Couple Gets Pulled Over In The Middle Of Transporting A Rotting Body

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Hey, what's up, man? You got your license on you, ma'am? Okay.
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That's all right. We'll go ahead and try your luck.
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All right. Good luck.
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This New Mexico patrol cop is in the middle of
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a seemingly routine traffic stop. He has no idea that
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the people he pulled over were just allegedly disposing of
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human remains in the mountains nearby.
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You ain't making no sense, dude. Get out! We're going
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to get tailed!
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In a moment of silence, please bow your head. My
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husband's brother is missing. He's been missing since the 30th.
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As the president of the Albuquerque City Council publicly prays
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for her missing brother-in-law, police are already deep into the investigation.
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Every witness keeps pointing them towards more suspects, and every
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lead they uncover seems to expose another piece of a
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multi-county cover-up carried out by someone determined to get away
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with murder. An outcome that will prove very real as
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detectives will slowly come to realize.
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Is all that dark?
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I think it's all blood. Oh, shit. I'd watch out
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for him.
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I'll be real, I'd watch out for him.
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Does that look like blood to you?
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Yeah, it is blood.
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We won't need recovery.
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We're a search rescue.
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He's a good guy and you let him throw him
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on the side of a mountain like he's.
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A piece of trash?
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Everything starts earlier this year at the Cantina Bar in
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the small town of Mountain Air, where locals often come
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to unwind after a long day of work.
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For the next.
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Few hours, everything appears to be going well.
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But for these two friends, what seems like an ordinary
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night out would end with one of them never making
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it home.
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This is Deputy Shackle from the Torrance County Sheriff's Office.
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Albert Pena, is this the name of the guy that
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you're reporting?
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Yeah, and he was last seen at the Willard Cantina.
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One of my friends in Mountaineer, her friend's the bartender there,
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and she was talking to him, and the last time
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she said she'd seen him was about 7 or 8
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at the bar. And he was talking to a Mexican
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gentleman there, and they didn't know who he was. That
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was the last time he was seen with anybody.
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Do you have any idea who the Hispanic male could
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have been?
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Well, right now I have my friend. She thinks somebody
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might know who he is or the girlfriend of that guy.
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So she's trying to find that out for me.
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On the line is Frankie, reporting that his older brother,
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67-year-old Albert Pena, hasn't been seen or heard from for
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several days. And to this Torrance County officer, the call
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feels all too familiar, given the recent mysterious disappearances surrounding Mountaineer.
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Just a few years ago, a 28-year-old man suddenly vanished
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and still hasn't been found. On top of that, Mountaineer
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even has unsettling ties to infamous serial killers and a
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crime rate unusually high for a town of less than 1,000 people.
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But Albert's disappearance wouldn't remain a small-town mystery for long,
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as an unexpected political connection would soon pull the case
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into a much bigger spotlight. For now, though, the deputy
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has a much simpler task. Figure out where Albert was
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last seen. That leads him 15 miles to the Cantina Bar.
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Once inside, he's greeted by Rebecca, the bartender working the
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night Albert disappeared. And she's about to give investigators the
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first in a series of leads that would kickstart a weeks-long,
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high-stakes manhunt.
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What do you know?
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Oh, yeah.
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We're working on the case involving Albert.
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Yeah.
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Um... And Albert was here the other night.
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Yes.
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Um, do you know Albert?
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I know of him. Okay.
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Yes.
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Where do you know? Do you know him from here?
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Okay. He was, he was here the other night with
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a young man.
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Yes.
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Do you know who that is?
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His name is Mose, Moses, uh, Moses or something like that.
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Okay.
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Lopez.
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How do you know him?
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I know him through his girlfriend.
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And who is his girlfriend?
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Jaylene.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Uh, and so, and I've been by Jaylene's house twice
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and the door looks like it's been barricaded up a
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little bit and, uh, The frame on the door where
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the window is is busted and cracked like.
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Somebody's broken into it. When I knocked on the door,
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I can hear the chihuahuas on the inside, and the
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door is loose enough that you could push it open.
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Okay, that's abnormal.
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It's very weird.
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It's always hard to tell with the video, but were
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they getting along okay?
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They were fine.
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They were perfectly fine.
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All right.
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It's just I've never seen him with Albert before.
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When I talked to another friend of mine and mentioned
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his name, he was like if he did something to Albert.
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So everybody's got this weird feeling about this guy already.
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But this is just not working.
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It's just Albert's got a lot of nice stuff, like
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his bikes and stuff. I know that's what I'm worried about.
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Thanks to Rebecca, detectives not only have their first lead,
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Moises Lopez, and his girlfriend, Jaylene, but also a potential
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financial motive for why someone may have wanted to harm Albert.
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After speaking with the bartender, the deputy returns to the
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station to run some background checks, where he'll quickly discover
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just how much danger Albert might be in. Moises Lopez
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is a convicted felon currently on parole, with an active
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warrant already out for his arrest. His record includes robbery
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and embezzlement, giving police more than enough legal grounds to
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take him into custody. Within hours of this discovery, officers
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secure a warrant to search his house and rush over.
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Leading the case is Detective Lieutenant Kent Ballard, a veteran
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investigator with more than 15 years of service under his belt,
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and his intuition tells him... this wouldn't be as easy
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as it seems. Once Ballard and the other officers arrive,
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they draw their guns and prepare to move in.
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Occupants of 410 North Corbin, this is the Torrance County
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Sheriff's Office.
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We have a search warrant.
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For the residents.
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Exit through the east side door with your hands up, open.
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And empty.
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Sheriff's Office, you're inside. Make yourself known.
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Woof!
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Woof!
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Woof!
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Hey, we're open.
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Lawrence County Sheriff's Office. If you're inside, make yourself known.
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Crow, I don't even know where to start searching.
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We're just going.
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To have to look for obvious signs of blood.
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Yes, sir.
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Inside, neither Moises nor his girlfriend Jaylene are anywhere to
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be found.
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While officers continue searching through the clutter, the bartender, Rebecca, arrives,
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wanting to check on the dogs left behind.
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However, she's about to point out something strange that will
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double the number of suspects officers need to find.
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Go out.
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Go out to Rebecca.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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No, buddy, you've got to go outside. You can't be
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in here. No one's taking care of you.
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This poor thing is probably not eight.
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No, I'm sure of it.
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Come here, baby.
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Here, you're okay. You're okay, sweetie. Why would they leave
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those dogs?
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Man, I'm telling you, that's a piece of shit.
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Because dogs have been.
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What vehicle is missing?
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None.
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So how did they get around? How could they possibly
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have gotten around?
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They walked.
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Did you see how it was all barricaded and stuff
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from the outside? Well, and somebody's kicked that other door in.
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Oh, wow.
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But I can't tell.
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Is this the way the.
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House always was?
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Always.
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So it was always thrashed?
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Always.
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So now I don't know. Like, it's hard to tell
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whether something happened or missing or what.
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I have no idea. Okay.
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It's disgusting though.
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I appreciate you coming.
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No problem.
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Rebecca just revealed an interesting detail. instead relying on getting
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rides from others. To Detective Ballard, this strongly suggests someone
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may be helping Moises evade police. But even then, investigators
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are yet to realize the uphill battle they're facing as
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they're about to encounter more suspects and slowly uncover one
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body dump after another.
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Dude, the things they asked for was weird. It's freaking
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us out.
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We're freaked out, so... Yeah, it is blood.
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After clearing the house, Detective Ballard orders several officers to
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remain positioned outside while he tries calling the couple's phones,
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but each call goes straight to voicemail. He then heads
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back to the station where, to his surprise, one of
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them finally calls back, ready to mislead the detective and
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get him off their backs.
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Hello?
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Hello, is Jaylene there?
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Yes, yes, it is.
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Hi, ma'am.
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It's Lieutenant Ballard with the Sheriff's Office. Thank you very
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much for calling me back.
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No, no problem.
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I've been out of town, so.
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I didn't know what the hell.
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Was going on.
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Yeah, let me explain what's going on and all. I'm
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working on a missing persons case involving an Albert Pena.
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Do you know Albert?
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Yes, I do.
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Okay.
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When is the last time you saw Albert?
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Maybe like three days before New Year's Eve, walking by
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his house.
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Are you guys friendly or just acquaintances?
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Well, I know him since I worked at the gas station.
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Okay.
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Because when you work.
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At the gas station, you know everybody.
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Sure.
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And then he met my boyfriend.
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Okay.
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As detectives suspected, the.
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Couple is out of town.
