Just Ella

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I came across this in her Wikipedia entry and it reminds it, this, it makes so much sense after reading just Ella that some of her favorite books growing up apparently included Harriet De Spy and of Green Gables Little Women, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm and The Little Princess.
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Okay.
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Slay.
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That makes
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Yes, it does.
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welcome back to that Pretentious Book Club.
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Welcome.
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This is your host, Ash Rourke.
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AKA, Wheezy Wheezy.
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I thought you were gonna just keep going into my slogan.
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oh.
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You know you're supposed to do yourself
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Oh, it ain't easy being wheezy and
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and over here.
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And over here.
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Your other host, Kendall Shaw, also known as Dr.
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Spoons Palermo.
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Hi.
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Howdy.
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What's up?
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What if I added what's up to the end of
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I think you just did.
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or?
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I think you should.
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I, I guess a permanent fixture.
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I think everybody should like it, so.
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Okay.
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I think
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It happened.
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and
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End.
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board with, it's that whether you like it or not.
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It's been a minute, clearly you tell, we don't have our semi new green screen background which I know you all loved so much.
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No one said anything about it, by the way, and I worked really hard on it.
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I'm just kidding.
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But no one said anything about it, which is fine, but, and now we're not doing it again anyways'cause I dunno how to do it on this new software we're using, but hopefully our videos will be higher quality and our audio will be higher quality.
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So that's exciting.
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So if this looks different, that's why.
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And if you guys don't wanna hear our nonsense, you can use the
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You can leave.
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notes.
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You can get outta here into the episode description
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Yeah,
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the skip notes down there.
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But I think is that said where we are, right?
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Yeah.
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The Apprehentious book club.
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I said it.
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Yeah, we, yeah, I said it Know where you are.
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Do any of us really ever know
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I know where I am in Wisconsin.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Wisconsin.
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I thought it was Wyoming by then.
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Oh, maybe it was, I get confused.
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Where did they say Quinche wa?
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Oh my gosh.
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Also, I know it might be a little bit echoy on our side.
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This bug has entered, there is a little bitty moth that has entered the scene.
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fourth host.
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It's,'cause there's, there's lights everywhere.
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The moth.
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Hello?
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Hello.
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Okay, now it's like coming at me.
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Could you just,
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That its introductions.
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Yeah, there you go.
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That was a good introduction.
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All right.
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Goodbye.
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It's a little echoey anyways, and it's back.
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He might just appear now then.
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This whole episode is just us talking about a moth,
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Yeah, her name is Mara.
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Hello Maha.
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In honor of Mora.
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What?
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The mother of monsters?
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Yeah, whatever.
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Whatever.
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She is Queen of the monsters.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's gonna be distracting hell for me.
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Oh my God.
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guys.
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Sorry.
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She is
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So I'm gonna, uh, you're all here with me listening to the podcast today.
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While, while those two,
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I've lost the other two hosts.
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They're gone.
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I dunno where
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sorry.
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saying I have bought like acoustic panels to make this room less echoy because it's awesome and wonderful And I do have an office now.
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I'm in a new space, which is super exciting.
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But it's echoy so.
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Yeah, you'll just have to deal with that.
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This stuff.
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Acoustic panels.
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Incoming.
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Yeah, incoming.
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And one of them has flowers on it.
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So good.
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just duct tape pillows all around the room.
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But
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Yeah,
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that's me.
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it.
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I thought about it.
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It's like what I've done previously or where I've like been on the ground in my closet surrounded by clothes, and I'm like,
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You are not the first person I know.
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That's recorded podcasts that way.
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it makes sense.
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I mean, you have like all that natural, like sound absorbing.
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Anyways Gino, how has your life been lately?
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Oh goodness.
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We're starting with me.
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Okay.
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If you are not interested in, um, birds then skip ahead 20 minutes.
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'cause this is a, this is a ride.
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Skip to the end of the episode.
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Yeah.
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the closing credits, spirit and Moth
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Uh, this whole episode is just about my words, so it's kind of funny because I haven't told you anything because we were gonna record like three weeks ago and things happened and I was like, oh, I'll just talk about it on the pod.
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And then we didn't record, and then I was like, okay, well I'll just wait.
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And then I wait.
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And then just more and more stuff keeps happening and it's, it's just out of control at this point.
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So that's a big update.
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I, yeah, it's like a huge update.
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So oh, like quick little actual kind of pod thing.
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Update is, we had our writing retreat,
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Oh yes, we
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we haven't talked to all since then.
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Oh,
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No,
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It was really good, you guys.
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It was
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it was awesome.
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Uh, everybody loved it so much that some people are coming back for our next one, which is in Pennsylvania October 16th.
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And if you're interested in that, go ahead to our website and,
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private room left.
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Everybody.
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One private room.
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That's it.
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But also we have loads of space in the bunk rooms,
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And all the other rooms include us staring at you while you sleep all night.
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Um, so,
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So that sounds fun.
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Yeah.
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Didn't mean mm-hmm.
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Like that, but yeah,
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so while I was at the retreat I got a phone call'cause my mom was taking care of my birds and she was like yeah, I found your bird dead.
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And I was like, which bird?
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And then anyways, I got home and Phil was like, I think.
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You have half a chicken.
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Um, I saw it like running down by the road and it looked like it didn't have a butt.
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And I was like, okay.
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So I got home counted chickens.
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I had, I lost two and a half chickens.
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Um, because one of them literally got its toll behind, ripped off.
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no.
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Like there was just like organs.
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But I had a chicken before.
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I had a chicken before that got, its like skull peck open and its brain was just like braining right there.
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And it was fine.
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It like healed over.
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It was fine'cause I was like, ugh.
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Yeah.
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other people are much.
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that got like, its whole back ripped off so you could just look in and see
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Yeah,
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it, it was, she healed and she lived longer than all the other chickens.
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It was freaking
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exactly.
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This butt missing chicken has actually grown back most of its butt at this point.
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Yes.
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can't believe this.
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Honestly, I didn't place my money on that.
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I didn't realize this about chickens.
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So.
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you know?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Or lizards or something.
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Good lord.
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So then I started losing like almost a bird a day, but it was like middle of the day.
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So it wasn't even like near morning or night, like I couldn't keep it.
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And it was to the point where I was like checking out the window like every 10 minutes or like every time I heard any sort of squawk, which I squawk all the time for every and no reason at all.
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So I was constantly just running to the door, being like, what's going on?
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I'm, and then the one night I went out and fed them and came back inside and 30 minutes later I went to go do something outside and I was like, I'm missing someone.
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So here's the tragedy.
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Gki, my blind duck was taken
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Oh, no,
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and
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I, I think
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I, I did not,
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you didn't.
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I
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No.
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Oh my God.
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I
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I don't, oh, maybe I did.
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I don't think I did.
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Anyways.
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Yeah, so I, and then I found her, her body, um,'cause I think like it had just happened and I went outside and I knew she hadn't gone, like everyone else was missing and she was missing too, but she also can't walk well.
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So I was like, I know she's not with everyone else because she can't get around.
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So she, yeah, it, I'm pretty sure it's a fox that was taking them, Just from like the, what we found of her.
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And then I feel like I lost a couple more chickens, but I haven't, knock on wood.
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Oh, that's not true.
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I haven't lost any of the chickens since then.
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I say momentarily.
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Then a couple days later, I, I voice texted, Ash and I was like, so.
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I'm having a day.
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I was like, I went out to the store'cause I was sad.
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I went to the farm store and um, I was just gonna look at the chicks because they make me happy.
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And then they were on clearance.
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So then I, I got 40 chicks and then I came home and the minute I walked in the door, I sat them down and I started crying because I was like, oh my God, now I have to take care of 40 chicks.
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I was distraught.
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14.
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No, 40.
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40.
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Oh my God.
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Now I would also be crying a lot of shit.
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You were
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got 20.
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this grief hole
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I know,
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like,
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I know.
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Except for I, um, got home and I immediately started crying.
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'cause I was like, I'm overwhelmed.
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Yeah.
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did I do this?
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So
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my
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had 20, 20 meat chicks and 20 egg layers.
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And then here's more tragedy.
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And I shouldn't admit this to the world, but I am, I killed one of the meat birds on accident.
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I put their water thing on top of her and didn't see her.
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And the next morning when I went to pick it up, she was just dead.
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And I was like, well, that sucks.
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And
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Well, I mean,
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then,
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like they're not very, yeah, for real.
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Right.
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Who knows what That one was
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then I had this, I, I told, uh, Ash, I was like, I'm determined to make one of these a cuddle chicken'cause none of my birds like, like to go near me.
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And I was like, I'm determined to have a cuddle chicken.
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So I had this one that I was like, she so like kept petting her and like hands on and everything.
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And I moved them outside to like their baby coop outside.
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And then I killed that one.
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I squished her with the water towel.
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And I was distraught.
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I was distraught.
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my gosh.
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No, sorry.
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That
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And
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sent me over the edge.
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I
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sorry.
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like, that whole day I was like, I had a good morning beforehand.
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I was like, oh, doing this, doing that, doing this and being so accomplished and I'm gonna do this, this, this after I take care of the chickens.
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And I went in there and I couldn't find her and I picked up the water and I was like, oh my God.
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And then I texted Phil and I was like, are you busy?
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He was at work and he was like, yes.
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And I was like, okay.
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He's like, what do you need?
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I was like, nothing.
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And he called like four hours later and he's like, what's up?
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And I was like, I just needed to cry.
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And then like, I'd finally like, kind of leveled out and then he was like, what's up?
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So then I start all over again.
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comes
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I just felt horrible for like the next three days'cause she was so sweet.
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And then I just murdered her.
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Manslaughter.
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It was an accident.
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You wouldn't be, it would not be a life without parole.
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It.
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And then and then, a couple days later, I feel like I'm forgetting something good that happened in here, but,
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the five other kicks.
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but no,'cause it gets, still gets worse.
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Oh my God.
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I got a postcard in the mail like a week after Gki died.
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That was like G's a vet appointment year, year vet appointment is due today.
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I was like, way to rub it in.
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Oh my gosh.
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I hate, I still, I got one from my cat when, at like a month after she died and I was like, I'm going to end it
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I.
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I couldn't even handle, so I'm so sorry.
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Apparently my vet called Hobby and was like, are you guys ever gonna come pick up your cat's ashes?
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And I was like, what?
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had this like total false memory of having gone and picked up her ashes, but I hadn't.
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Horrible.
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It's so horrible.
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A really nice rose.
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Do you have'em now?
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Okay, I have them now.
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They're on display in the living room.
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Okay.
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Oh Lord.
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This is a sad episode.
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Oh no.
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Who
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listen, listen.
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It gets worse.
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No,
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It gets a, it gets a little worse, but then at the end it gets better.
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At the very end it gets better.
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Okay.
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We're almost there.
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need another drink.
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So I haven't even had a sip of my drink yet.
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So like four days ago I went out to put, I put all the baby chicks in the meats and the eggs in the one coop.
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And then during the day they go outside to separate like pens.
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Because if I feed, I can like leave the feed out for the egg layers.
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But if you leave the feed out for the meat chickens, they'll just eat and eat and eat until they explode.
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So they have to go in separate things.
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But anyways, I went out to do my morning routine and like fed the big chickens and blah, blah, blah.
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And then I went to go see the little chickens and their, their coop is inside a bigger pen where my Drakes are, my drapes are in permanent Drake jail.
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And I look over,
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for anyone who doesn't know.
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I look over and all the baby chicks.
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Well no, all the egg laying chicks are just running around the Drake pen and like they're, they're not supposed to.
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Their coop door is locked and shut and they can get out of the Drake pen.
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And also, I don't know if the Drakes would hurt them.
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They did not hurt them, but
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a
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the door to the coop is wide open and I was like, there's no way I left that open, because they escape the second you leave it open.
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So I was like, I know.
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I shut that and I look and the, uh, the wire on the door is bloody.
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So I start counting chicks.
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Someone ordered a six piece chicken nugget last night
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No.
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and I lost six more chicks and all the meat chicks had like piled out into the bin that I used to transfer them.
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So they were all like hiding down there.
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So I was like, where are living?
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But they were there.
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But yeah, so I lost six more chicken nuggets.
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So Phil and I spent that day reinforcing the door.
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Oh my gosh.
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and I have like, my camera traps up now too, and it's on lockdown.
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And then.
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Random info that's not part of the storyline, but I have two broody mom chicks.
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So they're set chickens, they're sitting in there and, uh, I candle them and I couldn't see a lot of the chicken eggs, but I'm pretty sure I have some duckling eggs that they're hatching.
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So my, my mama chicks are gonna be duckling moms.
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They're adopted children.
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Aw, I love it so
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but here's where it gets good.
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I have also been incubating chicks, ironically, the day I went and picked up 40 chicks, I filled my incubator with 18 eggs, and then I went to the store and bought 40 chicks.
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And
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were like,
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I know
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Hey,
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I was like, that's a lot of work.
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I don't know if I want chickens
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And now you're like, so I have 275 birds.
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185 birds later.
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Okay.
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But I'm texting Phil to go put the ducks away right now, actually.
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So.
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They were supposed to hatch today the baby chicks.
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But yesterday I went out into the garage to get something else and I was like, da, da da.
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And I looked and I was like, holy mother of, and there's like four baby chicks like staring out at me from the incubator.
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They all had, they hatched.
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And yesterday they hatched and hatched.
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We got 14 of them that hatched yesterday.
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They're so cute.
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They're just these tiny little fluff balls.
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I always get'em from the store.
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I get'em when they're like a week or two old'cause they're cheaper that way.
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But so they were like the tiniest little fluff balls and they're so cute.
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And, um,
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and you are their mother.
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yeah, I was like, I am your mother.
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Um, but now I'm trying to decide whether I'm gonna try and shove them under the Broy moms and be like, these are your babies.
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Or if I'm gonna just raise them separate from them, but it's.
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chicken, this is an ideal time to choose a
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I know
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Yeah.
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there's at least two of them that like when I go in there, if I put my hand in there, they come up to me as opposed to all other chickens like run away from me.
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They're like, Hey mom.
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So yeah.
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So sweet.
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life.
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Wow.
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yeah,
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of life.
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so been crazy.
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I also have two wild ducks trying to join my flock.
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Like they come here occasionally and hang out with the ducks.
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But yeah, it's, my life has been nothing but pure birds for the last three weeks at least.
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birds.
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Birds, birds, birds.
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That is so much birds.
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Oh my goodness.
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So
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Like I, the emotional highs and lows I just experienced.
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Really, dude, for real.
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Wow.
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it's funny'cause like I kept wanting to tell, I have no one to tell these things to, so I kept wanting to text you, but I was like, but I can't just text her in the middle of this.
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It has to start from the beginning.
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I'm just gonna save it, go through it all.
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she needs to have the context.
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I am still thinking about, I really thought you said 14 chickens.
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No, 40, 40 chickens.
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I was like 14 chickens.
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And you were like, no, I'm home on a, an overwhelmed.
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And I'm like, honestly, that's reasonable.
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14 chicks.
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Like that's all 40 chicks.
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Oh my God.
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You're wild.
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It's a good thing she
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He,
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Like
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I just hatched 14 babies.
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Yes.
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There you go.
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my.
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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That is
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So what's everyone whose life doesn't revolve around birds Up to.
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Spoons on how, how was any bird stories?
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Any bird stories?
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I don't know.
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Oh, well, I did I mention we had a, I do have bird stories.
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Woo.
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It's bird had birds.
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they were like swallows or something.
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Mm-hmm.
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That mama laid at her nest in our wreath on our front door.
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Oh my God.
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And morning Dove did that at Maddie's house.
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Oh, really?
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Every time that you go over there, you scared the morning dove and she flies over to the neighbor's driveway.
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You guys, that's what she would fly.
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Our mama would fly to like our tree in the front yard.
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But like it, they was so weird because every time you open the door, like for a little second, like there are just.
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and chicks in your house.
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You know what I mean?
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It's really weird.
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It's so weird.
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You're
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I didn't think about that.
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it's really weird.
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And I was like, if Juicy ever found out about this, like, gosh, so thankfully she's stupid.
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She didn't know.
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But they were so cute.
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And they did hatch and they flew away and no casualties.
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Wow.
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I'm always like nervous about that.
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That's very impressive.
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But, um, Maddie has two bird nests, one in the back and the one on her wreath.
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And I'm very just frightened for her.
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I'm like, statistically I'm always scared.
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Oh, and then, oh, that's the other bird thing.
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You have two bird things.
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Yes.
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I forgot about, I was dog
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better have something there.
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Ash, get ready.
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take my sister's bird story?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You can.
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Tell us about Maddie's brain.
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I was over at, um, my aunt and uncle's like, this is several weeks ago now, but I don't think I told it on the pod.
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And I was dog sitting for them and my aunt had showed me.
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when she was just showing me around the house, like earlier that week that there was a nest in the backyard.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I was like, oh, cute.
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You know, didn't really think about it.
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And then the second night I'm there at their house, I outside and I see like a little baby bird hopping around in the grass.
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And it whole thing was so crazy.
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I'm just gonna like not tell the whole story.
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But the there ended up being like many little tiny birds hopping around this backyard where there are two dogs.
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And I did not realize that like.
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This is the birds were out there.
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So like I let the dogs out to like, you know, and one of the birds kept like flying into the fence.
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Like, she was they were like trying to fly, you know?
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They're tiny.
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Yeah.
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They had just had like, I don't know, recently.
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Oh my gosh.
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But she was like hitting the fence and I was like, ah, I don't know what to do.
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But like, I was like, you're gonna hurt yourself here.
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So I kinda like went over to her and I was trying to like guide her away, you know?
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Yeah.
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And she flew onto my hand.
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And so then I'm holding this tiny baby bird.
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Oh my gosh.
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And I Disney princess
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I was like, this is why we have bird stories.
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It's Ella, just Ella.
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exactly what it is.
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Oh yeah.
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I did feel like her.
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And so I'm holding this bird.
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And then another one, oh, like there were several in this area.
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And so then I'm holding two baby birds.
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Maybe I'll post a picture on the, you should absolutely Instagram, post the picture, because they were so like, ugly, cute, you know, like, oh my gosh.
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Yes.
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then I'm like, this is the craziest thing ever.
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I'm like, I am loving this.
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But in the back of my mind I'm like, am I like.
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Killing these birds right now.
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Like, you know, this is like really bad that I'm holding these birds, but I was like, okay, well they were hurting themselves, so I just, I actually helped themselves.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, oh, I'm doing my best here.
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So I like put them on like this area that I thought would be better for them, and they like were fine.
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But then I turned around and.
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There is something happening, on the grass, and it is another baby bird that is soaking wet and the dog is right next to her.
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Oh God.
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And I'm like, no.
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And so I like am freaking out because this bird is completely soaked in like saliva.
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Yeah.
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And Annie, the black lab is sitting there just looking at her and I'm like, Annie, go inside.
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And I'm like, freaking out.
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And so I grabbed this little bird.
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Oh my gosh.
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And she is like trembling tiny, like in complete shock.
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But I was like, oh my God.
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Like she was acting like she couldn't really like get up.
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She kept like trying to get up and then she'd fall uhhuh.
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And I'm like fully sobbing, you know?
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I'm like, this bird is die in my hands.
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And I killed her because I let the dog out and I'm like losing it.
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my God.
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And I couldn't really tell, like she seemed injured to me because she couldn't really like move very well.
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And so I was like, I don't know what to do.
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So I kind of like.
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I holding her for a while, just like hoping, like, you know, I don't know.
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It should be like, yeah, like be okay.
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Snap outta it.
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Fly away.
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so I'm just sitting
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She was probably stunned from being in a dog's mouth.
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I know.
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Poor thing.
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Yeah.
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And so I'm just sitting there like outside like sobbing, holding this bird who's like trembling and like falling over.
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And then I like am looking up like bird, like what do I do?
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I have an injured bird.
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Like, And so then I ended up even calling like this like, nature rehab place in Austin.
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like.
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They like closed, but it was like, just put it in a box and take it tomorrow anyway.
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And so I was like, okay, I just wanted to, but I didn't wanna bring the bird inside'cause it's my aunt and uncle's house and also the dogs are inside and I'm like, the dogs are what did this?
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So I'm freaking out.
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Oh gosh.
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So then I'm like, okay, maybe I'll just put her back in the nest.
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Like I know where the nest is.
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Maybe that would be good.
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Uhhuh.
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And she's kind of like calmed down a little bit.
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Uhhuh, but she's still not really moving great.
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But she's like at least dry and like not trembling as much.
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So I'm like, yay.
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So I put her back in the nest and she's just kind of sitting there and I keep coming back out like every like 30 minutes or so to check on her.
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Im just like a mess about this bird.
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Anyway, I am fully like.
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How it was like 1:00 AM The last time I checked, I went outside and the other birds had been coming into the nest and leaving and stuff.
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And so I was like, okay, at least she has friends.
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But then she was gone and I was like looking all around because all the other birds are so stupid and they keep, I couldn't let the dogs out because the birds were kidding me.
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Oh.
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stupid.
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I was so upset.
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Anyway, she ended up, I guess, flying away somehow I checked around and like did not see a dead bird anywhere.
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So I was like, I assume she was just in shock and needed a minute, but it was very, very stressful.
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And then my aunt was like I was like, Hey the ex hatch or whatever.
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And she was like, oh, I great.
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And I was like, there's no way in hell I am telling her that her dog almost ate one.
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Like she would have been a mess.
