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Europe records its first Ryder Cup win on U.S.
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soil since 1993.
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The final score was Europe 15, USA 13.
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It was a heck of a Ryder Cup from just being a
weird Ryder Cup.
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We came all the way back and almost pulled off
the epic comeback upset on that final day in
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the singles matches.
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We got dominated.
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I mean, there's no other way to kind of put it.
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Like, if I'm the Europeans, I don't bring on
another captain.
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But remember, he wasn't even supposed to be the
Ryder Cup captain two years ago.
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So for him to be thrust into that, it was
supposed to be Henrik Stenson who ended up
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going to LIV Golf and then they were like,
yeah, you can't be the captain of the Ryder Cup
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team.
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So they had Luke Donald step in and what a job
he did.
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And then on top of that, showing that he is
such a great captain.
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Like, it was almost like if you've ever been in
a golf match before and you just run into a
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buzzsaw, the guy that just can't miss.
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The guy that's making everything.
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That's what the Europeans look like.
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And it came as no surprise whatsoever to myself
as well as to Buttsy or to Brent that were on
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the podcast last week for the Ryder Cup preview
because guess what?
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We called it.
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We said the course setup was really going to
favor the Europeans.
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The Europeans were the favorites heading into
this, we believe.
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On paper, it's the first time that the European
team really stacked up on paper just as good,
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if not better, than the U.S.
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team.
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And we talked about how the crowds like,
hopefully, the crowds would end up helping Team
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USA, and it seemed like it backfired.
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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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And on today's episode, we have the Ryder Cup
recap for 2023.
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And it was an interesting Ryder Cup, needless
to say.
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But before we dive into today's episode and go
over everything Ryder Cup and what took place,
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breaking it down, and analyzing it.
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Let's get into today's episode, which is the
Ryder Cup recap.
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And first off, folks, if you've been living
under a rock and don't realize what happened at
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the Ryder Cup, Europe records its first Ryder
Cup win on U.S.
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soil since 2012.
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The final score was Europe 15, USA 13.
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It was a heck of a Ryder Cup from just being a
weird Ryder Cup in my opinion.
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Europe dominated in the team matchups and we
came all the way back and almost pulled off the
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epic comeback upset on that final day in the
singles matches because, man, we were down a
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lot heading into that final day.
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We got dominated.
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I mean, there's no other way to kind of put it,
but I related it this way.
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I was talking with Brent Grant a lot during the
Ryder Cup.
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We were texting back and forth, and he was
saying, ah, the U.S.
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just, you know, they don't have the effort
going into it, which some people, certainly you
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could draw conclusions there and say, oh, the
USA team doesn't really care.
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They didn't really practice hard heading into
this.
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There's a lot of reports out there too around
that part of it that, and I'll get to that in a
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little bit probably towards the end of this
podcast.
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I'll talk a little bit about the reports of as
to how the U.S.
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team prepared or the lack thereof and how that
all turned out.
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But to me, it wasn't an effort.
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It wasn't that the Europeans wanted it more.
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That's not what I saw.
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I saw a lot of emotions coming out
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of the U.S.
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team too.
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where a guy like Scottie Scheffler was
devastated that he hadn't racked up a single
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point throughout all the matches, all the team
matches, I should say.
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And that was very devastating to the U.S.
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team as well.
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But it was almost like if you've ever been in a
golf match before and you just run into a buzz
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saw, the guy that just can't miss, the guy
that's making everything, that's what the
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Europeans looked like.
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And it came as no surprise whatsoever to myself
as well as to Buttsy or to Brent who were on
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the podcast last week for the Ryder Cup preview
because guess what?
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We called it.
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We said the course setup was really going to
favor the Europeans.
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The Europeans were the favorites heading into
this, we believe.
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On paper, it's the first time that the European
team really stacked up on paper just as good,
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if not better, than the U.S.
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team.
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And we talked about how hopefully the crowds
would end up helping Team USA.
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And it seemed like it backfired because in a
lot of ways, and I want to talk about this for
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a minute, that around all the talk that the New
York crowd went too far.
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Like, I've heard the stuff that they were
saying.
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Like, New York fans a lot of times are
intelligent.
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There's a few bad apples for sure that get
through there.
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And were they too much on Rory?
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Yeah.
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They crossed the line with Rory McIlroy.
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But some of these others that you're hearing,
like, some of them are jabs, like funny jabs.
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Like Bobby McIntyre, go on Ozempic, or when are
you going on Ozempic?
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Like, things like that, I don't know if that's
crossing the line for you.
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But for me as a fan of witnessing that, like,
would that be something I'd ever say to him?
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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But it is something that was said out there.
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Now there were some things about Rory with the
cheating and everything, and his wife and kids
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were out there, or at least his wife was out
there.
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And she ended up getting a drink thrown on her.
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Like, there was a whole bunch of stuff that
went across a lot in my opinion.
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And there's no place for that just in sports in
general.
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I do not like the rhetoric and the commentary
around the fact that golf needs to be held to
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this higher standard than other sports.
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No.
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Sports in general need to be held to a higher
standard in my opinion.
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And if it's taking place in basketball,
baseball, football, whatever team sport, it's
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probably gonna happen in golf as well.
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Like, I hate the elitist mentality of golf.
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Like, that's one of the things that I just
absolutely can't stand about this sport is that
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it thinks it's better than everybody else, and
it's not.
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Like, I've played sports growing up, played
team sports.
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Like, if anything, you learn just as much, if
not more in team sports than you do in an
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individual sport like the game of golf.
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Like, yes.
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Are there, you know, ethics being taught?
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Or is there a, I guess you could say, a
gentleman's side to this whole entire sport?
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Absolutely.
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Like, that is traditional golf.
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And do I buy into that?
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Sure.
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Like, I love the fact that golf is a bit of a
mirror of life and that, you know, how you act
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like you're in it on your own and how you act
represents how you look out there on the golf
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course.
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The part that I just don't really buy into is
that it's better than everything else that's
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out there, that you don't learn that in other
sports, sportsmanship, things along those
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lines.
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It's just you gotta have a—and I shouldn't say
you gotta have because that's not the point
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that I'm trying to make.
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It's just I feel like it's on the same level as
all other sports when it comes to we just need
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to see better out of fans.
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I mean, you hear it all the time with Little
League games and so forth of getting the
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parents getting in on the refs or umpires.
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And it's just, yeah, a lot of these things need
to change, but it's in the heat of the moment.
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It's in sports.
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It's about, like, that competitiveness that
comes out.
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And sometimes that competitiveness, even with
fans, is ugly.
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So it's not that I wasn't expected.
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The Europeans handled it beautifully outside
of, I would say, you know, Shane Lowry and Rory
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McIlroy, which people might be like, yeah, but
they're being heckled.
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Like you can't have it both ways.
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You can't be telling fans to shut the F up and
then turning around and saying, you know, we
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expect more out of golfers and the things that
Rory was saying.
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And then Rory even afterwards in the
celebrations putting the European flag over
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Bryson DeChambeau's name and yelling out to the
crowd.
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So those types of things, they don't go hand in
hand.
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And I've seen it like, Paul Azinger talked
about it on the Subpar Golf Podcast.
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So I'm not the only one that has this opinion
in regards to this.
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Like, it is well documented, and, like, a lot
of people are like, man, that's really
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hypocritical of somebody like Rory McIlroy.
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And, of course, the people that don't like Rory
McIlroy because he was the face of the PGA Tour
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versus LIV Golf are obviously talking about
Rory in that way a little bit more negatively
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too.
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Like, oh, it comes out of both sides of his
mouth and so forth.
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Like, I get it.
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I get where you're coming from.
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But to me, like, he dealt with a lot of
frustration and he gave it back.
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So I don't really have a problem with Rory
saying the things that he did.
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I do think afterwards, when he's trying to talk
about how, like, the fans need to be more
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respectful, golf needs to be held to a higher
standard, blah blah blah.
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Like, that's the part that I'm like, okay.
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Now you're a hypocrite because you literally
lowered that level in your responses to those.
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Like, could you have just kept going along your
way without acknowledging it?
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Absolutely.
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But those things get to Rory McIlroy, and I
understand it.
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He's a human being.
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Right?
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We're all human beings.
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So does anybody want to be talked to like that?
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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But it's a hostile environment.
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And I don't think the comparison is to, oh, the
U.S.
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crowd versus the European crowd.
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European crowds just do this.
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It's like, in a lot of ways, it's the same
stuff.
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It's just U.S.
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fans, especially like New Yorkers, they do
their homework.
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They do their research.
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They come into these.
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Like, I've heard of baseball games where, like,
they know about somebody's childhood.