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But what surprises Ballard is just how calm Jaylene seems
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about the entire situation. Even if she had nothing to
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do with Albert's disappearance, she's still traveling with a convicted
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felon who's quickly becoming the focus of the investigation. But
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Detective Ballard needs to play it safe. Otherwise, he'll spook
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the couple and lose his only chance to pin down
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Moises' location.
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Is Moises with you now?
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Yes. Would you like to talk to him?
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That would be great.
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Okay.
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We're in touch.
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Thanks.
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Hello?
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Hello. Is this Moises?
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Yes, sir.
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I appreciate it. I'm working on a missing persons case.
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Do you know a person by the name of Albert Pena?
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Yes, I do, sir.
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Okay.
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How do you know Albert?
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Well, we were walking home from a store one day,
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and we were walking down the street, and he kind
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of like started talking to us, and that's how we met,
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you know?
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Yeah, we became friends after that.
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When is the last time you saw him? He's missing,
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and we're trying to locate him.
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Two, three days ago, I think, or I'm not sure.
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We went to the bar, me and him, and.
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Then he said he was going.
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To Albuquerque or go party or something.
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So that's why he told me.
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We headed home.
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He dropped me off, and then he took off.
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And you said that you and Albert went to the bar.
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Where did you guys go?
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I ate some chips, played a little pool, and then
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we had an argument with some dude there.
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So then they kind of like told us we had
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to leave.
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That's kind of important to me. Who did he get
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into an argument with?
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Honestly, I don't know who these people were.
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Like I said, that's the first time I ever went
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to there.
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And he left.
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Hopefully he's okay. I don't understand what's going on.
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I don't either.
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His family's very concerned about him.
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After this strange call, Detective Ballard immediately looks into this
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unidentified man Albert allegedly got into an argument with. But
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when he reviews the CCTV, the footage tells a very
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different story. At 5.45pm, Albert and Moises walk into the bar.
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For the next few hours, cameras capture the two laughing, drinking,
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and playing pool before they leave together in Albert's Chevrolet Trailblazer,
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with no argument ever taking place. To Ballard, the footage
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gives him reason to seriously question Moises' version of events.
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With night approaching, Ballard continues digging deeper into Moises and Jaylene.
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All the while, the case is less than 12 hours
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away from a discovery the town of Mountaineer isn't prepared for.
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The next morning, with the search for Albert reaching statewide attention,
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a patrolling officer just outside Mountaineer spots an abandoned SUV
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off a dirt road. Unbeknownst to this officer, he's about
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to stumble upon one of investigators' first solid clues to
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finding Albert.
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220 Dispatch, if you would get a hold of the
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55 and have him stop right there.
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All right, there's nobody inside of it. There's a lot
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of trash dump out here.
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I'm not gonna go any further.
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I drove through the weeds, because there's good tire prints
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coming and going that do not match this vehicle.
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After examining the SUV, the officer confirms it's Albert's Chevrolet Trailblazer,
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the same vehicle he was last seen in. But so far,
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he finds nothing clearly suggesting foul play. The officer then
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relays this discovery to Detective Ballard, who makes his way
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to the scene, expecting it might provide a new lead.
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But once Ballard arrives at the scene, it wouldn't take
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long before he spots something that would leave him genuinely horrified.
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And we're going to have to check the vehicle good
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because I think John checked the window. The seat's leaned
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way back. I'm going to pop it.
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Hat.
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Can't see the back. Oh, there's blood. All over the...
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a ton of it. Is it all that dark?
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I think it's all blood.
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So here's the thing. There wouldn't be blood outside the
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car unless they took him out of the car.
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Upon discovering a large pool of blood alongside a single shoe,
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Ballard realizes the dark direction this investigation is heading. Shortly afterward,
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Torrance County detectives processed the car for fingerprints before towing
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it away for further analysis. But strangely, investigators' next major
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breakthrough won't come from the car at all. Instead, the
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case is about to take an unexpected detour more than
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100 miles south, where another couple would soon be accused
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of something horrific.
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On the line is Ashley.
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Claiming a couple had returned some tools with what appeared
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to be blood on them. Moments after the call, Otero
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County Dispatch sends an officer to speak with Ashley, who's
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already waiting outside with even more disturbing details about what
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she just discovered.
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The beginning. Okay, so I had a friend.
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Izzy, that's enough.
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So.
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I had a friend, well, it's their friend, my sister's friend.
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Okay.
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And she had gotten sober, so we were letting her
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come up and my sister drank, so they were smoking
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and drinking in the shop most of the time. Anyways,
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so yesterday at a brand, and this isn't the first time,
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the first time she pulled up and she was all
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twacked out and they were like, we're going to sit
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in your driveway at 12 o'clock in the middle of
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the night.
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Okay.
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And we're like, that's not cool.
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Anyways, we don't do that up here.
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So then she comes back, or she comes yesterday, and
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she's like, hey, can I borrow some tools? And she's
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like this.
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Like, you could tell.
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Like, her eyes are all big and stuff.
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And who's this friend?
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Katie Landrum.
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Katie C-K-A-T-H-Y?
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No, K-A-B-Y.
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Megan, I need your information for Katie. Train tall. Is
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that blood?
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So there, there, and there's one.
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More spot there.
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It goes up.
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Okay.
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Does that look like blood to you?
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I mean.
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It's freaking us out. We're freaked out, so.
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Yeah, it is blood.
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And I was thinking about the tools that they were
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trying to take.
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And they were trying to get a shovel.
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And I'm like, dude, that's crazy to me.
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It's crazy.
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I mean, it's... Yeah.
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You guys are saying it's for wood. I mean, why
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would you guys need a shovel for wood?
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I mean, I.
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Why would there be blood on my... I mean, someone
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could have got hurt. Someone could have cut themselves.
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But.
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The shovel and the axe.
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I mean, the shovel, I don't see why you need
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a shovel for wood.
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After seeing it for himself, the deputy calls in a
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forensic team to seize the tools and send them to
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a lab, while he and other Otero County detectives begin
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looking into the couple who borrowed them. By now, two
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couples in two different counties are on investigators' radar, with
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both departments still oblivious to just how closely their cases
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are connected. The next morning, still in Otero County, the
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deputy who took Ashley's statement follows up on her lead
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using the workplace information she provided to track Katie and
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Manuel to the dog shelter where they work. As the
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deputy waits for the couple to emerge, this seemingly isolated
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lead is about to open the door to an entirely
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different case.
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How are you doing?
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I'm Deputy Velasquez, Otero County Sheriff's Office.
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I'm looking for Katie.
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Katie, okay.
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Can I ask you some quick questions?
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Sure.
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Alright.
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If you want to be in prison or you want
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him to be.
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Okay.
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So, some Christians were brought up since you did borrow
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tools from Ashley. You borrowed a dolly, an axe, and
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a hand saw tool?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So, the Christians were brought up that there was blood
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on a dolly. Can you explain that to me? Yeah.
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One of us got caught working.
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Okay.
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Who got caught working?
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One of our friends, I guess.
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One of your friends? And where were you guys at?
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If you don't mind me asking. Are you Manuel Lopez?
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Yes, sir. Okay.
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So I did speak with her yesterday, and she doesn't
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want to trust me from their property also.
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Okay.
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I'm just letting you guys know verbally that she doesn't
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want you there on the property. And I will speak
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with her, see if I could see where the heck
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Sato was at but just the concerns are is that
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they were but on the dolly she was concerned.
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Because of that.
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Okay alright well I appreciate you for talking to me
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and speaking with me guys alright I wish.
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You would have spoke to me it's crazy my best.
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Friend my whole life is gone Well, I'm not sure
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what's going on with that. I'm just here to do
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my job, okay.
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And investigate.
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All right, Ms. Katie?
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Yes, sir.
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All right, Mr.
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Lopez?
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Yes, sir.
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All right, well, you guys have a safe day, okay?
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You too.
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All right, bye.
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Knowing just how much blood was on those tools, the
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deputy finds Katie's explanation about a minor accident difficult to believe.
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So he calls Ashley back, who puts him in contact
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with the two people who knew Katie better than anyone,
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her father and daughter. That afternoon, the deputy arranges to
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meet with them. But once he arrives, Katie's daughter is
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about to reveal something so disturbing that it would change
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the trajectory of her mother's life forever.
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How you doing, Sabelo?
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I'm Deputy Velasquez.
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So I'm here because I was told by Megan, you
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might know where your mom been at, And where she's
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been hanging out. Because they told me that she was
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up in the mountains somewhere, cutting wood. Me trying to
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figure out what exact location she was at or a
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rough estimate where she was at.