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It was so, oh my God.
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I was like, I'm not gonna ever convey to her how deeply this guard this event.
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So anyway, but I think they're all fine.
00:22:27.025 --> 00:22:31.329
But it was crazy that they were like, I felt so Snow White or Cinderella, I guess, and mm-hmm.
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I, I'll show you all the picture.
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Yeah.
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Either way, you've, you're very snow white often.
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I feel like your vibes, you're literally like, oh, thank you.
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A little yellow dress in your dark hair.
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Thank you so much.
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Very snow white.
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She is wearing her dark hair today.
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I, dark hair, hair.
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Thanks.
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I grew it myself.
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God, I appreciate that.
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Okay, now your bird story.
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Oh, my bird story.
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Yeah.
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My
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We don't wanna hear about anything else.
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yeah.
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Is there anything, this is a bird update.
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Yeah, we don't wanna hear anything else.
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We just wanna hear about birds.
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I mean, I can tell you guys that I, I moved recently and my personal life is in chaos, but that's just, you know, I'm honestly par for the course, but to a bird story, which is much more interesting, I think, which is, we're already 25 minutes in.
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We might as well stick to it.
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We got a theme
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I told them to skip 20 minutes ahead if they didn't wanna hear about birds.
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So I was.
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Well there's the, the, I'm just gonna steal from a couple different bird stories that have happened to me in the last year.
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There's the morning dab at my sister's house, which you would think that I would remember.
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'cause it's actually kind of startling to every time you open the door, a bird flies out at your face.
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Yes.
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I never remember whether I'm inside the house or outside the house.
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And I stayed a few days over there even.
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And you would think at some point that I would like remember that there's a dove nesting on the wreath.
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Never once have I remembered, I'll probably shock every time.
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It's a shock.
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It's like, oh my,
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I was gonna say, I mean this to the effect that you have realizations about what's happening in books.
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It, it tracks like
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it's really
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what?
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What I, Yep.
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Oh, here's like a fun from the, at our retreat actually, there was a Lacey, one of our attendees and a fabulous author who's also gonna be at the upcoming retreats.
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You guys should meet her.
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She actually wrote a poem about a mama bird with her babies that she and I saw at the retreat.
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Aw.
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And she actually like published it for Mother's Day, which was really cool.
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And it's like a, it's a really beautiful like poem about motherhood and it's very sweet.
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Um, but it's because there was this mama bird and we kept watching her just like bring back these massive spiders to feed her babies just like, it would be just dead silence.
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Then all of a sudden you see like the, and like the little like naked heads and the giant beaks, like coming out for the food.
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It was crazy.
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It was so
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That's awesome.
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I didn't know that.
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See when you said actually at the retreat, I thought you were gonna say actually at the retreat, uh, Gino told me, yeah, whatever.
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Uh,
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She did.
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Y'all, something happened.
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Something weird happened at the, see, this is why so spoons is, I assume coming.
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Tell me because you almost have to see it to believe it.
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You know how I'm like super productive?
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Like zoom, zoom girl.
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Yes.
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Right.
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And Gina's like, I'm having fun.
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I dunno how my camera works.
00:25:03.183 --> 00:25:03.693
You know?
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I dunno why you're talking about rude.
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Then we get there and this like crazy thing happened.
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It's like the day before.
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Like we were prepping.
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It's like on the drive.
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All of a sudden it's like we just like Freaky Friday.
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And she was like, I am large and in charge.
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I have a schedule.
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:22.528
I know exactly what needs to happen, when and where.
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And I was like, A great time.
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I loved this.
00:25:25.653 --> 00:25:27.064
It was insane.
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was hilarious.
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I was just like, I'm having fun.
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What do you need?
00:25:31.324 --> 00:25:32.703
You know, I'm having a great time.
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You know, was like she just started and I never once took it personally, but it was like the funniest thing because she would just all of a sudden be like, no, don't do that.
00:25:41.413 --> 00:25:42.913
I'd be like, Hey, do you need me to cut this up?
00:25:42.913 --> 00:25:48.423
And you're like, if you want anyone to eat soon, I'm just like happy chatting to basically just myself.
00:25:48.423 --> 00:25:50.374
And I'm like cutting up garlic bread.
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And I was like, I.
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I can't, way it sounds so stupid in my head when I, in my head, I understand why you reacted the way's butt of the bread.
00:26:00.203 --> 00:26:07.304
Like purely just like chattering away, just babbling, total like nonsense to just entertain myself, I guess.
00:26:07.364 --> 00:26:08.294
And I'm like, you know what?
00:26:08.794 --> 00:26:09.183
Get through it.
00:26:09.628 --> 00:26:10.189
I was crying.
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I'm so sorry you guys.
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I swear I can do this.
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I dunno why it's so funny.
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It's not even that funny's.
00:26:16.999 --> 00:26:21.078
I have actual tears coming down my face, which you guys can probably see'cause the video quality.
00:26:21.078 --> 00:26:21.378
So what
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Except your head's not in the video.
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Your head's not in the video.
00:26:25.844 --> 00:26:28.423
I'll be sure to cry closer to the camera next time.
00:26:28.923 --> 00:26:32.384
Anyway, so I'm cutting up the bread and I'm just like, you can do it.
00:26:32.884 --> 00:26:38.074
I wish I could tell this part of the story for you, but I even can't, and then I'll explain it once you get it out.
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Why I can't tell this part of the story?
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I am just getting up the
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'cause it's,
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I cut off like the butts of the bread and I'm like, you know what?
00:26:43.744 --> 00:26:44.375
A lot of people don't.
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I think she said a lot of people don't like the butts of the bread, but I really like the butts of the bread.
00:26:50.035 --> 00:26:50.424
Okay.
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But I can tell you that I, we broke spoons too.
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Funny.
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Worst
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I couldn't get it out.
00:26:58.535 --> 00:26:58.894
She
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I was like, I don't want, like, a lot of people don't like the butts of the bread, but I dunno why really?
00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:05.496
Like, but of the bread, I actually really like them.
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So
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and I.
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a conversation with myself, oh my
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But I, apparently she says this and I go, yeah, whatever, Ash.
00:27:14.151 --> 00:27:14.391
she
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But I don't, I didn't know I said it.
00:27:17.450 --> 00:27:23.349
I didn't even know I said it because I was like, in my brain, I wasn't listening to a word she said, I didn't know.
00:27:23.349 --> 00:27:24.190
She said that.
00:27:24.339 --> 00:27:32.829
I like vaguely heard her chattering and apparently those words came out of my mouth because I was like, okay, this is happening next, then I'm doing this, this is going on.
00:27:33.069 --> 00:27:34.480
Like that's where my brain was.
00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:35.910
And she said, I was like, yeah, whatever, Ash.
00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:39.710
And she was like, I have your reaction to It was like, ha, okay.
00:27:39.710 --> 00:27:40.460
And I was like, what?
00:27:40.700 --> 00:27:43.039
You were like, you just said, yeah, whatever, Ash.
00:27:43.250 --> 00:27:44.359
I was like, did I, I
00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:45.160
Yes.
00:27:45.219 --> 00:27:47.169
did not know I even said it.
00:27:47.650 --> 00:27:47.829
But
00:27:47.858 --> 00:27:48.909
was like, yeah, whatever Ash.
00:27:49.089 --> 00:27:54.430
like I was chattering about like bread butts, so I'm like, I understand why she would disregard this.
00:27:54.490 --> 00:27:54.549
Yeah.
00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:56.650
I actually really like them, but a lot of people don't.
00:27:56.859 --> 00:27:57.099
Yeah.
00:27:57.099 --> 00:27:57.549
Whatever.
00:27:57.549 --> 00:27:57.819
Ash.
00:27:58.319 --> 00:27:58.859
Yeah, whatever.
00:27:58.859 --> 00:27:59.190
Ash.
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And then she just like, she didn't even look at me.
00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:03.960
It was just, yeah, whatever Ash, and then just kept like going,
00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:09.259
I literally didn't even know I said it until she, she repeated it back to me.
00:28:09.411 --> 00:28:09.500
I
00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:10.579
I was like, no.
00:28:10.579 --> 00:28:10.910
Really?
00:28:10.910 --> 00:28:11.630
No.
00:28:11.961 --> 00:28:12.471
anyone else?
00:28:12.471 --> 00:28:13.431
Like the butts of the bread.
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I really liked you.
00:28:14.711 --> 00:28:15.371
Like, okay.
00:28:15.371 --> 00:28:17.740
Well anyway, anyways about the bread butts.
00:28:18.010 --> 00:28:18.790
I'll save you a butt.
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save you.
00:28:19.590 --> 00:28:20.010
You want a butt?
00:28:20.010 --> 00:28:20.580
I'll save you a butt.
00:28:21.080 --> 00:28:22.280
I don't know why that was so hard.
00:28:22.280 --> 00:28:23.030
It was so funny.
00:28:23.030 --> 00:28:26.601
But that was the dynamic, like the whole retreat until the last day.
00:28:26.780 --> 00:28:37.760
And then the last day everybody left and then well like it was right before everyone left, like we started packing up and everything and then I basically, we like freaky Friday back into our bodies again and I was like,
00:28:37.865 --> 00:28:42.950
She was sitting there on her laptop like, okay, I'm doing this paperwork and this and this and this, and I was like,
00:28:43.250 --> 00:28:43.805
you're like,
00:28:43.834 --> 00:28:44.163
boring.
00:28:44.648 --> 00:28:46.114
It's like, that sounds boring.
00:28:46.474 --> 00:28:46.714
I'm
00:28:46.983 --> 00:28:47.913
She's like, can you get
00:28:48.065 --> 00:28:48.125
Wow.
00:28:48.154 --> 00:28:48.815
Okay.
00:28:48.933 --> 00:28:50.644
you get me this receipt and this and that?
00:28:50.644 --> 00:28:52.683
I was like, do you need it now or like,
00:28:52.730 --> 00:28:53.690
pull the file for me?
00:28:54.034 --> 00:28:54.483
yes.
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.539
was and she was like and like all that was like that.
00:28:57.539 --> 00:28:59.220
We were just like back It was crazy.
00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:00.450
That is so weird.
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:01.500
I love that.
00:29:01.505 --> 00:29:02.670
It was super crazy.
00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:04.170
It was super, super funny.
00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:05.400
We literally freaky Friday.
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:05.519
We so
00:29:05.939 --> 00:29:09.558
But to be fair, to be fair, I know that's where my talent lies.
00:29:09.588 --> 00:29:14.419
Like my talent is not in like the prep, my talent is the like directing and here we go.
00:29:14.449 --> 00:29:15.078
This is it.
00:29:15.170 --> 00:29:15.529
Yeah.
00:29:15.709 --> 00:29:17.659
So I wasn't shocked.
00:29:17.659 --> 00:29:18.919
That's, that's what I was doing.
00:29:18.919 --> 00:29:22.368
I was a little shocked that Ash regressed to a 10-year-old, but
00:29:22.525 --> 00:29:23.930
became a total 10-year-old.
00:29:24.430 --> 00:29:25.029
I like, love that.
00:29:25.029 --> 00:29:25.869
Keep things lively.
00:29:25.869 --> 00:29:31.210
I, I'm actually super glad to hear that because I was a little bit like Ash is not gonna get any writing done, Mr.
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:32.109
Queen, like,
00:29:32.169 --> 00:29:32.919
Oh yeah, no,
00:29:33.009 --> 00:29:33.400
does.
00:29:33.848 --> 00:29:35.528
that was part of my goal.
00:29:35.588 --> 00:29:36.429
I was like,
00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:37.029
I was
00:29:37.088 --> 00:29:38.199
that was part of my goal.
00:29:38.199 --> 00:29:39.669
I told her I would, yeah.
00:29:39.669 --> 00:29:43.179
I told her I would duct tape or with nuclear grade duct tape to a chair
00:29:43.545 --> 00:29:43.835
very
00:29:43.989 --> 00:29:46.209
and I have, I have a lot of that.
00:29:46.209 --> 00:29:46.598
So.
00:29:46.943 --> 00:29:47.364
It's,
00:29:47.605 --> 00:29:49.134
So don't mess with me.
00:29:49.434 --> 00:29:52.825
I have 96 rolls of nuclear grade duct tape.
00:29:53.065 --> 00:29:55.795
Not like other girls, I have 96 rolls of duct tape.
00:29:56.165 --> 00:29:59.766
I have 40 chickens and 96 rolls of nuclear grade duct tape.
00:29:59.936 --> 00:30:01.376
Oh my goodness.
00:30:01.876 --> 00:30:02.501
that was 50.
00:30:02.501 --> 00:30:03.376
Had a starter pack.
00:30:03.876 --> 00:30:04.686
A starter pack.
00:30:05.186 --> 00:30:05.366
Okay.
00:30:05.366 --> 00:30:06.747
That was better than a bird story.
00:30:06.747 --> 00:30:07.767
I'm glad that you brought that up.
00:30:07.767 --> 00:30:11.576
So if you guys wanna enjoy that dynamic in person, you should apply for the fall retreat.
00:30:12.076 --> 00:30:12.436
Yeah.
00:30:12.856 --> 00:30:13.396
I don't worry.
00:30:13.396 --> 00:30:13.727
I won't.
00:30:13.727 --> 00:30:14.146
Whatever.
00:30:14.146 --> 00:30:15.317
You just ash.
00:30:15.406 --> 00:30:15.646
So
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Yeah, she doesn't, it's only
00:30:17.237 --> 00:30:18.737
I'm nice to everyone else.
00:30:18.798 --> 00:30:19.097
worry.
00:30:19.577 --> 00:30:24.377
She was and fully nobody knew your actual name anywhere because I forgot to write your name on anything.
00:30:24.377 --> 00:30:25.157
I'll put Gino on
00:30:25.487 --> 00:30:28.846
I didn't know how to introduce myself to be fair.
00:30:29.346 --> 00:30:30.666
Like people were walking in the door.
00:30:30.666 --> 00:30:32.676
I was like, hi, this is Ash.
00:30:33.176 --> 00:30:40.767
Just wouldn't say my name because I thought, I assumed most of the people were from the pod, but it turned out most of the people weren't from the pod.
00:30:40.916 --> 00:30:42.656
So I was like, do they know me as Gino?
00:30:42.656 --> 00:30:44.156
Do they know me as Marissa do?
00:30:44.156 --> 00:30:45.836
I was like, I don't know what to say.
00:30:46.017 --> 00:30:47.606
So they just, I was just there.
00:30:48.106 --> 00:30:48.436
Gino.
00:30:48.465 --> 00:30:48.945
just there.
00:30:48.946 --> 00:30:50.086
funny'cause like by
00:30:50.205 --> 00:30:50.476
But
00:30:50.507 --> 00:30:54.007
end of day two, everyone was like, Gino, where's Gino?
00:30:54.007 --> 00:30:55.416
So, so Gino.
00:30:55.596 --> 00:30:57.457
And I was like, I'm so happy.
00:30:57.457 --> 00:30:57.666
Right.
00:30:58.166 --> 00:30:58.916
I did that.
00:30:59.416 --> 00:31:05.896
like how your son and like at the Maddie's children also only know me as Spoons.
00:31:05.896 --> 00:31:06.287
Yes.
00:31:06.287 --> 00:31:07.457
Like that is my name.
00:31:07.457 --> 00:31:07.876
So I was
00:31:07.905 --> 00:31:08.566
I was
00:31:08.866 --> 00:31:10.096
Spoon, auntie is coming over.
00:31:10.096 --> 00:31:11.172
And he was like, S Spoo.
00:31:11.672 --> 00:31:12.031
And I was like,
00:31:12.165 --> 00:31:12.385
Aw.
00:31:12.885 --> 00:31:15.046
Like Grayson has no idea what my name is.
00:31:15.046 --> 00:31:15.316
No.
00:31:15.316 --> 00:31:16.215
You know, it's fine.
00:31:16.336 --> 00:31:16.840
I love it like that.
00:31:16.840 --> 00:31:17.986
It should, that's the way it should be.
00:31:18.486 --> 00:31:23.556
I was talking to the girls about the podcast'cause I'm recording in Ridley's room right now.
00:31:24.115 --> 00:31:37.715
And uh, so they were asking all these questions and I was like, yeah, it's my friend Whiskey and my friend Spoons, but I was like, their real names and they were like, I was like, I actually don't know why her name is Spoons, so.
00:31:38.215 --> 00:31:41.326
Our Newsies, what was, what's your Newsies name?
00:31:41.326 --> 00:31:43.941
And it Yeah, mine was, we went to or improv musical.
00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:44.540
Yeah.
00:31:44.674 --> 00:31:45.335
Okay.
00:31:45.695 --> 00:31:47.915
And yeah, your nurse's name was Spoons Palermo.
00:31:47.915 --> 00:31:48.965
And it was just really good.
00:31:48.965 --> 00:31:49.715
It was really funny.
00:31:49.715 --> 00:31:51.125
We were like, well, we're keeping that.
00:31:51.125 --> 00:31:54.875
And mine was like something stupid like Colin or something, and I was like, it wasn't as good.
00:31:54.875 --> 00:31:55.836
That's not a good name.
00:31:55.895 --> 00:31:58.115
And then you were like, well, how about wheezy because asthma.
00:31:58.615 --> 00:31:59.461
like, it's genius.
00:31:59.961 --> 00:32:02.980
Listen, you're a little bit handicapped.
00:32:02.980 --> 00:32:04.211
How about we name it after that?
00:32:04.586 --> 00:32:05.922
You know how you have a disability.
00:32:06.422 --> 00:32:08.932
I think we should make that your whole identity illness.
00:32:08.932 --> 00:32:10.001
How about this?
00:32:10.001 --> 00:32:10.902
I love it.
00:32:11.020 --> 00:32:11.740
about the ad?
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:18.510
Also I run, I, I don't know, that's if it's not ironic, but when they were talking about it, they were like, where is your podcast?
00:32:18.510 --> 00:32:19.711
Like, where can I listen to it?
00:32:19.711 --> 00:32:26.101
And so I told them, and then Ridley was I guess looking through Spotify and she's like, wait, I already listened to this.
00:32:26.601 --> 00:32:28.371
She already listens to it.
00:32:28.371 --> 00:32:31.550
She listened to the Lightning Thief episode because
00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:32.060
Yes,
00:32:32.164 --> 00:32:32.525
so
00:32:32.570 --> 00:32:33.381
weird.
00:32:33.441 --> 00:32:34.161
That's hilarious.
00:32:34.191 --> 00:32:34.401
That's
00:32:34.744 --> 00:32:35.884
I know I was like, woo.
00:32:36.050 --> 00:32:40.780
Oh, I saw that our lots of people downloaded the Hunger Games episode last week.
00:32:40.780 --> 00:32:41.651
That's not surprising.
00:32:41.651 --> 00:32:43.961
I think people are Hunger Games ready right now.
00:32:43.990 --> 00:32:44.171
Yeah, I
00:32:44.394 --> 00:32:45.865
Hunger Games hungry?
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:47.711
they are, they're hungry for it.
00:32:48.211 --> 00:32:50.750
Well, should we talk about this week's might as well now that
00:32:50.795 --> 00:32:52.355
No, I think more birds.
00:32:52.535 --> 00:32:53.404
I think More birds.
00:32:53.601 --> 00:32:53.915
More birds.
00:32:54.026 --> 00:32:54.921
More birds.
00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:58.221
I, I just have to say quickly,'cause this was my sad bird story.
00:32:58.221 --> 00:33:00.290
I'm gonna bring it back to a sad bird story and then can Oh, agree.
00:33:00.790 --> 00:33:00.851
no.
00:33:00.881 --> 00:33:02.651
Where's the end of a Happy Bird story?
00:33:03.151 --> 00:33:03.451
fine.
00:33:03.451 --> 00:33:04.891
I'll tell you two very quick ones.
00:33:05.010 --> 00:33:08.250
One is, I actually did have a baby bird die in my hands, and it was really, oh
00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:08.839
Oh,
00:33:08.881 --> 00:33:11.730
It was one of my sick Guinea chicks, which, I mean, they all
00:33:12.045 --> 00:33:12.795
oh, yeah.
00:33:12.931 --> 00:33:17.971
but it was very sad because I tried to nurse her back to life for like hours and before she finally just died in my hands.
00:33:17.976 --> 00:33:17.986
Mm-hmm.
00:33:18.066 --> 00:33:19.590
And it was very, very sad.
00:33:19.951 --> 00:33:24.090
And my other one where I felt like a Disney princess is that repeatedly in the last year.
00:33:24.590 --> 00:33:26.601
doves keep getting stuck in the chicken coop.
00:33:26.931 --> 00:33:34.191
And so I've had to go in there and like, I don't know how they're getting, like getting under like a loose piece of wire to get at the grain and then they're stuck and they can't get out.
00:33:34.401 --> 00:33:37.810
So they get to like reach and be like, hello, my little beauty, release
00:33:38.035 --> 00:33:38.605
away.
00:33:38.785 --> 00:33:39.565
Fly away.
00:33:40.065 --> 00:33:40.694
and it's like a little
00:33:40.769 --> 00:33:41.068
Did,
00:33:41.568 --> 00:33:42.348
It's amazing.
00:33:42.848 --> 00:33:44.499
did you watch the Hunchback of Notre Dame?
00:33:44.949 --> 00:33:46.118
The Disney movie?
00:33:46.164 --> 00:33:46.255
Yes.
