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Want to know where AI can creep into your book project—even if you never intended to use it to “write your book”? This is the second episode in my four-part series on AI and nonfiction writing, and this time I’m walking through the places I’ve actually seen AI enter authors’ projects at every stage of the publishing process.
In this episode, I share real examples from writing, editing, cover design, and marketing. I talk about what happens when an LLM starts making repetitive writing choices, why AI can become especially tempting when you hit the blinking-cursor problem, how authors can accidentally outsource their editorial judgment, and why using AI to “just organize ideas” or “just brainstorm” may be doing more of the creative work than you realize.
I also explain why I keep coming back to the same concern: AI is most tempting when its certainty meets your insecurity. My professional recommendation is still to keep generative AI out of the creative work of writing your book—and to be cautious about the places it can slip into the rest of the publishing process too.
Key topics
- Why AI can enter a book project even when the author never planned to use it
- Why fear and insecurity make LLMs especially tempting
- Why AI-generated prose can become impossible to simply “edit”
- How outsourcing difficult passages can interrupt your development as a writer
- How LLMs can confidently validate an editorial opinion that is simply wrong
- Why AI-generated cover ideas can pull a book away from its genre and market
- Why “I’m just using it to brainstorm” may be more consequential than it sounds
Resources mentioned
Free Memoir Method Checklist
https://pageandpodium.com/checklist
Page & Podium Publishing
Learn more about our collaborative publishing process:
https://pageandpodium.com/publishing/
Manuscript Review
Get a professional 10,000-foot view of your manuscript, including what’s working, what needs attention, and a step-by-step revision plan:
https://pageandpodium.com/manuscript/
Page & Podium Blog
Writing, revision, publishing, and book-marketing resources:
https://pageandpodium.com/blog
Jess Sato: “Why I’m on an AI Detox”
Jess talks about how relying on AI for ideation and drafting affected her creativity—and what happened when she stepped away from it:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/why-im-on-an-ai-detox/id1712906510?i=1000785767092
Timestamps
0:00 How AI Is Creeping Into Book Projects
0:29 Part 2 of the Four-Part AI Series
0:59 Free Memoir Method Checklist
1:31 Why Authors Turn to AI
4:27 How Page & Podium Approaches Publishing
6:46 Start Here: AI in the Writing Process
7:44 AI-Generated Manuscripts
9:33 Repetition and AI Writing Patterns
11:25 Can AI Make It Harder to Write Without It?
13:17 AI in the Editing Process
15:04 When AI Writing Doesn’t Sound Like You
16:04 The Blinking-Cursor Problem
18:36 AI and Structural Editing
19:15 A Ghostwriting Example
22:04 Why You Shouldn’t Ask AI to Judge Your Editor
24:48 AI in Cover Design
27:24 When AI Sends a Cover Off Course
28:45 Why Comparable Titles Matter
30:27 AI in Book Marketing
31:54 AI and Thought Leadership
32:54 Jess Sato’s AI Detox
33:51 The Problem With “I’m Just Using AI For…”
35:17 What to Do If AI Is Already in Your Project
36:11 What’s Coming Next in the Series
36:38 Final Reminder: Download the Checklist
This is episode two of a four-part series on AI and nonfiction writing. In the next episode, I’ll dig further into how AI affects thought leadership and what happens when we begin outsourcing the thinking behind our ideas.
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I founded Page in Podium Press on the
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very human premise that our lived
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experience teaches us so much about the
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world on helping people to claim that
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expertise and step forward to both tell
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their stories and share what they have
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learned. And because I see this as such
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a deeply human proposition, y'all, it
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shook me how I have seen AI coming into
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author's projects. So today I want to
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continue our four-part series on AI by
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talking about the ways that I have seen
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AI creep into author's projects at every
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step from writing to publishing. I'm Dr.
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Amanda Nell Edgar. This is the page and
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podium podcast and today is our second
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episode in our four-part AI series
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discussing how AI can infiltrate every
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stage of the publishing process. Stay
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tuned.
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Most memoirs don't stall because of lack
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of time. Most memoirs stall because of
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lack of clarity. And that's why I put
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together the memoir method checklist.
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The idea here is to give you every
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single step in the process. Not because
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that makes it easy, of course not, but
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because no project is ever completed
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until you know what the steps in the
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process actually are. You can download
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it free at pagenpodium.com/checklist.
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As I teased in the intro to this video,
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I am seeing AI everywhere. Places that I
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never anticipated that I would see it.