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I would tell you, but I really don't. Because their
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phone likes to turn their server off or whatever. So
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on Live360, I can show you. It won't let me
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look at it. It says their phone's off or their
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server's off. I don't even know why she's cutting wood.
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I've never... seen her cut wood. They don't have fireplaces.
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Yeah, they don't have fireplaces.
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There's a big one. They live in a trailer.
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Outside of the house.
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Because it says yesterday, but it also says there's no
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network or phone off.
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So, I mean, we're just trying to figure out where
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your mom was at because she did borrow some tools
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and the tools.
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Did have blood on it.
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Oh.
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It was a dolly. What manual one?
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Lopez.
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Lopez.
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Yeah. That's her husband. That's not her friend.
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Oh, that's the husband.
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Yeah, she's married.
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Yeah, they're fighting it out 24-7.
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I don't know what the hell they do.
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Okay. I'd watch out for him.
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If I'm going to be real, I'd watch out for him.
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I'm thinking... Yeah, I'm with you.
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I'm thinking, okay, they're cutting wood because it's getting colder now, right?
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Yeah.
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But now you guys have seen that.
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They don't have that.
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I just say watch out for them lying because she
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loves to lie. She's the best liar in the world.
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And I'll take your word because that is your.
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Mom and you know her more than anybody else.
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Okay.
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I understand.
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Instead of defending Katie, her own father and daughter described
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both her and Manuel as dishonest. With this in mind,
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the deputy wraps up the interview and heads back to
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the station, now even more suspicious of Katie's story.
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Meanwhile.
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Just as detectives over in Torrance County begin running out
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of leads, they have no idea that a crucial piece
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of the mystery is hidden in an underground bunker just
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a few miles away waiting to be found. As the
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days pass, Albert's disappearance begins drawing more attention across New Mexico.
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And with no end in sight, the president of the
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Albuquerque City Council, Albert's sister-in-law, decides to make a public plea,
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one that would finally push the case forward.
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If everybody can just do me a great favor in
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a moment of silence, please bow your head. My husband's
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brother is missing. He's been missing since the 30th, and
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we don't know. So some of you may have received
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an Amber Alert, but if you could just please say
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a quick prayer for his safe return.
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While Clarissa's speech draws an overwhelming wave of support from
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the community, detectives finally obtain Albert's cell phone records. And
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for the first time, investigators have a shot at retracing
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Albert's exact movements on the night he disappeared. After leaving
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the Cantina Bar on December 30th, Albert's phone travels to
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none other than Moises and Jaylene's house. From there, it
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eventually ends up near the dirt road where Albert's car
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was found. But interestingly, for several hours in between, the
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phone pings at a nearby abandoned property investigators have yet
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to search. With this new lead, officers drive to the
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property to investigate, where something disturbing is sitting undiscovered. beneath
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the ground.
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Sheriff's office!
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Sheriff's office!
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Torrance County Sheriff's Office, if you're in here, make yourself known.
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I have a.
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Short room right there to the right in the middle
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of that building.
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Okay.
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Okay, I'm going to check just to make sure I
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didn't clear the hallway.
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Yeah.
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No.
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No.
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Well, I guess now all we can do is follow
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up with a flare impression and see.
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So, we have here, under the dirt, on top there, there,
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and then there's some splatter there.
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And then when you look in here, all along the concrete,
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there's rips.
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I'm going to the bottom.
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It doesn't look right to me.
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00:26:05.849 --> 00:26:07.700
That definitely looks like a blood drip, but it's been
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there a long time.
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I mean, he's been missing since the 30th.
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As officers investigate the bunker, they can see signs suggesting
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Albert was kept here for some time, but whatever happened,
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police appear to have arrived too late. Albert is gone,
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seemingly moved somewhere else before officers ever reached the property. Still,
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investigators swab the area and send everything they find to
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the lab, hoping whatever happened here might finally point them
555
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in the right direction. And while Ballard and his team
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secure the scene, they have no idea the effort to
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conceal what happened to Albert has already stretched nearly 150
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miles south, where someone is carrying out a cover-up operation.
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Of their own.
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As night falls over the Sacramento mountains, someone is preparing
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to move Albert to another dump site. After removing Albert's
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body from the bunker, he drives deep into the mountains,
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eventually reaching a remote stretch of West Side Road, where
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Albert is left somewhere down the hillside. A few hours
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into the night, an Otero County patrol officer working his
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shift spots a car with what appears to be a
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damaged tag light. He pulls it over, expecting nothing more
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Don't go down there. All right, open the door. Hi,
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what's up, man? You got your license on you, ma'am? Okay,
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that's all right. You got your license on you, man?
594
00:29:18.329 --> 00:29:23.009
How's y'all's night going? Good. Where y'all heading? Try your luck?
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00:29:23.809 --> 00:29:27.950
All right, good luck. It's a joke, right? That's what
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00:29:27.990 --> 00:29:30.829
everybody says. Is this your vehicle? Do you have insurance
597
00:29:30.849 --> 00:29:31.589
or registration?
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00:29:31.730 --> 00:29:31.890
Yes.
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Oh, grab it out of there if you don't mind
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for me, sir.
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How you doing?
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You guys got IDs? Huh? What? Not on you? What
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00:29:44.809 --> 00:29:45.210
about you?
604
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.809
Sounds good so the reason i'm stopping you uh you
605
00:29:50.829 --> 00:29:53.119
failed to maintain the lane of travel and then which
606
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:55.569
basically means your tires left the went over the lines
607
00:29:55.849 --> 00:29:57.329
no big deal i'm not gonna write you a ticket
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00:29:57.549 --> 00:29:59.230
and then your tag light looks like it has been
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like ripped out or something okay okay yeah so the
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the little light bulbs that illuminate your license plate that's
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another reason i'm stopping you but okay so like i
612
00:30:10.470 --> 00:30:11.930
said i'm not in the business of writing tickets i
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just want to make sure nobody's drinking and driving up
614
00:30:13.670 --> 00:30:15.710
here which obviously you're not so just let me do
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what i gotta do and then we'll get y'all out.
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Of here okay thank you All right. Tell your buddy
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to unlock this door.
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Open it.
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What's your name, boss?
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Jesus.
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Huh?
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00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:42.700
You don't got no ID? No, sir. You don't carry
623
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an ID?
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00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:45.400
You know what? I do, but we left it at home.
625
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.640
Huh? We left it at home. You left it at home?
626
00:30:47.660 --> 00:30:47.769
Yeah.
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00:30:47.789 --> 00:30:49.529
How are you supposed to win a jackpot without an ID?
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I don't know.
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00:30:51.410 --> 00:30:51.670
Huh?
630
00:30:51.930 --> 00:30:52.690
We didn't go nowhere.
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00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:53.829
What?
632
00:30:53.970 --> 00:30:54.950
We didn't go nowhere.
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00:30:56.089 --> 00:30:57.789
She just said y'all going to the casino. They did.
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00:30:57.910 --> 00:30:58.470
Oh, we didn't go.
635
00:30:58.849 --> 00:30:59.089
Huh?
636
00:30:59.529 --> 00:30:59.849
They did.
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00:30:59.869 --> 00:31:00.309
We didn't go.
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00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:02.960
The casino's over this way. Y'all ain't even gone that
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way yet.
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00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.000
I know, but I didn't go to the casino.
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00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.519
I know that because you haven't got to it yet.
642
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.380
Yeah.
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00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.960
Yeah. Come on out. You ain't making no sense, dude.
644
00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:12.720
What?
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00:31:12.980 --> 00:31:17.200
Get out. I can be cool, but don't push it.
646
00:31:17.579 --> 00:31:17.839
All right?
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00:31:17.859 --> 00:31:20.190
If I tell you do something, that means do it.
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Get out.
649
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:25.359
Do you understand me?
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00:31:25.380 --> 00:31:25.680
Yes, sir.
651
00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:26.700
Yes, sir.
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00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:26.920
All right.
653
00:31:27.380 --> 00:31:28.750
Now I'm going to give you another chance because this
654
00:31:28.769 --> 00:31:30.390
is the third time I'm telling you to get out
655
00:31:30.410 --> 00:31:30.910
of the car.
656
00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:32.769
I'm done. Get out.
657
00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:33.809
I'm done, sir. I'm going.
658
00:31:34.049 --> 00:31:37.599
You ain't listening. You keep looking back. If you got
659
00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:40.680
some stupid word, bro. No, don't drive off, lady. 705,
660
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.000
I need help at my location right now. I'm fighting
661
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.789
with one. Fighting with one. 252 mile marker. Get out.
662
00:31:47.220 --> 00:32:13.769
Get out. Y'all put your hands up on the steering wheel.
