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00:00:08.560This is the Fresh Patch Podcast where good pets get it.
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00:00:24.160Welcome everybody to the Fresh Patch podcast, where good pets get it.
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00:00:27.440I'm your host, Drew, with my amazing co-host, Mr.
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00:00:40.560Hi, I'm Amber, and I am the founder of Rabbit Pals.
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00:00:51.920My focus is on rabbit training and rabbit development with a focus and a center on a pet, like being loving to be a pet, enjoying how to be a pet.
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00:00:53.359Amazing.
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00:00:56.320Well, thank you for joining the Fresh Patch podcast today.
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00:01:33.200We're really going to be diving into the bunnies today.
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00:02:01.280Go follow right now as soon as you hear this.
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00:02:03.680And yeah, we're just gonna ask you some questions.
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00:02:11.120Let's dive into this thing and thanks again for being here, Amber.
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00:02:12.879You are welcome.
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00:02:16.719It's my first it is my first podcast.
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00:02:22.560I'm gonna remember to take it slow because I get really excited talking about rabbits.
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00:02:30.719Um a quick note for the viewers just before we get started.
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00:02:35.599Um, Amber's visuals are a little shaky, but the audio is coming in strong.
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00:02:52.960So first things first, um our wonderful producer did some research on you, and um he actually discovered that you began you began your career as a dog trainer.
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00:03:01.120So tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got started in animal training, and then of course, like um, you know, the transition to to rabbits.
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00:03:02.719Sure, sure.
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00:03:06.080So I have never professionally dog trained.
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00:03:08.080I've always just trained my own dogs.
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00:03:31.840Uh my background's actually in marketing, but um, which uh is actually why I got my first rabbit.
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00:03:34.960I did not intend to become a rabbit trainer.
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00:03:37.759I didn't even know I was that good at rabbit training.
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00:03:49.360Um my kids wanted a rabbit, I wanted a rabbit, and I saw all these little rabbits bouncing on the internet in their cute little castles, and who doesn't want that?
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00:03:58.319So I bought my rabbits, and then I was going to write children's books and do appearances with my rabbits.
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00:04:06.080So, you know, yeah, like, you know, go visit the local orthodontist and you know, do fun little things like that.
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00:04:17.279And so I started posting just about showing people how I was getting the rabbits ready for handling, how I was getting them ready to go out in public to these public appearances.
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00:04:25.199And then the internet decided I was going to be a rabbit trainer because no one just the questions snowballed to me so quickly.
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00:04:27.920So that is how I got started.
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00:04:32.639I was just and then eventually it began.
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00:04:39.439I started writing these guides because people were asking me question after question and I couldn't get the information out fast enough.
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00:04:43.040So he was like, here's your step-by-step guide on how to touch your rabbit.
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00:04:47.120Yeah, no, I mean you have some of the most well-trained rabbits I've ever seen.
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00:04:50.560So definitely a testament, um, you know, to your training style.
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00:04:59.680Yeah, and when we when we first uh you know met you and stuff, and I know Gabe has been like your main point of contact and stuff, and he told me he's like, Yeah, we got a rabbit trainer.
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00:05:01.360And I was like, What?
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00:05:03.759Like, so you can train a rabbit?
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00:05:07.920Like, I mean, makes sense, but like at first it was a little sticker shock to me.
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00:05:08.959I was just like, wait a minute.
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00:05:11.839I was like, okay, like that's really, really cool, you know.
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00:05:12.480Oh, yeah.
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00:05:16.160So we're so funny to hear oh, sorry, go for it.
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00:05:23.279No, I was gonna say, it's so funny because I hear that reaction over and over again when anyone casually asks me, What do you do for work?
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00:05:26.639I train rabbits.
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00:05:30.319Yeah, and jaw hits the floor, yeah, exactly.
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00:05:32.560We get a similar response if we tell them what we do.
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00:05:45.279So we're we love to hear that, you know, you started off as a dog person.
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00:05:47.759Um, do you still have dogs in your life?
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00:05:57.600You know, what and uh I do not have a dog in my life right now, but we are hoping uh in the next year or so.
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00:06:03.839I really adding a dog with the rabbit training will create so much stability for the rabbits.
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00:06:11.199It'll give them another model to model, you know, how to be a pet.
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00:06:12.560Amazing, yeah.
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00:06:18.959We I love the the dog with bunny content, like the very friendly dogs, you know, that kind of stuff.
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00:06:23.920Hopping on hopping on the dog's back and stuff, and just yeah, it's so nice, it's so fun to watch.
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00:06:32.879Yeah, it is it is, it is, and most people don't know that cats actually make amazing companions for rabbits, sometimes even better than dogs.
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00:06:36.879Well, maybe Adriana's gonna have to get a rabbit now.
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00:06:45.759Our coworker who had recently adopted a cat, and maybe just yeah, Cleo and um Olive will get along when uh when I'm gone.
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00:06:49.360Do you have any tips for like introducing a cat to a bunny?
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00:07:06.959Slowly, um I I am all about levels, and the very first thing that I would like to see before introducing a rabbit to a dog or a cat would be to strangers, to strange places.
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00:07:13.519And if they're conquering those step by step, then you can continue to move on.
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00:07:24.480And because there's always that risk of somebody not behaving well and then creating more trauma than you're really working through.
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00:07:34.800Yeah, wait till I leave, you know, before I bring that cat in.
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00:07:43.279I'm allergic to cats, so we're always bringing the cat in when I'm not in office and stuff, and which is thankfully, because I will my face will blow up.
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00:07:46.720So uh keep the epi pen close by.
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00:07:55.439Um, so you said uh, you know, you didn't really have any experience before your children asked for the pet rabbit.
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00:07:58.160Um, did you fall in love with the rabbits right away?
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00:08:02.240And did was there any shock about rabbits when you first started training them?
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00:08:04.720Oh, say that again.
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00:08:07.519Was there any what about rabbits when I first started training them?
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00:08:14.480Any shock, like something that just was just like, whoa, I don't know how to handle this, or you know, that this is different.
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00:08:15.759Yeah, exactly.
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00:08:21.439Well, I am a research girl and I did a ton of research.
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00:08:31.439And everything I tried seemed to make the rabbits more on edge, worse, more nervous.
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00:08:32.399Interesting.
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00:08:53.440And I I I really do not go with the traditional advice that and I because I so I just threw out every single book I read on rabbits, and I, you know, I kind of feel like the stepdad that didn't know what to do, so he raised his you know, girls as boys.
