Dogman, Skunk Ape, Sasquatch, and UFOs: Five Decades of Encounters From a New York Investigator

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I'm Rai, your Kodega, here to lead you through the
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shadows of the unknown. My journeys have carried me across
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hidden corners of the world to places steeped in wonder, whispers,
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and unanswered questions. Walk with me as we uncover ancient civilizations,
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unravel unexplained phenomena, and chase the legends that refuse to die.
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Welcome to Kodega's Codex Aurelius. All right, everyone. Welcome back
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to another episode of Codega's Codex of Curiosities. My name
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is Rye. Yeah, you know, you know that I'm the Codega.
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I guide you along these mysteries, these unknown, um, unexplained phenomena,
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and everything else that falls in between. That's where we are.
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We're picking up all those stories, all those experiences that
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the mainstream media just glazes over. I think this is
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more important than that. So that's what we do is
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we go and explore these things. And if you guys
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So my guest tonight is known as the Squatch Father.
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He founded the Bronxville Paranormal Society, and he's got a
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few stories about something big and fast in the woods
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in New York. So I want to jump right into this. Al,
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welcome to the show, man. Really good. Really glad to
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have you here.
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Hey, right. Thank you for having me, man. It's my pleasure,
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my honor to be here. Thank you for inviting me on.
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I am excited to have you on. You know, I've
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seen you on many shows. You know, we're all in
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the same groups. We kind of run in that same circle.
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But I've never asked you to come on. And I
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finally was like, I got to get Al on here.
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I know he's got a ton of stories. And that's
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exactly what we're going to do. We're going to jump
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right into this. And I would love to know what
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got you into this. you know, being the squatch father
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or into the paranormal or into dogmen? Was there an
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event when you were younger that just kind of ignited this?
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Oh, absolutely. Yeah. When I was like five years old,
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my grandmother passed away and I got her room. I
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got her a bed and she was across the street
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at the funeral. The funeral was literally across the street
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from our house. And every night for a week, she
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came up and tucked me in. She only spoke fluent Italian.
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She didn't speak any English. And she would tell me
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every night in Italian, you know, how much she loved
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me and she would tuck me in. My mom was
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a psychic and I would tell my mom, you know,
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that Nonna's here, you know, and she would say, that's okay.
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Don't worry. She's just here to check on you. Don't
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tell your father, you know, so I didn't tell my father.
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And my brother was a big paranormal guy growing up.
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He's a, He was one of the first parapsychologists in
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the United States. So, I mean, he had every book
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under the sun. His room was a library of paranormal.
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And when he finished reading it, I read it as well.
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You know, my sister, like my mother, was very gifted, intuitive,
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stuff like that. And so, you know, we had, my
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aunt was, I had an aunt who was a white witch.
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I had a cousin who was a black witch. So
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my family, the paranormal was normal. They would always do
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seances and stuff. And, you know, we would sneak out
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and catch them, watch them, you know, doing the stuff
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and watching like candelabras dancing on the table and everything.
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It's pretty wild stuff. And that's how I just got in,
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just was born into it. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
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You definitely were just born into it. You know, your
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whole family is, is involved with it. Now, what about
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Dogman then? When did you, or Sasquatch, when was that
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one ignited? When was that interest spurned? Well, my first.
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Sasquatch experience was when I was 12 years old, 1974,
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South Florida. My sister lived in a little town called Davie.
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She lived on the outskirts by the swamps. That particular summer,
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there was a drought. There was fire in the Everglades
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and all the animals were coming in. And, you know,
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we had a skunk ape come to the house a
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couple of times. And long story short, it was a
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very traumatic experience. After it was all said and done,
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and I came back to New York, I couldn't sleep
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for like two years, you know, freaked me out. And
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Dogman came later on when I started my own team.
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the Bronxville Paranormal Society, and just researching and stuff like that.
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We had a dogman bluff charge us one night on
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an investigation. Didn't know what we were dealing with at
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the time because we didn't know there were dogmans in
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this particular area. We knew there was Sasquatch. We knew
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there was a lot of paranormal UFOs, but no one
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knew anything about a dogman. And of course, the first
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location I picked happened to be right above a dogman
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den in And at one point during the course of
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the night, we heard something bluff charging us, come charging
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up the ridge line. And here in New York and
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the East Coast, we have a lot of stone walls
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that run in all different directions. And we were using
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that stone wall as a divider. And we were on
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one side of the stone wall. The den was in
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a swamp on the other side, but we didn't know
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the den was there. And all of a sudden, something
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comes running up the ridge line, charging. a quadruped come
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charging up. And my cameraman, Bill, who was sitting with
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his back to the wall, got up and he ran.
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And I grabbed him as he was running by me
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and I spun him around and told him, stop, stand
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your ground. And he ended up about 10 feet behind
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me on a 45 degree angle to my left. And
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my tech guy was on my right. He was about
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a 45 degree angle and about 10 feet behind me
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to my right. And I was the tip of the spear.
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And This thing's charging up the ridge. I thought, honest
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to God, I thought it was a black bear or
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a mountain lion. Didn't really know. We didn't have any
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firearms on us. I don't let anybody come out with firearms.
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We had machetes, survival knives, pepper spray, stuff like that. Anyway,
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this thing is charging up the ridge, and I'm thinking, oh,
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this is going to be a mountain lion. He's going
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to come over this wall, and I'm going to have
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to sacrifice my left arm and kill it with my
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survival knife because the machete's I couldn't swing the machete
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where I was. There was too many trees around me.
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And comes right up to the wall, and the sound stops.
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And we're all just standing there looking. I had a
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little Sony camera hanging around my neck. I flipped it on,
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and it took one still photo of the wall where
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I thought whatever it was was there. And I took
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that one picture, and in that photograph, I caught a
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dog man's head up sniffing over the wall. You could
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see It's eyes, it's nose, it's snout, and it's ears
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like cropped. It almost had like a pit bull kind
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of head. And, you know, at that point we left
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and we moved on to a couple of different locations
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that night. But that was our first experience with the Dogman,
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not knowing that the Dogman was even in those woods,
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you know.
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And that's how it started with the Dogman. How did
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you end up finding out, like, its den was near
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where you were? And I will say, it's not the
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first time that I've heard of those very, like, quite
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low-cropped ears on a dogman as well. You know, like
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you mentioned, it's a pit bull style kind of thing.
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It is not the first time that I've heard that before.
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I wonder, it almost seems like unnatural, like someone is
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doing it. And I wonder why that is happening.
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Yeah, you know, that was actually on Halloween night. It
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was Hallow's Eve the night we were out there. About
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six months later, I was being drawn back to that area.
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I was just being pulled back there. And I told
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my camera guy, my tech guy, I said, listen, I'm
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going back. If you guys don't want to come back
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with me, I understand. You know, we put our lives
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on the line that night. But I got to go back.
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Something is pulling me back. So they were like, no, no,
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we'll go with you out. So we went back. And
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as I was getting closer and we were getting closer
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and closer to the area, I started getting hit with infrasound.
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I started overheating. I started sweating profusely. I had to
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get behind a tree, pour a canteen of water over
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my head. My camera guy, Bill, was like, let's turn around.
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Let's go back. And I was like, dude, I can
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see the area where I want to be from here.
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I'm not turning back. Caught my breath. We went on
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and we were looking around the area and three experienced investigators.
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And it was like we had blinders on. We couldn't
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see anything. And then all of a sudden, the little
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voice in the back of my head said, jump up
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on this big rock. I jumped up on the rock
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and the voice said, move the cattails out of the
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way because I have a walking stick. I moved the
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cattails and there was a trail that went right into
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the middle of the swamp. And Bill came up with
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his camera, and we zoomed into the swamp, and there
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was a den in the middle of the swamp. And
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in the den was a big canine-looking creature, like your
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typical dogman, you know, soldier dogman, and the one that
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bluff-charged us. And the one that bluff charged us was
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snarling at us. She was not happy that we had
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found her den. And it was strange because the minute
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we found that trackway into the den, it was like
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the blinders were off and we started looking around and
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we're seeing breaks and bends and twists and arches. We
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found something that looked like a corral. You know, we
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found scat. We found all kinds of stuff where 10
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minutes before we didn't see any of this stuff. It
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was very, very strange. Very, very strange.
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Very like isolated into one specific area. It's as if
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it was kept there, um, for that reason. It's, uh, it's,
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it's intriguing. What about, um, so, and you were able
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to deduce that it was female. Is that what you're,
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you're saying with that one?
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Um, I'm thinking that the, the smaller of the two
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was the female. Yeah. Because, uh, If it would have
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been the big boy that was in the den, he
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would have been taller than a wall on all fours.
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Because the wall was only like a three foot high wall.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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And we jumped over that wall. We never heard anything leave.
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We never heard anything leave. We jumped over the wall
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with all our cameras. We had a 1500 luma flashlight.
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We lit the woods up like daytime. And there was
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nothing there. Nothing. We didn't hear anything. go back down
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the ridge. We didn't even jump off into the swamp.
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It was just gone. Three different cameras, full spectrum, thermal, infrared,
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nothing on any of them.
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Why do you think that is, Al? Why do you
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think they're able to disappear like this? Because this is
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not uncommon. This is not something that is new that, oh,
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they just disappeared. This is the first time we've heard this.
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We've heard this multiple times. What is your theory on
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these creatures just, dissipating or disappearing?
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I don't know. I mean, I believe because I just
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recently had something where it happened to me where I
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believe it went into like a shimmer kind of thing,
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a cloaking kind of device. But why it didn't show
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up on any of the spectrums of light that we
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were filming in, especially thermal, was beyond me. Unless it
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jumped into a different dimension. And of course, we're not
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filming in that dimension. I mean, That, to me, is
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the only logical answer. It is.
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You know, when we start talking about this, it's kind
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of like people are like, oh, that's so sci-fi and whatnot.
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But it's not. This is something that I think is legitimately,
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it's legitimate that we are faced with alternate dimensions and creatures, beings,
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things that are able to dimension walk, you know, from
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one to the other. I'm unsure, though. One thing I'm
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unsure of is if they're able to do it themselves.
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or if they need a specific location or a tool
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to do it.
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Yeah, I'm not so sure about that either. But if
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I got into the investigation that night, we would be
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here for like two hours because so much stuff happened
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that night. Not only was there a full moon and
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it was Hallow's Eve, there was a meteor shower. We
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got visited by a UFO. We got visited by a Bigfoot.
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We had... We videotaped gnomes running from tree to tree.
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We were videotaping seven foot shadow figures jumping from tree
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to tree. At one point, we had two balls of
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light show up on the other side of the lake.
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And we hit them with two different lasers, a green
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and a red laser. And when we hit them with
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the laser, they both blinked out and never came back.
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But there was just like, and here's the crazy part.
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At one point, we heard a family coming down the
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Appalachian Trail at 10 o'clock at night. It was 10,
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11 o'clock at night. We heard a mother and father
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and two little kids walking down the Appalachian Trail. And
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you hear the kids kicking stones and stuff. And we're
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three large men in the dark with machetes and survival knives.
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So I said, let's turn on our headlamps. So we
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don't scare the hell out of these people. Not like
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anybody would be walking in the middle of the woods
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at that time with their children. No one comes out.
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The sound of the family comes right to the edge
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of the opening because now we're sitting in a meadow
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and nothing comes out. So we go in and look
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for them, thinking something may have happened. There's nobody there.
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We call my team psychic who's in Arkansas and she says, Um,
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that family won't be, that family's not there tonight. You
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were in a time space continuum. They'll be there tomorrow.
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And we were just, and we lost two hours of
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time that night. It just was a crazy, crazy night.
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That's the short version.
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That's the short version. You know, that's the Cole's notes
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version of this.
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Wow.
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You know, I, I often wonder about, um, with Halloween
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and Hallow's Eve, you know, there, there is something, there's
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something about that time of year, because not only that,
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we also have like here in Mexico, we have November 1st,
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November 2nd, which is Dia de los Muertos, which is
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where the dead can come back into the living world.
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And it's, you know, it's, it's right in that same
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pocket of time. There is, It's as if the veil
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is that much thinner around this time of year. What
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is your thoughts on that? Is that something that you
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believe as well? Is that why you went out on
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that night?
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I mean, I don't know. I'll be the first one
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to admit. I have no clue. I mean, that night...
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You know, we specifically picked that night because it was
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Hallow's Eve, you know, and it was going to be
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a meteor shower. And we went out, I went out
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with my cameraman like a week before to scout locations.
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And the only reason I picked the high ridge over
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the Dogman's Den is because I found three quartz crystal
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stones set up in a pyramid. And I was like, okay,
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this was the furthest point that we were at. And
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I said, let's start at the furthest point and work
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our way back, you know, because there was three different
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locations we wanted to go to that night. And, uh,
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if I would have never found those three courts, crystal
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stones there, we probably would have never started on that Ridge.
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You know, we probably would have started at the, at the,
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at the meadow or something, you know, it's just so,
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it's just, I mean, you know, we plan on going
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out again this Halloween too. So, uh, Hopefully we'll have
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the same kind of stuff happen.
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What type of equipment? So you said you had like
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an infrared, you have lasers. Of course, you have your
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security equipment, you know, whether it be your machetes, your
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survival knives and pepper spray. But what type of cameras
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are you going out with? And is there anything, any
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other equipment that you're using on these expeditions?
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I like to go old school, new school.
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I bring a lot of high tech stuff. And I
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bring a lot of old school stuff, old tech stuff.
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I'm using dowsing rods. I'm using quartz crystal pendulums. I'm
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using compasses. The Tibetan singing bowls, when you fill the
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woods up with those kind of frequencies, the energy just changes.
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It changes the whole dynamic of the woods. And all
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bets are off. And, you know, we had a couple of.
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Quartz crystal skulls with us that night we had a
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regular clear quartz and we had a rose quartz and
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we put them on the two we put them on
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the stones the quartz crystal stones that we found and
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we were trying to film to see if we could
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get energy jumping from one one quartz crystal skull to
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the other you know and um we couldn't get we
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couldn't capture anything like that but my favorite my favorite
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piece of equipment when i go out squatching or something
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like that is my parabolic mic Parabolic mic is just
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an amazing piece of equipment. I love it. And one
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of the things I have a lot of success with
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are the digital voice recorders as well. But like I said,
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if the new school stuff isn't working, all the high-tech stuff,
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I go to the old school stuff and that usually
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works or vice versa. But I've never been out there
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where neither one of them worked. You know what I mean?
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Now, you had mentioned something about... something slipping into not
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a pocket dimension, but you know, into like a cloaking
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and whatnot. What was that? You said that happened just
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recently to you.
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Yeah.
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My cousin and I, we were, we were going, I
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got a place I called the sacred site. It's a
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Sasquatch area. And this is the time of the year.
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They're usually there. And my cousin, Sean, he's a 20
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year old kid. I've been taking him out with me,
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taking him out ghost hunting. And he's had a lot
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of experiences in the, Six times he's come out with me.
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He's experienced more stuff than most people do in a lifetime.
