Magic, Personal Development, and the Illusion of Reality - with Anders Hansen

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Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode
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of the Rhodes Rediscovery. I'm your host, Aubrey
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Johnson. The Rhodes Rediscovery is about reflecting
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on life lessons to learn and grow from them,
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and of course, pay it forward and uplift others
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who are struggling through dark times. My special
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guest has revolutionized personal transformation
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by combining over 20 years of professional stage
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magic with world -class personal development,
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thus creating the award -winning Real Magic Live
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experience where a show meets a seminar. He's
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the CEO of Real Magic LLC and has helped over
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10 ,000 people, entrepreneurs and the like, breakthrough
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mental limitations and realize their true, true
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potential. Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome
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Mr. Anders Hansen to the show. Anders, welcome
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to the show. It's so great to have you here,
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sir. Thank you, Mr. Aubrey. I really appreciated
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the opportunity and thank you for all the great
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work you do. Oh, likewise. Thank you so much,
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sir. We are so excited to unpack this and for
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you to share some wonderful insights based on
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your journey, based on your expertise. We're
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just thrilled to have you, sir. So if you don't
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mind, I'm going to start kind of foundationally
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here. First off, can you share for the listeners,
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has magic been a childhood fascination? of yours?
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Or is that how it started? Absolutely, it has.
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But first, I really, again, want to commend you
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for what you're doing. And I love we're gonna
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be having a conversation around personal growth
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and how it ties into magic, something that you've
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been practicing as well as I learned in the past.
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So for everyone listening, do me a favor and
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do what I did today. Leave Aubrey a five star
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review for this great podcast that will enable
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him to get this message and these other great
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messages out further out into the world into
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the hands of people that need them. Uh, Anders,
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thank you so much for that. Very, very thoughtful.
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Um, very, very thoughtful. And, and, and, and
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I want to ask all the listeners who who's taken
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in this, this episode, um, to, to, to please,
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you know, um, give your undivided attention at
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these insights that Anders will share, because
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it sounds like from what we're going to talk
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about, a lot of this is very applicable. I would
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imagine from an entrepreneur mindset as well
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as a non -entrepreneur. Would that be accurate?
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That's absolutely accurate, Mr. Aubrey. So illusions,
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I practiced illusions for 20 years and I've learned
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that they cannot exist if there aren't assumptions
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in our lives. The more assumptions we have about
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life and our reality, the more illusions we can
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create. In fact, it's harder to perform magic
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for children than adults because children are
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not as programmed as we are they don't have that
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many assumptions about their reality at the older
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that we get the more assumptions we have and
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an illusionist greatest feed is to challenge
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the assumptions the difference between what.
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occurred in our assumptions about what was supposed
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to happen. And so the magic really doesn't happen
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in the hands of the magician. The magic happens
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in the minds of the audience. And, you know,
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in my world, when I was performing magic on cruise
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ships and television, and it wasn't magic at
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all, at least didn't feel like it, it was hard
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work, a lot of repetitions, light, sound. Choreography
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with the dancers and all of that. When the timing
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was perfect, the magic happened. Not on stage,
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not in my hands, in the minds of the audience.
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In fact, somebody that I learned from, Fred Alan
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Wolf, who's a quantum physicist, he was at one
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of my shows on a cruise ship and he said, it
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turned out we belonged to the same magic club
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in LA. And he said, magic is like reality. The
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magic doesn't happen until there's somebody there
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to perceive it. And it's much like reality on
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a quantum physicist. physical level. It takes
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the observer effect for reality to occur the
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way it does. And so that's really what it's about.
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Like what we do at our events at Real Magic Live,
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we've helped a lot of people uncover those unconscious
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blocks that they have because we are creating
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illusions all day long and we are our own greatest
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illusionist, sometimes not to our own benefit.
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I see. I see. So one of the things you mentioned
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there, Anders, that I found absolutely fascinating,
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and it's so obvious once you hear it from someone
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extraordinary such as yourself, is there's a
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dependency that the illusion or the act of magic
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has, and that's on the perception of the observer.
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And that right there is is where the magic happens
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in the eyes and the minds of the observer. Obviously,
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there are some other elements that take place
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there, such as timing and so forth. I want to
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ask this, and thank you, by the way, for the
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clarification on children. Their minds aren't
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developed yet to draw certain conclusions and
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assumptions like an adult, so it may be easier
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to pull something on an adult versus versus a
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child. Yeah. So. All right. So we talked about
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magic and illusion. It almost sounds like they
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can be two of the same. Your purse. I mean, it's
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a perception on the on the basis of the observer
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of what that is. Their mind's drawn an assumption
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and so forth. So I want to talk. I want to get
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to the quantum leap. goal creation process. But
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before we do that, um, I wanted to, to, to ask,
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um, because all efforts start with where you
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are internally. Okay. Um, from your mindset to
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self -esteem and every, everything in between,
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um, can you give us some, some insights in, um,
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what's called the, I guess what you call the
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self image blueprint and and the work that needs
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to be done there. Is that a foundation or a basis
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of personal development? Well, absolutely. That's
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a great question. And I believe there's really
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three pillars when it comes to personal development
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and for us to create great quantum leap results.
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And we can get back to what a quantum leap is.
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But it's really understanding there's infinite
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potential potentiality in us and around us and
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a quantum leap is the movement that a particle
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undertakes in moving from one position to the
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other without any apparent effort. It can make
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huge jumps and leaps and we can do the same thing
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if we learn to think like a magician when Bob
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Proctor, my great friend and you know, late mentor,
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when he was still here in a physical plane, he
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was the only person in 20 years that asked me
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this question. He said, Anders, how do you create
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an illusion? And for the first time, I had to
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articulate the process behind it. And I told
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him for me to create an illusion, I have to go
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as far as I can in my mind, I have to go to a
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very impossible place such as predicting the
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lottery numbers, which I did on live television,
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or making a car appear live on stage, or make
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somebody float, or making something disappear,
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or I have to go to that impossible place. I need
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to log into it. And then I need to work my way
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backwards until it's been achieved. And he said,
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that is the exact formula I've used to teach
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millions of people to create quantum leap results
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in their lives. working backwards from where
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we want to be as opposed to forwards. Most people
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look at precedent or current results and they
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let that dictate their way of thinking. But going
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the other way is when you see how an entrepreneur
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goes 10x in a year, which we've done multiple
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times. We've helped a lot of people do it. It's
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how you see a person go from diagnosis to complete
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health. Like we help them latch on to that potentiality
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which exists in the quantum field. and then help
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them adopt the personality. So the first pillar
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is the goal, is the quantum leap goal. Now the
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personality comes into play. We got to look at
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the self image like you honed in on, which is
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our emotional conception of ourselves. And it
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was actually, it was when Dr. Maxwell Maltz came
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up with the concept back in 1967, he postulated
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that we have two images. We have the internal
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cellular self -image that's locked up in every
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cell of our body and our subjective mind. And
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then we have the outer self -image, the one we
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project to the world. Now, he said you can't
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outperform that inner self -image. We can only
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perform up to the limits of what our self -image
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allows. That's the bad news. We can't outperform
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it. But the good news is we can change it. And
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it's our emotional conception of ourselves. Most
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people think they are their past, they are their
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parents' story, or it's all locked up in our
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DNA. change that, you see that potentiality come
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to the surface and really unleash itself in extraordinary
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results. And the third pillar is really understanding
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universal law and how to align your mind and
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your actions with the laws that governs this
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universe. With those three pillars in place,
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I believe we're all positioned very well to create
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an extraordinary life and we all deserve it.
