Aging Gracefully: One Woman’s Natural Facelift Journey

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You're listening to the Confident Choice Podcast with me, Dr.
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Roberto Garcia, a double board certified facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon.
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Honest conversations and expert advice about the decisions that make you feel your best.
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Welcome, everybody, to The Confident Choice. I'm your host, Dr.
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Roberto Garcia, and we are now filming episode 10, and we're going to talk a
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little bit today about the emotional impact, and I have one of my most favorite people, okay?
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Thank you. I'm sorry to have to say it. Thank you. No offense to all my patients, okay?
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I'm not, but Jackie, you and I have been friends for a while. A while.
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And I'm so thrilled and honored to have you on here. And you have been so supportive of our practice.
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You just seem to have done it right, you know? Well, I had help.
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Truly, your staff, it starts with the staff, and then you are the, you are it. You are Dr.
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Roberto Garcia. You're fantastic.
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Besides that, okay, now I got to, okay, I'm done complimenting you. Yes, please.
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Now I'll ask you lots of questions. Let's talk about, let's get to the crux of,
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well, the podcast, since we designed it,
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was really driven as an informational basin that people could grab different
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pieces in order to afford them the ability to really make a sound decision, right?
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And you know this because you've known me for a while that, you know,
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we're very detailed in what we do and we're very informative, right?
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And we want our patients to be really, really, I want them to be experts.
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And so when When you were first the very beginning and you were saying,
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you know, maybe I should do something, maybe I shouldn't, what was it that you, that drove you?
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You know, I looked tired. So my body felt amazing.
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I felt 35 years old. And then I would look in the mirror on the side and I would
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see gravity just falling.
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And I said, oh, my gosh, I've got to do something.
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And I called my mother. I said, oh, my gosh, I have to do something.
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I'm going to get a facelift.
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She says, you're beautiful. You don't need a facelift. And I said, I'm getting a facelift.
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And so I remember the first time I came to you.
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And I said, Dr. Garcia, I'm really not sure I need anything,
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thinking you would just send me home.
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Instead, you said, Jackie, we can do this.
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And I said, OK, I need to think about it. I never make a decision immediately.
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I take all the information you give me, and I go home and I think about it.
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And I thought about it, and it took me about 20 minutes.
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And I called the office, and I said, sign me up.
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And I wasn't afraid. You know, I was healthy, right?
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And so I was eating correctly. I had a nutritionist that I worked with.
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She told me I had been eating, getting ready for this, knowing that one day I was going to do it.
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So I had my pineapple, my blueberries, the good protein, and I knew that I would
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have a pretty decent recovery. So I wasn't afraid, and I knew I had good medical attention.
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So it was that time when you said, Jack, we're going to do this,
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and then I thought, well, I'm going to get the whole— why don't you say what I did?
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Tell everyone—they're all looking. Tell them what I did. I have no problem.
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I don't remember. Oh! But the
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point, well, I'm not saying that because I haven't reviewed your chart.
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That's not, nothing that we did jumps out.
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Well, I had my chin. You gave me a tuck here. And then you did my upper.
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And I had staples. Was it staples? Yeah, it's staples, yeah.
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And I was, I said, oh my gosh, I can, I was more nervous about the staples coming out. Yep.
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Which did not hurt one bit, mind you. And I thought, oh my gosh, do I really need this?
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And I, and then I was, and most people are concerned about the recovery.
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And it was that one night in the hotel. Yeah. I just felt, my head felt heavy.
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But because I did everything right before I was prepared, mentally and physically,
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I was ready and my results are looking natural.
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Right. And that's what I wanted. I did not want to be pulled back and look like
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I had a facelift. I wanted to be natural.
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So someone would say, actually, someone said to me the other day,
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how do you look the same from 20 years ago?
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And I looked at him and I said, I had face work.
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And he says, you're kidding me. And I said, no, I'm not kidding you.
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I tell people that I had face work.
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I think it's important for people to share so they can.
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Well, and you know, and that's an important point because obviously we've talked
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about this before that you've been such a proponent of our practice.
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But that has changed, right? Because I can look back at the beginning of my
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career where I was trying to build patience, right? I was trying to build a practice.
