Doomsday

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Saturday, September 12th, 635 in the evening. This is Razor
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Wire News. Fitz, good evening.
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Good evening, sir.
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We get to talk about doom and the whole civilization
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is going to be destroyed.
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You know, it's the end of the world, McShane. And
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you know, I'm here for it. I am here for it. I...
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if I don't have to go back to work on Monday,
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like bonus. And I, I don't, I'm not alone. I
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don't think I'm alone. I, I know.
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No. And I have to call you out on something
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because you made a claim last week that you would
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rather be, you'd rather deal with, I I'm paraphrasing a
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little bit, so I might be getting this wrong. You,
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you clarify. You said that you would rather deal with
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American robots, killer robots, Terminators robots, than Chinese killer robots.
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Actually, again, McShane, again, and.
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I can't emphasize this enough, you're once again confusing me
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with Senator Ted Cruz.
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And I know we look very similar.
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We have a very similar affect and outlook on the world,
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but that was him this time, dude.
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That wasn't me.
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Yes, yes.
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Every time I see you, wow, I thought you were
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Ted Cruz.
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That's so crazy.
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I know.
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I get that a lot. I get it a lot.
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It's crazy.
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We have one of the biggest narratives of probably of
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the year, I think, that just sprouted into fruition this week.
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It was set up a couple months back, and we
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talked about Hugging Face. And this week, everything just escalated.
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And we're going to get into that. I want to
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talk about the narrative and how it was set up.
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But then we're going to get into some of the
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actual what we got a hunch is actually happening. Yeah, I.
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Yeah, this one's a weird one because we we called
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out the narrative. We see the narrative for what it
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is or what it at least probably is. These days,
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you can't speak with anything on any kind of certainty.
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But also also the threat is real.
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So like that, that's why this narrative is so, it's
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such a good one. It's so insidious because it has
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like real world possibilities.
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Oh, you know, I mean, yeah.
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And so I, this one, this one will be fun
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to talk about. I think, I think we, we, you
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and I both did some, some deep dives and in
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kind of different ways on this one.
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And so I think that'll be a fun conversation.
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Yep, yep. And that'll be the first thing that we're
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going to dive into. So we'll definitely, that'll probably be,
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first half will be probably pretty heavy in that. And
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we kind of started last week when Bernie Sanders dropped
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that AI bill. And, you know, he didn't, we have
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to stop. Give me some money or we're going to,
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we need to stop AI. We've got to stop AI.
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Do you think he missed his cue? Like he thought
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he was supposed to go? you know, at, at two
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minutes and 14 seconds. And, and he jumped the gun.
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He just blew his wad at one minute and five seconds.
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Cause it, that, that seemed a little early. If he'd
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have waited till this week, it would have, it would
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have been a bomb dropper. Like people would have been like, yes,
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go Bernie. I feel like he, he blew his wad
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a little early.
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In hindsight.
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Yeah.
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If we're, we're Monday morning quarterbacking this thing. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think he shot, he shot his load a little
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too early. Got a little too excited. He's old.
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I mean, it's kind of a hold back. I mean,
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it happens to the.
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Best of us. It's amazing, right? Well, yeah.
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Kudos to you, man.
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So we're going to go balls deep in that subject.
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We've got, oh, happy birthday to Hefe. Happy birthday to Hefe.
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How old is he?
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39?
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50.
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Oh, right. We're counting backwards. Yes, 39 is right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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39 this week.
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51.
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He's 51.
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I called him on his birthday, and I barely let
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him pick up the phone. I was like, what's up,
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you old fucker? I'm not going to let him get
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away with being the younger one of the two of us. Now,
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you're the baby of the group, and so you're definitely
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not going to get away with it.
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I am. No. No, I won't. I won't get away
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with it. And I appreciate that.
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Yeah, you're the baby by, like, what, four months? And
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that's not cool, dude. I don't know who you think
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you are.
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Something like that. Something like that. Oh, we're going to
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talk about the German socialists tonight. We've got to get
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into that because they're very, very mad that the conservatives
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won a very large chunk of their country's elections this week.
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We've got some science to get into. Yeah. Nuclear spaceships.
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I'm pretty excited about that one. That one's... Yeah.
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Yeah. An interesting tie-in, we'll get to it, but we
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definitely have to get to, again, another tie-in with AI,
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but AI apparently solved the Navier-Stokes problem, and I went
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deep on that one. That one intrigued me, and I'm
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not really sure why, because I really hadn't heard of
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the problem before this week, before it got solved, I guess.
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But the more I started learning about it, there's some interesting...
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offshoots on that one. So that, that'll be fun to
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talk about too.
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Oh, you're talking about the Navier Stokes problem. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That's that, that is, that was interesting in that little,
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that was a whole, that, that really started off the
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whole AI narrative of the week and everything just kind
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of spiraled from there. Yep. We do have to get into, uh,
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Donald Trump is buying our votes again. So is Tim
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Waltz in Minnesota. Pretty much everybody's trying to buy votes now.
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So that's going to be a thing. Yeah.
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This year, apparently the difference, the difference is, you know, Tim,
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Timmy never came through. Neither did Biden. They promised it
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and then they never they never paid up. I think
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Trump might pay.
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And again, let's not lose the the fact that this
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is our money that they're giving back to us. It's
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they're paying us back with tax dollars. It's not like
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it's coming out of Trump's bank account. You're not making
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five grand. You're just getting five grand that they already stole.
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Well, allegedly, allegedly, it's coming from all of those tariff dollars.
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The ones that we lost when everybody hiked up rates
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because of the tariffs. Ah, that was a Freudian slip. Terrorists.
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Ah, terrificists.
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We'll probably get into that a little bit, too, because
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that's a whole other clusterfuck. And our algorithms went fucking
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crazy this week, and I can't speak to why. And
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they're doing... It's almost like they're synced like women's periods
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at this point because yours starts doing something weird. And
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then I see the same thing and we haven't even
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I haven't even seen you post stuff. It just pops up. So, yeah,
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it's very strange. It's very strange.
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Yeah, we're definitely we're our cycles are definitely linked at
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this point. Yeah. But but also, you know, part of it,
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I think, was. A self-fulfilling prophecy. I mean, we all
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kind of said, hey, let's just fuck it. Let's have
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fun this week. You know, yes, the news is going
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to news.
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We know that.
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But let's... If you see something funny, call it out.
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Post it on the chat. And we had some fun
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this week. There was some really wacky shit that came up.
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Just keep it light. Just keep it light. Find the funny. Yeah.
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Let's get into beers. That's where we are now. So
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let's go and dive into that. Beers.
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I like beers.
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Yeah. I've got an offering from binary brewing, uh, mystery beer.
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So I'm not sure what I've got here. I, I
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pulled up there. They're a outfit out of Beaverton.
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Yes.
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I said beaver.
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Yeah.
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They're dead, which is just South of Portland up, up
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near Portland in Northern Oregon.
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I have, I've had a couple of their brews before.
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I have not been overly impressed. I mean, it's not,
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I'm not, disparaging them i just you know it's nothing
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where i'm like oh my god i have to i
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have to find them every time i get them but
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again it's a mystery beer i don't get to pick
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it it's uh it's from binary uh they they have
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kind of a cool gamer computer vibe going on with
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all their all their beers um which is which is
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fun so this one i don't know i was looking
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on the website which is just the exact same page
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that you're looking on there i don't know that it's
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any of these And I'm basing that completely off the
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color that it poured. And it poured like a very
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light pinkish, almost like a pink grapefruit. And it smells
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like a sour. And I didn't see a grapefruit sour
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on there or like a berry sour anywhere.
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I saw a mango, but that one was more of
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an IPA. So I don't know. It might be one
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that's just not on the page. So anyway, let's dive
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right in here.
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So you can go to binarybrewing.co. not. com,. co, buyanardbrewing.co.
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It's a sour for sure. Definitely dealing with a, I'm
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going to guess a kettle sour. Those tend to come
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out a bit more, They bite you in the back
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of the throat.
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I don't know why it's pink.
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I mean, I'm sure there's some reason, but I'm not
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getting like a strong fruit flavor from it or like
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a grapefruity.
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That's interesting.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It is. No fruit at all. No fruit at all.
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Not really. It's a solid sour, but I'm not getting
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any kind of fruit. Now, you know, I just.
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Ate 20 minutes ago, so maybe my palate is a
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little corrupted.
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I don't know. Okay, here we go.
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This is called Disco Berryade. This is a strawberry lemonade sour.
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Strawberry lemonade sour.
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It's a 5.5. Lots of tart. Lots of boogie. That's
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what the can says. Lots of boogie.
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Low on hops, low on malt, medium tart, and high
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on boogie. Bright strawberry dances with tart lemon in this
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refreshing sour ale. Disco may be dead, but this sour
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ale is the life of the party. I don't know.
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That's a tall claim. I tend to think I'm kind
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of the life of the party, but okay.
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Whatever, guys.
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Solid beer. Good, nice, easy start for tonight for me.
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I like that.
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Good sour.
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I'm digging it.
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All right.
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Good. Yeah. Good.
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What are you drinking?
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So I'm breaking protocol. My own protocol. Uh-oh. Yeah. This
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one's been sitting not at my home. It's been sitting
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in the beer place that I go to. Actually, this
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is from Brewco. I went up to Brewco this time.
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And I haven't wanted this beer. I'm like, God damn it.
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I'll just go and I'll get it. And maybe it's
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good for a show one night. We'll see. Because it's
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not what I typically go for. It is a Drecker,
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which is a fantastic brewery. So definitely go check out Drecker.
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This is Smooth or Die. It's the peanut butter milk stout.
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Oh.
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Oh. Interesting. And yeah, I'm not a peanut butter guy
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in beers. I'm really not. I think I had some
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a long time ago from Belching Beaver. possibly, and it
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kind of ruined me.
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Yeah, that one's not a good one.
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Yeah. Yeah, so I'm going to go ahead and give
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that a run. I can tell you right now the
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nose on it's really dry. It smells like a porter.
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And Trekker goes, like, over the top with everything, so
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I'd be curious to see what you think.
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They did a good job with this one.
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Very, very heavy mouthfeel, though. It pours black and very viscous.
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What's the ABV?
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Okay.
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Okay. I like it. I like it. And it's a
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very dirty peanut. It's a very dirty peanut. Almost like
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you just, right out of the shell, unprocessed, very clean,
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it's very earthy. They leaned into that quite a bit. Good,
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good beer though. Good beer. I wouldn't, I mean, it's,
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it's the nice thing about it for me is it's
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not a sweet milk stout. I don't like if it's
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a pastry stout, it better have some bourbon with it.
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Otherwise I'm not going to go. I can't really get,
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I have a hard time getting into it. This is dry.
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It's more like a porter. The mouth feels a lot
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better than, um, than a porter to me. I like it.
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Solid beer. Solid beer.
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Nice.
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And it's not overly done.
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You know what I, you know what I heard?
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What's that?
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They actually use squirrel poop for that beer. That's why
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it's so dirty.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah, that's what I heard.
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Wow. What was the evil twin that did the ferret droppings?
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's kind of where I was going
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with this.
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Yeah. Now I'm really intrigued. So I'm hoping the squirrel
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ate the peanuts, and then they pulled the peanuts out
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of the squirrel's poop and then threw it in there.
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Yeah, and then they just dropped it right into the beer.
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I mean, delicious.
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Yum.
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All right.
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Thank you, everybody, in chat tonight. We have Duchess, Lisa.
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I'm pretty sure it's Lisa. We have two instances of Lisa,
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I think. And then my brother's cheating on me. It's
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Ilyan Omar is the profile. I'm not sure.
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I got to say that's Aaron. But that's just my
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spidey senses going off.
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I don't know.
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I really don't know. Lisa has, well, there's ignore the
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Lisa behind the curtain. That could be one of them.
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And then the second one, smells like teen spirit. I
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don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's not Lisa. Maybe that's,
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because you could have Aaron as smells like teen spirit.
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And that could be Justin as my brother's cheating on me.
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Justin's been very quietly in chat. So I don't know.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Feel this out.
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He's been flying under the radar.
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Aaron smells like spices. Yes, he does. Aaron definitely smells
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like spices. I didn't get to tell you. Ember Forged.
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Aaron's spices came. And I was very, very pleasantly surprised.
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I will be using all three spices. There's a general.
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spice general use spice there's a barbecue and there's also
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a coffee steak one I'm gonna try them all out
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over the next probably starting tomorrow I think I tried
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to smoke some wings and I tried to use the
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general spice and I dry brined the wings and just
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completely fucked it up so it yeah that's completely it.
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Was just an absolute fail that's that's easy to do yeah.
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Yeah yeah so I'm looking forward to giving them a
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run tomorrow That's awesome. And Monday. So, yeah, very, very
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good stuff. Yeah, full support. High quality. I had to
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see it pod on Twitter on X. Go there. His
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spice line is Ember Forge Spices, so I highly suggest
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giving it a run. Yeah. It's very good stuff.
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And I had to say it is also spicy.
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Oh, he's very spicy.
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Spicy. Yeah, he's very, very, he's a spicy guy. He's
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a spicy kind of guy.
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All right. Speaking of spicy, let's, let's get into this
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AI business. So what ended up starting off this week
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was one of the, this anthropic researcher who, Decided to
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come out and quit after being at Anthropic for, I
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think he was like two months short of being vested.
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Six.
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He'd only been.
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There for six months or something. No, six weeks. He
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was only there six weeks.
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Was it six weeks? Six weeks.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So this guy comes out and he writes this gigantic
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long post that AI is a threat and, oh, my gosh,
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everything is going to come to an end. The world
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is going to come to an end. AI is going
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to kill everybody.
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Yep. And the next, he said, in the next three
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months or something. I mean, it was a dire prediction.
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Yeah. And everything, all the world is going to come
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to an end. His name is Jacob Coxon, C-O-X-O-N. He
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says he spent the last three years in pre-training research
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at OpenAI and then Anthropic. That's true. He's named a
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contributor on OpenAI's GPT-40 system card. That's as of October 2024.
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So this guy comes out. He just, oh my God,
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this is going to be terrible, and it's an existential threat,
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and we're all going to die. We need to slow down. Everybody,
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as soon as that pops up, all the MSMs start
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pushing all of this rhetoric that, that we have to
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slow down that this, this, well, and the whole world's
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going to end.
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And his, his original post got like 12 million views in,
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in two hours or something.
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I mean, it was fucking nuts.
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I mean, it was being just squirted in people's buttholes by, by,
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you know, algos and bots, 12 million views in two
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hours is crazy. And I think it, Now it's got
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like 128 million impressions or something.
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I mean, it's nuts.
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Here's the post. Jacob Coxon. I resigned from Anthropic today.
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I spent the last three years doing pre-training research at
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both OpenAI and Anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They
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are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives.
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Do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will
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soon be superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any
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field overnight, and acquire real power and resources. We have
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all witnessed the progress in each of these domains, and
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progress is not slowing. The people building AI earnestly believe
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that it could kill us all by the end of
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the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything,
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many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing. in
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the press to sound sensible, but I hear the same
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people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this
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level of danger. A common response is, if they truly
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believe this, why are they still building it? At OpenAI...
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Many have not deeply internalized the civilizational stakes. At Anthropic,
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the stakes are well understood, but they are locked in
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a race to get there first. They believe no one
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else will act responsibly, so they must do it themselves,
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despite the risk. Accepting this race and entering the endgame
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is a hubristic gamble that should not be launched from
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a private company's slack. And he's referring to Slack, the
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communication platform. Attempting to speed run alignment should require extraordinary
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confidence that there are no better trajectories available. I'm optimistic
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about the potential for coordination, warning shots like the hugging
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face attack. Now, we talked about hugging face on here
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a couple months back, back in July.
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Yeah.
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Have made pacing agreements between U.S. labs more viable. I
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don't feel like we're on track to prevent a global race,
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which may require costly actions such as a temporary ban
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on improving model capabilities. If you're a lab researcher, I
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urge you to consider what the next few years will
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actually feel like. Do you want to kick off a
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super intelligent real-life run without a rigorous understanding of what's
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in mind? Should you put your head down because it's
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happening anyway or take this moment to call for different conditions?
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So that's his post.
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Yeah, and what kills me about this is that, you know,
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there was an open letter initiated by Elon Musk and
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others when he pulled out of OpenAI because, you know,
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it was a company that he started with all the
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players that we know about.
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And he was like, well, this is moving too fast.
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Now I believe that was back in, I want to
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say 2021, 2022. I mean, we're talking years for sure. And,
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and it, I mean, it was signed by a bunch
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of people, but it got completely ignored. I mean, no,
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literally if anything, they just redoubled their efforts and, and made,
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made more progress. And so that's, that was my first
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clue of like, okay, The fact that this post is
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getting 12 million views, and it's now up to 168
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million views just on X. Who knows what else, where
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all the spinoffs and spawns that have come from this thing.
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But that was the first clue. I'm like, this isn't
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a new thought. This isn't a new fear.
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Not at all.
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But it's being brought to a new audience, I feel like.
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And that was the first key where I was like,
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this feels.
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A little PSYOP-y.
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It absolutely is psyop-y. It absolutely feels like that. Again,
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when we're talking about the narratives, the psyops things, you
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have to look at the timing of events. And let's
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not forget, this coming out in a very emotional week,
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the 25th anniversary of 9-11, and Hefe's birthday. So, you
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have to take the timing of this, you have to
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take that into account, right?
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Yeah, for sure.
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I think emotions are already high, more so for some
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people than others, but And I also.
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We'll get to that. I don't want to bury the
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lead here.
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The lead is that this guy most likely– I'm not
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saying he's not an insider. I will say that he's
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talking about, quote-unquote, these people who in private lives are
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very worried, and they speak differently, but in public they're–
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I can't imagine that he got that close to any
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of the leaders of these companies after only working– at
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a place for six weeks, you know what I mean?
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Or even three years, you're, you're a low level analyst, dude. I,
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so that, that was another clue of like, you're nobody, you're,
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you're literally a nobody. And you're talking like you were
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at the top, you know, levels of these companies and
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it's out of hand and we're all going to die.
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It's like, calm down.
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So we're going to go ahead and, uh, this is
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a post from Sayer G, um, At S-A-Y-E-R-J-I-G-M-I on X.
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Guy's done some pretty good analysis. Yeah, he goes deep.
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Pretty good investigation, yeah. This is the kind of investigation,
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the kind of stuff that everybody who's putting out these
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sensational CNN articles and MSNBC articles should be doing, but no.
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Yeah, they don't.
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They don't do this. They're going to stop.
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No.
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The researcher Jacob Coxon has... Yes, he did spend time
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at OpenAI. Yes, he did spend a couple of weeks
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or a few weeks at Anthropic. What is not noted,
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Coxon is a fellow of Newspeak House, a London college
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of political technology in Bethnal Green. Okay. So you can
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go back to the internet way back machine. You'll be
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able to get that as of 2022. Newspeak House isn't
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a normal fellowship. Its published mission is to train political technologists. Okay.
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So he's a talking head. He's a pundit. He's somebody
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who's going to report on technology. He's not somebody who's
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going to go out there and train on it. So
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for me right there, it doesn't line up. Its funders
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include Effective Altruism Infrastructure Fund, the same donor graph that
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produced Sam Bankman Freed's political operation.
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There you go.
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You know, One of the biggest sellouts in all of
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AI history, Sam Bankman Freed. And so you start associating,
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you start turning in the same circles as that fucking guy.
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Here we are.
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I mean, now we're getting down to the nitty gritty.
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And a huge donor of Democrats, a huge donor of socialists, right?
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That's Sam Bankman Freed.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yep.
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So here's something to go ahead and take into account. Now,
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they've been working on this for a really long time.
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Anthropic has a planned IPO. And they're planning on raising
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up to $ 100 billion with a $ 2 trillion valuation later
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in the year, like around fall. Four and a half
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hours later after this post, Wall Street Journal runs another
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anthropic story, an exclusive by their tech and crypto policy reporter,
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Amrith Ramkar, Coxon's Resignation. You can't tell me that you
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have that queued up and ready to go. You can't
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tell me it wasn't queued up and ready to go.
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You can't go out and do an exclusive article on
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this guy unless it was all planned. And he could
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have reached out to Wall Street Journal and said, hey,
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I'm going to do this at this time. Do you
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guys want the story? And Wall Street Journal, who's compromised,
499
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we know this. We talk about this a lot.
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Of course.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Same day, same paper, same beat, AI regulation, not AI safety.
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An IPO explainer and an insider warning exclusive hours apart.
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Coxon's post drops right after. This is the placement, not
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a coincidence. Now the preloaded legislation. Five days before Coxon's post,
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we talked about this last week, Senator Bernie Sanders and Rep.
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Greg Kasar announced the Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act. Which postures
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itself to completely shut down any artificial intelligence development and
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actually add prison sentences to anybody who is actually able
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to progress it. Anybody who's doing any research, anybody who's
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working on it, all of the indie folks. Yep.