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You know, we're not here to lead based on needs.
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We're here to lead based on wants. We're created
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in the image of our creator. And the problem
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is we created our creator in our image, so we
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turn it into a guy in the sky. So we're here
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to create. We're here to create better, greater,
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richer, freer, healthier, whatever it is we desire.
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But going backwards from what we truly desire,
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that's when the real magic happens. And that's
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what Bob said. When you know the trick, when
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you understand the magic trick, it's not magic
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anymore. more. But when you understand life and
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your mind, and how to utilize your mind, that's
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real magic. And that's what I built my concept
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around. I see. So in this quantum leap goal creation
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process. And I think you alluded to it in your
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clarification there, Anders. That sounds like
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your description of I'm thinking of the illusion
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of reality to me. I mean, at face value, it sounds
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like an oxymoron, right? The illusion of reality.
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But it sounds like you clarified it, I think,
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at least as far as maybe there's a piece that
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I'm missing here. But in the illusion of reality,
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is there something that that in your work, that
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you help someone, say a client, kind of realize
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their reality or whatever preconceived notions
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they have from generations or maybe limited beliefs.
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They're considering that their reality, but is
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that really an illusion? Because they can they
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can receive so much more. Absolutely. So I love
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your question. And it actually fits perfectly
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with the title of your podcast, the road to rediscovery,
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because I think that's our biggest job as human
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beings. It's actually rediscovering who we are.
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And that is the first step. We think we are the
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physical bodies that we run around in. That's
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not who we are at all. That's the physical instrument.
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We're a spiritual being that lives in a body
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and we're gifted with an intellect. So we're
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actually a try human being, I I believe that
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starts with the understanding, our journey starts
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with the understanding of that. So instead of
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us seeing ourselves as physical beings, who's
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sometimes having a spiritual experience, we should
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look at ourselves as spiritual beings who actually
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has a physical experience. And so those moments
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when we feel really inspired, we have that spiritual
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spark. That's just because we allow ourselves
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to get in close touch with who we really are
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so i think it starts with a foundational understanding
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that the energy that we represent. Expresses
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itself with and through the mind and the body
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now this diagram which is a diagram that but
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proctor introduced to me which was invented by
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the late doctor thurman fleet back in. 1934 he
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was a chiropractor and he realized that we're
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treating symptoms in people's lives in our businesses
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at all levels because we're not understanding
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who we are so we made this diagram and when bob
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introduced it to me i thought it was silly he
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said this diagram has changed millions of lives
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billions of dollars in revenue and companies
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He said the big circle is the mind, the small
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circle is your body. Mind is proportionally bigger
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than the body. Mind cannot be contained even
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in the brain. The brain belongs to the body,
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but mind is energy. And so mind expresses itself
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with and through the body, but it's movement.
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We have the conscious mind, the subconscious
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mind and the body. And here we are trying to
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change results on a physical plane, whether it
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be health or freedom. or higher income or whatever
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it might be. But we're trying to treat a symptom.
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Most people ask themselves, what should I do
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to get better results? Well, that's the wrong
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premise. The better way to ask is what do I need
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to think on a conscious level? Who do I need
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to be on a subjective level, self -image level?
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When I change this and this, the instrument,
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the body feels different. And the vibration we're
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in dictates our actions. And now we're creating
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different results. Effortless and that's when
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we see people create quantum leaves in a relatively
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short amount of time without rushing. And that's
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the key so it's really rediscovering who we are
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from a spiritual from a mental and physical perspective
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so if you imagine horizontal lines just a lot
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of horizontal lines we have the spiritual side
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of us above. That's the energetic side it's everywhere
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omnipresent there's no place in the universe
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where spirit isn't present it's everywhere. And
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the more you study quantum physics, the more
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you realize that consciousness is the foundation
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for the reality that we perceive with our senses.
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But that is the limitation because we've been
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brought up in a very physical world. So there's
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the spiritual energetic side. There's the mental
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side in the middle where ideas are being created
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in our mind. And then we turn those ideas into
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physical results on a physical plane. That's
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the lowest grossest part of our reality, the
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physical matter where the physical body belongs.
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We have been equipped with senses so we can correspond
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and communicate with the physical world and those
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are such a great benefit and we need to utilize
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them. But most people live there exclusively.
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That's why they're in this fight and flight state.
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They react through their senses constantly. Yes,
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we need to shut that down a little bit and go
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the other way. And that is when we get in tune
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with who we really are. And that's where infinite
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potential resides. That's how you see these massive
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transformations in people. They learn to utilize
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their mind to go to the energetic side as opposed
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to utilizing their mind going to the physical
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side. So that is I know that was a long answer,
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but I feel it's warranted because the illusions
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they start building and building and building
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because we almost exclusively correspond and
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communicate with the physical world. Aubrey,
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if your audience needs to take one thing away
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from this, I hope it's this. The physical is
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not where things are. It's where things end up
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as a result of a thought or an idea. It's transmutation
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of energy from spirit to physical form back to
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spirit. That's the perpetual transmutation of
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energy. It's a primary law of the universe. Right.
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But if I exclusively relate myself to everything
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that's in my physical world, I'll probably always
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be disappointed. I need to accept that's where
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things show up and that's not where things are.
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Right. Oh, for sure. I mean, you are introducing
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and suggesting a very a very profound value statement
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here. And what I mean by that is one of the things
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I heard you mention, Anders is, you know, considering,
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considering being spiritual beings, having a
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physical experience versus a physical being and
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having or chasing a spiritual experience and,
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and, and being Consuming everything in the physical
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realm will lead us to disappointment. And disenfranchised.
