Jerome Cheng Returns

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Hello, and welcome to the Stringer
Podcast number fifty two. I'm speaking softly
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because it's nearly four am, and
I really don't need neighbor hate right now.
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This voice of mine has a tendency
to carry. Today is the last
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of the pre covid interviews and features
our first full on returning guests. It's
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nice to know that I haven't scared
them away yet. We're working through the
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technology to get some remote conversations going
that don't sound like we're in can You
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may have noticed we dropped a shortened
convo earlier in the week with Matt Schinetti,
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and that is all part of this
Today's conversation those with a talented producer
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with a proclivity towards sweet sneakers,
ball and dance moves and Marvel cinematic domination.
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Last time he's here, we ran
through an MCU bracket challenge that saw
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Thor Regnarock square off against Captain America's
Civil War in the final. It's a
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dispute that is still yet to be
settled. You know him on Twitter's at
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black dragon Roll. You know him
on Instagram is at black dragon Roll.
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I prefer to call him my own
personal mixmaster, rugcutter, groove tune shuffler,
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expert in the dark, Hearts of
Karaoke, boy band challenger, two
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time world champion, one time string
or revisited, Black Dragon, roll Combo
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and spicy tuner. Rolled in nine. He's not a lunch, He's a
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snack. It's Jerome Chang. That's
right. You heard it right, Jerome
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Cheng. And he's coming up right
after I tell you about something that I
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think Jerome would actually really be into. We've teamed up with the incredibly talented
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Katie Heindel and Shaun Woodley to develop
and launch a new podcast called Basketball.
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Each week, these two dedicated a
whole hour of their time to bring you
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the gossip, the drama, the
rumors, the fashion and basketball on this
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hilariously absurd new podcast, but the
NBA and basketball culture. Sean's credits include
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co authoring We the Champs and can
be regularly heard on TSN eleven fifty.
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He also has a photo of Terrence
Ross hanging above his desk. Katie,
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on the other hand, is perhaps
most notoriously known as the genius inventor of
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shorts the clothing, but you may
also recognize her from Rolling Stone Vice Die
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magazine or The Athletic wasn't enough.
She writes a weekly newsletter called Basketball Feelings.
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These two are an incredible duo with
a ton of chemistry, and it
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really shows in this week's episode of
Basketball That's Right with two hes find out
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and give it a pump on an
upcoming episode. Last week, we chatted
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about follow Up Boy and their indefinite
association to YouTube. This was all because
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of the age of their fans at
the time, the rapid growth of social
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media in the mid two thousands,
and the major step forward in technology,
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specifically video sharing. This got me
thinking, at what point in our life
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is music the most influential. We
might do our best to keep up with
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new music, but deep down,
if you're anything like me, as much
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as you appreciate the new sounds coming
out, it just can't quite compare to
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the music of our youth. My
father must have said the same thing when
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appearing to writhe in pain and the
music I was listening to, and no
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doubt his father did the same before
him. So then, at what age
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does music leave the biggest imprint on
us? I did some digging, and
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although I'm sure we could dedicate a
whole podcast series into the journey to finding
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this answer, for the sake of
time, I'm going to do my best.
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It is still everything down into a
couple quick facts. First, in
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a partnership with Spotify, the New
York Times at a study in twenty eighteen
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using Radioheads nineteen ninety three hit Creep
as one of the main test subjects.
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The study found that the song charted
the highest with those who were in early
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adolescence when the song was released,
compared to those who were ten years older
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or ten years younger. Great,
so, early adolescence, got it?
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What's that like? Twelve thirteen?
So it must be a puberty thing,
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right. The answer to this is
sort of, but not quite. One
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of the most important stages of development. Happens that the olympic system begins to
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That's the part of the brain that's
responsible for many of our basic emotions,
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including pleasure. This development really starts
ramping up at age ten. Now,
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as puberty sets in our cerebral cortex
develops. This is responsible for higher brain
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functions, think of complex planning,
decision making, and personality expression for women
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that starts as early as ten or
eleven. For boys, it's often a
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little bit later. But here lies
the key to or a question about music.
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There exists as time roughly between ten
and twelve where the pleasure center for
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a brain has already shown increased evolution. For our ability to rain this in
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and rationalize it hasn't started taking shape. It's why we were more prone to
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slamming doors and hating our parents,
world ending blowups with our friends, and
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finding true love in middle school.
So although music is highly influential through all
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of our teen years, it has
the chance to really leave its mark in
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the two years between the ages of
ten and twelve. So I was born
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in nineteen eighty four, which means
in the spring nineteen ninety four, twenty
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six years ago, I shed my
Sharon Lewis and Bram albums for good and
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was ready to begin allowing music to
touch my most basic emotions. And I'm
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shocked by how well this lines up
twenty six years ago. This week,
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I'm May tenth nineteen ninety four,
a Los Angeles rock band released their first
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studio album with Geffen Records. Although
officially the album is self titled, it's
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affectionately called the Blue Album by fans
because the simple cover art featuring the four
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band members standing rather flatly in front
of a blue wall. Recording Electric Ladies
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Studios built by Jimmy Hendrix in New
York City's Granite Village, the band spent
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two months in nineteen ninety three crafting
their sound and recording the album. Rivers
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Cuomo and Matt Sharp are said to
have imposed several rules during recordings, such
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as no reverb and only strum in
a downward motion, and while mixing,
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they insisted over and over again that
the guitars be is loud or louder than
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those found on Radioheads Creep, released
earlier that year. You see how this
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came full circle. So from that
album, here's Weezer's Only in Dreams,
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followed by the Sacks, Ben Jerome
Chang. Have a great weekend, guys,
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Jesus turn season your she is your
season, Jesus A hold on.
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So oh yeah, they're just they're
just so like what you got it?
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You got it? Like yeah,
Oh, we gotta push some mute.
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Now are we going head blows around? Head? I can go which what
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do you let's I just gotta know
that with this on, like I don't
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like yell to compensate. You can
turn it up though, if you turn
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up the OX volume, nob then
you turn up in your own ears.
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Okay, that's if that. Yeah, because it's funny Dylan and I are
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so different because I like it like
really loud in my ears. I think
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partially because I've like I spent the
first part of my life in bands and
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then the second part of my life
like editing to really loud sports things,
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and so I might be a little
bit deaf. Yeah, yeah, I
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remember um studying like doing my audio
cores and finding out immediately like, oh,
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your ears are so sensitive, Like
you go to one concert and that's
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it. You don't have personally,
like you have ruined. Like from this
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point, I'm just like what you've
I could have been good. Yeah,
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but now I like I noticed,
and I find it crazy that Dylan can
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keep it so low because for me
to hear anything in the background right,
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like and I'm always this whole time, I'll be searched for like, oh,
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I found a pop in there.
I'm like I'll have to remember that,
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or like I'll know where I am
in the conversation because I have no
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life and I'm a massive nerd.
That's what it all comes down to.
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Well, that's that's me. Like
working on the Come on Your Ed's podcast,
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I just sit there and like listen
for things, and like all my
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notes are just like someone breathes heavily. Yeah, so what do you record?
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What do you recorder for that zoom
recorder? Yeah? The only so
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the one thing I do like about
recording straight into addition or any any kind
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of like editing software is he can
just hit a key when hockey and then
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just add to marker. Oh right, like huge mark marker. And like
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you'll see saying there's a better life
than typing on my Apple. You don't
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have you don't have to time code
it. Well no, yeah, that's
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yeah, Like because you sit there, you're like, oh, when I
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started typing it, it was thirteen
oh seven twenty four, but now it's
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thirteen oh eight twelve, Like here
here this is oh my. I mean
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like some of it was just like
hearing what they were talking about and everything,
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but like when he was just like
clear throat, burp, burp,
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burp gas, like I just you
know, like you know, it's not
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like it's that whole like I forgot, which I think it was John Laney
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who talked about it, but just
the idea of like suddenly like you just
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like burp just come out and awhere
like yours And that's I was hearing it
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live like into my headphones, into
your ears, yeah, into I think
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I appreciate the fact that you followed
the producer's code and you didn't say who
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burped. No, no, no, no, no, you don't no,
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you don't even say it. It's
there on the no right, and
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that's all you need to know.
No, no, no, it's just
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burp. Yeah, it's just burp
by night, I know. And you
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know what you did, and you
also know the time code, yes,
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right, so you can just find
it again. It doesn't matter who did
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it. Yeah, it's the fact
that it's there. Yeah. Jerome Chang
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returned to the podcast, No Big, you're the first returning guest. I
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think, so wondering about that,
like you're on Dylan's gonna doubt me on
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this, You're one point five and
I'll tell you the one point five Okay,
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because front of the show, Mike
Fierman, brother of Great Mike,
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was here as like a crossover thing
with Mike on much and then Mike came
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back separately, right, but he
was it wasn't half the show was his
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and half was yours. So then
exactly, and Greg was on it,
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right and Shane was on it too, and it was the four of us.
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It was the first time I got
to sit down one on one with
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Mike. So that's why it's like
one point five. People heard his voice
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twice, but he wasn't like twice
straight up all about him, which I'm
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glad you are the best person to
do that with. And so I'm trying
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to like intro, you know,
usually it's like Jerome Chang on the podcast,
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and now because it's your second time
back, I'm like, oh,
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and Jerome Chang is joining us.
Yes, it's because we've all grown up.
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One podcast, yeah, right,
a little bit more. If I
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come around on the next one,
we should just like started as if I'd
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never left, Like, oh my
god, we should. We will just
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listen the last day, like thirty
seconds of the last podcast. Yeah,
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and just and you can start with
like, we don't have to end now,
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do we. I'm like, no, no, no, we can
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keep going. Yeah, and we'll
just pick up the conversation. But I
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don't even know, like, say, for argument's sake, we're talking about
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Star Wars right right, but we
don't apply it again for like six months,
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right, Like, let's try to
figure out what would this conversation sound
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me if we talk for six months
straight and then and then just come back
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as just now to the three hundred
and forty second second of the film,
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like this frame here and then this
really bothered me, like really bother And
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then I wondered to myself, is
Luke dead? Yeah? I think I'll
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put it in the intro there does
contain spoilers. I'm glad Sean isn't in
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the room because he hasn't seen it. He hasn't seen it. Okay,
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we're all going as a group tonight
to see it. Oh. Nice,
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you've seen it. I have seen
it. Dylan seen it. We saw
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it together, perfect, okay,
and so we're good to talk about it,
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which we will. Yeah, amongst
everything that it's happ's been out for
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so long, you have no excuse. So I wrote for the very first
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time I wrote, I wrote little
notes nice because we thought it'd be fun.