00:33:46.755 --> 00:33:48.884
The, the old gargoyle when she's like, fly.
00:33:49.384 --> 00:33:50.704
So the, all the doves ever.
00:33:51.204 --> 00:33:51.625
Yeah.
00:33:52.015 --> 00:33:52.644
That was Diana.
00:33:52.644 --> 00:33:52.914
That's you.
00:33:52.914 --> 00:33:55.984
Whenever you, this probably you like No, I, no.
00:33:55.984 --> 00:33:57.345
You like the little garco?
00:33:57.845 --> 00:33:59.184
Oh my gosh, no.
00:33:59.494 --> 00:33:59.785
Okay.
00:34:00.029 --> 00:34:00.299
Okay.
00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:02.670
So with that, yes, we can get into today's book now.
00:34:02.670 --> 00:34:04.319
This was a geno wreck, I believe.
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:04.440
Yeah.
00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:08.480
Yes, because we did spoons is, Cinderella.
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.489
So this was my Cinderella.
00:34:10.989 --> 00:34:14.159
Yeah, we're doing all Cinderellas lately.
00:34:14.659 --> 00:34:15.710
we'll do the one that I wrote.
00:34:16.210 --> 00:34:17.139
Yay.
00:34:17.139 --> 00:34:18.099
It not done yet.
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:25.780
So this is just Ella by Margaret Peterson, Haddix my very beat up copy because it was my favorite.
00:34:26.139 --> 00:34:34.679
And also real quick before we actually get into the book, but um, our drink for this week, spoons came up with, so we're reading just Ella.
00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:42.010
So this is just Gino and we have just spoons and just whis or wheezy over there.
00:34:42.309 --> 00:34:43.300
We all just,
00:34:43.315 --> 00:34:43.615
Well,
00:34:43.869 --> 00:34:44.199
I know
00:34:44.275 --> 00:34:44.635
yeah,
00:34:45.135 --> 00:34:46.215
and just whiskey there.
00:34:46.231 --> 00:34:47.402
is, I drink it already.
00:34:47.492 --> 00:34:48.922
An empty glass.
00:34:49.172 --> 00:34:52.172
So we all just made our own drinks.
00:34:52.351 --> 00:34:53.762
That's a lot of sparkle in there.
00:34:53.791 --> 00:34:54.331
Yes.
00:34:54.331 --> 00:34:56.101
It's just whatever, uh, we want.
00:34:56.601 --> 00:34:57.141
I love it.
00:34:57.141 --> 00:35:00.922
Just insert whatever you have in your fridge or liquor cabinet.
00:35:00.922 --> 00:35:04.012
I mean, that looks like multiple, just your name here way too much.
00:35:04.282 --> 00:35:05.271
You guys can probably
00:35:05.286 --> 00:35:05.556
Yes.
00:35:05.646 --> 00:35:05.856
Oh.
00:35:05.860 --> 00:35:06.516
Oh my gosh.
00:35:06.516 --> 00:35:07.056
Yeah.
00:35:07.342 --> 00:35:07.731
kind
00:35:07.746 --> 00:35:09.606
That looks like a lava lamp.
00:35:10.106 --> 00:35:10.255
It
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:11.710
That looks like a lava lamp.
00:35:12.210 --> 00:35:17.789
I first, at first I just put a little sprinkle of luster dust in and it wasn't enough and then I spilled some in.
00:35:18.289 --> 00:35:19.929
That was more than enough.
00:35:19.929 --> 00:35:19.931
Even enough.
00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:20.949
Anyways.
00:35:21.070 --> 00:35:22.920
Yes, so that's the
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Our author,
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And our author is Margaret Peterson Haddix.
00:35:29.369 --> 00:35:30.000
Yes.
00:35:30.016 --> 00:35:31.365
Do you like the way that I said old Good Maggie?
00:35:31.865 --> 00:35:32.556
she's so cute.
00:35:32.556 --> 00:35:33.036
Look at her.
00:35:33.335 --> 00:35:34.565
She kinda looks like a snow white.
00:35:34.626 --> 00:35:36.215
She's got that blob going.
00:35:36.215 --> 00:35:36.576
She does.
00:35:36.576 --> 00:35:38.106
She's got a blo in this picture.
00:35:38.695 --> 00:35:38.996
Oh
00:35:39.065 --> 00:35:39.335
She
00:35:39.351 --> 00:35:39.862
we usually do
00:35:39.862 --> 00:35:40.101
was born.
00:35:40.418 --> 00:35:42.458
first or do we do the author bio first?
00:35:42.681 --> 00:35:42.922
Oh.
00:35:42.938 --> 00:35:43.867
do author first.
00:35:44.288 --> 00:35:44.588
Okay.
00:35:44.708 --> 00:35:45.188
Go for it.
00:35:45.688 --> 00:35:46.858
I don't know what I'm talking about.
00:35:47.358 --> 00:35:48.077
Uh, okay.
00:35:48.608 --> 00:35:56.777
She, um, I'm actually just gonna talk about her from what I know is because I read so many of her books when I was a kid.
00:35:57.137 --> 00:36:07.237
Like I started seeking her out actively, she wrote this series, it's called like the Shadow Children Series, and it was all about the kids, like the one child rule in China.
00:36:07.297 --> 00:36:10.418
And, but it was like a dystopian version of that.
00:36:10.418 --> 00:36:21.588
So it would be like if a kid had, or if a parent had more than one kid, then it was like the kid that wasn't the one child was like on the run from being murdered and all this sort of stuff.
00:36:21.588 --> 00:36:24.467
And it was like six or seven books in that series.
00:36:24.467 --> 00:36:25.518
I love that series.
00:36:25.568 --> 00:36:26.318
Just Ella.
00:36:26.818 --> 00:36:29.217
Yeah, she's wrote a ton of books.
00:36:29.538 --> 00:36:32.748
She actually does a ton of community work too.
00:36:33.068 --> 00:36:39.777
She, I think she grew up in, I think she's from, I might be wrong, uh, Columbus, Ohio.
00:36:40.277 --> 00:36:52.297
But she does all sorts of, she goes, she goes to schools all the time, like middle schools and just like, talks about her books and answers kids' questions about being an author and stuff, like constantly.
00:36:52.597 --> 00:36:56.407
Um, I see, like I follow her on a couple socials and stuff, so,
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:58.878
has 40 books for children and teenagers,
00:36:59.378 --> 00:37:00.217
yeah, she's got a,
00:37:00.429 --> 00:37:01.688
according to the Wikipedia.
00:37:02.188 --> 00:37:03.688
she's got a big collection.
00:37:03.809 --> 00:37:08.068
Um, but I don't know, as a kid I loved all her books so that I read through.
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.440
I think I remember the Shadow Children books.
00:37:10.889 --> 00:37:23.730
Like I think I might have read the first one or something because I was just telling Wheezy before we started recording, I was like, yeah, Margaret Peterson had, it's like she's such a like recognizable name to me that I was like, oh, I'm sure I've read like a lot of her books.
00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:26.750
And then I was looking through and I was like, I don't think I've read any of these.
00:37:26.750 --> 00:37:29.690
I think I just was like very aware of her as like an author.
00:37:29.690 --> 00:37:29.960
Yeah.
00:37:30.460 --> 00:37:32.530
But I might have read one or two of those,
00:37:33.030 --> 00:37:37.769
Like I said, she does a lot and she like answers all sorts of kids fan mail all the time.
00:37:37.769 --> 00:37:38.610
Like writes them back.
00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:40.619
If you write her, she'll like write you back.
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.940
At least as a kid, I don't know about as adults, but
00:37:43.050 --> 00:37:43.260
sense.
00:37:43.260 --> 00:37:47.460
There's a picture of her literally speaking at what looks like an elementary school on her
00:37:47.653 --> 00:37:48.224
yeah.
00:37:48.724 --> 00:37:49.353
Cute.
00:37:49.458 --> 00:37:51.438
she she's very involved.
00:37:51.467 --> 00:37:52.818
She's very involved.
00:37:53.318 --> 00:37:54.367
So I think she's,
00:37:54.744 --> 00:37:55.014
sign is?
00:37:55.514 --> 00:37:58.744
I, I know when her birthday is, but I'm trying.
00:37:59.210 --> 00:37:59.751
That's not it.
00:38:00.251 --> 00:38:00.610
Okay.
00:38:01.110 --> 00:38:01.501
Is it what
00:38:02.001 --> 00:38:02.690
Pisces?
00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:03.521
no.
00:38:04.021 --> 00:38:04.260
No.
00:38:04.621 --> 00:38:04.891
Okay.
00:38:04.891 --> 00:38:05.251
I don't know.
00:38:05.751 --> 00:38:06.800
It's April.
00:38:07.021 --> 00:38:07.242
Oh,
00:38:07.670 --> 00:38:08.121
Oh, okay.
00:38:08.121 --> 00:38:08.900
Aries.
00:38:09.157 --> 00:38:09.487
Yeah.
00:38:09.547 --> 00:38:09.996
Aries.
00:38:09.996 --> 00:38:10.717
Okay.
00:38:10.717 --> 00:38:11.407
She's an early April.
00:38:11.407 --> 00:38:12.036
One of the sisters.
00:38:12.097 --> 00:38:12.487
I know.
00:38:12.487 --> 00:38:18.347
One of my Aries uh, kin, here's a fun fact not to take over your part of the author section, but
00:38:18.510 --> 00:38:18.931
Take it.
00:38:18.947 --> 00:38:33.436
I came across this in her Wikipedia entry and it reminds it, this, it makes so much sense after reading just Ella that some of her favorite books growing up apparently included Harriet De Spy and of Green Gables Little Women, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm and The Little Princess.
00:38:33.467 --> 00:38:33.706
Okay.
00:38:33.706 --> 00:38:34.126
Slay.
00:38:34.186 --> 00:38:34.577
That makes
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.630
Yes, it does.
00:38:37.130 --> 00:38:38.030
It really does.
00:38:38.530 --> 00:38:38.860
Let's see.
00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:51.940
And she worked on a school newspaper, and this is from Wikipedia, so who knows if it's a hundred percent correct or not, but it says that Haddock chose to pursue fiction writing after her husband became a news reporter and she did not wanna be his employee.
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:52.951
I think that's a
00:38:53.175 --> 00:38:54.824
That sounds accurate.
00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:55.681
Yeah.
00:38:55.860 --> 00:38:55.920
I'll
00:38:56.114 --> 00:38:57.135
I would buy that.
00:38:57.179 --> 00:38:57.469
Yeah.
00:38:57.969 --> 00:38:58.389
Yeah.
00:38:58.889 --> 00:39:04.400
That's a really funny, and it seems she has two children Terrance of two grandchildren, Meredith and Connor.
00:39:04.900 --> 00:39:07.380
Aw, those sound like, like the names of her children.
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:08.300
Mm-hmm.
00:39:08.445 --> 00:39:09.210
those are their names of her children.
00:39:09.331 --> 00:39:10.695
I don't believe she named her children
00:39:10.815 --> 00:39:11.954
I believe these things.
00:39:12.454 --> 00:39:13.534
I believe these things.
00:39:14.034 --> 00:39:15.085
Good for Margaret.
00:39:15.295 --> 00:39:15.744
Yeah.
00:39:15.835 --> 00:39:17.519
Anything else you wanna say about Aino?
00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:19.204
Uh, nope, that's all I got.
00:39:19.476 --> 00:39:19.766
Okay.
00:39:20.150 --> 00:39:21.110
Slay solid.
00:39:21.260 --> 00:39:21.920
Yay.
00:39:22.001 --> 00:39:23.670
Do people still stay slay or do you just me.
00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:26.541
Don't ever, no one ever repeat anything I say.
00:39:26.601 --> 00:39:26.871
'cause I'm.
00:39:27.371 --> 00:39:27.731
Repeat
00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:29.409
like, are you so cool or No?
00:39:29.909 --> 00:39:30.360
Oh no.
00:39:30.690 --> 00:39:32.900
I lay like still I don't think I've ever been called.
00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:33.230
Said
00:39:33.403 --> 00:39:34.014
That is true.
00:39:34.429 --> 00:39:35.000
slay,
00:39:35.298 --> 00:39:36.469
repeats everything you say.
00:39:36.969 --> 00:39:42.039
So I know, but I'm telling you, it's like I already like six months behind.
00:39:42.188 --> 00:39:44.398
So the time you start singing it, you're like a year.
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.389
That's okay.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.489
Honestly, a year is nothing for me.
00:39:47.489 --> 00:39:48.778
That's actually really good.
00:39:49.278 --> 00:39:49.728
That's
00:39:49.742 --> 00:39:51.077
She is like groovy y.
00:39:51.577 --> 00:39:51.998
Groovy.
00:39:52.498 --> 00:39:53.938
I was saying oh, what is it?
00:39:54.438 --> 00:39:54.918
What is it?
00:39:55.038 --> 00:39:57.708
It's not gag me, but it's something from like
00:39:57.786 --> 00:39:58.367
Oh my gosh.
00:39:58.637 --> 00:40:03.228
I did start saying recently and I was like, why do I feel like that's not what people say anymore?
00:40:03.728 --> 00:40:04.148
I used to say
00:40:04.192 --> 00:40:05.452
We should bring it all back.
00:40:05.952 --> 00:40:07.032
I think we should bring it all back.
00:40:07.032 --> 00:40:07.891
I'll bring it
00:40:08.391 --> 00:40:09.141
That's hot.
00:40:09.641 --> 00:40:10.152
That's odd.
00:40:10.652 --> 00:40:13.952
Anyways so first impressions of this book.
00:40:14.452 --> 00:40:15.742
First impressions.
00:40:15.742 --> 00:40:17.391
I like the cover.
00:40:17.391 --> 00:40:22.492
And the cover I had was the one you have Marissa it Interesting.
00:40:22.992 --> 00:40:25.782
It's like, is it the one where she's kind of torn?
00:40:26.282 --> 00:40:26.481
Yeah.
00:40:26.981 --> 00:40:30.121
Yeah, it's like half Ella, half Princess.
00:40:30.452 --> 00:40:31.652
Oh, look at that.
00:40:31.652 --> 00:40:31.802
Yeah.
00:40:31.862 --> 00:40:32.851
That's interesting.
00:40:32.851 --> 00:40:32.911
Yeah.
00:40:32.911 --> 00:40:37.652
But, but cover reminds me of like a Ga Gayle, Carson Levine book a little bit.
00:40:37.981 --> 00:40:40.351
Oh, I had the, the newer one.
00:40:40.411 --> 00:40:49.641
The, um, the one that looks like, not the super new one that has like a real person's face on it, but like the one that's like a silhouette like a princess making up a staircase.
00:40:49.672 --> 00:40:50.722
Yeah, I like that too.
00:40:50.842 --> 00:40:51.141
Yeah.
00:40:51.762 --> 00:40:55.461
Well I was super into like, princess books when I was, I.
00:40:55.822 --> 00:40:57.922
A kid, so I was like, I'm all in.
00:40:57.952 --> 00:41:00.831
You know, my first impression was this, this'll be good.
00:41:01.331 --> 00:41:04.242
definitely felt like this was like a definitely a you and Gino book.
00:41:04.692 --> 00:41:06.702
I was not super into princess books ever.
00:41:07.202 --> 00:41:08.402
So mermaid books sure.
00:41:08.402 --> 00:41:09.572
Count me in princess books.
00:41:09.572 --> 00:41:10.411
Never really was.
00:41:10.411 --> 00:41:12.862
So I was like, we'll see about this.
00:41:12.862 --> 00:41:15.561
I just read one of these and now I'm reading another one.
00:41:15.567 --> 00:41:17.902
You read one I didn't even like, and now I gotta read another one.
00:41:17.902 --> 00:41:33.322
I just, like, I had, it has like a lot of middle grade vibes, even though she's not a middle grader, but its reads like a middle grade book because I think it, it kind of, I have a lot of thoughts about, audience and tone and content for
00:41:33.516 --> 00:41:35.076
a young adult book.
00:41:35.576 --> 00:41:36.206
What?
00:41:36.675 --> 00:41:37.545
I, well, that's
00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:43.699
it got a, it got a, it got an award Best, an Allah best book for young adults.
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:44.389
Award
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.780
It's, it was very much straddling a line for me
00:41:47.900 --> 00:41:49.940
ages 11 to 14.
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:51.534
I was like, interested.
00:41:51.534 --> 00:41:52.269
That's middle grade.
00:41:52.269 --> 00:41:53.730
To me, 11 to
00:41:53.759 --> 00:41:54.088
Yeah.
00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:55.139
feels like middle grade.
00:41:55.228 --> 00:41:55.559
Yeah.
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.599
I did not think it was a young adult book.
00:41:57.648 --> 00:41:59.239
I fully was like, this is
00:41:59.719 --> 00:41:59.985
I could see
00:42:00.485 --> 00:42:01.175
middle grade,
00:42:01.675 --> 00:42:03.235
but for me it leans more middle grade.
00:42:03.735 --> 00:42:04.275
I also,
00:42:04.333 --> 00:42:04.574
you know?
00:42:04.605 --> 00:42:06.619
were right with middle grade things where credit.
00:42:06.885 --> 00:42:07.425
That's crazy.
00:42:07.635 --> 00:42:11.025
My first impression was another princess book.
00:42:11.025 --> 00:42:12.735
It's a new take on it.
00:42:12.735 --> 00:42:16.394
It's probably gonna be very girl power because it's just Ella.
00:42:16.425 --> 00:42:19.934
Also, it came out in like 1999, which is like girl power.
00:42:19.965 --> 00:42:21.045
Height of girl power.
00:42:21.045 --> 00:42:21.405
Yes.
00:42:21.793 --> 00:42:22.184
Yeah.
00:42:22.605 --> 00:42:24.974
I was like, this is girl power milk with like big flowers and stuff.
00:42:25.184 --> 00:42:26.175
Yeah, exactly.
00:42:26.675 --> 00:42:27.574
Exactly.
00:42:27.965 --> 00:42:28.445
Gag me.
00:42:28.445 --> 00:42:28.894
Am I right?
00:42:29.224 --> 00:42:29.704
Gag me.
00:42:29.704 --> 00:42:30.125
Just kidding.
00:42:30.625 --> 00:42:32.724
Anyways, that was mostly my impression of it.
00:42:33.025 --> 00:42:34.135
I definitely read this.
00:42:34.635 --> 00:42:38.519
No, Because I read it as very young.
00:42:38.650 --> 00:42:44.769
And then I read it again, and then I can remember taking it off my bookshelf and like opening a random page and reading it.
00:42:45.269 --> 00:42:46.650
Like, and just keep reading it.
00:42:46.650 --> 00:42:47.519
And so I started again.
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.949
And I don't reread, I don't reread books often.
00:42:50.369 --> 00:42:51.000
Like
00:42:51.460 --> 00:42:51.751
Yeah.
00:42:52.110 --> 00:42:53.489
Harry Potter about once a year.
00:42:53.969 --> 00:42:59.340
And this year I've been rereading more books than I've ever in my life probably.
00:42:59.550 --> 00:43:03.329
But the fact that I reread this one so much, I was like, oh, I'm, I really like that book.
00:43:03.329 --> 00:43:07.579
It was like, like my favorite book as a child.
00:43:07.900 --> 00:43:11.789
I have interesting opinions rereading it now, but
00:43:12.161 --> 00:43:12.740
Oh, okay.
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:13.769
we'll get into that.
00:43:14.269 --> 00:43:15.199
that's always fun.
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:15.829
I love it.
00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:16.880
All right, cool.
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:17.059
Well.
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:18.579
we get into the summary?
00:43:18.909 --> 00:43:19.090
Yes.
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:19.960
Solid.
00:43:20.003 --> 00:43:20.393
Shout
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.780
gonna take the lead'cause I read this a month and a half ago.
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.449
I've lived, I feel like I've lived four, 400 years since
00:43:27.643 --> 00:43:29.563
400 bird Lives.
00:43:30.063 --> 00:43:30.994
Our lives later.
00:43:31.474 --> 00:43:33.514
I don't remember what this book was about.
00:43:33.634 --> 00:43:34.474
Who knows?
00:43:34.974 --> 00:43:36.353
I So it's very fresh for me.
00:43:36.853 --> 00:43:39.583
well I'm in the middle of this, it was like two weeks ago.
00:43:39.833 --> 00:43:43.003
So it's about Ella, who is Ci Ella.
00:43:43.503 --> 00:43:51.152
So, but it starts after the story of Cinderella, so like after the ball and all that and everything.
00:43:51.152 --> 00:43:54.813
And she is, they came and got her with the slippers
00:43:54.829 --> 00:43:55.108
of a.
00:43:55.112 --> 00:44:00.182
and she's at the palace now and she's like, oh my gosh, this is crazy.
00:44:00.182 --> 00:44:04.143
I was just thrown to the palace and all this stuff happened so quick.
00:44:04.143 --> 00:44:06.753
I don't know what's going on, but that prince, he's cute.
00:44:07.253 --> 00:44:07.702
Ugh.
00:44:07.822 --> 00:44:10.342
Unfortunately, it's so, I was so mad.
00:44:10.342 --> 00:44:12.443
I was like, he sounds really hot.
00:44:12.623 --> 00:44:13.972
And I was like, God dang it.
00:44:13.972 --> 00:44:15.358
I know it's not gonna be anything.
00:44:15.438 --> 00:44:17.422
I was, this is a spoons character.
00:44:17.422 --> 00:44:18.202
This is a spoon.
