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00:00:03.450What's going on guys and welcome back to another episode of the snapchat today.
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00:00:07.110We're going to be talking about the brand new card that is Thunderbolt Ross.
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00:00:07.820Does he suck?
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00:00:08.539Yes, he does.
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00:00:11.199But the good news is we have a brand new game mode coming in.
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00:00:12.509It's sanctum showdown.
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00:00:14.349That's going to bring three brand new cards.
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00:00:17.629Two Marvel snap and card masteries on the way.
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00:00:18.839So we have a lot to talk about today.
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00:00:25.059And as always, I am joined by the one, the only Mr.
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00:00:30.269Alex Kocha and Alex, if I sound any different, my mic of five years has died.
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00:00:55.625From the old days, got a brand new one coming in, but we got something temporary for right now, and it's also the day after the Super Bowl, we usually record on Sundays, and we would probably know the results, but it is Saturday today, and so we don't know who won congratulations to the Chiefs getting their three peat, or and, or Eagles getting their second, and the city of Philadelphia up in Philadelphia.
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00:00:57.615Flames, Alex, how are you doing today, buddy?
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00:00:59.204I'm doing good, I'm doing good.
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00:01:04.534I like how your temporary mic is SM7B, like literally a god tier mic that is renowned across the industry.
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00:01:05.855But no, not for Cozy Snap.
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00:01:07.605It ain't good enough for Cozy Snap, damn it.
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00:01:08.644Gotta get your custom mic.
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00:01:12.405I, you know what, I gotta tell you, you sound fantastic, you look fantastic.
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00:01:18.025The color's coming back to your skin after the last few weeks of you battling pretty much every illness known to man.
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00:01:19.495It's good to see Cozy back.
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00:01:20.625Thank you, man.
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00:01:21.344I appreciate it.
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00:01:22.655And it's it's the end, man.
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00:01:27.974It's the end of football season and it's the beginning of well, not the beginning of a new Marvel snap season.
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00:01:37.484That was last week, but certainly a beginning of what they've been saying, the new era, we've got some cool things to talk about today, guys, new location and all got a little Superbowl story for you.
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00:01:40.155So there, I don't know about you, but in life, right?
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00:01:45.325Do you ever you're across a moment and you're somewhere and you think to yourself, like, I'll never be here again.
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00:01:47.194I need to appreciate like where I'm at.
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00:01:54.855Like, do you have any of those to pull from that you can remember of like a place in a time that you're like, I'll never be at this exact moment again.
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00:01:58.995In that club with Lugwood, again, XQC in San Diego.
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00:02:02.980That's not a bad answer, man.
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00:02:03.700That's not a bad answer.
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00:02:06.489It's something I try to think of it all the time, right?
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00:02:07.950Like when I was getting married, right?
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00:02:13.639Or whatever, just like trying to do like snapshots in my head of like, wow, I'll never be able to experience something like this again.
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00:02:23.090So long story short, my grandfather was the previous He owned the company that did the licensing for all apparel for the NFL.
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00:02:25.389This was back in like the, the 60s, 70s.
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00:02:35.659You know, my dad went to every single Super Bowl and I didn't process how insanely rare it is to go to a Super Bowl and just experience the crazy chaos of what it is.
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00:02:42.620So long story short, I got to go to my first Super Bowl and it happened to be the Falcons versus the Patriots.
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00:02:48.539Super Bowl 51, which arguably is, in my opinion, okay, I'm a Patriots fan, but the best Super Bowl of all time.
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00:02:50.750There's gotta be someone that's a Falcons fan out there.
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00:02:52.370I'm 28 3, I'm sorry.
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00:02:53.680You're still thinking about it.
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00:02:54.949Greatest comeback of all time.
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00:03:02.819But I got to be able to experience that and the Rams won and it's, dude, going to the city, the game's amazing.
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00:03:03.681Very corporate y.
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00:03:06.985There's not as many fans as you would think that get to go there.
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00:03:08.164It's a very corporate thing.
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00:03:14.284But the city that hosted it, dude, it's like a, it's like the Olympics, man.
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00:03:17.074It's so, it's so cool to be able to go and experience that.
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00:03:28.814And so if it's ever, I dunno, in Buffalo, which it won't be, I think it's only in, in, in hot States you got to check it out or if anyone listening you're near New Orleans or the next city, I think has maybe Las Vegas.
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00:03:29.175I don't know.
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00:03:32.814Got to go check out Superbowl, you know, the city game, the Superbowl school stuff.
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00:03:37.025That reminds me of, like, my experience at Formula One in Montreal, I guess.
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00:03:39.025I think that's the closest I can get to a similar experience.
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00:03:43.014Where it's like, my buddy lived in Montreal because he was going to McGill, which is like, the university there.
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00:03:51.414And so we stayed on the cheap, we were there, we bought, like, the cheapest tickets available for Formula One, which were still like 280 or something, which at the time was like, so much for us.
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00:03:53.414And like, the whole city was crazy.
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00:03:59.485And it was like, Like legit, like Ferraris in the streets or like the richest dudes were just driving around doing doughnuts and stuff.
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00:04:00.675I was like, what is happening here?
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00:04:02.844You know, it was just, it was pretty cool.
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00:04:03.534It was pretty cool.
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00:04:04.615It was it was a neat experience.
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00:04:08.935It's like, yeah, the race was cool, but the city was alive in a way that like I'd never seen before.
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00:04:11.525And Montreal as a whole is like the Vegas of Canada.
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00:04:15.985Formula one is something that you have to be there in person to appreciate just how insanely cool it is.
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00:04:18.095Like, you know, you see NASCAR or whatever.
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00:04:28.279Or even f1 on tv and you're like cool, you know fast cars when you're there, dude And you can feel the car in your body as it goes by like it's great It's a very cool environment for sure.
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00:04:29.079But all right guys.
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00:04:33.350Well, we have a lot to talk about today We're gonna be talking about four new cards today, which is crazy.
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00:04:40.194Some of them are Not exactly home run hits, but I'll be excited to talk about him and we got a lot to talk about on Alex's side.
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00:04:41.055Alex, enlighten us.
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00:04:41.774What are we talking about?
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00:04:45.415We're talking about Sam Wilson and Joaquin Torres Falcon.
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00:04:49.524We'll also be talking about cards that need to drop in series.
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00:04:52.904They discuss a series drops from becoming sooner and bigger than ever before.
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00:04:55.535And Hey, we're about that time where it should be coming up.
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00:05:00.045Sometime in the near future, we'll be discussing some cards and then as always, our Snapchat mailbag.
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00:05:01.774Alrighty, buddy.
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00:05:13.285Well, let's go in and start this thing off with probably, usually the new card is the most exciting thing to talk about of the week, but we've got some other things, probably a bit more exciting, but we've got to talk about them.
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00:05:16.305The one, the only Thaddeus Thunderbolts Ross.
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00:05:19.944What a name, you know, that he says his full name when he introduces himself.
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00:05:32.129To a lady at the bar every single time ttr for short now We thought potentially before the trailer came out that we were going to see maybe a little bit of a buff up in this Guy, maybe something was a bit off here.
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00:05:33.610Nope.
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00:05:37.769It is exactly as advertised as we thought That is TTR.
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00:05:50.850So Alex, we gave some of our unfiltered takes last week on this guy.
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00:05:52.079What are we thinking of TTR?
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00:05:54.420I see like.
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00:05:58.750Two star potential, like a one and a half, two star potential range.
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00:06:01.170Obviously card draw can be incredibly powerful in Marvel snap.
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00:06:10.269And I don't want to like discredit him because I think that like, when I was trying to kind of pen and paper some decks obviously surger is a major component of where I think TTR is going to be.
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00:06:13.475But it, and it actually has space in the two slots to kind of fit them.
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00:06:18.415Like it does not feel like a, like a reach to just throw them into that kind of deck.
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00:06:25.185But at the same time, it's like this effect feels strong, but I do not like the fact that your opponent is in control of it.
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00:06:30.954And of course it has to be on the board on turn two, when they are actually floating the energy to take advantage of it.
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00:06:33.105You know, I'm, I'm not a big fan of it.
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00:06:37.014I can see this card being the 15th card in every 12 card deck.
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00:06:45.029Yeah, I think I said on the preview a two two and I'll give him a two and that sounds about right even less than that.
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00:06:47.250It's even hard giving him a two a little bit too, right?
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00:06:48.639Like I almost want to give him a one.
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00:06:53.939Just because of ultimately his narrow design, where he's going to fit.
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00:06:57.750And then even in those decks, does he even want to belong there?
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00:07:00.180Like there's some examples we have of that.
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00:07:04.519Let's say in discard, maybe something like meek for a long time, obviously now makes it a little bit better.
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00:07:11.209Cause we have, you know, a bullseye and whatnot, but back then it's like meek didn't even want to be in the niche deck that he was in.
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00:07:12.990And that made him a bad card for a while.
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00:07:16.079This is kind of the same feelings I have from TTR over here.
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00:07:19.220I do like his pose.
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00:07:20.540I think he looks very menacing.
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00:07:22.779He reminds me of have you seen Inside Out?
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00:07:26.920Yeah, I have actually.
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00:07:27.720I know it's a good one.
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00:07:47.810Yeah, yeah, and so there's the the best part of that movie is when they go to the parents and there's like the, in the mind of the parents and the dad, you know, asks the, the kid to do something and she, you know, yell at him and she's like, he's like, initiating put the foot down and it like, they have like a special nuke button for putting the foot down that looks like a dad putting the foot down right there, man, with the the presence of TTR.
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00:07:54.225Do you think that this guy is, has any room to surprise us?
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00:07:55.625You know what?
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00:07:56.365Potentially.
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00:07:58.694There's a chance that he can do something in Erishim.
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00:08:04.435If you think about the size of the deck with Erishim, he provides some consistency there, but obviously you're less likely to draw him.
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00:08:04.665Right.
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00:08:10.225However, with the new version of Erishim, you have basically the first two turns where essentially like.
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00:08:15.024Yeah, you're going to want to play a one or two because obviously you don't have that that existing extra energy.
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00:08:23.105And so if you float and then you draw something with 10 power on that turn three, you're more likely to be able to play something of significant power because you have the extra energy.
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00:08:25.834So I was thinking about Arishom, I'm like, ah, could it work?
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00:08:29.675But Arishom decks, I think have been pretty strong and we've talked about this a number of times.
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00:08:39.534Like I'm actually not a huge fan of where Arishom is because of the fact that like, he's, I feel like his identity is kind of you know, just muddied compared to what it used to be, but ultimately like.
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00:08:45.634It's like trying to talk about, you know like toxin and try to say, Oh, I'm going to put toxin in this shell and this shell.
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00:08:50.975It's like, well, no, it's going to be a bounce card and Thaddeus Thunder Ross is going to be a chonky boy card.
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00:08:52.465It's going to go in searcher decks.
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00:09:00.865Don't try and force it in surfer decks or whatever, which obviously is literally an impossible synergy, but I'm just saying don't force it.
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00:09:02.414Let it do what it's designed to do.
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00:09:04.014And even then I'm not sold.
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00:09:09.924You're not going to run TTR with your Surtur and your Silver Surfer decks to get the 10 power cards out, get Surtur up there.
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00:09:10.684Come on, man, Alex.
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00:09:14.384I thought you'd be and also usually, you know, this guy, I've got like two bullet points on.
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00:09:15.934And last week I brought up Aarishem.
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00:09:17.554I'm like, all right, this is going to be my bullet point.
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00:09:18.524Got some things to talk about.
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00:09:25.044So I am, I'm left just naked and alone over here.
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00:09:27.754No, I do think Aarishem is a decent spot for him.
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00:09:29.215I mean, we'll talk about a new card coming out that.
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00:09:34.210Is going to counter Arishem even more, even though yeah, I think you put it right.
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00:09:42.340It's almost like some of these designs were made when Arishem was where he was at, and now that he's taken back a little bit, feels a little bit off of the timing for these cards.
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00:09:48.549So, yeah, potentially Arishem, and then with that, you also got, obviously, the Scar, and then the 10 plus power decks.
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00:09:53.820Now, I think I talked about last time, I do like the idea that he does.
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00:10:00.620Get better over time in the sense of there's gonna be more 10 power cards that come out Okay, you can make those work his animation's sick.
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00:10:27.855I don't know if you saw the the trailer It's like a like a payload coming in from a helicopter of your 10 power card pretty cool stuff there yeah, I think what I I think what we talked about last time is if they made this guy a one cost I really like him because he just works with the flow of the deck extremely well He's not I would probably make space for him for a one cost because I, I feel like he just would play better and you have a much more accurate of a shot for the opponent not to use their energy.
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00:10:33.595Maybe on turn one, you immediately get that 10 draw and it just feels good right by turn two.
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00:10:39.304You wouldn't think one turn difference is a big deal, but it is there's just so many things I can fit that role fit that spot.
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00:10:55.940So it's hard for me to like it I know we talked about last time that you know, obviously the play of being able to get him down with some zabu action zabu within him is cool and certainly that three card line two card line Could work out, but I think it's just, that's just another card.
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00:10:58.179It takes too much away from the core deck.
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00:11:03.690And it's what we said last week is it's a 12 car deck game.
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00:11:06.200And sometimes there's designs that are hindered by that.
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00:11:07.600And to me, TTR is that.
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00:11:09.315Yeah, exactly.
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00:11:14.164Like if you're playing Magic or Lorkana or like any card game with a larger deck, right?
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00:11:16.245Like even Commander runs 100 cards, right?
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00:11:19.115Like, yeah, you throw Thunderbolt Ross in there, right?
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00:11:25.664But like, in a game like Marvel Snap where the decks are so tight and each card has to really pull its weight.
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00:11:28.154That's really what makes Marvel Snap decks so effective.
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00:11:29.904It's like each individual play is so impactful.
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00:11:32.325And TTR doesn't do that.
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00:11:42.384And with regards to him being a one cost, that is interesting, but I still think to some degree, he's still kind of, you still have, you still want to draw into him, right?
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00:11:48.475So you're going to want to hope to draw into him early because he's a, not a dead play on turn six, but he effectively is useless on turn six.
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00:11:53.120And if you think about another point, 2 2 is a terrible stat line.
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00:11:55.909Like, cards are not surviving at 2 2.
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00:11:58.750Jeff's a 2 3 and doesn't see play right now.
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00:12:00.259To put it in perspective, right?
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00:12:03.419There's been so much power creep as we discussed last week at the two slot.
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00:12:06.049Why would you play a 2 2 with limited upside?
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00:12:08.039So it really has to pull its weight.
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00:12:09.149That's why I'm with you.
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00:12:10.789I'm surprised that it didn't get nerfed.
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00:12:14.440And I think that Glenn has been traditionally very hesitant with card draw.
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00:12:16.139Like, I totally respect that.
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00:12:19.424But at the same time, like, this card's not exciting at all.
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00:12:31.934Yeah, I mean, if we look at the other 2 2s, you have Carnage, a massive setup card, Dagger that infinitely goes higher, Dazzler goes much higher, Forge is setting up, you know, Forge has infinite plug and play ability and sets setup plays.
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00:12:40.784You know, you have Goose that enables at least strategy and, and, and, honestly, Goose isn't a tremendously great card, but at least it's a fair comparison to Thunderbolt.
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00:12:42.500Goose could go to a 2 3.
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00:12:46.909Hasmat, we already know the insane synergy and power flip that you can do with that.
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00:12:50.080Loki's doing his whole shtick that he does.
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00:12:54.559Master Mold at least is having a pretty powerful effect immediately against the opponent.
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00:12:56.779But Deuce is going to a 2 5.
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00:12:57.740There's actually a lot of 2 2s.
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00:12:59.299Mirage is giving you another card.
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00:13:00.947You're getting 2 4 out of synergy.
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00:13:01.490Mojo goes up.
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00:13:01.500Psylocke's ramping.
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00:13:03.210Ravonna's in.
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00:13:06.059There's a lot of 2 2s, but they all do something.
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00:13:10.610That I feel is much stronger than what Thunderbolt Ross is giving us.
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00:13:13.549And that's what's, that's what's interesting.
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00:13:16.179Now, maybe it feels good to play.
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00:13:17.179We've been there before.
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00:13:18.230We've been there before.
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00:13:21.169But I think this one is one we can feel pretty safe at saying.
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00:13:35.289We don't love the idea from you know, if we do go to just 10 power and up, right, as my game lags behind here we'll go here to 10 power, anything that sticks out where it's like, man, drawing this early is going to be pretty dang cool.
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00:13:42.799Hulk Iwould say for Evo because it's going to take advantage of the floated energy early and it's going to like get prox, right?
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00:13:47.429So like, I would definitely think Hulk to some degree, she Hulk as well, but I don't like, I was looking at this.
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00:13:48.620I was trying to make an Evo deck.
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00:13:49.240It's funny.
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00:13:54.000I actually think Evo with the new the new buff to Luna snow might actually be better than people think it is.
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00:13:54.639I was testing it.
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00:13:55.159I'm like, huh.
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00:13:59.230Either, everyone I'm playing against is a bot, or this deck's actually not bad.
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00:14:01.440So that's a, that's another video for another day.
00:14:01.759 -->
00:14:03.269But I would say definitely the Hulk.
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00:14:04.419She hulks in there as well.
00:14:04.440 -->
00:14:09.590I don't know if I, I run like Infernaut technically in those decks, but you could technically run Infernaut in those types of decks as well.
00:14:09.830 -->
00:14:12.320But you start to run out of space for your activators early on.
00:14:12.779 -->
00:14:16.090Yeah, I would say Evo's potentially a place, but I think Surge is the most natural.
00:14:16.120 -->
00:14:18.899Yeah, we said what, Hela, you know, whatever.
00:14:18.899 -->
00:14:23.669I mean, kind of like it works in there, but then you're kind of limiting what you What you need to do.
00:14:23.690 -->
00:14:27.200It just, you're replacing a line with a line, right?
00:14:27.259 -->
00:14:34.980Like you're replacing, let's say, a two cost discard or another, anything, any other type of role in that deck with TTR.