663
00:32:13.890 --> 00:32:22.589
On the dash. Got a male and old camel running
664
00:32:22.609 --> 00:32:23.289
down the highway.
665
00:32:23.490 --> 00:32:25.890
You're gonna get tased.
666
00:32:38.970 --> 00:32:40.150
Put your hands behind your back. You're going to get
667
00:32:40.210 --> 00:32:45.390
it again. Put your hands behind your back. Put your
668
00:32:45.410 --> 00:32:46.210
hands behind your back.
669
00:32:46.650 --> 00:32:48.190
Behind your back.
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00:32:54.849 --> 00:32:58.170
With the man now in handcuffs, the officer still has
671
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.019
no idea he's just arrested a wanted fugitive and the
672
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:08.839
prime suspect in Albert's disappearance, Moises Lopez. Meanwhile, more officers
673
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.329
arrive at the scene with everyone sensing there's far more
674
00:33:12.369 --> 00:33:15.069
to this traffic stop than meets the eye. But despite
675
00:33:15.109 --> 00:33:19.250
their suspicions, they're about to overlook something that will allow
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00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:22.710
three suspects to slip right through their hands.
677
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.440
Get them out and start detaining them. She's been cool.
678
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:33.079
Just detain her.
679
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.279
Katie, just get out. We're going to detain you for
680
00:33:35.299 --> 00:33:38.019
a minute. Just be cool.
681
00:33:38.180 --> 00:33:38.700
Stand right here.
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00:33:39.420 --> 00:33:40.420
Katie.
683
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:40.809
She's fine.
684
00:33:40.829 --> 00:33:42.369
She's fine.
685
00:33:42.950 --> 00:33:48.849
Backseat passengers you are more interested in. Katie, stand right there, okay?
686
00:33:48.890 --> 00:33:51.829
Just be cool. That's what happens when you beat a dumbass, dude.
687
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:55.299
Thanks for not driving off, Caleb.
688
00:33:55.339 --> 00:33:55.900
I'm dying, sir!
689
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:57.019
That would have made it way worse.
690
00:33:57.740 --> 00:33:59.450
I'm dying, sir! I'm like, don't.
691
00:33:59.289 --> 00:34:01.569
F * * * ing cry. You're not dying, it's
692
00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:04.789
pepper spray! Yeah, yeah. You saw well enough before you
693
00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:05.470
hit the road.
694
00:34:05.690 --> 00:34:06.710
Help me!
695
00:34:07.089 --> 00:34:10.679
Dude, you are acting like a child. You guys... Ain't
696
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:12.539
nobody run for just a f * * * ing fight.
697
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.400
Something else going on here. You probably got a warrant
698
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.679
or something, right? I have a warrant. You do have
699
00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:18.099
a warrant?
700
00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:18.579
Okay.
701
00:34:18.619 --> 00:34:18.900
So.
702
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:21.380
Alright.
703
00:34:21.659 --> 00:34:28.019
We'll work it out. Nah, I don't know. Oh my god, yeah.
704
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.360
You probably got an ID in this wallet too, don't you?
705
00:34:31.380 --> 00:34:35.280
Well, that ain't you.
706
00:34:35.420 --> 00:34:41.289
That's probably somebody's stuff. Some of these items are his
707
00:34:41.369 --> 00:34:45.570
personal effects. Do you know who this person is? Is
708
00:34:45.590 --> 00:34:45.989
this his.
709
00:34:46.010 --> 00:34:46.090
I.
710
00:34:48.190 --> 00:34:49.010
Have no idea.
711
00:34:49.230 --> 00:34:52.929
Okay, I'm just wondering, because that's definitely obviously not him, so.
712
00:34:55.909 --> 00:34:56.849
Do you know who this guy is?
713
00:34:57.730 --> 00:34:57.789
No.
714
00:34:57.789 --> 00:34:58.110
Okay.
715
00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:06.050
At this moment, the deputy is holding Albert Pena's identification. However,
716
00:35:06.429 --> 00:35:10.610
everyone in the group denies knowing who he is. Officers
717
00:35:10.730 --> 00:35:15.929
then quickly piece together the group's relationships. Jaylene is Moises' girlfriend,
718
00:35:16.329 --> 00:35:21.039
Manuel is his brother, and Katie is Manuel's wife. Yet
719
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:25.260
with only Moises wanted on an active warrant, deputies decide
720
00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:30.699
to release the other three. After being tased and left bleeding,
721
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.179
he's transported to a nearby hospital before eventually being taken
722
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.010
to the Lincoln County Detention Center. That night, Detective Ballard
723
00:35:38.050 --> 00:35:40.690
receives word of the traffic stop and begins putting the
724
00:35:40.730 --> 00:35:44.530
pieces together. Katie and Manuel had been traveling beside Moises,
725
00:35:44.690 --> 00:35:46.989
and he suspects that they were the ones who helped
726
00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:50.260
him and Jaylene evade police days earlier. But by the
727
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.420
time Ballard realizes how important the other three people in
728
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:59.860
that car may be, they're already gone. The next morning,
729
00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:03.659
with no idea where Jaylene could be, Albuquerque police issue
730
00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:07.170
a bolo for her arrest. While some deputies begin searching
731
00:36:07.230 --> 00:36:10.130
for her, others return to the dog shelter where Katie
732
00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:13.730
and Manuel work. The night before, Katie had the chance
733
00:36:13.769 --> 00:36:17.820
to speed off and potentially help Moises escape, but chose
734
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:21.280
not to. To detectives, if anyone is going to turn
735
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.320
on Moises, it's likely to be her. But getting Katie
736
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.199
to talk would be easier said than done.
737
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.440
How you doing, Katie?
738
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:33.019
Can I step through, please?
739
00:36:33.099 --> 00:36:33.860
Yes, ma'am, absolutely.
740
00:36:33.900 --> 00:36:35.679
I'm going to have you go right over here to
741
00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:36.559
this deputy, okay, sir?
742
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:38.420
We're not taking you guys anywhere. We just got to
743
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:40.179
talk about some stuff, okay? All right, Katie.
744
00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:42.369
If you remember me, I'm Deputy Velasquez with the Ocantara
745
00:36:42.389 --> 00:36:44.349
Sheriff's Office. I came here last night to speak. So
746
00:36:44.369 --> 00:36:46.929
I'm here to clarify some things, okay? So last time
747
00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:49.789
we spoke, you did admit there was blood on that dolly, correct?
748
00:36:50.050 --> 00:36:50.210
Yeah.
749
00:36:50.469 --> 00:36:52.309
And you say it was one of your friends, correct?
750
00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:54.800
Can you tell me who's friend, what friend?
751
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.039
Well, I was with my friend, Jaylene, and she had
752
00:36:57.059 --> 00:36:58.219
brought something with her. We went to pick her up
753
00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.280
from Udozo, so he.
754
00:36:59.219 --> 00:36:59.900
Said his name is Boots.
755
00:37:01.329 --> 00:37:04.610
I guess, yeah, who did y'all pick up? Jaylene, my brother,
756
00:37:04.670 --> 00:37:06.489
and some other guy. Some other guy?
757
00:37:06.650 --> 00:37:07.449
Call himself Boots.
758
00:37:08.010 --> 00:37:08.710
Call himself Boots?
759
00:37:09.050 --> 00:37:09.289
Okay.
760
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:10.929
And your brother was with you?
761
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:12.460
Yeah.
762
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.159
So who cut their hand? Boots.
763
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:16.420
He called himself Boots.
764
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:17.900
Oh, you don't know his real name, though?
765
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:18.019
No.
766
00:37:18.179 --> 00:37:20.000
But he lives in Rio Doso? I don't know if
767
00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:21.139
that's where I picked him up at.
768
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.039
Okay, okay.
769
00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:23.880
So you guys had a hacksaw?
770
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:24.739
Yeah.
771
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:25.199
Okay.
772
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:26.800
We didn't even use that.
773
00:37:27.139 --> 00:37:27.420
Okay.
774
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:29.320
And then there was a shovel, right?
775
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:32.460
A shovel?
776
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:32.840
Yeah.
777
00:37:33.179 --> 00:37:33.820
Ask for a shovel.
778
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.079
Yeah, you guys ask for a shovel and I ask.
779
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.460
Would you be able to show me, take us where
780
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:42.219
you guys cut wood?
781
00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:43.960
Yeah. Like the exact spot?
782
00:37:44.219 --> 00:37:44.380
Yeah.
783
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.010
Okay.
784
00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:48.170
And kind of pinpoint where it was?
785
00:37:48.409 --> 00:37:48.590
Yeah.