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This can kind of be the the
unplanned a facto year and review show,
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because it has been almost a year
since you've been on the podcast that
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long, I think it was it
was March. Yeah, so we were
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almost at a year since we've been
on the podcast, and so we well,
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because Endgame wasn't out, and it
was like it was the wild card
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in our draft, in our draft, which we still brought into. We
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brought it in, but like I
remember, I personally would not let it
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go past the first round for a
movie that doesn't exist yet. So I
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thought of bringing out that draft and
being like, okay, how would we
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redo this with end Game? Would
definitely go for it, would be right.
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Yeah, I don't want to know
where in the bracket it lied,
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specifically because I might lose my opin. You don't want it to face up
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against Ragnarok. I think it's uh
wait, wait, well let's talk about
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Endgame. Okay, let's start with
Endgame because chronologically, in my list of
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stuff that happened last year, Endgame
is first. Okay, Fanos dies in
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the opening minutes, and then you
kind of go on this really for a
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bit for me, it was like, oh, okay, what's the point?
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Then right, like like what chase
are we now going on? And
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then how are they able to sustain
this for two hours and forty five minutes.
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It's history's most expensive clip show.
It is. Yes, ye,
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that being said, I loved it. I love every minute. I think
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I saw three, four or five
times in theaters, Like I just kept
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seeing it in theaters, and I
keep watching it on planes. Oh yes,
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I let it run on planes.
I sleep through it. I wake
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up and you're fine with it.
Cap gets his gets me on the air.
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I'm like yeah, like and then
you get yeah, um yeah.
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I really like it. I would
say what I first saw it, I
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had questions about how well it would
live like Hollywood hold up, just because
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it's so long and the parts in
between where they go back and revisit previous
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scenes from from the MCUYE. I
wondered, it's very nice in the moment
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scene for the first time going back, but do I always want to go
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back and relive those moments over and
over, like, especially because of how
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bombastic the final what hour of Battle
is? I just kind of get there
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as soon as I can. And
that's what I found myself doing, like
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when I first got Disney plus,
I just started from when they didn't got
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a Battle. I just watched the
Roe and there really yeah, I think
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it was just because it was the
holidays. I was like, I will
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watch this movie in form. But
then even then, I'm pretty sure I
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walked out, like walked out of
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to New York, got through New
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York. Once they went to Asgard. I was like, okay, I
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know, ye go it's a bit
of a lower point. Yeah, it's
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an emotional beat. It's emotional.
It's an emotional beat. Yeah fo yeah,
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and yeah, like you appreciate it
from a story standpoint, and it's
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terrible for my brand to say I
walked out during the Thord part. How
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much do you like? It's amazing. It's still number one, I think,
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But well, even like Far from
Home came out, so that's another
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one. We have Far from Home
as well. Again in April, I
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don't even have that on the list, so we can go that next.
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No, it holds up very well. Um, I still think it does
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dip in the middle, just because
I think that's a very hard part to
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like really relive over and over.
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back to get the tests ract from, like what's Tony's dad's name, Howard
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Howard Howard Stars. I thought that
got me a little, Like it kind
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of slows down there too, because
again it's an emotional beat for Tony for
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sure, right because he gets to
kind of face his father and and and
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and at that moment everyone gets closure. Yeah yeah, yeah, and he
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has healing on his whole past battle
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over like so that that yeah,
the moment the Hammer like, I get
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emotional when he like the Hammer part, I get excited, and the Avengers
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Assembled part, I get emotional each
time. Like it's just that surprisingly still
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gets me. Everyone walks with the
polls and you're just like, yeah,
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let's fucking go. Yeah, this
is how we win. Yeah, like
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look at all of us. Yeah, and it's like this warm feeling.
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I don't know, it hits a
core inside all of us. Like I
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think of great sports movies where you
think of Rudy or you think of what
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the left side strong side. Denzel
Washington, Run of the Titans right,
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any moment where the underdog gets his
moment right, because they're at they're at
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the brink. It's like they're up
against an immovable force and no matter what
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they do, they just can't beat
Thanos again. And for a moment you're
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like, I'm fighting the good fight, but it's futile, right, And
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then you realize you actually have the
majority of support, And I think that's
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all. There's a piece inside all
of us where we feel like we're fighting
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the good fight alone and we just
want our friends and family and and people
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to recognize, yeah, we're trying
to do the right thing. And then
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they all show up at her back
and we're like, yeah, see,
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I got my team too. I
think the true achievement of that scene is
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it's obvious that that's supposed to happen, and it still gets you because like,
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what else is gonna happen? Gonna
beat them alone? And like I
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remember being in the theater at the
time where I'm like, oh, man,
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cat's gonna get it. That's it
right, like because they it's the
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it's the John Snowe which it works
out for John snows right against in the
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Battle of the bastards. But you're
just sitting there like, ah, that's
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it, this is it. And
then and then you hear and you're like
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oh my god. Yeah, and
then you like thinking back about it on
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the ride homes like obviously, what
else, what else is going to happen?
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What are they doing with it?
Like, but the fact that it
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still gets to be like that is
the true achievement of that film. Who
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following that movie, which character or
characters did you like more than you had
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maybe perhaps throughout the light that came
around like even more on Yeah, hmm,
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that's a good question. I mean
this is more over the course of
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Infinity War and yeah, end game. That's doctor Strange, Yeah, because
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I wasn't a big fan of the
first film, but he's just a bad
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we could swear on this. Yeah, motherfucker in this one. Did you
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ever play Marvel Ultimate Alliance? Yes? Yeah, so in the final battle
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in the battle scene of that one, there's like one moment where he like
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lifts up a whole bunch of people
like with and then like slams them all
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down, and like that's mar What
do we call us with what with magic?
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Well? What do we call it? For him? It's magic.
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And then thora had that thing in
the first one, like what you call
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magic, We call us our science
film, right right, right right,
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but like magic, sure, sorcery, sorcery, sorcery. Yes, thank
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you. Yeah. When he's like, I'm like, like I just wanted
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to yell like it so good.
Um, But I think and that's generally
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what Marvel does extremely well, and
I think you appreciate this. It's also
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what I enjoy about, say Civil
War. Oh, but it just have
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my attention. Yeah, it just
gives like this rewards anywhe who actually listened
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to the last one. But I
think anyone listened to like is listening to
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this one right now is like,
must have listened last one to come back.
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No, um, we only have
returned listeners. You never get any
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new ones. But just Marvel is
very good at giving you just like those
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mark moments, like if you're like
a wrestling fans, like the Mark Out
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moments, right, And so that
final battle and endgame is just one after
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or not, just NonStop overload of
it and it's fantastic and you have like
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the moment where you have like the
female side really take their stand. Yeah,
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and then you can't that one's a
little forced. I don't, but
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I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm
cool with it. Like that's the thing.
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It's weird. Like again, it's
like one of those like you see
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exactly what's going on, but like
this is nice, this is good.
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I'm with it. I think,
Yeah, for me, I can see
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it being forced retrospectively, okay,
but in the moment because of where we're
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at, just the atmosphere of Hollywood, like we're not that far away from
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it, we're not even year removed, but just because of where we're at
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with trying to bring more female leads
to the forefront, I was like,
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yep, yep. And then knowing
that they film that like a year and
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a half ago or whatever, I'm
just like yep. I'm like, go
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get it, like go, go
show off how fucking awesome you are,
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Like just go. I like,
well, like, I know people have
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a problem with her being so overpowered
by I liked Captain Marvel coming in.
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Like again, that was another one, and that was like obviously she's going
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to come right And when she came, You're like, oh my god,
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she's here. Yeah, yeah,
she showed up. Where have you been?
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Yea, it shows how powerful Thanos
is when she bat because we know
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how powerful Captain Marvel is from the
standalone movie, and I think it just
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goes to prove why it was so
tough to beat Thanos. Yeah, because
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they just they kind of create the
power hierarchy for you, right, and
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he was at the very top.
Well that's why I was like, well,
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that's the thing, because it's also
Thannis for a few years ago.
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It's a little younger, right,
a little more like it's like prime Thanos,
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a little more lowerish. Yeah,
he was. I he u as
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that thinking about like who came around? Like Fanos was really good in the
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first one, but he just seemed
like in this one he was just like
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again, yeah, bad motherfucker.
It was like if the Lakers went back
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and brought back like Miami, like
Miami Lebron showed up for like the playoffs,
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and it was like, oh hey
now yeah, yeah, everything that
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like the Warriors happened during that time. The Warriors happened. Who Warriors,
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Like that's the Avengers, right,
Like I will destroy them now with my
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Miami power. It'll be like two
thy ten Lebron James in this case is
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still Mario Chalmers I think I uh, for me, it's Hulk Okay,
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I came around more on Hold,
I'm not happy Professor Hulk really didn't.
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Oh no, I just I love
how angry he is. I it got
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me like when when they first appear
in New York okay yeah, and he
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sees old Hulk yeah, and he's
like that's a very yeah, and he's
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like yeah, and he punches the
car and he kind of like half ass
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bashes it. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I can get into this
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character. The whole comedy is really
good there because it's so lackluster in his
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hip, but because he's the Hulk, it's still like significant. It is
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exactly or even in the diner scene
when he gets recognized and the bit with
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Paul Rudd is like but I'm at
man like sorry, no, yeah,
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that I just I liked being able
to have the Hulk with personality, so
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I enjoyed. I liked. That's
why I like Professor Hulk right, just
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as easy as that. But my
my favorite kind of Hulk personality is hulking
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ok very good. Yeah, which
is hard to it's hard to give up
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Hulk and throw Ragna, But I'm
okay with where he got yeah, yeah,
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okay, because we're gonna end up
doing a hula. Yes, like
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it's been because it's been that long, fat thort, you gotta love.