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And every surgery I did, I was begging patients, can I use your before and afters?
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Can I do this? Can I get you to say this?
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And I got a lot of dose because there was this mystery and people didn't want to talk about it.
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And I think I can kind of pinpoint when social media really became mainstay
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on the screens of Americans,
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right, and really worldwide, that's when that inhibition began to be lifted, right?
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Because now you saw patients saying, you know, I want to be proud of something.
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You know, I'm proud of what I did.
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And, you know, going back to where you first kind of made that decision,
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not deciding for us to come here, what was it that you talked about the inside
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not matching the outside? Correct.
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Super healthy, which you've always been very fit, thin, healthy.
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Was there a comparative thing that you had going on with friends or younger
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people? No, it didn't matter to me. It was all about how I felt.
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I didn't care what other people looked like. I cared what I looked like.
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It was, I'm not a competitive, I mean, I'm competitive in the workforce,
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but I'm not competitive.
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Oh, that person looks great. I want to look like her.
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It was never like that. I want to look myself. I want to be happy.
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I want to get dressed in the morning. I want to look in the mirror.
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I said to my sister this morning, I said, Ronnie, and she'll probably be upset
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that I'm talking about her.
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I said, tell me, when you look in the mirror, what do you see?
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She says, I don't really look in the mirror.
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I put my makeup on and I run out. And I said, I don't do that.
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I look in the mirror and I say to myself, I feel really good today.
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Well, in our first episode, we talked about the impetus of why people choose this, right?
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And it really came down to, I am tired of seeing something I don't like that
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I want to correct, right? Bottom line. Right.
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And that's with anything. I'm tired of driving the same car,
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so I want to change the car.
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I'm tired of this makeup doing this to my skin, so I want to change the makeup, etc.
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But it's such a personal decision that you obviously see something in yourself
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that somebody else doesn't see in their self. I'll give you a point.
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Just yesterday, I'm talking to a patient, sweet lady.
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And she mentioned that she thought that
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the surgery well she may I'm not going to say any
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names but she may get angry with me if she had listens to this podcast
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but I had a nice really nice discussion with her about the psychology of why
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we do this and you know the thought was this is a superficial thing to do and
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I kind of was taken back a little bit and I said well hold Hold on a second.
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When I was young in my career, there was a point because when I started off,
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I was doing a lot of trauma.
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I was doing a lot of pediatric trauma down at Wolfson. So I felt like I was
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really making a dent in society, right?
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I was helping these kids that otherwise would have ended up scarred and mangled,
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and I was giving them a second chance.
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And then you start a cosmetic practice, and the first thing you start thinking
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is, am I really doing meaningful things, right? Am I really helping people?
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But then I start meeting more people like you.
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Where you see that what you are doing is insanely meaningful.
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Look, I'm a happy person. I'm a confident person whether or not I had a facelift.
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I just, I feel good. Yeah. I feel refreshed.
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I feel happy. I'm always, always happy, but I feel maybe a little happier.
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And when I get dressed and I look in the mirror, I say, wow, I'm good.
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Did you ever feel in the post-operative process, oh gosh, what have I done? No.
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And I say that very quickly. Even early in the process? Never.
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Never. Ever. Never.
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I mean I see it so often Did I even talk about it In our app I was so happy,
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You know it all depends When you go in with a good attitude You hope you come
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out with a You go in and you come out And I was just very,
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I was good I don't know how
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to say it Well you have a very positive person
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You know the recovery people always want to know about the recovery process Jackie
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talk about the recovery how long were you in the house did
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you ever go okay so just to let everybody know i
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went out after i wasn't on any meds after two days and then i was i didn't drive
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but i put a hat on i because i didn't have much scarring i didn't have black
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and blue yeah i mean i don't even barely i went out i went to the grocery store
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and i sat at my computer and i worked all day,
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And so I was able to do those things, and I think that's what people are afraid of.
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Oh, am I going to be down for 10 days? Am I going to be able to watch the kids?
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Who's going to take care of me?
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Really, it was because I did everything my nutritionist told me to do,
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my body was ready for this surgery.
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I just healed beautifully. Well, I will tell you that we, as a field,
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we never learned about nutrition in medical school. Never.
