Ep. 63: Drinking With...Elf

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The Sobros Network presents the Movie podcast, breaking down films
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and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
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legal drinking age.
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This is Drinking With Now Here's your host Steven m.
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Cash Seasons, Greetings, happy holidays, everybody. Welcome to Drinking With
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the podcast, where we raise a glass to the movies
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that have reached the legal drinking age. I'm your host,
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Steve mcash with the Sobros Network, and join me as
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we embark on a cinematic journey through the classics of yesteryear,
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celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style, all from iconic
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blockbusters the hidden Gems. Each episode will toast to a
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different film that has stood the test of time and
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shaped our cultural landscape. So grab your favor beverage or
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the one we have curated for this episode especially, and
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let's dive into the nostalgia as we explore movies that
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are finally old enough to join us for a drink.
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There are two men in this world. I can't think
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of two better men that will be able to sit
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down and stumble out of it and then stumble out
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of a bar after a long discussion of movies. First,
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as the resident film critic of the Sobros Network, mister
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Brandon Vick, who's also a member of the Southeastern Film
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Critics Association, a board member of the Music City Films
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Critics Association, and most importantly right here at the Sobros Network.
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He's the birth giver of the vix Flicks and Cinema
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Chronicles podcast. And joining him and myself is the man,
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the myth, the legend behind the Sobros Network, the heady
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I see the glue of the brand. A jen aficionado,
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a cat lover, a husband, a wordsmith of the football variety.
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Mister Stony keey Howe, is this holiday season for us
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both well?
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I am grateful for such a kind intro, very very
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nice of you, mccash, and it is the most wonderful
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time of year. And I personally feel like there may
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be some issues with the film that we are going
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to discuss today, but I still I still consider it
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a holiday classic. Watch it every Christmas season.
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It is not my go to, and I know a
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lot of people are going to be shocked because I'm
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pretty sure it has become everyone's go to. Not that
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I don't watch it. I have family that love it,
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but that's not. Honestly, it was. It wasn't quite my
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thing when I saw it in theaters, and over time
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it's it's fine, but I just don't I don't get
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too excited about it, like like other folk.
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I think we're all in some form of agreement here
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because I just saw this film for the first time
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last holiday season and I refuse to rewatch it for
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this podcast. WHOA dang, this was not is not for me. Uh,
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But we're talking about the holiday staple that it's become
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over the last twenty one years. We're talking about Elf,
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and Elf is about Buddy, a human who was accidentally
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transported to the North Pole as a baby and raised
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by elves, and as an adult, Buddy discovers that he
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is not actually an elf and decides to travel to
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New York City to find his biological father, Walter Hobbes,
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who is on Santa's Naughty List. Buddy's innocent and enthusiastic
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nature leads to a series of comedic and enduring encounters
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as he tries to fit into the human world and
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spread Christmas cheer. The that is me And that's probably
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about as positive as I'm going to get about this film.
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Dang, damn strong thing.
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Indeed, we could sit here talking about love actually, but
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instead the A We're doing multiple holiday films this year,
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so I get we are going to get to love actually,
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but we're treating Elf as the Varsity podcast episode, and
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we're treating Love Actually as the JV squad. I think
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we should have called up Love Actually, but hey, we're
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here now. I'm gonna put my bitterness to the side
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until we talk about love actually. But this film was
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directed by John Favreau, who I adore, I've loved since Swingers,
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so and it stars a phenomenal cast. I can't argue this.
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You've got Will Ferrell, you got James conn as his
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father Walter. You got the lovely, delightful Zoe Deschanel. You
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have two comedic legends, and Bob Newhart and Ed Asner.
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You got Mary Steinberger Bergen. Excuse me, Peter Dinklic not
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playing in Elf. Yeah, you've got Faison Love, who had
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a phenomenal supporting role in a film this past year
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called Last Stop in You mccounty. Yeah, Amy Sedaris a
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comedic legend as well as long as well as Conan
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O'Brien's sidekick Andy Richter, Jack black sidekick Kyle Glass from
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Tenacious D. It's a it's a great comedic line up there.
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Yeah, And when you really lay it all out like that,
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I don't think you ever really feel I don't think
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you ever really feel the full brunt of that lineup
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at any point in this film. It kind of feels
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like they just you lean on Will Ferrell's buddy character
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and the dynamic between he and his father. But I
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think some of these names that you mentioned, mcash are
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kind of casualties to the how big the film wanted
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to play that out.
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Yeah, Brandon, I just I mean I agree. I mean,
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Bob Newhart's just kind of you know, he's kind of
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there at the beginning and at the end, which is fine. Yeah,
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I mean I adore him. Ed Asner as Santa Claus
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I thought was a nice touch. I love Mary Steinberg
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and I I you know, but she had I think
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everyone had a better time on Step Brothers because she
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also was in that. But yeah, and I'm not but yeah,
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it's all it's really about, which I mean, James con
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was a great casting choice. And if I'm not mistaken,
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and maybe mccash will tell us, but I almost think
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he wasn't going to do it, and I think he
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also it reminds me of the story of Batman Forever,
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where Tommy Lee Jones basically hated Jim Carrey. I think
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James Kahn in in a way, especially before they started filming,
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acted like Will Ferrell's like was like too dumb, like
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too silly. But he did give him. He did give
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him as props because he did flowers. He did because
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he was like, I don't know what it is, but
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it works. But but yeah, they rely really on that
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father son dynamic and just the you know, I mean
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the Christmas Christmas cheer.
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Yeah, I think that's the big component of the film.
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I also think maybe the beef between Will Ferrell and
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James conn is probably the spiciest thing to come out
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of this film.
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Oh, I agree. Oh yeah, I disagree. There's another beef
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that I think is bigger. Oh that's between Will Ferrell
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and Jon Favreau. Oh, which we'll touch on as we
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get get deeper into the episodes. But on surface, this
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is a really sweet film. It's a nice family film.
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It is you know, if you got kids, it's definitely
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in your rotation for holiday films. Sure, and it being
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so sweet, it deserves to have a sweet drink to
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go along with it. Honestly, I'm gonna pull back the curtain.
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As we've done before. We don't always drink drinks we
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come up with because a lot of times we don't
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have the ingredients and such. This is one where it's
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not about the having the ingredients or not. It's just
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the fact that I honestly think it would destroy my
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stomach if I tried to drink them. Okay, but today
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we're gonna make Buddies balance Breakfast as the drink for
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As the drink for ELF, I think you're gonna take. Yeah,
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you're gonna take an ounce and a half of Rye whiskey,
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three quarters ounce of maple syrup, a quarter ounce of
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cream to cocoa, and three dashes of chocolate bitters. You're
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also on hand, gonna need some Weather's original hard candy,
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some Christmas themed candy corn if you will, and a
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candy cane. You're gonna combine all the liquid ingredients into
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a cocktail mixing glass with some ice. You're gonna stir
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it together. You're gonna pour over ice with the Weather's
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candy stuck to the bottom. Of the glass, so it
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kind of like I don't know the scientific word that
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I'm trying to look for, but nonetheless, and then take
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a skewer with three candy corns and serve with a
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candy cane on the side as garnish, and that is
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Buddy's Balance breakfast. My stomach is churning thinking about all
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the sugar that is in that drink.
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It's ten thirty in the morning as we're recording this,
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Like you said to peak, take a peek behind the curtain,
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and you reading off the ingredients of that. I think,
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I'm I'm probably too old to drink that much less
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oh yeah, in the morning as we're talking about it.
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But I know there are people out there, maybe in
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this household that I sit in, that would like a
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drink like that.
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Maybe I got diabetes.
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Well that only leaves one other person.
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So I think if you have a nice little fire going,
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and you know it's you, your loved one on the
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on the sofa, ready to put on bear skin rug
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on the bear skin rug, and you want a nice
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like I guess this could be with the maple syrup
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and the whiskey. It could be. It'll be a warm drink. Yeah,
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for sure, you know that'll that will definitely you know,
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layer your your stomach linings. I think it could be
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a good drink for you. But tenth thirty in the morning,
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like you said, there's no way in hell I'm digesting.
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And and on that bear skin rug you could be
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wearing like a candy cane scarf that you could use
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to clean up later. Am I right?
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Just a candy cast that's right? That you?
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Oh man, I don't think. I think when everyone watches ELF,
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they think about fucking Merry Christmas.
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Well you see Mary Steinberg.
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And Bob Newhart get Yeah, I didn't know which one
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would be funnier, Bob Newhart or Andy Richter.
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So but I think Bob Newhart's the movie there.
