Ryan Dawson on the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski - Was He a Villain or Prophet? - Fight Back Ep. 245

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Back with Ryan Dawson. We're just doing a mini interview.
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We'll see how mini it turns out to be.
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I'm a little hot.
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Your calendar is distracting me. RyanDawson.org.
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Look at Jake's eyes.
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I'm reading. You're reading the history. We weren't planning this interview.
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We were just talking about the Unabomber.
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Yeah, I'm kind of a Unabomber evangelist, so that'll come out.
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Either I'm bashing Lincoln or talking about Coach K. Coach K.
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Uncle Ted, Uncle Ted.
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I don't know his story that well. How many years
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was he active?
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Well, the FBI was looking for him for 30 years. Wow.
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Yeah.
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His brother told on him, the lowest.
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Snitched your own brother.
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Yeah.
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If your brother did something bad, it would never snitch
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my brother.
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It was really low because his manifesto was out, so
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he was stopping. It was over.
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And he snitched on his own brother.
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Yeah, he did.
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Wow, what a shitty brother.
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He was a child prodigy, mathematical genius. He was a
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victim of MKUltra.
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That's interesting. That is a real thing. I heard that. No,
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I saw that. Explain that a little bit.
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So the MKUltra is kind of misnomer. They think it's
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like Clockwork Orange.
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It's not.
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Yeah.
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It wasn't like that. Although the Federal Bureau of Narcotics
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did engage in some Clockwork Orange-y type of stuff.
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Drawing people, yeah.
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Yeah, Operation Midnight Climax and stuff. Slipping people LSD and
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watching them have sex. What do you gain from that?
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It's just perversion. That's like perversion. Yeah, yeah.
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Jerking off behind the glass.
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We're going to see the effects of LSD on this.
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And the effects of LSD, they just.
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Couldn't imagine you'd slip LSD and not know. A lot
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of that was in Vegas, by the way.
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Was that? Yeah, because they'd have these two-way mirrors, and
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they'd invite in celebrities and watch each other, but they'd
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slip them LSD.
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Talk about it. If you didn't know you were a doe,
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start tripping with some prostitute. Oh, my God.
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Well.
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Some guy jerking off behind the glass.
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Yeah, a bunch of spooks, like, recording it, too.
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A bunch of spooks.
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They really, you know, they almost got away with it
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all because they ordered it burned. And what happened was
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a cleric had a filing cabinet, like, in the wrong place.
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And those are the files that survived. Government incompetence. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
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government incompetence is just inevitable. But they almost buried the
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whole thing. It would have been, that's it. They just
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did it and got away with it.
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Yeah.
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Within MKUltra was a subgroup, NK Naomi, which was MKUltra
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on children. Ugh.
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Yeah.
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Most of the records are lost, correct? We just have, like,
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financial records and stuff, so we don't know everything they've done.
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We just know pieces of it.
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Well, we knew people in the program who talked also, but, yeah,
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there was only that cabinet that got the ball rolling. Then,
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you know, Internet kookery turned it into... They Jonesified it,
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if you know what I'm saying. He went full Alex.
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There are things that could be weird with it, guys,
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like Jolly Wesk potentially connected to killers. People just overjumped conclusions.
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MK is mind control, spelled with a K. They thought
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the Soviets had it. They thought North Korea had it.
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I'll tell you the results, though, because they're trying to
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make this Manchurian candidate type of thing, brainwashing Sidney Godfrey
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and these weird... Ding, again.
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Ding, ding. Same with Jolly West, by the way. Our
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bell represents a certain people. I need that. I'm buying
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that bell. I'm going to buy your bell and start
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using it.
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I need it. I'll sign it.
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I'll credit you for it, though.
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Let's go.
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Before we do jiu-jitsu, let's go get a bell.
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Bell.
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I'll sign it for you.
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Almost all the top MKU Ultra people are of the
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same group.
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Well, on both sides of the curtain, actually. What they realized, though,
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with all the brainwashing and drugs and everything, the most
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reliable way to get an assassin is just give them $ 100, 000.
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After all this stuff, it's like bribery is the most
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reliable thing. Just pay them and then have someone like,
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if you say anything, we'll shoot you, too. That's why
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I give you threat and pay. You don't need to brainwash.
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You don't need LSD. You don't need sleep deprivation. You
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don't need to erase their mind. Give a poor person
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a lot of money, and they'll shoot somebody for you.
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Yeah, there is a letter of Jolly West, though, saying
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he did succeed in implementing false memories and stuff.
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So it's hard to say how far they got.
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I could do that to any college girl. Yeah. I
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could talk to them for 20 minutes and make them bisexual.
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Yeah.
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Like it's just because they're just malleable. Like some people,
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you ever hypnotized somebody or seen a pro hypnotist? I mean,
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not professionally, but no, I'm not professional at it, but
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I can hypnotize people if they let me. And I
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always think they're faking. Cause it's like, what?
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Yeah. What the hell?
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They're not, they like, they're aware, like they're doing, like
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they're acting a role or something, but they, they can't
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stop themselves.
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Yeah.
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It's this weird thing. But to shoot someone, I mean,
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you don't want to be relying on psychological tricks and things.
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It's much, much more reliable to just go do X
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and you get cash. That's the most reliable thing. And
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you get a professional hitman too. Well, yeah, the better
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shot they are. If you're going to use a gun, yeah,
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just pay them. And use a cutout so you don't
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have a CIA agent giving the money. You have an intermediary.
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Radicalize them on Discord, for example, you know? Yeah. It
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may have been what happened with Tyler Robinson. Yeah, it
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could have been.
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Yeah, I think people are going too loony of that,
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but I think it's also very possible there's some foreign influence.
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There's a whole bunch of dumb shit about that.
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I think both sides are just too extreme.
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One, there's Tyler Robinson was alone, and the other side's
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going a little too far.
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I'm stuck in the middle like a weirdo.
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Well, you had this weird diversion where a guy claimed
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it was him who wasn't.
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That was weird.
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Ding again, by the way.
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Ding, ding, and they got found with child porn. Yeah. Yeah.
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Imagine my lack of shock.
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Yeah, shock.
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Imagine my lack of shock to steal from Mike Rivero.
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Of course he does. Yeah.
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Of course he does.
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Yeah. I got to the point where I'm like, of course.
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Every single time.
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You saw that with the Buffalo shooter, though. He was
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talking to spooks on Discord.
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Which one was the Buffalo shooter? Was that one of
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the Trump?
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I like not saying shooters' names because I don't like
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giving them information.
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There's so many Trump assassinations, they get them all mixed
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up now.
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But people will know. And he wrote on the gun...
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different things. And he was kind of reacting to what
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happened in, uh, in Wisconsin. A guy ran over people
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at a Christmas parade or the car. And that guy
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was reacting to the acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse, who he
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thought was like an evil racist Nazi. Twitter said it
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over and over.
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Well, could it, this all sort of be a form
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of like MK ultra to getting these easily susceptible people
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to go out and carry the, carry out the assassinations.
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This is the thing that they learned other than paying people.
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You don't really need to sit down, and brainwash somebody
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and drug them and erase their memory and all that.
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TV works very well. If you find someone who's dumb
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and susceptible, you just cast a wide net, you'll find
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some idiots.
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They might reach out in these Discord things.
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And that's how you get your expendables.
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They find a girl or a tranny in that one
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guy's place to encourage him to do something.
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Isolation works. So if you get someone that doesn't have
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a social network or anything, they're so eager to identify... Yes.
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That they're very malleable. But it's no like special deep
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psychological tricks. You don't need drugs at all. You don't
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need to deprive them of sleep. Although all those things aid.
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But they're still using psychological manipulation. That's probably what they
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found was the best way to do it.
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The lemming effect works well. But this, you can find
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like some of these people do stuff in their head.
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It's all righteous. They think I'm killing a Nazi or whatever. No,
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you're not. But in their mind, to their little group,
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their chat, their six people in Discord, that's their whole world.
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Yeah, and who knows?
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I'm not saying they are, but let's say these people
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could have all been plans.
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That's a possibility.
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Look at all the incels and trolls, too, that end
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up shooting schools.
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He didn't shoot anybody.
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Before he did shoot a school, he said incels. I
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was like, oh, well, yeah, he's definitely one of them.
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Is he incel or just won't admit the team he
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plays on? Might be like a Lindsey Graham type of...
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He got all the gay signs, let's put it that way. No.
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He was staring a hole through you, Jake.
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Oh, I'm so glad I'm cut out of that picture
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that went viral.
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Look, some people just have gay mannerisms. It doesn't mean
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they're gay, but that guy's gay.
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I knew that. I just kind of ignored it.
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I don't care.
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I don't hate all gay people. I'm just like, whatever,
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but I.
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Don't want him adopting kids. I don't get it.
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But anyways, I don't want to give him more attention,
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but you're a hundred percent right about him.
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Yeah.
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You did tell me. I stay away from that guy.
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So I warned you.
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Didn't listen. Thank you for trying.
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It's you can just grifter is going to grift man. And, uh,
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I don't even want to spend time.
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I don't know. Yeah. Let's not talk about him anymore,
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but yeah, whatever.
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He's a.
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Talk about the Unabomber. He wasn't a homo as far
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as I know.
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He would never understand the Unabomber. And most people won't because, uh,
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obviously the mass media, I want to say this straight up,
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bombing people through the mail is fucked up and wrong.
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He's a terrorist.
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He shouldn't have done that.
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Okay.
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But someone can do a bad thing and it doesn't
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negate all ideas they ever did. Like I said, he
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was a genius in math. He had some, his writing
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is prophetic.
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And, you know, I mean, I just pulled up on anything.
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You can say like Socrates is probably a pederast. It
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doesn't undermine everything he came up with. Jefferson had slaves.
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But definitely, you know, a net positive. People have flaws. Yep.
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He was a victim of MKUltra.
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He was probably schizophrenic. And he bombed some very evil... people, though.
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A couple of them were Epstein networkers. Before anyone knew
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who Epstein was.
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Was it two or more of the people who were
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literally talking to Epstein in the Epstein files that he bombed?
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So it showed you he was targeting bad people.
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That was like, once I saw it, I was like, wow. Yeah,
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maybe look into him a little more when I saw that.
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Hey, show me your age.
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And obviously he didn't probably know about Epstein, but he
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knew about that network. It was that same network that
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Epstein was part of.
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Epstein was brand new when Ted hit those targets. So
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we know Epstein was prominent enough in 93 to be
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meeting Bill Clinton in the West Wing. And it's not
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like he just started at that level. He had been
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doing it for a while. So it's possible Ted did
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know about Epstein because Epstein did target science and technology
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at universities. And that's Ted Circle's math and tech. I mean,
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he was definitely intelligent on that, and he knew it.
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remove Epstein out of the picture. It's not like Epstein
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created that network by himself. He entered a preexisting network
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that was already doing this crap.
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And it's still running almost certainly.
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Yeah, and people talk about Palantir and all this today.
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Good for you. But Uncle Ted was talking about using...
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drugs to make people compliant, SSRIs, robots, which is AI.
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But he was saying, imagine when it can do this
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and that. He was talking about total surveillance control, loss
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of privacy, the ills of technology. And he wasn't anti-tech.
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The full sentence is technological society.
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Exactly what's happening today.
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And technological society is going in a bad direction. And
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it's not that like, oh, well, we shouldn't have life-saving
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drugs or electricity. That's not what his point. His point
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was you can't divorce that from the politics and economic
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incentives that take it in the wrong direction. So we
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do build nuclear weapons. We do gain of function research
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on viruses. Like we do a lot of really stupid
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things with technology that don't We don't need to be
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doing these kinds of things. There's no reason to like
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amplify a disease or what. So then you can beat it.
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If you wouldn't exist, if you didn't make a vaccine,
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we created, we've got an Island of trash in the ocean,
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larger than Texas.
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Damn.
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You know? And so Ted wasn't talking about what we
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could or ought to do. He was talking about.
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What we are doing and.
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With the way he saw it, he says, yeah, but
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what you will do, what's really going to happen from this,
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like you're not, What they're really going to do with
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AI is they're going to get rid of cash. You're
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going to be in a minority report situation where they
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can just keep you from buying and selling. Very biblical.
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They can just cut you off.
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You've already been cut off. We're definitely going to be
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cut off. You've lost almost everything. Banking.
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Can't use any digital stuff except Substack. But Uncle Ted
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was Uncle Ted. Ted Kaczynski was talking about these things.
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He was saying it.
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I'm looking at this right now. The future of.
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Tech will be, if you look at the tyrants of
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the past, they would never have the level control over
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their peasants that our class is going to have. They
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have your metadata. You're so dependent on technology. So if
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they strip it away, you can't compete with all the
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others who do have it. You're not allowed to have it.
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And he saw it as a loss of autonomy. And
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he had this overarching theory of, The reason so many people,
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despite the graces of technology that we have, are miserable and,
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you know, all these people are on antidepressants and narcissism,
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all these different psychological problems are a byproduct of technological society,
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Ted thinks, because aside from the physical evolution, biological, a
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lot of time put into like, oh, well, we have
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thumbs because of this and I don't know. He said
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there's alongside that, parallel to that, is a psychological evolution
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that your sense of aesthetics, which you find beautiful, stars,
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clean water, we primarily evolved in a certain state where
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people had to actualize their potentials in a certain amount
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of physical work, a certain amount of intellectual, social, and
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creative activities you had in the tribe to get things done.
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And it satisfies you. And autonomy is key on all
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these things. Some people, you have a strong drive for
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physical potential.
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I think physical and mental are connected.
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Yeah, Bruce Lee.
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We've known that all. Most people have agreed all throughout history,
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but now that's like.
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It's all connected. And the more potential you have, some
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people are more lean toward they need more academic activity,
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but everyone needs a certain... No one has zero.
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We need a balance.
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You got to have physical activity. And so.
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Most of farming, hunting, and things, fishing, it took some
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minimal amount of physical activity and social activity to do
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these things, and they're fulfilling. Dan Bilzerian is talking about
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how hedonism failed, and Ted wrote about this too. He's like,
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if you don't put effort in, it doesn't have value.
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Yes.
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The object doesn't have value in and of itself. It
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has value because of the struggle it took to obtain it.
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And we're so.
