The Fortuitous Path: Discovering TCM, Meridian Yoga, and Personal Growth w/Mandy Loy

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Welcome to Know your Flow podcast, where women in flow share what they know.
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Join me as we talk to women and hear their stories on what they know, how they've grown and living in flow, all right.
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So today we're here with Mandy Hi, mandy Hi Hi, mandy Loy.
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So, yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit about.
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We're going to talk a little bit about traditional Chinese medicine, meridians, acupuncture, things like that, and maybe a little bit about yoga and your journey into all this information and knowledge.
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So, yeah, thanks for being down to come chat, thanks for having me.
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Yeah yeah, absolutely so start by telling us a little bit about what you do, what you're into right now and maybe how we feel like it benefits your life and others um, just simple, yeah, easy question to start off with.
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So I guess, like how I came into this stuff the meridians and the adding in the Chinese medicine perspective and tapping and acupressure and the ear seats was I was working at an acupuncture clinic and I had some hands-on work to do there, so I wasn't doing the actual acupuncture but I was removing the needles.
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So I would meet people who had whatever they had going on in the beginning of their session and you know they're like stressed out, they have headaches, they have back pain, they have neuropathy, you know whatever it is, and then the doctor would come in and do their treatment and then I would get to be the person that saw them on the other end of the treatment, so removing the needles and like seeing how it affected people differently and what it looked like from the beginning to the end.
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So I hadn't had a ton of experience with acupuncture prior to that.
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I had been a couple times, and then we were trying to find a way for me to get a better grasp on things, because I was obviously seeing all these people feel better and getting to like see the happiness and the joy on their face post-treatment, and so we started looking into like little things I could do that weren't go to acupuncture school, because, yeah, what is that process?
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Like Long, I would think so.
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So it's a master's program and it would also be a commute, and I'll circle back to this part of it with the ear seeds eventually.
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But commuting is not my thing.
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I don't like being on the highway, don't like driving at night, so like that wasn't an option that's not calling to me.
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So we found this yoga training that the teacher and their program is called science of self yoga.
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So they teach you about the 12 meridians and then they give you a bunch of sequences and there's just a bunch of different things you can do with the information they give you.
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So it kind of all just like clicked with this training.
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And then the last day of the training they offered like an ear acupuncture training or ear seeds.
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So the rules for Virginia are are different than you know, like every state's different, so I can't actually do the needling unless I'm at an acupuncture office, but I can do the ear seeds.
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So that was at the end of this training and it just kind of made things make more sense, not only like with that job at the acupuncture office but also with teaching yoga yeah, it was like okay, this is exactly what I needed.
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This seals the deal for me.
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This makes me feel like I'm doing this for a reason.
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Yeah, cause you have your 200 hour, and how long have you had that?
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Um about nine years.
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How did you find yoga in?
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in general, I lived in the Outer Banks for a long time and occasionally I would like go to some classes there with some friends.
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And then I moved back here and it was a big change, big transition, like being gone for almost 10 years and then coming back here and being away from the ocean, and just a big lifestyle change.
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So I started taking some classes and, of course, had that week long of attending classes where I would just leave bawling my freaking eyes out, you know.
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And then JALA opened, so I started going there just because they had that new member like oh yeah, on my body it was like $30 a month or something.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, okay, yeah, I'll do that.
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And then I kind of just got close with Krista, the owner of that studio, and when she offered the training I was like you know what I think I'm just gonna do this and then it ended up.
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I texted my mom to tell her that I had signed up and she's like no way, I just signed up too, no way.
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So I actually ended up doing the 200 hour training with my mom, totally on a whim, like neither one of us knew we had signed up.
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That's so funny.
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Did it make you guys closer?
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Yeah, or yeah, I mean it.
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It it had its positives and a little bit of a negative.
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Like it was something I kind of wanted to do on my own so I could, like bond with strangers, yeah.
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Cause you can't really share really the depths of your stuff with your mom.