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Particularly because I know that the
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folks that come to work with Paige and
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Podium share the same human values that
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I do. I know that when folks come to
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work with me and particularly some of
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these are folks that I have talked to, I
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know that we are on the same page in
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terms of our values. And what really got
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me thinking about AI in terms of
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writing, what really prompted this
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series actually was realizing that the
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reason that that's happening is not that
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anyone is trying to necessarily game or
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cheat the system, but it is the same
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thing that I have talked about week
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after week for now going on over three
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years on this podcast. The reason that
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folks are turning to LLMs in so many
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cases on these books they care so deeply
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about is the same old story. It is the
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sense of insecurity and fear that LLMs
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promise it will push us past. They
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promise us if we just use Claude to
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quote unquote clean up our writing, we
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won't have to face that difficulty, that
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struggle, that discomfort of not being
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as good at the process as we would like.
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Even though our idea is so rooted in
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humanity. Now this is a really human
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issue, right? We as humans really want
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security. We want predictability. We
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want safety. And one of the things that
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bookw writing is always going to do is
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push us out of those exact arenas. Bookw
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writing is one of the things that is the
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most vulnerable and particularly when
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we're talking about books that pull from
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your personal story. It feels like you
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are naked in Time Square. So I
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understand why AI is coming into these
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workflows. I get it. I am sympathetic in
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fact. But what unfortunately I'm seeing
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over and over is that even though I can
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understand why folks would pull in an
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LLM or other AI to finish or quote
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unquote improve their manuscript, it is
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never a good choice. So I wanted to talk
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about some examples that I have seen
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recently that I think can just help give
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you some kind of groundwork, some
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framework to think about how this might
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happen to you and if you want to choose
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to use AI, how you can at least make
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sure that you are making that choice
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from a grounded, measured, informed
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place rather than from the fear and
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insecurity and panic that I know come up
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for literally everyone at some point in
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this process, myself included, by the
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way. So, as we dive in, as I said, I
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want to move through each stage of the
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publishing process. And specifically, I
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want to let you know that I am, of
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course, going to be narrating the way
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that Page and Podium uses this
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publishing process. Now, if you're
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interested in learning a little more
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about what we do in terms of publishing
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at Pagen Podium, you can visit
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pageandpodium.com/publishing
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and it will talk us through our process.
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Now, one of the things that is really,
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really integral to how we do our work at
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Page and Podium is that every step of
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this process is collaborative. We really
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pride ourselves and in fact have built
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out our entire structural framework
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around the idea that firsttime authors
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not only need but deserve an industry
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professional to really not only walk
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them through the process but help them
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understand why different decisions are
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being made, why they need to be made
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within what parameters they need to be
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made so that the author never feels as
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though their work has been ripped away
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from them. We always want you to feel as
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though we are in your corner, holding
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your hand if you need it, but mostly
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cheering you on and making sure you have
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all of the information you need to make
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the decisions that you need to make in
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again this highly, highly vulnerable
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kind of scary process. So, as I am
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talking through these steps, I just want
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to be clear. This is the page and podium
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process. Different presses are going to
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vary in how they move through this
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process, but I really wanted to give you
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some examples that really are from our
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workflow. And again, from authors that I
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don't judge or necessarily blame for
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using LLMs or AI, I understand the heavy
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heavy impulse to use it, particularly
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when we're being told all the time that
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we're going to be quote unquote left
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behind if we don't get on board the AI
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bandwagon. Well, friends, I don't
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believe that's true. And in fact, the
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evidence, the examples I'm going to give
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you today, I think will make it pretty
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clear that LLMs are not going to make
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your book better. So, in fact, maybe we
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actually should just agree to be left
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behind by AI when it comes to writing
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our non-fiction books. I certainly am
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very much okay with being left behind
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when it comes to my own writing because
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I'm a better writer than Claude. So all
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right with that and speaking of writing
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we are starting at the writing point. So
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first thing I want to say if you have
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not watched the first episode in this
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series it just aired last week. Go back
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and listen to that first because I'm
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going to give a little bit of a
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framework in that first episode about
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how LLMs work. But for our purposes here
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when I'm talking about AI and LLMs, I'm
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actually going to use those
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interchangeably here. They are not
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actually interchangeable, but I have
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talked to enough clients, talked to
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enough authors to know that typically we
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are thinking of those as one thing. Now,
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I'm not going to fight it. We're just
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going to go with it. So, if you have not
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listened to last week's episode, go pick
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that up for now. When I say LLM, large
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language model, I just simply mean
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something like chat GPT or Claude. any
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of these um generative AI programs are
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typically trained as an LLM large
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language model. Okay. So the first stage
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that I want to start at as I said is the
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writing stage. Now most of the folks
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that I talked to aren't planning to use
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AI to write their whole manuscript. It's
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often they're kind of wanting to use it
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for bits and pieces. But this first
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author that I worked with for a while
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was somebody that had kind of imagined,
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I think, that she would use the LLM for
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the entire manuscript. Now, this is a
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while ago that this happened, so I'm not
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sure if this would have gone the same
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way now, but effectively what happened
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was as we had started to work together.