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It's counterintuitive. Like when you can just go to the
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refrigerator and get ice and you say, okay, well, that
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physical need has been taken away. It's been minimized to
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the point where it takes almost no effort to get
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your physical needs. That's a good thing. We live longer,
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you get foodies, so you can spend time on something else.
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But what you're removing when you just give things to
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people is the process that it used to take to
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acquire those things has also been stripped away. And that
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process is what was giving you a sense of fulfillment
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to exercise your autonomy and go through these actions makes
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you a healthy person. So if you don't find a
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surrogate activity to replace what would have been hunting, farming,
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then you're going to be miserable.
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Well, look at most of the guys who are the
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most miserable and stuff. These are guys that don't work
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out at all, don't have networks. I'm not going to
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say any names, but there's these miserable people.
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Even very wealthy people end up, overdosing on drugs.
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Yeah, that's really big.
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Even these millionaire rock stars and stuff. There's so much
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drug abuse. And like back to the women, like when
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it's too easy, it's not fun. Like when girls are
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like throwing themselves at you, it's like a turnoff. It's
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like you want to have a little bit of a chase.
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It was way more fun when I didn't have fame
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and I had to go try to convince a girl.
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There's like guys that pay for prostitutes. There's zero fun
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in that.
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The guy loves the one that makes him wait. Yeah.
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Like the ones that make you work are the ones
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that like, You probably have a little.
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Bit of a challenge. It's like.
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I can't get off of that.
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It'll never be... It'll never reach the level of zero
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like it did, but almost. You pay for something, you
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do it, you don't even remember the next day.
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The chase is the fun part.
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Like, you know, like, convincing it, doing something, the hard work,
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you know, hard day's labor. Especially, like, out with, like,
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friends and guys going and doing hard work together. There's
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something about that that it builds. Jiu-jitsu, training hard together.
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You build this bond.
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It's much more fulfilling to eat a fish you caught
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than the one you bought.
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Mm-hmm.
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No, exactly. I'm vegetarian, so if I grow vegetables, they
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taste a lot better. Of course.
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Growing it itself adds value to it because you had
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to put work in to obtain the goal. And Ted
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has this thing, he talks about the power process. It's
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a balance of obtaining goals that are not too hard
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and not too easy. The other day, a lot of
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guys were playing chess. And if you played like a kid,
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and he's not some genius. A five-year-old and you beat him,
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there's no pride in that. If you play some computer
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and it just destroys you, there's no joy in that.
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But if you play a friend that's about your level,
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and you might win, you might not, the game is
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fun regardless of who wins. You have to have a goal.
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There has to be a winner or you can't do
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the process. But the process is what gives it value,
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not the result.
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Off-subject, but what drove me to greatness is having Nick
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Diaz as a training partner.
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Because we would just battle. We were friends, but we
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would battle.
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I might win one day, he might win the next day.
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So it would just drive us to get better, better, better.
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But most guys I could just destroy so easily, so
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there's no real competition in that. I'm not competing with anyone.
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But having someone to compete with every day, it gave
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me constantly staying on.
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The same page. Winning is not what made it fun.
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Beating the crap out of White Belt is actually fantastic.
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You feel bad.
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We feel bad, yeah.
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But knowing I constantly had the competition with Nick every
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day showed up. Talking to Nate, he'd be like, yeah,
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we'd be driving home after. If you got the better
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of you, I'm excited. If you got the better of him,
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just not saying a word. He's like, if Gil beat
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my ass, I'd be getting lectured all.
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The way home. But just that competitive drive, that's what
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drove us to greatness.
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Yeah, and you both build off each other. This is
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what Ted is modeling for whatever the activity is. He's like,
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people have to have these outlets everywhere. to be psychologically healthy.
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Yes.
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It's so weird that the guy that wrote such a
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great manifesto on how to be psychologically healthy was so
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psychologically fucked up. Well, that's because they were torturing him.
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I mean, they MK opened him.
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It was at a college, right? They went and did
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some weird tests on him. They did.
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They ran a number on him, but his insight was good,
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but he, you know, he had.
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Maybe shouldn't have been bombing people. He was schizophrenic.
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Like, that's a real thing. Mm-hmm. He had it. Now,
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in the trial, they... He tried to argue that he
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was sane because he wanted the death penalty. Interesting.
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He didn't want to sit in jail forever.
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He did not want to live in jail with the noisy,
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dumb people.
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God, such dumb people in jail.
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That was his hell for him.
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It was the worst.
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His brother knew that, too. I've read the letters between
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the two of them.
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What a shitty brother. He is.
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He's so jealous of Ted his whole life.
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He's always smarter than him.
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Ted's smarter than everybody. They're like 160.
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Oh, you saying that? Interesting.
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The guy. I mean, there's very few people in a
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generation on that level. Some of the theorems and stuff
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he proved in math. It's like this writing isn't even
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his strength. It's something he did as a side quest.
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I'm going to read this later because I was skimming
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it right now on my phone. It's crazy.
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It's like, when did he write this? He was writing
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this in the 70s.
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He was foreseeing the things about the leftism where that
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was heading.
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Karen Culture, he explained that whole thing, how this was coming.
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There are social ills and racism, sexism. But it's become obsessive.
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It's like a borrowed morality. Some of the most militantly
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anti-racist people are some suburban white woman that is speaking
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on someone else's behalf.
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They don't think a black guy can get an ID.
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That could be offensive to so-and-so. We'll let them say that.
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It's not about the moral ill. It's about the sense
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of power that person gets. It's the control they get,
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but they have some moral justification. But that's not really
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the motive. It's the enjoyment they get on being able
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to browbeat on everybody for not being the Metallica song
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earlier than now.
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Yeah, I lived in San Francisco for a while, and
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I know these people so well. And me, obviously, being
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someone that doesn't bend to that stuff, just being like,
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they just want power.
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They're psychopaths. Hey, everyone.
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As a consequence of being truly a free speech podcast,
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I've been demonetized on YouTube, X, Facebook, and almost everywhere else.
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To be able to fund the podcast, I rely fully
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on support from viewers like you. You can support the
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podcast by going to fightbackpodcast.com, where you can buy merch
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or sign up to become a member, which will allow
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early access and extra content. I'm definitely not going anywhere,
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and I really appreciate all of your.
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Guys' support.
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And that's what he said. And because they don't have
501
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a proper power process, it's why they gravitate to these
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kind of psychotic things where they'll have some moral veneer of, oh,
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I'm doing this to help the gays or the women
504
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or the blacks or the whatever, the natives. Not that
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every case, some people generally, but a lot of people,
506
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it's just a psychological type. And if they didn't have
507
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those vehicles, they'd invent one. And that's like trans and
508
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stuff where everybody plays pretend.
509
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Now we need trans kids.
510
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It's literally a gay. If you got a guy pretending
511
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to be a woman, he's gay. And if he really
512
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thinks he's a girl.
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He's just the fact that they want us to play
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along with that. It's just like, shut the fuck up.
515
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:14.660
You know, I had a daughter like in Marin.
516
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People like, oh, it's not a real thing. It's like, yes,
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it is.
518
00:23:17.009 --> 00:23:19.069
I was around it when they're treating the trans get
519
00:23:19.109 --> 00:23:21.190
better than encouraging the kids to be trans. It's like
520
00:23:21.309 --> 00:23:23.480
it is a real thing. And it happens to more
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girls than men because, you know, girls are acceptable. So
522
00:23:26.660 --> 00:23:29.269
they want to be cool. They're a straight white person,
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but if they become trans, all of a sudden they
524
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get treated better.
525
00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:38.190
Well, the other thing about that is it's an escape
526
00:23:38.269 --> 00:23:42.839
ramp for white guilt. Yes. Where if they cling on
527
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to this, if they become gay or they become trans,
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I'm not saying there aren't people who aren't born gay,
529
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:50.740
but there's other people who just do it because... It's
530
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a victim. The attention to become a victim, whatever. But
531
00:23:53.740 --> 00:23:57.940
there's so... These poor white kids... Poor in the sense,
532
00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:01.059
not financially. Most of them are rich kids that do
533
00:24:01.099 --> 00:24:05.410
this shit. Yeah. And I'll tell you why. But these kids...
534
00:24:06.309 --> 00:24:08.950
I want to say kawaii so. I don't know the word.
535
00:24:08.970 --> 00:24:15.150
I'm losing English. But these unfortunate kids, they're just... They're
536
00:24:15.230 --> 00:24:18.369
pounding in their head how terrible they are because they
537
00:24:18.410 --> 00:24:23.440
were born white. And they're blaming... genetics for institutions like
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slavery and the genocide that that wasn't a byproduct of
539
00:24:27.019 --> 00:24:30.309
dna that was decisions made by governments.
540
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Yeah and and the ding ding people well.
541
00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:34.589
Yeah and it had nothing to do with whiteness like
542
00:24:34.630 --> 00:24:37.190
when the british empire was doing all that the irish
543
00:24:37.230 --> 00:24:39.190
weren't doing that and they're just as white as british
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people and the polish weren't doing that and they're just
545
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as white it wasn't a byproduct of being white it's
546
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a byproduct of power mm-hmm And powerful nations have always
547
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done that, whether it's the Mongolians or the Romans or
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the Chinese or whoever. It's not because of their race.
549
00:24:54.630 --> 00:24:56.690
It's because of the government and because of the power
550
00:24:56.730 --> 00:24:58.309
and resources. There's lots of bunch of reasons.
551
00:24:58.349 --> 00:24:59.029
People want to get rich.
552
00:24:58.970 --> 00:25:03.490
Off using slavery. But they blame slavery on racism. Like, no,
553
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.960
it's the other way around. They blame it on whiteness.
554
00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:09.460
And then so the people walk around with white guilt.
555
00:25:10.059 --> 00:25:12.559
And a huge chunk of the people who identify as
556
00:25:12.619 --> 00:25:14.420
trans are all white and all privileged.
557
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:14.660
Yeah.
558
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.319
Cause they feel bad about their position as they need
559
00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.369
a victim status. And this is, this is psychology. We're
560
00:25:20.390 --> 00:25:24.329
like in the system for modern technology, you got to
561
00:25:24.450 --> 00:25:26.690
force kids to sit there six hours a day at
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00:25:26.730 --> 00:25:31.019
a desk doing academic minutiae because somebody has got to
563
00:25:31.059 --> 00:25:35.019
run the machines later for the elites who just want elitists.
564
00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:38.819
I won't call me elite. These elitists, as George Carlin says,
565
00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:41.480
smart enough to run the machines and read the road signs. But,
566
00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:45.910
They want a rich man's playground. You're only there as
567
00:25:45.930 --> 00:25:49.269
the service industry until they can replace you with robots.
568
00:25:49.289 --> 00:25:51.809
Which might become insane. The only reason you're there, they'll
569
00:25:51.890 --> 00:25:55.089
farm out your daughters so that they can, your women,
570
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and enslave your men. And the men are going to
571
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get replaced by AI. Like, this is how dark it is.
572
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:04.019
You look at Ukraine, their women are being, their men
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are being killed, and their women, aren't they like flooding
574
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in Africans or something?
575
00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:11.500
Well, yeah, and they're forced... It's like 20% of women
576
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are involved in some type of prostitution.
577
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:15.039
That's what's economically viable.
578
00:26:15.059 --> 00:26:17.160
It's so, like, encouraged. It's just like, oh, it's not
579
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.400
a big deal. The sugar daddy sites and the OnlyFans.
580
00:26:20.549 --> 00:26:21.240
Ding, ding, ding.
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00:26:21.380 --> 00:26:23.829
Sugar daddies are just like women just.
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Empower yourself, girl.
583
00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:28.849
It's not empowering, but it's better. They look at it
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as they don't see the long term, and so they think,
585
00:26:32.289 --> 00:26:36.430
I don't want a job job. It makes way less.
586
00:26:36.990 --> 00:26:40.440
When you could make so much so easy... because you
587
00:26:40.460 --> 00:26:43.509
have nipples or whatever, like, because you have this. And
588
00:26:43.609 --> 00:26:45.970
so it's very alluring to them. The same reason, like,
589
00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:47.990
a lot of guys who sell drugs do that.
590
00:26:48.049 --> 00:26:48.309
Why?
591
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Because of the money.
592
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Because it's easy money.
593
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They can't make that money any other way, not even close.
594
00:26:53.529 --> 00:26:56.380
So that's why they're doing it. But Ted would argue
595
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that these activities didn't always exist. Like.
596
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.599
At least not at the scale, like, with OnlyFans and stuff.
597
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.960
Not with people who have all their needs met, you know? Yeah,
598
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because you're not doing it because you're starving. You live
599
00:27:12.269 --> 00:27:14.529
in a house, even if it's with your parents or parent.
600
00:27:14.549 --> 00:27:17.730
You're not in some dire straits where, like, I've got
601
00:27:17.750 --> 00:27:20.829
to sell drugs to make money to live. No. Almost
602
00:27:20.950 --> 00:27:24.220
all these people have a place to live. They've got
603
00:27:24.259 --> 00:27:29.019
a pretty good standard of living. And it's first world, too.
604
00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:32.539
That's not why they do it. And a lot of
605
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.650
drug addicts, it's not just because of the chemical addiction.
606
00:27:36.710 --> 00:27:39.869
That is a thing, but It's whatever drove him to
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00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:40.769
do it the first time.
608
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Loneliness, boredom.
609
00:27:41.490 --> 00:27:44.109
Makes him do it the second time. There's an experiment
610
00:27:44.170 --> 00:27:48.210
called the rat cage. At first, it seemed like an
611
00:27:48.269 --> 00:27:50.839
airtight case. Oh, drugs are addictive. And they tested them
612
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.670
on rats. They put morphine in water. The rats would
613
00:27:53.690 --> 00:27:56.440
go just drink it until they died. And the guy
614
00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:58.420
came along and noticed, you know, all these rats are
615
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:00.240
in an itty-bitty cage. There's nothing there but a water
616
00:28:00.259 --> 00:28:01.980
bottle with morphine. They had nothing else to do. They
617
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.140
just went up until they died.
618
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:04.059
That's a good point.
619
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.869
So he made a really huge cage. He put a
620
00:28:07.910 --> 00:28:09.710
bunch of rats in it. He gave them stuff to
621
00:28:09.730 --> 00:28:11.390
play with and all, and he did the same thing,
622
00:28:11.430 --> 00:28:13.390
the water and the morphine. That's what happened.
623
00:28:13.890 --> 00:28:14.839
They went and did other shit.