00:14:35.409 -->
00:14:36.860And I don't hate hybrid decks.
00:14:36.879 -->
00:14:38.220I think they can work sometimes.
00:14:38.470 -->
00:14:41.340But like, when you have something like Hella, it's typically an all in, right?
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00:15:07.490And making that one thing work really well and, and so yeah, as, as it said best, he is solving a problem that we don't really have at the moment and that's the overall expectation of TTR, so with other cards coming out, it is a recommended pass for us, at least right now, we might be eating our words, but who knows, time will tell, let's move on, shall we, to more important More exciting things Alex.
00:15:08.309 -->
00:15:09.389I would love to move on sir.
00:15:09.539 -->
00:15:10.549We said last week.
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00:15:12.289We said last week.
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00:15:50.700Hey, you know I hope that the trailer doesn't have anything of significant value that we would miss and Lo and behold they decided to drop not only a brand new game mode, but three new cards Which is I would say on a level of importance that we missed So today we're gonna break down all those all the new cards here starting out with Laufey Alex, and Laufey is a Frost Giant who is a 4 cost, 5 power card and interesting ability of on reveal, you will steal 1 power from each other card here when you play him down.
00:15:51.049 -->
00:15:56.289Definitely interesting, and before we get into any talk on him, immediate star rating?
00:15:57.230 -->
00:15:58.940Oh, we're doing star ratings for the free cards?
00:15:58.940 -->
00:15:59.570Of course we are.
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00:16:01.639Oh man, I was not prepared for this.
00:16:02.750 -->
00:16:03.299It's okay.
00:16:03.330 -->
00:16:03.929I wasn't either.
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00:16:05.450I don't have them down, but let's do a quick.
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00:16:07.289It's like three and a half, four, man.
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00:16:10.759I, I think this is the best card of the three that we're going to talk about.
00:16:10.850 -->
00:16:12.600I can, I can confidently say that.
00:16:13.460 -->
00:16:14.200I think one's better.
00:16:14.559 -->
00:16:15.379You think one's better.
00:16:15.429 -->
00:16:15.950I, okay.
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00:16:16.830That is uncle Ben.
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00:16:17.200No.
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00:16:19.500So I, I feel, I feel like.
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00:16:21.514This guy's being slept on a little bit.
00:16:21.524 -->
00:16:23.014So first of all, he's gonna be stealing.
00:16:23.014 -->
00:16:26.115So we know that that always counts for two power typically, right?
00:16:26.684 -->
00:16:50.700He's stealing from your lane and the opponent's lane to build himself up Which you know, there is some potential synergy there Obviously, we've got tremendous synergy with the clear cut Ajax Who's gonna like this guy because you're having power being taken from your cards and their cars Ajax goes up so theoretically, you know him and Ajax in separate lanes.
00:16:50.700 -->
00:16:51.259It's kind of cool.
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00:16:54.950Builds up two big power cards and then also Diamondback, who we just talked about.
00:16:55.090 -->
00:16:57.240Diamondback's a huge winner from this guy.
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00:17:00.019If you plan on getting Diamondback, this is the card you want to target.
00:17:00.320 -->
00:17:03.919We're going to talk about the, the new game mode here in just a moment.
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00:17:06.400To understand how to even get these guys.
00:17:06.759 -->
00:17:10.190But there's a couple other synergies people are thinking about.
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00:17:11.630Now, I want you guys to understand.
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00:17:19.410Stealing the power means if there's just two cards on your opponent's side, not your side, but just your opponent's side, you're getting a 4 9.
00:17:19.569 -->
00:17:20.890Yeah, no, it's, it's awesome.
00:17:20.890 -->
00:17:27.700Like, if, let's say you're against a zoo player, and they're zooing into an Ant Man location, and you play Laufey down, like, that's huge value.
00:17:28.099 -->
00:17:30.150Like, it's actually pretty impressive what you can do.
00:17:30.420 -->
00:17:35.099It reminds me of a, it's basically Cracked Out Rocket and Groot that can't move.
00:17:35.579 -->
00:17:35.910Right?
00:17:36.410 -->
00:17:36.740Yeah.
00:17:36.900 -->
00:17:49.765So, I mean, if we look at other, if we look at other cards that are 4 9, 4 10, we were just going, you know, we're saying Ares is so good at that 4 12, this guy's got the potential to be with one card of 4 7, two card of 4 9.
00:17:50.404 -->
00:17:52.134411 or 13.
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00:17:53.424That's really good.
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00:18:03.634The awkward thing is you'd have to play them late to get that 413 or even 411, but a 49 with not a lot of play and then also synergize, or even the 411 that can happen a good amount of the time.
00:18:03.914 -->
00:18:04.444That's huge.
00:18:04.444 -->
00:18:05.255That's a good.
00:18:05.579 -->
00:18:06.619Way to play him.
00:18:07.170 -->
00:18:09.589Plus he's got other synergy on top of that with the other cards.
00:18:09.660 -->
00:18:11.000That's why I think he might be a winner.
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00:18:11.950Yeah.
00:18:11.950 -->
00:18:14.829And you'd have to consider as well, like with Zabu, he comes down to three.
00:18:15.029 -->
00:18:22.230A card like this would probably not be able to be released with the old classic ongoing Zabu, because you'd guarantee a three power three cost.
00:18:22.230 -->
00:18:22.559Sorry.
00:18:22.940 -->
00:18:34.299But yeah, like this card is really interesting and it's, it's, it's also weird because we need to talk about Luke Cage, obviously, because Luke Cage as this catchall for affliction, it starts to feel a little awkward in weeks like this.
00:18:34.714 -->
00:18:56.454Where it's like, with Diamondback, people just run Luke Cage, they just take whatever deck they're playing, and they just cut a card and add Luke Cage, and they just continue playing, and it completely douses the effect of every new card that's coming out with Affliction, and Laufey's gonna be the same way, and it makes me wonder though, there also is a synergy though, because, You could play on top of your cards, let's say Laufey is you know, gets hit by Zabu, he's a three cost.
00:18:56.535 -->
00:19:06.154You can play him on top of your cards, steal the power from your own cards, and then also play Luke Cage, and like, top your cards back up to standard, and Laufey would have stolen the power, right?
00:19:06.154 -->
00:19:15.474So, I guess that's a cool interaction, but like, Luke Cage occupies this very weird space in this game that like, I, it must weigh on Glenn's conscience when releasing new cards.
00:19:15.545 -->
00:19:20.954I don't think he's as bad, I mean like, We always say, well, you can just play Shang Chi, you can just play Luke Cage.
00:19:20.954 -->
00:19:22.755But the reality is people don't.
00:19:22.785 -->
00:19:26.384I mean, like, there's only 12 cards, people are not taking that in there.
00:19:26.644 -->
00:19:30.075And it doesn't happen a lot where it's like, I have a surfer deck, I'm gonna throw in Cage in there.
00:19:30.505 -->
00:19:33.434Sometimes, but I, yes and no.
00:19:33.434 -->
00:19:35.365I think, you know, obviously release valves are important.
00:19:35.365 -->
00:19:36.944And that's what makes some of these, like, overpowered.
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00:19:40.555To your point, I think it's important to address, Luke Cage does have synergy with him.
00:19:41.444 -->
00:19:42.144Pretty good.
00:19:42.154 -->
00:19:45.599I mean, you can get Laufey here to crazy numbers.
00:19:45.740 -->
00:19:47.039You have to play Luke cage.
00:19:47.039 -->
00:19:47.329Second.
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00:19:48.200That's the most important thing.
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00:19:52.509If Luke is on the board first, you're not able to steal that power from your own cards in the first place.
00:19:52.950 -->
00:19:56.720So that is some important consideration there.
00:19:57.079 -->
00:20:00.009Luke does want to be played with the majority of the cards as well.
00:20:00.920 -->
00:20:03.460For the most part, that are going to synergize with him.
00:20:03.480 -->
00:20:05.029So you also have that synergy.
00:20:05.529 -->
00:20:08.819But this is, I've got a secret sauce that people aren't thinking about.
00:20:09.339 -->
00:20:09.930With this guy.
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00:20:11.049So I have him at three and a half.
00:20:11.109 -->
00:20:15.099But this, the, I would put him at a four if this deck works out.
00:20:15.960 -->
00:20:17.680Can you even take a guess what I'm going to say?
00:20:18.180 -->
00:20:19.500No, I have no idea.
00:20:19.789 -->
00:20:20.769I'm like trying to think.
00:20:20.809 -->
00:20:21.380I'm proud of this.
00:20:21.880 -->
00:20:25.279So I think there's a shot a shot.
00:20:25.609 -->
00:20:29.140Okay, dude, I even forgot where this guy is because he's so
00:20:29.410 -->
00:20:30.630he's trying to find Agatha.
00:20:31.079 -->
00:20:31.710Oh, nevermind.
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00:20:32.440Annihilist.
00:20:32.940 -->
00:20:33.700Oh, this is a cook.
00:20:33.720 -->
00:20:34.500I like this.
00:20:34.609 -->
00:20:40.920So you can steal from your own rocks or zero power cards or whatever on your side.
00:20:41.464 -->
00:20:45.815Make them in the Annihilus frame, or one po right, anything, right?
00:20:45.914 -->
00:20:50.144You can make it work where Annihilus already wants to be with some of these kind of weird decks.
00:20:50.315 -->
00:20:52.625You could also like, let's say you have the Void down.
00:20:52.825 -->
00:20:56.704You know, you could play, you know, him to steal even more, and then send those over.
00:20:57.015 -->
00:21:04.265I think there's some cool synergy for a card that has been virtually gone, Viper got her buff.
00:21:05.255 -->
00:21:12.795There's some synergy here that could work with a four or five play to get the maximum results out of Laufey.
00:21:13.295 -->
00:21:13.805I like this.
00:21:13.805 -->
00:21:15.595This is a really cool call and you're right.
00:21:15.595 -->
00:21:21.065Because in my notes here, I have like junk cards, like debris and the goblins will like Laufey as well.
00:21:21.285 -->
00:21:23.615And those are things that work really well with Annihilus, right?
00:21:23.625 -->
00:21:25.884Then you can even have, I don't know, you could cope with Selene.
00:21:26.394 -->
00:21:27.744You could even think about.
00:21:28.339 -->
00:21:31.500This is neat, because let's say you have like rocks there and stuff like that.
00:21:31.700 -->
00:21:42.349You can play Laufey on the rocks, you can Annihilus, and then you could consider like, if Laufey's sitting there, you could even, hmm I don't know if he'd ever be worth hitting with Cersei though.
00:21:42.420 -->
00:21:43.980I was just thinking, would you ever want to hit him with Cersei?
00:21:44.160 -->
00:21:46.880Probably not, because once you steal the energy, I think his stats are high enough, right?
00:21:46.920 -->
00:21:47.029No,
00:21:47.029 -->
00:21:48.789but you could have Cersei in that build, right?
00:21:48.789 -->
00:21:54.085Because then you have that either or thing that you do with the Void sometimes, and Void just got Sentry Void just got a little buff up too.
00:21:54.085 -->
00:21:57.295Like, I, honestly, I think this whole little picture might be able to come together.
00:21:57.464 -->
00:22:01.505It, there's a, there's a shot that it can work all together.
00:22:01.894 -->
00:22:02.585And think about it, man.
00:22:02.595 -->
00:22:06.724Stealing the power from your opponent, gaining the power on your side, then sending them over.
00:22:06.964 -->
00:22:09.884That's a obvious lane winning play, right?
00:22:09.994 -->
00:22:11.085It's also on curve.
00:22:11.555 -->
00:22:15.785Because on turn three you Debris, turn four you Laufey, or you Sentry, turn five you Annihilus.
00:22:15.835 -->
00:22:16.125Yep.
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00:22:18.315I, I, I think that, that's awesome.
00:22:18.394 -->
00:22:18.934Thank you, man.
00:22:19.174 -->
00:22:24.875My, my thing is, Is I feel like that is what can make him up to a four and why he's probably my favorite.
00:22:25.545 -->
00:22:29.065But I have one other too and I, this one's a bit more obvious than Annihilus.
00:22:29.855 -->
00:22:34.134But I feel like two, you know, I don't even need to pull up the card I was going to pull up.
00:22:34.134 -->
00:22:35.105I'll pull up another one here.
00:22:35.545 -->
00:22:40.134I think that this could be a really good thing for High Evo.
00:22:40.464 -->
00:22:43.404I, the way that he's played with Abomination makes me excited.
00:22:43.674 -->
00:22:49.325Because of that Affliction style all at once.
00:22:49.825 -->
00:22:52.765Feels like he should be a good addition to that as well.
00:22:53.265 -->
00:22:57.184You know what you just really reminded me of that the thing is a four six
00:22:57.224 -->
00:22:57.884exactly
00:22:58.255 -->
00:22:59.484how oh my god Yeah,
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00:23:00.674it is a what are
00:23:00.674 -->
00:23:01.174we doing?
00:23:01.414 -->
00:23:02.085I know dude.
00:23:02.095 -->
00:23:06.025It's so funny, man I was actually so we just got that tremendous fantastic for trailer.
00:23:06.025 -->
00:23:06.535Don't know how we did.
00:23:06.535 -->
00:23:07.144Did you see that?
00:23:07.144 -->
00:23:08.265Please tell me so I watched
00:23:08.265 -->
00:23:12.634it I watched it cuz my kids watched it too and they thought it was they have no idea who the face is so good
00:23:13.555 -->
00:23:23.994Well, I mean as they shown it, I mean, there's only two movies that really I mean, the Fantastic Four has been done dirty for the past two decades, and man, I don't, I've got high expectations, dude.
00:23:24.025 -->
00:23:29.755The way the CGI was on the thing, they nailed the thing's personality down so well on that, and Looks awesome, yeah.
00:23:29.765 -->
00:23:32.115Oh, the era, I think, I'm, I'm pumped for it, man.
00:23:32.154 -->
00:23:32.894Really, I am.
00:23:33.055 -->
00:23:58.055And Galactus, you know what's cool about this, too, that people don't realize, is I'm pretty sure this is a separate world than the 616 MCU world, so I think Galactus is gonna, sorry, I gotta bleep both of those out on the podcast, I think he's going to eat, I think he's gonna eat the world, man, he's gonna be the world eater, I think we might see Galactus, you know, cause typically it's like Galactus shows up and we're like, oh no, he's not gonna do the thing he does, he can't do that, right?
00:23:58.115 -->
00:23:59.019What if he did?
00:23:59.529 -->
00:24:00.460What if you just ate what I'm
00:24:00.470 -->
00:24:01.170hoping for?
00:24:01.750 -->
00:24:03.420I'm hoping for a Silver Surfer cameo.
00:24:03.710 -->
00:24:04.680The Herald of Galactus.
00:24:04.690 -->
00:24:05.400Silver would be there.
00:24:05.460 -->
00:24:05.890Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:05.890 -->
00:24:06.950I think, I think Surfer's in.
00:24:07.099 -->
00:24:08.390In fact, people speculated.
00:24:08.579 -->
00:24:08.619Really?
00:24:08.789 -->
00:24:09.000You know this?
00:24:09.000 -->
00:24:09.690Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:09.690 -->
00:24:10.589Well, the actors announced.
00:24:10.599 -->
00:24:15.849So, what I think is What I think is there's a, a part of the trailer where Human Torch is going through the city.
00:24:15.980 -->
00:24:17.519Like doing his little flame on.
00:24:17.799 -->
00:24:19.309And he's chasing something it looks like.
00:24:19.599 -->
00:24:21.480People think that they rendered out the Surfer.
00:24:21.884 -->
00:24:30.305So like he's, he's, he's chasing the surfer, but they rented cause they do that in trailers to kind of, you know, keep things you know, behind the curtain or whatever for the first bit.
00:24:30.674 -->
00:24:32.674But yeah, I do think the Herald will be there.
00:24:32.835 -->
00:24:36.825But what if, what if Galactus just takes a bite of this world like he's eating like a, like a Reese's?
00:24:36.825 -->
00:24:38.615Just, right out of it, like an apple.
00:24:38.644 -->
00:24:40.305I like how you went Reese's, not apple.
00:24:40.444 -->
00:24:42.480But honestly, he seemed kind of small.
00:24:42.480 -->
00:24:44.005His shadow seemed kind of small.
00:24:44.384 -->
00:24:48.285So Galactus can be any size, not any size, but he doesn't have to just be giant.
00:24:48.880 -->
00:24:51.630That's not, like, he could be multiple sizes.
00:24:51.650 -->
00:24:54.500Maybe we get Squirrel Girl coming in to save the day.
00:24:54.539 -->
00:24:55.000Who knows?
00:24:55.519 -->
00:24:55.829Who knows?
00:24:55.829 -->
00:24:56.339We'd love that.
00:24:56.339 -->
00:24:58.269Squirrel Girl's lore is ridiculous.
00:24:58.269 -->
00:24:59.140The cameo would be awesome.
00:24:59.180 -->
00:25:00.460Like, I love it so much.
00:25:00.579 -->
00:25:02.650And also I actually just love Squirrel Girl.
00:25:02.730 -->
00:25:05.119I just, I can't get over how awesome her lore is.
00:25:05.160 -->
00:25:06.269I just hope they, I just
00:25:06.269 -->
00:25:08.109hope they do the F4 the right way.
00:25:08.140 -->
00:25:10.569Like, people have so much love for the new heroes.
00:25:10.609 -->
00:25:13.559And, like, you know, you look at the thing and it's like, who cares?
00:25:13.569 -->
00:25:15.630Like, we have the Hulk, but the thing is such a cool character.
00:25:15.630 -->
00:25:26.305And so it's Being able to bring all their faults to, to light and then like the pros and the cons and really the, you know, obviously the first family feel and I'm a sucker for like old time with future tech.
00:25:26.315 -->
00:25:30.005I think it's such a cool era to cover and so fantastic for doing that.
00:25:30.005 -->
00:25:31.105It is awesome.