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Like, going into Yankee Stadium, I saw a post
by Chipper Jones, who is the famous infielder
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for the Atlanta Braves.
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And he's like, I would never allow my wife,
family, or kids to come into Yankee Stadium
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because I knew that they were gonna be saying
some horrible things to me during a game.
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Like, you just need to know that.
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And that, in a lot of ways, like, that's a New
York crowd getting under people's skins.
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That's what makes New York in a lot of ways.
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Like, a lot of people aren't gonna understand
this.
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If you're not from New York, you don't get it.
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But that is the home-field advantage a lot of
times in New York.
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Like I worked within virtual reality for Major
League Baseball, for the Major League Baseball
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teams, not for Major League Baseball, but
dealing with the Baltimore Orioles, for
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instance, like they wanted fan noise.
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They wanted heckling.
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They wanted the stuff that was going to be said
during the game to be in there when they go to
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Yankee Stadium because their team always had a
tough time, especially when they had young
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teams to go into Yankee Stadium and to actually
perform.
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They would always technically choke, and they
wanted that preparation to be able to have
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their team ready to go and be able to handle
that when they get in there.
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So I get it from both sides of the spectrum.
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Again, like me, personally, I think that there
were a lot of things that were said that did
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cross the line just in sports in general.
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Again, not a fan of holding golf to an
invisible higher standard.
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I just don't buy it.
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In the least, it's a competitive sport, and
this is a team sport for the Ryder Cup.
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Alright.
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Moving beyond the crowd because that took a lot
of the attention away from the actual Ryder Cup
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itself, in my opinion.
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Like, you even had the broadcasters during the
Ryder Cup talking about it throughout, over and
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over and over again.
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It's like, alright.
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Let's just move on.
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Like, I was even thinking about muting the TV
at a point.
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I'm like, gosh.
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They just keep bringing it up.
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But Europe did what you have to do to shut them
up.
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They won, and they used it as motivation, which
is awesome.
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Like, I love that.
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Like, think of Michael Jordan in basketball as
to how he would use anything he possibly could
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as bulletin board material.
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I also talked about how Luke Donald, on the
other hand, had really prepared his team for
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the New York crowd.
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But in addition to that, all the little details
that he did leading up to the Ryder Cup with
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just how they set up everything, the little
slogans, using "Excelsior" on their golf bags,
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which is the New York state motto.
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Like all these things that he did were the
difference makers in my opinion.
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And he might go down as one of the greatest, if
not the greatest, captain of a Ryder Cup team.
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And remember, he wasn't even supposed to be the
Ryder Cup captain two years ago.
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So for him to be thrust into that, it was
supposed to be Henrik Stenson who ended up
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going to LIV Golf, and then they were like,
yeah, you can't be the captain of the Ryder Cup
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team.
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So they had Luke Donald step in, and what a job
he did.
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And then on top of that, really showing that he
is such a great captain.
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Like, if I'm the Europeans, I don't bring on
another captain.
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Like, I allow Luke Donald to run this thing
until he loses.
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Like, just like a coach.
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Like, Luke, will you continue to do this?
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I think he really thrives in that environment
and really enjoys it.
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And then the European side, you've got
Molinari, which I believe it's Matteo who's the
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stats guy.
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And the entire stats portion, if you I forget
who he went on with.
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Oh, I think it was with No Laying Up.
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He went on and was talking about these stats,
and he knew who would play what holes when
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they're going in alternate shot because of the
shot patterns that they know basically all the
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shot patterns.
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They have it all marked down.
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They have it all notated, and they know exactly
who's going where.
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Then you got on the US side, Scottie Scheffler,
and they're debating whether or not like at the
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last minute, what, who should lead off now?
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Am I the biggest data and analytics guy in the
world?
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No.
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I believe that there is some gut instinct that
comes with playing sports that are the
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intangibles that you can't really get from data
and analytics.
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But when you're putting together a team and
you're putting together who should play
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together and you're looking at alternate shot,
like, those
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things do matter.
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The other side to this is that Tommy Fleetwood
on the European side, to me, he was the
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difference maker.
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Like, Tommy Fleetwood came into this, and
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it was no surprise.
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Dude had been playing so well at the end of the
year throughout the FedEx Cup and then
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obviously winning the Tour Championship.
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The dude was unbelievable.
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So, like, shout out to him and his performance.
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We have somebody on the US side that, in my
opinion, was just as good, and we'll get to
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that in a bit, which is pretty cool to see a
breakout of a US player.
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But Tommy Fleetwood, you've got the MVP for the
Ryder Cup for the European team.
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All class.
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Like, I love the class from Tommy Fleetwood.
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Did he say a peep to the crowd the entire time?
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No.
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Just a great dude and absolutely loved it.
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Now this is the part that gets interesting
because to me, was there an issue with the U.S.
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Ryder Cup team?
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Was Keegan Bradley?
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Did he do a good job as a captain?
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The teams that he was putting out there, a lot
of people were complaining about some of the
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pairings that he put out there.
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I don't have a problem with the pairings.
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Like, I really don't.
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At the end of the day, like, yeah, you can look
at some of the data around some of the pairings
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and be like, that was a terrible decision.
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Hindsight's always 20/20 with all of that
stuff.
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So I don't have a problem with anything Keegan
did.
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Keegan went with what he believed was going to
get them the best outcome.
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Now if you go back two years ago with Zach
Johnson, I feel like the picks and then on top
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of the picks, the pairings that there was a lot
to be excited about with that.
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And I feel like there were mistakes with the
pairings.
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Keegan, not so much.
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I think he made good picks.
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I think he put together good teams.
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So you can argue with me on that.
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I know I've seen some stuff out there about the
pairings being the problem.
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To us on this podcast.
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Last week, we talked about it in detail around
the golf setup or the golf course setup and how
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that was the biggest mistake.
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Even Keegan Bradley in his post-con or
post-press conference afterwards goes into how,
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yeah, the thing that he felt like he might have
screwed up was the course setup and that it
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rained, became super soft, and it basically
became a putting contest to where the Europeans
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are gonna win that.
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Now if you look at strokes gained tee to green,
the U.S.
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dominated.
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So why wouldn't you make the golf course
harder?
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Grow out the rough, make the fairway smaller.
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Like the Europeans were able to spray wherever
they wanted.
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The rough was no factor whatsoever.
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There are so many times where Jon Rahm had
sprayed the golf ball everywhere, and yet he's
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sticking it on his approach shot out of the
rough.
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That one, to me, is the big difference maker.
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And it was something that I had talked to with
Brent about, like I said, on text messages
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going back and forth during the Ryder Cup.
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It's like, yeah, we saw this one coming.
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We were hoping that it was gonna be a lot
closer.
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I did mention that if the U.S.
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was going to win, it was gonna be a very close
victory for the U.S.
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We're all very high on Team Europe.
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We just felt like them coming in made a ton of
sense.
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The big report that just recently came out is
about how the U.S.
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team prepared.
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And if these reports are accurate and that it
is somebody coming out of the U.S. locker
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locker room that's releasing this information,
that's been around the team or was a part of
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this and they want it to be known.
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First of all, put your name to it.
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Like the anonymous reports, I've never been a
big fan of it.
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Have had to do it when we were reporting on,
you know, breaking LIV Golf news and stuff
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along those lines with players that are
potentially signing and so forth and that did
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sign.
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We had to.
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We couldn't add agents' names.
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We couldn't talk about the people in the know
that have that.
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But with a situation like this, if you're going
to drop this type of information, put your name
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on it.
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Like, come out and just say, yes, I am X, Y,
and Z person from the U.S.
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squad, and I don't feel like our preparation
was very good heading into the tournament
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because the report is that the Europeans played
18 holes eight or nine times during the lead-up
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to the Ryder Cup.
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So they went over a week early.
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They were playing the course all the time.
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The U.S.
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decided two weeks prior that everybody's gonna
play in the Pro-Am except for Xander
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Schauffele, who just had a kid and really had
been nursing injuries all year long.
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They come over and they play a couple nine-hole
rounds and some matches to coincide with that,
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but didn't even get in nearly half the amount
of time that the Europeans did on the golf
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course.
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I mentioned this last week.
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The greens at Bethpage are subtle.
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The breaks are subtle.
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You have to play it a lot in order to get those
subtleties to it.
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That did not happen, and clearly, the U.S.
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team missed a lot of clutch putts.
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Now is that just because they're not clutch
putters?
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No.
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We have some of the best putters in the world
on the U.S.
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team.
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Like a Russell Henley, for instance, is a
phenomenal putter.
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We did not see those clutch putts dropping for
the U.S., and we did for Team Europe.
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So if those reports are accurate that the U.S.
