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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to his very special set of his safety thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd guest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where you not feeling fine before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, listen to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He sounds like he's about to kill over and die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to kill him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm dying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not that many cigarettes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Prove it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How many cigarettes can you smoke?
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[SPEAKER_03]: in one go or one lifetime one go kind of same thing right if you're always smoking is that one go I think the first few others would you rather shit normally or shit all your shit you're ever going to shit in one sitting and never have to shit again all at once I agree with yeah definitely yeah what happened Nigel's dad windows update no
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[SPEAKER_03]: Either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Windows just tried to force update the computer and restart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck Bill Gates.
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[SPEAKER_03]: First you make Windows shitty?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you do stuff on Epstein's Island, but most of all windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Wolf forgive me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you fix it with you can't say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He also can't fix windows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't fix it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's too far gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would definitely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather just plead deal is yes to fix windows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just go to Linux.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like, I really just need to commit to Linux.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, I would shit on my shit at once though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's I would choose that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, now would you eat all of your food at once?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're gonna eat or would you never eat again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I talking about like maybe bulking up to like 4,000 pounds and then losing weight over your life or like a magical Oh, it's like a magical system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah pocket dimension stomach or some shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would do that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because you could just, if you really didn't give a shit, you could just drink like so you could drink imagine if you didn't get full how much like soil and or some meal supplement like liquid yeah you could drink a lot I think you could drink I think if I didn't have if you just like cut off my
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, what the fuck is the tube called between your esophagus?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what the, is the whole tube called esophagus?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the little opening called?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The needum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The butthole, the stomach butthole.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But like the reverse butthole, where food goes into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The needum?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you just like chop your esophagus and like slum that to some magical stomach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In the pocket dimension, I think you could drink.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like how, how many gallons of, of like liquid do you think you could drink in a minute?
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[SPEAKER_03]: would be like it was being filled up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it would basically be like how fast you can fill up your car at the gas station.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, just like, oh, like, if you could buy pastures, swallow your flexibility, like those people that chug up your early fast, because you could probably drink a week's worth of food in a couple of minutes, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you were to straight chugging,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just a bunch of old milk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but what about now there's another layer to this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you ever run out of calories, you just die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no warning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, you don't gain weight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If the pot is dimensioned, you don't lose weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But once you run out of energy, you die.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what happened normally?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We see, oh, you're saying this, but yeah, but there's like no warning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think let the tank go empty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, do that with suck because you don't have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You, you definitely over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is how people end up with like $100 billion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They just like keep eating more and more and more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they like, they don't know what enough is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See, like, overdo it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Overdo like imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you spend all your money on food because you're paranoid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You never exercise because that would like burn too many calories.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I think that I would definitely, I would do all of my shits in one sitting if I could.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How long would that take you then?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That might actually be a huge fucking mistake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you could like do it while you were on a plan or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd go, how long do you normally spend pooping?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can, you can play the fifth, too, even though you're in Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I played the Canadian, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I played the second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: About two minutes no minute.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think so yeah, but like how much of that is actually 20 10 20 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so like if you What do you call that like the phenomenon of like starting and stopping consuming too much like a huge bulk of the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be like stupid, stupid waste of time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, fucking a mistake, a design flaw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you are breaking the seal, doesn't really feel right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, I don't know, no, that doesn't feel right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you, when you're actually going to the bathroom, it's really fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but look at him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's another problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever had that really long?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those are nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, you're like, holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're like, I feel like something's wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like it's the opposite of a lap band.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They like, your bladder got bigger.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it feels like a like a quarter gallon of piss came out of you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have experienced that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone has to have, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not it's like the waking up in the morning, not even like the road trip one though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it doesn't feel like you had to pee that That's the thing it never does and then you just keep going and it's not like a tiny little stream either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like coming out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, like, that could easily be like a 22nd piss or more, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I've pissed for at least 20 seconds before straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that most mammals pee for about 20 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of how big they are, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's science.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's mass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a mass flow rate or the stream dam where I guess or the velocity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What changes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like, you know, an elephant, it's platter is a lot bigger.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's a piece for 20 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's more p. So it's the stream wider or is it fast?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This stream's definitely wider.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You think it's wider and faster, just wider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, just wider, because like, probably wider and in a little faster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the bigger of vessel is the worst.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is a holding pressure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the stresses are bigger on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so you would probably need to have just a bigger diameter and not higher, more muscles to like squeeze it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It'd be, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To equal to come out in the same 22 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I guess what I'm what I'm concerned about, if someone gave me the option to piss for all my pisses, that you would literally be sitting there for days, years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, well, if it's 20 minutes, let's see, what, 20 minutes a day, sorry, 20 seconds a day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're just going to see that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm going to be sitting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're sitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 30 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A day?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was the actual P coming out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Get rid of the star, get rid of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say it's about like three minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You maybe you have two minutes coming out of your penis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, three minutes every day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like five times a day for like half a minute.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I stay hydrated, but you're pissing for 30 seconds every piss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, I feel like I have to go pee and I go, we're doing a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's like, you know, not a lot of comes out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No chance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No chance you're pissing that line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if I walk past the bathroom, I'm like, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: 11 13 11 14 15 16 you're still pissing yeah 18 19 20 I would say two two minutes a day 23 you see now you're going down that 24 2.5 26 depends how much I drink 28 29 30 you do that four times a day
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably if I consolidated all of them, but I definitely have some that are that are that long how about how about for the next 48 hours.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You time how long you pee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I will come back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will next week Okay, so I'm looking at how how long does the average person pee and then just the piss how long the like end stuff does the average like does that do mammals pee for?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm going to do 30 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're just going to say it's 120 seconds to the Kevin pisses and we're going to multiply that by 365 and we're going to divide that by 60 that is 730 minutes a year you spend hissing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That seems right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we how long.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's 12 hours a year you spend pissing so if you wanted to piss all your piss for one year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At that rate, yeah, even if it was half of that now we're actually going to be you're going to be stuck in front of a toilet for literally half a fucking day pissing per I think if you for 12 hours straight the skin cells on the inside of your penis would be destroyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, is that that's a per year?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It would be per year, you'd out at your what you claim to be your piss time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, your piss clock, you would have to piss for 12 hours straight to do a whole year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys know how they're supposed to drink a half gallon of water?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know how the grand canyon was formed, Kevin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nature water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, blowing through my toilet would start to erode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, your penis would
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[SPEAKER_03]: just like why though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, the kidney stones and stuff you have in there slowly wrote the grit, the grit, yeah, the grit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know the grit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So do we want to maybe reconsider our desire to do all your pooping and been entirely time of pooping because I think that might be worse than the being one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody ever disagreed with all the pooping at once.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but imagine for your whole lifetime, because a year would be bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you might actually be stuck on the toilet for like a month.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we're just fucking do the whole goddamn, but that's the, that's the, how many years you plan on living?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I at least have one or two, so maybe this is not a good one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Two retirements.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 68.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Nigel's going to be on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Nigel's going to live till 70.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And right now he's he's turning 40.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's 30 more years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So these are brutal memories.
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[SPEAKER_03]: by 24.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That would be 15 days.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you lived till 70, well, you would have to be pissing probably or shitting for bucking two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's hard to commit to something like that right now, but I think I would be glad that I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You think so?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin, you also you have to you have to commit to the P and poop at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, raging river is gentle streams, would you find that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like some AI shit from National Geographic, Georgia Institute of Technology.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A new study shows that mammals urinate for a remarkably similar length of time regardless of body size and bladder capacity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Blood or volume, four gallons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a great vein.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bison is 5.5 gallons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: African elephant has a 42 gallon bladder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a fucking 50 bucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got to get pushed to the floor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like 400 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't fucking fill your car with gas stuff back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're saying that it also drains at the same rate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they got the empty that in 20 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is a fire hose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what has to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Two gallons of second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do that's actually like probably more force than an S-Day's model rocket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Holy, it's like a pot like a riot water cannon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is 40?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How would you do the math on that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause it's dependent on like the loss and everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But 42 gallons pushing down like whatever like the mass, like the inertia, equivalent of that is pretty fucking big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and especially towards 20 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we do have a massive velocity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially towards the end of that, you know, the elephant's about 400 pounds lighter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you get more of a boost.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, dad, how many?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, that's the tailored done fire truck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is basically like a water rocket.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The elephant can drain its bladder faster than our tailored done fire truck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa, John, like way faster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pulp a video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll have been pissing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Compilation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I told you, veto this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to veto this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I would love to see this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you find?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did just for John Swaring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You little baby elephant takes a massively long P. Well, we have to click on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to, I'm still kind of thirsty right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm extremely parched.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you would, how are you going to quench your thirst?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think just look Roy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe often basically.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have seen horses pee before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's probably Maybe horses are cows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ever seen a horse?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you see horses frequently Nigel?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's an animal you run the side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, not like it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys are like a county fair or something No, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say I see them frequently.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, but like of all the animals that could piss a lot
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we're a horse would be the one you would see or cow, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like somebody turned on a garden house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They'll leave like a nasty muddy puddle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, elephant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a fucking water-made burst.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This elephant is like just pissing all over its feet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remarkably hydrated for being in the dust.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this looping?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is a torrential downpour of your own.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So today you learned.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was not like laminar at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know like you're my at least my pee personally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what's happening on the end.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the what they call the brand of your winner?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Amidas or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like rifled, you know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some sort of magic happens like stops from dealing with the elephant pystrums.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The elephant pystrum looked like, like if you just, I don't know, like, you know when you like take a, like a couple of water and you like pour it out and the water like somehow goes uphill.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, like I feel getting something to like pour out nicely, especially out of like a, you know, a any sort of container is a pin in the butt like you saw the elephant piss if you ever like leaned out a bottle and you spin it as you're pouring it down the drain and like the water spins outwards that's kind of what we got in another.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, more piss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they point it between their legs too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah backwards for like a speed boost Dude, that is like enough piss to like flood the lawn that it's pissing on right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it steaming or just like That's taking up so many bubbles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's definitely steam and like that spot on the grass is going to be muddy for like six hours or longer probably the next 24 hours Wow Like imagine dumping 40 gallons of water on your lawn
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, I think there's some interesting fluid dynamic problem on why an elephant's piss You can try to salvage this segment however you want, but It's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I just that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is an educational smart podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a science podcast where we Right if it because okay, if you were gone pee and it didn't it wasn't like a nice stream You ever had a pee that would have been like you're if you peed like that all the time your mom would have made you sit down on the toilet to pee Yeah, yeah, those are rare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What how why does that happen?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What sort of fluid dynamics explanation is there there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sometimes you get a like a kink in the line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Towards the tip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you ever have the split?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, just get stuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes your lips, if you just like keep them closed, they kind of made it here, like a protein glue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nigel, just about your peers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're awfully quiet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you need to fucking open your mouth and share your experience with the rest of the life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just absorbing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell us about your pace.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever pissed on the side of the toilet when you were aiming forwards in straight?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have pretty good aim.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay, you know what I'm, you, you, you got a sniper here, fucker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the aim.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, the scope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, you know, it's a line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know who is, you know who is a sniper?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How, what makes you say that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you, you know what Kevin does?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like, from a mile away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 13 feet from the toilet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's a sniper once he'd fucking makes it to the target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more of like an area of a fact kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, yeah, I can't see through volume.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I do, I could.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He obliterates his target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to pinch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm casual too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not all bladder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, Nigel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, talk, Nigel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm listening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell us about you and your peeing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God, fucking nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever had a split stream when you peed?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You, they don't even have the fifth amendment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever, um.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, think what are other paying experiences when you said about it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just come up between the two of them just, yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever come up with a silent, well, actually, it's moves on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're going, we're doubling down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever put on the toilet and then the water splash on your butt?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I, if you were to ask, I mean, if you are asking me that,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it has to have happened, but I can't think of a time that it has, how can you, that's like a traumatizing experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What, Poseidon's kiss?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, especially on like a part of body.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's where it happens the most frequently to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying it, I was saying it probably has happened, but it's not like this memory in my mind where it's like, I can remember the, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the answer to trauma is like a memory that you don't remember, but your body, like, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now every time you go to the bathroom and like a public place, you cover the top of the water with toilet paper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you like stand on the toilet or squat over it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get away really quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You sit on the toilet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You sit on the toilet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You sit on the toilet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I climb on the wall of the stall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I go into one stall and then I hang my ass over these edges.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As I was just laying back in the ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you're not going to share your stories with the class about how you get piss all over the floor and typically your penis sometimes is laminar and sometimes is, um, uh, not what are they, um, fucking what's that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the opposite?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or a violent turbulent flow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to share with a class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Torturous turbulent flow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What if this is like always split?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just don't talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: permanently split.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, okay, yes, you've seen like just like the studies, like the kind of what you would say or like a gross study, you don't want to talk about where you're like, wow, why did somebody do that study?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like someone's definitely done a study on this about the, you know, whatever evolution of being.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure what do you mean I'm just saying a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, like what are you saying I'm just saying like why can why do we get to stand in P and why does our peak come out in like a stream and then the elephant's peak comes out is great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think girls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Peel like a like the elephant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know sounds like a horse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just assuming John can you Google that do girls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Peel like elephants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, or just say do girls.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Peel like boys or is it more like a spray bottle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, see I'm not this is I'm asking real questions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, and there are real answers like I don't I why is everyone so afraid of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean standing to pee It's tactical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know girls have to like sit if this sit is horrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I had to sit every time I went pee I would go pee way less.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would invent something where I could just stand I would I would definitely do all my pee in one sitting I would definitely say yes Do we have an answer on the spray bottle question?