786
00:37:48.869 --> 00:37:48.949
Okay.
787
00:37:48.969 --> 00:37:49.130
Okay.
788
00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:54.880
To officer surprise, the couple hadn't left the county, and
789
00:37:54.940 --> 00:37:57.179
Katie even appears to be on the verge of revealing
790
00:37:57.219 --> 00:38:00.280
the truth. Suspecting she may be more willing to talk
791
00:38:00.539 --> 00:38:03.429
away from Manuel, deputies ask her to ride with them
792
00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:06.889
and lead the way to the mountains. But detectives haven't
793
00:38:06.949 --> 00:38:11.349
forgotten Katie's own daughter, describing her as the best liar
794
00:38:11.369 --> 00:38:15.070
in the world. And in fact, Katie isn't taking these
795
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.000
officers where they think she is.
796
00:38:17.019 --> 00:38:19.500
All right, tell me where to go, Katie.
797
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:22.860
Yeah, to go block the city canyon.
798
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:23.360
Okay.
799
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.679
Tell me, how do I say your husband's brother's name again?
800
00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:29.320
Moises.
801
00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:35.139
So Moises, does he also live in Rudoso? Or is
802
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:35.639
he local?
803
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.179
He's not local.
804
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:38.920
He's not local?
805
00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:39.199
Okay.
806
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:40.440
But.
807
00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:42.059
What?
808
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:44.539
He's freaking out.
809
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:45.099
Okay.
810
00:38:45.460 --> 00:38:47.599
And he took us.
811
00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:48.099
On a drive.
812
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:48.780
Okay.
813
00:38:50.010 --> 00:38:50.969
Where did he take you on a drive?
814
00:38:52.380 --> 00:38:53.719
To Cloudcroft.
815
00:38:53.739 --> 00:38:55.199
Okay, for what?
816
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.579
Because he told us this is where he put him.
817
00:39:00.619 --> 00:39:01.219
In Cloudcroft.
818
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.440
Okay, so we need to go to Cloudcroft.
819
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:05.400
Well, I don't know if you want to see this
820
00:39:05.460 --> 00:39:07.900
spot first where we were at.
821
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:08.159
Um, yep.
822
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:09.159
Yes, ma'am.
823
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:10.960
That's exactly what we're going to do.
824
00:39:11.219 --> 00:39:12.360
You're doing really good, Katie.
825
00:39:13.539 --> 00:39:14.739
I don't want nothing to do with this.
826
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.989
I was going to do it.
827
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:16.699
I know, Katie.
828
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.610
I was doing so good.
829
00:39:19.250 --> 00:39:19.409
I know.
830
00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:21.010
I didn't want to lie to you, but I don't
831
00:39:21.050 --> 00:39:22.300
want my husband to see.
832
00:39:22.389 --> 00:39:22.659
I know.
833
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:24.739
And do you know what?
834
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:26.960
I I hope you don't feel I was being rude
835
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.780
to you, but do you know what I meant by, like,
836
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:30.579
when we can see something's not right?
837
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.500
Yeah, I wanted you to see something wasn't right because
838
00:39:33.539 --> 00:39:34.480
I wanted you to take.
839
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:34.920
Me somewhere else.
840
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:35.539
I got you.
841
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:36.420
I got you.
842
00:39:37.099 --> 00:39:39.460
Did you actually see a body in Club Drive?
843
00:39:40.949 --> 00:39:42.590
I didn't see it, but he just.
844
00:39:42.869 --> 00:39:45.510
We drove up there and he said, this is where
845
00:39:45.550 --> 00:39:46.010
I put him.
846
00:39:46.349 --> 00:39:48.610
We all just drove past the low and we just
847
00:39:48.670 --> 00:39:49.090
kept going.
848
00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:56.630
In an unexpected turn, Katie's story has completely flipped, as
849
00:39:56.789 --> 00:40:00.250
she now claims Moises roped both her and Manuel into
850
00:40:00.309 --> 00:40:05.590
helping dispose of a body. Katie continues retracing the group's movements,
851
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:09.719
leading officers 15 miles into the Sacramento mountains, and they
852
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.860
would soon realize Boots wasn't a name she and Manuel
853
00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:17.500
had simply made up, but was referring to someone detectives
854
00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:29.449
were all too familiar with. just like paint the picture
855
00:40:29.489 --> 00:40:30.929
for me okay so you guys are all hanging out
856
00:40:30.969 --> 00:40:34.710
there moises and boots were they fighting.
857
00:40:34.889 --> 00:40:36.909
No i don't know we're all just hanging out here
858
00:40:37.130 --> 00:40:38.590
and everybody just walked around and they just kind of
859
00:40:38.630 --> 00:40:40.190
walked up together did.
860
00:40:40.070 --> 00:40:41.429
He bring the dolly with him did he bring any
861
00:40:41.449 --> 00:40:43.230
of the did he bring an axe with him no
862
00:40:43.869 --> 00:40:44.369
did he go.
863
00:40:44.530 --> 00:40:46.179
Up that way into the left up that way into
864
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:47.820
the right when he went back up.
865
00:40:47.780 --> 00:40:49.340
With the dolly he had to take it i remember
866
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.280
he took it over both of those branches right there.
867
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.010
When they went up there katie Did you hear like
868
00:40:57.030 --> 00:40:59.349
a scream or anything or a struggle?
869
00:40:59.489 --> 00:41:05.230
Nothing? Okay.
870
00:41:05.429 --> 00:41:06.110
I'm sorry, say it again.
871
00:41:06.289 --> 00:41:07.449
His brother told us he shot him.
872
00:41:08.650 --> 00:41:10.230
But we never heard a gunshot and he didn't have
873
00:41:10.250 --> 00:41:10.730
a gun on him.
874
00:41:10.769 --> 00:41:11.739
So that we know of.
875
00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:14.090
Okay. So I don't know if he's acting crazy.
876
00:41:14.889 --> 00:41:19.260
So Moises said he shot him? Yeah, and I was
877
00:41:19.420 --> 00:41:20.320
wondering about that.
878
00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:21.659
But you never saw a gun?
879
00:41:22.389 --> 00:41:23.369
No, and I never saw it.
880
00:41:23.630 --> 00:41:24.369
Okay.
881
00:41:24.429 --> 00:41:25.829
But I never saw a lot of blood, and I
882
00:41:25.849 --> 00:41:27.869
figured it would be a lot of blood.
883
00:41:27.889 --> 00:41:28.110
Okay.
884
00:41:30.269 --> 00:41:33.489
After getting back into the car, Katie leads detectives towards
885
00:41:33.530 --> 00:41:36.829
a remote cliffside, where she claims the group moved to
886
00:41:36.869 --> 00:41:40.530
the body next. And after almost two weeks of searching,
887
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:45.719
detectives are moments away from confirming the outcome everyone had
888
00:41:45.780 --> 00:41:46.579
been dreading.
889
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.679
Don't jump down there.
890
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:51.739
There's probably an easier way.
891
00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:02.539
You said it's a black trash bag? Yeah.
892
00:42:02.579 --> 00:42:03.179
Right here.
893
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:03.719
Okay.
894
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:07.840
Yeah.
895
00:42:08.099 --> 00:42:10.880
I'm on it. Okay.
896
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:13.989
Coming to you.
897
00:42:19.130 --> 00:42:19.570
Oh, I see.
898
00:42:19.909 --> 00:42:20.349
Yeah.
899
00:42:20.710 --> 00:42:35.610
Yep. We won't need a recovery or a search and rescue.
900
00:42:36.289 --> 00:42:39.250
Just probably fire with a backboard and straps?
901
00:42:39.289 --> 00:42:42.590
Because there's that trail I walk, you can go like
902
00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:43.050
this right here.
903
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:43.519
Yes.
904
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.320
Tragically, investigators' worst fears are confirmed as Albert's body is
905
00:42:50.460 --> 00:42:53.920
found with a clear gunshot wound to the head. His
906
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.559
body is transported for an autopsy, while Katie and Manuel
907
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.760
are taken to the Otero County Sheriff's Office for questioning.
908
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:05.090
Investigators relay the news to Detective Ballard, who immediately drives
909
00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:08.269
to the station, ready to interview the couple. As far
910
00:43:08.329 --> 00:43:11.449
as Ballard knows, they could have been just as involved
911
00:43:11.510 --> 00:43:14.659
in Albert's murder as Moises, and after speaking with Katie's
912
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.159
own daughter... Her cooperation may have been nothing more than
913
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.300
an act, but as Ballard walks in, Katie is about
914
00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:26.369
to surprise him by suggesting Albert's murder may involve far
915
00:43:26.449 --> 00:43:29.250
more people than investigators realized.