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She was putting out chapters by asking
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Claude or I'm actually not sure, Claude
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or Chat GPT, whichever it was, to write
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her chapter and then she would copy and
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paste it into a Microsoft Word document.
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Now, I did not know that this was
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happening at first, but it became very
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obvious to me. And the way it became
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obvious to me was that I was seeing the
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exact same choices being made over and
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over again. Now, if you have not watched
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that episode from last week, let me tell
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you this is actually a signature of the
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LLM of a large language model generative
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AI type of writing. Unfortunately,
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because what the LLM is trying to do is
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make the most probable choices with the
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highest level of efficiency. That means
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that if you like a choice it makes, it
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will keep making that choice over and
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over and over and over and over again.
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And unfortunately, even if you don't
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like a choice it makes, even if you tell
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it you don't like a choice it makes,
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what we have found in research across
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the board is that human writers will
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make a much wider range of choices than
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an LLM, than a generative AI. So
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literally what was happening as I was
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reading through this AI written
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manuscript is I would not only see the
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same sentence sometimes appearing
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multiple times, I would also see the
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exact same formula on the page. And I
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bet you've seen it too. I bet I don't
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even need to go into such depth because
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it literally was the exact same pattern.
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It would start with a setup and then it
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would go to this is what this means
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colon and make a really bold
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declaration. Then it would give a list
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of synonyms. Effectively, every single
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page looked exactly the same. There was
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repeated information. There was also
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contradicting information, of course.
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But the repetition made it so I could
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not even edit the work. I actually had
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to tell her I could not work with her
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because even though this was clearly AI
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generated, she was pretty dug in that
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she wanted to keep using AI. And at some
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point there is really no editing that
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when the choices have been made at the
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sentence and paragraph and page level
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structure to be so repetitive, you can't
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edit it. You're going to have to rewrite
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it again. And unfortunately, one thing I
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have seen is that when folks are using
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AI, it is very very difficult for them
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to write something then as a human. So,
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even if this author had decided she
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didn't want to use an LLM anymore, I
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don't know whether she would have been
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able to write it as a human because
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she'd already put all of those stories
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into Claude or Chad GBT or whatever it
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was. So, this is I know a little bit of
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an unbounded type of story just because
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we kind of don't know the outcome. We
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kind of don't know a lot that was
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happening behind the scenes here. All I
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can tell you is that this writing was so
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obviously AI to me and she disagreed.
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And you know, maybe she was not using an
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LLM. I really can't know for certain,
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but it seemed pretty clear to me that
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she was. And it seemed pretty clear to
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me that she had gotten stuck in an AI
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loop. Now, this is one thing that I
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really want to give you as kind of a
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takeaway here. So, if you're
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multitasking, come back to me. One of
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the things that I have seen, not
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directly tested in studies, but I've
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seen enough implications that would
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point toward this issue is that I really
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suspect that there is an amount of LLM
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use that will stop you from being able
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to produce your own writing. And I want
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to put this in a context. Someone shared
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this with me on LinkedIn and I found it
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so so helpful. They were saying, "Do you
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remember I do remember back when you
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didn't have any GPS in your car?" And at
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one point then you could kind of print a
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map quest or something like that, but
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you didn't have anything directing you
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on the ground. And at that point, if
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you're like me, you pretty much just
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knew where you were going. You learned
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the different routes. You learned how
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the streets intersected. You learned
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your city's grid. All this type of
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stuff. Well, now, do you know your whole
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city's grid? Now, do you know easily how
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to get to any place you want to go? I'll
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tell you, I don't. I use GPS for almost
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everything. Although, after that fellow
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shared that with me on LinkedIn, I have
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tried to be a little bit more cognizant
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of using my own brain. My point is, I
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don't know why we would assume that a
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GPS can stop us from knowing how to get
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places in our town, but an LLM can't
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stop us from knowing how to write. I
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think they're pretty much the same
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mechanism and based on the studies that
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I have read about AI, which is a lot at
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this point, there is evidence pointing
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toward the AI making us less effective
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as decision makers. That's all writing
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is a series of choices. So, this is the
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biggest caution that I have for y'all is
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pulling an LLM or AI into the writing
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process.