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It leads to division. It leads to me here, you
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there, to perceived differences. We're all the
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same. We're all an offspring of a deathless soul
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that is infinite. expressing itself in different
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bodies, different ages, different genders. I
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mean, that's all different, but that's just the
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physical. It's such a tiny piece and part of
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who we are. Wow. And since it is such a tiny
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piece of who we are, and a lot of us are just
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100 % consumed and living in that physical realm,
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there's where your limitations are. That's when
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the illusions show up, correct? When I lived
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in Denmark, I was broke, I was sick, I was unhappy,
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I was everything I didn't want to be. And I had
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a dream of living in the United States. packed
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up my bags, sold everything I had and what I
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couldn't sell, I gave away. And I jumped on a
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plane in 2006 and I never looked back. I was
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buried in a world of illusions. I thought I was
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the flat screen TV on the wall, the job, the
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furniture, the prestige, the shows we did in
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entertainment with my magic shows. I thought
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I was so identified with all the physical illusions.
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And when I moved, I lost everything. I mean,
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everything. I arrived here with two suitcases
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and a deck of cards. And I started performing
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magic for tips. Yeah. And then I got my visa
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approved and I got my working visa approved.
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And it was some of the happiest days of my life
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because even though I didn't have anything, you
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know, twenty dollars a night was a good night
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for me. I was able to afford a Chipotle bowl
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on a Sunday, which was my reward. You know, that
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was yeah. Yeah. Now I get some protein on Sunday.
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That was like my big win. And but, you know,
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I realized I was so happy because I had lost
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the illusions. What was? what was left was space
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to create from and to build something real. And
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that's what I did. I rebuilt my life here, rebuilt
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my life in entertainment. And now, you know,
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after having had the great fortune of partnering
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with Bob Proctor back in 2017, you know, built
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a company, we've helped 10 ,000 people and I
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know the beginning, but it really started with
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all the illusions crumbling and falling away.
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I was so buried in the limitations. And today,
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if I lost everything tomorrow, God forbid, I
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wouldn't be afraid because I know that all the
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physical stuff is just stuff. At the end of the
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day, we're already rich. Most people are just
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a little short of cash, you know, we are rich
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in resources, we have six mental tools that can
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enable us to tab into a world completely foreign
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to our senses, that world will enable will enable
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us to achieve attain everything that our hearts
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desire. But we got to go that way in that order,
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upside down, inside out, always from the higher
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to the lower potential. That's how electricity
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moves. That's how we should move to. Fascinating.
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And I mean, with with us being energy, the spiritual
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sense being energy, I mean, you know, the energy
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within our minds, way larger than the brain can,
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you know, the capacity of our brain, right? I
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mean, energy, electricity is energy, right? So
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in a certain sense, I mean, you know, we want
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to go in the same direction as electricity, because
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our minds are energy and energy. Electricity
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is energy. Exactly. And energy is omnipresent.
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Energy is the foundation for the universe that
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we live in. And you can't say anything other
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than energy is. It just is. If you ask a theologian,
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they will say God is. You can't create God. You
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can't destroy God. God is everywhere at the same
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time. If that theologians words, if you ask a
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quantum physicist, a quantum physicist will tell
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you that energy is omnipresent. You can't destroy
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energy. You can't create energy. The only thing
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you can do is transmute energy. And so really
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theology and science are talking about the same
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thing. One side is studying the main cause and
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the other side is studying the effect of that
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cause. They're looking at the same thing. Yeah.
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Yeah. Wow. Incredible. Incredible. I mean, it's
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the same thing they're looking at. You're saying
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just different perceptions of the same different
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perceptions. My goodness. Well, well, speaking
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of I want to talk about briefly, Anders, the
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the subconscious state or the the unconscious
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state. OK. In working in you working with your
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mentor with you early on, bringing magic and
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illusion to the table. and then your mentor being
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an expert in personal development, personal growth,
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and so forth, putting those together to make
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this wonderful organization. Is there some alignment
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between illusion, magic, and personal growth
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from a subconscious state in working with your
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clients. I mean, I can't help but think there's
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a subconscious state that someone is perceiving
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or observing, but may not actively know it when
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they are observing magic or an illusion. And
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then of course, to work, I would imagine to work
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with someone from personal development, you may
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have to go to that subconscious state to kind
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of bubble up those limiting beliefs and so forth.
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Is there some alignment between Oh, absolutely.
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You know, magic really enables. There's three
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ways Mr. Aubrey to get an idea interest person
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subconscious mind. There's only three ways. Fascination,
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agreement or shock. There's only three ways.
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Now, we rule out shock. So there's fascination
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and agreement left. Magic fascinates the mind.
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Magic, in fact, makes this part of the mind,
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the top part, the conscious mind, stop for a
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moment. In the moment of what the heck happened,
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the conscious mind shuts down and it leaves the
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subjective wide open to impression. So if you
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at that point introduce an idea or a concept
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that's valuable, it sticks to a point where the
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person cannot forget about it, even if they tried.
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And that is why magic at RealMagic Live is so
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powerful because we make agreement with the concepts
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taught, and we fascinate the mind to open up
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the mind to a different way of thinking. As an
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example, now if you're listening to this on a
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podcast, I encourage you to go over and find
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Mr. Aubrey's YouTube channel, because then you'll
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be able to see this on the screen. It's an illustration
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of what I just talked about. But if you are still
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listening to this, just fast forward a minute
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or two. On this page or side of the domino brick,
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you see one dot, correct? Yes. On this side you
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see four dots. Here you see now three dots and
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now all of a sudden you see six. It's a multi
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-dimensional domino brick. I'm going to explain
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to you how it works. So our mind needs closure.
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So our mind creates patterns in our environment,
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good and bad, and in between. Our mind needs
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that closure. So it will sometimes make up a
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story to finish the pattern. Let me try one more
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time. First you saw one dot, then you saw four.
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You saw three all of a sudden and now you saw
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six. Now on this side, that was what you saw
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last time. You saw either one dot or you saw
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three dots. Your mind never saw this pattern
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before so you didn't see it. You didn't make
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the story up in your head so you see illusion
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happened in your mind where you computed something
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that wasn't true. This didn't change, but your
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perception changed. Right. And at my age, my
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mind is developed enough to draw those conclusions.
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Exactly. Domino breaks many times. You've seen
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patterns of domino breaks many times. You make
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the correlation, you make the pattern, you make
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the conclusion. And when it breaks, that's when
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the illusion happens. And that's when you go,
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wait, what happened? And I, at that moment goes,
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your mind finished the pattern. You won't forget
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about it even if you try it. Now, the same thing
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holds true on this side. Of course, you saw six
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dots or you saw four dots. Your mind never seen
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this pattern before. Oh my gosh. Yes. Yes. Extraordinary.
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At Real Magic Live, our job is to keep challenging
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those perceptions, Mr. Aubrey. And if I have
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done that correctly at this point, you will now
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see three dots on this side. And you will now
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see eight dots on the. Oh, come on. My goodness.
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OK. So that's the next level right there. That's
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challenging my perceptions for what you show.
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Yeah. After explaining the initial domino bricks
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you show. Exactly. And I have to listen at the
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same time. Mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing.