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[SPEAKER_03]: on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you didn't take me seriously?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you're typing now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have another a P related quest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I stopped that we can get to after this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first, I want to know the answer to this question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't teach a shit in schools.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why
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[SPEAKER_03]: By, yeah, you're in flown females is generally a single focus stream similar to males.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The direction can be harder to control, okay, that makes sense without practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I always hear it girls say that it's hard to control and you can't pee standing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, there's got to be a way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The perception of spray, let's go back, I'm still reading.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The perception of spray or wider less controlled stream is due to the anatomy of a urethra, and not being projecting or getting like a penis, which can cause stream to splash.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, this Google AI over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's a way where you could do it standing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think that girls are ready for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not ready for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: John said there's things that help and then you didn't see anything else after he said that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know there's devices that you can have when you're can't like bring with you when you're kind of like an oil funnel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like, okay, so John found a thing on eBay for $6 that looks like you get six of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're disposable that it gives you, uh, it's like, wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, hey, fully understand this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a funnel and the kind of turns you're you get a it gives you a weiner But it's like silicone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not it just looks like a funnel for your car.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of cool, too Because you could like actually use it to fill your car with oil and an emergency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it still comes out really easily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah All right, okay, what's your tangent?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Nigel will and I got the neotame that we were talking about and it is, uh, why, why don't you just tell them how sweet it is it's like, it's like, um, it's like, I felt like a kid you know the videos are like a baby looking lemon for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I felt like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like I had a a number of like neuron activations in my head.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I have not had that I think, you know, I don't really know what hard drugs feel like because I think they're really bad and we'll make your life horrible if you think if you do them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I can imagine that that is an experience that is hard to replicate where, like he's chasing the draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like an, I mean, I don't even think I would try doing it, but it's like an overwhelming amount of stimulation in a way that you've like never experienced before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Neo tame is an artificial sweetener and Nigel told us about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we were trying to find sweeteners for the soda and it is the sweetest chemical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they've currently discovered.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what even does sweet mean at this point anymore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is it like, it's like, that's how potent it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You only need to small amount to like activate, like saturate all of your, your sweetness taste buds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How does it, so it's, is it like sugar just like the molecules are too big or something?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so you can only fit so many of them on receptors or the new team is better at like, maxing out receptors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You also need, you need to upgrade to add vantame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that another one that's even sweeter?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might, it's up to twice as sweet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that the new team was, is like, genuinely a, um, but how do I say, I don't want to say hazard, but like, they're definitely is like some level of like, I don't know, that, what's, what's, it's not biohazard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, if we were working in an anthrax lab, we would all be dead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, a hundred, like the protocol required for dealing with something like a neotame, probably like actually has to be on the level of somewhere in the ballpark of like an anthrax lab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were like working in a food processing facility, you would have to do the neotames step like in a different building or it would like cover every day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That box that we have will never be opened indoors ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's almost 13,000 times as potent as sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you tasted yours yet?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You should lick the outside of the bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't even lick it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just touch your finger on the bag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then look your finger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like, I think the dose is one milligrams is the same as two tablespoons of sugar in your mouth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by God, they are not lying, Nigel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, you, you like, you, sorry you had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a undescribable experience to not just like taste the level of sweetness, but like the ways that it ended up in our mouth when we opened it, like breathing it in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: even though light rays bouncing off of the neotam or sweet and they hit you you just have to look at it with your tongue duck out and you can taste sweetness it's like actually that's like it's like it on it okay here's maybe the best way I could describe it have you ever seen the experiment where you like put that UV die on your hands and then you wash your hands to show you how bad you wash your hands
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what Neo Team Neo Team feels like it feels like a weird like very easy to detect thing to oh There's the other one I found it's a flavor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the banana flavor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do they call that the not the the Amal acetate acetate something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I think it's that they they sell it when I was looking for these flavors They sell it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what they use it for?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have an idea?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, leaked detectives in AC PPE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they use artificial banana, like sent, like that's the, you know, the main scent of banana, like the synthesized main scent of it to detect leaks in PPE, like gas masks and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I was looking for it and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is it so available?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why is it available?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, why am I seeing like a kit?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what the fuck is this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I, you know, I'm like researching it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it just, I guess it happens to be like a very strong, very potent smell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's very easy to differentiate between things in your environment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so it just is the thing that they use for detecting leaks in masks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and it feels like neotame has to be like one of those things like a die, like a UV die for an anthrax lab.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like yeah, like you can use it to test how safe you're being, uh, uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you just go home at the end of the day, you lick your hand and be like, oh, it's sweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you better start taking antibiotics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like crazy, crazy sweet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very unique.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a very very unique experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But did it have like a weird afternoon?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it tasted like probably of all the sweeteners the best Yeah, and then what was liquid?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The gross tasted good, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a silica rose super liquid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Super loose and you know, super loose is actually yeah, it tastes pretty decent the ass flame one the potassium ass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that was fucking hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was that was raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So was the monk fruit in a monk fruit when it was a bit much too
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Aspertame is like fucking just it is what it is The new attempt really was like it felt like one of those things that it's not used a lot because maybe it's new or and people just are sticking to the old sweeteners That are like already a part of the flavor of the recipes that people like because it genuinely does feel like a superior sweeten
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely a lot less product that you need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we could like dose the entire United States or like a million so does with one pound of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If the truck that would that delivered the neotam to us, gone to a crash or like the plane that was carrying got no crash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the like the people on site would taste it in the air you would taste it in the ground water Yes, for centuries like it is so fucking potent that it feels almost like Imagine when you bought your laser like a class for laser it feels like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, oh yeah, just maybe I shouldn't be able to buy something like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I put some on my hand, because I wanted to see if it soaked in through my skin, would I be able to taste it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, I only put a tiny amount, maybe like three or four grains of this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I couldn't taste it, but I washed my hands later, and I looked my hand and it was sweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I washed my hand again with soap and water, and hot water, and I scrubbed it even longer,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but no, no, just isn't it, but it was like in my skin, yeah, like in my It's like alive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was able to pull it out better than I thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's like still in my my Dutch skin layer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if Now that we like haven't had a bunch of sweeteners in our mouth that you could you could taste it sort of like after like a fast If you put it on your skin like some ethanol or something
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to try it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We should try it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we did do it in a video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to open that fucking background now, um, but I was so I've been we did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You see we did our pocket soda kickstarter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We moved it off of eBay and put a kickstarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what is that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my fucking god.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We launched a Kickstarter campaign.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How did you never even mention this because we did it in 24 hours we built it on Friday We launched it on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that explains why you never mentioned it so we have to make at this point it's it looks like we've to make 6,000 soda packet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, total.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, like certain, certain packets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I started doing the math last night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like ordering stuff in bowl.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when I say bulk, I mean, let me tell you something magical about beverages, artificially flavored beverages.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The ingredients used for something like
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[SPEAKER_03]: like actually nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the bulk of that ingredient list is sugar and water.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The acids that you use are basically nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The flavors that you use are basically nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's two liters of phosphoric acid in 10,000 servings of Coca-Cola.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, or sorry, two leaders of 85% and there is about 400 kilograms of sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in 10,000 surveys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is crazy to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like almost 1,000 pounds or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's like a lot of shows.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's entirely sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The flavor oils are like basically a half of a can for that number of surveys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like 0.002% or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm ordering ingredients yesterday and I'm like, oh my god, this is like we have to fill your truck up with figure like that's the most expensive part of all of this yeah, and do you know what we have that's 13,000 times we didn't
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I know and so then I'm looking in the coloring too, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the caramel color I think is just kind of a unique thing, but I looked at food coloring as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you always hear like red for you, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then I'm like, I was on the website where I was buying the caramel color from and I'm like, what if I buy the other colors here too?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm paying for shipping and I might as well just pay one shipping.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm like, okay, like, well, what are these?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are these colors?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what is a leaf green versus, you know, rad?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so then I look at the data sheet or the material sheet, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, oh, red 40 and yellow 5 or 6 and blue 2.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, okay, they're just using the colors that you read on the back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, what if we just like go straight to that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So then I ordered a bunch of straight up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Red dye number 40 red 4.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love red dye number 40 and red 3 apparently is carcinogenics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not buy that But it must not really be because they like I do don't even know how to say more and so I'm like I'm sitting You're looking at all this stuff and I'm like you only need like a pinch of all of these things
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's just sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if you use artificial sweetener, like, I guess what I'm trying to say is like when you get to, um, like a can of diet coke, yeah, it's actually cheaper for them to make a can of fucking diet coke and it costs the same.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it costs exactly the same, but it's actually even less money in ingredients, less money in transportation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, for us, like the bulk of the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, one of the experiments I did is like adding water to sugar to figure out like how much fucking sugar can you put into the water before you start having problems, whatever that means.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the, it's, it's a shit time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think right now, the syrup I have is like 930 grams of sugar to like 400 grams of water and you can get that down to like 300 grams of water like the sugar starts to crystallize if it's really hot you can get more and there but like it starts to then crystallize out after a while.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And which obviously don't want if you want people just mix it together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, like, okay, well, how much does the volume of sugar in, like, how much does the volume of that solution increase as you add sugar?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see you have, like, 400 milliliters of water.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Add 900 grams of sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: like what happens to the volume?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the sugar just doesn't disappear into the water.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like the volume like triples, it's not exactly, but it gets, you know, essentially, you like add the two together kind of this is the ballpark.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if you now don't have that, and you use an artificial sweetener or reduce your sugar, you now have reduced the volume of your syrup, which means less packaging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: less shipping cost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That means it'll mix easier in the drink.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, like I'm I'm like I'm actually sitting here I'm like this is why they don't use fucking fruit juice in soda because like I bought some white grape juice concentrate for more experiments I'm just like fully fucking drink pulled right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and like you the fucking box is like the size of I don't know like a magic the gathering Fucking 12 booster pack Yeah, okay, and it constant it like will reconstitute into one gallon of grape juice
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, it's volume, like, meatballs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like, it's a four or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you're like, okay, if you wanted to make something that had grape use in it, now you'd have to have not just like, here's flavors plus water, like a fucking 10% like you would need like 30 milliliters of juice to get 10% juice in a drink, which then in concentrate, you need like, like, like 10 milliliters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and 10 milliliters is fucking enormous compared to every other goddam ingredient in soda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you that's already kind of pushing what the packet machine can handle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but also like when you're paying for a bottle of soda, you're paying like $3 for a bottle of soda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like it's homeopathic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's straight up homeopathy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's a fucking horseshit how little of anything is in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the only thing you're actually tasting is the acid and the sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently Coca-Cola has been sued in the past for not listing phosphoric acid as like a preservative and artificial flavor because it quite literally is or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's some something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just I was like fully reading into this last night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there are issues like I don't know why people would get mad at them for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But like phosphoric acid is quite literally being used as like a preservative and artificial flavor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that if you just had boss work acid and caramel color, yeah, it would be it's like 95% of the way towards Coca-Cola.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I Chelsea bought me some of for the holidays.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I still going through some Hershey's kisses that are like the, what are the cherries would the like the sea cherries?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Merchino cherries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Merchino cherries, chocolate, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, but there's no cherries in them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just obviously, there's a syrup.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and I wouldn't, yeah, well, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you know what it actually is, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it's just sugar, plot or corn syrup, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Plus, you know, like artificial flavors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like eight one and I like plug my nose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it tastes like nothing, really, because you are saying that the cherry flavor is mostly a small thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all smell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, and so I like the more I've been doing these experiments, I'm like, oh my god, you, when you drink a can of Coke, what you're tasting is the sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're tasting the acid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and maybe the caramel color a little.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the caramel color isn't just color.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like actually made with burnt sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is probably like one of the most interesting conclusions I've come to in a very long time is that when you are buying one of these things, you're essentially buying nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you buy a can of Diet Coke, you are essentially buying nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the most expensive part, the can and the fizzy water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably more dissolved carbon dioxide in the water than everything else could find.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially if you start using the new tame, like the equivalent of 37 grams of sugar, like what's 37 grams divided by 13,000?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're talking like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: you would you would just like dust on a table like every ingredient in that fucking can accept the water is dust on a table that you would like see it and be like oh this is trash and you wipe it away mm-hmm like the only thing the only people that pay attention that kind of dust are like you know like a little jewelry studio with their gold yeah all right 37 divided by 13000