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Yeah, because Andy Richter could be in. I mean he could,
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he could do some bounding.
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I don't.
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I don't think Bob could not anymore.
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Which cast member of ELF do you think Fuck's the best?
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I bet you it was James Kahn. Yeah, like then
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in two thousand and three, I think he still could
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do it.
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No, I'm one hundred percent, So I.
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Think that's enough about uh fucking on bearskin rugs.
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James Cohn. You you do you admit.
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James kN gonna grab you by the hips and make
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you feel it.
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Yeah, Well he's dead now, so yeah, but in two
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three two three.
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Spirit money, Yeah, I'm I don't want people to think
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I'm talking like James conn like Godfather in Physical in
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his physical prime. No, I'm talking about two thousand and three.
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Gotcha got you? Well? In two thousand and three, when
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this film was made and released? What do we think
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it costs to get that movie made?
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I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say twenty four million.
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I'm gonna say like forty eight.
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Okay, Sonny, I think you're a little on the closer side.
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It was thirty three million. Wow, to get Elf made
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in two thousand and three.
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I think it made. I don't want to spoiler, spoil
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your thing, but I think it made three billion dollars.
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So we'll see what what do you think it really made?
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Here in just a second. So it opened November ninth,
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two thousand and.
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Three, Prime Prime ro State, yep.
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US, Canada, opening weekend. What do we think it made?
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I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say twenty six million.
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Oh no, it's higher than that. I think I kind.
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Of feel like I have vague memories of this being
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I don't want to say, like a cult holiday movie,
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but I feel like it was one of those films
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that didn't really get its legs and establish itself until
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a couple weeks in. Like, I don't think I don't
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remember going to see this on opening weekend and it
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being like a.
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The I and m caash is about to tell me
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if I'm wrong or not, but I swear I think
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it was a hit immediately and it had legs, like
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I think it went through into December. Okay, all right,
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you said twenty four. I'm gonna say I know it
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was number one, and I swear I feel like it
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had a big weekend. So I'm going to go higher
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and say I'm gonna say fifty three.
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Brandon, You're both of your takes are extremely wrong.
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Okay.
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Not only did it not make over fifty thousand dollars,
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it also wasn't the number one film at the box
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office that weekend either.
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Yeah, why what else came out?
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I'm gonna get to that. Did you think it.
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Didn't make over fifty thousand dollars?
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Fifty million?
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Okay? I was about to say, how dare you. I
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know it may won fifty grand.
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So it made thirty two point one million dollars opening weekends,
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and it was in second place by a mile, to
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the forty eight and a half million dollars that the
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Matrix Revolutions made open any weekend that weekend.
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Man, I could have sworn it was such a big deal.
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much money.
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those films that you looked up eight weeks later and said,
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holy shit.
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I guess in two thousand and three. Listen, in all fairness,
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it made its budget back basically in one weekend. I mean,
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it's not bad, but I did think it was a
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big like a big deal and family friendly. But I
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guess with Matrix that does kind of make sense.
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It was like a Snowball film. People went and saw it,
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and then they kept going to see it, and then
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they were telling their friends what a fun little Christmas
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movie it was, and.
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People it again too.
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Yeah, I know I did. I went to see it
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twice in theaters. But I know, like at the time,
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this is when Will Ferrell is kind of starting to
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get that's true his star power, and I think I don't.
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Know if the first leading this is his first leading role.
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I was about to say, I don't know if m
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cash is going to get to it. But there were
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some questions about whether or not Will Ferrell could play
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the lead in a film like this, and I know,
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like reading some pieces on it from the past, I
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can't source them, of course it's been so long. But
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there were a lot of people that said, like, you've
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got the aid of this being a holiday film released
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in November, that is kind of you know, people kind
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of felt like that'll be a crutch for Will Ferrell
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and you can kind of test the waters and it's
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not going to be a catastrophe because people will still
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go see it for the holiday charm of it.
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I bet you it made maybe I bet you it
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made a billion dollars in DVD sales.
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I don't have that knowledge, but I wouldn't just probably
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disagree with you.
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I could see that one hundred percent. Yeah.
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Yeah, So total US Canada box office was just over
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one hundred and seventy eight million dollars, damn. And then
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worldwide total it made two hundred and twenty nine million,
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So it's like.
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In the Green over two hundred million dollars.
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This is why he got to make semi.
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Is that right?
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But you would think you would think that kind of
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box office success would lead to a sequel, which we
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will get to in time, but sadly it never has
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come to fruition.
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No, I do know. I'm not gonna real the whole thing,
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but I do know it was if a couple of
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parties got together, it would have been possible. But I
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do know. Will Ferrell has said that they offered him.
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I think he got like a twenty million dollar paycheck
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if he had done the sequel, and I think part
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of the reason is what you're gonna tell us, but
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that he basically was like, no, I'm not going back
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to do it, so, especially if someone's involved.
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Are you guys surprised that there hasn't been a reboot
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of this yet?
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I mean, I don't know, because it's kind of like
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it's a wonderful there's some Christmas movies. I guess that's like, Uh,
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this is like even even the studios today think it's
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probably a bad idea yea, yeah, because one it's not
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like it's one that was like forgotten like made in
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the fifties. But I feel like these and elf is
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has become one of these where it plays all the
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time through the holidays. They tend to not be touched
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because it's fresh on everyone's mind every year, no matter
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how long. That's just I see, but I mean, listen,
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they made a sequel to a Christmas story.
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I was about saying one, I see ELF as that
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generation's Christmas story. Yeah, from the early two thousand.
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Yeah, yeah, that's that's fair.
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It's just on repeat whole Christmas season on some channel.
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At some point. You can flick through all the channels
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and at some point between Thanksgiving and Christmas you will
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find that movie at every point of the day on
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some channel somewhere.
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Yeah, it's like dumb hot Bukas during spooky season.
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Yep. That's that's another. That's a great comparison. But the
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fine folks in Australia were the largest grossing country outside
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of North America for ELF, bringing in six point two
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million dollars. That helps, hell ya, But the people, the
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fine folks in Bolivia were not put in the holiday
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spirit by Alfie. The only cashed in a little over
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seven thousand dollars.
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Out of Siberia or Serbia Serbia that did it win any? Yeah?
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Won any made it.
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Made like seventy eight million dollars.
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I bet, I bet if people that listened to this
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podcast regularly paid it close enough attention, they could they
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could put the the the the lines together to see
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when certain films, I mean, certain episodes are recorded together.
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Correct, because we just called back to.
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An episode like three months ago we did.
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Yeah, And I'll tell you how people know is because
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any other time I wouldn't remember what we talked about.
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That's so true.
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Yep.
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Uh.
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Let's see if you remember this Rotten Tomatoes. The critics
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there were over two hundred reviews of ELF on Rotten Tomatoes.
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What do we think the percentage was?
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I'm going to say sixty five.
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I'm gonna say seventy three.
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Wow, y'all are not giving the critics any love at all.
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It was positive by a rating of eighty six percent. Wow.
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I almost said eighties, says I remember thinking that, and
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the audience score were pretty high. But Rotten Tomatoes also
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lets people review a movie like two years ago that
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came out thirty years ago. True, so they kind of
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jamp in the mood there but all right, all right,
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that's a solid one.
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Okay. On the audience side, there was over two hundred
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and fifty thousand reviews. Jesus, how positive did this movie rate?
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Probably like ninety four.
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I was gonna say ninety five.
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Yeah, y'all are given the audience more love than you
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gave the The audience didn't love it as nearly as
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the critics did, at only seventy nine percent.
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That's surprising.
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That is surprising. Yeah, I beg thoughts changed.
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Well, they probably took my review of the film and
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gave it a lot of more you know, creed and credits,
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and that brought the rating down. Probably.
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Oh so it's your fault, solely your fault.
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Yeah, take full responsibility for his seventy nine percent rating,
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which is still good. It's still good.
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Yeah, still pretty damn good. Uh, Borderlands would like to have.
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That shittiest movie of the year.
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I'm gonna agree, and I never saw it and I
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don't have plans on seeing it.
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Good for you, Yeah, yeah, good choice.
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Let's see what the people on letterbox thought here. We
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got some reviews here.
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I'm curious, Carson, negative reviews on letterbox say about this film.
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I don't didn't find any. He didn't find a single one.
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No, that were some, but I think I I grab
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fairly mostly positive ones. Carston here gives three and a
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half stars to Elf and alerts us to look, it's
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all fun and games until you realize your diet isn't
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that far from buddies.
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That's good.