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I mean, up to 20 years, dude.
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20 year sentence.
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Yes.
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Yeah. The bill would create a cabinet-level federal AI agency
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advised by an AI advisory board of experts. Quote, unquote, experts.
519
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Whoever gets those seats decides what dangerous AI is. Now,
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you remember back when Trump first came into office and
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he put together this AI team or this technology team
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and Peter Thiel was on it?
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Oh, yeah.
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Who's going to be on this board?
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Yeah, well, exactly.
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I mean, who's donating to Trump's campaigns? Who's donating to
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the Republicans? I mean, who's donating to any PAC right
528
00:28:47.349 --> 00:28:50.710
now at this point? This is so much jockeying. This
529
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is like the Truman Show, Minority Report, Matrix, Terminator. It's
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all of these movies that are in our pop culture,
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our vernacular, these shorthand things. Like when I say Truman Show,
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00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:07.200
you know exactly what I mean by that. When I
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say matrix, you know exactly the point, the concepts that
534
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are in it. So all of those big, high-level concepts
535
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shortened down into these big ideas. It's all of those
536
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all wrapped up into one news story here.
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We're looking at all of it.
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And like we kind of alluded to earlier in the show,
539
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this is so believable, and I think that it took
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off the way it did, A, because of the artificial
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pushing of it, but B, because this is a very
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real threat. I mean, it's, it's ridiculous that Bernie wants
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to criminalize this thing. I mean, that would be really
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political suicide or, you know, our whole country would be like, well,
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we're not going to participate in AI. Then we're going
546
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to get left the fuck behind because China ain't signing anything.
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any laws into effect like that. Russia, Iran isn't, or
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what's left of Iran, Korea isn't. So we're just going
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to bow out of that race and let you guys
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just go ahead and create quite possibly the ultimate, most
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earth-changing technology ever to be invented.
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Sure, yeah, you guys go play. We're going to take
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our ball and go home. Bullshit.
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Absolute bullshit. And I think Like they do with these bills,
555
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the wording on, on Bernie's sponsored bill.
556
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Is very strong. It's very over the top.
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And then there will be compromises made so that something
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gets put into place, but it won't be 20 years
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in federal prison. If you're caught, unless you're like you said,
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this independent mom and pop, you know, two computer scientists
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that met in, in college and fell in love and
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are just fucking around on the side, hoping that they
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create something amazing.
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I bet they get prosecuted to the full.
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Extent of the law, but these big companies, yeah, these
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big companies, these multi-trillion dollar IPOs will still continue.
567
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Absolutely.
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Now, keep in mind, the big narrative up until the last, well,
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probably the last, we'll say middle of August, I'm confident
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in that, data centers are bad. Data systems are so bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
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That was not working.
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Chinese propaganda.
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That was not working. So now this has to happen.
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This has to happen. Now that's interesting that you say
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that because I'm fully on board that that was Chinese propaganda.
576
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It absolutely was. I think that's pretty much been proven.
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And it went away.
578
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Yeah, we have proof of that.
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Because it's been called out. Now here's the kicker for me.
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Bill Gates.
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May 14th, 2026. This one got by our radar. We
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did not catch this. The Gates Foundation announced a $ 200
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million four-year partnership with Anthropic, its largest publicly disclosed direct
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partnership with a frontier AI lab.
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Oh.
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The plot thickens.
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Two weeks before Coxon's post on August 26th, sorry, two
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weeks before Coxon's post, on August 26th, Bill Gates published
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The turbulent AI era is here. On Gates' notes, this
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is his little blog. Framing AI loss of control as
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near-term policy question. The narrative infrastructure was pre-positioned across every layer.
592
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You have Gates who got out of the game a
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couple of months back. He's completely sold out of Microsoft.
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He's completely out of it. He's been really, really quiet lately.
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So now you've got Bill Gates who enters into it.
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I mean, pretty much, okay, Bill Gates is in the
597
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middle of it. It's going to be bad. It's going
598
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to be bad. We've already established this. This is not the.
599
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Coolest dude on the block. We know, yeah, he's not
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a good person. We know this.
601
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And all of this is speculative. A lot of this
602
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is alleged, right?
603
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Yeah, I mean, that's true.
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But also, you know, A, the internet has an infinite
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memory and people have the time and inclination to go
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back and find these things. b information is traveling so
607
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quickly and i and i think again the way this
608
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came out the way it spread so artificially it's it
609
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sent and i didn't even have time to give to
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it and i was still going i don't this something's
611
00:33:31.269 --> 00:33:34.660
triggering my spidey senses here something is is making me
612
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think that this is not a a true story but
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something that is is being used to push a narrative
614
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and then Of course, all the other people that are
615
00:33:44.130 --> 00:33:46.089
way smarter than me and have more time than I
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do found that that's probably what's going on. And again,
617
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like you said, this is all alleged. We don't have
618
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any proof proof. But, you know, as we say on
619
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the show before, if it smells like a duck and
620
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walks like a duck, probably it's not an AI chicken.
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We're dealing with a duck here. And I think it
622
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probably needs, at the very least, it needs more inspection.
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And maybe even more than that, It's something that we
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keep an eye on. And when I say we, I
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00:34:15.780 --> 00:34:20.130
mean just the podcasting community, the community of folks that
626
00:34:20.150 --> 00:34:22.210
are out here trying to find the truth of things.
627
00:34:22.809 --> 00:34:25.849
This is definitely one that can't– we can't forget about
628
00:34:25.889 --> 00:34:28.630
this one. Like we can't squirrel and go run to
629
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the next news story. This one we've got to keep
630
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an eye on.
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00:34:30.789 --> 00:34:33.320
All right.
632
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:39.590
So that's the narrative. I think we can call it
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100% narrative, right?
634
00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:43.809
That much is clear.
635
00:34:43.969 --> 00:34:45.469
So let's go ahead and take a look at the
636
00:34:45.489 --> 00:34:49.239
whole concept. So let's stop AI right in its tracks.
637
00:34:51.059 --> 00:34:55.960
Let's just stop it. Why do you have safety concerns?
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00:34:56.420 --> 00:35:00.940
Which I think we agree that there are safety concerns, right?
639
00:35:01.070 --> 00:35:04.090
We need to be very careful, and I don't know
640
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why anybody would trust government oversight for one or companies
641
00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:12.309
who are in it for money to not do some
642
00:35:12.329 --> 00:35:13.070
kind of shady shit.
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I think that's, well, yes, I a hundred percent agree.
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And just to piggyback off of that, I think I,
645
00:35:23.690 --> 00:35:28.409
do you remember, do you remember the line in Jurassic park? Right.
646
00:35:29.230 --> 00:35:31.309
But they're, they're, they're all in the, in the hall.
647
00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:32.949
They've seen that the dinosaurs are real.
648
00:35:34.309 --> 00:35:41.500
And then what's-his-name's character, Jeff Goldblum's character is like– it's
649
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.059
absolute hubris to think that you can.
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Control this thing, and that was his basic argument. And
651
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I agree.
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00:35:47.940 --> 00:35:50.000
I think that's where we're at with– to say, well,
653
00:35:50.019 --> 00:35:52.340
we're going to hand all oversight over to the government,
654
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:57.139
and that'll take care of it is absolutely ridiculous. I
655
00:35:57.820 --> 00:36:00.949
just want to throw out a quick plug here. Joe
656
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Rogan– had a guy named Daniel Cocatillo, something like that.
657
00:36:08.469 --> 00:36:12.250
He's the executive director of the AI Future Project. And
658
00:36:12.389 --> 00:36:15.909
his whole job is basically to set up these scenarios
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of AI and.
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What happens if it gets out.
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00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.639
As part of that job, he's been watching these companies
662
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very closely. And the stuff that happened with Hugging Face,
663
00:36:27.539 --> 00:36:31.969
he breaks it down in the show. Because he's gone
664
00:36:32.010 --> 00:36:33.750
back and he actually went and looked at the source
665
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code and he looked at the entire transcript of the
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code and what happened with these– he calls them agents.
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00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.420
But these AI protocols that are running a program and
668
00:36:45.460 --> 00:36:47.360
the game that was set up, he describes it very
669
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.719
well in very simple language, so you're not going to
670
00:36:49.739 --> 00:36:52.579
get lost. But he describes the games that were set
671
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up and the way that the agents were going to
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00:36:55.059 --> 00:36:58.760
score points and then what these agents started to do.
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They set up their own message board. which is fucking wild.
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That was not part of their programming. They set up
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a message board so that they could teach future versions
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of themselves what their mistakes were. And from there, the
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00:37:11.650 --> 00:37:14.909
story fucking gets wild. So that is all to say,
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number one, I think everyone owes it to themselves to
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go out and listen to this guy. It was a
680
00:37:18.929 --> 00:37:22.980
very good interview. And by the end of it, you're shook.
681
00:37:23.460 --> 00:37:26.199
Everyone's shook by the end of that interview. But secondly,
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to think that you can, we just won't connect them
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to the internet.
684
00:37:32.090 --> 00:37:32.530
Oh, okay.
685
00:37:32.550 --> 00:37:33.280
How'd that work out?
686
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Cause they figured out a way to break out of
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their sandbox. There, there was zero connection to the outside
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world and they figured it out anyway. So that is,
689
00:37:43.070 --> 00:37:45.630
it is, it is just such hubris. And again, it's very,
690
00:37:45.670 --> 00:37:46.909
that's a very human thing to do.
691
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Ah, we can control it. It's no big deal.
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It's just it.
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00:37:49.869 --> 00:37:52.030
It's just a man eating lion. We can keep it
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00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.559
in the zoo, right? No big deal. And, and here
695
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we are. So anyway, I wanted to get to that
696
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before we got too far down the road. Very good interview.
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Very frightening.
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This is a real threat that doesn't take away the
699
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fact that this is all a narrative.
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It is real, just like the robots. It's like when
701
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we start off the show, yeah, which robot do you
702
00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:15.030
want to be killed by? An American robot or a
703
00:38:15.050 --> 00:38:20.469
Chinese robot? We were sharing that in jest. Yes, this
704
00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:23.829
should be a concern, but any kind of new technology
705
00:38:23.849 --> 00:38:27.829
you should be concerned about. New energy. You should be
706
00:38:27.849 --> 00:38:30.429
concerned about it. We should all be concerned about drones.
707
00:38:30.510 --> 00:38:33.110
Nobody's freaking out over drones, even though I can go
708
00:38:33.139 --> 00:38:35.519
ahead and I can get a $ 20 drone and I
709
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can fly with my little camera on it over somebody's
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house and peep their wife. Or, you know, I can
711
00:38:40.739 --> 00:38:43.039
do all kinds of shady shit with that. But nobody
712
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:43.960
freaks out over that.
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00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:47.570
You could load it with anthrax and spray a city.
714
00:38:48.050 --> 00:38:48.190
Yes.
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00:38:48.210 --> 00:38:49.949
There's all kinds of stuff you could do with it.
716
00:38:49.949 --> 00:38:50.829
Yeah.
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But nobody's banning that. So, okay. Good point.
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Good point.
719
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.639
So you've got that angle on it. I know. I
720
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.039
don't think it's I think this is one of those
721
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things that you can't contain it. You can you can
722
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.909
only hope to you can only hope to contain it.
723
00:39:06.949 --> 00:39:09.739
You can't you can't stop it. You can only hope
724
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to guide it at this point. Two things that my
725
00:39:15.809 --> 00:39:20.050
on my my takeaway, there's there's two things. One, let's
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go ahead and stop it and let China run ahead.
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00:39:22.110 --> 00:39:25.230
I think that's I think that's a huge problem. Two,
728
00:39:25.250 --> 00:39:28.199
I think you've got a financial factor where I think OpenAI,
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00:39:28.219 --> 00:39:31.300
and I don't have this for sure, I am on
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board with OpenAI and Anthropic both hemorrhaging money, and I
731
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.900
don't think they're getting anything out of this that they
732
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.780
thought they were going to. Not yet.
733
00:39:40.980 --> 00:39:44.960
Not yet, because I think what they're doing, and this
734
00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:46.800
is going to go to your point you're about to make,
735
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:49.539
I think what they're doing is they're trying to poise
736
00:39:49.579 --> 00:39:53.880
themselves so that when they are ready, they can literally
737
00:39:53.940 --> 00:39:57.000
release this and it will take over 70, 80% of
738
00:39:57.019 --> 00:39:59.800
the jobs out there overnight. I mean, I'm talking in
739
00:39:59.820 --> 00:40:02.550
a week's time, millions of people are out of a
740
00:40:02.570 --> 00:40:07.570
job and these companies will be just raking in because these,
741
00:40:07.829 --> 00:40:10.909
these agents will be able to do the job faster
742
00:40:10.929 --> 00:40:13.010
and better than humans will be able to, but they're
743
00:40:13.050 --> 00:40:16.010
not there yet. And so they're biding their time and
744
00:40:16.050 --> 00:40:18.579
then go ahead and, and, and, close the cinch on
745
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:20.280
the rest of this story because this is where it
746
00:40:20.340 --> 00:40:22.199
really comes full circle.
747
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.559
Here's Sam Altman backpedaling.
748
00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:27.059
Business pressure?
749
00:40:27.099 --> 00:40:29.860
I mean, you're looking at a trillion dollar IPO. I'm
750
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.130
curious if that's still a priority for you.
751
00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:34.340
As we've said, we're not rushing into an IPO. I
752
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:39.820
actually think that given everything happening with safety, this would be,
753
00:40:40.179 --> 00:40:42.730
right now would be an ill-advised moment to go public.
754
00:40:42.989 --> 00:40:44.630
And we don't feel pressure on that. We've said for
755
00:40:44.650 --> 00:40:46.230
a long time, we'll do it when we're ready, which
756
00:40:46.289 --> 00:40:48.400
is when the business is ready. when we feel ready
757
00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:51.059
from a kind of what the moment is like in
758
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:55.519
society with this technology. That sounds like not 2026, 2027 potential.
759
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:56.360
I would say not 2026.
760
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:56.800
Yeah.
761
00:40:56.860 --> 00:40:58.199
I don't like, we got a lot of stuff to
762
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:03.869
do and like meeting this moment of what is going
763
00:41:03.889 --> 00:41:10.889
to be required for safety and alignment and how the
764
00:41:10.949 --> 00:41:12.929
industry and governments can work together. I'm happy to be
765
00:41:12.969 --> 00:41:17.050
able to do that as a private company. We do
766
00:41:17.090 --> 00:41:20.929
want to continue to make better models and products, and
767
00:41:20.949 --> 00:41:24.420
we do believe in iterative deployment. And I think we
768
00:41:24.460 --> 00:41:26.840
have been right that society needs to contend with these
769
00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:30.079
models at each level of capability. But that is different
770
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.639
from saying we will just barrel full steam ahead. We've
771
00:41:32.659 --> 00:41:36.389
talked in the last couple of months about pausing runs
772
00:41:36.429 --> 00:41:38.449
as we get to these new level of capabilities to
773
00:41:38.469 --> 00:41:40.389
make more safety and alignment progress. We will do more
774
00:41:40.429 --> 00:41:43.230
of that going forward. We have talked about the need
775
00:41:43.269 --> 00:41:48.099
for the industry to come together and ideally international governments
776
00:41:48.139 --> 00:41:51.889
to come together. I think that is also important, but
777
00:41:51.969 --> 00:41:53.969
we are, you know, we have put up with this
778
00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:57.489
incredibly complicated structure for a long time. And this moment
779
00:41:57.510 --> 00:42:01.110
that we're in now is kind of why we need
780
00:42:01.130 --> 00:42:04.469
to be able to make decisions that are not obviously
781
00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:07.369
in the interest of our business and our shareholders for
782
00:42:09.849 --> 00:42:12.260
the responsibility of fulfilling our mission and what that's going
783
00:42:12.300 --> 00:42:14.960
to require. And I think people should be happy that
784
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.449
we are able and willing to not just race ahead.
785
00:42:21.610 --> 00:42:29.809
Sam Alton was adamant, adamantly against any kind of... He
786
00:42:29.829 --> 00:42:33.230
wanted to have nothing to do with safety two years ago,
787
00:42:33.250 --> 00:42:35.809
to your point about Elon's letter.
788
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.760
Yeah, he would not sign it. He would not sign it. Yeah,
789
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.889
and it also is very....
790
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.780
And this is this has happened in history before. And
791
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.559
so if if I'm first of all, let me set
792
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:49.880
this up.
793
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:51.440
U.S.
794
00:42:51.739 --> 00:42:55.030
Through, you know, just because of we had some defecting
795
00:42:55.550 --> 00:42:58.530
Nazi scientists and not just because of that, but but
796
00:42:58.650 --> 00:43:01.409
a big part of of the reason we had nukes
797
00:43:01.469 --> 00:43:05.590
first was defecting, you know, German scientists and Nazi scientists
798
00:43:05.610 --> 00:43:06.699
coming over to the U.S.
799
00:43:07.260 --> 00:43:10.219
That's, you know, Operation Paperclip. That's well documented.
800
00:43:10.940 --> 00:43:13.550
So we we come up with the nuke. And a
801
00:43:13.750 --> 00:43:16.590
few other countries do kind of simultaneously. But then as
802
00:43:16.630 --> 00:43:18.570
soon as it got to the point where we're like,
803
00:43:18.610 --> 00:43:21.789
all right, no one else. Look, we have the nukes.
804
00:43:22.429 --> 00:43:26.329
China or not China, but all these other countries, you
805
00:43:26.349 --> 00:43:28.809
all have to sign this treaty that we're not going
806
00:43:28.829 --> 00:43:30.909
to make any more nukes, but you're not allowed to
807
00:43:30.969 --> 00:43:31.610
have any at all.
808
00:43:31.929 --> 00:43:32.050
Right.
809
00:43:32.090 --> 00:43:34.710
I mean, that's that's one of the pretenses of why
810
00:43:34.730 --> 00:43:35.369
we're in Iran.
811
00:43:36.030 --> 00:43:36.429
So it's like.
812
00:43:36.980 --> 00:43:38.610
We invented the thing and we get to have it.
813
00:43:38.659 --> 00:43:40.820
Now you don't. And we did that with oil as well.
814
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:46.059
Hey, we just built an entire society off of coal
815
00:43:46.099 --> 00:43:53.840
and oil. But India, we're going to put major roadblocks.
816
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:52.500
In your way.
817
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.219
You need to stop polluting China. You need to stop polluting.
818
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.260
And they were like, fuck you. You built a first
819
00:43:59.300 --> 00:44:02.219
world country on the back of coal and on the
820
00:44:02.260 --> 00:44:02.840
back of oil.
821
00:44:03.460 --> 00:44:03.840
Fuck you.
822
00:44:03.889 --> 00:44:08.510
We're not going to curtail our... Emissions because of global warming.
823
00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:11.260
Fuck that. And they have not. They have only ramped up.
824
00:44:11.900 --> 00:44:16.480
And they did that while fueling research in green energy
825
00:44:16.539 --> 00:44:24.260
and pushing green legislation on all Western civilization, Western nations.
826
00:44:24.900 --> 00:44:27.780
So you had it from both angles. And that's why
827
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.320
when we're talking about the data center business, they were
828
00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:33.780
pushing that, too. I want to know where they're involved
829
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.480
in this. Because if Bernie shuts it down.
830
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:36.920
Exactly.
831
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:37.519
Yep.
832
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.130
That's where I'm going with this. Is here we are again. That, hey,
833
00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:44.710
I mean, because Altman said it. We'd really like all.
834
00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:46.690
The countries to come together and sign this treaty.
835
00:44:47.150 --> 00:44:51.090
If I'm China, if I'm India, if I'm Russia, fuck you.
836
00:44:51.130 --> 00:44:53.309
I'm not signing a goddamn treaty. You guys can go
837
00:44:53.349 --> 00:44:56.010
play over there with your treaties. We're going to build
838
00:44:56.050 --> 00:45:00.079
the best, fastest, biggest AI we can to crush you.
839
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:00.960
Period.
840
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:01.739
We've already been.
841
00:45:02.670 --> 00:45:05.349
fucked over by you many times with the nukes and
842
00:45:05.409 --> 00:45:07.550
with everything else. We're not going to let you just
843
00:45:08.329 --> 00:45:11.090
take the lead on everything forever. You're not, you're not
844
00:45:11.130 --> 00:45:13.670
the world cops you used to be, but you're not anymore.
845
00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:16.010
And so that's where I was kind of going with
846
00:45:16.090 --> 00:45:19.159
all that is like, you, you have, you have a
847
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.420
constant push and pull with technology and, and as it
848
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.400
should be. And we are, we are compelled to excel
849
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.480
because our neighbor is catching us, right? This is, this
850
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.670
is a, uh, a marathon run, and you hear the
851
00:45:35.690 --> 00:45:37.889
crowd cheering really loud behind you because someone's coming up
852
00:45:37.929 --> 00:45:41.510
from behind, you start to run faster, and that's right
853
00:45:41.530 --> 00:45:43.639
at the moment we're at. We've got a mile left
854
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.639
in this thing, and everybody's cheering their favorite runner on,
855
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:48.820
and everyone's going to push.