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I'm curious where they're going with it. Well, he's gonna being guardians and
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and also and he also yeah,
so well you know who's a new thor
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right, Yes, yeah, okay. I'm interested to see where which direction
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his body's going. I almost hope
it just keeps the downward trajectory like the
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rest of America. Like I hope
he can just be like a regular dude
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and be like, no, I'm
just gonna I know I don't would be
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working out, but I'm just gonna
keep drinking. I don't want him to
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gain like more away, okay,
but I want him to like it's like
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I want him like, oh,
he's coming around. I'm like, like,
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it's it's a solid but there's no
ads and like in certain sweaters,
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you're like you can't necessarily tell.
He just looks like he bolt up.
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I'm excited. It's like the skinny
Elvius fat Ale of Us thing and he
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decided what you're a fan of.
Yeah, I'm excited for there being a
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group that just like no, I'm
fat Thor like that, we just kind
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of give up on our ideals and
we're like, yeah, I'm gonna be
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all for fat Thor, Like that's
my idol, He's my favorite superhero.
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So when like when he dies in
the next one and passes on to Jain,
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it's on a toilet and so concludes. Can we wrap up endgames?
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Yeah, we can, nice touching
homage at the end, I think having
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the groups there, Yeah, you
know, as as Tony. Although the
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best homage is the beginning of Far
From Home. That's awesome, and we
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won't we won't talk a lot about
it. But like I was going to
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get I was going to link right
in the Far from Home twas. How
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how fun was that to just have
the cheesy a V club style high school
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video. It's it's so perfect because
you can get that wrong right. It's
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you can get that wrong so easily, and like the work in a profession
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where we'll be told things like we
want you to make it look cheesy,
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but you you make it like you're
not cheesy, like you're trying. It's
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so forced. Yeah, they did
the same thing in the first one too,
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when they had those small snippets of
them showing like the morning news,
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Yeah, the awkwardness, everything,
the effects where it's not like like this
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is someone at this level, like
this is what they would do, and
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you just really appreciate it. Yeah, and it's yeah, I was down
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with it, and think it helps
separate itself so strongly from what we had
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just experienced because it's the month later, yes, that that we go from
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endgame and seeing that in all its
power and its glory, it does a
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better job explaining the actual events and
how people have reacted to it more than
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endgame itself, right, So it
sums it up, but it creatively and
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stylistically puts you in a new space
that you can be with high schoolers again
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and you're totally cool with it.
They handle the blip in a fun way.
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Everyone wondered. Everyone wondered how you're
going to handle the blip, And
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the funniest way to do it is
the little brother like now becoming like a
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strapping young man and you're like,
fucking exactly how you'd feel. You're like,
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I'm you're am I really dealing with
this right now. But they also
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all have to be in the same
rate. Right. There was the passing
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of the glasses and the ability to
blow up or save the earth. Yeah,
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Tony onto Peter, which is fun. The ability to take it out
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of country, that was fun.
And that conflict that we saw I think
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a lot in the Sam Raimi films
and you see through it the comics.
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I'm just not it's very Spider Man. Yeah, it's very Spider Man to
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be like I don't want this.
Yeah, it's very true. I just
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I need to be like a teenager
right now. Yeah, And it's it's
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it's one of those things that has
been a good art because he is very
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eager in Civil War, joins Yea. By the time he gets to Homecoming,
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he thinks he's like ready for this, finds out he's he's in over
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his head, gets essentially snapped out
of existence. Is like it's definitely facing
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some start of PTSD. So he
doesn't want that life and then like reassumes
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it in this one, and it's
just like it's a nice path that makes
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logical sense for that character. The
bit when he's at aunt May's fundraiser at
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the beginning I thought was really funny
and they're like kind of bickering in the
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back and then he has to go
out and perform. I thought that's fun
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because I think in a weird way, it felt like every dinner party my
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parents would have put it on here
right in a weird way that that behind
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the surface might have a couple of
bombs and then you just get a swat
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on the ass and like get out
there and you wear that you never wear
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before, let alone in your own
home. You're like, why am I
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dressed in like suit shorts, Like
I don't get it. Put on a
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00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.480
piano like in prompt piano or something. Everyone, Yeah, let's go.
407
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.440
Yeah, we put on little plays
in the in the living room and it's
408
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.599
not like I led them and we
were told to do it. So it
409
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.160
kind of felt like that, and
it gave it this nostalgic like it reminded
410
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.960
me of being young that like those
films, and like the two Spider Man
411
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:32.200
films in particular, do a very
good job of actually feeling like what it
412
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.359
was like when you were a teenager. There MJ's awkwardness, yes, I
413
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.839
think is amazing, Like when first
confronted when she first confronted him with the
414
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.559
Spider Man stuff and then totally played
it off that the only reason why I
415
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:45.960
was paying attention to you was because
I thought you were a Spider Man.
416
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.720
And then it comes out, even
just the moment where she she has that
417
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.079
overconfidence of like I knew it,
and then when and then when he like
418
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:56.880
really mits it and like it gets
real, she like she's in waiver having
419
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.720
that's such a team like it's the
overconfid finding out immediately you're in over your
420
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.519
head. Yeah you're like, oh
no, I wasn't prepared for that.
421
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.359
Yes, exactly right. I wasn't
prepared for you to like me back.
422
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.119
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know
what to do now. Yeah, I
423
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.079
just got everything I ever wanted,
and I have no idea what to do
424
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:18.319
with it. Where do I go? Jake Jillenhall as Mysterio. The Mysterio
425
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.359
scene like where he like messes Peter
up and uses all the illusions is so
426
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.039
like I was a big fan of
the animated series, and that hit it
427
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.920
so perfectly, like one of those
things that you like, we're so spoiled
428
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.799
now that like the technology is allowable
there a bit and it's just it's so
429
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.079
when I was watching at the time, even like during the rainy time,
430
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:44.480
like you can never imagine someone pulling
something like this off and it's just orchestrated
431
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.079
so beautifully. It looks so nope, perfect, the way it goes back
432
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:48.559
and forth. It's a trip for
you because you don't know what's real at
433
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.640
any given point, but it's just
it's done so well. It had for
434
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.000
me this hint. This is a
really really weird reference, so just bear
435
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.720
with me, Harry. Oh,
I had one earlier that I didn't even
436
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.240
draw of. You can um when
we were talking we're talking about like you're
437
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.880
allowed. No, no, it's
we're talking about teams coming together. Yeah.
438
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:15.440
Mine was the Bella's singing Molly Cyrus
as part to the USA, because
439
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.240
they were at their low point and
they come around. Because that's really where
440
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.319
like you know, Ana Kendrick's character
comes around with the team and like you
441
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.279
know, they're about to form and
really become their best selves. Solid thing.
442
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.759
Dylan likes it too for me,
weird reference, but that scene with
443
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:37.559
Mysterio kind of had hints of Dumble
Pink Elephant, right yeah, or Fantasia
444
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:42.920
yep, like it just it you
said trippy, like it was so trippy
445
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.960
where Fantius said, both of the
great examples because they're trippy and scary to
446
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.200
a child, yes, completely,
and it just had it had me not
447
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.400
knowing. I'm trying to distinguish what's
reality and what's disoriented, and I'm trying
448
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.079
to get my bearings and where is
he and what is he actually? And
449
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.720
then a train hit like the train
hit is so it's just so fucked up
450
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.119
what I'm like, imagine I couldn't
imagine writing that scene. Yeah, because
451
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.720
it feels like there was literally no
bad idea. Yeah, and what do
452
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.839
you want next? Yeah, it's
I think the whole like when you can't
453
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.599
imagine doing it better, like that's
where you love it like the most,
454
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.759
like just damn, like I never
thought of that. Yeah yeah, you're
455
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.359
like, oh and you finish it
that way? Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
456
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.319
But yeah, the overall feeling of
it, it's great. I kind of
457
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.279
like being fooled for a minute that
mysterio might be good, Like I don't
458
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:33.880
know what I was thinking. Yeah, I have no idea what I was
459
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:53.720
thinking. And Jake Gelehouse so charming
he is? Are you in the Landey
460
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.720
fan? John Laney fan? Massive? You watch that kids? Yeah?
461
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.720
I did exactly didn't, mister music. I just watch it like last week,
462
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:06.480
which is yeah, mister music comes
in and then he can't make anything
463
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.200
make sounds like he desides, you
know what, this one is like fresh
464
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.440
enough. Just watch you watch it. I don't want to ruin this for
465
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.240
you, Like, just go watch
it. John Mullaney Dylan knows really well.
466
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.160
I'm going with Sweets this weekend.
I'm dating this podcast now, but
467
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.400
I'm going this weekend with him.
I have fun. Thank you, it's
468
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.839
great. It's a great show.
I saw him during JFL. This is
469
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.559
the actual so had two extra tickets
and they're like, I can't go.
470
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:32.079
Do you want these? Oh my
god? Yes, I know. I
471
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.000
haven't seen it yet. He so, yeah, because it's not like the
472
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.720
new show's not out. He's been
working it. He worked it through JFL.