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That's good and very true. Sadly U Pilot Lantern t
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y l o t Lantern gives three stars to Elf
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and says it's a nice family movie about Santa Claus
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kidnapping a child and forcing him to do child labor
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in his workshop.
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That's good. Yeah, that's good.
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That's also not too far off.
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It's not it's not too far not at all.
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It really could have been a movie.
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Maybe that's the real reboot? Is the rated R?
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Very Yeah, the people that do that stupid Pooh, Blood
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and Honey, they could do an ELF one. Oh god,
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that's that's rateed R.
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Those movies are neither dumb or stupid, sir. But I'm
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gonna I'm gonna digress and move on because gryffin Newman.
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But fuck Adventures. I guarantee you the title's not that
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far off. Whoever does it.
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Look Griffin Newman, Uh kind of kind of feels the
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same way we do above all else, a true top
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to bottom triumph of casting in every single role.
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Yeah, yeah, that there's no I have no problem with
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performances or anything. I just feel like there's you know,
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a little.
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I don't. I don't even want to call it lazy
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the writing or anything, but it's just it's just didn't
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register with me.
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It's very cookie cutter.
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Yes, it's, and it's and it's and it's very familiar
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in many ways. If it wasn't for Will Ferrell, I
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think I don't. I don't think you would have. I
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just don't think it would be as good. Like, there's nothing,
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there's nothing story telling wise, it's like, oh my goodness,
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what a what a grand idea? And honestly, I don't
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think anybody could play Buddy. I feel like it had
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to be Will Ferrell and by and what we were
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talking about. It had to be a like a up
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and coming Will Ferrell.
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Yeah, I would. I would give James Kahn his flowers
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as well for being such a like polar opposite from
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Will Ferrell. Yes, I think it adds to the dynamic.
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The father he plays, and I think there there's a
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lot of Will Ferrell's Buddy that is enhanced by James
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Kahn as that's sort of antagonist.
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Yeah, now that's true. I do think one. I think
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Will Ferrell doesn't really need James Kahn as much as
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James Kahn's performance I feel like comes from Buddy. Yeah,
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but they do work well off each other. And I
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and if anybody thought Will Ferrell and James kNN would
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be the perfect duo, you're insane in a membrane.
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Sitting down in a Hollywood board meeting. You know what
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we need Will Ferrell and James con story.
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And you know what, James Conkin still fuck sorry, go ahead.
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And then in that board room in two thousand and two,
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two thousand and three, they're all going like, who's Will
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Ferrell exactly?
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Oh?
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That guy at Roxbury, the guy from old School shakes.
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His heady at SNL. Lastly from Letterbox, Curse Tells asked
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the question, We're all thinking, why can't I pull bitches
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like Buddy down?
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Yeah?
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Damn. He even sneaks in and starts singing in the shower. Yeah,
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that's that gets you arrested.
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It's problematic. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it's it's problematic.
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But you know why. It's because he's so like innocent
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and wholesome. It's like, oh, he's not here to exactly.
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That's how every pedophile works.
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I think he's a manipulator.
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Yes, yes, exactly. Take her to the Here.
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Here's I'm in the boardroom in Hollywood. Here's my pitch.
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What if we get a Buddy Cop movie with Buddy
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the Elf and the kid from There's something about Mary
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that kept saying, Frank some beans, Frank some beans.
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There we go, that's the reboot.
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We mean, that's that's the other guys too.
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There you go, that's even better the hell with Mark Wahl. Yeah, yeah,
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let's talk about food. You know, we have Buddy's Balanced
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Breakfast as our drink today, but there's a lot of
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food throughout this film, and the scene when Buddy eats
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different candies and pastries with the spaghetti noodles had to
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be shot twice because Will Ferrell vomited the first time
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eating all that food.
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I do it, but yeah I don't. Yeah, that makes
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total sense.
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Man, Who was it?
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Was it?
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I hoop a few years ago that did like the
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Buddy the Elf pass.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think so that just.
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Because we're Americans.
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Yeah. The more important question is why does so many
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people order it?
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Fair enough? Fair enough?
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Was it so popular American?
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Why is it back this year? Yeah?
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But I can't get him ric rib. What's wrong with
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this world? Amen?
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Yeah? Yeah, damn McDonald's. And they're really suffering.
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While Buddy is in the doctor's office eating the cotton balls.
490
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.759
Those cotton balls were actually cotton candy that were never died.
491
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.000
Oh lucky, Oh so lucky.
492
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:35.759
This was nice cotton candy.
493
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:36.759
Yes, good for him.
494
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.519
All this time, I just thought cotton candy was naturally pink.
495
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:43.519
I thought that's what came out.
496
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:47.480
Then I thought cotton balls tasted like cotton candy.
497
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.279
Cotton balls were made of cotton candy.
498
00:26:50.359 --> 00:27:00.640
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's why I put them in my ears.
499
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:58.880
Through your bloodstream? Is that how you're doing it?
500
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.119
I think that's how they can. Now now I'm starting
501
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.640
to see why I have why I'm a diabetic.
502
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:11.559
But uh. Throughout the filming of The of Elf, Will
503
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.960
Ferrell suffered from headaches and insomnia as he had to
504
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.440
actually eat all this sugary food in the Elf food
505
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.039
Pyramid on camera golly, why.
506
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.759
John Favreau needs to get with it. There's ways you
507
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.160
can get without making that man eat all that junk.
508
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.079
As we've come to find out, John Favreau really likes cooking,
509
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.599
so clearly he could have helped in the food department.
510
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:40.079
Yeah.
511
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:42.000
The lastly, when it came with the food, I don't
512
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.440
know if you know it's not but the elves, instead
513
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.960
of having a picture of coffee in their break room,
514
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.000
it was actually a picture of syrup, like maple syrup.
515
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:52.680
Did they really drink it?
516
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:53.720
I hope not.
517
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.200
I bet they did. I bet they did.
518
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.799
You run a tight ship on this set, I guess.
519
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.000
I don't want to. Well, you're fired. I'm gonna do
520
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.279
Iron Man next, and I don't care what you want.
521
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.319
We just got people throwing up left and.
522
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.200
Right, all these elves, which I don't think. I don't
523
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.759
think any of them are actual elves.
524
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:18.039
Maybe maybe they didn't throw up from from all the
525
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.799
candy they were eating. They actually were on set watching
526
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:21.920
High Tension.
527
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.200
That's right. They're on set watching.
528
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.799
Reaction or they're watching James con funk.
529
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.799
I would make me sick, buddy, all right, So I
530
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:44.759
don't know who's he doing though, wait a minute, don't Peter.
531
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.799
Hey, Peter could take it though.
532
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.839
Hell yeah, we've painted quite a picture of the elves
533
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.480
set Will fer corner.
534
00:28:58.839 --> 00:28:59.920
They don't want to see you all.
535
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.839
James Cohn, fucking Andy Richter and the other.
536
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:09.799
And I don't know if we've given Tom Cruise his
537
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.519
flowers on any episode of this podcast, but he's become
538
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:14.200
well known.
539
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.559
I haven't done anything with Tom Cruise.
540
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:20.720
We got to fix that. Yeah, yeah, but we all
541
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.319
know he In recent years, he's become really well known
542
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:25.480
for doing his own stunts.
543
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:26.079
Yeah.
544
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.680
In the film, we can't say the same about Will Ferrell.
545
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.079
God, he didn't jump in front of a taxi.
546
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.400
He may have. He may have done his physical stunts,
547
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.839
but he didn't do all of his vocal stunts.
548
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:39.039
Oh is it singing?
549
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:41.799
No, it's belching.
550
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:43.599
Oh yeah.
551
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.759
The long twelve second twelve second belt was supplied not
552
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.240
by Will Ferrell, but by Maurice LaMarsh, who is best
553
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.960
known in the cartoon world as the Brain from Pinking
554
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:57.440
The Brain.
555
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.480
That Holy whoa, what a fantastic nugget.
556
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:03.839
The what did he get paid?
557
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.200
Yeah?
558
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:06.400
Curious?
559
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.039
I think he got like thirty two million of the
560
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:10.759
thirty three Well that's.
561
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.480
A pivotal scene. That is true, gotta have that. That's
562
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.720
one of the more recognizable scenes. That's very Yeah, also
563
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.599
something that plays to children. I didn't find it funny.
564
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.559
Yeah. Yeah, it's moreh isn't it.
565
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.200
Yeah.
566
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.519
There were several minor traffic accidents that occurred during filming,
567
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:33.000
especially when Will Ferrell walked through the Lincoln Tunnel in
568
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.200
his costume, because people were so surprised and distracted from
569
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.759
their driving to see him wearing an elf costume. Fair
570
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.640
because Will Ferrell's like, what six ' four something.