00:25:31.555 -->
00:25:32.174Can't wait.
00:25:32.555 -->
00:25:37.065Also, I also love to see that they're you know, obviously in the MC world eventually that we know and love.
00:25:37.484 -->
00:25:40.075Council of reads if you guys know a lot of cool stuff coming.
00:25:40.095 -->
00:25:44.694Anyway, things sucks at Marvel snap That's where we got From all this you have something to say
00:25:44.805 -->
00:25:45.134one thing.
00:25:45.134 -->
00:25:47.265I will say about the movie though That's really exciting too.
00:25:47.265 -->
00:25:50.654And I try to celebrate this with my kids I was showing my kids and like they weren't as impressed.
00:25:51.704 -->
00:25:56.184It's for anyone that has kids I often talk about what the superpowers are of the hero.
00:25:56.184 -->
00:26:00.984So i'll ask my like my kids I'll say what's what's iron man's superpower and they'll say he can fly.
00:26:00.984 -->
00:26:01.755He's got his suit.
00:26:01.765 -->
00:26:02.535He can shoot blasts.
00:26:02.535 -->
00:26:05.609I'm like no He's smart He studied at school.
00:26:05.609 -->
00:26:06.299He's a genius.
00:26:06.430 -->
00:26:07.789What's Thanos superpower?
00:26:07.960 -->
00:26:10.859You might not realize that he also has genius level intellect.
00:26:11.289 -->
00:26:11.599What's Mr.
00:26:11.599 -->
00:26:12.559Fantas Mr.
00:26:12.569 -->
00:26:13.730Fantastic's superpower, right?
00:26:13.869 -->
00:26:17.019I like talking about how, like, intelligence is a superpower.
00:26:17.250 -->
00:26:19.410And so, like, that's just something I lean into with my kids.
00:26:19.410 -->
00:26:20.250I just thought I'd share that.
00:26:20.309 -->
00:26:20.779I love that.
00:26:20.799 -->
00:26:21.960I'm always like, I'm the opposite.
00:26:21.990 -->
00:26:24.130I'm like, Hulk's big and strong, right, son?
00:26:24.960 -->
00:26:26.640I should probably talk about the brain part more.
00:26:26.859 -->
00:26:28.599He's two, you know, I just go with the big stuff for now.
00:26:28.599 -->
00:26:35.835But yeah, it is cool, man, that a lot of the really the biggest baddest heroes are just the smart ones man, like the super smart ones you know, dr.
00:26:35.835 -->
00:26:37.914Strange even but anyway, thing sucks.
00:26:38.375 -->
00:26:50.575Not a great hero I think laufey really even highlights that even more You now have a four six that wants to be in high evo probably more than he does But I think that the Abomination build does have a place, and, and I'm excited.
00:26:50.575 -->
00:27:02.095So I, I think this guy, there's more there than that meets the, the eye at first, and potentially Laufey would be the first one that I recommend, not, not TTR, but Laufey would be the first one I recommend to go for.
00:27:02.234 -->
00:27:03.345Can I just, can I say something?
00:27:03.345 -->
00:27:04.454We, we haven't said in a long time.
00:27:04.625 -->
00:27:04.835Yep.
00:27:05.144 -->
00:27:08.585If Laufey is good for Abomination, Moon Girl, double up.
00:27:08.684 -->
00:27:09.095Let's go.
00:27:09.565 -->
00:27:10.005There we go.
00:27:10.045 -->
00:27:10.265Got it.
00:27:10.265 -->
00:27:10.984Hey, thank you.
00:27:11.005 -->
00:27:11.674I appreciate that.
00:27:11.674 -->
00:27:12.994I, I appreciate you looking out for that.
00:27:13.369 -->
00:27:14.744Alright, next up we have Gorgon.
00:27:14.744 -->
00:27:16.940Gorgon, Gorgon, guys.
00:27:16.950 -->
00:27:22.480He is a 2 cost 3 power card, and he is interesting as his ongoing effect.
00:27:22.670 -->
00:27:26.740Your opponent's cards that didn't start in their deck cost 1 more.
00:27:27.359 -->
00:27:33.299And I feel like this guy's coming out a little bit late, a little bit on the late side over here, but clearly we've got the Airsham counter.
00:27:33.585 -->
00:27:50.055The victoria hand counter the dare I say it agent calls counter take a moment take a take a moment of silence and I also think gorgon in the future will be really good for a draft mode because cards that can create cards Are very strong in draft mode.
00:27:50.375 -->
00:27:56.535And he's kind of a location counter But like we talked about with what was that loser's name cobra?
00:27:57.035 -->
00:28:03.075Is there a spot is there a spot for gorgon in these decks right like to me?
00:28:03.575 -->
00:28:09.734Because of Airsham and the reign of Airsham dying down, this card feels like Mobius and Mobius.
00:28:10.494 -->
00:28:11.505When will you put him in a deck?
00:28:12.494 -->
00:28:12.734Yep.
00:28:12.755 -->
00:28:13.325Exactly.
00:28:13.384 -->
00:28:15.075He's not a great release valve.
00:28:15.154 -->
00:28:17.255I actually don't think he acts as a good release valve.
00:28:17.255 -->
00:28:18.414I think he can be used offensively.
00:28:18.414 -->
00:28:19.934We'll discuss that momentarily.
00:28:20.224 -->
00:28:30.444I just, before I get into that though, I want to say that I really hope I know this will never happen, but I just want to throw this hope out there that we could get a variant that's a Goron from.
00:28:30.799 -->
00:28:34.990Legend of Zelda, because every time I hear Gorgon, I think about Gorons.
00:28:35.259 -->
00:28:38.279And so, I don't know why, you know those big rock dudes, the fire rock dudes?
00:28:38.279 -->
00:28:38.980Of course I do,
00:28:38.980 -->
00:28:39.259of course I do.
00:28:39.259 -->
00:28:39.599I love
00:28:39.599 -->
00:28:40.160those dudes.
00:28:40.289 -->
00:28:42.769Yeah, I love to see a variant of that if Nintendo will allow.
00:28:42.779 -->
00:28:46.240Very, you know, non litigious you know, company Nintendo.
00:28:46.339 -->
00:28:47.579Loves fanfic.
00:28:47.579 -->
00:28:47.849Yeah, love.
00:28:48.565 -->
00:28:49.825Definitely doesn't do DMCA.
00:28:50.085 -->
00:28:53.634We'll let you use their IP at willy nilly, however you want, Marvel.
00:28:53.664 -->
00:28:54.265No worries.
00:28:54.424 -->
00:28:55.984But yeah, I think you're right, dude.
00:28:55.984 -->
00:28:58.184I don't think you'll use this card defensively.
00:28:58.184 -->
00:28:59.724I think it's purely going to be used offensively.
00:28:59.884 -->
00:29:06.204Side note on this, I used to talk about both Star Wars and Marvel, if they ever made like a Call of Duty or like a Overwatch style game, it would do good.
00:29:06.204 -->
00:29:07.005Rivals came out.
00:29:07.305 -->
00:29:08.365And it's not surprising, right?
00:29:08.365 -->
00:29:09.585It's a lot, it's a big undertaking.
00:29:10.055 -->
00:29:13.835Bro, if nintendo made a card game like snap it would go bonkers.
00:29:13.855 -->
00:29:17.664I know they have pokemon What no i'm talking like what you just said zelda.
00:29:17.684 -->
00:29:18.654It's like super smash right?
00:29:18.704 -->
00:29:24.615Everything under it is under that umbrella Dude, it would be, that game would be a money maker, man.
00:29:24.734 -->
00:29:25.335Like, imagine using Like, Lord
00:29:25.335 -->
00:29:26.565Kanna, but Nintendo.
00:29:26.765 -->
00:29:31.545Yeah, imagine using the guy, the Goron, that does the dance from the Ocarina.
00:29:31.575 -->
00:29:31.785Yeah.
00:29:31.845 -->
00:29:32.505Oh, man.
00:29:32.634 -->
00:29:33.615I would love that, man.
00:29:33.805 -->
00:29:34.674I forgot that And then, like, the
00:29:34.674 -->
00:29:37.704spell cards are songs, and so you can, like, play the Song of Storms.
00:29:37.744 -->
00:29:40.115I still have those songs built in my memory, man.
00:29:40.134 -->
00:29:42.515Just built right into my It's one in my head
00:29:42.515 -->
00:29:42.825right now.
00:29:42.984 -->
00:29:43.875Oh man, all of them.
00:29:44.015 -->
00:29:44.384All of them.
00:29:44.384 -->
00:29:45.404I could, I could name most of them.
00:29:45.414 -->
00:29:45.984Even some of them.
00:29:45.994 -->
00:29:46.255I like
00:29:46.255 -->
00:29:47.565the accordion sound before.
00:29:47.565 -->
00:29:49.954All the guys in like the little, what's it called?
00:29:49.954 -->
00:29:51.115Yeah.
00:29:51.115 -->
00:29:51.275Yeah.
00:29:51.275 -->
00:29:52.434He's just pissed off the world.
00:29:52.434 -->
00:29:52.484He has
00:29:52.484 -->
00:29:52.525the
00:29:52.525 -->
00:29:53.065accordion?
00:29:53.194 -->
00:29:53.535Yeah.
00:29:53.535 -->
00:29:56.255And then you go in the past, you go in the future and he's like even more mad.
00:29:56.255 -->
00:29:58.484You're like, dude, this guy just never, he never chills.
00:29:58.494 -->
00:30:00.535He never, he just never.
00:30:01.914 -->
00:30:02.045It's
00:30:02.045 -->
00:30:02.515a good game.
00:30:02.575 -->
00:30:03.484I remember spending
00:30:03.484 -->
00:30:05.404like days trying to get the, what was it called?
00:30:05.404 -->
00:30:06.505The wedding couple mask.
00:30:06.755 -->
00:30:07.144Oh yeah.
00:30:07.194 -->
00:30:08.865Oh, the the Pikachu mask.
00:30:09.115 -->
00:30:09.644Essentially.
00:30:09.795 -->
00:30:10.595It looks like a Pikachu.
00:30:10.974 -->
00:30:11.434The yellow one.
00:30:11.444 -->
00:30:11.775Yeah.
00:30:11.775 -->
00:30:12.025Yeah,
00:30:12.105 -->
00:30:12.994yeah, absolutely.
00:30:13.015 -->
00:30:14.234But I took forever.
00:30:14.484 -->
00:30:15.065It sucked.
00:30:15.065 -->
00:30:15.914You had to like go through like
00:30:15.914 -->
00:30:17.884a, like a, this is super off topic.
00:30:17.884 -->
00:30:21.295I think Zelda games though are like meant the most to me in my childhood.
00:30:21.785 -->
00:30:22.244Almost.
00:30:22.275 -->
00:30:25.384I think they were some of the best games to me growing up.
00:30:25.494 -->
00:30:27.045Like Ocarina of Majora's Mask.
00:30:27.595 -->
00:30:29.805Link to the past, all of it incredible.
00:30:29.805 -->
00:30:31.265And I know the lore really well too.
00:30:31.265 -->
00:30:33.164Like it's like, it's a very cool universe.
00:30:33.174 -->
00:30:36.125It's probably like, Oh man, you got me going anyway.
00:30:36.184 -->
00:30:36.484Okay.
00:30:36.515 -->
00:30:37.105Should we, should we,
00:30:37.184 -->
00:30:42.674everyone our age remembers hitting the water temple for the first time and being like stressed out, you know, remember the water temple?
00:30:42.674 -->
00:30:44.775Do I remember the water temple?
00:30:44.775 -->
00:30:51.904I remember being a kid before strategy books were out and you had to give Jabu Jabu a fish to go in his belly as like young Link.
00:30:51.914 -->
00:30:53.654And I, I, it, that took me like.
00:30:54.240 -->
00:31:05.569Two weeks to figure out like you had to hear about it through a neighbor through a kid of a neighbor and you're like Oh, that's how like that was the golden age that will never get again a video games where there you couldn't go online and look Stuff up.
00:31:06.549 -->
00:31:15.720Yeah, like literally the the schoolyard is like where you'd find out the legitimate strategies to figuring out the water temple So
00:31:15.720 -->
00:31:15.930good.
00:31:16.109 -->
00:31:16.380All right.
00:31:16.380 -->
00:31:19.490Yeah, so that was a huge derail on Gorgon and Goron.
00:31:19.519 -->
00:31:32.859But yes, so do I think he's coming out late I think he's like Mobius and Mobius The only thing that I see this guy being cool for is you play him down and then you play Black Widow, and you send over the Widows.
00:31:32.910 -->
00:31:34.750I think we talked about that like way long ago.
00:31:35.109 -->
00:31:38.480That's the only time where I think like, okay, but I still think that's probably gimmicky.
00:31:39.289 -->
00:31:45.269I was thinking about what I'm going to do for Gorgon in terms of a deck, and there used to be an attempt.
00:31:45.559 -->
00:31:52.710To do Darkhawk and Ronin together, because you almost kind of did the same thing, but they were a little bit mutually exclusive from one another.
00:31:52.710 -->
00:31:55.130But Gorgon might just be a card that brings it together.
00:31:55.130 -->
00:31:59.930Because if you think about it, the rocks will be more expensive, although they don't generally play the rocks anyway.
00:32:00.289 -->
00:32:01.890But you got Master Mold, right?
00:32:01.890 -->
00:32:03.420Those Sentinels become more expensive.
00:32:03.650 -->
00:32:05.420The Widow's Bite becomes more expensive.
00:32:05.420 -->
00:32:09.190And if they're not drawing things, they're also helping the Darkhawk to some degree.
00:32:09.775 -->
00:32:19.285So, like, there's a chance that Korg, Rockslide, Master Mold Black Widow, Gorgon, and then, like, literally the Ronin shell with Darkhawk might be legit.
00:32:19.295 -->
00:32:21.285The deck, like, we're almost done, the deck right there.
00:32:21.454 -->
00:32:32.295Like, the deck kind of writes itself, and I would be very interested to see how that works, because it has the offensive capability, and then as a kind of side hustle, you get the defensive side, too, against the Arishems and everything else.
00:32:32.295 -->
00:32:33.835So, that's kind of where I'm going to lean with it.
00:32:33.894 -->
00:32:41.880There's a shot, yeah, I thought about Master Molds here, I was like, interesting, you know, at least At least Mastermold has some new use case of a card I haven't played in way too long.
00:32:42.220 -->
00:32:45.390But so you said there was one card better than Laufey.
00:32:45.420 -->
00:32:46.160Was it this guy
00:32:46.490 -->
00:32:46.920this one?
00:32:46.920 -->
00:33:08.565yeah, I think the reason why is because I'm trying to figure out a like Ronin Darkhawk deck with Moonstone where you could basically like either Ronin or Darkhawk on turn five With Mystique on turn six and if you have Moonstone down on four you can like double dip on the effects I think that could be potentially pretty interesting.
00:33:08.845 -->
00:33:10.815I'm trying to figure out like what those lines look like.
00:33:10.815 -->
00:33:12.924It's still, I'm still trying to like figure it out again.
00:33:12.934 -->
00:33:16.085We, we got hit with these cards right off the, by surprise here.
00:33:16.085 -->
00:33:16.384Right.
00:33:16.734 -->
00:33:21.305But like, I do think that like this potentially has more offensive capabilities than Laufey is.
00:33:21.335 -->
00:33:24.984I just see it having more meta relevance, but not by a long shot.
00:33:24.984 -->
00:33:26.954Like, I still think it's like a three and a half four star card.
00:33:27.184 -->
00:33:29.515I just like it ever so slightly more than Laufey.
00:33:29.605 -->
00:33:35.984The only other thing I thought about that you could do with him is you could You could play Spectrum and Moonstone.
00:33:36.005 -->
00:33:39.744So, Moonstone, you double it up even more, so you like, you make it even worse for them.
00:33:39.944 -->
00:33:41.914But then also mainly Spectrum.
00:33:41.914 -->
00:33:42.904It's a 2 body.
00:33:43.095 -->
00:33:44.065I like the 2 body.
00:33:44.075 -->
00:33:44.964It has a 3 on it.
00:33:45.204 -->
00:33:46.444And it's kind of what you're saying.
00:33:46.454 -->
00:33:48.174You're able to have the tech card of it.
00:33:48.674 -->
00:34:01.964And then you're able to, like, I know for sure if Triple M, Mobius and Mobius was a 2, you would play Spectrum just because you're getting You're just, you're getting now that two body for a little bit extra that feels pretty good and then you have the divvy.
00:34:02.174 -->
00:34:05.025You know, that to me feels like it has a shot as well.
00:34:05.904 -->
00:34:10.655One thing I'll mention though, I was just thinking about this because I literally just did like a, like a weekly deck guide.
00:34:11.255 -->
00:34:14.855And Erishim's not really caring about multiple cards per turn right now.
00:34:15.284 -->
00:34:23.664Like, I wonder how much this affects Erishim, because Erishim's playing Doom 2099 packages right now, where it just wants to play one big card after another, and that's kind of the top shell of Erishim.
00:34:23.965 -->
00:34:26.034So it might not even really counter that all that much.
00:34:26.065 -->
00:34:26.824It'll slow it down.
00:34:26.835 -->
00:34:29.614So might want to lead into it offensively more than defensively for sure.
00:34:29.695 -->
00:34:38.809Yeah, it might slow it down a little bit, but it I think what it does, too, is it allows them to occupy that space more creatively, so they can make more cards that do stuff like Iron Patriot did.
00:34:39.320 -->
00:34:48.945And, obviously, this is a big Iron Patriot counter kind of, but, like, it's you know, those effects are so cool, but they've needed something to release Valve in a little bit, and so now we've got that even more so.
00:34:49.295 -->
00:34:53.045Obviously, Victoria Hand is going to help him, but it's cool to slow that engine down.
00:34:53.735 -->
00:34:57.215Last but not least, this card has been here since the beginning of Snap.
00:34:57.894 -->
00:34:59.855Uncle Ben has been around in the datamines.