473
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.960
It was fantastic because everything you wanted
of John mullaney. He he did
474
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.359
JFL with Pete Davison, Yeah,
which was really really neat because Pete Davidson
475
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.640
has this whole contrast, Yeah contrast. You have this aloof character yea that
476
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.200
just stumbles into everything, Like he
pulls out at one point que cards and
477
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.640
I don't like that. You feel
like he's not prepared. And then you
478
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.720
have John who comes out in like
a skinny tie in a suit and he
479
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.519
struts around the stage and as John
Mullaney and it's just perfectly choreographed. He
480
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.640
has every note to the like beat. Yeah. And then they came out
481
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.359
at the end and did a Q
and A for like twenty minutes or so,
482
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.319
and someone asked, how are you
guys even friends? You guys are
483
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.079
so different, and they said,
we're not different. They're not. No,
484
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:28.319
they're not They're like, we just
put on a show and beat kind
485
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.039
of jumps in. He says,
yeah, you think this is how I
486
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.720
actually. I mean, like,
if you're a fan of Milaney, like
487
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:36.160
if you hear his early like it's
all about him getting black out, drunk,
488
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.680
high, like high out of his
mind. Yeah, him and Davidson
489
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.119
partied hard together exactly. So.
Yeah, So the two of them came
490
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.200
out at the end and it was
neat just for them to address it and
491
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.319
be like, oh, no,
we're we're just people. This is an
492
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.480
act, you know that, right, Like we have performed this many,
493
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:59.000
many, many times. But because
the nature of a one hour conversation with
494
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:04.440
someone, we're you do feel it's
reciprocated. They talk I laugh right right,
495
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.039
and it feels like you're caught in
this dance. Yeah, you feel
496
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.920
like you know the real of them. Yeah, but they said the exact
497
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.119
same thing over and over and over, down to the word to kind of
498
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:15.719
adjust it. So have a great
time. It's a shame we're not doing
499
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.920
this next week, but we'll just
catch up on text message conversations. Yeah.
500
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:27.519
John Melaney is unbelievable. Is casting
into the Spider Verse. That made
501
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.639
me so damn happy. Maybe so
happy because it just is an extra win
502
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:37.000
when I watched that movie. Right, So we we really only crossed one
503
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.119
thing off my list because I forgot
to put Far from Home on it.
504
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.440
Then we hit May, so March
was huge. We had endgame. April
505
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.400
was huge because we had Far from
Home, and then May. Shit gets
506
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:55.239
serious because the Raptors decided they wanted
to be not the best team in our
507
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.719
conference and not the best team or
no. In the division and not seem
508
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.360
the friends, but they decided,
hey, it's about time we're the best
509
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.599
team in the league. Yeah.
It's really hard to go blow by blow
510
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.320
game by game, right, I
want to bring up I'm gonna say four
511
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.679
points if that's cool. One from
each series and you can kind of play
512
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.920
off me and let me know where
you're at game. So for context,
513
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.159
like during basically the entirety of it, minus I'm sure it's gonna come on
514
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.159
there. But like I did go
for the Chicago Counted Things show during that
515
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.119
period too. Oh crap, the
one I was supposed to go to,
516
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.079
right and I didn't show up for
the way we worked it out, We
517
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.440
get it. It's on the list, but I was that was May right,
518
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.599
Yes, So it was specifically the
beginning of the Eastern Conference Finals where
519
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.000
Milwaukee blew us out twice or like
beat us twice and it looked like we
520
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.760
were dying and famously count the Dings
doesn't love the Raptors America period. Yeah
521
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:50.239
yeah, Um, that's not that's
not even in like a like angry way,
522
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.360
like you know, I'm more of
a factual Yeah. Yeah, it's
523
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.440
just they they don't care. Like
the day after they were like, yeah,
524
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.599
there's not even any hype about this. Yeah, yeah, exact,
525
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.280
damn you. I count on you. Yeah. My main thing throughout the
526
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.239
entirety of it, outside of that
was to film and produce or like help
527
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.000
edit in tandem with Tony One of
our producers and the raptors. We did
528
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.920
all the Jurassic Park videos. It's
Tony btw, Twitter Is that right?
529
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.920
That's right, such a such a
catchy name, which is so perfect for
530
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.079
her personality. Like if you were
just like, oh, who's that,
531
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.800
she would probably it's Tony that It's
Tony by the way. Yeah, yeah,
532
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:24.440
it's so perfect. So you guys
were working in Jurassic Park, yes,
533
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:30.079
which famously was I just like saying
famously was Toronto's best party. Yeah,
534
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.360
I think night after night after night. Drake would show up. Sometimes,
535
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.920
Yes, the Arkells would show up. Sometimes Toronto of C showed up.
536
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:42.800
Other times they did a really good
Joe showed up at one point,
537
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.239
really Cardinal Fish showed up. I
must have missed those one. Yeah,
538
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.760
they had like quick appearances. Yes, yeah, but a great way to
539
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.079
engage because that spot outside the stadium
has gotten so much attention dating back to
540
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.599
him and I think twenty thirteen and
The Leaf's first run and when they first
541
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.880
started using the space that now that
there's there's performances ahead of time, there
542
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.159
is a host, mutual friend Emily
a guard will be out there hosting and
543
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:14.400
Mariah did it on other nights too, because she was like, she's the
544
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.239
captain of the North Side crew,
right and cat and would show up that
545
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.599
host of the nine oh five games
as wild Mariah. Yeah, so you
546
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:28.880
have a multitude of personalities, you
have a stage set up. We cannot
547
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.599
forget a kill. No one who
has ever met Akiel? Have you ever
548
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.599
forgotten a Kiel? So you spend
this time engaging directly, yes, with
549
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:43.199
the fan base in warm weather,
cold weather, daytime, nighttime, rain,
550
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:49.239
rain, China, all the fun
times. Game one, Yeah,
551
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.000
and it starts off the way it's
always started off, it seems. And
552
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:59.599
they lose to Orlando. Yeah,
not shuck? Are you shuck? I
553
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.559
was shuck. I was like,
you gotta be kidding me. I was,
554
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.119
you gotta be kidding me? Yeah, okay, right, And I
555
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:08.519
was like, this is not the
game I wanted to show up for him,
556
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:13.239
right. I Like that was a
mixed feeling at the time, because
557
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.039
I think it was more for me
that this is our opportunity to really capture
558
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:21.679
the Raptor audience because Leaps are at
in the playoffs at the same time,
559
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.320
so what you're looking at is not
necessarily a sea of red. You're seeing
560
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.880
a sea of red and blue.
And it's one of those times where like
561
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.480
based on personnel on paper and like
we have a legitimate shot of this safterning
562
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.679
and or like just making a deep
run, and then you get the first
563
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:37.559
one, you're like, Okay,
the team's good enough that they're going to
564
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:42.320
bounce back from it. Like you're
not really worried. There's like a small
565
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.639
bit of like is this really occurs, but it's just more deflating in the
566
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.159
way of like, this was our
opportunity to make a statement, and we
567
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.960
did it. But then we did
for four s three games. I was
568
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:58.960
right. I was worried because if
you want to go far, like very
569
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.480
few times do you make a run. Was it the Calves a few years
570
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:08.320
back that went like seven seven seven
or seven seven six leading up very often
571
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.920
if you want to make it go
deep, have a chance in that fourth
572
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.119
round. You have to dispel the
first two rounds quickly in efficient light.
573
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.320
That's a good point. And so
as soon as they lost in Game one
574
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.800
at home to the Orlando fucking Magic
who I have friends very dear to me
575
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.760
that listen to this podcast and work
for the team, I love you.
576
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.280
But as soon as we lose to
Game one, I was like, this
577
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.920
is going seven, Like, this
is just what's going to happen, and
578
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.199
that's very We're going to be out
of gas by the time we hit Milwaukee,
579
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:38.519
because in my head I thought we
were going to go even if you
580
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:43.239
watched like the Open Gym episode on
it, the conversation that they show in
581
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.199
between games one and two is everyone
kind of saying like, you guys should
582
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:50.440
not have underestimated Orlando, Right,
this is going to be a serious This
583
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.079
is going to be serious. And
then smack and then they fucked them up
584
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:57.559
and then we're onto Philly. Yeah, which I said, I I have
585
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.960
one game from each one moment true, is it the shot? Okay,
586
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.000
yeah, but we have to hit
the before we get to the shot.
587
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.760
A lot of hype around Philly.
Yeah. Last year tons from the deservedly
588
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.159
of course. Yeah. I thought
it was kind of their best chance that
589
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.960
had been in quite sometimes our hardest
competition. And I think it's even maybe
590
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.760
they had a better chance last year
perhaps than they even do this year.
591
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:25.559
They had Jimmy Butler, Jimmy Butler, notorious rapture killer, He's the Chris
592
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:31.000
Pratt. Yes, yes, yes, so going in. All I have
593
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:37.679
is whether it's Bill Simmons or it's
Harper or whoever in in my ears on
594
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.920
my podcast, being like that's set
and the road for the Raps. You
595
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.320
know, this is Phillies years even
they're gonna make a run against Jannis in
596
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:51.159
the conference finals. And it was
it was, it was. It was
597
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.559
basic seven rounds, like it was
blow by blow by blow by blow.
598
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.559
And you have like the the the
airplane kind of airplane game you know some
599
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.599
time and Drake getting into it and
making sure that a Raptor fans have something
600
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.880
to rally behind. Two from like
the meme perspective, and I think,
601
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.360
you know if anyone has owned the
meme game. Well we go back to
602
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:15.280
like the lint roller and everything.
Drake just kills. He knows the platform,
603
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.480
and he knows that he can drop
something and have the massage on Nick
604
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.320
Nurse, the shoulder massage, like
he knows that he can have a positive
605
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.239
effect on people. And then we
get to the shot and it's hard to
606
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.440
talk about anything in that series.
You get, Yeah, as great as
607
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.440
it was, and it's crazy because
they were multiple like shots and moments in
608
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.719
that series that kept us alive.
Also from Kauai, but like, obviously
609
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.400
you can only talk about the one. It came like ten days after the
610
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.119
one in Portland, right, Yeah, yeah, it was like it was
611
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.679
this. It was the playoffs where
you're like, you just you thought you
612
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.880
just saw the greatest Playoffs right moment
of all time? So you're in the
613
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.920
square. Yeah okay. So I
didn't even see it when it happened,
614
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.360
of course, because I was facing
the crowd. I have to capture the
615
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.840
crowd reaction, which must be nuts. Well that's the thing. So I
616
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.639
thought we didn't make it because it
took so long, because it was it
617
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:15.159
was like a h and then suddenly
like tens of thousand people are stormy.