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00:08:58.320But I just thought, let's just start raising these rabbits as dogs and see what happens.
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00:09:09.360Because the feedback I was getting, because I knew nothing about rabbits, and the feedback I was getting from online was, you know, you can't do that, you're gonna kill the rabbits.
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00:09:15.600Uh but as soon as I started with my own protocol, things started improving.
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00:09:17.600Very cool.
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00:09:19.840Okay, so you took the dog appropriate.
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00:09:21.039Okay, that's super interesting.
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00:09:24.159That's a funny uh you said the stepdad was taking the girl.
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00:09:33.759There was there was just this moment where I realized how much trauma I really had to get through with a rabbit.
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00:09:42.799There I was, I'd probably, it was my my one of my first rabbits, Moira, and we were in the backyard.
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00:09:48.000The backyard she'd been in for three or four months, and it was dusk and twilight.
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00:09:50.399She was getting a little nervous because it was getting dark.
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00:09:55.360And she'd had a pretty good recall, but I couldn't get her to come to me on this occasion.
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00:09:57.440I couldn't get her to take a step forward.
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00:10:08.080And I sat down and I thought, at what level of trauma does a person or a dog have to be to not recognize the people close to them?
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00:10:19.440And when I thought about it, like, you know, those movie scenes where you see people, you know, the woman will like beat the chest of the police officer or doesn't recognize the brother when he comes to save her.
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00:10:24.399And I was like, oh no, are rabbits really that scared?
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00:10:30.159And so once I asked that question, I kind of started doing some research on it.
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00:10:36.639And I learned that rabbits actually have 20 times as much cortisol pumping through their bodies than we do.
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00:10:42.960So as stressed out as we will ever be, we will never be as stressed out as a rabbit.
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00:10:58.480So I really spent so much time just on nervous system regulation, things like making sure they had a schedule, making sure they didn't do anything that would get them excited or get them anxious.
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00:10:59.519Gotcha.
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00:11:00.399No, that makes sense.
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00:11:02.320I mean, why that's crazy.
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00:11:04.000I get stressed out sometimes after that.
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00:11:06.559I was like putting myself in a bunny's shoes for a second.
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00:11:08.639I was like, geez, I'm stressed out on the case.
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00:11:18.320Yeah, but it makes sense now, like being seeing all of around too and stuff, and how they just kind of like she bunkers down behind the blinds, you know, and it's just like, okay, yeah, you don't you don't see it.
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00:11:23.600Like, I'm just trying to say hi, but you're probably freaked the hell out right now because you don't know who I am.
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00:11:26.399Like, and I'm just sticking my hand out at you.
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00:11:33.759Like trying to, I think I'm being the nicest person, but to them, yeah, it's just like who, what yeah, they're they're stuck in fight or flight.
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00:11:34.480Yeah, exactly.
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00:11:37.360They're they're stuck in fight, flight, freeze, or fawn.
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00:11:41.039So what you have to really get them out of that in order to learn.
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00:11:46.240And then you mentioned that um when they were it was like dawn time, like it was getting dark.
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00:11:48.320So do you think that had any effect to it too?
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00:11:55.200Like she just couldn't see, so then um, with your rabbit that was in the yard, that story.
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00:11:57.200It possibly.
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00:12:01.200Um, there's actually a lot of hunters that come out around dusk.
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00:12:15.120So I know that they tend to get more anxious, but you know, to have been in a backyard with me for months and months in training and to still have the ability to get that dysregulated was what was concerning me.
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00:12:17.120Gotcha, gotcha.
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00:12:18.879Yeah, it makes total sense.
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00:12:22.639I mean, we always talk about how they are prey animals, so um, you know.
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00:12:31.840It is it is interesting though, like just for my personal case, like we noticed, you know, when we let uh my bunny Olive feroam a little bit, you know, she's great.
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00:12:42.080Yeah, she's social, and then when it gets to that like dawn time, that's when she starts like hiding underneath the couch, and that or sorry, the dusk time, that's when she starts like hiding underneath the couch and all that sort of stuff.
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00:12:44.399So that definitely makes a lot of sense.
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00:12:50.720Yep, dawn and dusk is when they're most likely to be in a hunting situation.
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00:12:53.200Yeah, that makes total sense.
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00:12:55.440Yeah, put your put that in the wild, you know.
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00:12:57.279That makes it adds up.
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00:13:14.159So um, with all that said, um, you mentioned in the beginning uh that uh you kind of started um owning rabbit bunny ownership and that sort of thing with the idea of like creating a social media um given your marketing experience.
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00:13:17.600Uh so at what point was Rabbit Pals born?
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00:13:29.120Rabbit, I got my first uh bunny in October of 2022, and by November of 2022, Rabbit Pals was formed.
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00:13:29.919Nice.
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00:13:32.720So it was like a pretty instant day.
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00:13:35.840It was it was, it was.
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00:13:51.360I was looking for something to pour my energy into that I could do with my children, not you know, have my children watch TV, have my children watch an iPad, but what could I do with them and still make an income?
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00:13:54.720So yeah, social media was definitely an answer for that.
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00:13:55.679Absolutely.
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00:14:02.480And we know we always talk about we should start social media for our animals, but it's so much work.
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00:14:07.679It's like like a real actual job, like with the amount sometimes even more so.
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00:14:08.960Like 100%.
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00:14:17.279Yeah, you hear people making fun of influencers, that's all you have to do, and it's like actually like you, it's a lot, especially if you're working doing two jobs, you know what I mean?
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00:14:24.240Like you're at your day job and you're trying to do this stuff at night, like it's it's taxing for sure, and you gotta put a lot of focus in it.
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00:14:28.000And yeah, I've we've tried, I've tried, I'm still trying.
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00:14:36.399It is, and you for as much control and effort as you put in, it doesn't guarantee that output.
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00:14:43.039Some of my videos that have gone the most viral were not the ones that I spent hours editing and dithering with lighting.
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00:14:44.639So classics.
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00:14:53.440Yeah, no, that is literally I you might be the 20th person on this episode or on this podcast, and just who we work with on a day-to-day basis.
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00:14:54.879That's exactly what they say.
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00:14:59.519The one that was just I filmed it real quick, I posted it, went viral.
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00:15:02.960The one you took multiple hours, the lighting, the script, like everything.
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00:15:04.720It's just like it didn't hit as well.
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00:15:13.279And it's like, oh my gosh, like you put all that effort in for not nothing, but you know, the least amount, and then yeah, just that super cute moment that happens, and I don't know.