916
00:43:30.909 --> 00:43:33.730
Right now, you're not under arrest, but you are being detained.
917
00:43:33.750 --> 00:43:37.070
You've been cooperative. Everybody says that, you know, you've been
918
00:43:37.110 --> 00:43:38.280
very good, and I appreciate that.
919
00:43:39.059 --> 00:43:41.280
Me and my husband, I was about to do this
920
00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:42.380
tattoo of my name on his hand.
921
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.460
We got a call from his brother, so... They're supposed
922
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.440
to be just freaking out. They speak in Spanish a lot.
923
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:51.460
So I don't know too much, but I know when
924
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.900
everyone has withdrawing studies, studies in trouble, he just needs
925
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:56.130
help and he needs us to go pick him up.
926
00:43:56.139 --> 00:43:56.869
He's in Redoso.
927
00:43:57.230 --> 00:43:59.909
We go from Redoso to Mountaineer. When we get there,
928
00:44:01.369 --> 00:44:04.650
then his girlfriend is with us too. They take us to,
929
00:44:04.670 --> 00:44:06.869
she says it's her property. When we pull up, there's
930
00:44:06.889 --> 00:44:09.070
this little, they call it a palm house.
931
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:09.579
Okay.
932
00:44:11.809 --> 00:44:13.530
They said, we didn't know what was going on, and
933
00:44:13.550 --> 00:44:14.969
there was two other people there, I don't know who
934
00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:18.579
they were, but he's like, well, and then he starts
935
00:44:18.619 --> 00:44:22.000
telling you, oh, I killed someone, and what the, what the,
936
00:44:22.019 --> 00:44:24.860
you know, and I guess they thought a cart was coming,
937
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.809
so everybody just started running, and they grabbed the body
938
00:44:27.829 --> 00:44:28.989
and threw it in the back of my car.
939
00:44:29.030 --> 00:44:30.710
And you threw it into the blazer?
940
00:44:30.929 --> 00:44:33.929
Yeah, and I'm like, what the, like, you know, that's
941
00:44:33.949 --> 00:44:35.449
my car, what the fuck's going on, you know, we
942
00:44:35.469 --> 00:44:36.690
just got thrown, and everything.
943
00:44:36.429 --> 00:44:37.650
Just got thrown at us real quick, and.
944
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.590
Not only does Katie claim she saw Albert's body, but
945
00:44:47.650 --> 00:44:50.989
she adds that two other mysterious men were also at
946
00:44:51.030 --> 00:44:55.030
the scene, a detail that, if confirmed, would widen the
947
00:44:55.090 --> 00:44:58.940
scope of both the homicide and the cover-up even further.
948
00:45:00.489 --> 00:45:03.550
As Katie would go on to explain, they repeatedly loaded
949
00:45:03.690 --> 00:45:06.889
Albert's body into her car, moving him from one remote
950
00:45:06.949 --> 00:45:10.849
dump site to another as Moises grew increasingly paranoid the
951
00:45:10.889 --> 00:45:14.010
police were closing in. With Katie's statements on the record,
952
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.440
she is arrested and placed in custody while detectives move
953
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.329
on to talk with her husband, Manuel. After doing some digging,
954
00:45:22.690 --> 00:45:26.389
Ballard had uncovered Manuel's years-long effort to get sober and
955
00:45:26.510 --> 00:45:30.170
turn his life around, only for Moises to allegedly keep
956
00:45:30.210 --> 00:45:33.690
pulling him back into trouble. With that in mind, Ballard
957
00:45:33.730 --> 00:45:36.719
is about to test just how far Manuel's loyalty to
958
00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:38.639
his younger brother really goes.
959
00:45:38.659 --> 00:45:42.079
Can you think of any reason why if Katie's story
960
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:43.980
is not matching with yours, why that might be?
961
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:46.179
Okay.
962
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.900
Do you think it could be... Because she's not related
963
00:45:50.940 --> 00:45:56.079
to Moises. And we're not down here on accident.
964
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:59.619
Actually, I'm scared, bro. Because I've been doing so good,
965
00:45:59.929 --> 00:46:01.559
me and my wife. I believe it.
966
00:46:02.010 --> 00:46:06.110
Don't derail yourself.
967
00:46:06.210 --> 00:46:06.989
Tell me what happened.
968
00:46:07.010 --> 00:46:10.630
Did he say he killed somebody?
969
00:46:11.150 --> 00:46:11.929
Did he say why?
970
00:46:11.949 --> 00:46:12.010
No.
971
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.760
He's too high to even talk, so.
972
00:46:19.389 --> 00:46:20.440
What did you think he was going to do with
973
00:46:20.460 --> 00:46:23.460
the tools when he said he killed a man? Dismember
974
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:28.380
the body? But, I mean, okay, maybe not. I wouldn't
975
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.769
have the stomach to do it. But he didn't ask
976
00:46:30.829 --> 00:46:34.110
for a bag. He didn't ask for a blanket so
977
00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:36.469
I can wrap this man up. He asked you for
978
00:46:36.530 --> 00:46:39.699
tools that could be used to dismember a human body.
979
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.659
So do you think he would have it in him
980
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:43.099
to do it?
981
00:46:45.650 --> 00:46:48.150
I guess at the state of mind that he was in, probably.
982
00:46:48.530 --> 00:46:50.789
I don't know what your brother's going to do. If
983
00:46:50.829 --> 00:46:53.360
your brother comes out with it and is straight, it
984
00:46:55.619 --> 00:46:59.619
could potentially change things. I'm more concerned personally. I'm more
985
00:46:59.659 --> 00:47:02.280
concerned with what happened to this poor man.
986
00:47:03.739 --> 00:47:04.820
This is an elderly guy.
987
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.820
He didn't do anything to your brother. I was really
988
00:47:07.860 --> 00:47:10.300
curious as to what the story would have been. This
989
00:47:10.340 --> 00:47:11.809
guy's in his 70s, almost 80s.
990
00:47:13.469 --> 00:47:18.070
He basically took your brother in and was trying to
991
00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:18.530
befriend him.
992
00:47:19.150 --> 00:47:22.730
After Detective Ballard successfully turns Manuel against his own brother,
993
00:47:22.889 --> 00:47:26.659
he gains yet another account, pointing to Moises as the
994
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:31.280
main culprit. But there's still one critical suspect missing, and
995
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:36.099
the group's fate now rests entirely on what Moises decides
996
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:40.679
to say next. Hours later, before Ballard can make the
997
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.699
drive to the Lincoln County Detention Center where Moises is
998
00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:48.300
being held, the bolo on Jaylene finally pays off. Investigators
999
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.510
receive a tip that she's staying at a trailer park
1000
00:47:50.570 --> 00:47:53.829
in Alamo Gordo, just a short distance from where Albert's
1001
00:47:53.889 --> 00:47:57.309
body was found. Now, in the dead of night, officers
1002
00:47:57.469 --> 00:48:00.869
close in, hoping they're finally about to catch Jaylene before
1003
00:48:00.929 --> 00:48:02.849
she even realizes they're coming.
1004
00:48:02.869 --> 00:48:08.119
Get your hands up, get your hands up. Come with
1005
00:48:08.139 --> 00:48:09.530
this deputy right here. Keep your hands up. Keep your
1006
00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:10.280
hands up. Keep your hands up.
1007
00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:10.550
Come on.
1008
00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:10.840
Turn around.
1009
00:48:10.860 --> 00:48:15.510
Put your hands behind your back.
1010
00:48:15.550 --> 00:48:15.730
Okay.
1011
00:48:15.750 --> 00:48:18.110
You've got to warm for your rest.
1012
00:48:18.349 --> 00:48:20.610
Oh, why did I turn around?
1013
00:48:20.650 --> 00:48:20.829
Move.
1014
00:48:20.869 --> 00:48:20.989
Move.
1015
00:48:21.010 --> 00:48:21.289
Back up.
1016
00:48:21.389 --> 00:48:22.670
Sheriff's office. Sheriff's office area.
1017
00:48:24.449 --> 00:48:24.590
Yep.
1018
00:48:24.670 --> 00:48:24.829
Right.
1019
00:48:25.150 --> 00:48:25.530
Going right.
1020
00:48:25.550 --> 00:48:26.929
Going right. Big-ass dog.
1021
00:48:27.190 --> 00:48:27.550
Going left.
1022
00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:27.909
Going left.
1023
00:48:27.929 --> 00:48:35.449
Let's put it right here on that.
1024
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:36.780
You light it?