624
00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:17.299
They went and did other stuff. They'd see the morphine,
625
00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:19.380
and then they'd drink the water.
626
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.059
That's a good point. During COVID, I had nothing to do.
627
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:23.420
That was the only time I had to be careful
628
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:24.220
not to start doing drugs.
629
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.579
The reason people start on whatever drug is because they're
630
00:28:27.619 --> 00:28:30.609
bored or because they're in a cage. It's not a
631
00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:33.680
physical cage, but they're caged in a way, cut off.
632
00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:37.400
And it's the weirdest thing to me is, like, there's
633
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.099
people I've met here in Vegas. You know, they got
634
00:28:39.140 --> 00:28:41.789
all this money. They have all these people around everywhere.
635
00:28:42.650 --> 00:28:43.750
And what do they want to do? They want to
636
00:28:43.789 --> 00:28:50.730
go drinking new drugs. But it's relationships that give you fulfillment.
637
00:28:51.210 --> 00:28:51.470
Yes.
638
00:28:51.529 --> 00:28:54.049
Going back to what Bilzerian, you know, he's playing paintball.
639
00:28:54.069 --> 00:28:55.410
Whatever your activity is.
640
00:28:55.430 --> 00:28:56.710
Yeah.
641
00:28:57.710 --> 00:29:00.640
I'm bringing him up because I feel like people will
642
00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:03.859
listen to it. If I said it. or your dad
643
00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:06.349
or whoever, like, oh, you're just coping because you can't
644
00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:10.309
do this. There's a guy who had every girl he wanted,
645
00:29:10.349 --> 00:29:12.589
private jets. Yeah, on a boat with 20 chicks or whatever,
646
00:29:12.609 --> 00:29:14.569
and he's telling you the hedonism doesn't matter.
647
00:29:14.609 --> 00:29:18.750
It's about friendships. I was on a paintball team until
648
00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:21.589
I got kicked off. They went too serious. That's why
649
00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:22.950
I had to play like four days a week and
650
00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:23.829
I'm too busy right now.
651
00:29:24.109 --> 00:29:26.210
That shit was so fun. You're not holding up the team, Jake.
652
00:29:26.230 --> 00:29:27.599
No, I was walking the team up. But it was
653
00:29:27.630 --> 00:29:28.259
like so fun.
654
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:29.640
We were going once a week and it was such
655
00:29:29.700 --> 00:29:32.079
a great thing. But then Dan jumped like, dude, he's
656
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.079
really good. Jumped like four times a week, but it
657
00:29:34.099 --> 00:29:36.250
is so fun having a community event.
658
00:29:36.269 --> 00:29:38.559
I had an uncle who was in Amway.
659
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:46.829
And he knew all the, unfortunately, we knew the Blackwater
660
00:29:46.869 --> 00:29:50.569
people and Eric Prince and those pricks. Those Blackwater guys
661
00:29:50.630 --> 00:29:52.329
are good. A paintball.
662
00:29:52.809 --> 00:29:53.180
I bet.
663
00:29:53.849 --> 00:29:55.970
I have a feeling it would cross to real combat
664
00:29:55.990 --> 00:29:58.049
because it learns you angles to shoot, how not to
665
00:29:58.089 --> 00:30:01.630
get shot. Obviously, paintballs are different. Communicating with your team
666
00:30:01.710 --> 00:30:04.130
because you've got to communicate. Like, I shoot, you move forward.
667
00:30:04.170 --> 00:30:06.309
There's so much strategy to it.
668
00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:09.210
It's like playing a lot for a year. It was
669
00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:09.809
so much fun.
670
00:30:09.990 --> 00:30:13.309
He had this big farm. We'd have, like, wooded hills,
671
00:30:13.390 --> 00:30:16.349
perfect place. I did not realize how lucky I was
672
00:30:16.369 --> 00:30:18.509
to be able to go play paintball with these people,
673
00:30:18.630 --> 00:30:21.640
this giant team. this is paintball is kind of new
674
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:22.140
back then.
675
00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:22.759
People are good.
676
00:30:22.779 --> 00:30:24.660
They could teach you how to play. Well, at first
677
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.700
I went and played paintball with them. I got wiped
678
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:27.700
out so bad.
679
00:30:27.740 --> 00:30:30.539
Where it's like, they have a smaller team or whatever.
680
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:31.660
Cause these guys, that's.
681
00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:32.339
What they live to do.
682
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:33.940
I was almost a million days in my life. The
683
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:35.579
first time I got invited to play paintball, I thought
684
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.240
it was going to be a chill thing. And I
685
00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:41.059
just got smoked. But instead I obsessed over it for
686
00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:44.099
like the next week and came back, did better, did better.
687
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.480
Like, Oh, these guys are serious. This is not just
688
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:47.079
fucking around.
689
00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:52.380
And that, you know, that involves social and physical activity
690
00:30:52.460 --> 00:30:53.440
and planning. Well, everyone helped me, too.
691
00:30:53.500 --> 00:30:56.400
Everyone gave me advice. Like, they were, oh, stand here,
692
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.940
do this. It wasn't like they were belittling me, you know?
693
00:30:59.019 --> 00:30:59.460
It's like.
694
00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:02.559
They were like, hey, shoot them, don't get shot.
695
00:31:02.660 --> 00:31:05.180
We've had all kinds of big UFC guys, like Mara,
696
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:06.579
all this, you.
697
00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:08.460
Know, DDP, all these big dudes coming out there playing,
698
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.140
and everyone just gets smoked at first.
699
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:10.700
DDP?
700
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:12.109
Yeah. Nice.
701
00:31:12.349 --> 00:31:15.450
He came out, a bunch of guys, cowboy, but... Fun time.
702
00:31:16.069 --> 00:31:18.450
But anyways, back to... Oh, yeah, we got here because
703
00:31:18.470 --> 00:31:18.950
of community.
704
00:31:19.650 --> 00:31:23.430
Like Bruce Lee would say, seek fulfillment, not pleasure. Pleasure
705
00:31:23.470 --> 00:31:25.990
is a temporary thing. There's nothing wrong with pleasure, but
706
00:31:26.009 --> 00:31:29.099
that's your goal. Like these people are looking for happiness
707
00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:34.140
and their happiness through pleasure. The long-term pleasure from a
708
00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:38.579
psychological point of view, you want to have that fulfillment
709
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.150
is like the opposite of background stress. Background stress, you
710
00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:44.769
don't know it's there until it finally leaves you. And
711
00:31:44.789 --> 00:31:45.630
then you're like, oh.
712
00:31:46.130 --> 00:31:48.529
Well, doing Molly, that's going to be pleasure, but that's
713
00:31:48.549 --> 00:31:50.319
not fulfillment. Like, tomorrow I'm not going to feel better.
714
00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:53.140
When I try to win world titles, that's not fulfillment.
715
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.559
It will make you feel worse later because a person judges,
716
00:31:57.900 --> 00:32:04.140
experiences pleasure based on their prior experiences. Yeah. People enjoy acceleration,
717
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.549
not velocity. And that physically is the same way. You
718
00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:09.829
can be on a plane going 500 miles an hour
719
00:32:09.849 --> 00:32:11.589
in the air and it seems like you're sitting still.
720
00:32:11.609 --> 00:32:15.769
But if you speed up or slow down, you feel it.
721
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.900
And it's the same thing with sorrow and happiness. It's
722
00:32:18.940 --> 00:32:23.029
where you're at versus where you're going that you actually process.
723
00:32:23.309 --> 00:32:25.869
It's the building process is fun to me. If I
724
00:32:25.890 --> 00:32:28.650
don't have projects I'm working on, I'm less happy. Once
725
00:32:28.710 --> 00:32:31.049
I retired from fighting, I was bored out of my mind.
726
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.059
Yeah, there's sometimes when I'm having fun with people and
727
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:36.920
I'm kind of thinking, I want to get back to work.
728
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.720
Yeah, right? We were out drinking and you're like, I
729
00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:42.019
just want to go to work. Let's just go talk
730
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:42.359
some business.
731
00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:43.900
Well, Lindsey Graham died. I was like, I need to
732
00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:45.960
write about this. That was exciting. I was like, come on,
733
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.759
this is the best day ever.
734
00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:48.240
Unless you picked a good night to go out drinking.
735
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:50.640
It's fine to go out and drink and stuff. It's
736
00:32:50.660 --> 00:32:51.180
not my.
737
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.809
No, I'm much more focused on work right now. I
738
00:32:53.900 --> 00:32:57.930
very rarely go out. It's good occasionally, but I'd rather
739
00:32:57.970 --> 00:33:03.230
go to my friends and brainstorm work ideas, talk about ding, ding, ding.
740
00:33:03.529 --> 00:33:08.230
It's a balance. But relationships should be... I've heard the
741
00:33:08.269 --> 00:33:09.910
Tate brothers say this too, and they're kind of in
742
00:33:09.930 --> 00:33:14.450
a Dan position where they just, you know, condone everybody. But,
743
00:33:15.089 --> 00:33:19.269
you know, the friendships and brotherhood and stuff is more valuable.
744
00:33:19.930 --> 00:33:24.309
It's not something you can really buy. And I'm not saying, like, oh,
745
00:33:24.380 --> 00:33:27.059
I'm not rejecting materialism completely or anything.
746
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:28.779
Money's important, but it's not everything.
747
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:29.160
Yeah, it is.
748
00:33:29.220 --> 00:33:33.380
But it's, from an Uncle Ted point of view, like
749
00:33:33.420 --> 00:33:34.759
the aim, if we want to get rid of this
750
00:33:35.549 --> 00:33:37.869
Sickness in our society where we've got like a third,
751
00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:40.609
I think a third of women are on antidepressants.
752
00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:41.170
Damn.
753
00:33:41.910 --> 00:33:43.150
In America. They're not in the world.
754
00:33:43.190 --> 00:33:44.369
That's like a pretty heavy drug.
755
00:33:44.390 --> 00:33:47.450
Yeah. It'll mess you up. And it doesn't, there's no
756
00:33:47.509 --> 00:33:52.990
real proof. This idea about serotonin uptake, to me, it
757
00:33:53.029 --> 00:33:55.250
reminds me of the science of the four humors, like
758
00:33:55.289 --> 00:33:57.349
everything just based on blood, bile, and phlegm.
759
00:33:57.369 --> 00:33:57.750
No, it isn't.
760
00:33:59.089 --> 00:34:02.930
And now it's just, okay, progesterone, testosterone, estrogen. They're like, yes,
761
00:34:02.950 --> 00:34:04.089
those are hormones. Those are real.
762
00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:05.190
They are real.
763
00:34:05.230 --> 00:34:08.869
It's not going to solve the problems in your life.
764
00:34:08.949 --> 00:34:12.389
It's putting the cart before the horse. It's like your
765
00:34:12.469 --> 00:34:16.460
brain and your gut, actually, but they decide to fire
766
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.840
those things off based on what's happening.
767
00:34:18.860 --> 00:34:19.940
They're there for a reason.
768
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.920
You've got to fix the environment or it'll never.
769
00:34:22.940 --> 00:34:24.780
If you have anxiety in your gut and stuff, it's
770
00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:25.840
probably because something's wrong.
771
00:34:26.420 --> 00:34:27.099
Or you're a ginger. Yeah.
772
00:34:28.809 --> 00:34:32.269
Or a ding ding they don't have a soul no
773
00:34:32.289 --> 00:34:34.570
but you have to fix the issues that's crazy if
774
00:34:34.610 --> 00:34:36.730
they're women or an antidepressant they probably go to their
775
00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:39.190
you know psychologists or like oh you're crazy get you
776
00:34:39.210 --> 00:34:40.230
on these drugs.
777
00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:43.260
Part of it's just big pharma pushing it for profiteering
778
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.090
but a lot of them they have genuine sorrow that
779
00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:47.579
they don't know how to get out of they're depressed
780
00:34:48.139 --> 00:34:51.219
it's like yeah because look at how you live they
781
00:34:51.460 --> 00:34:55.840
assume deep sorrow comes from someone you love died or
782
00:34:55.860 --> 00:35:00.050
something like those things are obvious right yeah But there
783
00:35:00.110 --> 00:35:04.849
is actually a very genuine, deep depression that doesn't have
784
00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:08.940
a clear, like, this event happened, like this person died
785
00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:11.780
or broke up with someone. It's not that. It's like
786
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.539
it's almost invisible to them because they don't understand you're
787
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:20.500
not going through the power process. You may have things,
788
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.679
but if you don't have any struggle, they lose their value.
789
00:35:24.699 --> 00:35:25.219
Mm-hmm.
790
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.400
You've got to have goals and you've got to have
791
00:35:27.460 --> 00:35:29.800
a certain degree of struggle. It can't be miserable of it,
792
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.550
like the chess example I gave. But that's the kind
793
00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:36.210
of thing. And technology is stripping away a lot of
794
00:35:36.230 --> 00:35:38.389
the processes that were natural in our life that we
795
00:35:38.429 --> 00:35:38.769
had to do.
796
00:35:38.769 --> 00:35:41.969
The work that was needed, yeah. Trust fund kids, they're
797
00:35:41.989 --> 00:35:44.389
never happy. Not never, but usually not happy because they're
798
00:35:44.409 --> 00:35:48.530
not working to create anything. There's so many things that
799
00:35:48.550 --> 00:35:51.389
tech we're losing with. It's making everything easy, but we're
800
00:35:51.409 --> 00:35:52.309
not having to do anything.
801
00:35:52.349 --> 00:35:56.599
It's socially isolating people. which is the oddest thing because
802
00:35:56.699 --> 00:36:02.260
you can reach more people, but it's not interpersonal. We're
803
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.880
not getting that inner subjectivity with people either that's being
804
00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:09.070
lost and that all of this stuff is kind of
805
00:36:09.110 --> 00:36:13.050
this blind spot that's kind of grafted on to tech,
806
00:36:13.510 --> 00:36:16.010
and we're so hyper. Look at the results. Tech can
807
00:36:16.050 --> 00:36:18.239
make this, and we can get this more crops.
808
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:19.539
I can write me an essay.
809
00:36:20.630 --> 00:36:20.909
Yeah.
810
00:36:21.030 --> 00:36:22.570
But that means I can't think for my own brain.
811
00:36:22.630 --> 00:36:24.769
But it can also write essay for everyone else.