856
00:45:49.940 --> 00:45:52.380
Speaking of coming from behind, Hefe.
857
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.039
There you go.
858
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:56.099
Just using the bathroom here.
859
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:58.380
Oh, good.
860
00:45:58.900 --> 00:45:59.460
You're welcome.
861
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:01.480
I love it when we get to.
862
00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:07.769
You want to get the phone in there for us too?
863
00:46:08.650 --> 00:46:09.949
No, we're good.
864
00:46:10.670 --> 00:46:11.949
Is anybody else in the bathroom with you?
865
00:46:12.750 --> 00:46:17.210
No, otherwise I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have.
866
00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:22.670
I'm also very... Yeah, come on, McShane. That's absurd. That's absurd.
867
00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:23.489
Happy birthday.
868
00:46:23.510 --> 00:46:24.880
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
869
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.469
Yeah, you've had a very eventful week. What's it like
870
00:46:37.510 --> 00:46:38.429
being 39 again?
871
00:46:41.710 --> 00:46:47.670
It's not what I expected. Really? But, you know, I
872
00:46:48.570 --> 00:46:52.639
feel like it's the first time was like an audition
873
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.400
kind of a thing or a dry run. And now
874
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.139
I'm coming back through. I'm going to do it better
875
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.800
this time. My late 30s, my mid to early 30s
876
00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:01.230
and so on.
877
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:03.880
Yeah.
878
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:10.199
No, I like that. McShane and Hefe, I'm just going
879
00:47:10.219 --> 00:47:12.860
to say it. I'm jealous, okay?
880
00:47:13.980 --> 00:47:17.949
I am insanely jealous. All through my 30s, you guys know,
881
00:47:19.969 --> 00:47:22.590
I wished for and I asked for every single.
882
00:47:22.349 --> 00:47:23.610
Birthday, I asked for one thing.
883
00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:24.909
You did.
884
00:47:25.070 --> 00:47:26.849
And I never got it.
885
00:47:27.849 --> 00:47:30.699
And then Hefe rolls around in his second trip through
886
00:47:30.739 --> 00:47:31.940
his 30s and he gets it.
887
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:33.260
Okay.
888
00:47:33.340 --> 00:47:35.800
And that's, we all know what it is. It's a MRS.
889
00:47:37.059 --> 00:47:37.659
It's a MRS.
890
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:45.239
What's it like? What's it like having, having your dick
891
00:47:45.260 --> 00:47:47.739
in your hand peeing while we're, while we're discussing your
892
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:48.320
man bag?
893
00:47:49.219 --> 00:47:52.420
Oh, I'm out of the bathroom. It was a quick
894
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:52.880
in and out.
895
00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:54.800
You didn't wash your hands. What the hell?
896
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:55.739
I did.
897
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:55.980
Yes.
898
00:47:56.739 --> 00:47:57.199
Did you really?
899
00:47:57.219 --> 00:48:03.289
Yeah. I, I joined you mid-pee, so... Oh. I wasn't, like,
900
00:48:03.329 --> 00:48:05.489
walking through the hallways and then going to the bathroom.
901
00:48:05.550 --> 00:48:10.869
I was already deep in, knee-deep. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah,
902
00:48:10.949 --> 00:48:12.550
the man bag, the man purse.
903
00:48:12.590 --> 00:48:12.989
The murse.
904
00:48:15.070 --> 00:48:18.309
Walk us through it. How did this come about? How
905
00:48:18.349 --> 00:48:21.489
do you feel about it? Do you feel.
906
00:48:21.730 --> 00:48:25.809
So it's... Obviously, it was my birthday, and this co-worker, very.
907
00:48:30.949 --> 00:48:35.969
Kind, generous coworker decided to give me a gift. And
908
00:48:38.070 --> 00:48:41.230
obviously this particular person doesn't know who she's dealing with.
909
00:48:42.429 --> 00:48:42.610
Nope.
910
00:48:42.889 --> 00:48:49.469
Because she never has too bad for her. But like, if,
911
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.960
if you could make a list of gifts not to
912
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.059
give me, I got a top 10. This would be
913
00:48:56.099 --> 00:48:56.360
in there.
914
00:48:57.909 --> 00:49:03.110
I don't oh come on now hey f8 f8 i'm
915
00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:06.489
gonna can i i i'm gonna read you a list
916
00:49:06.530 --> 00:49:07.869
of names and i want you to tell me what
917
00:49:07.889 --> 00:49:13.050
they all have in common okay okay okay harry styles
918
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:19.460
hold on pedro pascal pharrell williams jared leto bad bunny
919
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.199
Charles Melton.
920
00:49:21.780 --> 00:49:28.659
Kit O'Connor. Robert Pattinson. Stanley Tucci. David Beckham. LeBron James.
921
00:49:28.739 --> 00:49:30.550
Travis Kelsey. Dwayne Wade.
922
00:49:32.389 --> 00:49:38.650
Cristiano Ronaldo. Lionel Messi. What do all these people have
923
00:49:38.690 --> 00:49:39.070
in common?
924
00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:43.829
Well, two things come to mind. One, all of those
925
00:49:43.869 --> 00:49:48.329
people have exponentially more money than I do. That is correct.
926
00:49:48.429 --> 00:49:50.150
And two, they all probably wear man bags.
927
00:49:50.750 --> 00:49:51.289
Yes, sir.
928
00:49:52.230 --> 00:49:52.789
Yes, sir.
929
00:49:53.010 --> 00:49:54.590
Here's the thing. Hold on.
930
00:49:54.610 --> 00:49:58.000
Because you are now on that list, sir. You are
931
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:03.440
now on that list. And you're now on that list. Now,
932
00:50:03.500 --> 00:50:06.119
we're going to get you the money, okay? That's coming.
933
00:50:06.860 --> 00:50:10.280
Because this is a reverse psychology thing. Some people make
934
00:50:10.300 --> 00:50:11.900
the money, then they buy the man bag.
935
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.659
Not Hefe. Not our boy Hefe. He gets the man bag,
936
00:50:15.820 --> 00:50:16.659
then he gets the money.
937
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:18.159
So I got to hang on to this thing?
938
00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:21.590
You didn't start rocking that. Are you kidding me?
939
00:50:21.699 --> 00:50:22.969
Oh, it's you.
940
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:24.190
Dude.
941
00:50:25.309 --> 00:50:29.869
The man bag makes the man. That's quoted in chat
942
00:50:29.909 --> 00:50:30.230
right now.
943
00:50:31.289 --> 00:50:34.190
You need to lean into this because of all your
944
00:50:34.250 --> 00:50:37.230
brothers in solidarity. They leaned into this for you. They
945
00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:42.119
paved the way. This is like Martin Luther King type shit.
946
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:49.789
David Beckham, LeBron James, Travis Kelsey. Travis fucking Kelsey. Big, bad,
947
00:50:51.309 --> 00:50:54.949
the big number two Swifty on the planet. Dwayne Wade.
948
00:50:56.949 --> 00:50:59.909
Come on, dude. You have to watch this daily.
949
00:51:01.179 --> 00:51:03.980
McShane, is it too much to say that Hefe is
950
00:51:04.059 --> 00:51:06.699
the Travis Kelsey of casino dealers?
951
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.840
No. Oh, my God, yes.
952
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:09.840
What?
953
00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:10.000
Yes.
954
00:51:10.019 --> 00:51:12.000
The fuck?
955
00:51:12.380 --> 00:51:16.480
Or he's kind of the David Beckham, actually, because he.
956
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:17.920
Does have more of a Beckham look.
957
00:51:18.739 --> 00:51:20.539
He does have a little bit of a Beckham look.
958
00:51:20.579 --> 00:51:23.380
He's got the hair. Especially when he's got the 5
959
00:51:23.380 --> 00:51:25.280
o'clock shadow and a little bit of a goatee going on,
960
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.690
he's very close to Beckham. And he does bend it
961
00:51:28.849 --> 00:51:30.849
like Beckham, too. He does bend it like Beckham.
962
00:51:30.869 --> 00:51:33.610
Wait, how many? Which one of those guys? Hold on.
963
00:51:33.750 --> 00:51:41.769
Which one of those guys had the most kids? I think,
964
00:51:42.150 --> 00:51:44.710
I think Beckham, I think you're right. I think Beckham and,
965
00:51:45.369 --> 00:51:48.610
and Victoria had three or four. And I think they
966
00:51:48.650 --> 00:51:52.920
adopted like another, I think they got, you know, two
967
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.239
dozen for 20 bucks or something like that from Africa.
968
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.699
So I think they've got a lot of kids. So yeah,
969
00:51:57.739 --> 00:52:00.260
let's go Beckham. I like that. You're the David Beckham
970
00:52:01.019 --> 00:52:02.760
of casino dealers.
971
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:08.130
Oh my God. That's I'm honored. Hey, of course you are.
972
00:52:08.500 --> 00:52:13.269
Does everybody listening in right now have access to the
973
00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:16.750
RazorWire chat on our signal?
974
00:52:17.570 --> 00:52:18.329
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
975
00:52:18.670 --> 00:52:19.150
Oh, yeah.
976
00:52:19.230 --> 00:52:22.050
Okay. You want to see the bag? Yeah.
977
00:52:22.829 --> 00:52:26.449
RazorWire exclusive. Here we go. If you're in RazorWire News,
978
00:52:26.489 --> 00:52:30.559
if you're in RazorWireNews.com, you get to see what Hefe's
979
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.719
bag looks like. There you go.
980
00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:38.559
And then there's a close-up.
981
00:52:40.179 --> 00:52:41.079
Oh, shit.
982
00:52:41.179 --> 00:52:44.219
I love that it's hanging on the closet. Place of honor.
983
00:52:46.059 --> 00:52:47.440
So that's just.
984
00:52:48.460 --> 00:52:51.329
I'll go ahead and include what the bag did to me.
985
00:52:52.590 --> 00:52:53.210
There we go.
986
00:52:54.110 --> 00:52:58.409
Lisa... There it is. Hey! That's the money shot.
987
00:52:58.829 --> 00:52:59.570
Instant gay.
988
00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:03.510
Lisa said that that's an outright purse. It's not even
989
00:53:03.530 --> 00:53:04.860
a man purse. It's not even a murse.
990
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:06.659
Exactly.
991
00:53:06.940 --> 00:53:10.949
Lisa's called it. Yeah, that's a purse. I agree.
992
00:53:11.349 --> 00:53:14.050
That's why I asked you guys, do you think this
993
00:53:14.090 --> 00:53:17.690
girl is trolling me? It really feels like it. And
994
00:53:17.750 --> 00:53:19.789
I know it's giving her too much credit.
995
00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:21.409
Yeah, she's not that smart.
996
00:53:21.909 --> 00:53:23.500
And she's not... I mean.
997
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:23.579
We.
998
00:53:25.690 --> 00:53:27.610
Dude, we talked about this on the phone. This was
999
00:53:27.670 --> 00:53:30.940
the most, this might be, I mean, it's for sure
1000
00:53:30.980 --> 00:53:34.760
top 10. It might be top five most narcissistic things
1001
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:36.179
I've ever seen in my life.
1002
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:38.099
Because this was all about her.
1003
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.800
Yes, she gave it to you for your birthday, but
1004
00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:43.360
it was about what she did for you.
1005
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:48.780
This is a person that has her own little business
1006
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:53.050
with selling these bags. And she insisted on me wearing
1007
00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:54.349
it to work.
1008
00:53:56.469 --> 00:53:56.829
Why?
1009
00:53:58.130 --> 00:53:59.230
Probably to get more business.
1010
00:54:00.250 --> 00:54:00.489
Yeah.
1011
00:54:00.510 --> 00:54:02.389
That probably is a bottom line thing.
1012
00:54:02.409 --> 00:54:05.789
Lisa wants to know if you got a chess set
1013
00:54:05.829 --> 00:54:12.590
with it. Oh, shit.
1014
00:54:13.389 --> 00:54:17.570
I would love, I would love, Hefe, if you did
1015
00:54:17.630 --> 00:54:20.710
wear that and someone came running up to you. Some
1016
00:54:20.829 --> 00:54:24.570
RuPaul figure came running up and was like, oh my god, queen,
1017
00:54:24.610 --> 00:54:26.010
where did you get that purse?
1018
00:54:26.869 --> 00:54:29.719
I need you to record that when it happens.
1019
00:54:30.300 --> 00:54:30.420
Oh.
1020
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.900
Now, Lisa, come on. Don't forget who you're dealing with here.
1021
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:36.940
It's checkers, not chess.
1022
00:54:40.809 --> 00:54:42.869
I think this is either Aaron or Justin. I still
1023
00:54:42.889 --> 00:54:47.130
don't know. Hefe's humiliation ritual has begun. You're about to
1024
00:54:47.170 --> 00:54:47.670
go huge.
1025
00:54:47.750 --> 00:54:50.969
I told you. You're going to hit it big, dude.
1026
00:54:52.309 --> 00:54:55.579
Next thing, you're going to be the LeBron James photograph
1027
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:57.179
in the French maid outfit, dude.
1028
00:54:57.219 --> 00:54:58.199
You've made it.
1029
00:54:58.360 --> 00:54:58.880
God.
1030
00:54:59.039 --> 00:54:59.730
You've made it.
1031
00:55:00.500 --> 00:55:01.079
I don't know.
1032
00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:02.139
No.
1033
00:55:02.500 --> 00:55:03.320
It's not legit.
1034
00:55:03.340 --> 00:55:08.070
Duchess is asking if it's a legit Louis Vuitton.
1035
00:55:08.170 --> 00:55:09.150
No, it is not.
1036
00:55:09.710 --> 00:55:12.690
Again, she must be such a good friend of yours
1037
00:55:12.769 --> 00:55:15.400
to know you so well. to get you that or
1038
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.079
to make that for you. Cause I, dude, I told
1039
00:55:19.139 --> 00:55:21.960
you Steve and I had one picked out for you
1040
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:26.860
on Amazon. And it was, you know, in hindsight, McShane,
1041
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:32.130
it was too flashy, too many rhinestones. I think we
1042
00:55:32.150 --> 00:55:34.550
went too over the top with it. And I, and I, but,
1043
00:55:34.789 --> 00:55:37.389
but this friend of Hefe's really nailed it and got
1044
00:55:37.429 --> 00:55:39.829
his personality just.
1045
00:55:40.030 --> 00:55:44.449
Perfectly encapsulated in, in, in a purse, which is, I mean,
1046
00:55:44.489 --> 00:55:45.969
it's lovely. It's just lovely.
1047
00:55:46.610 --> 00:55:50.269
That's saying something. Mission accomplished.
1048
00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:52.010
Yep, exactly.
1049
00:55:52.030 --> 00:55:54.989
Wow.
1050
00:55:55.389 --> 00:56:02.719
Cafe, you have new AI art being added to Razor Chat.
1051
00:56:05.420 --> 00:56:08.289
And you are definitely the queen. That's what....
1052
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:10.980
You go, queen.
1053
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:13.900
I had no idea she sent you.
1054
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:20.579
Oh my god.
1055
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.239
That's amazing.
1056
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:26.389
I'm telling you dude my original idea of you just
1057
00:56:26.429 --> 00:56:28.630
hawking it for like whatever cash you can get and
1058
00:56:28.650 --> 00:56:31.829
then put it all down on you know some long
1059
00:56:31.869 --> 00:56:33.230
shot to win the Super Bowl or something I mean
1060
00:56:33.250 --> 00:56:36.650
at least then if you won it would be worth something.
1061
00:56:36.789 --> 00:56:44.400
Yeah oh man wow this has been This has been
1062
00:56:44.460 --> 00:56:47.860
an adventure. This show kicks ass.
1063
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.239
Thank you. Thank you for taking us along the adventure
1064
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:51.659
with you.
1065
00:56:53.760 --> 00:57:01.510
This particular person was an employee here, and she's coming back.
1066
00:57:02.949 --> 00:57:04.969
I don't know how to handle this. I mean, I
1067
00:57:05.010 --> 00:57:09.239
do know how to handle it, but she's expecting me
1068
00:57:09.260 --> 00:57:11.980
to wear this thing to work next week, and I'm
1069
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.119
going to have to have a talk with her. Like,
1070
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:16.460
I don't know if you know who you're dealing with here.
1071
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:21.139
It's Hefe. Not Hefe.
1072
00:57:21.380 --> 00:57:25.860
I mean, maybe, maybe. Stick with me here. Maybe she
1073
00:57:25.900 --> 00:57:27.909
could sew on a Dallas Cowboys patch on it.
1074
00:57:32.730 --> 00:57:34.130
That would make it less gay?
1075
00:57:34.630 --> 00:57:37.190
No, no. That's going to make it way more gay.
1076
00:57:38.610 --> 00:57:41.710
You're going to be one step from RuPaul at that point.
1077
00:57:41.730 --> 00:57:42.889
You might as well just cash it in.
1078
00:57:44.309 --> 00:57:44.690
Oh, shit.
1079
00:57:44.750 --> 00:57:48.340
And you're going to get a losing record on top
1080
00:57:48.380 --> 00:57:50.699
of it. Oh, man.
1081
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:56.659
Dude, I will say this thing is a setup for
1082
00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:00.260
endless jokes. I mean, this will never go away. I
1083
00:58:00.340 --> 00:58:03.059
will be on my deathbed saying, Hefe, show me the
1084
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.829
murse again. Let me see it one more time.
1085
00:58:06.030 --> 00:58:06.809
One last time.
1086
00:58:07.809 --> 00:58:08.500
I want to see it.
1087
00:58:09.150 --> 00:58:09.750
Right around.
1088
00:58:10.980 --> 00:58:13.500
See, now I think it's Justin in chat. I think
1089
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:18.849
that's Justin. Dude, have Hong Kong. Have Hong Kong. Oh,
1090
00:58:18.889 --> 00:58:27.590
my God. Lisa, oh, my God. Did you hear I
1091
00:58:27.630 --> 00:58:29.550
was mugged last weekend? There's another out for you.
1092
00:58:29.570 --> 00:58:33.030
Oh, yeah, there you go.
1093
00:58:33.449 --> 00:58:35.909
I had it on, and this dude came by on
1094
00:58:35.949 --> 00:58:36.449
a scooter.
1095
00:58:36.909 --> 00:58:40.059
Make it a third world thing. She'll understand. She's from
1096
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:40.659
the Philippines.
1097
00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:41.480
Oh.
1098
00:58:42.739 --> 00:58:43.579
Too much information.
1099
00:58:45.699 --> 00:58:48.219
Dude, half the dealers there are from the Philippines.
1100
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:49.400
Yeah, including me.
1101
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.579
Yeah. Yeah, you're very Filipino. Very.
1102
00:58:54.699 --> 00:58:57.590
From top to bottom. With that mercy, I am.
1103
00:58:58.989 --> 00:59:01.030
Well, I think this is at least, this has to
1104
00:59:01.050 --> 00:59:03.909
be top five birthday gifts that I've ever seen, so
1105
00:59:03.929 --> 00:59:05.369
that's pretty classic.
1106
00:59:06.949 --> 00:59:10.380
Yeah, definitely top five all time. And not just for me.
1107
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:11.800
I mean, all time for anybody.
1108
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:20.099
Tallest Philistine I've ever seen. Chat's on fire tonight. All right.
1109
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.420
I'm going to go back to work.
1110
00:59:23.969 --> 00:59:25.179
All right. Go get them, Queen.
1111
00:59:25.550 --> 00:59:26.309
Yeah, good luck.
1112
00:59:26.909 --> 00:59:27.650
Don't forget your Merce.
1113
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:31.059
I'll see you guys in an hour.
1114
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:32.139
All right, man.
1115
00:59:32.340 --> 00:59:37.280
Later. So good.
1116
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.449
He's, again, fastest 15 minutes in podcasting. That's what he is.
1117
00:59:42.510 --> 00:59:45.349
Dude, how much did we pack into that? I'll tell
1118
00:59:45.389 --> 00:59:48.309
you what. I do have to say, the courage it took.
1119
00:59:50.469 --> 00:59:54.090
Because, so McShane and I found out about the MERS
1120
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.650
via a video that that Hefe made right after receiving it.
1121
00:59:59.900 --> 01:00:03.280
So all of the, all of the very genuine emotions
1122
01:00:03.380 --> 01:00:06.559
were right. They were right there, just naked on display.
1123
01:00:08.179 --> 01:00:11.860
The courage, right? Am I, am I out of line here?
