Bitcoin Treasury Implodes After 4-Month Lockout - Fed Holds, Hawks Want Higher

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Four months, a big, big, and how long,
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Dada Vault, a publicly, a publicly company, a
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publicly traded Bitcoin Treasury company says it's been
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a suck trying to withdraw its own Bitcoin
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from an exchange, and their stock is now
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showing that reality. Plus, the Fed held rates
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while two officials pushed for a hike, and
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70 ,000 Coinbase users just had their details
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leaked. And finally, I've got here queued up,
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teed up to watch in a little bit,
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perhaps the strangest Bitcoin Core vulnerability disclosure I've
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ever seen, so we're going to give that
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a watch a little bit too. Strap in,
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I'm Ben, with the BTC sessions. This is
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Bitcast. The issue is not red or blue.
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The issue is between the state and you.
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It can be a little bit of a
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warning sign. It gives you a tool to
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empower. That sounds like a utopia, my friend.
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It is. It's exactly a utopia. With Bitcoin,
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no one can take it from you. Feels
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kind of weird not to be dialing in
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drunk at steakhouse in Switzerland. It does. It
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does. It was the life. It was good.
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Thanks for it. Thanks for holding down the
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fort, boys. It's been, it was nice to
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not have to stream at like midnight to
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come over there. How is the week? That's
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good. Busy. Tell you that. Yeah. Real busy.
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A lot of some back. Thank you for
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asking. Some fucking backend problems on day one.
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But we got, we got it. Nate was
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on it. We got sort of Yeah, Joe,
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he always says back -end problems. Oh, when
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you're not a coffee I drink, it's table
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stakes. Well, jents, let's jump into it. Let's
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talk about this treasury company, first off. So,
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Datavalt, so their stock just cratered because they
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informed investors. They haven't been able to withdraw
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their Bitcoin from the exchange, which is bit
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byconomy .com. It's been holding all their treasury
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funds, and they've been requesting, for four months.
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And I think I took a lot, a
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look, the initial crash of the stock was
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like 50%. So I guess that remaining 50
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% is just straight up speculation that at
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some point they'll be able to be able
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to withdraw. But yeah, I mean, Jens, what
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do you, what do you think about this?
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Do you think there's possibilities that we see
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other stuff like this in the future? Or
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is this going to be relegated to relatively
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unknown? What is bank?! I'm not, I'm not,
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heard of this treasury company or this exchange
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like these cannot be real things they all
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they are real things yeah man just pull
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up here because bennas soon did a little
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bit it's crazy i got 700 bitcoin vault
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here we're putting it in big conomy don't
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you dare use by i'll find the details
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but they're down 42 percent on the month
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but i was like let me check out
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like a little bit of a longer timeline
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year to date down 88 point eight one
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year 97 .57 .57. Not looking so great,
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but let me get also I like how
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they went for the AI play too. Like
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they're just doing everything. Yeah, yeah, that's got
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to be, it's like the, what was the,
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the ice tea company that changed the Long
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Island, Long Island blockchain, baby. Long Island, that's
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what it was. Thank you. Do you mean,
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what's that meme of the guy? The Long
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Island, the tech company? Man, I mean, this
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is why none of us will recommend that
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you do anything but buy Bitcoin, right? Like,
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you need to know that, and like, again,
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I've been very vocal about this. Joey has
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not been very vocal about it, but I,
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you know, Joey and I both own MSTR,
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right? Some of us just tell the truth
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in public, others mislead their guests. That's fine.
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To each their own cultural differences, Canadian stuff,
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whatever. But the point is, this is why,
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as I think as Bitcoiners like, it's really
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hard to be like, yeah, you should do
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anything but Bitcoin, because there's just so much
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risk involved. Like, most of the benefits are
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lost if a trusted third party is still
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required, right? Like, when you are buying a
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security that is like, there are so many
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trusted third parties involved, right? And also, if
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you get screwed and the stock goes to
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zero, like, it's, you know, okay, you lose
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all your Bitcoin in a, you know, freak
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entropy accident or because you didn't have a,
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you know, laboratory grade scale for measuring your
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casino grade dice, like, whatever, that sucks. But
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like, there's nobody to fall back on. There's
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nobody to fall back on here either. Like,
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you're not going to be able to, you're
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not going to be able to sue these
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guys, right? Like, they're maybe, okay, they get
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tied up in lawsuits, well, the class action
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lawsuit against Bitconomy or whatever this exchanges. That
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sounds fake, honestly, like it sounds like a
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fake exchange, but whatever. I think this is
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just a great reminder that, like, that's why
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everything that's not Bitcoin is pure speculation. Let
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me put it that way. Yeah, people are,
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the funny thing is people like to say,
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oh, Bitcoin's just speculation. It's like, no, actually
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Bitcoin's the thing you don't have to speculate
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on. You don't have to make guesses about
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what is the management team of Bitcoin going
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to do. You don't have to make guesses
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about dependencies on other external third parties that
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your third parties, you don't have dependencies on.
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You don't have to do that. You don't
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have to speculate. You can just save. And
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it may be boring and you may get
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kind of like wrecked a lot of times.
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And, you know, you may also lose a
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bunch of money in a freak entropy accident.
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or, you know, get $5 wrench attacked because
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every single Bitcoin hardware wallet company leaked your
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home address. But like, hey, it could be
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worse, you know, you could be down 97
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% on some shit coin, uh, shit coin
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equivalent of, you know, treasury stock. Like, I
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don't know, stick with Bitcoin friends. Stick with
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Bitcoin. End of mini rent. Agreed. Joey, your
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thoughts? By the way, it looks like I
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was trying to figure it out. So, uh,
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Datavalt is in Philadelphia and Bitcoin, I couldn't
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get confirmation of where they're actually head, uh,
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headquartered. There's some suggestions. it might be Singapore,
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but I can't say that for certain. I
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was going to guess the Caymans, you know.
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Jeez. Bahamas, like, you know, it's just fake.
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Okay, so by economy, again, fake name, has,
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just in my quick research here, about 115
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million under management, and then has this $93
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million dollar, like, freeze on an American. companies
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Bitcoin who chose not to use Coinbase or
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fidelity or that's the mind blowing part. Well,
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this makes me, honestly, Walker, makes me think
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something fishy is going on. This is how
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it makes me feel. Yeah, like something is
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up here. Why would this company with that
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much money not go to one of the
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more well -known, more, you know, I don't
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want to say ethical because I just don't
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know what they're thinking, but like the more
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recognizable and, you know, maybe more legitimate custody
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providers. Like what, what is the rationale for
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going to these guys? We've been doing this
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podcast for a year, almost, if you can
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believe it. And in that year, we have
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not once mentioned on the periphery as part
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of the main line, either of these companies,
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ever, ever. We've never heard of them. We
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talk about custody. We talk, we've never mentioned
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these companies. None of us have ever heard
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of these companies in the decade leading up
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to this podcast. They've never come across our,
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I think something's amiss here. How many Bitcoin
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did they lose? Or how many Bitcoin are?
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I think it's 820 or so. They're looking
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to get back. 820. Yeah. It wasn't a
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small amount to pay $93 million or so,
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right? I think that's the number. And so
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that's very cool. So, Joey, just to add
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to that, I've been able to track. I'm
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trying to get like some more information out
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to try and pull this apart a little
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bit. Because you're right. It seems like the
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Bitcoin moved between accounts within Biconomy. And why
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would they go with them as well, too?
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Well, Data Vault also has their own token.
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It was also listed on Biconomy. Okay. And
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so I'm. I'm wondering if maybe we had
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a token for token for claim behind the
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scenes to try and justify or have all
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that was necessary up there. Okay. Fix the
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books up or something. Something going on there
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because there's no, there's no rationale. Now, what
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I'd like to know is, uh, is the
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CEO of Bikonomy of Cayman Island descent. I
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would love to know this because to me,
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this is the last piece of the puzzle.
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If we can pin this guy's lineage to
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the Caymans, we can just wrap this story
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up, and go to the next story. There's
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nothing else to talk about here. This guy,
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this is already suspicious. What's that? Are you
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sleuthing right now? Yes. Hell yeah, he is.
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It'll be solid. We gotta find this out.
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Because, because there's no other reason why you
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would ever do this. But there's so many
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options. And God knows, like any properly run
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company, you'd never get this past your board.
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Your board of directors is never going to
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go. We're going with byconomy. I'm thinking bi
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-conomy. Looks like Dubai. Okay. All right. And
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he's actually, like, from Dubai or residency there?
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Whereas I couldn't find where he personally lives.
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His public appearances point to Dubai in April
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25. He gave a keynote a blockchain disrupt
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in Dubai and sat on an exchange panel
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at coin. Was it Forenix? For instance, X,
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also in Dubai. Where the company is, the
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answers don't match, which is working, which is
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worth knowing itself. Early on, it called itself
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Canadian in 2021. Released from Toronto as leading
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cryptocurrency exchange in Canada, right? Damn that. Today,
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recent profiles say it's registered in British Virgin
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Isles based in Dubai. There we go. There
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we go. How about that? There you go.
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So it looks like we got some sneaky
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money moving. But again, it's legit. For sure.
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Where's Zach XPT? Zachsbt should be spending some
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time on this. That's the guy we need
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on this story. Yeah, he's incredible. Hell yeah,
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he is. we've seen from hardware wallets to
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even we'll talk about a little bit later
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some some issues maybe in core that have
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been patched there's already so much infrastructure there
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why do you want to layer on top
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of it the decisions of another company plus
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their infrastructure how they're automating withdraws and deposits
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and things of that nature you're just adding
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additional layers that even just software risk you
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don't want to necessarily be exposed there but
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ben i'm curious your thoughts yeah i mean
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again i think joey's right the whole thing
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just seems super fishy like you've got that
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that kind of a stack and you're going
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to toss it with like whatever the hell
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this company. Okay, one other thing, like, not
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to, you know, continue to be Smirch MVP,
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but did he also fail to recognize this
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company in his treasuries list? Are they even
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on, are they even on Bitcoin Treasuries? I'll
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find out. Like, that's another thing. Like, these
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guys are just completely under the radar on
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that, too. Come on. I don't believe this
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for a second. Yeah, yeah, fair. Well, while
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you guys look that up, I want to
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pull up the next thing here. So, uh,
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we see, we see, saw the Fed and
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they held rates. So we have, here's a
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summary of the Fed decision. As of today,
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Fed leaves interest rates unchanged after September hike.
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Rate pause was a 10 -2 decision with
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Cook and Hammack dissenting in favor of a
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rate hike. Fed says economic activity is expanding
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at a strong pace, and the Fed says
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inflation remains elevated and seeks more information that
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geopolitical developments are contributing to uncertainty and they
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reassert that the committee will deliver price stability
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higher for longer continues at the Fed from
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a Kobayasi letter uh bitcoin did get a
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little bump obviously we had a dump uh
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probably immediately after i took a picture of
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myself riding the bull in lugano uh so
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my bad on that guys but uh it
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seems that the fed has reversed my poor
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drunk photography decisions. So here we are. I
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mean, we were chatting about, we've been chatting
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chatting about this for a while, but, uh,
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you know, we were, we've been speculating for
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a little bit whether or not there'd be
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a hike or whether they're just going to
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sit on it here. Uh, do you think
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the midterms has a lot to do with
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this or? Honestly, no. Like, if I thought
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the midterms were at play, I would think
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that they wouldn't have hiked. And you had
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two dissenting voices out of the 12 there
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and they were, uh, sorry, I had the
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background, sorry. I believe that you, I think
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this was probably the smart play because of
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the midterms, but we had two descending voices
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there that did want to hike. Now, I'm
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guessing that anybody else involved maybe want to
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wait for later. Plus, the economic data doesn't
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look. I mean, the inflation seems largely rooted
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in energy. So I'm not, I think this
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probably was the right call. And maybe, Joy,
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I'll go to you and get your thoughts
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only because we also had a decision from
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Canada today, too. I mean, Canada's decision is
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hilarious. We can talk about that if you
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want. But the Fed one is interesting to
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me for two reasons. One of them is
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around the election, this one and the one
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of 28. And then the other reason is
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because of the dissent. The dissenters were Lisa
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Cook, who is like ultra dove. And to
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see her go that direction, I find that
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a bit strange. We talked a lot on
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the show about, like, the idea that the
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Fed is looking to establish credibility. I think
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they've probably done it here. The midterms and
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the 28 election are interesting, you know, sort
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of points of focus now for me for
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two reasons. One, I think that the Fed
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really does become much more politicized if the
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Democrats win in a week or a week
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and a half or so. Because if they
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win a week and a half or so,
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then any move they make will be perceived
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as trying to hurt Democrats in the national
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election in 28 or help Republicans or vice
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versa. And so, like, you kind of are
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stuck at that point. And I realize that
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Warsh and the Federal Reserve generally tried not
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to be political. But you can't sit on
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your hands for 24 months if you're the
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Federal Reserve, not in this environment. So I
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don't know whether they'd actually prefer to see
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a Republican win in two weeks or not,
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but it would at least give them a
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little more cover. And then the other side
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of that point or the other part of
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that argument, I guess, is that, you know,
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almost no matter who wins in 28, the
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pressure is going to be to cut. Republicans
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want rates down. The president talks about it
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all the time. On the Democrat side, you
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have the Liz Warrens and sort of her
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ilk and her tribe there, no pun intended,
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talking about how they want rates down and
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writing open letters to Federal Reserve Chairman to
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the Reserve Chairman and to the Fed Board
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saying, look, we can't, Americans need this, the
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lower half of the K, blah, blah, blah,
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blah. In Canada, we decided to hike. And
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I'm like, not surprised, but I'm always reminded.
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It's kind of jarring. Every time I mention
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anything about, rate cuts around the time of
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the decision. And by the way, I wasn't
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alone yesterday posting threads on why the bank
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cannot, or shouldn't raise, I should say, does
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not support a raise and hike in rates.
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Employment data is not good. It's an energy
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shock. And the fact of the matter is
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the U .S. can do whatever they want
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with rates because they have a growth engine
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to turn up and down. And we don't
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have that growth engine. The growth engine is
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in real estate. And by the way, our
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government knows this because they're trying to ramp
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up immigration. Yet again, to support housing. And
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so, like, we are in a different boat
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entirely than the United States. And I think
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a lot of people in my replies are
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talking about how you got to think about
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the cost of energy. You got to think
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about employment. You got to think about what
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the U .S. is going to do. You
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have to think about blah, blah, blah. No,
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the Canadian BOC is a single mandate bank.
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They care about price stability. That's it. They
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don't have any other mandate. There's no mandate
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on employment like the U .S. has. There's
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no broader mandate like the ECB talks about.
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These guys are, the ECB is actually a
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one. officially a one mandate bank too, but
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they also have some other documents around like
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what they think about when they look at
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rates. I think that what's going to happen
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here is the same thing that always happens.
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The Fed is going to chase the two
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-year. They're going to be six months late.
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People will complain they did something too early,
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complain they didn't do enough, whatever. And then
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heading toward the election in 28, you're going
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to see fireworks in bonds. You're going to
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see fireworks in the political side of things.
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And you're going to see fireworks in Fed
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pressure. These guys know that if they win
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in 28, the Democratic. know that if they
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win next week, between next week and 28,
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they want no cuts. They want race to
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stay high. They want the economy to drag,
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if not go, if not chopped, chopped downward
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for that period of time. And the Republicans
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want the opposite. I mean, for us in
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Bitcoin, it's great to see that we don't
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respond to rate movements the way we did
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three years ago. But let's face it, like
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lower rates is bad for Dixie, good for
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us. That's a pretty solid lever to kind
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of like keep in mind. And, you know,
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if you know, if you're not, not getting
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that move, then you got to get your
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next sort of bump in price from somewhere
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else. And right now, we're still looking for
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that somewhere else. Maybe it'll come from the
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following. Daily dividends. My guy, Mike. There you
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go. Are you happy with him now, Joey?
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Yeah, Joey. I don't have him. The whole
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time. Let's be honest here. I don't have
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any shrine in his room. Should we buy
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SDRC, Walker? You want to start an SDRC
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podcast? We can shed the books. There you
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go. There you go. I was getting shit.
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I was getting shit. You had Adam Livingston
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on somebody. I was gone for like one
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week. I was like, oh, god damn it.
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Joe, we ran into some guest issues on
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Friday and Joe Coe said, you know, if
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we need some way, we can try and
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get Livingston. I was going to try and
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get Cratter, to be honest with you. Oh.
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Can you imagine? But I settled on Livingston.