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But we were going up to the sacred side. one night. Now,
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the Sasquatch side of the woods is the west side
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of the woods. And the Dogman side of the woods
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is the east side of the woods. And after the
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Dogman came to my house twice, I stopped going to
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the east side of the woods. I went there and
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I told him, okay, I got it. You know where
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I live. I know where you live. I'll just stay
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on the Sasquatch side. And I've been going there. I've
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been going to the sacred. I've been going to the
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sacred site for years. And I never, ever think about
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the dog man being in the den because I'm focused
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on what I want to do that night with the Sasquatch.
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That particular night, as we're hiking off trail about a
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mile straight up the mountain to get to the sacred site,
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the thought comes to me, and I don't know why,
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I wonder if the dogman's still in the den at
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the other side of the woods. No sooner do we
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get up to the high plateau, that's where the sacred
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site is, and we drop our bags, the dogman starts howling. Okay?
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He goes off. Now, my cousin and I are scrambling
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for our cell phones because all our gear is in
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our backpacks. So we recorded the dogman going off, and
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Soon as the dog man went off the first time,
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a large pack of coyotes went off. They just went nuts.
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So we're filming, we're both recording me and Sean are
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both recording. He's a little, he's younger than me. He's
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a little quicker than me. He actually captured the tail
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end of the dog man scream. And then in the
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middle of the dog, and just when you think all
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the coyotes are done, the dog man goes off again
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and the coyotes go off again. And Sean says to me,
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do we have to worry about the dog man? coming
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up here. And I was like, no, this is the
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Bigfoot location. It's not going to come up here. Now
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we were up there. It was a full moon that night.
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We got there like at three in the afternoon. It
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was two o'clock in the morning. I'm amped up. The
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moon has gotten me pumped. Sean is freezing his butt
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off and he's like, yo, guys, can we go home?
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And I'm like, sure, we could go home. So we
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hike down the mountain. We get back down to the
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Appalachian Trail. And it's like a little hill, maybe, you know, 15,
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50-foot hill, a little tiny hill. We come down off
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the hill. I'm in front. Sean's behind me. And the
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dog man is standing on the hill behind us. And
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he screams at us. And the scream goes right through
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Sean and right through me. And I turn around. And
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Sean's eyes are as big as saucers. And he's like,
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dog man. I go, yeah. So we turn around. We
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put our headlamps on. And we look. And we've had
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powerful headlamps and we look and we don't see anything.
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And we thinking, well, maybe he jumped down behind a
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little three foot wall. Maybe he jumped on the side
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of the mountain on the, towards the bushes, towards the lake.
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We're not really sure where he went. Um, I, at
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that time wasn't thinking about looking for a shimmer, you know, and, um,
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Sean goes, you want to go up there and look?
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And I go, absolutely not. I just want to get
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out of here, you know? And I, and it's like
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a four and a half mile hike out and I'm
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an old dude and I'm carrying a 50 pound pack. Okay.
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And I tell Sean, we're going to hike out of
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here tonight. We're not going to stop because I don't
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want him to, I don't want him to get in
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front of us. And then we have to fight our
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way out. I don't want to be flanked. So as
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we're hiking out, you know, If this dog man wanted us,
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all he had to do was jump off that little
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hill and he could have took us both down because
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I was only a foot or two in front of Sean.
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And if he would have took Sean down, he would
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have took me down. He would have killed us both.
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But he just wanted us out of there. And that
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whole time we were hiking out, again, it's a four
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and a half mile hike out. We can feel him
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behind us, pushing us out. His energy is pushing us out.
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But every time we turn around with our headlamps and
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we can go flood or we can go spot and
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we can never see anything, never seen any shimmer, but
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we could feel his energy just driving us out. And
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then it really got weird at the end as we
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were going out because I'm telling Sean to keep your
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head on the swivel. If you see any eyeshine in
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the woods, yellow eyeshine, let me know. And he taps
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me on the shoulder and he says, yo, cuz to
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my right at the two o'clock, at the two o'clock hour,
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there's yellow eyeshine. So we stop and we look and
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we see the yellow eyeshine and it's about at the five,
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six foot level, you know? And I'm thinking, oh man,
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he's sitting on his haunches waiting for us to come
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past this part of the trail. Now we're off the
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Appalachian trail. We're on a mining road, walking out. So
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we pull out our machetes because, you know, we got
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to defend ourselves. And as we're walking, Sean goes, well,
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you think it's a deer? I said, well, if it's
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a deer, it's the biggest deer I've ever seen in
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my life, you know? And it comes out onto the trail,
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and it's this giant buck with this giant horn, this
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rack on its head. And we're looking at it, and
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it's looking at us, and it's like trying to communicate
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with us. And Sean's looking at me, and I'm looking
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at him, and Sean is a very sensitive kid, he's
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His mom is part Native American. He's got abilities, you know,
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and we're looking at it and we're laughing hysterical because
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this thing is trying to communicate with us. So now
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we forget about the dog, man. Right. And I said,
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what do you think it is? And I said, I
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have no idea. For all I know, it could be
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an alien just showing itself to us as a deer.
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You know what I mean? I don't know, Sean. I said,
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I don't think a deer can scare a dog man away,
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you know, even though it's humongous, you know. As we're walking,
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it walks past us. It goes to the other side
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of the trail. As we start to walk again, it
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comes back out and it looks at us again. And
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it's like trying to make contact. But we're so dumbfounded
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by what we're seeing. We're not focusing in on what
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it's trying to tell us. So anyway, it was so
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close to me, I could have had it. That's how
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close it was. And it leaves. The dog man is
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gone now.
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And it's just massive, right?
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Oh, like what do they call those big deers in England?
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They got names for them. I forgot what they're called.
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They got these big deers in England with giant horns.
470
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So me and Shauna, we forget about the dog man.
471
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We get to the car and we call the psychic.
472
00:26:36.619 --> 00:26:38.720
It's two o'clock in the morning. I call the psychic
473
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in Arkansas and I tell her what happened. And she
474
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starts laughing. She says, Wasn't it a deer? I said, well,
475
00:26:45.089 --> 00:26:47.049
what the hell was it? She goes, that one was
476
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an elemental, she said. And it showed itself to you
477
00:26:51.269 --> 00:26:54.130
as a deer, not to scare you guys. She goes,
478
00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:57.210
but I can guarantee you it showed itself to the
479
00:26:57.250 --> 00:27:00.190
dogman as something else. And that's why the dogman turned
480
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around and went back to his den. And I was like, well,
481
00:27:04.380 --> 00:27:06.900
thank you for coming to save us. You know what
482
00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:11.000
I mean? But I mean, it was the craziest. It
483
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.920
was the craziest night.
484
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Like a forest guardian is kind of what it was, right?
485
00:27:16.009 --> 00:27:18.369
Yeah. She said it was a forest guardian. It was
486
00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:21.150
an elemental. And it was there to let you pass
487
00:27:21.670 --> 00:27:24.750
and to stop. But the dogman was just pushing us out.
488
00:27:24.769 --> 00:27:30.559
He wasn't doing anything aggressive. We didn't hear howls. We
489
00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:33.619
didn't hear snarling. We didn't hear him ripping down trees.
490
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.619
It was just his energy pushing us. And we could
491
00:27:37.700 --> 00:27:41.450
both just feel his energy. pushing us out, you know? Now,
492
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I've been herded out by the Sasquatch a million times
493
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at this location, but I've never been pushed out by
494
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:51.079
a dog man before, you know? And I told Sean,
495
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I said, man, that was pretty wild, you know? And
496
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he was like, yo, cuz, this place is insane. Yeah,
497
00:28:01.049 --> 00:28:04.869
that was the most recent one with the dog man. Oh, actually, no,
498
00:28:04.890 --> 00:28:07.589
I had one in the backyard recently, too, but that's
499
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a whole different story.
500
00:28:10.710 --> 00:28:14.150
Okay, let's hear this backyard dogman's experience then.
501
00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:18.099
Okay, so where I live, I live up in the
502
00:28:18.140 --> 00:28:21.740
Hudson Valley, a lot of woods. I have 100 acres
503
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:26.400
of old, growth apple trees behind my house. And across
504
00:28:26.420 --> 00:28:29.880
the street, I have 100 acres of wetland. And a
505
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.099
lot of animals come through here. I've had Sasquatch come
506
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.390
through here. and leave me crushed crystal stones on my
507
00:28:37.450 --> 00:28:40.430
fire pit and stuff. But recently, we had a family
508
00:28:40.470 --> 00:28:44.349
of bears come in, move in, and they ripped my
509
00:28:44.730 --> 00:28:48.130
neighbor's retaining wall down because there was a beehive behind it,
510
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.480
and they wanted to get to the honeycombs, you know?
511
00:28:51.539 --> 00:28:53.900
So I was out in the backyard. I said, you
512
00:28:53.940 --> 00:28:55.539
know what? I got a lot of stuff I got
513
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.380
to burn. Um, let me, let me go out tonight
514
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and burn. So what I did was because of the
515
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.099
black bears that we, we have back here now, I
516
00:29:05.140 --> 00:29:07.740
went out with my pistol grip shotgun. Let me take
517
00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.660
the shotgun out. If anything comes into the yard, I'll
518
00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:13.950
just blast over its head, scare it away. You know,
519
00:29:14.930 --> 00:29:18.289
I'm not, I don't hunt. I got all kinds of guns,
520
00:29:18.349 --> 00:29:21.809
but I don't hunt, not anymore. And, uh, So I'm
521
00:29:21.829 --> 00:29:24.380
sitting in the backyard and I've got the fire pit going,
522
00:29:24.420 --> 00:29:26.940
actually listening to a Yankee game on the radio. And
523
00:29:27.619 --> 00:29:31.279
all of a sudden I hear this screaming coming down
524
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.789
the woods. It's like the weirdest screaming. I couldn't make
525
00:29:34.890 --> 00:29:37.509
out what the hell it was because we have foxes
526
00:29:37.589 --> 00:29:40.880
back here and we've heard foxes in the fox. are
527
00:29:41.059 --> 00:29:44.119
scary when they're screaming if you don't know what the
528
00:29:44.140 --> 00:29:45.859
hell it is it'll scare you out of the woods
529
00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:47.779
so i didn't know what the hell was going on
530
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.119
and it sounded like whatever was screaming was running down
531
00:29:51.220 --> 00:29:55.000
towards me and it sounded like whatever was there was
532
00:29:55.059 --> 00:29:57.640
something chasing it because you could hear something big like
533
00:29:57.700 --> 00:30:00.859
taking down trees you know So I'm like, what the
534
00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:04.289
hell is going on? At the end of my pistol
535
00:30:04.309 --> 00:30:07.970
grip shotgun, I have a hundred lunar flashlight. All right.
536
00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:12.569
So my neighbor has like a six foot by 10
537
00:30:12.569 --> 00:30:17.170
foot C-shaped brick wall that he burns in. It's like
538
00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:21.200
a little C-shaped brick, a fire play pit that he uses. Well,
539
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:26.099
this raccoon climbs up the wall, jumps up on a
540
00:30:26.180 --> 00:30:29.269
tree and he starts climbing up a tree. And he
541
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gets up to the top of one tree and he
542
00:30:30.789 --> 00:30:33.569
jumps over to another tree. And I'm like, I got
543
00:30:33.609 --> 00:30:36.950
the flashlight on the raccoon. Like what the hell's going on?
544
00:30:37.410 --> 00:30:40.750
When something else comes down and grabs the tree, it
545
00:30:40.789 --> 00:30:45.150
starts pulling the tree down, like back and up, right?
546
00:30:45.430 --> 00:30:47.420
The raccoon is at the top of the tree and
547
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.859
this thing is pulling it down. Now I take the
548
00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:53.660
flashlight from the raccoon and I point it down to
549
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.599
see what the hell is pulling the tree down. Because
550
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.609
I can see the raccoon going like this, right? And
551
00:30:59.849 --> 00:31:02.690
there's a dog man standing on the other side of
552
00:31:02.710 --> 00:31:05.299
this wall. Like I said, this wall is only six
553
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.539
foot high. This wall is six foot high. The dog
554
00:31:08.579 --> 00:31:11.690
man is maybe a foot ahead, maybe a foot above it.
555
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.900
But I don't know how much crap my neighbor has
556
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.400
behind it. So I don't know how actually how high
557
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.420
the back of the wall is. You know, may only
558
00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:20.450
be four feet high. I don't know. Because this thing
559
00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:23.369
didn't look like the other big ones I've seen. This
560
00:31:23.410 --> 00:31:26.430
thing looked young. It was skinny. It was scrawny. And
561
00:31:26.470 --> 00:31:29.380
it was pulling this raccoon down. And then when I
562
00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:32.430
seen it was a dog, man, the thought came to me,
563
00:31:33.289 --> 00:31:37.109
I shouldn't point this gun at it, but the flashlight
564
00:31:37.170 --> 00:31:39.130
is on the gun and I want to keep the
565
00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:42.539
thing in the light so I can see it. Well,
566
00:31:42.579 --> 00:31:47.119
it turns at me, not that I ever thought to
567
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.279
shoot it, but while I'm looking at this and these
568
00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:52.880
thoughts are going through my head, don't put the gun
569
00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:54.880
on it, but keep the flashlight on it. All this
570
00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:57.009
stuff's going through my head. My arm goes like this.
571
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:02.059
chambers around. I didn't even think about chambering around. My
572
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.160
arm just did it automatically. Okay. Once I chambered around,
573
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.539
the thing let go of the tree and it looked
574
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.859
at me and it started to run back up the hill.
575
00:32:12.940 --> 00:32:16.500
I run over to where my neighbor's fire pit is,
576
00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:18.799
but I stay on my side of the property and
577
00:32:18.819 --> 00:32:21.660
I don't go into his yard. And I put the
578
00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:25.420
light up into the woods to see where this thing
579
00:32:25.460 --> 00:32:28.930
is going and And it did something I've never seen before.
580
00:32:29.769 --> 00:32:33.359
It serpentined up the hill like this. It ran up
581
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.680
the hill like this serpentine. And I was like, so
582
00:32:37.779 --> 00:32:43.200
dumbfounded that this thing was serpentine running up the hill.
583
00:32:43.380 --> 00:32:45.509
He ran back up into the woods, you know, like
584
00:32:45.529 --> 00:32:48.210
the hundred acres of woods behind the house. And I
585
00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:53.430
was like, that is just insane that it knew to
586
00:32:53.609 --> 00:32:58.619
serpentine up the hill. Just mind boggling. And ever since
587
00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:02.099
that day, that raccoon comes to my house every night
588
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.420
and eats the cat food that we put outside for
589
00:33:05.450 --> 00:33:09.390
the outside cats. Actually, one night he opened the screen
590
00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:12.970
door and tried to come in. My wife was like, no, no,
591
00:33:13.269 --> 00:33:18.329
skip Mr. Raccoon outside because my wife eats everything. But
592
00:33:18.369 --> 00:33:20.579
she don't want the cats coming in, but she don't
593
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.160
want the raccoons or the foxes or the possums and
594
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.500
skunks and everything coming in, you know, because she feeds everything. But, yeah, no,
595
00:33:28.539 --> 00:33:29.980
it was crazy. I was just like.
596
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.519
The raccoon can stay out.