1124
01:00:12.010 --> 01:00:17.630
The courage to come forward and, and admit that you're
1125
01:00:17.690 --> 01:00:20.329
that gay is, I mean, it's just, it's just so brave,
1126
01:00:21.289 --> 01:00:22.409
so brave, so strong.
1127
01:00:22.449 --> 01:00:26.030
And I love you so much, so much Hefe. So
1128
01:00:26.050 --> 01:00:28.989
strong and brave. Oh, I'm snapping for you.
1129
01:00:30.929 --> 01:00:35.199
In a Z. In a Z. Oh, my gosh. So
1130
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:40.300
we do have an ode for a birthday song for Hefe. Yeah.
1131
01:00:40.340 --> 01:00:41.559
We'll hit that when we come back.
1132
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:42.659
Yep.
1133
01:00:42.940 --> 01:00:46.030
We will absolutely hit that when we come back. And
1134
01:00:46.309 --> 01:00:49.710
we'll let him enjoy that on Monday morning when he
1135
01:00:49.750 --> 01:00:52.829
goes back to listen how we defiled his man card,
1136
01:00:52.869 --> 01:00:55.489
I guess. I think that's pretty much what it is.
1137
01:00:55.869 --> 01:00:58.210
Is there anything else you want to hammer out about
1138
01:00:58.869 --> 01:01:00.829
the AI? I think one of the biggest things for
1139
01:01:00.849 --> 01:01:04.349
me is that now if we stop, we're giving China
1140
01:01:04.389 --> 01:01:07.250
the heads up. We're giving China the edge if we stop.
1141
01:01:08.150 --> 01:01:08.550
Yeah.
1142
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.739
And then if we go ahead and sign this little bill,
1143
01:01:11.429 --> 01:01:14.300
if this bill gets put into play and you end
1144
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:21.199
up only seeing authorized AI developers, all of your indie developers,
1145
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:30.349
anybody who has the creativity that's not part of Anthropic, OpenAI, SpaceX,
1146
01:01:31.369 --> 01:01:33.110
those guys are going to be shut down. I'm not
1147
01:01:33.130 --> 01:01:35.190
allowed to use the technology. I'm not allowed to be
1148
01:01:35.309 --> 01:01:40.409
a producer. I'm not allowed to code. These are all
1149
01:01:40.489 --> 01:01:43.179
things that, those are the big things that I'm now
1150
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:47.000
concerned about on this. And the money aspects of it
1151
01:01:47.059 --> 01:01:49.440
are always going to be out there. It doesn't matter
1152
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.019
the company. It doesn't matter the technology. It doesn't matter
1153
01:01:52.059 --> 01:01:53.820
the industry. You're going to run into those kind of things.
1154
01:01:54.789 --> 01:01:59.570
But now I think those two things, you're stifling creativity
1155
01:01:59.650 --> 01:02:02.309
and you're giving our adversaries a leg up. And that's
1156
01:02:02.329 --> 01:02:03.150
the stuff that bothers me.
1157
01:02:04.489 --> 01:02:10.070
And I will just, I will give the opposite side
1158
01:02:10.090 --> 01:02:13.960
of that only so that we can truly say as.
1159
01:02:15.659 --> 01:02:18.099
RazorWire, as a podcast, that we're trying to stay down
1160
01:02:18.139 --> 01:02:18.619
the middle here.
1161
01:02:19.219 --> 01:02:22.409
The flip side of that is, I also don't want
1162
01:02:22.489 --> 01:02:24.769
my neighbor working on nuclear fission.
1163
01:02:25.070 --> 01:02:25.630
You know what I mean?
1164
01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:29.190
I don't want the guy down the street having a
1165
01:02:29.269 --> 01:02:34.260
small tactical nuke in his backyard because that's the level
1166
01:02:34.300 --> 01:02:37.039
of destruction we're talking about here that AI is capable
1167
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.019
of if it gets out and if it becomes a superintelligence.
1168
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:44.099
A superintelligence is defined that it can do everything, every
1169
01:02:44.139 --> 01:02:46.570
single thing a human can do, it can do it better.
1170
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:48.360
Every single thing.
1171
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:52.320
So we're not talking about like, oh, it does math better. No,
1172
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.159
all things that you can do, it can do better.
1173
01:02:55.940 --> 01:02:56.820
That's terrifying.
1174
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:58.900
And I don't know that I want my neighbor working
1175
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.400
on that. So there is an other side where maybe
1176
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.610
we do need some regulation here. I don't want to
1177
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.590
stifle creativity. I don't want to give China the edge.
1178
01:03:08.630 --> 01:03:11.429
I also don't. You drive next to these people every day.
1179
01:03:11.949 --> 01:03:14.230
There's a lot of morons out there that would do
1180
01:03:14.269 --> 01:03:15.869
a lot of dumb shit and not even know they
1181
01:03:15.889 --> 01:03:19.960
were doing it. And the fact that AI is open
1182
01:03:20.019 --> 01:03:23.860
source right now, and it's not fantastic AI, but Grok
1183
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.059
is pretty fucking smart, and it can write you its
1184
01:03:27.139 --> 01:03:30.059
own program. So you can now not know much about
1185
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:34.179
programming and write your own program for X, Y, and Z.
1186
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:35.539
I'm just saying I.
1187
01:03:37.019 --> 01:03:42.909
Am advocating for some caution here, some slowdown on some level.
1188
01:03:43.150 --> 01:03:45.409
I don't know what that looks like. That's not my–
1189
01:03:46.059 --> 01:03:47.739
I know more about the human brain than I do
1190
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:48.420
about computers.
1191
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.000
So that's not my purview.
1192
01:03:50.179 --> 01:03:53.739
I'm just saying it does seem like we're racing towards
1193
01:03:53.780 --> 01:03:56.500
our own destruction here. And, you know, again, to, to
1194
01:03:56.539 --> 01:04:00.679
go back to Ted Cruz, it doesn't matter whose robots
1195
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:06.030
kill us, Ted, American robots, Chinese robots. It doesn't fucking
1196
01:04:06.050 --> 01:04:09.610
matter at no point did in Terminator where they're like, yeah,
1197
01:04:09.630 --> 01:04:12.250
they were American made robots. They just said that they
1198
01:04:12.269 --> 01:04:14.809
became Terminators and we were losing the war.
1199
01:04:15.010 --> 01:04:18.469
That's, It doesn't matter who made them. So that worries me.
1200
01:04:18.630 --> 01:04:21.130
It really does. It worries me for not even for
1201
01:04:21.210 --> 01:04:23.639
me so much. I mean, I could check out tomorrow.
1202
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:24.760
I'm good. Right.
1203
01:04:24.820 --> 01:04:26.719
I've lived a life. I don't have any kids.
1204
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:27.239
I'm leaving behind.
1205
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:29.760
But it worries me for your kids and for Hefe's
1206
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.800
kids and all the kids that I work with every day.
1207
01:04:33.340 --> 01:04:34.300
It worries me for them.
1208
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.239
And I and I just I don't feel like there's
1209
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:42.000
any looking for their future. There's only looking for them now.
1210
01:04:42.099 --> 01:04:43.179
And that that's concerning.
1211
01:04:45.539 --> 01:04:51.079
At what point does that ban on AI move to
1212
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:54.579
the private sector so that you and I don't have
1213
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.219
access to AI? We don't have any books anymore because
1214
01:04:57.260 --> 01:04:59.280
they've all been, you know. That's right. It doesn't matter
1215
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.719
because you should only get whatever is in AI at
1216
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.730
this point because real books, they're going away, right? We've
1217
01:05:05.750 --> 01:05:09.110
already seen that Amazon is already, they're scanning the books
1218
01:05:09.130 --> 01:05:11.789
and they're getting rid of one-offs, only editions. They're getting
1219
01:05:11.829 --> 01:05:13.949
rid of them. At what point do you start going,
1220
01:05:13.969 --> 01:05:15.849
you know what? well, you know, I don't think you
1221
01:05:15.869 --> 01:05:18.230
should be near AI. I don't think that's something that
1222
01:05:18.269 --> 01:05:20.690
you should, you don't need it. Here, we're going to
1223
01:05:20.710 --> 01:05:22.469
put you in your little sandbox here. You can go
1224
01:05:22.489 --> 01:05:26.360
ahead and play with this one. You get the US,
1225
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.320
you get the United States AI. That's what you get.
1226
01:05:30.340 --> 01:05:32.099
I think it would be more like, we're going to
1227
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:33.820
let you have it, but it's going to be a
1228
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.079
dumbed down, a streamlined version of what we want you
1229
01:05:38.099 --> 01:05:40.840
to get. I mean, the reason that they're downloading those
1230
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.260
books and then burning them is so that they can
1231
01:05:43.829 --> 01:05:45.769
literally rewrite them to say what they want.
1232
01:05:45.829 --> 01:05:48.349
They can change history. They can change a quote.
1233
01:05:48.650 --> 01:05:53.719
They can, they can Mandela affect all of us and say, no, no, no,
1234
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:55.380
that's not what it said in Moby Dick.
1235
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:59.119
He never said that. And we will have no proof
1236
01:05:59.159 --> 01:05:59.400
of that.
1237
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:03.280
So I think it'll be, it'll be a way to
1238
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:09.679
literally pump disinformation into your veins. Literally that's, that's what
1239
01:06:09.699 --> 01:06:10.329
I think they'll give us.
1240
01:06:12.829 --> 01:06:13.269
I'm sorry.
1241
01:06:13.289 --> 01:06:15.920
I'm laughing right now. Cause you have to look, look
1242
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:21.280
in razor chat. Susan is now a Photoshop wizard.
1243
01:06:29.349 --> 01:06:32.010
That's wow. That is well done. That's high quality.
1244
01:06:32.269 --> 01:06:35.250
Susan really high quality. I you're going to have to
1245
01:06:35.289 --> 01:06:38.409
teach me how to do that someday. That's very, you
1246
01:06:38.429 --> 01:06:41.019
can barely tell. It's like just part of the, part
1247
01:06:41.059 --> 01:06:41.599
of the picture.
1248
01:06:43.210 --> 01:06:43.690
Oh, man.
1249
01:06:44.610 --> 01:06:48.250
That's great. Here's to being distracted while running the show.
1250
01:06:48.570 --> 01:06:49.090
That's good.
1251
01:06:49.179 --> 01:06:50.699
And while talking about the end of the world.
1252
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.199
That's right. How'd the beer go?
1253
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:56.440
Which beer?
1254
01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.719
I'm not even on my second one yet. This was okay.
1255
01:06:58.739 --> 01:07:02.909
It was a decent sour. I'm really looking forward to
1256
01:07:02.929 --> 01:07:05.590
this next one. This next one's kind of wild. It's
1257
01:07:05.610 --> 01:07:06.590
from Nightmare Brewing.
1258
01:07:06.650 --> 01:07:07.210
I'll just say that.
1259
01:07:08.030 --> 01:07:10.329
It's from Nightmare Brewing, and it's not one of their big,
1260
01:07:10.409 --> 01:07:15.269
heavy fucking stouts either. It's a very interesting beer. I'm
1261
01:07:15.309 --> 01:07:18.050
really looking forward to it. So I guess this one
1262
01:07:18.070 --> 01:07:22.739
was a really nice starter. I do like sours, and
1263
01:07:22.780 --> 01:07:23.880
I'm a bit sour myself.
1264
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:26.159
So, yeah, it was good. But I'm really looking forward
1265
01:07:26.179 --> 01:07:27.559
to this next one. How about you? How did your
1266
01:07:27.579 --> 01:07:28.119
beer finish up?
1267
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:31.639
Good, good. I enjoyed it. They did a nice job
1268
01:07:31.659 --> 01:07:33.519
with it. They didn't allow the peanut butter to get
1269
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:36.480
out of control. That's the big thing with that for me. Yeah.
1270
01:07:36.809 --> 01:07:40.829
Mouthfeel was nice. It was a good solid stout. I
1271
01:07:41.190 --> 01:07:43.110
don't know that I would go out of my way
1272
01:07:43.210 --> 01:07:46.630
to keep them in the house. I wouldn't bat an
1273
01:07:46.869 --> 01:07:49.820
eye at grabbing it again at some point just because
1274
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:51.429
it's a little bit different if you're looking for something
1275
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:54.199
kind of a one-off as far as a milk stout goes.
1276
01:07:54.820 --> 01:07:56.650
It was good. It was good. I can't knock it.
1277
01:07:56.940 --> 01:08:02.260
I wouldn't, yeah, I probably wouldn't keep it in the fridge,
1278
01:08:02.420 --> 01:08:05.480
but a one-off is fine. Let us get on to
1279
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:06.900
beer two. Sound good?
1280
01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:07.400
Oh, yeah.
1281
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:13.380
Beer two. So let's see what we got here. I
1282
01:08:15.300 --> 01:08:21.130
went with a Mortalis brewing. And this one I'm excited about.
1283
01:08:21.149 --> 01:08:26.710
I haven't had this one before. It's Mortalis Pourin. P-O-U-R.
1284
01:08:26.770 --> 01:08:30.970
I'm sorry. Pourin Mortalis. P-O-U-R-I-N. Mortalis. It's an imperial stout
1285
01:08:31.029 --> 01:08:35.449
brewed with espresso and coffee. I think, I need to
1286
01:08:35.470 --> 01:08:37.250
look it up, but I think this is actually a
1287
01:08:37.270 --> 01:08:47.140
collaboration with Pour and Joy. But I'll go and I'll
1288
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:49.680
pour the beer here. I'll figure that out on the fly.
1289
01:08:53.270 --> 01:08:56.029
Big Imperial Stout. Big Imperial Stout.
1290
01:08:56.729 --> 01:08:57.510
What's the ABV?
1291
01:08:58.109 --> 01:08:58.350
That's a 10.
1292
01:08:58.310 --> 01:09:02.369
10. Hello. Not the biggest.
1293
01:09:03.310 --> 01:09:03.510
No.
1294
01:09:04.090 --> 01:09:05.090
Nothing to sneeze at, though.
1295
01:09:06.689 --> 01:09:13.600
Very viscous pour. Super dark. A lot of coffee. It's
1296
01:09:13.609 --> 01:09:18.460
definitely an espresso. A little bit on the dry side.
1297
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:19.819
A little bit on the dry side.
1298
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:23.579
Which sometimes is nice in an Imperial.
1299
01:09:25.260 --> 01:09:25.960
Oh, that's odd.
1300
01:09:27.699 --> 01:09:28.770
Uh-oh. Ooh.
1301
01:09:31.029 --> 01:09:44.109
What is going on here? Very sweet. And a little
1302
01:09:44.149 --> 01:09:52.100
bit metallic. I'm really surprised. Mortalis doesn't really... doesn't typically...
1303
01:09:52.649 --> 01:09:55.470
fail with a lot of those brews.
1304
01:09:55.489 --> 01:09:56.909
Yeah, they're pretty solid.
1305
01:09:57.909 --> 01:10:00.630
And they're out of Avon, New York. Don't read anything
1306
01:10:00.670 --> 01:10:04.600
into that part. But they, honestly, I usually get more
1307
01:10:04.609 --> 01:10:14.640
of their sours. But this one is, it's definitely a,
1308
01:10:14.659 --> 01:10:19.439
there's no doubt that it's an imperial stout. You get
1309
01:10:19.470 --> 01:10:22.409
some cocoa. There's definitely some espresso. It's a little bit
1310
01:10:22.449 --> 01:10:27.670
more bitter than I probably would have liked. Okay. Very strange.
1311
01:10:27.689 --> 01:10:28.270
Too much coffee?
1312
01:10:29.449 --> 01:10:33.729
I don't... Maybe? It could be the type of coffee, too.
1313
01:10:34.310 --> 01:10:35.829
It could be the type of coffee. I'm not sure
1314
01:10:35.850 --> 01:10:38.050
what they used in this one. It could be the
1315
01:10:38.069 --> 01:10:40.050
type of coffee that actually made it a little bit
1316
01:10:40.270 --> 01:10:44.000
more bitter. So... Interesting.
1317
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:45.699
Yeah.
1318
01:10:46.979 --> 01:10:49.100
We'll have to see how that one goes. It's not bad.
1319
01:10:49.979 --> 01:10:53.399
It's not bad by any means. But I will say this,
1320
01:10:53.460 --> 01:10:57.600
that the peanut butter milk stout is actually now in
1321
01:10:57.640 --> 01:10:59.479
the running for which one I take.
1322
01:10:59.600 --> 01:10:59.979
Wow.
1323
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:01.260
Wow.
1324
01:11:02.300 --> 01:11:02.640
Okay.
1325
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:07.420
Yeah. Yeah. I can dig it. What you got over there?
1326
01:11:08.899 --> 01:11:09.239
All right.
1327
01:11:09.300 --> 01:11:12.560
Well, as I mentioned before the break, this is from
1328
01:11:12.619 --> 01:11:16.159
Nightmare Brewing. Absolutely heinous.
1329
01:11:17.220 --> 01:11:23.960
Heinous canon artwork here. Pretty sure it's a direct... Maybe not.
1330
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:26.199
It looks like it's something out of Friday the 13th.
1331
01:11:26.460 --> 01:11:29.550
I specifically remember it might have been the very first
1332
01:11:29.909 --> 01:11:34.550
Friday the 13th movie where he split the girl with
1333
01:11:34.590 --> 01:11:40.170
the axe right in her unmentionables area and split her down.
1334
01:11:40.810 --> 01:11:44.319
Anyway, that's the artwork going on here. It's pretty heinous.
1335
01:11:44.739 --> 01:11:50.539
This one is called the Sheik, S-H-E-K-K-E-H, which is the
1336
01:11:50.619 --> 01:11:54.460
traditional way to spell Sheik. But this is a Persian
1337
01:11:54.520 --> 01:12:01.369
style sour brewed with black cherries, pomegranate, Persian black limes,
1338
01:12:02.189 --> 01:12:07.729
and Damascus roses. So I have no idea what I'm
1339
01:12:07.770 --> 01:12:12.430
heading into here. Very strange combination of flavors, but It's
1340
01:12:12.510 --> 01:12:14.970
Nightmare Brewing, and they're allowed to do whatever the fuck
1341
01:12:15.069 --> 01:12:18.149
they want to do, in my opinion. So I'm here
1342
01:12:18.210 --> 01:12:20.810
for it. I just don't know what we got going
1343
01:12:20.890 --> 01:12:23.029
on here. So let's take a sip.
1344
01:12:24.430 --> 01:12:28.140
They're a very unique brewer, and their artwork is extremely,
1345
01:12:28.609 --> 01:12:33.340
extremely graphic. So NightmareBrewingCo.com is the website.
1346
01:12:34.979 --> 01:12:36.140
What the fuck?
1347
01:12:38.779 --> 01:12:39.439
Walk us through it.
1348
01:12:45.020 --> 01:12:50.810
Okay. Whoa. All right. It's a cherry sour up front.
1349
01:12:53.689 --> 01:12:57.229
And then as it gets to the back and down
1350
01:12:57.270 --> 01:13:02.479
the gullet, I am tasting some rose in there. And
1351
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.399
I'm not even sure that I would have been able
1352
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.399
to identify it. I just know that it's rose because
1353
01:13:08.460 --> 01:13:10.779
of what it says on the can. But now that
1354
01:13:10.819 --> 01:13:15.119
they say that, oh, okay, I can see how.
1355
01:13:14.220 --> 01:13:15.020
That would be a rose.
1356
01:13:15.699 --> 01:13:22.390
It's floral, but it's also really earthy. Very, very odd beer.
1357
01:13:23.390 --> 01:13:26.149
And not unpleasant, just odd. I've never had anything like
1358
01:13:26.189 --> 01:13:30.010
this before. Really super sudsy. As soon as it goes
1359
01:13:30.050 --> 01:13:34.510
in your mouth, it kind of just inflates, which I don't...
1360
01:13:35.010 --> 01:13:39.090
So if I'm burping, I apologize. I don't always like
1361
01:13:39.130 --> 01:13:42.199
that in a beer because I... A, you can't drink
1362
01:13:42.220 --> 01:13:44.619
it very fast, but B, it just, it makes, there
1363
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:45.960
it is. Jesus Christ.
1364
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.100
Yeah, graphic. Very, very graphic.
1365
01:13:51.020 --> 01:13:53.409
It's a little, looks a little different on the can,
1366
01:13:53.430 --> 01:13:56.630
but that's, that's basically the artwork.
1367
01:13:57.229 --> 01:14:00.430
Check show notes. Well, and what's worse is that, and
1368
01:14:00.489 --> 01:14:04.789
everybody who's at viewing and chat, you're seeing it, and it's,
1369
01:14:05.229 --> 01:14:10.260
and tied to camels are half, people's, half of their bodies. Yeah, half,
1370
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:13.630
half the, uh, This is a violent brewer.
1371
01:14:13.649 --> 01:14:15.789
They are.
1372
01:14:16.670 --> 01:14:17.050
They are.
1373
01:14:17.270 --> 01:14:17.529
Yeah.