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And in your teachings with your clients. You're
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applying this to their way of thinking in what
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beliefs they're giving, they're telling themselves,
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their narrative, their story. What they feel
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defines them, whether it's having a sense of
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the position of the victim or just some sort
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of situation where they feel that, uh, nothing
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good ever comes to them or they're not, uh, they're
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not worthy or capable of things. Amazing. Exactly.
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So we basically use magic and real magic live
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to remove those boundaries. Now, that's the experience.
00:29:53.740 --> 00:29:56.359
That's the three day experience in my online
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.160
programs and coaching. We don't use magic to
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that extent, but we do that in the live experience.
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.880
Because when you're live, it creates a different
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.539
energy. And that's when magic really amplifies
00:30:10.539 --> 00:30:13.099
the perceptions of people. And I would bring
00:30:13.099 --> 00:30:14.900
people on stage and have them participate in
00:30:14.900 --> 00:30:18.079
certain things. In fact, when we talk about magic
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.640
or, excuse me, energy and connection, last event
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.799
we did, I brought a couple on stage and I had
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.319
them stand on stage, but about maybe 20 feet
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:32.880
apart. And I had the lady closer, excuse me,
00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:35.440
I had the gentleman close his eyes and I would...
00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:37.730
go over to the lady, touch her nose, touch her
00:30:37.730 --> 00:30:41.349
shoulder, touch her arm. I would ask the gentleman
00:30:41.349 --> 00:30:43.329
if he felt it, and he would point to his nose,
00:30:43.430 --> 00:30:44.589
he would point to his shoulder, he would point
00:30:44.589 --> 00:30:47.390
to his arms, he would feel the imprint that I
00:30:47.390 --> 00:30:49.430
made on the lady, illustrating how we're all
00:30:49.430 --> 00:30:51.789
connected. And people in longer term relationships
00:30:51.789 --> 00:30:57.049
have formed those subjective bonds. If you know
00:30:57.049 --> 00:30:59.589
somebody that well, you can feel each other at
00:30:59.589 --> 00:31:01.829
vast distances. Of course, I utilize an illusion
00:31:01.829 --> 00:31:05.000
to get the point across. but energy is omnipresent.
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:08.059
So the thoughts we think, the emotions we experience,
00:31:08.259 --> 00:31:10.700
we literally affect the whole universe with our
00:31:10.700 --> 00:31:14.559
state. And so when we talk about energy and magic,
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.319
it almost seems like it's real magic, which is
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.140
obviously the name of my company. But when you
00:31:22.140 --> 00:31:26.160
create those moments of attracting an opportunity
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.539
that you only saw in your mind, but you know
00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:32.450
that what you experienced on a physical plane
00:31:32.450 --> 00:31:35.769
was an expression of that idea. That's very powerful.
00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:38.890
And some people do it on a microscopic level.
00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:42.230
They manifest in this next parking spot or they
00:31:42.230 --> 00:31:45.910
do that stuff. But how about going for the 10x
00:31:45.910 --> 00:31:48.690
quantum leap in life? How about really setting
00:31:48.690 --> 00:31:52.029
our sights on something that is worthy of us?
00:31:52.329 --> 00:31:55.329
Because the truth is we're exchanging our life
00:31:55.329 --> 00:31:57.529
for what we're getting out of bed for in the
00:31:57.529 --> 00:32:00.359
morning. believe we should make sure that what
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.420
we're getting up for tomorrow is worth trading
00:32:02.420 --> 00:32:05.319
our life for because we are doing that regardless.
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.980
So yeah, it comes with, you know, it's a great,
00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:11.920
it's a deeper understanding of the mind and it
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.460
comes with greater responsibility as I see it.
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.539
Amazing. So this may sound cliche, Anders, but
00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:21.119
is it safe to say that, you know, someone having
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.440
gone through this experience now has a more,
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.240
for lack of a better term, open -minded perception,
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.740
open -minded perspective on any type of event
00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:37.940
or any type of circumstance that they may encounter
00:32:37.940 --> 00:32:42.579
from this point forward. Whatever comprehensive
00:32:42.579 --> 00:32:50.019
work you do with the client or clients, they're
00:32:50.019 --> 00:32:53.220
kind of... Is it fair to say rewired in their
00:32:53.220 --> 00:32:55.960
thinking? Absolutely. That's what we help them
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.140
do, but we're not doing it to them. I think that's
00:32:58.140 --> 00:33:00.220
really important to understand. We're helping
00:33:00.220 --> 00:33:04.319
them rewire their own thinking. And that's how
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.839
many of them describe that it feels like. Some
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.380
people say that it feels like the blindfolds
00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:13.819
are finally coming off and that they're able
00:33:13.819 --> 00:33:16.279
to chart a new course and then sticking to it.
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.380
But I don't believe in motivation. I believe
00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:22.390
in... education or experiential education to
00:33:22.390 --> 00:33:25.269
a point where you can motivate, inspire, and
00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:27.109
transform your life through the rest of your
00:33:27.109 --> 00:33:29.589
life. And that's what the event is built up around.
00:33:29.769 --> 00:33:32.789
So it's essentially three phases based on Napoleon
00:33:32.789 --> 00:33:36.829
Hill's original work, where he said that what
00:33:36.829 --> 00:33:39.910
the mind of man can create and believe they can
00:33:39.910 --> 00:33:42.829
achieve. So it starts with creating something
00:33:42.829 --> 00:33:46.079
that's worthy of us. It's Next step is really
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.220
learning how to get rid of the fear, adopting
00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:51.160
the self image that is in harmony with what we're
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.220
looking to go and then learning to receive it
00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:57.900
on a physical plane. And like I said before,
00:33:58.180 --> 00:34:00.240
understanding the universal laws that enables
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.259
us to bring it into our life. But yes, it's a
00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:06.819
literal rewiring. turning everything upside down,
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.039
basically, from what we've been taught. You know,
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.239
we've been taught that, you know, imagination
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:13.360
is for kids, but it's where everything begins,
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.000
you know, so we're the older we get, it can be
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.980
more challenging to rewire. Yeah, things are
00:34:18.980 --> 00:34:21.199
hardwired to think a certain way now. Sure, but
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.159
it's not impossible. I mean, we've seen great
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.719
results happen. We had a business owner not too
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.139
long ago. She went from 100 ,000 a month to over
00:34:29.139 --> 00:34:32.920
a million in a month in about two years. and
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.659
created complete freedom in her life after years
00:34:36.659 --> 00:34:40.199
and years of a very poor self -image and a past
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:43.079
that really wasn't conducive to great results.
00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:48.320
We had somebody with PTSD diagnoses and very
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:52.179
poor health to all of a sudden expressing complete...
