have more black people get into the space, which was
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something you called for, that maybe they need to make
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make that path more readily visible, more.
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Talks, more actual conversations about it instead of just hard
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stances on either side about it without.
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Doing the research.
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Why don't we do like beta testing groups, Like if
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we can link up and have coffee, why don't we
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like see what new software Dominique came up with or
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her new idea that can lead to some sort of
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tool that we can use, and then we then we
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help grow it.
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You know.
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Yeah, Morris says Ai scares the boohoo out of people.
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Dominique.
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Well, yeah, that's kind of what we're talking about.
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How do we get past that?
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Uh?
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Ill Camille aka Camille Davis of Teklamert is.
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Here to help you figure it out.
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If you got a question, it's not too late to
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call eight hundred and nine two oh fifteen eighties News,
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Traffic and Sports right now, then more only right here.
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Camille Davis is here aka Ill Camille. So is is
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you one your rapper name and the other one is
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your tech Lamert name? Or you are they're all one?
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They're all they're all one? Okay? Yeah?
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And my producer name is Khalifia Brown.
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Khalifia Brown. See what I'm saying. You're not even a Gemini, right, sad?
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So oh just as good?
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Yeah, gym, just as good. We're opposites that that attract. Indeed,
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I'm a Gemini.
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Can you tell? All right?
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So you have all of these different camilles that are
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all part of the process of We're not going to
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call it hustle culture of working smarter not harder. If
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I'm an artist and I want to work smarter, not harder,
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and up my game. As far as the technology and
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understanding getting away from the fear, you know of this
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technology that Morris is talking about people being afraid, and
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I think it's some of it is generational.
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How can tech Lamert help?
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Techlimert can help because we make ourselves available as community members.
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First.
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I think asking questions and just you know, having a
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little bit of a social layer can lead to learning
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and information exchange. So that started with me. I just
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got curious about the way Techlamert operates. I had a
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friend that was deeply involved, deeply invested in I've seen
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what she was building within the organization. And it doesn't
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have to be techlamerk. There's people all around. I ask
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my cousins, I neighbor, whoever got the information?
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I mean, I asked my kid, but he gets really
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tired of it.
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I ask kids all the time.
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Says, I'm not your IT department, And I say yes
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you are, Yes you are, because if I'm paying your
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bills and you're my IT department, that's kind of how
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that go.
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Let's go to Kevin calling us from the ten free Way.
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Good morning, Kevin, good morning.
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What's on your mind? And why are we on speakerphone
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so that you sound like you're in the Himalayas?
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Okay, well let me let me take y'all.
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Thank you? You sound better now, yes, much better? Thank you.
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Well, first of all, I want to compliment you on
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this subject matter. I've been involved with technology, I'm going
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to age myself since the mid eighties, and you know,
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in my recent position CEO of Business at Institute where
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Business Public Policy think think we've been promoting technology, but
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I use my platform as an African American to make
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sure that we don't leave our community behind. And so
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this discussion is very important. I'm going to adopt, if
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you don't mind, the phrase artificial artificial regurgitation. That's a
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perfect capture. That's a perfect capture. Well, you know, I
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used to do design data centers, so you know I
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understand exactly how it works. But I think that what
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you're doing, you're taking the mystery out of artificial intelligence,
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and you're preserving the opportunity for people to still think
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critically but also expand their knowledge and apply their experiential
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experiential knowledge to using AI. So you know, I think
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that it'll really be helpful because at the Vision Theater
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and with Techna Mert, I was one of the people
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that interviewed Idris in the very beginning. Sometimes I'm a
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past president. Yeah, yeah, I'm a past president of UCLA
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Block Alumni, and so we've been deeply involved. I grew
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up right off Norton and soccer. My parents bought a
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house in nineteen sixty seven, so you know that space
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is very near and dear in my heart. My question
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is is it possible for us to do a conference
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or event of some kind to bring people together to
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remove the fear, to have panels that remove the mystery
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and encourage our children, especially educationally, how to leverage this
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technology not only in their learning process, but also business
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people that leverage digital assets and use this as a
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force multiplier.
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Got it.
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Yeah, some great points, Kevin Well. I know Techlamert does
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conferences and such. I've been to a couple of them,
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but it does not intersect with what he's talking.
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About totally absolutely, and I think.
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Tech you know, I can't speak for the entire organization,
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but in some ways I feel like I can honestly
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say we've been attempting that through the Black to the
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Future conference is to bring all of that conversation, you know,
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the experts in all these many different fields and people
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that just want to get educated in one place and
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then all aspects of technology coexisting in the merd.
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I think people need needed to see that.
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And you know, I am proud that Techlamert is the
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organization that led that charge.
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Like we're the.
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Only to my knowledge, we're the only black owned conference,
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multi day conference where technology is the same it all.
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When is the next Black to the Future, I don't know.
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It's usually in the summer. It's not becoming up.