1374
01:14:17.949 --> 01:14:20.810
But, yeah. But, again, sorry. I didn't want to derail
1375
01:14:20.829 --> 01:14:21.069
you there.
1376
01:14:21.149 --> 01:14:21.449
No.
1377
01:14:21.829 --> 01:14:22.310
No.
1378
01:14:22.470 --> 01:14:26.750
I really– I'm going to have to let this sort
1379
01:14:26.789 --> 01:14:30.489
of– A, I need it to settle down a little bit.
1380
01:14:30.569 --> 01:14:31.439
I need it to warm up.
1381
01:14:32.310 --> 01:14:37.310
Because it pours a really nice– almost like a wheat
1382
01:14:37.380 --> 01:14:39.340
beer is what it looks like. But then you get
1383
01:14:39.350 --> 01:14:43.439
this really sour cherry– And then, like I said, on
1384
01:14:43.460 --> 01:14:47.630
the back end is some rose flavor, which is– it's
1385
01:14:47.770 --> 01:14:48.329
really odd.
1386
01:14:48.569 --> 01:14:50.489
I don't– I've never had a beer like this before.
1387
01:14:50.750 --> 01:14:53.050
You got it, though. You found it, though. Because if
1388
01:14:53.069 --> 01:14:59.210
you look at the write-up, pomegranate, cherry, black lime, damask rose.
1389
01:15:00.229 --> 01:15:00.369
Yep.
1390
01:15:00.810 --> 01:15:00.970
Yep.
1391
01:15:01.890 --> 01:15:05.270
That's– I don't know. I don't know where to put
1392
01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:09.100
this thing. I'm almost with you. I don't know that
1393
01:15:09.180 --> 01:15:13.670
I hate this beer, but I– It's so weird.
1394
01:15:13.449 --> 01:15:15.810
That I almost want to go with my original sour
1395
01:15:15.890 --> 01:15:17.789
is like the one I'm taking to bed because it's
1396
01:15:17.850 --> 01:15:19.649
a known entity.
1397
01:15:19.689 --> 01:15:20.770
I don't know what the fuck this is.
1398
01:15:21.409 --> 01:15:21.590
Yeah.
1399
01:15:22.430 --> 01:15:25.390
Yeah. Crazy. Well, good for us. We need to get
1400
01:15:25.409 --> 01:15:27.609
a curveball sometime. Instead of throwing curveballs, we need to
1401
01:15:27.630 --> 01:15:29.779
get some curveballs ourselves. There you go.
1402
01:15:29.770 --> 01:15:30.229
This is good.
1403
01:15:30.350 --> 01:15:31.520
I like it. This is good.
1404
01:15:31.689 --> 01:15:31.840
Yep.
1405
01:15:33.899 --> 01:15:39.840
Oh, boy. So speaking of curveballs, we have a song
1406
01:15:40.579 --> 01:15:42.539
for Hefei. Yes, we do.
1407
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:46.859
And it's not just for Hefe.
1408
01:15:46.899 --> 01:15:50.670
I mean, now that everybody has the backstory on the Merce,
1409
01:15:51.069 --> 01:15:54.810
on the man bag, now everyone can enjoy this song.
1410
01:15:54.989 --> 01:15:59.670
But really, Hefe, this one goes out to you.
1411
01:16:01.029 --> 01:16:05.250
And the setting, the music video for this, if you were,
1412
01:16:05.270 --> 01:16:08.090
I want you to imagine Hefe with his man bag,
1413
01:16:08.130 --> 01:16:09.829
now that you have the pictures to go along with it.
1414
01:16:10.420 --> 01:16:10.979
Oh, yeah.
1415
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:14.579
Now, imagine he's in a dealer's outfit, and he's dancing
1416
01:16:14.659 --> 01:16:18.439
through the casino, and he's singing this, and all of his...
1417
01:16:18.899 --> 01:16:23.119
Everybody he works with is just gathered around, and they're
1418
01:16:23.149 --> 01:16:23.779
singing with him. Oh, yeah.
1419
01:16:23.819 --> 01:16:24.310
They're all there.
1420
01:16:24.329 --> 01:16:26.630
And it's just... This is straight out of Broadway. Okay?
1421
01:16:26.649 --> 01:16:29.109
This is straight out of Broadway. 1957 Broadway. This is
1422
01:16:29.149 --> 01:16:29.470
what it is.
1423
01:16:29.510 --> 01:16:29.630
Yep.
1424
01:16:32.909 --> 01:16:33.770
I feel pretty.
1425
01:16:34.210 --> 01:16:37.590
Oh, so pretty. This new man bag just made me
1426
01:16:37.630 --> 01:16:38.189
that way.
1427
01:16:39.020 --> 01:16:39.250
And I.
1428
01:16:40.569 --> 01:16:44.619
Any dealer whose tote is last made.
1429
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:46.020
I feel charming.
1430
01:16:46.380 --> 01:16:47.680
Oh, so charming.
1431
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:52.100
It's alarming how this bag makes me feel. Soft Italian
1432
01:16:52.659 --> 01:16:53.859
with a buckle.
1433
01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:58.899
That I hardly think is real. See the pretty boy
1434
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:00.319
in that mirror there.
1435
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:02.199
In that attractive green.
1436
01:17:03.869 --> 01:17:06.430
Such a pretty face. Such a pretty strap.
1437
01:17:06.789 --> 01:17:12.130
Such a pretty sleigh. Such a pretty me.
1438
01:17:12.270 --> 01:17:17.189
I feel stunning and entrancing. Feel like shuffling and dancing
1439
01:17:17.229 --> 01:17:21.189
for joy. Cause this man bag makes.
1440
01:17:20.979 --> 01:17:22.380
A pretty wonderful boy.
1441
01:17:23.220 --> 01:17:25.760
He's so pretty.
1442
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:27.239
He's so pretty.
1443
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:31.840
He's the prettiest boy. on the floor he's so pretty
1444
01:17:32.100 --> 01:17:34.680
he's so pretty swing that.
1445
01:17:34.460 --> 01:17:37.920
Man bag honey give us more have you met our
1446
01:17:37.939 --> 01:17:42.039
good friend el jefe the most stunning dealer in the
1447
01:17:42.140 --> 01:17:46.819
pit you'll know him the minute you see him he's the.
1448
01:17:46.899 --> 01:17:49.760
One with the bag and the fit he thinks he's
1449
01:17:49.859 --> 01:17:52.979
beaming like he's in love he thinks.
1450
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:57.140
He's in the line he isn't He's married to the
1451
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.979
man back shiny tan.
1452
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.899
Battalion to the mayor with a gold-toned clasp.
1453
01:18:05.100 --> 01:18:07.880
He deals 21 with his slug on his ass.
1454
01:18:08.140 --> 01:18:10.960
Keep him off the rails, call surveillance.
1455
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:12.979
This is not the Jeff we know.
1456
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.350
Who is all modest and butch.
1457
01:18:17.390 --> 01:18:19.819
Polite and refined.
1458
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:22.890
Well-bred and mature.
1459
01:18:33.899 --> 01:18:34.859
I feel pretty.
1460
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.199
Oh, so pretty that the cage.
1461
01:18:37.859 --> 01:18:39.739
Should put my bag on display.
1462
01:18:40.260 --> 01:18:46.710
A committee should be organized to honor my bag.
1463
01:18:46.729 --> 01:18:49.050
I feel dizzy. I feel sunny.
1464
01:18:49.649 --> 01:18:52.149
I feel fizzy and funny and fine.
1465
01:18:52.609 --> 01:18:53.630
And so pretty.
1466
01:18:54.270 --> 01:18:59.439
This man bag is officially mine.
1467
01:18:59.449 --> 01:19:03.100
See the pretty boy in that mirror there. And who can.
1468
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.560
That attractive queen be?
1469
01:19:05.659 --> 01:19:07.039
Such a pretty face.
1470
01:19:07.060 --> 01:19:09.680
Such a pretty flat nose. Such a pretty slant.
1471
01:19:10.149 --> 01:19:14.000
Such a pretty me.
1472
01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:16.939
Chips go in it. Chips go in it.
1473
01:19:17.100 --> 01:19:20.140
Lip gloss compact and a spare cologne.
1474
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:22.140
When I double.
1475
01:19:21.739 --> 01:19:24.760
Down, this man back sets the tone.
1476
01:19:26.710 --> 01:19:31.229
I feel stunning and entrancing. Feel like cutting cards and
1477
01:19:31.329 --> 01:19:34.350
dancing for joy. Because this man back.
1478
01:19:34.890 --> 01:19:38.569
Makes a pretty, wonderful boy.
1479
01:19:38.949 --> 01:19:40.699
He's so pretty.
1480
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:41.760
He's so pretty.
1481
01:19:41.859 --> 01:19:45.000
He's the prettiest dealer on the floor.
1482
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:46.600
Watch the slap swing.
1483
01:19:46.659 --> 01:19:48.239
Watch the cart sing.
1484
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.649
He's the prettiest dealer on the floor.
1485
01:19:52.250 --> 01:19:52.909
La, la, la, la.
1486
01:19:52.930 --> 01:19:53.670
Look at that bag.
1487
01:19:53.949 --> 01:19:54.470
La, la, la, la.
1488
01:19:54.470 --> 01:19:55.390
Look at that sleigh.
1489
01:19:55.409 --> 01:19:56.630
Keep the cameras on the leather.
1490
01:19:56.670 --> 01:20:00.689
He's dealing like it's opening day.
1491
01:20:00.750 --> 01:20:02.470
He's so pretty.
1492
01:20:02.510 --> 01:20:04.060
He's so pretty.
1493
01:20:04.069 --> 01:20:04.539
He's the.
1494
01:20:05.989 --> 01:20:07.899
Stealer on the.
1495
01:20:07.619 --> 01:20:14.199
Floor I feel pretty, oh so pretty I feel pretty
1496
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:17.340
because the bag said so And I.
1497
01:20:17.380 --> 01:20:22.159
Pity any man whose accessories don't.
1498
01:20:21.699 --> 01:20:28.760
Glow Such a pretty face, such a pretty strap Such.
1499
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:36.180
A pretty sleigh Such a pretty.
1500
01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:44.359
Me and my bad man.
1501
01:20:46.449 --> 01:20:50.750
Happy birthday, Hefe. You asked for it. You and your
1502
01:20:50.770 --> 01:20:51.470
big man best.
1503
01:20:51.510 --> 01:20:55.229
You did. Enjoy that, sir. Enjoy that.
1504
01:20:57.569 --> 01:20:58.029
Oh, God.
1505
01:20:58.470 --> 01:21:02.100
Some of the lines in that fucking song were so good.
1506
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:09.140
Part of me regrets ever getting turned on to Tuno
1507
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:11.619
or Suno and then the rest is like no no
1508
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.479
this is a good thing this is good it was good.
1509
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.539
Yeah the tips go in that was a great line
1510
01:21:20.380 --> 01:21:22.920
also there's space for my lip gloss and.
1511
01:21:25.220 --> 01:21:27.279
Oh god so good.
1512
01:21:28.260 --> 01:21:31.279
So did you buy any of Hunter Biden's meme coin
1513
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:32.600
the laptop.
1514
01:21:35.060 --> 01:21:37.000
Well, I, you know, I was going to, but then
1515
01:21:37.020 --> 01:21:40.329
he came out as 48.6% gay. And I was like,
1516
01:21:40.449 --> 01:21:45.850
I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm, that's not where my
1517
01:21:45.890 --> 01:21:49.350
money goes is, I guess it was a financial decision.
1518
01:21:49.689 --> 01:21:51.829
It's no, no judgment. I don't, he can be as
1519
01:21:52.390 --> 01:21:56.439
whatever percentage gay he wants to be. I just, I
1520
01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:59.020
put my money towards meme coins that are more about
1521
01:21:59.140 --> 01:22:00.100
farts and dogs.
1522
01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:02.640
Big on Doge.
1523
01:22:04.590 --> 01:22:07.550
Yeah. I mean, if I'm going to throw away money,
1524
01:22:07.609 --> 01:22:08.710
it's going to be on that stuff.
1525
01:22:10.189 --> 01:22:12.810
Yeah. So that popped up this week, and I guess
1526
01:22:13.130 --> 01:22:16.609
you were able to buy in at $ 247 worth, and
1527
01:22:16.630 --> 01:22:20.380
then it dropped. Like out of nowhere. Like a mean point.
1528
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:23.279
It just cratered. Yeah. And I'm assuming it got out
1529
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:27.500
at $ 247. And that's what the... I'm waiting for the...
1530
01:22:28.819 --> 01:22:32.539
Here's the problem, right? So... we see these people bring
1531
01:22:32.579 --> 01:22:36.659
up meme coins. There's an investigation. There should be buyer beware,
1532
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:38.100
all this kind of stuff. But when you go out
1533
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.020
and you buy it on, I'm not going to call
1534
01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:44.119
it the black market, but I'm going to say off exchanges, right?
1535
01:22:44.859 --> 01:22:45.159
Yeah.
1536
01:22:46.970 --> 01:22:51.229
Buyer beware. You probably, you shouldn't be doing it. You
1537
01:22:51.250 --> 01:22:52.710
shouldn't be buying it, but if you do and you
1538
01:22:52.729 --> 01:22:53.949
can make a few bucks, okay.
1539
01:22:54.210 --> 01:22:54.430
All right.
1540
01:22:54.529 --> 01:22:56.270
I guess if you had the money to do it, okay, cool.
1541
01:22:57.310 --> 01:23:01.689
But going back to Trump coin, uh, Haktua coin or
1542
01:23:01.729 --> 01:23:02.930
whatever that chicks was.
1543
01:23:03.729 --> 01:23:03.970
Yeah.
1544
01:23:04.550 --> 01:23:12.770
The, these things are not, it's not. And, and also too,
1545
01:23:13.329 --> 01:23:19.149
he mentioned the week before, besides the 48.6% gay, he's
1546
01:23:19.170 --> 01:23:20.829
also thinking about making a run for president.
1547
01:23:22.989 --> 01:23:26.319
Which is, which is awesome. I think, and I hope
1548
01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:27.619
he runs as a Democrat.
1549
01:23:28.100 --> 01:23:28.380
That's.
1550
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:31.470
But, But don't you think now at this point both
1551
01:23:31.510 --> 01:23:33.010
of those things were just pumping for the coin?
1552
01:23:34.289 --> 01:23:38.439
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. There's no doubt in my
1553
01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:40.140
mind that that's exactly what he's doing.
1554
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:47.539
He's a– people don't like to be accused of like
1555
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:49.539
riding their parents' coattails or whatever.
1556
01:23:49.850 --> 01:23:51.949
But that's all he is.
1557
01:23:52.270 --> 01:23:55.010
I mean he made all that money with Burisma and
1558
01:23:55.029 --> 01:23:56.409
all of that over in Ukraine.
1559
01:23:56.810 --> 01:23:59.670
He sold artwork that's– it's shit. It's crap.
1560
01:24:00.779 --> 01:24:04.539
But it sells because he's Hunter Biden. And so the
1561
01:24:04.579 --> 01:24:06.079
same thing happened with this shit coin.
1562
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:07.220
I mean, I'm sorry.
1563
01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:13.649
If you bought into this thing, shame on you. There's no, oh,
1564
01:24:13.699 --> 01:24:14.430
he took me for.
1565
01:24:14.350 --> 01:24:16.489
All my money. No, you took you for all your
1566
01:24:16.529 --> 01:24:18.489
money because you're a fucking idiot. Why would you buy
1567
01:24:18.529 --> 01:24:18.869
into that?
1568
01:24:19.229 --> 01:24:21.250
But it tracks, though, with all of his trying to
1569
01:24:21.310 --> 01:24:22.170
pay for his rent.
1570
01:24:22.250 --> 01:24:25.869
That's what I'm saying. It's just his track record.
1571
01:24:26.130 --> 01:24:26.310
Yeah.
1572
01:24:26.510 --> 01:24:26.649
Yep.
1573
01:24:27.350 --> 01:24:27.489
Yeah.
1574
01:24:28.029 --> 01:24:30.479
Yeah. Can you explain to me this?
1575
01:24:32.250 --> 01:24:36.329
Why does algebra put letters into numbers? I think just
1576
01:24:36.350 --> 01:24:41.029
to fuck with you. So you deal with math in
1577
01:24:41.069 --> 01:24:45.100
your job every day. You've already, I think, demonstrated your
1578
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:47.680
grasp of math is high.
1579
01:24:47.699 --> 01:24:51.439
Very functional math. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
1580
01:24:51.460 --> 01:24:52.180
Yeah.
1581
01:24:52.340 --> 01:24:54.380
Well, if you can build a wood-fired kiln.
1582
01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:55.020
Yeah.
1583
01:24:55.829 --> 01:25:00.350
You understand math, but you didn't add letters to numbers
1584
01:25:00.590 --> 01:25:01.590
in the process of doing that.
1585
01:25:01.609 --> 01:25:02.609
That's the weirdest thing.
1586
01:25:02.729 --> 01:25:05.770
Nowhere did I find any letters in my math to
1587
01:25:05.829 --> 01:25:09.159
calculate the size and structural integrity of a cantonary arch.
1588
01:25:09.180 --> 01:25:10.380
Isn't that weird?
1589
01:25:11.180 --> 01:25:11.920
Oh, that was weird.
1590
01:25:11.939 --> 01:25:15.260
Because everybody, every math teacher was always like, you need
1591
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:18.380
to know some algebra. I've yet to encounter a single
1592
01:25:18.420 --> 01:25:20.539
person in my life that uses algebra.
1593
01:25:21.699 --> 01:25:22.140
Actually.
1594
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:23.060
Have you?
1595
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:25.880
So like you, but you would know.
1596
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:26.359
Yeah.
1597
01:25:26.390 --> 01:25:27.850
But I mean, I live in a fake world.
1598
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:28.729
Okay.
1599
01:25:29.050 --> 01:25:32.430
Right there needs to be the soundbite that everybody uses
1600
01:25:33.069 --> 01:25:36.189
for anything that Tucker ever does. That's Tucker Carlson. And
1601
01:25:36.210 --> 01:25:38.260
he's with this, this, this, I don't even know who,
1602
01:25:38.630 --> 01:25:39.649
who this guest is.
1603
01:25:39.869 --> 01:25:45.420
He's, uh, just, he, He looks like a wannabe fighter pilot,
1604
01:25:45.539 --> 01:25:48.060
but he's actually, what, a structural engineer or something?
1605
01:25:48.090 --> 01:25:52.050
Yeah, just Olofsson. I don't know who this guy even is.
1606
01:25:52.369 --> 01:25:56.750
It's not even worth diving into. But when talking heads
1607
01:25:56.829 --> 01:26:00.869
like this jackass, which he's elevated himself into being a
1608
01:26:00.909 --> 01:26:02.689
complete and total shill.
1609
01:26:03.550 --> 01:26:10.029
Yeah, I'm concerned for Tucker's mental health at this point. And,
1610
01:26:10.529 --> 01:26:13.520
you know, I can clear up this entire video really
1611
01:26:13.579 --> 01:26:15.920
easily because we all do it, right?
1612
01:26:16.060 --> 01:26:17.159
We all confuse.
1613
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:21.430
We have this blanket statement for math. We just think
1614
01:26:21.550 --> 01:26:25.050
math is math. Now, what they're talking about is arithmetic.
1615
01:26:25.510 --> 01:26:31.350
Arithmetic deals with hard numbers and operations with those numbers.
1616
01:26:31.890 --> 01:26:37.029
Mathematics gets into when there are unknowns. And trust me, Tucker,
1617
01:26:37.710 --> 01:26:40.489
trust me, Jess or Joss or whatever the fuck that
1618
01:26:41.069 --> 01:26:44.810
shit stain's name is. There are times, there are equations
1619
01:26:45.750 --> 01:26:50.329
when you absolutely need to have unknowns because any known
1620
01:26:50.430 --> 01:26:52.710
number that you plug in there changes the entire rest
1621
01:26:52.750 --> 01:26:57.079
of the equation, but there are multiple answers that are correct. See,
1622
01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.479
two plus two has a answer. Two plus two has
1623
01:27:00.779 --> 01:27:03.239
one fucking answer. I mean, you can make up whatever
1624
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:06.460
answer you want, but you're wrong. The only answer that's
1625
01:27:06.500 --> 01:27:07.359
correct is four.
1626
01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:11.659
That's arithmetic. Mathematics and algebra gets.
1627
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:15.260
Into things that I can plug any number into an
1628
01:27:15.420 --> 01:27:18.739
unknown slot and it will change the outcome. That's how
1629
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.539
jet engines are made. That's how boats go through the water.
1630
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:27.289
That's how very, very tall buildings get built. I mean,
1631
01:27:27.689 --> 01:27:30.869
it is in literally all parts of our life. That's
1632
01:27:30.909 --> 01:27:32.970
how our cell phones work.