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think we don't have a fucking scale like you measure that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you'd have to, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Measure 100 grams and then like dilute it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To get close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just think that's very interesting that very interesting conclusion about consumerism is like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but anyway, I was wondering if I ate that would make my P taste sweet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that's how we got here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can that you've been waiting to ask?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you know, I just like let it ride.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This unfortunately is like one of the few experiments that we probably can't actually do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think your P could taste definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I could do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are we going to?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, are we worried about the P we're going to lose any credibility?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are we going to gain credibility for that kind of an experiment?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people would like to respect it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe you have to, maybe you have to, maybe my tears wouldn't allow you to see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know they say you could cure cancer, but you fuck one goat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I think you're pissed once until everyone it happens on accident.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what if I just forget to wash my hands?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that's how stuff is discovered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You pee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You eat something and then you pee and you forget to wash your hands and then you like pick your nose or like your two on my pisses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think my finger tastes really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: These are tasted for diabetes, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right up with drink piss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the term diabetes mellitus mellitus refers to the sweetness, which refers to the P. Imagine just being like really happy to go to work because you get to drink piss all day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what would stop your piss from tasting because you know the next question is what your shit tastes we do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would it melt the salt to answer to comment on like the P tasting sweet?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my assumption, you know, this is all theoretical and experimental.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And though generally you don't pee out sugar, your body regulates it like crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously you mentioned with diabetes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you start tasting sugar in your pee,
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[SPEAKER_02]: indicates a pretty strong problem that you're having because your body is not being able to hold on to sugar or like getting rid of it for some reason, but.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do know that there is a problem or a thing that people have talked about with aspirate and other artificial sweeteners just kind of being paid out and then getting into the world I guess this is like entropy to do with the world just becomes sweet over time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you just something has to break it down and your body
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[SPEAKER_02]: is only kind of looking out for, you know, sugar, proper sugar, not those chemicals that you just perceive as sweet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that you almost guaranteed will pee it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go on the fact that you pee out other artificial sweeteners, but it's so potent that I think you might taste it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas it's maybe the amount of aspirate you pee out is not potent enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you consumed like maybe a bit too much or you like fill the new team cap a pill up with the new team and you've followed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be too much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like your piss would actually be like disgustingly sweet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if you'd be the first one who dies of sweetness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would any, it's like a new, it's like a new bodily condition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those many neurons weren't meant to fire in your brain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It actually causes a seizure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just get diabetes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you know, like the, instantly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The pineapple theory, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like a diabetes vibes that they invent just for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's up Pineapple?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Incidentally, you read the pineapple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was my next question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The pineapple thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know the pineapple thing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nigel?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to explain it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pineapple can make things taste like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what about what about Neil?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we should, that's another kickstarter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm saying is like, there's some crazy shit people spend money on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if we're going like this to make money as much money as possible, I think we could.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Make that money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I don't know the medical repercussions of consuming, you know, that much neotem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who knows what's in gas station dick pills anyway?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're taking that gamble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just a theory.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do we test that one?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you have any ideas, they would comment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, that's that's uh, that's uh, that's been our experiment as of recent artificial wheat nars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I, I really would like to make a version of a soda that has basically nothing in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, homeopathic soda or at least paint the picture.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know when it's like, you got 37 grams of sugar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is what it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the idea of, oh, this is what you're paying for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're paying for all this water and then just like a fuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get like one of those little centrifuge vials.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like a tiny little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Any tiny tiny little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, the, whatever, the great, this, it is, you know, is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: More profit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: More profit for the shareholders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, I even looked at like beat juice and stuff for like artificial, like, not use artificial play versus to kind of experiment with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, that you just can't compete.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know that, uh, red die 40 is like a petroleum by a product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You like glycerin is like, I think glycerin is a petroleum by product, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think almost everything, so much stuff is, but.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or like a diesel pipe or a biodiesel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, biodiesel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, yeah, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's like, take all these things that are left over after like industrial manufacturing and like energy and then we just fucking eat them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: energy for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Energy for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why don't we can't go to the final line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't God great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He makes energy for our cars and then we can turn it into energy for two and flavors and colors Universes magic trickle down trickle down petronomics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and color.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it all comes from oil oil all oil explain that scientists
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[SPEAKER_00]: What if you made a soda that's the uh, uh, maximum daily allowable intake of red die number 40 and it's just called red die number 40.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Red, red die 40 of a giant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I so one of the things I'm curious about is I can taste I think I can taste red 40 is like kind of soapy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I definitely were going to we're going to have some fun when those fill up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought I could taste as per tame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once I actually tasted it, I'm like, oh, yeah, that definitely is how to pretend that I'm tasting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a bunk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just a little metallic kind of like, yeah, but just an all like you just spit down on an aspirin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a nice tasting aspirin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm trying to figure out like how we're going to package everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys, when you guys said your knives, you just let DFTBA fill those, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: For your bottle opener, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, we have them being made by some people, and then they shipped them to DFTV in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're making a huge fucking mistake over here trying to fulfill everything ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to rob it, dammit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you should just call the local place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: With a $2,500 minimum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if we get the machine working, the Satcha machine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see our Satcha machine angel?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have not seen anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know like catch up packets?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that machine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You like, you like, vaguely talked about it before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so it's a ketchup packet making machine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We bought on eBay, the world's worst fucking website, and it, hey, it, uh, it's, Kevin's been tinkering it while I've been putting stuff into packages and shipping it, and it, like, just won't fucking reliably seal the packages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like rocket science.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not a lot going on because it's literally just like two to like keep presses that clamp and then rollers that pull the plastic down after it's clamped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You remember open source 3D printing 0.0?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You had to like adjust the screws on the corner of the bed to level it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is what this is actually it's like a geometry problem you have to get the film to enter like at the right angle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you don't you need the wheels to only grab on to I think like the edge of the packet so that bites into too much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, actually it's like shreds it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It shreds it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It pulls by the only sachet machine available within like a hundred mile radius.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sachit, look up Sachit packing machine or Sachit machine or go to go to Google type in Kickstarter pocket soda and scroll to the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like it soda by William Osmond too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What person funded is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait!
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you checked it recently?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what do you mean recently?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like today?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fifty, fifty, four thousand dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, this morning was thirty-three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They said, it's what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was at Canadian?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It said, Oh, Canadian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was like, what the fuck happened?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, you guys, you guys for upset.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've so much more than we have to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, keep go down more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, go up again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, that's the statute machine down with all the mouse traps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We so we made this whole Kickstarter campaign in straight up like 24 hours.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, so that's the machine, it basically takes a spool of film from the top feeds it down and there's like these like L clamps that are on a big, like cam mechanism and they like close and they're hot and they melt the plastic so it forms the bottom and the side and then it lowers down to the next one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seals the bottom and then the top of the previous and there's a pneumatic blade to cut them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's because the wheels that spin that pull the wheel is underneath the heat ceiling part.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the plastic is still hot when it goes through these wheels that are nerled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think what actually seals the plastic is the clamp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that the wheels are just for pulling it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just chewing through the plastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's chewing through the plastic, because if it's too hot, it just like calms out and starts to try pulling it by hand and it's too heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It worked great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It worked fine if I do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's just the wheels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the wheels.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so we just got to unfuck the wheels.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll just 3D print some wheels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm making my rubber.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I might work totally well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or it's going to be totally fucked enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they should have like a little rubber like a rubber drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think that the metal does anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like what's the fucking point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just pokes little tiny holes in the bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like the machine can supposedly package it like one packet a second, like it goes like this as soon as we get to sort of pretty pretty fast chugs along and so we did the math and it's like actually only a couple hours of the machine running straight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the fulfillment is the worst part.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they like the basically they cost nothing to make the syrup a cost nothing to package the fucking thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like putting it in a bag and loving a ship a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but a few thousand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, enveloping rough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but then I was also like the more I'm thinking about this and like, okay, so obviously there's like a whole history like food right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I, like, I don't really have too many concerns because the sugar content of this is so high that the sugar is like trying to crystallize out what how many things can live in that environment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't think anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like basically nothing, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but still, is there some sort of requirement, like if you're using the artificial swaners, you just reduce like right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So now you can have to then I'm like, I was looking to preservatives last night and I think it was, uh, I'll show what are they can't remember what they're called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the HT or be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: there was one that is like kind of problematic when apparently mixed with the trick acid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I bought some last night something like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't there like sodium bends away?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So look, sodium bends and I think it is the potassium sorbet apparently can like fucks with like molds and yeast and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then that one's pretty safe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The other one
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[SPEAKER_03]: apparently can make like benzene.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you mix it with certain acids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Vitamin C and citric acid or an acid, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like with the vitamin C is like a catalyst or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, benzene's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and like how much benzene would it be making?
53:41.208 --> 53:42.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like non.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you probably only look like less than a mill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like almost nothing in there.
53:47.212 --> 53:52.575
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, like the more the more research I do and this the more scared I am of like everything in the world.
53:53.195 --> 53:57.357
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, like, oh, god, there's no way, you know, because like how are people figuring this shit out, right?