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And I think now medical school is a little different. I think they may touch
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more. We learned about vitamins and whatnot.
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But what I saw with you sold me on the importance.
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And I've always talked about, okay, it's important to eat protein and do these things.
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But what you did. Plant protein. no red meats i mean there's a lot of a lot
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that goes into it pineapple for i think for better tissue building i don't know
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something helps with collagen well okay so i mean i did everything and i ate
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so many blueberries i'm surprised i don't look like one yeah i mean that's how many i ate,
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pineapple i had fish yep i had chicken i didn't have any red meat.
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I didn't, oh, I love my liquor and my wine.
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Sorry for the pun. That's what I like. And maybe once or twice a week when I
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knew I was having surgery. Right.
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Well, so much so that we're implementing a pre-surgical nutritional program
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and we're going to implement the things that you need to do after,
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basically off of your inspiration.
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Right. I think it's really important. So when you sign up, when you sign that
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paperwork and you're ready, someone hands you something and says,
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hey, this is what you need to do.
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And they should meet with a nutritionist. I mean, I don't know if your practice
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will allow them to meet with a nutritionist just once to talk to the person.
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And then they're on their own.
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But a program that this individual, this new patient could follow and know that
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they've done one thing right before surgery. Yeah.
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Yeah, for sure. It's a matter of your car is only going to perform as well as what you put into it.
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And I can see a clear separation between those who do the preoperative work and those that don't.
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I don't know any other physician that talks about nutrition.
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I don't know anyone who talks about nutrition. And I think it's such an important part of surgery. Yeah.
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Did you ever read a book called, uh, it was by a guy named Peter Atiyah.
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He's a health guy and he, maybe it wasn't Peter Oteo, but anyway.
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It's a good thing I didn't say yes. No.
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And it'll come to me and I'll put it in the comments later what the book was.
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Outlive. The book is called Outlive.
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No, I have not. Great book. Okay, I will. So this guy. Outlive.
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Make sure I remember that. I'll text it to you later. Okay. But this author
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talks about the goal of longevity is you want to be healthy until the last year
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of your life, right, or last six months.
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And they found that if one made it to the age of 90 healthy,
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then their chances of having one of the big four, which was heart,
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diabetes, neurological disease, or cancer, was significantly reduced.
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But when you had an unhealthy lifestyle up until your 50s, 60s,
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then you were more prone to have a long period of time of sickness, right?
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And so you see those people that they have those diabetic feet or,
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you know, they're wobbling around and they're 70 years old and they're barely getting by, right?
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And then you see those guys on the golf course, I see them, that are 92 years
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old and they may not be able to hit the ball far, but they're out there walking, you know?
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And so that's that kind of that magical point that what he was saying is,
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you got to fight off disease by prevention on the front end,
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which is what you've been advocating. And exercise. Exercise.
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And exercising every day. So important. And I want to go back to nutrition sugar.
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Is a no-no. Additional sugar. It's a double. Right. Anything processed is the
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double. Right, right. You know?
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But exercise, and for those watching, I do Pilates Reformer.
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I do strength training at my age, and I will tell my age, I'm 66.
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I do a lot of strength training, and I do a lot of walking, and I think that's
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really, really important.
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For sure. And if you can just do, if you can't do it seven days a week,
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do it twice a week, but do something.
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Yeah. Because I think if you are going to have surgery, you have to implement all of that. Yeah.
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And you'll feel better. Yeah. And so many times throughout my career,
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I've seen patients that will do a lift.
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And it's almost like their mind reboots afterwards.
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And they say, I'm going to start hitting the gym. I'm going to stop eating processed foods.
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I'm going to do A, B, and C. And it's almost like that one thing that they needed
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to really help another component of their life that was completely unrelated.
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Could you imagine if they had done it before? Right. Right. Right?
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And, but we're, but I will say though, in, in, in my years of doing this,
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I'm finding more and more patients that are preoperatively interested in the betterment, right?
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It's almost like they're saying, and I don't know if it's maybe part of this
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GLP one world that we live in now where patients come in and they're like,
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I'm really interested in the betterment of my, of my physical self and I'm feeling great.
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I'm, you know, I'm hitting the gym or I'm, I'm running, you know,
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two or three days a week, which I never did in my 40s.