00:34:52.329 --> 00:34:54.909
perfect health and blood tests were all fine
00:34:54.909 --> 00:34:58.909
again. And, and so yes, it's it is a rewiring,
00:34:58.929 --> 00:35:01.650
but it can absolutely be done. And, and again,
00:35:01.650 --> 00:35:04.090
you know, it's not going backwards looking at
00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:06.429
what happened and what's wrong. It's working
00:35:06.429 --> 00:35:10.469
backwards from a better future. I see. Absolutely
00:35:10.469 --> 00:35:13.090
extraordinary, Anders. I mean, you know, I'm
00:35:13.090 --> 00:35:17.090
hearing that one thing that kind of piqued my
00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:20.269
interest in what you just mentioned here. about
00:35:20.269 --> 00:35:22.670
not believing in motivation. It sounds like motivation
00:35:22.670 --> 00:35:27.489
is self -inflicted or self, not inflicted, but
00:35:27.489 --> 00:35:30.630
self -sparked, if you will. I mean, you provide
00:35:30.630 --> 00:35:36.110
the information, you provide the methods, the
00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:40.590
tools, and then the motivation comes from the
00:35:40.590 --> 00:35:44.829
self choosing to be motivated from whatever they're
00:35:44.829 --> 00:35:49.590
receiving. Sounds like. Yeah, what we're trying
00:35:49.590 --> 00:35:52.929
or attempting to do is educating a person long
00:35:52.929 --> 00:35:56.590
enough so that they set and in a way that's different.
00:35:57.010 --> 00:36:00.289
So I believe in edutainment. It has to be entertaining
00:36:00.289 --> 00:36:03.349
and educational at the same time. Yes. And when
00:36:03.349 --> 00:36:06.329
it is, the mind accepts ideas a little easier.
00:36:06.690 --> 00:36:09.269
You know, your biggest teacher could be a comedian.
00:36:09.510 --> 00:36:12.230
It could be a musician. We find great inspiration
00:36:12.230 --> 00:36:14.909
and motivation in music. We find great teachings
00:36:14.909 --> 00:36:19.300
in poetry. Magic can do the same thing, but it
00:36:19.300 --> 00:36:22.380
has to have a deeper element of education too,
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.719
because once you truly understand the importance
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.079
of setting goals and how to set the right goals
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:31.380
and how to auto suggest your way to that goal
00:36:31.380 --> 00:36:36.119
by continuously integrating that goal in your
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:42.400
subjective mind, motivation will come in bigger
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.860
volume and increasing frequency. But motivation
00:36:46.860 --> 00:36:52.559
is a very short -lived experience. We can let
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.940
ourselves be motivated by a YouTube video or
00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:56.559
a piece of music, like I said, or something else.
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:59.099
But it's very short -lived. And if there is no
00:36:59.099 --> 00:37:03.960
education first, then it won't stick. We'll go
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.079
right back to where we were. And so when people
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.159
say, well, Anders, you're so inspirational. I
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.500
love watching your videos. I appreciate it. But
00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:16.420
what I really want them to do is stick to the
00:37:16.420 --> 00:37:19.440
things that will educate them in the videos long
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.860
enough for them to integrate it themselves, because
00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:24.659
then they can motivate themselves for the rest
00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:27.039
of their lives. And Ms. Aubrey, there's a three
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.659
-step process to it. There's the state change.
00:37:29.659 --> 00:37:31.599
We have to change the way we think and feel.
00:37:31.860 --> 00:37:34.320
Then there's the story that we tell ourselves,
00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:37.159
the self -image. And then there's the things
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.940
that we have to act on, the strategies and things.
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.420
But that's the third part of the puzzle. Most
00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.539
people go straight to the strategy. In fact,
00:37:46.539 --> 00:37:48.320
we're in the middle of a virtual training this
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.760
week and a lot of people go, what do I need to
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.719
do to get better results? Well, you can have
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.619
a thousand people that's doing the same thing.
00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:57.760
The one person that is doing the thing in a different
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.000
state with the right story, they'll ace it. Yes.
00:38:01.539 --> 00:38:04.559
But the other 999, they can do the same thing
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.420
being in a crappy vibration, have a negative
00:38:08.420 --> 00:38:10.260
story about themselves and they'll never get
00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:12.840
very far. So that's why this all blends together.
00:38:13.500 --> 00:38:16.710
I see. Wow. You know, one thing you mentioned
00:38:16.710 --> 00:38:18.989
that's very similar to what we say here on the
00:38:18.989 --> 00:38:23.150
Rhodes rediscovery, you know, we say that motivation
00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:26.469
ignites the engine, discipline keeps it running.
00:38:26.829 --> 00:38:28.889
That's absolutely right. That's absolutely correct.
00:38:29.329 --> 00:38:31.329
And discipline is a very misunderstood word as
00:38:31.329 --> 00:38:34.750
well. You know, it's there's really seven levels
00:38:34.750 --> 00:38:38.610
to the human awakening towards mastering their
00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:41.489
life. And discipline is the fifth out of the
00:38:41.489 --> 00:38:44.780
seventh level. But discipline is not something
00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:50.780
that's being pushed on us. It's the choice that
00:38:50.780 --> 00:38:55.519
we make in giving ourselves commands and following
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:02.480
our own word. It's actually just decreasing the
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.500
gap between what we say and what we do. And so
00:39:05.500 --> 00:39:07.059
most people think they learn discipline in the
00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:10.849
military. for the most part, I guess, capital
00:39:10.849 --> 00:39:15.849
punishment for a lot of people. Discipline is
00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:18.190
just something we choose, but we need to have
00:39:18.190 --> 00:39:20.989
a great, beautiful goal back of it. Otherwise,
00:39:21.030 --> 00:39:23.510
we won't choose the discipline. Anders, I have
00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:26.190
to really, really thank you for that clarification
00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:29.769
for the sake of the listeners. Because again,
00:39:29.889 --> 00:39:33.269
at face value, when people hear discipline, they're
00:39:33.269 --> 00:39:36.469
hearing what one person does to another, whether
00:39:36.469 --> 00:39:39.400
it's a parent to a child. or a drill sergeant
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.619
to a private. And that is not anywhere near what
00:39:42.619 --> 00:39:45.300
we're talking about. We are talking about self
00:39:45.300 --> 00:39:49.159
-awareness. We're talking about guidelines and
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:55.159
goals and a plan and a consistency, a sense of
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.860
consistency in the right direction that we are
00:39:57.860 --> 00:40:00.619
giving ourselves, that we're holding ourselves
00:40:00.619 --> 00:40:03.579
accountable to. That's the discipline that we're
00:40:03.579 --> 00:40:06.860
talking about. That's exactly it. And it's actually
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.250
It's something that you're being called to. almost
00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:14.010
like your goal is pulling you forward. So you're
00:40:14.010 --> 00:40:17.510
called to be a more disciplined person. But if
00:40:17.510 --> 00:40:20.090
you look inside a car, if a person is very messy,
00:40:20.250 --> 00:40:22.369
their room is messy, their house is messy, crap
00:40:22.369 --> 00:40:24.969
everywhere, they're extremely undisciplined with
00:40:24.969 --> 00:40:26.809
their thinking and they won't get very far in
00:40:26.809 --> 00:40:29.469
life. But a person who is disciplined in their
00:40:29.469 --> 00:40:32.070
thinking and their behavior, what they say is
00:40:32.070 --> 00:40:34.130
what they do, what they do is what they say.
