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and enjoy today's episode, an original from
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story studio network. Hi'm Aaron Trafford
in Halifax, I'm Dave Crafford in Toronto,
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and this is now and next.
Well, eastern Canada bracing, to
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say the least, for Fiona.
As we speak, right now, it's
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turning up the Atlantic towards Nova Scotia
as a category four. I'm silent because
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I'm mentally running through the list of
things I have to do before tomorrow.
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Meantime, Donald Trump's week is also
about to get even worse. Hard to
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believe, and former Governor General Julie
Payette, says she was not invited to
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the queen's funeral. Seems she found
it necessary to point that out after the
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fact. Dave Trafford, with Aaron
Trafford Becky Coles as our producer. This
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is now in next for Thursday September
twenty second. So I saw your flurry
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of text messages yesterday and slack messages
to the team. You guys are basically
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into your prepare for the possibility,
I guess, of evacuating the premises.
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You guys are an eastern passage now. You're not dead on the track the
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way you were for Dorian, but
this is a much bigger storm. So
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we weren't dead on the track for
Dorian either. So the thing, I
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think. So there's so much I
just want to like say right now.
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So number one is that this is
obviously a natural disaster. So it's it's
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there are only predictions right now.
For anybody familiar with the landscape and Nova
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Scotia, it looks like the storm
is going to make landfall somewhere between Guysboro
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County and Cape Breton. So anybody
who understands the way that Nova Scotia kind
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of jets out into the ocean,
it's kind of going to hit like the
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top half of the province and then
move on and also wallop parts of Newfoundland.
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Now, the difference between this storm, Fiona and Dorian, and then
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the other one, which was nineteen
years ago, was hurricane one, which
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we didn't have the models that we
do now. That one hit as a
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category one and the eye of that
one came right across Nova Scotia. The
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difference between the category two, which
is what it's supposed to be when it
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hits Um, is that it's the
speed with which the storm actually moves.
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It's not the speed of the winds. So what's gonna Happen is it's gonna
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hit Nova Scotia, it's going to
Mesh with colder air that's over the land
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mass and then it's going to turn
into a tropical storm, which in many
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respects is more dangerous than a hurricane. The difference between a hurricane and a
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tropical storm is simply a hurricane is
a circle a tropical storm is like a
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blob. It's like a it's like
an a regular shaped blob of bad weather,
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of equally high winds. So,
to give you sense the way it's
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going to hit us, they say
there could gusts upwards of two hundred clicks
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an hour, which is enough to
blow down a house. There's your fearmongering
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for the day and here's my gripe. Here's my gripe. I turned on
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the CBC National Radio this morning while
I was getting ready for work, and
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didn't I hear a report from Vancouver
that said now is not the time to
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be complacent. So and so and
so reporting from Vancouver. I was like,
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what the hell, what the hell, they've got a reporter on the
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East Coast Storm and the reporters in
Vancouver. The National Hurricane Center report was
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fielded out of Vancouver. So I
know that we're right now like shooting all
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over bell media and CTV and all
this stuff, but I was like,
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Um, excuse me, you couldn't
have found the local reporter, Brett Ruskin,
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to drop into the National Radio Show? They don't even have hurricanes in
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British, Columbia, new they do
not. Yeah, so anyway, that's
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that's that's my week. So I
may not be here on Monday, just
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so you know. Well, you
know and I know the last time when
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when dorry and hit you, guys
had to leave the house was ordered.
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Or was that? We were on
the very, very dotted line of the
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evacuation zone and we chose to leave. Um, this one, I don't
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know. It could could go either
way. I think it's going to go
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just north of us. So,
given the way that it's going to make
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landfall, the eye of the storm
could be, you know, about a
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hundred clicks north of us, in
which case we're going to have really bad
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winds and really bad rain. Now
we live a hundred feet from the water,
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so flooding and swell is also going
to be the problem. So we
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may get stuck here. I don't
know. I mean really like we could.
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Just who knows what's going to happen. We're just tying everything down,
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I was saying. But to Becky, before we turn on the mics.
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Um, I'm doing things I've learned
over the years, like I'm running the
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Dishwasher, I'm doing all the laundry, we're going to get cash, we're
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checking on our neighbors. We have
a set up a new facebook neighbor's thread.
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Everybody has everybody's phone numbered. Like
you know, there's new people who
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have moved on to our street from
Ontario and I know how scary it is
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the first time a hurricane comes and
you've never been through it. So we're
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knocking on the doors. Are you
okay? Do you know how to prepare?
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All of those things are happening right
now, and I mean we're we're
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gonna have to see what happens.
What has been the sort of official government
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prost posture on this in terms of
advice? For you guys? It's always
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the same. It's always the same. So and that's that's somewhat comforting.
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It's you know, you need to
have seventy two hours. You need to
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be able to survive for seventy two
hours without power or assistance Um. So
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you know, that's where you get
into. Yes, it's nice to charge
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up your book and your kindle and
have something to read, but you really
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do need to think about you know, we have a dog and a cat.
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We need enough medicine and all of
those things. My husband's father is
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not well and he's on his own. So we have to go make sure
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that, like, if we can't
get to him, somebody can. So
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all of those things come into play
in terms of emergency preparedness. It's not
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just a matter of making sure you
have potato chips and, you know,
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red wine, which I do have. Well, of course, that's that's
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a right. Yeah, yeah,
it's funny. I don't know if you
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were aware of Becky, but down
the Nova Scotia they actually have storm chips.
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That that's part of that's part of
the supply package. Yeah, I
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was telling Pam Fuselli from parachute on
linkedin yesterday. I was like, Pam,
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that covered bridge that does a potato
chip company out of New Brunswick.
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It started out of a Hashtag from
one of our hurricanes. People were on
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twitter being like Oh, the storms
are come and better go get some chips,
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and then it turned into storm chips
and then within two months covered bridge
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was actually putting out a brand,
like a flavor of chip called storm chip.
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I love it. It's so good. Like what a way to,
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you know, try and lighten a
situation that normally would be quite scary,
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but to think, okay, yeah, let's let's lean into it. Yeah,
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let us be your your official stormchip. I love it. But you
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go, if you go to the
sobies right now, my my best guess
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is that you will see no bottled
water and no potato chips. Like the
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potato to biole will be empty right
now. You're you're going to be taken
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like, you know, just there's
like crappy pretzels left or something. So
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how many, how many bags of
storm chips would you need to keep you
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going for seventy two hours? Then
you're super it's super salty. Then you
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drink all your water. It's just
you don't yeah, it's but little things
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that we've learned to do, like
we back our vehicles up so that we
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can throw things in the trunk and
pull out of the driveway. Like there's
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just all these things that you learn. Excuse me, about Hurricane Prep Um.
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So I've cleared my day, with
the exception of, you know,
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a couple of meetings, because we
just kind of got to get things,
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move in and make sure that we're
we're good. Yeah, and and the
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other part of it is to get
particularly where you are, it's vulnerable to
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a number of things, whether it's
down trees that across some major arteries,
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but on your shore road it's like
artillery coming in from the ocean because those
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waves kick up some serious shrapnel.
Yeah, we live. We live in
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a part of the province that is
Glorious and beautiful. It's called eastern passage,
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but this the rip tide where we
live is so intense that you actually
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can't swim. You can, you
can wait, but you can't swim.
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And the it's even not safe for
things like paddle boards or boats at a
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certain extent. And the RIP tide, combined with Hurricane Force winds, actually
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can throw football sized rocks up onto
the road. So that becomes a hazard
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to I mean it's all just hazard. It's like I'm waiting for Dwayne the
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Rock Johnson to come film a movie
in eastern passage. His father's from here.
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A right, probably the most Canadian
thing I've ever said. His his
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father's from here. Well, yeah, it's sort of mundane to say stay
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safe, but Um, and I'm
assuming you've got if need be, you've
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got some path to higher ground.
Uh, yeah, we were. It's
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hard to say so at this point. If we were going to go west,
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we should be in the car already. Kind of driving to Quebec and
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staying in a hotel. I think
that's a little alarmist Um. Our best
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bet would probably to go southwest.