00:44:18.202 --> 00:44:19.463
Well, not when you get to know him.
00:44:19.463 --> 00:44:22.583
No, I know, but it was, I was like, this is probably disappointing for her.
00:44:22.672 --> 00:44:23.663
I'm so suey.
00:44:23.663 --> 00:44:25.972
I wouldn't say no to the handsome blonde prince.
00:44:25.972 --> 00:44:27.322
Like, okay, like whatever.
00:44:27.322 --> 00:44:27.532
You know?
00:44:27.532 --> 00:44:28.432
It's disappointing for her.
00:44:28.932 --> 00:44:30.702
I knew it was gonna be disappointing for you.
00:44:30.702 --> 00:44:31.963
I was like, I feel bad for her.
00:44:32.463 --> 00:44:35.807
It was disappointing for me too, and I already knew that it, that was what happened.
00:44:36.307 --> 00:44:37.237
It's like, dang.
00:44:37.434 --> 00:44:38.784
went in full of hatred.
00:44:38.963 --> 00:44:41.123
I was just like, I know I'm gonna hate him.
00:44:41.454 --> 00:44:42.954
And so I just went and I was like, I hate him.
00:44:42.954 --> 00:44:43.583
Immediately.
00:44:43.733 --> 00:44:45.384
I was really like, he's tall, blonde, and perfect.
00:44:45.384 --> 00:44:46.403
I was like, hate him even more.
00:44:46.673 --> 00:44:47.393
Gag me.
00:44:47.753 --> 00:44:48.204
Gag me.
00:44:48.563 --> 00:44:55.853
I was hoping he'd come around, like maybe he'd have some kind of like, I did have a few moments where I was like, he feels like out and out from the beginning.
00:44:55.853 --> 00:44:56.603
A total tool.
00:44:56.603 --> 00:44:56.664
Yeah.
00:44:56.724 --> 00:44:58.434
So I was like, maybe there's gonna be a twist.
00:44:58.434 --> 00:45:01.014
There wasn't, or like, yeah, I don't know.
00:45:01.014 --> 00:45:02.994
Like maybe I'm so disappointed.
00:45:02.994 --> 00:45:04.614
Maybe he'll have some sort of character growth.
00:45:04.628 --> 00:45:05.273
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:05.454 --> 00:45:07.074
No, he has no, he's a straight line.
00:45:07.074 --> 00:45:07.853
There's no arc.
00:45:07.884 --> 00:45:09.594
He's like, I feel trapped in my life too.
00:45:09.594 --> 00:45:10.914
Let's go be cool together.
00:45:10.914 --> 00:45:11.273
You know?
00:45:11.273 --> 00:45:11.994
Something.
00:45:11.994 --> 00:45:12.414
Something now.
00:45:12.414 --> 00:45:14.333
But now he ended up just getting worse.
00:45:14.364 --> 00:45:15.403
Yeah, pretty much.
00:45:15.403 --> 00:45:16.693
Sorry, spoilers for the prince, but
00:45:17.193 --> 00:45:19.103
So it basically starts
00:45:19.570 --> 00:45:20.260
spoons.
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:21.360
laughing.
00:45:21.630 --> 00:45:23.909
I'm reading to make sure I know what's going on.
00:45:23.909 --> 00:45:25.440
I was like reading the beginning of the chapters.
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:27.579
So excuse me.
00:45:28.059 --> 00:45:32.219
It kind of starts where Ella is like waking up.
00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:39.730
I mean, it doesn't exactly start there, but really quickly that she's waking up in her bedroom and she's cold and no one has made the fire.
00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:42.889
And so she's like, well, I guess I'll make the fire.
00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:51.570
And then later on they're like, when everyone in in the castle's awake, they're like, how come there's a fire in your fireplace?
00:45:51.570 --> 00:45:54.090
But the maid who does it is still asleep.
00:45:54.340 --> 00:45:57.639
She must have sat in and, oh my gosh, I can't believe she did her own fire.
00:45:58.030 --> 00:45:59.170
Whisper, whisper, whisper.
00:45:59.670 --> 00:45:59.960
Yeah.
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.369
And she's like, I don't know what I did wrong.
00:46:02.579 --> 00:46:10.278
And then Madam Beset is, uh, her, her manners watcher, I dunno.
00:46:10.324 --> 00:46:13.684
coach Andrews, coach her queen of Genovia.
00:46:13.833 --> 00:46:15.722
she, she is not at all.
00:46:15.722 --> 00:46:16.503
Julie Andrews.
00:46:17.003 --> 00:46:17.393
Yes.
00:46:17.541 --> 00:46:18.842
Did say that about Julie.
00:46:19.342 --> 00:46:20.447
She's, yeah.
00:46:20.447 --> 00:46:21.556
No, she's really rap.
00:46:21.556 --> 00:46:23.731
She's more like the, uh, the matchmaker in Mulan.
00:46:24.226 --> 00:46:26.027
Oh yeah.
00:46:26.027 --> 00:46:26.331
Here we go.
00:46:26.331 --> 00:46:26.534
There we go.
00:46:26.956 --> 00:46:27.106
You're
00:46:27.510 --> 00:46:29.641
So she is like, don't you,
00:46:29.657 --> 00:46:30.137
her.
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:31.951
you ever make your fire again?
00:46:31.951 --> 00:46:32.820
We don't do that.
00:46:32.940 --> 00:46:33.990
That's what servants are for.
00:46:33.990 --> 00:46:36.451
If they don't have something to do, then they'll be sad.
00:46:36.951 --> 00:46:41.181
And she and hell's like, um, I don't think this lady knows anything about being a servant.
00:46:41.210 --> 00:46:44.210
'cause I was a servant and if I didn't have anything to do, I would not be sad.
00:46:44.661 --> 00:46:44.751
Like,
00:46:44.827 --> 00:46:45.547
Yeah, for
00:46:45.561 --> 00:46:47.001
what is wrong with this lady?
00:46:47.047 --> 00:46:48.367
I also can do it myself.
00:46:48.367 --> 00:46:49.327
Like it's not a big deal.
00:46:49.327 --> 00:46:50.317
I've done it a million times.
00:46:50.317 --> 00:46:52.746
She's just laying there cold instead of just like doing it.
00:46:53.001 --> 00:46:53.960
Just like my name is.
00:46:54.067 --> 00:46:54.606
just do it.
00:46:54.786 --> 00:46:55.387
Just do it.
00:46:55.567 --> 00:46:56.137
Just do it.
00:46:56.197 --> 00:46:56.496
Yeah.
00:46:56.496 --> 00:46:57.606
I love that for her though.
00:46:57.606 --> 00:46:59.077
She is like, I'm just gonna do it.
00:46:59.481 --> 00:46:59.782
Yeah.
00:46:59.811 --> 00:47:04.931
She's like, I literally was sleeping in the senders like one week ago, so I think
00:47:05.005 --> 00:47:05.396
Yeah.
00:47:05.681 --> 00:47:06.467
to, yeah.
00:47:06.472 --> 00:47:06.641
Yeah.
00:47:06.641 --> 00:47:07.902
I think I can handle this myself.
00:47:07.902 --> 00:47:09.072
I think I'll be okay.
00:47:09.481 --> 00:47:23.271
So then she goes to her lessons throughout the day, which are like, how to eat properly and manners and this, and she has this other lesson, which she's not really sure what it is, but it's this old dude that just rambles on and, she,
00:47:23.438 --> 00:47:23.797
oh my
00:47:23.961 --> 00:47:26.032
it's funny'cause later on she's like,
00:47:26.378 --> 00:47:26.858
was.
00:47:26.858 --> 00:47:29.583
Later on she's like, that's what he was trying to teach me.
00:47:30.083 --> 00:47:30.563
I don't know.
00:47:30.563 --> 00:47:31.943
It's a required pre-req.
00:47:32.182 --> 00:47:33.052
I have no idea.
00:47:33.552 --> 00:47:35.143
She's like, uh, just getting outta the way, so
00:47:35.393 --> 00:47:38.862
But this teacher has like a heart attack
00:47:38.922 --> 00:47:39.213
yeah.
00:47:39.282 --> 00:47:39.943
Her lesson.
00:47:40.048 --> 00:47:40.969
like convulsing.
00:47:41.047 --> 00:47:41.168
I,
00:47:41.324 --> 00:47:41.623
was like,
00:47:41.682 --> 00:47:42.222
yeah,
00:47:42.463 --> 00:47:43.003
right now?
00:47:43.393 --> 00:47:44.864
And then I was like, maybe it's poison.
00:47:44.864 --> 00:47:45.943
Maybe there's intrigue.
00:47:46.034 --> 00:47:46.784
No, he's just
00:47:46.963 --> 00:47:47.233
no.
00:47:47.414 --> 00:47:47.623
older.
00:47:47.623 --> 00:47:48.193
Unhealthy.
00:47:48.398 --> 00:47:48.688
Yeah.
00:47:48.688 --> 00:47:48.690
Yeah.
00:47:49.190 --> 00:47:52.280
So she like, runs and gets a maid and is like, go get help.
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:56.840
And then she comes back and she like rips his shirt open to like, help him breathe.
00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:05.960
And then of course Madam Bessette comes in and she is like, oh my gosh, a naked man and you are leaning on his chest and she's like, I was saving his life.
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:07.789
And she's like, it doesn't matter.
00:48:08.289 --> 00:48:12.150
We do not save lives if it ruins Purity propriety.
00:48:12.376 --> 00:48:16.150
Oh my They're all just like, oh, this is so like inconvenient and like,
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:16.458
yes.
00:48:16.570 --> 00:48:18.510
won't talk about the fact that he's dying.
00:48:19.010 --> 00:48:19.369
Yeah.
00:48:19.369 --> 00:48:21.110
It was really weird hanging lady.
00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:23.269
She's like, so is he okay?
00:48:23.269 --> 00:48:24.739
And they're like, what are you talking about?
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.235
Super weird, but it's very rude to ask.
00:48:27.735 --> 00:48:44.335
Well, they're literally at some point, at some point, the ladies in waiting and Madam Bessette and them say something about how like women's, women's job is to like, women aren't supposed to be, I don't remember exactly what they say, like, bad things.
00:48:44.335 --> 00:48:49.644
They're not supposed to know about bad things or feel bad things or like they're just here to like,
00:48:49.931 --> 00:48:51.130
to unpleasantness
00:48:51.139 --> 00:48:51.985
yeah, yeah.
00:48:52.405 --> 00:48:53.875
They're not supposed to be exposed to
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.731
a little bit of like a caricature Like a super proper setting.
00:48:59.791 --> 00:49:00.960
I mean, I don't know.
00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:04.561
It's not like I've ever lived in a palace, but I felt
00:49:04.844 --> 00:49:05.894
speak for yourself.
00:49:06.394 --> 00:49:08.655
It was very extreme even for like, it felt extreme.
00:49:08.659 --> 00:49:12.239
It felt like we're almost like crossing territory in a dystopian with the
00:49:12.449 --> 00:49:13.259
Yes.
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:14.219
that this is.
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:15.269
I agree.
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.340
I was a little, I was a little confused.
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:18.210
It was excessive.
00:49:18.210 --> 00:49:18.690
Yeah.
00:49:18.751 --> 00:49:19.021
Yeah.
00:49:19.521 --> 00:49:20.001
I agree.
00:49:20.001 --> 00:49:20.300
'cause
00:49:20.331 --> 00:49:21.702
I am like, I don't know.
00:49:22.197 --> 00:49:23.967
That's like the middle grade part of it to me.
00:49:24.027 --> 00:49:24.387
Yeah.
00:49:24.836 --> 00:49:28.041
Very like things are exaggerated both for like kind of comedy.
00:49:28.112 --> 00:49:35.052
It's black, everybody's black and white for like, yeah, you're 11 and you're reading a book and you was right who was wrong a little bit.
00:49:35.052 --> 00:49:35.112
Yeah.
00:49:35.612 --> 00:49:39.661
So like in that way in, in several ways it was like, this is very middle grade to me.
00:49:39.811 --> 00:49:42.152
But then in other ways I'm like, this is intense.
00:49:42.152 --> 00:49:51.242
Like the one, like the servant who like forgot to get, uh, get up and make Ella's fire whatever, got like beaten almost to death and like sent out.
00:49:51.242 --> 00:49:52.681
And I was like, oh, okay.
00:49:52.681 --> 00:49:52.802
And
00:49:52.905 --> 00:49:53.565
Yeah.
00:49:53.641 --> 00:49:54.961
a war going on.
00:49:55.052 --> 00:49:55.262
Yeah.
00:49:55.262 --> 00:49:57.061
And also this guy's a rapist.
00:49:57.061 --> 00:49:57.242
And I
00:49:57.346 --> 00:49:58.096
Yeah.
00:49:58.396 --> 00:50:01.396
But like, he raped like 30 women and like
00:50:01.532 --> 00:50:01.742
was
00:50:01.755 --> 00:50:03.195
children like.
00:50:03.456 --> 00:50:04.217
a kids book.
00:50:04.717 --> 00:50:04.916
know.
00:50:05.202 --> 00:50:06.402
It was very weird.
00:50:06.402 --> 00:50:08.442
And then they're like, are you a kin or not bitch?
00:50:08.442 --> 00:50:10.692
And I was like, oh my, what is happening?
00:50:11.052 --> 00:50:21.882
Because the rest of it feels like middle grade and that stuff feels like a really intense white, it was kind of like, it was a weird, um, but, and then also, but his name is still Prince Charming.
00:50:22.061 --> 00:50:23.081
I was like, why?
00:50:23.202 --> 00:50:24.101
That was my biggest
00:50:24.150 --> 00:50:26.036
The whole family is the charming.
00:50:26.382 --> 00:50:26.922
yes.
00:50:26.952 --> 00:50:31.092
And I enjoyed the book, but my one biggest critique was that was dumb.
00:50:31.092 --> 00:50:32.501
They should have given him a new name.
00:50:32.501 --> 00:50:35.831
I was like, the Charmings really we're having a war.
00:50:35.831 --> 00:50:37.001
And they're the charmings.
00:50:37.501 --> 00:50:38.641
I don't think so.
00:50:39.141 --> 00:50:39.621
Come on.
00:50:39.621 --> 00:50:42.981
She was like up all this whim, this more for this like world.
00:50:42.981 --> 00:50:44.902
It felt like she was trying to keep it whimsical.
00:50:44.902 --> 00:50:44.992
Yeah.
00:50:45.052 --> 00:50:46.791
But I'm like, but it's not whimsical, girl.
00:50:46.791 --> 00:50:47.032
I know.
00:50:47.032 --> 00:50:48.831
It wasn't, I'm stressed for Ella's life.
00:50:48.862 --> 00:50:49.282
Okay.
00:50:49.282 --> 00:50:51.141
I don't want him to be Prince Charming.
00:50:51.172 --> 00:50:51.681
I know.
00:50:51.711 --> 00:50:52.581
It's not funny.
00:50:52.702 --> 00:50:53.092
I know.
00:50:53.152 --> 00:50:54.291
Anyway, that was my biggest beef.
00:50:54.472 --> 00:50:55.371
That's totally fair.
00:50:55.612 --> 00:50:57.952
I thought I was gonna save that, and then I just went out and said it.
00:50:58.431 --> 00:50:58.791
Absolutely.
00:50:58.835 --> 00:51:00.456
happens passion.
00:51:00.561 --> 00:51:01.726
I have to get us off my chest
00:51:02.226 --> 00:51:02.496
My
00:51:02.768 --> 00:51:03.998
this.
00:51:04.117 --> 00:51:10.266
Myla, when we were talking about the podcast, she's like, what happens if someone just goes off on like a 45 minute long tangent?
00:51:10.416 --> 00:51:12.007
And I was like, they just do it.
00:51:12.507 --> 00:51:13.436
We just do it.
00:51:13.436 --> 00:51:13.737
Yeah.
00:51:13.795 --> 00:51:15.686
I was like, wait, just let I know.
00:51:15.775 --> 00:51:17.365
I was like, that's mostly what it is.
00:51:17.365 --> 00:51:17.905
Anyway.
00:51:18.237 --> 00:51:20.007
kind of Of our bread and butter actually.
00:51:20.036 --> 00:51:20.427
Yeah.
00:51:20.927 --> 00:51:23.012
If we don't do that, it's a little weirder.
00:51:23.012 --> 00:51:23.172
You know?
00:51:23.242 --> 00:51:23.652
It's a little weird.
00:51:23.896 --> 00:51:24.737
It's weird for us.
00:51:24.737 --> 00:51:25.967
That would be, yeah.
00:51:26.326 --> 00:51:26.626
All right.
00:51:26.626 --> 00:51:28.815
What are your three sentences about the plot?
00:51:29.465 --> 00:51:30.155
Oh my God.
00:51:30.655 --> 00:51:31.346
So,
00:51:31.846 --> 00:51:34.005
yeah, he, he is
00:51:34.231 --> 00:51:34.501
Sorry.
00:51:34.726 --> 00:51:34.996
dead.
00:51:34.996 --> 00:51:35.295
Go ahead,
00:51:35.795 --> 00:51:35.976
No.
00:51:36.054 --> 00:51:36.275
God.
00:51:36.275 --> 00:51:37.686
he's, I was just remembering where we were.
00:51:37.746 --> 00:51:38.226
I was like, where
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:38.510
Oh.
00:51:39.010 --> 00:51:39.309
he's not
00:51:39.324 --> 00:51:40.164
then
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:40.480
going
00:51:40.523 --> 00:51:52.724
it's like cuts to later that night and she gets her visitation with the prince, which is, they get to like sit, they get to sit in a room together with a chaperone and um, do nothing.
00:51:52.744 --> 00:51:52.934
like this.
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:54.539
You look lovely tonight, princess.
00:51:54.539 --> 00:51:56.369
It's actually, we don't have a chaperones.
00:51:56.369 --> 00:51:58.050
This is actually more intimate for us.
00:51:58.494 --> 00:51:58.713
Oh,
00:51:59.213 --> 00:52:00.583
Excuse us, Kendall.
00:52:00.583 --> 00:52:02.168
I told you we'll test that part of like the
00:52:02.668 --> 00:52:06.920
it's a, it's really difficult to chaperone from Italy, I can tell you that.
00:52:07.420 --> 00:52:07.639
So.
00:52:08.139 --> 00:52:08.360
Yep.
00:52:08.860 --> 00:52:09.159
Yeah.
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:10.719
But that was so funny to me.
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.539
They were just sitting there like, she's like, I was like immediately like, oh girl, run.
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.039
This is not so bad.
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.130
It was bad every time he opened his mouth.
00:52:19.130 --> 00:52:20.840
I wanted him to save it a little bit.
00:52:21.340 --> 00:52:23.099
And he just didn't, know.
00:52:23.099 --> 00:52:26.489
I was really like, there's gotta be something here, you know?
00:52:26.820 --> 00:52:30.570
But then I think I also wanted like, at least like a little bit of like ambiguity.
00:52:30.570 --> 00:52:34.099
I like, not he's, that he's as bad as I thought he would be.
00:52:34.219 --> 00:52:35.809
Well, I was still holding onto hope.
00:52:35.809 --> 00:52:38.780
I was like, maybe he is just awkward and weird, you know?
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.000
Like, I don't know he had, because the first meeting he didn't say anything so heinous I felt no.
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:50.315
Then later he was like, women's with women with thoughts and I was like, come on dude, come on man.
00:52:50.815 --> 00:52:51.034
Oh.
00:52:51.034 --> 00:52:52.510
And then he was like, yeah, you're getting fat.
00:52:52.570 --> 00:52:53.019
I was like, okay.
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:53.969
Unbelievable.
00:52:53.969 --> 00:52:54.449
Skipping ahead.
00:52:54.449 --> 00:53:01.150
But the yeah, I was unfortunate that this chaperone meeting, I think I also wanted more of the foil.
00:53:01.179 --> 00:53:02.289
'cause what's his name?
00:53:02.710 --> 00:53:08.460
So the guy replaces the teacher who's not dead, who had a heart attack, is I've, is
00:53:08.498 --> 00:53:08.918
Mm-hmm.
00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:09.690
Jed.
00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:11.929
he is like.
00:53:12.289 --> 00:53:12.940
He's a cutie.
00:53:12.940 --> 00:53:12.994
He's a cutie.
00:53:13.385 --> 00:53:14.255
Cutie.
00:53:14.554 --> 00:53:15.184
He's cute.
00:53:15.434 --> 00:53:18.855
He's her teacher now, so there's a little bit of that hot for teacher thing going on.
00:53:18.855 --> 00:53:19.485
I'm just kidding.
00:53:19.985 --> 00:53:20.764
is inappropriate.
00:53:21.264 --> 00:53:27.255
Well, I mean, t she, but he's basically like her age, so like Yeah, like it's a lot more kosher.
00:53:27.525 --> 00:53:28.530
Yeah, it's totally kosher.
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:29.775
Yeah, totally kosher.
00:53:29.775 --> 00:53:33.614
And he's like, you know, more engaged in the subject and like teaching her sort of like the
00:53:33.688 --> 00:53:35.248
Which is religion, by the way.
00:53:35.748 --> 00:53:36.168
Yeah.
00:53:36.307 --> 00:53:36.427
Religion.
00:53:36.632 --> 00:53:37.262
She was like,
00:53:37.429 --> 00:53:38.088
He's like, this is,
00:53:38.103 --> 00:53:40.233
she was like, oh, that's what he was teaching me.