812
00:36:25.110 --> 00:36:28.630
We're not even using our brains to learn this stuff anymore.
813
00:36:28.650 --> 00:36:31.170
Like directions, my directions have gotten worse than they used
814
00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:33.449
to because I use GPS way too much.
815
00:36:33.469 --> 00:36:35.699
There are people who can't write cursive.
816
00:36:36.949 --> 00:36:40.320
It's like everything, like people pretty soon might not be
817
00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:41.900
able to write because they're going to use their computer.
818
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.179
We're going to lose so many skills.
819
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:44.679
People won't be able to read because they're just going
820
00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:45.579
to like, oh, it'll talk.
821
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:46.940
It can talk. That's a good point. I didn't think
822
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:47.380
about that.
823
00:36:48.219 --> 00:36:52.349
It's, technology can have bad results. It's not always this
824
00:36:53.769 --> 00:36:56.829
progression where things just get better all the time. Not really.
825
00:36:56.849 --> 00:36:59.690
So it could cause us to like de-evolve in a
826
00:36:59.710 --> 00:37:02.510
lot of things. Like some of our skills might get
827
00:37:02.550 --> 00:37:03.170
a lot worse.
828
00:37:03.429 --> 00:37:05.659
Well, look at the people who can barely speak English
829
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:12.159
and it's the only language they have. It's getting down
830
00:37:12.179 --> 00:37:17.519
to just grunts. All the filler words, like, like, bro, bro.
831
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:24.460
I said, Can you speak? They're barely functional. They're on
832
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.320
drugs and reality TV show, this cocktail of just nonsense.
833
00:37:28.940 --> 00:37:31.989
And Ted was warning about it. Like, yeah, that's what
834
00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:35.329
the system wants. So he thinks it was deliberately. They
835
00:37:35.369 --> 00:37:37.349
want you to drug up the stupid and serving them.
836
00:37:37.389 --> 00:37:37.710
That's all.
837
00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:39.750
And he was bombing. I looked up some of the people.
838
00:37:39.769 --> 00:37:41.670
It was the science people. Wait, let me see what
839
00:37:41.710 --> 00:37:43.989
he was bombing. It was like the media, mainstream media
840
00:37:44.030 --> 00:37:44.630
he was targeting.
841
00:37:44.929 --> 00:37:45.110
Mm-hmm.
842
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:46.820
Donors, like the.
843
00:37:46.780 --> 00:37:49.119
Donors of like the donor class that Epstein was tied
844
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.190
in with. That was interesting. I was never really told
845
00:37:52.230 --> 00:37:53.269
like who he was going after.
846
00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:56.590
He hit Charles Epstein. Really?
847
00:37:56.949 --> 00:37:59.449
Who is that related to? Epstein or just the same
848
00:37:59.469 --> 00:37:59.949
last name?
849
00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:03.320
It's another Steen, but no.
850
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.380
So he also went after- No blood relation. So he
851
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.159
went after the Neocon establishment as well.
852
00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:10.139
He did. The War Party. Interesting. Ding, ding, ding.
853
00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:14.090
I never heard that. He just wanted people to read
854
00:38:15.409 --> 00:38:18.650
what he had to say. And it, you shouldn't do
855
00:38:18.690 --> 00:38:20.690
that with violence, but I can tell you with honesty,
856
00:38:20.730 --> 00:38:21.690
the reason I read it, it.
857
00:38:21.989 --> 00:38:22.849
Was an important book.
858
00:38:22.869 --> 00:38:25.989
I was like, well, what was so important that you
859
00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:29.239
decided to kill people? Most people he injured. He didn't
860
00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:31.739
start killing people to the very end. What a lot
861
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.980
of people don't know is he was not the only
862
00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:36.239
one mailing bombs. He was actually, there was part of
863
00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:38.019
a three person team. Really?
864
00:38:38.059 --> 00:38:38.559
I didn't know that.
865
00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:41.500
He took all the blame though. And the bombs that
866
00:38:41.579 --> 00:38:44.340
actually caused death were sent by, I'm not going to
867
00:38:44.389 --> 00:38:48.619
say his name, but, Mm-hmm. A man, another man. And
868
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:53.409
they kind of screwed up because when the package was sent,
869
00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:57.809
Ted had just gotten, very rare that he ever used tech,
870
00:38:57.829 --> 00:39:01.329
but he got $ 10 from an ATM in Montana. He
871
00:39:01.389 --> 00:39:03.989
could not have gone to California and mailed this package
872
00:39:04.070 --> 00:39:04.989
without some.
873
00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:06.429
So there's no way then, yeah.
874
00:39:06.690 --> 00:39:09.110
Mm-hmm. They like clean cases, and they'll cut stuff like
875
00:39:09.130 --> 00:39:09.909
this out of his cases.
876
00:39:09.929 --> 00:39:12.260
They're like, well, it's his manifesto. So they're like, he
877
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.559
did it all by himself. They've been chasing him for
878
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.699
30 years, so they were not interested in finding his partners,
879
00:39:17.739 --> 00:39:19.380
and he wasn't interested in talking about them.
880
00:39:19.980 --> 00:39:23.619
He was also after banks and energy companies. Interesting.
881
00:39:25.730 --> 00:39:25.989
He knew.
882
00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:28.349
So fascinating, the people he was targeting.
883
00:39:28.369 --> 00:39:31.000
When you see that, oh, but i wouldn't looked up
884
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:32.619
if he was live unfortunately he's dead like what a
885
00:39:32.659 --> 00:39:35.860
fascinating interview that would be oh if he would do
886
00:39:35.909 --> 00:39:37.110
it no if he did if he would but man
887
00:39:37.130 --> 00:39:38.909
that'd be fascinating he ended.
888
00:39:38.829 --> 00:39:41.409
Up just living in a cabin in lincoln montana growing
889
00:39:41.449 --> 00:39:45.130
his own vegetables hunting rabbits like he says the best
890
00:39:45.190 --> 00:39:47.099
part at the time of his life He's out there
891
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.070
by himself. You think as a child prodigy, everybody looked
892
00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:52.690
at him as how they can use him. Oh, this
893
00:39:52.730 --> 00:39:55.530
kid's really smart. I wonder what he can solve for us.
894
00:39:56.630 --> 00:39:59.170
They just pushed all this mathematics. He's like, who cares
895
00:39:59.230 --> 00:40:03.030
if I do this things and about circles or whatever? Like, yeah,
896
00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.889
I'm able to do this, but like, this isn't fulfilling
897
00:40:05.909 --> 00:40:09.170
for me. I don't have any autonomy. You're making me
898
00:40:09.230 --> 00:40:10.489
do this. Cause I know how to do this.
899
00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:11.230
Yeah.
900
00:40:11.389 --> 00:40:13.670
But I want to, I want to farm and hunt
901
00:40:13.710 --> 00:40:15.449
and I want to do other stuff, you know, but
902
00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:17.050
they're like, that is such a waste of your gift.
903
00:40:18.010 --> 00:40:22.340
But I wasn't born to serve you. His whole is
904
00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:27.920
a long chapter on autonomy and freedom. Like it's essential.
905
00:40:28.980 --> 00:40:32.900
And that might be why he self-analyzing, like the reason
906
00:40:32.940 --> 00:40:36.289
he screwed up mailing bombs. That was taken away from him.
907
00:40:36.349 --> 00:40:38.300
His autonomy was taken away, and he saw it happen
908
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:39.860
to everybody and getting worse by the day.
909
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:41.619
So he had it happen to himself, and then he
910
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:43.719
realized it would happen to everyone. And when you're great
911
00:40:43.780 --> 00:40:46.619
at something, it's like everyone always just wants, wants, take, take.
912
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:47.920
I'm sure you would get it with, Ryan, do this
913
00:40:47.940 --> 00:40:50.489
for me, do that for me, research, or fighting, everyone,
914
00:40:50.510 --> 00:40:52.510
do this, do that. But it's like relationships are a
915
00:40:52.510 --> 00:40:52.989
given taste.
916
00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:57.789
It's like, I don't want to explain 9-11 again. That's
917
00:40:57.829 --> 00:40:59.170
why I made the final film.
918
00:40:59.389 --> 00:41:01.050
Yeah, watch it at Ryan Dawson's.
919
00:41:01.659 --> 00:41:03.809
I'll meet strangers, and of course, I get it. That's
920
00:41:03.829 --> 00:41:04.489
what they want to talk about.
921
00:41:04.510 --> 00:41:05.690
Yeah, a lot of times people are well-meaning.
922
00:41:05.730 --> 00:41:09.929
But I have had to do that speech so many times,
923
00:41:10.010 --> 00:41:12.650
and I'm like, I just want to talk about anything else.
924
00:41:12.690 --> 00:41:13.969
I think I did talk to you on my show,
925
00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:15.880
but it was... Your show's fine, because a lot of
926
00:41:15.900 --> 00:41:16.599
other people didn't hear it.
927
00:41:16.619 --> 00:41:18.519
You're like, fine, my last time I'm doing it. I
928
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:19.940
think you did say it was last time.
929
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.400
I can't talk about COVID anymore. I'm like, I just mentally...
930
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.969
I get it now. It's called allostatic load, and I
931
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.489
get triggered right away. They're like, you didn't even read Dr.
932
00:41:29.510 --> 00:41:29.750
Fauci.
933
00:41:29.769 --> 00:41:30.409
I'm like, I can't even.
934
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:32.519
I didn't want to talk about fighting when I started
935
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:33.900
my show. I'm just like, I just want to do
936
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:34.659
something else for a minute.
937
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:35.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.
938
00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:38.500
My whole life was like, oh, I was so laser focused.
939
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:40.260
But if you could get Gordon Ryan on here.
940
00:41:40.500 --> 00:41:41.780
I've had him before. I definitely want him again.
941
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:42.440
Talking about fighting.
942
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.139
He's just, I really wanted you guys to meet because
943
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.300
he's just such a genius.
944
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:46.539
I think you guys are going along really well.
945
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:47.559
He's canceled a lot of stuff too.
946
00:41:47.579 --> 00:41:49.320
People try to say he's like autistic and stuff. I
947
00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:50.769
think he's just like, whatever that means. They just say
948
00:41:50.789 --> 00:41:51.269
that about anybody smart.
949
00:41:51.289 --> 00:41:51.809
Yeah, whatever that means.
950
00:41:51.829 --> 00:41:53.750
Because he says the truth and he's smart.
951
00:41:53.789 --> 00:41:54.869
Didn't seem autistic.
952
00:41:54.889 --> 00:41:55.750
You can't control him?
953
00:41:57.969 --> 00:42:00.980
Autism, like, obviously there are people who have autism, but
954
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.539
there are a lot of, it's just become like millennial
955
00:42:03.579 --> 00:42:04.400
slang for.
956
00:42:04.420 --> 00:42:05.579
If you tell the truth.
957
00:42:05.739 --> 00:42:06.840
He can concentrate.
958
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:09.820
Well, I think sometimes people that don't follow social norms
959
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:11.469
will start being like, you're autistic. No, it's like, I just,
960
00:42:11.699 --> 00:42:13.570
I choose not to follow social norms.
961
00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:14.690
You're just Gen X.
962
00:42:14.710 --> 00:42:16.909
I'm like, no. I'm just looking at that.
963
00:42:17.010 --> 00:42:19.010
Yeah, I see. Let's see how long it took you.
964
00:42:19.050 --> 00:42:21.969
I was reading this quote right here. The less talent
965
00:42:22.030 --> 00:42:22.949
they have.
966
00:42:22.969 --> 00:42:25.449
Yeah, you made like four words.
967
00:42:25.550 --> 00:42:27.610
This is all Koreans or Japanese or what do you
968
00:42:27.630 --> 00:42:27.929
have here?
969
00:42:28.349 --> 00:42:28.849
Uh, they're both.
970
00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:33.239
This terrible race mixing, I don't know.
971
00:42:33.260 --> 00:42:36.559
So this one here is Japanese.
972
00:42:37.300 --> 00:42:38.000
I love that.
973
00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:41.159
She's in there. She's been on all my calendars, actually.
974
00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:44.170
She's the first model.
975
00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:48.010
I love how you have all the cool dates mentioned
976
00:42:48.050 --> 00:42:50.250
in there, like Lindsey Graham's death getting added.
977
00:42:50.809 --> 00:42:52.469
Yeah, that'll be on next year's calendar for sure.
978
00:42:52.610 --> 00:42:52.969
Oh, God.
979
00:42:55.530 --> 00:42:56.690
I'm going to have to have a girl in like
980
00:42:56.730 --> 00:42:58.750
a ladybug bikini for July or something.
981
00:42:58.829 --> 00:43:00.230
But that's how it disturbed me. Now they know what
982
00:43:00.250 --> 00:43:02.829
ladybugs means. If you want to know, we have an issue.
983
00:43:03.650 --> 00:43:05.730
You might not want to look this up people.
984
00:43:07.309 --> 00:43:07.429
Yeah.
985
00:43:07.449 --> 00:43:14.579
I quoted Dostoevsky, Rumi and Dostoevsky and a bunch of
986
00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:20.000
philosophers in here. I wrote some myself too. Kind of paraphrasing, but.
987
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:20.820
It's just funny.
988
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.940
You have all these like intellectual quotes when there's this like,
989
00:43:24.619 --> 00:43:25.480
What did you ask me earlier?
990
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.260
Did you like tits or ass? Yeah, both.
991
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:32.539
The Asian babes piss off the white nationalists. They hate
992
00:43:32.579 --> 00:43:34.750
me because I'm not one of them, but I talk
993
00:43:34.789 --> 00:43:39.210
about supremacy and Zionism so much that they assume that.
994
00:43:39.230 --> 00:43:41.630
I'm like, no, no, no. That's exactly what they want
995
00:43:41.650 --> 00:43:44.280
you to be so they can dismiss you. I'm not
996
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:45.539
into racial teleology.
997
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.360
Yeah, I avoid it too. I'm friends with some of
998
00:43:47.380 --> 00:43:47.860
these guys.
999
00:43:47.980 --> 00:43:48.719
Except for redheads.
1000
00:43:49.030 --> 00:43:51.690
I get more hate from the white nationals than anything else.
1001
00:43:51.710 --> 00:43:53.570
A couple of the guys I actually like, like Patriot Front,
1002
00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:55.329
I'm friends with the guy who runs that. I actually
1003
00:43:55.349 --> 00:43:57.929
like the guy. I wouldn't have an all-white group, but
1004
00:43:57.949 --> 00:44:00.159
he's not pushing hate. He just wants an all-white group.