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team barely played any practice rounds in the
lead-up to the Ryder Cup, yeah.
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People could be a little bit pissed off in
regards to that.
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And that would have been a fail from a
preparation standpoint because it showed they
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didn't always like, there's a lot of misreads,
a lot of misreads by the U.S.
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team.
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Europe did not have those misreads on the
greens, which it's like, okay.
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That all correlates to this report.
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So I do think that, yeah, is there some legs to
this report?
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Sure.
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Sure could be.
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I don't know for certain.
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I haven't heard it.
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I haven't really reached out to a lot of
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people in regards to it.
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But, again, I don't know.
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Like, it all kinda matches up to what actually
took place.
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The last part that I will mention around all of
this, well, one shout out to Team Europe and
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they even did that Hey Donald clip.
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That's pretty funny.
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And, President Trump responded to it on
Twitter.
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He's like, yes, I'm watching.
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Congratulations.
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The, the part to me
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that in addition to the U.S.
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not preparing properly is what does this mean
for
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2027 at I believe it's Adare Manor is the golf
club that they will be playing at.
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Now Phil Mickelson has had some really poor hot
takes, the one about Scottie Scheffler at the
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beginning of
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the year, how I don't think he's gonna win
before the Ryder Cup and all this.
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And then obviously we see the year that Scottie
Scheffler has had.
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Not always been known for great takes, but this
one I actually enjoy from Phil Mickelson is his
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suggestion of bringing in, like, a famous
basketball coach, like a Coach K, or like a
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football coach, like Lou Holtz, which I don't
know if Lou Holtz would be the right guy for
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this.
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But somebody who understands golf has an
analytics team, obviously, that is there as
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well, that is helping out with some of the
number side to it like Molinari did for the
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European team.
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But I kinda like that idea of bringing in
somebody who's an actual leader of a team, team
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sports, and can actually go in and provide some
direction, some motivation, and help them
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understand what the team aspect really is and
what that looks like.
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I would love to know, like, what is, I think
Phil Mickelson would be a very polarizing
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captain.
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I don't think it's feasible at this point with
how much damage has been done, the
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relationships with guys and so forth that play
on the PGA Tour.
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I just don't think that Phil Mickelson as a
captain makes a whole lot of sense.
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But in that same breath, like, who does?
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Like, are we really going to see Tiger Woods be
the captain of the Ryder Cup team?
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I did say that, man, if we've lost Bethpage and
we end up going international, that that was
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the time that Tiger would step in, that there's
so much benefit to him being the captain and if
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he wins.
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If you lose on international soil, we did see
it was Zach Johnson because we had high
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expectations for that team.
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And then the picks were off.
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Like, there were a lot of things that were done
poorly that he got a lot of the blame for.
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We're, like, losing two in a row, there's not
that much at risk if you're Tiger Woods.
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There's more to gain, I should say.
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Like, there's still risk.
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There's still, oh my gosh.
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If you guys lose and if the U.S.
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did lose, then but it's international soil.
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Like, it's somewhat to be expected now that
when you go over to the other
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countries, golf courses, and fans that you're
not expected to win.
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So to me, Tiger Woods, there's so
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much upside to him potentially doing this and
becoming the Ryder Cup captain that it just
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makes a ton of sense in my opinion.
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You might feel otherwise and you might have a
difference of opinion about Tiger Woods, but a
450
00:27:04,625 --> 00:27:06,144
lot of these guys look up to him.
451
00:27:06,144 --> 00:27:07,744
I think he would just be a great
452
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,480
person to captain a team.
453
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,279
Now do I know if Tiger would be a good leader
in that situation or not?
454
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:18,240
I have no idea.
455
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,680
No idea whatsoever.
456
00:27:21,615 --> 00:27:25,134
But, again, like, who else are you gonna get to
be
457
00:27:25,134 --> 00:27:28,414
the captain of the team at this point?
458
00:27:29,934 --> 00:27:31,855
Again, I like Phil's idea.
459
00:27:32,174 --> 00:27:33,615
Bring in a coach, a U.S.
460
00:27:33,615 --> 00:27:35,839
coach, somebody who's coached a USA Team.
461
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:37,679
Like, I love the idea of Coach K.
462
00:27:38,639 --> 00:27:41,999
I thought that that was actually a great
suggestion.
463
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,839
But before we jump off here, I do wanna give a
shoutout to one guy on the U.S.
464
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:55,575
team that just stood above everybody else, and
that is Cameron Young.
465
00:27:56,295 --> 00:28:03,889
Cameron Young from New York, father pro over at
Sleepy Hollow, and Cameron Young, whoo.
466
00:28:05,009 --> 00:28:06,929
Unreal performance out of him.
467
00:28:07,410 --> 00:28:10,609
And I know he had just won not that long ago.
468
00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:15,410
Getting that first victory builds a lot of
confidence, but his putting, he had fixed his
469
00:28:15,410 --> 00:28:19,134
putting, and it showed because he made clutch
putt after clutch putt.
470
00:28:19,134 --> 00:28:20,894
The dude was phenomenal.
471
00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:26,014
And I think we actually started to see his
personality for the first time out there.
472
00:28:26,654 --> 00:28:30,654
That fire because, otherwise, he's very stoic,
very calm.
473
00:28:30,815 --> 00:28:36,070
Like, a lot of people are just, like, that know
him or, like, have been around him or just,
474
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:43,750
like, there's not a ton of personality there,
which I think, you know, you could be reserved,
475
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:47,750
introvert, being a golfer, and you might not
show it all the time.
476
00:28:48,525 --> 00:28:53,164
But seeing that competitive fire out of him and
seeing him perform and being clutch, I think
477
00:28:53,164 --> 00:28:53,805
the U.S.
478
00:28:53,805 --> 00:28:58,684
has a guy now that you can count on when it
comes to the Ryder Cup.
479
00:28:58,684 --> 00:29:02,099
You're picking Cameron Young, and that dude is
your stud.
480
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,819
That is your horse going into the next Ryder
Cup.
481
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:09,140
And hopefully, it is not just because it was
Bethpage Black that it was New York.
482
00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:16,674
Like, I do think that his game translates so
well to match play type situations and just
483
00:29:16,674 --> 00:29:25,649
being a great teammate as well because, dude,
bombs it a mile, has good iron game, and now is
484
00:29:25,649 --> 00:29:27,890
a good putter as well to coincide to that.
485
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:29,249
Like, he fixed his putting.
486
00:29:29,329 --> 00:29:30,849
He just looked awesome out there.
487
00:29:30,849 --> 00:29:32,210
So shout out Cameron Young.
488
00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:34,929
You are by far the MVP of that U.S.
489
00:29:34,929 --> 00:29:35,489
team.
490
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:37,184
And, yeah, love that.
491
00:29:37,184 --> 00:29:38,544
He was a New Yorker too.
492
00:29:38,944 --> 00:29:40,224
Scottie and Bryson,
493
00:29:41,424 --> 00:29:48,625
as we wrap up this episode, I feel bad for
Scottie Scheffler.
494
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,279
Scottie Scheffler has not performed well in
Ryder Cups.
495
00:29:55,319 --> 00:30:03,880
And I don't know if you guys see this or not,
but to me, he's never been one that under the
496
00:30:04,484 --> 00:30:08,964
clutch moments outside of certain instances.
497
00:30:09,285 --> 00:30:12,325
I'm not saying that it's just a blanket
statement here.
498
00:30:12,404 --> 00:30:17,525
But, like, when he was gonna get the record,
when he was going to win the Masters for the
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00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:25,039
first time, there's just moments where Scottie
Scheffler and I, and, I mean, you can go back
500
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:30,079
and look and see there are a lot of these
moments where, like, he still wins.
501
00:30:32,414 --> 00:30:37,535
And you might not look at them and go, oh, man.
502
00:30:37,535 --> 00:30:42,174
Like, that's a little chink in the armor.
503
00:30:42,575 --> 00:30:47,519
That is something that he just hasn't figured
out yet.
504
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,039
And to me, there's a clutchness, and it's
different with different types of pressure.
505
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,519
When he's very comfortable, he's got everything
going his way.
506
00:30:58,694 --> 00:31:01,335
He is very, very good.
507
00:31:01,654 --> 00:31:07,335
And you could say that he's clutch in those
moments and wins golf tournaments, wins them by
508
00:31:07,335 --> 00:31:08,054
a lot.
509
00:31:08,694 --> 00:31:14,059
But there are other pressure moments when
getting records, when winning for the first
510
00:31:14,059 --> 00:31:17,019
time a major championship, these different
things.