618
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:16.880
I'm like, why are the story? What's going on? And I realized
619
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.920
it happened. I didn't like,
not until I went came back into the
620
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.199
building and I watched on my phone
and I was like, oh my god,
621
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:27.440
this is the most ridiculous thing I've
ever seen. I was on a
622
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.079
flight to La okay, yeah,
and I was going there for work.
623
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.039
I was going to be there for
a bit a week, and we were
624
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.159
trying There's me and a guy in
a seat ahead of me, where it's
625
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.639
like, you know, you're not
supposed to turn on your phones, but
626
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:44.840
we're at like eighteen thousand feet and
we both know we're gonna start getting reception
627
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.719
pretty soon, right, and so
you're like, oh, like about to
628
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.239
land. Yeah, so he had
bought internet throughout, like he hadn't bought
629
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.760
one of the packages, but he
was getting like blips of the game like
630
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.880
we'd see three seconds at a time. There's no way like the stream match
631
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.719
he's holding up. No, it's
not at all, And but it would
632
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.159
give us the update to scoreboard right
roughly wherever we are, which is like
633
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:10.719
that which is murder if if the
score could like tell the worst part of
634
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:20.440
the game whatsoever. And we were
it was ninety just it was ninety seconds
635
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.199
after the shot that we hit full
normal Wi Fi because we were just like
636
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:30.480
we were in the thick of all
the Twitter reaction, everyone losing their fucking
637
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.679
mind, and but we're waiting for
someone to post a highlight. Hadn't seeing
638
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.000
it. He's like, they want
they went. So we knew they won,
639
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.440
but like how, but we didn't
know how. But we know everyone
640
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:45.440
that it might be just like jumper, like swish boom, not like and
641
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.840
then moments so we saw it and
then I'm like he was watching it.
642
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.840
I was watching it. Then I
was hanging over the seat like showing him
643
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:54.960
on my phone because my video was
better, and we're losing our minds and
644
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.840
people are asking us about it,
and then they announced it over the intercom.
645
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.599
That's, you know, with a
buzzer beating three. The Raptors move
646
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.760
on past Philly. I cracked my
phone screen. I've never cracked my phone
647
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:15.599
screen Kawhi cede because I remember watching
it and being like holy like holy shit,
648
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:20.760
and then like losing grip on my
phone, it dropping, and I
649
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.400
remember when it happened. I looked
at my screen and thought like I can't
650
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.920
tell people that this is how it
happened. No, no, yeah,
651
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.519
And I didn't for the longest time
until I got this new phone just like
652
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.199
two weeks ago, and now you
and I thought explained to people, like,
653
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.119
so, what had happened. I
saw the Kawai shot and the greatest
654
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.800
moment in my basketball life happened,
and then I broke my phone and then
655
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.519
I dropped my phone because it was
the greatest moment your basketball life. Yeah,
656
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.199
clear up until like two months later
in or like a month later,
657
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.360
a month later and they're in the
finals. Of course, Milwaukee. There
658
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.079
was a little bit of an emotional
lull I think coming out of Game seven
659
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:58.079
and how hard fought that Philly series
was, and you really saw it in
660
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.440
I think in the well the interest
of the first two games is the first
661
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.719
one was winnable. First one was
very winnable. Second one wasn't. No,
662
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.679
right, but the first one.
But you're down to nothing, and
663
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.360
all you can think is that you're
down to nothing. You don't remember that
664
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.440
the first one is winnable. Yeah. And also you're so on the high
665
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.880
and you're so believing in this team
that you're not willing to accept like the
666
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.519
very easy fact that like, oh
we lost the two away games. That's
667
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.840
very normal in a series. It
is you prefer to split the difference.
668
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.559
But doing that it's not a big
deal. But in your mind and being
669
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.840
a raptor fan and having all the
things that have built up over your history
670
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.280
of loving the team, you think
this is over. Yeah, especially the
671
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:42.519
way they smacked us in this second
one, and you're like, this is
672
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.000
yep, this makes sense, but
hey, you know what, we went
673
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.800
to the conference finals. I was
on the Booze Cruise with Canada dings during
674
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:53.039
the second game. So Kevin Pelton
is refreshing his phone and showing me and
675
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:58.320
I was like, cool, I'm
going to go to yeah in Chicago or
676
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.599
in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Uh. Like Tom
677
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:05.719
Tom Show is just like I don't
want to deal with this, right,
678
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.199
Like I shouldn't. I should say
he shrugged because no one can see me
679
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:13.239
through Yeah. Yeah. He was
just like yeah, everyone knows the breathe
680
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.440
into the mic. Everyone's like yeah, and like and the whole show,
681
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:21.960
Like the DJ at the show was
wearing a Milwaukee Bucks starter jacket and I'm
682
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.440
I'm helping film at the thing.
But then there's a point where Jade and
683
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.760
Rob leave. I'm just like putting
all these names out, like as if
684
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.719
people know specifically what they do.
Okay, good um, and then so
685
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:36.320
uh and they leave the bell for
dinging and so it's like, oh,
686
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:37.679
just sit there for a bit,
and I have to sit during the one
687
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.239
section where they decide to slander the
raptors, and I'm like, this is
688
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:45.039
a very good joke. So the
professionalism, Dan Dan, I love the
689
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.679
live bell, the live belts,
well, the live bells so so good.
690
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.000
Um, okay, so what's our
Milwaukee so Milwaukee moment. There's so
691
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.400
much talk we can talk about Freddie. But end of game two and game
692
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.400
two okay, game's over. Yeah. Courtside interview with Kwhile Leonard says,
693
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.000
you guys are down two games to
nothing. You're heading back to Toronto.
694
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.440
What are you gonna do? And
Kway says, do you remember he just
695
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.639
goes win too. He's like,
I'm gonna go back to Toronto and play
696
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.519
a game. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. So matter of fact, I
697
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.559
think it was Josh Lewinburg Sure that
had the interview and and it was so
698
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.320
typical trolling Kauai where he's gonna give
you the least exciting answer you can want.
699
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:29.039
He's not gonna bite on anything,
but we Citi's fall in love with
700
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:35.679
the workman, like he's right,
He's just not And I'm gonna I'm gonna
701
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.239
go back to Toronto and try to
win a game, which is true because
702
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.199
like you can't get a walk of
life if it's just like, oh I
703
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.480
didn't do so well in this one
project, what do you do? I'm
704
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.360
gonna do the next project, right, that's it. Like you're not what
705
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.639
are you gonna say, You're not
gonna hype it out of its mind.
706
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.440
I'm not gonna go like to the
beach and start off into the distance and
707
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:58.440
like contemplate about like wise, Life
thirty six just didn't really capture all the
708
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:04.239
data. I'm not gonna deprive myself
of sleep. I'm not gonna say I'm
709
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:08.599
on a fast until we win.
And it's exactly that mentality that really became
710
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:14.280
the identity of the team and honestly
like kept them in this right. Like
711
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.119
it's the same thing like in Orlando, that's just like, yeah, we
712
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.079
lost the game, We're gonna be
fine, right, it's we got like
713
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.880
Joel emb did an airplane celebration.
We're gonna be fine. Yeah, it's
714
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.199
fine. Yeah. I think that's
a very like Spursian motive thinking, like
715
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.639
I know, great Popavich is just
kind of just like you gotta do your
716
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:37.280
thing right. People win, people
lose, you just move on. Yeah,
717
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.199
and it it infected the whole room. Yeah, everyone displayed that in
718
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.000
everything they were. Not that they
didn't have their moments of happiness and celebration,
719
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.039
but they it seemed like as soon
as the cameras went on and the
720
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.800
microphones went in front of them.
Everyone calmed back down, yeah, and
721
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.440
just said, yeah, you know
we're we're just gonna go to work.
722
00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.320
That's what we're gonna do, yea. And the humor is in how boring
723
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.519
it is, yes, like yeah, you then feed off of it.
724
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.320
Yeah, it's so dry, and
you just love it and you love it,
725
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.280
You love every minute of it because
you know you're just waiting for like
726
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:12.840
how dry can they make this?
Answer? Like how bad can this be?
727
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.119
And and they hit you with it
and everyone cackles and it's great finals,
728
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.199
that's gonna be the trophy left?
Like sure, there's not one.
729
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.480
I don't know, it's the buzzer. It was a very two minutes,
730
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:30.079
very entic on that like a drastic
park, like everyone cheering and they're realizing
731
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.039
that there's still more time and it's
like okay, but it's already over.
732
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.400
Were you at the nine o five
Championship No? No, okay. So
733
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.960
it reminds me of when nine o
five one, because which is unfair because
734
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.280
when you look at the roster and
the fact that like those are like main
735
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.480
players on the NBA championship team,
right, they should have never been allowed
736
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.960
to put that lineup out there,
no completely. So when when nine o
737
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.320
five won their championship in the d
League, there was this moment because like
738
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.320
everything went side was they were up
by a bunch in the final game,
739
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:05.199
every thing went sideways with like seconds
to go, and then the refs are
740
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.960
around the table reviewing it. Whatever
team it was that they defeated had already
741
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.679
filed off into the room, and
then the refs realized there was like point
742
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.079
nine seconds left and like guys were
in sweats and they're being dragged out.
743
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:22.360
There had been like physical altercations where
everyone was heated and they're all being dragged
744
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:27.639
onto the court for like two free
throw attempts and then an inbound that it
745
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.239
was so long over. But that's
how the end of the Raptors game kind
746
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:34.000
of was, where you're like,
Okay, they're going to check everything,
747
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.360
they're gonna make sure this ghost,
but yeah, we all know where this
748
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.840
is going over. We just want
to fucking cheer, like yeah, like
749
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.320
Golden State wants to get out of
it, right done, We're good.
750
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.000
Yeah Yeah, Raptors closed at arcle, Yeah, and just say good night,
751
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.159
so long to the Dynastay. Yeah, that's crazy wild. Right,
752
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.079
how was the parade for you?