53:57.397 --> 54:00.558
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, this like here, this will like kill that acts as a preservative.
54:00.638 --> 54:04.000
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that, and they put it together now, you've got like fucking, you know, cancer soda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're exactly like, like, all, every new product that comes out, I, I just, I think that we all take for granted, and assume that the team of people that made it is like a lot smarter than they actually are, or that they care more than they actually do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like 10 years later, they're gonna, you're gonna find out everybody that drink this drink.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not our drink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody, uh, maybe the type of man that you've been eating.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It even gives women to stay cancer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I, I, uh, yeah, I don't know, you know, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it
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[SPEAKER_00]: you can't prove that.
54:49.398 --> 54:50.079
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't prove that.
54:50.879 --> 54:55.964
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think that I was trying to convince Kevin to do a kick set earlier and I'd have you considered doing a kick set of campaign.
54:58.306 --> 55:03.730
[SPEAKER_03]: Or you just want to make a product and you sell it without doing a kick set of campaign.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not really right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always wanted to do one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I want to do it.
55:17.354 --> 55:21.797
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to, I think, I think it's something that I would like to do more of because just making it think it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm not addicted.
55:23.218 --> 55:28.301
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think that like making something and selling it is like, it's like kind of boring.
55:28.341 --> 55:32.985
[SPEAKER_03]: There's something fun about like the openness of like, hey, here's the thing we're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like be a part of it.
55:35.046 --> 55:36.887
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's kind of like a one time thing.
55:36.967 --> 55:38.568
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like it's more of an experience.
55:38.649 --> 55:39.949
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's an idea I want to do.
55:40.590 --> 55:45.513
[SPEAKER_00]: It won't be worth it, you know, for me to like try to test out and see if people do this or like sign up if you want it,
55:46.634 --> 55:49.955
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm literally no intentions of starting a fucking soda business.
55:49.975 --> 55:52.496
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like a one-time, I don't know, it's an art project, what is it?
55:52.796 --> 55:53.997
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's performance.
55:54.577 --> 55:57.438
[SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, it's cool.
55:57.858 --> 56:01.800
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like, I don't know, something like Kevin to do when I think Kevin should do one, too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You do it in the second channel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you free marketing, I only wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, that was a pretty good idea, a pretty easy idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my idea, do I say what you're dealing with any?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's one right there.
56:13.946 --> 56:21.389
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my idea was for Kevin to do like the world's cheapest Kickstarter campaign and do the the lock pit.
56:21.449 --> 56:22.850
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the wallet lock fix that.
56:23.150 --> 56:25.652
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, because you could flat rate ship this for like nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In an envelope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In an envelope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, there's a point where you just get like a small cardboard envelope they sell.
56:32.835 --> 56:35.957
[SPEAKER_03]: And the most expensive part is like it's just flat rate.
56:35.977 --> 56:38.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the envelope can't get any smaller because it's a problem.
56:38.558 --> 56:42.840
[SPEAKER_00]: you're not supposed to put stuff that doesn't bend in an envelope, but the cardboard ones are fine.
56:42.880 --> 56:43.761
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this would be fine.
56:43.861 --> 56:44.521
[SPEAKER_03]: Totally fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually credit cards.
56:46.062 --> 56:47.123
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not a paper envelope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The cardboard ones, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You might need to exit through.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like a, they're like less than a dollar to ship, though.
56:52.026 --> 56:56.308
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, I think that, you know, when you go and kickstart, you're like, oh, I already got a paper, you know.
56:56.508 --> 56:57.569
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, some little thing.
56:57.589 --> 57:00.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have something like, and then you're like, oh, hey, look at that.
57:00.871 --> 57:06.375
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because even that's like, you know, a shipping shit, like what I've, you know, learned a lot about a lot of things in the past couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like six dollars minimum to ship something across the country.
57:08.837 --> 57:11.539
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you guys ever filled stuff yourself, Nigel?
57:13.160 --> 57:14.441
[SPEAKER_02]: I did early on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:15.102 --> 57:17.423
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I learned that I never want to do it again.
57:17.844 --> 57:18.304
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty bad.
57:19.813 --> 57:21.415
[SPEAKER_02]: it's so much packaging.
57:21.435 --> 57:21.635
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:21.815 --> 57:23.296
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I would spend hours doing it.
57:23.356 --> 57:23.777
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
57:24.237 --> 57:35.828
[SPEAKER_03]: It's I think that yeah, no, it's not it's not worth I think it's great for, you know, the story of it, but bad for your if you're actually having to do it yourself.
57:35.868 --> 57:38.569
[SPEAKER_00]: shipping something is one of those things like you're talking about with pooping.
57:38.589 --> 57:50.032
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, first you got to sit down, then the pooping is quick, but it's like all of the like printing out labels, writing like getting return average of this, then making sure it goes in the right box, getting the tracking number, if you bought it.
57:50.092 --> 57:51.212
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes forever.
57:51.252 --> 57:57.394
[SPEAKER_03]: If you bought something from our garage sale, we, oh yeah, I'll talk about fucking eBay.
57:58.114 --> 58:01.297
[SPEAKER_03]: uh, took a picture and made a certificate for every single thing that got stolen.
58:01.317 --> 58:09.323
[SPEAKER_03]: So like trying to make sure that like the track, the shipping label, stuck with the item, and stuck because the shipping label doesn't say what the fuck is in there.
58:09.964 --> 58:10.184
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
58:10.424 --> 58:16.409
[SPEAKER_03]: And so you, you have to like make sure that they get like tied together, because it's lost and you have to circle like searching for the order.
58:16.469 --> 58:17.430
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a huge pain in the butt.
58:18.130 --> 58:21.433
[SPEAKER_03]: And like eBay is not as built like different in a bad way.
58:21.453 --> 58:26.137
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's really genuinely one of the most fucking horrendous experiences I've ever had doing something.
58:27.197 --> 58:36.662
[SPEAKER_03]: the full eBay like blow up was, I don't know if you like saw any of this natural, but but I listed, I listed a bunch of stuff on eBay.
58:36.682 --> 58:42.424
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we're like a hundred listings of just individual items like old Michael Reeves old clothes and shit like that.
58:43.205 --> 58:46.786
[SPEAKER_03]: Kevin made some lists and listed some stuff too, like the lead sponge, but obviously the tools.
58:47.347 --> 58:53.810
[SPEAKER_03]: And they, everything was going fine, but the count, the count is old, but it hasn't been selling stuff.
58:54.931 --> 59:10.996
[SPEAKER_03]: I just used to buy shit and the first thing that happened was within like 24 hours or a little more than 24 hours They took down the soda listing even though it was listed under lab chemicals and I think it was found because of like the word Blavers my guess.
59:11.016 --> 59:13.197
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like the only word in there that was like indicative.
59:13.217 --> 59:15.518
[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't say anything Didn't say it wasn't for human consumption.
59:15.558 --> 59:17.198
[SPEAKER_03]: It just said Blavers.
59:17.218 --> 59:21.320
[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't say anything about eating or consuming
59:22.380 --> 59:27.703
[SPEAKER_03]: and so I'm like, oh, shit, they marked it for food and what they told me was that it didn't have an expiration date.
59:29.844 --> 59:30.264
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
59:30.364 --> 59:31.225
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was the problem.
59:31.245 --> 59:34.807
[SPEAKER_03]: So they, and like all of this is like pretty tame, right?
59:34.827 --> 59:35.507
[SPEAKER_03]: Like sure whatever.
59:35.867 --> 59:41.030
[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is that eBay gives you limited inventory to list stuff.
59:41.390 --> 59:44.612
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is why I would like never run a business on eBay if I could avoid it.
59:44.952 --> 59:47.232
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a monetary cap on the value of your listing.
59:47.252 --> 59:49.853
[SPEAKER_03]: Because only list $50,000 worth of things.
59:49.953 --> 59:58.054
[SPEAKER_03]: And that includes, by it now prices, that includes the quantity of an item that has to buy it now times the price.
59:58.094 --> 01:00:05.536
[SPEAKER_03]: And so if you list something for $20, and you say you have a thousand of them, the eBay saying you're listing $20,000 for the merchandise.
01:00:05.576 --> 01:00:07.836
[SPEAKER_03]: And the cap was $50,000 for me.
01:00:08.216 --> 01:00:10.557
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that must be for like your account or something.
01:00:10.577 --> 01:00:11.577
[SPEAKER_03]: For my account, yeah.
01:00:12.373 --> 01:00:13.854
[SPEAKER_02]: They must be a way to raise it higher.
01:00:14.035 --> 01:00:15.556
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they just have to like trust you.
01:00:16.116 --> 01:00:25.565
[SPEAKER_03]: But someone was telling me that apparently like they know people that run bigger eBay businesses and they'll have to have they like three accounts because each account is like maxed out with eBay and they won't weigh them.
01:00:25.905 --> 01:00:30.068
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes so much sense because I've seen what looks like the same business on eBay.
01:00:30.269 --> 01:00:32.931
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like the pictures on these listings are the same.
01:00:33.011 --> 01:00:34.913
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but there are three different stores like what's up.
01:00:34.933 --> 01:00:36.034
[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought it was a scam.
01:00:36.534 --> 01:00:39.817
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's probably just so they can get around the these stupidity rules.
01:00:39.857 --> 01:00:47.262
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen a movie like a Indiana Jones movie where there's like some ancient technology and it like fucking starts up somehow even though like the civilization.
01:00:47.282 --> 01:00:56.388
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fucking even like they're walking to a spaceship and they like put their hand down in it turns on it turns on like it's like the every employee that works at eBay left.
01:00:56.868 --> 01:00:58.789
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like the building is empty.
01:00:58.829 --> 01:01:06.171
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a server room with spiders and it like just it just fucking like cruises.
01:01:06.331 --> 01:01:10.252
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like it's degrading over time slowly, but it's still functions.
01:01:10.552 --> 01:01:16.994
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a cargo called you know, they don't walk past the door with a coffee in their hand because last time they did that machine went nobody knows.
01:01:17.054 --> 01:01:17.954
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody works.
01:01:18.314 --> 01:01:19.114
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a religion.
01:01:19.254 --> 01:01:21.875
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, don't like to go anger the fucking gods.
01:01:22.475 --> 01:01:25.376
[SPEAKER_03]: And so they delete the soda listing, right?
01:01:25.396 --> 01:01:27.116
[SPEAKER_03]: So they take out and I think I had put like 25 on.
01:01:27.236 --> 01:01:31.157
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even remember I put something on there, like 2000, like orders.
01:01:31.237 --> 01:01:34.157
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was just like, oh, sure, I'll just put, like, it doesn't cost me anything.
01:01:34.177 --> 01:01:35.157
[SPEAKER_03]: I just say that there's as many.
01:01:35.857 --> 01:01:39.318
[SPEAKER_03]: And so they take the fucking listing down and they don't give me the inventory back.
01:01:40.498 --> 01:01:41.638
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I can't relist it.
01:01:41.738 --> 01:01:47.900
[SPEAKER_03]: And so now I'm like at my max inventory and I can't put the soda back up with an expiration date on it.
01:01:48.680 --> 01:01:50.140
[SPEAKER_03]: And so basically we're just like fuck.
01:01:51.338 --> 01:02:00.931
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the next thing they took down the fucking raccoon butt plug tail bastards, they said it was like simulated sex with animals.
01:02:03.928 --> 01:02:06.890
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to shut the whole raccoon up there to get to that point, right?
01:02:06.910 --> 01:02:11.794
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you, you know, of course, like I've gone eBay and I like look for the equivalent.