1005
00:44:00.340 --> 00:44:01.460
Why can't you have an all-white group?
1006
00:44:02.619 --> 00:44:04.659
It would be allowed for any other category.
1007
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:06.619
So I actually really like those guys. I went out
1008
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.670
and done work with them before. But not those guys,
1009
00:44:09.690 --> 00:44:11.409
but white nationalists attack me so much.
1010
00:44:11.510 --> 00:44:13.449
It's the narcissism of small differences.
1011
00:44:13.590 --> 00:44:15.949
It's weird that I get attacked more by white nationalists
1012
00:44:15.969 --> 00:44:17.530
than anyone else because I platform the guys.
1013
00:44:17.570 --> 00:44:18.789
Like I've had David Duke on.
1014
00:44:19.489 --> 00:44:23.360
Well, a lot of white nationalists are actually ding-a-ding-a-ding, wolf.
1015
00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:25.340
In sheep's clothing. Maybe that's why I get attacked by
1016
00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:26.659
white nationalists so much online.
1017
00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:30.619
It serves Jewish supremacy. I mean, you often see the
1018
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.949
case where the rabbi spray-painted a swastika on his own door,
1019
00:44:34.590 --> 00:44:37.920
and it comes out actually that to himself. They need
1020
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.429
the opposition to be Nazis because then you can dismiss it. It's, like,
1021
00:44:43.469 --> 00:44:47.510
the only thing. It's really hard to lose that argument
1022
00:44:48.250 --> 00:44:52.010
when Israel's bombing hospitals and apartments. Like, it's an indefensible
1023
00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:54.849
position unless they can get you to try and, like,
1024
00:44:54.949 --> 00:45:00.050
justify Adolf and all that. It's like, no, no. Why
1025
00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:02.690
shoot from half court when you have a layup? You know,
1026
00:45:02.710 --> 00:45:04.750
you need to bring up World War II. Like, you
1027
00:45:04.809 --> 00:45:05.789
blew up a hospital.
1028
00:45:05.809 --> 00:45:06.670
Fuck you.
1029
00:45:06.690 --> 00:45:10.079
That is the only. You bulldoze Rachel Corey. Fuck you.
1030
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:11.019
It pisses me off.
1031
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:15.239
Fuck you. You're killing kids. Don't come at me with
1032
00:45:15.260 --> 00:45:17.400
the Holocaust. You're this crap. I'm not going to bite.
1033
00:45:17.420 --> 00:45:22.429
What you're doing right now, you're the Nazi. Thomas Russo
1034
00:45:22.449 --> 00:45:24.389
had someone ask him about that. He's like, I only
1035
00:45:24.429 --> 00:45:26.670
focus on American history. I don't need to talk about that.
1036
00:45:26.690 --> 00:45:29.070
The good thing is I don't read it. It's not
1037
00:45:29.150 --> 00:45:30.590
my thing because they wanted him to take.
1038
00:45:30.489 --> 00:45:32.269
The, oh, Hitler this. He's like, why would I talk
1039
00:45:32.309 --> 00:45:33.590
about Hitler? This is America.
1040
00:45:33.909 --> 00:45:36.449
I'm not... I don't have any rules in my club
1041
00:45:36.510 --> 00:45:38.659
of what you view him, but I don't talk about him.
1042
00:45:38.670 --> 00:45:40.170
I don't read about him. I read American history.
1043
00:45:40.269 --> 00:45:43.250
It's weird to me that of all the villains in history,
1044
00:45:43.309 --> 00:45:46.239
that's the one. Like, oh, Hitler is unequivocal evil.
1045
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.179
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But even during that war, you know, the millions starved
1060
00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:35.769
in the Bengal famine during World War II and the
1061
00:46:35.809 --> 00:46:39.369
same in the Congo. And people like King Leopold. There's
1062
00:46:39.530 --> 00:46:42.789
all these monsters that, you know, even modern stuff like
1063
00:46:42.829 --> 00:46:45.769
While We've Been Alive, Charles Taylor, these people.
1064
00:46:45.789 --> 00:46:47.150
Pol Pot wasn't that long ago.
1065
00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:49.969
Pol Pot wasn't long ago. That's in our parents' generation,
1066
00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:56.280
you know, that really nasty stuff. But it's like... I'm
1067
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.110
not standing up for Hitler, but it's odd. Like, oh,
1068
00:46:59.130 --> 00:46:59.889
that's the one.
1069
00:46:59.929 --> 00:47:01.250
Well, he arrested a Rothschild.
1070
00:47:02.150 --> 00:47:07.409
Well, yeah, he did. He did some things good. All
1071
00:47:07.429 --> 00:47:10.960
these characters, too. I mean, Holland was a monster. Not completely,
1072
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.239
but on the whole, yes.
1073
00:47:13.300 --> 00:47:14.340
But we can say good things.
1074
00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:18.400
Winston Churchill, same. He was a monster. It's just if
1075
00:47:18.420 --> 00:47:21.090
you win, then it isn't wrong. It's only wrong if
1076
00:47:21.110 --> 00:47:21.550
you lose.
1077
00:47:21.670 --> 00:47:23.530
The winner's right history. That saying holds so much meaning.
1078
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:27.139
you really start, I started looking at history. I'm like, wow,
1079
00:47:27.179 --> 00:47:27.860
that's so true.
1080
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:29.340
To the victor goes the history book.
1081
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.559
Well, and, and Glenn, was it Robert Maxwell?
1082
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:35.320
Well, yeah.
1083
00:47:36.659 --> 00:47:37.300
Didn't you have like the.
1084
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:41.170
Largest father of a career, a pedophile and human trafficker.
1085
00:47:41.369 --> 00:47:43.210
He's writing textbooks for schools.
1086
00:47:44.530 --> 00:47:47.949
Well, he, he was stealing a British science and technology.
1087
00:47:48.389 --> 00:47:50.309
He was stealing from the Soviets and giving to the
1088
00:47:50.329 --> 00:47:54.599
Brits and giving to the Israelis. And yeah, he had a,
1089
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.059
He robbed people's pension funds. He was a little snob.
1090
00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.460
That's when they killed him, right? I think he got
1091
00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:01.719
killed by Mossad because he was giving them money. And
1092
00:48:01.739 --> 00:48:03.579
he goes, you guys owe me. You got to give
1093
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:04.179
that money back.
1094
00:48:04.219 --> 00:48:04.820
And then he drowned.
1095
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:06.179
You don't blackmail to blackmail.
1096
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:07.110
No, you don't blackmail.
1097
00:48:07.130 --> 00:48:10.989
He was thrown off the boat he named after his daughter, naked,
1098
00:48:11.010 --> 00:48:13.769
and drowned in the ocean. She ended up starting an
1099
00:48:13.889 --> 00:48:14.949
oceans charity, which.
1100
00:48:14.889 --> 00:48:16.869
Is nothing but- It's crazy that she still worked for
1101
00:48:16.889 --> 00:48:18.030
Mossad after they killed her dad.
1102
00:48:18.050 --> 00:48:19.340
It's so strange, right?
1103
00:48:20.340 --> 00:48:23.019
They didn't work for Mossad. They were for military intelligence.
1104
00:48:23.219 --> 00:48:25.239
I forget. You're so, you're so accurate. You are, you are,
1105
00:48:25.300 --> 00:48:25.800
you are right.
1106
00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:29.139
They were Mossad assets, not agents.
1107
00:48:29.500 --> 00:48:30.019
Yeah, you're right.
1108
00:48:30.139 --> 00:48:33.300
This is just for the nerds, but okay. I think
1109
00:48:33.340 --> 00:48:36.440
like foreigners just say CIA about everything.
1110
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:37.179
No, I know.
1111
00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:38.980
And we were like, yeah, we have the CIA. We
1112
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.940
have the NSA. We have the FBI. We have the DIA.
1113
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:46.019
We have army intelligence, Navy intelligence. We got a, we got, yeah,
1114
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.739
a lot of groups can be any of those things. Um,
1115
00:48:51.369 --> 00:48:54.170
but it just kind of just, it's like, they just
1116
00:48:54.190 --> 00:48:55.489
say fed or something.
1117
00:48:55.550 --> 00:48:56.010
And I get it.
1118
00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:58.300
People just say Mossad. I was like, well, it could
1119
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.360
have been Shin Bet. It could have been Mossad. It
1120
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:01.000
could have been unit.
1121
00:49:01.019 --> 00:49:02.599
I think a lot of people don't know what these are.
1122
00:49:02.619 --> 00:49:05.440
So it's just kind of like, uh, say Mossad. Cause
1123
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:05.860
I'm guilty.
1124
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.880
Well, I'm just correct people. Cause they were like, they
1125
00:49:07.900 --> 00:49:10.219
were like, but they weren't Mossad agents. I'm like, true.
1126
00:49:11.110 --> 00:49:14.849
But they're assets from military intelligence. We know that. I mean,
1127
00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:18.159
arivin menashe admitted he was there with doug leeson epstein
1128
00:49:18.179 --> 00:49:20.800
the whole crew like they this is part of a
1129
00:49:20.860 --> 00:49:24.679
larger uh money laundering syndicate that was spying on science
1130
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.739
and technology and using sexual blackmail to as like the
1131
00:49:27.809 --> 00:49:30.969
glue to hold it all together we've talked about.
1132
00:49:30.889 --> 00:49:33.630
It before yeah his primary thing was like on the
1133
00:49:33.690 --> 00:49:36.329
science and technology not politicians that was like a side
1134
00:49:36.349 --> 00:49:40.119
thing correct In financial institutions. A lot of people don't
1135
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.539
even know that. That seems like where his focus was.
1136
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:44.619
He did a lot, though. That guy did a lot
1137
00:49:44.659 --> 00:49:45.420
of fucking shit.
1138
00:49:45.460 --> 00:49:51.449
You know, the child rape is such an emotional crime.
1139
00:49:52.650 --> 00:49:56.730
That sucks all the tension up. Understandably, because it's fucking sick.
1140
00:49:56.969 --> 00:49:58.329
Yeah, fuck him for that, too.
1141
00:49:58.349 --> 00:50:00.269
Yeah, if you're wearing that merch, I want to punch
1142
00:50:00.289 --> 00:50:05.280
you in the face. It's... A couple more things I
1143
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:05.880
just want to say real quick.
1144
00:50:05.900 --> 00:50:08.159
I would get rid of the Eighth Amendment just for him.
1145
00:50:08.179 --> 00:50:08.900
Yeah, right.
1146
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:13.920
I'm just skimming through this guy's feelings of inferiority.
1147
00:50:14.380 --> 00:50:16.400
You don't even have to read the whole manifesto. If
1148
00:50:16.420 --> 00:50:20.579
you just skip down to, I think it starts around
1149
00:50:20.619 --> 00:50:24.030
paragraph six, or it's paragraph 10 where he starts talking
1150
00:50:24.050 --> 00:50:25.570
about feelings of inferiority.
1151
00:50:26.489 --> 00:50:27.050
Yeah, that's right.
1152
00:50:27.070 --> 00:50:28.820
Like 10 through 14. Yeah, just read that.
1153
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.440
That's really interesting.
1154
00:50:30.780 --> 00:50:33.639
Another good section is down where he's talking about in
1155
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.679
the future how they're going to use drugs on children
1156
00:50:36.699 --> 00:50:39.460
to keep you in line. This is before Adderall, before.
1157
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:40.440
Dude, they tried to put me in that as a
1158
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.119
kid because I'm hyperactive.
1159
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:42.699
Ritalin.
1160
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:44.460
And I would ask questions I wasn't supposed to think.
1161
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.000
I'm so glad my parents didn't put me on that.
1162
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.920
You're naturally not supposed to be... Well, the bad downside
1163
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:51.909
of Ritalin too is it....
1164
00:50:52.579 --> 00:50:52.650
It.
1165
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:56.880
prevents full development of your really.
1166
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:58.590
I'm so glad my parents didn't put me on yeah
1167
00:50:58.610 --> 00:51:00.610
i heard i'm sitting still and asked things i wasn't
1168
00:51:00.630 --> 00:51:01.550
supposed to.
1169
00:51:01.389 --> 00:51:05.949
And people use it as like or it helps me
1170
00:51:05.989 --> 00:51:09.590
with school at a friend that's uh pug say just
1171
00:51:09.610 --> 00:51:11.280
because you have a headache doesn't mean you have an
1172
00:51:11.300 --> 00:51:12.699
aspirin deficiency dude.
1173
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.780
Where i grew up there's tons of methamphetamines i've done
1174
00:51:14.820 --> 00:51:16.780
that i've done adderall they're very similar i'll tell you
1175
00:51:16.820 --> 00:51:18.239
that it's like a very.
1176
00:51:18.019 --> 00:51:19.500
People call it baby meth.
1177
00:51:19.539 --> 00:51:21.889
Yeah it's a very serious drug and they just like
1178
00:51:21.909 --> 00:51:22.210
give it to.
1179
00:51:22.190 --> 00:51:24.750
Children Probably would help you on a test.
1180
00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:27.190
I'll do great on tests. I'll be like sitting there
1181
00:51:27.269 --> 00:51:30.489
geeked out. I might start drawing. I'm not an artist.
1182
00:51:32.710 --> 00:51:33.809
Maybe I'll become a researcher.
1183
00:51:36.610 --> 00:51:40.260
It's a weird arbitrary thing, the testing system anyway. It
1184
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.800
doesn't really reflect. I'll give you the greatest, the best examples,
1185
00:51:42.860 --> 00:51:45.739
foreign languages. You have people who go through school and
1186
00:51:45.820 --> 00:51:47.440
pass and they can't speak a foreign language.
1187
00:51:47.460 --> 00:51:48.139
They can't speak the language.
1188
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.420
You know whether someone speaks a foreign language or not
1189
00:51:50.539 --> 00:51:51.340
just by talking to them.
1190
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:51.489
Yeah.
1191
00:51:52.139 --> 00:51:54.800
But there are people got like whatever grade A in
1192
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.300
it and someone else may have got a C or
1193
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:57.639
a D, but that person actually can do it.
1194
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.099
Because you don't speak the languages how they teach it.
1195
00:51:59.099 --> 00:52:00.679
Which you can know just by talking to them, right?