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Now I want to give a couple of examples
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for my second point which is the editing
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process. And the first of these is kind
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of stuck between writing and editing
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because this is editing that happened
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before this author brought their
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manuscript to us. Now with this
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particular author, this is such a good
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book by the way and we are working now
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to deiify it. So that is something that
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can happen. We can do that. we can pull
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you out of that loop if you have gotten
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stuck in AI land. But I'm so excited
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that this author is willing to work on
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deiifying
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because this manuscript was fantastic.
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Now, I could tell that she had used AI
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in some places, but I also felt pretty
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confident that there were places that
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she had not used AI. This is just a gut
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level reaction from me. As someone
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though who has been working with authors
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for a really long time, who has read a
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lot of firstdraft manuscripts, both
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very, very clean and very, very messy.
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There were parts in there that I felt
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really certain were human, but there
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were also parts that she had shared with
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me that they were AI written. Now, this
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author had submitted her manuscript for
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a manuscript review, and that is the
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first stage really in working with us in
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most capacities. if you have a
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manuscript. You can read more about
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that, by the way, at
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pageandpodium.com/manuscript.
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So, she'd submitted her manuscript for a
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review. And when we met to discuss the
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review, to make a game plan moving
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forward, decide what the book needed,
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all of that, she said to me, "You know
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what? I went back and looked at those
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passages that you pointed out as AI, and
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you're right. They don't sound at all
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like me." And they didn't. And this is
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the thing that I want to pull to your
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attention because I suspect that most of
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the time when people are using AI in
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spots. So maybe it's a paragraph you
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just you can't quite get your head
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around. Maybe it's something you're
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trying to summarize that you don't know
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very well and it kind of seems like a
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shortcut. Maybe you're wanting your
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scene to be very very exciting, but
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you're not sure how to write an exciting
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scene. All three examples I've seen
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before, by the way. What I see very
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often is that that will seem like such a
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good idea. LLM will give you the output.
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They'll put it into their manuscript.
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Sometimes edited a bit, sometimes not.
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But then when they come back to it, it
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is not nearly as good of writing as they
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thought. So what is happening here?
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Well, I suspect that there is something
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to be said about the speed of generating
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the words on the page. And actually a
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client said this to me the other day. He
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said, "Well, this gets rid of the
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blinking cursor problem." That is true.
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And the blinking cursor problem, that
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thing where you're just staring at the
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blinking cursor on a blank page and
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really talking yourself out of whether
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you can do this or not, that's a real
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phenomenon. And what I suspect is
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happening is that people are trading off
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getting rid of that blinking cursor
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syndrome in exchange for something that
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they know is probably not going to be as
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good of an output. But then the AI is
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almost magic, right? All of those words
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show up on the page and they're not as
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bad as you thought they might be. In
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fact, maybe they could work. And then
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what happens? We drop them in our
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manuscript. We forget about it. And then
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when we come back to it later, oh, maybe
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that looks a little different. Now we're
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suddenly not so impressed with this
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lightning fast output. we're not so
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impressed with the particular voice
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because again there are pretty major
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issues with the writing that comes out
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of an AI out of an LLM. So I suspect
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this is something that will be relatable
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if you were somebody who had dabbled at
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all in using an LLM using AI for your
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creative writing. So when you are moving
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forward as you are thinking of editing
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your manuscript I really just want to
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discourage you from bailing out at that
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point that it seems like it's too hard.
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That is in fact the exact point of
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learning. I've said often on this
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channel before when you are writing a
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book especially a memoir but really any
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book that is using your lived experience
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a lot of what you are doing is building
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your capacity for discomfort. Well, when
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we use AI in this way where we can't
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figure out just this one paragraph or
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just this one sentence, that is
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effectively shortcircuiting your ability
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to expand that capacity for discomfort
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because now you are not sitting in the
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discomfort figuring out what the answer
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is. You're skipping the discomfort to
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get the answer, but you still don't
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know. You still haven't practiced how to
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get that answer, right? you still
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haven't had to work your way through to
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build those synapses in your brain so
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that the next time you hit that problem,
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you now know how to solve it. Instead,
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you offloaded that decision-making. You
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offloaded that skill of making a
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difficult choice. So pull that back in
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so that in your first draft you can push
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through that discomfort and continue
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building this very very important muscle
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of decision-m in your writing. Okay, I
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have a second example from this editing
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bucket that I want to share with you
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that is at a different level. So we've
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got the voice level, but I'm also seeing
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some AI troubles with the structure
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level. Now, one of these really
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surprised me actually, and this is from
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a book, this is a little while ago that
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we had ghostritten. Now, the woman that
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had hired us to ghostwrite this memoir,
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it is a highly, highly traumatic memoir.