So maybe, maybe, we'll I don't
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even know, an attent why would
I sleep in attending hurricane? I don't
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know. I don't know what we'll
do. We'll see. Yeah, I
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also noted that path is going to
go right over probably hits Charlottetown pretty closely
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too. They're going to get really
bad rain. Yeah, well, and
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that's it. Like when you say
when this thing becomes a tropical depression,
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our tropical storm, it slows down, it becomes less organized. So you
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know, I'm seeing like a hundred
millimeters of rain or more in some areas.
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That's extraordinary amounts of rain. So
and sustained winds. Like Ontarians and
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the rest of the country doesn't really
understand this, sustained winds of a hundred
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kilometers an hour. A sustained wind
is when it maintains that speed for a
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minute or more. So that is
like having and it lasts for hours,
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versus a tornado that you guys got
the last minutes. This is like having
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a series of tornadoes over the course
of six seven hours. Yeah, well,
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at lunch yesterday we were recalling what
happened in in Ontario on the long
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weekend in May with the storms that
rolled through and there was a series of
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tornadoes and the damage in some cases
where they're still cleaning up. So yes,
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all right. Well, we will
obviously keep an ear, in an
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eye and on what's going on there, and you know well, I want
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you to update us with that's right. Well, you had mentioned that,
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you know, even considering the freat
being faced by the folks down east and
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the dangers of the storm, yesterday
politically turned into what is turning to an
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increasingly difficult time for the trump company, the trump brand, the trump family.
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Uh, letitia James as the Attorney
General in New York yesterday and announced
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a long list of fraud charges being
brought against the former president and his family.
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Why didn't I trump falsely inflated his
net worth by billions of dollars to
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unjustly enriched himself and to cheat this
system, thereby cheating all of us.
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He did this with the help of
the other defendants, to his children,
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Donald Trump Jr, Ivanka trump and
eric trump, and former trump organization,
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CFO Alan Weisselberg and trump organization controller
Jeffrey mcconney. Mr Trump and the trump
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organization repeatedly and persistently manipulated the value
of assets to induce banks to lend money
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to the trump organization a more favorable
terms than would otherwise have been available to
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the company to pay lower taxes.
The lawsuit actually is looking for two and
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fifty million dollars from trump at al
and that, apparently, is of course,
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only the beginning. One of the
interesting parts of the analysis, though,
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I heard yesterday it was that this
is a civil case, it's not
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a criminal court, so the burden
of proof, so to speak, the
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threshold is lower here. And also
what I found interesting was that trump and
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his team on a number of occasions
reached out to the attorney general to try
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to settle this before it moved on, and she refused. So she thinks
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she's got a pretty solid case against
the team, the trump family, the
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former president himself. Now it's not
as if he'd go to jail it found
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guilty, but at the same time
this is only kind of one of a
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number of things that are going on
again against the backdrop of an appeals court
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saying that. No, you know
what, the Ideo j Ken hang onto
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those, hang onto those top secret
documents that we need to make sure that
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they are investigating what went on,
because the fact matter is it's in the
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public interest to ensure top secret documents
that were found at Mar Lago are in
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fact properly stored. So he may
not win or lose any of these things.
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The initial reaction as well as kills
as presidency bid. My worry is,
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and we're gonna Talk to David Schultz
in a couple of days about this,
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but my worry is, Becky,
that this just lights a fuse and
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the tinder that's already ready to blow
up. Yeah, I don't think this
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kills his pet presidents, you run
at all, because you have the all
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that support him, that feel like
this is a witch hunt and that Um
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like this will just make them rise
up even more. Right. So,
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Willie win or not? I don't
know, but this certainly won't make him
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say, Oh, you know what, I don't need to run for president.
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Like you know, I think this
is just gonna it's gonna be even
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worse. Right. Yeah, well, it's funny how often I've been talking
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to David Schultz and he's been a
regular on certainly on the radio show over
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the years and has continued here on
the podcast. And David is a professor
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of Political Science at Hamlet University in
Minnesota and it was four years ago that
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I kind of asked him because we
started to see militia forming and all in
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the name of trump, and I
said to David, you know, I'm
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just kind of standing back here on
the side of the border watching, but
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is are these the beginnings of what
constitutes the ignition of a civil war?
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And it was really interesting to hear
his perspective. He said, well,
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probably not. A civil wars in
the days of Abraham Lincoln. He more
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equated it to the truck bles in
Ireland and since then I'm hearing more of
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that analysis and it's almost as if
it's going to be regionally done. It'll
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be like the Middle East and Ireland
where and Middle East still is in some
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respects. It's almost gonna be impossible, errand to contain well completely. So
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you think about what happened in Ireland, like Shin Fain and the Maga people,
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and there starts to be this very
blurred line between the political party and
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the guerrilla militia kind of activism,
and that is a hundred percent what,
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as an outsider who is pretty well
versed in politics, sees happening. I
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mean, I've heard other people say
that exact thing. And the thing about
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the troubles is that it it is
not, it is not a powder keg.
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It is a slow, long,
insidious burn that eats away at the
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fabric of two things, democracy and
culture, and when it's left to persist,
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you end up on the other side
of it thirty, forty years down
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the line and your country is unrecognizable. And I think that's what we're in
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the middle of. Like you say, four years ago, this started way
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before four years ago. This started
way back in, you know, arguably
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like twenty twelve ish, when he
kind of started to stick his nose into
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things. And the other thing that's
occurring to me is like, if they
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have found this much egregious fraud,
if she thinks she has this much evidence,
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that she can come at him.
You know, I'm like, how
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much white out did he have to
use on his bank statements? Just,
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like, what the heck? But
like, how many other rich ass quote
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unquote, Americans are they're out there
playing the same game doing the same thing,
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just not in the public eye.
Who are backing him? Because that's
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where I go. I'm like,
there's people underneath this. It's not just
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you know, have you seen Stephen
Colbert when he like eats this top eleven?
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He's like, it's not just the
trump fights, um, like in
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the family. There are other people
who are completely supporting this with moving money
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around. Yeah, there's no way
there's just five of them all in on
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this. There's way more people.
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other side of it is that when
you begin to talk about that culture,
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it's almost being used as a defense. Why are you picking on me?
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There are other people who do that. I mean that this this sort of
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moral relativism that kicks in as if
it's an excuse or or a defense.
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But you know, long term,
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what went on in Ireland is one
thing, but you're talking about quote
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unquote superpower against the backdrop yesterday of
all the news around Vladimir Putin saying he's
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going to call up three hundred thousand
reserves, Um, that we will do
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whatever we have to do to protect
Russian territory if it's threatened, and you
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know, the implication is nuclear weapons
are on the table. And then you
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have these separatist regions in Ukraine calling
for referendum to join Russia. So if
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all of a sudden you have that
vote over the next few days and they
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say overwhelmingly we want to join Russia
and the Ukrainians are fighting front lines on
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those regions that are now separatists,
does that become an invasion or an incursion
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in Russian territory? So the whole
mixes. And while the Americans are all
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their naval gazing as to whether or
not you know, a guy who clearly
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incited an insurrection on Capitol Hill should
be their next president, I mean look
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outwards people, there's there's so I
don't know if you saw the recent interview
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too with Biden where he kind of
fumbled a bit when asked if they would
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come to the aid of Taiwan if
China invaded Taiwan. That's a problem.
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This is a this is just it's
just. There's just a big problem.
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The whole thing is a problem.
They're fighting, like in their on domestic
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front and an international front. Historically, no president, no leader has ever
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survived that. Um We're in an
economic ship storm no president has ever survived
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that they're going to replace if,
if trump wins the bid and then if
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trump wins the election, yes,
things are gonna get bad, but they're
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just gonna get bad in a different
way. Right, like I know it
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was like this, but I mean, things are really bad right now,
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but we got a whole new bad
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about moral relativism. It's like,
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United States, here's what's happening.