511
00:31:17,019 --> 00:31:21,980
Remember, he four-putted that final hole, and
that is a bugaboo in my opinion about Scottie
512
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:30,684
Scheffler is that he's one of these guys whose
talent is so dang, like, better than everybody
513
00:31:30,684 --> 00:31:34,684
else that you can't quite see it with the naked
eye.
514
00:31:35,085 --> 00:31:40,044
You have to understand it in order to
understand that Scottie Scheffler struggles
515
00:31:41,109 --> 00:31:43,109
in certain pressure situations.
516
00:31:44,390 --> 00:31:52,230
And we see it at the Ryder Cup when this is
bigger than him, it's for his country, and all
517
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:52,390
of
518
00:31:52,390 --> 00:32:01,045
a sudden it's not just, you know, his usual of
how do I even put this?
519
00:32:01,525 --> 00:32:05,845
Because he's made golf secondary or actually
third.
520
00:32:06,019 --> 00:32:08,899
There's God, there's his family, and then
there's golf.
521
00:32:08,899 --> 00:32:11,379
And he made that point at the Open
Championship.
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00:32:11,379 --> 00:32:13,859
I've talked about it numerous times on this
podcast.
523
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:20,099
I think that is a really powerful place to play
from as it's not the most important thing in
524
00:32:20,099 --> 00:32:20,659
the world to him.
525
00:32:21,365 --> 00:32:27,605
The Ryder Cup kinda shifts that pressure, and
it kinda elevates it to where it is bigger than
526
00:32:27,605 --> 00:32:28,085
him.
527
00:32:28,805 --> 00:32:33,365
But it's not like, it's something that he
actually really cares about.
528
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:37,129
And that's why I don't think the effort side to
it of saying that the U.S.
529
00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:38,249
team doesn't care.
530
00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:40,009
Like, Scottie Scheffler cares.
531
00:32:40,009 --> 00:32:41,449
Like, that dude was crying.
532
00:32:41,849 --> 00:32:44,009
He cried two years ago.
533
00:32:44,649 --> 00:32:49,774
Like, Scottie Scheffler cares, but he might
care a little bit too much, and that adds an
534
00:32:49,774 --> 00:32:53,054
additional level of pressure that he's not
comfortable with.
535
00:32:53,855 --> 00:33:05,430
And seeing when he needs to stick a wedge on
the last hole of his team match, and he shanks
536
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:07,830
one off to the right and misses the green.
537
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:09,910
That is not Scottie Scheffler.
538
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:13,109
FedEx Cup a couple years ago, shanking one out
539
00:33:13,109 --> 00:33:15,804
of the bunker under pressure,
540
00:33:16,845 --> 00:33:19,964
where he's about to win the FedEx Cup and then
loses it.
541
00:33:21,644 --> 00:33:26,204
These are the areas that I'm like, man, Scottie
Scheffler does really, really well when it's
542
00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:29,724
not the most important thing, when it is
something that he's comfortable in.
543
00:33:31,139 --> 00:33:34,339
But then all of a sudden, Scottie Scheffler,
under these situations.
544
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,179
And I feel for him because it's something that
he can figure out.
545
00:33:38,819 --> 00:33:39,940
He can turn into a
546
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:40,659
strength.
547
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,740
And I do believe that he will eventually figure
it out.
548
00:33:45,045 --> 00:33:51,924
And I'm pulling for him because it sucks to see
him struggle in these Ryder Cups playing as a
549
00:33:51,924 --> 00:33:52,484
team.
550
00:33:53,924 --> 00:33:54,725
Bryson was not
551
00:33:54,725 --> 00:33:55,285
much better.
552
00:33:55,285 --> 00:33:58,220
So you LIV fans out there, for Bryson.
553
00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:00,579
Bryson once again cares so much.
554
00:34:01,059 --> 00:34:05,860
And usually Bryson, when he cares so much, he
tends to perform well in match play.
555
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:07,460
You want Bryson DeChambeau.
556
00:34:09,155 --> 00:34:13,315
Like, it was awesome to see him out there
interacting with the fan base.
557
00:34:13,315 --> 00:34:17,315
Like, yeah, he's that guy that you need in this
team environment.
558
00:34:17,315 --> 00:34:20,034
So but, again, a guy who
559
00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:24,610
almost did not get a point the entire time, and
he played in almost every single match, if I'm
560
00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:25,489
not mistaken.
561
00:34:26,530 --> 00:34:29,010
Same with Scottie until the final day when he
won.
562
00:34:29,969 --> 00:34:32,769
But Bryson and the gutsy performance.
563
00:34:32,929 --> 00:34:39,275
But, again, I will not blame these two guys for
the lack of effort or the lack of caring.
564
00:34:39,675 --> 00:34:41,355
These guys wanted it.
565
00:34:42,234 --> 00:34:44,635
And it's unfortunate that,
566
00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:46,875
they did not get it done.
567
00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,954
I mean, again, running into a buzzsaw.
568
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,420
Europeans were better.
569
00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:55,420
They made more clutch putts, and the U.S.
570
00:34:55,420 --> 00:34:58,619
Team ran into a buzzsaw, in my opinion, in the
two days leading up
571
00:34:58,619 --> 00:34:59,420
to the finals.
572
00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:00,699
Hell of an effort by
573
00:35:00,699 --> 00:35:01,019
the U.S.
574
00:35:01,019 --> 00:35:06,075
Team in individual matches, almost bringing it
back, and I almost forgot to mention about
575
00:35:06,075 --> 00:35:07,275
Viktor Hovland.
576
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:08,795
That rule has to change.
577
00:35:08,954 --> 00:35:10,235
That is stupid.
578
00:35:10,795 --> 00:35:11,114
That if
579
00:35:11,114 --> 00:35:14,394
a guy on your team gets injured, it's an
automatic half.
580
00:35:14,394 --> 00:35:16,875
That changed the entire dynamic of that final
day.
581
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:20,540
Shane Lowry wouldn't have won the cup for them.
582
00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:23,660
The other two matches would have still
mattered.
583
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:28,140
I mean, we lost 15 to 13, so people will say,
well, you still lost.
584
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:29,420
Doesn't matter about the half point.
585
00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:29,900
You still would have
586
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:30,460
lost anyways.
587
00:35:31,614 --> 00:35:33,775
The mindset and the difference when all of
588
00:35:33,775 --> 00:35:39,614
a sudden the whole thing's over and done with
and you can't win, you've lost even though
589
00:35:39,614 --> 00:35:43,295
you're still playing versus grinding it out to
the end.
590
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:46,099
That's a big difference.
591
00:35:47,059 --> 00:35:48,660
And in my opinion, it
592
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:52,579
would have been a pretty big like, I
593
00:35:52,579 --> 00:35:57,059
I think it played a very big mental factor and
we might've seen a different result.
594
00:35:57,059 --> 00:35:57,700
We'll never know.
595
00:35:58,215 --> 00:35:59,255
But that rule has
596
00:35:59,255 --> 00:35:59,894
to change.
597
00:35:59,894 --> 00:36:05,015
That captain's agreement ahead of time that if
a player gets injured, has to withdraw, it's an
598
00:36:05,015 --> 00:36:06,055
automatic half.
599
00:36:07,015 --> 00:36:07,815
Tell you what, in
600
00:36:07,815 --> 00:36:11,974
the words of Rory McIlroy, shut the fuck up
because that is a
601
00:36:11,974 --> 00:36:15,099
terrible, terrible agreement.
602
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,820
If you got an injured player, that's a loss.
603
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:19,739
Bottom line.
604
00:36:20,539 --> 00:36:21,739
Screw that.
605
00:36:21,739 --> 00:36:22,860
I hated that.
606
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:26,780
And when I heard about it, I'm like, that makes
no sense whatsoever.
607
00:36:27,695 --> 00:36:28,494
And it doesn't.
608
00:36:28,494 --> 00:36:30,735
Like, everybody's been in uproar about it.
609
00:36:31,135 --> 00:36:35,934
But, obviously, it did not change the outcome,
and you can sit there and point at that.
610
00:36:35,934 --> 00:36:39,855
But in my opinion, the mindset would have been
different, and we don't know what the outcome
611
00:36:39,855 --> 00:36:44,070
would have been if that had been a full point
to the U.S.
612
00:36:46,469 --> 00:36:47,590
Think about that.
613
00:36:48,309 --> 00:36:52,949
Instead of a half point to the U.S., a full
point, that would have
614
00:36:52,949 --> 00:36:55,190
been a lot more interesting on that Sunday.
615
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:57,875
Might have been the greatest comeback in Ryder
Cup history.
616
00:36:58,275 --> 00:36:59,795
We might have gotten screwed.
617
00:36:59,795 --> 00:37:00,594
Who knows?