00:53:40.733 --> 00:53:42.382
She was like, why are you teaching me religion?
00:53:42.382 --> 00:53:44.603
He is like, that's that's what you've been learning, isn't it?
00:53:44.603 --> 00:53:46.402
She's like, oh, is that what that was?
00:53:46.902 --> 00:53:47.682
it's like, I had no idea.
00:53:47.682 --> 00:53:48.943
Gotta look at my rubric.
00:53:48.943 --> 00:53:52.452
I'm pretty sure finally got the sub folder, but I think,
00:53:52.952 --> 00:53:53.432
I thought,
00:53:53.554 --> 00:53:53.824
God.
00:53:53.943 --> 00:53:55.802
I thought this was Cal 1 0 1.
00:53:56.302 --> 00:53:56.543
Yeah.
00:53:57.043 --> 00:54:12.123
So they kind of bond a little bit and he seems to, he seems to be the foil for charming and he's like, like much more down to earth and they seem to hit it off and it seems like, oh, well maybe she has a little bit of a crush, or he has a little bit of a crush, maybe.
00:54:12.302 --> 00:54:13.682
But then I felt like that was it.
00:54:14.182 --> 00:54:16.282
Like we didn't really delve farther into it.
00:54:16.282 --> 00:54:17.152
Am I crazy?
00:54:17.601 --> 00:54:18.891
No, that is it.
00:54:19.222 --> 00:54:29.621
I, but I feel like, I remember from childhood there being a lot more, so maybe it was like as an adult with more established emotions and everything, I was like, oh, there's not much there.
00:54:29.621 --> 00:54:32.081
But as a kid I was like, oh my God, they're totally so
00:54:32.427 --> 00:54:33.177
Yeah.
00:54:33.677 --> 00:54:42.338
I thought they were cute, but they didn't like, she was very much not acknowledging or noticing she was into him at the beginning.
00:54:42.338 --> 00:54:42.697
Yeah.
00:54:42.697 --> 00:54:45.398
It's not until like the end that we get a lot more of that.
00:54:45.398 --> 00:54:45.458
Yeah.
00:54:45.516 --> 00:54:45.806
Yeah.
00:54:45.907 --> 00:54:48.612
I thought they were super cute at the end, but yeah, the ending was nice.
00:54:48.672 --> 00:54:49.733
At the beginning I was like.
00:54:49.873 --> 00:54:53.532
He's, I mean, at least he's got like thoughts and ambitions, you know?
00:54:53.623 --> 00:54:53.833
No.
00:54:53.833 --> 00:54:54.913
And he's like, he's better than charming.
00:54:54.913 --> 00:54:56.413
Noble in a lot of ways.
00:54:56.413 --> 00:54:56.652
Yeah.
00:54:56.657 --> 00:54:58.813
He's like, I want to help refugees.
00:54:58.813 --> 00:55:00.822
And I was like, well, that I'll take anything, you know?
00:55:00.822 --> 00:55:01.483
That's great.
00:55:01.483 --> 00:55:02.652
That's above and beyond, buddy.
00:55:02.652 --> 00:55:02.983
Thank you.
00:55:02.983 --> 00:55:03.597
Alternative much.
00:55:03.597 --> 00:55:06.282
Well, the alternative is charming and he is awful.
00:55:06.402 --> 00:55:09.492
So yeah, it's like, well, you look really good.
00:55:09.913 --> 00:55:10.902
But that's what it felt like.
00:55:10.902 --> 00:55:13.242
It felt like on his own, he wouldn't have looked that good.
00:55:13.242 --> 00:55:15.943
It felt like it was only in comparison to this horrible option.
00:55:15.943 --> 00:55:16.452
Well, I don't know.
00:55:16.452 --> 00:55:17.503
He was a nice guy.
00:55:17.592 --> 00:55:19.833
Yeah, the refugee thing, okay.
00:55:19.833 --> 00:55:27.213
But he was a nice guy, is almost always, it's never an insult, but it's never like it's true like romantic level concept.
00:55:27.213 --> 00:55:32.163
He wasn't like the most charismatic guy in the world, but he was like a perfectly.
00:55:32.413 --> 00:55:33.463
Acceptable suitor.
00:55:33.463 --> 00:55:41.103
I felt if I met him also, we, he was, I'm sure he was cute, which makes up for a lot of lack of personality.
00:55:41.402 --> 00:55:48.652
But he, I just, off everything that you've said about him just now, I'm imagining wedding vows being said, he was perfectly respectable.
00:55:48.652 --> 00:55:50.987
He was a nice guy, but they were getting to know each other.
00:55:51.487 --> 00:55:55.193
the end, everything, I was like, yes, I see this.
00:55:55.253 --> 00:55:56.362
I could also see it.
00:55:56.362 --> 00:56:03.072
There was just like no spark there to begin with, which, I mean, maybe there was, yeah, I feel like she was dealing with a lot.
00:56:03.072 --> 00:56:03.882
She was dealing with a
00:56:04.016 --> 00:56:07.916
I mean, she was still like fully into Prince Charming at this point.
00:56:07.976 --> 00:56:08.786
Like when they meet,
00:56:08.793 --> 00:56:09.922
He thought he wasn't into him, so
00:56:10.166 --> 00:56:12.356
she's like, he makes my heart flutter.
00:56:12.568 --> 00:56:15.088
him, even if she didn't have a spark.
00:56:15.447 --> 00:56:15.507
Yeah.
00:56:15.507 --> 00:56:16.827
I would've liked, I would've liked to see more of him.
00:56:16.858 --> 00:56:17.907
I, I, I agree.
00:56:18.117 --> 00:56:24.527
Instead of him as just the alternative to a horrible, an alternative who does, didn't really seem to have that many faults either.
00:56:24.588 --> 00:56:26.867
It was like, yeah, he's got good stuff going.
00:56:27.047 --> 00:56:31.907
Yeah, but I wasn't, there wasn't like a lot, a ton of complexity, I guess.
00:56:31.907 --> 00:56:32.568
No, there wasn't.
00:56:32.568 --> 00:56:34.007
'cause we just didn't get to see him that much.
00:56:34.038 --> 00:56:34.128
Yeah.
00:56:34.128 --> 00:56:35.237
I wish she had been in it more.
00:56:35.327 --> 00:56:37.188
I liked Mary the servant.
00:56:37.248 --> 00:56:38.237
Oh, I liked her too.
00:56:38.297 --> 00:56:38.628
Yeah.
00:56:38.717 --> 00:56:40.788
I think right now, I mean, I think she's my favorite.
00:56:40.878 --> 00:56:41.418
She was cute.
00:56:41.418 --> 00:56:42.858
I remember thinking she was my favorite.
00:56:43.248 --> 00:56:43.518
Yeah.
00:56:43.818 --> 00:56:44.027
Okay.
00:56:44.027 --> 00:56:46.967
Well, I will admit, when Jed showed up, I was like, okay, now we're cooking.
00:56:47.057 --> 00:56:47.958
Like, okay.
00:56:48.018 --> 00:56:48.708
Thank God.
00:56:48.947 --> 00:56:51.858
Because I was really nervous that it was just gonna be.
00:56:52.358 --> 00:56:53.438
Terrible Prince.
00:56:53.527 --> 00:56:56.887
And then I was like, I mean, is there not gonna be a love interest in this?
00:56:56.887 --> 00:56:58.148
And I was like, I guess that's fine.
00:56:58.507 --> 00:57:01.597
I was like, but I kind of like it if there was a love interest.
00:57:02.097 --> 00:57:03.898
This is Cinderella after all.
00:57:03.898 --> 00:57:03.987
Yeah.
00:57:03.987 --> 00:57:06.617
Then he showed up and I was like, yeah, okay.
00:57:06.918 --> 00:57:10.338
I see where Wanted it like I wanted it all or nothing.
00:57:10.487 --> 00:57:13.967
I wanted like, we are in love or there's no romance whatsoever.
00:57:14.418 --> 00:57:16.338
And I wanted like one or the other.
00:57:16.338 --> 00:57:17.898
This felt very wishy-washy.
00:57:18.351 --> 00:57:19.371
Oh, the romance was
00:57:19.427 --> 00:57:19.697
I think
00:57:19.728 --> 00:57:20.027
very like
00:57:20.527 --> 00:57:20.737
it's
00:57:20.856 --> 00:57:21.336
young.
00:57:21.396 --> 00:57:21.847
Yeah.
00:57:21.967 --> 00:57:22.387
Yeah.
00:57:22.538 --> 00:57:22.807
Yeah.
00:57:22.807 --> 00:57:24.757
And she's like, what, 15?
00:57:25.257 --> 00:57:25.858
is teeny.
00:57:25.858 --> 00:57:26.097
She's a
00:57:26.336 --> 00:57:28.797
It was written more accurately for like,
00:57:29.297 --> 00:57:29.646
Worse.
00:57:30.146 --> 00:57:30.327
yeah.
00:57:30.327 --> 00:57:30.806
But he is.
00:57:30.838 --> 00:57:33.177
worse because of the other things of In this book.
00:57:33.327 --> 00:57:33.387
Yeah.
00:57:33.418 --> 00:57:34.588
It's really, that's what I'm saying.
00:57:34.978 --> 00:57:36.568
I was like, how is this middle grade?
00:57:37.068 --> 00:57:37.099
Oh my god.
00:57:37.338 --> 00:57:37.637
Yeah.
00:57:38.088 --> 00:57:44.568
And I guess it's not, but I would rewrite it and make it longer and add more detail and either add romance or take away
00:57:44.907 --> 00:57:45.126
The,
00:57:45.257 --> 00:57:46.967
then make it a firm young adult.
00:57:47.467 --> 00:57:47.737
Yeah.
00:57:47.737 --> 00:57:53.847
Because I think that the, like the world building was like there was something going there.
00:57:53.907 --> 00:57:54.208
Yeah.
00:57:54.327 --> 00:57:57.978
I liked the I kinda like it when it's like scary a little bit.
00:57:57.978 --> 00:57:58.097
Yeah.
00:57:58.157 --> 00:57:59.927
You know, I liked the main character too.
00:57:59.927 --> 00:58:04.068
I liked Ella and her character Arc was really interesting and the way that she came to conclusions.
00:58:04.068 --> 00:58:04.277
Mm-hmm.
00:58:04.278 --> 00:58:05.807
But, uh, oh, I might have made a mistake.
00:58:05.807 --> 00:58:07.307
We're very like relatable.
00:58:07.338 --> 00:58:07.398
Yeah.
00:58:07.398 --> 00:58:08.358
And very human.
00:58:08.608 --> 00:58:08.898
Yeah.
00:58:08.927 --> 00:58:12.402
she also like you can very much see the naive girl in her too.
00:58:12.431 --> 00:58:15.302
'cause she is like, she's like, oh no, I made a mistake.
00:58:15.331 --> 00:58:16.862
I'll just tell him like, it's okay.
00:58:16.862 --> 00:58:17.702
It's not for me.
00:58:18.202 --> 00:58:18.592
Thanks.
00:58:18.592 --> 00:58:18.742
Bye.
00:58:19.242 --> 00:58:19.541
I know.
00:58:19.541 --> 00:58:23.791
It's like, oh honey, oh sweetheart, girl, you are 15 years old.
00:58:23.791 --> 00:58:24.391
You're gonna die.
00:58:24.891 --> 00:58:25.581
You're gonna die.
00:58:25.681 --> 00:58:26.132
That's right.
00:58:26.132 --> 00:58:26.371
Yep.
00:58:26.612 --> 00:58:27.152
Okay.
00:58:27.152 --> 00:58:27.961
It's bad things.
00:58:28.461 --> 00:58:28.702
Oh.
00:58:28.865 --> 00:58:30.655
But there's, I guess, background.
00:58:31.155 --> 00:58:31.786
Becca.
00:58:31.786 --> 00:58:36.215
So Jed, oh, they, the Prince and her have their chaperone thing.
00:58:36.425 --> 00:58:44.675
Then she meets Jed, who's her new tutor, who's actually the son of the guy that was tutoring her, who was like the priest or something like the royal priest.
00:58:44.675 --> 00:58:47.646
So he's like supposed to become the next royal PE priest.
00:58:48.036 --> 00:58:54.865
Um, and he wants to, he wants to save the refugees from this, uh, war that's going on this needless war.
00:58:55.295 --> 00:58:56.675
And she's like, well, why don't you do it?
00:58:56.675 --> 00:58:59.465
And he's like because they won't give me money to do that.
00:58:59.835 --> 00:59:00.885
So I just can't.
00:59:01.335 --> 00:59:07.505
And then there's a tournament and she's like, thank goodness I get to like, go outside and do something.
00:59:08.005 --> 00:59:11.126
And so she's like all excited to go to this tournament.
00:59:11.126 --> 00:59:16.436
They put her in this newest fashion corset and she's like, this thing is horrible.
00:59:16.936 --> 00:59:18.106
It's like a box.
00:59:18.436 --> 00:59:20.266
They describe it as like a box.
00:59:20.516 --> 00:59:21.356
Terrible.
00:59:21.445 --> 00:59:21.956
And then she,
00:59:22.215 --> 00:59:22.505
yeah.
00:59:22.525 --> 00:59:25.317
like, yeah, the queen and the prince wanted you to wear it.
00:59:25.817 --> 00:59:26.106
Yeah.
00:59:26.606 --> 00:59:30.626
And she was like, oh, I'm so sorry that I'm like not emaciated anymore.
00:59:30.987 --> 00:59:32.577
I was so mad.
00:59:32.577 --> 00:59:35.606
I was about to fight somebody and his name was Prince Charming.
00:59:35.666 --> 00:59:36.356
Yeah.
00:59:36.806 --> 00:59:38.251
I don't like these Charmings
00:59:38.396 --> 00:59:43.905
Which is crazy because at that point, didn't they like their women plump anyway, like, I dunno,
00:59:44.266 --> 00:59:46.306
historically, but this is like an alternate history.
00:59:46.306 --> 00:59:47.896
His kingdom is terrible.
00:59:47.896 --> 00:59:49.782
Like something is going on here's
00:59:50.282 --> 00:59:50.911
something.
00:59:51.123 --> 00:59:52.382
bad in this kingdom.
00:59:52.382 --> 00:59:55.023
It's like an alternate worse, they worse history.
00:59:55.023 --> 00:59:59.373
In some ways they're like, the sicker you look, the better darling.
00:59:59.373 --> 01:00:02.762
Like let's just throw you in the dungeon real quick for a couple weeks you'll look
01:00:02.942 --> 01:00:03.242
Yeah.
01:00:03.481 --> 01:00:05.192
Pale and thin and it's great.
01:00:05.692 --> 01:00:06.141
Yeah.
01:00:06.141 --> 01:00:07.072
There's no way.
01:00:07.072 --> 01:00:07.342
Yeah.
01:00:07.492 --> 01:00:15.262
Which is why Oh, and during this time is when also we get the big flashback with the, like her going to the ball.
01:00:15.565 --> 01:00:16.065
Oh yeah.
01:00:16.565 --> 01:00:21.516
And basically we kind of find out that the ball was sort of like a beauty pageant,
01:00:22.016 --> 01:00:22.306
Yeah.
01:00:22.507 --> 01:00:30.577
the hottest was going to when like when she goes to the ball, they like kind of separate her off with all the hotties and all.
01:00:30.577 --> 01:00:33.327
And all theos are in this other ball's like,
01:00:33.340 --> 01:00:35.021
Like her stepsisters.
01:00:35.036 --> 01:00:37.706
you know, like, I'm like, there's no way I'd be in the hot ball room.
01:00:37.706 --> 01:00:38.036
You know?
01:00:38.157 --> 01:00:39.146
It's so disappointing.
01:00:39.327 --> 01:00:46.976
And then the her stepsisters went to the Hugo Ballroom and also there was, there's like no magic, always all the front dumps in
01:00:47.065 --> 01:00:47.266
yeah.
01:00:47.766 --> 01:00:50.155
All the, there's like no magic
01:00:50.655 --> 01:00:54.405
Everyone's like, oh, did you have a, did you have a fairy godmother?
01:00:54.405 --> 01:00:56.476
She's like, ha ha, what are you even talking about?
01:00:56.507 --> 01:00:58.461
She's like, what Sherry Gamo are you talking about?
01:00:58.561 --> 01:00:59.382
And then, and
01:00:59.436 --> 01:01:02.661
She's like, I conned these glass slippers off of a guy on my own.
01:01:03.161 --> 01:01:04.510
I did kinda like that bit.
01:01:04.871 --> 01:01:08.681
She basically like, yeah, con her way into getting the glass slippers.
01:01:08.681 --> 01:01:13.300
And then also like, uh, just like gets a ride from this guy who has a carriage.
01:01:13.331 --> 01:01:18.221
And the reason she has to leave at midnight is because he has to go pick up his real clients, like later.
01:01:18.264 --> 01:01:18.554
Yeah.
01:01:18.610 --> 01:01:21.666
only had, he's like, if you come back at midnight, I'll take you back real quick.
01:01:21.666 --> 01:01:22.025
Mm-hmm.
01:01:22.110 --> 01:01:22.871
Like, that's it.
01:01:22.900 --> 01:01:24.190
I was like, that's kind of funny.
01:01:24.251 --> 01:01:25.061
That's kind of clever.
01:01:25.061 --> 01:01:25.240
Yeah.
01:01:25.240 --> 01:01:25.840
I like that.
01:01:26.121 --> 01:01:28.010
So it's, she's just like so normal.
01:01:28.010 --> 01:01:32.260
And then the rest of the, like the next day she was just like, oh man, what a great day.
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.990
Well, anyway, and then she became suddenly the princess.
01:01:36.346 --> 01:01:36.626
Yeah.
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:38.570
Like really not even realizing.
01:01:38.900 --> 01:01:39.110
Yeah.
01:01:39.110 --> 01:01:40.490
Like that is crazy.
01:01:40.911 --> 01:01:42.231
That would be so nuts.
01:01:42.351 --> 01:01:50.641
But yeah, so basically she was, oh, all about to say, I guess already being pale and sickly from her surf hood was
01:01:50.764 --> 01:01:51.414
why she got picked.
01:01:51.751 --> 01:01:52.201
to them.
01:01:52.471 --> 01:01:52.740
Yeah.
01:01:53.240 --> 01:01:55.971
And now that she is like a healthy weight and Yeah.
01:01:56.471 --> 01:01:56.860
Normal.
01:01:56.860 --> 01:02:00.751
They're like you're gonna need to shed a few pounds fatty.
01:02:00.871 --> 01:02:03.661
And she's like, I, but they're like, don't do any manual labor.
01:02:03.661 --> 01:02:04.681
'cause that's disgusting.
01:02:04.681 --> 01:02:05.581
Disgusting.
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.050
And you're not allowed to go outside.
01:02:07.201 --> 01:02:07.621
Oh my God.
01:02:07.650 --> 01:02:10.291
Even during the tournament, like she's not allowed to watch the
01:02:10.380 --> 01:02:10.800
Yes.
01:02:11.010 --> 01:02:13.610
she'll, like, the sun will be there and people
01:02:13.670 --> 01:02:13.820
the
01:02:13.911 --> 01:02:14.001
at
01:02:14.090 --> 01:02:14.869
And like what?
01:02:14.990 --> 01:02:15.771
by her beauty.
01:02:15.829 --> 01:02:16.460
Oh yeah.
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:16.789
Yep.
01:02:16.789 --> 01:02:17.059
Yep.
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:17.769
What were
01:02:17.784 --> 01:02:20.184
Plus like they don't wanna see the violence of that.
01:02:20.244 --> 01:02:21.143
They don't wanna see the violence.
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:22.329
the unpleasantness.
01:02:22.329 --> 01:02:25.119
It's so bad there's gonna be blood and stuff.
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.579
I was so mad about that.
01:02:27.670 --> 01:02:32.980
She like stood up and was fully like, worked herself into a frenzy enough that she like passed out.
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:35.175
She was like, girl, me too.
01:02:35.175 --> 01:02:37.034
I'd be like, lifted.
01:02:37.534 --> 01:02:43.135
And then she's confined to her bed all day and she's just like so upset.
01:02:43.224 --> 01:02:44.574
Oh my God, I
01:02:44.724 --> 01:02:46.673
That's basically the turning point.
01:02:46.884 --> 01:02:48.563
That's where she's like, I have to get outta here.
01:02:48.563 --> 01:02:49.943
I'm not, this isn't my deal.
01:02:50.443 --> 01:02:55.844
So she goes to, she tells the Prince first right.
01:02:55.963 --> 01:02:58.934
She's like, in their chaperone meeting, she's like, Hey.
01:02:58.934 --> 01:03:01.293
So, she's like, I wanna do this nicely.
01:03:01.293 --> 01:03:03.634
She's like, I kind of just wanna be like, bye and then leave.
01:03:03.873 --> 01:03:05.733
But I should be like, nice about this.
01:03:05.733 --> 01:03:12.603
So she's like, Hey, so I don't think you really like me and I don't really like you, so let's just part ways like amicably.
01:03:13.103 --> 01:03:14.773
And he's like, what?
01:03:14.773 --> 01:03:15.373
No, hold on.
01:03:15.373 --> 01:03:16.333
Stay here, hold on.
01:03:16.833 --> 01:03:19.864
I need, I need someone else to tell me what to do in this situation.
01:03:20.364 --> 01:03:20.693
He like
01:03:20.873 --> 01:03:21.443
And he goes,
01:03:21.653 --> 01:03:24.773
even make it remotely like any kind of decision for himself.