571
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.359
Like, Yeah, and I'm pretty sure this is done, Like,
572
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.079
I'm pretty sure they film it like in the spring
573
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.880
or summer, and I don't think it's actually filmed in winter.
574
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.759
So I'm I'm curious, like what their legal responsibility is.
575
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.400
Yeah, and why don't they just have a closed set? Yeah,
576
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.200
couldn't afford it only thirty three million dollars.
577
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.799
I guess, so, yes, so just went out in the wild.
578
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.519
Yeah. And on the final on the final day of
579
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.559
shooting in New York City, it was just director John Favreau,
580
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.920
Will Ferrell, and the cameraman driving around the city looking
581
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.160
for locations to shoot where they would have will jump
582
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.319
out and ask pedestrians. Oh well, Favreau and the cameraman
583
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.240
would jump out and ask pedestrians that they'd be willing
584
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.799
to be extras for some quick cash, while Farrell uh
585
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:31.599
or will dammit I almost called him Farrell as he
586
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.480
paraded around acting like Buddy or they would let Pharrell
587
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:40.640
Farrell damnit surprise people and ask their permissions afterwards. So
588
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.000
like when the man Buddy mistakes for Santa, that was
589
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.039
all improved on the spot. You know, the man had
590
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:47.720
no idea what was going on, wasn't there.
591
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.519
Do I remember a story where one of the people
592
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.720
like got pissed and like actually like started to try
593
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.799
and fight, yeah, Ferrel, and people had to jump in
594
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.000
and say no, no, no, I don't know.
595
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:57.400
Yeah.
596
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.079
I think it was one where he kind of chased
597
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:00.839
him a bit and they had let him in on
598
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:01.720
what was happening.
599
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.640
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Uh So much of that montage
600
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.960
when Buddy first arrives in New York City was filmed
601
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.279
on that last day, such as when he is getting
602
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:12.319
his shoes shine and jumping between traffic.
603
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.119
I like that approach though. I think it does add
604
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.200
a pretty pretty nice element of natural humor to the film.
605
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:22.920
I think it just hit me when we're talking about
606
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:26.599
like basically, like what do they call it? Like is
607
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.519
it gorilla like gorilla like just like jumping out, running
608
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.119
and stuff. What if else was a film footage movie?
609
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.039
Oh huh man, there's an idea.
610
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.720
Right, I swear someone comes up with it.
611
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:40.119
There.
612
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.720
You could do a pretty interesting, fun little found footage
613
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.279
Christmas movie. You need to get that idea out in
614
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:48.039
the Hollywood board.
615
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:53.759
Okay, yeah, I have been focused on James con fucking that.
616
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.640
I haven't really thought about this. I haven't really explored it.
617
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.559
Call the guys from the Winnie the Pooh move and
618
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:01.400
let's make this happen.
619
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:02.640
Hey, you guys will make anything.
620
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.359
So we talked about the food and like some of
621
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.359
the reactions, Will Ferrell's body had to it. John Favreau
622
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.400
in fact, notes that he went on the Atkins diet
623
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.480
and lost forty pounds after filming his scene as the
624
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.960
doctor because he said at the time that he looked
625
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:20.799
like a tall ship with a big seal in his
626
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:21.400
white coat.
627
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:26.279
Damn he he's he's he can be a big boy.
628
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:27.240
Yeah.
629
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.839
Because of this, Will Ferrell gave Favreau a tall ship
630
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.960
and a bottle as a rat present. Shove it up
631
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:40.799
your ass, John, So mister Disney. John Ferrell likes the
632
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.039
idea that the film might be watched year after year
633
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.839
by people who have already seen it once before. He
634
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.039
wanted to include several Easter eggs throughout the film for
635
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.359
people to pick up and future viewings, and the shot
636
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.839
of Buddy trampling through Central Park like Bigfoot, is one
637
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:57.759
of those moments.
638
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:03.480
Yes one, Yes, yeah, I do definitely see the vision
639
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:08.119
of let's aim for holiday classic with this one.
640
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:14.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree that when I watch it.
641
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:18.760
Maybe more so than let's create a really good story here.
642
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.639
Yeah. Well, they hit like the setting and of course
643
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.760
New York and stuff. I mean again, it's stuff you've
644
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:26.880
seen before. But I mean I'm not saying there's not
645
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.880
good parts in it. There are some funny stuff, but yeah.
646
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:34.000
Yeah, uh And my one viewing, I did not pick
647
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.760
up on this this connection. But the film is a
648
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.719
lot like big the Tom Hanks movie from nineteen eighty eight.
649
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.119
You know, it's a film about a kid who is
650
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.000
forced to grow up too quickly and learns his way
651
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.440
around the big city. And Jon Favreau likes the comedy
652
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.760
that Will Ferrell brought to the film, but he stated
653
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.800
that if if you don't have a good story and
654
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.199
an emotional aspect of the story, people grow weary of
655
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.079
just one comic bit after the next. I think they
656
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.559
want to see a story that engages them on emotional level.
657
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.960
And though I didn't really care for ELF, I get
658
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.719
exactly his point there, and I think the film did
659
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:09.880
accomplish that.
660
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:11.159
Yeah.
661
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.039
Yeah, And that's the thing that's really kind of where
662
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.840
James con comes in. He brings it, Yeah, he brings
663
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.880
he keeps it grounded because Will Ferrell is gonna is
664
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.119
gonna run wild that emotional thing. I could see that.
665
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:25.679
It's the arc.
666
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.880
It's the arc of from one thing to another, metamorphosis.
667
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.159
I don't think Favreau balances out what he's trying to be,
668
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:35.559
what he thinks the audience will be weary of, because
669
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.639
a lot of it is. Yeah, it's not so much.
670
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:41.239
The story is just these little bits over and over
671
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.719
and over, but luckily some there's some kind of connection
672
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.360
by the end. But I don't think it's as big
673
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.119
of a one as he is suggesting.
674
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.880
I would agree with that. I think that's a fair assessment.
675
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.719
So we're not far removed from Spooky Season, and we're
676
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.000
counting the days down till next year's Spooky season. And
677
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.719
there is a Spooky Season connection to ELF. The filming
678
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.119
in New York was all done in three weeks, and
679
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.679
then some of the indoor sets, like the orphanage, Walter's apartment,
680
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.760
the Grimbles toy department in the jail cell were all
681
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.840
built in an abandoned mental hospital in Vancouver. Oh my, oh,
682
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.320
Now that's not the complete connection to Spooky Season. Where
683
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.000
it lies really is That same hospital is where New
684
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.119
Line shot two thousand and three's Freddy Versus Jason.
685
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.639
Well, how about how another holiday classic?
686
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:36.599
Yeah?
687
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:37.039
Classic?
688
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.199
And a lot of the crew members later described it
689
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.000
as one of the creepiest buildings they had ever worked in.
690
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.719
Yeah I could, Yeah, I don't blame them. Should be
691
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.599
that makes sense? That checks out.
692
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.119
So in fact, Will Ferrell turned down twenty nine million
693
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.400
dollars to do the sequel.
694
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.119
Here we go, let's get into some.
695
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.159
There's there's a lot of like the whys and why
696
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.639
not of why it didn't happen, But Will Ferrell and
697
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.079
John Favreau had frequent disagreements upon the tone of this film.
698
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.840
Ferrell and his frequent collaborator Adam McKay, who we all
699
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:16.159
know from his hit movies, both of whom did uncredited rewrites,
700
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:20.800
wanted a more cynical PG thirteen comedy, but Favreau was
701
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.920
set on wanting a more lighthearted and family friendly version.
702
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.559
Farrell's feelings that he and Favreau didn't work well together
703
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.800
is why the proposed sequel never happened, despite this film
704
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.480
being a massive, huge hit.
705
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.480
So I can definitely see a PG thirteen more cynical
706
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.519
version being a much better film, but probably probably not
707
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:47.320
as successful a film and probably doesn't have the reputation
708
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:51.039
I don't. You might not have people rewatching it every
709
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.119
Christmas without the family aspect of it. So what do
710
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.280
you sacrifice? You know, what's your priority here? I think
711
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:01.559
that's the conversation.
712
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.159
Favreau went towards the money, and it feels like Pharaoh
713
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.199
and McKay were kind of going more for like the
714
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.280
creative Yeah do something yeah, uh, And I agree, I
715
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.079
don't think it would have been a successful I mean
716
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.320
it's kind of like, are you are you going start
717
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:19.760
going down the road of like, you know, bad Santa
718
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:21.880
and stuff You're not getting you're not I.