00:35:00.465 -->
00:35:03.795And Uncle Ben is finally releasing into the game.
00:35:03.934 -->
00:35:06.715He's a 1 cost, a 2 power card.
00:35:07.054 -->
00:35:14.784Alex, on reveal, when this card is destroyed, replace it with Spider Man.
00:35:15.284 -->
00:35:15.844Core went out.
00:35:16.324 -->
00:35:20.355Core went out for Uncle Ben, getting replaced by Spider Man, a 2 4.
00:35:20.835 -->
00:35:25.914Now at the time, when the game came out, Spider Man was a 5 2 or something like that, a 5 3.
00:35:25.914 -->
00:35:30.244I know, I know, Alex is taking a, a full minute to shed a tear for Uncle Ben.
00:35:30.505 -->
00:35:34.465It's only moments from now until we get an Aunt May, that blows up from Green Goblin.
00:35:34.954 -->
00:35:36.074Yeah, I mean, hey, spoilers?
00:35:38.364 -->
00:35:40.235Dude, that was on like the old, oh.
00:35:40.735 -->
00:35:45.045Yeah, I'm just thinking of the one where I was thinking of the Tobey Maguire one, man.
00:35:45.585 -->
00:35:47.355Don't tell them about the Star Wars one.
00:35:47.454 -->
00:35:49.574That one always gets people every single time.
00:35:50.014 -->
00:35:50.815The Darth Vader thing?
00:35:50.835 -->
00:35:51.735We can't talk about it.
00:35:52.175 -->
00:35:54.034We already had, we had enough user complaints.
00:35:54.125 -->
00:35:55.474They got mad at us enough.
00:35:55.585 -->
00:35:56.114Listen here.
00:35:56.614 -->
00:36:03.755Uncle Ben is, in my opinion, just a worse not a worse, I guess he's just a Bucky Barnes.
00:36:04.255 -->
00:36:08.295Again, that Bucky's not being played, Winter Soldier's not being played unless you play in Rivals.
00:36:08.795 -->
00:36:12.315I feel like, once upon a time, this card was okay.
00:36:12.885 -->
00:36:15.485If you had Spider Man to what he was at a 5 cost.
00:36:15.945 -->
00:36:17.085Now, what are we doing?
00:36:17.585 -->
00:36:20.114I think they sat down, they're like, alright, we got Uncle Ben.
00:36:20.275 -->
00:36:22.664He was literally datamined in the beta.
00:36:22.704 -->
00:36:24.514Let's, for memes, not change him.
00:36:24.614 -->
00:36:26.005And yes, he's worse than Uatu.
00:36:26.434 -->
00:36:28.704Yeah, let's make him a free card.
00:36:28.804 -->
00:36:35.224We said new era, they told us to pull out all the stops, it's time to release the Kraken, Uncle Ben.
00:36:35.224 -->
00:36:45.844So the only coping I did with this is theoretically, theoretically, and even now it doesn't work because it's not even a 3 cost anymore, but what if you had like Silver Surfer with like Nova Killmonger?
00:36:46.090 -->
00:36:49.349And you could blow it up and you'd get the Spider Man down with the silver surfer.
00:36:49.349 -->
00:36:51.860That could have been cool, but that doesn't even work anymore.
00:36:52.010 -->
00:36:53.460So like, what are we even doing?
00:36:53.889 -->
00:36:58.440There is a new card that's been datamined called fire here that brings back a destroyed card when it's moved.
00:36:59.070 -->
00:37:02.380So then you could double proc on uncle Ben, but why the hell would you do that?
00:37:02.409 -->
00:37:04.550So like, I think this is, is this a zero star card?
00:37:04.590 -->
00:37:06.130Is this a card that you never, ever play?
00:37:06.179 -->
00:37:06.659Seriously?
00:37:06.710 -->
00:37:11.849I was also thinking like, it's not the first, but it's damn near close of one of the least relevant.
00:37:12.349 -->
00:37:20.449Things to come to the game this opens the floodgate to now hit like anything Marvel like almost all these cards We have they got superpowers.
00:37:20.780 -->
00:37:27.340They can do things right and then you got Uncle Ben like It's just to me.
00:37:27.940 -->
00:37:30.679It's hilarious that this guy's in here I hope there's a game
00:37:30.679 -->
00:37:30.980mode.
00:37:30.980 -->
00:37:33.050They're going to release like like who they're going to release.
00:37:33.050 -->
00:37:34.070You think there's a variant
00:37:34.280 -->
00:37:35.400that he's dead on the ground?
00:37:36.275 -->
00:37:37.429Oh, it's so savage.
00:37:37.750 -->
00:37:39.519I mean, I'd buy it.
00:37:40.019 -->
00:37:40.500Would you?
00:37:40.980 -->
00:37:44.619If you have like, okay, the Tobey Maguire, like holding him.
00:37:45.119 -->
00:37:45.880With great power.
00:37:45.949 -->
00:37:46.570You want to buy that?
00:37:46.929 -->
00:37:47.769Yeah, I have to
00:37:47.769 -->
00:37:48.070man.
00:37:48.070 -->
00:37:49.460He better say that when he dies.
00:37:49.510 -->
00:37:52.619Oh, I hope when he dies, he says that.
00:37:53.494 -->
00:37:54.510He has to though.
00:37:54.829 -->
00:37:58.039If they don't, I will, I will, I will make a video complaining.
00:37:58.159 -->
00:37:58.730I will like.
00:37:59.349 -->
00:38:00.340I'll be like, what are we doing?
00:38:01.079 -->
00:38:01.619What are we doing?
00:38:01.650 -->
00:38:05.849Alright, let's talk about quickly, guys, let me pull this up here.
00:38:06.349 -->
00:38:09.400I'm gonna put better stuff up for everybody else.
00:38:09.400 -->
00:38:10.260That's I just thinking
00:38:10.260 -->
00:38:15.179like in terms of like opening this up for more Marvel characters, like you're gonna get like Norman Ooz Osborne.
00:38:15.239 -->
00:38:15.420Oh yeah.
00:38:15.420 -->
00:38:16.454Secretary as a cart.
00:38:18.329 -->
00:38:20.909The guy in the bus next to Shung Chi in the bus scene.
00:38:21.159 -->
00:38:23.579Yeah, like it opens up a can of worms.
00:38:24.094 -->
00:38:32.355Alright, all of these cards, Alex, though, are going to be coming from Sanctum Showdown, a brand new game mode, temporary game mode.
00:38:32.394 -->
00:38:34.114I hate when they say game mode and it's like, temporary.
00:38:34.385 -->
00:38:40.235But, temporary game mode, that'll be coming to Snap, and I think it's pretty damn interesting.
00:38:40.465 -->
00:38:45.905We'll talk about the game mode in a second, but the most interesting thing to break down is the rewards that will come from it.
00:38:46.184 -->
00:38:57.730By far, the thing we have to highlight, the thing we have to talk about is You have the ability to get not 1, not 2, 4 series 4 or 5 cards just from playing this game mode.
00:38:58.230 -->
00:39:00.650This is something we've wanted for so long.
00:39:00.699 -->
00:39:04.539The chance to play the game and be rewarded back.
00:39:05.010 -->
00:39:16.130Put in the grind if you want the cards for free and you have the chance to get essentially 4 or 5 unowned, big bold word, unowned series 4 or 5 cards.
00:39:16.480 -->
00:39:17.559Bro, that's massive.
00:39:18.525 -->
00:39:30.954We've never seen anything with the unowned tag on it like that's crazy That's what like we were hoping the like random card on the series spotlight caches was always gonna be the unowned Would they have the technology cozy?
00:39:31.184 -->
00:39:31.864It's proof.
00:39:31.994 -->
00:39:32.804They can do it.
00:39:33.224 -->
00:39:33.494It's here.
00:39:33.525 -->
00:39:35.574We can do it Yeah, this is huge.
00:39:35.704 -->
00:39:45.949One thing worth mentioning though is just to like temper some expectations Glenn did make a comment where it's like He said, like, it's very unlikely you'd be able to, as a free to play player, unlock everything, right?
00:39:45.949 -->
00:39:51.980Like, I think they tried to give you as many options as possible, so you get to, like, pick your pick and choose what you want.
00:39:52.219 -->
00:39:53.989But, like, if you're like, I'm gonna get all three new cards.
00:39:54.010 -->
00:39:56.429I'm also gonna get four series four and five cards.
00:39:56.449 -->
00:39:59.000And I'm gonna get every single border, every single variant.
00:39:59.010 -->
00:40:00.420Like, I don't think that's actually possible.
00:40:00.420 -->
00:40:01.751Do we know if you can get the
00:40:01.751 -->
00:40:02.010cards?
00:40:02.010 -->
00:40:06.965Like, screw all the Borders and whatever but can you get the can you just get the cards you think
00:40:07.565 -->
00:40:14.014I don't want to misquote him But I believe he said it's unlikely But he'd be very happy if someone was able to
00:40:14.164 -->
00:40:15.375and what the hell are the scrolls?
00:40:15.375 -->
00:40:16.135Do we know what those are?
00:40:16.735 -->
00:40:17.614I have no idea.
00:40:17.675 -->
00:40:18.525I was hoping you knew.
00:40:18.655 -->
00:40:25.780No, I don't know I didn't do the enough research what I can't tell you though is there's a bunch of borders you could get werewolf by night jeff And Mr.
00:40:25.780 -->
00:40:30.449Sinister emotes that all look fantastic, Baron Zemo, Wong, and Dr.
00:40:30.449 -->
00:41:05.304Strange, obviously fittingly are going to be in there as well, so all cool rewards there, and then you can open a portal, it's half the cost to get a new card, by the way, then to get an unknown, about half the cost to get an unknown series 4 or 5 card is kind of what we know as of now, now if you want to know what the game mode is, we don't know a ton, but what we do know is, You are going to be getting points, one point per location, or two points if it's the Sanctum location, and your goal is to get, and this is every single turn, you're going to try to get 16 points in total, in total to win the you're going for 16 points in total to win the game.
00:41:05.644 -->
00:41:10.114And so what the snapping mechanic is, is it makes that Sanctum location worth more.
00:41:10.114 -->
00:41:19.695And so it's a pretty, it's definitely going to be way different strategy wise, like where to spread out your cards, when to double down to try to get that location you know, to get the most points from it.
00:41:20.014 -->
00:41:24.855And there should definitely be a pretty big twist to how the locations are going to play.
00:41:25.355 -->
00:41:29.364I was just thinking there's a chance that the scrolls are like the entry tickets, by the way.
00:41:29.485 -->
00:41:30.635Oh, 100 percent that's what those are.
00:41:30.655 -->
00:41:31.275You just know it.
00:41:31.275 -->
00:41:31.625Yeah, I was
00:41:31.625 -->
00:41:32.755just thinking about that while you were talking.
00:41:32.795 -->
00:41:36.534Yeah, there's a lot of rewards and what I really like about it, by the way, this Juice Jeff emote.
00:41:36.635 -->
00:41:46.184I feel like it was datamined like, oh, I've always wanted that Juice Jeff and I was so worried that I was going to be like Admittedly, I'm not a guy who finishes many albums.
00:41:46.224 -->
00:41:50.875I don't, I don't buy, I have not bought a variant and I have no idea.
00:41:51.184 -->
00:41:53.744And so like, I I'm really far behind on that on that note.
00:41:53.744 -->
00:41:57.434Secondary, please more 700 gold variant albums, please.
00:41:57.445 -->
00:41:58.614That you can unlock through progression.
00:41:58.614 -->
00:41:59.144That's exciting.
00:41:59.465 -->
00:42:00.925But yeah, like I'm actually really excited for that.
00:42:00.925 -->
00:42:02.474They are on the expensive side.
00:42:02.614 -->
00:42:04.744They're they're actually more expensive.
00:42:04.909 -->
00:42:09.110Then the opening a portal for the new cards, which is kind of crazy, but I'm gonna get that juice.
00:42:09.110 -->
00:42:09.320Jeff.
00:42:09.320 -->
00:42:10.815I don't care about Uncle Ben.
00:42:11.105 -->
00:42:11.456Screw Uncle Ben.
00:42:12.380 -->
00:42:12.619Crazy.
00:42:12.619 -->
00:42:12.710I know,
00:42:12.710 -->
00:42:13.010dude.
00:42:13.190 -->
00:42:13.579Right?
00:42:13.800 -->
00:42:17.659I already know, by the way I'm gonna get Uncle Ben first by opening this damp portal.
00:42:17.659 -->
00:42:20.054I'm not getting loud loudy, so later I can feel it.
00:42:20.650 -->
00:42:21.409But anyway, yeah.
00:42:21.590 -->
00:42:22.380What about the mechanics though?
00:42:22.380 -->
00:42:23.960You think the game mode sounds cool?
00:42:24.650 -->
00:42:25.590I think it sounds neat.
00:42:25.610 -->
00:42:31.820I I'm almost positive they're going to be banning juggernaut and debris because of the way the location stuff works.
00:42:31.820 -->
00:42:34.679And it's just like, there'll be mainstays in those decks.
00:42:34.690 -->
00:42:40.599Like juggernaut would be way too valuable in a game mode like this, where you have to win a single location to get extra points, but it does sound neat.
00:42:40.769 -->
00:42:43.440I liked that they're being creative with the way they're approaching the game.
00:42:43.440 -->
00:42:45.079And Yeah, no, this is good stuff.
00:42:45.099 -->
00:42:54.969And now what we're starting to see though is we're starting to see a build of all these different game modes where we have high voltage, which I honestly still like you have Deadpool's diner, which had way better rewards the second time around.
00:42:54.969 -->
00:42:56.460Did they iron some stuff out?
00:42:56.460 -->
00:42:58.570But I still think there's a lot of room for improvement there.
00:42:58.869 -->
00:43:01.130They're going to have this as well, where they're going to get a lot of feedback.
00:43:01.539 -->
00:43:02.420So I would hope.
00:43:02.699 -->
00:43:07.119That every single month, eventually we could have like a rotation of different limited time game modes.
00:43:07.329 -->
00:43:11.389I think that having a constant rotation of limited time game modes would be awesome, right?
00:43:11.530 -->
00:43:15.869Obviously I'm not a game dev, but once it's made, it's got to be able to go back to the well.
00:43:15.909 -->
00:43:17.820When they're not like Deadpool's diner, right?
00:43:17.820 -->
00:43:22.750Like if this one's a banger, man, it's like, that gives me so much hope because then you have.
00:43:23.039 -->
00:43:56.835High voltage, you have this one, and then you add in a couple more into that rotation, and then it's like, oh, cool, man, like, you're pumped for that new one to come out, good rewards to follow it, they now have the expectation set, though, that will, you know, the rewards have to match this, this is too good, you know, obviously not gonna have three new cards every single time, but this is really cool to have something like this coming out but either way, super cool, excited for it, lastly, we'll touch on card mastery not a ton, Broken down about this, but we have seen a couple things and essentially, you know, a couple things to highlight.
00:43:56.855 -->
00:44:00.224It is retroactive, so all the work you've done will level up your cards.
00:44:00.224 -->
00:44:02.824You'll unlock borders and flares and all this good stuff.
00:44:02.985 -->
00:44:05.065Or your favorite variants and cards, which is cool.
00:44:05.394 -->
00:44:31.090I think the coolest thing that I saw taken away is that there's a new, like, gold diamond flare if you've, like, mastered a card completely, which is what I've wanted for a long time, to show off, like, You know, I don't know how hard it is to get that, but if you're, like, a balance player to have all diamond, gold, these, what, that, to me, that's really cool, and hopefully that's something they bring to it all, and all of the backgrounds and the borders, they've done a good job.
00:44:31.139 -->
00:44:37.329They put a lot of care into it, and they know this is something we've been wanting, and it looks like they delivered pretty good in a few days here.
00:44:38.000 -->
00:44:40.170You got to give secondary credit where it's due.
00:44:40.190 -->
00:44:44.969This was a mode that they cut for like technical game dev reasons that I honestly would never understand.
00:44:45.420 -->
00:44:47.710And they, there was such pushback.
00:44:47.760 -->
00:44:53.699There was so much like love for what this game, this little addition to the game was supposed to be that they brought it back.
00:44:53.719 -->
00:44:54.329They're like, you know what?
00:44:54.695 -->
00:44:55.434We're going to sit down.
00:44:55.434 -->
00:44:56.105We're going to figure it out.
00:44:56.105 -->
00:44:57.275The players want it.
00:44:57.514 -->
00:44:59.775We already went through the pain of canceling it.
00:45:00.054 -->
00:45:00.335Right.
00:45:00.375 -->
00:45:01.375Let's bring it back.
00:45:01.375 -->
00:45:01.804Let's do it.
00:45:01.804 -->
00:45:02.074Right.
00:45:02.085 -->
00:45:08.135And so like, yeah, I'm sure a lot of actual like effort went into getting this mode, ready to rip, ready to go.
00:45:08.135 -->
00:45:08.945And they've done it.
00:45:08.965 -->
00:45:12.514And even if it like under delivers on first.
00:45:13.025 -->
00:45:36.385Kind of like first release like this is something you can add to constantly you can make easy adjustments to but I don't think they will I think that they've clearly put the effort in and I'm excited for it I really am because I think you mentioned before like in games like smite and heroes of the storm and Dota the more you play heroes you'd get like these level up things and like people you were against and on your team would see Like oh damn Like you've really played this character for 150 hours.
00:45:36.635 -->
00:45:38.324Like this, I got to take this guy seriously.
00:45:38.324 -->
00:45:38.925You know what I mean?
00:45:38.925 -->
00:45:41.014So yeah, I absolutely like that.
00:45:41.014 -->
00:45:48.735It I'm, I'm excited to see like where my, like she not stuff ends up like where, like, I'm just interested, like where your Colson's going to be.
00:45:48.784 -->
00:45:49.894Yeah, dude, exactly.
00:45:49.894 -->
00:45:54.125Whenever this first opens up, I'm excited to see kind of like the most played cards where they end up.