597
00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:36.519
I was just like, you know, and the funny thing is,
598
00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:40.680
the reason I was burning that particular night was we
599
00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:43.569
were in a no-burn time in my town. They weren't
600
00:33:43.589 --> 00:33:47.039
allowed to burn. But my neighbor to the right of me,
601
00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:49.480
my young neighbors to the left of me, they went
602
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.240
down to the city for the weekend. My neighbor to
603
00:33:52.259 --> 00:33:55.140
the right of me, drag race, he races on the weekend.
604
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.400
So he wasn't home. So I said, today would be
605
00:33:57.420 --> 00:33:59.569
a good day to burn because no one here to
606
00:33:59.630 --> 00:34:01.809
see me burning, you know, because I was trying to
607
00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:04.789
do it at night underneath the radar, you know what
608
00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:06.309
I mean? I didn't want to get any kind of
609
00:34:06.369 --> 00:34:09.690
fine or anything, you know? But, and that was the
610
00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:11.389
only reason I was out there that night because I
611
00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:14.630
was burning the wood that was, it fell in the yard,
612
00:34:14.690 --> 00:34:14.969
you know?
613
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.079
All right, everyone, quick break to talk about my partner,
614
00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:19.079
Noble Gold Investments.
615
00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:19.860
Who are they?
616
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.179
Well, they sell physical gold and silver, and that's something
617
00:34:23.219 --> 00:34:26.159
that I believe in, something that I can hold and
618
00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:32.179
I trust. Unlike digital currency, bank accounts, fiat, the stock market,
619
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.659
and that invisible hand working behind everything else. With this,
620
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.710
I know I have something of value, and it's not
621
00:34:39.730 --> 00:34:43.150
going to depreciate like my savings account against the inflation
622
00:34:43.210 --> 00:34:47.400
right now. So if you guys want to get your
623
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.960
own silver or gold, I have a link in the
624
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.739
show notes, contact them and they will send you a
625
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:56.840
free kit about moving part of your IRA or your
626
00:34:56.900 --> 00:35:01.030
401k into physical gold or silver. I'm not a financial advisor.
627
00:35:01.050 --> 00:35:04.130
Of course, this is what I've done. Maybe you should
628
00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:06.750
look into it too. Let's get back to those curiosities.
629
00:35:07.630 --> 00:35:09.829
That's incredible. You know, you're just right there at the
630
00:35:09.889 --> 00:35:13.539
right time to see all that. And do you think
631
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:18.239
that you are almost marked that they, they have, I
632
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.460
don't say appear to you, but they're almost drawn to
633
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.510
you more than they are other people. Is that something
634
00:35:23.530 --> 00:35:24.510
that you've ever considered?
635
00:35:26.170 --> 00:35:29.070
Um, I don't know if I'm marked. I know, I
636
00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:33.010
know when the, when the first few times, when the
637
00:35:33.349 --> 00:35:36.110
big dog man came to the house, he came to
638
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.139
the house because he was tracking me. Cause I don't
639
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.960
live too far away from the, from the location that
640
00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:45.199
I investigate. And you can get from there to my house,
641
00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:49.070
just crossing. We don't have any sidewalks over here. We
642
00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.409
don't have any streetlights. And you can stay in the
643
00:35:51.469 --> 00:35:53.730
woods and you can get from one area to the other.
644
00:35:54.090 --> 00:35:56.289
And no one will ever see you unless somebody happens
645
00:35:56.329 --> 00:35:58.699
to be driving up the street. And I think he
646
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.579
came to my house to let me know that he
647
00:36:01.619 --> 00:36:05.070
knew where I live. Because the first time I was
648
00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:07.269
sleeping in bed with my wife. We had our cat
649
00:36:07.429 --> 00:36:10.969
in between us and had the window open. Our bedroom
650
00:36:10.989 --> 00:36:13.969
was on the first floor. And I just had my
651
00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:16.110
backyard dug up a little bit because I had to
652
00:36:16.150 --> 00:36:19.489
run new water lines from the well to the house. OK,
653
00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:24.170
because we have well water. And so there was no
654
00:36:24.489 --> 00:36:27.909
no grass underneath my window sill. And in the middle
655
00:36:27.949 --> 00:36:29.989
of the night, we're sleeping. I got the window open.
656
00:36:30.460 --> 00:36:34.179
And the cat jumps up and runs upstairs like a bull.
657
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.670
Like a bull. It just ran, knocking everything down to
658
00:36:38.690 --> 00:36:40.449
get upstairs. And I was like, what the hell? And
659
00:36:40.489 --> 00:36:42.750
then I felt like there was something on the other
660
00:36:42.789 --> 00:36:45.230
side of the wall. I felt energy on the other
661
00:36:45.269 --> 00:36:48.469
side of the wall. And I put my hand against
662
00:36:48.550 --> 00:36:50.860
the wall to see what it was. Because like I said,
663
00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:54.579
we have Sasquatch that come by. I felt the wall.
664
00:36:54.980 --> 00:37:01.690
And it wasn't Sasquatch energy. Okay? It was very... intimidating
665
00:37:01.750 --> 00:37:04.300
kind of energy. So I did something I probably should
666
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.559
have never done. I put my face up against the screen,
667
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.559
see if I could see anything in the backyard. And
668
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.880
if this thing walked in, it could have just ripped
669
00:37:11.900 --> 00:37:14.460
me out right then and there. And I heard it
670
00:37:14.699 --> 00:37:19.099
sniff me. It sniffed me. At that point, I closed
671
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.000
the window. I locked it. I grabbed the pistol grip
672
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:26.050
shotgun and I started to walk towards the back, towards
673
00:37:26.090 --> 00:37:29.880
the kitchen of the house. Because we have the central
674
00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:32.059
lights in the backyard. And I was going to see
675
00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:34.639
what was in the backyard. Even though I kind of
676
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.400
knew what was in the backyard from the energy. And
677
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.920
I'm walking with the gun, the shotgun, through my hallway
678
00:37:40.980 --> 00:37:42.940
into the living room. And the little voice in my
679
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.480
head says, stop. Don't go into the kitchen. You don't
680
00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:48.900
want to see what's out there. Turn around and go
681
00:37:48.940 --> 00:37:53.000
back to bed. This goes against every fiber of my being.
682
00:37:53.699 --> 00:37:56.119
I turn around. I go back in the bedroom. I
683
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.909
put the shotgun. I got like four guitars on the
684
00:37:58.949 --> 00:38:01.610
side of my bed. I put the shotgun between the guitars.
685
00:38:01.650 --> 00:38:04.289
That's where I keep it. And I go back to bed.
686
00:38:04.329 --> 00:38:06.710
I go to sleep. I get up the next day.
687
00:38:06.730 --> 00:38:07.230
I go to work.
688
00:38:07.269 --> 00:38:08.809
I call a couple of guys from the team. I
689
00:38:08.829 --> 00:38:12.050
tell them what happened. Go back, look for tracks. I
690
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.099
go back and I look for tracks. I didn't see
691
00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:18.960
any tracks. But underneath my window where that patch of
692
00:38:19.019 --> 00:38:22.179
dirt was, where they dug up the grass, was four
693
00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:25.889
claw marks underneath the window. So I took a picture
694
00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:27.710
of the window. I took a picture. Like he was
695
00:38:27.750 --> 00:38:32.579
telling me, yeah, I was here, you know? And that
696
00:38:32.619 --> 00:38:40.099
was like October, November, January, February comes around. I'm going
697
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.639
out to warm up the car in the morning. And
698
00:38:44.659 --> 00:38:46.619
I always carry a little pocket knife and a little
699
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.000
pepper spray because sometimes we have packs of dogs that
700
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:51.539
run through the neighborhood and I don't want to get
701
00:38:51.610 --> 00:38:53.940
mauled by a dog, right? So I go to the
702
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.960
car and as I'm walking to the car, I feel
703
00:38:56.980 --> 00:39:00.369
like something is behind me watching me. And I turn
704
00:39:00.429 --> 00:39:04.349
around and I look and I don't see anything. And
705
00:39:04.409 --> 00:39:06.610
I was like, okay, get to the car, start the
706
00:39:06.650 --> 00:39:08.590
car up and let it warm up. Now I'm going
707
00:39:08.690 --> 00:39:12.190
back into the house. And again, I feel like there's
708
00:39:12.429 --> 00:39:18.030
something under my deck looking at me, watching me. So
709
00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:22.159
I start walking towards my garage door. My deck is
710
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.039
like eight feet high, okay? I just had two new
711
00:39:25.099 --> 00:39:28.489
retaining walls built to hold the deck up, cinder block walls,
712
00:39:29.150 --> 00:39:31.750
and I'm walking in. i got a pretty big driveway
713
00:39:31.769 --> 00:39:34.719
there's four cars in the driveway mine my wife my
714
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:40.059
daughters my sons and i start walking towards the towards
715
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:41.840
the deck because i want to see what's under my
716
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:45.179
deck i'm thinking this is a homeless guy or somebody
717
00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:48.280
looking to rob the house he's gonna have to deal
718
00:39:48.300 --> 00:39:51.869
with me you know Um, and as I'm getting closer
719
00:39:51.989 --> 00:39:55.530
and closer to the, to the deck, the little voice
720
00:39:55.570 --> 00:39:58.750
in my head is like, uh, you should probably stop
721
00:39:58.809 --> 00:40:02.050
right here, Al, you know? And I'm like, at this point, oh,
722
00:40:02.190 --> 00:40:04.530
earlier when I got up in the morning, I fed,
723
00:40:04.809 --> 00:40:08.559
I fed our outside cat Callie. Okay. At this point,
724
00:40:09.179 --> 00:40:11.699
Callie is coming around the front of the house to
725
00:40:11.780 --> 00:40:15.000
use my wife's garden as a litter box. She sees
726
00:40:15.019 --> 00:40:18.260
what's somewhere under the deck and she takes off running. Now,
727
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:22.340
that raises red flags to me, right? So I stopped,
728
00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:26.150
and I'm looking, and I'm looking now. I'm only about
729
00:40:26.250 --> 00:40:30.170
a car length away from the deck, and I hear
730
00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:32.210
a voice in my head. Again, I don't know if
731
00:40:32.250 --> 00:40:34.630
it's my guardian angel. I don't know if it's the
732
00:40:34.670 --> 00:40:37.789
dog man. I can't honestly tell you what it was,
733
00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:41.429
but I hear a voice say, you should stop right
734
00:40:41.590 --> 00:40:46.130
there before you get shredded. That's what I heard. So
735
00:40:46.190 --> 00:40:51.070
at that point, I stopped. And I looked and and
736
00:40:51.110 --> 00:40:54.269
the sensor lights are blinding me on my deck. They're blind.
737
00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:57.590
So I got my hand over my face. And now
738
00:40:57.750 --> 00:41:03.869
I see this giant canine head underneath my deck, humongous head.
739
00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:08.199
And he's hunched over and he's got like a mane
740
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.219
going around him. And he's looking at me and I'm
741
00:41:12.260 --> 00:41:14.760
looking at him now. I don't see yellow eyes. I
742
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.360
don't see teeth. I don't see anything like that. I
743
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.019
just see a black silhouette of a massive dog man
744
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.920
under my deck. So I say, okay. I start backing out.
745
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.019
I back away and I start to go in and
746
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.920
I say to myself, do I wake up my son
747
00:41:31.059 --> 00:41:34.519
and my son-in-law, load up all the guns and go
748
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.039
to war with this thing? Because I got enough guns
749
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.360
in the house and ammunition to kill this thing. Or
750
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.460
do I just leave it alone and now tell anybody
751
00:41:43.659 --> 00:41:47.139
anything and go to work? Now, I know I've heard
752
00:41:47.179 --> 00:41:50.179
enough stories where people go to war with these things.
753
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:54.079
It ends badly for them. So I decide not to
754
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.469
tell anybody anything and go to work. Oh, when I
755
00:41:58.510 --> 00:42:01.150
come back out to get to my car, I bring
756
00:42:01.190 --> 00:42:04.409
my tactical flashlight with me because I want to see
757
00:42:04.530 --> 00:42:07.409
under the deck now, right? And my little tactical flashlight,
758
00:42:07.730 --> 00:42:11.940
it's like, you know, 500 lumens, it's really bright. And
759
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:15.050
I look under the deck and there's nothing there. So
760
00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:17.889
I walk under the deck and on my brand new
761
00:42:17.909 --> 00:42:21.929
retaining wall, he had urinated on my wall and it
762
00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:25.010
was running down my wall and into my drain. And
763
00:42:25.070 --> 00:42:28.570
it smelled like pneumonia and it was very oily looking, right?
764
00:42:29.429 --> 00:42:33.409
So I'm pissed because this is a brand new wall
765
00:42:33.489 --> 00:42:35.820
and it just fits all over. And now I start
766
00:42:35.860 --> 00:42:40.880
thinking when I was at his, house that I go
767
00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:43.250
into the woods and urinate and is he just doing
768
00:42:43.269 --> 00:42:45.650
the same to me because I may at some point
769
00:42:46.090 --> 00:42:49.110
I may have wandered off and just went behind a
770
00:42:49.150 --> 00:42:53.469
tree and urinated you know so anyway I get to
771
00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:55.590
work I call a couple of guys on the team
772
00:42:55.610 --> 00:42:58.639
and I say you know so I'm sitting I'm sitting
773
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.380
at the down in the locker room at work because
774
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:03.780
I used to get to work like an hour early
775
00:43:03.820 --> 00:43:06.699
so I could stretch and everything and have my coffee
776
00:43:07.219 --> 00:43:11.170
and my wife calls me And she's hysterical, screaming. And
777
00:43:11.190 --> 00:43:15.429
I go, what's the problem? Now, my sliding glass door
778
00:43:15.809 --> 00:43:19.150
has three different deadbolts on it, up, down, and across.
779
00:43:19.510 --> 00:43:21.989
Because I grew up in the city, and I don't
780
00:43:22.030 --> 00:43:24.780
trust anybody coming into my house. I want to make
781
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.539
it as difficult as I can, right? So she starts
782
00:43:28.579 --> 00:43:31.260
screaming at me. She went to open up the sliding
783
00:43:31.300 --> 00:43:34.619
glass door to feed Callie, the cat. And the whole
784
00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:39.429
door jam started to fall out of the frame. But
785
00:43:39.469 --> 00:43:41.769
my son was in the kitchen. He caught it, and
786
00:43:41.809 --> 00:43:45.849
he put it back up, and he locked everything in place. Now,
787
00:43:45.929 --> 00:43:48.050
I was like, well, why are you feeding the cat
788
00:43:48.130 --> 00:43:49.829
at 7 o'clock in the morning when I fed him
789
00:43:50.090 --> 00:43:52.960
at 5, you know? I said, all right, just leave
790
00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:56.659
everything alone. I'm off tomorrow, and I'll reset everything. So
791
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.460
while I was in the front looking at him pissing
792
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.980
on my wall, he was on the back deck trying
793
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.469
to pop the door jamb out of the frame. But
794
00:44:07.510 --> 00:44:10.130
because I got these three different deadbolts, I couldn't get
795
00:44:10.170 --> 00:44:11.530
it to come out.
796
00:44:11.550 --> 00:44:15.690
Al, what do you do for work? You had said
797
00:44:15.730 --> 00:44:17.949
you were getting ready for work and stretching and having
798
00:44:17.989 --> 00:44:20.860
your coffee. What did you do for work?
799
00:44:20.969 --> 00:44:25.000
I was a mailman in the city. I walked like
800
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:26.659
20 miles a day from house to house.