Is that there's actually this tension between are
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the categorical imperative to Um protect democracy
and to protect personal freedom. The two
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of those things must always be in
a state of compromise. And to what
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we're talking about about the troubles,
about the slow, insidious burn that eats
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away at the political fabric and the
cultural fabric. That's why you're starting to
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see those threads unferral, because it's
very clear that there are now people who
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do not see those two things as
the ability to compromise those two things,
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and that is what you're seeing.
That the start of the fall of the
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culture of American democracy, wherein one
cannot exist with personal freedom. Even trump
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saying like why are you going after
me? Why are you going after everybody
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else? That's a clear indication that
he himself does not see democracy and justice
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coinciding with his personal freedom and choices. Well and yeah, and it's become
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clearly a binary choice, as it
has politically with, you know, if
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you're a democrat or you're a Republican. Um. It's funny. I talked
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to Professor Schultz about that particularly.
He said, you know, in back
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in the sixties and the seventies,
if you were going to get married and
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a white woman decided that she was
going to marry a black man or a
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Christian woman was going to marry a
Jewish man, that was enough to cause
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a rift in a family where people
wouldn't speak to each other. We have
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come way beyond that now in terms
of, you know, understanding that,
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you know, religions and race and
so on is not as much of an
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it's not an issue really, so
to speak. What is an issue and
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stops people from talking around the dinner
table is if you're a Republican and I'm
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a Democrat. That's how deeply ingrained
it is. They stopped talking to family.
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Okay, that's you know, and
it sounds small, but it gets
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to the point where that's the point
you're making and it's happening at kitchen tables,
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it's not just happening around the legislative
assemblies. I love that you put
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this in the the agenda today,
Becky, that the former governor general,
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Julie Payette, former astronaut, says, you know, she wasn't invited to
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the queen's funeral. I think it's
most remarkable that nobody really paid any attention
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to that until after the funeral,
when payette posted that notice on on her
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social media site. Yeah, I
thought it was funny she felt the need
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to point it out. I don't
think any of us sat there and went
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well, where is she? Why
isn't she there? I think we're all
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just, you know, okay,
yeah, that's fine. We were observing
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and however, we observe it and
nobody cared that she wasn't there except her.
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So she was like she had to
tell everyone. I wasn't being disrespectful,
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I was I wasn't invited to you
know. It's like, well,
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okay, oh right, you're here, are you? Yeah. Well,
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so two things struck me when they
when the Toronto Star reached out to her
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office and the answer was, you
know, she wouldn't say whether or not
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she was upset by not being invited. But Madam Payette, as always,
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prefers to remain reserved. According to
her executive Lisa boy AH, she takes
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example from Queen Elizabeth who perfect,
perfectly exemplified reserve and dignity throughout her life.
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That is not really the legacy that
I think most people are going to
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associate with Julie Payette in her role
as governor general, who she got fired.
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Remember? Yeah, yeah, what's
funny is I don't know what Queen
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Elizabeth the second was like to to
work for, but Um, I have
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a feeling that she was far more
pleasant to deal with than Julie Payette was.
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Just I'm guessing. Well, you
know the the idea that somehow you
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were she was modeling the Queen's behavior, and so that's what I'm just gonna
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sit on the sidelines in reserve.
Um. But here's the other remarkable thing.
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I don't remember reading or hearing any
media that said we reached out to
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former Governor General Julie Payette for a
comment just on what she thought on the
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Queen's passing and we couldn't reach her
or whatever. But it wasn't as if
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the media was knocking on her door
to get her reaction or response or remembrances
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of of Queen Elizabeth. That boy, talk about trying to shoehorn yourself into
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the conversation. She come out with
a book or something like? Is that
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like you know it's gonna go?
I'm still here, like, I don't
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know. I did want to leave. She wears the she wears the name
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badge. You've forgotten already. All
right. So here's the cool thing.
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Yesterday we were talking about this on
the daily brief. We're going to feature
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an interview I did with Um Barry
Shepley. Now, Barry Shepley is a
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longtime friend. He, he and
his partner Sheldon, coached me from zero
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to twenty six point two miles of
marathon. First one I did was back
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in nineteen something like that, and
they were awesome and and and helped me
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out. Barry goes on to become
a national triathlon coach, coaches Simon Whitfield
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to gold and he's written a book
about his adventures and the cool, you
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know, experiences he's had. Just
with the personalities. I mean he talks
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about, you know, some guys
in their late seventies who are setting world
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records in triathlon and they aren't Olympians, they're just, you know, average
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people who decide this is what they
want to call push. He talks about
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the young kids that, you know, he's kind of managed to give some
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somebody lends this kid a bike and
that changes his life. So it's Um,
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it's all about the kind of effect
that doing the least you can do
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has on other people. So I
talked to Barry about his book, but
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really about his origin story, because
at the time I met Barry, having
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a personal trainer was a really hip, durer thing and you had to be
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kind of rich to do it and
you know the thinking it. Well,
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if you're a personal trainer, you
must be, you know, making a
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lot of dough. Wasn't quite that
kind of origin story for Barry Sheldon and
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Karen. We were back by we
collectively had and we took a little tiny
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twelve by eighteen foot room on Lawrence
Avenue and Bathurst into on to they rented
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us one room and literally if a
client came, Karen and the other two
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people had to leave the room and
go for a coffee across the street because
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they were in. Sheldon was so
great. It was somebody would call the
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office, he would say just the
second, I'll see if he's in,
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and I'm literally sitting eight inches from
him. We're sharing a pencil in one
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computer and you'd make me wait for
like thirty seconds so that the other person
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would think, you know, I'm
very busy in another office. And and
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here we go. So Um,
we thought big from the beginning. We
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worked tirelessly. I mean fourteen,
sixt eighteen hours, no question when we
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got started, with personal best.
But we were so passionate about what we
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were doing and I think when you
have a passion for what you do,
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you don't look at the watch.
You don't realize at seven o'clock at night
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and now eight and now you're up
at five in the morning to put on
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a five k running race or or
whatever we did over those times. But
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we we loved each other's partners and
we're still together, sheldon and I and
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Karen, you know, are well
into the thirty plus years of being together.
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And, uh, the greatest thing
that ever happened in my life was
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going to McMaster university. Meeting Sheldon, meeting Karen, getting the knowledge that
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we needed academically and then setting off
into the world to try to make a
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difference into all kinds of people's lives, and you were one of those.
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You know, helping you with your
marathon, and we've helped people swim across
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Lake Ontario, right across Canada,
make Olympic teams, uh. You know,
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worked with athletes and wheelchairs. It's
been spectacular. I think we looked
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the other day. We're around twenty
plus Olympic athletes. We've now helped go
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to one of the Olympic Games.
You know, in my case I got
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famous because of this young kid,
Simon Whitfield, having his Sydney Olympic moment
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in gold. But you know,
we've worked with the JOE SCHNARDS and figure
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skating and all kinds of interesting people
that we've come along the way. But
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probably more of our joy happens with
average geezers like you that you say.
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You know, I remember you and
I are running our half marathon in Peterborough
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and the Rand Bay in Hamilton's together. I mean those are memories that never
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go away. Yeah, and you
know what did that? That kind of
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created a culture of accomplishment for my
kids and I hadn't expected that. I
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mean because I remember running the marathon
in in Ottawa, the second time I
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ran it, and my son at
the time, he was only maybe seven
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or eight years old, uh he
he, ran and walked the three K
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for the kids, and Aaron was
my support team because I got cool that
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day. So she had her bike
and she needed to deliver me my jacket.
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So she wrote rode the course to
support dad. But it's so there's
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so much more in this book,
by the way, called chasing greatness,
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than it is about, you know, the tough miles on the road and
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all the hard work in the gym. You know, at what point did
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you think that you had kind of
peaked, because I know when you became
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the national coach for the triathlon program
here in Canada, it wasn't as much
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as that you were appointed to it, it was it was well, you
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were, you would almost been the
force behind creating it. Yeah, I
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mean there's a lot of those things
where you know if you came along today,
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there'd be thirty smarter, better looking, brighter, you know, dudes
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to take that job. I just
had one major attribute my enthusiasm and you
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know, there's a story in the
book. For example, it's uh,
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there's a very we're in the Olympic
Games. We have no funds. Sydney
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is going to be the debut.