01:03:25.072 --> 01:03:32.182
Mary, the servant says at one point something about like, like he wouldn't know how to put on his shoes if the servants didn't do it for him.
01:03:32.682 --> 01:03:32.922
Yeah.
01:03:32.922 --> 01:03:34.422
I got the ick really bad.
01:03:34.512 --> 01:03:35.047
Oh, it was so good.
01:03:35.108 --> 01:03:37.273
He was like, he like malfunctioned.
01:03:37.773 --> 01:03:37.992
yes.
01:03:38.438 --> 01:03:39.157
Fully.
01:03:39.219 --> 01:03:40.539
are not allowed to do that.
01:03:40.539 --> 01:03:41.018
I
01:03:41.518 --> 01:03:41.969
It's like
01:03:41.969 --> 01:03:42.059
do
01:03:42.268 --> 01:03:43.498
this isn't in the program.
01:03:43.498 --> 01:03:45.389
I don't know what to, I don't know how to respond.
01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:47.429
This is, I wasn't programmed for this response.
01:03:47.929 --> 01:03:48.219
Yeah.
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:49.949
Like her.
01:03:50.449 --> 01:03:50.748
And when
01:03:50.822 --> 01:03:51.213
Yes.
01:03:51.318 --> 01:03:52.128
up, she's in the
01:03:52.628 --> 01:03:53.409
The dungeon
01:03:53.530 --> 01:03:55.300
Horrible, terrible.
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:56.190
I was like,
01:03:56.208 --> 01:03:57.193
in the dun drum,
01:03:57.510 --> 01:04:01.440
Let's see what, and then I felt like, but we were like three quarters of the way through the story at that point.
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:02.869
Yeah, she,
01:04:03.369 --> 01:04:04.389
she is in the dungeon.
01:04:04.889 --> 01:04:15.119
And, uh, they send the prince down to be like, Hey, I know you went crazy for a moment, but if you just come back up and marry me, it'll be fine because you have to have my babies.
01:04:15.739 --> 01:04:16.458
And
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:16.909
Gross.
01:04:17.409 --> 01:04:25.139
she's like, she's like trying to find a way to escape and she knows if she goes back up and gets locked in a room, she'll never be able to escape.
01:04:25.139 --> 01:04:28.860
So she's like, oh, actually I don't deserve your forgiveness.
01:04:28.860 --> 01:04:31.769
Leave me down here for three more days, please.
01:04:31.769 --> 01:04:32.699
I don't deserve it.
01:04:32.699 --> 01:04:34.280
And he's like makes sense.
01:04:34.284 --> 01:04:34.565
Okay.
01:04:35.065 --> 01:04:36.985
He has kind of like another moment of like, doesn't.
01:04:37.485 --> 01:04:37.815
Yeah.
01:04:37.965 --> 01:04:39.855
He is like, dunno what to do to this situation.
01:04:39.885 --> 01:04:42.914
They told me she would say this and I, now, I don't know, that's not what she said.
01:04:42.914 --> 01:04:44.985
So, like, I don't, I don't know what to respond.
01:04:45.271 --> 01:04:46.920
she, I guess she can, sure.
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:47.550
Yes you can.
01:04:47.911 --> 01:04:48.481
Yes.
01:04:48.690 --> 01:04:49.621
Do your penance.
01:04:49.940 --> 01:04:54.291
I love the description of it sounded like he was like reading off of like, cue cards.
01:04:54.380 --> 01:04:54.771
Yes.
01:04:54.905 --> 01:04:55.655
Yes.
01:04:56.155 --> 01:04:58.764
oh no, I did not know you were down here.
01:04:59.264 --> 01:05:01.425
Come up with me and all will be well.
01:05:01.514 --> 01:05:03.494
And she is like, he's a terrible actor.
01:05:03.945 --> 01:05:04.994
Well, he's really bad.
01:05:05.494 --> 01:05:07.684
It was so funny watching them him.
01:05:08.184 --> 01:05:10.375
It was, was totally like badly rehearsed.
01:05:10.585 --> 01:05:17.635
The only good thing about that was that then he killed that the guy who was like her jailer, who was a literal rapist
01:05:18.123 --> 01:05:18.909
Oh yeah,
01:05:19.409 --> 01:05:20.699
I'm going to, uh.
01:05:21.043 --> 01:05:21.253
yeah.
01:05:21.253 --> 01:05:24.612
Madam Bessette brought him down and was like, he is gonna watch you now.
01:05:24.612 --> 01:05:26.202
And I might give him the keys later.
01:05:26.208 --> 01:05:26.713
Ha ha ha.
01:05:26.713 --> 01:05:35.922
And he's very much like, like an Lenny from of Mice and Men, but a rapist, like an actual like, yeah, malicious.
01:05:35.922 --> 01:05:36.793
Like he's very like,
01:05:36.983 --> 01:05:37.304
malicious.
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:38.099
Yeah.
01:05:38.322 --> 01:05:41.293
but like I'm also going to be just horrible.
01:05:41.293 --> 01:05:41.353
Um,
01:05:41.853 --> 01:05:42.152
Yeah.
01:05:42.152 --> 01:05:43.742
He was disgusting.
01:05:43.952 --> 01:05:46.913
And I was like, this is so crazy, dude.
01:05:46.913 --> 01:05:49.163
I was like, I thought this was a middle grade.
01:05:49.163 --> 01:05:49.492
I know.
01:05:49.492 --> 01:05:49.793
I'm so
01:05:50.016 --> 01:05:50.467
yeah.
01:05:50.608 --> 01:05:54.682
And then the charming comes down and kills him, and I'm like, oh, he was just a pawn.
01:05:55.163 --> 01:05:55.492
Wait.
01:05:55.612 --> 01:05:55.913
Yeah.
01:05:55.913 --> 01:05:56.932
What is happening?
01:05:56.963 --> 01:05:59.213
Wait, but also now, like, we can just kill people.
01:05:59.273 --> 01:05:59.572
Yeah.
01:05:59.873 --> 01:06:00.112
Yeah.
01:06:00.112 --> 01:06:00.983
We just stabbed him.
01:06:00.983 --> 01:06:06.668
I, I honestly gasped so loud when he stabbed him, and then Ellen was like, okay, well now I'm even more traumatized.
01:06:07.163 --> 01:06:08.753
Just watch a guy get murdered.
01:06:09.233 --> 01:06:09.652
Yeah.
01:06:09.657 --> 01:06:16.652
And then, and so basically her plan is like, she's tunneling out through like the crap hole, which is Yeah.
01:06:16.713 --> 01:06:19.432
So it's like a hole in the ground where she's do her business.
01:06:19.672 --> 01:06:19.972
Yeah.
01:06:20.092 --> 01:06:24.202
like people for years and years and years have gone to the bathroom there.
01:06:24.351 --> 01:06:25.072
Like I was like,
01:06:25.097 --> 01:06:25.318
So.
01:06:25.818 --> 01:06:26.327
Oh so bad.
01:06:26.827 --> 01:06:28.117
She is braver than me.
01:06:28.208 --> 01:06:28.717
She is.
01:06:28.731 --> 01:06:29.391
yes,
01:06:29.438 --> 01:06:29.947
gonna die.
01:06:29.947 --> 01:06:30.038
It's
01:06:30.532 --> 01:06:31.492
no, that's okay.
01:06:31.762 --> 01:06:32.452
I'll have your baby.
01:06:32.452 --> 01:06:32.751
It's fine.
01:06:33.251 --> 01:06:34.351
Yeah, fine.
01:06:34.351 --> 01:06:35.192
Honestly, you know
01:06:35.206 --> 01:06:36.076
What's one baby?
01:06:36.362 --> 01:06:37.472
a fire for myself.
01:06:37.472 --> 01:06:38.132
Sounds okay.
01:06:38.132 --> 01:06:38.791
I guess.
01:06:39.291 --> 01:06:40.762
Oh my God.
01:06:40.942 --> 01:06:41.961
But she makes it out.
01:06:42.461 --> 01:06:43.481
And then she runs.
01:06:43.498 --> 01:06:43.648
Yeah.
01:06:43.648 --> 01:06:44.938
After like several days.
01:06:44.938 --> 01:06:45.237
Yeah.
01:06:45.387 --> 01:06:45.777
Yeah.
01:06:46.108 --> 01:06:46.318
She
01:06:46.496 --> 01:06:52.067
She runs to her stepmom's house because she's like trying to get new clothes or something.
01:06:52.246 --> 01:06:52.697
I don't know.
01:06:52.697 --> 01:06:54.766
I was like, that was a weird decision on your part there.
01:06:55.266 --> 01:06:55.806
I guess.
01:06:55.836 --> 01:06:56.077
Yeah.
01:06:56.077 --> 01:06:56.766
It felt odd.
01:06:56.766 --> 01:06:58.086
It felt like a strange decision.
01:06:58.586 --> 01:07:00.677
She like steals some stuff.
01:07:00.706 --> 01:07:02.476
Oh, she gets some of her dad's books.
01:07:02.777 --> 01:07:03.166
I think she
01:07:03.286 --> 01:07:03.735
Okay.
01:07:03.740 --> 01:07:04.036
Yeah.
01:07:04.096 --> 01:07:04.516
Oh yeah.
01:07:04.516 --> 01:07:04.996
Yeah.
01:07:05.496 --> 01:07:05.706
Right.
01:07:05.706 --> 01:07:13.161
'cause wasn't there sort of thing like she learned like the religion and history class sort of that like am, am I mashing different books up or is there's.
01:07:13.661 --> 01:07:16.150
Like, didn't she find out something weird about the kingdom?
01:07:16.291 --> 01:07:16.800
No.
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:17.311
No.
01:07:17.431 --> 01:07:18.420
I'm mashing up the different
01:07:18.510 --> 01:07:20.760
There's no, there's no evil plots there.
01:07:21.260 --> 01:07:21.530
Ah, other ones.
01:07:21.545 --> 01:07:25.405
I, she just, uh, I think she just was like wanting something from her dad's.
01:07:25.405 --> 01:07:31.494
And so then, so she got dad's stuff and then she like got food and stuff like that before she left.
01:07:31.554 --> 01:07:31.795
Yeah.
01:07:31.855 --> 01:07:37.275
But then stepmother intercepted her like, oh, great, you're back.
01:07:37.275 --> 01:07:37.574
Like,
01:07:37.693 --> 01:07:40.153
She is like, I knew you wouldn't make it at the castle.
01:07:40.369 --> 01:07:40.829
Yeah.
01:07:41.309 --> 01:07:43.559
She, she is like, actually I ran away.
01:07:43.588 --> 01:07:44.429
They didn't kick me out.
01:07:44.429 --> 01:07:45.358
And she's like, yeah, sure.
01:07:45.449 --> 01:07:45.539
Mm-hmm.
01:07:45.958 --> 01:07:47.969
Start sweeping my floors
01:07:48.074 --> 01:07:48.465
Ash.
01:07:48.554 --> 01:07:48.764
Yeah.
01:07:48.909 --> 01:07:50.989
Like yeah, she starts sweeping.
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:52.400
Yeah, whatever,
01:07:52.684 --> 01:07:53.224
rash.
01:07:53.724 --> 01:07:58.333
whatever, Ella, then Ella's like, oh my God, she's not even a little bit curious.
01:07:58.333 --> 01:08:00.344
Like, and I was like, that is crazy.
01:08:00.344 --> 01:08:06.134
If it was me, I'd be like, okay, well I'm so mad, but tell me everything, you know, like, I do need to know.
01:08:06.634 --> 01:08:08.103
And then she's like, okay, bye.
01:08:08.193 --> 01:08:08.824
And like, just
01:08:09.288 --> 01:08:11.327
And the stepmother's like thief, thief, thief.
01:08:11.327 --> 01:08:13.307
And all the neighbors are like, we don't really care.
01:08:13.307 --> 01:08:14.057
We don't like you.
01:08:14.057 --> 01:08:14.418
Anyways,
01:08:14.918 --> 01:08:16.912
They're like, eh, serves are right.
01:08:16.912 --> 01:08:18.682
They're like, oh, no, I'm asleep.
01:08:19.182 --> 01:08:20.082
Did you hear something?
01:08:20.533 --> 01:08:21.042
Not me.
01:08:21.542 --> 01:08:22.983
hear anything, sorry.
01:08:23.483 --> 01:08:23.863
and then.
01:08:23.913 --> 01:08:26.463
But he like goes on like this whole odyssey, you know?
01:08:26.613 --> 01:08:27.423
Yes.
01:08:27.724 --> 01:08:28.024
Yeah.
01:08:28.524 --> 01:08:35.154
She trucks all the way to the border of the war, to the refugee camp that Jed has gone away to.
01:08:35.453 --> 01:08:36.503
Like, hi, excuse me.
01:08:36.503 --> 01:08:37.314
Can I see Jed?
01:08:37.314 --> 01:08:38.453
And the lady's like, it's okay.
01:08:38.453 --> 01:08:39.354
You don't have to see him.
01:08:39.354 --> 01:08:40.104
We'll help you out.
01:08:40.104 --> 01:08:42.524
'cause she's so like, ragged looking.
01:08:42.524 --> 01:08:44.083
They're like, she's for sure a refugee.
01:08:44.083 --> 01:08:46.453
And she's like, oh no, I'm, I'm not a refugee.
01:08:46.953 --> 01:08:47.134
I'm
01:08:47.297 --> 01:08:50.457
And Jed is like, yeah, I'm actually the princess.
01:08:50.957 --> 01:08:51.533
Shut that down.
01:08:52.033 --> 01:08:59.082
oh yeah, we forgot to say like, I mean it's not a huge thing, but they actually never said that she was a servant.
01:08:59.203 --> 01:09:03.792
Um, when she got like chosen to be the princess, they said she was a princess from this far off land.
01:09:03.792 --> 01:09:07.993
'cause they didn't want, like, they wanted everyone to think she was royal blood and stuff.
01:09:08.052 --> 01:09:12.073
Of this far off land of people that were ugly too, was like the thing.
01:09:12.573 --> 01:09:12.863
Yeah.
01:09:13.363 --> 01:09:14.912
like, this seems like propaganda.
01:09:15.412 --> 01:09:17.662
I don't trust the kingdom at all, like propaganda.
01:09:18.162 --> 01:09:23.523
And also, yeah, Jed wasn't there because he actually did end up obviously getting his money,
01:09:23.747 --> 01:09:24.197
Yeah,
01:09:24.697 --> 01:09:26.617
and we found it was because Madame was like.
01:09:27.117 --> 01:09:28.077
get him out of here.
01:09:28.077 --> 01:09:28.782
I think you like, sir,
01:09:29.278 --> 01:09:30.448
we gotta get right.
01:09:30.448 --> 01:09:32.167
He likes he's gonna interfere if
01:09:32.202 --> 01:09:36.667
because there's like the princess advisor, so she was like, we can't have him whispering things.
01:09:37.167 --> 01:09:37.617
Yeah.
01:09:38.117 --> 01:09:40.546
So then Jed is like, oh my God.
01:09:41.046 --> 01:09:42.141
And she's like, Hey,
01:09:42.641 --> 01:09:43.391
And he is like,
01:09:43.393 --> 01:09:44.622
few things.
01:09:45.122 --> 01:09:47.193
he is like, it's so great that you're here.
01:09:47.342 --> 01:09:48.092
Will you marry me?
01:09:48.592 --> 01:09:48.773
Yeah.
01:09:49.273 --> 01:09:50.113
And she's like,
01:09:50.363 --> 01:09:52.733
I kind of just got out of a marriage.
01:09:53.233 --> 01:09:54.662
like buddy read the road.
01:09:54.667 --> 01:09:58.863
Like a really intense relationship and I actually needed to do some work on me.
01:09:58.922 --> 01:09:59.103
Right.
01:09:59.103 --> 01:09:59.222
Oh my
01:09:59.476 --> 01:09:59.596
A,
01:09:59.908 --> 01:10:00.198
Like
01:10:00.322 --> 01:10:04.356
really intense relationship where he like put me in the dungeon.
01:10:04.856 --> 01:10:07.346
Like a literal dungeon that killed a guy in front of me.
01:10:07.407 --> 01:10:08.577
It was a lot.
01:10:08.582 --> 01:10:08.811
Yeah.
01:10:08.817 --> 01:10:09.506
Yeah.
01:10:09.506 --> 01:10:12.117
So I'm just kind of like really working on me right now.
01:10:12.117 --> 01:10:14.306
I was like, did he really just propose.
01:10:14.806 --> 01:10:19.811
Like he was sweet about it, but I was like, buddy, like maybe wait a day at least like couldn't go on it.
01:10:19.811 --> 01:10:20.506
I was like, I like it.
01:10:20.506 --> 01:10:20.867
Save it
01:10:20.940 --> 01:10:21.761
We half an hour,
01:10:22.261 --> 01:10:22.770
Yeah.
01:10:22.770 --> 01:10:24.320
And then he have a bath first.
01:10:24.320 --> 01:10:24.711
I don't know.
01:10:25.211 --> 01:10:27.911
Let's like maybe hang out first and he was like, got it.
01:10:28.011 --> 01:10:28.490
Totally.
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:29.751
That's what I was gonna say.
01:10:30.230 --> 01:10:30.413
He was so cool about.
01:10:30.418 --> 01:10:30.951
He's like, you know what?
01:10:30.951 --> 01:10:31.251
Yes.
01:10:31.251 --> 01:10:32.230
That's bad.
01:10:32.230 --> 01:10:33.430
That was what I meant to say.
01:10:33.435 --> 01:10:35.470
What I was thinking I didn't, is not what I said.
01:10:35.470 --> 01:10:36.070
But the me too.
01:10:36.131 --> 01:10:36.610
Yeah, me too.
01:10:36.615 --> 01:10:36.746
Me too.
01:10:37.091 --> 01:10:37.661
That totally.
01:10:37.661 --> 01:10:38.411
Also me.
01:10:38.411 --> 01:10:38.831
Yeah.
01:10:38.980 --> 01:10:39.746
Was thinking, I think,
01:10:39.774 --> 01:10:40.854
I was just tying my shoe.
01:10:40.854 --> 01:10:41.274
Sorry.
01:10:41.274 --> 01:10:43.345
It was just my shoe lace came untied, so I was.
01:10:43.421 --> 01:10:44.110
it was untied.
01:10:44.110 --> 01:10:45.131
I am, yeah.
01:10:45.310 --> 01:10:45.730
No, yeah.
01:10:45.730 --> 01:10:46.511
Your ideas great.
01:10:46.511 --> 01:10:47.921
Let's totally, let's totally do that.
01:10:47.921 --> 01:10:52.100
But then I thought it was so sweet because he like pretty ime obviously.
01:10:52.100 --> 01:10:54.650
Then after she's like, uh, no, not yet.
01:10:55.131 --> 01:10:58.520
She's kind of like, oh God, am I gonna be able to stay here or should I leave?
01:10:58.520 --> 01:10:59.421
Like, this is awkward.
01:10:59.421 --> 01:11:02.751
And he immediately is like, so she's gonna be in charge of such and such.
01:11:02.871 --> 01:11:05.390
Like he like found a place for her immediately.
01:11:05.390 --> 01:11:05.391
Immediately.
01:11:05.396 --> 01:11:08.390
I was like, and it wasn't dependent upon her response to him.
01:11:08.390 --> 01:11:08.841
Yeah.
01:11:09.220 --> 01:11:09.730
Which is wonderful.
01:11:09.730 --> 01:11:12.296
Which was like, I know your strengths and I think you'd be great at this.
01:11:12.386 --> 01:11:13.286
And he just did it.
01:11:13.376 --> 01:11:14.725
I was like, wow, that's very sweet.
01:11:14.725 --> 01:11:15.386
That was really good.
01:11:15.386 --> 01:11:16.136
I liked that a lot.
01:11:16.136 --> 01:11:17.126
I liked that ending.
01:11:17.126 --> 01:11:25.006
And then, yeah, and so then they like work at the refugee camp together for like many months and they're like, I would love to see like a book.
01:11:25.006 --> 01:11:27.435
I mean, and maybe there is because isn't this a series?
01:11:27.935 --> 01:11:28.591
I don't think so.
01:11:29.091 --> 01:11:29.331
I don't
01:11:29.367 --> 01:11:29.756
I thought,
01:11:29.780 --> 01:11:30.650
think so.
01:11:31.150 --> 01:11:31.301
I
01:11:31.564 --> 01:11:32.494
Oh, you know what?
01:11:32.494 --> 01:11:35.045
I do think it is, but I never read the other one.
01:11:35.545 --> 01:11:35.875
Oh my
01:11:35.929 --> 01:11:37.248
I do think I saw that.
01:11:37.314 --> 01:11:39.885
the other ones'cause I wanna know yeah.
01:11:39.885 --> 01:11:45.824
And so then Jed has to go back to the palace though because his dad dies and so he's gotta now do his job.
01:11:46.005 --> 01:11:46.095
Mm-hmm.
01:11:46.335 --> 01:11:49.185
So he leaves and then Ella is like, oh, I miss him.
01:11:49.185 --> 01:11:51.795
And then she's like, oh, I think I'm in love with him.
01:11:52.295 --> 01:11:58.824
And then he like sends her a nice letter and they're like writing letters and stuff and I was like, wait, this is cute.
01:11:59.274 --> 01:11:59.425
Yeah.