01:02:11.894 --> 01:02:13.095
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I made that bossy.
01:02:13.115 --> 01:02:14.536
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fucking just, it's like a way.
01:02:14.576 --> 01:02:16.398
[SPEAKER_03]: There's like straight up porn on eBay.
01:02:16.658 --> 01:02:16.838
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
01:02:16.858 --> 01:02:17.699
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
01:02:17.999 --> 01:02:22.082
[SPEAKER_03]: And so sure, like that's not even, that's not the cherry that's just kind of like annoying.
01:02:24.242 --> 01:02:31.266
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we start fulfilling the orders and it wouldn't let us print more than like 20 shipping labels a day.
01:02:31.286 --> 01:02:33.127
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it would throw an error.
01:02:33.227 --> 01:02:33.587
[SPEAKER_03]: eBay.
01:02:33.788 --> 01:02:34.068
[SPEAKER_03]: eBay.
01:02:34.668 --> 01:02:36.869
[SPEAKER_03]: And I called them like four days in a row.
01:02:37.410 --> 01:02:38.610
[SPEAKER_03]: And they basically said, Oh, we have it.
01:02:38.630 --> 01:02:39.531
[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing a support ticket.
01:02:39.551 --> 01:02:40.952
[SPEAKER_03]: There's other people having this problem.
01:02:41.652 --> 01:02:49.481
[SPEAKER_03]: And to this day, like, well over a week later, the same thing is happening, where you can only print out like 20 labels.
01:02:49.521 --> 01:02:51.564
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it just starts saying, oh, we could not make.
01:02:51.584 --> 01:02:53.806
[SPEAKER_03]: We couldn't generate, we couldn't generate, we couldn't generate the label.
01:02:54.887 --> 01:02:58.351
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like a rolling window, too, because like every hour you get one.
01:02:58.612 --> 01:02:59.412
[SPEAKER_03]: Something like that.
01:03:00.213 --> 01:03:03.116
[SPEAKER_03]: So like I ended up just rage quitting today.
01:03:03.156 --> 01:03:05.679
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, so I ended up like refunding every single soda order.
01:03:05.699 --> 01:03:08.542
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was like like 400 orders or something.
01:03:08.562 --> 01:03:12.987
[SPEAKER_03]: 500 orders on eBay that I refunded by hand by like manually clicking every cancelation button.
01:03:13.647 --> 01:03:18.693
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we I like found a service called pirate ship.
01:03:19.153 --> 01:03:22.437
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was called pirate ship that connects to eBay.
01:03:23.037 --> 01:03:24.258
[SPEAKER_03]: And it just fucking work.
01:03:24.338 --> 01:03:48.860
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's kind of annoying having to have eBay open and Pirate ship open to make sure you're feeling the right thing, but like it just fucking works And I'm sitting there thinking I'm giving 20% of everything that eBay You know, they're taking like a lot of money and it doesn't work and it doesn't work at all And so then you have to use another third party service and like I don't know I just it made me really fucking hate yeah eBay charges a lot 20% it's crazy how much they charge.
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:49.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah like
01:03:50.601 --> 01:03:57.043
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit not even Amazon charges that much and so I haven't I haven't gotten any money You send it to they ship it.
01:03:57.143 --> 01:03:58.244
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't even do the actual thing.
01:03:58.264 --> 01:03:58.484
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:03:58.804 --> 01:03:58.944
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:03:58.964 --> 01:04:16.751
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like I think the only value eBay has is like the aggregation of your items so that people can find them like it'll it'll recommend stuff But like I do I haven't gotten any of the money for any of these auctions and I now have because I'm using the third party of fulfillment I am paying my personal money to ship these fucking items.
01:04:17.071 --> 01:04:20.032
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Yeah, like it's fucked
01:04:21.628 --> 01:04:25.911
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, and it just, it on the account, it says like until your account is a good standing, we won't pay you.
01:04:27.252 --> 01:04:31.134
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm literally having to use my own fucking money to fulfill these orders.
01:04:32.115 --> 01:04:34.036
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're holding on and they're holding on to the money.
01:04:34.396 --> 01:04:34.977
[SPEAKER_00]: That's insane.
01:04:35.077 --> 01:04:37.218
[SPEAKER_00]: And they won't let me print more than 20 shipping labels a day.
01:04:37.238 --> 01:04:44.523
[SPEAKER_03]: So it would have taken like four more days to ship all the orders that we ship today using pirates, pirate software, pirate shipping.
01:04:46.945 --> 01:04:47.245
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways.
01:04:50.285 --> 01:04:51.806
[SPEAKER_00]: If you go pee, and I'm going to time this.
01:04:52.346 --> 01:04:52.586
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:04:53.627 --> 01:04:54.007
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin.
01:04:54.167 --> 01:04:55.188
[SPEAKER_03]: Right when the piss starts coming out.
01:04:56.128 --> 01:04:59.570
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you guys working on now?
01:04:59.650 --> 01:05:01.031
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you working on any more products?
01:05:01.672 --> 01:05:02.332
[SPEAKER_03]: Or just videos?
01:05:03.203 --> 01:05:04.104
[SPEAKER_02]: like products in jet.
01:05:04.124 --> 01:05:09.306
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm just working on trying to finish all the stupid ideas that I've come up with over the years.
01:05:09.326 --> 01:05:11.428
[SPEAKER_02]: Never got anywhere.
01:05:11.708 --> 01:05:11.988
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:05:12.108 --> 01:05:13.389
[SPEAKER_02]: I maybe I should give an update.
01:05:13.449 --> 01:05:14.589
[SPEAKER_02]: I find the cave.
01:05:14.769 --> 01:05:17.611
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, no, this is okay.
01:05:17.651 --> 01:05:22.173
[SPEAKER_02]: So I finally was like, you know what, I'm finishing this damn magnet project.
01:05:22.294 --> 01:05:22.634
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:05:22.774 --> 01:05:22.994
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
01:05:24.122 --> 01:05:33.145
[SPEAKER_02]: I can finally stop talking about I feel like I don't know I feel like that guy always says he's going to do something and like three years later everyone's just kind of tired of hearing it.
01:05:34.105 --> 01:05:43.727
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not supposed to say what you're doing until you're done with this what they say exactly what so I finally did it I got past all the difficult parts to make magnet.
01:05:44.788 --> 01:05:49.069
[SPEAKER_02]: You did it I'm not done I'm not I'm not done the magnet okay you haven't done the magnet.
01:05:50.498 --> 01:05:52.499
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I've gotten past all the difficult parts.
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:53.040
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:05:53.220 --> 01:05:55.982
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, it's literally in a cube form.
01:05:56.843 --> 01:05:57.543
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, magnet?
01:05:58.644 --> 01:05:59.064
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:05:59.304 --> 01:06:02.206
[SPEAKER_02]: And it, but I need to center it.
01:06:02.587 --> 01:06:02.887
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:06:04.048 --> 01:06:05.148
[SPEAKER_02]: And I went to go put it.
01:06:05.188 --> 01:06:06.309
[SPEAKER_02]: I went to go prep the oven.
01:06:06.349 --> 01:06:20.013
[SPEAKER_02]: I bought for the project that I've had for like two years and it's funny because I randomly was like, oh, I'm just going to reread the manual a bit just to like brush up some reading it and it said what did it say of the oven.
01:06:20.113 --> 01:06:20.773
[SPEAKER_02]: It just had a war.
01:06:20.993 --> 01:06:22.594
[SPEAKER_02]: It had a comment about don't.
01:06:24.414 --> 01:06:31.076
[SPEAKER_02]: run this oven between like 400 and 600c like for very long because of the elements that are in there.
01:06:31.136 --> 01:06:42.938
[SPEAKER_02]: And I did a little bit of research and I basically realized that when I bought this oven, I was like, oh, I have to do the the synthesis under of the centering under a vacuum.
01:06:43.739 --> 01:06:45.559
[SPEAKER_02]: So I bought a vacuum oven.
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.160
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not good enough of a vacuum.
01:06:52.823 --> 01:06:56.006
[SPEAKER_02]: So then I went down a rabbit hole of trying to find a vacuum.
01:06:56.226 --> 01:07:06.174
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, an oven that could pull a good enough vacuum and it turns out that it's a very, very, very sad experience.
01:07:06.194 --> 01:07:06.935
[SPEAKER_03]: Like expensive?
01:07:06.955 --> 01:07:09.937
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, how long can it take to piss?
01:07:09.977 --> 01:07:10.738
[SPEAKER_00]: 44 seconds.
01:07:11.419 --> 01:07:14.061
[SPEAKER_03]: You had piss coming out of your uniform for 44 seconds.
01:07:15.222 --> 01:07:17.123
[SPEAKER_02]: Damn, you really holding it.
01:07:17.383 --> 01:07:18.044
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shit.
01:07:18.064 --> 01:07:19.125
[SPEAKER_00]: I did have to go, go, go.
01:07:19.145 --> 01:07:19.425
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:07:21.057 --> 01:07:27.228
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, basically the experience I had if I were to sum it up, it was almost unbelievable.
01:07:27.248 --> 01:07:31.255
[SPEAKER_03]: So why can't you do it between 400 and 600 like it'll burn out the elements or something?
01:07:31.582 --> 01:07:33.522
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, so that's a separate problem.
01:07:33.542 --> 01:07:37.403
[SPEAKER_02]: That's because they're malibdenum, uh, suicide, elements.
01:07:37.863 --> 01:07:47.185
[SPEAKER_02]: And they need to form an oxide layer on the outside, but between four and six hundred, they're hot enough to react with oxygen, but they don't pacivate.
01:07:47.606 --> 01:07:51.226
[SPEAKER_02]: So apparently if you keep them there for too long, they just react and then crumble.
01:07:52.067 --> 01:07:53.387
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's not really the problem.
01:07:53.407 --> 01:07:57.868
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is that oven is probably only rated to like a rough vacuum,
01:07:59.113 --> 01:08:00.433
[SPEAKER_02]: pump level.
01:08:00.553 --> 01:08:05.635
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like it's going to pull oxygen into the oven if you try to run it under a vacuum.
01:08:06.055 --> 01:08:20.979
[SPEAKER_02]: So anything that's oxygen sensitive, especially things like iron and neodymium that you're holding at, it's around close to 1100c, any oxygen is just going to immediately react with it.
01:08:21.019 --> 01:08:24.500
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're just pulls in fresh oxygen continuously, basically.
01:08:25.829 --> 01:08:44.433
[SPEAKER_02]: A very small amount will leak in, but like your, the magnet, the red hot thing you're trying to center is so reactive that the neodimium will just get shredded and the deodimium also vaporizes a little bit so to react with oxygen in the air and that will cause the vapor pressure to go down, which will siphon more of your neodimium.
01:08:44.794 --> 01:08:46.214
[SPEAKER_02]: The long story short is like,
01:08:47.300 --> 01:08:58.668
[SPEAKER_02]: I could maybe get away with it, but I have so little of the powder that I'm like, it's not really, I'm not really that interested in doing it, and I've kind of have done everything the proper way up until now.
01:08:59.328 --> 01:09:01.469
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, I'm going to find the right of it.
01:09:01.930 --> 01:09:03.731
[SPEAKER_02]: So I contacted a Chinese company.
01:09:05.120 --> 01:09:10.363
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, it's a problem when I tell them all my plans and she goes, okay, I'm gonna go talk to the engineer.
01:09:10.383 --> 01:09:11.804
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get you a price quote.
01:09:11.864 --> 01:09:14.866
[SPEAKER_02]: She comes back and goes, how about you buy a different product?
01:09:15.146 --> 01:09:23.071
[SPEAKER_02]: She didn't even ask what my budget was because and I got a quote from another company.