Is it very cool? Yeah? Where
753
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:59.199
were you? Every? Like I
walked along the path so it was like
754
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:05.360
because again with Tony drum Chang is
the coolest person you'll ever made. Um
755
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:12.199
uh yeah that We started from Ovo
Athletic Center and walked the entire route for
756
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:17.719
pickdoor right. Yeah, well like
it's not that incu incubating egg and Pokemon
757
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.400
and get all time kilometers. Well
it's it's just because the crowds are so
758
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:28.000
big, and it went so like
we started on Monday and got there like
759
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.679
the next Sunday, Like I was, I was shooting that day. I
760
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:37.920
was. I was on the job
with an athlete that wasn't currently playing,
761
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:43.840
and we're in an office and the
TV's on and we couldn't believe, like
762
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.880
you guys were just outside the Prince's
gates and he's like, can you really
763
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.159
yeah, really, you're supposed to
be at the square by that time.
764
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:57.599
It moved so slow, but I
can't I wasn't there for it because I
765
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.039
was working for the Energy. It
was insane, like like I can't describe
766
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:07.519
it. You're just there and you're
just like all these people are very happy
767
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.400
about one thing. Like it's the
kind of thing that just like it makes
768
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.199
you believe in things, right,
you know, if you're there and you're
769
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.960
experiencing it, like because because there
was there um that narrative on the side
770
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:20.519
where a lot of people were very
upset with these with the idea of a
771
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.480
bandwagon fan joining on just in the
moment when they're at their highest peak.
772
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:30.480
And are you ever watch sports?
That's a sports right, if you're there,
773
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:36.320
you don't want that. You don't
want everyone to be to recognize United
774
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.719
for one positive, joyful thing.
You don't want the biggest parade in quote
775
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:45.039
unquote history. Yeah right, you
don't want to have your team on everyone's
776
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:50.440
news channel and like respected and loved
and all crazy, it's amazing, right,
777
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:08.880
I know you have to get out
of here because you have a haircut.
778
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.880
I have a haircut. Eventually,
we have time. We have a
779
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.840
little time. We have a little
bit of time, which sucks for the
780
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.519
listener, if because if you made
it through this far, like we get
781
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:22.320
through two movies and one and I'm
not even halfway down my damn half.
782
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:28.440
I'm like one of the half movies
we gave the IMDb synopsis for one of
783
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:32.039
them. Yeah, one that before
you click more. Yeah, it's the
784
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:37.440
half, it's before the fold they
call it in newspaper time, Sam fran
785
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:38.360
that's what I have next on my
list. Does that make sense for you?
786
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:40.639
We didn't see each other the whole
summer. Yeah, right, you
787
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.519
were working. You're on a TFC
beat. I was like whatever, slumming
788
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.159
around. I was doing the weekend
of the championship. I was doing a
789
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.119
lot of partying. I was on
my own little championship tour, just meeting
790
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:57.920
with different people. I was like
with a bunch of our raptors, writer
791
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.360
or beat writers, media folks.
We got together and we had we went
792
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:07.119
to Rock and Salo or Rocking Horse, Roan Horse was it was my boy
793
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:09.559
Blake E. Blake Murphy there.
Blake Murphy was there. I love Blake
794
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:14.480
Murphy. Yeah, yeah, m
E. Blake Murphy was there. And
795
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:19.079
then after the fact we went to
Oh boy, yeah it was like a
796
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:24.320
four AM rolls. It was rip
soon to be yeah yeah, yeah,
797
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:28.639
jeez. Yeah. And what start
you're gonna do, Well, he'll figure
798
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.280
out he'll open up his own Yeah, he'll just pay them to be his
799
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:37.760
cooks. And yeah, he'll just
do cooking just like traditional Chinese food.
800
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:43.480
There's no challenge teams. That was
Google and Uber eights. Yeah, it's
801
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:45.800
like the MLC trifecta right there.
You just added rolls on. Yes,
802
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.880
San Francisco. San Francisco brings us
all the way to October. Yeah,
803
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:52.519
oh my god, that much.
Like but like that's like a whole summer.
804
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.400
It is a whole summer, but
also short for him. Summary like
805
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.159
Long celebrated his championship quite a bit
in the summer. Yeah, I enjoyed
806
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:06.039
it for months. Yeah, I
did the Jerome two step come out.
807
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:10.159
It's basically just how I walked like
the whole time in like Crisp White Sneaks
808
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:15.559
that you bought brand new every single
day, and Jerome just two stepped all
809
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:19.800
the way down San Francisco. We
talked about Chicago, CDD Live count the
810
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.639
Dings. I had promised that I
was gonna go to Chicago and then just
811
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.559
couldn't do it in our line of
work, Like no one will ever hold
812
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:30.760
anyone to that, probably because yeah, it just becomes impossible really quickly.
813
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.239
You're like, yeah, one hundred
and now that you say that it was
814
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:37.320
in May, we're on a nine
part series with TSN, and so it'd
815
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.000
be like, oh, yeah,
I'm just gonna leave after I've done four.
816
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.599
But like we did Champions League,
then we're in the middle of a
817
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.119
nine part series and I'm like,
yeah, I just can't. Yeah,
818
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.039
Like people would say like, oh, it's just a week. No,
819
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.760
it's no, it's not. It's
really not. It is seventy two hours
820
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.639
which I could be working and getting
this project done, or seventy two hours
821
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.440
of having fun. I would rather
go a thousand percent, but I just
822
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.280
can't. Yeah, I have responsibilit
it is. But we did have fun
823
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.039
in San Francis. We had a
great time in San Francisco. Count The
824
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.559
Dings invaded the Bay Area and it
was my chance to finally meet the crew.
825
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.599
Yes, it's you would introduced me. It seems so fitting. I
826
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:14.440
was really glad that you were there
because it think that we were on the
827
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.440
bus tour. That's where we just
first. Yeah, that's where we first.
828
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.400
Yeah, you guys did the bus
tour. I showed up. I
829
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.320
was there if you recall, like
with a minute to spear, that's right.
830
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:24.280
And I was like, hold the
bus for me, and You're like,
831
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.320
I don't know if I can.
I'm like, just stand in front
832
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.000
of the wheel. Jade's like,
we're gonna do a bus tour, and
833
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:36.880
then everyone just like it became kind
of like a two hour discussion about weather
834
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.760
patterns in the Bay Area. Yeah, and also how weird our tour count
835
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:44.639
Oh yeah, he was something special. Yeah. He kept telling us about
836
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:47.079
how rich his neighborhood was. Did
he hit that point he was? He
837
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.559
said that, like, it's one
side of the street, other side of
838
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.079
the street. But I'm like,
you just dropped that apartment went for four
839
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.280
and a half million dollars. Yeah, I'm like, I think you're doing
840
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:58.760
pretty good operating this double decker bus
tour. Yeah. If if if you
841
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.039
were in a three hour Michael Scott
meeting on the other and everyone's Jim Halford
842
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.199
on the bus, that's what happened. Yeah, just like we're looking to
843
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.719
whatever invisible cameras around. Yeah,
we made our way to saw Celto,
844
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.199
had to sell some tacos. You
did tacos, I did burgers. You
845
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:15.559
did burgers. That's right. You
didn't want to sit down. Yeah,
846
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.960
You're like, I think I'm gonna
do something better, faster. Yeah,
847
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.960
And that was the sauce and then
we uh carry karaoke to night you carry.
848
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.239
I tried to you karaoke too.
I don't know why. Every time
849
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:30.639
I go to karaoke it just turns
into a yell no, no, no,
850
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.679
you don't, you don't, no, no no, that's really underselling.
851
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:37.559
Like you have a very like I
think you have a video. No
852
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:39.519
no no, no, no no
no. I just want to make sure
853
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:44.719
that I have notes here because I
San Francisco. Clay's got a booming voice.
854
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:49.199
Very metal, that's what it's.
Dylan can confirm. Dylan can confirm
855
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.840
very metal. It's like every time
I tried to sing a song, it's
856
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:54.920
like I'm trying to sing it without
the microphone, right, you don't need
857
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.599
it where you're you're just kind of
you know, you're at a concert point
858
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.719
where I thought you had the microphone. But that was just I was like,
859
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.760
looking, oh, the most fun
I had oddly enough so you can
860
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.599
picture everything I just said. But
then I sang Atlantis more set ironic,
861
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.519
and that I was just like,
because your voice is definitely more, you
862
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:16.679
ought to know it is ironic.
I think someone had selected it and it's
863
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.920
being done poorly. And then Jay
was like, just give him the Mikey's
864
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.440
Canadian and I'm like, yeah,
it's true. Going through like nineties hip
865
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:28.639
hop, I think is the most
fun. Yes with that crew. Yes,
866
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:32.199
like in early two as well,
I did Passion Fruit with waz My
867
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.519
Drink, which is great, and
we just like at some point just started
868
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.159
saw same because like it's a long
musical interlude and so you just go,
869
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.440
yeah, get the line sorry really
quickly. Um, if we're doing Atlantis
870
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.519
more like if you're doing alanis more
set. Like I want people to like
871
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.280
know your voice ahead, so they
just assume you could do you ought to
872
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.559
know, and then you just show
up with like head over feet, right.
873
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:58.440
I do something that the album it
does not do service No, no,
874
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:00.639
your voice for it. Yeah,
it doesn't work because I dial it
875
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:06.599
right back. But even there's like
this moment at the live show because saying
876
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.239
New York and New York. I
don't get a video of it, but
877
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.599
it's the weirdest thing because I'm just
singing it from the floor and I'm fine
878
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.360
with it, but then I get
the microphone and I don't know how to
879
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.159
dial it back down. I'm just
still yelling from the floor, right which
880
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.199
doesn't from the micro smartly like you
don't because like for me, i'll hold
881
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.519
the mic clothes because I won't really
like project a time right that you will
882
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:30.039
smartly hold them like a way.