801
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.380
You did a lot of walking. So I used to
802
00:44:30.420 --> 00:44:36.420
stretch every morning. I was just wondering, just curious on
803
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.670
that one, but very interesting that you know he decided
804
00:44:39.750 --> 00:44:43.159
to because you know some people think oh it just
805
00:44:43.219 --> 00:44:45.920
peeing on something now it means more than that it
806
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.619
means way more than it's marking your territory it's kind
807
00:44:48.699 --> 00:44:52.239
of it's almost in a way of like counting coup
808
00:44:52.460 --> 00:44:54.780
and how the the native indians used to do kind
809
00:44:54.820 --> 00:44:56.500
of thing in a way that's what that's what i
810
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.820
feel like it's you did that to me now i'm
811
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.230
doing this back to you and tit for tat possibly
812
00:45:02.789 --> 00:45:07.130
um yeah this This is crazy. This is absolutely crazy
813
00:45:07.170 --> 00:45:10.510
how it's just like stalking you and watching you, letting
814
00:45:10.530 --> 00:45:12.429
you know, hey, I'm here.
815
00:45:12.469 --> 00:45:16.369
Yeah, and after that, I went back to his den
816
00:45:16.489 --> 00:45:21.389
during the day. And I screamed from the top of
817
00:45:21.409 --> 00:45:24.090
the ridge. I was like, listen, I get it. You
818
00:45:24.130 --> 00:45:27.250
know where I live. I know where you live. You
819
00:45:27.289 --> 00:45:30.469
stay here. I'll stay at my house. And from that
820
00:45:30.510 --> 00:45:32.750
point on, I had never gone back to his dens.
821
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:35.340
until I went there with my cousin, and I was
822
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.239
wondering if he was still in the den. And that
823
00:45:38.300 --> 00:45:43.000
particular night was a little aha moment for me, because
824
00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:47.409
let me tell you what I've been doing recently. Up
825
00:45:47.449 --> 00:45:50.690
here in the Northeast, we have these stone chambers. Nobody
826
00:45:50.730 --> 00:45:53.510
knows who built them, right? They're all on ley lines.
827
00:45:53.789 --> 00:45:58.809
They all face different things, different equinoxes and stuff like that.
828
00:45:58.849 --> 00:46:03.260
They're made out of these 2,000-pound stones, really crazy stuff. Well,
829
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:05.929
I was in one of them one night during the day,
830
00:46:05.949 --> 00:46:08.329
because I like to do day night, right? And I
831
00:46:08.369 --> 00:46:10.130
was in one of them that was built on a
832
00:46:10.210 --> 00:46:13.829
Native American mountain. And I was asking it to do
833
00:46:13.869 --> 00:46:17.849
stuff with a quartz crystal pendulum and dowsing rods. And
834
00:46:17.889 --> 00:46:21.030
I was filming with my camera. And I was getting,
835
00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:24.139
whatever I asked them to do, it did. So I
836
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:27.340
went back at night. And when I went back at night,
837
00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:29.719
the little voice in my head said, stop, Al. Don't
838
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.349
do the same thing. Do this. Take the Take the
839
00:46:33.429 --> 00:46:39.210
pendulum and tie it to the tripod of the camera.
840
00:46:39.730 --> 00:46:45.929
Put the tripod in the chamber. Go outside with the camera. Film.
841
00:46:46.510 --> 00:46:50.090
But ask it to do the same things telepathically. And
842
00:46:50.170 --> 00:46:53.969
it did. Telepathically. Whatever I was dealing with could hear
843
00:46:54.030 --> 00:46:58.400
my thoughts. Okay? So that was an aha moment. So...
844
00:46:58.699 --> 00:47:02.639
So then recently, not recently, I had a UFO come
845
00:47:02.699 --> 00:47:05.099
over my house like four weeks in a row. I
846
00:47:05.179 --> 00:47:06.880
filmed it. I got all kinds of video of it.
847
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.900
It always came at eight o'clock at night. Okay. One
848
00:47:10.980 --> 00:47:14.179
morning I'm going to work 4.30 in the morning and
849
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.019
it's out there. And the little voice in my head says,
850
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.760
look up. And I see it and I'm like, oh no, man,
851
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:21.739
it's way too early for you. I ain't got the
852
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.739
time for this nonsense. I got to go to work.
853
00:47:24.300 --> 00:47:29.599
And the voice says, stop. Film this. It's important. So
854
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.679
I take my camera and I'm filming it. And the
855
00:47:32.739 --> 00:47:38.760
voice says, ask it to acknowledge you, but ask it telepathically.
856
00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:42.690
And when I did, it flashed me. And what looked
857
00:47:42.710 --> 00:47:46.250
like a flash on my camera, when I slowed it
858
00:47:46.309 --> 00:47:50.150
down and I watched it over, the craft actually got
859
00:47:50.409 --> 00:47:55.340
like 10 times its normal size and then shrunk back down. Okay?
860
00:47:55.900 --> 00:47:59.530
So now, the UFO, the aliens can hear my thoughts.
861
00:48:00.369 --> 00:48:03.530
I'm in the woods and the thought comes to me,
862
00:48:03.570 --> 00:48:05.230
I wonder if the dog man is still in the
863
00:48:05.309 --> 00:48:08.769
den and the dog man goes off. So that means
864
00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:12.300
the dog man can hear my thoughts. So all three
865
00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:17.079
of these things can hear our thoughts telepathically. And that
866
00:48:17.099 --> 00:48:20.239
was an aha moment for me, you know? Yeah.
867
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.139
That is something that I've heard multiple times of like
868
00:48:24.179 --> 00:48:27.699
this mind speak almost in a way that, that, you know,
869
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.500
it's not like they're just talking to you, but they're
870
00:48:29.579 --> 00:48:33.159
also receiving back. So they, though you're reading your thoughts,
871
00:48:33.219 --> 00:48:36.199
it's kind of like, it's like you were speaking and
872
00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:39.880
they can hear that. And yeah, it's not, you're not
873
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.679
the only person to say that. Now, this craft that
874
00:48:42.739 --> 00:48:47.559
was buzzing your place, we'll say, this UFO, what did
875
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.360
that look like? And how long did that last for?
876
00:48:50.380 --> 00:48:52.989
You said it was around for a while. Was it
877
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.590
saucer shape? Was it just an orb? Or how would
878
00:48:56.610 --> 00:48:57.329
you describe that?
879
00:48:58.349 --> 00:49:02.239
Okay i my wife was the one who noticed it
880
00:49:02.420 --> 00:49:04.679
one night she was closing the curtains and she's seen
881
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:06.719
something outside and she said what the hell is that
882
00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:09.360
look how low that is and i looked up at
883
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.480
you know the night sky and said oh it's venus
884
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.269
don't worry about it you know and i didn't think
885
00:49:15.329 --> 00:49:17.630
anything of it and then like a half hour later
886
00:49:17.630 --> 00:49:19.989
my wife's like, it's still in the same spot. That's
887
00:49:20.050 --> 00:49:23.550
not Venus. So I have, I'm a sky watcher. I
888
00:49:23.590 --> 00:49:26.710
have a telescope. I, you know, I track the stars
889
00:49:26.789 --> 00:49:30.860
and everything, you know? I have a star app on
890
00:49:30.889 --> 00:49:33.719
my phone. So I went outside and I put the
891
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:36.460
star app up to the phone to see what planet
892
00:49:36.539 --> 00:49:38.860
it was. And it didn't line up with any of
893
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.980
the planets. So I put up the constellations. It didn't
894
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.420
line up with any of the constellations. So I'm looking
895
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:49.179
at this thing, and it just looks like a bright star,
896
00:49:49.500 --> 00:49:54.559
just a very, very bright star. So that was the
897
00:49:54.619 --> 00:49:56.510
first night it showed up. It showed up again a
898
00:49:56.550 --> 00:50:00.010
week later. The second time, I broke out all my cameras,
899
00:50:00.449 --> 00:50:04.510
the thermal, the infrared, the night vision, and I was
900
00:50:04.590 --> 00:50:08.369
filming it, and it showed up in every spectrum of
901
00:50:08.469 --> 00:50:13.269
light except thermal. I don't know why it didn't show
902
00:50:13.329 --> 00:50:15.809
up in the thermal. It showed up in the UV,
903
00:50:16.010 --> 00:50:18.389
showed up in the IR. It even showed up on
904
00:50:18.429 --> 00:50:21.449
my cell phone on a low light. You know what
905
00:50:21.489 --> 00:50:24.050
I mean? But it didn't show up in thermal, which
906
00:50:24.110 --> 00:50:26.409
blew my mind. I couldn't understand. You know, that was
907
00:50:26.469 --> 00:50:31.730
something that, again, says something else that's in the night sky.
908
00:50:31.750 --> 00:50:34.190
It's putting off all this light, but it's not putting
909
00:50:34.210 --> 00:50:37.150
off any heat. So then it came back again a
910
00:50:37.469 --> 00:50:42.239
third time. The third time it came back, it was
911
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.230
very weird. I'm looking up at it. And it was
912
00:50:46.409 --> 00:50:49.289
actually earlier in the night because it was still daytime out.
913
00:50:49.730 --> 00:50:52.210
So it wasn't quite dark yet. And I was looking
914
00:50:52.349 --> 00:50:55.449
at it. And it was there. And it was there
915
00:50:55.469 --> 00:50:59.780
in the sky, on the western sky. And I was
916
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:04.719
watching it. And I was filming it. And all of
917
00:51:04.780 --> 00:51:08.260
a sudden, I did like a Morse code in my flashlight, right?
918
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.579
I have a tendency of doing that and getting a
919
00:51:11.659 --> 00:51:15.360
lot of good results with it. So I did a
920
00:51:15.380 --> 00:51:18.579
Morse code with my flashlight and it started to come
921
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.960
towards me. Okay, I'm filming, it's coming towards me. Then
922
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:28.119
all of a sudden, it's not there anymore. And it's
923
00:51:28.179 --> 00:51:31.860
a Cessna airplane. And you can hear a Cessna airplane.
924
00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:34.079
They're like a crop duster, you know what I mean?
925
00:51:34.820 --> 00:51:38.340
And I'm like, and the Cessna is flying over my house.
926
00:51:39.579 --> 00:51:45.409
And I got my tactical flashlight doing an SOS. And
927
00:51:45.469 --> 00:51:49.849
I'm like, what happened to the UFO? Did the UFO
928
00:51:49.909 --> 00:51:54.530
turn into the plane? I mean, the plane wasn't in
929
00:51:54.590 --> 00:51:58.070
the sky when I originally started doing the filming and
930
00:51:58.110 --> 00:52:01.480
the SOS with it. But then as it started to
931
00:52:01.539 --> 00:52:04.340
come to me, and now I'm thinking, well, if it
932
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:09.150
was really assessing the airplanes, And I'm doing an SOS.
933
00:52:09.789 --> 00:52:13.340
I'm expecting the sheriff or the state police to knock
934
00:52:13.389 --> 00:52:15.559
on my door to ask me what the hell's going on,
935
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.139
you know? And no one ever came to the house
936
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.079
to ask me what was going on. And that was
937
00:52:23.139 --> 00:52:26.219
just very, very strange. And then the last time it came,
938
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:28.440
it was in that morning when it actually flew. I
939
00:52:28.460 --> 00:52:33.179
got the video of it. Man, it's an amazing video, too. Wow.
940
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.250
I'd love to see that. I'd love to see that. Okay, so.
941
00:52:37.269 --> 00:52:40.789
I know, this was supposed to be a Dogman show, but.
942
00:52:41.250 --> 00:52:44.150
I know, I know. I said Dogman because Dogman is
943
00:52:44.170 --> 00:52:47.210
so interesting, but it really doesn't bother me that we're going...
944
00:52:47.050 --> 00:52:49.650
Because personally, I think it's all connected. Personally, I think
945
00:52:49.730 --> 00:52:54.300
that everything kind of is... It's a little puzzle of
946
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.340
one bigger puzzle is what it is. We're finding all
947
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.679
these little pieces. Now, where do you want to go
948
00:52:59.699 --> 00:53:02.780
from here? What other experiences have you had? Is there...
949
00:53:03.380 --> 00:53:06.860
It sounds like you just got so many, but What
950
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:09.739
is one that really stands out to you, be it
951
00:53:09.900 --> 00:53:12.840
a Sasquatch, Bigfoot, or anything else, even paranormal?
952
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:17.369
Well, the one I had when I was a kid
953
00:53:17.429 --> 00:53:20.710
down in South Florida. The first time I had my
954
00:53:20.829 --> 00:53:21.989
UFO experience.
955
00:53:22.090 --> 00:53:23.289
Is that the one with the skunk ape?
956
00:53:23.690 --> 00:53:27.610
The skunk ape, yeah, with the skunk ape. That was
957
00:53:27.750 --> 00:53:32.860
really a horrific kind of experience, you know what I mean?
958
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.909
Because I'm 12 years old. I get sent down to
959
00:53:36.969 --> 00:53:39.659
Florida every year. It's like my summer camp. Me and
960
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.960
my cousin go down there. My brother-in-law's got dirt bikes
961
00:53:43.059 --> 00:53:46.139
for us. We do work around the house. We paint.
962
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:49.599
We popcorn ceiling. We cut grass. We build planters for
963
00:53:49.619 --> 00:53:53.260
my sister. We do all kinds of crap. But in
964
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.329
the afternoon, we get to ride the dirt bikes in
965
00:53:55.369 --> 00:53:57.849
the woods or take the guns out and go into
966
00:53:57.869 --> 00:54:01.070
the woods and shoot. Because down in South Florida in
967
00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:04.449
1974 was a cowboy town. Everybody had guns on the
968
00:54:04.489 --> 00:54:08.239
back of their pickup trucks. You know, so nobody thought
969
00:54:08.300 --> 00:54:11.889
anything about hearing guns going off in the woods. And
970
00:54:11.969 --> 00:54:16.230
so one night my cousin and I are hanging out late,
971
00:54:16.230 --> 00:54:18.750
12 o'clock at night. My sister has two big German
972
00:54:18.789 --> 00:54:23.869
Shepherds and the dogs start going crazy. You know, it's
973
00:54:23.889 --> 00:54:26.110
like one o'clock in the morning and the dogs start
974
00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:29.199
going crazy. And we're watching wrestling. You know, me and
975
00:54:29.219 --> 00:54:32.340
my cousin are watching wrestling. So we're like jumping around
976
00:54:32.380 --> 00:54:36.190
off the couch and stuff. And the dogs are going crazy.
977
00:54:36.530 --> 00:54:38.110
And I grabbed the dogs and I put them in
978
00:54:38.130 --> 00:54:43.289
the garage. And we smelled like the worst smelling smell.
979
00:54:43.829 --> 00:54:49.489
It's so hard to describe the smell that these creatures
980
00:54:49.590 --> 00:54:53.260
put off. And I believe it's a warning. That's what
981
00:54:53.300 --> 00:54:56.219
they're doing. When you smell them, they're giving you a
982
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:01.309
warning to stay away. Because it must have heard the
983
00:55:01.369 --> 00:55:07.070
dogs and was warning the dogs to stay inside. We
984
00:55:07.110 --> 00:55:09.230
didn't know what the hell it was. The next morning
985
00:55:09.269 --> 00:55:11.429
we get up, we tell everybody sitting around the house
986
00:55:11.530 --> 00:55:14.030
in the morning having breakfast. And I tell my sister,
987
00:55:14.050 --> 00:55:17.230
my brother-in-law, yeah, man, last night dogs went crazy around
988
00:55:17.289 --> 00:55:19.429
one o'clock. We had to put them in the garage.