719
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:22.920
Was gonna be my comparison.
720
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.159
Yeahd Sanna's not getting rewatched every year my families.
721
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.559
No, No, at least I hope.
722
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.559
So I guess the the heart of the question is
723
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:38.280
we're talking about like what could have been. I kind
724
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.159
of lean towards I would have liked to have seen
725
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.119
a better movie, but I'm not the one that has
726
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.880
studio pressure to make money, and I don't have the
727
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.039
ambition and vision of making a holiday classic. I just
728
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.280
like the creative aspect of it, to me is much
729
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:59.320
more interesting and intriguing to say, hey, let's let's try
730
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.280
and make this more. I don't know, like I'm thinking,
731
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.360
like a Larry David influence on a story like this
732
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.400
would be pretty funny, would be pretty cool, and then
733
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.880
I'm probably rewatching it every year, but maybe the families aren't,
734
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.840
and that sort of thing. So I think it's probably
735
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.599
a little more ambitious, and honestly, to put it bluntly,
736
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.920
I think I probably respect that endeavor a lot more
737
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.000
than the approach that Favreau took.
738
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.719
Yeah, but you look at what Favreau does and that's
739
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.920
kind of what that's kind of his ship. Sure, you know, Yeah,
740
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.000
I will say I rather, I would rather have seen
741
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.639
an Elf sequel than some of the other movies Will
742
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:37.440
Ferrell's done.
743
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.719
Yeah, we've talked about that before and there was there
744
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.480
was a big fall off oh with Farrell.
745
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.159
I think we'll get to that, like at the end
746
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.199
when we do our Mount Rushmore question, because I had
747
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:54.119
some difficulty finding four that I really enjoy and like
748
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.400
watching repeatedly when its.
749
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.719
Mine was easy.
750
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.599
Mine was pretty easy to and I think there are
751
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:03.360
four of I would say my favorite comedy films.
752
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.440
Over yeah, so you shut up over there.
753
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:08.519
That's a wrap for this episode.
754
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.119
Do you just not like Will Ferrell? My cash, That's
755
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:11.360
just it.
756
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.760
I'd love Will Ferrell. I just think I liked him
757
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:15.679
more on SNL.
758
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.360
Okay, yeah, and you and I'd like it.
759
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.960
And I think I like him more and supporting roles
760
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.079
than I do as a leading man.
761
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.719
Fair enough, Okay, fair enough. I think I look at
762
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.400
the movies that I listed for my Mount Rushmore and
763
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:33.559
they're all movies where he's amplified by sharing a screen
764
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.840
with something. Yes, yes, So to that point to say,
765
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:37.920
I agree.
766
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.159
Yeah, but you know the success of this film, it
767
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:45.360
got the Broadway treatment. Elf the musical opened on Broadway.
768
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.639
It opened in November of twenty ten, and then three
769
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.599
months later it quickly closed in January of twenty eleven.
770
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.880
So not as successful as the film because of COVID,
771
00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.679
But well, COVID was still nine years away at that. Okay,
772
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.360
oh my god, Yeah, it was definitely because of COVID.
773
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.280
I like you, you're on the point there, you're ready
774
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:08.639
for it?
775
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:09.360
All right.
776
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:11.280
That's when I think I started wearing masks.
777
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.960
Uh. Were they luchador mask or actual? Like you know?
778
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:22.559
It was It was a William Shatner one, Okay, but
779
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.599
it wasn't painted white for Michael Mayer. Was just straight
780
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:26.920
up William Shatner.
781
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:28.639
Mask, straight up Captain Kirk, I got you, yep.
782
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.400
And I would only wear it when I would go
783
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:31.360
grocery shopping.
784
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.679
Well what if what if Captain Kirk played Walter Buddy's dad?
785
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:37.559
How would that go?
786
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.599
Captain Kirk or William Shatner. There are two different people.
787
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.000
There really are not the two different people.
788
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:47.599
Just be honest, No, no, no hard pass No I do.
789
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.239
But you know, we do have some casting we can
790
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:50.760
talk about.
791
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.199
All right, Okay, here we go. Uh.
792
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.119
And this has to do with directors casting all that
793
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.000
good stuff. So the script was originally written in nineteen
794
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.320
ninety three, some ten years before the movie released, and
795
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.639
obviously Will Ferrell was not attached to it at that point,
796
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:13.119
but another SNL alum was Buddy. The Elf was originally
797
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.079
set to star Chris Farley.
798
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.400
I knew it, Yeah, I knew it.
799
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.920
That's interesting. I could have seen it, Yeah.
800
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:26.039
I could. If you're doing it in the nineties and
801
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:30.079
you want someone that balls to the walls, gonna go
802
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:31.800
a little bit, I don't. I don't even know if.
803
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:33.800
But then I think, is it Could it even be
804
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.920
a fame like a like a family movie.
805
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.920
That's yeah.
806
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:41.760
That's the PG thirteen version, the PG Yeah, that's yeah.
807
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:46.599
Because there is like a childlike delivery of Will Ferrell's
808
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.159
Buddy that I don't know.
809
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:49.239
Chris Farley can't.
810
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:51.199
I don't know that Chris Farley could replicate.
811
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.760
That's true. I tell you somebody who I think I
812
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.079
could could have replicated that at that time frame in
813
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.480
the early to mid nineties would have been a young
814
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:02.519
Adam Sandler.
815
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:06.760
Sure, I don't know. I think you run into the
816
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.719
same issue with a lot of the raunchier stuff. But
817
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.440
that was the other name. If not Chris Farley. My
818
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.280
brain did immediately go to Adam Sandler.
819
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.519
I think the character canteen boy. He did, and that
820
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.280
by that character's in a sense kind of to me
821
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.760
lines in with Will Ferrell's version of Buddy.
822
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:31.760
What about Mike Myers. Wouldn't that have been fun? Eddie Murphy?
823
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.920
I love if Mike Myers is Buddy. I wanted Phil
824
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:38.119
Hartman as Walter.
825
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.079
But Phil, no, no, Phil Hartman got jingle all the
826
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:41.559
way later.
827
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:42.719
That's true.
828
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.199
So no, no, no, no, no.
829
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.480
Look, I'm gonna I would have taken Phil Hartman in
830
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:51.880
any movie, in every movie back in the nineties.
831
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.239
What if Arnold Swarzenegger played Buddy?
832
00:43:56.280 --> 00:44:01.679
No, no, okay, I'm not green lighting the rust willis Yes,
833
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:02.719
now we're talking.
834
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:10.920
At the film's premiere, yeah, sorry, go ahead. We we
835
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:12.920
kind of touched on this at the beginning. At the
836
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.199
film's premiere, James conn approached Will and said he felt
837
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.960
Ferrell's performance in the film was over the top, to
838
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.039
over the top in fact, but while they were shooting
839
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.599
the film. But however, when Kahn saw the finished film,
840
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.239
he later said he understood the energy Will needed to
841
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.760
put into his performance, and later praised him saying he
842
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.159
gave a good performance, he gave his flowers, he came around.
843
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.760
Yeah. But there were there were stories about him being
844
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.440
like so annoyed by Will Ferrell on set that they
845
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:44.360
like people would have to keep them apart.
846
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.880
One of the stories I know is when he grabs him, yeah,
847
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.519
by the shirt, and Will Ferrell has said that he's
848
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.400
like I he he puts some force behind it because
849
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.639
he had done something to him right before they shot
850
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.159
that scene, so when he did. But I I think
851
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.599
it's the same way Carrie has talked about Tommy Lee Jones,
852
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.639
is that these guys get off on just pushing their
853
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:08.440
buttons and so and it does it it comes across
854
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.000
and and I know specifically that scene where he thought
855
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.960
like he was going to punch me, he thought he
856
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.360
was really about to take him out.
857
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:17.320
That's crazy.
858
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:23.880
So uh uh. Faison Love, who played the manager of
859
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.639
at Gimbals the retail store, was originally set to be
860
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:33.119
playd by comedian Wanda Sykes. I think that would have
861
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:34.559
been that would have been a good fit for her.
862
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.360
And there's a thing where and I don't know if
863
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.920
that's her character what, but his name tag in the
864
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.239
movie says Debbie says Wanda, I'm sorry.
865
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.920
He purposely, he purposely kept the name tag and assisted
866
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:48.880
on wearing it.
867
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.079
That's what it was. I thought that was funny.
868
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:52.519
That was pretty funny.
869
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:58.440
Yeah, we got uh some brotherly love in this film
870
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.920
when Will Ferrell's brother Patrick plays one of the security
871
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.480
guards when Buddy is being thrown out of the Empire
872
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.360
State Building.