1633
01:27:33.229 --> 01:27:34.050
You dipshits.
1634
01:27:34.989 --> 01:27:40.399
So I don't... Wherever they got off on this... Tucker
1635
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:43.680
has a tendency... to whoever's sitting in the seat across
1636
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:47.699
from him, he just sort of like, like feeds into
1637
01:27:47.770 --> 01:27:48.989
whatever ego they have.
1638
01:27:49.229 --> 01:27:51.529
And this, this guy, yeah.
1639
01:27:51.689 --> 01:27:55.310
And so that's where they got off. And I don't, anyway,
1640
01:27:56.210 --> 01:27:59.310
it's very simple, a very simple thing to clear up.
1641
01:27:59.470 --> 01:28:01.670
But the two of them were, were on the same
1642
01:28:01.710 --> 01:28:05.229
mushrooms that day or had the same colonoscopy or something
1643
01:28:06.189 --> 01:28:13.609
or enema, both maybe. and they're just off their fucking rockers.
1644
01:28:13.689 --> 01:28:16.659
But I don't even... I'm not even a mathematician.
1645
01:28:16.699 --> 01:28:19.100
I don't even go into those areas of algebra, and
1646
01:28:19.140 --> 01:28:22.000
I know what the fuck the difference is. Who are
1647
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.220
these people that just get to say things like that,
1648
01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:26.380
and then it goes out to millions of people, and
1649
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:27.380
then we all have to accept it?
1650
01:28:28.619 --> 01:28:29.100
Shut up.
1651
01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:35.850
And on top of that... You're saying that engineering's not real?
1652
01:28:36.850 --> 01:28:39.789
You're saying that physics is not real?
1653
01:28:39.810 --> 01:28:39.970
Exactly.
1654
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:43.180
Didn't need that to build an arch. Okay, well.
1655
01:28:44.939 --> 01:28:48.979
There's a difference between applied and theoretical.
1656
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:51.869
I could probably eyeball and make a shitty kiln.
1657
01:28:51.890 --> 01:28:53.250
Yeah.
1658
01:28:53.449 --> 01:28:57.949
Like what Mr. Aviator Glasses here is saying. I could
1659
01:28:57.970 --> 01:29:02.000
probably eyeball... No, I might not need... I, it's just,
1660
01:29:03.500 --> 01:29:07.140
this is even for him. Who's gotten really questionable.
1661
01:29:09.010 --> 01:29:09.659
This was out.
1662
01:29:09.689 --> 01:29:13.069
This is next level. And he, and he, he doubles
1663
01:29:13.130 --> 01:29:15.390
down on this this week. Apparently he hasn't been in
1664
01:29:15.409 --> 01:29:17.850
the news enough. He's come out and he's backing this
1665
01:29:18.029 --> 01:29:21.090
LSE guy out of Michigan. The center, the, the guy.
1666
01:29:21.109 --> 01:29:21.630
Yes.
1667
01:29:21.649 --> 01:29:22.350
By care.
1668
01:29:22.369 --> 01:29:23.470
The socialist.
1669
01:29:23.609 --> 01:29:24.010
Yeah.
1670
01:29:24.210 --> 01:29:25.489
Well, the socialist Islamist.
1671
01:29:26.510 --> 01:29:26.930
Yeah.
1672
01:29:27.989 --> 01:29:35.859
Crazy. I, I, I don't know how any self-respecting human
1673
01:29:36.020 --> 01:29:40.220
being can watch his shit anymore. And maybe we're doing
1674
01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:45.380
a disservice to humanity by even bringing this up. But
1675
01:29:45.420 --> 01:29:48.569
this is some really weird out there shit, even for him.
1676
01:29:49.449 --> 01:29:51.470
We had so much hope for when he was going
1677
01:29:51.489 --> 01:29:52.529
to come out of Fox News.
1678
01:29:52.729 --> 01:29:53.210
I know.
1679
01:29:53.310 --> 01:29:56.869
Yeah. He started off great. He made some sense. He's like, wow,
1680
01:29:56.970 --> 01:29:58.890
he's got some teeth. He's going in the right direction.
1681
01:29:58.949 --> 01:30:01.689
And he went after Putin. Remember that? I mean, that
1682
01:30:01.729 --> 01:30:03.729
was fucking peak Tucker.
1683
01:30:04.189 --> 01:30:08.109
Yes, he went after everybody. He's Trump. He's stumping for Trump. He's,
1684
01:30:08.310 --> 01:30:11.220
I'm a conservative. I'm doing this. I'm doing that. I
1685
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:13.859
can't even figure out where this, if he's a shill
1686
01:30:13.899 --> 01:30:16.140
for the CIA, if he's a plant for the CIA,
1687
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:20.340
which everybody thinks he is, I'm positive he's bought by
1688
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:21.619
Karen Katar.
1689
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:25.579
His dad was in.
1690
01:30:26.430 --> 01:30:27.119
Yeah.
1691
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:31.029
Was, was in intelligence. So yeah, of course.
1692
01:30:31.050 --> 01:30:31.250
Yeah.
1693
01:30:31.710 --> 01:30:32.069
Of course.
1694
01:30:32.489 --> 01:30:33.989
I don't even know where this, I don't even know
1695
01:30:34.010 --> 01:30:36.590
where the, where this fits in that midst. It doesn't
1696
01:30:36.649 --> 01:30:38.590
make any sense. And I don't even know where, where that,
1697
01:30:38.670 --> 01:30:42.779
what that sets up. It's not even a goofy. Hey,
1698
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:43.979
it's just something we had on the show.
1699
01:30:44.420 --> 01:30:47.439
No, it's, it's not even, it's you.
1700
01:30:48.500 --> 01:30:53.010
I guess for some fringe population out there. I mean,
1701
01:30:53.369 --> 01:30:55.630
first of all, There are people out there that don't
1702
01:30:55.689 --> 01:30:59.090
believe triangles exist. They don't believe triangles are real.
1703
01:31:00.810 --> 01:31:02.069
It's a real thing. Go look it up.
1704
01:31:02.170 --> 01:31:04.890
I'm not going to go into it, but I've seen
1705
01:31:04.930 --> 01:31:09.170
some videos, and it's mind-blowing. These people think that triangles
1706
01:31:09.270 --> 01:31:13.670
don't actually exist. You can draw them one, and they'll say, well,
1707
01:31:13.850 --> 01:31:16.649
that's just a drawing of one, but where is an
1708
01:31:16.750 --> 01:31:19.489
actual triangle? So if there are people like that in
1709
01:31:19.529 --> 01:31:23.699
the world, then there are also people– who are going
1710
01:31:23.779 --> 01:31:29.619
to follow along with Tucker and this other idiot, Jess,
1711
01:31:29.819 --> 01:31:32.489
and be like, yeah, man, yeah, that's real.
1712
01:31:32.550 --> 01:31:37.029
That's exactly. Mathematics isn't real, man. Why would you add
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01:31:37.090 --> 01:31:39.050
letters in, man? They're numbers, man.
1714
01:31:39.069 --> 01:31:44.510
I guess there's a part of the population that's following
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01:31:44.569 --> 01:31:49.789
along with their fucking pot-induced... ridiculousness.
1716
01:31:49.680 --> 01:31:52.340
Is it just is this just appealing to the idiocracy
1717
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:55.380
to i okay that's where i was going with this
1718
01:31:55.819 --> 01:31:57.979
that's where i was going with this is is that
1719
01:31:58.180 --> 01:32:00.640
it is it is dumbing down.
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01:32:00.899 --> 01:32:04.720
Those that are susceptible to being dumbed down and the
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01:32:04.779 --> 01:32:07.460
rest of us are going okay you can say whatever
1722
01:32:07.579 --> 01:32:09.960
those are just words they don't have any meaning but
1723
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.380
you can say whatever you want and the rest of
1724
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.310
us are are wondering what the fuck are they even
1725
01:32:15.350 --> 01:32:18.489
talking about, but it does contribute to the dumbing down
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01:32:19.029 --> 01:32:20.510
as a whole of society.
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01:32:20.909 --> 01:32:23.090
And maybe that's the point. Maybe that's it.
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01:32:25.689 --> 01:32:27.720
He's got, I'm willing to say that he's got some
1729
01:32:27.729 --> 01:32:32.460
really stupid, really, really, really stupid listeners and viewers.
1730
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:32.939
He must.
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01:32:33.539 --> 01:32:35.619
Yeah, he must. He didn't lose a ton because of that.
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01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.680
If people aren't asking for their money back after that,
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01:32:37.979 --> 01:32:41.039
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I
1734
01:32:41.060 --> 01:32:41.939
don't know where we're going.
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01:32:42.100 --> 01:32:44.359
In chat, the technical term is retards.
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01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:45.380
That's the.
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01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:51.880
Yes, chat nailed it. They are retards. Yep. Math is
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01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:52.859
a social construct.
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01:32:54.779 --> 01:32:57.029
Well, and it's also racist. Remember that whole thing.
1740
01:32:57.069 --> 01:32:59.470
Math is racist. Math is absolutely racist.
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01:32:59.489 --> 01:33:00.470
We established that.
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01:33:00.810 --> 01:33:02.970
Because black students don't do as well on math, it
1743
01:33:03.010 --> 01:33:09.149
must be racist. That whole conjecture, again... is so absurd,
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01:33:09.390 --> 01:33:12.210
and yet there are people. You could go out on
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01:33:12.250 --> 01:33:14.710
the street right now and find someone that would agree
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01:33:14.750 --> 01:33:16.670
with that statement, that math is racist.
1747
01:33:19.149 --> 01:33:19.890
Absolutely absurd.
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01:33:21.010 --> 01:33:24.310
Anyone? Okay, I'm pretty sure this is a... I think
1749
01:33:24.350 --> 01:33:27.510
it's Aaron now. I'm back to Aaron. Anyone who is
1750
01:33:27.569 --> 01:33:30.510
still listening to Tucker judges window cleaners by taste?
1751
01:33:33.989 --> 01:33:34.810
Probably right.
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01:33:36.050 --> 01:33:36.569
Probably right.
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01:33:36.590 --> 01:33:40.819
Fantastic. You want to get into that math problem?
1754
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:45.090
Yeah, let's hit on that real quick because actually it
1755
01:33:45.130 --> 01:33:48.010
ties into every single thing we've talked about tonight. Other
1756
01:33:48.050 --> 01:33:51.810
than Merce's man bags, I don't think it touches on that.
1757
01:33:52.270 --> 01:33:58.010
But it touches on AI. It touches on Tucker being
1758
01:33:58.029 --> 01:34:01.380
an idiot. But it also splinters off into some really
1759
01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:07.899
interesting things. Again, I'm thankful that this happened because I
1760
01:34:07.939 --> 01:34:10.880
got to go down these rabbit holes. So you have
1761
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:16.300
the disconjecture, the Navier-Stokes conjecture, which is one... So Clay
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01:34:16.359 --> 01:34:20.399
Mathematics is an organization, and they have put out a
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01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:25.810
million-dollar reward, prize, whatever. If you can solve any of
1764
01:34:25.930 --> 01:34:31.829
these unsolvable problems that they have collected over the breadth
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01:34:31.869 --> 01:34:34.350
of the world, the history of the world, there are
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01:34:34.369 --> 01:34:35.510
some unsolvable things.
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01:34:36.029 --> 01:34:36.250
And so.
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01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:40.199
And again, it's because there are too many variables in
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01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:45.770
the problems that they can't compute if it's viable or not.
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01:34:45.869 --> 01:34:50.270
So anyway, this Navier-Stokes problem, it has to do with
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01:34:50.329 --> 01:34:55.600
fluid dynamics. But it also– and so the AI connection
1772
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:59.579
is that apparently AI solved this thing. It basically showed
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01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:04.609
in both a 2D and a 3D model that, yes–
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01:35:05.229 --> 01:35:11.720
even in a perfectly smooth fluid dynamic environment, there could
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01:35:11.810 --> 01:35:16.340
be a disruption minor enough that could compound on itself
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01:35:16.539 --> 01:35:17.760
and disrupt the whole system.
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01:35:18.420 --> 01:35:21.420
Basically, they're trying to say, could you have.
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01:35:21.579 --> 01:35:26.199
Oil going through a pump for long enough and with
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01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:31.010
enough variability that it will create a bubble or some
1780
01:35:31.060 --> 01:35:35.850
sort of anomaly that could Collapse the whole system. And
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01:35:36.189 --> 01:35:39.060
the answer is yes, it could. They just couldn't prove
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01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.819
it mathematically. I think we all know that. We've all
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01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:44.319
had an oil pump go out in our car or
1784
01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:46.819
a water pump or whatever. We all know that can happen.
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01:35:47.619 --> 01:35:50.659
But they proved it mathematically. So the long and short
1786
01:35:50.689 --> 01:35:54.689
of this is, though, this actually touches on, this is
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01:35:55.149 --> 01:35:58.289
part of the research that's going into whether or not
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01:35:58.409 --> 01:36:01.010
we can travel at or near.
1789
01:36:00.810 --> 01:36:03.600
The speed of light. So warp drives.
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01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:09.100
Because that is a fluid dynamics problem and how to
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01:36:09.180 --> 01:36:13.319
generate a warp field big enough and long enough that
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01:36:13.340 --> 01:36:16.819
it will sustain itself. So that I found really interesting
1793
01:36:17.220 --> 01:36:19.159
that this is like kind of leading right into the
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01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.810
future of all that. And then there are some other
1795
01:36:21.869 --> 01:36:26.250
like– shit, let me read this really quick. Oh, also
1796
01:36:26.529 --> 01:36:28.449
the data centers. We talked about that earlier.
1797
01:36:29.510 --> 01:36:32.689
They have large amounts of water. We've all heard about that.
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01:36:32.789 --> 01:36:34.609
But they recycle the water.
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01:36:35.340 --> 01:36:38.060
They need to know that is that water that's being
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01:36:38.100 --> 01:36:41.119
recycled through those pumps, is there a potential that it
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01:36:41.180 --> 01:36:44.779
could collapse? And if so, how can we prevent that
1802
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:48.260
from happening? So they've actually been coming up with additives
1803
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:51.880
to the water that cool all the data centers that
1804
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:56.000
will keep the water smoother and more consistent so that
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01:36:56.060 --> 01:36:59.729
these anomalies will not pop up in the mathematical equations.
1806
01:37:00.409 --> 01:37:04.470
So that's also really interesting. So this thing has like really.
1807
01:37:06.390 --> 01:37:07.590
Far-reaching tendrils.
1808
01:37:07.689 --> 01:37:10.149
There's five or six more things that it really can
1809
01:37:10.550 --> 01:37:11.550
kind of go out into.
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01:37:11.590 --> 01:37:13.970
And everyone was like, oh, it's just fluid dynamics. Who
1811
01:37:13.989 --> 01:37:16.720
gives a shit? No, this thing goes way out.
1812
01:37:17.340 --> 01:37:21.579
And it's an unsolvable problem that's important enough that they
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01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:26.020
gave a million-dollar prize for it because it plays into
1814
01:37:26.060 --> 01:37:27.899
a lot of other things that are important to us
1815
01:37:27.939 --> 01:37:29.180
right now and in the future.
1816
01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:35.420
September 8th, 2026, OpenAI announced the construction of Finite Time Blowup,
1817
01:37:36.210 --> 01:37:42.069
for smoothly forced 3D Navier-Stokes claiming alternative C and D
1818
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:46.779
together with a lean formalization produced by a large swarm
1819
01:37:46.819 --> 01:37:49.880
of agents on 11... Sorry, by a large swarm of agents.
1820
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:54.479
So they had their AI agents, thousands of them, go
1821
01:37:54.500 --> 01:37:57.310
ahead and take information and start trying to crunch numbers
1822
01:37:57.369 --> 01:37:58.810
and try to come up with an answer for this.
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01:37:59.569 --> 01:38:03.310
On September 11th, the Clay Institute said the problem had
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01:38:03.350 --> 01:38:08.579
apparently been settled. While emphasizing the evaluation and assignment of
1825
01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:17.390
credit would be unhurried, a priority dispute with other researchers, researchers, mathematicians, Buckmaster, Alpage,
1826
01:38:17.689 --> 01:38:23.630
and earlier work of Cordoba, Martinez, Zoroa, followed immediately. A
1827
01:38:23.710 --> 01:38:27.510
forced blowup does not settle the unforced regularity questions A
1828
01:38:27.670 --> 01:38:30.199
and B. And we can get into that if you want.
1829
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.920
Those remain open. It's still unknown whether a smooth 3D
1830
01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:40.399
flow left to itself can develop a singularity. The prize
1831
01:38:40.460 --> 01:38:44.250
process itself has never worked. So what ended up happening here?
1832
01:38:46.390 --> 01:38:48.470
You had mathematicians go out there and say, okay, we
1833
01:38:48.510 --> 01:38:51.409
haven't been able to do this on our own. So
1834
01:38:51.449 --> 01:38:53.369
we're going to go ahead and start using our own,
1835
01:38:53.510 --> 01:38:55.750
our information, our data. We're going to go ahead and
1836
01:38:55.770 --> 01:38:58.979
use open AI and try and come up and see
1837
01:38:59.020 --> 01:39:00.210
if we can come up with the answers for it.
1838
01:39:00.220 --> 01:39:02.060
So they start messing around with the answers and they,
1839
01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:07.300
you know, they're, they're working at it. Open AI turns
1840
01:39:07.359 --> 01:39:14.180
around and uses their information and brute forces the answer. Yep. Yep. Using,
1841
01:39:14.199 --> 01:39:15.640
I think it was like, I want to say it was,
1842
01:39:15.659 --> 01:39:17.220
it was, I want to say it was about 1100.
1843
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:22.409
It was either 1100 or 11,000 agents. to come up
1844
01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:27.319
with the answer for this. And they don't want to
1845
01:39:27.340 --> 01:39:31.840
give credit to the mathematicians. So the thought is that
1846
01:39:32.420 --> 01:39:35.180
it's kind of like going back to when we've discussed
1847
01:39:35.220 --> 01:39:39.329
in the past, training or OpenAI, Anthropic, any of these
1848
01:39:39.430 --> 01:39:47.390
AI places, training their information on textbooks, on author's written word,
1849
01:39:47.949 --> 01:39:52.970
on songs, Suno, for instance. on music that's already out there,
1850
01:39:52.989 --> 01:39:57.569
on music catalogs so they can train their AIs. And
1851
01:39:58.090 --> 01:40:00.750
they don't want to give the credit to the mathematicians
1852
01:40:00.829 --> 01:40:04.569
that they pretty much used their information to brute force
1853
01:40:04.609 --> 01:40:12.630
the answer for this question. It's really sketchy. And again,
1854
01:40:12.750 --> 01:40:13.350
Sam Altman.
1855
01:40:14.489 --> 01:40:17.869
Yeah, and I agree. I think it's sketchy as fuck.
1856
01:40:18.489 --> 01:40:24.600
And although if we're playing devil's advocate, all advances in
1857
01:40:24.659 --> 01:40:28.460
technology are based off of previous advances, right? We would
1858
01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:32.439
not have the jet engine without whoever invented the wheel, right?
1859
01:40:32.460 --> 01:40:34.260
I mean, so.
1860
01:40:35.890 --> 01:40:40.010
I think that is part of human progression and technological
1861
01:40:40.050 --> 01:40:43.149
progression is that you have to have a thing before
1862
01:40:43.210 --> 01:40:47.760
that thing can then enhance other things. So I get
1863
01:40:47.819 --> 01:40:52.329
the argument that Anthropic is going to make, which is, yes,
1864
01:40:52.829 --> 01:40:59.689
those mathematicians contributed the raw, hard-earned math to the equations,
1865
01:41:00.270 --> 01:41:04.079
but our computers took that and made connections that they
1866
01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:05.199
weren't able to make before.
1867
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:08.340
I get that that's their argument, but I agree with you.
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01:41:10.779 --> 01:41:12.180
If I were the Clay.
1869
01:41:13.590 --> 01:41:18.840
Institute, I wouldn't give the million dollars to To the computers,
1870
01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:25.510
to the computer company. I just wouldn't. You're talking about
1871
01:41:25.550 --> 01:41:30.270
an advancement in coding, not an advancement in mathematics. The
1872
01:41:30.329 --> 01:41:34.850
coding did the mathematics, but you're just coders. You're just
1873
01:41:34.890 --> 01:41:38.140
trying to make a supercomputer that can do the mathematics,
1874
01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:41.359
but you're not a mathematician. So to me, that's where
1875
01:41:41.380 --> 01:41:42.479
the delineation is drawn.
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01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:46.680
But who am I? Why not if you're Sam Altman?