00:40:34.969 --> 00:40:37.010
They're good at giving themselves a command and
00:40:37.010 --> 00:40:39.349
following it. So when I say, and I'm not going
00:40:39.349 --> 00:40:41.039
to hit this button tomorrow. I'm actually going
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:45.019
to get up at this time. I'll do it. It's not
00:40:45.019 --> 00:40:47.260
easy. And I'm just practicing for a long time,
00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:49.559
but I'm getting, I'm much more disciplined in
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.159
my life today than I used to be. I do my gratitude
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:56.780
every day. I'm on day 2189 in a row of my gratitude.
00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.960
I won't skip it because it's part of my discipline.
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.420
Like it's the days when I know I don't feel like
00:41:02.420 --> 00:41:04.719
it, my discipline keeps me going, like you say.
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.340
And the discipline eventually will make you feel
00:41:07.340 --> 00:41:08.820
like it again. And then we're in a good spot.
00:41:09.179 --> 00:41:12.420
Oh, we're in a great spot for sure, because you
00:41:12.420 --> 00:41:15.480
get to a point where you can't imagine a day
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.480
without it. Exactly. Whatever it may be, mindful
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:22.639
breathing, meditation, gratitude session, right?
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:27.300
Yeah, those things are very, very important.
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:33.860
And it's that in which we mean by discipline.
00:41:34.300 --> 00:41:37.619
So that's a huge clarification. I'm so glad.
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.019
you were able to articulate for the listeners,
00:41:40.300 --> 00:41:44.280
Anders. And I wanted to know, what are your thoughts?
00:41:45.179 --> 00:41:47.360
I'm going to bring this up because it's the latest
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.340
and greatest that everyone's talking about these
00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:51.820
days. And everyone's trying to get a piece of
00:41:51.820 --> 00:41:55.400
the of what I'm going to call the AI pie. But
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.119
what are your thoughts on AI? Because to me,
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:04.500
AI, there is some capacity of illusion in AI.
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:12.179
There's some capacity of Just again, what your
00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:18.639
subconscious perceives or observes and is AI
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:22.159
in a place or are we in a place as a people to
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:28.840
where we can leverage some advantages or benefits
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:33.000
of AI without compromising who we are, our integrity
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:35.820
and authenticity. Absolutely, it's a great question
00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:39.679
and there's multiple things I have a take on
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.500
when it comes to AI. There's the overall trust
00:42:44.500 --> 00:42:47.599
recession that it creates because we don't even
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.619
know today if what you're looking at is real
00:42:49.619 --> 00:42:53.500
or not. The laws haven't really caught up to
00:42:53.500 --> 00:42:55.940
the development of AI, but I do believe that
00:42:55.940 --> 00:42:58.320
we will see that soon. YouTube has started punishing
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.699
AI -created content and is rewarding human -created
00:43:01.699 --> 00:43:04.940
content, and I think we'll see that catch up.
00:43:05.619 --> 00:43:11.239
When we look at value as a person to the world,
00:43:11.579 --> 00:43:15.800
there's really four value levels, so to say.
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.579
There's the implementation level of value where
00:43:18.579 --> 00:43:23.269
you're being paid for some work that you're implementing.
00:43:24.389 --> 00:43:27.630
So let's say our housekeeper here, she gets paid
00:43:27.630 --> 00:43:32.409
for a day to come and clean and tidy up. That's
00:43:32.409 --> 00:43:36.190
hard implementation work. Well, I don't believe
00:43:36.190 --> 00:43:41.150
that maybe for another year or two, but in the
00:43:41.150 --> 00:43:44.130
very near future, we will have optimus robots
00:43:44.130 --> 00:43:48.449
that can take care of almost all chores. So those
00:43:48.449 --> 00:43:52.250
people will be out of a job if they don't educate
00:43:52.250 --> 00:43:55.829
and develop themselves. Now, the next value level
00:43:55.829 --> 00:43:58.110
is sort of where we have our middle managers.
00:43:58.110 --> 00:44:00.289
They're being paid a little more to manage other
00:44:00.289 --> 00:44:04.309
people. That's where we have our really bright
00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:07.090
people who've taken all the courses, gone to
00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:10.610
university. They have the PhDs. We have our lawyers
00:44:10.610 --> 00:44:14.650
here and those folks. Well, they are at risk
00:44:14.650 --> 00:44:17.449
of losing their jobs too. because artificial
00:44:17.449 --> 00:44:20.110
intelligence will replace a lot of people in
00:44:20.110 --> 00:44:25.489
that bracket. Now, the second highest value level
00:44:25.489 --> 00:44:28.110
is communication. That's what we're doing here.
00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:32.269
At the end of the day, human beings like to communicate
00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:34.690
with other human beings. It's something that's
00:44:34.690 --> 00:44:37.389
ingrained in us. We, thousands of years ago,
00:44:37.570 --> 00:44:39.769
sat around the fireplace and told stories and
00:44:39.769 --> 00:44:43.800
we're still fascinated by storytelling that moves
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:48.239
us. So human beings have this innate need to
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.880
be heard and hear and learn and communicate with
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.099
other human beings. That need is never going
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to go away. So if we build this skill set for
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communication, that's where the really great
00:45:01.860 --> 00:45:04.719
salespeople live on that level as well. The great
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communicators, the personal brands, the salespeople,
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:12.539
people who are artists to a large extent lives
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on the second value level. We will always appreciate
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human art. A lot of studies have been made when
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you have an AI fan go paint a picture. I mean,
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there is no value in it because you can get any
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AI to do this picture at this point. But you
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have a human that paints like that. We always
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will admire, I believe. And then we have the
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very highest value level, which is pure imagination
00:45:36.619 --> 00:45:39.420
where we use our ideas and our money to generate
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more. The point is that the two lowest, the strategists,
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.239
the information, salespeople that have been able
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to sell their information and all their great
00:45:50.739 --> 00:45:54.380
strategies, they probably won't have a job in
00:45:54.380 --> 00:45:56.719
the next 20 years. The people that are working
00:45:56.719 --> 00:46:00.900
very hard at implementing physical labor, probably
00:46:00.900 --> 00:46:04.360
not either. But I believe the world is moving
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into a place where spiritual awakening, personal
00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:10.469
development, humans interacting with other humans,
00:46:10.909 --> 00:46:14.869
helping other humans become better humans, that
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will never go away. And so I think in the world
00:46:19.349 --> 00:46:21.510
we're moving into, it's going to be very fascinating.