1025
00:48:36.820 --> 00:48:36.969
Yeah.
1026
00:48:37.219 --> 00:48:37.360
Yeah.
1027
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.210
And now you are being placed under arrest for an
1028
00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:46.250
active warrant for an incident that occurred in Torrance County.
1029
00:48:46.289 --> 00:48:48.730
Here's the thing. I've been doing this for a long time.
1030
00:48:49.989 --> 00:48:52.170
I'm not the case agent on this. Somebody else is
1031
00:48:52.190 --> 00:48:53.510
going to likely want to talk to you in a
1032
00:48:53.550 --> 00:48:58.210
little while. You know exactly what I'm talking about. You
1033
00:48:58.250 --> 00:49:00.789
know exactly what I'm talking about. When I say Bailey Canyon,
1034
00:49:01.030 --> 00:49:02.889
you know exactly what I'm talking about. When I say
1035
00:49:02.949 --> 00:49:04.869
West Side Road, you know exactly what.
1036
00:49:04.929 --> 00:49:06.090
Stop shaking your head no.
1037
00:49:06.429 --> 00:49:07.230
You know exactly what.
1038
00:49:07.190 --> 00:49:07.650
This is about.
1039
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.579
We know exactly what this is about. So you're going
1040
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:15.010
to give yourself one opportunity to be honest.
1041
00:49:14.789 --> 00:49:15.269
As we do.
1042
00:49:15.650 --> 00:49:19.230
With Jaylene finally in handcuffs, officers transport her to the
1043
00:49:19.250 --> 00:49:21.849
Otero County Sheriff's Office. Sheriff's Office, where Katie and Manuel
1044
00:49:21.909 --> 00:49:25.610
remain in custody. Up to this point, Ballard's approach has
1045
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.039
worked remarkably well, successfully getting two suspects to implicate Moises.
1046
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.360
But with Jaylene, that strategy is about to hit a wall.
1047
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:38.539
And before this investigation is over, one suspect will eventually
1048
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:39.139
walk free.
1049
00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:44.139
I don't know if you remember me. I'm Lieutenant Mallard
1050
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:44.940
with the Sheriff's Office.
1051
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.219
This is Alex, the detective.
1052
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.719
Try to get a hold of yourself. I'm going to
1053
00:49:48.739 --> 00:49:50.360
explain what's going on, and we're going to get to
1054
00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:53.449
the bottom of this, okay? Unless you want to be
1055
00:49:53.469 --> 00:49:56.289
going to jail for a first-degree murder charge, then you
1056
00:49:56.309 --> 00:49:58.329
need to think. Don't play this game like you don't
1057
00:49:58.369 --> 00:50:00.010
know what I'm talking about.
1058
00:50:00.050 --> 00:50:00.829
Listen to me.
1059
00:50:00.849 --> 00:50:03.320
Listen to me. If you want to, I'll walk away
1060
00:50:03.380 --> 00:50:05.639
right now, and I promise you this isn't going to
1061
00:50:05.659 --> 00:50:05.980
end well.
1062
00:50:07.030 --> 00:50:08.130
Okay?
1063
00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:10.909
I'm not playing this game with you. You know exactly
1064
00:50:10.969 --> 00:50:13.269
why we're here. We've already talked to Katie.
1065
00:50:13.829 --> 00:50:14.150
Okay?
1066
00:50:14.590 --> 00:50:18.130
We have Moises. And I've already talked to Manuel. Okay?
1067
00:50:18.309 --> 00:50:19.150
This is no joke.
1068
00:50:19.869 --> 00:50:21.469
Okay? We have Albert.
1069
00:50:22.050 --> 00:50:22.409
Okay?
1070
00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:24.329
So the thing is, if you want to play this
1071
00:50:24.349 --> 00:50:26.969
game like you don't know what's going on, it'll save
1072
00:50:27.010 --> 00:50:28.820
me time and we'll just take you back to Torrance.
1073
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.260
We already know about the property off of Bronco. With
1074
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:35.260
the blood, the footprints, you're going to play this game
1075
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.610
with me. I dare you to stay with that story.
1076
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:42.280
You want to go to prison for this?
1077
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:42.860
No.
1078
00:50:43.099 --> 00:50:45.820
Then stop with the bullshit. I want my lawyer.
1079
00:50:45.940 --> 00:50:46.219
Okay.
1080
00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:48.940
I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything.
1081
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.860
That's perfectly fine. And actually, that saves me a ton
1082
00:50:51.900 --> 00:50:54.619
of time. Because when we're in court, you're going to
1083
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:56.519
regret sticking with this story.
1084
00:50:57.019 --> 00:50:58.239
Because you're going to take a ride for this.
1085
00:50:58.280 --> 00:50:58.940
I don't really care.
1086
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.079
But you told me what they said.
1087
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:02.300
I'm not telling you anything.
1088
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:03.380
You want a lawyer?
1089
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:05.619
We're going to take you back to Torrance. No, I
1090
00:51:05.619 --> 00:51:07.280
wanted to be the real thing, though.
1091
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.059
We're going to go back to Torrance, and you're going
1092
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:09.960
to take the ride for this.
1093
00:51:10.469 --> 00:51:12.050
Why am I getting in the right with this?
1094
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:12.769
Because you're a liar.
1095
00:51:13.090 --> 00:51:14.150
Why am I a liar?
1096
00:51:14.170 --> 00:51:14.969
I don't know.
1097
00:51:14.989 --> 00:51:17.300
I don't know if it's because you're scared or it's genetic.
1098
00:51:17.380 --> 00:51:17.980
I'm scared.
1099
00:51:18.059 --> 00:51:19.300
I'm really scared.
1100
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:19.719
Okay.
1101
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:21.940
Well, now you're going to lie. So basically now what's
1102
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.380
going to happen is I'm going to go into court.
1103
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:24.940
I'm going to prove you're a liar.
1104
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.519
No, because I'm not going to lie.
1105
00:51:27.539 --> 00:51:28.179
You're lying to me.
1106
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:29.659
How am I lying to you?
1107
00:51:29.739 --> 00:51:31.039
You said you don't know what happened.
1108
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.400
It's that simple, Jaylene. It doesn't work that way.
1109
00:51:34.940 --> 00:51:35.480
You're lying.
1110
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:35.869
No, I'm not.
1111
00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:40.500
And Albert's family deserve better than that. You should be,
1112
00:51:40.739 --> 00:51:42.519
you should be, you should be, don't sit here and
1113
00:51:42.539 --> 00:51:44.780
say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
1114
00:51:45.289 --> 00:51:47.010
He's a good guy and you let him throw him
1115
00:51:47.050 --> 00:51:49.269
on the side of the mountain like he's a piece
1116
00:51:49.309 --> 00:51:51.590
of trash. You should be ashamed of yourself.
1117
00:51:52.670 --> 00:51:53.469
Ridiculous.
1118
00:51:53.570 --> 00:51:55.710
He's a good man, but we'll just throw him here
1119
00:51:55.750 --> 00:51:56.329
on the side.
1120
00:51:56.170 --> 00:51:56.650
Of the mountain.
1121
00:51:56.929 --> 00:51:57.369
F * * * him, right?
1122
00:51:57.409 --> 00:52:00.389
No, I don't like that.
1123
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:09.269
Unlike before, Detective Ballard's aggressive approach completely backfires, pushing Jaylene
1124
00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:11.969
to request an attorney and bringing the interview to an
1125
00:52:12.010 --> 00:52:16.050
abrupt end. Now that Jaylene refuses to say another word,
1126
00:52:16.409 --> 00:52:20.039
their best chance of learning exactly what happened and identifying
1127
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:25.510
the mysterious suspects Katie mentioned rests with Moises. With Jaylene's
1128
00:52:25.590 --> 00:52:29.610
interview over, Ballard finally makes the 50-mile drive to Lincoln County,
1129
00:52:29.809 --> 00:52:33.550
where Moises is waiting in custody. But what Moises doesn't
1130
00:52:33.590 --> 00:52:36.519
know is that Albert's credit cards found in his possession
1131
00:52:36.780 --> 00:52:40.480
are far from the only concrete evidence against him. Forensic
1132
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.039
reports have just come back from Albert's car, the bloody tools,
1133
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.420
and the bunker. In theory, Moises should fold under this
1134
00:52:48.460 --> 00:52:52.829
kind of pressure. However, encounters with law enforcement are nothing
1135
00:52:52.889 --> 00:52:56.550
new to Moises. After years of dealing with the justice system,
1136
00:52:56.909 --> 00:53:00.829
this won't be his first time sitting across from an investigator.