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00:15:15.279Yeah, you just get it at the right time.
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00:15:15.679I don't know.
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00:15:17.440It's super interesting hearing that, you know.
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00:15:22.480Like I said, you're one of many that have said that exact approach when it comes to the social media.
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00:15:33.919Well, that is definitely my story because my my biggest video that has 35 million views and is still rolling was one of those videos where I'm like, oh, I just need to post something today.
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00:15:38.159It doesn't matter what you post, just post something, so and they're boom.
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00:15:39.840That's amazing.
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00:15:41.519Yeah, I need to take notes, honestly.
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00:15:44.240It's just I even get too lazy for that sometimes.
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00:15:45.279I'm like, just post something.
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00:15:48.639I'm like, I it's not good enough or whatever, you know.
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00:15:50.879So it is always good enough, you know.
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00:15:52.159You never know what's just gonna hit.
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00:15:52.879Just keep posting.
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00:15:55.200Yeah, and was that on TikTok or Instagram?
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00:15:56.320TikTok, right?
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00:15:58.080That's that's Instagram.
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00:16:02.480It went viral on all the platforms, but Instagram was the 35 million.
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00:16:04.480I think it's at 10 million on TikTok.
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00:16:05.360Dang, yeah.
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00:16:09.279See, that's that's more impressive to see those views on Instagram than TikTok.
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00:16:10.320Like, wow.
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00:16:10.639Yeah.
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00:16:11.600Well, congrats.
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00:16:12.240Good.
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00:16:17.840I mean that's like a testament to like the community you've built of rabbit owners and that sort of thing.
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00:16:19.600It's it's pretty awesome.
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00:16:26.000Yeah, I was gonna so your guys, do you have more, do you have better luck on TikTok than you do on Instagram?
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00:16:27.600Because mine is the opposite.
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00:16:29.600So it depends.
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00:16:40.320Um, I'm just basing that off of like creators we've worked with and stuff and some of our close partners, like and just in general, like we've had a video last week go viral just from a customer.
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00:16:41.759Like she just posted something.
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00:16:48.159We don't even work with her um on the partnership side, and it blew up, I think it got over two million views, but that was on TikTok.
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00:16:52.559So yeah, we've seen most of our virality um on the TikTok side.
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00:16:57.759We've definitely had a handful of Instagram, but I would say more so the TikTok side.
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00:17:01.679I I would say like Instagram for us this vibe with the younger, yeah.
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00:17:02.399I guess so.
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00:17:04.160You know, that is a good point.
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00:17:05.839Lots of young people owning pets nowadays.
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00:17:14.319Um but I was gonna say Instagram is like more steady, you know, like we have our community, we get like pretty good engagement from them.
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00:17:17.200Um, TikTok is like actually kind of the opposite.
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00:17:26.079Like most of our videos like don't do so well, but then there will be like a random one that just like pops off from like I don't understand what's going on, but this is great.
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00:17:29.839Yeah, and we use that TikTok more as that discovery platform too, you know.
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00:17:37.200It's like really just posting brand awareness stuff versus Instagram's more curated professional kind of vibe and stuff.
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00:17:45.359But yeah, and it's just it's an interesting social media is a very interesting uh world when it comes to virality and stuff.
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00:17:46.720So we're always learning.
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00:17:52.799I'm sure you're always learning too, you know, what's what's new and hip or what's hit what's viral and what's not?
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00:17:55.599So um that's cool.
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00:17:57.759Yeah, congrats on you know, hopefully you go viral again.
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00:18:00.799Hopefully another 35 million view video comes soon for you.
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00:18:01.839With fresh patch.
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00:18:02.240Yeah.
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00:18:06.160Your lips to God's ears, yes.
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00:18:07.279There we go.
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00:18:09.279Amazing.
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00:18:12.559So um moving on to our next question.
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00:18:20.240What are some common misconceptions that you've discovered in your experience about having rabbits as pets?
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00:18:32.960That they should always be kept in pairs, that they don't like to be picked up.
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00:18:34.000Yeah.
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00:18:38.880That uh oh gosh, uh everything that I have.
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00:18:42.319Um that they constantly poop.
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00:18:52.319Um, that they can't, you know, kind of hold that or have any control over it, that they should live in cages, that they should live in enclosures.
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00:18:56.000Those are good.
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00:18:57.039Those are good ones.
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00:18:58.240Especially the poop one.
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00:19:00.400The poop one, I like with all of being around too.
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00:19:03.680I'm like, wait, there's not that much, there's that many pellets around, you know.
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00:19:12.720I thought they were always just letting loose and you know, and maybe just she she's a little because she's like in her teenage years, we were kind of talking about it, like all the terrible teens.
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00:19:14.400They get a little, you know.
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00:19:20.960Um, so she's been slipping a little bit, but we let her free roam like a lot, and she always just goes back to her litter box and just goes.
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00:19:22.799So that's pretty cool to see.
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00:19:23.920Already well trained.
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00:19:24.240Yeah.
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00:19:29.599Well, yeah, that's it.
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00:19:39.440And that's that's one of the most interesting things is the rabbits in potty training, is until you've really pulled a rabbit out of fight or flight, they will not potty train.
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00:19:51.599And more interesting, they will actually make sure that they canvass the entire area so that you have to tiptoe around it like it's territory pooping.
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00:19:53.599Yeah, I was gonna say in the rabbit world.
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00:20:07.759I've heard you talk about territory pooping, and I've like self-diagnosed it with my bunny a little bit, but um, is that like a common thing that you've seen, or is that more of something that you've kind of seen with your bunnies?
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00:20:13.920That is an extremely common, common problem in the rabbit world.
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00:20:28.799So, you know how most people think that you really can't potty train a rabbit because they're constantly pooping, but really they're constantly pooping because it's a territorial behavioral sort of an issue, not a I don't know where to go to the bathroom issue.
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00:20:29.680Gotcha.
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00:20:30.400Interesting.
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00:20:31.279Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
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00:20:32.640Yeah, makes total sense.
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00:20:33.200Okay.
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00:20:35.759Well, thank you for those common misconceptions.
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00:20:36.880The picking up one, too.
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00:20:40.720I think we've learned that from um the bunny brigade and stuff.
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00:20:41.039Yeah.
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00:20:42.720Like, and just having olive too.
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00:20:46.000So that one I So if you wouldn't I've always heard that, yeah.
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00:20:51.759If you wouldn't mind expanding on that a little bit, you're saying it's a common misconception that they don't like being picked up.