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But yeah, well we'll figure it out and you'll watch
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this space. But those are great points, and I think
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sometimes we don't track I mean, Tech Lamert, I know,
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no does Black to the Future, But as you pointed out, Camille,
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there are other organizations. There is different tech incubators, and
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there's starting to be more and more access here in
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South LA and other communities. And I think you're right, Kevin.
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The thing we have to do is demystify, you know,
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because there there there are separate issues. Morris is in
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the chat talking about the pushback on the AI data centers,
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and I think that's correct. We should be pushing back.
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The fact that this technology uses so much water when
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we're in drought is crazy. Are you gonna choose between
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AI and human life? But again, there are things we
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can do, and I think by demystifying that's part of it.
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For example, you why would you use AI when you
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don't have to? I wish some lawmaker would make it
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where the search engines wouldn't make you automatically go to
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AI unless you ask for it. Why I'm looking up
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where you know hughes veggie bowls are, and you got
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vegan bowls, and you've given me the AI.
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No, I don't need that. I just need the address,
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you know what I mean.
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I'm so I wish somebody would say would pass a
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lot that said, no, you don't automatically get AI just
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when you're trying to look up the cleaners.
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You have to ask for it.
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You have to click the AI button because all of
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that is using water, using resources. But those are separate issues,
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and I think someone else is in here saying that
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AI is here to stay forever, and more than likely
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that's true. So then, just like the Internet, it doesn't
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make sense to hide your head in the sand, no
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matter how scared you are, exact and so start somewhere.
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I mean, it sounds like there's so many questions here
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that are I'm sure you hear over and over again.
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B Bell wants to know who's regulating all of this.
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on the loose. And I think when we hear what
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was it anthropic this week saying well, maybe we should
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pause development until the humans catch up with the Frankenstein
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monster that we've created, it adds to that.
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actual physical irl and you know, in person experiences where
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people can talk about these things. To go back to
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Kevin's point about conferences, like that's where you can have
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a room where it's nothing but conversation, where you can
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bring up topic points, or bring up certain software or
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idea or.
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Laws save spaces, technological save spaces.
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No one's judging you that you don't know.
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No one's judging you.
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No question is dumb to me, anthropic just admit it
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that they don't know, and they are leaders in technology.
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So if they don't know, how am I supposed to know?
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We have to ask.
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Brenda Murray five one two three is asking you how
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do we determine if the AI used in trading is legit?
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And do you feel that AI generated content should have
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a warning label? The music videos are alarming because they're
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so good.
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Yeah, some of them look a little.
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You can tap to me, I think, well, they's starting
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to be those disclaimers. If you look, they're very small, you.
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Know, tiny disclaimers.
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Tiny disclaimers is also on the find very very very
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fine print when you sign up, you know, for the platforms.
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But but I also think, like maybe this is why
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we need to pay more attention for what we sign
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up for, you know, like maybe this is given us pass.
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Isn't it too late?
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I've already accepted terms of service that probably you know,
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claim my home and my first born because I didn't
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read them.
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Yeah, but you know, there's a million different app locations
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being you know, you don't have to like subscribe to
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all of them. You can still safeguard yourself from some
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you know, you don't have to go into things blind anymore.
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And that's all I'm saying.
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So you're saying most AI already does have labels.
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On it tucked yes, you know, or or the phrasing
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of the language it just again takes you in circles
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and means nothing and you don't know, or or it
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says a lot and you just can't interpret it.
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But interpretation is.
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Like key YouTube is saying they're now going to automatically
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label stuff even if the creators don't. Well there's annoying smile.
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Yeah, I mean they're doing that already.
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They're doing it.
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The Musicians Union just sue the record labels over the
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licensing around AI, and and I guess some cities are
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I don't know if they're asking for bigger labels or
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what it is, because I know New York they had
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this whole big bruhaha about adding labels and Camille, you're
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saying they're already.
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There, and for some like again, it's not a blanket
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statement across.
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I do feel like there's.
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Integral companies, you know, that are informing and they're meant
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to figure out systems to where artists can benefit better.
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You know, they're not trying to encroach and take IP
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and you know, so I do think there's like integral apps,
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and then I feel like there's some that are what
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are they called artificial regurgitators.
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Yeah, well, I mean really that's the whole concept though,
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of artificial intelligence, right. They bring together all this information
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and they sort it and make it quickly available to you.
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There's nothing wrong with being an aggregator. It's just that
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I think that people worship it as some kind of
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actual higher intelligence when it's just human intelligence.
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It's just it's just the bones of it.
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Like when I use music AI anything, it becomes the bones.
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It becomes the base layer of what I'm going to build.
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And even then, let's say I do a song completely
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in AI, I'm still melodically like feeding that. I'm telling
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it what to do, right, and I'm hoping it responds.
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But I got to perform in front of you, Dominique.
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I can't go get my AI person to do it
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for me.
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You're gonna be like, no, Camille, oh you can.
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Milli Vanilli, that sucker. But I mean my point is,
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and we don't.