618
00:37:02,434 --> 00:37:04,755
But that's all for today, folks.
619
00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:08,195
I appreciate you jumping on to the Ryder Cup
recap.
620
00:37:08,514 --> 00:37:16,820
And, yeah, until next time, which, there might
be some announcements coming up in regards to
621
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:18,099
the live stream.
622
00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:23,219
I don't know if we're going to be doing that
anymore for the remainder of the year.
623
00:37:23,644 --> 00:37:29,484
Might restart in January, but, for the time
being, just be on the lookout for any updates
624
00:37:29,484 --> 00:37:29,885
there.
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Peace out.
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A-Town down.
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,040
Europe records its first Ryder Cup win on U.S.
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soil since 1993.
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00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,119
The final score was Europe 15, USA 13.
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00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:14,320
It was a heck of a Ryder Cup from just being a
weird Ryder Cup.
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00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:23,164
We came all the way back and almost pulled off
the epic comeback upset on that final day in
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00:00:23,164 --> 00:00:24,285
the singles matches.
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We got dominated.
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00:00:25,484 --> 00:00:28,285
I mean, there's no other way to kind of put it.
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Like, if I'm the Europeans, I don't bring on
another captain.
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00:00:32,890 --> 00:00:37,929
But remember, he wasn't even supposed to be the
Ryder Cup captain two years ago.
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So for him to be thrust into that, it was
supposed to be Henrik Stenson who ended up
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going to LIV Golf and then they were like,
yeah, you can't be the captain of the Ryder Cup
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00:00:45,850 --> 00:00:46,090
team.
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00:00:46,284 --> 00:00:49,645
So they had Luke Donald step in and what a job
he did.
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00:00:49,884 --> 00:00:55,005
And then on top of that, showing that he is
such a great captain.
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00:00:55,005 --> 00:00:59,484
Like, it was almost like if you've ever been in
a golf match before and you just run into a
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00:00:59,484 --> 00:01:02,039
buzzsaw, the guy that just can't miss.
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The guy that's making everything.
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That's what the Europeans look like.
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And it came as no surprise whatsoever to myself
as well as to Buttsy or to Brent that were on
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the podcast last week for the Ryder Cup preview
because guess what?
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We called it.
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We said the course setup was really going to
favor the Europeans.
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The Europeans were the favorites heading into
this, we believe.
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On paper, it's the first time that the European
team really stacked up on paper just as good,
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if not better, than the U.S.
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team.
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And we talked about how the crowds like,
hopefully, the crowds would end up helping Team
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USA, and it seemed like it backfired.
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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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And on today's episode, we have the Ryder Cup
recap for 2023.
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And it was an interesting Ryder Cup, needless
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Let's get into today's episode, which is the
Ryder Cup recap.
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And first off, folks, if you've been living
under a rock and don't realize what happened at
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the Ryder Cup, Europe records its first Ryder
Cup win on U.S.
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soil since 2012.
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The final score was Europe 15, USA 13.
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It was a heck of a Ryder Cup from just being a
weird Ryder Cup in my opinion.
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Europe dominated in the team matchups and we
came all the way back and almost pulled off the
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epic comeback upset on that final day in the
singles matches because, man, we were down a
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lot heading into that final day.
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We got dominated.
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I mean, there's no other way to kind of put it,
but I related it this way.
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I was talking with Brent Grant a lot during the
Ryder Cup.
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We were texting back and forth, and he was
saying, ah, the U.S.
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just, you know, they don't have the effort
going into it, which some people, certainly you
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could draw conclusions there and say, oh, the
USA team doesn't really care.
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They didn't really practice hard heading into
this.
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There's a lot of reports out there too around
that part of it that, and I'll get to that in a
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little bit probably towards the end of this
podcast.
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I'll talk a little bit about the reports of as
to how the U.S.
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team prepared or the lack thereof and how that
all turned out.
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But to me, it wasn't an effort.
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It wasn't that the Europeans wanted it more.
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That's not what I saw.
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I saw a lot of emotions coming out
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of the U.S.
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team too.
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where a guy like Scottie Scheffler was
devastated that he hadn't racked up a single
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point throughout all the matches, all the team
matches, I should say.
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And that was very devastating to the U.S.
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team as well.
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But it was almost like if you've ever been in a
golf match before and you just run into a buzz
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saw, the guy that just can't miss, the guy
that's making everything, that's what the
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Europeans looked like.
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And it came as no surprise whatsoever to myself
as well as to Buttsy or to Brent who were on
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the podcast last week for the Ryder Cup preview
because guess what?
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We called it.
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We said the course setup was really going to
favor the Europeans.
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The Europeans were the favorites heading into
this, we believe.
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On paper, it's the first time that the European
team really stacked up on paper just as good,
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if not better, than the U.S.
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team.
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And we talked about how hopefully the crowds
would end up helping Team USA.
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And it seemed like it backfired because in a
lot of ways, and I want to talk about this for
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a minute, that around all the talk that the New
York crowd went too far.
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Like, I've heard the stuff that they were
saying.
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Like, New York fans a lot of times are
intelligent.
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There's a few bad apples for sure that get
through there.
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And were they too much on Rory?
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Yeah.
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They crossed the line with Rory McIlroy.
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But some of these others that you're hearing,
like, some of them are jabs, like funny jabs.
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Like Bobby McIntyre, go on Ozempic, or when are
you going on Ozempic?
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Like, things like that, I don't know if that's
crossing the line for you.
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But for me as a fan of witnessing that, like,
would that be something I'd ever say to him?
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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But it is something that was said out there.
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Now there were some things about Rory with the
cheating and everything, and his wife and kids
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were out there, or at least his wife was out
there.
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And she ended up getting a drink thrown on her.
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Like, there was a whole bunch of stuff that
went across a lot in my opinion.
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And there's no place for that just in sports in
general.
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I do not like the rhetoric and the commentary
around the fact that golf needs to be held to
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this higher standard than other sports.
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No.
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Sports in general need to be held to a higher
standard in my opinion.
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And if it's taking place in basketball,
baseball, football, whatever team sport, it's
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probably gonna happen in golf as well.
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Like, I hate the elitist mentality of golf.
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Like, that's one of the things that I just
absolutely can't stand about this sport is that
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it thinks it's better than everybody else, and
it's not.
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Like, I've played sports growing up, played
team sports.
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Like, if anything, you learn just as much, if
not more in team sports than you do in an
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individual sport like the game of golf.
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Like, yes.
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Are there, you know, ethics being taught?
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Or is there a, I guess you could say, a
gentleman's side to this whole entire sport?
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Absolutely.
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Like, that is traditional golf.
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And do I buy into that?
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Sure.
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Like, I love the fact that golf is a bit of a
mirror of life and that, you know, how you act
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like you're in it on your own and how you act
represents how you look out there on the golf
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course.
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The part that I just don't really buy into is
that it's better than everything else that's
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out there, that you don't learn that in other
sports, sportsmanship, things along those
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lines.
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It's just you gotta have a—and I shouldn't say
you gotta have because that's not the point
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that I'm trying to make.
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It's just I feel like it's on the same level as
all other sports when it comes to we just need
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to see better out of fans.
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I mean, you hear it all the time with Little
League games and so forth of getting the
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parents getting in on the refs or umpires.
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And it's just, yeah, a lot of these things need
to change, but it's in the heat of the moment.
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It's in sports.
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It's about, like, that competitiveness that
comes out.
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And sometimes that competitiveness, even with
fans, is ugly.
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So it's not that I wasn't expected.
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The Europeans handled it beautifully outside
of, I would say, you know, Shane Lowry and Rory
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McIlroy, which people might be like, yeah, but
they're being heckled.
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Like you can't have it both ways.
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You can't be telling fans to shut the F up and
then turning around and saying, you know, we
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expect more out of golfers and the things that
Rory was saying.
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And then Rory even afterwards in the
celebrations putting the European flag over
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Bryson DeChambeau's name and yelling out to the
crowd.
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So those types of things, they don't go hand in
hand.
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And I've seen it like, Paul Azinger talked
about it on the Subpar Golf Podcast.
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So I'm not the only one that has this opinion
in regards to this.
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Like, it is well documented, and, like, a lot
of people are like, man, that's really
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hypocritical of somebody like Rory McIlroy.
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And, of course, the people that don't like Rory
McIlroy because he was the face of the PGA Tour
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versus LIV Golf are obviously talking about
Rory in that way a little bit more negatively
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too.
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Like, oh, it comes out of both sides of his
mouth and so forth.
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Like, I get it.
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I get where you're coming from.
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But to me, like, he dealt with a lot of
frustration and he gave it back.