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00:20:53.680Right, right.
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00:20:58.160It's uh, you know, kind of the Ioh, how to explain this.
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00:21:02.880I don't think that rabbits are properly introduced to the concept in the right way.
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00:21:05.839Most people just, they're a prey animal.
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00:21:10.480I don't want to, you know, I don't want to upset them, I don't want to pick them up, I don't want to scare them.
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00:21:16.319But even as humans, you have to introduce things in a certain way and get compliance.
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00:21:23.920You know, I've had toddlers that don't want to wear clothes, and unfortunately, I can't just never have them wear clothes because that's what they want.
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00:21:43.039And so once you really, once you really help a rabbit get comfortable and trust, because if you're stuck in 20 times the cortisol level, if you're a prey animal, if you're so scared of your environment, how do you trust a human enough to pick you up?
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00:21:51.839So when I say that most rabbits just never reach the the developmental level, the calmness to even enjoy something like that.
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00:21:53.119Gotcha.
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00:21:53.599Okay.
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00:21:54.400Interesting.
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00:21:54.799Yeah.
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00:21:55.359It's cool.
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00:21:59.759It's kind of like a a mindset sort of shift, which I think is.
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00:22:03.519kind of the I the whole idea behind your style of of training.
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00:23:17.519Um so yeah like we've kind of like talked about it a little bit but um you know you mentioned that your style of training is pretty con controversial in the rabbit world what makes it unique well the first year that I was on social media the message that was being parroted to me was you're going to kill our rabbits and everybody else's because you're going to shock them into a heart attack if you take them if you take them out to a park and let them meet strangers and socialize them they're going to die of a heart attack and you're being irresponsible holy moly that's intense that is very intense it was intense I mean I I had my she was 12 at the time my daughter sat down with me and she said mom you're gonna kill rabbits and I'm like I'd explain to her that we're doing everything so slowly and all of the methods that I use are actually for like damaged dogs for dogs that have been traumatized and abused so yeah it's it's all been extremely controversial everything I'm doing.
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00:23:22.880But at the same time the beliefs that people have about rabbits right now are very limiting.
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00:24:05.759When you believe that rabbits don't like to be picked up when you believe that rabbits are going to die how do you even try how do you even get brave enough to get past that yeah and um you know I don't want to I don't want you to give away too much of the secret sauce but um tell us a little bit like does that process start from when they're young um you know like what what does it kind of look like just kind of like generally first of all I want to tell everybody the secrets because rabbits deserve to lead happy lives so I do not gatekeep at all anything that I can tell anybody to help them I will.
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00:24:27.920So it's I oh so everything that I've developed I just kind of if it works for a human if it works for a dog I will try it on a rabbit and so my methods are that um one of the things that I do is just throw peace at rabbits nervous system regulation.
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00:24:42.799If I let the bunnies outside and they start zooming and binkying that's too much excitement for them I try to keep everything calm until they can get to a level where they can start learning and following commands.
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00:24:49.839Once they can do that I kind of ease back off on the nervous system regulation because they can self-regulate at that point.
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00:26:00.160Gotcha okay that's really interesting yeah I mean yeah just taking that there yeah that I was just gonna say there are just points in my life when I've been stressed when I would really have appreciated someone just throwing peace at me like here are no responsibilities here are all of the things that will make you comfortable your creature comforts your schedule that you love just exist in that frame that sounds amazing I wish I could be thrown into peace too you know don't worry about it like it sounds like a great line you don't have to respond to that email your heart's beating fast no no no no you need help with that email oh my gosh amazing that would be incredible I think I'd uh have less gray hairs on my head and uh that's funny cool that's a great you know um way of looking at it very like you said you know it's it's very unique um controversial is one word but unique um I like how you said you know you go from the human to the dog then to like if it's working for those two just go right into the rabbit you know and if it like that makes total sense to me.
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00:26:22.559So and I think it's really exciting too because like we talk to vets and trainers mostly like dog related um kind of people and one thing that we talk about all the time is how pet uh the whole pet world and pet training and you know what foods are good for pets, what foods are bad for pets it's just like there's been so much change in the last five years.
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00:26:26.559So something like this is really exciting you know definitely for the future.
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00:26:31.519There there really has yeah like pets are getting so much more status than they used to.
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00:26:32.079Yep.
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00:26:52.480If you think about dogs in the 70s and 80s they were chained out in people's yards with a house and maybe just dry food and water changed but that slowly changed you know we brought dogs more into the homes more into socialization expected more out of them and I really feel it's time to legitimize rabbits in the same way.
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00:27:14.880Yeah definitely I I I can agree it's yeah go ahead I was just gonna say there's such a there's such a slept on so to speak pet um you know um and there's so they're so amazing there's such amazing like well behaved pets so um if there's a way to to kind of like increase the bond and like you know make people more aware of it I think that's incredible.
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00:27:46.160Definitely definitely so actually kind of leads us right into our next question uh very nicely so if someone is thinking about getting a rabbit as a pet what are some of the first steps in training they should focus on uh the first thing you're going to want to focus on is the approach before you approach your rabbit I want your rabbit to feel comfortable approaching you I want them to be able to make that leap.
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00:27:51.680So we work on things with like love bombing and I work on things like a forage map.
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00:28:05.279So for instance one of my favorite exercises is called Meet Me at our spot and you would because when you even try to take a step towards a rabbit they might run and duck under the furniture they're very skittish.
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00:28:12.799So one of the things I would do is I would leave a treat in the same spot day after day after day.
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00:28:25.839And then when they start sitting by that spot expecting the treat sort of asking for another then you can start sitting at that spot with a treat in your hand and you have now tricked the rabbit into approaching you to get the treat.
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00:28:29.279So lots of little little steps like that.
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00:28:31.200Yeah approach.
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00:28:36.559Definitely that makes total sense and I feel like that goes with you know every other pet too like it's just consistency.
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00:28:53.519You know we always focus on that with training the dogs and stuff especially going potty on the fresh patch and stuff like that especially you know a new puppy or new environment or anything so consistency is so key and that you know if you're giving them that same treat same spot makes makes total sense.
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00:29:13.920So um and then what about the household that um for the rabbit so like some the the household that best suits the rabbit as a pet do you have any insight on you know like apartment living I have an opinion okay we'll take your opinion I have an opinion we're here for yeah there are no facts here.