01:11:59.524 --> 01:12:00.634
Yeah, it's a trilogy.
01:12:00.753 --> 01:12:01.083
Yeah.
01:12:01.435 --> 01:12:02.755
and Palace of Lies.
01:12:03.095 --> 01:12:03.364
Is it
01:12:03.484 --> 01:12:03.634
Yeah
01:12:04.364 --> 01:12:08.085
I don't, at Book two Looks like it's about someone else.
01:12:08.114 --> 01:12:08.744
No.
01:12:08.954 --> 01:12:09.765
Yeah, it is.
01:12:09.765 --> 01:12:12.965
Let me see pals of Mirrors is about someone else.
01:12:13.465 --> 01:12:13.854
Yes.
01:12:13.854 --> 01:12:16.194
So each one is a different fairytale
01:12:16.248 --> 01:12:16.529
princess.
01:12:16.645 --> 01:12:17.425
I think Pals of
01:12:17.548 --> 01:12:18.009
Oh, okay.
01:12:18.024 --> 01:12:24.135
might be I think it might be a Snow White and Palace of Lies I think is 12 dancing princesses.
01:12:24.635 --> 01:12:26.364
That is one of my favorite stories.
01:12:26.864 --> 01:12:27.564
12 dancing
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:27.810
about to
01:12:27.925 --> 01:12:28.324
princesses.
01:12:28.381 --> 01:12:30.121
might be interested in that 12 dancing princess.
01:12:30.621 --> 01:12:31.320
Yay spoons.
01:12:31.356 --> 01:12:32.481
Maybe we should read it, Sheena.
01:12:32.591 --> 01:12:38.886
Well, I would like a follow up to just Ella that it's like about them in the refugee camp.
01:12:38.976 --> 01:12:40.957
I want em to come back and then to.
01:12:41.362 --> 01:12:44.381
Have a nice wedding and then like run it together.
01:12:44.412 --> 01:12:44.502
Oh.
01:12:44.502 --> 01:12:47.051
Because when he leaves, she starts running it on her own.
01:12:47.051 --> 01:12:47.141
Yes.
01:12:47.141 --> 01:12:48.431
Which I thought was so cool.
01:12:48.431 --> 01:12:52.391
And then I want'em to get the refugees to band together and take down the charmings.
01:12:52.891 --> 01:12:53.282
Yes.
01:12:53.681 --> 01:12:54.216
Oh, oh.
01:12:54.216 --> 01:12:54.577
Also,
01:12:54.636 --> 01:12:55.655
write it Whiskey.
01:12:56.076 --> 01:12:56.315
Oh,
01:12:56.646 --> 01:12:57.697
her Yeah.
01:12:57.756 --> 01:13:02.527
Do it, her stepsister ends up being like the replacement princess.
01:13:02.735 --> 01:13:03.996
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:04.117 --> 01:13:04.596
so
01:13:04.926 --> 01:13:06.815
One of the ugly stepsisters.
01:13:07.235 --> 01:13:08.136
They're like,
01:13:08.346 --> 01:13:08.886
and switch.
01:13:09.386 --> 01:13:09.987
yeah.
01:13:10.136 --> 01:13:12.997
They're what did they say happened to Ella?
01:13:12.997 --> 01:13:16.136
Because they do say something I thought, or no?
01:13:16.167 --> 01:13:17.546
No, they don't say anything.
01:13:17.783 --> 01:13:18.073
Yeah.
01:13:18.313 --> 01:13:19.613
I think they're just pretending that it's
01:13:19.851 --> 01:13:20.542
Oh, yeah.
01:13:21.042 --> 01:13:21.462
Yeah.
01:13:21.493 --> 01:13:22.573
which is weird, but,
01:13:22.752 --> 01:13:23.261
Oh yeah.
01:13:23.261 --> 01:13:24.942
And'cause they say something about.
01:13:25.442 --> 01:13:30.481
They say something about how she was so fat that, um, they're like, they just had to change the fashion.
01:13:30.481 --> 01:13:38.851
So they made like all the ladies maids and everyone gained weight and like, that's the thing now they're like, they, they're like, they could never shrink the ugly subsist.
01:13:38.971 --> 01:13:40.112
So they just decided
01:13:40.143 --> 01:13:42.063
like, it's got it.
01:13:42.438 --> 01:13:44.073
The, I was like, mm-hmm.
01:13:44.182 --> 01:13:48.068
This is ringing a lot of like, I don't know, early thousands.
01:13:48.068 --> 01:13:48.457
Like
01:13:48.667 --> 01:13:50.247
I was just, yes.
01:13:50.396 --> 01:13:52.077
Nineties, it's nineties.
01:13:52.347 --> 01:13:52.887
Nineties.
01:13:52.887 --> 01:13:53.432
Oh my gosh.
01:13:53.512 --> 01:13:55.078
It's like, whatever, you know, it's fine.
01:13:55.318 --> 01:13:59.467
But then it made me think of do you guys remember, this might be a fun one as well.
01:13:59.467 --> 01:14:01.387
Farris the book Farris?
01:14:01.417 --> 01:14:02.978
No, but I've heard of that one.
01:14:03.007 --> 01:14:04.358
It's so good.
01:14:04.568 --> 01:14:21.188
And it's, um, set in the same world as Ella Enchanted, but it's not a lot of the characters are the same, but the Princess, or she's not the princess yet, but the main character kind of like bigger and like, feels awkward and like, thinks she's ugly and stuff.
01:14:21.217 --> 01:14:21.307
Mm-hmm.
01:14:21.547 --> 01:14:23.868
But, the cheese fairest of them all.
01:14:23.868 --> 01:14:25.068
Yeah, there's a lot.
01:14:25.188 --> 01:14:28.158
I actually, I was about to spoil the whole thing, but I won't.
01:14:28.158 --> 01:14:30.347
But anyway, it reminded me of Ferris a little bit.
01:14:30.847 --> 01:14:33.768
Maybe we can, but season is this the last episode of this season?
01:14:34.268 --> 01:14:35.047
Yes.
01:14:35.547 --> 01:14:35.818
yeah.
01:14:35.847 --> 01:14:38.118
Right, because we had, yep.
01:14:38.618 --> 01:14:39.247
Yes, indeed.
01:14:39.247 --> 01:14:39.608
Wow.
01:14:39.997 --> 01:14:40.627
Well, I
01:14:40.927 --> 01:14:42.158
What a bang till I go out.
01:14:42.368 --> 01:14:43.208
I enjoyed it.
01:14:43.708 --> 01:14:44.009
Yeah.
01:14:44.009 --> 01:14:45.538
This whole season or just this book?
01:14:45.788 --> 01:14:46.298
All of it.
01:14:46.798 --> 01:14:47.099
of it.
01:14:47.099 --> 01:14:47.458
All of
01:14:47.637 --> 01:14:48.733
There were ups and downs.
01:14:49.233 --> 01:14:51.752
Favorite and least favorite characters.
01:14:52.252 --> 01:14:52.972
I liked Mary.
01:14:53.472 --> 01:14:55.002
I know she wasn't like a big character.
01:14:55.002 --> 01:14:55.358
I liked her too.
01:14:55.858 --> 01:15:00.467
guess my favorite character is probably Ella or Jed.
01:15:00.917 --> 01:15:04.627
And then my least favorite was honestly Mad Basse about to say.
01:15:05.127 --> 01:15:05.417
same,
01:15:05.418 --> 01:15:08.958
also had him to say like the prince was at least brainwashed, you know?
01:15:09.168 --> 01:15:09.349
Yeah.
01:15:09.349 --> 01:15:13.279
She fully was like, I was a peasant too, and I like fought my way into this.
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.889
She was like, I fully know better and have chosen evil.
01:15:15.948 --> 01:15:16.128
Yeah.
01:15:16.128 --> 01:15:16.488
I was like,
01:15:16.653 --> 01:15:17.283
same.
01:15:17.298 --> 01:15:18.319
know, you're a bitch.
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:19.488
Like, I was so mad at her.
01:15:19.578 --> 01:15:19.788
Yeah.
01:15:20.252 --> 01:15:20.493
Yeah.
01:15:20.752 --> 01:15:26.243
My favorite is Ella too, and especially'cause I remember really connecting with her when I first read it.
01:15:26.393 --> 01:15:30.342
I was like, oh, but um, and yeah, Madam Maise the horrible, horrible woman.
01:15:30.842 --> 01:15:32.787
What about favorite and least favorite parts?
01:15:33.287 --> 01:15:34.997
Refugee camp is my favorite part.
01:15:34.997 --> 01:15:35.148
Yeah.
01:15:35.148 --> 01:15:35.927
I liked that.
01:15:36.318 --> 01:15:40.118
Least favorite part is like the first half of the book.
01:15:40.358 --> 01:15:41.557
Oh, dang.
01:15:41.768 --> 01:15:43.092
Pick you a minute to get into it.
01:15:43.092 --> 01:15:47.198
It took me a minute to get into it because I was just, I was like, this is a middle grade.
01:15:47.198 --> 01:15:48.457
No, this is really serious.
01:15:48.457 --> 01:15:49.448
No, this is a middle grade.
01:15:49.448 --> 01:15:52.658
No, this is really serious, and I just was confused.
01:15:52.658 --> 01:15:53.648
The book in two hours.
01:15:54.148 --> 01:15:54.438
Yeah.
01:15:54.443 --> 01:15:54.677
Yeah.
01:15:54.677 --> 01:15:55.667
It's a quick read.
01:15:55.728 --> 01:15:56.148
It is.
01:15:56.148 --> 01:15:58.967
I think I read it in like two days, a month and a half ago.
01:15:59.417 --> 01:15:59.988
Yeah.
01:16:00.488 --> 01:16:02.078
I, for me, that's so long ago.
01:16:02.578 --> 01:16:03.837
I'm trying to, I don't
01:16:04.016 --> 01:16:04.237
My,
01:16:04.377 --> 01:16:06.648
also really liked the ending, the whole
01:16:06.686 --> 01:16:13.252
my favorite part was her tricking the, the guy into making her glass slippers.
01:16:13.752 --> 01:16:14.952
Yes.
01:16:14.952 --> 01:16:15.492
That's really cool.
01:16:15.492 --> 01:16:16.271
That was really cool.
01:16:16.301 --> 01:16:16.692
Yeah.
01:16:16.692 --> 01:16:18.101
I like the whole flashback too.
01:16:18.601 --> 01:16:23.322
and then my least favorite part was the guy getting killed in the dungeon.
01:16:23.442 --> 01:16:25.481
Not'cause I didn't like him, but it was just like, uh.
01:16:25.981 --> 01:16:26.271
yeah.
01:16:26.277 --> 01:16:26.606
Yeah.
01:16:26.606 --> 01:16:27.686
It was like, oh, this is
01:16:27.850 --> 01:16:29.110
It is all kinds of ick.
01:16:29.110 --> 01:16:30.581
It was like, first of all, he's ick.
01:16:30.581 --> 01:16:31.690
Second of all, the prince is ick.
01:16:31.690 --> 01:16:36.100
Second, third of all thinking that killing him was gonna make her like you better is ick.
01:16:36.371 --> 01:16:37.240
Like it's just ick.
01:16:37.707 --> 01:16:38.726
yeah, it's a triple ick.
01:16:38.787 --> 01:16:39.027
It's
01:16:39.371 --> 01:16:39.791
Yeah.
01:16:40.167 --> 01:16:40.827
bad.
01:16:41.067 --> 01:16:41.306
Yeah,
01:16:41.381 --> 01:16:41.591
Yeah.
01:16:41.606 --> 01:16:41.936
it was cute.
01:16:42.436 --> 01:16:45.046
obviously it's a terrible situation, but at the end she was like,
01:16:45.480 --> 01:16:46.081
So I thought that's good.
01:16:46.277 --> 01:16:49.806
Jen about it and he was like, man, and they really thought that would work.
01:16:49.806 --> 01:16:50.856
They don't know you at all.
01:16:50.856 --> 01:16:52.957
And I was like, ah, he knows so well.
01:16:53.226 --> 01:16:53.827
Oh my gosh.
01:16:54.327 --> 01:16:54.627
Nice guy.
01:16:54.671 --> 01:16:59.051
knows her specifically so well because so many other women would've been like, ah, dreamy.
01:16:59.051 --> 01:16:59.981
loved it.
01:17:00.101 --> 01:17:00.282
Yeah.
01:17:00.782 --> 01:17:02.402
Ah, my heart is s flattering.
01:17:02.438 --> 01:17:05.762
classic, classic female fantasy to have someone killed in front of you.
01:17:06.262 --> 01:17:06.712
Yeah.
01:17:06.712 --> 01:17:07.012
Okay.
01:17:07.012 --> 01:17:07.582
Fair point.
01:17:08.082 --> 01:17:08.653
God.
01:17:09.153 --> 01:17:09.662
Too funny.
01:17:09.662 --> 01:17:12.212
But then I was like, that is so sucky.
01:17:12.302 --> 01:17:15.122
He was like, I've been in love with you since I first saw you.
01:17:15.122 --> 01:17:22.502
And she's like, so number one, I'm not big on love at first sight at the moment because of my situation, but thank you so much.
01:17:22.743 --> 01:17:25.712
Second of all where the hell did you go loca?
01:17:25.712 --> 01:17:27.233
And he was like, okay, well go.
01:17:27.733 --> 01:17:31.573
I have no idea you're gonna get trapped in a dungeon.
01:17:31.813 --> 01:17:33.012
How was I to know?
01:17:33.012 --> 01:17:34.632
Of course I feel terrible.
01:17:34.842 --> 01:17:36.853
And she is like, okay, yeah, that's fine.
01:17:37.092 --> 01:17:38.472
Glad you're doing your life's work.
01:17:38.722 --> 01:17:38.922
Yeah.
01:17:38.922 --> 01:17:39.853
I guess it's all fine.
01:17:39.853 --> 01:17:40.813
Water, the bridge.
01:17:40.997 --> 01:17:42.882
I was like, I did think that was weird too.
01:17:42.882 --> 01:17:46.233
Like I know that, like that madam, I can't say her name.
01:17:46.233 --> 01:17:46.353
Yeah.
01:17:46.592 --> 01:17:46.832
Whatever.
01:17:46.832 --> 01:17:51.962
That she sent him away and I understood that, but I felt like, did he just give up that easily?
01:17:52.292 --> 01:17:55.323
If he liked her enough that then he proposed on site.
01:17:55.382 --> 01:17:55.592
I'm
01:17:55.787 --> 01:17:58.697
Yeah, but he was like, she's fully marrying the prince.
01:17:58.697 --> 01:18:00.226
Like there's nothing I can do about it.
01:18:00.226 --> 01:18:02.506
And I'd rather not be like, heartbroken here.
01:18:02.677 --> 01:18:04.533
so, so, so he's a coward, is
01:18:04.606 --> 01:18:10.067
So he knows the charming side will just run you through with a sword or locking the dungeon.
01:18:10.382 --> 01:18:12.092
Right, they'll run you through with a sword.
01:18:12.092 --> 01:18:16.643
And also like, he had no in inclination that she liked him back.
01:18:16.657 --> 01:18:19.117
He also didn't have lots of guts to be real.
01:18:19.617 --> 01:18:21.027
He was a little bit of a like
01:18:21.527 --> 01:18:22.487
How old is he?
01:18:22.487 --> 01:18:24.186
Like 17.
01:18:24.186 --> 01:18:24.516
I was
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:25.490
Yeah, 17.
01:18:25.990 --> 01:18:26.280
yeah.
01:18:26.751 --> 01:18:27.440
Also baby.
01:18:27.940 --> 01:18:28.270
Yeah.
01:18:28.331 --> 01:18:28.990
That's fair.
01:18:29.291 --> 01:18:33.001
He did pretty well for a 17-year-old, for an 18-year-old.
01:18:33.001 --> 01:18:34.201
He did great for an 18-year-old.
01:18:34.701 --> 01:18:36.430
about what did we learn?
01:18:36.841 --> 01:18:38.490
We learn from just Ella.
01:18:38.990 --> 01:18:39.591
did we learn?
01:18:40.091 --> 01:18:45.251
I feel like we learned what has become very, it's not like news to us about power girl.
01:18:45.251 --> 01:18:45.552
Power girl power.
01:18:45.802 --> 01:18:45.804
Yeah.
01:18:45.804 --> 01:18:45.805
Yeah.
01:18:46.305 --> 01:18:47.145
I mean, I feel like.
01:18:47.180 --> 01:18:52.251
I could see myself really liking that aspect of it as a, like an 11-year-old, you know?
01:18:52.751 --> 01:19:02.360
Don't trust men on the first date, it was like, it's like, Hey, I know we've only met once, but like Never marry someone after the first date.
01:19:02.556 --> 01:19:14.317
suspicious when someone that you actually, anyone that you know, whether it's like romantic or otherwise, when they feel the need to like lie about you or your origins, that is highly suspicious.
01:19:14.817 --> 01:19:16.766
suspicious and ask why.
01:19:16.766 --> 01:19:18.476
Be like, so why did you say this thing about me?
01:19:18.476 --> 01:19:19.167
That's not true.
01:19:19.667 --> 01:19:20.596
Very weird.
01:19:20.686 --> 01:19:21.707
That is weird.
01:19:22.207 --> 01:19:23.407
I did not like that.
01:19:23.646 --> 01:19:24.726
And then also
01:19:25.220 --> 01:19:30.291
one time this guy I knew said that I was from California and I was like, why are you telling people that, you know?
01:19:30.791 --> 01:19:32.951
when you're clearly from Lithuania.
01:19:33.131 --> 01:19:34.301
Yeah, obviously.
01:19:34.301 --> 01:19:35.591
So what an idiot.
01:19:35.591 --> 01:19:36.041
I don't know that.
01:19:36.541 --> 01:19:37.161
Oh my gosh.
01:19:37.381 --> 01:19:37.600
Oh.
01:19:38.100 --> 01:19:38.791
That's all I learned.
01:19:38.791 --> 01:19:39.900
I've never, I didn't learn anything.
01:19:39.900 --> 01:19:49.451
I know like kind of thing where she was like, it's not that she wasn't getting her happy ever after, but she was like, I need figure some stuff out first, you
01:19:49.515 --> 01:19:49.675
Yeah.
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:49.810
Yes.
01:19:50.310 --> 01:19:51.690
I was like, good for you girl.
01:19:51.871 --> 01:19:57.735
And she was really finding herself because she wasn't time to like find herself yet, because she had been so like 15 years old.
01:19:57.796 --> 01:19:58.216
Always.
01:19:58.506 --> 01:19:58.855
Right?
01:19:58.905 --> 01:20:00.631
She's 15, first of all.
01:20:00.751 --> 01:20:07.291
Second of all, she had been like basically enslaved to someone for a long time, and then she was like
01:20:07.791 --> 01:20:08.786
Enslaved to the prince.
01:20:09.221 --> 01:20:10.572
and enslaved to someone else.
01:20:10.782 --> 01:20:13.601
So she had no time for like, figuring anything out.
01:20:13.841 --> 01:20:14.292
Yeah, that's true.
01:20:14.292 --> 01:20:20.032
So knowing like, instead of just being like, well, this is better than what I had, she was like, i'm gonna do me, you know?
01:20:20.122 --> 01:20:20.391
Yeah.
01:20:20.421 --> 01:20:25.162
But he was never like putting away like the idea like, well maybe I do like him, you know?
01:20:25.162 --> 01:20:25.221
Yeah.
01:20:25.252 --> 01:20:26.782
It was, I liked that for her a lot.
01:20:26.992 --> 01:20:27.322
Yeah.
01:20:27.742 --> 01:20:28.912
I like his response.
01:20:28.912 --> 01:20:35.631
I think we can all learn a lot and I, by we, I do mainly mean boys, but girls as well can learn a lot from how he responds.
01:20:35.631 --> 01:20:38.362
A graceful rejection and very graceful rejection.
01:20:38.362 --> 01:20:40.282
And it wasn't like a forever rejection.
01:20:40.341 --> 01:20:40.402
Yeah.
01:20:40.402 --> 01:20:41.032
Sometimes it is.
01:20:41.032 --> 01:20:42.891
And that's also, you have to be graceful about that.
01:20:42.891 --> 01:20:43.042
Right?
01:20:43.042 --> 01:20:43.042
Right.
01:20:43.047 --> 01:20:46.521
But like, he didn't take it as like, oh, it's about me.
01:20:46.792 --> 01:20:47.122
Yeah.
01:20:47.122 --> 01:20:48.652
I, it's'cause I'm not good enough.
01:20:48.652 --> 01:20:50.872
He was like, oh, she says she's got some things going on.
01:20:50.872 --> 01:20:54.801
I'm just gonna take her her word and assume she's got some things going on and I want good things for her.
01:20:54.801 --> 01:20:54.862
Yeah.
01:20:54.891 --> 01:20:56.212
But he was so supportive too.
01:20:56.212 --> 01:20:56.931
So supportive.
01:20:56.931 --> 01:20:58.971
He's like, you go work that stuff out, girl.
01:20:59.471 --> 01:21:00.011
Yeah.
01:21:00.221 --> 01:21:01.091
You go.
01:21:01.152 --> 01:21:03.072
Be the queen of the refugee camp.
01:21:03.252 --> 01:21:03.971
Yeah.
01:21:04.471 --> 01:21:05.462
good doing it too.
01:21:05.962 --> 01:21:07.341
What said that me?
01:21:07.497 --> 01:21:11.301
That so that would not be respectful of women would be bad of me.