873
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.920
Neither, but that is that is a fun little.
874
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.920
Uh. The lovely Zoey Deschanel was not the first choice
875
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.800
to play Jovi, and we're not even cast at first.
876
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:24.760
We haven't talked about her at all.
877
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:28.239
Except for that creepy moment.
878
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:35.079
Yeah. I don't like her as a blonde, and she's
879
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.599
not a natural blonde. But the reason why she is
880
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.719
a blonde is she had just wrapped production on a
881
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:46.360
film that was never released and still to this day
882
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.880
hasn't been released. And then when she auditioned for the role,
883
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.280
she was a blonde, and the producers and director wanted
884
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.199
her to continue being a blonde because that's what they
885
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:57.119
had originally saw.
886
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.920
Her captivated them at the beginning.
887
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.599
Yuh, But there was another blonde, non blonde rather, that
888
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.760
was first approach for the role of Jovi. And that's
889
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.440
the one the former missus Tom Cruise Katie Holmes.
890
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:15.320
Oh no, thanks, no, thanks, Yeah, I think I think
891
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.840
Zoey Deschanel's charm is part of what makes the role.
892
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.079
Now who could have played her part in nineteen ninety three.
893
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.239
Alicia silversnowe Alsa, I don't think.
894
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.960
God, no, I would never watch that.
895
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:33.000
Joan.
896
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.480
There we go. Now we're talking, and you know you
897
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:37.280
know what she does?
898
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:37.480
Now?
899
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:38.800
No I don't.
900
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.679
She's the stunt double for her brother.
901
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:42.360
Oh, I thought you meant Zoe.
902
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.320
I don't even show what she's only what Joe doing.
903
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.000
Zoe is about to marry one of the property brothers.
904
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.360
Oh yeah, she is with one of them.
905
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:57.639
Wild. Yeah, she's a boat. Okay, she and him. Yes,
906
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:02.239
I've seen them several times live. They're great. So during
907
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.360
during the UH the casting process, o d Chanel was
908
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.039
selected because she could sing. Director John Fabreau even states
909
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.639
on the auto audio commentary to ELF that much more
910
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:18.119
music was added after they heard her singing voice. And
911
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.800
he likes how quirky but dras she is in her performance,
912
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:23.320
something else that Will Ferrell was able to bounce off
913
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.760
of in his performance very well. And I think that's
914
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.519
Will where Will Ferrell's at his best when he has
915
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:31.039
a good dance back.
916
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:32.599
Yep, he's got that ensemble.
917
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:38.719
Yeah, bounce off a bunch of different personalities, bounce.
918
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:41.840
Off exactly, exactly.
919
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:43.320
Yeah.
920
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.039
Well, speaking of James Kahn, he was on a radio
921
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.480
show in Cleveland some years ago talking about Elf and
922
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.400
he's like, we were going to do a sequel, and
923
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.840
I thought, oh my god, I finally got a franchise movie.
924
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.039
I could make some money, let my kids do what
925
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.559
the hell they want to do. And the director and
926
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.039
Will didn't get along very well. So Will wanted to
927
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.719
do it. He didn't want the director, and he had
928
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.039
it in his contract. It was one of those things
929
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:08.760
he says.
930
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.480
Damn, So it was. There was some bad blood there.
931
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.800
They must have really not liked I guess the process
932
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:16.119
of it.
933
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.719
Yeah, I wonder have they collaborated on anything since that
934
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.480
you guys can think of? Off the top, I would say no, Yeah,
935
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.159
it sounds because I mean this sounds like like a
936
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:26.119
twenty year grudge.
937
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.599
Fat Avro jumped in Disney. It ain't been out since.
938
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:33.360
So I ain't sweating Will Ferrell at all. Will Ferrell,
939
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.280
you know, his DJ and at his son's like yeah,
940
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:38.320
fraternity parties.
941
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:42.880
Yeah, and he did another US. He did another Christmas
942
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.199
movie that was dumb.
943
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:46.599
With Ryan Reynolds.
944
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:52.039
Was terrible, terrible movie. He's done a lot, He's done
945
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.960
a lot of questionable stuff in the last Yeah.
946
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.280
Well, you know, him and Adam McKay broke up. Yeah,
947
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.519
and so now him, Will Ferrell and somebody else because
948
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.480
they used to have Gary Sanchez Productions. Now it's Glorious
949
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:09.920
Sanchez Productions. And I know some of it became where
950
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.000
Adam McKay wanted to produce and do these other things,
951
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.760
like kind of starting with like the oh man, I
952
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.880
just the big uh oh gosh, what is that? Where
953
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:26.320
he ended up getting Ryan Gosling, Christian Bale, the stock Yeah,
954
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.239
the Big Short, And so he started kind of, you know,
955
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.960
gearing up towards that stuff. And I think Will Ferrell
956
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.599
didn't want to produce as much as he is Adam McKay.
957
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.920
So I know they broke up. And then there's also
958
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:43.880
supposedly Adam McKay did that winning season. Yeah, the Lakers won,
959
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.199
and apparently Will Ferrell was going to play what John
960
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:47.800
c Riley played, which it's the.
961
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:49.800
Coach, right, Yeah, Phil Jackson, Yeah.
962
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.119
And so anyway, so it seems like it's kind of
963
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:56.800
funny as we kind of go through some of what
964
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.360
I would consider Will Ferrell's best and how like a
965
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.159
lots changed career wise, and just who he collaborates with
966
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:03.800
these days.
967
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.239
Yeah, fair enough, fair to question.
968
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.679
All right, let's get into some casting stuff. James con
969
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.519
was not the original person selected to play the role
970
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:23.320
of Walter, a fake late night television host from the
971
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.440
nineties or maybe even early two thousands as well, was
972
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.400
offered the role at first. He's no longer with Gary.
973
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.719
Gary Shanley turned down the role of Walter.
974
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.679
That's a whole different movie, right there.
975
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
976
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:42.280
I like Gary. I liked him, but yeah, that's a
977
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.199
whole another movie.
978
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.519
When it came to Peter Dinklich's role of Miles, there
979
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.639
was a mountain of a man that was considered originally
980
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.960
for the role before it went to Peter. And that's
981
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.119
your recent Oscar winner, Brandon Fraser.
982
00:51:58.440 --> 00:51:58.840
Thank you.
983
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.760
That that's kind of wild.
984
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.000
That is that's that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
985
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.320
No, No, I don't think it's uh, I don't think
986
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.239
the scene in the boardroom plays out the same way.
987
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.320
No, no, it definitely does not.
988
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:19.400
Then we have some directing uh choices as well. So
989
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.760
before Jon Favreau came on the board, came into the
990
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.760
director's chair, there were several several directors offered the role
991
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.480
that eventually turned it down, one being Terry Swigoff, who
992
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:33.599
I didn't know by name, but he was offered to
993
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:37.039
direct Elf, but turned it down to direct another Christmas
994
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:38.920
movie that year, Bad Santa.
995
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.480
Oh okay, I've.
996
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.760
Never heard so if he would have heard of it, yeah,
997
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.039
I think if he had taken on Elf, we might
998
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.239
have gotten Will Ferrell's version instead to Bet.
999
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.760
Yeah, be a lot of pounded in that if.
1000
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.920
But two other directors that were offered the role that
1001
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:01.840
turned it down would not have had any of the
1002
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.599
pounding in it as well. That's the one Steven Spielberg
1003
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.239
and Ron Howard Howe.
1004
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.159
And is that because he did The Grinch. So they
1005
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.679
were like, here, here's this, here's another Christmas movie you bump.
1006
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:23.679
All right, So we got the roll of Santa Claus. Uh.
1007
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.639
It was offered before eventually went to Ed Asner. Uh.
1008
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:30.280
We been talking about.
1009
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:33.719
Him fucking huh Jesus.
1010
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:38.400
Well instead of picturing him fucking imagine these three actors
1011
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:48.760
trousers are down, James Gardner okay, spooch, Gary Marshall boo
1012
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:51.119
and Steve Bessie.
1013
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:58.599
Oh Steves, Jimmy is he crazy eyes? James Gardner, My god,
1014
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:04.840
I wish, oh, my goodness. He then because he was
1015
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.119
in The Notebook which came out.
1016
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.760
The next year, and then he passed up there. Yeah,
1017
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:10.480
not that Ed.
1018
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:12.920
Spring Chicken.