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00:29:34.240Uh my opinion for the great they oh so many rabbits don't get to go outside like imagine being a foraging woodland bunny and living in a house for the rest of your life and never experiencing those smells so it's very important to me my rabbits have a schedule they get up with Wade Mr.
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00:30:05.039Rabbit pals at 5 a.m and they play outside with him until about eight then they have their breakfast then they go nap in my closet and then we usually do they do and then we do a little training and then when it gets cool enough again they go outside so I really like rabbits to have a full life doing things that they love to do um instead of just being in the house which isn't really their natural environment at all.
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00:31:19.440Yeah that makes total sense yeah no and actually it's funny like my dad um bunny's staying at my parents' house so um my dad really wants to take the bunny outside and like he's been talking about it we've been told not to let her outside um because she'll just bolt right so um okay what steps like lead up to you being able to bring the bunny outside and have the trust that you know they're not gonna take off or you know get too scared or that sort of thing uh so I I have a training guide that actually goes through this but you would want to practice recall in the house until they mastered that once you master it outside then you're gonna master it with a stranger in your house then you're going to do that with distraction then you go train outside and so every single little bit like for instance when you're just slightly able to pet the bunny for three or four seconds before he runs away you'll have to likely repeat that process outside because it's a new environment with all new distractions with all new everything.
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00:31:27.599So it's just from adopting a bunny to being able to take them outside you're probably looking at six months.
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00:31:55.039Got it okay that makes sense and then do you start like yeah just to give you framework oh sorry what was that no you're good no I was just mumbling I was like yeah that framework so I I talk to myself I'm an animal person yeah me too no worries about that all good um but yeah so when when you initially take them outside are are they in a pin or or do you just immediately kind of do the free roam thing?
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00:32:19.519I would I cheat now because I have ringers so my adult bunnies stay close to me outside so the babies just that's just how it is they've never known any different but at first yes I would start with an X pen that was attached to the doorway because it's very important that the rabbit takes its first step outside and not that you carry it outside.
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00:32:34.400It needs to be brave enough to enter that new world with its own I I don't know what word I would be just with its with its own independence instead of just being carried and plopped down into a situation they might not be ready for.
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00:37:24.960Absolutely okay yeah that's that's awesome yeah their own free will you know just get a get to share that training guide with my dad I'm gonna be very happy with that you gotta wait six months dad yeah we gotta be consistent for six months I would love to send him one i'm gonna I'm gonna email some stuff to you Gabe you're gonna like amazing yes yes and I saw you you you do like some private session stuff too huh I do I do um I do zoom calls for people that are just either stuck or have a unique problem and I hear some of the strangest unique problems that people need training help with I'm sure yeah sure I was kind of telling you a little bit about you know the the newest thing that she's doing is she's trying to like make nests in various places of the house so she kind of like gets all the hay together and shoves it all in her mouth at once it's adorable it's amazingly cute but gosh then there's hair mess that she creates oh my god so um she don't care she don't care she's just trying to I don't know if you have any specific insight on that or you know that sort of thing but I know she's preparing she's preparing for babies is that is that your general yeah that's that's what how old is she how old is she she's about ooh gee I want to say six seven months now okay okay and is she intact is she intact has she been de-sexed no not yet thank thank you for following up on that I was like not familiar with that terminology no she has not been spayed yet although that is supposed to happen I think next month so that'll be that'll be soon it people a lot in the same way that rabbits have 20 times as much cortisol rabbits get flooded with reproductive hormones the testosterone the estrogen it I actually calculated it out one time and if male rabbits were human each testicle would be seven pounds so if you want to get an idea of how much hormones are pumping through those bunnies when they become teenagers that's holy crap that's insane that's like two bold no it's wild it's a lot yeah oh god I'm sorry I mean if you sorry I don't I don't mean to but no it's good it's all good our producer behind the standpoint it's just so funny laughing yeah that's good holy crap it's good to know it's good to know yeah that makes a lot of that actually like kind of clears things up a little bit yeah you think like her getting fixed that'll kind of solve some of the issues it well a hundred percent she's just preparing for babies that aren't going to come but I mean with that much you know hormones and instruction she's doing what she she should be absolutely also so if anything she's healthy yeah you know she's doing yeah amazing yeah that is so cool wow all right that's great that's great so you stay consistent gay with your dad and you know hopefully running amok soon yeah no full confidence so uh cool this uh you know kind of goes hand in hand with fresh patch of course you know talking about people that own a rabbit in an apartment they might not be you know have a yard like you do where they're able to take them out you know occasion or uh consistently and stuff so how does something like having a fresh patch in the home for rabbit owners help with training or you know just in general you know confidence for for the rabbit I think for just enrichment it's amazing just for the rabbits that aren't regulated enough to even think about going outside now they have that grass to eat and grass is actually really good for rabbits to eat so they have that aspect there they love to lay on it roll on it and just experience what is outside and then for me developmentally I love it because I want to be done with litter eventually entirely I want um my rabbits to basically I want to open the door have them go outside and then have them come back in amazing that'd be so cool video is like the perfect stepping stone for that yeah it really is yeah it is it really is and I didn't ever think that was possible with rabbits because they do need to go to the bathroom often but the more regulated the more training my rabbits get the longer they sleep under my bed at night.
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00:37:44.480I mean splute and lop which are my two rabbits they sleep for eight hours underneath my bed and don't go downstairs and I know because we've accidentally closed the door on them a couple times we didn't it wasn't like a thing we found out on purpose but I it really has got me thinking about what they're capable of as a pet.
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00:40:46.960Totally yeah and I understand you closing the door on them oh my gosh they are quiet animals like I'll be looking everywhere for her and then I'll turn around she's been following me around the whole time I'm like oh that's funny that is good that is don't step on her don't step backwards I know how you are with stepping backwards sometimes so I want to kind of expand on this because this is really exciting I know um I'm a new bunny owner but the rest of us here kind of don't have much experience with bunnies we've just heard feedback oh my bunny loves it they love jumping on it and sleeping on it whatever right so we thought of it always as like kind of an enrichment thing um but you know you've kind of discovered this new avenue of actually like using it as a litter you know like them kind of using it in the same way that dogs use it which is really really cool and exciting um what is the training oh sorry go for that well oh sorry I was gonna say it's actually a lot healthier there is a huge discussion in the rabbit world about what litter is appropriate for them you know there's certain pine shavings that people think give off gases that will actually hurt their respiratory system there's the risk of them eating it and getting some kind of a clog and the fresh pouch completely eliminates all of those risks awesome that's amazing yeah that's so good to know yeah yeah no there really are one of the things that bunnies deal with is like gistasis and blockages and it's very expensive and it's very it can be fatal to bunnies people can lose their pets over it so something like a fresh patch there's no risk there's it's I'm sold there we go we love it yeah you know fresh real grass people for everyone listening like it is I mean we're like gave you said we're learning so much you know this was really started as a dog product um and we've transitioned to more cats now more rabbits and just you know being educated um from people like you uh some of our other partners and stuff uh it's it's just been really really cool to figure this out helps us on the marketing side too to you know expand that knowledge to uh more customers and everything and yeah that's that's so cool yeah and I want to ask too um I was kind of getting here before but for people who are interested in training their rabbits to go on grass to go on fresh patch what does that training process look like is it intensive do they kind of get it a little bit naturally at first but like what in your experience have you have you noticed from that the best thing you can do is start to feed your rabbit on the fresh patch they get a little bit territorial when they find resources so they will keep coming back to it and they will start leaving little poops to claim that that's their area that's where they get food and eventually they don't even know what happened.