We have no funds to get started.
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Uh and my wife in Sheldon pay
the bills for a year where I go
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out to Victoria. I had to
get all my Olympic qualification paperwork done,
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so we moved out to Victoria just
me. Karen stays in Ontario. I'm
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living in residence with seventeen year old
kids. Uh, and I start a
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national team program with no money.
I literally found I went to a thousand
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houses and found some people who had
taken an athlete for seven or eight months
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into their house and those athletes eventually, you know, moved into those places
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for free. We borrowed pool time
from the University of Victoria. We found
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other coaches and massage therapists who donate
an hour or two here there, and
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that became literally our our ongoing program. And so you realize that if you're
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motivated enough, something is going to
come through and we got lucky. Some
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parents came through to donate the houses
and beds and other coaches donated some hours
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of pool time and that's how we
got that program off the ground. But
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a lot of this stuff really comes
down to, you know, I'm going
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to make it happen, stick to
it, nous and so forth, and
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that was one of the key things
that that came through for us. Yeah,
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it's a great origin story, Um, you know. And we are
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all in the midst of really being
in the startup business ourselves. And Uh,
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and you know, when I was
at C I U T, it
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was a startup erand you were a
start up at the Moose, effectively,
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I mean, you know, it
wasn't quite you know, it was corporate,
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but still it was a brand new
adventure and a new station. And
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I was at the rounds too.
I've been a tech startup as well,
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and shout out to them. They
just got a wow, well done.
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Yeah, that's a long time.
Probably we should probably have them on the
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show because they're doing some cool stuff, really cool stuff in terms of doctors
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healthcare. It's really cool. Yeah, and and it's again one of those
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overnight successes. It only took about
ten years, you know. Yeah,
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but that's the that's the way of
it. So the whole story that that
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Barry tells about this. I just
think is is so informative in terms of
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the character and quality. Probably have
a lot of people you know in your
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life and it might be a teacher, it could be just somebody who's volunteering
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and and doing that stuff. I
mean he he invented the role of the
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national trathlon coach and, you know, pushed himself to go get in there
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and do it, go out to
Victoria, live out there so he could
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get trained and certified to be an
Olympic. I mean just wow. Right.
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So it's there's some great inspiration just
in Barry's story but also in the
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book. So normally we would uh
feature the full interview on our supercast feed
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now, when next, dot supercast
dot com, behind a paywall, but
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in this case I think, you
know what, we're going to drop it
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into the into the feed entirely,
just separately today, the whole piece right
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here on now and next and give
it a good listen and, you know
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what, do the right thing.
Go out by by Barry's book. It's
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and spread it around, share it
with the kids, because some really great
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sort of I guess character building is
probably the best way to talk about it
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and he is such an example.
I said, you know, here's the
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guy who was Um on the assembly
line at GM and Windsor Watches the Olympics.
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I want to do that, and
he did it. And it's not
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that it was easy, it was
hard work right. So Um, yeah,
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and I'm coming to you from a
beautiful downtown Richmond Hill today, not
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really our Toronto Studios, but I
had the chance yesterday and today we're working
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with Tim Hoodack's team at Aria,
the on Teria Real Estate Association, and
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I didn't realize this, but I
guess all of the real estate boards have
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volunteer presidents. So they've tim and
his team at the executive office decided that.
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You know, if you're the new
president of the Real Estate Board,
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and Timmins, chances are you had
your hands full raising your kids and just
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getting your business going. But now
in that role you're kind of having to
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answer for a whole bunch of things
in terms of the real estate market,
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the way the board is being handled. What you know? What is what
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is this buy and sell stuff going? And let's face it, that's the
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most important buying decision will ever make
in our lives. Buying a house,
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but they have to deal with guys
like me picking up the phone and saying,
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okay, Becky, what's wrong?
I don't understand why the market is
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so soft here in timins, because
what, what are you guys not doing?
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And they're a little on the back
of their heels because, you know,
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we can think that we're being gentle, but sometimes people get, you
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know, deer in the headlights sort
of thing. And when, sometimes,
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when you do a follow up question
because they didn't actually answer the question,
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and then they go I already used
my answer. You now what? I
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already used my answer. I love
that. It's like a grade three kid
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at the spelling be I already spelled
that word. Um, you mean you
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didn't qualify that? Guys like me. You mean media. You're doing media
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training. You're making sure that they
don't deer in the headlines on the world.
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But but here's what we do want
to tell them, and I'm working
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with Sean Mallen, and many of
you will know Sean from his days at
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Global News and we worked together there. Um, but Sean's good advice is
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don't try not to answer the question. Answer the question and if you don't
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know, you don't know. Anyway, we're doing media training. Yesterday we
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did all presentation training with them and
it's a what Tim Hoodak showed up afterwards
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and we were chatting and he says, so how to go? I said
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it was great. But the number
of people who stood up in introductions on
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morning one and said, Oh God, I hate public speaking, I'm not
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really very good at it. I
just I just freeze, I'm not going
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to do this, it's gonna be
terrible to a person. They were probably
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in the top third of the presentations
that were given yesterday. They had to
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write their own speech about anything and
they were awesome. And the one that
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really stood up for me was a
woman, Sarah, is the executive officer
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in Niagara at the Niagara Board,
and she just got the job. She
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was really wanting to do the job
and realized, oh my I have to
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speak at the A G M now
because I'm the executive officer, and so
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her speech was all about being really
awkward at public speaking and and she acknowledged
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that. Now that was my awkward
introduction to my speech and I said,
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you know, what a great way
of owning this right. I mean,
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and I said to her afterwards I
wasn't awkward on your behalf anymore. I
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was with you. Okay, I
get it, like we put that behind
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us and she was so you know, I hate to use the word authentic,
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but smart in terms of how she
approached it. So it's been a
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real eye opener for me where you
do not have to be the no ums
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and Os kind of guy and make
sure you're snappy and colorful and energetic all
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the time, that you can get
your message through by, you know,
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like we say, like to say, make eye contact, and she did
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such a great job in an unconventional
way of doing that I thought, Oh,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna use that and
teach other people how to do it,
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because it was really a good learning
for me. Yeah, it's like
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podcasting. People say that too,
like Oh, I have to sound like
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I'm on the radio. No,
you don't know, you don't. It's
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actually it's a level of self awareness, is what you're actually describing. It's
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getting comfortable enough, being self aware
enough to present yourself in that light and
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it creates this crazy good empathetic connection
with the people either on the other side
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of the Um, you know,
the speaker, or in the room.
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I love when people say I'm not, I wouldn't be get into podcasts,
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like hosting one, and I go
really, because you can talk about that
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subject for hours on end. So
let's just move on. Microphone in front
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of you. Yeah, what you're
saying. Yeah, now you have a
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podcast. It's not. It's not
this big thing that people put in their
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heads. Yeah, well, it's. It's I always found that there were
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times, and you guys have seen
this happen, where, you know,
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you bring somebody in to the newsroom
or to do a show or to do
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an audition for a show, and
they're just talking like a normal human being
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and then the microphone comes up.
We're gonna talk about or for women,
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can we talk about this also after
Fiona has blown through. But the whole
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thing for women is that then their
voices come right up in the top of
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their net. Yeah, I also
love people say to me, Oh,
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you're on the radio, what's your
radio voice like? But you can we
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breathe. I breathe differently when I'm
reading a newscast than when I'm actually speaking
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in real life, but I don't
actually like hypermodulate my voice unless I'm like
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trying to sound like a Disney character
now well, and the more you try,
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the harder the harder it is to
crack that habit. It's it's counterintuitive.
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But so anyway, today we're going
to do the do the media training
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and but I thought they would shout
out to the folks at Oria and the
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newly appointed boards of the the real
estate boards right across the right across the
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province and the good work. So
we will be back at it again tomorrow,
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not with now and next because well, one of us is going to
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be hunkered down and maybe batting down
the hatches and batting down the Battons,
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as bugs bunny would say. Um, but we'll be. We'll be keeping
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an eye on what's going on there
tomorrow. Uh, in the feed,
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not necessarily this one, but we'll
be busy on alleged team will be back
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at it and well, we might
get into the conversation around affordable housing and
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see where we have been this week
with the folks at Queen's Park and how
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well that whole thing is played out. Around Day off, no day off
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morning for the Queen. That's on
the Ledge tomorrow for Story Studio Network.