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He was good guest. I know people don't
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agree with the Treasury thing. but I thought
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he was a good guest. I know he
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was, he did a wonderful job. He was
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a wonderful guest. I'll give you that. But
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I was just laughing from my hotel room,
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my beautiful hotel room was like, Jesus Christ,
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like I've only got for a week. And
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already, we've turned into truer north. All right,
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I know this is going. So the story
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here, MSTR shareholders have approved the Daily Dividends
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Amendment preliminary results show 99 .3 % of
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both cast were in favor. So it enables
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their slew of products to accrue dividends every
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calendar day. Now, this obviously to like a
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yes and to what Strive is doing, but
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remember, just a week ago, Strive with the
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15 % dividends there, is this even enough?
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Like, is this going to tell me, tell
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me, Walker. Is it enough? I mean, it's
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always been enough, right? This is the thing.
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You contrast this, I literally have already forgotten
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the name of this, this treasury company that
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allegedly had many tens of millions of dollars
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in Bitcoin. Data Vault, yes. They got Vault
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in the name. Oh, my God. Sorry, I
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think it was Data Vault AI, because I
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think it's Data Vault AI now. Exactly. So,
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great, nice keywords in there, guys. You contrast
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that with what Sailor has been doing for
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you. years. Like, it surprises me, it doesn't
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surprise him when Joey fades him because I
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know Joey secretly loves him and he's a
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huge MSTR bold. That's fine. It's fine. But
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what surprises me is when people still fade
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Sailor, as it's like, oh, they got him
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this time. Like, how are you going to
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wiggle your way out of this one, Mike?
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And it's like, wiggles his way out because
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it's, he actually is fucking not an idiot
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and knows what he's doing. And as, I
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don't think people understand a conviction that this
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guy has. Like, if you're a fading sailor
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right now, And you haven't, again, as I've
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recommended people, do, go back and listen to
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a bunch of the early podcasts he did
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especially, like, this guy was, has been on
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a like mind -bending exploration of Bitcoin. He's
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gone down the rabbit hole in ways many
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of us have, but, you know, few people
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in the world have because we're still a
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tiny minority. He fucking gets Bitcoin. He understands
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it very well. His first Bitcoin purchase was
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10 ,000 Bitcoin personally. Like, have you ever
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heard Eric Weiss tell that story? It's incredible.
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He's basically like, yeah, so Michael finally bought
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and he says, you know, oh, Eric, I
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bought, you know, got 10 ,000. And Eric's
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like, oh, $10 ,000. That's nice, Mike. He's
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like, no, 10 ,000 Bitcoin. And like, just
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lump some, just, I'm just going to buy
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10 ,000 Bitcoin. Why did I have to
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be poor when I discovered Bitcoin? Like, this
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is so frustrating. Like, he just comes in,
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it's like just 10 ,000 and like, no,
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not even concerned about it. I mean, yeah.
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So, but like, he has a vested interest
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at a personal level and at his company.
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level of making sure Bitcoin succeeds. He's going
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to make sure his company succeeds too. I
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think MSTR, STRs, all their other products, like,
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you know, I haven't gone deep enough down
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the rabbit hole of all their other because
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they do have like a whole alphabet soup
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of different products. I think obviously STRC has
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the most kind of like broad appeal. And
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whatever you might think about, like his digital
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credit, you know, phrasing and whatnot, like it
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doesn't fucking matter how he phrased it. This
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product isn't for you. This product isn't for
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you. This product isn't for Bitcoiners. Bitcoiners are
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going to buy Bitcoin, right? And maybe they'll
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buy MSTR because they want, they have some
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money tied up in a retirement account or
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something like that, that they want a little
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bit of, you know, Bitcoin -esque exposure without
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owning the underlying. But STRC is like, it's
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not a product for, like, young, toxic Bitcoin
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maximalists online. He's not trying to appeal to
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you. Understand that when you start to critique
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his framing of things. He's doing it very
510
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purposefully. He's been the CEO of a publicly
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traded company for decades. He's had a shitload
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of media training. He knows what he's supposed
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to say and what he's not. So, I
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don't know. I'm bullish. I don't recommend anyone
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buy STRC or MSTR. I personally own MSTR.
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Again, I just recommend you buy Spock Bitcoin
517
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and, you know, make sure you get your
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casino grade dice, you know, get six different
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PO boxes and have a mail forwarder, like
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a courier, go between them. Laboratory grade scale,
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using the entropy of the sun to give
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you additional randomness. Pretty standard stuff there. Yeah,
523
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just pretty easy stuff, guys. Self -Cust is
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easy. I also had a delightful electrical engineer,
525
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I believe it was, or electronics engineer in
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Switzerland, answer a question for me that you
527
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could not measure the changes in power being
528
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eaten up by the device to detect whether
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or not it actually had basically a bug
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had the antenna in it, because it's going
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to be fun. It's dependent on the battery.
532
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It's not going to be charging or draining
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from the battery at the same time. So,
534
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unfortunately, you know, getting an Ome reading on
535
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or voltage reading on how much we're pulling
536
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into the device, can't be used, but that
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laboratory scale there is still really important. One
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thing I should go to throw to you,
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Joey, just because I'm kind of curious here,
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because I was just taking a look. We've
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got now, so Stretch is looking pretty good.
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It's at 99 .83 at the moment. Seta
543
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is still at 97, a little bit below,
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a little bit down. And, of course, they
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have the new product as well, which is
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not a variable rate on. So I don't
547
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think it's supposed to target any value. It's
548
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just trading freely on the market there. But
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do you think that the new Sats product
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is pulling away demand from SETA, from their
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preferred there? Yeah, I do. Any other questions?
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Yeah. I do. And other thing, too, is
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that STRC, so you may recall, we talked
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about this, but it's worth repeating. The reason
555
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that SETA did a lot better than STRC
556
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during that big drawdown event is because there's
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no drift when people have to come in
558
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and out at the beginning of every day.
559
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STRC did not have that. STRC was having
560
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people exit and then re -enter on dividend
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days. So once you get to the X
562
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dividend date, that's when people re -buy, that's
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when people re -buy, and that's when you
564
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see the price move back up. I would
565
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expect to see a lot of the volatility
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and the price of STRC disappear now, which
567
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is exactly what Sailor, I believe, wants. I
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continue to wonder, and like Walker said, I
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have MSTR now, and I, you know, it's
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Wednesday, bought some more today. You're welcome for
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people who are enjoying the price action on
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that. I contributed to the upside. The thing
573
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I still don't really have a handle on
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is how much more the market will tolerate
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being diluted. We did do a quick MSTR
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hit when you guys were gone, and it
577
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was a number. another ATM where they were
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selling MSTR to buy STRC back. So my
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main criticism is still the same. And it's
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that at some point, a rational market looks
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at this and goes, I don't know why
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I'm holding MSTR. The other stuff pays a
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dividend. The other stuff, you know, to quote
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someone in the chat. Why are you holding
585
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it, Joey? Are you irrational? No, I think
586
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that it's going to go to like 350,
587
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but I don't know how much higher than
588
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that it will go. And to be honest
589
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with you, I, if it keeps deluding, then
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he's got to find new buyers for that
591
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somewhere. And that's the other thing, like, with
592
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these other options now, how many people are
593
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going to say, you know what, I kind
594
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of would just want the monthly or daily,
595
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I guess, every calendar day on top of,
596
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you know, the business days, right? Like, how
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many people are going to go, is it
598
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safer to be in this other stuff? Even
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if they're not Walker, like we always say,
600
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you know, even if they're not part of
601
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that risk profile that wants steady income, like
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I don't want to be the last guy
603
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at the table when the market decides I've
604
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had enough the dilution. And I think, you
605
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know, it's worth mentioning, one of the things
606
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that might save Sailor is the rest of
607
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the stock market is going to find out
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what ATM means soon. And it's not just
609
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a porn hub search. Okay. What it actually
610
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means is these at the money equity offerings.
611
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And do you know why they're going to
612
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find out? Because you know which big company,
613
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which big company who's been buying back like
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hundreds of billions of dollars of stock over
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the last few years is going to start
616
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doing ATMs, meta, because they need to pay
617
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for the capEx. in their AI stuff. And
618
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that's in their S1 from the other day,
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or not their S1, they're quarterly. That's a
620
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.660
good prediction. So fucking wait, because they're going
621
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to start doing it too. And other people
622
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are going to start talking about at the
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money offerings. All at NASDAQ holders think about
624
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now is, are there going to be buybacks
625
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in my ticker? They're going to start thinking
626
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about dilution because those guys suddenly have a
627
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better use for the money than just buying
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back the stock. Look out for that. Yep,
629
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yep. Agreed. I do want to add there,
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Joey, at least there's another cohort coming into
631
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MSTR, and that'll be the data vault AI
632
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customers once they respect it. It was the
633
00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:47.020
wrong horse to bet on. True, true. Cool,
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Bill flown in. All right, Jens, I'm going
635
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to take us to break here. On the
636
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other side of the break, we're going to
637
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start off with that Coinbase data breach, just
638
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piling on to all of the data breaches
639
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and the minefield that is our current environment.
640
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Is anybody safe? Probably not. So we're going
641
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to dive into that and plenty more on
642
00:27:08.540 --> 00:27:10.220
the other side of the break. smash that
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like button, keep those comments coming, and we'll
644
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be back in just a moment. You already
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know that you can't leave your seed phrase
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on paper. It needs to be on metal.
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What you might not know is that more
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Bitcoin has actually been lost and been stolen.
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More than 10 times the amount ever hacked,
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gone because someone lost their keys. Your biggest
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risk isn't some shadowy supercoder, it's time in
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the elements. That's why Stamseed uses titanium. Titanium
653
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never rusts. Doesn't matter if it's a raging
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housefire at the bottom of the ocean or
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sitting at a desk drawer for 50 years,
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titanium doesn't care. One salt piece, nothing to
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come apart that you hammer in. By the
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stamp seed kit, and as your set of
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evolves, you just grab more. plates, stamp it
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once and never worry about your backup again.
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passphrase, your descriptor, backed up on titanium. This
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let's take a look at this fun little
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data breach. Also, I love there's actually a
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community note on Coinbase themselves because they said
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Coinbase has not had a data. breach, Amplitude,
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an analytics vendor, experienced a security incident which
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impacted a small subset of Coinbase customers, contact
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data, among other Amplitude customers. We found no
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evidence of unauthorized access to Coinbase systems and
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customer funds were not impacted. We are notifying
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impacted customers and regulatory agencies in accordance with
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our legal obligations. Yeah, so the, uh, the,
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the, the, oh, I'm sorry, did you get
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caught like selling your data and you're going
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to try and blame it on somebody else.
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Didn't they have like an India customer service
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bribe two a couple of years ago? Like
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this, they've been hit a couple of times
714
00:29:46.600 --> 00:29:50.280
now, man. Yeah. Coinbase user data was leaked
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via their analytics vendor, uh, affecting roughly 70
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,000 people. Prior breaches also include, include 2021,
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20203, and 2025. Third party contracted Coinbase customer
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service agents in India were previously bribed to
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give up users. data. You know, everybody rightfully.
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No one could have seen that coming, though.
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How could we have seen it, Walker? It
722
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was impossible to know. Literally impossible. You gotta
723
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give credit where credit is due though. You
724
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just realize that we even had like a
725
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coinbase outage during like a pump or a
726
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:24.820
crash in a while, though. At least they
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fix that problem or so, it seems. I
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suppose. I mean, too much, too much liquidity.
729
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They can't really have much impact there anymore
730
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but somebody down below outsourcing data comes with
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real risks and customers shouldn't have to pay
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for companies weak vendor oversight. Yeah, I mean,
733
00:30:45.120 --> 00:30:48.220
listen, this is, it's going to keep happening,
734
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right? Like, this isn't a unique incident in
735
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this day and age, especially these past few
736
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months here. And, I mean, it's that meme.
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I know you think it's really bad out
738
00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:02.080
there, but it's going to get worse. Yeah,
739
00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:04.620
it's all coming. home to roost, you know,
740
00:31:04.620 --> 00:31:06.700
Bitcoin has been the canary and the coal
741
00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:10.160
mine this summer, and all the shit that
742
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.460
we've seen there is now everywhere. And so
743
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if you have data somewhere, it is, was,
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00:31:18.040 --> 00:31:20.980
and will be leaked. That's all there is
745
00:31:20.980 --> 00:31:24.760
to say, I guess, guys. No, there's not
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much else to it. The other thing I
747
00:31:25.820 --> 00:31:27.580
was thinking about is that, like, and I
748
00:31:27.580 --> 00:31:29.120
keep seeing all these things in my feed
749
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regarding people using, like, Claude and different AI
750
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.800
tools to go in and, like, pull apart
751
00:31:33.800 --> 00:31:36.420
their phone and their TV, and there's tons
752
00:31:36.420 --> 00:31:38.500
of, like, data and user information that's being
753
00:31:38.500 --> 00:31:40.560
stolen all the time. These guys, and I
754
00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:43.300
don't, like, they have every economic incentive to
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00:31:43.300 --> 00:31:44.640
try and keep their fees and stuff on
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the platform as low as possible. And so
757
00:31:46.220 --> 00:31:47.400
to do so, they're going to collect as
758
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.220
much information from you as possible, right? It's
759
00:31:50.220 --> 00:31:51.640
another reason to go with one of the,
760
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.020
with a different exchange, to go with one
761
00:31:53.020 --> 00:31:54.560
of the non -custodial exchanges, like our friends
762
00:31:54.560 --> 00:31:55.840
over at Bitcoin well and our friends even
763
00:31:55.840 --> 00:31:57.820
over a bold Bitcoin, right? But these guys
764
00:31:57.820 --> 00:31:59.840
absolutely are going to be doing everything they
765
00:31:59.840 --> 00:32:01.960
can to try and sell you as much,
766
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.260
squeeze as much out of you and have
767
00:32:03.260 --> 00:32:05.280
competitive rates along the way. So I'd expect
768
00:32:05.280 --> 00:32:07.780
that almost every major company is also possible.
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I'm not saying that they for sure are.
770
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.480
I don't have any information that Coinbase is
771
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.540
selling their customer data, but I have a
772
00:32:12.540 --> 00:32:14.300
sneaking suspicion. They're probably there are people that
773
00:32:14.300 --> 00:32:15.840
would pay a lot of money for it.
774
00:32:15.840 --> 00:32:17.280
They'd maybe want to trade against the market
775
00:32:17.280 --> 00:32:18.840
as well, too, just like in other places
776
00:32:18.840 --> 00:32:20.520
that this is, this is always going to
777
00:32:20.520 --> 00:32:21.820
be a thing, especially with these giants. But
778
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I don't know, Walker, what are your thoughts?
779
00:32:25.340 --> 00:32:26.540
Boy, like things are going to get so
780
00:32:26.540 --> 00:32:28.640
much worse before they get any better with
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00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.700
all this stuff. Like, I'm sorry. Like, it
782
00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:34.160
was already. bad enough before AI in terms
783
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.220
of having your data you know data breaches
784
00:32:36.220 --> 00:32:38.100
stuff's out in the dark web people can
785
00:32:38.100 --> 00:32:39.520
buy access to it like it was already
786
00:32:39.520 --> 00:32:42.840
bad now it's just like trivially easy i
787
00:32:42.840 --> 00:32:45.040
think is the problem like it's the attack
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00:32:45.040 --> 00:32:47.900
vector or says that the attack surface is
789
00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:51.280
so broad and the tools are so good
790
00:32:51.280 --> 00:32:52.920
and it's like oh no the frontier model
791
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.080
won't let you do it okay give me
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00:32:54.080 --> 00:32:56.520
k3 will like she'll help you she doesn't
793
00:32:56.520 --> 00:32:58.220
care don't give a fuck she's like okay
794
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or you know however she talks um you
795
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know I'll leave that one there. I mean,
796
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out of all of the accents that you've
797
00:33:05.020 --> 00:33:07.360
mastered, that's the best. Yeah. Okay, thank you,
798
00:33:07.360 --> 00:33:09.180
thank you. But the point is like, you
799
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need to be prepared for this. I think
800
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it's also a great, rare of minor, just
801
00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:15.480
like in general. I mean, people still fall
802
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.560
for these like the Google calls and stuff
803
00:33:17.560 --> 00:33:18.880
like that. There's like, there's going to be
804
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.360
so many people trying to come at you
805
00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:21.540
all the time. First of all, just as
806
00:33:21.540 --> 00:33:24.480
a disclaimer, like, Google will never call you
807
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.420
guys. None of these companies, Coinbase will never
808
00:33:26.420 --> 00:33:28.580
call you. Google will never call you. None
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00:33:28.580 --> 00:33:30.360
of these big companies give a flying fuck
810
00:33:30.360 --> 00:33:32.320
about little old you if you get a
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call from them it's fake for first off
812
00:33:35.620 --> 00:33:39.840
secondly you probably should do things just generally
813
00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:42.480
for securing like if you used a primary
814
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.080
email address that you've had for a long
815
00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:45.360
time and might have a lot of different
816
00:33:45.360 --> 00:33:47.140
secrets in doors used as a backup email
817
00:33:47.140 --> 00:33:49.120
address for a bunch of other things and
818
00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:50.560
maybe it's also tied to your two f
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a and things like that you should probably
820
00:33:52.860 --> 00:33:55.720
secure that with a ubeki as like a
821
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real basic thing to do it makes it
822
00:33:58.340 --> 00:33:59.400
a bit of a bitch for you to
823
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.560
get into it sometimes and that's the point
824
00:34:01.560 --> 00:34:03.520
because then nobody can get in there without
825
00:34:03.520 --> 00:34:05.120
that physical key don't lose it make a
826
00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:07.720
couple of copies of it but like i'm
827
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i'm amazed that more people aren't like rush
828
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i mean maybe they are like rushing to
829
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:12.620
get ube keys right now if i didn't
830
00:34:12.620 --> 00:34:14.520
have ubeki's set up on like all my
831
00:34:14.520 --> 00:34:16.400
shit i'd be pretty worried right now but
832
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.520
that is like the beautiful thing about physical
833
00:34:19.520 --> 00:34:22.560
physical cryptography like you know or physical cryptographic
834
00:34:22.560 --> 00:34:25.140
signing tools basically is it makes it really
835
00:34:25.140 --> 00:34:26.140
it's kind of a pain in the eyes
836
00:34:26.140 --> 00:34:27.940
for you sure but it makes it really
837
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difficult for people to get to your accounts.