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I don't mean to we always end up talking about AI,
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but that's partly because it's coming from the KBLA delegation
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and having these questions in New York. The ads are
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saying they must identify them as synthetic performers, and I
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really like that title. I'm wondering if there'll be a
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band called that Synthetic Performers. I mean, at some point,
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you're right, we do want a human to get on
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the mic.
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Probably you do, because one thing I thought about this
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one thing AI can't do is perform that composition live
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in front of an audience and then get the feedback
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in real time. Does it know when you're not feeling
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the song?
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It's gonna continue to but it'll get there.
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It won't how because because the human interaction doesn't.
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Exist, So how does it? How does it retain? Like
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every nuanced look under lair in eye row.
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I mean, surely you saw the the optimist type robot,
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the Chinese robot where you know the guy stress tested it.
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It was making it run into walls and putting it
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into situations where the frying pan is on fire and
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it had a total meltdown. So it was clearly was
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responding and you saw the video of the Chinese Optimist
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model where it kicked the kid. So I mean they're
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responding to something just like you're. Maybe it's just a glitch.
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I don't know.
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I feel yes, yes, but I feel like it'll take us.
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So long to get to that state to where.
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It's not replacing no.
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Because you know why, because the impromptu component doesn't exist
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with that.
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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It's like, okay, can I go to song two because
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they're not rocking with song one? AI isn't unfortunately, not
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in the performance live concert space. Isn't that intuitive right
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now to assess whether sixty thousand people are actually happy
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with this acoustic version.
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Much like our president, they can't tell the difference between
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booze and cheers.
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You know, get the room, read the room.
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Not their specialty. Tech lamert can be found where.
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Tech lamert is right here in the neighborhood. But uh,
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you just check us out online. Tech tech lamert dot
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org is our website. Techlamert is our Instagram handle as well.
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And then and you where do we find you performing?
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I r L in real life, not a robot.
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I just performed with Ladies Love Loops and Basin Fader.
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So shout out to them. I was at Delicious Pizza
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last week and right now I'm just working on an album,
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so I probably won't be performing much.
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But you'll come back on the album.
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Miss I can't wait.
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All right, It's Black Music Month and we got more
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music ahead. On KBLA Talk fifteen eighty fifteen eighty, we
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are talking with Ill Camille aka Camille Davis of tech Lamert.
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The Audio Effect Series is a project that they have
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created using their own internal talent and all that they've
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learned as music technologists. Let's play a song off of
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this project.
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Will you introduce this song?
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Yes, this is Nino Baige and this is the Audio
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Effect Volume two track.
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Two audio Beige.
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Okay, this one from the tech Lamert project. Look for
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it on SoundCloud.
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Look for SoundCloud sound and then we have vinyl. So
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meet up with tech and we might give you a
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limited edition vie.
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You might come up Audio Effect Series.
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Check it out. The number is not available at present.
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The beep Ill Camille of tech Lamert. She's an MC,
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but also she is a music technologist and you actually
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can be too. I encourage you to join up with Techlamert.
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Get a hold of them. There on Instagram.
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They have tech lamert dot com and you can find
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out more. They've got programs, workshops, they have events, get
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into it. We don't have to be afraid. We can
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be forward thinking, forward looking. We do not have to
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be left behind. And by by the way, it's tec
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there's no h on that tech Lamert te c. Please
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connect with them. You can also connect with us. Were
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at KBLA fifteen eighty on every single platform, and we
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would love it if you'd like follow, subscribe, engage. All
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of that makes us stronger, keeps us around and keeps
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us in community. You can find me at the Premium
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radio that's dp R I M A and then radio.
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You'd better know how to spell that by now, and
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please talk to me even when I'm not on the mic.
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I love to engage with you on every platform. I
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even have a YouTube channel, and who knows, maybe I'll
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become a music or probably a talk technologist, talk technologists,
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political technologists. All of that is in the works and
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in the making. Tavis Smiley's got a ridiculously great show
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on tap for you today all three hours that's coming
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up next. You don't want to miss it. He streams
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on YouTube as well, and you can listen on our app.
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The K fifteen eighty app is free and it's available
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at the App Store, the Google Play Store, and we
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would love for you to get it on your phone anyway,
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so you can listen to us even when you are
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far away. You can take us with you, and we
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truly appreciate that. Like I said, all of that makes
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us strong. Like my father, the late great Poet Laureate
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of New Jersey, used to say, a person is either
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free or they are not free. There can be no
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apprenticeship for freedom. The words of my father, the late
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and Great Amery Baraka. Taking us home, my mama used
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to say, histories. Now, I always tell you we're making
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it together. Until next time. One love,
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May bla talk fifteen eighty. That's some original music that
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you're hearing right there, coming out of the organization known
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as tech Lamart, being joined in studio by Native Angelino,
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an MC and writer who also represents the Inland Empire.
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She Uh is here representing all that she's worked with,
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Patrice Russian, Moby Gabriel Garson, Montano, Kendrick Lamar, Doctor Dre Logic,
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Terras Martin and more. Camille il Camille aka Camille Davis. Welcome, Yes, ma'am,
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thank you, great to see you, welcome back.