989
00:55:19.449 --> 00:55:22.489
It's horrible smell. And my brother-in-law says, oh, it must
990
00:55:22.510 --> 00:55:25.139
have been a skunk ape. And we're like, what's a skunk?
991
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.400
And he's telling us about a skunk ape that's Florida's
992
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.079
version of Bigfoot. Now, me and my cousin, we're from
993
00:55:31.099 --> 00:55:33.050
the city. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we're
994
00:55:33.070 --> 00:55:35.989
not buying this, man. You know, you're pulling our chain.
995
00:55:36.070 --> 00:55:38.170
You know, there's no such thing as a skunk ape.
996
00:55:38.610 --> 00:55:42.590
Everybody knows Bigfoot's in the Pacific Northwest. You know, who
997
00:55:42.610 --> 00:55:44.019
are you trying to fool, right?
998
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:48.619
Who the hell is a skunk ape guy?
999
00:55:48.659 --> 00:55:52.440
Right, so... After we finish our chores, we meet all
1000
00:55:52.500 --> 00:55:54.860
our neighbors, all the neighbors in the woods, because that's
1001
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.519
where we jumped our bikes. And there was a horse
1002
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:01.030
rancher that used to let us shovel shit to get
1003
00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.809
money to buy beer, you know, or sometimes we would
1004
00:56:03.829 --> 00:56:06.230
take tours out in the swamp. Horses knew where they
1005
00:56:06.250 --> 00:56:10.469
were going, you know. And so we get out there
1006
00:56:10.489 --> 00:56:11.909
and we tell them all the neighbors, you know, we
1007
00:56:11.929 --> 00:56:13.469
tell the guys we hang out because we go down
1008
00:56:13.530 --> 00:56:15.909
every year. We know all these guys and we're telling
1009
00:56:15.949 --> 00:56:18.829
them like, oh, yeah, skunk ape comes around times like
1010
00:56:18.889 --> 00:56:21.610
this when it's really, really hot. And this year it's
1011
00:56:21.690 --> 00:56:25.150
really hot. We have a drought. There's fires in the Everglades.
1012
00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:31.409
And the skunk ape is around. And, you know, we're like,
1013
00:56:31.860 --> 00:56:34.219
are you serious? And they're like, yeah, it's no big deal,
1014
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.639
you know. And where my sister lived was a square,
1015
00:56:37.699 --> 00:56:41.980
was an island surrounded by canals. And it was one
1016
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.179
lane bridge going in and one lane bridge coming out.
1017
00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:47.599
There was a horse rancher right at the beginning of
1018
00:56:47.659 --> 00:56:50.849
the development. It's called Sunshine Acres. And there was a
1019
00:56:50.869 --> 00:56:55.349
cattle ranch towards the back of the development. Okay. I
1020
00:56:55.449 --> 00:56:58.530
used to jog at development because it was, like I said,
1021
00:56:58.570 --> 00:57:02.179
it was like a two mile all the way around.
1022
00:57:02.530 --> 00:57:05.639
And I would jog because I was into martial arts
1023
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.480
and everything. And my cousin Anthony was a weightlifter and
1024
00:57:08.500 --> 00:57:10.099
he would just stay in the garage and work out.
1025
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.440
But I would, you know, exercise more isometrics and stuff
1026
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:25.670
like that. And so one night, We're watching, oh, we're watching.
1027
00:57:25.730 --> 00:57:27.809
It's late again. It's like two o'clock in the morning.
1028
00:57:28.210 --> 00:57:30.250
And at one o'clock in the morning, this show used
1029
00:57:30.289 --> 00:57:33.769
to come on. It was called Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, right?
1030
00:57:34.230 --> 00:57:35.710
And it would come on at one. It would go
1031
00:57:35.750 --> 00:57:37.889
from one to two. So me and my cousin are
1032
00:57:37.929 --> 00:57:42.340
watching Don Kirshner's Rock Concert. And we shut the TV off.
1033
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.940
It's like two o'clock in the morning. The dogs are
1034
00:57:44.980 --> 00:57:48.469
just laying around the house, chillin'. We go to bed. Now,
1035
00:57:48.530 --> 00:57:51.610
where we were sleeping, we were sleeping in my sister's sunroom.
1036
00:57:51.929 --> 00:57:54.550
She had a queen-size pull-out bed. And she had a
1037
00:57:54.710 --> 00:57:57.449
giant picture window. It was big. It was like eight
1038
00:57:57.530 --> 00:58:00.250
feet long by four feet high or maybe six feet.
1039
00:58:00.289 --> 00:58:03.769
Who knows? And we're sitting in this room, laying in
1040
00:58:03.789 --> 00:58:06.090
this room. We just laid down on the bed. And
1041
00:58:06.110 --> 00:58:08.309
the sensor lights in the front of the house go on.
1042
00:58:09.369 --> 00:58:13.110
And the dogs jump up and they start going ballistic. Now,
1043
00:58:13.139 --> 00:58:16.719
my brother-in-law, owned a restaurant, he would get home late
1044
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.500
at night and he didn't want to hear any noise
1045
00:58:21.860 --> 00:58:24.440
from us or the dogs. He didn't even play any games,
1046
00:58:24.500 --> 00:58:26.960
he was an ex-Marine. So if the dogs started barking,
1047
00:58:26.980 --> 00:58:29.239
I had to put them in the garage. So anyway,
1048
00:58:29.300 --> 00:58:32.260
we're laying in bed, the dogs are barking and we
1049
00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:37.260
see this giant shadow come across our wall in front
1050
00:58:37.300 --> 00:58:39.639
of us. We don't know what the hell it is.
1051
00:58:40.219 --> 00:58:42.320
I get the dogs, I run them into the garage
1052
00:58:42.969 --> 00:58:45.949
I come back and I see this giant shadow against
1053
00:58:46.369 --> 00:58:48.590
the curtain that you pull down, the white shade or
1054
00:58:48.630 --> 00:58:50.869
whatever the hell it's called, right? The white shade we
1055
00:58:50.889 --> 00:58:53.500
pulled down, there's a giant silhouette on it. I see
1056
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.880
this giant silhouette. So I go into my army man crawl,
1057
00:58:56.940 --> 00:58:59.880
I crawl to the window and I pull open the
1058
00:58:59.940 --> 00:59:02.239
shade just like, or you can just see my eyes
1059
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.130
sticking out of it. And in the middle of the driveway,
1060
00:59:05.170 --> 00:59:08.449
my sister's house had a six foot fence that went
1061
00:59:08.489 --> 00:59:10.480
around the whole house from the front of the house
1062
00:59:10.539 --> 00:59:12.880
to the back. The only thing that was open was
1063
00:59:12.900 --> 00:59:15.519
the front yard, a circular driveway, where she had a
1064
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:21.070
big fountain, right? And there's this thing standing in the
1065
00:59:21.110 --> 00:59:24.210
middle of the driveway, the sensor lights are on, and
1066
00:59:24.250 --> 00:59:27.510
it's looking, I thought it was looking at me. it
1067
00:59:27.550 --> 00:59:31.510
was probably looking at its reflection in the glass and
1068
00:59:31.570 --> 00:59:34.030
it looks at, I guess it looks at its reflection
1069
00:59:34.070 --> 00:59:37.590
thinking it's another skunk ape. And it does this incredible
1070
00:59:37.690 --> 00:59:41.989
Hulk kind of scream and he's flexing and his teeth
1071
00:59:42.030 --> 00:59:45.010
that you can see his canines and his eyes are red.
1072
00:59:45.670 --> 00:59:48.309
And I'm thinking, Holy crap, there's a monster in the
1073
00:59:48.369 --> 00:59:51.679
front yard, you know? Um, I don't know if his
1074
00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:54.480
eyes were red from the lights being on it or
1075
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:56.719
if it was just red because that's what they were.
1076
00:59:57.099 --> 00:59:59.139
I couldn't tell you to be honest with you. But
1077
00:59:59.179 --> 01:00:02.860
this thing is, and I'm like, I'm telling my cousin Anthony, yo, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1078
01:00:02.889 --> 01:00:04.590
get up, get up, get up. You gotta see this thing,
1079
01:00:04.630 --> 01:00:07.050
you know? And my cousin Anthony doesn't want to get up.
1080
01:00:07.610 --> 01:00:10.590
And it starts to walk around the right side, the
1081
01:00:10.650 --> 01:00:12.469
left side of the house, if you're looking at the house,
1082
01:00:12.929 --> 01:00:17.130
because next to our house was an empty field. There
1083
01:00:17.150 --> 01:00:19.409
weren't a lot of homes built in the back of
1084
01:00:19.429 --> 01:00:23.019
the development. Most of them were built up front. And
1085
01:00:23.059 --> 01:00:25.219
there was an empty field next to us. So I
1086
01:00:25.420 --> 01:00:27.159
pulled my cousin Anthony out of the bed and said,
1087
01:00:27.179 --> 01:00:29.050
come on, come on, let's go into the bathroom on
1088
01:00:29.070 --> 01:00:31.389
the side of the house to see what this thing
1089
01:00:31.489 --> 01:00:34.130
is as it walks past the fence. Because I know
1090
01:00:34.190 --> 01:00:36.849
the fence line from the bathroom window to the fence
1091
01:00:36.869 --> 01:00:39.820
line is only about 15 feet, you know. I want
1092
01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:42.139
to get a good look at it. I mean, a
1093
01:00:42.179 --> 01:00:44.179
better look at it because I know when it gets
1094
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:46.619
to that corner of the fence, the sensor lights are
1095
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.079
going to go on over there. So Anthony says, all right,
1096
01:00:49.099 --> 01:00:51.179
keep the lights off in the banter so it's dark
1097
01:00:51.260 --> 01:00:55.099
and can't see us. The windows are tinted black. There's
1098
01:00:55.139 --> 01:00:56.940
a black screen in front of them and we're sitting
1099
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.019
in there and we're looking at this thing. And as
1100
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:02.639
it's walking past the fence line, it's looking at us
1101
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:05.670
like it can see us. And we duck down two
1102
01:01:05.690 --> 01:01:08.170
or three times and we pop back up and it
1103
01:01:08.230 --> 01:01:11.110
stops and it picks up a wild watermelon, takes a
1104
01:01:11.269 --> 01:01:14.929
giant bite out of this wild watermelon, drops the nubs
1105
01:01:15.309 --> 01:01:18.030
and it starts walking towards the back of the property. Now,
1106
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.059
our neighbor to the back of us had a man-made lake.
1107
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.500
We used to swim in it all the time because
1108
01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:26.480
the water was pooling in the water in my sister's pool,
1109
01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:29.900
you know? So I dragged my cousin Anthony out to
1110
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.510
the back patio, which is a screened-in patio in the back.
1111
01:01:33.190 --> 01:01:35.010
And I know when it passes the back of the house,
1112
01:01:35.050 --> 01:01:37.809
the sensor lights are going to go on again. So
1113
01:01:38.030 --> 01:01:41.590
we're in a screened-in patio. It walks by as the
1114
01:01:41.630 --> 01:01:44.110
sensor lights goes on. It walks to the end of
1115
01:01:44.130 --> 01:01:48.070
the property line, squats down by the man-made lake. It
1116
01:01:48.110 --> 01:01:50.750
drinks some water, and then it walks off into the
1117
01:01:50.789 --> 01:01:54.280
swamps where we ride our dirt bike, and it starts screaming.
1118
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:58.099
To high heaven, it just starts screaming. So next morning,
1119
01:01:58.139 --> 01:02:01.599
we tell everybody what happened. Our brother-in-law goes, ah, I
1120
01:02:01.619 --> 01:02:03.780
don't believe any of this stuff. Come on, come on,
1121
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:06.159
we'll show you the watermelon. We go outside to show
1122
01:02:06.179 --> 01:02:09.809
them the watermelon, and it was like an 18-foot footprint
1123
01:02:10.230 --> 01:02:12.869
by the fence. Now, I'm thinking this thing was 9
1124
01:02:12.869 --> 01:02:17.329
feet tall, 1,000 pounds, because it was head and shoulders long.
1125
01:02:17.809 --> 01:02:21.469
above a six-foot fence, you know? So it had to
1126
01:02:21.510 --> 01:02:23.869
be between eight and nine feet tall. And so we
1127
01:02:23.889 --> 01:02:27.369
see this giant footprint. We measure it. My brother-in-law says, okay,
1128
01:02:27.429 --> 01:02:30.130
I'm going to come back. I'm going to cast it.
1129
01:02:30.409 --> 01:02:33.449
I'm going to put two footprints, one in the bar
1130
01:02:33.489 --> 01:02:35.829
in the house, one in the bar at the restaurant, right?
1131
01:02:36.909 --> 01:02:40.219
He never comes back. The horse rancher comes, the horse
1132
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:44.199
rancher comes, The horse rancher never comes. The horse rancher
1133
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.860
comes by. They used to drive by our property, ride
1134
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:49.389
by our property all the time. Destroyed the footprints. We
1135
01:02:49.409 --> 01:02:54.269
never got any footprints. Casted the footprints. So now, we
1136
01:02:55.630 --> 01:02:58.750
never did. We never got them. And then, so now
1137
01:02:58.769 --> 01:03:01.159
a couple of nights go by. What my brother-in-law used
1138
01:03:01.219 --> 01:03:04.300
to do is whenever they burnt a bunch of pizzas
1139
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.579
at the restaurant, he would bring them home and give
1140
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:10.199
them to me and my cousin as a midnight snack,
1141
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:13.059
you know? We were from New York. We liked our pizza.
1142
01:03:13.099 --> 01:03:16.380
Well done. You know what I mean? South Austin was perfect.
1143
01:03:16.820 --> 01:03:20.239
So we're sitting in the back patio. It's like 1230
1144
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.519
at night. We're sitting in the back patio. My sister
1145
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.840
comes out of the bedroom because she has a sliding
1146
01:03:25.860 --> 01:03:29.119
glass door from the patio to the patio. And we're
1147
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:32.260
all sitting outside and we're talking and we're eating pizza
1148
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:34.699
at 1230 at night. All three, all four of us.
1149
01:03:35.949 --> 01:03:40.909
When we hear gunshots coming from the horse ranch's farms
1150
01:03:41.849 --> 01:03:43.489
So we all run to the front of the house
1151
01:03:43.530 --> 01:03:46.670
and you can see the muzzle flashes, bang, bang, bang.
1152
01:03:47.230 --> 01:03:50.969
And you know that's a dirty, dirty going off, right?
1153
01:03:52.340 --> 01:03:55.429
So my brother says, jump on your dirt bikes, go
1154
01:03:55.489 --> 01:03:58.079
down there, see what's going on. We jump on our
1155
01:03:58.139 --> 01:04:01.019
dirt bikes and we run across all the neighbor's lawns.
1156
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.460
We tore up all kinds of lawns to get up there.