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And then all of a sudden, you got some loose skin or whatever it might be around
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your eyes or your brows, and you want to correct that. Right.
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Speaking of eyes, I just want to remind you, I think I came in with a friend and I said to, I said, Dr.
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Garcia, take a look at my eyes. And you said to me, I'm not touching your eyes.
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Don't ask me again. I'm not touching your eyes.
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You want me to make you look funny looking? And I'm like, no,
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no, no. You were kidding, of course.
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But the fact is you told me no.
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And I loved that. You could have said, yes, we'll do it. And I would have said, okay.
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Did you say no? Yeah, but that's not the right thing for you.
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No. But what I'm saying is what I love about your practice is if it's not right for you, you say no.
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Of course. And that's what I like. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's not. And one of the things that's most important for a physician
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to realize that I really do hope that young physicians understand this.
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When a patient comes to you, you have to find out what their pain is and then you fix their problem.
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But if you start making up things that perhaps don't even bother them,
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then you're really doing them a disservice, right?
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And so, you know, I've said this before, you're going to look at yourself 10
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times in a day, right? Mirror, makeup, whatever.
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I'm going to see you 10 times in a year. Right. Right.
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So really the person I'm most interested in, and, and having appreciation of
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the procedure is the patient. Right. Right.
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And so if, if I see something that.
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Don't absolutely think is going to bring that happiness to the patient,
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don't do it. Right. You know? Right.
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But unfortunately, and I was talking with Dr. Basil about this.
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I know you love him. And I will admit, I want to just tell everyone,
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all these listeners, that after my facelift, I felt so great.
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I had some loose skin and I went to him and I told him I only wanted a certain part done.
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And he says, no, you really need both. And I said, no, let me think about it.
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And I went home and I thought about it. And he did. I don't know.
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What do you say when you remove?
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Brachioplasty. Okay, because it was genetic. He said, oh, which grandmother had it?
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I said, actually. You see him saying that. I actually said both.
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And then he said, oh, my gosh, you're from New York. I could tell.
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We grew up a couple of towns away. Yeah, yeah.
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And then he said, and then I said, well, I'm going to do my tummy.
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I should have done, you know, he was, it was amazing. and he did fantastic work.
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So on the way here, I listened to the podcast. Oh, you did?
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Yes. Oh, he's great. And I giggled. I said, this is so funny.
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Syracuse, Syracuse. I know. I mean, I heard the whole thing. I know.
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And I'm embarrassed to say I didn't remember him as a medical student. But he remembered you.
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Remember you walked in, he was a little afraid of you? Yeah. I heard that. I know.
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And when I first met him years back. It's true.
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And he told me that story and I was like, I usually remember the students.
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You know, because I love teaching. Right.
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But we were talking about that...
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It's hard for a physician who's trying to tell a patient no.
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In the back of their head, they're saying, I hope they don't go somewhere and seek a yes.
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And I hope they don't try to find that patient. And you talked about that on your podcast.
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Yeah. Right. I remember you talked about that. Yeah. And Patrick is a little
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bit more proactive about it.
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And he'll tell them, hey, listen, you're going to go somewhere.
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You're going to probably find somebody to say yes. I don't recommend it.
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And a lot of times, I feel that that's something I probably should do more of.
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And say, listen, you're going to find somebody that's going to say yes,
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because there's always surgeons out there that will operate.
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Truthfully, I think you should just do exactly what you're doing.
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If you don't think it's right, you say it's not right. Yeah. And leave it at that.
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You know, talking about you're going to go find a surgeon, just leave it as you're doing fine.
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Yeah. People trust you. Well, I just don't like patients to,
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unfortunately, and I see less of it now, though, where they go elsewhere,
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right? So after years, you gain credibility and whatnot.
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Let them go elsewhere. I know. You don't want to do their work if they're not
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in. Just let them go. You have enough patience.
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Yeah, but I still feel bad for them, you know? You'll get over it.
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All right, well. Is that terrible to say? No, no, no, no. It's honest, you know?
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And so we are going to, we always close.
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You've been amazing, by the way. Oh, with a story? Yes. Yes.
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Wait, can I just say one thing about your office staff?