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So I don't really have a problem with Rory
saying the things that he did.
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I do think afterwards, when he's trying to talk
about how, like, the fans need to be more
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respectful, golf needs to be held to a higher
standard, blah blah blah.
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Like, that's the part that I'm like, okay.
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Now you're a hypocrite because you literally
lowered that level in your responses to those.
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Like, could you have just kept going along your
way without acknowledging it?
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Absolutely.
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But those things get to Rory McIlroy, and I
understand it.
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He's a human being.
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Right?
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We're all human beings.
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So does anybody want to be talked to like that?
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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But it's a hostile environment.
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And I don't think the comparison is to, oh, the
U.S.
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crowd versus the European crowd.
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European crowds just do this.
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It's like, in a lot of ways, it's the same
stuff.
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It's just U.S.
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fans, especially like New Yorkers, they do
their homework.
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They do their research.
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They come into these.
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Like, I've heard of baseball games where, like,
they know about somebody's childhood.
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Like, going into Yankee Stadium, I saw a post
by Chipper Jones, who is the famous infielder
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for the Atlanta Braves.
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And he's like, I would never allow my wife,
family, or kids to come into Yankee Stadium
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because I knew that they were gonna be saying
some horrible things to me during a game.
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Like, you just need to know that.
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And that, in a lot of ways, like, that's a New
York crowd getting under people's skins.
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That's what makes New York in a lot of ways.
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Like, a lot of people aren't gonna understand
this.
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If you're not from New York, you don't get it.
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But that is the home-field advantage a lot of
times in New York.
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Like I worked within virtual reality for Major
League Baseball, for the Major League Baseball
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teams, not for Major League Baseball, but
dealing with the Baltimore Orioles, for
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instance, like they wanted fan noise.
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They wanted heckling.
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They wanted the stuff that was going to be said
during the game to be in there when they go to
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Yankee Stadium because their team always had a
tough time, especially when they had young
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teams to go into Yankee Stadium and to actually
perform.
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They would always technically choke, and they
wanted that preparation to be able to have
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their team ready to go and be able to handle
that when they get in there.
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So I get it from both sides of the spectrum.
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Again, like me, personally, I think that there
were a lot of things that were said that did
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cross the line just in sports in general.
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Again, not a fan of holding golf to an
invisible higher standard.
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I just don't buy it.
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In the least, it's a competitive sport, and
this is a team sport for the Ryder Cup.
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Alright.
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Moving beyond the crowd because that took a lot
of the attention away from the actual Ryder Cup
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itself, in my opinion.
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Like, you even had the broadcasters during the
Ryder Cup talking about it throughout, over and
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over and over again.
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It's like, alright.
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Let's just move on.
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Like, I was even thinking about muting the TV
at a point.
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I'm like, gosh.
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They just keep bringing it up.
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But Europe did what you have to do to shut them
up.
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They won, and they used it as motivation, which
is awesome.
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Like, I love that.
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Like, think of Michael Jordan in basketball as
to how he would use anything he possibly could
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as bulletin board material.
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I also talked about how Luke Donald, on the
other hand, had really prepared his team for
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the New York crowd.
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But in addition to that, all the little details
that he did leading up to the Ryder Cup with
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just how they set up everything, the little
slogans, using "Excelsior" on their golf bags,
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which is the New York state motto.
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Like all these things that he did were the
difference makers in my opinion.
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And he might go down as one of the greatest, if
not the greatest, captain of a Ryder Cup team.
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And remember, he wasn't even supposed to be the
Ryder Cup captain two years ago.
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So for him to be thrust into that, it was
supposed to be Henrik Stenson who ended up
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going to LIV Golf, and then they were like,
yeah, you can't be the captain of the Ryder Cup
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team.
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So they had Luke Donald step in, and what a job
he did.
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And then on top of that, really showing that he
is such a great captain.
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Like, if I'm the Europeans, I don't bring on
another captain.
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Like, I allow Luke Donald to run this thing
until he loses.
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Like, just like a coach.
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Like, Luke, will you continue to do this?
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I think he really thrives in that environment
and really enjoys it.
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And then the European side, you've got
Molinari, which I believe it's Matteo who's the
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stats guy.
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And the entire stats portion, if you I forget
who he went on with.
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Oh, I think it was with No Laying Up.
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He went on and was talking about these stats,
and he knew who would play what holes when
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they're going in alternate shot because of the
shot patterns that they know basically all the
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shot patterns.
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They have it all marked down.
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They have it all notated, and they know exactly
who's going where.
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Then you got on the US side, Scottie Scheffler,
and they're debating whether or not like at the
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last minute, what, who should lead off now?
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Am I the biggest data and analytics guy in the
world?
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No.
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I believe that there is some gut instinct that
comes with playing sports that are the
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intangibles that you can't really get from data
and analytics.
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But when you're putting together a team and
you're putting together who should play
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together and you're looking at alternate shot,
like, those
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things do matter.
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The other side to this is that Tommy Fleetwood
on the European side, to me, he was the
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difference maker.
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Like, Tommy Fleetwood came into this, and
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it was no surprise.
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Dude had been playing so well at the end of the
year throughout the FedEx Cup and then
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obviously winning the Tour Championship.
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The dude was unbelievable.
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So, like, shout out to him and his performance.
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We have somebody on the US side that, in my
opinion, was just as good, and we'll get to
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that in a bit, which is pretty cool to see a
breakout of a US player.
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But Tommy Fleetwood, you've got the MVP for the
Ryder Cup for the European team.
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All class.
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Like, I love the class from Tommy Fleetwood.
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Did he say a peep to the crowd the entire time?
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No.
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Just a great dude and absolutely loved it.
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Now this is the part that gets interesting
because to me, was there an issue with the U.S.
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Ryder Cup team?
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Was Keegan Bradley?
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Did he do a good job as a captain?
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The teams that he was putting out there, a lot
of people were complaining about some of the
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pairings that he put out there.
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I don't have a problem with the pairings.
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Like, I really don't.
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At the end of the day, like, yeah, you can look
at some of the data around some of the pairings
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and be like, that was a terrible decision.
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Hindsight's always 20/20 with all of that
stuff.
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So I don't have a problem with anything Keegan
did.
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Keegan went with what he believed was going to
get them the best outcome.
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Now if you go back two years ago with Zach
Johnson, I feel like the picks and then on top
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of the picks, the pairings that there was a lot
to be excited about with that.
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And I feel like there were mistakes with the
pairings.
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Keegan, not so much.
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I think he made good picks.
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I think he put together good teams.
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So you can argue with me on that.
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I know I've seen some stuff out there about the
pairings being the problem.
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To us on this podcast.
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Last week, we talked about it in detail around
the golf setup or the golf course setup and how
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that was the biggest mistake.
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Even Keegan Bradley in his post-con or
post-press conference afterwards goes into how,
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yeah, the thing that he felt like he might have
screwed up was the course setup and that it
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rained, became super soft, and it basically
became a putting contest to where the Europeans
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are gonna win that.
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Now if you look at strokes gained tee to green,
the U.S.
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dominated.
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So why wouldn't you make the golf course
harder?
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Grow out the rough, make the fairway smaller.
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Like the Europeans were able to spray wherever
they wanted.
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The rough was no factor whatsoever.
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There are so many times where Jon Rahm had
sprayed the golf ball everywhere, and yet he's
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sticking it on his approach shot out of the
rough.
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That one, to me, is the big difference maker.
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And it was something that I had talked to with
Brent about, like I said, on text messages
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going back and forth during the Ryder Cup.
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It's like, yeah, we saw this one coming.
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We were hoping that it was gonna be a lot
closer.
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I did mention that if the U.S.
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was going to win, it was gonna be a very close
victory for the U.S.
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We're all very high on Team Europe.
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We just felt like them coming in made a ton of
sense.
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The big report that just recently came out is
about how the U.S.
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team prepared.
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And if these reports are accurate and that it
is somebody coming out of the U.S. locker
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locker room that's releasing this information,
that's been around the team or was a part of
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this and they want it to be known.
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First of all, put your name to it.
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Like the anonymous reports, I've never been a
big fan of it.
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Have had to do it when we were reporting on,
you know, breaking LIV Golf news and stuff
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along those lines with players that are
potentially signing and so forth and that did
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sign.
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We had to.
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We couldn't add agents' names.
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We couldn't talk about the people in the know
that have that.
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But with a situation like this, if you're going
to drop this type of information, put your name
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on it.
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Like, come out and just say, yes, I am X, Y,
and Z person from the U.S.
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squad, and I don't feel like our preparation
was very good heading into the tournament
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because the report is that the Europeans played
18 holes eight or nine times during the lead-up
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to the Ryder Cup.