1877
01:41:49.189 --> 01:41:51.250
You need all the street credit you can get. You
1878
01:41:53.270 --> 01:41:56.130
need all of the goodwill that you can possibly manufacture
1879
01:41:56.149 --> 01:41:59.050
because you're out there. You and your little world eye
1880
01:41:59.069 --> 01:42:01.569
that you tried to put out all over the world
1881
01:42:01.590 --> 01:42:04.710
to get people to come up and basically sign on
1882
01:42:04.750 --> 01:42:09.029
to your device and all the other weird stuff. And
1883
01:42:09.250 --> 01:42:14.460
everybody knows about you and your sister. There's not a
1884
01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:18.439
lot of goodwill for Sam Altman. He's basically a CEO-
1885
01:42:19.319 --> 01:42:24.720
of a nefarious company that does sketchy shit and works
1886
01:42:24.739 --> 01:42:28.520
with sketchy people and nobody and nobody trusts why not
1887
01:42:28.579 --> 01:42:32.819
go out to those mathematicians go hey we're going to
1888
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:37.359
give you access to 10 000 agents what do you
1889
01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:39.920
guys want to do with it let's take the problems
1890
01:42:39.939 --> 01:42:41.560
that you want to do let's go ahead and let's
1891
01:42:41.619 --> 01:42:48.020
let's let's do a deal We'll bring you in-house. Here's
1892
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:50.760
a couple hundred thousand dollars for a grant. Use our
1893
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:56.750
tech and come up with those things. You guys can
1894
01:42:56.770 --> 01:43:01.189
have the million dollars answer to the question. Just tell
1895
01:43:01.220 --> 01:43:03.699
them we worked with you on it. And now, now,
1896
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:07.239
now you've, now you've, you've, you've, there's a synergy there, right? Now,
1897
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:09.350
now you just, you just, you work, you work with
1898
01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:11.430
the scientific community. People probably didn't like you in the
1899
01:43:11.470 --> 01:43:12.850
first place, but now you, you know, that's a little
1900
01:43:12.869 --> 01:43:14.210
bit of gloss notes, a little bit of goodwill.
1901
01:43:14.489 --> 01:43:14.649
Yeah.
1902
01:43:15.170 --> 01:43:16.489
Yeah. Yeah.
1903
01:43:16.569 --> 01:43:18.170
I just don't understand.
1904
01:43:17.689 --> 01:43:20.069
Why he's that stupid. He is, he is just not,
1905
01:43:20.750 --> 01:43:22.109
he's an idiot. He is just.
1906
01:43:22.149 --> 01:43:24.789
I don't, I don't, I, I, and I've said this before.
1907
01:43:24.810 --> 01:43:28.329
I actually don't think that people like him.
1908
01:43:29.810 --> 01:43:32.930
Think that they're the same as everyone else. I think
1909
01:43:32.970 --> 01:43:34.550
he thinks he's on a different level.
1910
01:43:34.649 --> 01:43:38.010
And look, look on some, on some things he is
1911
01:43:38.069 --> 01:43:41.470
on a different level. I, again, I don't understand computers the.
1912
01:43:41.430 --> 01:43:41.829
Way he does.
1913
01:43:42.729 --> 01:43:45.470
I would challenge him to work a day in my
1914
01:43:45.529 --> 01:43:47.640
job or work a day in your job and be
1915
01:43:47.649 --> 01:43:48.479
able to succeed at it.
1916
01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:49.760
He wouldn't be able to.
1917
01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.960
So look, we can all excel in things, but I
1918
01:43:54.020 --> 01:43:57.289
think he gets, you get to that level where, And
1919
01:43:57.329 --> 01:43:59.470
I don't know if it's the money or the power
1920
01:43:59.710 --> 01:44:04.550
or a combination of both or just the prestige that AI.
1921
01:44:04.289 --> 01:44:05.869
Has right now in society.
1922
01:44:06.590 --> 01:44:09.189
But whatever it is, I don't think he thinks he's
1923
01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:12.060
actually even part of the same species as us. So
1924
01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:14.800
it would never occur to him. If you were to
1925
01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:18.300
ask him, hey, do you want to buy an F1
1926
01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:23.750
racing team, right? He would say, yes, but I don't
1927
01:44:23.789 --> 01:44:27.260
need a driver. I mean, That would be his answer.
1928
01:44:27.659 --> 01:44:30.989
I'll create the car that will AI drive itself and
1929
01:44:31.090 --> 01:44:34.550
beat every other human driver out there. And what he's
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01:44:34.630 --> 01:44:39.350
missing is we watch F1. We like car racing because
1931
01:44:39.369 --> 01:44:41.489
of the human drama of it, because of the strategy
1932
01:44:41.529 --> 01:44:45.340
that's involved in those moments of when strategy is needed,
1933
01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:49.039
when to pit, when to change your tires, when you
1934
01:44:49.060 --> 01:44:52.180
need a new body, when you need to re-engineer your
1935
01:44:52.800 --> 01:44:54.600
fluid dynamics around the air of your car.
1936
01:44:55.949 --> 01:44:57.810
That's why we watch it. We don't watch it to
1937
01:44:57.850 --> 01:44:59.319
watch cars go around in circles.
1938
01:44:59.340 --> 01:45:01.239
I mean, unless you're a NASCAR fan, then you do
1939
01:45:01.380 --> 01:45:04.720
just watch cars go around in circles, but F1 or
1940
01:45:04.779 --> 01:45:08.840
Le Mans or Baja, these, these races have so much
1941
01:45:08.939 --> 01:45:09.659
strategy in them.
1942
01:45:10.100 --> 01:45:11.800
The driver is why we watch.
1943
01:45:12.579 --> 01:45:12.850
Yes.
1944
01:45:13.050 --> 01:45:15.989
The machines are cool, but I don't think Altman would
1945
01:45:16.029 --> 01:45:18.130
see it that way. I think Altman would say, I
1946
01:45:18.149 --> 01:45:21.210
don't need a driver. I don't even need anyone in
1947
01:45:21.250 --> 01:45:23.310
the car. I I'm going to build the thing and
1948
01:45:23.350 --> 01:45:26.779
make it autonomous. And I, and, Completely missing the point
1949
01:45:26.920 --> 01:45:30.649
of what it is to be human. That's what I think.
1950
01:45:33.250 --> 01:45:34.090
What would Elon have done?
1951
01:45:38.010 --> 01:45:40.130
Yeah, that's a good question. He might be in that
1952
01:45:40.170 --> 01:45:40.890
same category.
1953
01:45:41.850 --> 01:45:46.439
I think Elon would say, no, of course I don't
1954
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:49.699
want to buy an F1 race team. I'm too busy
1955
01:45:49.739 --> 01:45:53.760
going to Mars. I think his whole goal is to
1956
01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:56.779
save humanity. And I think he thinks the way to
1957
01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:58.020
do that is to get off planet.
1958
01:45:59.300 --> 01:46:01.100
I think he would have trained us off of a
1959
01:46:01.140 --> 01:46:04.420
human being first. And then, okay. And maybe. Now let's
1960
01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:08.600
go and enhance it. Yeah, maybe. I think Sam Alton
1961
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:11.479
is just skipping over that. I think this is about money. Yeah,
1962
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:15.770
I do too. I think it's about money. I would
1963
01:46:15.810 --> 01:46:20.609
be very concerned about any company going to bed with OpenAI. Oh,
1964
01:46:20.670 --> 01:46:23.869
me too. I would be very, very concerned about it.
1965
01:46:24.380 --> 01:46:28.699
Me too. There's a tremendous amount of vulnerability there. I
1966
01:46:28.720 --> 01:46:31.979
think there's poor leadership. I think you have a tremendous
1967
01:46:32.180 --> 01:46:38.590
number of issues that, honestly, okay, here's a game. Out
1968
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.090
of all the AI companies that are out there, let's
1969
01:46:42.109 --> 01:46:45.409
go ahead and throw Palantir in there also. Palantir, Anthropic, SpaceX,
1970
01:46:46.329 --> 01:46:50.569
and OpenAI. And we won't even include the Chinese ones
1971
01:46:50.609 --> 01:46:53.289
in there. Which one destroys the world?
1972
01:46:57.229 --> 01:46:59.449
I'm not going to give enough credit to Altman. I
1973
01:46:59.489 --> 01:47:07.979
don't think OpenAI destroys it. I think OpenAI does something
1974
01:47:08.069 --> 01:47:11.039
that opens the door to have it be destroyed. So
1975
01:47:11.060 --> 01:47:13.609
I don't think that they– I think Palantir destroys it.
1976
01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:19.979
That's– because they've almost exclusively gone after, you know, Defense
1977
01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:24.470
Department contracts, DARPA stuff. And so it's like they are
1978
01:47:24.550 --> 01:47:31.380
inherently– preoccupied with human destruction, it seems like. These other
1979
01:47:31.420 --> 01:47:33.640
companies might do it by accident, but I think they're
1980
01:47:33.779 --> 01:47:36.029
trying to do it. They're going to be the ones
1981
01:47:36.090 --> 01:47:37.649
that build the fucking Terminator.
1982
01:47:38.449 --> 01:47:39.970
So my money's on pound.
1983
01:47:41.050 --> 01:47:46.909
I think OpenAI, OpenAI is cannon fodder. That's what I
1984
01:47:46.939 --> 01:47:49.600
think they are. I think they're like, they're just all
1985
01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:50.899
about sheer numbers.
1986
01:47:51.020 --> 01:47:51.939
Yes, exactly.
1987
01:47:52.060 --> 01:47:56.159
Sheer numbers, get a fuck ton of soldiers out in
1988
01:47:56.220 --> 01:47:59.020
front of of us and buy us time to really
1989
01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:02.020
deploy our real weapons that's what yes i think that's
1990
01:48:02.060 --> 01:48:02.560
what that is.
1991
01:48:05.220 --> 01:48:09.279
I could see that yeah i i i unfortunately i
1992
01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:10.710
could see that i could see that.
1993
01:48:12.529 --> 01:48:14.510
Well yeah and i hope i'm wrong jesus i hope
1994
01:48:14.850 --> 01:48:16.649
none of them bring about our destruction.
1995
01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:23.140
Palantir is going to be the control point, right? They're
1996
01:48:23.159 --> 01:48:26.960
the surveillance. That's your NSA.
1997
01:48:28.340 --> 01:48:30.159
And what do you think they're doing with all that
1998
01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:31.619
information they're gathering on all of us?
1999
01:48:33.140 --> 01:48:34.500
Yeah.
2000
01:48:34.539 --> 01:48:39.210
I mean, it's nothing good. Yeah, it's nothing good. No,
2001
01:48:39.250 --> 01:48:41.390
I'm not saying it's good.
2002
01:48:41.949 --> 01:48:46.090
I'm saying they're because OpenAI is running cover for them.
2003
01:48:47.130 --> 01:48:47.329
Yeah.
2004
01:48:48.090 --> 01:48:50.720
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, for sure. I think
2005
01:48:50.729 --> 01:48:51.060
you're right.
2006
01:48:51.460 --> 01:48:54.420
I think maybe they're all one company, but they're just
2007
01:48:54.460 --> 01:48:57.659
like different arms of the same beast. You know, heads
2008
01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:01.039
on the Hydra or whatever. Because it does seem like
2009
01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:05.220
they're all filling different niches, right? ChatGPT is just like, well,
2010
01:49:05.319 --> 01:49:06.399
everybody can use it now.
2011
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:06.800
Yay.
2012
01:49:06.859 --> 01:49:07.840
And Grok.
2013
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:11.340
We have access to AI, but the shit they're doing
2014
01:49:11.380 --> 01:49:15.640
behind closed doors, it's like, yeah, let the peons play
2015
01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:20.510
with our little toys. We're developing real alien tech shit here.
2016
01:49:20.970 --> 01:49:23.449
That's what I think Palantir is doing. That's where I
2017
01:49:23.470 --> 01:49:25.890
think Palantir is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yep.
2018
01:49:27.010 --> 01:49:27.550
From Hefei.
2019
01:49:29.069 --> 01:49:30.550
We will table this for right now.
2020
01:49:30.409 --> 01:49:32.869
Because you're here and we have limited time, but we
2021
01:49:32.890 --> 01:49:37.960
will get back to that. Here's what I need an
2022
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.439
update on, and I think I speak for everybody here.
2023
01:49:41.779 --> 01:49:42.699
How is the man purse?
2024
01:49:44.619 --> 01:49:52.609
It's fine. It's standing guard over home. It's stayed home. Okay.
2025
01:49:52.989 --> 01:49:54.869
I guess what I'm getting at, did you see the
2026
01:49:54.930 --> 01:49:59.390
picture– Because it seems like there's an intruder in your house.
2027
01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:01.470
I don't know if.
2028
01:50:01.430 --> 01:50:05.210
You saw the picture that got posted to chat that
2029
01:50:05.430 --> 01:50:06.090
Susan put up.
2030
01:50:06.750 --> 01:50:07.470
It seems like.
2031
01:50:08.949 --> 01:50:12.890
There's something that's sort of looming over and ominously looking
2032
01:50:12.949 --> 01:50:17.909
at the man bag. And I'm wondering how the man
2033
01:50:17.930 --> 01:50:18.630
bag's doing.
2034
01:50:22.109 --> 01:50:24.720
It's hard to find. You have to really look. Because
2035
01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:25.380
it was a really.
2036
01:50:26.789 --> 01:50:27.789
It's hard to find.
2037
01:50:30.020 --> 01:50:34.579
Fitz, did you look at the video, though, that Lisa posted?
2038
01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:44.310
I just looked at it. Oh, my God. Oh, geez.
2039
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:46.810
I can't even reach you people.
2040
01:50:47.289 --> 01:50:52.630
Lisa wins Saturday night, period. It's end of days type stuff.
2041
01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:56.399
Oh, God, that's so good.
2042
01:50:56.800 --> 01:51:01.340
She worked the WNBA angle. You're in a jersey. Oh,
2043
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:05.960
if you were in a miniskirt, it would have been beautiful. Oh, shit. Oh,
2044
01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:08.840
my God. Wow.
2045
01:51:09.680 --> 01:51:12.260
Oh, my God. I just saw it. That's awesome.
2046
01:51:13.460 --> 01:51:15.319
Sophie Cunningham, Caitlin Clark.
2047
01:51:15.340 --> 01:51:19.220
I told you, dude. You are next level now. Look
2048
01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:20.579
at the people.
2049
01:51:20.340 --> 01:51:21.340
That you're videoed with.
2050
01:51:24.109 --> 01:51:24.470
Wow.
2051
01:51:24.550 --> 01:51:27.250
He's a meme lord. He's absolutely a meme lord.
2052
01:51:27.310 --> 01:51:34.689
Holy shit. Oh, let's, um, let's do the final report, please.
2053
01:51:35.609 --> 01:51:36.369
Okay.
2054
01:51:37.069 --> 01:51:38.449
Wow, what a night.
2055
01:51:38.470 --> 01:51:55.810
Oh, as you know, since Hanrahan was let go and
2056
01:51:55.869 --> 01:52:00.829
Nong's on maternity leave, the Farmer 4 staff is someone.
2057
01:52:01.989 --> 01:52:02.470
Wait, what?
2058
01:52:03.470 --> 01:52:04.609
Nong's on maternity leave?
2059
01:52:04.649 --> 01:52:05.489
Nong's pregnant?
2060
01:52:06.989 --> 01:52:07.289
Yeah.
2061
01:52:08.050 --> 01:52:09.750
Hefe, is there something you want to tell us?
2062
01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:15.760
Oh, hey, hey. As Ernie McCracken said, I pulled out
2063
01:52:15.779 --> 01:52:16.899
of her really girly.
2064
01:52:19.140 --> 01:52:21.420
I had to ask. You know I had to ask.
2065
01:52:22.970 --> 01:52:24.210
I thought I told you guys.
2066
01:52:25.020 --> 01:52:30.779
Another 18 years of child support. You're so fucked. Go ahead.
2067
01:52:30.859 --> 01:52:35.319
Anyway, the farm report staff is somewhat depleted, short-handed. I've
2068
01:52:35.340 --> 01:52:39.560
been wearing all the hats. That includes the listener mailbag.
2069
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:44.170
People are mad. They're mad that we're giving plants a
2070
01:52:44.189 --> 01:52:49.390
bad name. We had that Australian plant that irritated the
2071
01:52:49.430 --> 01:52:52.579
skin really bad and cause people to throw themselves off
2072
01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:55.119
the cliffs and stuff. We had, we had all kinds
2073
01:52:55.180 --> 01:52:57.619
of bad plants. So we're going to, you know, I
2074
01:52:57.619 --> 01:53:00.039
went digging and I found a couple of amazing plants
2075
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:09.539
to kind of offset the plants. First there's the bucket orchid.
2076
01:53:14.609 --> 01:53:16.729
It's named that because it's flower forms a sort of
2077
01:53:16.770 --> 01:53:21.560
a bucket. filled with sticky substance that bees fall into.
2078
01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:24.159
There's only one way out once they fall into this
2079
01:53:24.180 --> 01:53:29.880
little trap, and that's through a small kind of a
2080
01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:33.949
hole in the wall of this bucket. And the bee
2081
01:53:33.989 --> 01:53:38.609
squeezes through, and while it's like a little tunnel, and
2082
01:53:38.630 --> 01:53:43.550
it squeezes through there, and as it emerges, the tunnel
2083
01:53:43.590 --> 01:53:47.960
kind of grips down on the bee, And that gives
2084
01:53:48.020 --> 01:53:51.630
a plant just enough time to glue pollen sacks on
2085
01:53:51.649 --> 01:53:55.090
the bee's back. And then the bee takes the pollen
2086
01:53:55.109 --> 01:53:57.949
to another plant, which is pretty unbelievable.
2087
01:53:58.930 --> 01:53:59.609
I did that the.
2088
01:53:59.550 --> 01:54:06.439
Other night with my wife. She loves that shit.
2089
01:54:06.479 --> 01:54:08.319
You put a little pollen backpack on her and sent
2090
01:54:08.340 --> 01:54:08.800
her on her way?
2091
01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:11.920
That's awesome.
2092
01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:14.119
I just glued pollen to her back.
2093
01:54:14.579 --> 01:54:15.430
Good job. Go get it.
2094
01:54:15.460 --> 01:54:15.600
Look.
2095
01:54:16.850 --> 01:54:18.680
Other people call it other things, but that's what we
2096
01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:20.239
call it. Sorry, Hefe, go ahead.
2097
01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:28.510
Yeah, so then there's the bee orchid. This plant has
2098
01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:33.430
an even more amazing way to pollinate. So the lip,
2099
01:54:33.590 --> 01:54:41.340
the central part of the flower, is fuzzy. Jesus.
2100
01:54:42.579 --> 01:54:44.460
I've had just enough to drink.
2101
01:54:44.760 --> 01:54:50.689
It's... It's fuzzy and brown with yellow markings, closely mimicking
2102
01:54:50.789 --> 01:54:54.250
the body of a bee. Now that's not all. The
2103
01:54:54.289 --> 01:54:59.430
petals are, they're, my God, my writing. So the petals
2104
01:54:59.489 --> 01:55:03.569
are the pink outer parts that look like a bee's wings.
2105
01:55:04.250 --> 01:55:08.069
And that's not all. The flower releases a scent that
2106
01:55:08.130 --> 01:55:12.600
mimics a female bee's pheromones. So the male bees are
2107
01:55:12.729 --> 01:55:15.229
all up in that. And they try to meet with
2108
01:55:15.289 --> 01:55:19.180
a flower and they get the flowers pollen all over
2109
01:55:19.220 --> 01:55:21.260
their bodies. And then they fly away, probably a little
2110
01:55:21.300 --> 01:55:24.739
frustrated or maybe they finished. I don't know, but they
2111
01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:28.340
fly away and, uh, they help that plant pollinates that way.
2112
01:55:28.939 --> 01:55:31.800
Holy shit, man. I just, I actually just looked this up.
2113
01:55:31.979 --> 01:55:34.420
It does look like a P that's.
2114
01:55:35.539 --> 01:55:35.819
Yeah.
2115
01:55:35.899 --> 01:55:37.239
What is the, what was the name of it again?
2116
01:55:37.859 --> 01:55:39.500
The bell was the B orchid.
2117
01:55:39.520 --> 01:55:40.319
Yeah. Yeah.
2118
01:55:42.779 --> 01:55:43.979
That's crazy.
2119
01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:46.180
I had all kinds of innuendos I was going to
2120
01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:47.739
put in there, and then I saw a picture.
2121
01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:50.199
I was like, Jesus, that's crazy.
2122
01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.579
I was told to stay away from girls that have
2123
01:55:55.640 --> 01:55:56.520
organs that look like that.
2124
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:01.600
I also want to stay away from girls, period. If
2125
01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:05.399
they don't listen.
2126
01:56:05.460 --> 01:56:06.619
Keep wearing that man bag.
2127
01:56:07.079 --> 01:56:09.199
Yeah, especially when they give you amazing gifts.
2128
01:56:10.140 --> 01:56:12.880
It's a dude magnet, or a chick magnet. Whatever.