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Thank you, thank you for having me.
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Yeah, so back intro that particular track that we just heard,
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it's part of a larger project.
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Yes, so the track that you heard was from one
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of twelve producers that made it to the point where
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we created a vinyl album called the Audio Effect, which
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which stems from the program tech Lamert Undefeated and Serato
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partner for We're in their second go round with that.
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Last year in July, we had about eighty folks from
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across the city apply in a tend three days worth
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the workshop music education, technology, creative networking, just in community
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building and so the vinyl that we brought for you.
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We really wanted you to have it.
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Thank you.
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Thanks specifically because of how you establish and set presidents
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and how we communicate and share information. That's what tech
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Lamert does.
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Right.
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So I'm an artist, but at tech Lamert I got
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a chance to learn and grow and do program and
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curriculum development and do program development and expand my brain
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in that way. So this program is that the Audio
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Effect represents beat makers and producers from the local ecosystem,
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and we teach music technology through a really cool program.
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Shout out to Serrato. They have Serrato Studio sample hex effects.
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We use those instruments as well as you know, other dolls,
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and we basically learn new techniques. We learn traditional techniques
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in sampling, composing, sound design, we do all the things.
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So that Vinyl is just to basically say we did that.
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Okay, well it is true.
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I mean I'm not an expert in this area, but
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it is true that an mc now or an artist
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now a singer, but any kind of artist has to
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know a little something about technology. Gone are the days
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where you just pull up to the studio and the
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engineer does everything right.
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I think, to be honest, I think it always was
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that I think there's sometimes like a very narrow minded
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mindset that saturates the creative world and tells you that
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that you only have to be one thing. But me personally,
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I feel like that's part of the West Coast DNA
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is that.
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We're multi you know, faceted, you know those things Mary,
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film and music married.
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So the technology was always present, you know what I mean,
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long as you got a keyboard is be pre computer.
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As long as you got a keyboard or just human technology,
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the technology was there, so we got we you know,
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and then and then we've been repurposing the original design
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of those things forever. So I think we're just owning
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that now. I can personally say I'm comfortable with identifying
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as a music technologist now.
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Shout out to my homegirl.
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Paris that introduced me to that term. And then I
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think I seen Georgia ann And and I think mad
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Lib say it too, and I was like, Okay, they're
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living in that way.
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you know, from the time before or future forward, They're
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always figuring out how to innovate, and that is you know,
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maybe it involves some hard hardwiring, or maybe some software development,
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person that can use human and mechanic mechanical technology to.
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and making something magical out of scraps or or or
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gold is something we've always done. I was having an
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how people are violating their tenants of hip hop, and
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I'm like, but to me, that doesn't even make sense
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because hip hop has always been about repurposing, reinventing, flipping
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the script. You know, whether it's a piece of linoleum
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or a dog gone sample beat. How can where is?
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gonna evolve with the times?
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with Miles Low about this all the time. He's a
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rap artist, yeah, shout out Myles, and he's using AI
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to his benefit, and as as an artist, doesn't mean
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all of his songs are not written from his brain.
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these you know, corporate creatives.
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can be honest, right, because I think there's a good
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majority of people that understand AI.
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for human input, feedback, output, none of that. Right that that.
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I think I think we're supposed to figure out how
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to accelerate and then kind of slim down our workflow.
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Of hustle culture, especially as it pertains to independent artists
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in this community. I feel like we outwork a lot
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of folks. And maybe I'm biased, but I just feel
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like the West Coast for everything that we bring and
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cultivate it put us in a state of hustle culture
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where we're just working maybe harder, but not smarter.
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gen Z and A who are not with the hustle culture.
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are making it easier, making us able to move away
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from that hustle culture into a more smarter, not harder framework.
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have to I really have to stand on things that
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say that like Serrato is a good product. Because of
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this right, I'm an artist that leaned more into songwriting
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and rapping and performance more than production because I wasn't
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comfortable not seeing a lot of women own that about
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themselves in the music space. I was like, oh, you
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just got to pair yourself with a super producer.
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apply it right Serato. Serato's specifically studio made it so
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that person that has like fundamental music understanding and maybe
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has that ear. The way that they designed it, they
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knew that person existed. They knew that they there were
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people that wanted to explore other realms within music and
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not just record.
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So everything about the way the doll works is so intentional.
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a digital audio workstation, and basically that's where you create music.
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You produce their sounds. There's effects.
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This is the way that you sequence and build a song,
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right from from the very first kick to the last
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element that you want to add. Right and within this
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software you can I'm sorry, you can also sample. You
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can also integrate other Serrado products that allow you to
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sample and chop samples to the finest millisecond. Things that
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are virtually impossible. Are some of the goats have done it,
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but they've made it so you can replicate those those
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processes inside of this program, and I'm like, oh, I've
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always been interested in micro chopping and figuring out that
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one little ah in the Eisley Brothers song.