1157
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:05.820
We don't have any lights on our bikes. We're driving
1158
01:04:05.860 --> 01:04:09.219
in the dark. We're like two, you know, daredevils just
1159
01:04:09.300 --> 01:04:12.679
flying down the road. No helmets, no nothing. in the dark,
1160
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.940
but you get down to the horse rancher's house. Not all,
1161
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.530
originally my sister's house, her first house, which was like
1162
01:04:19.550 --> 01:04:22.349
the greenhouse, was right across the street from the horse rancher.
1163
01:04:22.389 --> 01:04:25.110
So that's how we got to know his son, you know?
1164
01:04:25.690 --> 01:04:28.110
So we get down there, we see his son and
1165
01:04:28.130 --> 01:04:30.030
we're like, hey, Billy, or whatever his name was, what's
1166
01:04:30.090 --> 01:04:32.699
going on? And he said, the skunk ape, the skunk
1167
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:35.480
ape tried to get my father's horse. Now this guy
1168
01:04:35.539 --> 01:04:38.559
had just bought a horse from like Montana or Wyoming
1169
01:04:39.340 --> 01:04:42.300
and it was a wild horse. And he couldn't put
1170
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:44.500
him in the stalls with the other horses because it
1171
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.539
would kick and made all the other horses nervous. So
1172
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:49.199
he would leave him out in the corral at night.
1173
01:04:49.539 --> 01:04:52.079
And in the morning, a Native American Seminole Indian would
1174
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:57.119
come to work him. Okay, well, apparently this creature snuck
1175
01:04:57.260 --> 01:05:01.710
up on this horse and grabbed it by its hindquarters, okay?
1176
01:05:02.510 --> 01:05:05.210
And the horse must have kicked the creature in the chest,
1177
01:05:05.869 --> 01:05:10.199
jumped over the corral fence, and ran out to the pasture. Now,
1178
01:05:10.219 --> 01:05:14.699
the pasture was humongous, okay? And all the commotion, but
1179
01:05:14.739 --> 01:05:17.099
the rancher comes out with the gun. He's shooting at
1180
01:05:17.139 --> 01:05:20.679
the creature. The creature runs off into the swamp. The
1181
01:05:21.019 --> 01:05:24.659
sheriff comes. Everybody comes. All the neighbors are out there.
1182
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.969
The whole neighborhood is out there, you know? Everybody's talking.
1183
01:05:27.989 --> 01:05:30.730
So the sheriff says, okay, we're going to start picking
1184
01:05:30.769 --> 01:05:33.750
up the patrols out here because you guys, are right on,
1185
01:05:34.030 --> 01:05:36.889
right on, let's put it this way, they built this
1186
01:05:36.949 --> 01:05:41.889
development in the Everglades, you know? So, said, well, we'll start,
1187
01:05:41.909 --> 01:05:43.650
we'll pick it up, the patrol. Now, you gotta understand,
1188
01:05:43.949 --> 01:05:48.050
this town, this town, Davie, it's a tiny town. The
1189
01:05:48.250 --> 01:05:51.269
only thing that comes through there is the rodeo on
1190
01:05:51.289 --> 01:05:55.409
the 4th of July. That's it. Dirt roads, no sidewalks,
1191
01:05:55.829 --> 01:05:58.750
two cops, the sheriff and the deputy, that's it, right? So...
1192
01:06:00.699 --> 01:06:02.340
He says, yeah, we're going to pick up the patrols
1193
01:06:02.380 --> 01:06:05.760
around here, you know, because you guys are on the outskirts. Okay. Now,
1194
01:06:05.860 --> 01:06:09.340
we go by, nothing happens. I'm doing my thing. Now,
1195
01:06:09.539 --> 01:06:12.400
the horse, the cattle rancher who lived up the street
1196
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.440
from us, he had a white Brahma bull, like a
1197
01:06:15.500 --> 01:06:18.820
hump on its back and everything, right? And this bull
1198
01:06:19.619 --> 01:06:23.409
was the size, this bull was the size of a minivan.
1199
01:06:23.750 --> 01:06:26.309
If it was, I mean, that's how big it was, right?
1200
01:06:26.630 --> 01:06:30.300
A Volkswagen bug. This thing was huge, okay? And I
1201
01:06:30.340 --> 01:06:33.940
remember asking the cowboys at the rodeo, you know, what's
1202
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.179
the worst bull to draw? And they always said, Brahma.
1203
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:39.360
Brahma bulls are ornery. You know, if you draw a
1204
01:06:39.380 --> 01:06:42.800
Brahma bull, you're in trouble. So I used to run
1205
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.250
past this Brahma bull's property every single day when I
1206
01:06:46.289 --> 01:06:49.110
was jogging. And the bull would always just look at me,
1207
01:06:49.250 --> 01:06:52.969
just look at me, run. And the lady down the
1208
01:06:53.010 --> 01:06:55.929
street from me had a St. Bernard. And the dog
1209
01:06:55.949 --> 01:06:58.349
would go absolutely insane when I ran by the house.
1210
01:06:58.860 --> 01:07:00.219
But he couldn't get over the fence because he was
1211
01:07:00.260 --> 01:07:03.420
too big. One day, I happened to be jogging by
1212
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.579
the house. The lady's coming home. She turns the corner.
1213
01:07:06.900 --> 01:07:10.010
She hits the automatic fence gate. The gate opens up
1214
01:07:10.070 --> 01:07:13.789
and the dog comes out. And the dog is chasing
1215
01:07:13.809 --> 01:07:17.750
me now. Now, Florida is flat. There's no trees. There's
1216
01:07:17.809 --> 01:07:20.170
no nothing. You can't jump up and climb up a
1217
01:07:20.230 --> 01:07:23.389
tree or anything. I'm running for my life. And this
1218
01:07:23.469 --> 01:07:26.699
beast is gaining on me. And the lady's screaming to
1219
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.070
the dog to stop. And I keep looking over my shoulder.
1220
01:07:30.389 --> 01:07:33.269
The only place I can go is I got to
1221
01:07:33.389 --> 01:07:36.710
dive over this four foot fence into this pasture with
1222
01:07:36.730 --> 01:07:40.190
the Brahma bull. OK, that's the only place I can go.
1223
01:07:40.869 --> 01:07:43.949
So I dive over this fence. I do a tuck
1224
01:07:44.010 --> 01:07:47.409
and roll. I get up and the Brahma bull is
1225
01:07:47.429 --> 01:07:50.880
looking at me. OK, the dog jumps up against the
1226
01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:53.679
fence and he's barking. He's got all kinds of slobber
1227
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:55.840
coming out of his mouth. Now the Brahma bull is
1228
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.860
looking at the dog. I'm working my way out the
1229
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.139
front gate between all the cows because I'm using the
1230
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:05.230
cows as shields. You know what I mean? I get
1231
01:08:05.250 --> 01:08:07.230
to the front gate and the farmer's there. And he's like,
1232
01:08:07.250 --> 01:08:09.449
what the hell are you doing in my pasture? You know,
1233
01:08:09.469 --> 01:08:10.949
you could have got killed. And I was like, the
1234
01:08:11.010 --> 01:08:13.170
damn dog chased me. I had no place to go,
1235
01:08:13.250 --> 01:08:15.949
you know? And finally the dog, the lady gets the
1236
01:08:15.969 --> 01:08:17.789
dog to go back to the house. But I had
1237
01:08:17.810 --> 01:08:20.800
an up and close personal visit with the Brahma bull.
1238
01:08:21.109 --> 01:08:28.970
And this bull is humongous. Okay. where he goes by, oh,
1239
01:08:29.029 --> 01:08:32.310
the next day, the Native American comes, goes out to
1240
01:08:32.329 --> 01:08:35.439
the pasture to get the horse, brings it back. And
1241
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.319
on the horse's hindquarters, he's got finger marks on him.
1242
01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:41.760
Like if I was to grab you by your wrist
1243
01:08:41.779 --> 01:08:45.859
and squeeze and leave that indentation on your skin, that's
1244
01:08:45.899 --> 01:08:51.760
what was on the horse's back hindquarters, finger marks, huge
1245
01:08:51.859 --> 01:08:56.060
finger marks, not claw marks, finger marks. So a couple
1246
01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:58.779
of weeks go by, it's pretty quiet, Fourth of July
1247
01:08:58.819 --> 01:09:05.739
comes and goes. And my brother-in-law has friends flying down
1248
01:09:05.779 --> 01:09:08.180
from New York. He's taking them out for a night
1249
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:10.359
out in Miami for a little strip, wherever the hell
1250
01:09:10.380 --> 01:09:12.869
they went. I think they went to the Four Seasons
1251
01:09:12.930 --> 01:09:17.289
in Miami for dinner and dancing. And he says, okay, listen,
1252
01:09:17.770 --> 01:09:20.279
you know where the guns are. Keep the dogs in
1253
01:09:20.310 --> 01:09:22.529
the house. If anything happens, you know what I mean?
1254
01:09:22.869 --> 01:09:25.750
Don't be afraid to use the guns. I'm like, yeah, no,
1255
01:09:25.770 --> 01:09:28.090
we shoot the guns every day. We know how to
1256
01:09:28.170 --> 01:09:32.880
use these guns, you know? So it's a pretty quiet night.
1257
01:09:33.180 --> 01:09:37.239
They roll in around 2 in the morning. Pretty quiet night.
1258
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:40.579
Of course, they pull into the driveway. The dogs run
1259
01:09:40.619 --> 01:09:43.130
up to the front door barking and everything. So I
1260
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.250
got to let the dogs out to go meet them.
1261
01:09:45.939 --> 01:09:47.760
The dogs go and run out. They jump on all
1262
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:50.159
over my sister. And my brother-in-law's got a brand new
1263
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:55.729
Lincoln Continental, like Mark IV or something, beautiful car. And
1264
01:09:55.750 --> 01:09:59.170
we're all standing around the car talking. And my brother-in-law says,
1265
01:09:59.289 --> 01:10:02.229
any action tonight? And we're like, nah, pretty quiet night.
1266
01:10:02.869 --> 01:10:06.609
No sooner did I say that, we hear this most
1267
01:10:06.850 --> 01:10:11.579
horrific scream you could ever hear in your life. I mean,
1268
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:15.149
it was terrifying. Blood chilling. I mean, it sends chills
1269
01:10:15.220 --> 01:10:18.600
down your spine. My sister grabbed both dogs by the
1270
01:10:18.659 --> 01:10:22.680
collar and ran into the house. She was so scared, right?
1271
01:10:22.699 --> 01:10:24.939
My brother-in-law was like, what the hell is that? We
1272
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:30.060
all look towards the cattle ranch's farm because that's where
1273
01:10:30.100 --> 01:10:32.470
we heard it come from. All of a sudden, you
1274
01:10:32.510 --> 01:10:37.890
see a double-barrel shotgun go off. Bada-boom. Two barrels, okay?
1275
01:10:38.289 --> 01:10:40.109
So my brother-in-law says, jump in the car. Let's go
1276
01:10:40.170 --> 01:10:42.859
see what's going on. So we jump in the car.
1277
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.409
My cousin Anthony calls shotgun. He gets in the front seat.
1278
01:10:45.449 --> 01:10:47.970
I jump in the back. I tell my brother-in-law, I said, Joe,
1279
01:10:48.489 --> 01:10:50.470
open the sunroof. I'll hang out the sunroof. I want
1280
01:10:50.489 --> 01:10:52.689
to get a better look, you know? So I'm hanging
1281
01:10:52.729 --> 01:10:57.069
out the sunroof. As we get to our corner, the
1282
01:10:57.529 --> 01:11:00.779
deputy's coming down on patrol. He's going like two miles
1283
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:03.600
an hour. We get stuck behind the deputy. And he's
1284
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.420
got his floodlight to the left because that's where the
1285
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:09.199
swamp is. And he's looking for the skunk ape in
1286
01:11:09.229 --> 01:11:12.060
the swamp. And all the way at the other end
1287
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:15.199
of the development, you could see another car coming around
1288
01:11:15.220 --> 01:11:17.899
the corner, like doing a patrol. So we've just assumed
1289
01:11:17.979 --> 01:11:22.159
it was the sheriff. Anyway, everybody's looking to the left.
1290
01:11:23.020 --> 01:11:25.560
The skunk gate comes running out of the darkness from
1291
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:29.520
the right. And the deputy hits him. And his car
1292
01:11:29.939 --> 01:11:32.979
hit this thing like it hit a... What?
1293
01:11:33.619 --> 01:11:34.460
Hits him with his car?
1294
01:11:34.500 --> 01:11:38.920
Like he hit an oak tree. This thing, the car
1295
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:44.930
stops dead. The thing stumbles back, takes down a school
1296
01:11:44.970 --> 01:11:48.350
bus sign. Now, these school bus signs are supposed to
1297
01:11:48.390 --> 01:11:51.899
be able to handle 150 mile an hour hurricane winds.
1298
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:56.119
They're not supposed to bend. This thing pancakes this sign, okay?
1299
01:11:56.819 --> 01:12:00.979
We're sitting there, and as this thing gets up, it's
1300
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:04.680
limping over to the police car. My brother-in-law hits it
1301
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.279
with the high beams, and we can see the deputy
1302
01:12:07.699 --> 01:12:10.020
sitting in the car with his hands on the steering wheel,
1303
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.699
with the shotgun right there between the passenger and the driver, right?
1304
01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:16.779
He's sitting there and this thing looks down at the
1305
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:22.300
deputy and screams at him. And then with a hammer punch,
1306
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.560
punches the front of the car. When he punches the
1307
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:27.760
front of the car, the back of the car comes
1308
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:31.479
off the ground. We're sitting there and this is all
1309
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:37.279
happening in slow motion for me because I'm outside the sunroof.
1310
01:12:37.939 --> 01:12:40.539
You know what I mean? I'm not sitting behind the
1311
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:45.520
glass window. I'm outside. And this is like slow motion.
1312
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.939
It's surreal. Like it's not really happening. Like it's a dream.
1313
01:12:49.739 --> 01:12:53.460
And it hovels off into the swamp. The sheriff comes
1314
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.720
around the corner, sees the deputy's car all smashed, says,
1315
01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:59.399
what the hell happened? The deputy tells him, he says, well,
1316
01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.699
why didn't you shoot it? You had the shotgun right there.
1317
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:04.350
And he just looked at the sheriff and said, shotgun
1318
01:13:04.390 --> 01:13:08.460
wasn't big enough. He said, it just wasn't big enough. And, um,
1319
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.579
so he's taking our report. He's taking the deputy's report.
1320
01:13:13.060 --> 01:13:16.420
When the cattle rancher comes racing up in his pickup truck.
1321
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.100
And he's like, you got to come back to my ranch.
1322
01:13:19.539 --> 01:13:21.510
You got to see what this damn skunk ape did
1323
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:25.069
to my prize bull. Now I'm saying, what the hell
1324
01:13:25.109 --> 01:13:27.689
could this thing have done to this bull? This bull
1325
01:13:27.729 --> 01:13:33.029
was as big as a minivan. You know, if he weighed, uh,
1326
01:13:33.029 --> 01:13:34.750
2000 pounds, he weighed an ounce. You know what I mean?