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story studio network. Hi'm Aaron Trafford
in Halifax, I'm Dave Crafford in Toronto,
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and this is now and next.
Well, eastern Canada bracing, to
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say the least, for Fiona.
As we speak, right now, it's
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turning up the Atlantic towards Nova Scotia
as a category four. I'm silent because
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I'm mentally running through the list of
things I have to do before tomorrow.
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Meantime, Donald Trump's week is also
about to get even worse. Hard to
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believe, and former Governor General Julie
Payette, says she was not invited to
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the queen's funeral. Seems she found
it necessary to point that out after the
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fact. Dave Trafford, with Aaron
Trafford Becky Coles as our producer. This
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is now in next for Thursday September
twenty second. So I saw your flurry
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of text messages yesterday and slack messages
to the team. You guys are basically
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into your prepare for the possibility,
I guess, of evacuating the premises.
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You guys are an eastern passage now. You're not dead on the track the
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way you were for Dorian, but
this is a much bigger storm. So
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we weren't dead on the track for
Dorian either. So the thing, I
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think. So there's so much I
just want to like say right now.
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So number one is that this is
obviously a natural disaster. So it's it's
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there are only predictions right now.
For anybody familiar with the landscape and Nova
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Scotia, it looks like the storm
is going to make landfall somewhere between Guysboro
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County and Cape Breton. So anybody
who understands the way that Nova Scotia kind
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of jets out into the ocean,
it's kind of going to hit like the
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top half of the province and then
move on and also wallop parts of Newfoundland.
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Now, the difference between this storm, Fiona and Dorian, and then
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the other one, which was nineteen
years ago, was hurricane one, which
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we didn't have the models that we
do now. That one hit as a
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category one and the eye of that
one came right across Nova Scotia. The
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difference between the category two, which
is what it's supposed to be when it
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hits Um, is that it's the
speed with which the storm actually moves.
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It's not the speed of the winds. So what's gonna Happen is it's gonna
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hit Nova Scotia, it's going to
Mesh with colder air that's over the land
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mass and then it's going to turn
into a tropical storm, which in many
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respects is more dangerous than a hurricane. The difference between a hurricane and a
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tropical storm is simply a hurricane is
a circle a tropical storm is like a
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blob. It's like a it's like
an a regular shaped blob of bad weather,
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of equally high winds. So,
to give you sense the way it's
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going to hit us, they say
there could gusts upwards of two hundred clicks
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an hour, which is enough to
blow down a house. There's your fearmongering
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for the day and here's my gripe. Here's my gripe. I turned on
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the CBC National Radio this morning while
I was getting ready for work, and
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didn't I hear a report from Vancouver
that said now is not the time to
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be complacent. So and so and
so reporting from Vancouver. I was like,
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what the hell, what the hell, they've got a reporter on the
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East Coast Storm and the reporters in
Vancouver. The National Hurricane Center report was
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fielded out of Vancouver. So I
know that we're right now like shooting all
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over bell media and CTV and all
this stuff, but I was like,
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Um, excuse me, you couldn't
have found the local reporter, Brett Ruskin,
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to drop into the National Radio Show? They don't even have hurricanes in
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British, Columbia, new they do
not. Yeah, so anyway, that's
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that's that's my week. So I
may not be here on Monday, just
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so you know. Well, you
know and I know the last time when
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when dorry and hit you, guys
had to leave the house was ordered.
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Or was that? We were on
the very, very dotted line of the
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evacuation zone and we chose to leave. Um, this one, I don't
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know. It could could go either
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just north of us. So,
given the way that it's going to make
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landfall, the eye of the storm
could be, you know, about a
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hundred clicks north of us, in
which case we're going to have really bad
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winds and really bad rain. Now
we live a hundred feet from the water,
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so flooding and swell is also going
to be the problem. So we
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I was saying. But to Becky, before we turn on the mics.
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Um, I'm doing things I've learned
over the years, like I'm running the
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checking on our neighbors. We have
a set up a new facebook neighbor's thread.
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Everybody has everybody's phone numbered. Like
you know, there's new people who
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have moved on to our street from
Ontario and I know how scary it is
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the first time a hurricane comes and
you've never been through it. So we're
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knocking on the doors. Are you
okay? Do you know how to prepare?
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All of those things are happening right
now, and I mean we're we're
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gonna have to see what happens.
What has been the sort of official government
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prost posture on this in terms of
advice? For you guys? It's always
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the same. It's always the same. So and that's that's somewhat comforting.
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It's you know, you need to
have seventy two hours. You need to
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be able to survive for seventy two
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you know, that's where you get
into. Yes, it's nice to charge
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up your book and your kindle and
have something to read, but you really
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do need to think about you know, we have a dog and a cat.
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We need enough medicine and all of
those things. My husband's father is
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not well and he's on his own. So we have to go make sure
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that, like, if we can't
get to him, somebody can. So
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all of those things come into play
in terms of emergency preparedness. It's not
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just a matter of making sure you
have potato chips and, you know,
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red wine, which I do have. Well, of course, that's that's
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a right. Yeah, yeah,
it's funny. I don't know if you
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were aware of Becky, but down
the Nova Scotia they actually have storm chips.
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That that's part of that's part of
the supply package. Yeah, I
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was telling Pam Fuselli from parachute on
linkedin yesterday. I was like, Pam,
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that covered bridge that does a potato
chip company out of New Brunswick.
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It started out of a Hashtag from
one of our hurricanes. People were on
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twitter being like Oh, the storms
are come and better go get some chips,
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and then it turned into storm chips
and then within two months covered bridge
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was actually putting out a brand,
like a flavor of chip called storm chip.
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I love it. It's so good. Like what a way to,
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you know, try and lighten a
situation that normally would be quite scary,
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but to think, okay, yeah, let's let's lean into it. Yeah,
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let us be your your official stormchip. I love it. But you
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go, if you go to the
sobies right now, my my best guess
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is that you will see no bottled
water and no potato chips. Like the
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potato to biole will be empty right
now. You're you're going to be taken
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like, you know, just there's
like crappy pretzels left or something. So
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how many, how many bags of
storm chips would you need to keep you
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going for seventy two hours? Then
you're super it's super salty. Then you
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drink all your water. It's just
you don't yeah, it's but little things
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that we've learned to do, like
we back our vehicles up so that we
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can throw things in the trunk and
pull out of the driveway. Like there's
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just all these things that you learn. Excuse me, about Hurricane Prep Um.
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So I've cleared my day, with
the exception of, you know,
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a couple of meetings, because we
just kind of got to get things,
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move in and make sure that we're
we're good. Yeah, and and the
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other part of it is to get
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a number of things, whether it's
down trees that across some major arteries,
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but on your shore road it's like
artillery coming in from the ocean because those
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waves kick up some serious shrapnel.
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a part of the province that is
Glorious and beautiful. It's called eastern passage,
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but this the rip tide where we
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can't swim. You can, you
can wait, but you can't swim.
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certain extent. And the RIP tide, combined with Hurricane Force winds, actually
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can throw football sized rocks up onto
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to I mean it's all just hazard. It's like I'm waiting for Dwayne the
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Rock Johnson to come film a movie
in eastern passage. His father's from here.
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A right, probably the most Canadian
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father's from here. Well, yeah, it's sort of mundane to say stay
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safe, but Um, and I'm
assuming you've got if need be, you've
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got some path to higher ground.
Uh, yeah, we were. It's
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hard to say so at this point. If we were going to go west,
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we should be in the car already. Kind of driving to Quebec and
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staying in a hotel. I think
that's a little alarmist Um. Our best
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bet would probably to go southwest.