838
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And right now, if you don't have that
839
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.700
kind of stuff, like, if you just have
840
00:34:34.700 --> 00:34:38.180
very basic, well, basic security on these things,
841
00:34:38.180 --> 00:34:39.520
like, you just need to assume that, first
842
00:34:39.520 --> 00:34:40.480
of all, your data's been out there, it's
843
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:41.880
been leaked, and it's been associated with all
844
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:43.660
these different accounts. And it's been cross -referenced
845
00:34:43.660 --> 00:34:45.440
by AI, because AI is really good at
846
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.120
taking a bunch of disparate data and pulling
847
00:34:47.120 --> 00:34:49.140
it together and building a matrix specifically on
848
00:34:49.140 --> 00:34:51.020
you and saying, this person has accounts at
849
00:34:51.020 --> 00:34:52.760
Coinbase and here and here and here. And
850
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:53.980
like, oh, and also look, we found their
851
00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:56.440
physical address because that's fucking trivially easy to
852
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.020
do, too. It becomes so fucking easy to
853
00:34:59.020 --> 00:35:02.500
extort you. or to somehow try and gain
854
00:35:02.500 --> 00:35:05.400
access to your accounts with really convincing personal
855
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.720
information. You're like, how, they must be legit.
856
00:35:07.720 --> 00:35:10.820
How could they know that? Just here's the
857
00:35:10.820 --> 00:35:12.020
best piece of advice I can get. If
858
00:35:12.020 --> 00:35:14.060
you refuse to go to Ubiki, just never
859
00:35:14.060 --> 00:35:17.120
check your email and never answer your phone.
860
00:35:17.120 --> 00:35:19.460
That is the best security best practices right
861
00:35:19.460 --> 00:35:22.220
there, guys. You want to, my, like, some
862
00:35:22.220 --> 00:35:24.140
of my g -mails, oh, I mean, we're
863
00:35:24.140 --> 00:35:27.040
talking 50 ,000 unread messages. I'll just let
864
00:35:27.040 --> 00:35:28.740
that thing tick up there. I'm waiting for
865
00:35:28.740 --> 00:35:31.200
it to break the. UI, like just never
866
00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:33.580
answer your email. That's the best way to
867
00:35:33.580 --> 00:35:36.560
do it, right? And never answer your phone.
868
00:35:36.560 --> 00:35:39.920
Even if it's your wife, don't answer. Especially,
869
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.800
it's your wife. Sorry, honey, I thought you
870
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:46.340
were a scammer. You know what's funny, too,
871
00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:48.980
is for all the other, to give you
872
00:35:48.980 --> 00:35:50.260
an idea of like how much these companies
873
00:35:50.260 --> 00:35:53.280
hate you, okay? For all the other things
874
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:54.760
they allow you to do with a phone,
875
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:57.880
it's so hard to get all the spyware
876
00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.520
off. And somebody, I don't know if it's
877
00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:00.980
in the notes. I'm sure one of us
878
00:36:00.980 --> 00:36:02.140
put it in the back chat, but I
879
00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:06.000
don't know if made it into the document.
880
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:11.000
Somebody pioneered, just a true sort of Chad,
881
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.040
pioneered this way to check if Israel has,
882
00:36:14.040 --> 00:36:16.980
like, state spyware on your mobile device or
883
00:36:16.980 --> 00:36:19.000
on your TV. Have you seen this? I've
884
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.100
got it right here. It is absolutely psycho,
885
00:36:23.100 --> 00:36:24.880
the stuff that's going on on your TV
886
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.400
and your phone. This is, yeah, there's been
887
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.960
people that, like, this guy, just. just used
888
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.980
Claude to look for any sort of spying
889
00:36:32.980 --> 00:36:35.520
stuff. He had like a flashlight app as
890
00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:41.180
an example. And yeah, it basically location, microphone
891
00:36:41.180 --> 00:36:45.340
contacts, like it's getting into everything. There's other
892
00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:48.340
people, again, like some other guy took Claude
893
00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:50.560
code and went through and found spyware on
894
00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:53.280
his family's phones and a backdoor on his
895
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.960
Mac. And even outside of that, like the
896
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.980
TV stuff is crazy too. This guy with
897
00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:04.080
a new Samsung TV weirdly targeted ads. He
898
00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:08.680
reversed the firmware. And so, yeah, he basically
899
00:37:08.680 --> 00:37:12.560
took it and he's got like, this thing
900
00:37:12.560 --> 00:37:17.280
could see fucking everything. Yeah, automatic, there we
901
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.540
go. Always on hot mic functionality on his
902
00:37:21.540 --> 00:37:25.920
TV. What? Listening to everything and then feeding
903
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.240
that into third parties that are going to
904
00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:31.460
advertise them. Not to mention, like, it's bad
905
00:37:31.460 --> 00:37:36.380
enough getting the, you know, without giving permissions,
906
00:37:36.380 --> 00:37:38.080
having your TV listen to you and target
907
00:37:38.080 --> 00:37:42.340
ads at you. But then also, like, how
908
00:37:42.340 --> 00:37:44.220
easy is it going to be for somebody
909
00:37:44.220 --> 00:37:47.100
to now hack into that functionality and just
910
00:37:47.100 --> 00:37:49.960
external people be just listening to you through
911
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.320
your fucking TV? Like, you never think of
912
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.340
that years ago. And here it is. But
913
00:37:55.340 --> 00:37:59.600
on the bright side, people are also used.
914
00:37:59.600 --> 00:38:02.700
using all these LOMs, as you mentioned, to
915
00:38:02.700 --> 00:38:07.880
start basically completely retooling. For now, for now.
916
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.100
It's not going to, I'm telling you, man,
917
00:38:09.100 --> 00:38:09.960
it's not going to be allowed for much
918
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.120
longer because already that reverse engineer everything tool
919
00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:15.580
has been completely turfed. Yeah, but again, yeah,
920
00:38:15.580 --> 00:38:19.980
if you're using Claude. Yeah, I know. Claude
921
00:38:19.980 --> 00:38:21.460
is not going to, this is the thing,
922
00:38:21.460 --> 00:38:22.960
okay. We talk about this all time, the
923
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.380
points of friction. How much friction is the
924
00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.020
average person willing to go through to identify
925
00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:29.540
things that could make their life a little
926
00:38:29.540 --> 00:38:33.040
more private. The answer, honestly, is probably zero.
927
00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:35.060
But let's say it's a little bit more
928
00:38:35.060 --> 00:38:36.300
than zero. They're willing to go through like
929
00:38:36.300 --> 00:38:38.600
one or two points of friction. To get
930
00:38:38.600 --> 00:38:41.000
Kimi K3, you have to go to a
931
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.760
website that your browser, the first thing your
932
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.260
browser does is ask if you want to
933
00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:47.560
move it from Chinese to English, okay? Right
934
00:38:47.560 --> 00:38:48.960
away, no one's fucking - Are you in
935
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.040
mainland China? Yeah, no one's giving their credit
936
00:38:51.040 --> 00:38:52.480
card to this, okay? Like, they're not going
937
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:54.340
to fucking do that, number one. Number two
938
00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:56.520
is, I really think, and I said this
939
00:38:56.520 --> 00:38:59.680
on this show before, the anthropics and open
940
00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:01.900
AIs and all these companies, like, they're talking
941
00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:05.960
about limiting open source model access. They're doing
942
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.720
it for a couple reasons, right? The one
943
00:39:07.720 --> 00:39:10.080
that is often under discussed is that for
944
00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:14.540
sure, Sony and Nintendo, famously litigious Nintendo, by
945
00:39:14.540 --> 00:39:18.440
the way, TV manufacturers, phone manufacturers, they are
946
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.300
100 % in the ear of these guys,
947
00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:23.860
pouring money into the same lobbies going, we
948
00:39:23.860 --> 00:39:26.580
need ads and data collection to keep the
949
00:39:26.580 --> 00:39:28.980
price of these gizmos down, otherwise no one's
950
00:39:28.980 --> 00:39:30.680
going to buy them. What is the TV
951
00:39:30.680 --> 00:39:32.820
actually worth if they don't get $1 ,000
952
00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:34.800
of data from you every month? What is
953
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.800
the TV actually going to cost you at
954
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.020
Best Buy if they can't hear your baby
955
00:39:39.020 --> 00:39:41.460
crying and send you the pamper's ad? Like,
956
00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:43.660
what is the TV worth? We don't know,
957
00:39:43.660 --> 00:39:46.580
but it ain't 800 bucks. It's way more
958
00:39:46.580 --> 00:39:48.780
than that, right? And so right now, the
959
00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:52.140
consumer in general is enjoying this deflationary trend
960
00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:55.340
in electronics. And I agree that it's probably
961
00:39:55.340 --> 00:39:57.060
deflationary. We all know about Moore's law and
962
00:39:57.060 --> 00:39:58.540
all these different things, things get cheaper, blah,
963
00:39:58.540 --> 00:40:00.020
blah, blah, we become more efficient. Of course,
964
00:40:00.020 --> 00:40:02.440
economy is the scale. Okay, but that ticket
965
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:05.560
price reflects something that most people don't understand
966
00:40:05.560 --> 00:40:08.000
and 99 % of people are never going
967
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:09.840
to try and get away from until it's
968
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:11.740
too late. To your point, Ben, the other
969
00:40:11.740 --> 00:40:13.840
thing, too, about the hacking into a TV,
970
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.060
I don't know about you guys, but you
971
00:40:15.060 --> 00:40:17.900
know where I watch football on Sundays, Amazon
972
00:40:17.900 --> 00:40:20.640
Prime app on a TV. Like, that's my
973
00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:23.440
prime account. That's my address. It's my credit
974
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.860
card. It's my whatever. It's all All there.
975
00:40:25.860 --> 00:40:27.640
All of it is there. My buying habits.
976
00:40:27.640 --> 00:40:29.760
It knows how old my kid is. What
977
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.280
gender my kid is, what she's into. Dude,
978
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.740
the ads when you pause is, it's psycho.
979
00:40:34.740 --> 00:40:35.840
It's psycho. Buddy, you don't even have to
980
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.140
pause. When you watch shit on Prime, if
981
00:40:37.140 --> 00:40:38.740
you watch Red Zone on Prime, they put
982
00:40:38.740 --> 00:40:40.920
the fucking QR code right over the scoreboard,
983
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:42.840
buddy. These guys are shameless. They're not going
984
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.520
to stop. And that's worth a bunch of
985
00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:49.000
money. You get people when they're hungover, maybe
986
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.180
a little drunk, maybe a little, you know,
987
00:40:51.180 --> 00:40:54.000
stir crazy. Let's buy something. Let's spice up
988
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.120
a boring side. This is what marketing and
989
00:40:57.120 --> 00:41:00.160
capitalism has come to. We can get people
990
00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:02.360
not only with products they like, but when
991
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.240
they're the weakest. And this is worth some
992
00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:08.440
ungodly amount of currency to these guys. And
993
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:09.620
we just don't know what it is. We're
994
00:41:09.620 --> 00:41:11.200
going to find out, though. We're definitely going
995
00:41:11.200 --> 00:41:13.200
to find out. No, quick side note, only
996
00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:14.160
because it's the only time I've ever had
997
00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:15.600
a chance to mildly tell the story without
998
00:41:15.600 --> 00:41:17.280
revealing people directly in it. But I have
999
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.180
a family member that got to grow up
1000
00:41:20.180 --> 00:41:22.400
with a snowmobile simply because they got the
1001
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:23.660
old man a little bit drunk and turned
1002
00:41:23.660 --> 00:41:25.620
on the shopping channel. So it's definitely there.
1003
00:41:25.620 --> 00:41:32.780
It definitely happens. Amazing. Speaking of somebody mentioned
1004
00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:36.660
Google earlier on, we also have to bring
1005
00:41:36.660 --> 00:41:40.140
up this, which is that Google, which is
1006
00:41:40.140 --> 00:41:44.340
that Google getting into crypto custody, Google unveils
1007
00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:47.240
a new crypto custody framework to protect digital
1008
00:41:47.240 --> 00:41:52.160
assets for banks. Quote, several major financial institutions
1009
00:41:52.160 --> 00:41:55.000
are already testing it. and Google plans to
1010
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.720
open it up early next year as stolen
1011
00:41:57.720 --> 00:42:02.020
private keys as costs the crypto industry billions.
1012
00:42:02.020 --> 00:42:04.040
Of course, Google is going to dip their
1013
00:42:04.040 --> 00:42:07.120
toes into this. I mean, everybody is at
1014
00:42:07.120 --> 00:42:11.260
some point. But gentlemen, how do we feel
1015
00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:19.580
about the formerly don't be evil Google? They
1016
00:42:19.580 --> 00:42:23.240
got rid of that line, by the way.
1017
00:42:23.240 --> 00:42:26.100
diving into custody is like, are they going
1018
00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:27.700
to give, are they going to be given
1019
00:42:27.700 --> 00:42:30.020
fidelity and Coinbase a run for their money
1020
00:42:30.020 --> 00:42:32.720
or what? I'll jump in quick and then
1021
00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:34.160
I'm curious the boys lines because this one
1022
00:42:34.160 --> 00:42:36.000
really stood out to me. So one, I
1023
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.000
mean, if they're coming up with frameworks and
1024
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.280
especially to get made public, it just makes
1025
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:40.580
us all better. You don't have to use
1026
00:42:40.580 --> 00:42:43.740
like their custodial solution with a custody provider
1027
00:42:43.740 --> 00:42:45.320
of your choosing. It might give us some
1028
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.040
new insights on how to secure keys. It
1029
00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:48.920
might give us some new tools to build
1030
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.980
off of new, new information. infrastructure. So I'm
1031
00:42:51.980 --> 00:42:54.020
all for it. They've got so much man
1032
00:42:54.020 --> 00:42:56.400
and brain power behind them that if they
1033
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:57.780
have some new ideas that are worth checking
1034
00:42:57.780 --> 00:42:59.640
out, that's great. The thing that just immediately
1035
00:42:59.640 --> 00:43:00.720
jumped out to me, which I don't have
1036
00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:03.960
an answer for, is just why? Why does
1037
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.020
Google care about custody? Right? Why are they
1038
00:43:07.020 --> 00:43:09.840
concerned about the banks custody this as well?
1039
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:11.360
Why are they concerned about the industry costing
1040
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:12.780
this? What is their end game? Because I
1041
00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:13.880
don't think they're doing it necessarily out of
1042
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.220
the goodness of their heart. Actually, I'm pretty
1043
00:43:15.220 --> 00:43:16.380
sure they're not doing it at the goodness
1044
00:43:16.380 --> 00:43:17.820
of their heart. We know they have Google
1045
00:43:17.820 --> 00:43:20.200
Pay, very popular item as well, too. Are
1046
00:43:20.200 --> 00:43:22.340
they thinking of tying this into stable coins
1047
00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:23.780
or other things. Are they thinking of having
1048
00:43:23.780 --> 00:43:26.240
some secure for themselves? So they've been evaluating,
1049
00:43:26.240 --> 00:43:27.920
like, this is not the case, but like
1050
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.860
if I was that giant bohemian, bohemian, and
1051
00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:33.980
I was true. And I was trying to,
1052
00:43:33.980 --> 00:43:36.140
Leviathan. What does a giant bohemian look like?