1327
01:13:34.770 --> 01:13:39.579
This thing was a monster. And, uh, So the sheriff says, okay.
1328
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.949
And he starts to follow the cattle rancher back. We
1329
01:13:42.989 --> 01:13:45.069
go around the deputy because we're going to, that's where
1330
01:13:45.090 --> 01:13:48.010
we were going anyways, to the cattle rancher's house. Because
1331
01:13:48.029 --> 01:13:50.529
we've seen him, we've seen the shotgun go off. So
1332
01:13:50.569 --> 01:13:53.840
we get there, we get to the pasture where the
1333
01:13:54.699 --> 01:13:57.819
cattle rancher pulls over and the sheriff was panning the pasture.
1334
01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:59.819
And there in the middle of the pasture is this
1335
01:13:59.899 --> 01:14:02.560
white Brahma bull bleeding out with no head.
1336
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:03.140
What?
1337
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.630
Then he pans like another hundred yards. and the head
1338
01:14:08.869 --> 01:14:11.850
is at the other end of the pasture. This creature
1339
01:14:12.090 --> 01:14:15.109
just ripped the head off of this bull and threw
1340
01:14:15.180 --> 01:14:18.699
it away. Now, all I can think of is there
1341
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:22.720
were probably calves in the pasture that night, and the
1342
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.600
skunk ape was going for a calf, and the Brahma
1343
01:14:25.619 --> 01:14:28.439
bull came in to protect its territory, and they got
1344
01:14:28.500 --> 01:14:29.479
into it, you know?
1345
01:14:29.500 --> 01:14:29.579
Yeah.
1346
01:14:30.420 --> 01:14:34.359
Yeah, and then at that point, from that point on,
1347
01:14:34.939 --> 01:14:38.350
they called in the state police. and the county police,
1348
01:14:38.869 --> 01:14:41.189
and there was even a couple little towns next door
1349
01:14:41.670 --> 01:14:43.510
to us that came in, and they came in with
1350
01:14:43.630 --> 01:14:48.069
dogs and horses and helicopters, and they searched the swamps
1351
01:14:48.829 --> 01:14:52.430
all around, and they never found anything. Absolutely nothing.
1352
01:14:53.350 --> 01:14:56.010
That is intense. I am like sitting on the edge
1353
01:14:56.090 --> 01:14:57.890
of my seat listening to this. My stomach is in
1354
01:14:57.949 --> 01:15:03.859
knots listening to you tell this extraordinary experience that you had.
1355
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:04.739
And.
1356
01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:07.859
I was wondering what the buildup was for the Brahma
1357
01:15:07.899 --> 01:15:09.760
bowl and what was going to happen to it. But
1358
01:15:10.539 --> 01:15:13.470
the head was ripped off. Like the amount of force
1359
01:15:13.810 --> 01:15:19.350
and power that that creature has to have is, is
1360
01:15:20.109 --> 01:15:24.149
unheard of. It is just absolutely.
1361
01:15:24.970 --> 01:15:25.430
Crazy.
1362
01:15:25.710 --> 01:15:26.949
It is just crazy.
1363
01:15:27.270 --> 01:15:27.569
Wow.
1364
01:15:28.750 --> 01:15:29.069
Yeah.
1365
01:15:29.130 --> 01:15:32.760
No wonder. If you think about what, If you think
1366
01:15:32.819 --> 01:15:34.800
about what some of these creatures do when they rip
1367
01:15:34.819 --> 01:15:37.479
these trees out of the ground and then they plant
1368
01:15:37.500 --> 01:15:41.720
them back in upside down, the kind of strength you
1369
01:15:41.739 --> 01:15:47.210
would need to do that, it's just mind-boggling. Just mind-boggling. Agreed.
1370
01:15:47.529 --> 01:15:47.949
Agreed.
1371
01:15:48.189 --> 01:15:49.090
Yeah.
1372
01:15:49.789 --> 01:15:52.149
I've seen that in pictures before. Of course, I've never
1373
01:15:52.210 --> 01:15:55.789
experienced that personally myself, but I've seen that in pictures. And,
1374
01:15:56.569 --> 01:15:59.970
you know, you've got to wonder why they're doing that.
1375
01:15:59.989 --> 01:16:02.510
You know, is it a sign of, this is my
1376
01:16:02.590 --> 01:16:06.149
territory or a sign of aggression or what are they
1377
01:16:06.210 --> 01:16:06.970
doing that for?
1378
01:16:07.250 --> 01:16:09.310
What? Yeah.
1379
01:16:09.550 --> 01:16:13.750
That experience is, would definitely mark you for life. I
1380
01:16:13.770 --> 01:16:18.189
would say, you know, the going through that is just crazy.
1381
01:16:19.949 --> 01:16:22.869
Was there any more experiences with any more skunk ape
1382
01:16:22.989 --> 01:16:23.649
or did you ever?
1383
01:16:23.670 --> 01:16:23.750
Yeah.
1384
01:16:26.140 --> 01:16:30.180
Well, one of the kids that I hung around with, he,
1385
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.869
he had a, He thought for sure that the skunk
1386
01:16:32.989 --> 01:16:37.909
apes lived in caverns under the canals, okay? Here we
1387
01:16:37.930 --> 01:16:43.000
go now. The canals are filled with alligators, water moccasins,
1388
01:16:43.100 --> 01:16:46.520
and shit like that, right? These kids from the neighborhood
1389
01:16:47.060 --> 01:16:50.800
would always go swimming in the canals. And they would say,
1390
01:16:50.899 --> 01:16:52.439
you go, why don't you guys come in? I'm like,
1391
01:16:52.500 --> 01:16:54.829
I'm not going in there. Are you out of your mind? Yeah,
1392
01:16:54.850 --> 01:16:56.130
I'm like, they ain't going to Florida to get eaten
1393
01:16:56.149 --> 01:16:58.890
by an alligator. And they would say, no, the alligators
1394
01:16:58.930 --> 01:17:01.840
don't come in to turn around. The water would come in,
1395
01:17:01.979 --> 01:17:04.100
turn around, and go back out. And I go, what
1396
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:07.159
are you talking about? There's fish, there's frogs, there's turtles.
1397
01:17:07.460 --> 01:17:09.680
Of course the alligators are coming in here, you know?
1398
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:13.819
And they're like, no, alligators don't come in here. So
1399
01:17:13.979 --> 01:17:16.800
one day, me and my cousin Anthony are fishing in
1400
01:17:16.819 --> 01:17:20.810
the turnaround, just chilling out, fishing, and an alligator is
1401
01:17:20.859 --> 01:17:23.970
sunning himself, and he's floating in, floating in with the tide.
1402
01:17:24.689 --> 01:17:29.529
When this alligator realized where he was, he literally... ran
1403
01:17:29.770 --> 01:17:31.529
on the top of the water to get out of
1404
01:17:31.569 --> 01:17:34.949
the turnaround, okay? And me and my cousin Anthony, we
1405
01:17:34.970 --> 01:17:38.010
looked at each other like, what the hell was that?
1406
01:17:38.270 --> 01:17:42.720
You know what I mean? And why is the alligator
1407
01:17:42.729 --> 01:17:46.819
afraid to be in the turnaround? So my friend, who
1408
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:50.460
thought for sure that they had caverns in the canals,
1409
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.340
because every time they jumped into the water, they could
1410
01:17:53.380 --> 01:17:57.420
never be found. He started swimming around the turnaround, looking
1411
01:17:57.460 --> 01:18:00.720
for an opening, a cavern. And I told him, I said, dude,
1412
01:18:00.739 --> 01:18:03.119
you're going to end up in an alligator den and
1413
01:18:03.140 --> 01:18:06.979
they're going to get eaten, you know? And he's like, no, no, no.
1414
01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:09.300
And he's going in and out of the cattails and
1415
01:18:09.340 --> 01:18:12.020
he's going down, he's coming up. And at some point
1416
01:18:12.060 --> 01:18:15.229
he finds an opening and he says, listen, I found something.
1417
01:18:15.739 --> 01:18:19.130
I'm going in. If I'm not out in five minutes,
1418
01:18:19.449 --> 01:18:24.229
go get my brothers, okay? I'm like, okay. And he
1419
01:18:24.289 --> 01:18:28.710
dives in and according to him, he swam into the sky.
1420
01:18:29.109 --> 01:18:32.869
canal into this opening and he came out on an
1421
01:18:33.010 --> 01:18:37.000
underground like pond he said and when he came up
1422
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.699
out of the water he said the smell was so
1423
01:18:40.819 --> 01:18:45.409
bad that it was burning his eyes okay and he
1424
01:18:45.489 --> 01:18:49.869
said there were openings under the ground like little caves
1425
01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:53.819
he said he said and uh he comes back out
1426
01:18:54.460 --> 01:18:56.720
and he's bouncing off the wall he's like he's jumping
1427
01:18:56.739 --> 01:18:58.920
i've got to hold him down because he's so excited
1428
01:18:59.500 --> 01:19:02.479
and he's jumping off and he stinks to high heaven
1429
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.250
he smells just like what i smelled that night we
1430
01:19:06.270 --> 01:19:09.100
walked by the house right And I'm like, he goes,
1431
01:19:09.140 --> 01:19:10.739
I found it, I found it, I found it. And
1432
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.119
I was like, what'd you find? He said, I found
1433
01:19:13.149 --> 01:19:16.310
their tag. And what did he call it? He found their,
1434
01:19:16.989 --> 01:19:19.430
I forgot what he called his lair. He goes, I
1435
01:19:19.470 --> 01:19:22.710
found their lair, I found their lair, you know? And
1436
01:19:22.729 --> 01:19:24.590
he goes, but you can't tell anybody. I said, well,
1437
01:19:24.609 --> 01:19:26.909
I'll tell my cousin Anthony. He said, you can't tell anybody.
1438
01:19:27.310 --> 01:19:29.569
He says, because if the cops find out about it,
1439
01:19:29.569 --> 01:19:31.529
they're going to come in here and they're going to
1440
01:19:31.569 --> 01:19:35.060
blow all this stuff up. And we won't have any
1441
01:19:35.100 --> 01:19:37.720
place to go ride our dirt bikes or anything, you know?
1442
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:40.680
And he's like, you can't tell anybody. So I was like,
1443
01:19:41.460 --> 01:19:43.789
so I was like, okay, I won't tell anybody, you know,
1444
01:19:43.829 --> 01:19:46.970
he swore me to secrecy. And I never told anybody, uh,
1445
01:19:47.510 --> 01:19:51.949
about that until I, my brother wrote a book about
1446
01:19:51.989 --> 01:19:55.729
paranormal family friends by Frank Santoriga. And he put this
1447
01:19:55.789 --> 01:19:58.420
story in his book. And that's when I first time
1448
01:19:58.500 --> 01:20:03.479
ever talked about that, you know? And, um, so, uh,
1449
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.460
but I didn't tell my cousin Anthony about it. I
1450
01:20:05.460 --> 01:20:07.920
never told my cousin Anthony about it and everything. And, uh,
1451
01:20:08.310 --> 01:20:10.890
So then I was telling my cousin Anthony, we were
1452
01:20:11.170 --> 01:20:13.670
flying back to New York at the end of August
1453
01:20:14.310 --> 01:20:16.859
to get ready to go back to school. And I said, well,
1454
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:18.279
I can't wait to get back to New York to
1455
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:21.560
tell my brother because he's a parapsychologist, you know? And
1456
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:23.859
my cousin Anthony's like, you can't tell anybody about this.
1457
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:26.100
And I go, what are you talking about? He goes,
1458
01:20:26.659 --> 01:20:30.800
the way my family shows love is by breaking your chops,
1459
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:34.960
you know? And you'll never live it down. He said,
1460
01:20:35.020 --> 01:20:37.100
and if you tell anybody about it, I'm going to
1461
01:20:37.140 --> 01:20:39.479
kick your ass. Now, my cousin Anthony was 15 years old.
1462
01:20:39.819 --> 01:20:42.500
He had a back like this. He was a weightlifter.
1463
01:20:43.140 --> 01:20:45.039
And we used to fight all the time. And I
1464
01:20:45.100 --> 01:20:47.520
really didn't have, really have any desire to fight with him.
1465
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.229
You know what I mean? And I was like, all right,
1466
01:20:50.270 --> 01:20:52.850
I just won't tell anybody. But I told my two
1467
01:20:53.050 --> 01:20:55.430
closest friends, of course, because they knew my cousin too.
1468
01:20:55.970 --> 01:20:57.489
And they weren't going to say nothing to him because
1469
01:20:57.529 --> 01:21:01.159
he would have kicked all three of our asses. But, um, Yeah,
1470
01:21:01.260 --> 01:21:03.479
and then I told my brother this story. He was like, well,
1471
01:21:03.510 --> 01:21:05.829
why didn't you tell me? And I was like, I swore,
1472
01:21:05.850 --> 01:21:09.250
I was swore to secrecy by Anthony, you know, I said,
1473
01:21:09.350 --> 01:21:11.989
and then my sister calls me when we get home
1474
01:21:12.010 --> 01:21:17.800
from Florida, the very, that weekend we got home, the
1475
01:21:17.859 --> 01:21:20.819
good friend of the family who had a horse ranch
1476
01:21:21.060 --> 01:21:24.279
on the other side of the canal from where we lived,
1477
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:30.489
he had something break into his barn, rip the door
1478
01:21:30.590 --> 01:21:33.920
off of his barn, go in and grab a pony.
1479
01:21:34.420 --> 01:21:37.420
So when he heard the commotion, he ran outside with
1480
01:21:37.460 --> 01:21:41.619
a couple of his hired hands, right? And they see
1481
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:45.470
this skunk ape walking away with this pony. And the
1482
01:21:45.989 --> 01:21:48.350
skunk ape must have stepped on a screw or something
1483
01:21:48.550 --> 01:21:51.850
because it was bleeding. So this guy, I think his
1484
01:21:51.890 --> 01:21:55.250
name was Frank, he calls my brother-in-law up and he says, Joe,
1485
01:21:55.310 --> 01:21:58.020
come on over. We're tracking the skunk game. He just
1486
01:21:58.060 --> 01:21:59.859
stole one of my, just took one of my ponies.
1487
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.579
We're going to put it down tonight, you know? So
1488
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.680
these guys all saddled up. They had their guns and
1489
01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:08.779
they went after this thing. And just as they started
1490
01:22:08.979 --> 01:22:11.020
to get close to it and started shooting at it,
1491
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:14.239
it dropped the pony and dove into the canal and
1492
01:22:14.260 --> 01:22:16.729
swam away. By the time they got to the pony,
1493
01:22:16.739 --> 01:22:20.010
the pony's neck was broke. It was already dead, you know?
1494
01:22:22.229 --> 01:22:24.149
And that happened the weekend we left.
1495
01:22:24.970 --> 01:22:25.170
Wow.
1496
01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:30.039
That is intense. It's so much going on with that.
1497
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:32.899
Did it ever, you know, when they started shooting at it,
1498
01:22:34.850 --> 01:22:37.890
did that scare it off enough that it stayed away?
1499
01:22:38.310 --> 01:22:44.189
Or is it still in that area, you know, causing
1500
01:22:44.229 --> 01:22:46.600
havoc when it's hot up?