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00:41:07.920They're just going on the fresh patch so yeah they can sprinkle pellets as forage you could do treats anything like that and lately I've actually been tying I can't wait to do a video on this but I've been bringing in flowers and other things and like sticking it in with sticks into the fresh patch and making it kind of like a meadow as much as possible.
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00:42:26.079Oh that's so cool yeah okay I'm excited for that content yeah that's gonna be really cool maybe you're gonna start a start a trend too all the rabbit owners need to make a fresh patch meadow you know and oh yeah okay I like very cool the bunnies love it yes yes and and I'm gonna use one of your terms here you use a little bit of the meet me where where where I'm at training style right yeah exactly um yeah that could be absolutely another one there's many uh the best training for an animal is really the most individualized so yeah but that knowledge is hard to come from absolutely definitely cool well anything else on the fresh patch side of things that you think would be um beneficial any new you know new rabbit owners come into you know maybe they're hearing this and they're like I'm about to get that rabbit and I'm gonna look into Fresh Patch is there any other benefits or um can I can I tell you the benefit to me definitely okay because so whatever litter they have is usually like little pieces and particles of something right it's not like a sheet.
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00:42:29.519And the rabbits when they jump in and out they kick it all over.
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00:42:40.880So when you're a content creator and every time you want to take a shot you have to clean up everything that has fallen out of the litter box very frustrating.
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00:42:41.920In fact Mr.
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00:43:05.360Rabbit Pals loves it so much because he's the one that keeps the floors clean and he's and he I mean it's just it's cleaner for me it's more sanitary it it is this is something that I would recommend to every single rabbit owner not as yes stand firmly behind you.
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00:43:06.239There we go.
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00:43:48.480That's amazing yeah and that just goes on our like convenience factor this product for all pets you know people in apartments condos you don't have the yard we really focus on that convenience aspect that you know we ship it right to your door sometimes the mail room but you don't have to go far to get it you know and then you just set it up right there so to have that convenience of not only the delivery side of it but the cleanliness of it you're not tracking things around we've gotten the same feedback from cats too in the litter box and stuff and yeah just peace of mind content creators too like you said like you know you don't have to take extra time and everything Mr Rabbit Palace but I don't have to like spray out the litter box anymore.
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00:43:58.000Like I don't have to dump it spray it out all I can do is just vacuum it liter what took me 15 minutes now takes me three because all I'm doing is just vacuuming it up.
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00:43:58.719There we go.
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00:44:00.880That's incredible you heard It here first.
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00:44:02.000You heard it here.
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00:44:03.840Train your bunny on a fresh pad.
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00:44:05.199That's right.
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00:44:19.280I want to shout this out too because we did talk about this like off-camera before the podcast, but um you mentioned how you use a vacuum to you know suck up their poop and and then you save it and use it as fertilizer for the garden.
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00:44:20.800I do, I do.
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00:44:30.400I have a shop vac and it's so powerful, it literally takes me three minutes, and then I just have in a nice, neat, contained yeah.
00:44:30.480 -->
00:44:32.480So I went and bought myself a little shop vac.
00:44:32.559 -->
00:44:34.800It's my fresh patch shop vac.
00:44:35.360 -->
00:44:38.000Nothing else goes in there but that.
00:44:38.159 -->
00:44:46.159And yeah, then I take it out and put it on all of my it's because rabbit rabbit poop is one of the few that doesn't need to like compost and do a bunch of things.
00:44:46.239 -->
00:44:48.000You can literally just take it outside.
00:44:48.239 -->
00:44:48.800Incredible.
00:44:48.960 -->
00:44:49.440There we go.
00:44:49.599 -->
00:44:50.000Oh my gosh.
00:44:51.920 -->
00:44:52.800From Amber.
00:44:53.039 -->
00:44:53.920Yeah, that's amazing.
00:44:54.000 -->
00:44:54.159Yeah.
00:44:54.239 -->
00:44:59.280So for all you viewers, if you have a garden and you're looking for that compost and you're looking to get the rabbit, or you already have the rabbit.
00:44:59.440 -->
00:44:59.920It's double.
00:45:00.480 -->
00:45:04.400Yeah, all the ladies my age, uh, you need this.
00:45:04.639 -->
00:45:07.760Like if you love to garden, you need a rabbit and a fresh patch.
00:45:07.920 -->
00:45:08.239There you go.
00:45:08.480 -->
00:45:09.760Never buy fertilizer again.
00:45:09.920 -->
00:45:10.559There you go.
00:45:10.960 -->
00:45:11.760Heck yeah.
00:45:12.400 -->
00:45:12.960It's amazing.
00:45:13.119 -->
00:45:16.800And a shop back, and maybe fresh, maybe there's a fresh patch edition soon.
00:45:16.880 -->
00:45:19.679We'll send you some stickers so you can sticker blast your shop back.
00:45:19.840 -->
00:45:21.360You just said it is the fresh patch shop back.
00:45:22.000 -->
00:45:22.559Maybe shop back.
00:45:22.800 -->
00:45:23.199I will.
00:45:23.360 -->
00:45:24.400That would be awesome.
00:45:24.639 -->
00:45:24.800Okay.
00:45:25.199 -->
00:45:27.760I'll have to bring that up in our product development meeting next week.
00:45:28.000 -->
00:45:28.239Yeah.
00:45:28.320 -->
00:45:28.559Okay.
00:45:29.039 -->
00:45:29.519There we go.