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even know, an attent why would
I sleep in attending hurricane? I don't
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know. I don't know what we'll
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also noted that path is going to
go right over probably hits Charlottetown pretty closely
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too. They're going to get really
bad rain. Yeah, well, and
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that's it. Like when you say
when this thing becomes a tropical depression,
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our tropical storm, it slows down, it becomes less organized. So you
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know, I'm seeing like a hundred
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That's extraordinary amounts of rain. So
and sustained winds. Like Ontarians and
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the rest of the country doesn't really
understand this, sustained winds of a hundred
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kilometers an hour. A sustained wind
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minute or more. So that is
like having and it lasts for hours,
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versus a tornado that you guys got
the last minutes. This is like having
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a series of tornadoes over the course
of six seven hours. Yeah, well,
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at lunch yesterday we were recalling what
happened in in Ontario on the long
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weekend in May with the storms that
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tornadoes and the damage in some cases
where they're still cleaning up. So yes,
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all right. Well, we will
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eye and on what's going on there, and you know well, I want
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you to update us with that's right. Well, you had mentioned that,
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you know, even considering the freat
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the dangers of the storm, yesterday
politically turned into what is turning to an
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increasingly difficult time for the trump company, the trump brand, the trump family.
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Uh, letitia James as the Attorney
General in New York yesterday and announced
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a long list of fraud charges being
brought against the former president and his family.
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Why didn't I trump falsely inflated his
net worth by billions of dollars to
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unjustly enriched himself and to cheat this
system, thereby cheating all of us.
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He did this with the help of
the other defendants, to his children,
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Donald Trump Jr, Ivanka trump and
eric trump, and former trump organization,
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CFO Alan Weisselberg and trump organization controller
Jeffrey mcconney. Mr Trump and the trump
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organization repeatedly and persistently manipulated the value
of assets to induce banks to lend money
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to the trump organization a more favorable
terms than would otherwise have been available to
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the company to pay lower taxes.
The lawsuit actually is looking for two and
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fifty million dollars from trump at al
and that, apparently, is of course,
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only the beginning. One of the
interesting parts of the analysis, though,
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I heard yesterday it was that this
is a civil case, it's not
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a criminal court, so the burden
of proof, so to speak, the
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threshold is lower here. And also
what I found interesting was that trump and
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his team on a number of occasions
reached out to the attorney general to try
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to settle this before it moved on, and she refused. So she thinks
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she's got a pretty solid case against
the team, the trump family, the
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former president himself. Now it's not
as if he'd go to jail it found
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guilty, but at the same time
this is only kind of one of a
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number of things that are going on
again against the backdrop of an appeals court
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saying that. No, you know
what, the Ideo j Ken hang onto
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those, hang onto those top secret
documents that we need to make sure that
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they are investigating what went on,
because the fact matter is it's in the
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public interest to ensure top secret documents
that were found at Mar Lago are in
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fact properly stored. So he may
not win or lose any of these things.
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The initial reaction as well as kills
as presidency bid. My worry is,
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and we're gonna Talk to David Schultz
in a couple of days about this,
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but my worry is, Becky,
that this just lights a fuse and
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the tinder that's already ready to blow
up. Yeah, I don't think this
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kills his pet presidents, you run
at all, because you have the all
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that support him, that feel like
this is a witch hunt and that Um
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like this will just make them rise
up even more. Right. So,
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Willie win or not? I don't
know, but this certainly won't make him
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say, Oh, you know what, I don't need to run for president.
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worse. Right. Yeah, well, it's funny how often I've been talking
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to David Schultz and he's been a
regular on certainly on the radio show over
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the years and has continued here on
the podcast. And David is a professor
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of Political Science at Hamlet University in
Minnesota and it was four years ago that
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I kind of asked him because we
started to see militia forming and all in
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the name of trump, and I
said to David, you know, I'm
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just kind of standing back here on
the side of the border watching, but
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is are these the beginnings of what
constitutes the ignition of a civil war?
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And it was really interesting to hear
his perspective. He said, well,
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probably not. A civil wars in
the days of Abraham Lincoln. He more
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equated it to the truck bles in
Ireland and since then I'm hearing more of
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that analysis and it's almost as if
it's going to be regionally done. It'll
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be like the Middle East and Ireland
where and Middle East still is in some
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respects. It's almost gonna be impossible, errand to contain well completely. So
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you think about what happened in Ireland, like Shin Fain and the Maga people,
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and there starts to be this very
blurred line between the political party and
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the guerrilla militia kind of activism,
and that is a hundred percent what,
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as an outsider who is pretty well
versed in politics, sees happening. I
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mean, I've heard other people say
that exact thing. And the thing about
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the troubles is that it it is
not, it is not a powder keg.
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It is a slow, long,
insidious burn that eats away at the
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fabric of two things, democracy and
culture, and when it's left to persist,
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you end up on the other side
of it thirty, forty years down
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the line and your country is unrecognizable. And I think that's what we're in
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the middle of. Like you say, four years ago, this started way
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before four years ago. This started
way back in, you know, arguably
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like twenty twelve ish, when he
kind of started to stick his nose into
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things. And the other thing that's
occurring to me is like, if they
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have found this much egregious fraud,
if she thinks she has this much evidence,
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that she can come at him.
You know, I'm like, how
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much white out did he have to
use on his bank statements? Just,
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like, what the heck? But
like, how many other rich ass quote
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unquote, Americans are they're out there
playing the same game doing the same thing,
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just not in the public eye.
Who are backing him? Because that's
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where I go. I'm like,
there's people underneath this. It's not just
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you know, have you seen Stephen
Colbert when he like eats this top eleven?
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He's like, it's not just the
trump fights, um, like in
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the family. There are other people
who are completely supporting this with moving money
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around. Yeah, there's no way
there's just five of them all in on
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this. There's way more people.
Yeah, yeah, well, and the
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other side of it is that when
you begin to talk about that culture,
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it's almost being used as a defense. Why are you picking on me?
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There are other people who do that. I mean that this this sort of
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moral relativism that kicks in as if
it's an excuse or or a defense.
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But you know, long term,
Um, you look at this and okay,
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what went on in Ireland is one
thing, but you're talking about quote
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unquote superpower against the backdrop yesterday of
all the news around Vladimir Putin saying he's
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going to call up three hundred thousand
reserves, Um, that we will do
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whatever we have to do to protect
Russian territory if it's threatened, and you
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know, the implication is nuclear weapons
are on the table. And then you
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have these separatist regions in Ukraine calling
for referendum to join Russia. So if
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all of a sudden you have that
vote over the next few days and they
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say overwhelmingly we want to join Russia
and the Ukrainians are fighting front lines on
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those regions that are now separatists,
does that become an invasion or an incursion
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in Russian territory? So the whole
mixes. And while the Americans are all
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their naval gazing as to whether or
not you know, a guy who clearly
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incited an insurrection on Capitol Hill should
be their next president, I mean look
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outwards people, there's there's so I
don't know if you saw the recent interview
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too with Biden where he kind of
fumbled a bit when asked if they would
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come to the aid of Taiwan if
China invaded Taiwan. That's a problem.
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This is a this is just it's
just. There's just a big problem.
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The whole thing is a problem.
They're fighting, like in their on domestic
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front and an international front. Historically, no president, no leader has ever
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survived that. Um We're in an
economic ship storm no president has ever survived
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that they're going to replace if,
if trump wins the bid and then if
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trump wins the election, yes,
things are gonna get bad, but they're
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just gonna get bad in a different
way. Right, like I know it
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was like this, but I mean, things are really bad right now,
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but we got a whole new bad
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about moral relativism. It's like,
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United States, here's what's happening.
Is that there's actually this tension between are
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the categorical imperative to Um protect democracy
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of those things must always be in
a state of compromise. And to what
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we're talking about about the troubles,
about the slow, insidious burn that eats
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away at the political fabric and the
cultural fabric. That's why you're starting to
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see those threads unferral, because it's
very clear that there are now people who
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do not see those two things as
the ability to compromise those two things,
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and that is what you're seeing.