So because I'm worried for everyone's ears,
883
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.760
it's very considerate. It's Canadian in
you right there, like we yell that
884
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:37.280
not in the kind of way that
you can hear a sailing. How did
885
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.679
the San France show? Because you've
it was my first, so I loved
886
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:43.920
it. Here I'm just getting hit
with all my favorite podcasts, like in
887
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.840
half hour interlude or a half hour
bits? How did it rank in your
888
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:51.800
experiences? Because you had done La, you had done Chicago? Had he
889
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.440
done New York before? I've done
a New York one and and now San
890
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.840
France, So it's I did Las
Vegas also, and that was like the
891
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:04.159
og one it was they did.
It was in New York before that,
892
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.440
but I enjoyed San Francisco. I'm
a huge fan of Ethan Strouss. Yeah
893
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.760
so, and he doesn't really think
it out to a bunch of them like
894
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:16.079
West Coast Job all that family.
So anytime I get to see him do
895
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.000
stuff for extending amount of time,
Like I'm a big fan and even after
896
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.679
the fact, it's like a very
nerdy thing. But we just like all
897
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.119
stood around him while he just like
espoused on anything, and we just like
898
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.320
hung on to every word of him, every word, and so like I'm
899
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.280
just a huge, huge fan of
that. It was really fun because they
900
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:37.039
couldn't say anything about the raptures right
like they did. They did, but
901
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:43.440
like they can't, which is fine
whatever, because we were still holding the
902
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.760
trophy. You can only call it
underwhelming because we want a championship. Yeah,
903
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.880
so it's cool. And then,
uh, like I think in terms
904
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:52.960
of like actual like favor I think
LA was always my favorite show. Yeah,
905
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.159
and I think that was just like
a whole weekend thing. Yeah,
906
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:58.239
it's LA. It's also LA.
It's It's everywhere I want to go.
907
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.760
It's it's one of those like perfect
storm situation. Yeah, but no,
908
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:05.800
San Franciso Cisco was really fine.
Yeah, I just enjoyed the show.
909
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.559
I just I thought they did a
really good job. We hit which one
910
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:15.559
did we have the very long conversation
about Montelli, about monte it was it
911
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:21.320
was it was a basketball buds.
Yeah, it was training Edwards. So
912
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.880
let me just set it up for
you. We'll tweet out the podcast because
913
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.199
they shot the full live show.
You might have to be a Patreon member.
914
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.639
I'll check if any sign up,
I'll give it a shot. Five
915
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.960
bucks. Yeah, like it's not
it's not a lot of money. The
916
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:43.280
amount of bonus content. It's a
time that they chuck out. It's like
917
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:45.960
TV book Club. I don't think
you can find that anywhere else. Synophobe
918
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.320
can't find that anywhere else. Like
a mail bag, like like all the
919
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.840
overtime the other hour. Yeah,
they do a two hour mail bag every
920
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:57.639
single week and and with like the
greatest mail bag is what got me into
921
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.519
them, Yes, right, because
I'm not for me, I'm not consuming
922
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.400
a lot of basketball content, so
someone like Bill Simmons can kind of fill
923
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:12.119
or was filling that for me.
But being able to start in mail bag,
924
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.440
which was so fun, just as
they were starting to phase out basketball
925
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.039
content show and so they're just talking
about life stuff. Yes, and then
926
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.840
I found my way into everything else. The first thing I did was listening
927
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.679
to Daily Dating This Morning right to
listen you know, thoughts on last night's
928
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.280
game, and everyone did. But
the amount of bonus episodes you can get
929
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.880
just by being like a five dollar
Patreon number. The mail bag is that
930
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:37.800
meme of that person who's sitting next
to a photo of people laughing together,
931
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.920
and like, this is what it's
like when I'm listening to podcasts. It's
932
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.440
that and in the best way.
Like it just it's one of those things
933
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.880
that you find yourself laughing along.
Yeah, you get caught up in it.
934
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:51.760
You're a part of the conversation.
You can write into the show,
935
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:53.519
so like they may answer one of
your questions anyway. You might even be
936
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:58.159
able to call in at any given
point, and it's just it's so much
937
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:00.719
access. It's nice. Yeah,
you just what I like about it is
938
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:05.800
that you get It reminds me kind
of the Patreon inclusion of all the other
939
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:07.440
shows. It reminds me kind of
like what we're gonna get with the TV
940
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.440
shows with Disney Plus. Not to
go kind of full circle on Marvel here,
941
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:15.039
but yeah, sure you can listen
to the public ones and you will
942
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:19.840
have a great understanding of who they
are and what they do. But you
943
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:24.920
get these running jokes that keep appearing, and you get to find an it's
944
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:30.679
a universal and you just get to
live in these stories and these jokes and
945
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.079
these bets for longer, right when
you can carry it over to Cynophobe or
946
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:37.880
TV book Club or any other ones. The second hour of a mailbag.
947
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:44.079
Right, let's do one last thing. We'll just keep going with it.
948
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.119
I'll just get my haircut. I'm
sure, yeah, can you. I
949
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:49.840
don't want to do that too,
That's fine. All right, we've gone.
950
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:55.679
You were we were, We inched
through like movies and sporting events and
951
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.639
San Francisco. I'm gonna, in
all fairness to you, try to keep
952
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.119
this one pretty short, even though
we might be able to go the longest
953
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.599
on it. The last note I
have is Star Wars. Okay, I
954
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:10.800
was because like there's also like a
very large Disney Plus conversation. Oh jesus,
955
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.400
there is a large Disney Plus.
What was the first thing you watched?
956
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:18.719
Oh you already? Was it Endgame? Nope? No, the first
957
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.440
thing I watched? I'm pretty sure. Uh no, yeah, it's definitely
958
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.760
it Sister Act two back in the
Heaven. Yes, I watched. So
959
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.320
I was when it came out.
I was in Hawaii. I was on
960
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.920
vacation, and and my brother and
sister in law came with me this time
961
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:34.960
and We're like, so do we
get it? Like or is that weird?
962
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:36.800
And we're like no, no,
we have to get it. And
963
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:41.039
so the first day we just spent
the whole day inside. I watched The
964
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:44.880
Mandalorian that was watched episode one.
That took me a while, like not
965
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.199
because just I just to get fi. Yeah, and then like when I
966
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.480
start, I was like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah, so
967
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.639
I watched The Mandalorian right away.
I was like, going, it has
968
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:55.719
to be the first thing I watched. But we then watched Little Mermaid,
969
01:04:56.039 --> 01:05:00.280
and then we watched Sister Act as
well. We watched Oh we went they
970
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.480
have a whole whack of really wickedly
nineteen thirties and nineteen forties like cartoon shorts,
971
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:09.280
Like it's right if he learns to
finish, let's save Star Wars from
972
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:13.280
when we get shine. Oh after
you want to do this another time,
973
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:15.360
We Sean, that's a great idea, so we don't spoil it from and
974
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.360
we just stay in the Disney Plus. So Sean, you can listen to
975
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:23.000
this episode. If you made this
far, we'll tell you outside you can
976
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:25.840
listen to this now that you can
keep listening. You know, he doesn't
977
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.599
listen to me. The poor guy
has to listen to me all day long.
978
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.039
You think he tunes into a podcast
to hear my voice, No chance,
979
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.079
Dylan. Can you give him the
Jerome only edit? That would be
980
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:40.079
so interesting you just hear one voice
the whole time. Yeah, it wouldn't
981
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:42.239
be great, No, I don't
think, but it would be funny.
982
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:44.719
Yeah, it'd be meat. You
can dubbin. Do you ever watch run
983
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:48.679
those old weird al interviews that he'd
do where he would just cut himself into
984
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:54.199
actual interviews, asking weird questions that
the answers kind of fit through. Yes,
985
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:58.480
okay, so we're gonna save Star
Wars Disney Plus so sister act to
986
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:04.239
the ball An endgame, just the
battle because it's a movie in itself,
987
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:11.360
a like on the fly quick edit
of all the Mighty Ducks into one.
988
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.039
I just like watched specific scenes to
tell the full story, and you kept
989
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.440
fast forwarding it. Yeah, just
skipping ahead. Um. Fulton read for
990
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:23.760
life. Fulton read for life.
I think I wanted to like the slapshot's
991
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:28.559
way better than knuckle pick. It
is the knucks we grew up. I
992
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:32.519
grew up trying to make the knuckle
puck work. I still try and it
993
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.360
doesn't Like now, I just like
every time I flip a puck up on
994
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:39.000
its side, I'm like knuckle buck
time, and then I just skate around
995
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:43.519
somewhere. Yeah. What else,
probably some like scenes from Marvel. I
996
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:46.519
watched the entire series of Boy Meats
World. Oh wow, Yeah, but
997
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:51.119
like dug in the kind of way
that where it's like I would sit down
998
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:54.360
and watch, but other times it
would just be in the background on do
999
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.039
whenever Dark Wing Duck. I hit
that up. I was a big friend.
1000
01:06:57.079 --> 01:06:59.880
I didn't watch it, but I
was watched the first season. Yeah,
1001
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.599
like in a kid show kind of
way. Sure, okay, I
1002
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.079
loved it. I won't watch it
another time. Yeah, fair right,
1003
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.920
but I'll watch the series all the
way through this time. Yeah. Uh.
1004
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:12.639
Friend another friend of the show,
Emily Agard, I love a big
1005
01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.679
fan of Boy Meets World. So
we were dealing. Yeah, that's great.
1006
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:19.800
We're talking back and forth about that, and I met to Panga.