2129
01:56:14.579 --> 01:56:16.539
Oh, man. That's crazy.
2130
01:56:16.880 --> 01:56:19.680
All right. I made the mistake of telling Gretchen that
2131
01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:22.220
I got a man bag as a gift. She just
2132
01:56:22.260 --> 01:56:23.020
teed off on me.
2133
01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:25.590
Well, as she should.
2134
01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:27.550
Are you going to put your lip gloss in it?
2135
01:56:30.210 --> 01:56:35.109
It's funny you say that. I cannot wait for you
2136
01:56:35.189 --> 01:56:36.470
to listen to the show on Monday.
2137
01:56:36.489 --> 01:56:39.420
Yeah. We got a surprise for you.
2138
01:56:39.960 --> 01:56:41.100
We got a surprise for you there.
2139
01:56:41.220 --> 01:56:41.420
Yep.
2140
01:56:41.819 --> 01:56:48.699
It's good, man. It might be Steve's best showing ever.
2141
01:56:51.039 --> 01:56:51.810
That's saying something.
2142
01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:54.590
Chet wants to know what flavor lip gloss you carry.
2143
01:56:54.630 --> 01:56:54.729
That?
2144
01:56:54.750 --> 01:57:17.439
I don't know if you get it or not. You
2145
01:57:17.460 --> 01:57:18.260
know what?
2146
01:57:18.399 --> 01:57:20.239
That means it's cherry.
2147
01:57:20.930 --> 01:57:25.949
Or semen. It's a good thing to know that we're
2148
01:57:26.010 --> 01:57:29.329
all friends. And it's okay to be a punching bag.
2149
01:57:29.409 --> 01:57:33.050
I've found that out over the years. It's okay to
2150
01:57:33.149 --> 01:57:34.350
be the butt of the jokes. I don't mind.
2151
01:57:34.369 --> 01:57:34.430
No.
2152
01:57:35.210 --> 01:57:36.390
As long as everybody's having fun.
2153
01:57:36.869 --> 01:57:40.430
That's right. That's right. And you kind of said, go
2154
01:57:40.470 --> 01:57:41.140
for it tonight.
2155
01:57:41.409 --> 01:57:42.770
Oh, definitely. All right.
2156
01:57:43.180 --> 01:57:43.439
Cool.
2157
01:57:43.739 --> 01:57:43.880
Yeah.
2158
01:57:44.970 --> 01:57:47.890
Yeah, I couldn't keep this under wraps. Are you kidding me?
2159
01:57:48.689 --> 01:57:51.449
If you can't make fun of yourself, then someone else
2160
01:57:51.470 --> 01:57:52.640
is going to do it for you, and you're not
2161
01:57:52.649 --> 01:57:53.699
going to like it as much.
2162
01:57:53.819 --> 01:57:54.279
It's true.
2163
01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:55.840
Might as well be the frontrunner.
2164
01:57:56.579 --> 01:58:01.760
Justin says he would stack bodies for Jeff, so you're good.
2165
01:58:02.300 --> 01:58:03.310
Yeah, 100%.
2166
01:58:03.310 --> 01:58:03.819
Bill's mom.
2167
01:58:04.189 --> 01:58:05.310
That's all I'm going to say about that.
2168
01:58:05.529 --> 01:58:08.350
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
2169
01:58:08.810 --> 01:58:11.840
That's really college fun. parlay together this afternoon.
2170
01:58:11.859 --> 01:58:13.699
How'd it go?
2171
01:58:14.039 --> 01:58:17.560
One of the legs was Texas plus four and a
2172
01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:21.390
half against Ohio State. They were down 23 to three
2173
01:58:21.430 --> 01:58:28.069
in the fourth quarter and came back and won. Holy shit.
2174
01:58:28.090 --> 01:58:28.770
Did you win that?
2175
01:58:29.729 --> 01:58:34.420
It's that kept it alive. I got Utah minus six
2176
01:58:34.439 --> 01:58:37.319
and a half. They're up by three touchdowns now. And
2177
01:58:37.340 --> 01:58:41.539
then the last leg is the degenerate special, as they
2178
01:58:41.579 --> 01:58:45.689
call it, the Hawaii straight up.
2179
01:58:46.229 --> 01:58:46.470
Nice.
2180
01:58:46.489 --> 01:58:50.869
That's that's the other gambler special. That's what everybody tries
2181
01:58:50.890 --> 01:58:52.590
to make their money up on. Cause it's a, it's
2182
01:58:52.630 --> 01:58:56.680
a nine, nine o'clock PM start cause it's in Hawaii. So,
2183
01:58:57.380 --> 01:58:59.180
If you lose your ass all day, you can always
2184
01:58:59.220 --> 01:59:02.760
make it up with Hawaii. So that's my last leg, man,
2185
01:59:02.779 --> 01:59:05.239
because Utah is looking pretty good. It's only the second quarter,
2186
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but yeah, Hawaii.
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01:59:08.430 --> 01:59:11.630
Where are they anyway? I know where Hawaii is, but
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01:59:11.649 --> 01:59:12.270
where are they playing?
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01:59:15.510 --> 01:59:16.750
Is it at Hawaii or not?
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01:59:17.270 --> 01:59:18.779
Yeah, it's in Hawaii, isn't it?
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01:59:18.829 --> 01:59:19.689
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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01:59:20.409 --> 01:59:21.729
New Mexico State at Hawaii.
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01:59:23.090 --> 01:59:26.090
Well, New Mexico State, they've got a lot going on
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01:59:26.130 --> 01:59:30.229
right now because Trump wants to call them New America, too. Yeah,
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01:59:30.289 --> 01:59:32.100
that's true. They're an emotional wreck.
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01:59:32.770 --> 01:59:36.939
New America. I fucking got it, dude.
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01:59:38.220 --> 01:59:41.760
Did you guys see that Texas wants to annex them now?
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01:59:43.079 --> 01:59:45.939
Yep. Well, certain counties.
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01:59:46.819 --> 01:59:47.119
Really?
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01:59:47.739 --> 01:59:51.010
Yeah, like the whole eastern side of New Mexico is
2201
01:59:51.090 --> 01:59:53.720
going to be part of Texas soon. Yeah, the whole
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01:59:53.779 --> 01:59:55.220
thing is– this is the kind.
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01:59:55.100 --> 02:00:02.090
Of talk I– again, another great, great interview, fantastic podcast.
2204
02:00:02.210 --> 02:00:05.289
Lex Freeman interviewed one of the leading scholars on the
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02:00:05.329 --> 02:00:08.949
Civil War, and he just– he talked about all the
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02:00:08.989 --> 02:00:13.529
little things that led up to the big decision of like, well, no,
2207
02:00:13.550 --> 02:00:14.729
we're going to have.
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02:00:14.590 --> 02:00:18.739
To go to war now. And it's these little digs.
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02:00:18.819 --> 02:00:22.060
It's these little things that start to add up.
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02:00:22.609 --> 02:00:27.649
That eventually you can't excuse them anymore.
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02:00:27.979 --> 02:00:30.619
It's just like, fuck this. It's this on top of
2212
02:00:30.659 --> 02:00:32.600
that on top of that. And then you get A
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02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:34.739
through Z and it's like, well, we've got the alphabet.
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02:00:34.760 --> 02:00:36.739
We might as well go to war. And I just
2215
02:00:36.779 --> 02:00:40.000
see these little digs and it's just like, damn, here
2216
02:00:40.020 --> 02:00:42.260
we go. I'm not saying there's going to be civil war.
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02:00:42.279 --> 02:00:44.760
I'm just saying it's the little shit.
2218
02:00:45.819 --> 02:00:47.600
Well, it makes you wonder when things are going to
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02:00:47.619 --> 02:00:52.180
be caught. Actually, when this came out, Alberta came to mind.
2220
02:00:53.380 --> 02:00:57.180
Yeah, exactly.
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02:00:59.420 --> 02:01:06.779
Hey, there's a new benchmarking tool. Astra. You can actually
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02:01:06.850 --> 02:01:09.449
check your AI engines. AI has been a big thing
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02:01:09.470 --> 02:01:12.909
for us tonight. I hope it's as interesting as the
2224
02:01:12.930 --> 02:01:16.350
conversation has been. But you can benchmark your AI through
2225
02:01:16.369 --> 02:01:19.739
a new tool that is just like slapping a chick's ass.
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02:01:24.010 --> 02:01:25.909
I want to know, why is it on a beach?
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02:01:27.130 --> 02:01:29.909
Is that where a lot of ass slapping happens?
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02:01:29.930 --> 02:01:33.630
I think it's more for the, well, I mean, they
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02:01:33.649 --> 02:01:36.970
could have put it, because she's wearing a bikini. It's
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02:01:37.010 --> 02:01:38.970
only the bottom half. So, I mean, the beach, it's
2231
02:01:38.989 --> 02:01:42.829
kind of a nice background. I kind of thought it was.
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02:01:42.850 --> 02:01:44.069
Kind of innocent.
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02:01:44.260 --> 02:01:47.239
Kind of scenic, yeah. It's not, you know, you could
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02:01:47.260 --> 02:01:50.279
have been on like a pool or something along those lines.
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02:01:50.520 --> 02:01:53.479
Been clinical about it, but this is more fun. You know,
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02:01:54.550 --> 02:01:56.729
So the idea is that you slap the ass and
2237
02:01:56.789 --> 02:02:00.250
you can tell how fast the AI processes.
2238
02:02:05.460 --> 02:02:07.359
I don't think that's why guys are doing it.
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02:02:07.380 --> 02:02:10.699
I got to get back in. All right.
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02:02:12.020 --> 02:02:13.399
Have a good night, sir. Happy birthday.
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02:02:13.510 --> 02:02:15.930
Thanks for the. Yeah. Thanks for the orchids.
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02:02:16.430 --> 02:02:17.170
I love you guys.
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02:02:17.689 --> 02:02:17.920
Love you.
2244
02:02:18.050 --> 02:02:18.569
Love you too, man.
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02:02:21.840 --> 02:02:24.380
Oh, fastest 15 minutes in podcasting.
2246
02:02:24.979 --> 02:02:28.760
I don't know where he gets the shit.
2247
02:02:28.819 --> 02:02:33.300
I mean, again, with the whole pregnancy and all that,
2248
02:02:33.380 --> 02:02:35.460
I mean, I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying, like,
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02:02:36.770 --> 02:02:41.930
once again, he's taking on the responsibility. It's just, it's
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02:02:42.069 --> 02:02:42.569
pretty amazing.
2251
02:02:43.649 --> 02:02:47.710
I'm trying to figure out, and you guys will have
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02:02:47.729 --> 02:02:52.579
to go back and listen to previous episodes Razor wires
2253
02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:56.699
about Nong. I'm trying to figure out how Nong got pregnant.
2254
02:02:56.720 --> 02:03:01.670
I mean, it's 2026. Yeah, it is. And anybody can
2255
02:03:01.689 --> 02:03:07.770
get pregnant. So I'm not saying. No.
2256
02:03:08.829 --> 02:03:12.329
I'm not even saying like physiologically I'm confused. I just don't.
2257
02:03:12.449 --> 02:03:16.479
I didn't know if Nong had a. Was this a
2258
02:03:16.579 --> 02:03:20.600
serious relationship or. some kind of one night stand that went,
2259
02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:24.000
that went like, oops, I came in you or like, I, what's,
2260
02:03:24.979 --> 02:03:25.859
what are we talking about here?
2261
02:03:26.590 --> 02:03:28.369
Well, and it's not, it might not even have a,
2262
02:03:28.569 --> 02:03:30.970
I mean, it might've been, he's got a, uh, the janitor.
2263
02:03:31.090 --> 02:03:32.369
I didn't say it was heavy.
2264
02:03:32.390 --> 02:03:33.449
Yeah.
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02:03:34.250 --> 02:03:34.489
Why?
2266
02:03:34.649 --> 02:03:40.220
I wouldn't assume that. No, I'm not. Hefe doesn't do that.
2267
02:03:40.859 --> 02:03:45.960
So HR, HR, two questions. One HR Sigmund, there's a
2268
02:03:45.960 --> 02:03:48.079
janitor that we had to fire. I don't want to
2269
02:03:48.100 --> 02:03:52.159
know if we want to get into that. Yeah. But question,
2270
02:03:52.220 --> 02:03:57.239
does the insurance plan cover Nong, or is Nong a contractor?
2271
02:03:57.479 --> 02:03:58.779
I think Nong was a contractor.
2272
02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:03.930
I want to say that that changed about two months ago.
2273
02:04:03.970 --> 02:04:09.630
I think Nong got hired on permanently, got brought on salary.
2274
02:04:10.449 --> 02:04:12.489
But I don't know. I could be wrong. Again, that's
2275
02:04:12.649 --> 02:04:13.789
an HR question.
2276
02:04:13.850 --> 02:04:16.939
After Hanahan's meltdown when he was on the helicopter.
2277
02:04:16.949 --> 02:04:17.029
Well.
2278
02:04:17.689 --> 02:04:18.199
Exactly.
2279
02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:24.039
Once we put Hanerhan down, relatively speaking. Yeah, I don't know.
2280
02:04:24.920 --> 02:04:27.920
Those are all good questions, I think. Look, we will
2281
02:04:27.979 --> 02:04:30.869
find out answers for you people by next week.
2282
02:04:32.289 --> 02:04:36.550
So, we need to get a baby pool going? And
2283
02:04:36.770 --> 02:04:39.289
who's throwing the baby shower?
2284
02:04:39.329 --> 02:04:43.680
Diaper fund? Yeah, I'm not good at baby showers.
2285
02:04:43.920 --> 02:04:44.220
I'm not.
2286
02:04:47.109 --> 02:04:49.170
Which beer are you taking to bed, though? You're good
2287
02:04:49.189 --> 02:04:49.449
at that.
2288
02:04:51.649 --> 02:04:52.369
I am good at that.
2289
02:04:52.850 --> 02:04:57.140
Okay, so the nightmare grew on me a bit. I
2290
02:04:58.579 --> 02:05:02.100
will tell you, as it warmed up, that rose flavor,
2291
02:05:02.859 --> 02:05:07.529
it was almost more of a scent, but the olfactory
2292
02:05:07.569 --> 02:05:09.029
played into my taste buds.
2293
02:05:09.069 --> 02:05:14.109
Of course. I really like this beer. I think if
2294
02:05:14.130 --> 02:05:15.270
you're going to go a sour.
2295
02:05:15.649 --> 02:05:18.100
I I've had so many sours that I'm like, ah,
2296
02:05:18.640 --> 02:05:20.460
it's just a sour, you know, my, my first beer,
2297
02:05:20.479 --> 02:05:21.199
it's just a sour.
2298
02:05:21.239 --> 02:05:21.899
It's it's okay.
2299
02:05:22.760 --> 02:05:26.079
Um, nothing unique about it. This one was like, no,
2300
02:05:26.140 --> 02:05:28.649
this is a sour, but it's unlike anything you've ever
2301
02:05:28.689 --> 02:05:32.869
had in your whole life. Very, very good. Very, almost
2302
02:05:32.909 --> 02:05:36.510
like a, like the girl you never saw coming, you know, you're,
2303
02:05:36.529 --> 02:05:38.130
you're sitting at the bar and you just want to
2304
02:05:38.149 --> 02:05:38.850
be left alone.
2305
02:05:38.869 --> 02:05:39.369
Wow.
2306
02:05:39.850 --> 02:05:42.340
And, uh, and she just catches your eye, you know,
2307
02:05:42.380 --> 02:05:43.960
and you just, you can't, you don't.
2308
02:05:43.880 --> 02:05:44.399
Even know why.
2309
02:05:45.500 --> 02:05:48.539
She's not a 10. Yeah, exactly.
2310
02:05:48.560 --> 02:05:51.789
She's not a 10. She's she's she's not a five.
2311
02:05:52.010 --> 02:05:55.170
She just there's just something that's like intoxicating about her.
2312
02:05:55.970 --> 02:05:56.689
That's this beer.
2313
02:05:56.789 --> 02:06:02.479
It's literally and figuratively really, really good. I nightmare comes through, dude.
2314
02:06:02.560 --> 02:06:03.939
They're just they're just one of those breweries.
2315
02:06:03.960 --> 02:06:06.739
They just come through. So definitely take taking that one
2316
02:06:06.760 --> 02:06:09.140
to bed. How about you? Which one? Which one gets
2317
02:06:09.159 --> 02:06:10.779
to go home with with McShane?
2318
02:06:11.649 --> 02:06:14.149
One, as far as Nightmare goes, I love that it
2319
02:06:14.210 --> 02:06:15.710
was not a dark beer that you had.
2320
02:06:16.670 --> 02:06:17.170
Yeah, right?
2321
02:06:17.189 --> 02:06:20.529
Dark beers are epic. But you found a sour that
2322
02:06:20.569 --> 02:06:24.199
was fun. That's cool. I love that. And great brewer then.
2323
02:06:25.319 --> 02:06:25.619
Neither.
2324
02:06:27.380 --> 02:06:29.060
Oh. Oh, God.
2325
02:06:29.819 --> 02:06:32.140
Shane's going home solo.
2326
02:06:33.359 --> 02:06:35.939
I'm going to take my cell phone. I'm going to
2327
02:06:35.979 --> 02:06:40.020
whisper in my own ear, sweet nothings. And that's that.
2328
02:06:40.779 --> 02:06:42.100
Might have some water. Okay. I don't know.
2329
02:06:42.479 --> 02:06:42.739
All right.
2330
02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:49.600
Yeah, I... They were both good experiences. I don't like
2331
02:06:49.619 --> 02:06:53.689
the Porn Mortalis. For me, the problem is that it
2332
02:06:53.699 --> 02:06:58.649
was a Mortalis, and it just... It was weird on
2333
02:06:58.689 --> 02:06:59.609
a bad scale.
2334
02:07:01.130 --> 02:07:02.430
So I just.
2335
02:07:04.229 --> 02:07:06.789
It just didn't ever get to the point where it
2336
02:07:06.850 --> 02:07:07.449
was good.
2337
02:07:08.569 --> 02:07:08.750
The.
2338
02:07:12.500 --> 02:07:18.539
smoother dye. It was, it was good, but I don't
2339
02:07:18.579 --> 02:07:19.500
want to have it again.
2340
02:07:19.520 --> 02:07:21.420
Yeah.
2341
02:07:21.640 --> 02:07:24.180
It's like, whatever. So no, I don't, I don't, I
2342
02:07:24.220 --> 02:07:25.810
don't want to wake up the next morning with either
2343
02:07:25.819 --> 02:07:28.130
of these. So nah, I'm, I'm good.
2344
02:07:29.210 --> 02:07:31.090
No, I mean, sometimes that happens too.
2345
02:07:31.109 --> 02:07:31.789
That's okay.
2346
02:07:32.409 --> 02:07:32.569
Yeah.
2347
02:07:32.750 --> 02:07:33.569
Sometimes you strike out.
2348
02:07:34.850 --> 02:07:40.250
Thank you to everybody in chat. Susan, Lisa, Aaron from,
2349
02:07:40.350 --> 02:07:44.250
I had to say it pod. Duchess from Boomer Bunker,
2350
02:07:44.489 --> 02:07:47.149
thank you, all of you, for being here and putting
2351
02:07:47.189 --> 02:07:49.390
up with us tonight. And chat was absolute. You guys
2352
02:07:49.409 --> 02:07:51.229
were hilarious. And the artwork.
2353
02:07:51.529 --> 02:07:51.689
Oh.
2354
02:07:52.270 --> 02:07:52.909
Lisa.
2355
02:07:54.109 --> 02:07:54.689
Next level.
2356
02:07:55.430 --> 02:07:55.909
Next level.
2357
02:07:56.550 --> 02:08:00.579
Fucking brilliant. RazorWireNews.com. Go join the subs. you can get
2358
02:08:00.600 --> 02:08:03.520
in our chat and you can see what the debauchery
2359
02:08:03.539 --> 02:08:08.729
that's going on it's just absolutely I the video killed
2360
02:08:08.770 --> 02:08:12.590
me the video made my night it seriously did that
2361
02:08:12.789 --> 02:08:19.750
one broke me just absolutely perfect RazorWireNews.com is the website.
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02:08:19.869 --> 02:08:22.050
Go there. Check it out. Subscribe. Five bucks a month.
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02:08:22.069 --> 02:08:25.170
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02:08:25.189 --> 02:08:28.090
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02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:33.119
Shows that have no ads in it. And then obviously
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02:08:33.140 --> 02:08:37.119
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2367
02:08:37.239 --> 02:08:40.560
So do join us. We'd love to have you. I'm
2368
02:08:40.600 --> 02:08:41.159
Steve McShane.
2369
02:08:43.020 --> 02:08:43.579
I'm Fitz.
2370
02:08:44.699 --> 02:08:45.359
Think Critically.
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We'll talk to you soon.