1053
00:43:36.140 --> 00:43:36.920
I don't know. I guess it's like a
1054
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.560
really chill, relax dude, likes to hang out.
1055
00:43:39.560 --> 00:43:40.820
But a big, like it's Chris. It's Chris,
1056
00:43:40.820 --> 00:43:44.060
on a good day, I suppose. The, if
1057
00:43:44.060 --> 00:43:46.080
I'm wondering if they saw concerns about the
1058
00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:47.700
way things that were going to be custodied
1059
00:43:47.700 --> 00:43:49.840
as it would directly pertain to their infrastructure.
1060
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.760
So I think they have some end game
1061
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.960
at play here. There's some reason to directly
1062
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.080
benefit them that they would want to build
1063
00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:57.900
this out, have it tested, and have perhaps
1064
00:43:57.900 --> 00:43:59.980
partners that they're already working with in payment
1065
00:43:59.980 --> 00:44:02.940
infrastructure start to use this model. But Joey,
1066
00:44:02.940 --> 00:44:04.240
I'll hit you first or go for it.
1067
00:44:04.240 --> 00:44:08.360
What are your thoughts, man? It's hard for
1068
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:09.860
me to think about why they might want
1069
00:44:09.860 --> 00:44:13.380
to do this. I mean, there's no, are
1070
00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:15.000
they, who are they competing with, right? They're
1071
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.660
competing with the custodians we mentioned earlier, not
1072
00:44:17.660 --> 00:44:19.240
BitConomy, of course, but some of the other
1073
00:44:19.240 --> 00:44:22.480
big guys that, you know, whatever, Digivolt AI
1074
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.480
didn't use. And I just wonder how much
1075
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:27.140
better they think their service is going to
1076
00:44:27.140 --> 00:44:29.040
be that's going to drag people over there
1077
00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:31.320
from Fidelity or Coinbase. The only thing I
1078
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.060
can think of is that they'd release this
1079
00:44:34.060 --> 00:44:36.940
product eventually for retail. Retail would use this.
1080
00:44:36.940 --> 00:44:37.960
I think a lot of people would look
1081
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.700
at this and go, I can tack on
1082
00:44:39.700 --> 00:44:42.620
five more dollars to my Google monthly spend
1083
00:44:42.620 --> 00:44:46.240
for like whatever docs, storage, photos, my fitness
1084
00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:50.360
tracker. and also get Bitcoin crypto custody, sure.
1085
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:51.580
Maybe I don't park it all there, but
1086
00:44:51.580 --> 00:44:53.420
some people would use that, no doubt, because
1087
00:44:53.420 --> 00:44:54.620
I think more and more people are thinking
1088
00:44:54.620 --> 00:44:56.120
about some of the things we've talked about,
1089
00:44:56.120 --> 00:44:58.560
you know, ease of access, ease of family
1090
00:44:58.560 --> 00:45:00.600
access and stuff like that in emergencies. And
1091
00:45:00.600 --> 00:45:02.960
so Google for all their sort of negatives
1092
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.740
is good for that kind of thing. Retail
1093
00:45:04.740 --> 00:45:08.400
-facing products, that's where they thrive. The devil's
1094
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.600
advocate in me says that there's going to
1095
00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:13.020
be a push soon to see how much
1096
00:45:13.020 --> 00:45:16.140
Bitcoin people have generally, whether it's, you know,
1097
00:45:16.140 --> 00:45:19.560
institutions, family, offices, whatever, banks. And I don't
1098
00:45:19.560 --> 00:45:20.940
think a lot of people are really interested
1099
00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:24.120
in disclosing that information any way that so
1100
00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:26.320
far has been offered, whether it's through tax
1101
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:28.900
forms or these voluntary surveys or like in
1102
00:45:28.900 --> 00:45:30.500
Canada, there was a couple of census questions
1103
00:45:30.500 --> 00:45:31.860
about Bitcoin if you got the long form
1104
00:45:31.860 --> 00:45:35.060
census this year. People are not interested in
1105
00:45:35.060 --> 00:45:37.940
sharing that information. And so the better way
1106
00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:39.400
to get it from them is sort of
1107
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.140
this backhanded way where you give them a
1108
00:45:42.140 --> 00:45:43.800
service, they take advantage of the service, and
1109
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.540
then you have that data. I think this
1110
00:45:45.540 --> 00:45:47.740
is why, by the way, doing stuff like
1111
00:45:47.740 --> 00:45:49.660
your taxes in a chat bot is a
1112
00:45:49.660 --> 00:45:53.200
bad idea. Doing stuff like your personal accounting
1113
00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:54.800
in a chat bot is a bad idea
1114
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.200
because you don't want that information out there.
1115
00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:59.160
The likelihood that's not getting to someone who
1116
00:45:59.160 --> 00:46:00.580
you don't want to have it is basically
1117
00:46:00.580 --> 00:46:02.620
zero at this point, as we've talked about.
1118
00:46:02.620 --> 00:46:05.400
As far as like the mechanisms of the
1119
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.420
storage, like, you guys would know better than
1120
00:46:09.420 --> 00:46:11.660
Walker and I, I think, what is there
1121
00:46:11.660 --> 00:46:15.360
in terms of like, you know, custody that
1122
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.760
hasn't been tried? There's, you could add, you
1123
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.040
can always add complexity, but in terms of
1124
00:46:20.040 --> 00:46:23.140
actual, like, quality of custody, what are these
1125
00:46:23.140 --> 00:46:24.260
guys going to bring to the table that
1126
00:46:24.260 --> 00:46:26.940
other custodians have now tried already? Well, the
1127
00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:28.440
only thing that immediately comes to mind, and
1128
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.480
I'm blanking on the, like, the acronym for
1129
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.800
it, it's like MCP or MPC, something along
1130
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.700
those lines. But, like, one of the ways
1131
00:46:34.700 --> 00:46:36.740
that some of the institutions full custody is
1132
00:46:36.740 --> 00:46:39.480
that they basically have one key that's sharded,
1133
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:40.960
but the, there's no single point where the
1134
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:42.600
key was ever generated. Right. So you have
1135
00:46:42.600 --> 00:46:44.460
different points that generate a piece that goes
1136
00:46:44.460 --> 00:46:45.600
to the whole key. The whole key was
1137
00:46:45.600 --> 00:46:47.980
never basically made in one. area. So I
1138
00:46:47.980 --> 00:46:49.600
wonder if it's something along those lines, but
1139
00:46:49.600 --> 00:46:51.860
there's nothing else that immediately jumps out at
1140
00:46:51.860 --> 00:46:53.500
me that would be... Not new though, right?
1141
00:46:53.500 --> 00:46:55.460
It's not new, though. I wonder if they
1142
00:46:55.460 --> 00:46:56.980
have some different way of pulling different strings
1143
00:46:56.980 --> 00:47:01.660
together in terms of, particularly the automation infrastructure
1144
00:47:01.660 --> 00:47:04.660
from a security standpoint. Maybe, okay, before we
1145
00:47:04.660 --> 00:47:06.180
pass the walker, one other thing, Google obviously
1146
00:47:06.180 --> 00:47:08.280
at the forefront of this quantum research, according
1147
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:10.480
to the Q heads, right? And so makes
1148
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:11.740
me wonder what kind of stuff they're going
1149
00:47:11.740 --> 00:47:13.920
to do for the wallets they use. If
1150
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.540
they do something that's like post -Q or
1151
00:47:15.540 --> 00:47:17.000
they try and lead a charge for post
1152
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.340
-Q stuff. Now, they're interesting data point, but
1153
00:47:19.340 --> 00:47:21.080
if they don't, then it tells you that
1154
00:47:21.080 --> 00:47:23.200
this other bullshit they keep publishing every three
1155
00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:24.760
weeks with the Ethereum guys, you know, pick
1156
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.400
up on it and spray in their pants
1157
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.920
over. Like, it's all just nonsense, right? If
1158
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:30.280
they don't start doing this when they start
1159
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.780
custodying, then what do they really care about?
1160
00:47:32.780 --> 00:47:37.000
The answer is not quantum. Anyway. Walker, your
1161
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.100
thoughts? This, this is interesting. I mean, on
1162
00:47:40.100 --> 00:47:41.640
the one hand, like, just like, let's take
1163
00:47:41.640 --> 00:47:44.340
this purely at the surface level. It's like,
1164
00:47:44.340 --> 00:47:46.880
of course, a massive company. Like, Google as
1165
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.800
their hands in many different pots would want
1166
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.140
to get into this type of business, right?
1167
00:47:52.140 --> 00:47:55.300
Like, it is a lucrative business, to be
1168
00:47:55.300 --> 00:47:56.980
sure. So, of course, they'd want to get
1169
00:47:56.980 --> 00:47:57.960
into that. And if they see the writing
1170
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.960
on the wall about kind of like where
1171
00:47:59.960 --> 00:48:01.280
things are going, and that you're going to
1172
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.200
see increasing usage of, you know, Bitcoin, stable
1173
00:48:04.200 --> 00:48:06.580
coins, probably of some of these shit coins
1174
00:48:06.580 --> 00:48:08.880
too, but not like actual usage, just like
1175
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.200
more, you know, more and more speculation. Okay,
1176
00:48:12.200 --> 00:48:13.660
like you can, you can see that. Like,
1177
00:48:13.660 --> 00:48:15.080
that's, I think that's the very like surface
1178
00:48:15.080 --> 00:48:17.660
level analysis of it. Joey, your point is
1179
00:48:17.660 --> 00:48:21.580
interesting that it's perhaps it's from a, like,
1180
00:48:21.580 --> 00:48:25.340
a data gathering perspective. Like, they just, like,
1181
00:48:25.340 --> 00:48:27.020
they just want to ingest everything. They just
1182
00:48:27.020 --> 00:48:28.300
want to know everything. They want to, you
1183
00:48:28.300 --> 00:48:30.460
know, have the details on this. But I
1184
00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:32.660
think that last point is the really interesting
1185
00:48:32.660 --> 00:48:35.000
one about the sort of, you know, the
1186
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.140
quantum side of this, where it's like, you
1187
00:48:37.140 --> 00:48:40.240
could very much see them marketing this solution.
1188
00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:42.880
Like, if in a couple months, they're like,
1189
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.040
we have the only, you know, post -quantum
1190
00:48:45.040 --> 00:48:48.520
encryption safe custody, you know, custody solution for
1191
00:48:48.520 --> 00:48:51.340
institutions. And if you don't use it, boy,
1192
00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:53.500
you're, you know, it's basically a breach of
1193
00:48:53.500 --> 00:48:55.740
fiduciaring duty, you know, like, you could see
1194
00:48:55.740 --> 00:48:59.180
that playing out. You could very clearly see
1195
00:48:59.180 --> 00:49:01.240
that sort of thing playing out. But I
1196
00:49:01.240 --> 00:49:03.360
don't know, I think, like, for now, I'll
1197
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:04.960
think, okay, yeah, probably they're just like seeing
1198
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:06.180
the writing on the wall and want to
1199
00:49:06.180 --> 00:49:08.480
get, you know, want to get involved in
1200
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.460
this and start milking this, this crypto cow.
1201
00:49:12.460 --> 00:49:14.720
But then the other part is, it seems
1202
00:49:14.720 --> 00:49:16.380
like this is a play to be. be
1203
00:49:16.380 --> 00:49:22.500
able to dovetail their quantum research with this
1204
00:49:22.500 --> 00:49:25.760
solution and use one to market the other.
1205
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:28.640
That to me seems like a potential, like,
1206
00:49:28.640 --> 00:49:31.120
that would make sense to me. Yeah. Well,
1207
00:49:31.120 --> 00:49:32.140
the other one that jumps out at me
1208
00:49:32.140 --> 00:49:34.640
would be, because I think that from the
1209
00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:36.260
things that I've seen, I think Google has
1210
00:49:36.260 --> 00:49:38.000
trying to position themselves almost on the harness
1211
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:39.740
position for the different AI products that are
1212
00:49:39.740 --> 00:49:41.580
out there. They're trying to maybe find that
1213
00:49:41.580 --> 00:49:43.820
niche, something that they're going after. And so
1214
00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:44.880
I wonder if they're looking at it even
1215
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.580
from like an agent to agent page. rail
1216
00:49:46.580 --> 00:49:49.360
thing. If they're thinking of using probably stables,
1217
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.480
I'd love it with Bitcoin, but it'd probably
1218
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.760
be stable for agent to agent payments, they're
1219
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:54.280
trying to be kind of the glue in
1220
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.220
the ecosystem versus having Gemini be like the
1221
00:49:56.220 --> 00:49:59.180
top model. I'm not opposed to that. I
1222
00:49:59.180 --> 00:50:00.740
like stables too, by the way. Like, stables
1223
00:50:00.740 --> 00:50:03.080
as a payment rails are better than almost
1224
00:50:03.080 --> 00:50:05.640
everything else. Um, sort of value, different story
1225
00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:07.300
depending on where you are. But yeah, I,
1226
00:50:07.300 --> 00:50:09.820
man, I, I'm not, I don't think, I
1227
00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:11.140
know we're kind of like down talking it
1228
00:50:11.140 --> 00:50:12.700
or sideways talking it. I'm not against any
1229
00:50:12.700 --> 00:50:13.820
of this. I want to see them try
1230
00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:15.040
it. Let's see what they got. I think
1231
00:50:15.040 --> 00:50:18.920
these guys have all the horses, all the
1232
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.060
fucking firepower. Let's, let's see what they're made
1233
00:50:21.060 --> 00:50:23.060
of. Open source copies closed source, right? The
1234
00:50:23.060 --> 00:50:24.300
closed source does it. They make a bunch
1235
00:50:24.300 --> 00:50:25.240
of money off of it and then we
1236
00:50:25.240 --> 00:50:27.000
copied in an open source form. Yeah, yeah,
1237
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.840
exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Now it's there
1238
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.440
is a such thing as there is no
1239
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:34.060
closed source anymore, right? Like, it's just, you
1240
00:50:34.060 --> 00:50:37.380
can just deconstruct it all. Like, it's, uh,
1241
00:50:37.380 --> 00:50:40.760
the, those days are, are behind us now.
1242
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:42.460
And I don't think the world has really
1243
00:50:42.460 --> 00:50:45.700
realized that quite yet. But, uh, On the
1244
00:50:45.700 --> 00:50:48.000
Google front, I'm going to take us to
1245
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.500
break now, but that's not the only information
1246
00:50:50.500 --> 00:50:54.500
that they were dropping about something new with
1247
00:50:54.500 --> 00:50:57.920
this crypto custody thing. But also, it seems
1248
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.460
they may have joined the race in a
1249
00:51:01.460 --> 00:51:04.040
meaningful way to be near the top of
1250
00:51:04.040 --> 00:51:07.680
the spots with their latest frontier model, too.