1007
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.199
She came. She came, is
hed her name, I think, so
1008
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.119
yeah, I'm glad that one of
us knows it makes for a more informational
1009
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:30.760
podcast. She came to the Upper
Canada Mall in New American Ontario, and
1010
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.079
I was like, yeah, you
better believe I'm going to meet to Panga,
1011
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.519
even though I felt awkward at the
time, but whatever, it was
1012
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:41.599
a teenager were award. Yeah,
exactly. Um, and see I watched
1013
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:49.039
only the only the scenes where they
returned, like the original cast returned,
1014
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:58.039
um of Girl Meets the World,
which, uh, I will I will
1015
01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:02.360
just say this Girl Meets World is
too boy Meets World. What the new
1016
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:06.599
trilogy of Star Wars is to the
OG trilogy? Oh no, no,
1017
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:12.599
no no, but not in a
bad way. It's it's essentially a revisit
1018
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:18.560
of a classic series with a female
protagonist that has moments in it that allow
1019
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:24.680
for every returning casts to show what
in organic ways Drome made with air quotes,
1020
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:30.199
right, No one can say that's
that descriptive listen descriptive. This podcast
1021
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.279
being accompanied by a descriptive listening interesting. I don't think I'm gonna give it
1022
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:39.760
a watch. I'm sorry, No, don't don't. I'm not interesting.
1023
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:44.279
Yeah, yeah, we wouldn't have
to. I watch Girl Meets World,
1024
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:46.600
so no one else would have to. So I have four bullet point things
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01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:50.479
I thought we'd go through very quickly
as we're reflecting on twenty nineteen. Sure,
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01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:54.800
and this is kind of an idea
spawned off of something I do personally
1027
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:58.680
in a journal okay every single year, but this is more of like a
1028
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:01.039
podcast friendly version. Sure, let's
start. It's a podcast. Why don't
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01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.840
we start with a fave new podcast
that you stumbled across this year? Over
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01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:09.119
twenty nineteen, I'm thinking this must
be the year I started it, so
1031
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:12.399
it has to be all fantasy everything. Yeah, yeah, all Fantasy everything
1032
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.800
dates back to twenty seventeen. Ian
Carmel David Boris Sean. I met Ian
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01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.960
Carmel in Los Angeles. When I
went, it was like, I like
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01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.239
one because I was out with Zack
Zach's friends with Ian. We showed up
1035
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:27.520
a bar. I was like Hi, I'm Jerome and he's like black Dragon
1036
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:32.199
Roll and I was like, oh
cool. He said your name like dr
1037
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:34.439
name, But like it was just
because like we have coming friends. So
1038
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:39.359
like, of course I was wearing
yesterday and I'm not obviously don't have it
1039
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.119
on today, but I was sporting
my ol Fantasy everything. Sure, yesterday.
1040
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.479
Nice, It's great. Yes yeah. Shouts to the boys from AFE
1041
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:50.600
Locking it Down Headgun podcast doing great
stuff. Fave song and or band you
1042
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:54.600
came across, and it doesn't have
to be like a twenty nineteen song,
1043
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:57.680
but it's just like, oh wow, I just kind of I rolled in
1044
01:09:57.800 --> 01:09:59.920
this person. I kind of got
in a mood with these kind of guys
1045
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:03.520
for me. We launched new podcast
called Columbia House Party with e Blake Murphy
1046
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:10.199
and Jake Goldspey, and Jake introduced
me to a band called Dasa Parasitos,
1047
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:14.680
which is conn or burst side project, side side project, depending on how
1048
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:16.640
you want to count it. And
I've had that album and it came he
1049
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.680
the album's from like oh three or
something, but I just heard it for
1050
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:24.680
the first time in December twenty nineteen, and I've had it on repeat,
1051
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.920
that whole album NonStop. And so
obviously when I write my end of year
1052
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:32.199
list of like what's important to me, I'm like, yep, I'm gonna
1053
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:39.000
go with Billie Eilish, Oh yeah, you wine, like but like almost
1054
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:41.600
like as a full package, yes, Like I just like she seems like
1055
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.439
doing the nude Bond theme. Yeah, yeah, I s I sent I
1056
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:50.039
found out and sent that some my
girlfriend and she was like insanely exactly,
1057
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:56.760
But I think in the kind of
way too, just because at our age,
1058
01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:00.439
it's it would be very easy to
dismiss someone like Billy And No,
1059
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.680
she's just super refreshing. Like everything
she's about her music is fantastic. She's
1060
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:11.760
a really neat contradiction of like stereotypes. Yeah, that makes sense where where
1061
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:17.600
you star. She's an anti popstar, but so much soul and experience and
1062
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:24.279
life in her music. One way
I like breaking it down is I heard
1063
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:27.560
them actually on another podcast, I
would shout out still processing, Oh I
1064
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.640
haven't heard it so good check it
out after this, Yeah, Jenna Wortham,
1065
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:34.279
Wesley Morris. That just culture writers
for New York Times bring it in.
1066
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:40.520
It's so good. Um. But
she's very anti mainstream in a very
1067
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.079
organic way, like in a way
that is very true to her. It's
1068
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.680
true. You don't feel like it's
manufactured by Zach anyone in an office.
1069
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.319
Yeah whatsoever. Yeah, you just
think she's a product for parents, and
1070
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:54.359
you listen to her talk about her
parents and kind of the culture that her
1071
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:57.760
parents grew her up and you're like, oh, yeah, it makes sense
1072
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.840
that they came out with you at
the end faiths sports play. I mean,
1073
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:06.039
it's easy to do the Kawai one. It is easy, So I'm
1074
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:11.159
gonna just say not the cup,
like it's the Kawai one. But outside
1075
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:16.479
of that, the Alejandro Pezuelo would
chip in his debut. Yeah, first
1076
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:21.680
game put everyone on notice. Another
story. No, well it's it's because
1077
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:27.640
um well, it's like it was
in insane play. We were beside that
1078
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.880
during it, like we lost our
freaking mind when it happened. Um.
1079
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:35.399
But also because specifically at the beginning
of last season, Greg Veerman and I
1080
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:41.039
had a running bit that we were
enemies and we decided it but like enemies
1081
01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:43.920
in the way that we did nothing
that enemies would do. Of course,
1082
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:46.640
we'd compliment each other two nicest people
in the world, but like we but
1083
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:49.039
we would just tell everybody that we
were enemies and just people would just be
1084
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:53.600
confused. But in that moment,
we couldn't stick to the bit. We
1085
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:59.399
embraced each other, hugged like full
on jumped into each other's arms and hugged.
1086
01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:03.279
And that's mostly why I love that
moment, because we couldn't stick to
1087
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.840
our joke. You're like, no, no, this calls for something so
1088
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:10.119
much, so excited and blown away. Yeah, and because we haven't talked
1089
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:14.039
about much television, though there's some
very interesting television. They're wrapped up this
1090
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:17.920
year. Very interesting television that kicked
off this year. It extends into Netflix
1091
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:21.239
and all the other streaming services.
Because it's unfair to say not too.
1092
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:27.560
I have a very clear answer for
this one because I binged it really hard.
1093
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.079
Okay, but I'm gonna let you
go first because you're the guest and
1094
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:32.439
I don't want to steal your answer. Watchman, Yeah, that's mine too.
1095
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:38.159
It's five. It's solid high five. It didn't translate them so well
1096
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:43.960
over these mics, but it's a
good high five. It was so good,
1097
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.039
you know how you have so many
Like Game of Thrones is a pretty
1098
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:50.039
good example, even breaking bad like
obviously they'd go over the course of multiple
1099
01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:55.520
seasons and they're fantastic series like that
have achieved like the highest of highs,
1100
01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:00.359
but they're kind of slow burns.
Right to come to begin with yea in
1101
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:04.960
its world building, and it's not
even that Watchman benefits from its previous world
1102
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:09.359
because actually it does it through the
course of it, and you don't necessarily
1103
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:14.159
like it's it's only like later on
that you start realizing what all the connections
1104
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:15.840
are, but like it starts off
as its own original series, but that
1105
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:20.000
one starts with such a bang.
I think what I loved about it is
1106
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:27.279
that it presented everything to you in
a methodical way. Right. It's not
1107
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:30.039
like you're watching the beginning of Save
a Private, Saving Private Ryan or something
1108
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:34.960
where it's so visually jarring that you
don't know which way is up. Everything
1109
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.840
is presented to you're like, yeah, yeah, I understand what they're saying,
1110
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:42.279
but I don't understand what the fuck's
going on. Yeah. Time after
1111
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.760
time after time you're like, I
know, I understand what they're saying,
1112
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:53.479
yeah, but I have no idea
what's going on. And that that process
1113
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:58.119
of I call it earning. You
earn the win or you earn like the
1114
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.279
nugget of information. It is what
I was going to say, Like you
1115
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.880
you kind of struggle at the top
because someone just happening. You're trying to
1116
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:06.800
figure out what's going on, and
then they drop a nugget and you're like,
1117
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.399
Okay, this is intriguing. I
want to find out what happens next.
1118
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.520
And they did it. They placed
it. The tempo of it,
1119
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:17.720
yeah, is so perfect that when
you look back at it, like it
1120
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:21.319
all makes sense and in the moment, you never feel like I had to
1121
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:27.920
wait to get here and then that
Dodger Manhattan. The episode is stupid for
1122
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.119
me. It is episode three.
I think they call the joke. I
1123
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.720
think it's called the joke. Okay, if you've seen it, you know
1124
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.079
exactly what I'm referring to. If
you haven't seen a un Pretty Shirts episode
1125
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:41.600
three. I work so so much, and I talk to people so much
1126
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:46.479
on framing devices and creating framing devices
for the information homespace that everyone can go
1127
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:50.640
back to feel comfortable before they go
out into the next chapter of something.
1128
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:56.960
The Joke, in my opinion,
is the most perfectly framed episode of television
1129
01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.600
I've ever watched. Drome. I
gotta get you out of here because I
1130
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:01.319
know how dick they get at four
o'clock. Okay, I want your car
1131
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:05.520
to be there. Uh second time
back. Yeah, this is so much.
1132
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:11.640
I love the way this was really
long anyway, because we had we
1133
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.960
had so much to catch up.
You're like, we'll start at endgame.
1134
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.039
I'm like, oh cool, we
just guest on endgame right now, so,
1135
01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.880
uh, the way we like to
end everything. I'm wye as well.
1136
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:20.920
The second time back, we'll do
it the same, of course.
1137
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:26.119
Please please, please be good to
yourself and eat your vegetables. See your
1138
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:28.319
vegetables. Don't get a ticket.