1196
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.130
But the way they just like, oh, conjugate these verbs.
1197
00:52:04.210 --> 00:52:07.329
It's not real. All your subjects are like that. But
1198
00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:10.750
the one that you can see clearly is foreign language
1199
00:52:10.769 --> 00:52:12.170
because it's so easy to test.
1200
00:52:12.469 --> 00:52:14.889
I also had a friend who is fluent in Spanish,
1201
00:52:14.989 --> 00:52:15.849
failed Spanish class.
1202
00:52:16.869 --> 00:52:17.090
Right.
1203
00:52:17.230 --> 00:52:19.030
Because he spoke it like the Mexican way.
1204
00:52:19.739 --> 00:52:23.730
Yeah. It's like, God. He definitely speaks Spanish better than
1205
00:52:23.750 --> 00:52:26.710
other people who are literally learning it for a second language, right?
1206
00:52:26.730 --> 00:52:29.849
He has to. But school is just a measure of
1207
00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:31.349
obedience more than performance.
1208
00:52:31.710 --> 00:52:32.889
No, exactly.
1209
00:52:33.289 --> 00:52:35.239
Did you jump through the hoops we wanted you to?
1210
00:52:35.289 --> 00:52:38.090
Are you going to ask the right questions?
1211
00:52:38.550 --> 00:52:40.139
Read the crap and bold at the back of the
1212
00:52:40.179 --> 00:52:41.940
book and regurgitate it to me and forget it five
1213
00:52:41.980 --> 00:52:43.340
minutes later. No, exactly.
1214
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.179
You're just remembering things. They're not teaching you to critically think.
1215
00:52:46.260 --> 00:52:48.340
They're teaching you to remember things. Here he is talking
1216
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:48.900
about feminism.
1217
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:49.219
Let's see.
1218
00:52:50.030 --> 00:52:52.889
Memory is a skill, too, but it is just too much.
1219
00:52:54.510 --> 00:53:00.469
It's not practical skills. You're learning this. You learn a
1220
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lot of math, for example. You never know what it's for.
1221
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No, I never really use any of the math. I mean, obviously,
1222
00:53:05.570 --> 00:53:07.989
like adding, subtracting, that was important.
1223
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Statistics is useful.
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No per capita means.
1225
00:53:13.329 --> 00:53:18.150
Math in American schools is calculus-driven rather than statistics-driven. And
1226
00:53:18.190 --> 00:53:21.010
calculus is such a niche thing for very few activities
1227
00:53:21.110 --> 00:53:25.969
where statistics is valuable for politics, for all kinds of things.
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And people are innumerate. They'll hear a stat, but they don't.
1229
00:53:29.969 --> 00:53:31.909
They play with it and they're like, that doesn't mean
1230
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what you think it means.
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They can manipulate statistics so easily.
1232
00:53:34.349 --> 00:53:37.289
And they deliberately are really good at manipulating statistics to
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make it sound like it means something different than it does.
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The whole school system is screwed. Like health is an elective,
1235
00:53:42.730 --> 00:53:45.969
but English is a main subject. And what are they
1236
00:53:46.010 --> 00:53:47.989
teaching you in health? I don't think I learned very
1237
00:53:48.050 --> 00:53:50.780
much in school. Well, what are they teaching you in
1238
00:53:50.860 --> 00:53:54.940
any of these things? History. I learned about the Holocaust
1239
00:53:55.139 --> 00:54:00.280
and slavery. Your history is all propaganda in school.
1240
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Which sucks.
1241
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.239
I used to like history. Then you realize, oh, it's
1242
00:54:03.260 --> 00:54:07.019
all just propaganda. Anyways, we're just doing a little mini one.
1243
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.989
Yeah, I mean, Ted gets into education, too. I mean,
1244
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you have a lot to say about it. I'm not
1245
00:54:11.789 --> 00:54:15.750
going over the whole manifesto. Yeah. I just thought, for me,
1246
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what I really enjoyed is his view of a social
1247
00:54:20.309 --> 00:54:23.230
psychology as a group, not just as an individual, and
1248
00:54:23.269 --> 00:54:27.289
how it evolved to match the environment we were primarily
1249
00:54:27.610 --> 00:54:34.510
raised in as tribes. And he's not unique like others
1250
00:54:34.550 --> 00:54:39.039
have talked about this, but he added some insight where
1251
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:44.789
he tied several different philosophical schools together And unfortunately, because
1252
00:54:44.809 --> 00:54:49.849
of the horrible things he did, it'll never get looked at.
1253
00:54:50.030 --> 00:54:52.739
But people treat it like he was just some psychotic
1254
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.139
environmentalist that wanted to go live in the trees and
1255
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.960
he hated machines or something. That is not it at all.
1256
00:54:58.059 --> 00:55:00.119
I would like to say because the effort he put
1257
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:01.420
out to get you to read the book, you should
1258
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:04.059
read it. That's some serious effort this guy put out.
1259
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:08.980
Like Karl Marx in the sense that some of his
1260
00:55:09.059 --> 00:55:13.530
criticism of capitalism... is correct, but his solution is so
1261
00:55:13.650 --> 00:55:14.230
much worse.
1262
00:55:14.250 --> 00:55:16.369
Bomb people. Well, does he have a solution?
1263
00:55:16.429 --> 00:55:19.289
Well, Carl's too like communism central planning is just a
1264
00:55:19.329 --> 00:55:22.300
dumb idea, but his, you know, the alienation of the
1265
00:55:22.340 --> 00:55:25.059
worker and I'm like, okay, yeah, you got some points.
1266
00:55:26.059 --> 00:55:26.860
Ted had some points.
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00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:27.780
Oh, he did.
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00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.260
Yeah. I'm going to read the whole thing tonight. Do you,
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00:55:30.940 --> 00:55:33.489
do you have a lot of critiques of capitalism? I mean,
1270
00:55:33.530 --> 00:55:36.869
obviously you're anti-communist, but I find extreme capitalism has turned
1271
00:55:36.909 --> 00:55:37.650
into kind.
1272
00:55:37.489 --> 00:55:44.079
Of, well, it's, you know, it isn't, uh, I don't
1273
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.269
think the economics, the system of government and stuff matters
1274
00:55:47.329 --> 00:55:52.110
so much until you have a free press, because that's
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00:55:52.150 --> 00:55:58.010
what makes things honest. It doesn't matter if you're fascist, communist, capitalist,
1276
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.239
all these systems have killed millions of people. The Soviets
1277
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.599
killed people, the fascists killed people, the republics have killed people, like,
1278
00:56:06.820 --> 00:56:11.010
the type of monarchies have killed people, religious, yeah, like,
1279
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:16.590
They all end up in violence and ruled by oligarchies eventually.
1280
00:56:17.349 --> 00:56:20.469
It all ends up as a plutocracy at the bottom.
1281
00:56:20.769 --> 00:56:21.909
Yeah, kind of go to the same thing.
1282
00:56:22.469 --> 00:56:30.719
And capitalism is not good isolated. It has to be
1283
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:34.559
held responsible through checks and balances but freedom of the press.
1284
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.960
If you don't have a media to call out the
1285
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:43.989
corruption and graft and profiteering... then inevitably your goods are
1286
00:56:44.010 --> 00:56:45.650
going to end up with what we have today. But
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00:56:46.630 --> 00:56:49.050
as far as buying and selling goods and Adam Smith,
1288
00:56:49.090 --> 00:56:54.739
that whole part's correct. But what always ends up happening
1289
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.360
is you end up with special interest groups utilizing the
1290
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:03.130
monopoly of government to favor themselves so that they're not
1291
00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:05.690
really having free market competition at the top.
1292
00:57:06.250 --> 00:57:06.349
No.
1293
00:57:07.050 --> 00:57:09.389
It's all government contracts handed out. And it's not communist
1294
00:57:09.409 --> 00:57:12.940
to say, look, that Lockheed Martin getting 90-something percent of
1295
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:16.679
his revenue from state contracts, that's not a free market.
1296
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:23.579
That's not free competition. The best check in capitalism that
1297
00:57:23.619 --> 00:57:26.860
helps the consumer is competition. The more competition you have,
1298
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.449
the lower the prices are, the more options you have
1299
00:57:29.469 --> 00:57:32.590
that you will not this, then that. But they're utilizing
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00:57:32.630 --> 00:57:35.909
the state to favor one group over another. Yes. I
1301
00:57:35.929 --> 00:57:38.760
think Jefferson said that too. He's like, democracy died the
1302
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:43.699
moment people realized they could vote themselves money. It's a
1303
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.940
little bit better than just a totalitarian monarch or something.
1304
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:49.239
But what if you had a benevolent monarch? If you
1305
00:57:49.260 --> 00:57:51.699
had a Bismarck or something. It would be better in
1306
00:57:51.739 --> 00:57:53.590
that case. The problem is you don't know who takes
1307
00:57:53.650 --> 00:57:56.389
over after that. The other problem is the scale we
1308
00:57:56.429 --> 00:57:59.489
have now with like 300 million people. Even if you
1309
00:57:59.510 --> 00:58:01.809
were Ron Paul and you had the best intentions, you
1310
00:58:01.849 --> 00:58:05.110
cannot possibly know what the best thing to do is
1311
00:58:05.130 --> 00:58:07.369
for all these cases on all these different subjects. You've
1312
00:58:07.389 --> 00:58:10.440
got to let market solutions work that stuff out. The
1313
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:15.219
problem is our capitalism is polluted by state intervention, interest groups,
1314
00:58:15.300 --> 00:58:17.980
and stuff. But the only way to clean that all
1315
00:58:18.139 --> 00:58:21.579
out is with a functional media, which we do not have.
1316
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:23.630
Well, I mean, look, I've seen cases that got kicked
1317
00:58:23.670 --> 00:58:25.130
out of the media initially. Remember, they were trying to
1318
00:58:25.170 --> 00:58:26.570
break it for a while. It got shut down. That's
1319
00:58:26.590 --> 00:58:29.030
a perfect example. You were banned from all media, like
1320
00:58:29.090 --> 00:58:29.570
social media.
1321
00:58:29.590 --> 00:58:32.969
Yeah, like imagine if the media did its job, then...
1322
00:58:33.610 --> 00:58:36.090
The social pressure would be such that when they engage
1323
00:58:36.110 --> 00:58:39.019
in these criminal activities, they're prosecuted and there's an incentive
1324
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:39.780
to quit doing it.
1325
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.000
Well, the shit they get away with, the financial crimes.
1326
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.500
And here's like one, like the financial collapse of 2008.
1327
00:58:45.500 --> 00:58:48.539
That's like engineered by these giant banks. They get bailed
1328
00:58:48.699 --> 00:58:51.349
out while my friends lose their homes. So it's not
1329
00:58:51.369 --> 00:58:52.210
really capitalism.
1330
00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:56.349
Well, I mean, it was fraud. You had the briberating
1331
00:58:56.409 --> 00:58:58.010
agencies to lie about.
1332
00:58:58.030 --> 00:58:58.849
None of them went to jail.
1333
00:58:59.340 --> 00:59:04.230
Yeah, these mortgage-backed securities that were way subprime is a misnomer.
1334
00:59:04.230 --> 00:59:06.530
I mean, these were sub dog shit.
1335
00:59:06.530 --> 00:59:09.679
Like but they like knew what was happening right they
1336
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:11.820
engineer it and then maybe a few people went to
1337
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:13.739
jail but as a whole most of the banks got like.
1338
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:18.019
Using collateralized debt obligations they're getting moral hazard removed and
1339
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:21.960
like you know if you normally in a normal thing
1340
00:59:21.980 --> 00:59:24.760
like if i lend you money probably the other way
1341
00:59:24.780 --> 00:59:28.099
around but like listen if i lend you money then
1342
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.829
I have a risk. Like, you might not pay me back.
1343
00:59:30.869 --> 00:59:32.090
So I've got to look at your credit.
1344
00:59:32.110 --> 00:59:34.449
I've learned that from that other way. You rarely get
1345
00:59:34.469 --> 00:59:34.909
paid back.
1346
00:59:35.130 --> 00:59:38.309
So a bank has to be judicious in who they
1347
00:59:38.329 --> 00:59:40.030
loan money to, who they think has the ability to
1348
00:59:40.070 --> 00:59:41.730
pay it back, will pay it back, and all that.
1349
00:59:42.570 --> 00:59:46.260
And it's the risk that prevents them from just slinging
1350
00:59:46.300 --> 00:59:50.320
money around everywhere. But what was doing there in 2008
1351
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.780
and before is they would create an IOU. So, like,
1352
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:55.090
let's say.
1353
00:59:56.690 --> 00:59:58.949
I loan you some money. You owe me money. Well,
1354
00:59:58.969 --> 01:00:02.090
I just sell that I owe you to someone else. Now,
1355
01:00:03.349 --> 01:00:06.409
they have bought it, so you owe them the money
1356
01:00:06.449 --> 01:00:08.679
instead of me because they already paid me. So I
1357
01:00:08.699 --> 01:00:09.559
got mine. I'm clear.
1358
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:10.320
So you're good.
1359
01:00:10.340 --> 01:00:13.639
They're hoping you're going to pay them. But now I
1360
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.340
have no reason not to keep lending money.
1361
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.219
Because they just kept selling them.
1362
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:19.639
Because I don't have risk anymore because that's all. I'm
1363
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:23.260
selling security to a third party, right? And security is
1364
01:00:23.300 --> 01:00:24.840
just fancy for an I owe you.
1365
01:00:25.849 --> 01:00:28.289
These didn't like these companies know what were they in
1366
01:00:28.329 --> 01:00:29.329
on it too do they know it was going to
1367
01:00:29.369 --> 01:00:30.349
collapse like.