00:45:54.400 -->
00:46:03.800And yeah, even in rivals, man, when someone has a Lord icon, you're like, okay, respect, like even if it's a bad hero, if they have that, they know how to play them regardless.
00:46:03.800 -->
00:46:04.559They know how to play them.
00:46:04.559 -->
00:46:05.929And so there's that respect factor.
00:46:06.269 -->
00:46:07.860Love to see that come to Marvel snap.
00:46:08.150 -->
00:46:11.199So we've got a pretty packed week, man.
00:46:11.239 -->
00:46:12.519We got TTR coming.
00:46:12.530 -->
00:46:15.380We got the new game mode with three new cards there.
00:46:15.684 -->
00:46:19.264You guys have a chance to get up to four new cards you don't have in that game mode.
00:46:19.525 -->
00:46:24.545New emote, card mastery, it's a big one and a needed one for Marvel Snap.
00:46:24.554 -->
00:46:27.375But also what is needed is a big time series drop.
00:46:27.425 -->
00:46:27.835Cozy.
00:46:27.835 -->
00:46:29.844I got something really exciting to show you here today.
00:46:29.844 -->
00:46:30.735We talked about this.
00:46:31.204 -->
00:46:37.635I would say like a month ago on your side of the Snapchat and it took me a while to hunt this bad boy down, but I finally found it.
00:46:37.894 -->
00:46:40.795It is the dog meat.
00:46:41.034 -->
00:46:43.885Commander deck for for Magic the Gathering.
00:46:43.894 -->
00:46:47.335And I've been trying to chase this thing down forever and I couldn't find it.
00:46:47.655 -->
00:46:50.875Cause like, listen, I actually really liked playing commander and it was like, man.
00:46:51.405 -->
00:46:52.824I really want dog meat, dammit.
00:46:53.085 -->
00:46:53.875And I found it.
00:46:53.905 -->
00:46:54.844I finally found it.
00:46:54.864 -->
00:46:57.465So I'm excited to play some dog meat commander cozy.
00:46:57.465 -->
00:47:01.554Next time I'm in San Diego, we're at a PAX or wherever we might be together.
00:47:01.585 -->
00:47:03.144We got to pull up the commander decks and have a couple of games.
00:47:03.255 -->
00:47:06.625I'd be so fun to play commander, dude, like together for sure.
00:47:06.864 -->
00:47:07.175I know.
00:47:07.175 -->
00:47:10.514Like even when we were at a PAX last time being able to play like.
00:47:10.855 -->
00:47:15.474Some rando Star Wars game like it was just a blast like just playing with physical product again.
00:47:15.474 -->
00:47:18.244So Commander will be a good time.
00:47:18.485 -->
00:47:20.824Always in the hypothetical world that will never exist.
00:47:20.844 -->
00:47:28.295I always think about like living close to all the people like I love that are good friends and having like D& D nights and Commander nights.
00:47:28.355 -->
00:47:29.514Oh, it'd just be so fun, bud.
00:47:29.514 -->
00:47:31.769It's a, it's a world that doesn't exist, but it'd be cool.
00:47:32.559 -->
00:47:43.550I know, for me too, like, I actually don't have anybody to play these with, and like, even my wife, I, I try to, like, get her to play games with me and stuff like that, but she's so not interested that it's, like, it's hard to play, right?
00:47:43.809 -->
00:47:47.610It's funny, because they say that opposites attract, but my wife and I are, like, totally polar opposites.
00:47:47.619 -->
00:47:50.900She does not play video games at all, she does not play board games at all.
00:47:50.909 -->
00:47:51.190Right.
00:47:51.190 -->
00:47:54.579Like so it's funny cause like, I can't drag her out to like do these types of things.
00:47:54.590 -->
00:48:00.099I used to even go to Friday night, magic events and stuff like that, like in nearby kind of cities and stuff like that, but yeah.
00:48:00.099 -->
00:48:02.070So, I mean, PAX is a great spot for that.
00:48:02.079 -->
00:48:03.500Like, that's actually one of the reasons why I love it.
00:48:03.500 -->
00:48:09.699I actually fondly remember us learning how to play Star Wars at at PAX East there, and I even bought a Lorcana set that we were supposed to play.
00:48:09.699 -->
00:48:10.559We were so busy though.
00:48:10.559 -->
00:48:15.000We need to make time next time we have that opportunity to make sure that we play some games.
00:48:15.230 -->
00:48:15.840And you know what?
00:48:16.099 -->
00:48:17.570It's hot about making time cozy.
00:48:17.909 -->
00:48:21.300I hope you made time to try some Sam Wilson.
00:48:21.670 -->
00:48:24.679Sam Wilson was a season pass card that came out in a Marvel snap.
00:48:24.690 -->
00:48:27.280And I have to tell you, he's pretty damn good.
00:48:27.769 -->
00:48:28.789I gave him a four star.
00:48:28.789 -->
00:48:30.489You came in at three and a half to four stars.
00:48:30.699 -->
00:48:33.630And overall Sam Wilson is performing well.
00:48:33.639 -->
00:48:40.760Statistically, this is including so untapped based statistics, collection level 6, 000 and above ranks 70 to 100.
00:48:40.769 -->
00:48:42.039Cause unfortunately it's the first week.
00:48:42.039 -->
00:48:45.519So we have to include some boss, big bot based statistics, cubes.
00:48:45.664 -->
00:48:45.8850.
00:48:45.965 -->
00:48:48.60565 at a 60 percent win rate.
00:48:48.755 -->
00:48:50.704So he is doing very well.
00:48:50.994 -->
00:48:51.545What are your thoughts?
00:48:51.545 -->
00:48:51.715Cause
00:48:51.724 -->
00:48:53.735yeah, man, I liked him in the the ongoing bill.
00:48:53.735 -->
00:48:58.045I thought that was fun just to get the caps out there, be able to, to play.
00:48:58.795 -->
00:49:04.514I think the spectrum builds and stuff has always been cool, but being able to combine that even with iron lad and Moonstone and have.
00:49:04.860 -->
00:49:22.389What was just a really fun deck to play with but also have some crazy power start to build up, as we talked about with, you know Moonstone being able to give her the effect of not being able to be destroyed, like, just, there was a lot of cool things going on with it, and that was probably my favorite part, or place to do it.
00:49:22.389 -->
00:49:25.019I had a whole video ready, and then that's when my whole microphone thing went down.
00:49:25.340 -->
00:49:26.179But what about you, man?
00:49:26.679 -->
00:49:28.960Yeah, I thought he's been really interesting, really good.
00:49:28.960 -->
00:49:35.230And I thought that like here and there, like he doesn't feel as good as some of the other season pass cards we've come that have come in the past.
00:49:35.469 -->
00:49:37.570But he seems very, he still seems very good.
00:49:37.570 -->
00:49:39.849But we've had some like broken season pass cards.
00:49:40.000 -->
00:49:43.030He feels like as good as you're gonna get without the risk of nerfing.
00:49:43.059 -->
00:49:46.750Like I don't see this card being nerfed in any way, shape, or form, which is nice.
00:49:46.750 -->
00:49:48.849You get a little bit of reliability with your purchase.
00:49:48.849 -->
00:49:49.570'cause otherwise, if.
00:49:50.190 -->
00:49:55.239If you bought like Loki and you want it to play Loki, you can't even play Loki the way you purchased it, right?
00:49:55.269 -->
00:49:58.170Like it's a totally different card now, which still shatters my soul.
00:49:58.539 -->
00:50:05.670But With Captain America, Sam Wilson, I think you actually called something really interesting and I had seen no one talk about it.
00:50:06.349 -->
00:50:07.449It was called obsidian.
00:50:07.969 -->
00:50:12.340You had mentioned that the shield moving allowed for callups sitting to have a very natural place to fall.
00:50:12.480 -->
00:50:15.309Not only that it was guaranteeing at least callups sitting could go somewhere.
00:50:15.650 -->
00:50:22.789And so at a 52, a 62 percent win rate, sorry, we have a surter version of Sam Wilson out there.
00:50:23.050 -->
00:50:27.650Which is kind of interesting because Culpsitting is so naturally easy to play with Sam Wilson.
00:50:27.909 -->
00:50:29.340And so that was really interesting to see.
00:50:29.760 -->
00:50:34.659But we also do have the ongoing shells, which like have spectrum and stuff like that, which made perfect sense.
00:50:34.860 -->
00:50:37.070Zoo also really likes this card.
00:50:37.079 -->
00:50:39.349The extra one drop there, it gets buffed by the likes.
00:50:39.684 -->
00:50:48.954Of you know the Marvel boy, which we did mention you know, and then you have, of course, it being one drop Kzar and blue Marvel like it as well, and obviously the Gilgamesh finish works, works with it as well.
00:50:48.965 -->
00:50:52.695And it just seemed like a very natural inclusion in a whole bunch of decks.
00:50:52.844 -->
00:50:53.054Yeah.
00:50:53.054 -->
00:50:57.985And hopefully when Redwing comes out and we can maybe try that Dracula dump thing, I think that's going to work with cool obsidian.
00:50:57.985 -->
00:50:59.764And then you can maybe have this card involved too.
00:51:00.105 -->
00:51:03.514There's even future for that archetype to get even better.
00:51:03.905 -->
00:51:09.574But yeah, I think you nailed it when you said that it doesn't feel like the strongest card to ever come out.
00:51:09.875 -->
00:51:13.804We had expectations for that, but it does feel very solid at that.
00:51:13.815 -->
00:51:17.405Reminds me again, I think I said this, it reminds me a little bit of Kate Bishop in a way.
00:51:17.405 -->
00:51:22.074I think Kate Bishop's better, but this is in that same wheelhouse.
00:51:22.514 -->
00:51:23.114You know what it is?
00:51:23.114 -->
00:51:30.405Kate Bishop is never frustrating in a way that Sam Wilson can be because when you have the shield out there and you don't draw Sam Wilson, it sucks.
00:51:30.445 -->
00:51:31.184It's so annoying.
00:51:31.195 -->
00:51:35.824Like maybe my temper is just not made for Sam Wilson, whereas like I'm looking at that shield.
00:51:35.824 -->
00:51:38.605I'm like, bro, I have so many plans for you and I can't do any of it.
00:51:38.824 -->
00:51:39.655It's so annoying.
00:51:39.855 -->
00:51:41.855And because obviously it's an ongoing effect.
00:51:42.025 -->
00:51:43.655So you have to play Sam Wilson down.
00:51:43.655 -->
00:51:50.394And then the next turn you can move the shield, I felt that it was slow at times, which kind of brings it into that like four star range, three and a half, four star range.
00:51:50.965 -->
00:52:02.735But like, yeah, it's a good card, but I found it personally a little frustrating to play at times, but what really impressed me was the wide variety of archetypes that it found testing in and all of which relatively successful.
00:52:03.355 -->
00:52:06.954And you can't always say that it feels okay.
00:52:06.954 -->
00:52:09.275It does not have the width of something like iron Patriots.
00:52:09.275 -->
00:52:11.844Iron Patriot was literally very similar, pretty much everywhere.
00:52:12.005 -->
00:52:13.074It doesn't have that with.
00:52:13.699 -->
00:52:18.030But it feels like a very natural inclusion in so many archetypes.
00:52:18.030 -->
00:52:20.469It probably needed a little bit of extra love.
00:52:20.469 -->
00:52:23.460Now I'm not saying the searcher needed extra love because it got it with Ares.
00:52:23.800 -->
00:52:26.389It might even get some more with with Thunderbolt Ross.
00:52:26.940 -->
00:52:28.789But like zoo might've needed something right.
00:52:28.789 -->
00:52:33.260Zoo had been consistent for the longest time, but now with Sam Wilson, it's got a legit piece to do something else.
00:52:33.320 -->
00:52:33.449Yeah.
00:52:33.449 -->
00:52:35.110But tell me this, cause this is my feeling.
00:52:35.130 -->
00:52:37.000I think in a few months he'll be forgotten.
00:52:37.159 -->
00:52:42.820I like this to me reminds me of a car that is, you don't need, and he will not be important of relevance within a few months.
00:52:42.820 -->
00:52:44.710Like it just has that written all over it.
00:52:44.769 -->
00:52:49.690And so that's my biggest takeaways, you know, is fun and the flavor and kind of a, you know, buy me, buy me build.
00:52:50.385 -->
00:52:53.324You don't, you don't need to it was my takeaway.
00:52:54.175 -->
00:52:54.755Yeah, I agree.
00:52:54.755 -->
00:52:55.094A hundred percent.
00:52:55.114 -->
00:52:56.824Like you'll be able to move on from this.
00:52:56.824 -->
00:53:03.445I think it does not have the meta impact that would be like, well, if you don't buy this card, you're going to feel like a clown, like Surtur felt that way.
00:53:03.505 -->
00:53:03.744Right.
00:53:03.744 -->
00:53:07.565When, when you didn't have Surtur, you're like, what is happening all around me until they nerfed it.
00:53:07.565 -->
00:53:07.835Right.
00:53:08.135 -->
00:53:15.454Thankfully we'd have had, we have not had many of those types of cards with the season passes, but yeah, this definitely feels of season pass caliber.
00:53:15.760 -->
00:53:42.855Skippable as a whole, if you so desire, and I think the part of the skippability of it too, is that if you happen to get Iron Patriot, they're both two threes, they're both two slotted cards, and they both fill very similar niches to some degree, where they're like cool slot ins, if you're missing cards, right, like if you're missing like a card on a popular deck, you could maybe put Iron Patriot in there, you could put Sam Wilson in there, and generally it'll kind of work okay, but if you have Iron Patriot, It kind of, I feel like they step on each other's toes a little bit.
00:53:42.934 -->
00:53:47.614Obviously they don't do the same thing, but if you're looking to fill gaps in a deck list, then I feel like they do.
00:53:47.614 -->
00:53:48.235So I agree.
00:53:48.445 -->
00:53:50.175Definitely a little skippable on that side.
00:53:50.445 -->
00:53:53.644And next that's going to take us to Joaquin Torres Falcon.
00:53:53.644 -->
00:53:55.175And this was in the spotlight caches.
00:53:55.355 -->
00:53:58.335So as Sam Wilson was a spot was the season pass card.
00:53:58.335 -->
00:54:01.855Joaquin is the spotlight cash card.
00:54:01.954 -->
00:54:02.155Wow.
00:54:02.155 -->
00:54:04.204I almost couldn't get that out, but basically.
00:54:04.864 -->
00:54:08.014I actually thought this card surprised me.
00:54:08.144 -->
00:54:09.804Now it's win rate and statistics are lower.
00:54:09.804 -->
00:54:11.605It's running a 54 percent win rate and a 0.
00:54:11.605 -->
00:54:18.21547 cube rate, but its popularity is like a quarter of that of Sam Wilson's.
00:54:18.264 -->
00:54:24.505Sam Wilson has been seeing a lot of experimentation and it looks like only balance players have been playing Joaquin Torres Falcon, but guess what?
00:54:24.574 -->
00:54:26.454That's expected because it's a balance card.
00:54:26.664 -->
00:54:28.224It is purely a balance card.
00:54:28.385 -->
00:54:33.025In fact, even looking at untapped, there are almost no variants of this card outside of balance.
00:54:33.434 -->
00:54:40.034And so, if you don't play Bounce at all, right off the top, you can skip, skip, skip a loop right by it because you really don't need it.
00:54:40.255 -->
00:54:48.244Yeah I did see there was one deck floating around on Twitter that was cool that we mentioned about Korg having a a good impact potentially with this.
00:54:48.255 -->
00:54:54.545And I saw one that was kind of like a Bounce deck with like having Agent Venom involved and then obviously Darkhawk.
00:54:55.030 -->
00:54:56.030And then you have the hood in there.
00:54:56.030 -->
00:54:59.289So then you're able to get, like, multiple demons to your hood.
00:54:59.300 -->
00:55:00.949It's not bad value because of the Agent Venom.
00:55:01.130 -->
00:55:02.269Or, sorry, I keep saying Agent Venom.
00:55:02.280 -->
00:55:02.989Yeah, Agent Venom.
00:55:03.010 -->
00:55:04.400I don't know why I stumbled into that.
00:55:04.570 -->
00:55:05.480But anyway, you get those.
00:55:05.480 -->
00:55:09.730You have Darkhawk cooking up because you have the Korg putting out multiple hits.
00:55:09.739 -->
00:55:11.150And then you can bounce that Korg back.
00:55:11.239 -->
00:55:13.909So, you know, Joaquin could be this vessel for that a little bit.
00:55:14.269 -->
00:55:16.789We thought it would be a bounce card that's about where it landed.
00:55:16.920 -->
00:55:25.704I think I quoted and said, This is the first week in a while that feels like there's not, like, Two really good cards on the same week, like a lot of season pass weeks, it's tough.
00:55:25.704 -->
00:55:27.994They put a banger out, you know, right away.
00:55:28.045 -->
00:55:33.125We had that with like, Ope Summers and Red Hulk and even last with Victoria Hand, you wanted to get that with Iron Patriot.
00:55:33.594 -->
00:55:40.264And I think the weird thing it is a little bit is typically, typically those cards synergize with the season.
00:55:40.375 -->
00:55:44.099Like we've seen that a lot and where Joaquin does not obviously synergize with Sam.
00:55:44.980 -->
00:55:54.150No, because if you had Iron Patriot, you almost wanted Victoria Hand, or if you rolled Victoria Hand in the Spotlight Cash, it was like, well, damn, I guess I'm spending ten bucks on this Season Pass card now, right?
00:55:54.460 -->
00:55:56.239It's almost a good business sense, to be honest with you.
00:55:56.460 -->
00:56:06.159But with Taurus Falcon, I have to tell ya, in my testing, when I was like testing and working with Elfstreamian, people were like, ah, this card's kind of mid whatever, and I could see why people would say that.
00:56:07.090 -->
00:56:09.929And I was starting to see reviews come in, people were like, Ah, this card's not that good.
00:56:09.929 -->
00:56:10.969I'm like, you know what though?
00:56:11.039 -->
00:56:11.809I think it is.