00:45:29.760 -->
00:45:30.159Beautiful.
00:45:30.320 -->
00:45:30.639Awesome.
00:45:30.800 -->
00:45:32.639So we're definitely going to send you some stickers.
00:45:32.719 -->
00:45:34.400You're calling it the Fresh Patch Shopback.
00:45:34.480 -->
00:45:35.599You got to sticker it up.
00:45:35.840 -->
00:45:38.480And we just created a new bunny logo, too.
00:45:38.639 -->
00:45:40.400So we'll make some bunny stickers.
00:45:40.800 -->
00:45:46.880Um, instead of just the dog logo that we usually have and we have the cat now, too, but we have the bunny.
00:45:47.039 -->
00:45:49.519Um, we don't have a name for the bunny yet, though, right?
00:45:50.000 -->
00:45:50.239No.
00:45:50.480 -->
00:45:53.440We name all our our characters, our logo characters.
00:45:53.599 -->
00:45:57.920So the dog is patches, uh, the cat is scratches.
00:45:58.559 -->
00:46:01.599So now we need the rabbit name.
00:46:01.679 -->
00:46:06.960So if you don't mind helping us out, we don't have to do it right now, but you know, okay email Gabe if you got any ideas.
00:46:07.920 -->
00:46:08.320I will.
00:46:08.400 -->
00:46:10.480I'm gonna have to ask all the followers.
00:46:10.559 -->
00:46:12.559We're gonna crowdsource this.
00:46:13.199 -->
00:46:13.840There we go.
00:46:13.920 -->
00:46:20.880So yeah, we'll make sure we get you some of those bunny logo stickers so you can showcase that to all your followers and everything.
00:46:20.960 -->
00:46:22.239And uh, that's so cool.
00:46:22.400 -->
00:46:23.360Okay, this is fun.
00:46:23.440 -->
00:46:23.920This is great.
00:46:24.079 -->
00:46:26.800Shopbacks, shop backs and fertilizer.
00:46:27.119 -->
00:46:27.760Gardening tips.
00:46:27.920 -->
00:46:28.559Yes.
00:46:28.880 -->
00:46:31.440Oh man, full 360 on the pod, right now.
00:46:32.880 -->
00:46:33.760I love I love it.
00:46:35.840 -->
00:46:36.639Dang it.
00:46:37.440 -->
00:46:38.800That's the most random.
00:46:39.440 -->
00:46:39.920I died.
00:46:40.320 -->
00:46:41.280Yeah, I love it.
00:46:41.440 -->
00:46:42.400Cilantro, come on.
00:46:43.199 -->
00:46:43.280Right.
00:46:47.039 -->
00:46:48.239Oh man, that's good.
00:46:48.400 -->
00:46:49.760I was gonna ask one more question.
00:46:49.840 -->
00:46:56.480I feel like we've um we've talked about this in the past, not with you, Amber, but another common misconception is uh carrots.
00:46:57.119 -->
00:47:04.320Supposedly rabbits don't like like you know, obviously, carrots are associated with the Easter bunny and Bugs Bunny, Bugs Bunny, you know, chopping.
00:47:04.559 -->
00:47:04.960What's up, Doc?
00:47:05.679 -->
00:47:09.360Yeah, you know, so is that a do you notice that too?
00:47:09.519 -->
00:47:11.360Do you feed your rabbits carrots at all?
00:47:11.519 -->
00:47:15.360Or um my bunnies do get carrots.
00:47:15.760 -->
00:47:18.960Um, it is very, it is extremely controversial.
00:47:19.840 -->
00:47:29.280I um I follow my rabbits are allowed to have 10% of their calories from sugar, which is the same for humans, the same for dogs.
00:47:29.360 -->
00:47:40.719There's a lot of studies on humans that say that once you once more of your diet more than 10%, you start getting foggy, you start getting, you know, some of these other things that we don't want.
00:47:40.960 -->
00:47:44.559So yes, my rabbits are allowed to have carrots.
00:47:44.719 -->
00:47:50.880My rabbits have probably the most varied diet on the internet of all the rabbits.
00:47:51.519 -->
00:47:54.400I'm pretty chill with it.
00:47:54.800 -->
00:47:55.280There you go.
00:47:55.599 -->
00:47:55.920Gotcha.
00:47:56.079 -->
00:47:56.719Okay, good to know.
00:47:56.800 -->
00:47:56.960Yeah.
00:47:57.599 -->
00:47:57.760Yeah.
00:47:57.840 -->
00:48:00.400We've heard, I mean, I've heard from just other partners and stuff.
00:48:00.480 -->
00:48:08.480Yeah, the carrots are just like they're not always munching on carrots, like just how it's portrayed and the cartoons and and all that stuff.
00:48:08.559 -->
00:48:13.039So that was interesting to me because obviously I didn't I didn't know Jack Squat when I came to Rabbits.
00:48:13.199 -->
00:48:14.559I'm like, yeah, then let's get him carrots.
00:48:14.639 -->
00:48:16.480And she's like, eh, it's not really gonna do anything.
00:48:16.559 -->
00:48:20.880I'm like, I think it was uh, yeah, we did it too like a year and a half ago, two years ago, it was a photo shoot.
00:48:20.960 -->
00:48:23.119So I went and got carrots, lettuce.
00:48:23.199 -->
00:48:24.480I think I got cilantro too.
00:48:24.639 -->
00:48:26.480She's like, eh, I don't really like the carrots.
00:48:26.559 -->
00:48:32.719And I'm like, well, okay, now I just got big old stocks of carrots sitting here for this photo shoot, and we didn't even use them.
00:48:32.880 -->
00:48:34.559I just laid them next to the rabbit, you know.
00:48:34.639 -->
00:48:35.360I was like, we'll do it.
00:48:35.519 -->
00:48:36.400Yeah, so it worked out.
00:48:37.039 -->
00:48:40.239Funny thing about my bunny, she loves peanut butter.
00:48:40.400 -->
00:48:45.760Whenever someone's eating something with peanut butter in it, she starts freaking out, like jumping all over us and stuff.
00:48:45.920 -->
00:48:47.039So I don't know what that is.
00:48:47.119 -->
00:48:49.199I feel like that's gotta be like a pretty unique thing.
00:48:49.440 -->
00:48:50.239Yeah, interesting.
00:48:50.639 -->
00:48:53.760Amber, do your do you your rabbits like peanut butter?
00:48:54.000 -->
00:48:58.000Oh uh, my rabbits like French fries.