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Um, it has a lot of sexual trauma, a lot
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of domestic abuse, a lot of um intimate
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partner violence, that kind of thing all
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throughout. But it's quite a beautiful
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book. It's quite powerful. Now, of
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course, our ghostriters do not use LLMs
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or AI generated text in ghostwritten
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work. But what had happened in this case
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was our ghostwriter had written the
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chapter for this client. And as we had
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moved through the book, she had really
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been so so happy with the output. She
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had really been loving it. But you know
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what I have talked about before just
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last month? Often times when we start to
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get to the end of the book, things get
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kind of scary. And I think that was part
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of what happened here because we had
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delivered our final chapter to her. And
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I had read this chapter as I do with all
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of the ghostritten materials in page and
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podium. I had reviewed it before it went
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out and I really liked it. There was a
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really interesting device that the
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ghostwriter had used here and that was
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that even though this was a memoir. So
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throughout the memoir, it had been in
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first person. As she moved into the
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final chapter, she was kind of
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transitioning into a second person, a U
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so that she could on behalf of this
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author directly address the reader and
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just really make sure that the
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connection was very clear between what
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she was urging the reader to do and what
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she had experienced herself. Now this
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second person device is not something
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that we had created at page and podium
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and in fact in our um formerly our book
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club. We had even discussed a book that
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had used this device and it works so so
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well in particular types of books. I
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really liked the choice. I thought it
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was really interesting and I thought it
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pulled the reader in in a more direct
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type of way that really worked well in
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my opinion for this book. Well, the
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author didn't like that second person
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use. And you know what, friends? That's
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okay. We're not always going to agree.
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When folks work with us on ghostriting,
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we are never forcing you to accept a
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choice you don't like. But the reason
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that I bring this up is that typically
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how we will do this process is if there
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is something in the manuscript that the
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author doesn't like, they will bring
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that to the ghost writer and just try to
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articulate what they didn't like about
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it. Now, can people who are nonriters
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always successfully communicate what it
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was they didn't like? Not always,
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because there's a lot of terminology, a
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lot of different structural things. If
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you're hiring a ghostriter, you're not
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really in that type of world. That makes
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it really hard. But the fact that an
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author struggles to communicate with
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their ghostriter is not a deal
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breakaker. In fact, we are all used to
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that as ghostriters. And in fact, one of
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the things we crucially need is to hear
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you struggle through why you don't like
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something or why you do like something.
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The reason is often times it's just the
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like and don't like at the surface, but
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there's something deeper that we need to
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address to really make the manuscript
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work. This is collaborative
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ghostwriting, right? We are building
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this out together.
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But because in this case AI is so
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accessible, what this author had
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actually done was put the chapter into
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an LLM and coached it. Said, "I don't
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like this use of you. Can you tell me
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why I don't like it?" Well, of course,
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this LLM just spit out to her a totally
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clean response that never ever should
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you use second person in memoir. No one
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has ever done it. It is not consistent
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with the genre. It's bad writing. Y'all,
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please don't do this. The problem here
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is that not only do we now not know
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what's actually happening beneath the
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surface of this author's reaction to her
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manuscript, we now also have to reassure
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this author that no, in fact, this was
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not a careless decision. This was not a
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decision that was made lightly. This was
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not a decision that was based on a lack
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of education.
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But because AI had told her that it was,
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it became a much much more difficult
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problem to work through than if she had
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just come to us and allowed us to help
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talk through how we might make this
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problem a solution for her, how we might
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make this feel better as her book, which
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of course is our goal. So in this case,
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and in many others, by the way, what's
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happening is the outsourcing of the
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review process. Now, I put this in
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editing even though this is a
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ghostwriting problem because I have seen
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this with other authors who also wrote
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their full manuscript where when they
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got feedback back from an editor, they
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didn't like it, but instead of talking
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through it to see if maybe there was a
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different edit that could solve the same
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reader problem, the whole thing goes
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into Claude and the response comes
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directly back to the editor or
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ghostwriter. And y'all, not only is this
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going to hurt your relationship with
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your editor or ghostwriter, it also is
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very likely limiting choices that you
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actually might have liked if you had
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come to the table to talk about things.
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So when you are thinking about this
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editing process, this is a real area
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where the kind of yes man syndrome of a
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lot of these LLMs can really come into
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play. If the LLM is getting input that
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you don't like something, it will almost
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always give you feedback that you are
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right not to like it. And in fact, here
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are all the reasons. So again, as with
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the last editing example, this is really
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something that's going to prevent you
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from getting the practice in this
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decision-making that you really need if
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you're going to move forward with a
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career in writing.