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I want to take that one little ah.
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STO software has made it so I can do that,
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and then and then the STEM technology if I want
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to piece it apart and just take the baseline right.
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It also teaches you music theory in a way that
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it's color coded. Me personally, I see color when I
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hear sounds, So the way it's designed, it's color graded
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based on like low end high end frequency. That is
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great for other types of visual arn visual learners.
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Il Camilla is here. We are talking music tech, scienceinologists,
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among other things, the tech of music. It's Black Music Month.
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Let's do it, KBLA talk fifteen eighty come Problems in
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the Black. There's so much going on. Is a beautiful
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gathering at cal State LA today which is going to
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be broadcasting stream to all the cal State campuses all
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over in celebration of June teenth, LA civil rights and
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the cal State system. And I get to MC that
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so you'll be able to see the stream later. We've
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got tech Lamurg here in the studio. We have our
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June teenth in one week, which is free and it's
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going to be at the Bive and is going to
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be food and entertainment and all you have to do
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is go to KBLA fifteen eighty dot com to register. Tomorrow,
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there's an important cannabis workshop going on right across the
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street for people that want to get into the cannabis industry.
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That's at the Life Development University. So we just have
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a lot going on, but it's all productive in the
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middle of crazy in Washington in the world. We are
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over here making things, building things, celebrating things, understanding things,
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and educating each other so we can do better. So
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we're talking about you being a music technologist, but coming
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from the artist's side into the technology, not coming from
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the want to say geek, Well, I just did side
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into the you know what I mean, because a lot
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of times folks start on the computer and then they
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build sounds.
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But you, I don't know where did you start rapping?
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Bed bathtom family functions on the low school bathrooms. When
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I was ditching in the car, in the back wherever
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wherever I could you know, shout out to my cousins
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and my dad and everybody that just got me so
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hip hop focused very very very early. And both of
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my dads were bodyguards. One was for Solar Records and
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my dad at Death Row and just being submerged.
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Well that's range from so large to death Row rap,
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Yeah, So obviously you came into it organically and then
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from the art, from the lyrics, from the culture into
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the technology.
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like on computers and stuff.
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boxing and figuring out a way to replicate that using
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my cousin's hand me down equipment. But right, yeah, I
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just wasn't comfortable in owning that.
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They're like intimidated by the technology. I mean, maybe not
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as much now, but I know for sure, like that's
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that's been a story for a lot of people. When
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doesn't go with that. You know, that's not a good cut.
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final cut Pro and I was like, a ha, I'll
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so much of the technology is user friendly to where
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you don't have to have you know, you don't have
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Shoot, okay, for example, for the multi faceted artists that
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maybe isn't touring during okay, let's say during the pandemic,
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you're not doing shows, You're not going to venues and
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physically performing. So in lieu of that, what can you do?
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set up a multi angle you know, situation where you're
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being captured on both sides.
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AI comes into that because it's like you can either design.
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how you want it to be.
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You can just put that into a program now and
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it'll automate to where it's giving you that you know
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versus now, I got to set up a cameraman here
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a camera, I got to hire these people.
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Now does a switcher a switcher?
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user friendly. AI takes some of that that that that
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barrier out of the technological barrier tech savvy, which is
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itself of AI. And what you're saying is that the
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artificial intelligence, which should really be called artificial regurgitation is
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is making it easier, making it more user friendly, less
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intimidating in some way.
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intention was behind the design, and like that. This is
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not a blanket statement across everything. Some things are just
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siphoning IP.
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what most AI does is aggregate information and then spit
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it out or repurpose it and real really fast, really
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faster than we can do it.
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Yes, yeah, but your human mind is ever evolving and
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it still feeds that machine.
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Right, And we can make something out of nothing. AI
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doesn't make something out of nothing, and that makes something
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out of everything, which is also good in the sense
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of having access to the everything.
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Like AI can help with your performance.
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Let's say you don't have an MD, you don't have
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somebody that's mapping out all the technical and creative aspects
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of your performance.
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Music director, not medical doctor.
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Sorry, y'all, thank you, thank you, But like also, you know,
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it can do the job of many other people when
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you don't have the funds to pay.
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Still got to pay that AI bill though, right.
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You do, And there's dev's behind that, And that's why
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I feel like black and brown people should get more
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behind the scenes of that.
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Don't let it.
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I'm laughing because I can tell you're used to talking
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to other music technologists. She means developers, Yes, yes, developers
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more more more Black people need to death. And what
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would it take for that to happen? I mean, why
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aren't we in the space?
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I think we're definitely in the space. I think the
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people that are in the space. Just maybe need to
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figure out creative and more approachable ways of sharing that information,
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Like we don't need the manual version, you know what
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I'm saying, Like, maybe we need a simplified version of
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how to use this thing and then show.
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People where it can be useful.
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AI tools that are found to be useful, you know,
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in medical, in medical aspects and fintech, in project technology.
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Sorry y'all music, No, We're used to it.
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That's kind of my job.