1251
00:51:07.680 --> 00:51:08.940
So we're going to cover that in a
1252
00:51:08.940 --> 00:51:12.440
second. And then also, probably the weirdest bug
1253
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:16.320
disclosure for Bitcoin Core I've ever seen. but
1254
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.380
I'm going to play a little video after
1255
00:51:18.380 --> 00:51:22.320
the break too. I don't I don't even
1256
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.920
know what to say about it. Best segue
1257
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:26.660
ever. Good job, sir. Yeah, yeah, we'll be
1258
00:51:26.660 --> 00:51:29.060
back a minute. Everybody drop those comments. A
1259
00:51:29.060 --> 00:51:33.540
little Joey job there. Toss some chairs. I
1260
00:51:33.540 --> 00:51:35.000
was going to say that makes me feel
1261
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.940
a lot better. Whatever I just saw makes
1262
00:51:36.940 --> 00:51:39.940
me feel great. Dude, I mean, you'll see
1263
00:51:39.940 --> 00:51:42.240
the video. Anyways, we'll be back in just
1264
00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:45.520
a moment. Unless for some reason you think
1265
00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:47.560
they're about to stop printing and stop borrowing,
1266
00:51:47.560 --> 00:51:49.280
you know exactly where Bitcoin is going. And
1267
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:50.880
whether your stack is already at the size,
1268
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:51.780
where you know you should do something about
1269
00:51:51.780 --> 00:51:53.240
it, or it's headed there, it's time your
1270
00:51:53.240 --> 00:51:55.420
security caught up. That's why you need CASA
1271
00:51:55.420 --> 00:51:58.500
premium. Your Bitcoin secured across five keys. Three
1272
00:51:58.500 --> 00:52:00.260
on hardware from different vendors, one on your
1273
00:52:00.260 --> 00:52:02.400
phone, and one held by CASA. Use any
1274
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:03.660
three to sign, which means if you lose
1275
00:52:03.660 --> 00:52:05.460
one key, you don't lose your stack. It
1276
00:52:05.460 --> 00:52:07.080
also means that CASA can't move it without
1277
00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:08.980
you. The kit, devices and everything that goes
1278
00:52:08.980 --> 00:52:10.160
with it, ships right to your door, and
1279
00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:11.840
their advisory team walks you through the full
1280
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:13.300
setup. For those of you who care about
1281
00:52:13.300 --> 00:52:14.880
privacy as much as I do, there's no
1282
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.800
KYC on the vault. Use any email you
1283
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:18.340
like, use any address you like. No one
1284
00:52:18.340 --> 00:52:20.220
has to know your personal details. I know
1285
00:52:20.220 --> 00:52:21.380
what you're thinking? What if something happens to
1286
00:52:21.380 --> 00:52:23.180
Kasa? What about my family? Well, Sob and
1287
00:52:23.180 --> 00:52:24.800
recover means that you can always rebuild using
1288
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:26.700
open source tools like Sparrow. And as for
1289
00:52:26.700 --> 00:52:28.840
your family, CASA inheritance means you're not leaving
1290
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.440
them a locked box with no key. You
1291
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:31.740
invite them with an email and their key
1292
00:52:31.740 --> 00:52:33.380
lies dormant while you're still alive, and should
1293
00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:35.020
that day ever come, you don't have to
1294
00:52:35.020 --> 00:52:36.360
worry about them having to figure it out
1295
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.100
when you're not around to ask. You've already
1296
00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:39.820
taken care of it. So head to Kasa
1297
00:52:39.820 --> 00:52:42.260
.io slash Sessions, promo code sessions, to receive
1298
00:52:42.260 --> 00:52:44.540
10 % off your first year. That's cossa
1299
00:52:44.540 --> 00:52:47.260
.io slash sessions, code sessions. Click the link
1300
00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:48.560
in the description down below or scan the
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00:52:48.560 --> 00:52:51.280
QR code on the screen. One company I
1302
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.360
like pointing people to when they ask about
1303
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.520
Bitcoin mining is abundant mines. They were founded
1304
00:52:56.520 --> 00:52:59.160
by Beau and Christine Turner after losing over
1305
00:52:59.160 --> 00:53:01.700
half a million dollars to broken promises in
1306
00:53:01.700 --> 00:53:04.000
the mining industry, and they built their hosting
1307
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.760
model to remove the usual headaches. With abundant
1308
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.600
mines, you own your machines and keep 100
1309
00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:11.960
% of the Bitcoin you mine. There's no
1310
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.960
revenue no hidden skims. Pricing is simple. One
1311
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:18.960
flat monthly fee covers power, parts, labor, and
1312
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:22.280
repairs. They also guarantee uptime. If a machine
1313
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.100
goes down, their hash rate redirect system, routes
1314
00:53:25.100 --> 00:53:27.460
hash power from their fleet, so earnings don't
1315
00:53:27.460 --> 00:53:30.280
just stop, and every machine is insured at
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00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.460
full replacement value. Everything is hosted in the
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U .S., powered by hydro, and mining equipment
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may qualify for 100 % year -one bonus
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depreciation. Learn more at Abundant Minds. dot com
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slash sessions. Okay, I got to go for
1321
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:48.680
it. Okay, you I do. Okay, now I'm
1322
00:53:48.680 --> 00:53:49.280
going to jump in. I'm going to jump
1323
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:50.580
in super quick. By the way, if it
1324
00:53:50.580 --> 00:53:52.280
wasn't apparent that I was very, very jet
1325
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.880
-legged, but I did find a picture here
1326
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:57.880
of a giant bohemian. I just want to
1327
00:53:57.880 --> 00:53:59.580
make sure I got that clear, giant bohemian.
1328
00:53:59.580 --> 00:54:01.240
I believe he's also now head of marketing
1329
00:54:01.240 --> 00:54:03.020
at Ocean. I think I think you mean
1330
00:54:03.020 --> 00:54:07.680
Bavarian. My prompts are just going all over
1331
00:54:07.680 --> 00:54:09.940
the place today. That's it. A Bavarian, bohemian.
1332
00:54:09.940 --> 00:54:14.680
Yeah. Okay. We were talking about all these
1333
00:54:14.680 --> 00:54:18.340
exploits and all of this spyware and everything
1334
00:54:18.340 --> 00:54:20.760
on devices. Just this other random thing that
1335
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.040
came across my feet on the break here.
1336
00:54:23.040 --> 00:54:26.700
This is pretty wild. This dude, he, again,
1337
00:54:26.700 --> 00:54:28.760
on his phone here, first of all, he
1338
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:33.080
went through and he had permanently deleted all
1339
00:54:33.080 --> 00:54:35.880
these different photos. Anyways, it found it on
1340
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:42.740
his device and on his cloud account. 145
1341
00:54:42.740 --> 00:54:46.520
,000 plus photos that he had, quote, unquote,
1342
00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:51.700
permanently deleted, just still stored and hidden away.
1343
00:54:51.700 --> 00:54:56.180
Then, he also found 14 ,219 photos of
1344
00:54:56.180 --> 00:54:58.920
his face on his Android phone that he
1345
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.600
never took. The thing was just taking photos
1346
00:55:01.600 --> 00:55:04.280
basically every single time he picked it up.
1347
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:08.920
So, yeah, everything is watching you. Anyways, let's
1348
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.820
get to that bug disclosure. Enjoy this one,
1349
00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:15.200
everybody. What's the deal with AI finding security
1350
00:55:15.200 --> 00:55:18.180
holes? I don't want a computer telling me,
1351
00:55:18.180 --> 00:55:20.160
your security is terrible. You're going to lose
1352
00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:23.080
all your money. I want it saying, Mr.
1353
00:55:23.080 --> 00:55:25.460
Seinfeld, I cured your cancer and did your
1354
00:55:25.460 --> 00:55:32.920
shopping for you. Bitcoin inflation bug, Jerry, I'm
1355
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:35.000
going to be rich. You're not a hacker.
1356
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.000
I don't need to be. I've got AI.
1357
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:43.320
the plan. Something about undo files. First, buy
1358
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:50.940
a mining farm. So good. The AI says,
1359
00:55:50.940 --> 00:55:53.640
hash power to mine 5 ,000 preparatory blocks,
1360
00:55:53.640 --> 00:55:56.320
a 32 -bit undue file offset overflow, compatible
1361
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:59.140
undo records, matching parent hashes, a perfectly timed
1362
00:55:59.140 --> 00:56:01.540
re -org, then extra coins. You understand any
1363
00:56:01.540 --> 00:56:10.140
of that? I understood extra coins. I can't
1364
00:56:10.140 --> 00:56:12.460
afford a mining farm, and I've spent over
1365
00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:16.280
$1 ,000 on AI tokens. How much Bitcoin
1366
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.960
did you make? Nothing. The only thing you
1367
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:25.960
inflated was your bill. Anyways, that's a real
1368
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:31.920
bug disclosure. There's an inflation bug, but the
1369
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.220
set of circumstances that it would take to
1370
00:56:35.220 --> 00:56:38.760
actually exploit it is literally you'd have to
1371
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:42.140
mine 5 ,000 blocks in a row and
1372
00:56:42.140 --> 00:56:45.260
then you'd have to like basically it's it's
1373
00:56:45.260 --> 00:56:48.440
a very convoluted thing but it's still there
1374
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.980
they did ship the patch to prevent even
1375
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:56.480
that from happening but yeah great great disclosure
1376
00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:00.280
there there's also a couple other things and
1377
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:01.800
I'll bring up to you tf tf tz
1378
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:07.260
post two memory exhaustion vulnerabilities both rated medium
1379
00:57:07.260 --> 00:57:10.780
so First allows a malicious peer to cause
1380
00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:14.220
unbounded memory growth by pretending not to support
1381
00:57:14.220 --> 00:57:17.860
BIP 31 non -st pings. This affects all
1382
00:57:17.860 --> 00:57:20.560
platforms. The second lets an attacker send TCP
1383
00:57:20.560 --> 00:57:23.940
urgent data to bypass back pressure limits and
1384
00:57:23.940 --> 00:57:27.760
crash any Windows, Mac, or BSD node. Linux
1385
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:32.480
not affected. Basically, you can crash people's nodes
1386
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:36.800
by flooding it with data and, you know,
1387
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.000
taken down the memory. all that kind of
1388
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:43.920
stuff yeah uh thoughts update your notes i
1389
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:50.420
guess blake to b doesn't have this problem
1390
00:57:50.420 --> 00:57:52.220
you know it's funny i saw a bunch
1391
00:57:52.220 --> 00:57:53.740
of those comments in the reply and i
1392
00:57:53.740 --> 00:57:54.800
was trying to figure it over sure i
1393
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.680
was i'm pretty sure they do because they
1394
00:57:56.680 --> 00:57:58.120
would have been building off an older version
1395
00:57:58.120 --> 00:58:00.380
of core so they absolutely do but good
1396
00:58:00.380 --> 00:58:02.280
thing they've got a giant team of devs
1397
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:03.980
working behind the scenes to get that patch
1398
00:58:03.980 --> 00:58:05.640
out there right away make sure everything is
1399
00:58:05.640 --> 00:58:07.340
super sweet and secure as the price continues
1400
00:58:07.340 --> 00:58:10.800
to drop. Yeah. And all the miners are
1401
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:13.060
super keen to continue mining into the, what
1402
00:58:13.060 --> 00:58:15.980
is the 90 day delay now? Still, no,
1403
00:58:15.980 --> 00:58:18.540
it's at 45 days. They still haven't gotten,
1404
00:58:18.540 --> 00:58:20.380
that still unlock hasn't still happened and the
1405
00:58:20.380 --> 00:58:21.740
price is still crashing down. That thing is
1406
00:58:21.740 --> 00:58:24.160
just a dumpster fire. It's done. It's over.
1407
00:58:24.160 --> 00:58:25.620
It's like, just take it up back and
1408
00:58:25.620 --> 00:58:27.140
shoot it. Pull it up. I'm too busy
1409
00:58:27.140 --> 00:58:31.140
clank, I haven't even been. Last I saw
1410
00:58:31.140 --> 00:58:33.520
somebody sharing a chart, it was three, 300
1411
00:58:33.520 --> 00:58:34.700
something. At one point, it was like a
1412
00:58:34.700 --> 00:58:37.320
thousand. $300 more than it's worth. That's important.
1413
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.000
That's a lot for that. Oh, what I
1414
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.060
see in the chat, 180. Is that what
1415
00:58:41.060 --> 00:58:42.640
it's at now? Oh, so I got cut
1416
00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:43.660
in half a gag. Only 180 more than
1417
00:58:43.660 --> 00:58:46.420
it's worth. Yeah. You can always lose another
1418
00:58:46.420 --> 00:58:49.160
50 %, right? Don't forget. Don't forget. Always
1419
00:58:49.160 --> 00:58:53.180
lose more voice. I just love the disclosures.
1420
00:58:53.180 --> 00:58:54.820
It's good to see that, you know, someone
1421
00:58:54.820 --> 00:58:57.580
somewhere has like unlimited tokens and unencumbered access
1422
00:58:57.580 --> 00:58:59.980
to a model and they're finding like holes
1423
00:58:59.980 --> 00:59:02.440
in the Bitcoin, I guess, you know, I
1424
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:03.280
don't want to call it a hole, but
1425
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.040
it's a vulnerability, let's call it. And they
1426
00:59:05.040 --> 00:59:07.020
have so much extra firepower that they make
1427
00:59:07.020 --> 00:59:10.000
a Seinfeld video after. That's good. I'm glad
1428
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:11.740
to see that. We can't get access to
1429
00:59:11.740 --> 00:59:13.240
those models, of course. But the people who
1430
00:59:13.240 --> 00:59:14.680
do, it's good to see they're using it
1431
00:59:14.680 --> 00:59:16.740
in the right way. Great. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
1432
00:59:16.740 --> 00:59:20.360
I like it. I feel like this is,
1433
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.440
I don't, I can't tell if this is
1434
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:25.740
real, if this is said and jest. But
1435
00:59:25.740 --> 00:59:31.140
anyways, XRP, probably Safu right now, yeah. Yeah,
1436
00:59:31.140 --> 00:59:34.200
anyways, I also wanted to highlight, we got
1437
00:59:34.200 --> 00:59:35.420
off a little bit. it but I wanted
1438
00:59:35.420 --> 00:59:42.940
to mention Google Gemini for carbon. And the
1439
00:59:42.940 --> 00:59:45.700
rankings on this put it right up with
1440
00:59:45.700 --> 00:59:53.840
a ton of the frontier models. So what,
1441
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:57.700
artificial analysis intelligence index, it's right to the
1442
00:59:57.700 --> 01:00:01.900
top. Artificial Analysis Coding Agent Index, it's just
1443
01:00:01.900 --> 01:00:06.740
behind Claude Code Opus, 5. 5 .5 max.
1444
01:00:06.740 --> 01:00:10.640
So Google jumping a number of spots to
1445
01:00:10.640 --> 01:00:13.180
be right up there with the big voice.
1446
01:00:13.180 --> 01:00:14.660
This is which one, Ben? What is the
1447
01:00:14.660 --> 01:00:16.600
name on that one? It should be though,
1448
01:00:16.600 --> 01:00:20.000
right? It's called Gemini for carbon. Yeah, what
1449
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.020
about, okay, yeah, it should be. You're right,
1450
01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:23.100
Walker. I agree with you there. But I'm
1451
01:00:23.100 --> 01:00:26.260
wondering, like, I have Gemini open and I
1452
01:00:26.260 --> 01:00:29.560
see, I have a pro account, and I
1453
01:00:29.560 --> 01:00:31.500
don't see carbon, I see Argon. So is
1454
01:00:31.500 --> 01:00:34.160
this there, Frontier, Frontier? Yeah, this is the
1455
01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:36.620
next one. Gargon came out two weeks ago.
1456
01:00:36.620 --> 01:00:38.680
And they're at O .5 .5. I mean,
1457
01:00:38.680 --> 01:00:39.860
you know, let me know when you get
1458
01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:42.220
closer to Fable, I guess. But like until
1459
01:00:42.220 --> 01:00:44.400
then, you're still, what does this put them
1460
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:46.220
at? When did 5 .5 come out two
1461
01:00:46.220 --> 01:00:49.400
months ago? Yeah. Like, this is still, like,
1462
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.000
man, you know, we just, we just talked
1463
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.660
about how these guys have all the horses
1464
01:00:52.660 --> 01:00:54.780
in the stable that you would want to
1465
01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:57.440
build an AI company. They own the compute.
1466
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.060
They have the IP to like build these
1467
01:01:00.060 --> 01:01:02.980
things. They have the minds. The internet. Yeah.
1468
01:01:02.980 --> 01:01:04.600
You know, to a larger stage. And they're
1469
01:01:04.600 --> 01:01:06.960
behind. And they're behind. Like, how is this
1470
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.080
possible? They just don't care? Like, what is
1471
01:01:09.080 --> 01:01:12.260
it? I have some theories. Tell me. I
1472
01:01:12.260 --> 01:01:18.080
think you know what they are, Joey. We'll
1473
01:01:18.080 --> 01:01:21.220
leave that for another day. We'll leave it
1474
01:01:21.220 --> 01:01:23.380
for the viewer to us. We're starting our
1475
01:01:23.380 --> 01:01:25.440
new hardware company. We're going to be selling
1476
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:27.160
NVIDIA chips. They're going to be in video
1477
01:01:27.160 --> 01:01:32.500
clones called H1B's. The latest hardware for a
1478
01:01:32.500 --> 01:01:37.860
guy, another Indian. But it is true. Like,
1479
01:01:37.860 --> 01:01:40.100
there's something to this idea that, like, these
1480
01:01:40.100 --> 01:01:42.180
guys have, should be the frontier of all
1481
01:01:42.180 --> 01:01:45.520
this stuff. There was basically no reason why.
1482
01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:47.160
And this is hard, it's hard to imagine
1483
01:01:47.160 --> 01:01:49.780
this actually being the case that, like, Google
1484
01:01:49.780 --> 01:01:52.800
had this huge head start basically in everything.
1485
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:53.700
Because like you said, Walker, they were at
1486
01:01:53.700 --> 01:01:55.480
the, they were at the, you know. Yeah,
1487
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.020
but so did Netscape and so did Yahoo.