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So they went over a week early.
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They were playing the course all the time.
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The U.S.
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decided two weeks prior that everybody's gonna
play in the Pro-Am except for Xander
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Schauffele, who just had a kid and really had
been nursing injuries all year long.
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They come over and they play a couple nine-hole
rounds and some matches to coincide with that,
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but didn't even get in nearly half the amount
of time that the Europeans did on the golf
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course.
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I mentioned this last week.
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The greens at Bethpage are subtle.
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The breaks are subtle.
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You have to play it a lot in order to get those
subtleties to it.
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That did not happen, and clearly, the U.S.
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team missed a lot of clutch putts.
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Now is that just because they're not clutch
putters?
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No.
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We have some of the best putters in the world
on the U.S.
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team.
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Like a Russell Henley, for instance, is a
phenomenal putter.
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We did not see those clutch putts dropping for
the U.S., and we did for Team Europe.
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So if those reports are accurate that the U.S.
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team barely played any practice rounds in the
lead-up to the Ryder Cup, yeah.
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People could be a little bit pissed off in
regards to that.
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And that would have been a fail from a
preparation standpoint because it showed they
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didn't always like, there's a lot of misreads,
a lot of misreads by the U.S.
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team.
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Europe did not have those misreads on the
greens, which it's like, okay.
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That all correlates to this report.
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So I do think that, yeah, is there some legs to
this report?
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Sure.
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Sure could be.
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I don't know for certain.
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I haven't heard it.
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I haven't really reached out to a lot of
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people in regards to it.
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But, again, I don't know.
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Like, it all kinda matches up to what actually
took place.
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The last part that I will mention around all of
this, well, one shout out to Team Europe and
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they even did that Hey Donald clip.
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That's pretty funny.
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And, President Trump responded to it on
Twitter.
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He's like, yes, I'm watching.
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Congratulations.
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The, the part to me
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that in addition to the U.S.
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not preparing properly is what does this mean
for
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2027 at I believe it's Adare Manor is the golf
club that they will be playing at.
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Now Phil Mickelson has had some really poor hot
takes, the one about Scottie Scheffler at the
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beginning of
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the year, how I don't think he's gonna win
before the Ryder Cup and all this.
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And then obviously we see the year that Scottie
Scheffler has had.
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Not always been known for great takes, but this
one I actually enjoy from Phil Mickelson is his
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suggestion of bringing in, like, a famous
basketball coach, like a Coach K, or like a
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football coach, like Lou Holtz, which I don't
know if Lou Holtz would be the right guy for
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this.
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But somebody who understands golf has an
analytics team, obviously, that is there as
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well, that is helping out with some of the
number side to it like Molinari did for the
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European team.
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But I kinda like that idea of bringing in
somebody who's an actual leader of a team, team
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sports, and can actually go in and provide some
direction, some motivation, and help them
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understand what the team aspect really is and
what that looks like.
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I would love to know, like, what is, I think
Phil Mickelson would be a very polarizing
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captain.
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I don't think it's feasible at this point with
how much damage has been done, the
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relationships with guys and so forth that play
on the PGA Tour.
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I just don't think that Phil Mickelson as a
captain makes a whole lot of sense.
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But in that same breath, like, who does?
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Like, are we really going to see Tiger Woods be
the captain of the Ryder Cup team?
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I did say that, man, if we've lost Bethpage and
we end up going international, that that was
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the time that Tiger would step in, that there's
so much benefit to him being the captain and if
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he wins.
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If you lose on international soil, we did see
it was Zach Johnson because we had high
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expectations for that team.
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And then the picks were off.
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Like, there were a lot of things that were done
poorly that he got a lot of the blame for.
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We're, like, losing two in a row, there's not
that much at risk if you're Tiger Woods.
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There's more to gain, I should say.
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Like, there's still risk.
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There's still, oh my gosh.
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If you guys lose and if the U.S.
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did lose, then but it's international soil.
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Like, it's somewhat to be expected now that
when you go over to the other
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countries, golf courses, and fans that you're
not expected to win.
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So to me, Tiger Woods, there's so
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much upside to him potentially doing this and
becoming the Ryder Cup captain that it just
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makes a ton of sense in my opinion.
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You might feel otherwise and you might have a
difference of opinion about Tiger Woods, but a
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lot of these guys look up to him.
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I think he would just be a great
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person to captain a team.
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Now do I know if Tiger would be a good leader
in that situation or not?
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I have no idea.
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No idea whatsoever.
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But, again, like, who else are you gonna get to
be
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the captain of the team at this point?
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Again, I like Phil's idea.
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Bring in a coach, a U.S.
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coach, somebody who's coached a USA Team.
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Like, I love the idea of Coach K.
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I thought that that was actually a great
suggestion.
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But before we jump off here, I do wanna give a
shoutout to one guy on the U.S.
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team that just stood above everybody else, and
that is Cameron Young.
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Cameron Young from New York, father pro over at
Sleepy Hollow, and Cameron Young, whoo.
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Unreal performance out of him.
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And I know he had just won not that long ago.
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Getting that first victory builds a lot of
confidence, but his putting, he had fixed his
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putting, and it showed because he made clutch
putt after clutch putt.
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The dude was phenomenal.
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And I think we actually started to see his
personality for the first time out there.
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That fire because, otherwise, he's very stoic,
very calm.
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Like, a lot of people are just, like, that know
him or, like, have been around him or just,
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like, there's not a ton of personality there,
which I think, you know, you could be reserved,
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introvert, being a golfer, and you might not
show it all the time.
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But seeing that competitive fire out of him and
seeing him perform and being clutch, I think
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the U.S.
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has a guy now that you can count on when it
comes to the Ryder Cup.
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You're picking Cameron Young, and that dude is
your stud.
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That is your horse going into the next Ryder
Cup.
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And hopefully, it is not just because it was
Bethpage Black that it was New York.
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Like, I do think that his game translates so
well to match play type situations and just
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being a great teammate as well because, dude,
bombs it a mile, has good iron game, and now is
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a good putter as well to coincide to that.
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Like, he fixed his putting.
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He just looked awesome out there.
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So shout out Cameron Young.
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You are by far the MVP of that U.S.
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team.
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And, yeah, love that.
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He was a New Yorker too.
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Scottie and Bryson,
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as we wrap up this episode, I feel bad for
Scottie Scheffler.
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Scottie Scheffler has not performed well in
Ryder Cups.
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And I don't know if you guys see this or not,
but to me, he's never been one that under the
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00:30:04,484 --> 00:30:08,964
clutch moments outside of certain instances.
497
00:30:09,285 --> 00:30:12,325
I'm not saying that it's just a blanket
statement here.
498
00:30:12,404 --> 00:30:17,525
But, like, when he was gonna get the record,
when he was going to win the Masters for the
499
00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:25,039
first time, there's just moments where Scottie
Scheffler and I, and, I mean, you can go back
500
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:30,079
and look and see there are a lot of these
moments where, like, he still wins.
501
00:30:32,414 --> 00:30:37,535
And you might not look at them and go, oh, man.
502
00:30:37,535 --> 00:30:42,174
Like, that's a little chink in the armor.
503
00:30:42,575 --> 00:30:47,519
That is something that he just hasn't figured
out yet.
504
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,039
And to me, there's a clutchness, and it's
different with different types of pressure.
505
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,519
When he's very comfortable, he's got everything
going his way.
506
00:30:58,694 --> 00:31:01,335
He is very, very good.
507
00:31:01,654 --> 00:31:07,335
And you could say that he's clutch in those
moments and wins golf tournaments, wins them by
508
00:31:07,335 --> 00:31:08,054
a lot.
509
00:31:08,694 --> 00:31:14,059
But there are other pressure moments when
getting records, when winning for the first
510
00:31:14,059 --> 00:31:17,019
time a major championship, these different
things.
511
00:31:17,019 --> 00:31:21,980
Remember, he four-putted that final hole, and
that is a bugaboo in my opinion about Scottie
512
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:30,684
Scheffler is that he's one of these guys whose
talent is so dang, like, better than everybody
513
00:31:30,684 --> 00:31:34,684
else that you can't quite see it with the naked
eye.
514
00:31:35,085 --> 00:31:40,044
You have to understand it in order to
understand that Scottie Scheffler struggles
515
00:31:41,109 --> 00:31:43,109
in certain pressure situations.
516
00:31:44,390 --> 00:31:52,230
And we see it at the Ryder Cup when this is
bigger than him, it's for his country, and all
517
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:52,390
of
518
00:31:52,390 --> 00:32:01,045
a sudden it's not just, you know, his usual of
how do I even put this?