00:56:11.849 -->
00:56:13.820Like, I think it is good for bounce.
00:56:13.889 -->
00:56:16.280I don't think it's going to have the impact that, like, Toxin did.
00:56:16.829 -->
00:56:21.880However, I think that it is a very interesting form of, like, a Wong for bounce.
00:56:22.090 -->
00:56:25.559That, like, yeah, it's, Wong is a four cost, this is a three cost.
00:56:25.869 -->
00:56:30.820But when you're working primarily with one drops, that allows you to activate your combos one turn earlier.
00:56:31.159 -->
00:56:40.639Because whereas you're playing Wong on four, on four, you can have walking Taurus out on three already, or you can play him into another one drop and then start some balance magic with beast on five.
00:56:40.639 -->
00:56:40.889Right.
00:56:41.329 -->
00:56:48.170I really liked this card and what really stood out to me were the winners that this card enabled the hood huge.
00:56:48.280 -->
00:56:51.690I had a game where I had like six or seven demons on the board.
00:56:52.039 -->
00:56:52.610It was ridiculous.
00:56:52.610 -->
00:56:53.409There's demons everywhere.
00:56:53.409 -->
00:56:54.909And like they're one sixes.
00:56:55.099 -->
00:56:59.639If not, they're free because of the black Swan, which is a core component of these decks.
00:57:00.210 -->
00:57:04.559Moreover, we were seeing carries from cards like Rocket Raccoon.
00:57:04.829 -->
00:57:06.840Silver Sable was absolutely huge in it.
00:57:07.289 -->
00:57:12.940And perhaps the biggest winner for me, and we talked about it before as a card that I don't play enough, was Nikumanaru.
00:57:13.469 -->
00:57:19.170Niko was absolutely insane, in particular with the skill, or the ability, where she doubles her own power.
00:57:19.460 -->
00:57:29.219She doubles twice! It's double the exponential growth, and if you hit her with the with the Agent Venom, She's like 12 power like boom boom and it's like what is happening?
00:57:29.219 -->
00:57:31.340And then you can bounce her and play something else, right?
00:57:31.340 -->
00:57:39.900You can bounce her and the effect changes and you so like Nico was insane with Taurus Falcon like absolutely ridiculous So I saw the potential a hundred percent
00:57:39.989 -->
00:58:06.804side note on Nico I did a video of like characters I want to come to rivals the most and I threw Nico in there just because I feel like there's some underground runaway for it fans dude people were loot people like finally Nico represents it like people want to see Nico Come to life even more so it's kind of like Jeff was the sizzle and snap and then really came to life with rivals Like obviously snap is a card game So you don't get to see it all but to be able I even ripped off a little bit of her kid on here I'm like, you know all of her spells and like what?
00:58:07.309 -->
00:58:39.030They could implement would be really cool to see and Nico has always been one of my favorite cards here in snap And yeah, dude, what key we had a feeling that you know, obviously you think of like, okay She can move cards to the right, but there's a couple effects there that whenever you get I don't know why I'm blanking the the location that doubles the Kamar tosh whenever you get that, you know, you're like, wow, my Nico could really go crazy here or even if you get you know Cloning vet whatever Nico has so many abilities that you could really just Kind of abuse and walking helps that out.
00:58:39.840 -->
00:58:51.309And the thing I liked about it too, is I often had like, I played Joaquin on three, and then on four, I would play like like a one drop or something, I would bounce it, but then Joaquin's now a two with zero costed one drops.
00:58:51.590 -->
00:58:56.820So I could play him again, and then all the one drops on top, and then I could falcon them back up, and then play on top of them again.
00:58:57.090 -->
00:59:15.335Iceman was pretty cool, but I ended up cutting Iceman from the deck I was experimenting with, because Iceman didn't like, carry power wise, it was like good disruption, but what I found really interesting, Was that like, I was having these one drop cards exceed 10 power regularly, like Silver Sable, Rocket you know, Neeko at times based on what I pulled.
00:59:15.715 -->
00:59:19.045And then you had the finisher, the finishers of Sage and Hitmonkey.
00:59:19.184 -->
00:59:26.465And if you think about it, if, yeah, if you're balancing stuff back, you can Hitmonkey, Sage, and if you played the Black Swan and all your one drops are free, that's an easy snap.
00:59:26.465 -->
00:59:27.885You're throwing up insane power.
00:59:28.014 -->
00:59:31.405It's time to counter it and run your Killmonger, Uncle Bindex, man, and then you're good to go.
00:59:31.905 -->
00:59:32.804Yeah, actually, you know what?
00:59:32.815 -->
00:59:38.405If this took off, like, severely, you would start to see the Invisible Woman Killmonger stuff come back, I think.
00:59:38.684 -->
00:59:46.034Because that was the way they tried to, like, counterplay the, the bounce with with Kitty Pryde, which ironically doesn't make these decks, because it's not on reveal, right?
00:59:46.275 -->
00:59:55.110And I thought about, like, Kitty Pryde and and Thena, but it's just It would not be good enough in these decks because if you think about where the power and the value is being generated, right?
00:59:55.110 -->
01:00:05.159You play cards down, you toxin them back up, you have the black swan, you have the falcon, and you're just repeatedly playing these one drops to, to like, just get that effect over and over and over and over again.
01:00:05.429 -->
01:00:11.699Rockets seemed risky at times, but other than that Yeah, it was legitimately insane what this card could do.
01:00:11.699 -->
01:00:13.849And if you're a balance player, I think it's an absolute must have.
01:00:13.869 -->
01:00:17.750If you don't play balance, you can absolutely skip it because it's the only place where it's seeing play.
01:00:18.150 -->
01:00:22.210And even then we're seeing stats in the 57 percent win rate range for these decks.
01:00:22.519 -->
01:00:23.780And these were already good decks.
01:00:24.315 -->
01:00:26.445However, and this is something we talk about all the time.
01:00:26.724 -->
01:00:30.264You also have a lot of people playing bounce that don't traditionally play bounce, myself included, right?
01:00:30.264 -->
01:00:32.565Every time I have to record a bounce video, I'm like, Oh, here we go.
01:00:32.735 -->
01:00:35.594I'm going to be baiting engagement in the comments with all these misplays.
01:00:35.594 -->
01:00:35.804Right.
01:00:35.804 -->
01:00:37.775And generally I found it pretty straightforward.
01:00:37.844 -->
01:00:44.954I think toxin really aids in the accessibility of bounce, but generally speaking, yeah, I came away impressed with the card cozy.
01:00:44.965 -->
01:00:48.085And if you're a bounce player, I think it's definitely worth adding to your collection.
01:00:48.284 -->
01:00:50.514And we talk about adding things to collections, cozy.
01:00:50.800 -->
01:00:52.880That's going to take us to series drops.
01:00:53.059 -->
01:01:05.760Now series drops have not been formally announced, but if you need reminder, one of the most jarring moments in Marvel snaps history was when they series dropped a bunch of and then people lost their minds.
01:01:06.239 -->
01:01:09.289And then the response to that from second dinner was, Hey guys.
01:01:09.795 -->
01:01:10.905We know this sucks.
01:01:10.985 -->
01:01:15.855The next series drop is going to be bigger, better, and sooner than this one.
01:01:16.085 -->
01:01:17.344So stay tuned.
01:01:17.764 -->
01:01:24.744And now we're kind of into the range of like, huh, they might be able to announce the series drop sooner or later.
01:01:25.034 -->
01:01:25.425And so.
01:01:25.795 -->
01:01:26.695Why not discuss it?
01:01:26.695 -->
01:01:32.085Cozy, let's actually plant some seeds for second dinner here as to what are the cards that we would like to see dropped.
01:01:32.114 -->
01:01:37.614Yeah, and I wish they would do it before this new game mode in the S4 and S5 unknowns come out.
01:01:37.625 -->
01:01:40.085Cause then it's like, then you're really feasting, right?
01:01:40.105 -->
01:01:42.605Cause they drop everything and then that pool is a lot smaller.
01:01:42.855 -->
01:01:44.025I thought I saw hints of that.
01:01:44.065 -->
01:01:44.675Probably not.
01:01:44.974 -->
01:01:57.739But yeah, man, lots of, listen, they have, we know that they Are going to at least make this one much better than before and so that gets our hopes up a bit on to what the potential of these drops can be.
01:01:58.099 -->
01:02:02.849So yeah, hit me with some cards that you think are, are, have a pretty good shot to go down.
01:02:02.900 -->
01:02:04.460I mean, is it a lot of them?
01:02:04.559 -->
01:02:09.760Are they going to go crazy like they did the compensation for the ban and really over deliver?
01:02:10.260 -->
01:02:12.639Give me like a 1 through 10 on your confidence on how, how.
01:02:13.065 -->
01:02:14.405Big, you think these jobs are going to be?
01:02:15.324 -->
01:02:17.554I think it has to be no less than an eight.
01:02:17.994 -->
01:02:20.405Like, I think you're always gonna be able to look at one card.
01:02:20.405 -->
01:02:21.534They're like, Oh, they didn't drop.
01:02:21.534 -->
01:02:23.235No, I don't know why they didn't do that or whatever.
01:02:23.264 -->
01:02:24.304There's always going to be one card.
01:02:24.304 -->
01:02:28.045You can take a look at, but as a whole, they have to nail this.
01:02:28.045 -->
01:02:29.005They absolutely have to.
01:02:29.025 -->
01:02:30.394And I think they recognize that.
01:02:30.605 -->
01:02:34.184I mean, if you look at the game, all this coming out with the sanctum there.
01:02:34.630 -->
01:02:35.900The rewards are awesome.
01:02:36.280 -->
01:02:36.639Right.
01:02:37.090 -->
01:02:40.840And I think that they need to start leaning into like giving a little bit back to the community.
01:02:40.840 -->
01:02:49.230And I think they have been though, I think you're starting to see them recognize that they need to be more you know, just fruitful with their community and be giving a little bit more.
01:02:49.230 -->
01:02:51.079They're, they're more generous, I would say.
01:02:51.380 -->
01:02:53.610And so like, yeah, I think they absolutely have to nail it.
01:02:53.619 -->
01:02:54.570Do you not agree?
01:02:54.650 -->
01:02:56.019Yo, I mean, I think they will.
01:02:56.260 -->
01:03:00.940The thing is to me, it's not even about specifically, there is, it's definitely important what.
01:03:01.409 -->
01:03:03.619Which cards they do, versus how many.
01:03:03.630 -->
01:03:09.489We have 78 series 5 cards, 78, and 35 series 4 cards, alright?
01:03:09.780 -->
01:03:13.440So, 112, 113 cards in total.
01:03:14.280 -->
01:03:16.699That's gonna be cut down dramatically, right?
01:03:16.710 -->
01:03:17.380Dramatically.
01:03:17.380 -->
01:03:27.414And so They're gonna have to look at, I, I, I think a baseline is you go to Series 4 and you drop everything that's like a really non relevance, or like, anything that just can go.
01:03:28.454 -->
01:03:34.545Clearly, a lot of those 35s out, and then that 78 number, you cut that in half, and you put the rest of those down to S4.
01:03:34.885 -->
01:03:39.664Some of those in S5, hopefully they even take down to just full 3 altogether, potentially.
01:03:39.695 -->
01:03:40.704We don't know if we'll see that.
01:03:41.105 -->
01:03:51.114That's, you know, I don't want to over hype and over potential what we could see, but my feeling is, is they don't want, they can't lack luster hit this, right?
01:03:51.114 -->
01:03:57.945So they're gonna, I think they're over delivering to compensate of the safety of not underwhelming, right?
01:03:57.945 -->
01:03:59.195And that's my, that's my thought.
01:04:00.005 -->
01:04:01.724Yeah, I think that's absolutely accurate.
01:04:01.724 -->
01:04:12.875And you know, let's start with series four to series three, which I think is very important for the new player experience in particular, because they've increased the number of cards you get through the progression to the collection track for series three.
01:04:12.875 -->
01:04:14.114So it's a good place to start.
01:04:14.114 -->
01:04:15.744Then we'll go to the heavy hitters of series five.
01:04:16.014 -->
01:04:18.695There's a couple of cards that stand out for being here for a long time.
01:04:18.695 -->
01:04:20.445First of all, Zabu.
01:04:20.960 -->
01:04:23.510And Modoc feel like they've been there forever.
01:04:23.639 -->
01:04:26.099Can you see Zabu or Modoc coming down to series three?
01:04:26.170 -->
01:04:27.079Yeah, those are two.
01:04:27.500 -->
01:04:29.590Those are two definitely that are going to go down in my opinion.
01:04:29.670 -->
01:04:31.710I think no question.
01:04:31.960 -->
01:04:35.619I feel like they look at age on some of these and those are ones that they can put down to pull through.
01:04:36.119 -->
01:04:43.840Yeah, absolutely, I do agree, and they've been in there forever, and Zabu is actually seeing play again, and Modok, too, with a lot of the decks featuring Bullseye and stuff like that.
01:04:44.090 -->
01:04:49.650Another card of that approximate era, although a little bit, or kind of newer, is gonna be Legion.
01:04:49.650 -->
01:04:55.760Legion's a card that has its play in the the War Machine decks, but kind of not really seeing much play outside of War Machine and Aerostrom.
01:04:56.199 -->
01:04:58.030But, Legion could come down as well.
01:04:58.079 -->
01:05:00.639It's a little newer, but still, I think I can see it falling.
01:05:01.469 -->
01:05:04.340Yeah, I think I see Legion going down.
01:05:04.409 -->
01:05:05.829And Nebula too.
01:05:05.829 -->
01:05:11.099I think both, like, some of those, I think, that have been in there for a while, and also, again, it's that impact factor, right?
01:05:11.099 -->
01:05:19.170Like, to me, if you, if they're looking at it as a business, Nebula has kind of phased out as that one cost premium card that you need to have.
01:05:19.170 -->
01:05:21.590There's so many of those now, especially more that they've introduced.
01:05:21.980 -->
01:05:24.309So, like, it's that kind of stuff that you can bring down.
01:05:24.650 -->
01:05:34.594Legion may stay because of his uniqueness, and there's other cards that have been out longer than him that could go down, but That's potentially how I see it.
01:05:35.594 -->
01:05:40.684I instilled the thought process that I would think that tech cards should drop faster than others.
01:05:40.704 -->
01:05:43.585So Mobius and Mobius should be one that goes to series three.
01:05:43.815 -->
01:05:44.244Yeah.
01:05:44.244 -->
01:05:48.574And almost Ravonna, it's like, I feel like it's tech cards.
01:05:48.594 -->
01:05:55.655And then like these like almost like Patriot cards, or it's like, they kind of give you a full archetype to play with in some cases.
01:05:55.675 -->
01:05:56.114No.
01:05:56.605 -->
01:06:03.994But because of how long she's been out, and because of She just feels like a car that would be a great home run for them to just to send down there.
01:06:04.324 -->
01:06:06.324I get Darkhawk and Nola have been there forever.
01:06:06.335 -->
01:06:08.244Those two gotta go down now at this point.
01:06:08.275 -->
01:06:09.545There's just no reason.
01:06:09.545 -->
01:06:10.954They help with the archetype.
01:06:11.315 -->
01:06:12.005Awesome.
01:06:12.405 -->
01:06:13.235Let's put them down.
01:06:13.364 -->
01:06:14.644There's just no question there.
01:06:15.164 -->
01:06:19.485There's just some obvious ones that I think they just, there's just no point for them not to go down.
01:06:19.505 -->
01:06:20.005Silk.
01:06:20.454 -->
01:06:24.375Is another one, you know, like Living Tribunal, I think will stay.
01:06:24.525 -->
01:06:26.215I think that's one that will stay in series.
01:06:26.425 -->
01:06:28.335Like, there's a couple that you look at, like Iron Lad.
01:06:28.335 -->
01:06:30.355I don't know if they would bring him down.
01:06:30.985 -->
01:06:31.755I think it stays up.
01:06:31.764 -->
01:06:32.085Yeah,
01:06:32.085 -->
01:06:34.914there's a couple of these like, or X23 is another good example.
01:06:34.925 -->
01:06:36.614I don't think she ever goes down either.
01:06:36.835 -->
01:06:39.739So, those are the ones I think might stay in S4.
01:06:40.440 -->
01:06:46.300I'm calling this right now, both Nimrod and Phoenix force go down to three cause they're in a spotlight cash for one more hurrah.
01:06:46.949 -->
01:06:53.929And so they got there, they'd eat up a couple more caches for everyone, you know, take, take some keys out of the economy and then they drop them to series three.
01:06:54.260 -->
01:06:55.500That's probably what's going to happen there.
01:06:55.500 -->
01:06:59.489But yeah, I think that that's more or less what I would have talked about a hit monkey too, I guess.
01:06:59.730 -->
01:07:03.650Like if if you think about hit monkey and what, how important it is to those balance based archetypes.
01:07:04.239 -->
01:07:07.230It's got to drop eventually, but yeah Nebula was actually kind of recent.
01:07:07.230 -->
01:07:07.500Wasn't it?
01:07:07.500 -->
01:07:10.460It was not the most recent, recent series job, but the one before that,
01:07:10.900 -->
01:07:11.750I don't think it's been in series
01:07:11.750 -->
01:07:12.469for that long.
01:07:12.469 -->
01:07:12.690Right.
01:07:12.690 -->
01:07:14.380But I think it could definitely fall again.
01:07:14.420 -->
01:07:14.900Yeah.
01:07:15.500 -->
01:07:21.130To me, it's more of like, it's just the ones that do they even need to be there?
01:07:21.199 -->
01:07:28.989Like it is my take and rather like if listen, second dinner doesn't look at the time thing, we can prove that with Nolan Darkhawk.
01:07:29.239 -->
01:07:31.900So I think like, let's make it stay consistent with that.
01:07:31.909 -->
01:07:33.500And I don't think it matters all that much.
01:07:33.934 -->
01:07:36.394It's the ones that feel like they should be S4.
01:07:36.394 -->
01:07:38.465Maybe Nebula stays, but that was my thought on it.