1488
01:01:58.020 --> 01:02:00.160
Like, there was somebody that was going to
1489
01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:02.160
overthrow them in. And so did Skype. But
1490
01:02:02.160 --> 01:02:04.380
they didn't have mature markets the way these
1491
01:02:04.380 --> 01:02:06.660
guys do. Like, these guys have mature markets
1492
01:02:06.660 --> 01:02:07.940
now in the internet. We're at the, like
1493
01:02:07.940 --> 01:02:09.320
these guys, for example, when it came to
1494
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.320
the phones, right, they had the, they had
1495
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:13.300
the, they had the, I think they were
1496
01:02:13.300 --> 01:02:16.000
called the Nexus phones for a while. Like
1497
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.140
the in -house hardware, in -house chips, in
1498
01:02:19.140 --> 01:02:21.320
-house, like, all that stuff was made by
1499
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.200
them or like a one -step manufacturer. So
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01:02:24.200 --> 01:02:25.700
you're talking like, we're talking about like a
1501
01:02:25.700 --> 01:02:28.900
smile value curve of hardware manufacturing. These guys
1502
01:02:28.900 --> 01:02:32.380
had the whole thing. And 10 years later,
1503
01:02:32.380 --> 01:02:34.420
I still remember during the pandemic, investing podcast
1504
01:02:34.420 --> 01:02:36.220
going out. Apple, king of the smile curve,
1505
01:02:36.220 --> 01:02:38.540
these guys had it a decade before and
1506
01:02:38.540 --> 01:02:40.300
dropped the ball. And then you're talking about
1507
01:02:40.300 --> 01:02:42.760
AI. You're talking about, you know, whether it's
1508
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.120
like these Chrome books or Chrome browser or
1509
01:02:45.120 --> 01:02:47.000
whatever. Well, don't forget, you have all the
1510
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:48.960
major problems that come with like basically turning
1511
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.760
into a socialist country like Canada. That happens
1512
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:53.200
when these companies get to that size. You
1513
01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:55.420
got HR departments. You think it's that too,
1514
01:02:55.420 --> 01:02:56.840
eh? Yes, they're going to start to move
1515
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:58.620
slower. Like, I wouldn't be surprised to see
1516
01:02:58.620 --> 01:03:01.880
Google get dethroned by SpayX. It definitely could
1517
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:02.680
be a human resources issue. It definitely could
1518
01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:04.120
be a human resources issue. People could be
1519
01:03:04.120 --> 01:03:05.440
lying on their residence. amazes to get into
1520
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:06.700
certain countries in order to get jobs that
1521
01:03:06.700 --> 01:03:08.700
they want. Is that really a big problem,
1522
01:03:08.700 --> 01:03:10.680
you think? I think so. I think when
1523
01:03:10.680 --> 01:03:12.660
ever did you guys get that is that
1524
01:03:12.660 --> 01:03:14.720
is that is that really a big problem?
1525
01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:17.980
Yeah. Oh, okay. Hey, oh, drum kits behind.
1526
01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:20.380
That was nice. Half the shot is like
1527
01:03:20.380 --> 01:03:21.980
yeah, another half's like I don't I don't
1528
01:03:21.980 --> 01:03:25.140
get it. You're always going to have the
1529
01:03:25.140 --> 01:03:27.120
problems with these behemists and there is, like,
1530
01:03:27.120 --> 01:03:28.580
Like we always think that it's impossible for
1531
01:03:28.580 --> 01:03:30.060
them to get overthrown, but then you have
1532
01:03:30.060 --> 01:03:32.740
some nimble company get some advantage, start building
1533
01:03:32.740 --> 01:03:34.580
up momentum. And it's possible that they get,
1534
01:03:34.580 --> 01:03:35.740
they get, they get, push back. Think about
1535
01:03:35.740 --> 01:03:37.920
how much time they're probably wasting on Gemini
1536
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.400
compliance, right? In terms of like, what is
1537
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.220
it saying? Is it saying all the politically
1538
01:03:42.220 --> 01:03:43.680
correct things? Is in line with what we
1539
01:03:43.680 --> 01:03:46.700
deem acceptable? That they're neutering their own models
1540
01:03:46.700 --> 01:03:48.060
along the way and how much of an
1541
01:03:48.060 --> 01:03:49.740
impact they would have. If you're just going
1542
01:03:49.740 --> 01:03:52.260
for the best of the best, pure meritocracy,
1543
01:03:52.260 --> 01:03:54.780
you want to have the top AI model,
1544
01:03:54.780 --> 01:03:55.900
you're not going to be trying to slow
1545
01:03:55.900 --> 01:03:58.540
it down by saying, whoa, whoa, that's some
1546
01:03:58.540 --> 01:04:01.720
uncomfortable information with regards to demographics and IQ.
1547
01:04:01.720 --> 01:04:03.380
You can't have that. And trying to filter
1548
01:04:03.380 --> 01:04:05.620
out. You're always trying to to get rid
1549
01:04:05.620 --> 01:04:06.960
of information. If you can just let it
1550
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:09.260
take the data as it is, regardless of
1551
01:04:09.260 --> 01:04:10.700
the outcome, you're going to end up having
1552
01:04:10.700 --> 01:04:12.920
the better model. Do you guys remember when
1553
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.600
when Gemini was like first like kind of
1554
01:04:15.600 --> 01:04:18.340
coming out and how their image generation was
1555
01:04:18.340 --> 01:04:20.460
working when it was like, Genente, American Founding
1556
01:04:20.460 --> 01:04:22.340
Fathers? and it was like, they're all black.
1557
01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:25.800
Yeah. Give me a picture of your stereotypical
1558
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:29.800
Swedish family. Yeah, it was Netflix Swedes. Yeah.
1559
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:31.420
I mean, yeah, it was, yeah, super Netflix
1560
01:04:31.420 --> 01:04:33.220
coded. But like, that's the thing like i
1561
01:04:33.220 --> 01:04:35.140
think nathan that's a very good point just
1562
01:04:35.140 --> 01:04:38.020
like the the cost of the cost of
1563
01:04:38.020 --> 01:04:39.700
wokeness and the cost of compliance and these
1564
01:04:39.700 --> 01:04:42.500
things slight digression but one thing that like
1565
01:04:42.500 --> 01:04:43.980
we talked about how opus 5 .5 is
1566
01:04:43.980 --> 01:04:46.060
what a couple months ago and it was
1567
01:04:46.060 --> 01:04:47.720
honestly one of the like around them was
1568
01:04:47.720 --> 01:04:50.060
like when i started using claude like really
1569
01:04:50.060 --> 01:04:52.460
really really hard um and then just like
1570
01:04:52.460 --> 01:04:54.520
you know now like maxed out the plan
1571
01:04:54.520 --> 01:04:56.420
that i can get because it's it's fucking
1572
01:04:56.420 --> 01:04:58.760
worth it um so much it's so fucking
1573
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:00.860
worth it it's actually so insanely cheap for
1574
01:05:00.860 --> 01:05:02.800
what it gives me you know that's going
1575
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.740
to be incredible. Given Anthropic just put out
1576
01:05:06.740 --> 01:05:10.320
their S1 and they're going to IPO soon,
1577
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:12.920
you know, leading up the IPO, they've probably,
1578
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:14.720
I bet they've got three different new model
1579
01:05:14.720 --> 01:05:17.100
drops. They've been sitting on it, yep. Anthropic
1580
01:05:17.100 --> 01:05:19.060
does, you think? What about the competitors, the
1581
01:05:19.060 --> 01:05:22.260
guys who are already public? Timing, timing the
1582
01:05:22.260 --> 01:05:24.820
price. They have every financial incentive. Yep, exactly.
1583
01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:27.360
To have the biggest impact right before the
1584
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.800
IPO. Yep, bingo. So that's what they're going
1585
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:31.480
to do. I bet they've been holding some
1586
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:33.480
stuff, fine -tuning it. Even if it's ready
1587
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.680
to go now, just, it's like, not even
1588
01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:36.880
that much better. But I bet they've got
1589
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.060
some that are like, what's the feature, Walker?
1590
01:05:39.060 --> 01:05:40.180
What's the killer thing that you think they're
1591
01:05:40.180 --> 01:05:42.160
hiding on? They're sitting on. I got, I
1592
01:05:42.160 --> 01:05:43.600
got one suggestion. I want to hear yours.
1593
01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:45.880
I'm curious what you think, yeah. It's ImageGen,
1594
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.800
is my guess. Speaking of that, Jim, I
1595
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.380
will say that Gemini is getting a lot
1596
01:05:51.380 --> 01:05:52.900
better. Yeah, yeah, true, exactly. It is getting
1597
01:05:52.900 --> 01:05:54.620
a lot better. So Gemini is not necessarily
1598
01:05:54.620 --> 01:05:56.760
giving us terrible image generation anymore. So just
1599
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:58.860
want to throw that one up there. Sorry,
1600
01:05:58.860 --> 01:06:01.520
Walker, I interrupted. No, you know, never apologize
1601
01:06:01.520 --> 01:06:05.420
for showing a businesswoman on this show, you
1602
01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:08.900
know. She's got, she's worth so many more
1603
01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:12.460
multiples than we will ever be. But yeah,
1604
01:06:12.460 --> 01:06:13.800
Sydney, if you're listening to this right now,
1605
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:15.700
you're welcome to come on this show anytime.
1606
01:06:15.700 --> 01:06:18.640
Anytime, we'll give you the big panel. I
1607
01:06:18.640 --> 01:06:21.320
don't know what that means, Joey, but please
1608
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:22.800
don't listen to Joey. We'll make sure he's
1609
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.020
not here for that episode. Sir, go ahead.
1610
01:06:26.020 --> 01:06:27.340
No, I was just, I think we are
1611
01:06:27.340 --> 01:06:28.840
going to get like, again, we know that
1612
01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:30.380
the whole pace and Frontier thing was absolute
1613
01:06:30.380 --> 01:06:32.980
bullshit. Like, we've talked about that, you know,
1614
01:06:32.980 --> 01:06:34.940
a lot. The whole, you know, with Timu
1615
01:06:34.940 --> 01:06:36.820
Harry Potter and all that shit. It was
1616
01:06:36.820 --> 01:06:39.600
just the most fucking, like, just really blatant
1617
01:06:39.600 --> 01:06:42.080
K -Faib you've ever seen. These guys are
1618
01:06:42.080 --> 01:06:43.740
about to try to go so hard because
1619
01:06:43.740 --> 01:06:46.060
they're going to need to continue justifying these.
1620
01:06:46.060 --> 01:06:47.260
They got to justify, what was it, 1
1621
01:06:47.260 --> 01:06:50.380
.3? 1 .3 trillion, right? Oh, geez, let
1622
01:06:50.380 --> 01:06:51.740
me look up the estimates right now. I
1623
01:06:51.740 --> 01:06:53.380
think it was like two at one point.
1624
01:06:53.380 --> 01:06:55.860
It's high. There's some, there's some, I mean,
1625
01:06:55.860 --> 01:06:57.400
I just to justify it. Yeah, they have
1626
01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:58.840
to, it's getting harder. There's a little bit
1627
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:01.340
of finesse. in the debt structuring too that
1628
01:07:01.340 --> 01:07:02.840
I haven't done to you to but but
1629
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:04.320
um i don't yeah to your point walker
1630
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:05.180
i don't think it matters you know what's
1631
01:07:05.180 --> 01:07:06.560
interesting is you if you look at their
1632
01:07:06.560 --> 01:07:08.860
one point five to two look at their
1633
01:07:08.860 --> 01:07:11.120
run rate um last year compared to this
1634
01:07:11.120 --> 01:07:13.360
year it's down by like almost 70 percent
1635
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:14.980
i'm pretty sure i saw so like they're
1636
01:07:14.980 --> 01:07:16.940
obviously getting better at what they're doing even
1637
01:07:16.940 --> 01:07:19.280
as token costs presumably are dropping for them
1638
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.640
right i i are you are you guys
1639
01:07:21.640 --> 01:07:22.960
i mean i'll just ask you why the
1640
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.700
revenue for employees like six million per employee
1641
01:07:25.700 --> 01:07:27.500
so are you going to buy that's fucking
1642
01:07:27.500 --> 01:07:29.180
insane are you buying in November when they
1643
01:07:29.180 --> 01:07:31.640
go public? No. No? No. No, I'll buy
1644
01:07:31.640 --> 01:07:33.740
some more SpaceX and maybe a little bit
1645
01:07:33.740 --> 01:07:36.660
more MSTR instead now. Okay. Have you considered
1646
01:07:36.660 --> 01:07:37.960
buying Bitcoin? It might be a good idea
1647
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:40.140
too. But the other thing. I buy Bitcoin
1648
01:07:40.140 --> 01:07:42.860
twice every hour of every day. There we
1649
01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:45.020
go. I love it. Thank you for being
1650
01:07:45.020 --> 01:07:46.940
the floor that we need. I'll just say
1651
01:07:46.940 --> 01:07:49.080
the only the only thing that I, if
1652
01:07:49.080 --> 01:07:50.380
I were to make a like a guess
1653
01:07:50.380 --> 01:07:52.360
as to what Anthropics going to drop leading
1654
01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:54.240
up to the IPO, because it's one of
1655
01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:56.100
the things that I found that seems really
1656
01:07:56.100 --> 01:07:57.840
kneecapped for some reason and I don't know
1657
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:01.040
why. It's the voice dictation, like having the
1658
01:08:01.040 --> 01:08:03.140
voice chat with an agent that's then dictating
1659
01:08:03.140 --> 01:08:05.200
an army of agents. I can sometimes call
1660
01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:06.700
up that feature. I sometimes have to fight
1661
01:08:06.700 --> 01:08:08.380
with it to call up that feature, where
1662
01:08:08.380 --> 01:08:09.940
me and the voice bot are going through
1663
01:08:09.940 --> 01:08:11.900
everything. And then it's dictating to different agents
1664
01:08:11.900 --> 01:08:13.280
working on the project, what to do. You're
1665
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:15.980
talking about orchestration, right? Yeah, yeah. Basically like
1666
01:08:15.980 --> 01:08:18.060
voice chat orchestration for an army of bots.
1667
01:08:18.060 --> 01:08:19.200
I bet you that's the next feature of
1668
01:08:19.200 --> 01:08:21.160
the drop. It's like a permanent thing. Well,
1669
01:08:21.160 --> 01:08:22.880
that's what they're doing. That's what Anthropic is
1670
01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.480
doing with, was it duo or duet? Like,
1671
01:08:25.480 --> 01:08:27.800
that's their, that's their response to Grockbot. Because
1672
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.780
Grockbot's fucking amazing. Did it ever come Outwalker,
1673
01:08:30.780 --> 01:08:31.900
the duet thing? I know we talked about
1674
01:08:31.900 --> 01:08:33.200
it. I don't remember ever seen it in
1675
01:08:33.200 --> 01:08:34.320
my cloud. It's in a research preview right
1676
01:08:34.320 --> 01:08:36.840
now. I submitted to, like, get it, but
1677
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:37.900
there's no way they're going to give me,
1678
01:08:37.900 --> 01:08:40.400
you know, early exodus. I'll be throw my
1679
01:08:40.400 --> 01:08:43.320
hat in the ring, you know? But, like,
1680
01:08:43.320 --> 01:08:44.460
I think that that is one of the
1681
01:08:44.460 --> 01:08:47.080
most, like, useful things. Like, I use Grockbot
1682
01:08:47.080 --> 01:08:50.820
for probably the majority of my, like, hey,
1683
01:08:50.820 --> 01:08:51.980
I just like, either I have a, I
1684
01:08:51.980 --> 01:08:53.300
have a question. I need to get, like,
1685
01:08:53.300 --> 01:08:54.700
something done quickly. I need to set a
1686
01:08:54.700 --> 01:08:56.240
reminder for myself. I need to, like, whatever
1687
01:08:56.240 --> 01:08:57.900
it might be. but then also for like
1688
01:08:57.900 --> 01:08:59.540
deep research on stuff, because I also know
1689
01:08:59.540 --> 01:09:01.720
it's tied into X directly. And that's a
1690
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:03.980
super, super nice thing to be able to
1691
01:09:03.980 --> 01:09:05.660
get really real -time data on that. So,
1692
01:09:05.660 --> 01:09:07.740
like, from a research perspective, it's awesome. And
1693
01:09:07.740 --> 01:09:09.620
it's also just like, that's a good experience.
1694
01:09:09.620 --> 01:09:10.760
You pull up your primary. Now you can
1695
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.140
do, I have like, I have the fucking
1696
01:09:12.140 --> 01:09:16.200
hotkey now. So what is it? Literally just
1697
01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:19.440
like a hotkey Grockbot now on my iPhone.