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People come in who are so deep into their area
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of work that they speak in you know, acronyms and
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stuff and in shortcuts, and at my.
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Job, don't be embarrassed.
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That means you know what you're doing, and I just
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sit here and sort of add subtitles.
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But yeah, so people are.
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In these different areas you're saying, financial technology or developers
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or whatever they are, and that that in order to
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have more black people get into the space, which was
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something you called for, that maybe they need to make
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make that path more readily visible, more.
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Talks, more actual conversations about it instead of just hard
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stances on either side about it without.
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Doing the research.
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Why don't we do like beta testing groups, Like if
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we can link up and have coffee, why don't we
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like see what new software Dominique came up with or
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her new idea that can lead to some sort of
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tool that we can use, and then we then we
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help grow it.
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You know.
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Yeah, Morris says Ai scares the boohoo out of people.
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Dominique.
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Well, yeah, that's kind of what we're talking about.
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How do we get past that?
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Uh?
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Ill Camille aka Camille Davis of Teklamert is.
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Here to help you figure it out.
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If you got a question, it's not too late to
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call eight hundred and nine two oh fifteen eighties News,
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Traffic and Sports right now, then more only right here.
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Camille Davis is here aka Ill Camille. So is is
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you one your rapper name and the other one is
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your tech Lamert name? Or you are they're all one?
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They're all they're all one? Okay? Yeah?
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And my producer name is Khalifia Brown.
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Khalifia Brown. See what I'm saying. You're not even a Gemini, right, sad?
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So oh just as good?
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Yeah, gym, just as good. We're opposites that that attract. Indeed,
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I'm a Gemini.
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Can you tell? All right?
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So you have all of these different camilles that are
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all part of the process of We're not going to
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call it hustle culture of working smarter not harder. If
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I'm an artist and I want to work smarter, not harder,
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and up my game. As far as the technology and
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understanding getting away from the fear, you know of this
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technology that Morris is talking about people being afraid, and
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I think it's some of it is generational.
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How can tech Lamert help?
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Techlimert can help because we make ourselves available as community members.
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First.
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I think asking questions and just you know, having a
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little bit of a social layer can lead to learning
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and information exchange. So that started with me. I just
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got curious about the way Techlamert operates. I had a
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friend that was deeply involved, deeply invested in I've seen
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what she was building within the organization. And it doesn't
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have to be techlamerk. There's people all around. I ask
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my cousins, I neighbor, whoever got the information?
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I mean, I asked my kid, but he gets really
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tired of it.
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I ask kids all the time.
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Says, I'm not your IT department, And I say yes
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you are, Yes you are, because if I'm paying your
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bills and you're my IT department, that's kind of how
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that go.
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Let's go to Kevin calling us from the ten free Way.
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Good morning, Kevin, good morning.
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What's on your mind? And why are we on speakerphone
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so that you sound like you're in the Himalayas?
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Okay, well let me let me take y'all.
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Thank you? You sound better now, yes, much better? Thank you.
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Well, first of all, I want to compliment you on
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this subject matter. I've been involved with technology, I'm going
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to age myself since the mid eighties, and you know,
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in my recent position CEO of Business at Institute where
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Business Public Policy think think we've been promoting technology, but
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I use my platform as an African American to make
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sure that we don't leave our community behind. And so
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this discussion is very important. I'm going to adopt, if
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you don't mind, the phrase artificial artificial regurgitation. That's a
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perfect capture. That's a perfect capture. Well, you know, I
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used to do design data centers, so you know I
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understand exactly how it works. But I think that what
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you're doing, you're taking the mystery out of artificial intelligence,
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and you're preserving the opportunity for people to still think
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critically but also expand their knowledge and apply their experiential
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experiential knowledge to using AI. So you know, I think
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that it'll really be helpful because at the Vision Theater
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and with Techna Mert, I was one of the people
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that interviewed Idris in the very beginning. Sometimes I'm a
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past president. Yeah, yeah, I'm a past president of UCLA
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Block Alumni, and so we've been deeply involved. I grew
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up right off Norton and soccer. My parents bought a
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house in nineteen sixty seven, so you know that space
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is very near and dear in my heart. My question
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is is it possible for us to do a conference
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or event of some kind to bring people together to
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remove the fear, to have panels that remove the mystery
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and encourage our children, especially educationally, how to leverage this
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technology not only in their learning process, but also business
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people that leverage digital assets and use this as a
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force multiplier.
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Got it.
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Yeah, some great points, Kevin Well. I know Techlamert does
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conferences and such. I've been to a couple of them,
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but it does not intersect with what he's talking.
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About totally absolutely, and I think.
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Tech you know, I can't speak for the entire organization,
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but in some ways I feel like I can honestly
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say we've been attempting that through the Black to the
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Future conference is to bring all of that conversation, you know,
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the experts in all these many different fields and people
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that just want to get educated in one place and
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then all aspects of technology coexisting in the merd.
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I think people need needed to see that.
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And you know, I am proud that Techlamert is the
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organization that led that charge.