01:09:23.091 --> 01:09:29.956
[SPEAKER_02]: I just asked them basically they were like, if you get an oven because the oven ratings are like,
01:09:31.387 --> 01:09:36.630
[SPEAKER_02]: standards 1200C, the mid tier is like 1400 and the upper tier 1700.
01:09:36.730 --> 01:09:42.054
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that's what would make the oven's expensive.
01:09:42.474 --> 01:09:49.578
[SPEAKER_02]: And it does to a certain degree, but for a lot of them, it's how much of how good of a vacuum they can pull.
01:09:50.379 --> 01:09:54.301
[SPEAKER_02]: So, sorry, there was one big is the oven.
01:09:55.405 --> 01:09:56.086
[SPEAKER_02]: not that big.
01:09:56.466 --> 01:09:56.826
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:09:56.846 --> 01:09:58.607
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you see what's just going.
01:09:58.627 --> 01:10:01.409
[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you just put the old fucking thing in an oven or in a vacuum?
01:10:01.850 --> 01:10:02.090
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:10:04.832 --> 01:10:07.494
[SPEAKER_02]: You need really good temperature control of what though.
01:10:09.695 --> 01:10:13.018
[SPEAKER_00]: You only need the the power cord coming out and a thermocouple going in.
01:10:13.038 --> 01:10:13.278
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:10:13.298 --> 01:10:15.580
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, just stick the whole fucking machine.
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.221
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you get the smallest machine you can get.
01:10:17.241 --> 01:10:21.384
[SPEAKER_03]: Just stick it in like a, you know, stainless steel tube with plexiglass lid.
01:10:22.770 --> 01:10:25.553
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so you're saying, just get like a giant oven.
01:10:25.933 --> 01:10:26.854
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, then let's try it.
01:10:26.874 --> 01:10:27.595
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, giant.
01:10:27.915 --> 01:10:28.856
[SPEAKER_02]: Vacuum chamber.
01:10:28.876 --> 01:10:30.938
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, how big is the topic is?
01:10:30.978 --> 01:10:37.785
[SPEAKER_03]: How, how, like, you can get those, like, uh, like scientific tabletop ovens for relatively cheap.
01:10:37.825 --> 01:10:40.748
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like, what can't, like, the where is the thermocouple in one of those?
01:10:41.168 --> 01:10:42.209
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how do they measure temperatures?
01:10:42.229 --> 01:10:43.571
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a by-stable switch or something?
01:10:43.591 --> 01:10:44.632
[SPEAKER_03]: What happens at that temperature?
01:10:45.232 --> 01:10:52.439
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are a by-stable switch where you can adjust the pre-tension on it a lot of them are just like digital PID loops though.
01:10:52.479 --> 01:11:03.228
[SPEAKER_03]: So then how is your temperature controlled on a vacuum oven if the whole fucking oven process is usually, you know, conduction and you don't have air because like you're something up in a thing.
01:11:10.067 --> 01:11:13.308
[SPEAKER_02]: they must really look that deep into it.
01:11:13.808 --> 01:11:14.168
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:11:14.788 --> 01:11:21.430
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be like must use IR because I feel part of me feels like you could just stick.
01:11:21.670 --> 01:11:25.531
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm assuming you just get a fucking small amount of machine just sticking a goddamn pressure.
01:11:25.611 --> 01:11:26.492
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
01:11:26.532 --> 01:11:28.992
[SPEAKER_02]: So that that brings me to the thing.
01:11:29.052 --> 01:11:35.054
[SPEAKER_02]: So what you're what you're saying is kind of leads me to the problem or to the point of what I'm saying.
01:11:36.928 --> 01:11:48.196
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want normal vacuum, kind of like the oven I bought, it's not that hard to achieve, so in like millibar, a roughing pump is like 10 to the minus 2 millibar.
01:11:48.816 --> 01:11:50.197
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that in my cond?
01:11:51.978 --> 01:11:53.519
[SPEAKER_02]: 10 to the minus 2, I think that's.
01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:58.642
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I wait, because millibar.
01:11:58.662 --> 01:12:01.484
[SPEAKER_02]: I can hate how many I always use.
01:12:01.504 --> 01:12:02.425
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's I think it's.
01:12:05.509 --> 01:12:09.671
[SPEAKER_02]: 1 milli bar to my carons, but I think it's a thout.
01:12:09.691 --> 01:12:13.912
[SPEAKER_02]: So 1 milli bar is 750 microns.
01:12:14.172 --> 01:12:15.332
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's pretty good.
01:12:15.372 --> 01:12:18.193
[SPEAKER_02]: 10 to the minus 2 would be like point.
01:12:18.593 --> 01:12:20.114
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like 1 micron.
01:12:20.334 --> 01:12:20.714
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
01:12:20.994 --> 01:12:22.174
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, that's a rough thing pump.
01:12:22.234 --> 01:12:23.935
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be a better vacuum than that.
01:12:26.142 --> 01:12:28.403
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like a roughing pump will do.
01:12:28.463 --> 01:12:35.467
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a roughing pump does about like a does less than a micron right like if it's completely seal not my harbour freight one.
01:12:37.248 --> 01:12:40.050
[SPEAKER_00]: And that does 20 seven microns.
01:12:40.470 --> 01:12:41.711
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right it does like 27070.
01:12:41.751 --> 01:12:42.772
[SPEAKER_00]: What it says.
01:12:42.832 --> 01:12:43.132
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:44.070 --> 01:12:51.354
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it does, but basically the magnet needs to be in the centering about 10 to the minus five millibar.
01:12:51.434 --> 01:12:56.636
[SPEAKER_02]: So you need multiple orders of magnitude better than your pump.
01:12:56.676 --> 01:12:59.258
[SPEAKER_02]: So you need to use a turbo pump or a diffusion pump.
01:12:59.798 --> 01:13:15.081
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is you then start to you start to need to use like maybe not to that level, but you start to be very careful about what you used to build your system, because I know when you get to ultra high vacuum like your welds matter.
01:13:15.101 --> 01:13:17.402
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to make sure like your welds aren't leaky.
01:13:18.422 --> 01:13:25.743
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't use a lot of like certain plastics because they will just leak air or the off gas themselves and you'll never get your vacuum.
01:13:30.764 --> 01:13:32.845
[SPEAKER_02]: because you cannot have any oxygen.
01:13:32.905 --> 01:13:35.447
[SPEAKER_03]: When I then do like positive pressure, something else.
01:13:36.407 --> 01:13:37.908
[SPEAKER_02]: So you could pop our gun in.
01:13:37.968 --> 01:13:47.854
[SPEAKER_02]: But our gun is at least even the 99.99% stuff is only guaranteed to have like a three less and three p.m. O2 or something.
01:13:48.034 --> 01:13:48.594
[SPEAKER_02]: You can make that.
01:13:48.614 --> 01:13:50.215
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to have virtually none.
01:13:50.775 --> 01:13:53.617
[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, you can put it through people do it.
01:13:53.657 --> 01:13:58.159
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they put the argon through like a hot titanium catalyst or something.
01:14:01.729 --> 01:14:11.706
[SPEAKER_02]: There's it into being like you can do that, but ultimately it is still kind of easier to just have a vacuum.
01:14:11.746 --> 01:14:14.351
[SPEAKER_02]: So this I'll lead to what I'm saying.
01:14:14.391 --> 01:14:14.531
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
01:14:15.877 --> 01:14:44.383
[SPEAKER_02]: the oven I was looking into like a front opening oven she was like oh you want one that's like rough vacuum goes to 1200c oh that's like 2,000 bucks like 3,000 dollars and you're like oh okay I thought I'm like what about one that you can do a 10 to the minus 5 millibar she goes oh that's gonna start at 30,000 plus and you're like I'm like uh so then what happened was she goes I would not buy that she goes it's not even worth it she goes get a tube furnace
01:14:45.003 --> 01:14:48.557
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, okay, I have a tube furnace.
01:14:50.001 --> 01:15:05.627
[SPEAKER_02]: The, but the, it's just like every time you, you try to do like some process and way we just, I'll say things just don't work out properly because I need to center it at around 1050 to 1080 C. Yeah.
01:15:07.187 --> 01:15:15.230
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is under vacuum, you cannot safely do that with a quartz tube, which is what the two furnaces come with.
01:15:17.025 --> 01:15:27.031
[SPEAKER_02]: No, actually, the quote from the Chinese company was, she says, we cannot guarantee the tube will not fracture a key under a vacuum implode.
01:15:27.732 --> 01:15:29.273
[SPEAKER_02]: She goes, but they're cheap.
01:15:29.393 --> 01:15:30.213
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's worth it.
01:15:30.293 --> 01:15:31.154
[SPEAKER_02]: Give it a try.
01:15:31.274 --> 01:15:31.794
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like,
01:15:33.725 --> 01:15:34.866
[SPEAKER_02]: So lumina my powder.
01:15:35.566 --> 01:15:42.771
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would the so you can do a lumina, but I this is where I'm just trying to say is like where my I hate everything I was going out.
01:15:42.791 --> 01:15:57.761
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a tube furnace that can fit what I'm doing because it's a bigger Cube so it needs my bigger tube furnace so I asked them hey can I buy like a tube she goes sure it turns out that the tube furnace I have which I bought for another project
01:15:59.176 --> 01:16:10.062
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an atypical tube size and the aluminum tube has a 30 day like period to make it and she goes and on top of that it's Chinese New Year.
01:16:10.142 --> 01:16:15.065
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're probably going to be like 45 days before we can even ship it.
01:16:15.245 --> 01:16:18.227
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh, okay.
01:16:19.598 --> 01:16:44.651
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I said, well, what about, because you can do it in a very special nickel alloy stainless, because she even said, under that vacuum and doing what you want to do, she's like, the aluminum is fine, but my problem is I need to do a quick drop of temperature, like very fast, which is like, technically outside the range of what they advertise aluminum to be good for.
01:16:45.191 --> 01:16:47.192
[SPEAKER_02]: And they said, oh, it could explode.
01:16:47.332 --> 01:16:47.753
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like,
01:16:49.463 --> 01:16:58.486
[SPEAKER_02]: So then I went to go do a nickel alloy that's good up to 1100c and I talked to the seller and she's like, yeah, that it seems like it's good for you.
01:16:58.506 --> 01:16:58.986
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll work.
01:16:59.066 --> 01:17:00.306
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, okay, I'll have it made.
01:17:00.706 --> 01:17:04.827
[SPEAKER_02]: And she goes, unfortunately, we, there's restrictions.
01:17:05.007 --> 01:17:08.468
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot ship a stainless steel tube like this out of China.
01:17:09.229 --> 01:17:09.389
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
01:17:10.589 --> 01:17:13.930
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, there are, she goes, it can only be sold as an accessory.
01:17:15.675 --> 01:17:25.258
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like she goes she literally said I suggest if you need just the tube she goes try other countries like India or Find a machine is locally.
01:17:25.738 --> 01:17:27.238
[SPEAKER_02]: She just she's like we can't shit.
01:17:27.258 --> 01:17:32.700
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like oh my god a missile Nothing kid yet nothing can solve my problem.
01:17:33.160 --> 01:17:37.981
[SPEAKER_03]: So why you're you have to like You know, use radiant heat, right?
01:17:38.061 --> 01:17:41.762
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm assuming the Southern furnace is working if there's a vacuum Yeah
01:17:42.869 --> 01:17:45.870
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so the courts too would get that hot if you had it in there.
01:17:47.171 --> 01:17:54.153
[SPEAKER_02]: So the court tubes nice and the tube furnace because uh, or the tubes in general, because they can put heating coils all the way around.