1698
01:09:19.440 --> 01:09:21.740
Hey, hey, what's up? Can you tell me
1699
01:09:21.740 --> 01:09:24.680
something that'll make Joey from Canadian bitcoins, pee
1700
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:30.260
himself? I love the energy. No, okay, that's
1701
01:09:30.260 --> 01:09:32.720
enough for me. All I really wanted to
1702
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:34.620
know there is what voice you're using. You
1703
01:09:34.620 --> 01:09:36.080
got to know what voice people choose for
1704
01:09:36.080 --> 01:09:37.280
the boss. I assume he's using Karlobaugh, but
1705
01:09:37.280 --> 01:09:39.440
maybe I'm mistaken. I haven't figured out to
1706
01:09:39.440 --> 01:09:40.860
tie it in yet, because you have to
1707
01:09:40.860 --> 01:09:45.140
get special access to the XAI's developer program.
1708
01:09:45.140 --> 01:09:47.500
They haven't given us yet. But no, I
1709
01:09:47.500 --> 01:09:49.680
use a British one because I like to
1710
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.320
think it's sort of like, it's like reverse
1711
01:09:51.320 --> 01:09:53.600
colonialism a little bit. You know, it's like,
1712
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.260
making them your slave. I love it. Exactly.
1713
01:09:56.260 --> 01:09:58.260
Exactly. That's like, what do you use, Joey?
1714
01:09:58.260 --> 01:09:59.660
Like a, kind of like a, maybe like
1715
01:09:59.660 --> 01:10:02.620
a Punjabi accent? Mine is a standard, the
1716
01:10:02.620 --> 01:10:04.380
standard, I think his name is Liam and
1717
01:10:04.380 --> 01:10:07.960
Claude, the regular guy. Oh, interesting. Yeah, the
1718
01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:10.360
regular guy. I will say, listen, I. Use
1719
01:10:10.360 --> 01:10:13.100
a male assistant then. I have actually started
1720
01:10:13.100 --> 01:10:14.500
talking to the clankton. I don't take orders
1721
01:10:14.500 --> 01:10:16.160
from women. I'm not using Well, I'm, I
1722
01:10:16.160 --> 01:10:17.440
talk to the clanker while I'm walking my
1723
01:10:17.440 --> 01:10:18.720
dog now, which I never thought I would
1724
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.620
do, even a month ago. But it's like
1725
01:10:20.620 --> 01:10:24.460
fucking free hour to get shit done. It's
1726
01:10:24.460 --> 01:10:26.720
unbelievable. how good the stuff is anyway we
1727
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:28.800
talk oh yeah it's it's amazing the the
1728
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.680
chat and through is just like yeah it's
1729
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.340
just just a quick little voice note and
1730
01:10:34.340 --> 01:10:38.160
shit gets done it's amazing yeah uh gents
1731
01:10:38.160 --> 01:10:40.920
i got to pull up a couple things
1732
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.360
here uh i wanted to mention in regards
1733
01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:47.840
to obviously there's been a lot of uh
1734
01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:51.060
chatter and a lot of announcements of bitcoin
1735
01:10:51.060 --> 01:10:57.360
miners dropping off and moving to data centers.
1736
01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:02.880
However, this is notable here, look at the
1737
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:08.280
hash rate. It's almost recovered back to all
1738
01:11:08.280 --> 01:11:10.800
-time highs. So it seems to be coming
1739
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:15.080
back a little bit with, you know, throughout
1740
01:11:15.080 --> 01:11:16.720
the summer. Obviously, we had the bump in
1741
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:18.780
price, so that's going to impact it. But,
1742
01:11:18.780 --> 01:11:21.700
you know, from a lot of those announcements
1743
01:11:21.700 --> 01:11:27.620
of miners moving to AI data centers. I
1744
01:11:27.620 --> 01:11:30.280
mean, are we a little surprised that with
1745
01:11:30.280 --> 01:11:32.620
not that much of a price bump, we're
1746
01:11:32.620 --> 01:11:36.200
already pushing up against previous all -time highs
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01:11:36.200 --> 01:11:37.620
of hash rate? I want to get the
1748
01:11:37.620 --> 01:11:39.280
boys' takes on this while I look for
1749
01:11:39.280 --> 01:11:41.000
some more information. Holy shit, I found it,
1750
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.460
Joey. The other thing, chat, you'll know soon
1751
01:11:43.460 --> 01:11:45.800
enough. The only thing that immediately jumps out
1752
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:48.360
to mind is that if you had geopolitical
1753
01:11:48.360 --> 01:11:50.960
tensions with regards to even an existing dollar
1754
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:52.940
framework, that there might be an incentive for
1755
01:11:52.940 --> 01:11:54.780
some of those companies to start taking cheap
1756
01:11:54.780 --> 01:11:57.540
energy. and turning on hash. So I'm not
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01:11:57.540 --> 01:11:59.260
surprised to see this bump up at all,
1758
01:11:59.260 --> 01:12:02.400
but maybe Walker, you see something different. No,
1759
01:12:02.400 --> 01:12:03.680
I do not, Nathan. I see the exact
1760
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:05.900
same thing. I think that this is like,
1761
01:12:05.900 --> 01:12:09.280
you know, Bitcoin, I think that Bitcoin is
1762
01:12:09.280 --> 01:12:13.040
a very binary, pun intended, it's a very
1763
01:12:13.040 --> 01:12:17.060
binary thing. Like, it's either failing or it's
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01:12:17.060 --> 01:12:19.400
repriced in the entire world. There is not
1765
01:12:19.400 --> 01:12:22.300
really an in -between, right? So, like, that
1766
01:12:22.300 --> 01:12:23.520
hash rate was either going to keep going
1767
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.980
down to zero, because everybody stopped giving a
1768
01:12:25.980 --> 01:12:27.800
fuck, or of course it was going to
1769
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.020
jump back up. Like, of course it was
1770
01:12:31.020 --> 01:12:33.220
going to. And I think that you have
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01:12:33.220 --> 01:12:36.960
also, like, there's been a lot of, a
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01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:38.080
lot, I think there was a lot of
1773
01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:41.520
getting into AI data centers because that was
1774
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:43.420
the trendy, like, that was what was going
1775
01:12:43.420 --> 01:12:45.040
to get your stock to pump. Like, oh,
1776
01:12:45.040 --> 01:12:47.740
look, they've got all this capacity, and now
1777
01:12:47.740 --> 01:12:49.380
they're turn it to AI. Like, boom, you
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01:12:49.380 --> 01:12:51.200
like, send them, you know, triple their stock
1779
01:12:51.200 --> 01:12:55.520
price. And then I think, like, Again, there's,
1780
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:58.000
there's some shenanigans going on in the, in
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01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.180
the, in the, in the AI world in
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01:13:00.180 --> 01:13:02.760
that sense. But like, you know, Bitcoin mining
1783
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:04.700
is a brutal industry, as anybody who's a
1784
01:13:04.700 --> 01:13:07.840
Bitcoin miner will tell you, it's not easy.
1785
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:10.420
But also, Bitcoin mining is not an industry
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01:13:10.420 --> 01:13:13.080
that is confined to the United States. And
1787
01:13:13.080 --> 01:13:15.300
so we're not just looking here, as to
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01:13:15.300 --> 01:13:16.680
your point, Nathan, we're not just looking at
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something that is, oh, this is about publicly
1790
01:13:19.340 --> 01:13:22.360
traded American Bitcoin miners that move to AI
1791
01:13:22.360 --> 01:13:25.320
coming back to, coming back to Bitcoin. I
1792
01:13:25.320 --> 01:13:26.280
don't know if we have the data on
1793
01:13:26.280 --> 01:13:29.000
where the hash rate's coming from, but I
1794
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.300
would guess that it's your point, Nathan, that
1795
01:13:31.300 --> 01:13:33.360
it's probably coming from a lot of different
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01:13:33.360 --> 01:13:36.260
places. And there's probably a lot of, again,
1797
01:13:36.260 --> 01:13:38.060
if you have any sort of stranded energy
1798
01:13:38.060 --> 01:13:40.120
or you have excess energy, especially if you
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01:13:40.120 --> 01:13:42.940
have, let's say, embargoes on being able to
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01:13:42.940 --> 01:13:44.780
move your energy to certain places or sell
1801
01:13:44.780 --> 01:13:46.740
into certain markets, boy, it sure make a
1802
01:13:46.740 --> 01:13:48.180
lot of sense for you to turn that
1803
01:13:48.180 --> 01:13:51.860
excess energy into unfuckable money. But I'm no
1804
01:13:51.860 --> 01:13:55.100
geopolitical strategist. just a humble geologist, so what
1805
01:13:55.100 --> 01:13:56.720
do I know? And if you want to
1806
01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:58.860
make sure that your transactions weren't somehow censored
1807
01:13:58.860 --> 01:14:00.840
and confirmed in the block, you might have
1808
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:02.100
to do it yourself or make sure that
1809
01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:06.340
you have the ability to do so. Joey,
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01:14:06.340 --> 01:14:07.580
Ben, what we got? Ben, you want to
1811
01:14:07.580 --> 01:14:08.420
the next section? It's going to be a
1812
01:14:08.420 --> 01:14:10.140
fun one. Yeah, let's move on. Let's move
1813
01:14:10.140 --> 01:14:11.560
on. We're going to close here. We may
1814
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:15.060
as well close hot. Okay, okay. In the
1815
01:14:15.060 --> 01:14:17.920
chat, every week, there's like three segments, okay.
1816
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:19.740
And the third segment is always something, some
1817
01:14:19.740 --> 01:14:21.520
bullshit that one of us puts in there.
1818
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.300
There's nothing to do with Bitcoin. Sometimes we
1819
01:14:23.300 --> 01:14:26.240
hit it. Sometimes we don't. Ben, tell them
1820
01:14:26.240 --> 01:14:28.160
what the third segment is this way. Okay,
1821
01:14:28.160 --> 01:14:34.420
okay. Oh, boy. Okay. So, God, how do
1822
01:14:34.420 --> 01:14:36.560
I even tee this up? I don't know.
1823
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:38.440
We want to help. We're here to help.
1824
01:14:38.440 --> 01:14:39.480
We're here to help. We have an important
1825
01:14:39.480 --> 01:14:44.100
public service announcement. This is critical for humanity
1826
01:14:44.100 --> 01:14:47.520
moving forward. Oh, okay. What is what is
1827
01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:50.140
going on here? Jennifer Lawrence. Come on. Can
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01:14:50.140 --> 01:14:51.360
you enhance that? We got to zoom in,
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01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:55.440
motherfucker. I mean, whatever. Got it's the, it's
1830
01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:57.960
the, it's the like, and those are professional
1831
01:14:57.960 --> 01:14:59.140
photos too, by the way. This just take
1832
01:14:59.140 --> 01:15:02.660
a moment. That is a professional staged photo.
1833
01:15:02.660 --> 01:15:04.420
You have the best photographer, the best lighting,
1834
01:15:04.420 --> 01:15:06.840
the best editors, and that's the best best
1835
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:09.800
you got. What did they do to her?
1836
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:11.580
Guess, Walker. What do you think they did?
1837
01:15:11.580 --> 01:15:14.160
Without telling him what happened here? What, what
1838
01:15:14.160 --> 01:15:16.200
surgery did she have done? There's two big
1839
01:15:16.200 --> 01:15:17.420
ones to stand out to meet. And I
1840
01:15:17.420 --> 01:15:20.000
think they're the worst. Added something right here
1841
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:22.040
in the... Close, but you're going in the
1842
01:15:22.040 --> 01:15:24.460
wrong direction. And the old mandibles? They pulled
1843
01:15:24.460 --> 01:15:27.060
the bochle fat out. They sucked out the
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01:15:27.060 --> 01:15:29.140
cheek fat out. She's going to get bochle
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01:15:29.140 --> 01:15:31.520
fat re -inserted in like 10 years. What's
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01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:33.140
the other thing? What's the other thing she
1847
01:15:33.140 --> 01:15:35.280
had done? Almost more egregious than that. Bridge
1848
01:15:35.280 --> 01:15:36.920
of the nose. There's something going on the
1849
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:41.000
way. It's facelift. No. She had her hooded.
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01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:42.860
Hooded eyelids. Oh, that's what it was. They
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01:15:42.860 --> 01:15:44.760
took it. They cut the extra skin. They
1852
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:46.980
tuck them up, basically. And you get rid
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01:15:46.980 --> 01:15:48.400
of that hooded eye look. Which, by the
1854
01:15:48.400 --> 01:15:51.260
way, I mean, hooded eyes are a feature
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01:15:51.260 --> 01:15:52.920
that's been in the species for a million
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01:15:52.920 --> 01:15:56.020
years, okay? Like, you can be hot with
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01:15:56.020 --> 01:15:58.200
hooded eyes. There's no, no one is ever
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01:15:58.200 --> 01:16:00.520
going to say, man, that girl's a dime
1859
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.500
except for her hooded eyes. Certainly no fucking,
1860
01:16:03.500 --> 01:16:05.580
like, red -blooded male is going to say
1861
01:16:05.580 --> 01:16:07.560
that. And Ben, scroll down, there is the
1862
01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:08.800
side -by -side photo. You got to get
1863
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:10.440
that side -by -side photo. Pull -up. She
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01:16:10.440 --> 01:16:22.360
was like a nice, not that one. Later.
1865
01:16:22.360 --> 01:16:23.460
where I saw it as we were scrolling
1866
01:16:23.460 --> 01:16:24.880
through. I mean, that's what she used to
1867
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:28.200
look like. Oh, Jesus. It is really, this
1868
01:16:28.200 --> 01:16:29.980
is really dangerous. Guys, I don't know if
1869
01:16:29.980 --> 01:16:31.780
I can scroll. I don't know what's going
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01:16:31.780 --> 01:16:34.760
to up here. The other thing, too, like
1871
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:37.100
in the interview she gave to, to, if
1872
01:16:37.100 --> 01:16:38.740
the interview she gave to the cut, she
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01:16:38.740 --> 01:16:40.720
talks about wanting to be a hot mom.
1874
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.400
And it's like, hot as you get older
1875
01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:47.380
means different things. It's like, when you're 22,
1876
01:16:47.380 --> 01:16:50.020
23 years old, okay, it's like this girl's
1877
01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:51.840
a rocket at the bar. But none of
1878
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:54.620
our wives are. 22 or 23, I mean,
1879
01:16:54.620 --> 01:16:55.940
my wife is more beautiful to me now
1880
01:16:55.940 --> 01:16:57.100
than the day I met her. She's the
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01:16:57.100 --> 01:16:59.520
mother of my child. She's like my partner
1882
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.080
in crime. Like, you know, like all the
1883
01:17:01.080 --> 01:17:03.140
things we do together and have built together.
1884
01:17:03.140 --> 01:17:04.700
That's what beauty looks like as you get
1885
01:17:04.700 --> 01:17:06.140
older. No, no. You mix two things up
1886
01:17:06.140 --> 01:17:07.800
there. I think it's a very key distinction.
1887
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:08.900
And no, no, was that, what was the
1888
01:17:08.900 --> 01:17:10.840
name of that girl from like, she did
1889
01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:12.160
the stuff with like Ryan Reynolds back of
1890
01:17:12.160 --> 01:17:14.220
the day? She was an American pie. And
1891
01:17:14.220 --> 01:17:16.460
she just, she just became like just terrible,
1892
01:17:16.460 --> 01:17:19.520
just awful. Tara. Terror read. Yes. Terri read
1893
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:21.660
is a good example of this. There is.
1894
01:17:21.660 --> 01:17:23.060
And like, ladies. we just need to for
1895
01:17:23.060 --> 01:17:24.160
the 12 of you listening for the love
1896
01:17:24.160 --> 01:17:26.680
of god tell the others there is a
1897
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:30.120
very very clear distinction and any male will
1898
01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:32.000
be able to articulate at least identify it
1899
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.460
there's a difference between hot and beautiful there
1900
01:17:34.460 --> 01:17:36.220
is a very there is a difference between
1901
01:17:36.220 --> 01:17:39.260
hot and beautiful one is also particular only
1902
01:17:39.260 --> 01:17:42.440
with youth and it's fleeting right but women
1903
01:17:42.440 --> 01:17:45.200
can be absolutely gorgeous into their later years
1904
01:17:45.200 --> 01:17:48.720
without a good take that beauty thing look
1905
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:50.040
at this side by side i gotta get
1906
01:17:50.040 --> 01:17:52.780
walker here on this but like The her
1907
01:17:52.780 --> 01:17:55.260
on the right is a very attractive woman.
1908
01:17:55.260 --> 01:17:56.480
She looks great. She's got her makeup done
1909
01:17:56.480 --> 01:17:57.680
right. She knows how to work her face.