01:07:38.965 -->
01:07:39.315Okay.
01:07:39.315 -->
01:07:41.085And I think that more or less covers series four.
01:07:41.085 -->
01:07:42.355That's what I would expect.
01:07:42.355 -->
01:07:43.744I'm fully in line with you there.
01:07:43.925 -->
01:07:45.014Now let's go to series five.
01:07:45.025 -->
01:07:47.565There's a lot more cards, a lot more of these are more impactful.
01:07:47.775 -->
01:07:53.574Unfortunately, we have some series five cards that seem to have a lot of plot armor with regards to series drops.
01:07:53.594 -->
01:07:57.795And it seems like the more popular they are and the better they are, the higher they stay up.
01:07:57.804 -->
01:07:58.304Right.
01:07:58.545 -->
01:07:59.644So I'm going to start with something.
01:07:59.644 -->
01:08:02.514We did mention that tech cards should drop faster.
01:08:02.525 -->
01:08:03.855Quick question though, before you start, do
01:08:03.855 -->
01:08:05.565you think any of these go down to pool three?
01:08:06.065 -->
01:08:06.914Immediately from series
01:08:06.914 -->
01:08:07.324five.
01:08:08.014 -->
01:08:08.494I think I don't
01:08:08.494 -->
01:08:09.217think they would do that.
01:08:09.217 -->
01:08:11.554No, I think you think there's, do you think you're going to see a double drop?
01:08:11.565 -->
01:08:12.335Didn't we get that?
01:08:12.335 -->
01:08:15.394I feel like we got that before with one or two parts.
01:08:15.434 -->
01:08:17.154Was that Jean gray or something like something?
01:08:17.654 -->
01:08:20.104I don't ever remember a car dropping that fast.
01:08:20.114 -->
01:08:23.514I remember, I remember like gladiators dropping from five to four fast wasn't
01:08:23.514 -->
01:08:24.198Jean S five.
01:08:24.198 -->
01:08:24.425Right.
01:08:24.425 -->
01:08:25.792And now isn't she pull three.
01:08:25.792 -->
01:08:26.475Yeah, but I
01:08:26.475 -->
01:08:29.244think she sat at series four for a while.
01:08:29.484 -->
01:08:29.984Potentially.
01:08:30.055 -->
01:08:30.555I don't know.
01:08:30.595 -->
01:08:33.454I feel like they, they have 78 cards to handle.
01:08:33.704 -->
01:08:34.614So if they put.
01:08:35.175 -->
01:08:46.444A lot of these in a pool four, then you just have a huge pool four at that point, because then they would, if they're only dropping some of those, so I do think we might get some of these to go down all the way to three potentially, but it's a serious, it's a serious drops.
01:08:46.444 -->
01:08:48.604I don't know how they, that's my guess though.
01:08:48.635 -->
01:08:49.095That's my guess.
01:08:49.595 -->
01:08:49.975Hmm.
01:08:50.385 -->
01:08:50.694Hmm.
01:08:50.744 -->
01:08:54.784But they won't be able to, you know, rip those tokens out of your pockets if they do it that way, right?
01:08:54.784 -->
01:08:55.835So you got to keep that in mind.
01:08:56.185 -->
01:08:58.954Talking about tech cards, we discussed tech cards dropping a little more frequently.
01:08:58.954 -->
01:09:02.524Now this one's running a 24 percent play rate and a 55 percent win rate.
01:09:03.164 -->
01:09:04.024It's Red Guardian.
01:09:04.395 -->
01:09:06.215Red Guardian is literally all over the place.
01:09:06.215 -->
01:09:08.975And if you're someone who's thinking to yourself, Oh, you know, is Luke Cage a problem?
01:09:08.975 -->
01:09:10.055What about Red Guardian?
01:09:10.305 -->
01:09:12.994Can you see Red Guardian dropping or is it simply too popular right now?
01:09:13.005 -->
01:09:14.085No, he should go.
01:09:14.295 -->
01:09:15.444He definitely should go down.
01:09:15.515 -->
01:09:18.835Yeah, I think Red Guardian, as you said, tech cards are important to have.
01:09:19.234 -->
01:09:23.425Especially ones that are played a lot important to go down there.
01:09:24.024 -->
01:09:29.965There are series five cards, you look at them and you're like, there's no shot, but there are some that you look at and you're like, they have to go and I think he's one.
01:09:30.465 -->
01:09:30.765Yeah.
01:09:30.784 -->
01:09:32.215What's one that you think is no shot?
01:09:32.524 -->
01:09:35.895So the ones that I think aren't going to go down are things like gore.
01:09:36.055 -->
01:09:37.015I think Nico.
01:09:37.539 -->
01:09:38.609Might stay up there, too.
01:09:38.630 -->
01:09:39.069I think
01:09:39.149 -->
01:09:39.720I agree.
01:09:39.720 -->
01:09:40.920I don't think Nico drops these
01:09:40.979 -->
01:09:41.430power.
01:09:41.689 -->
01:09:44.069It's not that they're like powerful in play.
01:09:44.069 -->
01:09:47.130They are, but also they just they feel as five to me, man.
01:09:47.140 -->
01:09:50.020I think a life potentially could stay even though that's weird.
01:09:50.020 -->
01:09:52.470I think he could stay mocking birds.
01:09:52.470 -->
01:09:55.260Another I think I could see them dropping Wiccan.
01:09:55.329 -->
01:10:03.390I can see them dropping sage copycat potentially, but like these big, they just kind of stand out a little bit, right?
01:10:03.390 -->
01:10:06.625Like, Red Hulk, I don't think Red Hulk's going down.
01:10:06.835 -->
01:10:08.645I think he's going to stay in S5 as well.
01:10:08.784 -->
01:10:10.215I don't think Wiccan goes down.
01:10:10.244 -->
01:10:10.965I think Wiccan's too good.
01:10:10.965 -->
01:10:11.444He's on the edge.
01:10:11.444 -->
01:10:12.354I think Wiccan stays up.
01:10:12.545 -->
01:10:13.574Yeah, I think Wiccan stays up.
01:10:13.604 -->
01:10:21.125And I think what you're trying to get at and what I was thinking about too, I think it's less about performance with Series 5 and sometimes about the design space they occupy.
01:10:21.135 -->
01:10:27.895If you think about Neeko, it feels premium because it's a really cool card that does like a really wide amount of things.
01:10:28.145 -->
01:10:30.095The same reason why Ereshim won't drop.
01:10:30.534 -->
01:10:33.324Because it's a very unique card, okay?
01:10:33.534 -->
01:10:35.795You have the classic big bads, right?
01:10:35.835 -->
01:10:37.845Of like Thanos and Galactus.
01:10:37.895 -->
01:10:42.505They don't drop because they do a very specific, big game altering thing.
01:10:42.805 -->
01:10:46.454So I wonder how much of it's like design and how long they've been there for.
01:10:46.925 -->
01:10:48.904Versus their win rate and playability.
01:10:48.944 -->
01:10:49.234And to
01:10:49.234 -->
01:10:52.335me, if they go by that, then it's like, they should really go by that.
01:10:52.364 -->
01:10:52.784And.
01:10:53.039 -->
01:10:55.960Everything that's more niche should go at least down one, right?
01:10:55.960 -->
01:10:59.569So like Circe has no business being in, in S5, right?
01:10:59.569 -->
01:11:03.859Like those style of, of cards that are maybe just moved opinion.
01:11:03.899 -->
01:11:07.090Or Rania like I know she's newer, but she can go down.
01:11:07.100 -->
01:11:07.369Right.
01:11:07.369 -->
01:11:08.109Because it's just.
01:11:08.954 -->
01:11:09.694Very niche.
01:11:09.904 -->
01:11:10.654Makari's definitely.
01:11:11.585 -->
01:11:11.944Yeah.
01:11:12.114 -->
01:11:12.555Yeah.
01:11:13.024 -->
01:11:13.885They just don't have a lot.
01:11:14.045 -->
01:11:14.935Like, Anti Venom?
01:11:14.935 -->
01:11:15.585I think will stay.
01:11:15.875 -->
01:11:18.484It's another, kind of weird, kind of niche, but I think he'll stay.
01:11:18.704 -->
01:11:21.494And Anti both Anti Venom and Agent Venom.
01:11:21.685 -->
01:11:23.265By the way, I was trying to correct myself.
01:11:23.274 -->
01:11:26.944It was Agent Venom I was referring to earlier, not Anti Venom on this Darkhawk deck.
01:11:26.954 -->
01:11:27.625Besides the point.
01:11:28.015 -->
01:11:29.154Thanos isn't moving.
01:11:29.164 -->
01:11:30.895The old big bads aren't moving.
01:11:31.185 -->
01:11:33.715Blob probably isn't moving either Alex.
01:11:33.715 -->
01:11:34.784But, Cannonball.
01:11:35.284 -->
01:11:37.125Tyera, US agent.
01:11:37.135 -->
01:11:37.654They're all moving.
01:11:37.654 -->
01:11:37.935Yeah.
01:11:38.435 -->
01:11:38.654Yeah.
01:11:38.654 -->
01:11:39.885I w I would say so.
01:11:39.885 -->
01:11:49.414I think cannibal, I wonder if they don't move cannibal down because they, I think they're very hesitant to make cannibal like overly accessible because of how disruptive it can be.
01:11:49.984 -->
01:11:51.164Remember, it was previously nerfed.
01:11:51.164 -->
01:11:52.185It was buffed back up.
01:11:52.409 -->
01:11:54.500But they had to change the professor X for that to happen.
01:11:54.500 -->
01:11:56.060So I wonder if they're careful with that.
01:11:56.359 -->
01:12:01.420I guess the big one for me is I wonder if we're at a point where Jeff goes to four, or do you think Jeff stays up?
01:12:01.439 -->
01:12:01.930I think he should
01:12:01.930 -->
01:12:02.140go.
01:12:02.250 -->
01:12:03.060No, I think he should go.
01:12:03.359 -->
01:12:05.520I think I think he's like the dark.
01:12:05.560 -->
01:12:07.989I, he, he fits the thing that we said earlier.
01:12:07.989 -->
01:12:08.729Like he's very unique.
01:12:08.729 -->
01:12:12.579He does his thing, but he's been there so long at this point that it's time to bring him down.
01:12:12.579 -->
01:12:13.960It's kind of a meme, right?
01:12:13.960 -->
01:12:16.539Like he would be the one that they could have an amazing drop.
01:12:16.539 -->
01:12:19.270And then if he wasn't brought down, people be like, come on, get Jeff down there.
01:12:19.270 -->
01:12:19.590You know?
01:12:19.965 -->
01:12:21.005I can see him going to S4.
01:12:21.984 -->
01:12:27.064The month that sticks out in my head is the one that's every one of them is going to drop is going to be the block order.
01:12:27.145 -->
01:12:29.015I think the entire block order goes down.
01:12:29.055 -->
01:12:29.274Yeah.
01:12:30.164 -->
01:12:31.875Proxima, Corvus, Cull Obsidian.
01:12:32.045 -->
01:12:35.234They all check those boxes where they don't really do, even Black Swan, right?
01:12:35.404 -->
01:12:38.914Like they're not really meta impactful, but they're worth having in a collection.
01:12:39.145 -->
01:12:42.994I think it's an easy win taking the entire block order and dropping them down one.
01:12:43.005 -->
01:12:43.725Yeah, they do.
01:12:43.755 -->
01:12:45.534They definitely fit that, that role.
01:12:45.545 -->
01:12:50.265Like Gwynpool, I think might stay Some of these like scream and symbiote spider man.
01:12:50.265 -->
01:12:53.034I think they can probably go down I think symbiote probably stays.
01:12:53.055 -->
01:12:54.404I think scream could go down though.
01:12:54.414 -->
01:12:54.944I do
01:12:55.125 -->
01:12:57.994zero chance I think you're huffing an insane amount of opium.
01:12:58.215 -->
01:12:59.194I think it'd be a win.
01:12:59.204 -->
01:13:01.614It'd be a win Yeah, I wonder man.
01:13:02.055 -->
01:13:17.005What if they did a thing where they actually like What if they had like one card every series drop that was like the banner card, you know They draw like can you imagine the series drop announcement and on the front of it is like Nico and scream like doing a fist Bump or something, you know what?
01:13:17.005 -->
01:13:17.425I mean?
01:13:17.704 -->
01:13:21.255Like they know they're dropping some heavy hitters down or that's part of the appeal.
01:13:21.494 -->
01:13:33.979Yeah What's important too is they also need to probably announce or hope they do their plan moving forward with this like so, you know if they You can fix the leaks in a boat, right?
01:13:33.979 -->
01:13:38.449But eventually, those leaks will come back, and so it's like, Eventually, that boat's gonna fill up with water.
01:13:38.489 -->
01:13:44.765Eventually, we're gonna get more of these cards again, and they're gonna have to Have the same issue unless they continue to have big drops like this.
01:13:44.765 -->
01:13:53.435I guess maybe that's what they do but yeah, I mean long time ago She Hulk was that banner card that you know, we were like, whoa, like, you know, she looks going down Shuri
01:13:53.435 -->
01:13:53.994too, right?
01:13:54.055 -->
01:14:02.074Yeah, so I do think I do think they're gonna have some that are on that list of like, oh wow We you know, I wasn't expecting XYZ.
01:14:03.055 -->
01:14:03.305Yeah.
01:14:03.305 -->
01:14:05.854I think that with 100 percent certainty, I'm going to call it right now.
01:14:05.854 -->
01:14:08.475I think Kyara goes down because I think that makes perfect sense.
01:14:08.694 -->
01:14:12.895I would actually venture to say if any cards are gonna go from five to three, it would be Kyara.
01:14:13.225 -->
01:14:16.335And I think the reason why is because it's for zoo players.
01:14:16.335 -->
01:14:18.595You think about early collection level play, right?
01:14:18.725 -->
01:14:22.664Zoo players could use Kyara to protect them against Killmonger, perhaps be more.
01:14:22.835 -->
01:14:37.505You know, efficient at you know, in conquest or at higher MMRs when they get to infinite and et cetera, I think Cairo might be one of the only ones that I can see going from five to three, because it activates an archetype that works in that frame for series three players.
01:14:37.515 -->
01:14:38.244That makes sense.
01:14:38.305 -->
01:14:43.864I do have a question as far as we talked about the old big bad, Thanos Galactus.
01:14:44.539 -->
01:14:49.140High Evo and yeah, so that's why I brought this up.
01:14:49.369 -->
01:14:50.420So came, what do they do?
01:14:50.420 -->
01:14:50.689Right?
01:14:50.689 -->
01:14:53.020So if they bring King down, then the old car doesn't
01:14:53.020 -->
01:14:53.489exist
01:14:53.569 -->
01:14:55.659exactly as it should go down, right?
01:14:55.659 -->
01:15:02.130Like it should go down, but then they, they mess with the big bad term, but then, you know, our gloves off.
01:15:02.149 -->
01:15:02.989Can others go down?
01:15:02.989 -->
01:15:05.159Can a high Evo go down to the pool for him?
01:15:05.159 -->
01:15:05.670King does.
01:15:06.170 -->
01:15:08.460I think they don't bring Kang down.
01:15:08.560 -->
01:15:11.359I think they look to redesign him again.
01:15:11.380 -->
01:15:15.829I bet you Glenn had a design for Kang and they did like it and they never shipped it.
01:15:16.404 -->
01:15:20.234I bet you like, do you remember how we had a patch that got delayed by like six hours one day?
01:15:20.595 -->
01:15:22.935They were taking Kang out of the patch is what happened.
01:15:22.975 -->
01:15:23.494Yeah, I think
01:15:23.534 -->
01:15:23.944that's my guess.
01:15:23.975 -->
01:15:24.055I
01:15:24.055 -->
01:15:25.864think he's right there with the Adam Warlock change.
01:15:25.864 -->
01:15:27.885Yeah, it's coming anytime now, right?
01:15:27.885 -->
01:15:28.675Anytime.
01:15:28.984 -->
01:15:29.125Don't
01:15:29.125 -->
01:15:30.274hold your breath, but it's coming.
01:15:30.305 -->
01:15:30.864Yeah, right.
01:15:31.055 -->
01:15:32.744But yeah, man, I think it's funny.
01:15:32.744 -->
01:15:37.500You can almost do the eyeball test as I scroll through all of these and I can just be like, This feels solid.
01:15:37.829 -->
01:15:39.289This feels like it's too recent.
01:15:39.579 -->
01:15:41.619This feels like it's recent, but should go down.
01:15:42.439 -->
01:15:43.989There's a lot of these that just make sense.
01:15:44.000 -->
01:15:46.380Like, Toxin's never gonna move in a while.
01:15:46.380 -->
01:15:48.420Cause he's just like that super enhancing bit.
01:15:48.720 -->
01:15:52.350Even though he's limited to bounce, I feel like he might stay.
01:15:53.119 -->
01:15:54.630Loki's gonna go down.
01:15:54.640 -->
01:15:59.789You know, you could go through all these and really be able to tell what's gonna go, what's gonna stay.
01:16:00.380 -->
01:16:02.989Like Annihilus, even though he's not played, I don't know.
01:16:03.050 -->
01:16:03.600Maybe?
01:16:04.100 -->
01:16:25.090These like, lynchpin cards to the archetypes feel like they hold more weight at series 5, and Oh man, but the problem is, is like what I think we've been experiencing over the last couple, like several months of Marble Snap is that the cards have been much more balanced and good, but not game breaking, but ever so good so that they improve existing archetypes.
01:16:25.430 -->
01:16:28.970And so for a free to play player, it's become more difficult to.
01:16:29.385 -->
01:16:32.034Pick your resources because everything is kind of good.
01:16:32.234 -->
01:16:35.895Like think about how skippable at first glance Wiccan felt.
01:16:36.324 -->
01:16:41.414And then once those decks got ironed out, Wiccan is still a core part of the meta, right?
01:16:41.414 -->
01:16:42.744Like it's still doing work.