That the start of the fall of the
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culture of American democracy, wherein one
cannot exist with personal freedom. Even trump
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saying like why are you going after
me? Why are you going after everybody
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else? That's a clear indication that
he himself does not see democracy and justice
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coinciding with his personal freedom and choices. Well and yeah, and it's become
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clearly a binary choice, as it
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you're a democrat or you're a Republican. Um. It's funny. I talked
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to Professor Schultz about that particularly.
He said, you know, in back
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in the sixties and the seventies,
if you were going to get married and
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a white woman decided that she was
going to marry a black man or a
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Christian woman was going to marry a
Jewish man, that was enough to cause
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a rift in a family where people
wouldn't speak to each other. We have
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come way beyond that now in terms
of, you know, understanding that,
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you know, religions and race and
so on is not as much of an
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it's not an issue really, so
to speak. What is an issue and
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stops people from talking around the dinner
table is if you're a Republican and I'm
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a Democrat. That's how deeply ingrained
it is. They stopped talking to family.
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Okay, that's you know, and
it sounds small, but it gets
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to the point where that's the point
you're making and it's happening at kitchen tables,
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it's not just happening around the legislative
assemblies. I love that you put
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this in the the agenda today,
Becky, that the former governor general,
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Julie Payette, former astronaut, says, you know, she wasn't invited to
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the queen's funeral. I think it's
most remarkable that nobody really paid any attention
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to that until after the funeral,
when payette posted that notice on on her
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social media site. Yeah, I
thought it was funny she felt the need
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to point it out. I don't
think any of us sat there and went
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well, where is she? Why
isn't she there? I think we're all
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just, you know, okay,
yeah, that's fine. We were observing
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and however, we observe it and
nobody cared that she wasn't there except her.
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So she was like she had to
tell everyone. I wasn't being disrespectful,
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I was I wasn't invited to you
know. It's like, well,
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okay, oh right, you're here, are you? Yeah. Well,
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so two things struck me when they
when the Toronto Star reached out to her
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office and the answer was, you
know, she wouldn't say whether or not
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she was upset by not being invited. But Madam Payette, as always,
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prefers to remain reserved. According to
her executive Lisa boy AH, she takes
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example from Queen Elizabeth who perfect,
perfectly exemplified reserve and dignity throughout her life.
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That is not really the legacy that
I think most people are going to
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associate with Julie Payette in her role
as governor general, who she got fired.
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Remember? Yeah, yeah, what's
funny is I don't know what Queen
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Elizabeth the second was like to to
work for, but Um, I have
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a feeling that she was far more
pleasant to deal with than Julie Payette was.
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Just I'm guessing. Well, you
know the the idea that somehow you
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were she was modeling the Queen's behavior, and so that's what I'm just gonna
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sit on the sidelines in reserve.
Um. But here's the other remarkable thing.
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I don't remember reading or hearing any
media that said we reached out to
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former Governor General Julie Payette for a
comment just on what she thought on the
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Queen's passing and we couldn't reach her
or whatever. But it wasn't as if
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the media was knocking on her door
to get her reaction or response or remembrances
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of of Queen Elizabeth. That boy, talk about trying to shoehorn yourself into
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the conversation. She come out with
a book or something like? Is that
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like you know it's gonna go?
I'm still here, like, I don't
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know. I did want to leave. She wears the she wears the name
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badge. You've forgotten already. All
right. So here's the cool thing.
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Yesterday we were talking about this on
the daily brief. We're going to feature
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an interview I did with Um Barry
Shepley. Now, Barry Shepley is a
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longtime friend. He, he and
his partner Sheldon, coached me from zero
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to twenty six point two miles of
marathon. First one I did was back
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in nineteen something like that, and
they were awesome and and and helped me
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out. Barry goes on to become
a national triathlon coach, coaches Simon Whitfield
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to gold and he's written a book
about his adventures and the cool, you
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know, experiences he's had. Just
with the personalities. I mean he talks
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about, you know, some guys
in their late seventies who are setting world
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records in triathlon and they aren't Olympians, they're just, you know, average
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people who decide this is what they
want to call push. He talks about
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the young kids that, you know, he's kind of managed to give some
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somebody lends this kid a bike and
that changes his life. So it's Um,
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it's all about the kind of effect
that doing the least you can do
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has on other people. So I
talked to Barry about his book, but
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really about his origin story, because
at the time I met Barry, having
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a personal trainer was a really hip, durer thing and you had to be
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kind of rich to do it and
you know the thinking it. Well,
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if you're a personal trainer, you
must be, you know, making a
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lot of dough. Wasn't quite that
kind of origin story for Barry Sheldon and
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Karen. We were back by we
collectively had and we took a little tiny
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twelve by eighteen foot room on Lawrence
Avenue and Bathurst into on to they rented
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us one room and literally if a
client came, Karen and the other two
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people had to leave the room and
go for a coffee across the street because
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they were in. Sheldon was so
great. It was somebody would call the
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office, he would say just the
second, I'll see if he's in,
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and I'm literally sitting eight inches from
him. We're sharing a pencil in one
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computer and you'd make me wait for
like thirty seconds so that the other person
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would think, you know, I'm
very busy in another office. And and
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here we go. So Um,
we thought big from the beginning. We
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worked tirelessly. I mean fourteen,
sixt eighteen hours, no question when we
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got started, with personal best.
But we were so passionate about what we
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were doing and I think when you
have a passion for what you do,
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you don't look at the watch.
You don't realize at seven o'clock at night
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and now eight and now you're up
at five in the morning to put on
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a five k running race or or
whatever we did over those times. But
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we we loved each other's partners and
we're still together, sheldon and I and
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Karen, you know, are well
into the thirty plus years of being together.
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And, uh, the greatest thing
that ever happened in my life was
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going to McMaster university. Meeting Sheldon, meeting Karen, getting the knowledge that
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we needed academically and then setting off
into the world to try to make a
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difference into all kinds of people's lives, and you were one of those.
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You know, helping you with your
marathon, and we've helped people swim across
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Lake Ontario, right across Canada,
make Olympic teams, uh. You know,
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worked with athletes and wheelchairs. It's
been spectacular. I think we looked
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the other day. We're around twenty
plus Olympic athletes. We've now helped go
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to one of the Olympic Games.
You know, in my case I got
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famous because of this young kid,
Simon Whitfield, having his Sydney Olympic moment
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in gold. But you know,
we've worked with the JOE SCHNARDS and figure
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skating and all kinds of interesting people
that we've come along the way. But
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probably more of our joy happens with
average geezers like you that you say.
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You know, I remember you and
I are running our half marathon in Peterborough
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and the Rand Bay in Hamilton's together. I mean those are memories that never
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go away. Yeah, and you
know what did that? That kind of
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created a culture of accomplishment for my
kids and I hadn't expected that. I
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mean because I remember running the marathon
in in Ottawa, the second time I
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ran it, and my son at
the time, he was only maybe seven
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or eight years old, uh he
he, ran and walked the three K
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for the kids, and Aaron was
my support team because I got cool that
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day. So she had her bike
and she needed to deliver me my jacket.
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So she wrote rode the course to
support dad. But it's so there's
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so much more in this book,
by the way, called chasing greatness,
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than it is about, you know, the tough miles on the road and
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all the hard work in the gym. You know, at what point did
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you think that you had kind of
peaked, because I know when you became
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the national coach for the triathlon program
here in Canada, it wasn't as much
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as that you were appointed to it, it was it was well, you
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were, you would almost been the
force behind creating it. Yeah, I
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mean there's a lot of those things
where you know if you came along today,
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there'd be thirty smarter, better looking, brighter, you know, dudes
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to take that job. I just
had one major attribute my enthusiasm and you
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know, there's a story in the
book. For example, it's uh,
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there's a very we're in the Olympic
Games. We have no funds. Sydney
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is going to be the debut.
We have no funds to get started.
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Uh and my wife in Sheldon pay
the bills for a year where I go
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out to Victoria. I had to
get all my Olympic qualification paperwork done,
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so we moved out to Victoria just
me. Karen stays in Ontario. I'm
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living in residence with seventeen year old
kids. Uh, and I start a
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national team program with no money.