01:21:11.301 --> 01:21:12.082
But you do look.
01:21:12.082 --> 01:21:13.101
Go great.
01:21:13.601 --> 01:21:14.082
Oh my God.
01:21:14.082 --> 01:21:15.011
You work in that bonnet.
01:21:15.061 --> 01:21:15.811
Girl.
01:21:16.311 --> 01:21:21.202
Gino, did you learn anything or you've already, you've learned everything you could possibly learn from this already.
01:21:21.591 --> 01:21:25.371
Yeah, I've studied it like extensively for, so
01:21:25.396 --> 01:21:28.106
You're like your hobbies filled with notes and highlights.
01:21:28.317 --> 01:21:28.947
You're like, it's
01:21:29.006 --> 01:21:29.095
it's,
01:21:29.216 --> 01:21:31.527
my whole personality dissertation.
01:21:31.555 --> 01:21:33.626
mean, you're not wrong there.
01:21:33.626 --> 01:21:34.256
To be fair,
01:21:34.756 --> 01:21:34.815
Aw,
01:21:35.175 --> 01:21:40.005
I pretty much base my whole personality off of Cinderella, I think, in my life.
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:40.300
So
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:41.520
that's so sweet.
01:21:42.020 --> 01:21:43.520
Well, should we do pinkies up?
01:21:43.819 --> 01:21:45.649
Yeah, let's do pinkies up.
01:21:46.149 --> 01:21:48.699
I am giving it 3.5 pinkies up.
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:50.020
Oh, very nice,
01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:50.739
me,
01:21:51.131 --> 01:21:51.421
Gino.
01:21:51.921 --> 01:21:57.730
I think I'm gonna go with it's, it's a little, I mean, yeah.
01:21:58.230 --> 01:21:59.581
I am still gonna go with high.
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.551
I'm gonna go with like 4.3.
01:22:02.911 --> 01:22:03.511
Think he's up.
01:22:04.011 --> 01:22:04.730
Aw, lovely.
01:22:04.940 --> 01:22:05.720
So sweet.
01:22:06.220 --> 01:22:08.230
I'm going to go with two pinkies up.
01:22:08.230 --> 01:22:08.291
Whoa.
01:22:08.791 --> 01:22:10.390
That's, that's fine.
01:22:10.890 --> 01:22:11.445
You like it?
01:22:11.445 --> 01:22:12.430
That's totally fine.
01:22:12.490 --> 01:22:13.671
And I don't even care.
01:22:14.171 --> 01:22:14.661
It's fine.
01:22:14.872 --> 01:22:15.582
dunno, man.
01:22:15.586 --> 01:22:15.975
guys.
01:22:15.975 --> 01:22:16.756
I have to go.
01:22:16.996 --> 01:22:17.595
I have to go.
01:22:18.095 --> 01:22:20.015
no, I liked it.
01:22:20.015 --> 01:22:21.876
That's not a bad rating for me.
01:22:21.935 --> 01:22:22.355
I don't
01:22:22.385 --> 01:22:23.135
No, that's okay.
01:22:23.225 --> 01:22:24.336
what my problem is.
01:22:24.336 --> 01:22:25.416
I don't think I would've liked
01:22:25.475 --> 01:22:26.015
I get it.
01:22:26.015 --> 01:22:26.404
But,
01:22:26.496 --> 01:22:28.115
the target audience anyways.
01:22:28.475 --> 01:22:28.835
Hmm.
01:22:29.335 --> 01:22:31.965
Now that I may have a problem with, it's like, it's okay.
01:22:31.965 --> 01:22:32.625
You're old.
01:22:32.625 --> 01:22:32.685
Uh.
01:22:32.956 --> 01:22:33.256
has.
01:22:33.345 --> 01:22:36.220
You're like, I would've understood if it was just because you're old.
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:37.230
No.
01:22:37.850 --> 01:22:41.720
Don't really have, like, I just didn't, like, I had a lot of like questions.
01:22:41.841 --> 01:22:43.041
I had so many questions.
01:22:43.041 --> 01:22:45.320
I felt like this is for middle grade, but
01:22:45.635 --> 01:22:50.435
Well, listen, I said she answers fan mail, so just write her and ask the questions.
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:52.131
Margaret a letter.
01:22:52.161 --> 01:22:52.671
Oh my God.
01:22:52.671 --> 01:22:54.501
Margaret, I have a question for you, Margaret.
01:22:54.501 --> 01:22:55.940
This is a craft question.
01:22:56.150 --> 01:22:59.091
You know, the book just Ella, that you wrote in 1999?
01:22:59.591 --> 01:23:03.445
You know that 25 6-year-old book that you wrote?
01:23:03.695 --> 01:23:05.195
Well, I was two years old at the time.
01:23:05.695 --> 01:23:06.895
I have a lot of questions.
01:23:07.395 --> 01:23:07.756
Gosh.
01:23:08.256 --> 01:23:13.166
Well, um, I am kind of like, I would like to see more of it, now it's like, oh, it's hopeless.
01:23:13.166 --> 01:23:15.115
She's never coming back to it, you know?
01:23:15.615 --> 01:23:17.086
It's been almost 30 years.
01:23:17.145 --> 01:23:18.376
Do you think she'd ever write a sneak?
01:23:18.876 --> 01:23:21.615
Listen, you don't know the what's his face?
01:23:21.615 --> 01:23:25.155
Christopher Palini just wrote that Ttag book, you know.
01:23:25.655 --> 01:23:25.985
He did.
01:23:26.195 --> 01:23:26.315
Yeah.
01:23:26.381 --> 01:23:27.996
I'm gonna, I'm going email her.
01:23:28.145 --> 01:23:32.525
You know, I have pretty good track record with the writer or author, fan mail.
01:23:32.525 --> 01:23:37.176
Sometimes I've gotten people who have sent me like full extra scenes before.
01:23:37.235 --> 01:23:38.376
They're like, that's amazing.
01:23:38.376 --> 01:23:38.645
How about
01:23:38.689 --> 01:23:38.909
Ooh.
01:23:38.945 --> 01:23:39.907
And I'm like, thank you so much.
01:23:40.041 --> 01:23:40.360
I love this.
01:23:40.360 --> 01:23:41.841
Okay, so you should book writer.
01:23:41.900 --> 01:23:42.605
I'm gonna write Margaret.
01:23:43.105 --> 01:23:44.095
I'll sign up from all of us.
01:23:44.365 --> 01:23:49.365
Margaret, please send extra scenes of Ella and Jed making out.
01:23:49.666 --> 01:23:50.775
Thank you so much.
01:23:51.275 --> 01:23:52.235
Love spoons.
01:23:52.416 --> 01:23:53.855
Honestly, I think I might like it more.
01:23:53.855 --> 01:23:55.956
I think I could, I would really vibe with that.
01:23:56.256 --> 01:23:57.216
I wanna see it.
01:23:57.576 --> 01:24:00.836
I wanna see He comes back, she says.
01:24:01.336 --> 01:24:02.626
I think I do wanna marry you.
01:24:02.716 --> 01:24:03.615
They make out.
01:24:04.065 --> 01:24:08.115
Then there I would read a whole thing about like this war.
01:24:08.416 --> 01:24:09.525
That's what I'm saying.
01:24:09.615 --> 01:24:10.095
Yes.
01:24:10.095 --> 01:24:10.935
Maybe more of that.
01:24:11.086 --> 01:24:12.105
I'm interested in this.
01:24:12.136 --> 01:24:18.195
I think also it's just like not my kind of story as much like it follows like one character so closely.
01:24:18.195 --> 01:24:20.626
There's not a, and I want like as much plot for you.
01:24:20.626 --> 01:24:20.985
I want.
01:24:20.985 --> 01:24:21.315
Yes.
01:24:21.315 --> 01:24:22.095
That's what it is.
01:24:22.155 --> 01:24:23.235
That's, that is what it is.
01:24:23.240 --> 01:24:23.685
That's what it is.
01:24:23.775 --> 01:24:25.456
I am very much a plot girl.
01:24:25.956 --> 01:24:27.126
has never been my speed.
01:24:27.126 --> 01:24:28.746
I always struggle with character driven.
01:24:28.826 --> 01:24:30.536
I'm so plot driven.
01:24:30.565 --> 01:24:30.985
Yeah.
01:24:31.045 --> 01:24:31.734
Listen,
01:24:31.796 --> 01:24:32.725
rare exception.
01:24:32.756 --> 01:24:37.365
I see that for you for this because there is not a ton of plot until the end.
01:24:37.426 --> 01:24:37.815
Yes.
01:24:37.935 --> 01:24:49.454
we tweak your letter to her and instead of saying, please send more scenes, we say We would like your permission to continue writing the story, and the three of us will.
01:24:49.845 --> 01:24:53.685
'cause she took Cinderella and then wrote continued Cinderella.
01:24:53.774 --> 01:24:59.135
And then we'll take just, and we'll write the plot driven, war torn thing with
01:24:59.421 --> 01:25:00.801
not just Ella.
01:25:01.301 --> 01:25:02.860
There's more to Ella.
01:25:03.360 --> 01:25:05.251
And I'll throw a bunch of plot in there.
01:25:05.444 --> 01:25:06.404
exactly.
01:25:06.841 --> 01:25:12.480
this and espionage and we, we'll all combine and we can all have what we want for this sequel.
01:25:12.614 --> 01:25:22.034
Listen, I already, I already had a, um, a proposal for all four of us, uh, Carissa included to, uh, write something together.
01:25:22.215 --> 01:25:24.104
So this will just, we'll start.
01:25:24.104 --> 01:25:24.435
We should do
01:25:24.451 --> 01:25:24.690
This.
01:25:25.051 --> 01:25:27.001
It could be, my gosh, cast around novel.
01:25:27.091 --> 01:25:28.621
Oh, Billy Friday chapter.
01:25:28.740 --> 01:25:30.275
Oh, not just, or something like that.
01:25:30.541 --> 01:25:37.600
Can you imagine though the chaos of like Art Felix, like, I mean, we can't even do the like sentence the chain
01:25:37.645 --> 01:25:38.335
stories.
01:25:38.340 --> 01:25:39.250
The ended stories.
01:25:39.750 --> 01:25:40.560
we can't even do
01:25:40.838 --> 01:25:43.059
No, I sent you guys,
01:25:43.435 --> 01:25:44.484
Your stories are amazing.
01:25:44.984 --> 01:25:48.375
I sent you that book and I never finished my thought about it.
01:25:48.375 --> 01:25:52.664
The Cecilia and the Chocolate Pot or whatever it was, the Enchanted Chocolate Pot.
01:25:53.164 --> 01:25:54.935
That's how that story was written.
01:25:54.965 --> 01:25:59.085
It was two like best friends or something, and they wrote, they.
01:25:59.585 --> 01:26:03.784
Literally mailed like chapters back and forth from their character's point of view.
01:26:04.055 --> 01:26:06.364
And the book is letters to each other.
01:26:06.635 --> 01:26:12.225
And it's a, I loved the book, so I was like, Hmm, you guys, you guys,
01:26:12.621 --> 01:26:13.761
That's so cute.
01:26:14.261 --> 01:26:18.060
can do poor dead queens, but like totally not dead.
01:26:18.150 --> 01:26:19.640
Four alive queens.
01:26:20.140 --> 01:26:22.792
listen, we're we're, this is okay.
01:26:23.002 --> 01:26:23.692
It's happening.
01:26:23.692 --> 01:26:27.582
Just we, we, we gotta tweak the, tweak the ideas here, but
01:26:27.757 --> 01:26:28.172
Yeah, yeah.
01:26:28.172 --> 01:26:28.797
We'll refine it.
01:26:28.858 --> 01:26:29.672
I'm so psyched.
01:26:29.672 --> 01:26:30.603
That'll be awesome.
01:26:31.023 --> 01:26:33.092
Honestly, that sounds like such a blast.
01:26:33.092 --> 01:26:34.113
That sounds so fun.
01:26:34.613 --> 01:26:35.363
Oh, man.
01:26:35.483 --> 01:26:38.228
See, is there anything else about this book that we wanna say?
01:26:38.728 --> 01:26:39.328
I'm good.
01:26:39.631 --> 01:26:40.346
no, we're done.
01:26:40.466 --> 01:26:40.886
It's right away.
01:26:41.386 --> 01:26:41.926
a great same.
01:26:41.926 --> 01:26:42.827
Already done.
01:26:42.917 --> 01:26:43.396
Just kidding.
01:26:43.396 --> 01:26:46.337
I'm glad we read two Cinderella.
01:26:46.396 --> 01:26:46.697
Yes.
01:26:46.846 --> 01:26:47.926
Retellings that we,
01:26:48.426 --> 01:26:51.577
Now we just have to wait for Whis or for Wheezys
01:26:51.592 --> 01:26:52.162
Yeah.
01:26:52.207 --> 01:26:52.567
out.
01:26:52.567 --> 01:26:53.917
And then we'll read hers.
01:26:53.947 --> 01:26:55.176
'cause Yeah, yeah.
01:26:55.313 --> 01:26:56.903
Like mine will be much darker.
01:26:56.903 --> 01:26:58.193
When is it coming out?
01:26:58.222 --> 01:26:58.613
I don't know.
01:26:58.613 --> 01:26:59.752
I have to finish writing it y'all.
01:26:59.796 --> 01:27:00.697
Oh my gosh.
01:27:00.697 --> 01:27:01.806
Finish it.
01:27:02.136 --> 01:27:03.966
What are you even doing anyways?
01:27:04.466 --> 01:27:06.476
I know like not much God, it felt like you're busy.
01:27:06.570 --> 01:27:07.661
just sit around
01:27:08.161 --> 01:27:14.930
I was actually somebody at my job who is absolutely intolerable and I'd case people
01:27:15.005 --> 01:27:15.395
the way.
01:27:15.395 --> 01:27:16.744
I wanna curse that name.
01:27:17.180 --> 01:27:24.070
but like I know if you've ever heard me tell a story about him, you can probably think of his name and it's spoken like a curse word.
01:27:24.506 --> 01:27:25.676
In my home.
01:27:26.206 --> 01:27:28.006
But where was I going with this?
01:27:28.506 --> 01:27:29.046
It's not like you're
01:27:29.289 --> 01:27:30.395
Nothing to do.
01:27:30.605 --> 01:27:35.786
He literally, I hadn't replied to an email in like four hours maybe.
01:27:35.845 --> 01:27:36.865
Oh, heaven forbid.
01:27:36.865 --> 01:27:37.435
I know.
01:27:37.435 --> 01:27:41.636
He, by the way, has never replied to an email ever in my entire time working with him.
01:27:41.845 --> 01:27:42.206
Okay.
01:27:42.706 --> 01:27:50.775
But he literally said, apparently someone that he was working with, who also worked with me, I know this because she told me, he said, what is she doing anyways?
01:27:50.775 --> 01:27:52.126
It's not like she has anything else to do.
01:27:52.626 --> 01:27:56.350
And I was like, for reference, we are very much over capacity.
01:27:56.850 --> 01:27:57.990
She, jeez, Louis,
01:27:58.490 --> 01:28:03.051
and at that time especially, I was like just kind of helping out here and there with stuff he was doing.
01:28:03.261 --> 01:28:05.240
So I was like, yeah, I have nothing else to do.
01:28:05.511 --> 01:28:11.091
That is, you know, that it Wendy Williams or so, but she's like death to all of them.
01:28:11.421 --> 01:28:12.350
That's what I feel about that.
01:28:12.850 --> 01:28:13.121
Yes.
01:28:13.270 --> 01:28:13.541
Clap.
01:28:13.541 --> 01:28:14.890
If you ever wanted to kill somebody
01:28:15.390 --> 01:28:15.680
what?
01:28:16.180 --> 01:28:17.381
clapping my feet as well.
01:28:17.470 --> 01:28:18.070
You like that up?
01:28:18.070 --> 01:28:18.701
It's so funny.
01:28:19.121 --> 01:28:21.990
Death to all of them and they go, oh, anyway.
01:28:22.051 --> 01:28:22.501
But yeah.
01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:23.400
Anyways, yes.
01:28:23.650 --> 01:28:24.490
That was my whole thing.
01:28:24.490 --> 01:28:28.386
Thing's just, I was gonna go into messed Well, I don't even know how I went off on
01:28:28.430 --> 01:28:30.050
So that's Gisella.
01:28:30.050 --> 01:28:30.859
Hope you all loved it.
01:28:30.859 --> 01:28:38.539
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01:28:38.765 --> 01:28:40.626
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01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:41.390
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01:28:41.789 --> 01:28:44.010
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01:28:44.115 --> 01:28:46.365
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01:28:46.365 --> 01:28:48.975
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01:28:48.975 --> 01:28:50.235
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01:28:50.235 --> 01:28:53.565
We're real people and people were concerned last time.
01:28:53.565 --> 01:28:54.496
I understand.
01:28:54.765 --> 01:28:55.926
But we're real now.
01:28:55.926 --> 01:28:56.555
There's proof.
01:28:56.555 --> 01:28:57.426
Now there's proof.
01:28:57.470 --> 01:28:57.890
Oh yeah.
01:28:58.390 --> 01:28:58.600
We're
01:28:58.673 --> 01:28:59.423
And make sure.
01:28:59.619 --> 01:29:03.579
People are coming locally and people are driving and flying across the country for this, so
01:29:03.804 --> 01:29:05.123
Yeah, yeah.
01:29:05.184 --> 01:29:10.413
And make sure you check out our Instagram for bird pictures of spoons holding her birds.
01:29:10.413 --> 01:29:14.314
And I will put my baby hatchlings on there too.
01:29:14.814 --> 01:29:16.314
Oh, I'll be, would love the bird.
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I'm just kidding.
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I won't do that.
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Well no, I won't do that.
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That would be funny.
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Slide to the last slide.
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The last one.
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Actually we should do it.
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Let's do it.
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It send, it just says censored and me giving the bird.
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That's really funny.
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Oh goodness.
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I like clever.
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Give us five stars.
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five stars only.
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Love the comments.
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Follow us on social media.
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We're that pretentious book club if we
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Send us, send us messages and emails.
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me, TPC.
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Yeah, send us messages, emails.
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You can email us at contact@storysirenstudio.com.
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There are all kinds of links.
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You can join our writing group on Facebook.
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It's actually growing quite a bit.
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Hello Kat?
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There's a cat behind Gino.
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It had to be acknowledged.
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Uh, so you guys can use those links.
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Join us.
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Captain Levi was back there earlier too.
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And I took everything in me not to acknowledge him when he walked by.
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Look, it's lith
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Lilith mother of demons,
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Aw, she's perfect and has no flaws at all.
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She jumped in the bin with the baby chicks.
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She jumped in the bin, but because she wanted under the heat lamp, she didn't want the chick she wanted under the heat lamp.
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She was like, get out of the way.
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F
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She really was.
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that's really cute.
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my gosh.
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I feel like there's something else.
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Oh yes, we do.
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We have a couple new merch items.
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One, which is a direct quote from Spoons.
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I love items.
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So Sumie, for all of those out here who are anti minimalists.
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Yeah.
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Join us.
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Join me.
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Join us.
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Yeah.
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Right now it's only'cause I've not fully moved in that it looks minimalistic in here.
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'cause that is not the case.
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This is not indicative of our whole lives, our feelings.
01:30:46.844 --> 01:30:47.173
No.
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And you get
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so sue me.
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you get special merch if you go to the retreat too.
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Yes you do.
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You get exclusive merch that only retreat attendees get and you also get exclusive discounts on stuff that only retreat attendees get.
01:30:59.608 --> 01:31:00.868
So lots of cool stuff.
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And I'll also be offering discounted consulting and editing stuff, so that's cool.
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People can take advantage of if they want while they're there.
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Yeah, lots of super cool stuff.
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I think Gino said that she's gonna maybe put together sort of like a what's in the area if anybody wants to come out earlier, later'cause it's gonna be gorgeous out there.
01:31:18.717 --> 01:31:26.752
And Oh yes, we do have one other merch item that just came out that says, ask me about my TBR on the back at your own risk in parentheses.
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And it has a really pretty bookcase on the front and I'm incredibly proud of it.
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Very
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Oh, ooh,
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check it out and rep it.
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I think it's good.
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if you guys have ideas for merch that you guys wanna see, let us know.
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So, and if you have book recs because we're starting season Oh yeah.
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Book rec.
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yay.
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all the book racks.
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We've not done a lot of classics.
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We could use some more classics.
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I can't believe that I just said that, but we could use some more classics in the mix.
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Anyone have any of the school favorites?
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Your your favorite fairytale retelling.
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Tell us what that one is.
01:31:54.507 --> 01:31:57.778
This is just a fairytale retelling podcast now, honestly, that's fine with me.
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It's my favorite genre perhaps.
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Oh, you know what I wanna read.
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Some more science fiction.
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Why?
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Send us your sci-fi Rex.
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Yeah.
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Sci-fi rex.
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Dystopia Rex.
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I already have our Halloween book picked out.
01:32:10.778 --> 01:32:13.507
Oh, I'm actually reading it currently, so I will be rereading it.
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Okay, great.
01:32:13.988 --> 01:32:14.618
Awesome, Alyssa.
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So, okay.
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I was about to do it and then I was like, oh, I never do it.
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Don't do it,
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oh no, that's it.
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So next time, keep your teac cups full, your pinkies high
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And your book club Pretentious.
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Excellent,
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do the last line.