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Okay. The third step that I want to move
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to is of course design. Now this one is
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one that probably is the first encounter
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I ever had with AI and now I have had
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many many more and the point that often
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times AI will come up in design is with
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cover design. Now I've talked many many
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times on this channel. I know covers are
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so special. They're so personal. They're
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so important. They are quite literally
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the face of your book. And for that
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reason, people do get very, very
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emotionally invested in their covers.
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Remember what I said at the beginning of
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this video and in last week's video.
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Often times, the place that AI will get
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you in trouble is when its certainty
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meets your insecurity. Well,
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unfortunately, all of us have
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insecurities around this whole process.
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And often it does feel very reassuring
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to be able to feel so certain. Well, I
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want to give you an example of a book
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cover that ended with a very happy
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ending. Now, this is um not a book that
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is a page and podium book. This is a
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book that's published through it's being
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published through our partnership
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publishing process, which is where you
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can retain all of the rights, all of the
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distribution. you are doing
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self-publishing effectively but with the
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guidance of our team with that same
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process that our team uses.
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So in this case we had gone all the way
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through this excellent manuscript all
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the way through this excellent book. We
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had gotten to the cover design area. Now
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the way that this process works at page
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and podium is that our cover designer
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will create a series of concepts. Now, a
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concept is not a finished book cover,
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but it is enough of a finished book
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cover that you can see the gist and then
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from there we've got something on paper,
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right? So, we can kind of manipulate
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some of the elements, change out a
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picture, whatever it might be. But the
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concept gives us a place to start. So,
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we always ask that our authors choose a
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concept and then we go back and forth
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with the designer to alter that concept
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to make sure that it comes into
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alignment. Now, we had sent the concepts
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to this particular author and he had
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written back and said, "These are great.
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Please thank your designer. These are
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really excellent." And by the way, not
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to brag on our designer, although I
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always will. Thank you, Jessica. Not to
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brag on our designer too much, but also
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this client's wife is a graphic
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designer. So, this is not someone that
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doesn't know what he's doing, but we had
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sent the concepts. He'd chosen a
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concept. And then as we went back and
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forth, what I noticed was that things
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that hadn't really even been on the
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table at the beginning were suddenly
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becoming really really important. And
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then the answer came through. So what he
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had ended up doing was putting the cover
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concept into AI and then coaching it to
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make some changes. Now when he sent this
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cover design back, it was a totally
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different cover. Totally different. In
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fact, this is generally a self-help type
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book. The book cover that he sent back
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would have been much more like techno
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dystopia. Maybe it was it would have
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looked much more like a fiction book. It
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was not the right fit for a self-help
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book aimed at young adults. It was very,
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very much something that would seem
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dramatic, that would seem like fiction.
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Now, we got this cleared up. We got this
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straightened out. All is well that ends
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:12.950
well. But the reason that I want to
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bring this to you is this is another
00:28:15.520 --> 00:28:18.070
example of a time where not feeling
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totally secure that you can articulate
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.230
what you want, that what you want is the
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.430
right thing, often times is where AI is
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.430
going to step in and tell you with
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certainty that your idea is a great
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:34.149
idea. But in this case, it was very very
00:28:34.159 --> 00:28:36.070
easy to talk this author off the
00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:39.750
proverbial ledge because in our process
00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:42.230
of publishing, we always begin the
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.310
design step by presenting the author
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with comp title covers. Now, what that
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.950
means, a comp title is a comparable
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title. Comp title covers are just simply
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the covers of other books that are in
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the similar area on the bookshelf near
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your book. Now, we don't want to
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replicate exactly what the other covers
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look like, but we do need to make sure
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.110
it's in the general world of what that
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genre is going to be if that's what your
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.710
reader expects. The problem is when you
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pull AI in to redesign your cover, you
00:29:13.679 --> 00:29:15.669
are not designing a cover that is for
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your reader or your genre or the
00:29:17.360 --> 00:29:19.510
bookshelf. You are likely designing
00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:21.110
something that you have in your head or
00:29:21.120 --> 00:29:23.669
had in your heart oftentimes even before
00:29:23.679 --> 00:29:25.750
it occurred to you that you needed to be
00:29:25.760 --> 00:29:27.430
thinking about how your book cover would
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.230
look in the context of the market. Now,
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.389
I don't blame any authors for this. It
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is not actually your job to be thinking
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.950
about how the cover might fit in with
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.269
other covers in your genre. That's our
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:42.549
job. But the problem is, because AI has
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.710
put these quote unquote design tools at
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.510
everyone's fingertips, it's just so
00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:49.750
tempting to try to show the
00:29:49.760 --> 00:29:52.870
professionals exactly what you want.