1501
01:22:46.949 --> 01:22:52.970
Yeah, no. After they shot at it, Frank, I don't
1502
01:22:52.989 --> 01:22:55.699
think Frank had any more issues on his ranch. But
1503
01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:59.100
there was a lot of people in the local towns.
1504
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.279
There was a town right next door. Oh, man. What's
1505
01:23:02.390 --> 01:23:06.989
it called? Sumpton City. I forgot what it's called. Where
1506
01:23:07.069 --> 01:23:13.170
people would call the police saying that there's a tall
1507
01:23:13.250 --> 01:23:16.810
black man peeping Tom looking in my window. And the
1508
01:23:16.869 --> 01:23:20.020
cops would go out to the peeping Tom. And when
1509
01:23:20.029 --> 01:23:22.020
they would get there, of course, they would approach from
1510
01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:26.520
both sides, hit him with a flashlight. And it was
1511
01:23:26.579 --> 01:23:29.529
a skunk ape. As soon as they hit it with
1512
01:23:29.550 --> 01:23:32.189
the flashlight, the skunk ape would run into the canal
1513
01:23:32.210 --> 01:23:36.630
and swim away. And this woman I know, whose uncle
1514
01:23:36.670 --> 01:23:41.260
was one of those cops, she read my report in
1515
01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:47.000
the Skunk Ape Museum website. And she called me up
1516
01:23:47.020 --> 01:23:50.939
because she was part of the BFRO. And she put
1517
01:23:50.979 --> 01:23:55.180
a witness thing together for me on the BFRO. It's
1518
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:59.699
called the 1974 Sunskunk Ape Incident at Sunshine Acres. And
1519
01:23:59.729 --> 01:24:02.310
what she did was she took an area of view
1520
01:24:02.350 --> 01:24:05.170
of Sunshine Acres and she marked out where the horse
1521
01:24:05.229 --> 01:24:09.029
rancher was, where the cattle rancher was, where our house was,
1522
01:24:09.350 --> 01:24:11.930
where the woods we hung out in was. She did
1523
01:24:11.989 --> 01:24:17.210
all this stuff. And then she got all the other
1524
01:24:17.369 --> 01:24:22.859
reports from that summer in the newspaper and articles from
1525
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:25.659
all around i think it's dade county or wherever it
1526
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:28.220
was um and she put them at the end of
1527
01:24:28.260 --> 01:24:30.720
my sightings report you know what i mean so if
1528
01:24:30.739 --> 01:24:33.340
you go to my sightings report on the bfro and
1529
01:24:33.380 --> 01:24:36.439
you go to you go past my thing there's like
1530
01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:42.319
50 different newspaper articles about that summer you know and
1531
01:24:42.539 --> 01:24:44.340
uh she really did a great job she went above
1532
01:24:44.420 --> 01:24:46.979
and beyond uh on it and she was a real
1533
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:51.270
sweetheart but um Yeah, I mean, like I said, we
1534
01:24:51.350 --> 01:24:56.079
live in a city called Yonkers. Ten feet across the
1535
01:24:56.119 --> 01:25:00.920
street was the Bronx, okay? There's a park there called
1536
01:25:00.979 --> 01:25:05.079
Van Carlin Park. It's like 1,500 acres. We lived in
1537
01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:08.779
Van Carlin Park. Van Carlin Park had horses. We took
1538
01:25:08.850 --> 01:25:12.789
the horses out riding. We had clubhouses in those woods.
1539
01:25:13.210 --> 01:25:15.909
We had keg parties in those woods. We had all
1540
01:25:15.970 --> 01:25:19.770
kinds of stuff in those woods. For two years, the
1541
01:25:19.810 --> 01:25:22.590
minute it started to get dark, I had to get
1542
01:25:22.670 --> 01:25:24.909
out of those woods. I had to get out of
1543
01:25:24.949 --> 01:25:28.189
those woods. I would run all the way home nonstop.
1544
01:25:28.729 --> 01:25:31.579
And then at night, my room was like the size
1545
01:25:31.619 --> 01:25:34.720
of a prison cell, okay? My father was a carpenter.
1546
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:38.619
He turned the front porch into a bedroom, right? And
1547
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:41.720
the only windows he had in his carpenter shop was
1548
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:44.399
front window. It was a big picture window with too little.
1549
01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:47.140
So this thing, I used to think this thing was
1550
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:49.840
going to come into the city, put his hand through
1551
01:25:49.899 --> 01:25:52.750
my window. His arms were as long as the room
1552
01:25:52.789 --> 01:25:55.729
was wide. You know what I mean? Grab me, pull
1553
01:25:55.770 --> 01:25:58.210
me out and take me away. So for two years,
1554
01:25:58.229 --> 01:26:00.350
I couldn't sleep at night. I got no sleep. You
1555
01:26:00.390 --> 01:26:02.829
know what I mean? At night terrace for two years.
1556
01:26:03.210 --> 01:26:03.949
Holy cow.
1557
01:26:04.569 --> 01:26:05.430
That's incredible.
1558
01:26:05.789 --> 01:26:08.569
That is. Yeah.
1559
01:26:09.050 --> 01:26:12.779
Completely, completely crazy. You know, and this, it sticks with you.
1560
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:13.310
You know, you.
1561
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:19.399
Have you ever gone back to Florida since then? Oh, yeah.
1562
01:26:19.420 --> 01:26:24.100
I mean, I'll never... My sister doesn't live in South
1563
01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:26.819
Florida anymore. She moved up to Daytona and she's up
1564
01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:30.680
in Northern Florida now. She doesn't live down there, but
1565
01:26:31.500 --> 01:26:35.159
Sunshine Acres is all developed now. The woods we used
1566
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:39.859
to ride our bikes in has all been developed for homes.
1567
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.750
I even think they drained all the swamps and everything.
1568
01:26:42.789 --> 01:26:45.630
They drained them and built homes on what used to
1569
01:26:45.670 --> 01:26:48.750
be the canals and everything, you know? So it's, it's,
1570
01:26:49.050 --> 01:26:51.800
it's really a high end area now, you know what
1571
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:54.399
I mean? Um, considering what it was just a little
1572
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:55.239
cowboy town.
1573
01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:58.590
So it's kind of, uh, so if that skunk ape
1574
01:26:58.630 --> 01:27:00.529
was there it's pushed him out now it's pushed him
1575
01:27:00.569 --> 01:27:04.409
into a new new location um which seems to happen
1576
01:27:04.430 --> 01:27:05.829
with a lot of developments they kind.
1577
01:27:05.750 --> 01:27:08.369
Of no he went back he went back he went
1578
01:27:08.449 --> 01:27:11.630
back down to the swamps for sure yeah and it
1579
01:27:11.670 --> 01:27:14.770
was crazy because right after that happened to us we
1580
01:27:14.789 --> 01:27:18.909
started seeing reports on the news every night about uh
1581
01:27:19.029 --> 01:27:21.909
that this deputy seen the skunk ape the state trooper
1582
01:27:21.939 --> 01:27:24.920
seen the skunk ape the county police seen the skunk
1583
01:27:25.020 --> 01:27:27.960
air and And we're hearing it on the radio. We're
1584
01:27:27.979 --> 01:27:30.439
seeing it on the news. And we thought for sure
1585
01:27:30.460 --> 01:27:32.960
that they were going to come and interview us because
1586
01:27:32.979 --> 01:27:36.340
we were the only witnesses that were there. And no
1587
01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:39.300
one ever came to interview us. It was like it
1588
01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:40.899
never happened. You know what I mean?
1589
01:27:42.020 --> 01:27:46.729
That is incredible. It's crazy that that just doesn't happen.
1590
01:27:46.739 --> 01:27:49.970
You know, like it just seems to, you know, it
1591
01:27:50.010 --> 01:27:53.670
does make the news, but it's pushed away and just,
1592
01:27:54.229 --> 01:27:57.739
let's try not to give it too much attention. And, uh, yeah,
1593
01:27:57.819 --> 01:27:59.960
I don't know why public officials who know this.
1594
01:28:00.180 --> 01:28:04.659
And yeah, I think somebody did somebody, somebody did a
1595
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:07.779
YouTube video on it. I forgot who it was. And
1596
01:28:07.819 --> 01:28:11.090
he used my report and he used, um, raise all
1597
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:14.829
the reason, uh, uh, articles and everything. And he used
1598
01:28:14.909 --> 01:28:20.210
the sunshine acre stuff. And he actually, in his documentary,
1599
01:28:20.850 --> 01:28:23.170
he actually talked to one of the sheriffs in a
1600
01:28:23.229 --> 01:28:25.960
sheriff's was telling them all the stuff that was going
1601
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.840
on like that nobody knew about except for the local police,
1602
01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:33.770
you know, and his report. So it was pretty cool. Yeah.
1603
01:28:34.590 --> 01:28:37.890
Wow, that's incredible. That is incredible. Well, I'll, you know,
1604
01:28:38.189 --> 01:28:41.250
this has been quite the experience that you've, you've brought
1605
01:28:41.310 --> 01:28:45.069
us along on and you have, I'm sure you have
1606
01:28:45.489 --> 01:28:47.409
so much more to tell and I would love to
1607
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:48.880
have you back on here in the future.
1608
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:53.399
You know, we haven't even touched the UFO abduction stuff.
1609
01:28:54.260 --> 01:28:55.500
Oh my gosh. Oh, okay.
1610
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:59.310
Yeah. That's a whole other episode for sure. So, Al,
1611
01:28:59.390 --> 01:29:02.510
if anybody is looking, if they're looking for you, where
1612
01:29:02.529 --> 01:29:03.390
are they going to find you?
1613
01:29:04.250 --> 01:29:06.449
Easiest place to find me is like that sign right
1614
01:29:06.489 --> 01:29:10.890
behind me, the Bronxville Paranormal Society group page on YouTube.
1615
01:29:11.050 --> 01:29:14.810
I mean, on Facebook. I have a YouTube page as well.
1616
01:29:15.750 --> 01:29:20.189
I'm also the founder of the New York State Dog
1617
01:29:20.229 --> 01:29:23.619
Man Project, the New York State UFO Project, and the
1618
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:26.539
New York State Sasquatch Organization. So if you go to
1619
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.380
any of those pages on Facebook, You can find me
1620
01:29:29.420 --> 01:29:32.560
at any of those pages. We have 800 numbers you
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01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:34.930
can call that will come directly to my phone and stuff.
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Or if you just want to reach out to me
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personally on Facebook, I'm very accessible if anybody wants to
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talk to me.
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Oh, that is awesome. Well, Al, I want to say
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thank you so much for spending the time tonight and
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filling us in on what you've experienced. And hopefully if
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other people have experienced the same thing, they can get
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01:29:54.579 --> 01:29:58.579
the courage to come forward and document their experiences as well.
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01:30:00.380 --> 01:30:03.380
Yeah, no, right. Thank you for having me. The pleasure
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01:30:03.420 --> 01:30:05.420
is all mine. It was a privilege to be on
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your show, to be asked and everything. And I take
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01:30:08.819 --> 01:30:11.199
all of this stuff very serious when people ask me
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to come on their shows. And I'm very, very proud
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to be here tonight. And anytime you want me back,
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you know, you got me, just reach out to me
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and we'll talk some more for sure.
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01:30:23.090 --> 01:30:25.029
Oh, that is awesome. Thank you so much, Al. I
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really appreciate it. All right, everyone. That was Al the
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01:30:30.569 --> 01:30:33.649
Squatch Father. And if you guys have had these types
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01:30:33.689 --> 01:30:36.760
of experiences, if you've, I don't know if you've had
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01:30:36.779 --> 01:30:42.640
that many experiences, whether it be Dogmen, Sasquatch, Skunk Ape, UFOs,
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01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:45.699
and you are interested in telling your story, you know,
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you can either reach out to me or reach out
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01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:49.170
to Al as well. He's given us a lot of
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01:30:49.210 --> 01:30:52.250
places that you can, you can find him. Go and
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01:30:52.289 --> 01:30:56.090
check those places out and, or fire me an email
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01:30:56.109 --> 01:30:58.840
at And I'll be more than happy to read it
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01:30:58.949 --> 01:31:00.600
and see what's going on to try to give you
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01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.000
an answer. Or if you want to come on and
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01:31:02.020 --> 01:31:04.439
tell your experience, by all means, let's set that up.
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01:31:04.899 --> 01:31:08.260
And until next time, everyone, keep your curiosity wandering, keep
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01:31:08.300 --> 01:31:11.279
the light lit, and always find your way home.
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01:31:27.020 --> 01:31:30.359
The Nephilim's echoes whisper low.
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01:31:31.380 --> 01:31:34.319
Bigfoot roams through the forest deep.
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01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:38.680
And Dogman prowls where the brave won't sleep.
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01:31:40.189 --> 01:31:45.750
Across lost history we wonder why Seeking the truth that
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01:31:45.810 --> 01:31:48.130
time tried to hide.
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01:31:48.810 --> 01:31:51.369
Keep your curiosity wandering in the light lit.
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01:31:51.550 --> 01:31:53.229
Through the darkness, don't ever quit.
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01:31:53.770 --> 01:31:56.140
In the codex, the mystery's coming.
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01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.380
Always find your way back.
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01:32:02.939 --> 01:32:11.939
Home. UFOs streak through the velvet skies. Aliens watch with
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01:32:12.100 --> 01:32:19.579
unblinking eyes. The paranormal homes where silence breaks. In the
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01:32:19.659 --> 01:32:24.979
void of secrets, a lantern wakes. Through hidden realms, a
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01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:30.020
story is untold. The cold gas flame is a light
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01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:35.010
to hold. Keep your curiosities wandering in the light lit.
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01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:38.689
Through the darkness, don't ever quit. In the codex, the
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01:32:38.729 --> 01:32:39.729
mystery's coming on.
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01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:55.640
UFOs streak through the velvet skies Aliens watch.
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01:32:55.399 --> 01:33:01.739
With unblinking eyes The paranormal homes where silence breaks.
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01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:08.149
In the void of secrets a lantern wakes Through hidden
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01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:13.649
realms and stories untold The Kogast flame is a light
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01:33:13.689 --> 01:33:15.050
to hold.
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01:33:16.090 --> 01:33:18.670
Keep your curiosities wandering in the light lit.
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01:33:18.789 --> 01:33:22.310
Through the darkness, don't ever quit. In the codex, the
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01:33:22.350 --> 01:33:23.409
mystery's coming.
1678
01:33:23.649 --> 01:33:35.119
Always find your way back home. Legends rise from the
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01:33:35.300 --> 01:33:36.800
Earth's deep core.
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01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:40.619
A lost legacy we can't ignore.
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01:33:42.260 --> 01:33:47.970
With every step, the veil grows thin. Revealing worlds where
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01:33:48.010 --> 01:33:53.069
the strange begins Keep your curiosities.
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01:33:52.210 --> 01:33:55.050
Wandering in the light lit Through the darkness, don't ever
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01:33:55.090 --> 01:33:59.189
quit In the codex, the mysteries come And always find
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01:33:59.210 --> 01:34:02.729
your way back home Some giant script is the call
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01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:09.779
Aliens' histories will uncover it all With Rob the Codex,
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01:34:09.819 --> 01:34:14.560
we'll never be alone Together, we'll always find our way
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01:34:14.739 --> 01:34:15.079
home
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Oh.