00:48:58.480 -->
00:48:59.679Okay, okay.
00:49:00.000 -->
00:49:03.039It's potatoes, let's uh it's still a vegetable.
00:49:04.559 -->
00:49:12.079I mean, this oh see, it is hard for me because I have four kids, so and I have a hundred percent free roam bunnies.
00:49:12.320 -->
00:49:19.440So to assume that stuff hasn't been dropped on the floor and that they haven't gotten tastes of things would be incorrect.
00:49:20.400 -->
00:49:26.000So they they do like their creature comforts, they'll come and beg for a bite.
00:49:26.159 -->
00:49:41.760And I am I am the kind of trainer that I would rather give them a bite and then have that boundary and send them on our way than have them, you know, scurrying into the pantry to try to rip things open and get whatever they can.
00:49:41.920 -->
00:49:50.159And so I I try to be responsible with it while still, you know, recognizing that those are adult bunnies.
00:49:50.559 -->
00:49:56.639Those they they make choices every day out in the you know, forest and they should have that right too.
00:49:57.119 -->
00:49:57.360100%.
00:49:57.679 -->
00:50:00.880Yeah, you're confronting you're confronting the curiosity, really.
00:50:01.039 -->
00:50:04.639You know, like they're curious, they want to know what you're eating, they want to try it.
00:50:04.800 -->
00:50:07.440Just you know, let them try it, and then yeah, it makes total sense.
00:50:07.599 -->
00:50:09.920They're not gonna go in the pantry and what is this?
00:50:10.000 -->
00:50:11.440What does this smell I've never smelled before?
00:50:11.519 -->
00:50:12.880I gotta figure it out, you know.
00:50:13.119 -->
00:50:14.079So cool.
00:50:14.239 -->
00:50:17.599All right, well, we're learning a lot about diets too now.
00:50:17.760 -->
00:50:18.320This is great.
00:50:18.480 -->
00:50:20.400All right, so we'll see if Olive likes it.
00:50:20.480 -->
00:50:26.639Yeah, no, I am not, I am definitely not saying to give any bunnies peanut butter or French fries.
00:50:27.199 -->
00:50:28.480Just so we're clear.
00:50:28.880 -->
00:50:35.360But I'm also but I'm also not going to dive across the room and upset everybody to get there, is kind of my thing.
00:50:35.679 -->
00:50:36.480Gotcha, gotcha.
00:50:36.880 -->
00:50:38.000Makes sense, makes sense.
00:50:38.320 -->
00:50:38.719Cool.
00:50:38.960 -->
00:50:40.320Well, thank you, Amber.
00:50:40.559 -->
00:50:41.760That wraps up all our questions.
00:50:41.920 -->
00:50:44.159We uh had through some extras in there as well.
00:50:44.239 -->
00:50:50.079So thank you for answering those and staying on your toes with everything and um appreciate your time.
00:50:50.239 -->
00:50:52.239And you know, we will wrap it up now.
00:50:52.320 -->
00:50:53.440I'll give another shout out.
00:50:53.519 -->
00:50:56.159You can give another shout out to your social media as well.
00:50:56.400 -->
00:51:09.199But for everybody listening, wherever you're listening, uh please hit that follow button, like, comment, subscribe, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcast, at Fresh Patch on all social media.
00:51:09.280 -->
00:51:15.679You can find us anywhere, freshpatch.com for all your real grass potty needs, especially if you're bringing that new rabbit home.
00:51:15.760 -->
00:51:17.840You may already have a rabbit for years.
00:51:18.079 -->
00:51:20.960Get familiar with Fresh Patch and you know real grass.
00:51:21.199 -->
00:51:22.239Body train them on real grass.
00:51:22.559 -->
00:51:24.400We heard it, you heard it here first from Amber.
00:51:24.480 -->
00:51:26.800It's it's it's honestly legendary at this point.
00:51:26.880 -->
00:51:27.840So amazing.
00:51:28.400 -->
00:51:29.280So check it out.
00:51:29.360 -->
00:51:32.000If you ever have any questions, you can contact us anytime.
00:51:32.159 -->
00:51:34.239Send us a DM, contact our customer service.
00:51:34.320 -->
00:51:38.800And Amber, if you want to give a shout out to your social media one last time as well.
00:51:40.000 -->
00:51:42.559I actually just want to say thank you, Drew.
00:51:42.719 -->
00:51:44.559Thank you, Gabe, for having me.
00:51:44.880 -->
00:51:49.679And I just I really just appreciate having the chat and getting the information out there.
00:51:50.000 -->
00:51:50.559Beautiful.
00:51:50.800 -->
00:51:51.280There we go.
00:51:51.360 -->
00:51:52.400No, thank you, Amber.
00:51:52.480 -->
00:51:53.360I mean, this was great.
00:51:53.519 -->
00:51:55.360Um, hopefully, you know, this won't be our last.
00:51:55.440 -->
00:52:02.480Maybe we'll have a part two, you know, as we uh get more into rabbits and fresh patch stickers on the shop vac.
00:52:02.639 -->
00:52:04.559We'll probably get some content of that, you know.
00:52:04.719 -->
00:52:06.320So looking forward to that.
00:52:06.480 -->
00:52:09.760But yeah, thank you for the kind words and we appreciate your time as well.
00:52:10.000 -->
00:52:11.280I want to give you a shout out.
00:52:11.440 -->
00:52:14.079All bunny owners should follow the rabbit pals.
00:52:14.239 -->
00:52:17.840You're not gonna see any information like that anywhere, and it's awesome.
00:52:18.000 -->
00:52:19.440And she's got some really cute bunnies, too.
00:52:19.519 -->
00:52:20.239So that's a huge bless.
00:52:20.480 -->
00:52:21.039There we go.
00:52:22.400 -->
00:52:23.039Amazing.
00:52:23.280 -->
00:52:23.599Thank you.
00:52:24.000 -->
00:52:24.719Of course, of course.
00:52:24.960 -->
00:52:25.440You're welcome.
00:52:25.519 -->
00:52:26.159And it's cool.
00:52:26.239 -->
00:52:32.639So for everybody watching, thanks for joining, and we'll see you on the next episode of the Fresh Patch Podcast.
00:52:33.280 -->
00:52:33.519Later.
00:52:33.920 -->
00:52:34.159Thank you.
00:52:34.480 -->
00:52:38.320Thanks for listening to the Fresh Patch Podcast where good pets get it.
00:52:38.480 -->
00:52:39.920We hope you enjoyed the show.
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