1368
01:00:31.510 --> 01:00:34.730
Well it's like they there was a multitude of scams
1369
01:00:34.769 --> 01:00:37.469
going on at once so they had insurance fraud in
1370
01:00:38.289 --> 01:00:40.789
the sense that normally let's say you have a house
1371
01:00:41.110 --> 01:00:44.489
you buy fire insurance yeah probably your house isn't going
1372
01:00:44.510 --> 01:00:48.210
to burn down and probably all the houses are definitely
1373
01:00:48.230 --> 01:00:50.449
not going to burn down yeah unless you're in Maui
1374
01:00:51.889 --> 01:00:56.489
so the that's dark I'm sorry but The insurance company
1375
01:00:56.510 --> 01:00:59.639
is like, well, okay, because the majority aren't. When one does,
1376
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.380
we pull money from all these other ones. We can
1377
01:01:01.420 --> 01:01:03.639
pay for it. It won't collapse the system. But what
1378
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:08.320
would happen if I went and sold insurance to 100
1379
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:13.050
different people on one property? If that property burns, you're
1380
01:01:13.070 --> 01:01:15.150
not just paying out the one. You're paying out to
1381
01:01:15.250 --> 01:01:17.289
all of these things. And that's the kind of crap
1382
01:01:17.329 --> 01:01:20.969
they were doing that normally is regulated and And I
1383
01:01:21.050 --> 01:01:24.119
hate this thing of people who are like total deregulation
1384
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:26.460
or total regulation. You have to have some. It depends
1385
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:31.420
on what the regulation is. Normally I lean towards deregulation
1386
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.900
because most regulations aren't there to do anything other than
1387
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:40.300
to utilize monopolies and da-da-da-da. But there's some, Glass-Steagall, there's
1388
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.119
some regulations we need. You've got to look at them
1389
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.949
one by one. You can't just blankedly reject them all
1390
01:01:46.110 --> 01:01:46.690
or accept them all.
1391
01:01:46.710 --> 01:01:50.489
No regulation, we're 100% capitalists. Except for these big corporations,
1392
01:01:50.510 --> 01:01:51.869
they're not going to follow the rules.
1393
01:01:53.190 --> 01:01:56.369
Yeah, I mean, the natural regulation is when you fail,
1394
01:01:56.409 --> 01:01:58.829
you fail. You don't get bailed out. But they had
1395
01:01:58.869 --> 01:01:59.789
too big to fail.
1396
01:02:00.050 --> 01:02:02.159
Too big to fail. So, like, I mean, I had
1397
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.820
a bunch of my friends lose their homes. Their families
1398
01:02:04.860 --> 01:02:05.579
falling apart.
1399
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.239
I watched the suffering. But they're too big to fail,
1400
01:02:08.420 --> 01:02:10.380
the ones that engineered it. That pissed me off.
1401
01:02:10.420 --> 01:02:13.239
The ones responsible for it. They knew all these people
1402
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:14.360
were buying on credit.
1403
01:02:14.420 --> 01:02:14.820
Mm-hmm.
1404
01:02:15.630 --> 01:02:18.829
And that creates, that created inflation housing. So you've got
1405
01:02:18.889 --> 01:02:20.969
somebody that just out of college and wants to buy
1406
01:02:20.989 --> 01:02:22.869
a house to live in it. And they got to
1407
01:02:22.889 --> 01:02:24.989
compete with people who are buying houses just to sell
1408
01:02:25.010 --> 01:02:26.989
them later for more like a Bitcoin or something.
1409
01:02:27.010 --> 01:02:27.949
Right now they're just trying to.
1410
01:02:28.070 --> 01:02:32.449
Commoditize the house. So, and normally you'd have capital gains
1411
01:02:32.489 --> 01:02:34.429
tax that would say, okay, you can avoid this if
1412
01:02:34.469 --> 01:02:36.889
you actually live on the property for two years or
1413
01:02:36.929 --> 01:02:40.489
more to slow down. People just rich people just buying
1414
01:02:40.510 --> 01:02:42.010
a whole bunch of properties and buying and selling them
1415
01:02:42.030 --> 01:02:46.239
like cards, you know? Um, And this, like, all these
1416
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:48.920
things went wrong. But the thing is, if the press
1417
01:02:49.179 --> 01:02:52.219
had reported these crimes as they were happening, it would
1418
01:02:52.260 --> 01:02:52.900
have ended there.
1419
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:55.579
But they didn't. So I guess the press is really
1420
01:02:55.619 --> 01:02:56.300
the most important.
1421
01:02:56.619 --> 01:02:58.719
The press is what keeps the rest of it honest.
1422
01:02:58.780 --> 01:03:02.460
If you don't have free speech, if you engage in censorship,
1423
01:03:03.070 --> 01:03:06.510
then crime's going to, it's natural, like, they're going to
1424
01:03:06.530 --> 01:03:07.030
get away with it.
1425
01:03:07.030 --> 01:03:11.190
A few people own, like, these giant media conglomerates. Ding, ding, ding, ding.
1426
01:03:11.210 --> 01:03:15.309
Yeah, yeah. And they're the same ones that allowed their
1427
01:03:15.389 --> 01:03:20.170
ding-a-ding friends to engage in subprime lending and bribing the
1428
01:03:20.210 --> 01:03:23.440
rating agencies. And, yeah, it was such a mess.
1429
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:26.119
They've conned the right into thinking, like, free health care
1430
01:03:26.139 --> 01:03:28.679
is communism, but, like, not fighting these wars and bailing
1431
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:29.480
out big corporations.
1432
01:03:29.500 --> 01:03:30.500
It's not really free.
1433
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:31.820
We already spend the money on health care.
1434
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:35.760
But the thing is, they prevent market competition. Like, for insurance,
1435
01:03:36.900 --> 01:03:39.699
they'll say, well, you can't cross state lines. So that protects,
1436
01:03:39.780 --> 01:03:41.949
it gives us regional protection. Like, they don't have to
1437
01:03:41.969 --> 01:03:44.519
compete with any of their neighbors, so. it makes the
1438
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.639
price increase. You think with like Medicare and Medicaid, you
1439
01:03:47.659 --> 01:03:49.440
can shop around and you have such volume. You have
1440
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.039
so many people on those that you could get the
1441
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.969
lowest price volume discount like Walmart does for food.
1442
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:55.389
Yeah.
1443
01:03:55.590 --> 01:03:57.119
But they're legally not allowed to. Yeah.
1444
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.170
So how's that capitalism then? Like our, our medical system.
1445
01:04:01.210 --> 01:04:06.750
Well, it's cronyism. It's, you know, it's capitalism is not always,
1446
01:04:07.289 --> 01:04:09.809
it's not naturally good. There's so many ways to corrupt it.
1447
01:04:10.690 --> 01:04:13.710
And the same thing with communism, you can have this, uh,
1448
01:04:14.900 --> 01:04:18.159
the state's going to be benevolent and redistribute goods to everybody.
1449
01:04:18.179 --> 01:04:19.570
We're all going to be equal.
1450
01:04:19.269 --> 01:04:22.150
And share everything. But there's no, like, societal structure. It's
1451
01:04:22.190 --> 01:04:24.349
like the state's just not just by the goodness of
1452
01:04:24.409 --> 01:04:30.550
its heart to distribute goods to the workers or something. Like, no.
1453
01:04:30.909 --> 01:04:32.349
Right, human nature, unfortunately.
1454
01:04:32.369 --> 01:04:37.579
Yeah, you're going to ruin innovation and everything, too, because, like,
1455
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.000
the profit motive is a good incentive to come up
1456
01:04:40.019 --> 01:04:44.099
with new things, da-da-da-da-da. It's not as simple as pick
1457
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:49.619
a team. You have to look at all the flaws
1458
01:04:49.820 --> 01:04:54.099
which are caused by not enforcing law. And the reason I,
1459
01:04:54.670 --> 01:04:56.989
in my opinion, why a lot of law isn't enforced
1460
01:04:57.030 --> 01:04:58.849
is because the press gives them a pass.
1461
01:04:59.619 --> 01:05:02.860
I think you're right. They're the same team. The press,
1462
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.139
the bankers, the people doing this. It's one big team.
1463
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.119
One big club.
1464
01:05:08.139 --> 01:05:09.320
George Carlin again.
1465
01:05:09.539 --> 01:05:11.280
We're about to go work out in a few minutes.
1466
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.579
Any final things to hit? I need to gym. We've
1467
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:14.300
been here for a while.
1468
01:05:14.860 --> 01:05:17.460
The manifesto is free. You can read it with a
1469
01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:20.559
critical eye. When I'm on an airplane, whenever I take
1470
01:05:20.579 --> 01:05:23.550
that trip from Asia, I reread the manifesto. It's so good.
1471
01:05:23.570 --> 01:05:25.969
I was skimming it as we were talking. There's so
1472
01:05:26.010 --> 01:05:27.269
much interesting stuff in there.
1473
01:05:27.469 --> 01:05:30.699
It's definitely worth I mean, you can disagree and agree,
1474
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.320
but you're definitely going to find some stuff in there going, man,
1475
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.840
he nailed it this many decades ago.
1476
01:05:36.860 --> 01:05:38.760
Look at the effort he did to get you to
1477
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:40.119
read this. I should tell you something.
1478
01:05:40.139 --> 01:05:43.519
I don't want to encourage that and get everybody doing that,
1479
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:47.570
but look, that's unfortunate that that's what he did. But
1480
01:05:47.969 --> 01:05:50.590
like I said, plenty of examples of people in history
1481
01:05:51.449 --> 01:05:52.650
did some screwed up things.
1482
01:05:53.329 --> 01:05:55.650
Most people do good and bad. Some people do a
1483
01:05:55.670 --> 01:05:55.969
lot worse.
1484
01:05:55.989 --> 01:05:56.929
Almost everybody's gray.
1485
01:05:57.510 --> 01:05:59.429
I mean, I've never done anything wrong. I'm like perfect,
1486
01:05:59.469 --> 01:06:00.289
but normal people.
1487
01:06:00.309 --> 01:06:04.829
Did you train the IDF?
1488
01:06:04.849 --> 01:06:08.829
Man, yeah. You called me out on something shameful I've done.
1489
01:06:08.869 --> 01:06:09.469
It was like a day.
1490
01:06:09.489 --> 01:06:10.869
That doesn't negate everything else you've done.
1491
01:06:11.889 --> 01:06:13.610
Let me add a little context to that, people. I
1492
01:06:13.989 --> 01:06:16.360
was flown out there on the Israel trip. I thought
1493
01:06:16.380 --> 01:06:18.280
they were our greatest ally. I was showing around how
1494
01:06:18.340 --> 01:06:19.869
great it was. I went for like a day and
1495
01:06:19.889 --> 01:06:20.610
taught them some moves.
1496
01:06:20.630 --> 01:06:21.349
Did you wear a little hat?
1497
01:06:21.389 --> 01:06:23.130
They probably went and torched people with the moves I
1498
01:06:23.170 --> 01:06:24.449
showed them. Oh, my God.
1499
01:06:24.530 --> 01:06:25.909
They probably choked people now.
1500
01:06:26.710 --> 01:06:29.150
Yeah, but it's like I got the tour around Israel.
1501
01:06:29.190 --> 01:06:31.969
We're so great, blah, blah. I have a good bullshit detector.
1502
01:06:32.010 --> 01:06:32.869
I could tell they were full of shit.
1503
01:06:32.889 --> 01:06:35.179
You know what's some bullshit? Krav Maga.
1504
01:06:35.460 --> 01:06:39.320
It's the most shit thing ever. They teach you how
1505
01:06:39.340 --> 01:06:40.820
to like gouge eyes and bite people.
1506
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:42.039
I already know how to do that.
1507
01:06:42.380 --> 01:06:44.550
I can already bite you. I don't need to take
1508
01:06:44.590 --> 01:06:45.090
lessons to do that.
1509
01:06:45.110 --> 01:06:46.670
I like the Boss Root and then go ahead, bite me.
1510
01:06:46.690 --> 01:06:47.389
I'm going to break your neck.
1511
01:06:47.449 --> 01:06:49.420
Yeah, exactly. Boss Root and Savage.
1512
01:06:49.579 --> 01:06:51.380
People that don't know, look up Boss Root and he's
1513
01:06:51.420 --> 01:06:54.360
just like, he fought open hand strikes, so he slapped,
1514
01:06:54.380 --> 01:06:56.929
but he would make his hand, he would knock people out.
1515
01:06:56.940 --> 01:06:59.380
It was part of the rule too in Pancreas.
1516
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:01.489
Dude, just a Savage OG.
1517
01:07:02.170 --> 01:07:04.010
People that are into fighting that don't watch the old
1518
01:07:04.050 --> 01:07:07.510
fights look up pride, not gay pride, pride fighting, strike force.
1519
01:07:07.530 --> 01:07:11.110
Well, every pride month, I do pride from Japan. I
1520
01:07:11.110 --> 01:07:12.000
was doing that once.
1521
01:07:12.099 --> 01:07:15.800
I started doing pride month, like a fighter of the day, Sakuraba.
1522
01:07:15.820 --> 01:07:18.260
Sakuraba, I was going to say Sakuraba, greasy killer.
1523
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.360
I started to do that, but after like day five,
1524
01:07:20.420 --> 01:07:22.260
no one had any interest. I was like, oh, never mind.
1525
01:07:22.300 --> 01:07:23.130
People aren't getting it.
1526
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:27.840
You know, that's where Dan Henderson and Anderson Silva and all,
1527
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:28.360
they started.
1528
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:30.320
He was two-division champ, Henderson.
1529
01:07:30.340 --> 01:07:31.000
Mm-hmm.
1530
01:07:31.579 --> 01:07:32.739
Thanks for fighting that guy.
1531
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:35.909
Some people think he got robbed in the Bisping fight.
1532
01:07:36.789 --> 01:07:39.230
When he fought Bisping, he knocked him the fuck out.
1533
01:07:39.269 --> 01:07:41.070
Yeah, he clearly won the first.
1534
01:07:40.869 --> 01:07:44.170
Time in the rematch. I fought Henderson.
1535
01:07:43.860 --> 01:07:45.820
Right after that fight. I'm biased. I like Bisping. He's
1536
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:46.659
got one eye, too.
1537
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:47.920
You one-eyed people?
1538
01:07:47.940 --> 01:07:50.699
Yeah, I'm biased. But I'm looking at it objectively, and
1539
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:51.980
I'm like, I think an argument could be made.
1540
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.400
I have to rewatch it. The first one, he dropped him.
1541
01:07:54.420 --> 01:07:56.570
Then he goes, jumps through the air, flying punch.
1542
01:07:57.070 --> 01:07:58.369
And he hit him again.
1543
01:07:58.389 --> 01:08:01.030
I fought him the very next fight after that.
1544
01:08:01.110 --> 01:08:03.130
That hit afterward was not necessary, man.
1545
01:08:03.170 --> 01:08:04.110
It was gnarly.