519
00:32:01,525 --> 00:32:05,845
Because he's made golf secondary or actually
third.
520
00:32:06,019 --> 00:32:08,899
There's God, there's his family, and then
there's golf.
521
00:32:08,899 --> 00:32:11,379
And he made that point at the Open
Championship.
522
00:32:11,379 --> 00:32:13,859
I've talked about it numerous times on this
podcast.
523
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:20,099
I think that is a really powerful place to play
from as it's not the most important thing in
524
00:32:20,099 --> 00:32:20,659
the world to him.
525
00:32:21,365 --> 00:32:27,605
The Ryder Cup kinda shifts that pressure, and
it kinda elevates it to where it is bigger than
526
00:32:27,605 --> 00:32:28,085
him.
527
00:32:28,805 --> 00:32:33,365
But it's not like, it's something that he
actually really cares about.
528
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:37,129
And that's why I don't think the effort side to
it of saying that the U.S.
529
00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:38,249
team doesn't care.
530
00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:40,009
Like, Scottie Scheffler cares.
531
00:32:40,009 --> 00:32:41,449
Like, that dude was crying.
532
00:32:41,849 --> 00:32:44,009
He cried two years ago.
533
00:32:44,649 --> 00:32:49,774
Like, Scottie Scheffler cares, but he might
care a little bit too much, and that adds an
534
00:32:49,774 --> 00:32:53,054
additional level of pressure that he's not
comfortable with.
535
00:32:53,855 --> 00:33:05,430
And seeing when he needs to stick a wedge on
the last hole of his team match, and he shanks
536
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:07,830
one off to the right and misses the green.
537
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:09,910
That is not Scottie Scheffler.
538
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:13,109
FedEx Cup a couple years ago, shanking one out
539
00:33:13,109 --> 00:33:15,804
of the bunker under pressure,
540
00:33:16,845 --> 00:33:19,964
where he's about to win the FedEx Cup and then
loses it.
541
00:33:21,644 --> 00:33:26,204
These are the areas that I'm like, man, Scottie
Scheffler does really, really well when it's
542
00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:29,724
not the most important thing, when it is
something that he's comfortable in.
543
00:33:31,139 --> 00:33:34,339
But then all of a sudden, Scottie Scheffler,
under these situations.
544
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,179
And I feel for him because it's something that
he can figure out.
545
00:33:38,819 --> 00:33:39,940
He can turn into a
546
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:40,659
strength.
547
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,740
And I do believe that he will eventually figure
it out.
548
00:33:45,045 --> 00:33:51,924
And I'm pulling for him because it sucks to see
him struggle in these Ryder Cups playing as a
549
00:33:51,924 --> 00:33:52,484
team.
550
00:33:53,924 --> 00:33:54,725
Bryson was not
551
00:33:54,725 --> 00:33:55,285
much better.
552
00:33:55,285 --> 00:33:58,220
So you LIV fans out there, for Bryson.
553
00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:00,579
Bryson once again cares so much.
554
00:34:01,059 --> 00:34:05,860
And usually Bryson, when he cares so much, he
tends to perform well in match play.
555
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:07,460
You want Bryson DeChambeau.
556
00:34:09,155 --> 00:34:13,315
Like, it was awesome to see him out there
interacting with the fan base.
557
00:34:13,315 --> 00:34:17,315
Like, yeah, he's that guy that you need in this
team environment.
558
00:34:17,315 --> 00:34:20,034
So but, again, a guy who
559
00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:24,610
almost did not get a point the entire time, and
he played in almost every single match, if I'm
560
00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:25,489
not mistaken.
561
00:34:26,530 --> 00:34:29,010
Same with Scottie until the final day when he
won.
562
00:34:29,969 --> 00:34:32,769
But Bryson and the gutsy performance.
563
00:34:32,929 --> 00:34:39,275
But, again, I will not blame these two guys for
the lack of effort or the lack of caring.
564
00:34:39,675 --> 00:34:41,355
These guys wanted it.
565
00:34:42,234 --> 00:34:44,635
And it's unfortunate that,
566
00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:46,875
they did not get it done.
567
00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,954
I mean, again, running into a buzzsaw.
568
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,420
Europeans were better.
569
00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:55,420
They made more clutch putts, and the U.S.
570
00:34:55,420 --> 00:34:58,619
Team ran into a buzzsaw, in my opinion, in the
two days leading up
571
00:34:58,619 --> 00:34:59,420
to the finals.
572
00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:00,699
Hell of an effort by
573
00:35:00,699 --> 00:35:01,019
the U.S.
574
00:35:01,019 --> 00:35:06,075
Team in individual matches, almost bringing it
back, and I almost forgot to mention about
575
00:35:06,075 --> 00:35:07,275
Viktor Hovland.
576
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:08,795
That rule has to change.
577
00:35:08,954 --> 00:35:10,235
That is stupid.
578
00:35:10,795 --> 00:35:11,114
That if
579
00:35:11,114 --> 00:35:14,394
a guy on your team gets injured, it's an
automatic half.
580
00:35:14,394 --> 00:35:16,875
That changed the entire dynamic of that final
day.
581
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:20,540
Shane Lowry wouldn't have won the cup for them.
582
00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:23,660
The other two matches would have still
mattered.
583
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:28,140
I mean, we lost 15 to 13, so people will say,
well, you still lost.
584
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:29,420
Doesn't matter about the half point.
585
00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:29,900
You still would have
586
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:30,460
lost anyways.
587
00:35:31,614 --> 00:35:33,775
The mindset and the difference when all of
588
00:35:33,775 --> 00:35:39,614
a sudden the whole thing's over and done with
and you can't win, you've lost even though
589
00:35:39,614 --> 00:35:43,295
you're still playing versus grinding it out to
the end.
590
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:46,099
That's a big difference.
591
00:35:47,059 --> 00:35:48,660
And in my opinion, it
592
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:52,579
would have been a pretty big like, I
593
00:35:52,579 --> 00:35:57,059
I think it played a very big mental factor and
we might've seen a different result.
594
00:35:57,059 --> 00:35:57,700
We'll never know.
595
00:35:58,215 --> 00:35:59,255
But that rule has
596
00:35:59,255 --> 00:35:59,894
to change.
597
00:35:59,894 --> 00:36:05,015
That captain's agreement ahead of time that if
a player gets injured, has to withdraw, it's an
598
00:36:05,015 --> 00:36:06,055
automatic half.
599
00:36:07,015 --> 00:36:07,815
Tell you what, in
600
00:36:07,815 --> 00:36:11,974
the words of Rory McIlroy, shut the fuck up
because that is a
601
00:36:11,974 --> 00:36:15,099
terrible, terrible agreement.
602
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,820
If you got an injured player, that's a loss.
603
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:19,739
Bottom line.
604
00:36:20,539 --> 00:36:21,739
Screw that.
605
00:36:21,739 --> 00:36:22,860
I hated that.
606
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:26,780
And when I heard about it, I'm like, that makes
no sense whatsoever.
607
00:36:27,695 --> 00:36:28,494
And it doesn't.
608
00:36:28,494 --> 00:36:30,735
Like, everybody's been in uproar about it.
609
00:36:31,135 --> 00:36:35,934
But, obviously, it did not change the outcome,
and you can sit there and point at that.
610
00:36:35,934 --> 00:36:39,855
But in my opinion, the mindset would have been
different, and we don't know what the outcome
611
00:36:39,855 --> 00:36:44,070
would have been if that had been a full point
to the U.S.
612
00:36:46,469 --> 00:36:47,590
Think about that.
613
00:36:48,309 --> 00:36:52,949
Instead of a half point to the U.S., a full
point, that would have
614
00:36:52,949 --> 00:36:55,190
been a lot more interesting on that Sunday.
615
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:57,875
Might have been the greatest comeback in Ryder
Cup history.
616
00:36:58,275 --> 00:36:59,795
We might have gotten screwed.
617
00:36:59,795 --> 00:37:00,594
Who knows?
618
00:37:02,434 --> 00:37:04,755
But that's all for today, folks.
619
00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:08,195
I appreciate you jumping on to the Ryder Cup
recap.
620
00:37:08,514 --> 00:37:16,820
And, yeah, until next time, which, there might
be some announcements coming up in regards to
621
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:18,099
the live stream.
622
00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:23,219
I don't know if we're going to be doing that
anymore for the remainder of the year.
623
00:37:23,644 --> 00:37:29,484
Might restart in January, but, for the time
being, just be on the lookout for any updates
624
00:37:29,484 --> 00:37:29,885
there.
625
00:37:29,885 --> 00:37:34,045
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Thank you, everybody.
631
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:48,000
Peace out.
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A-Town down.