00:46:21.769 --> 00:46:24.480
It's moving faster than ever. But that's why
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I also believe that we need to develop ourselves
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.440
with that pace, because otherwise fear takes
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.860
over, division takes over, scarcity mindset takes
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over, and then we stack the odds against ourselves.
00:46:39.659 --> 00:46:43.300
Yeah, we do, including false narratives, and
00:46:43.300 --> 00:46:47.840
misconceived notions. 100%. And now we're back
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.179
to the illusions. Now we're back to the illusions.
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.119
Exactly. You see it on full display now, Mr.
00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:56.039
Aubrey, you have almost two different worlds
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.440
living in the United States based on what news
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.400
channel you're listening to, which isn't news,
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:04.400
it's just negative sensationalism. It is. But
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:09.960
it's so obvious that your perception dictates
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.599
your reality. belong to this group, your perception
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.179
is a certain way. That means everything else
00:47:16.179 --> 00:47:18.980
is bad. If you belong to this group and your
00:47:18.980 --> 00:47:20.800
perception is that that is the best group to
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.039
belong to, this group are like the worst of the
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.800
worst. And that's all I can see now because I've
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.099
adopted the idea that that's how it is. So when
00:47:31.099 --> 00:47:33.800
I adopt the idea, it creates the framework back
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:36.699
to the domino brick. When I have the framework
00:47:36.699 --> 00:47:39.300
in place and my perception locked in to this
00:47:39.300 --> 00:47:41.739
is how it is, I will find the evidence. But that
00:47:41.739 --> 00:47:44.039
goes for our life too. So if I'm locked into
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.260
the idea that I'm a happy, healthy multimillionaire,
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.659
I'll find evidence for it. But if I'm locked
00:47:48.659 --> 00:47:50.519
into the idea that everything is hard and it's
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.000
a struggle and everything's expensive, I can't
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.239
afford, well, congratulations, I'll get that
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.070
reality too. I can take a step back, look at
00:47:58.070 --> 00:48:00.030
the insanity that's going on in the world right
00:48:00.030 --> 00:48:02.909
now and just say, okay, it's the perception that's
00:48:02.909 --> 00:48:05.210
governing everything here. I'm a spiritual being.
00:48:05.429 --> 00:48:07.670
I don't need to take part in this tribalism.
00:48:07.909 --> 00:48:12.489
I can actually create my own narrative so that
00:48:12.489 --> 00:48:15.650
more of those illusions fall away. And I do believe
00:48:15.650 --> 00:48:18.289
that is our biggest opportunity at this point
00:48:18.289 --> 00:48:23.219
in time. 100%. I couldn't agree more, Anders,
00:48:23.579 --> 00:48:26.400
having that overarching view to where, to your
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.300
point, you take a step back and you see just
00:48:29.300 --> 00:48:32.079
all these narratives going on on either side,
00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:37.340
right? And then, of course, from there, realize
00:48:37.340 --> 00:48:41.539
to ourselves that, hey, I can choose, make the
00:48:41.539 --> 00:48:49.360
choice to have my reality. my perception, and
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.500
to realize the illusions for what they are, illusions,
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:56.239
okay, and not let them interfere with me, not
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.539
to consume myself 100 % in the physical realm,
00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:02.920
because that's where depression, anxiety, trauma,
00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:05.699
all of these things, which are of the physical
00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:09.639
world, of the physical realm. And then of course,
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.019
that limits you from realizing your true potential
00:49:12.019 --> 00:49:17.920
and everything. So that is absolutely What we
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.139
wanted to tap into today in the insights that
00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:26.079
you've shared with the listeners Anders You know
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.360
Helping people realize they don't have to wallow
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:33.900
in their current state That there's so much more
00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:38.679
available to them if they just realize Where
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:44.159
they are and make the choice? To to look at the
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.389
bigger picture absolutely Absolutely. And it's
00:49:47.389 --> 00:49:49.929
a choice. It's one decision. We're one decision,
00:49:50.170 --> 00:49:53.230
one perception shift, one right move away from
00:49:53.230 --> 00:49:56.550
completely transforming our life. And we don't
00:49:56.550 --> 00:49:59.030
believe that sometimes, but that's nonetheless
00:49:59.030 --> 00:50:02.269
how it is. You know, you've just made my day
00:50:02.269 --> 00:50:05.670
here, Anders, because in mentioning that right
00:50:05.670 --> 00:50:08.809
there, we're one decision, we're one move away,
00:50:08.809 --> 00:50:11.570
you know, of complete transformation in the right
00:50:11.570 --> 00:50:13.630
direction, realizing our full potential, the
00:50:13.630 --> 00:50:20.710
sky's the limit. When I hear that, it brightens
00:50:20.710 --> 00:50:26.070
my day and helps me kind of squash or put to
00:50:26.070 --> 00:50:29.170
rest harsh realities of the physical realm when
00:50:29.170 --> 00:50:32.050
it comes to AI that illusions are created. You
00:50:32.050 --> 00:50:38.949
can't tell reality or real art from artificial
00:50:38.949 --> 00:50:43.150
intelligent art. And it's like you have to walk
00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:45.829
on eggshells and take everything with a grain
00:50:45.829 --> 00:50:48.869
of salt that you read or see because everyone's
00:50:48.869 --> 00:50:52.269
incorporating AI. That's not the world I want
00:50:52.269 --> 00:50:55.630
to live in, you know. I want to live in that
00:50:55.630 --> 00:50:58.610
world where, you know, I realize I'm a spiritual
00:50:58.610 --> 00:51:03.849
being and I'm capable of things in the spiritual
00:51:03.849 --> 00:51:06.329
realm and the physical experience that I'm having.
00:51:06.670 --> 00:51:09.869
are probably challenges and obstacles that I
00:51:09.869 --> 00:51:13.530
realize, but I know I can rise above it because
00:51:13.530 --> 00:51:18.110
I'm not physical. It's just a small lower level
00:51:18.110 --> 00:51:21.829
than the upper level spiritual sense. Exactly.
00:51:22.389 --> 00:51:25.570
That's exactly it. Beautiful. Hey, Anders, how
00:51:25.570 --> 00:51:30.309
can the listeners learn more about you, follow
00:51:30.309 --> 00:51:33.389
you, connect with you, and just learn about your
00:51:33.389 --> 00:51:35.500
great work and what you're doing? Absolutely.