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So what's great about this practice, and I'm not,
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saying it. I'm not fibbing. It's the warmth. It's if you have surgery,
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and I'm going to tell all the watchers out there, when you have surgery,
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if you have a problem, you call the office and somebody will get back to you. I have Dr.
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Garcia's cell number. Call me. I'll give it to you.
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Eight o'clock. After that, I turn into a pumpkin. But on the topic of the warmth, Yes.
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My father, as you may not know. Thank you. Thank you.
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Was the warmest person, right? He had a huge heart.
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And one of the things that I've been doing on these podcasts is talking about,
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you know, little lessons that I picked up along the way that I can kind of attribute.
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And, you know, I thought that a good lesson to talk about today,
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and I just wanted to make sure that I had enough time,
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the growth in anything you do is a micro-movement,
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right? A meaningful growth.
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And a lot of times, patients expect these major cataclysmic things to happen
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overnight, and nothing that's meaningful happens overnight.
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And I first learned that when I was in pre-med, and I remember my dad telling me, he says.
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One class at a time, one lecture at a time, one test at a time, and it's micro.
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And just because you don't do well on one test in one class in one semester
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does not dictate what the macro will look like.
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What will dictate the macro is if you don't learn from the mistake that you
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made and you don't correct path,
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correct the course, or if you hold yourself down so much that you end up quitting
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on yourself before you ever gave yourself a chance.
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And so he was always the, I'm just going to, and I think we've talked about
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it, the beating of the drum, the constant background sound, right?
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And he was always that, hey, just little by little, just make a little crack
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at it. A little every day, make a movement.
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And you're a lawyer. No. You're not a lawyer. Me is the lawyer.
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I'm the business owner. You're the business. All right. Well,
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okay. hey, as a business owner, how many times have you failed in the building
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of a business or in basic concepts? You learn from everything.
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Every time you fail, you learn. Yeah. It's really important. Yeah.
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I thought you were a lawyer. No, Nina's the lawyer and she's going to get a
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kick out of this when she watches. Oh, because I was going to tell you about a case that I'm in.
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I was going to ask you for some legal advice. No, but you can call Nina.
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I'm going to call Nina, but Nina doesn't want to work anymore. She's retired.
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Right, that's true. But I'm the business owner. If you're on a I'm on the board
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of a publicly traded company. I've done a lot. So, yes.
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So, I'm good. But I just want to say one thing before we end.
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Just because you give a great facelift doesn't mean that people shouldn't take
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care of their skin afterwards.
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For sure. And I think that's really, really important. And that's what your staff has taught me.
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Well, you have great skin. Well, and I- You had great skin in four times.
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I did have great skin. That is true.
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I start, because I work on it. You cared about it. And I don't really wear much
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makeup, blush, mascara, a little lipstick.
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Yeah, so- You didn't become one of those transplants from New York that was
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with the iodine in the mirrors and all that? Do you know when I was younger?
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No kidding. My parents bought a sunlamp. We used to take the tinfoil and go
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like this in my bedroom and do so we can get a sunburn.
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So I know your Floridians are talking about, oh, we got New Yorkers.
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It was horrible. It was like this, and we got beautiful color. We felt great.
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And then I have a lot of brown spots, but I'm not doing anything about it.
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I wonder if that's what the concept of those tanning beds were because— I never
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went in a tanning bed. Yeah. It's too claustrophobic for me.
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Yeah, and it's just—it's what—one thing that people don't understand is as you
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get older, as your skin thins, You go out in the sun and you get a dark spot like that.
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I have them. I have them. I mean, I just use moisturizer and SPF,
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but I have them and I'm just going to keep them. Yeah.
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Well, each one tells a story. Well, thank you again. It's such an honor to have you.
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You know how much I love you and everything you've done. It's my pleasure.
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Thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure.
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Thanks for everyone listening to me and to Dr. Garcia. We are a sweet team. Thank you.
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Well, so thank you, everybody. This concludes episode 10, Alyssa.
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Next week, we're going to be talking about some revision surgery and the nuts
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and bolts of it and why we do it and what kind of pitfalls we want to avoid.
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And I'm going to sign off with our famous line that with good information comes great decisions.
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Thanks, everybody. Have a great week.