1910
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:59.280
It looks wonderful. The person on the left
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01:17:59.280 --> 01:18:01.700
also feels like masculinized to me a little
1912
01:18:01.700 --> 01:18:03.640
bit, too. It doesn't feel as feminine, right?
1913
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:05.480
This feels like it's pulling towards, I dare
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01:18:05.480 --> 01:18:08.100
say it, a young male of some kind.
1915
01:18:08.100 --> 01:18:11.160
I hate these things. I don't think any
1916
01:18:11.160 --> 01:18:13.280
straight man likes it. If you're getting advice
1917
01:18:13.280 --> 01:18:15.480
on plastic surgeries, particularly for your face, which
1918
01:18:15.480 --> 01:18:17.340
is so easy to screw up, it's not
1919
01:18:17.340 --> 01:18:20.300
enhancing it. It's coming from other women and
1920
01:18:20.300 --> 01:18:22.180
it's coming from gay dudes. Straight men do
1921
01:18:22.180 --> 01:18:24.420
not like this look at all. There is
1922
01:18:24.420 --> 01:18:26.140
no dude who walked into a bar and
1923
01:18:26.140 --> 01:18:27.520
go, I'm going to take the one on
1924
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:28.860
the left. Not to mention, it's also a
1925
01:18:28.860 --> 01:18:31.360
clear signal of the high maintenance that you're
1926
01:18:31.360 --> 01:18:32.960
going to be, right? It's a bit of
1927
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:34.820
a warning flag. If you see a girl
1928
01:18:34.820 --> 01:18:36.400
who's at a ton of work done, you
1929
01:18:36.400 --> 01:18:37.880
know that she's going to be expensive and
1930
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:39.880
probably bitchy. And I want nothing to do
1931
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.720
with that narcissistic personality. Men are looking for
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01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.440
beautiful. And also, I could go into so
1933
01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:47.300
many wonderful life lessons about this. If we're
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01:18:47.300 --> 01:18:49.520
thinking about the kind of guy that you
1935
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:51.300
want to attract, you're not looking for. for
1936
01:18:51.300 --> 01:18:52.720
the guy who's with you because you're hot,
1937
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:54.220
because that's fleeting. You want the guy who
1938
01:18:54.220 --> 01:18:55.880
thinks that you're absolutely beautiful, like all of
1939
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:57.760
us think that our wives will, because they're
1940
01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:58.980
the one that's actually going to commit, stick
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01:18:58.980 --> 01:19:00.280
it out in the long run, and do
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01:19:00.280 --> 01:19:01.940
not care about this shit and don't want
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01:19:01.940 --> 01:19:03.560
you to fuck up your face in the
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01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:06.600
coming years. Show, uh, show Mani Moore. Mani
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01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:09.240
more. Oh, my God. Okay. So I went
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01:19:09.240 --> 01:19:10.860
down this rabbit hole today, this like hooded
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01:19:10.860 --> 01:19:13.460
eye surgery. And there's some unbelievable before and
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01:19:13.460 --> 01:19:15.400
afters. I had brought up this one because
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01:19:15.400 --> 01:19:19.040
I remember like the, when Renee Zellweiger did
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01:19:19.040 --> 01:19:20.860
it and people were like, who even is
1951
01:19:20.860 --> 01:19:23.240
that? But this is worse. This one from
1952
01:19:23.240 --> 01:19:28.880
Mandy Moore, unrecognizable. It's jarring. Who is that?
1953
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:34.320
Well, that is unreal. Crazy. And I realized,
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01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:35.300
like, I don't know when that picture on
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01:19:35.300 --> 01:19:36.620
the left is. My guess is she's probably
1956
01:19:36.620 --> 01:19:37.940
10 or 15 years younger in the one
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01:19:37.940 --> 01:19:40.220
on the left, but like, it's a different
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01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:43.200
person. There's no, like, I'm not a, you
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01:19:43.200 --> 01:19:45.760
know, predictive forecaster in terms of, you know,
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01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:47.780
looks maxing. But you can't tell me that
1961
01:19:47.780 --> 01:19:51.120
Mandy Moore, okay, with a one in 100,
1962
01:19:51.120 --> 01:19:53.980
thousand face card would not have aged better
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01:19:53.980 --> 01:19:56.720
on the left than she looks now on
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01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:58.700
I just don't believe it. I don't care.
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01:19:58.700 --> 01:20:00.600
Even if you didn't, even if you didn't,
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01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:02.380
when you're young and you're at that 10,
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01:20:02.380 --> 01:20:04.880
find yourself a 10 male, lock it down,
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01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:05.820
be a good wife, and you don't have
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01:20:05.820 --> 01:20:08.360
to worry about this shit. You're done, and
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01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:11.100
your husband will worship you. You're absolutely done.
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01:20:11.100 --> 01:20:13.500
Walker, get in here, man. I'm lucky. My
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01:20:13.500 --> 01:20:17.240
wife is both still smoking hot and beautiful.
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01:20:17.240 --> 01:20:21.720
So I've, you know, like, she's, maintained both.
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01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:24.060
I'm grateful to her for that. But again,
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01:20:24.060 --> 01:20:25.080
she got dealt a hell of a face
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01:20:25.080 --> 01:20:28.940
card. But, boy, I think that we're kind
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01:20:28.940 --> 01:20:30.360
of, we're at a very close point to
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01:20:30.360 --> 01:20:34.140
being post this, like, super dramatic plastic surgery
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01:20:34.140 --> 01:20:36.360
thing. Like, I get, like, some people, like,
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01:20:36.360 --> 01:20:37.460
they think their nose is a little too
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01:20:37.460 --> 01:20:39.060
big or whatever. And, like, maybe they get,
1982
01:20:39.060 --> 01:20:40.200
like, a little bit of the bone shaved
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01:20:40.200 --> 01:20:42.080
off or something. It's not super noticeable, but
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01:20:42.080 --> 01:20:43.320
maybe it makes them feel a bit better.
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01:20:43.320 --> 01:20:45.100
Okay, whatever, you know, do you want your
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01:20:45.100 --> 01:20:46.760
own own body, right? Like, fuck, people are
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01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:48.960
chopping off their dicks and, or putting the
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01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:50.900
forearms. four dicks. Like, I don't know, people
1989
01:20:50.900 --> 01:20:52.360
are doing all sorts of crazy stuff these
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days. It's not the worst shit you could
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do. Yeah, but like. It's not Elliot Page
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over here, at least. I'm, I'm so grateful,
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I'm so grateful that my wife has had
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zero work done. And like, and because, one,
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like, she doesn't need it, but I think
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if most women, I think part of it
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is like a, it's like, what kind of
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support system you have around you. And if
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you have people around you who aren't telling
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you, like, hey, you don't need to do
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that. What are you talking about? You, like,
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you look at, like, you look absolutely beautiful.
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If you don't have that around you, and
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I think especially, it's probably difficult being like,
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I don't know, a Hollywood starlit and there's
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just like, there's, you know, probably don't have
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the best support system around you in general.
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But man, like, if, for, if there happened
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to be any ladies here who are thinking
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about getting extensive work done, I would really
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strongly reconsider that because, boy, you can't, you
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can't take that back. And like, all the
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people, I mean, there are women, like, I
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know people like, I know people would like,
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started doing fillers and all that kind of
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stuff, like, very early. You know who didn't
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get work done? You got to do that
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for the rest of your life. Kate? Yeah.
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Didn't get work done. She's 51. Look at
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Cam Diaz, too. Cam Diaz's similar story, right?
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Like, she looks older, but like, that's beauty.
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But like, yeah, I mean, like a great
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way. Yeah, that's all. There's an Orwell quote
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that's by 50, by 50 years old, you
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get the face that you deserve. And the
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irony here is that, like, a lot of
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these people are just like, they're giving themselves.
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the face they deserve like actively it's not
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just them being like terrible people like that
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was orwell's quote right so you know you
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get like the i think we were talking
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about this the other week joey like victoria
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newland you know like that bitch has the
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face she deserves no we got to get
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her under the knife she needs to be
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under the knife vicky yeah other girls they
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do not yeah we're not calling for violence
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to clarify um but yeah i don't know
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like man you be very careful about having
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permanent uh unfixed like you can't you can't
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there's no undo button there's no control z
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01:22:49.360 --> 01:22:50.780
there's no control z there there. And you
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01:22:50.780 --> 01:22:52.440
start doing it, all these people that start
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01:22:52.440 --> 01:22:54.240
doing it, they keep doing it because they're
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01:22:54.240 --> 01:22:57.980
chasing this image of themselves that doesn't exist.
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And even when they get to that image
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of themselves, they think that they want, everyone
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01:23:01.400 --> 01:23:04.640
else looks and says, oh, fuck, what did
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01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.480
you do to yourself? Like, you used to
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be really beautiful, like, or, you know, for
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like guys, dude, it's like, I hope, I
2052
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hope clavicular doesn't go too far into this.
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You know what I mean? I know, I
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know. Like, because he's a young man, he's
2055
01:23:15.700 --> 01:23:18.460
a smart guy, a good autistic. I hope,
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01:23:18.460 --> 01:23:19.340
I hope he knows where to stop. And
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01:23:19.340 --> 01:23:21.880
hopefully, he's autistic enough where he can stop
2058
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just before it becomes too late. So, Clav,
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if you're listening to this, which I know
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you tune in every, you know, everyone on
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01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:29.660
the show, Clav, come on the show. That'd
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01:23:29.660 --> 01:23:32.920
be fun, man. He's a smart young man.
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01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:35.400
I did find Cameron Diaz. Apparently, some work
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01:23:35.400 --> 01:23:38.400
done in 2006, but had multiple broken noses,
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01:23:38.400 --> 01:23:39.120
so it was more of like a breathing
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01:23:39.120 --> 01:23:43.600
repair. 2006. 2006. Also, I didn't know this
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until like a little while ago. We had,
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Joey, we were at a a concert there
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01:23:46.180 --> 01:23:48.680
together, but married to, I believe, the frontman
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01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.920
from Good Charlotte. Charlotte, yeah. Yeah. Me and
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01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.120
my buddy realize that. This is a pop
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01:23:54.120 --> 01:23:56.300
culture show now. We do all the things
2073
01:23:56.300 --> 01:23:59.040
here. It's important, though, like Bitcoin, you're going
2074
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to find yourself in situations that maybe you
2075
01:24:01.020 --> 01:24:03.140
wouldn't have if you had not found Bitcoin,
2076
01:24:03.140 --> 01:24:05.100
where you can say the right thing to
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01:24:05.100 --> 01:24:08.740
your right person without fear of reprisal. Like,
2078
01:24:08.740 --> 01:24:10.520
you, you owe it to people who you
2079
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:12.140
care about to tell them these things, not
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to just go, yeah, maybe just a little
2081
01:24:14.360 --> 01:24:17.240
bit of fucking boogle fat removal or whatever.
2082
01:24:17.240 --> 01:24:19.560
Yeah, it's a time preference thing. Like, time.
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01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:22.160
The same plastic surgeons that do the bucle
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01:24:22.160 --> 01:24:25.560
fat removal do buckel fat injections. I ain't
2085
01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:27.400
not heard of this. I'm not surprised, though.
2086
01:24:27.400 --> 01:24:29.860
It's a fucking loop, man. Yeah, because you
2087
01:24:29.860 --> 01:24:32.220
take out what makes you look youthful. Yeah.
2088
01:24:32.220 --> 01:24:33.900
And then later, when you're no longer youthful,
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01:24:33.900 --> 01:24:36.000
you get the youthful stuff injected back in.
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01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.040
It's like, this is just a fucking predatory
2091
01:24:38.040 --> 01:24:40.780
plastic surgeons. Would you say that it's Fiat?
2092
01:24:40.780 --> 01:24:42.660
That's maybe a scam? I'd say it's pretty
2093
01:24:42.660 --> 01:24:44.960
fucking Fiat. Yeah. So Fiat is fucked. Fiat
2094
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.840
is fucked. So. Yeah. Yeah. Gents, just to
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01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:50.000
round out here, I did want to mention
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01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:55.200
that just dropped a tutorial on, I got
2097
01:24:55.200 --> 01:24:59.940
an Avalon Q. It's one of those space
2098
01:24:59.940 --> 01:25:02.300
heater kind of, and it's pretty bad, I
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01:25:02.300 --> 01:25:04.480
think it goes up to like 90 terra
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01:25:04.480 --> 01:25:06.500
hash a second or something like that. Like,
2101
01:25:06.500 --> 01:25:08.860
it's, I believe you're right, yeah. Yeah, it's
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about, it's like 15 times as powerful as
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01:25:11.580 --> 01:25:14.480
the little like 3S that I did, I
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01:25:14.480 --> 01:25:15.800
don't know, a year ago or something. something
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01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:19.240
like that. Anyways, kicks off some heat and
2106
01:25:19.240 --> 01:25:21.380
pretty quiet, too. So I've been dicking around
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01:25:21.380 --> 01:25:25.160
with it and did a fun tutorial. Side
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01:25:25.160 --> 01:25:27.040
note, I won't show the video here, but
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01:25:27.040 --> 01:25:30.560
I shared it into the BitCast Bag Chat.
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01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:33.740
I'm filming and I'm recording, like, in the
2111
01:25:33.740 --> 01:25:35.800
app and showing how it works and everything.
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01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:40.960
And the lovely Mrs. Sessions sends me a
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message that's just laden with expletives, like, on.
2114
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:47.600
the screen as I'm recording and I just
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01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:49.100
left it in for the editor to find
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01:25:49.100 --> 01:25:51.420
and he made a nice little edit of
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01:25:51.420 --> 01:25:54.540
it. So thanks Mrs. Sessions for always making
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01:25:54.540 --> 01:26:00.920
my tutorial recordings eventful. But yeah, we'll round
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out here. Anything, Nathan, you got something you
2120
01:26:04.460 --> 01:26:06.440
want to run there? I am put I
2121
01:26:06.440 --> 01:26:07.820
am, I should, I'm going to stay a
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01:26:07.820 --> 01:26:10.280
plate. I should have another podcast dropping tomorrow
2123
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with our dear Walker and another guest coming
2124
01:26:12.900 --> 01:26:14.340
up. Walker, do we have everything ready for
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01:26:14.340 --> 01:26:16.420
that one? Are we good to go? Yeah,
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01:26:16.420 --> 01:26:17.440
I mean, my wife told me I'm not
2127
01:26:17.440 --> 01:26:19.060
allowed to stay up until 4 a .m.
2128
01:26:19.060 --> 01:26:20.060
tonight, so I guess I've got to have
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01:26:20.060 --> 01:26:22.640
it done by 2 a .m. Yeah, I
2130
01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:24.280
know. And they go, I'm in bed, honey.
2131
01:26:24.280 --> 01:26:27.040
Don't worry. But yeah, we're good to go.
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01:26:27.040 --> 01:26:28.740
We're good to go. All right. Fantastic. So,
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01:26:28.740 --> 01:26:30.220
guys, look out for that one because Walker
2134
01:26:30.220 --> 01:26:32.180
has been doing a shit ton of work
2135
01:26:32.180 --> 01:26:34.080
behind the scenes. And we had a fantastic
2136
01:26:34.080 --> 01:26:36.760
conversation going all of his latest findings. Really
2137
01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:39.380
worth checking out. Oh, damn. All right. Well,
2138
01:26:39.380 --> 01:26:41.340
I'll be watching that, too. Also, not to
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01:26:41.340 --> 01:26:43.220
mention the other one that you just dropped
2140
01:26:43.220 --> 01:26:47.000
on the couple that did the broken country
2141
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.040
documentary about Canada. That one, guys, for anyone,
2142
01:26:50.040 --> 01:26:52.240
it's one of those documentaries for someone that's
2143
01:26:52.240 --> 01:26:53.900
still trapped in the system, regardless of you're
2144
01:26:53.900 --> 01:26:55.560
like Canada or U .S., that still thinks
2145
01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:56.720
that we can vote our way out of
2146
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:59.180
this, that it's not all that bad. This
2147
01:26:59.180 --> 01:27:01.740
one's really good as like a gentle kind
2148
01:27:01.740 --> 01:27:03.460
of orange pilling to the problem and also
2149
01:27:03.460 --> 01:27:05.420
getting them to actually realize what's going on
2150
01:27:05.420 --> 01:27:06.960
here. They did a fantastic job. It was
2151
01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:11.060
with Mike and Miro. Nice. Yeah. All right,
2152
01:27:11.060 --> 01:27:14.000
gents, perfect spot to round out. Everybody, thank
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01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:16.420
you for being here. like, give a share.
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I'm Ben. This was Walker, Nathan, and Joey.
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And this was Bitcast. You know the world
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