1137
00:53:01.090 --> 00:53:04.090
And after watching his latest arrest escalate from a traffic
1138
00:53:04.139 --> 00:53:08.659
stop into a violent confrontation, Moises has every reason to
1139
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.440
enter this interview guarded and unwilling to cooperate. By the
1140
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.889
time Moises walks in, both men have been preparing for
1141
00:53:15.929 --> 00:53:19.659
this standoff, and each believes he has what it takes
1142
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.000
to outsmart the other.
1143
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:22.800
Mr.
1144
00:53:22.900 --> 00:53:26.179
Lopez, I'm Lieutenant Ballard with the Torrance County Sheriff's Department.
1145
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.360
I spoke with you on Saturday, okay? And this is
1146
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:32.599
my partner, Alex. Here's the deal. You've been around a
1147
00:53:32.619 --> 00:53:34.179
long time. I've been around a long time.
1148
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:35.920
I'm not going to come in here and treat you
1149
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.800
like you're stupid, and I'm not playing games with you.
1150
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:40.949
I know a lot more today than I did on
1151
00:53:41.010 --> 00:53:42.860
Saturday when I spoke with you. I'm going to cut
1152
00:53:42.909 --> 00:53:45.989
right through all the bullshit. I know that something bad
1153
00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:50.190
happened and that Albert is not with us anymore, okay?
1154
00:53:50.269 --> 00:53:54.590
I know that for a fact, okay? I know that
1155
00:53:54.630 --> 00:53:56.550
you were there when it occurred, and I can prove
1156
00:53:56.590 --> 00:53:59.010
it in court. What I don't know, because I wasn't
1157
00:53:59.050 --> 00:54:10.679
there physically, is I don't know what happened. Moises, I
1158
00:54:10.699 --> 00:54:12.400
can prove that that's not true, though. I know why
1159
00:54:12.420 --> 00:54:14.960
you're saying that. I know why you're saying that. And
1160
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.739
if we hadn't have found what we found in the
1161
00:54:16.780 --> 00:54:20.550
last couple days, that probably would have been okay. You
1162
00:54:20.590 --> 00:54:23.360
had some items in your pocket when the police stopped you.
1163
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:24.280
Okay?
1164
00:54:24.739 --> 00:54:31.679
There were some credit cards and some IDs. Which one?
1165
00:54:32.860 --> 00:54:35.929
Okay.
1166
00:54:36.789 --> 00:54:40.949
Why are your fingerprints in his blood in that vehicle
1167
00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:42.150
that we found in the woods?
1168
00:54:42.170 --> 00:54:42.269
Bro.
1169
00:54:45.829 --> 00:54:47.409
Do you think we drove all the way down here
1170
00:54:47.449 --> 00:54:49.650
to BSU? I could have done another phone interview with
1171
00:54:49.670 --> 00:54:53.769
you if that's all it was. What do you think
1172
00:54:53.829 --> 00:54:55.539
it looks like when you have a robbery charge that
1173
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.539
you were convicted for, right? Well, it's funny because a
1174
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.679
man ended up dead and you have his property in
1175
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:03.320
your pockets.
1176
00:55:03.420 --> 00:55:05.619
Okay, okay.
1177
00:55:06.130 --> 00:55:07.550
Then we'll just see how that goes.
1178
00:55:07.610 --> 00:55:10.710
What he's trying to explain is that I know, but he... Oh,
1179
00:55:10.730 --> 00:55:12.190
that coat that I had, he loaned it to me
1180
00:55:12.210 --> 00:55:13.360
because it was cool that day.
1181
00:55:13.539 --> 00:55:13.940
Okay.
1182
00:55:14.019 --> 00:55:15.539
I don't know what he had in his pocket.
1183
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:16.139
It's okay.
1184
00:55:16.340 --> 00:55:16.659
Okay.
1185
00:55:17.019 --> 00:55:18.559
Just hear me out real quick.
1186
00:55:18.579 --> 00:55:20.210
Did I use them? No, I won't use them because
1187
00:55:20.230 --> 00:55:22.510
that's not my stuff.
1188
00:55:22.530 --> 00:55:25.579
That doesn't make a difference, man. No, it doesn't. You're
1189
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:26.239
in possession of it.
1190
00:55:26.219 --> 00:55:26.800
And he's dead.
1191
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:33.389
And your fingerprints are in his blood. I don't know
1192
00:55:33.449 --> 00:55:38.329
why you didn't. Because I don't know what happened. I
1193
00:55:38.349 --> 00:55:38.949
thought we'd come.
1194
00:55:38.849 --> 00:55:39.389
All the way down.
1195
00:55:40.469 --> 00:55:42.710
Cool.
1196
00:55:42.869 --> 00:55:43.449
Well, sit down.
1197
00:55:44.050 --> 00:55:46.030
We don't need to talk. We're going to call somebody.
1198
00:55:46.090 --> 00:55:47.199
Now what we're going to do is we have a
1199
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.719
search warrant. We're taking your items. We're going to take
1200
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.010
your DNA. They're going to get your fingerprints. And then
1201
00:55:53.030 --> 00:55:57.150
you're going to be charged. OK, well, that is that
1202
00:55:57.210 --> 00:56:03.590
is just not true. It's not something something's getting left
1203
00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:04.989
out here. We're going to take you in there and
1204
00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:05.900
we'll get this stuff taken care of.
1205
00:56:05.889 --> 00:56:06.090
All right.
1206
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.219
With Moises refusing to confess, detectives are forced to build
1207
00:56:12.260 --> 00:56:15.170
the case without him. And together with cell phone records,
1208
00:56:15.389 --> 00:56:19.460
physical evidence, and statements from Katie and Manuel, Detective Ballard
1209
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:24.840
pieces together what he believes happened that tragic night. On
1210
00:56:24.900 --> 00:56:30.179
December 30th... At 8.10pm, Albert and Moises leave the Willard
1211
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.800
Cantina together. At around 1am, they arrive at an abandoned
1212
00:56:34.900 --> 00:56:40.079
property belonging to Jaylene's family. What happens next remains unclear,
1213
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.460
but investigators believe the two may have gotten into an
1214
00:56:43.539 --> 00:56:48.119
argument before Moises raised a handgun and shot Albert once
1215
00:56:48.550 --> 00:56:54.429
in the head. With no apparent claim of self-defense, investigators
1216
00:56:54.489 --> 00:56:58.510
believe the killing was financially motivated, pointing to several of
1217
00:56:58.750 --> 00:57:04.530
Albert's belongings later found in Moises' possession. At around 2.20 a.m.,
1218
00:57:04.889 --> 00:57:09.320
Albert's blood-stained trailblazer is driven to Holland Road and abandoned.
1219
00:57:09.699 --> 00:57:12.699
His body is then taken back to the abandoned property
1220
00:57:12.940 --> 00:57:17.019
and concealed inside of the pump house. In the following days,
1221
00:57:17.219 --> 00:57:20.639
investigators believe Moises may have asked Katie to borrow an axe,
1222
00:57:20.820 --> 00:57:23.510
a hacksaw, and a dolly, which may have later been
1223
00:57:23.630 --> 00:57:27.230
used in connection with Albert's remains. At some point, the
1224
00:57:27.289 --> 00:57:31.099
group potentially retrieved Albert's remains and drove to West Side Road,
1225
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:33.559
where they may have disposed of them by leaving them
1226
00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:41.550
down the hillside. As of September 2026, the case remains ongoing.
1227
00:57:41.869 --> 00:57:45.429
According to New Mexico court records, Katie Landrum and Manuel
1228
00:57:45.469 --> 00:57:49.130
Lopez are each charged with tampering with evidence and conspiracy
1229
00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:52.420
to commit tampering with evidence. If convicted on both counts,
1230
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.599
each faces basic prison terms totaling four and a half
1231
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:00.019
years if served consecutively. Moises Castillo Lopez is charged with
1232
00:58:00.139 --> 00:58:04.139
first-degree murder, robbery, tampering with evidence, and conspiracy to commit
1233
00:58:04.179 --> 00:58:07.789
tampering with evidence. If convicted of first-degree murder, he faces
1234
00:58:07.949 --> 00:58:11.650
life in prison with potential additional prison time for other charges.
1235
00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:15.269
Court records also show that prosecutors dismissed the charges against
1236
00:58:15.349 --> 00:58:19.289
Jaylene Lewark without prejudice. The remaining defendants have not been
1237
00:58:19.329 --> 00:58:22.230
convicted of these charges and are presumed innocent unless and
1238
00:58:22.289 --> 00:58:23.920
until proven guilty in a court of law.