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.559
So if you're listening along and you want to
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.039
improve your results, your income, your impact,
00:51:40.260 --> 00:51:42.940
your health, you know you're meant for more,
00:51:42.980 --> 00:51:44.820
but you also realize that there is something
00:51:44.820 --> 00:51:48.219
that's unseen, sort of keeping you back, holding
00:51:48.219 --> 00:51:51.159
you back from that. next level of income impact
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.480
and clarity. What I'm going to offer here, I
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.059
believe is going to help change that. I believe
00:51:57.059 --> 00:51:59.039
first and foremost, Aubrey, we need to figure
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.079
out what's holding us back before we chart the
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.079
course for what we want. So the first thing I'm
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:04.840
going to give your listeners completely free
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.719
is our assessment, our illusion blocking assessment,
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:13.000
success blocking assessment really, that helps
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.610
a person identify one Which one of the five biggest
00:52:16.610 --> 00:52:19.130
mental illusions that they live with that are
00:52:19.130 --> 00:52:22.050
currently predominant in their mind? And so it's
00:52:22.050 --> 00:52:24.510
a completely free test. You take that first and
00:52:24.510 --> 00:52:26.389
then you learn what that illusion is. And that
00:52:26.389 --> 00:52:29.590
gives you a great foundation to change it. What's
00:52:29.590 --> 00:52:33.769
part of the kit? We call it our real magic mindset
00:52:33.769 --> 00:52:37.969
kit. It consists of the test and also it consists
00:52:37.969 --> 00:52:41.389
of the priming tools to get into the state of
00:52:41.389 --> 00:52:43.750
that quantum leap goal that we set for ourselves.
00:52:44.289 --> 00:52:46.650
And then it includes a lesson from the program
00:52:46.650 --> 00:52:49.510
that Bob Proctor and I created that really teaches
00:52:49.510 --> 00:52:53.150
a person about the mental and physical connection
00:52:53.150 --> 00:52:56.809
and what it means to create from the upside down
00:52:56.809 --> 00:53:00.119
and the inside out. And so that's all part of
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.619
a complete framework that will help a person
00:53:02.619 --> 00:53:05.780
with momentum, regardless of where they're at
00:53:05.780 --> 00:53:08.000
in their life. And it will help them shift that
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.039
subconscious state and believe about themselves.
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:14.119
And all they have to do to get that is to find
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.960
me on Facebook or Instagram at Real Anders Hansen.
00:53:17.980 --> 00:53:22.230
So in one word, R -E -A -L -N -A -N -D -E -R
00:53:22.230 --> 00:53:26.429
-S -H -A -N -S -E -N, real Anders Hansen. And
00:53:26.429 --> 00:53:29.349
then just comment the word wrote to discovery,
00:53:29.829 --> 00:53:31.809
excuse me, wrote to rediscovery in one word,
00:53:32.030 --> 00:53:34.789
wrote to rediscovery on one of my posts on either
00:53:34.789 --> 00:53:37.170
Instagram or Facebook. And then we'll ping you
00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:40.989
right over that whole kit for free. Fantastic.
00:53:41.250 --> 00:53:44.550
Oh, my goodness. I'm just jotting this down here
00:53:44.550 --> 00:53:46.349
because we're going to make this available to
00:53:46.349 --> 00:53:50.869
all the listeners. who takes in this conversation.
00:53:51.329 --> 00:53:56.210
All right. Look, Anders is offering. This is
00:53:56.210 --> 00:53:59.989
this is very value to of high value. Anders is
00:53:59.989 --> 00:54:03.769
offering for free an illusion success blocking
00:54:03.769 --> 00:54:08.230
test. OK, to help you try to identify what's
00:54:08.230 --> 00:54:11.090
blocking your progress, your success, realizing
00:54:11.090 --> 00:54:13.750
your true potential. And then, of course, including
00:54:13.750 --> 00:54:17.170
tools to get in the state of. quantum leap goals.
00:54:18.110 --> 00:54:23.030
So I mean, this is extraordinary opportunity
00:54:23.030 --> 00:54:29.090
for free guidance and free tools and a free test
00:54:29.090 --> 00:54:32.550
to help you realize what you're truly capable
00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:38.849
of. And all you have to do is send a DM to at
00:54:38.849 --> 00:54:43.599
real Anders Hansen. on IG, Instagram, or Facebook,
00:54:44.300 --> 00:54:48.760
send a DM that says road to rediscovery. And
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:52.219
you get that. This is huge. Anders, I want to
00:54:52.219 --> 00:54:55.440
thank you so much for your thoughtfulness in
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.179
offering this for our listeners, those who are
00:54:59.179 --> 00:55:02.159
listening that are looking for ways to realize
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:05.760
their potential, looking for ways to get themselves
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.880
stuck out of the rut of this physical realm that
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:13.340
just has constant despair and anxiety and depression
00:55:13.340 --> 00:55:17.940
and just nervousness and feelings of inadequacy,
00:55:18.139 --> 00:55:20.579
low self -esteem and those sorts of things, getting
00:55:20.579 --> 00:55:24.360
out of that rut with what you can guide them
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.719
and teach them in just this. And this is the
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.780
tip of the iceberg, Anders. I can't thank you
00:55:30.780 --> 00:55:33.480
enough, sir. I can't thank you enough. And I
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:35.440
appreciate you, Aubrey, for the great work you're
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.590
doing. It's been such a pleasure. Oh, well, thank
00:55:38.590 --> 00:55:41.869
you, sir. And I hope we can stay in touch and
00:55:41.869 --> 00:55:43.929
maybe bring you back on the show in the near
00:55:43.929 --> 00:55:47.690
future for a book release or anything. I love
00:55:47.690 --> 00:55:49.510
that. That's such a great honor. Thank you so
00:55:49.510 --> 00:55:52.070
much. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. It's
00:55:52.070 --> 00:55:54.230
been a true delight, Anders. And I want to thank
00:55:54.230 --> 00:55:56.610
all of you for tuning in and listening. And look,
00:55:56.769 --> 00:55:59.230
you may feel this way of times, but in our daily
00:55:59.230 --> 00:56:02.250
struggles and adversities, we're never alone.
00:56:03.289 --> 00:56:08.070
And hope is always around the corner. I humbly
00:56:08.070 --> 00:56:10.190
ask that you please share this show with someone
00:56:10.190 --> 00:56:13.969
you love, someone you know who needs motivation,
00:56:14.230 --> 00:56:17.329
inspiration, and support. And when it all comes
00:56:17.329 --> 00:56:20.250
down to it, we're all just roadies on this journey
00:56:20.250 --> 00:56:23.469
of life. But it sure feels good having you right
00:56:23.469 --> 00:56:27.110
alongside me. Thanks again for listening. We'll
00:56:27.110 --> 00:56:30.130
chat again soon. We really hope you enjoyed this
00:56:30.130 --> 00:56:32.650
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