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Like we're the.
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Only to my knowledge, we're the only black owned conference,
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multi day conference where technology is the same it all.
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When is the next Black to the Future, I don't know.
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It's usually in the summer. It's not becoming up.
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But yeah, well we'll figure it out and you'll watch
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this space. But those are great points, and I think
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sometimes we don't track I mean, Tech Lamert, I know,
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no does Black to the Future, But as you pointed out, Camille,
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there are other organizations. There is different tech incubators, and
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there's starting to be more and more access here in
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South LA and other communities. And I think you're right, Kevin.
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The thing we have to do is demystify, you know,
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because there there there are separate issues. Morris is in
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the chat talking about the pushback on the AI data centers,
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and I think that's correct. We should be pushing back.
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The fact that this technology uses so much water when
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we're in drought is crazy. Are you gonna choose between
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AI and human life? But again, there are things we
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can do, and I think by demystifying that's part of it.
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For example, you why would you use AI when you
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don't have to? I wish some lawmaker would make it
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where the search engines wouldn't make you automatically go to
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AI unless you ask for it. Why I'm looking up
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where you know hughes veggie bowls are, and you got
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vegan bowls, and you've given me the AI.
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No, I don't need that. I just need the address,
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you know what I mean.
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I'm so I wish somebody would say would pass a
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lot that said, no, you don't automatically get AI just
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when you're trying to look up the cleaners.
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You have to ask for it.
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You have to click the AI button because all of
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that is using water, using resources. But those are separate issues,
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and I think someone else is in here saying that
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AI is here to stay forever, and more than likely
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that's true. So then, just like the Internet, it doesn't
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make sense to hide your head in the sand, no
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matter how scared you are, exact and so start somewhere.
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I mean, it sounds like there's so many questions here
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that are I'm sure you hear over and over again.
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B Bell wants to know who's regulating all of this.
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And that's what's scary about it is that AI is
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on the loose. And I think when we hear what
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was it anthropic this week saying well, maybe we should
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pause development until the humans catch up with the Frankenstein
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monster that we've created, it adds to that.
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Yeah, just circling back, that's why we need to have
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actual physical irl and you know, in person experiences where
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people can talk about these things. To go back to
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Kevin's point about conferences, like that's where you can have
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a room where it's nothing but conversation, where you can
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bring up topic points, or bring up certain software or
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idea or.
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Laws save spaces, technological save spaces.
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No one's judging you that you don't know.
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No one's judging you.
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No question is dumb to me, anthropic just admit it
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that they don't know, and they are leaders in technology.
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So if they don't know, how am I supposed to know?
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We have to ask.
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Brenda Murray five one two three is asking you how
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do we determine if the AI used in trading is legit?
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And do you feel that AI generated content should have
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a warning label? The music videos are alarming because they're
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so good.
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Yeah, some of them look a little.
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You can tap to me, I think, well, they's starting
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to be those disclaimers. If you look, they're very small, you.
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Know, tiny disclaimers.
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Tiny disclaimers is also on the find very very very
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fine print when you sign up, you know, for the platforms.
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But but I also think, like maybe this is why
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we need to pay more attention for what we sign
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up for, you know, like maybe this is given us pass.
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Isn't it too late?
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I've already accepted terms of service that probably you know,
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claim my home and my first born because I didn't
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read them.
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Yeah, but you know, there's a million different app locations
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being you know, you don't have to like subscribe to
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all of them. You can still safeguard yourself from some
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you know, you don't have to go into things blind anymore.
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And that's all I'm saying.
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So you're saying most AI already does have labels.
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On it tucked yes, you know, or or the phrasing
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of the language it just again takes you in circles
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and means nothing and you don't know, or or it
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says a lot and you just can't interpret it.
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But interpretation is.
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Like key YouTube is saying they're now going to automatically
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label stuff even if the creators don't. Well there's annoying smile.
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Yeah, I mean they're doing that already.
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They're doing it.
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The Musicians Union just sue the record labels over the
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licensing around AI, and and I guess some cities are
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I don't know if they're asking for bigger labels or
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what it is, because I know New York they had
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this whole big bruhaha about adding labels and Camille, you're
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saying they're already.
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There, and for some like again, it's not a blanket
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statement across.
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I do feel like there's.
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Integral companies, you know, that are informing and they're meant
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to figure out systems to where artists can benefit better.
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You know, they're not trying to encroach and take IP
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and you know, so I do think there's like integral apps,
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and then I feel like there's some that are what
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are they called artificial regurgitators.
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Yeah, well, I mean really that's the whole concept though,
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of artificial intelligence, right. They bring together all this information
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and they sort it and make it quickly available to you.
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There's nothing wrong with being an aggregator. It's just that
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I think that people worship it as some kind of
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actual higher intelligence when it's just human intelligence.
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It's just it's just the bones of it.
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Like when I use music AI anything, it becomes the bones.
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It becomes the base layer of what I'm going to build.