1019
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:18.039
Yeah, or Bob new or uh, Bob Newhart or Bob Hope,
1020
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:24.639
Bob Newhart, Bob Newhart. Yeah. But my last casting thing
1021
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.719
and really note for the for the film is uh,
1022
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.320
you had some other actors in line to play Walter
1023
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.400
before James conn agreed to play the role. Both of
1024
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:36.920
them are Saturday Night Live alums as well, and pictured
1025
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.440
dan Ackroyd as Buddy's father.
1026
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:47.000
I'm not totally against that. I I think, again, different movie,
1027
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:51.280
but I've I feel like he's he more fits what
1028
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.000
you would imagine, Like how can I put this that
1029
00:54:56.239 --> 00:55:01.840
I would believe that Buddy's dad is dan Ackroyd and
1030
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.239
not like the you know, the macho, tough guy.
1031
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:07.960
I agree with that, but I think it's part of
1032
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:13.920
the machismo that yes, with James Constant, you instantly know
1033
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.119
the line between the two, and.
1034
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.400
I'm I mean, honestly, you look at Kahn's work and
1035
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.719
I'm just thrown out the Godfather because I know that's
1036
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.480
I mean, that sits on one of the highest pedals
1037
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:29.880
of cinema that follows his He has a reputation.
1038
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.719
And that's probably what gets all the dads in on
1039
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:38.519
ELF in two thousands down. Godfather is in it, that's right, Godfather.
1040
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.599
Well, if without picturing Khan or dan Aykroyd, picture this
1041
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:48.639
last SNL alum legend Bill Murray as Walter.
1042
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:50.000
I ain't about it.
1043
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:51.559
Yeah I am.
1044
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:52.719
I'm all for it.
1045
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.360
Yeah, I feel like that's a.
1046
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:01.360
I don't know, space jam. It's too it's too loony.
1047
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:07.599
I honestly, and this is nothing against dan Aykroyd, but
1048
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.360
Bill Murray is more of probably a comedic genius legend. Yes,
1049
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.519
in the eyes of just the movies He's done, absolutely,
1050
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:21.400
and I think Bill Murray would outshine anyone else. Yeah,
1051
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.360
it wouldn't be I feel like Bill Murray would be
1052
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:24.559
the first name on the poster.
1053
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:26.480
Yeah, so fair.
1054
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:30.239
So Yeah, Well that pretty much wraps up all I
1055
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.199
have for ELF, unless you guys got some things add
1056
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:34.920
to it. But what I would like to do. And
1057
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.400
we haven't done this like on every episode because some
1058
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.280
episodes really don't warranted it. But some of the favorite
1059
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.599
quotes from Elf, I've got a few, if you've guys,
1060
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:45.719
got any to chime in with.
1061
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:53.440
I Santa, I know him, Bye buddy, hope you find
1062
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.400
your dad. Yeah, I find myself quoting every holiday season
1063
00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:59.960
that bye buddy. Well buy.
1064
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.760
One of my favorites is you sit on a Throne
1065
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:07.360
of lies.
1066
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.639
Iconic, iconic, iconic.
1067
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.000
And then uh, there's a lot of emphasis on two
1068
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:17.159
words in this one. But son of a Nutcracker had
1069
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.960
one eye. Yeah, that's a great one. And the one
1070
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.159
I use a lot because I'm such a dog person
1071
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.320
and I volunteer for a dog rescue group here in
1072
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.159
Memphis as good news, I saw a dog today.
1073
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:35.119
That's that's a good one. Brandon, You're you're really struggling
1074
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:35.960
over here, I can see.
1075
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.920
That's most of That's most of mine. I'm I like
1076
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.199
the like Santons screaming, and then the bye Buddy. That's
1077
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.639
probably my favorite one. Yeah, I like that one, and
1078
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.880
of course the the back and forth between Farrell and
1079
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:56.760
Peter Dinklidge. Oh he's an angry yelh say it one
1080
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:59.159
more time. Oh he's an Yeah.
1081
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:03.760
I do feel like this is a highly quotable film.
1082
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.199
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
1083
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.519
Which I think a lot of Will Ferrell movies are
1084
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:11.639
sure that's true.
1085
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:13.880
The early years, Yeah, the ones that were good that
1086
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.000
people actually watched.
1087
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:16.079
Yeah.
1088
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.960
And and and with that said, let's dive into our
1089
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.800
our wrap up question. Here are our mount rushmore of
1090
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.519
Will Ferrell movies. Who wants to take it?
1091
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:28.960
It's easy. It's easier for me. I go Old School, Anchorman,
1092
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.639
Step Brothers and the other guys. And it's not even
1093
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.440
really close for me as far as that fifth one.
1094
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.920
I mean, I like Talladega Knights and semi Pro, but
1095
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:40.920
you get to a point with his filmography where a
1096
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:42.800
lot of the stuff is the same and just a
1097
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:43.840
different costume.
1098
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:48.400
Yep, mine was tough only because of the last the
1099
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:55.199
last one. But I would probably switch out, and I
1100
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:58.480
guess it's mainly because I'm thinking of like headlining Will Ferrell.
1101
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.719
I would probably switch out Old School for Talladega Knights,
1102
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.239
but I would still do Anchorman, Step Brothers and the
1103
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:09.079
other guys. Those would be my four And honestly, if
1104
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:14.960
I could, I actually quite enjoyed him, and uh, Emma
1105
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.719
Thompson and Dustin Hoffman and stranger.
1106
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:19.199
Fiction, stranger than fiction.
1107
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:20.519
Strange, I'm sorry, stranger than fiction.
1108
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:24.199
You're right, but which we thought at the school, He's
1109
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:25.400
gonna he's gonna.
1110
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.119
Turn, and he did Everything Must Go? Which is a
1111
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:29.440
good little movie.
1112
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:31.880
Is that the one with Julia Dreyfus.
1113
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.039
It might be, but I think it's like where he's
1114
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:37.519
like selling stuff on his lawn.
1115
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:43.639
Oh no, no, Julia Lewis, Oh no, that movie is horrible.
1116
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.840
Yeah, well there's a the original one is better and
1117
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:51.960
it's actually not a comedy at all. Well say, some
1118
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.920
would say this one wasn't either, but yeah, no, those
1119
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:56.239
would be my four too.
1120
00:59:56.599 --> 01:00:00.719
Yeah, my four are are quite different. I got to
1121
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.239
old school Talladega Knights, I think are my two favorite
1122
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:07.599
of his at all. I really never enjoyed Anchorman or
1123
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:10.679
step Brothers, so I'm out on both of them. So
1124
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:16.840
I went Superstar, and then instead of the other guys,
1125
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:20.280
I went a different mock Wahlberg movie, and I went
1126
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.760
with Daddy's Home as my fourth.
1127
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:27.039
Hmm. I think the way you feel about telling about
1128
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:29.800
step Brothers and Anchorman is how I feel about.
1129
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.800
Do have a controversial opinion here. I think Daddy's Home
1130
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.239
two is a better Will Ferrell Christmas movie than ELF.
1131
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:43.000
I I like Daddy's Home two. Daddy's Home the first one,
1132
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:44.000
I thought it was fine.
1133
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:46.960
It's fine. But I'm gonna tell you John Lithgow and
1134
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:51.559
Mel Gibson being the dads that Thermostat joke is real.
1135
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.719
It's a real thing, and that made me. It made
1136
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:55.599
me really laugh.
1137
01:00:55.719 --> 01:01:00.360
But to me, Daddy's Home two, I watch watch that
1138
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.440
more eagerly than I watch else.
1139
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:08.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. But Superstar God, I don't
1140
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:09.800
think I've seen that in a long time. I thought
1141
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:11.400
somebody was gonna say Zoolander.
1142
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.239
No, I thought somebody might say Barbie.
1143
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.079
I thought about it. Yeah, is bigger than you would
1144
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:23.800
think in that movie. Uh, but I just couldn't pull
1145
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:24.760
the trigger on Barbie.
1146
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:25.519
Yeah.
1147
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:27.840
I love Barbie. But I guess my thinking is like,
1148
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.320
that's not a wolf, like anybody could have played. Will
1149
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:33.239
Ferrell's probably been fine. Just like Lego movie, I don't
1150
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:36.199
really need. I don't need Will Ferrell in those.
1151
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:40.400
I mean, I'm like, literally, well, you know what.
1152
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:43.360
The campaign was good, it was funny, but then that
1153
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:46.880
wasn't even kind of mediocre but semi pro Blades of Glory.
1154
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.960
They were all just I don't know, it just seemed
1155
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.599
like it was starting to become the same old thing.
1156
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:54.960
It was one outlandish character set in a different sport,
1157
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:57.320
and that's what we did.