01:17:54.233 --> 01:17:58.214
[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, you get like a full 360, even heat from the tube.
01:17:58.515 --> 01:18:01.776
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it just radiates even IR onto whatever you're doing.
01:18:01.796 --> 01:18:02.956
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, here's an idea.
01:18:03.296 --> 01:18:06.837
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, is the magnet, it's made of metal.
01:18:08.058 --> 01:18:08.298
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:18:10.618 --> 01:18:15.499
[SPEAKER_03]: what if you put an enormous current through a wire around it and he did it inductively.
01:18:15.519 --> 01:18:23.822
[SPEAKER_02]: The, well, I mean, you, I, the problem is that you have to be very careful with your temperature control because you don't do things super evenly.
01:18:24.102 --> 01:18:33.445
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not that you kind of like, no, but I meant like the current enters at like, and there's, there's also phases in which it, the liquid melts.
01:18:33.485 --> 01:18:35.165
[SPEAKER_02]: So the resistance is going to change.
01:18:35.745 --> 01:18:37.306
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you can control anyone's
01:18:39.727 --> 01:18:45.832
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the question is like, if the vacuum is hard to pull, I feel like a tube or the furnace, the vacuum.
01:18:45.872 --> 01:18:47.073
[SPEAKER_02]: The tube furnace solves it.
01:18:47.313 --> 01:18:52.097
[SPEAKER_03]: The vacuum furnace, at the point of that is like for industrial, you see, do it over and over again.
01:18:52.117 --> 01:18:58.783
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you're just kind of like doing these one off, like you could probably do it pretty, like best induction.
01:18:59.123 --> 01:19:08.229
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like if you you seal it in the tube under the vacuum that you just pull it once and then you inductee into it and they can I say that inductee.
01:19:08.369 --> 01:19:11.631
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, so yeah, I think that's the third transfer.
01:19:12.032 --> 01:19:14.573
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I explain a bit further, I think it makes sense.
01:19:14.633 --> 01:19:23.359
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, the big furnaces that are front facing cost a lot because the vacuum sealing surface has to also take heat.
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:24.700
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to install a
01:19:27.542 --> 01:19:32.888
[SPEAKER_03]: It's meant to be like the open it player should out put a new thing in if you're just showing it at least one magnitude out like why not just you got it.
01:19:32.908 --> 01:19:34.289
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm saying the two furnace.
01:19:34.389 --> 01:19:34.629
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:19:34.990 --> 01:19:38.714
[SPEAKER_02]: The two furnace is like more annoying because you're loading things into a tube.
01:19:38.954 --> 01:19:39.134
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:19:39.174 --> 01:19:45.080
[SPEAKER_02]: But the benefit is that it's like a long tube where you only clamp the middle with a heater and you can have like.
01:19:46.013 --> 01:19:48.815
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, eight, nine inches coming out the end.
01:19:49.495 --> 01:19:53.518
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can just put a normal o-ring with like a clamp on it.
01:19:53.658 --> 01:19:56.379
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why you can achieve higher vacuum for cheaper.
01:19:56.940 --> 01:19:59.141
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the two furnaces are way cheaper.
01:19:59.581 --> 01:20:07.166
[SPEAKER_02]: So what I ended up doing is I just decide to buy another tube furnace and I decide to get a bigger tube.
01:20:07.626 --> 01:20:14.090
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I've also got them to spec it to go up to 12, sorry, 1,700 C because I'll use it for other projects.
01:20:16.371 --> 01:20:18.673
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only like 300 millimeters long.
01:20:18.793 --> 01:20:25.257
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like a foot, a wide, uh, four, five inches.
01:20:25.717 --> 01:20:25.898
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
01:20:26.318 --> 01:20:27.158
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, four inches.
01:20:30.317 --> 01:20:35.199
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and they, like, do you, like, see how do you seal them?
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:35.760
[SPEAKER_03]: You melt them.
01:20:36.700 --> 01:20:38.561
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, then it ends up you're open.
01:20:38.761 --> 01:20:39.041
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:20:39.461 --> 01:20:40.042
[SPEAKER_03]: They're open.
01:20:40.122 --> 01:20:43.223
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's kind of like, um, I thought I described it.
01:20:43.243 --> 01:20:47.965
[SPEAKER_02]: They put like, at least with the courts, too, you put a metal ring over it.
01:20:48.265 --> 01:20:53.548
[SPEAKER_02]: That has kind of like a cutout on, like the, the part facing the end.
01:20:54.088 --> 01:20:55.629
[SPEAKER_02]: That's at like a 45 degree.
01:20:55.689 --> 01:20:57.910
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can roll like an o ring on.
01:20:58.537 --> 01:21:23.183
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is like a, like a chair or something like a plumbing cup or like a little barrels that you put over or actually sort you put up like a backing clamp thing on then you put like yeah like a thing with a 45 degree angle you put an O ring then you put like a little like I think that will squish it the O ring into that and then you push another thing on the other side and it just kind of like squeezes the
01:21:24.483 --> 01:21:34.356
[SPEAKER_03]: If you got a good vacuum, and you have an induction heater around it, I bet you can calculate exactly how much energy is going into this to get like pretty close temperature.
01:21:34.867 --> 01:21:38.268
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can, I, at least with the two friends, you just do it with radiative heat.
01:21:38.288 --> 01:21:44.109
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that also is fine, but you have to worry about the tube getting like too hot.
01:21:44.869 --> 01:21:59.592
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
01:22:01.997 --> 01:22:08.567
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically the quartz, it's a high gun to tell me, so quartz has like vitrification or something.
01:22:09.008 --> 01:22:10.490
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like around 1100c.
01:22:12.799 --> 01:22:20.485
[SPEAKER_02]: theoretically quartz has a very high melting point, but it starts to soften at like a 1100c.
01:22:21.145 --> 01:22:31.974
[SPEAKER_02]: So they were basically if you keep it that hot for a while, it can start to like sag and de-form and under a vacuum you can just die.
01:22:32.134 --> 01:22:37.738
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean you see what I'm saying though is like if you heat up the the magnet itself, the tube's not going to get that hot.
01:22:39.620 --> 01:22:39.840
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:22:40.710 --> 01:22:46.999
[SPEAKER_03]: When the beacon measure very good temp, you need a very accurate what's the mission at that temperature, what's the wavelength.
01:22:48.721 --> 01:22:49.062
[SPEAKER_03]: Orange.
01:22:49.162 --> 01:22:51.665
[SPEAKER_03]: I've no idea orange or not.
01:22:51.706 --> 01:22:55.471
[SPEAKER_03]: You just get a Raspberry Pi with a camera on it and then you calculate how hard it is.
01:22:57.233 --> 01:23:00.596
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the temperature control has to be very careful.
01:23:01.196 --> 01:23:01.537
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:23:02.097 --> 01:23:08.522
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if, like, within a 1050c, if you go up 30 degrees, you can destroy it.
01:23:08.982 --> 01:23:11.704
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can also just put it in line on the magnet.
01:23:11.744 --> 01:23:12.385
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's crucible.
01:23:12.805 --> 01:23:16.968
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like I feel like there's a there's like a hardware way of doing that.
01:23:17.048 --> 01:23:23.011
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a crucible or you're just like you press it into the centered shape and then you're just It's interesting.
01:23:23.071 --> 01:23:25.313
[SPEAKER_02]: It's centered shape and it's in a box.
01:23:25.493 --> 01:23:26.854
[SPEAKER_02]: It has to be in a sealed box.
01:23:28.134 --> 01:23:29.295
[SPEAKER_02]: Not sealed, not fully sealed.
01:23:29.315 --> 01:23:30.416
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, why not fully sealed?
01:23:31.617 --> 01:23:35.079
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it basically looked like this is why all these like little details came out.
01:23:36.179 --> 01:23:36.980
[SPEAKER_02]: You basically
01:23:38.918 --> 01:23:46.660
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not many materials that can sit on because when it centers, the neodymium is really reactive and it also starts to like liquefy.
01:23:48.481 --> 01:24:04.186
[SPEAKER_02]: So there aren't, yeah, there aren't that many options of what you can put it on, but because the neodymium also kind of liquefies it vaporizes and if you if you have it open, it will sort of coat the surface of your, um, of your.
01:24:04.986 --> 01:24:06.367
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pencil apparent.
01:24:06.808 --> 01:24:12.312
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, inside your tube and it can technically mess up your magnet these are losing neodymium.
01:24:12.692 --> 01:24:22.519
[SPEAKER_02]: So what you do is you put it in a sintering box so that it builds the vapor pressure up in your box and prevents the neodymium from vaporizing.
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:24.781
[SPEAKER_02]: And it also protects your tube.
01:24:24.881 --> 01:24:26.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Give a bomb and then a vacuum.
01:24:26.422 --> 01:24:27.603
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the box made out of?
01:24:33.472 --> 01:24:34.072
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
01:24:34.573 --> 01:24:46.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what if you, you have a laser welder, you can get some stainless steel sheet and weld a cup around it.
01:24:46.598 --> 01:24:55.883
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like blacksmiths when they do heat treating on on their knives, they put them in a stainless steel foil to protect them from oxygen before they throw them in the furnace.
01:24:56.922 --> 01:25:03.983
[SPEAKER_00]: because they don't want it, once you grind your knife to the final shape, then you have to do another heat treat to harden it, just easier that way.
01:25:04.023 --> 01:25:09.864
[SPEAKER_00]: So they throw some charcoal in stainless steel foil pouch and then heat treat it like that.
01:25:10.325 --> 01:25:14.445
[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't have to re-grind all the fire scale off the knife.
01:25:15.225 --> 01:25:21.007
[SPEAKER_00]: So you could make a second structure around this crucible that you have it in.
01:25:21.127 --> 01:25:23.327
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that way you don't have to put the whole thing in a vacuum.
01:25:25.683 --> 01:25:27.367
[SPEAKER_02]: But how do you get a vacuum in?
01:25:28.790 --> 01:25:30.956
[SPEAKER_00]: We can replace it with like argon or something.
01:25:31.377 --> 01:25:33.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And or it puts some carbon in there, too.
01:25:35.288 --> 01:25:38.189
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is carbon, uh, carbon should be okay.
01:25:38.610 --> 01:25:42.392
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what high temperatures carbon vaporizes and carbon will poison my magnet.
01:25:42.812 --> 01:25:44.913
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think it's, well, I had 1100.
01:25:44.953 --> 01:25:49.135
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like that interesting much of an issue.
01:25:49.935 --> 01:25:51.016
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what high temperatures.
01:25:51.036 --> 01:25:54.518
[SPEAKER_02]: I know when you get like high temperature ovens are made with graphite.
01:25:54.858 --> 01:25:59.720
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know it's a thing that they can like, but that's kind of, I think that's a higher like 1800C or something.
01:26:03.243 --> 01:26:05.504
[SPEAKER_02]: Either way, I bought the tube for an ass, so, okay.
01:26:05.805 --> 01:26:09.227
[SPEAKER_03]: I went the, I was just trying to just cast himself up to buy more shit.
01:26:09.667 --> 01:26:16.391
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, I respect it because I tried this kind of stuff, doing it the Home Depot way, they's hardware way, it doesn't work.
01:26:16.751 --> 01:26:18.713
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do the Chinese, I like that way.
01:26:19.642 --> 01:26:23.506
[SPEAKER_02]: No, so kind of the problem, uh, he tries it the right way.
01:26:23.526 --> 01:26:25.147
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just fucking worth a time anyway.
01:26:25.367 --> 01:26:31.413
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the whole premise of the movie is that I'm trying, I'm trying to do everything the right way.