01:16:42.744 -->
01:16:44.805And you can even make the same argument for like speed.
01:16:44.805 -->
01:16:49.555Speed is a good card that I think probably doesn't get played because people don't have him, honestly.
01:16:49.555 -->
01:16:53.885And he doesn't get the meta penetration because his number doesn't go up because people don't have them.
01:16:54.234 -->
01:16:58.435And then like, when you think about what series drops do, they really increase the accessibility.
01:16:58.720 -->
01:17:05.539In particular, while a lot of people really focus on the series five to four, because it's the having of the tokens, which is notable.
01:17:05.560 -->
01:17:18.329Cause we also get double the tokens we used to from spotlight caches moving from series four to three is an even bigger change because those cards are way more free to play accessible, like insanely free to play accessible through the collection track, especially with the doubling of the progression.
01:17:18.850 -->
01:17:21.970And so for me, series five to four is.
01:17:22.225 -->
01:17:28.515It's all good and everything, but that just means it's additional progress towards series four to three, where I think it makes the most sense for players.
01:17:28.545 -->
01:17:35.244And yeah, for my final thoughts, I would say that they've also talked about card acquisition changing entirely.
01:17:35.864 -->
01:17:41.395So, you know, there is a chance they do bring almost the whole chunk of these to S4, right?
01:17:41.395 -->
01:17:46.444None of these do go to S3, but the way to get S4 cards is entirely different, right?
01:17:46.475 -->
01:17:47.704Or whatever they end up doing.
01:17:47.704 -->
01:17:48.914Like, I can see that.
01:17:49.560 -->
01:17:53.350Being very largely realistic, so like, series drops happen way more often.
01:17:53.590 -->
01:17:56.239The S5s go to S4 way more often.
01:17:56.359 -->
01:18:00.949We still have the concrete S5s, but then getting S4s is about 10 times, whatever they do.
01:18:01.159 -->
01:18:05.439Whatever they do for S4s, I can see that being a realistic change.
01:18:06.274 -->
01:18:08.345Or you just get rid of the series thing altogether.
01:18:08.444 -->
01:18:15.045They're either in the collection track or their series, whatever their cash cards or whatever, get rid of the distinction.
01:18:15.055 -->
01:18:17.284You're either in the collector's track or you're not.
01:18:17.774 -->
01:18:19.675That's another point of discussion as well.
01:18:19.935 -->
01:18:22.034But you know what else, sir, is a point of discussion.
01:18:22.034 -->
01:18:27.814We had so many questions for the Snapchat mailbag last week, my friend, and a lot of them revolved around.
01:18:28.475 -->
01:18:29.744Some random discussions we had.
01:18:29.744 -->
01:18:34.345We'll get to some Marble Snap questions as well, but we got to get some core business out of the way, sir.
01:18:34.734 -->
01:18:40.694Question number one comes from Dark Angel, and it read, Beast Wars was my introduction to Transformers.
01:18:41.050 -->
01:18:45.829Also watched Reboot 2, watched a ton of DBZ, early Pokemon, and early Digimon.
01:18:46.319 -->
01:18:48.229I also played a lot of Marvel vs.
01:18:48.260 -->
01:18:53.449Capcom 3 and got into Marvel stuff through Spider Man, the Animated Series, and X Men Evolution.
01:18:54.159 -->
01:18:56.560Also very much enjoyed Jackie Chan Adventures.
01:18:56.579 -->
01:19:00.630I think I stopped watching after the villain attempted to bring their brother and sister from the other dimension.
01:19:00.789 -->
01:19:01.689Such a throwback.
01:19:01.970 -->
01:19:04.399Thanks for the memory lane trip, Alex and Cozy.
01:19:04.770 -->
01:19:05.689Yeah, a couple things.
01:19:05.720 -->
01:19:09.305I watched Like a YouTube thing on Beast Wars and it clicked for me.
01:19:09.305 -->
01:19:10.225I've definitely seen it.
01:19:10.274 -->
01:19:11.244I didn't put it together.
01:19:11.244 -->
01:19:12.555That was Transformers, but yes.
01:19:12.965 -->
01:19:18.104100 percent I was cracking up at the few people that laughed at my my Jackie reference.
01:19:18.154 -->
01:19:23.704Also I get a lot of Canadians on my side that comment and they go, Alex, what do you, what do you want?
01:19:23.704 -->
01:19:25.314What, what did you grow up?
01:19:25.314 -->
01:19:25.475What?
01:19:25.475 -->
01:19:26.545Cause they knew this stuff.
01:19:26.545 -->
01:19:30.335So maybe it depends on where you lived in Canada.
01:19:30.835 -->
01:19:32.085Well, I'm in like the Toronto area.
01:19:32.114 -->
01:19:36.765You'd think that I'd be getting most of the stuff that comes from the States, but maybe I'm just a clown, man.
01:19:36.765 -->
01:19:37.125I don't know.
01:19:37.125 -->
01:19:39.314I've, I've been known to be a clown in the past.
01:19:40.204 -->
01:19:43.045But yeah, it was definitely cool reliving down Nostalgia Lane.
01:19:43.954 -->
01:19:52.185In title of Nostalgia Lane, Steven brought up something important here and says, To just so casually brush over samurai pizza cra pizza cats is criminal.
01:19:52.595 -->
01:19:54.795Cozy, you had never heard of samurai pizza cats.
01:19:55.295 -->
01:19:55.854I haven't.
01:19:56.244 -->
01:19:57.305I don't know.
01:19:58.125 -->
01:19:58.645What are you
01:19:58.645 -->
01:19:59.984watching down south, bud?
01:20:00.085 -->
01:20:03.225Yeah, no, Samurai Pizza Cats did not did not make the American audience.
01:20:03.225 -->
01:20:03.694Probably did.
01:20:03.734 -->
01:20:05.335There's gonna be a million people saying I watch it.
01:20:05.375 -->
01:20:06.895I've never seen that.
01:20:06.954 -->
01:20:07.854I've never even heard of it.
01:20:07.904 -->
01:20:08.675It sounds made up.
01:20:08.935 -->
01:20:09.715It sounds AI generated.
01:20:09.715 -->
01:20:09.854Well, sir,
01:20:09.854 -->
01:20:11.074you have homework for the weekend.
01:20:11.729 -->
01:20:16.020After the Super Bowl, you're gonna say, Honey, we're watching some Samurai Pizza Cats.
01:20:16.239 -->
01:20:17.329I don't know where you would find it.
01:20:17.329 -->
01:20:24.029I'm sure there's some, like, 20 year old YouTube video uploaded of some, like, blurry 120p footage of it.
01:20:24.029 -->
01:20:25.310But, sir, you are missing out.
01:20:25.560 -->
01:20:26.619It has a great intro.
01:20:26.619 -->
01:20:30.039Even if you just watch the introductory, like, kind of title sequence, that's worth it.
01:20:30.050 -->
01:20:31.640I don't even remember anything else of that.
01:20:32.314 -->
01:20:33.305Yeah, that'll be your homework.
01:20:33.494 -->
01:20:45.774Then we're going to go into some actual Marvel snap from Ventus here, who says with how many cards are being added and with how many cards are being cut or not played, do you think that snap will eventually increase deck sizes or energy per turn?
01:20:46.034 -->
01:20:49.225I feel like it could eventually be necessary to keep cards relevant.
01:20:49.725 -->
01:20:52.824Yeah, I've given up hope on a deck size or no, sorry.
01:20:53.085 -->
01:20:54.135Deck size will never change.
01:20:54.185 -->
01:20:56.425I, I thought decks, You're talking deck slots.
01:20:56.465 -->
01:20:57.664Deck slots, I gave up hope on that.
01:20:57.664 -->
01:20:57.904That would
01:20:57.914 -->
01:21:00.274be an easy dub, just give us more deck slots for sure.
01:21:00.284 -->
01:21:00.314For
01:21:00.314 -->
01:21:03.614sure, yeah, I don't think they're gonna change the core fundamentals of the game.
01:21:04.520 -->
01:21:05.729Yeah, I actually agree with that.
01:21:05.760 -->
01:21:17.520Changing the enemy sorry, energy per turn or the deck size I think would be kind of crazy but that's not to say that you couldn't perhaps have a limited time game mode that modifies the deck building restrictions, right?
01:21:17.649 -->
01:21:21.340That's, that's, well, I mean, energy per turn is by voltage, right?
01:21:21.670 -->
01:21:24.609Changing the deck design for a game mode could be an interesting take.
01:21:24.800 -->
01:21:26.399Like, oh, we talked about commander before.
01:21:26.810 -->
01:21:32.859What if you were to make a 100, I mean, part of the commander is that everything's an individual one piece card, right?
01:21:32.869 -->
01:21:39.090It's a like each, but like snaps already that what if you had a 40 card deck with four,
01:21:39.560 -->
01:21:42.979I think even if they went up to 15, it would be a monster difference in the game.
01:21:42.989 -->
01:21:43.779Like, you know, I.
01:21:44.220 -->
01:21:49.840We'll think about snap is when you have 12, you know, you're able to really make a difference by just adding a few.
01:21:49.890 -->
01:21:55.060Think about how many decks, man, that if you could even add one more card, that whole deck is so different.
01:21:55.350 -->
01:21:58.630And so adding like three spots to a destroyed deck would be fascinating.
01:21:59.130 -->
01:22:00.210It would be, yeah, you're right.
01:22:00.239 -->
01:22:02.409And, but I mean, Hey, that's something for the future.
01:22:02.409 -->
01:22:05.930Limited time game mode with custom deck building considerations would be pretty cool.
01:22:06.604 -->
01:22:15.444Next question comes from Nicholas and it reads, Power creep has become a problem, but I think Cozy has the right idea that OTAs are a better solution than either rotation or power creep.
01:22:16.055 -->
01:22:18.984They should try to be more creative with early series cards.
01:22:18.994 -->
01:22:20.475For example, I think a Mr.
01:22:20.484 -->
01:22:24.595Fantastic buff would have been to have him give his power to adjacent locations.
01:22:24.595 -->
01:22:30.675His power might need to be adjusted accordingly, but then he has synergy with Surfer, Forge, Galacta, and etc.
01:22:30.734 -->
01:22:35.454He's not OP for early game players, and his power level scales as you advance your collection.
01:22:35.954 -->
01:22:40.885Yeah I, I, I don't understand the question.
01:22:41.045 -->
01:22:41.734So like, Mr.
01:22:41.734 -->
01:22:42.854Fantastic did get that buff though.
01:22:43.354 -->
01:22:44.045Yeah, essentially.
01:22:44.045 -->
01:22:54.145But what I think they're trying to hint at is that like, instead of having rotation or straight up power creep using OTAs as a method to kind of keep things in check is important.
01:22:54.314 -->
01:23:02.425But I think the major point that I found fascinating was the idea of like buffing early series cards that benefit from increasing your collection later on.
01:23:02.475 -->
01:23:02.625Oh,
01:23:02.625 -->
01:23:02.784okay.
01:23:02.784 -->
01:23:03.784Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:23:04.255 -->
01:23:06.984And I think, again, it's like taking those risks a little bit more.
01:23:07.220 -->
01:23:17.670Is what we highlighted last week and I think that that that is the core essence of how to keep power creep and check is, is risking some of the old designs a bit more and testing the waters.
01:23:18.050 -->
01:23:21.159We've seen them be able to, you know, take things back pretty quickly.
01:23:21.159 -->
01:23:23.279And it'd be, you know, I think that's the way to go.
01:23:23.779 -->
01:23:26.850And we have two more questions, both related to the MCU.
01:23:26.850 -->
01:23:27.939Cause cozy, you had brought it up.
01:23:28.220 -->
01:23:38.260We have one from Batman that says love and thunder was my biggest disappointment in the MCU, which is followed by Wolfsbane, who says I'm agreeing with cozy daredevil is awesome.
01:23:38.470 -->
01:23:39.680You, did you finish the movie?
01:23:40.630 -->
01:23:42.079I did, I did finish Love and Thunder.
01:23:42.149 -->
01:23:42.539What'd you think?
01:23:43.039 -->
01:23:45.039I thought it was better than everyone said it was.
01:23:45.229 -->
01:23:46.100But it wasn't good.
01:23:46.369 -->
01:23:48.510Like, I've seen good movies before, it wasn't that.
01:23:48.510 -->
01:23:49.210But it wasn't terrible.
01:23:49.359 -->
01:23:52.380People were talking about Love and Thunder like it was absolute garbage.
01:23:52.569 -->
01:23:55.090Like, people would be like, don't even watch it, like save your hour.
01:23:55.220 -->
01:23:57.210Like, just lay face down on the floor instead.
01:23:57.454 -->
01:23:59.335Like that was the way people were discussing it.
01:23:59.335 -->
01:24:00.354It was not that bad.
01:24:00.364 -->
01:24:01.335I've seen way worse.
01:24:01.505 -->
01:24:02.515I've seen movies.
01:24:03.125 -->
01:24:04.185Anybody Okay, listen.
01:24:04.185 -->
01:24:05.944My wife likes absolute garbage.
01:24:05.944 -->
01:24:11.135Her taste in movies is so bad, that like I can't even stomach the movies half the time.
01:24:11.354 -->
01:24:15.854Cause they're just like It's basically reality TV in movie form, and I can't do it.
01:24:15.864 -->
01:24:17.404She still watches Say Yes to the Dress.
01:24:17.404 -->
01:24:18.774We've been married since 2011.
01:24:18.979 -->
01:24:19.279Okay.
01:24:19.279 -->
01:24:21.390So this is the kind of content my wife consumes.
01:24:21.670 -->
01:24:23.979So like love and thunder for me was a blessing.
01:24:24.109 -->
01:24:29.340You know what I call those movies where it's like, they're not complete trash, but it's not a good movie or airplane movies.
01:24:29.510 -->
01:24:30.460You're on an airplane.
01:24:30.800 -->
01:24:31.720Great example, right?
01:24:31.720 -->
01:24:32.930You got nothing to do.
01:24:33.489 -->
01:24:34.779That's exactly where I watched.
01:24:35.539 -->
01:24:36.119Love and Thunder.
01:24:36.310 -->
01:24:36.729It was on an airplane.
01:24:36.739 -->
01:24:37.060Dude,
01:24:37.119 -->
01:24:39.420do you know what I watched on the flight to San Diego?
01:24:39.420 -->
01:24:40.760Cause it was a longer one for me.
01:24:40.899 -->
01:24:41.039Which
01:24:41.039 -->
01:24:41.250one?
01:24:41.960 -->
01:24:42.800Madam Web.
01:24:43.199 -->
01:24:43.720Oh,
01:24:43.789 -->
01:24:48.329that's a, and that's an air, I mean that's a, that's a long flight movie.
01:24:48.800 -->
01:24:49.819That's a, there's no other option.
01:24:49.819 -->
01:24:50.010Dude, I
01:24:50.010 -->
01:24:52.590was watching it, I was like, they can't be serious.
01:24:52.590 -->
01:24:53.529I don't most rather.
01:24:53.529 -->
01:24:54.369What is this, a high school
01:24:54.369 -->
01:24:54.810production?
01:24:54.880 -->
01:25:08.199Play those games you can play with other people on the airplane that are also playing them and it's like they're like Word search games and crossword games and I'd almost rather that than Madame Web, but I would put most of the newer phase in an airplane category.
01:25:08.975 -->
01:25:27.055You know, what sucked about Madam Web, my viewing experience is the guy in front of me had like, reclined his seat as far as he could, and the screen didn't tilt, so it just like, was kind of facing down a bit the whole time, like it was angled improperly, so I had to kind of like slouch to watch it like flat, so that made the, even, even then the movie just sucked.
01:25:27.274 -->
01:25:31.614That was so bad, I can't, that is by far the worst movie, and is that even MCU?
01:25:31.614 -->
01:25:33.465I don't know who the hell made that, that's a Sony one, isn't it?
01:25:33.625 -->
01:25:36.000You go from Spider Man to that, like what are we doing?
01:25:36.000 -->
01:25:40.010Dude, and then the CEO, I saw some article about it that he said that we were wrong.
01:25:40.250 -->
01:25:41.989That like, everyone's like, Oh, this movie is not bad.
01:25:41.989 -->
01:25:43.090You guys just have bad taste.
01:25:43.090 -->
01:25:44.760I'm like, bro, get out of here with that crap.
01:25:44.930 -->
01:25:46.399Like your movie is dog shit.
01:25:46.409 -->
01:25:49.630Don't tell me that I can't recognize that your movie sucks.
01:25:49.659 -->
01:25:50.020Oh my God.
01:25:50.050 -->
01:25:51.239There goes that sponsorship.
01:25:51.369 -->
01:25:53.500So anyways, daredevils next on my list, by the way,
01:25:53.590 -->
01:25:54.260Sydney Sweeney.
01:25:54.569 -->
01:25:55.789As part of that movie daredevil.
01:25:55.789 -->
01:25:56.039Yes.
01:25:56.079 -->
01:25:57.260You need to actually watch it though.
01:25:57.300 -->
01:25:57.710You'll love it.
01:25:57.720 -->
01:25:59.829Just watch the first episode by the next Snapchat.
01:25:59.850 -->
01:26:00.060Just.
01:26:00.494 -->
01:26:00.935It's okay.
01:26:00.994 -->
01:26:01.86430 minutes, 40 minutes.
01:26:02.125 -->
01:26:02.795That's my homework.
01:26:02.835 -->
01:26:03.395That's your homework.
01:26:04.064 -->
01:26:04.635That's my homework.
01:26:04.635 -->
01:26:06.265All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us.
01:26:06.395 -->
01:26:06.765And you know what?
01:26:06.784 -->
01:26:12.345If you want some homework to watch the first episode of daredevil, and we'll see you on that next Marvel Snapchat episode.
01:26:12.439 -->
01:26:13.658Guys, have a great week.
01:26:13.658 -->
01:26:14.998Hopefully you guys enjoyed listening today.
01:26:14.998 -->
01:26:17.118And as always, until the next one, happy snapping.