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.110
Unfortunately, AI is not going to remind
00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:56.950
you that your book cover isn't just for
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.110
you. AI is going to tell you you have
00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:02.310
great great ideas and put out an example
00:30:02.320 --> 00:30:03.990
that you can then send to your
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.470
professional to again probably hurt the
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.269
relationship a bit but also to not
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.430
really help you get where you need to go
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.149
anyway. So, as I mentioned, we were able
00:30:14.159 --> 00:30:16.470
to kind of pull this project back, go
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.389
with that original concept that he had
00:30:18.399 --> 00:30:20.630
loved and make some tweaks to it so that
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.110
he loved it even more as we move forward
00:30:23.120 --> 00:30:25.110
to the end of this partner publishing
00:30:25.120 --> 00:30:27.830
agreement. Okay? And then the last place
00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:29.909
that I want to talk about this is in
00:30:29.919 --> 00:30:32.549
your marketing. Now there are many many
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.950
ways to market a book. But one of the
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.029
things that we really lean on as a press
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.110
that mostly works with experts, mostly
00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:40.950
works with people with a message that is
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.350
very important to them. We are very
00:30:43.360 --> 00:30:45.269
often working with authors who plan to
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.430
do some kind of content marketing. And
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.710
if you're not familiar with the term
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.710
content marketing, that simply means
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.549
something like a podcast, a YouTube
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.110
channel, social media, reals, that kind
00:30:55.120 --> 00:30:57.430
of thing. Effectively, we are creating
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.990
content that then points our reader to
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.230
our book. Our reader wants more of our
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.549
content, so they buy our book. Simple.
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.149
Works really, really well. And it is
00:31:06.159 --> 00:31:08.630
especially useful again if you are
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:10.630
somebody who has a message that's close
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.710
to your heart. It's going to give you a
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:14.950
lot of opportunity and frankly a lot of
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.510
push to keep building that message, keep
00:31:17.520 --> 00:31:19.350
developing that message, keep speaking
00:31:19.360 --> 00:31:21.909
to it where it is relevant.
00:31:21.919 --> 00:31:24.070
Unfortunately though, one of the things
00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:26.389
that we are seeing is that folks who are
00:31:26.399 --> 00:31:29.029
wanting to use AI in their marketing are
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.269
number one not only outsourcing their
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.230
whole voice to AI, which I know you have
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.830
seen if you've been on social media in
00:31:35.840 --> 00:31:39.590
the last year. But bigger issue is that
00:31:39.600 --> 00:31:41.909
they're outsourcing their thinking about
00:31:41.919 --> 00:31:45.029
their topic. Now, next week's episode is
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.509
going to get into why thought leadership
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.269
in particular is harmed by AI use, but
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.389
suffice it to say for right now, one of
00:31:54.399 --> 00:31:56.149
the things that I heard that really
00:31:56.159 --> 00:31:58.070
turned on a light bulb for me on this
00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:01.190
particular topic was my friend Jess Sto.
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:03.190
Now, I've had Jess on the show before.
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.669
She works directly with thought leaders
00:32:05.679 --> 00:32:08.149
to really help make sure that their big
00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:10.470
idea, their mission, and their vision
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.549
and what they want to do in this world
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.350
is central to their business. Now, just
00:32:15.360 --> 00:32:17.509
like me, has been creating content, has
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.269
been doing content marketing for many,
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.990
many years, finds it, like me, very
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.389
fulfilling. And mostly really all we're
00:32:24.399 --> 00:32:26.149
doing is sharing what we see in the
00:32:26.159 --> 00:32:27.669
world, what we think is important, what
00:32:27.679 --> 00:32:29.830
we think you'll enjoy and learn from.
00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:31.269
So, it's a pretty pleasurable
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:32.870
experience. It's something I really
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.350
enjoy, frankly. And Jess has told me
00:32:35.360 --> 00:32:37.509
that she enjoyed it, too. Which is why I
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.070
was so surprised when I started to see
00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:41.750
that she was getting less frequent with
00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:44.230
her podcast, with her newsletters. Well,
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.269
then Jess put out an excellent episode
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.509
on what she's doing, which is called an
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.710
AI cleanse. Now, what Jess found, and
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.630
you can listen to this in her podcast.
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.070
It's called the Profit and Purpose
00:32:56.080 --> 00:32:58.310
Podcast, and I'll link it in the notes.