1158
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:01.440
And then like I don't know, like he goes on
1159
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:09.480
that run after after the campaign where it's Watson Holmes,
1160
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:10.960
he does like, oh.
1161
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.360
Yeah, that got crapped on. That was one of the
1162
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.119
last movies I think he was in in theaters.
1163
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:19.159
Get Hard was like the same old Will Ferrell. The House.
1164
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:20.440
No one saw that.
1165
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:22.800
No one saw that, and then he did do Holmes
1166
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.280
and Watson like that's a run of some pretty.
1167
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:28.880
Those were big flops and that's why he didn't He
1168
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.679
didn't really do anything.
1169
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.599
I did like Eurovision Song Contests.
1170
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:35.800
I never saw that one.
1171
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.679
I kind of lean more towards with Rachel McAdams and
1172
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.239
Dan Stevens than Will Ferrell. But yeah, it's not bad.
1173
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:44.719
I will tell you one if if I could put
1174
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:46.800
it up there, it would be if it was a
1175
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:52.480
TV the one that he's in with Paul Wood, I
1176
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.119
would that would be up there.
1177
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.599
What is that called drink next Door?
1178
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:57.519
Yeah?
1179
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.199
Yeah, yeah, I would put I would put that up there.
1180
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:03.159
I think that might be his best I.
1181
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:04.440
Think it's one of his I think it's some of
1182
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.360
his best work as far as like acting, just acting
1183
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:11.400
in general. Yeah, I totally agree by the way him
1184
01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:15.440
and they're both tremendous in that. If you haven't seen it,
1185
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:16.400
I think it's Apple.
1186
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:18.440
Yeah, it was Apple.
1187
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:21.079
Paul Rudd can do no wrong. But one movie I
1188
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.039
completely overlooked that I might have included was Get Hard
1189
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:25.840
with him and Kevin Hart.
1190
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.840
I didn't think Get Hard was bad, but I felt
1191
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.440
like we got to a point in Will Ferrell's career
1192
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.360
where it was like he couldn't get away from all
1193
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.639
the silly shtick stuff. And I felt like that was
1194
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:44.199
about the time period for me when I started to say, like, Okay,
1195
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.440
we're kinda I kind of want to see him do
1196
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.559
some different stuff. And I mean, I don't know, we've
1197
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:53.119
talked about Will Ferrell being kind of an interesting case
1198
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:57.679
study in the past before, where like these comedic actors
1199
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.599
that try to branch off and do other things, it
1200
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:05.119
never really worked for him, And then I think the
1201
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:07.920
bit kind of wore on people a little bit, and
1202
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.880
he kind of got to this point where I think.
1203
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:14.199
I don't know if audiences were fatigued or if they
1204
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.920
just came to expect, like, oh, another Will Ferrell movie,
1205
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:22.119
this time he's in prison with Kevin Hart, Like, well,
1206
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.920
they didn't go see it, and it just didn't feel
1207
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.440
like he was trying to push the boundary and do
1208
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:29.039
anything new.
1209
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.400
I still haven't seen Holmes in Watson in the House.
1210
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:33.920
Oh I paid to see that in a damn theater
1211
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.320
which one Holmes and Watson.
1212
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.280
Oh man, And it came out during Christmas, and.
1213
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.679
What I've never been so angry at a film.
1214
01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:47.320
Yeah, but I did. I did enjoy get hard for
1215
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:48.920
for what it was. It just to me kind of
1216
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.000
felt like, oh, you put this in the in the
1217
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:52.639
box with all the other movies right.
1218
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.000
Well, and you notice there's a certain point where he's
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01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:58.760
not headlining anymore. He's either sharing it with like Kevin Hart,
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who I mean, you know he's another guy.
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Well at the time Kevin Hart was he was.
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No, no, yeah he was, and a lot of people still.
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I mean, he's still very much popular, but like Spirited,
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it's him and Ryan Reynolds. Well, obviously Ryan Reynolds is
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probably the bigger star of these days. Yeah, so, you know,
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but that's the thing, and that's why I think The
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Street next Door is what I thought Will Ferrell like,
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clearly he's capable of it, but he's not. I mean,
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he's also producing his own stuff, so he's also picking
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this shit.
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I mean, he's got a credit on Succession.
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Yeah, so, I mean, I maybe he is just trying
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to get away from some of it and does others,
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but I know he is. I mean, he's still making stuff.
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But you know, he shows up in Barbie and it's
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fine and it's kind of fun that he's in it,
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but you know it's not. I mean, it's it's like
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with everybody else. When's the last time an Adam Sandler
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movie came out in theaters? When's the last time a
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Will Ferrell movie actually came out in theater?
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I mean, well last year with Strays.
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Oh yeah, you didn't see him, You didn't see but yeah,
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that's true.
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He's also in Quiz Lady. I never watched Quiz Lady,
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but I think.
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Oh, yeah, that's on Hulu. It had Sandra O and Aquafina. Yeah, yeah,
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that was okay.
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I'm curious to see how this documentary that Will and
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Harper that we got to see. I'm curious to see
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01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.079
what we think of the film. Yeah, we got to
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see at the Nashville Film Festival in September. Curious to
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see where that goes.
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Yeah, I am. I mean, I you know, I think
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he is a smart guy in the fact that it's
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01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.960
anybody that can that kind of just doesn't put all
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their eggs in one basket about this is what I'm
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01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:42.840
gonna do. I'm gonna act, I'm gonna do these movies
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and no one's ever gonna get tired of it. The
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01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.440
fact he's produced his stuff and it's not just his
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own stuff. Yeah, I think is a is a smart choice.
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Yeah, for sure, I would agree.
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01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:58.639
It'll keep his career going and still get some parts.
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01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.960
But you know, we're not going to ever get that
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Anchorman's step Brothers, Talladega Knights, We're not going to get
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01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:05.400
that again.
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I feel like he had a run of a few
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years where he was just in my opinion.
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01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.280
It was a big deal on top of the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I agree.
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And you only have doesn't have the fastball anymore. I
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think those things, you know, it is kind of similar
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01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.599
to like an aging pitcher or an aging like Athlete
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01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:27.280
where it's just not the same oop.
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01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.159
But you know, I kind of feel like like growing
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up like Jim Carrey, Sandler and stuff. They all it
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01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:34.239
happens to them all.
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01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:34.880
Yeah.
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I think a great part of that is the audience
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you do those movies with grow over time and kind
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01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:45.280
of mature where they don't really want.
1281
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:47.519
The same point fair point right.
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01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.800
Yeah, that's true because during his heyday we were high
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01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:55.000
school college Yeah, perfect, perfect Will Ferrell humor.
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01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:56.760
We were the target demo.
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01:07:57.039 --> 01:07:59.320
Yep, boy did he get us?
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01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:01.599
Got it's good.
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01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.000
And you got my cash too, even Holmes and Watson
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01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:04.440
brought him.
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01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:09.039
Yeah. Just remember if you're not first your last, shake
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01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.159
it back, shake it. And I think that's a good
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01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.519
a good segue to get out of here. So we
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got some. We got presence of still wrap to put
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under the tree. Uh and then doing so, Please check
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01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.479
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01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:28.920
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01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.319
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01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:33.479
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soon that you would like us discuss.
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Hey, yeah, I'll say this. We haven't done a Tom
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Cruise movie yet. We've we've talked about Collateral next year
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two thousand and four is Collateral.
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01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:49.319
Oh yes, yes, the Arnold Schwarzenegger classic Christmas.
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01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:52.960
That's a callback. Now that is a deep and I
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01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:56.520
know that one. Yeah, Drinking with listeners So yeah that
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and Brandon, you weren't even on that episode exactly.
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Boy did I dodge a bullet?
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Yep?
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Uh. Before we get out of here, Stody Brandon, Telly's
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fine folks. How they can find you on the internet.
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At Stony Keeley on Twitter, at Sobros Network on all
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And at Sir Brandon V on Twitter, Sir Brandon on Letterboxed, and.
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You can find me on Twitter at MC underscore Cast
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seventy five and cheers to another episode of Drinking With
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where we've explored the films that have come of age
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just like a fine wine. As we raise our glasses
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01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.560
to movies turning twenty one, we've laughed, reminisced, and maybe
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01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.439
shed a tear two over the timeless classics. So until
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next time, mayor drinks be cold. Your conversation is lively
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and your movie night's unforgettable. Get that bearskin rug out,
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01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:47.159
and get the fucking drink.
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Responsive James constyle.
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Yep, drink responsibly. Remember age is just a number, but
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great films or forever. We'll see you next time, because
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I have to return some videotapes