01:26:31.793 --> 01:26:41.983
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like this is literally the last step of spending way too much money to do everything the right way that it doesn't really make any sense to be like,
01:26:43.098 --> 01:26:44.699
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm just going to have to.
01:26:44.719 --> 01:26:46.260
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to have to.
01:26:46.300 --> 01:26:48.562
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the like, I got what I needed now.
01:26:48.602 --> 01:26:49.743
[SPEAKER_03]: What I wanted.
01:26:49.763 --> 01:26:54.686
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually think you would get you get a pretty scuffed magnet when you're done.
01:26:55.147 --> 01:26:58.749
[SPEAKER_03]: Watch, I bet you you're going to get a scuffed magnet and what I have fucking good you did.
01:26:58.789 --> 01:27:01.271
[SPEAKER_02]: Now my magnet's beautiful right now.
01:27:01.511 --> 01:27:02.011
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it work?
01:27:03.553 --> 01:27:07.816
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very weak because it hasn't been centered or magnetized like properly.
01:27:08.556 --> 01:27:09.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you tried it yet?
01:27:10.288 --> 01:27:14.513
[SPEAKER_00]: You were talking about like the problems that you might have in a rough vacuum furnace.
01:27:14.673 --> 01:27:15.374
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you tried it though?
01:27:16.615 --> 01:27:18.918
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, I, oh, you don't have a lot of packed code.
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:22.942
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a lot to, it's a very, yeah, it's just to me.
01:27:22.963 --> 01:27:24.785
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's small ones.
01:27:25.065 --> 01:27:27.648
[SPEAKER_03]: And sorry, we made a small magnet.
01:27:28.773 --> 01:27:37.341
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is the mold I have, I basically can, the minimum size can be about 70 grams, and I think I only have like 300.
01:27:37.421 --> 01:27:48.751
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have like, not that many attempts, I can buy a smaller magnet mold, which I kind of do plan to do anyway, but then that's also months away.
01:27:49.051 --> 01:27:50.933
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was like it doesn't really help me.
01:27:51.517 --> 01:27:51.917
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
01:27:51.997 --> 01:27:54.219
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the process of you having to make that powder.
01:27:54.239 --> 01:28:00.482
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was something that you ordered, but you had to go through a long process to get that powder and I, I will not do it.
01:28:00.902 --> 01:28:04.585
[SPEAKER_03]: What if you ordered powder and use that for the test and then use your powder?
01:28:04.605 --> 01:28:10.768
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess that's, I guess you should be able to order the powder.
01:28:10.788 --> 01:28:13.810
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that might save you some headache of like,
01:28:15.952 --> 01:28:22.155
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you buck all your powder up, your life will be horrible, but the more horrible you are in the other story.
01:28:23.296 --> 01:28:26.017
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can absolutely buy the powder and it's not that expensive.
01:28:26.577 --> 01:28:44.266
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say though that the the biggest thing is I personally believe that if you take the the magnet I have put it in its boron nitride, whatever in the little centering box and put it in the thing with the roughing pump, I think you'll have a centred magnet when it's done.
01:28:45.588 --> 01:28:49.725
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll just have oxygen in it, but it just won't be like the greatest magnitude ever.
01:28:50.558 --> 01:28:51.878
[SPEAKER_02]: No, won't be as good as it could be.
01:28:52.459 --> 01:28:56.720
[SPEAKER_00]: So we talking about 51 and 50.
01:28:56.740 --> 01:28:58.100
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we in the end?
01:28:58.240 --> 01:29:00.361
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it has the Kevin Kevin.
01:29:00.381 --> 01:29:03.722
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it has the power right now in my maybe I'm blind.
01:29:03.862 --> 01:29:06.583
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm absolutely delusion on my blind faith.
01:29:07.283 --> 01:29:09.604
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're looking at a good end 52.
01:29:09.644 --> 01:29:14.385
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you do it in that oven, it could go down to like, you know,
01:29:16.526 --> 01:29:17.006
[SPEAKER_00]: low 40.
01:29:17.066 --> 01:29:17.847
[SPEAKER_02]: I've no idea.
01:29:17.907 --> 01:29:25.812
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even feel like I can speculate what's the thing could be as low as like It's a guy I'm gonna on like a thing not even on that scale.
01:29:26.012 --> 01:29:31.015
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah Where can someone please quantify the what the fucking and 50?
01:29:31.075 --> 01:29:42.703
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like about like theoretically how good a magnet could be versus what it tests at okay, and I think for some reason like n 52 I think is the top and then it's like
01:29:46.525 --> 01:29:53.853
[SPEAKER_02]: I, all you will tell you is that the more I learn about magnets, the more I am confused.
01:29:54.233 --> 01:29:58.718
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's like, you ask what the N52 and all those ratings are.
01:30:00.059 --> 01:30:01.421
[SPEAKER_02]: As far as I know, I'm not the expert.
01:30:01.461 --> 01:30:05.265
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't gotten to this point because I do want to test the magnet, but I figured I make it first.
01:30:07.008 --> 01:30:10.491
[SPEAKER_02]: actually quantifying what it means to be n52.
01:30:10.551 --> 01:30:14.275
[SPEAKER_02]: I think is like a debatable thing.
01:30:15.076 --> 01:30:24.304
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think that there's just this thing where you're like, oh, whatever, you make a machine that, you know, launches something a certain speed.
01:30:24.324 --> 01:30:26.706
[SPEAKER_02]: You can just measure that and go, it does this.
01:30:27.207 --> 01:30:29.288
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the n52 thing is kind of
01:30:30.635 --> 01:30:38.480
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I could look it up, but I feel like there's a bit of controversy of how people tested and they, you know, maybe claim it's a little bit better.
01:30:38.500 --> 01:30:43.523
[SPEAKER_02]: I could be wrong, but I do know also the whole magnet stuff is so messed up because
01:30:45.447 --> 01:30:53.833
[SPEAKER_02]: You try to make a strong magnet, but by making a really strong magnet, you'll probably make one that's also more easily demagnetizable.
01:30:54.354 --> 01:31:02.520
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a big game of like, you need to, it's how strong can it be while also being able to resist demagnetization.
01:31:05.102 --> 01:31:09.005
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's always like that play between those two factors.
01:31:12.650 --> 01:31:30.341
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, it's so complicated, but when I said in what I want to do is I want to be able to really, I want to be able to lower the temperature really fast when I center it because that's also like part of it in my setup, it's really hard to do that properly, but that should make it.
01:31:32.184 --> 01:31:35.146
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe, I forget which part of it.
01:31:35.266 --> 01:31:37.788
[SPEAKER_02]: There's, I think that makes it stronger.
01:31:37.888 --> 01:31:45.472
[SPEAKER_02]: But then there's like another part where you anneal it, and that makes it less demagnetizable, but you actually do sacrifice a bit of strength.
01:31:46.353 --> 01:31:52.977
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's just like, so if I wanted to be as strong as possible and don't care, I could skip that step.
01:31:54.038 --> 01:31:56.219
[SPEAKER_03]: You definitely shouldn't make the magnet as strong as possible.
01:31:57.120 --> 01:31:59.061
[SPEAKER_03]: No one cares about its physical strength.
01:32:00.494 --> 01:32:07.938
[SPEAKER_03]: make it like when I'm at like finger smashing and if it breaks when it smashes your fingers then little needle shards of magnet go like in there.
01:32:08.638 --> 01:32:09.779
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that would be awesome.
01:32:09.799 --> 01:32:16.142
[SPEAKER_03]: I do like smash your finger and they like explode and explode and then you don't go like this.
01:32:16.162 --> 01:32:17.743
[SPEAKER_03]: Really penetrate your fingers.
01:32:17.783 --> 01:32:18.163
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:32:18.743 --> 01:32:26.747
[SPEAKER_02]: So it says an N 52 magnet is a magnet that has the energy product of 52 MGOE.
01:32:26.827 --> 01:32:27.908
[SPEAKER_02]: I forget what that stands for.
01:32:27.928 --> 01:32:28.668
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
01:32:30.498 --> 01:32:30.979
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
01:32:30.999 --> 01:32:45.017
[SPEAKER_02]: I asked why so allegedly it just is a straight up magnet strength, but it's like, I feel like the way that people measure it is.
01:32:47.522 --> 01:32:50.984
[SPEAKER_03]: Just tell me how much force it takes to pull two magnets of the same straight up.
01:32:51.004 --> 01:33:13.659
[SPEAKER_02]: So it claims that, okay, so maybe like I said, I haven't looked too deeply into it, but N 52, I feel like it's just the way, because you know, the magnetic field is different around different shapes and everything, and I feel like the way that people measure it, they kind of like, is like a little magnet strength or is it like peak magnet strength?
01:33:15.824 --> 01:33:21.388
[SPEAKER_02]: So 50 and 52 is Mega Gauss or Steads or Steads.
01:33:23.810 --> 01:33:25.851
[SPEAKER_00]: How many paper clips can it pick up?
01:33:27.553 --> 01:33:28.553
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a P10.
01:33:28.614 --> 01:33:29.594
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Magnet.
01:33:29.975 --> 01:33:32.436
[SPEAKER_03]: This was like the final.
01:33:32.476 --> 01:33:34.138
[SPEAKER_03]: You have PS when I ship in.
01:33:35.298 --> 01:33:41.323
[SPEAKER_02]: This was the final part of the whole magnet journey that I'm like, when I'm done, it's like how the hell do I measure how strong it actually is?
01:33:41.383 --> 01:33:43.665
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I'll research that once I get there.
01:33:44.675 --> 01:33:45.356
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't know.
01:33:45.376 --> 01:33:46.478
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going on favor.
01:33:46.518 --> 01:33:47.439
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be $1,000.
01:33:49.261 --> 01:33:52.325
[SPEAKER_02]: So right now, you'll be happy to know right now.
01:33:53.406 --> 01:34:00.535
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not centered and it has not been magnetized, but just in the process, it picked up magnetization when I did the pressing.
01:34:01.176 --> 01:34:03.378
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it can probably pick up
01:34:04.435 --> 01:34:06.996
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it picks up like a medium-sized Allen key.
01:34:08.197 --> 01:34:27.127
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, it's got some, you know, it's got some of these, like, ten, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six,
01:34:28.430 --> 01:34:38.540
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, everything or just a matter of fact, every thing we could give you a couple of our soda packs and we could end everything I think What does that mean?
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.503
[SPEAKER_03]: There'll be contaminated with some sort of horrible bacteria.
01:34:42.384 --> 01:34:43.825
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that'd be good, actually.
01:34:44.290 --> 01:34:46.892
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, there are two ketchup packets I organized the sauce drawer.
01:34:47.113 --> 01:34:47.553
[SPEAKER_03]: You saw this too.
01:34:47.573 --> 01:34:48.634
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw those.
01:34:48.694 --> 01:34:52.598
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was I'm saving them to talk about and that's me Donald's ketchup too.
01:34:52.678 --> 01:34:52.958
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:53.078 --> 01:34:56.581
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's either a lot of ketchup in there or a lot of, uh, gas.
01:34:56.701 --> 01:34:58.143
[SPEAKER_03]: And the facts, the facts.
01:34:59.024 --> 01:35:00.445
[SPEAKER_03]: They look like they're about to explode.
01:35:00.545 --> 01:35:02.567
[SPEAKER_01]: John, where we at?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you guys for listening to this episode of the safety third podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you would like an extra podcast every week, we have a Patreon down in the link in the description below.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to ask us questions or tag us on discord and have a signory you if you're question is stupid because I swear to God most of the tags are just like one you guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're pushing us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're pushing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can go over there, support us,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love you, Nigel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love everyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was in terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like turtles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you guys next week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should have said that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See you on Patreon!