1546
01:08:04.210 --> 01:08:07.150
But they had this whole America-Britain thing. It's kind of silly.
1547
01:08:08.510 --> 01:08:10.260
I actually get along really well with Bisping. A lot
1548
01:08:10.530 --> 01:08:12.500
of people don't like him, but he's always treated me good.
1549
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.010
I haven't met him, but I like him.
1550
01:08:16.550 --> 01:08:17.449
Yeah, medical fighters.
1551
01:08:17.510 --> 01:08:22.229
Anyways, if you want to support, watch amazing films, all that, ryandawson.org.
1552
01:08:22.250 --> 01:08:23.810
And like I said, I think you're the best researcher
1553
01:08:23.850 --> 01:08:24.170
out there.
1554
01:08:24.189 --> 01:08:26.640
For 30 years, you've been doing this. I agree, but
1555
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:28.159
I'm biased. Yeah, you're a little biased.
1556
01:08:28.380 --> 01:08:30.140
No, but you just added so much that maybe you
1557
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:31.000
don't get the credit for.
1558
01:08:31.020 --> 01:08:33.539
I think what it is is prior to internet, people
1559
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:35.920
just wrote a lot of books. Like Michael Collins Piper,
1560
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:38.050
great read. Didn't make movies because you couldn't.
1561
01:08:38.270 --> 01:08:38.770
Yeah. Right?
1562
01:08:38.930 --> 01:08:39.090
Yeah.
1563
01:08:40.010 --> 01:08:42.310
But no, it's just so important what you've done and
1564
01:08:42.350 --> 01:08:43.430
not a lot of people like to credit you. So
1565
01:08:43.449 --> 01:08:44.449
I like to always try to give you appreciation.
1566
01:08:44.470 --> 01:08:46.489
No one's following my footsteps because they see what happened
1567
01:08:46.529 --> 01:08:47.649
to me and they're like, F that.
1568
01:08:48.069 --> 01:08:50.369
You suffered bad, man. They made you pay.
1569
01:08:50.390 --> 01:08:52.689
We're going to turn it around though. We're going to
1570
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:53.180
turn it around. Yeah.
1571
01:08:53.220 --> 01:08:55.380
If there's any, like, uh, when you get a big, um,
1572
01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:59.029
big anti-semitic sponsor to like like get our own daily
1573
01:08:59.050 --> 01:09:00.880
wire or something because they have so much money to
1574
01:09:00.909 --> 01:09:04.939
run these big like media liars no because we need
1575
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.239
our own media platform with the ones that aren't full
1576
01:09:07.260 --> 01:09:08.140
of shit a lot of people.
1577
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:10.199
Are subsects where it's at like we've got that's what
1578
01:09:10.220 --> 01:09:13.739
i'm starting that now for that and that's uh you
1579
01:09:13.779 --> 01:09:17.529
know look you you get what you support You'll get
1580
01:09:17.590 --> 01:09:20.630
more films, more articles, more truth if you support the
1581
01:09:20.670 --> 01:09:21.409
people doing that.
1582
01:09:21.430 --> 01:09:23.550
You have to support the people that are doing things.
1583
01:09:23.569 --> 01:09:25.069
I'm going to sign up to your sub stack because
1584
01:09:25.100 --> 01:09:27.239
the people that are doing stuff, you can't make films.
1585
01:09:27.300 --> 01:09:28.560
It goes back to what I said about media. We
1586
01:09:28.579 --> 01:09:29.060
fix the media.
1587
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:30.600
You can't make it with no money.
1588
01:09:30.619 --> 01:09:34.760
We fix everything downstream from it. The reason we finally
1589
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:37.590
got hearings in Congress about Epstein and out in the
1590
01:09:37.649 --> 01:09:40.770
files releases because of the public pressure that just would
1591
01:09:40.850 --> 01:09:46.319
not shut up. about Epstein from 2019 to 2025.
1592
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:48.260
You had the list out early. You have it on
1593
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:48.800
your shirt.
1594
01:09:48.819 --> 01:09:51.779
You're pushing it for years. But I don't know how many,
1595
01:09:51.979 --> 01:09:54.880
I have whatever circle of people, you know. We had
1596
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:58.760
Thomas Massey. We had, you know, a group broke on
1597
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:04.800
these people in D.C. talking about Les Wexner and Jess Daly.
1598
01:10:04.819 --> 01:10:06.020
You were telling me.
1599
01:10:06.060 --> 01:10:08.319
All this a long time ago about Wexner. I remember
1600
01:10:08.390 --> 01:10:11.460
years ago. Like, before anyone was talking about this.
1601
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:12.220
Yeah, but I was banned.
1602
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:13.159
Like, is this guy crazy?
1603
01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:15.859
There was a guy, this British guy, his name's Sean Atwood.
1604
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:20.119
He had the nutsack, the testicular fortitude to have me on,
1605
01:10:20.180 --> 01:10:22.119
and he did lose his channel. And then he got
1606
01:10:22.140 --> 01:10:26.079
it back again. But retrograde, we had to, retroactively, excuse me,
1607
01:10:26.100 --> 01:10:29.739
we had to erase all the interviews we did. They're on, like,
1608
01:10:29.859 --> 01:10:32.619
Odyssey still, but all the YouTube ones are gone. But
1609
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.380
a lot of people learned about Epstein because that guy
1610
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:36.159
let me on his show.
1611
01:10:36.180 --> 01:10:37.130
He had the balls to have you on.
1612
01:10:37.140 --> 01:10:40.340
He's got, like, a million followers or something, but... Yeah,
1613
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.680
he was like... And this is a dude that he's
1614
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:45.159
been given a second chance. He used to be an
1615
01:10:45.220 --> 01:10:46.640
ecstasy dealer. He'd been to prison.
1616
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:47.119
Oh, wow.
1617
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.930
Really nice person, though. He just likes to party in
1618
01:10:50.970 --> 01:10:57.069
his youth. He's a father, and he's like... If someone
1619
01:10:57.109 --> 01:10:59.069
told me that path, I'd be like, no, not him.
1620
01:10:59.170 --> 01:10:59.829
You never know.
1621
01:10:59.850 --> 01:11:01.649
We can change and grow. That's why you have to
1622
01:11:01.670 --> 01:11:03.500
give people second chances. Now, if you keep fucking up,
1623
01:11:03.539 --> 01:11:05.199
that's a different story. There are some things I could
1624
01:11:05.220 --> 01:11:06.100
never forgive you for.
1625
01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:09.909
Yeah, that jail straightened him out. But he was... Whatever.
1626
01:11:09.989 --> 01:11:12.369
I like them, and a lot of Epstein stuff came
1627
01:11:12.390 --> 01:11:15.229
from Atwood, so I'm just giving him the plug, Sean Atwood.
1628
01:11:15.250 --> 01:11:17.569
It's always good to credit where people that helped you
1629
01:11:17.609 --> 01:11:19.970
do the research. One last question.
1630
01:11:19.989 --> 01:11:21.810
Do you find you like a lot of the people
1631
01:11:21.869 --> 01:11:23.470
that are these influencers?
1632
01:11:23.510 --> 01:11:25.350
A lot of them, I think, are just like grifters.
1633
01:11:25.569 --> 01:11:27.590
There's some really great ones, too, but a lot of
1634
01:11:27.609 --> 01:11:29.430
people you realize, oh, there's for self-interest.
1635
01:11:30.729 --> 01:11:35.050
You know, I'm kind of a soft spot for black sheep.
1636
01:11:35.850 --> 01:11:39.710
So people like Jeremy McKenzie, who got banned on fucking everything,
1637
01:11:40.029 --> 01:11:45.859
or even someone like Dr. Duke. I'm like, because I
1638
01:11:46.220 --> 01:11:50.880
can empathize with getting showered off all media. Look, if
1639
01:11:50.899 --> 01:11:53.020
you don't like the guy's ideas, then just disagree.
1640
01:11:53.180 --> 01:11:55.770
He was banned and he couldn't defend himself.
1641
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:58.350
Yeah, bashing on someone when they're not allowed to talk
1642
01:11:58.409 --> 01:11:59.449
back is just gay.
1643
01:11:59.569 --> 01:12:01.789
It was so unfair. He was banned and so vilified.
1644
01:12:02.590 --> 01:12:04.109
My mom didn't want me to interview him. But then
1645
01:12:04.149 --> 01:12:05.609
after she watched it, she's like, oh, I'm sorry.
1646
01:12:05.689 --> 01:12:10.310
I think sunshine is the best policy. Whatever it is,
1647
01:12:10.770 --> 01:12:13.329
I don't care if it's communist or neo-Nazi or whatever.
1648
01:12:13.350 --> 01:12:14.050
Let them talk.
1649
01:12:14.350 --> 01:12:15.670
I've had communists and Nazis on.
1650
01:12:15.869 --> 01:12:20.090
Fine, yeah. But just I can argue back. That's how
1651
01:12:20.369 --> 01:12:22.529
you got it. I've converted a lot of– I've made
1652
01:12:22.550 --> 01:12:26.010
a lot of racist people become not racist by explaining
1653
01:12:26.029 --> 01:12:28.409
and listening. They're like, well, white people invented everything.
1654
01:12:28.430 --> 01:12:28.510
Yeah.
1655
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:34.029
That's a product of free markets, not genetics. At the
1656
01:12:34.069 --> 01:12:36.970
same time period, there were periods in history where Europeans
1657
01:12:36.989 --> 01:12:41.229
weren't doing anything and everything was around from Egypt or
1658
01:12:41.270 --> 01:12:44.670
China or around the Mediterranean, some white, Greek and Roman
1659
01:12:44.710 --> 01:12:49.829
for sure, the Carthage. Everybody's had the torch at some point.
1660
01:12:49.890 --> 01:12:52.689
Japanese have done a lot of things. It's a product
1661
01:12:53.229 --> 01:12:56.130
of your market system, like a lot of different things.
1662
01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.819
It's so simple, like, well, they were white, and da-da-da-da-da.
1663
01:13:00.300 --> 01:13:02.260
I think where they come from is because white people
1664
01:13:02.300 --> 01:13:03.760
are so demonized.
1665
01:13:04.220 --> 01:13:05.079
Yeah, they're overcorrect.
1666
01:13:05.100 --> 01:13:07.500
We're taught hate, so that's the rebound.
1667
01:13:07.819 --> 01:13:09.539
And they are. So I understand that. It's like you
1668
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.279
are allowed to be racist to white people. It's messed up.
1669
01:13:12.550 --> 01:13:14.989
We're taught to hate ourselves as kids. That's why I
1670
01:13:15.010 --> 01:13:15.850
emphasize these people.
1671
01:13:15.890 --> 01:13:17.970
Even though I don't agree with it, that's why I
1672
01:13:18.529 --> 01:13:19.869
can relate to why they're coming there.
1673
01:13:20.449 --> 01:13:22.779
Oh, I get it. It doesn't bother me.
1674
01:13:23.449 --> 01:13:24.050
No, exactly.
1675
01:13:24.069 --> 01:13:25.270
I don't care.
1676
01:13:25.289 --> 01:13:27.350
I have black supremacist friends.
1677
01:13:27.550 --> 01:13:29.930
Yeah, same. I don't buy them either.
1678
01:13:30.090 --> 01:13:32.229
Guys, cool. We get along surprisingly. You wouldn't expect.
1679
01:13:32.390 --> 01:13:34.869
To me, it's like, oh, you're bad at math. Okay.
1680
01:13:35.069 --> 01:13:36.789
There's something you're not good at.
1681
01:13:36.949 --> 01:13:37.270
Whatever.
1682
01:13:37.390 --> 01:13:41.350
Treat me good. But to answer your question, I find
1683
01:13:41.369 --> 01:13:44.310
a lot of influencers fucking annoying because they're just a
1684
01:13:44.350 --> 01:13:46.850
bunch of clout chasing me, me, me egoists.
1685
01:13:46.869 --> 01:13:48.289
That's what I realized.
1686
01:13:48.909 --> 01:13:51.949
There's some that are not, and there's a lot that are.
1687
01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:55.020
And I've watched it happen. I won't mention some names,
1688
01:13:55.060 --> 01:14:00.420
but I'm like, God, all they think about, they're like, yo, chat, chat, chat.
1689
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:01.880
Chat is your God.
1690
01:14:01.899 --> 01:14:04.699
I realize most of them are just for the cloud.
1691
01:14:04.850 --> 01:14:06.350
Everyone has a little self-interest.
1692
01:14:06.390 --> 01:14:06.930
I'm not going to lie.
1693
01:14:06.970 --> 01:14:08.789
I have a little self-interest, but I've lost a lot
1694
01:14:08.810 --> 01:14:10.310
of money and I wouldn't change it. I doubt you
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would change anything you've done. I would still fucking do
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it because it's more important to me.
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I might have done it anonymously if I could start over.
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Yeah, right. No, because you've suffered more than me, but.
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There was no one before me to look at to
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see that that was going to happen.
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We were ostracized from pretty much everything.
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Socially, too, or no?
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No.
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Because you were in the jiu-jitsu world and stuff, so
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no one really cares. Yeah, my friends are my friends,
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but it sucks to lose payment processors in banks. I
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put 15 years into building something up, and they pulled
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the rug. I got kicked off crypto exchanges, too. I
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couldn't even ride that wave.
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If you don't have a payment processor, you can't make money.
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I had to move to another country, learn a different language,
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and be self-employed. You can't hold that standard to everybody.
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It just sucks when they take something from you that
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you've built. Again, I haven't suffered as bad as you,
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but it still sucks.
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What sucks is I don't even have any extreme positions.
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I'm saying don't kill kids. Don't kill kids. The Unabomber
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is probably my most extreme thing. I'm saying, yes, what
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he did was fucked up, but he still has some
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good points in the manifesto.
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But do you think you should build a rape nun?
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Gotcha anti-Semitism it's written in the magic book my most
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extreme view is I don't think should sodomize Palestinian.
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Prisoners yeah rape is wrong.
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Thanks so much for coming on sure I'll have you
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back soon awesome man let's go roll this is our
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second interview people that's why I already get the fuck
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out of here as many of you know I have
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many controversial guests so that comes at a cost of
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being demonetized everywhere So if you want to support the program,
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go to fightbackpodcast.com, and I have all kinds of merch
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on there, whether it's jiu-jitsu, fighting, political, and other accessories.
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And thanks for the support.