00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:00.950
What she described was that she had been
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.269
using AI as I hear from many people
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.590
quote just to generate ideas just to
00:33:05.600 --> 00:33:08.389
organize her thoughts. That is what she
00:33:08.399 --> 00:33:10.870
believed that she was doing. But what
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.870
she found was she was struggling more
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.269
and more and more to come up with even
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.909
topics, let alone new ideas to talk
00:33:17.919 --> 00:33:20.230
about in her content. She just simply
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:21.909
felt like she didn't have any ideas
00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:24.470
unless she went to AI. And of course, AI
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.310
had stopped putting out any ideas that
00:33:26.320 --> 00:33:28.470
really seemed exciting or certainly to
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.190
her heart. And what she found was that
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.470
by taking a break from AI, she was able
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.750
to resto that fire of ideas, that fire
00:33:37.760 --> 00:33:40.630
of passion that she has for her topic.
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.269
So, she's working with folks now to do
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.190
this type of AI cleanse. Let me
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.350
recommend, check her out, jessato.com.
00:33:49.360 --> 00:33:51.830
But what I want to say here is that one
00:33:51.840 --> 00:33:53.590
of the things I think is the most
00:33:53.600 --> 00:33:56.630
sinister about this AI LLM moment that
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.590
we are in is that I hear so many people
00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:02.149
saying, "Well, I'm just quote unquote
00:34:02.159 --> 00:34:06.389
just using it for X and Y and Z." But
00:34:06.399 --> 00:34:09.270
almost always the just is actually
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.310
something that is much much more central
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.710
to the actual project you're doing than
00:34:14.720 --> 00:34:17.430
you think. So when we say, "Oh, I'm just
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.470
using it to organize my ideas." I often
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.550
find that the problem is that we're
00:34:22.560 --> 00:34:24.869
undermining the actual process of
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organizing those ideas. And that by
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doing that process of organizing the
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ideas ourselves, we come up with new
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connections, new themes, new ideas, new
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examples. When we want that done fast
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instead of well, we outsource it. And
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what that means is we lose the ability
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to find all of those connections until
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we physically force ourselves to do it
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again. And that is so hard because AI is
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quite addictive. In the folks that I
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have seen, in the studies that I have
00:34:55.040 --> 00:34:58.390
read, I really do not see any way out
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but stepping back from the AI in all of
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these issues and retraining yourself,
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reminding yourself that there is joy and
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fulfillment and passion in coming up
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with things even if an LLM could do them
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faster. Especially if an LLM could do
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them faster. Okay, I hope this has been
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.790
a helpful overview of the ways that I
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.430
have seen AI come into folks projects in
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a way that really did not serve them.
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I'm certainly not trying to shame
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anyone. And in fact, again, if you are
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someone who has been, say, using AI in
00:35:33.839 --> 00:35:36.310
your business, in your work, and is now
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:37.990
finding that your creative life is
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.990
suffering, if you are somebody who has
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.310
been in that LLM with your project and
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.910
you regret it, come to me. I promise you
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we do not judge AI use. But what we will
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do is try to help you back out of this
00:35:52.160 --> 00:35:55.030
use so that we can recover not only your
00:35:55.040 --> 00:35:57.030
book, not only your project, although
00:35:57.040 --> 00:36:00.790
yes, but also your sense of creativity,
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your sense of your ability to do this
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and your pride in actually having
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written a book and not simply outsourced
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it to a computer database.
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Okay, y'all. I really want to encourage
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.349
you to like, share, subscribe so that
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you don't miss next week's episode. You
00:36:17.520 --> 00:36:20.150
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otherwise, if I can help with AI or
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.470
anything else, please reach out. I would
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.310
love to help you bring your project to
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.069
life. I hope you have a good day. I'll
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:38.470
see you next week. And happy writing.
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:39.910
If you've been working on your memoir
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.829
for a while, but you're not making the
00:36:41.839 --> 00:36:43.990
progress you want to make, I want to
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.310
offer you something really practical.
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.470
The memoir method checklist is going to
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lay out every single step in the process
00:36:51.040 --> 00:36:53.589
from idea to finished book. And I know
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.750
what you're thinking, a checklist. But
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.589
truly, if you don't know what you're
00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:59.750
supposed to be doing next, there is very
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.910
little chance you're going to actually
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.790
do it. So, this checklist will guide
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.109
your way through not only making a plan,
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.349
but then executing the plan all the way
00:37:09.359 --> 00:37:12.069
through holding that book in your hands.
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You can download it for free at
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pagandpodium.com/checklist.