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And even then, let's say I do a song completely
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in AI, I'm still melodically like feeding that. I'm telling
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it what to do, right, and I'm hoping it responds.
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But I got to perform in front of you, Dominique.
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I can't go get my AI person to do it
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for me.
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You're gonna be like, no, Camille, oh you can.
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Milli Vanilli, that sucker. But I mean my point is,
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and we don't.
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I don't mean to we always end up talking about AI,
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but that's partly because it's coming from the KBLA delegation
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and having these questions in New York. The ads are
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saying they must identify them as synthetic performers, and I
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really like that title. I'm wondering if there'll be a
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band called that Synthetic Performers. I mean, at some point,
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you're right, we do want a human to get on
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the mic.
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Probably you do, because one thing I thought about this
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one thing AI can't do is perform that composition live
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in front of an audience and then get the feedback
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in real time. Does it know when you're not feeling
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the song?
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It's gonna continue to but it'll get there.
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It won't how because because the human interaction doesn't.
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Exist, So how does it? How does it retain? Like
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every nuanced look under lair in eye row.
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I mean, surely you saw the the optimist type robot,
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the Chinese robot where you know the guy stress tested it.
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It was making it run into walls and putting it
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into situations where the frying pan is on fire and
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it had a total meltdown. So it was clearly was
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responding and you saw the video of the Chinese Optimist
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model where it kicked the kid. So I mean they're
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responding to something just like you're. Maybe it's just a glitch.
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I don't know.
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I feel yes, yes, but I feel like it'll take us.
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So long to get to that state to where.
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It's not replacing no.
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Because you know why, because the impromptu component doesn't exist
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with that.
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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It's like, okay, can I go to song two because
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they're not rocking with song one? AI isn't unfortunately, not
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in the performance live concert space. Isn't that intuitive right
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now to assess whether sixty thousand people are actually happy
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with this acoustic version.
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Much like our president, they can't tell the difference between
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booze and cheers.
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You know, get the room, read the room.
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Not their specialty. Tech lamert can be found where.
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Tech lamert is right here in the neighborhood. But uh,
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you just check us out online. Tech tech lamert dot
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org is our website. Techlamert is our Instagram handle as well.
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And then and you where do we find you performing?
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I r L in real life, not a robot.
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I just performed with Ladies Love Loops and Basin Fader.
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So shout out to them. I was at Delicious Pizza
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last week and right now I'm just working on an album,
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so I probably won't be performing much.
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But you'll come back on the album.
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Miss I can't wait.
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All right, It's Black Music Month and we got more
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music ahead. On KBLA Talk fifteen eighty fifteen eighty, we
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are talking with Ill Camille aka Camille Davis of tech Lamert.
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The Audio Effect Series is a project that they have
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created using their own internal talent and all that they've
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learned as music technologists. Let's play a song off of
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this project.
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Will you introduce this song?
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Yes, this is Nino Baige and this is the Audio
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Effect Volume two track.
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Two audio Beige.
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Okay, this one from the tech Lamert project. Look for
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it on SoundCloud.
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Look for SoundCloud sound and then we have vinyl. So
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meet up with tech and we might give you a
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limited edition vie.
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You might come up Audio Effect Series.
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Check it out. The number is not available at present.
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The beep Ill Camille of tech Lamert. She's an MC,
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but also she is a music technologist and you actually
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can be too. I encourage you to join up with Techlamert.
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Get a hold of them. There on Instagram.
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They have tech lamert dot com and you can find
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out more. They've got programs, workshops, they have events, get
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into it. We don't have to be afraid. We can
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be forward thinking, forward looking. We do not have to
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be left behind. And by by the way, it's tec
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there's no h on that tech Lamert te c. Please
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connect with them. You can also connect with us. Were
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at KBLA fifteen eighty on every single platform, and we
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would love it if you'd like follow, subscribe, engage. All
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of that makes us stronger, keeps us around and keeps
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us in community. You can find me at the Premium
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radio that's dp R I M A and then radio.
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You'd better know how to spell that by now, and
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please talk to me even when I'm not on the mic.
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I love to engage with you on every platform. I
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even have a YouTube channel, and who knows, maybe I'll
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become a music or probably a talk technologist, talk technologists,
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political technologists. All of that is in the works and
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in the making. Tavis Smiley's got a ridiculously great show
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on tap for you today all three hours that's coming
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up next. You don't want to miss it. He streams
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on YouTube as well, and you can listen on our app.
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The K fifteen eighty app is free and it's available
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at the App Store, the Google Play Store, and we
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would love for you to get it on your phone anyway,
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so you can listen to us even when you are
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far away. You can take us with you, and we
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truly appreciate that. Like I said, all of that makes
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us strong. Like my father, the late great Poet Laureate
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of New Jersey, used to say, a person is either
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free or they are not free. There can be no
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apprenticeship for freedom. The words of my father, the late
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and Great Amery Baraka. Taking us home, my mama used
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to say, histories. Now, I always tell you we're making
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it together. Until next time. One love,