I literally found I went to a thousand
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houses and found some people who had
taken an athlete for seven or eight months
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into their house and those athletes eventually, you know, moved into those places
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for free. We borrowed pool time
from the University of Victoria. We found
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other coaches and massage therapists who donate
an hour or two here there, and
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that became literally our our ongoing program. And so you realize that if you're
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motivated enough, something is going to
come through and we got lucky. Some
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parents came through to donate the houses
and beds and other coaches donated some hours
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of pool time and that's how we
got that program off the ground. But
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a lot of this stuff really comes
down to, you know, I'm going
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to make it happen, stick to
it, nous and so forth, and
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that was one of the key things
that that came through for us. Yeah,
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it's a great origin story, Um, you know. And we are
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all in the midst of really being
in the startup business ourselves. And Uh,
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and you know, when I was
at C I U T, it
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was a startup erand you were a
start up at the Moose, effectively,
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I mean, you know, it
wasn't quite you know, it was corporate,
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but still it was a brand new
adventure and a new station. And
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I was at the rounds too.
I've been a tech startup as well,
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and shout out to them. They
just got a wow, well done.
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Yeah, that's a long time.
Probably we should probably have them on the
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show because they're doing some cool stuff, really cool stuff in terms of doctors
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healthcare. It's really cool. Yeah, and and it's again one of those
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overnight successes. It only took about
ten years, you know. Yeah,
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but that's the that's the way of
it. So the whole story that that
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Barry tells about this. I just
think is is so informative in terms of
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the character and quality. Probably have
a lot of people you know in your
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life and it might be a teacher, it could be just somebody who's volunteering
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and and doing that stuff. I
mean he he invented the role of the
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national trathlon coach and, you know, pushed himself to go get in there
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and do it, go out to
Victoria, live out there so he could
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get trained and certified to be an
Olympic. I mean just wow. Right.
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So it's there's some great inspiration just
in Barry's story but also in the
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book. So normally we would uh
feature the full interview on our supercast feed
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now, when next, dot supercast
dot com, behind a paywall, but
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in this case I think, you
know what, we're going to drop it
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into the into the feed entirely,
just separately today, the whole piece right
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here on now and next and give
it a good listen and, you know
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what, do the right thing.
Go out by by Barry's book. It's
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and spread it around, share it
with the kids, because some really great
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sort of I guess character building is
probably the best way to talk about it
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and he is such an example.
I said, you know, here's the
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guy who was Um on the assembly
line at GM and Windsor Watches the Olympics.
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I want to do that, and
he did it. And it's not
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that it was easy, it was
hard work right. So Um, yeah,
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and I'm coming to you from a
beautiful downtown Richmond Hill today, not
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really our Toronto Studios, but I
had the chance yesterday and today we're working
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with Tim Hoodack's team at Aria,
the on Teria Real Estate Association, and
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I didn't realize this, but I
guess all of the real estate boards have
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volunteer presidents. So they've tim and
his team at the executive office decided that.
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You know, if you're the new
president of the Real Estate Board,
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and Timmins, chances are you had
your hands full raising your kids and just
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getting your business going. But now
in that role you're kind of having to
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answer for a whole bunch of things
in terms of the real estate market,
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the way the board is being handled. What you know? What is what
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is this buy and sell stuff going? And let's face it, that's the
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most important buying decision will ever make
in our lives. Buying a house,
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but they have to deal with guys
like me picking up the phone and saying,
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okay, Becky, what's wrong?
I don't understand why the market is
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so soft here in timins, because
what, what are you guys not doing?
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And they're a little on the back
of their heels because, you know,
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we can think that we're being gentle, but sometimes people get, you
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know, deer in the headlights sort
of thing. And when, sometimes,
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when you do a follow up question
because they didn't actually answer the question,
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and then they go I already used
my answer. You now what? I
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already used my answer. I love
that. It's like a grade three kid
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at the spelling be I already spelled
that word. Um, you mean you
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didn't qualify that? Guys like me. You mean media. You're doing media
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training. You're making sure that they
don't deer in the headlines on the world.
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But but here's what we do want
to tell them, and I'm working
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with Sean Mallen, and many of
you will know Sean from his days at
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Global News and we worked together there. Um, but Sean's good advice is
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don't try not to answer the question. Answer the question and if you don't
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know, you don't know. Anyway, we're doing media training. Yesterday we
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did all presentation training with them and
it's a what Tim Hoodak showed up afterwards
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and we were chatting and he says, so how to go? I said
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it was great. But the number
of people who stood up in introductions on
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morning one and said, Oh God, I hate public speaking, I'm not
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really very good at it. I
just I just freeze, I'm not going
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to do this, it's gonna be
terrible to a person. They were probably
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in the top third of the presentations
that were given yesterday. They had to
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write their own speech about anything and
they were awesome. And the one that
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really stood up for me was a
woman, Sarah, is the executive officer
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in Niagara at the Niagara Board,
and she just got the job. She
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was really wanting to do the job
and realized, oh my I have to
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speak at the A G M now
because I'm the executive officer, and so
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her speech was all about being really
awkward at public speaking and and she acknowledged
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that. Now that was my awkward
introduction to my speech and I said,
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you know, what a great way
of owning this right. I mean,
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and I said to her afterwards I
wasn't awkward on your behalf anymore. I
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was with you. Okay, I
get it, like we put that behind
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us and she was so you know, I hate to use the word authentic,
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but smart in terms of how she
approached it. So it's been a
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real eye opener for me where you
do not have to be the no ums
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and Os kind of guy and make
sure you're snappy and colorful and energetic all
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the time, that you can get
your message through by, you know,
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like we say, like to say, make eye contact, and she did
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such a great job in an unconventional
way of doing that I thought, Oh,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna use that and
teach other people how to do it,
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because it was really a good learning
for me. Yeah, it's like
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podcasting. People say that too,
like Oh, I have to sound like
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I'm on the radio. No,
you don't know, you don't. It's
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actually it's a level of self awareness, is what you're actually describing. It's
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getting comfortable enough, being self aware
enough to present yourself in that light and
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it creates this crazy good empathetic connection
with the people either on the other side
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of the Um, you know,
the speaker, or in the room.
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I love when people say I'm not, I wouldn't be get into podcasts,
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like hosting one, and I go
really, because you can talk about that
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subject for hours on end. So
let's just move on. Microphone in front
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of you. Yeah, what you're
saying. Yeah, now you have a
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podcast. It's not. It's not
this big thing that people put in their
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heads. Yeah, well, it's. It's I always found that there were
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times, and you guys have seen
this happen, where, you know,
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you bring somebody in to the newsroom
or to do a show or to do
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an audition for a show, and
they're just talking like a normal human being
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and then the microphone comes up.
We're gonna talk about or for women,
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can we talk about this also after
Fiona has blown through. But the whole
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thing for women is that then their
voices come right up in the top of
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their net. Yeah, I also
love people say to me, Oh,
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you're on the radio, what's your
radio voice like? But you can we
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breathe. I breathe differently when I'm
reading a newscast than when I'm actually speaking
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in real life, but I don't
actually like hypermodulate my voice unless I'm like
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trying to sound like a Disney character
now well, and the more you try,
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the harder the harder it is to
crack that habit. It's it's counterintuitive.
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But so anyway, today we're going
to do the do the media training
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and but I thought they would shout
out to the folks at Oria and the
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newly appointed boards of the the real
estate boards right across the right across the
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province and the good work. So
we will be back at it again tomorrow,
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not with now and next because well, one of us is going to
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be hunkered down and maybe batting down
the hatches and batting down the Battons,
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as bugs bunny would say. Um, but we'll be. We'll be keeping
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an eye on what's going on there
tomorrow. Uh, in the feed,
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not necessarily this one, but we'll
be busy on alleged team will be back
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at it and well, we might
get into the conversation around affordable housing and
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see where we have been this week
with the folks at Queen's Park and how
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well that whole thing is played out. Around Day off, no day off
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morning for the Queen. That's on
the Ledge tomorrow for Story Studio Network.
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This is ss n Story Studio Network. Yeah,