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I mean, I guess you can, but when your mom's there, or even like a close friend, sometimes it can feel a little bit more like oh, are they gonna judge me?
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Because they know me for real.
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And now, I'm saying this, and or am I like, tied to and responsible for their enjoyment?
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Yeah, which is kind of silly, but it happens seriously yeah but it was fun.
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It was good to have like somebody to ride with.
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Did you want to teach or were you just like, no, I just want to deepen my practice, and this seems like a good thing for me to do so I I did want to teach.
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I don't really know the why behind that, though.
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Yeah, I did want to teach, and it it's, I guess, like it just kind of happened too, because I ended up managing the winchester studios, so it just made sense for me to be teaching there too, since I was doing all the other behind the scenes things.
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Yeah, why do you?
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think that you liked yoga.
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I liked that I could go into a room.
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I didn't have a phone, no one could talk to me or call me.
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I just was there in the experience, just alone.
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You know what I mean, but not like lonely alone.
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Yeah, you know what I mean, but not like lonely alone.
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Yeah, like alone with a purpose.
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Yes, like your favorite state, but there was like some, yeah, like you were doing good Because I know you share that.
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You're a five on the Enneagram.
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Yeah, and I love the Enneagram and it explains so much about people's personalities, and especially the fives.
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I think it really seen.
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And oh, I'm not just like weird that I only have so much energy or that my social battery is low 100%.
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and it's funny that you say nines also, because I thought I was the person that thought they were a nine.
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And then someone, someone said to me I think you're actually a five, why don't you like go read that a little bit?
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And I was like holy crap.
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Yes, yeah, what were the elements of the five that you feel like had that the nine didn't?
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The needing to recharge your battery alone, for sure.
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And research, like I'm also a Virgo, so there's this aspect of perfection that always comes up for Virgos and I never felt like I was a perfectionist, but then the research part of it may make a little bit more sense, you know.
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So I brought all these freaking books with me that no one can see, but I have four books Just in case you know, yeah, you might need to research something.
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Yeah, it's a good point Honestly, yeah, so that's cool to know about yourself that you bring kind of this like thorough knowledge to the table.
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Would you kind of say that that feels like what you offer people a little bit, or what you have to sort of give like what you offer people a little?
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bit or what you have to sort of give.
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So I would say yes, but then there's that little thing in the back of my head that's like do I actually know enough about this stuff to be hey, I know all this stuff.
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You know what I mean.
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No, I totally know what you mean.
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What do you feel like helps you with that, get over that or push through that?
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What?
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do you feel like helps you with that?
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Get over that or push through that.
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A big realization that I've had this summer is that for me, summer is hibernation.
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So I am like the bear of the summer.
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I don't like being hot, I hate humidity, it gives me a headache.
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My skin doesn't like to touch my skin when it can't go somewhere cool.
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So the realization was I need to be outside, I need to go on my walks, I need to go to yoga, I need all those balancing tools for myself to be in alignment so that I can share these things.
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Because my full-time job, I work from home, so literally I could spend a whole entire day just inside of my brain.
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Yeah, and then that's when things get yucky yeah, because it's just like feeding lies if you're not careful.
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Yeah, exactly, and like yeah, and creating scenes that aren't even necessary.
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Does Chinese medicine have anything sort of in terms of the summer and balance and things like that?
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Because I know, like in ayurveda it's a lot about like bringing in cooling elements and things like that same kind of things.
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they would suggest the yoga and the breath work and all those types of things.
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And staying cool would mean that the things that I know that I need to do, I need to do them early or I need to do them late, yeah, so just finding that place where you can fit it in, making sure it's somewhere.
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So then, what does winter look like for you?
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If yeah, so if you're able to push through by really nourishing yourself, especially in the summer, then how does winter look?
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So it's's easier.
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I will go anywhere and do anything, as long as there's not sleet on the ground that's so funny yeah, I do like to be comfortable.
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I do like to be in my cardigan.
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My freaking dog's name is cozy, so like there are those things about winter.
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You know that I love being able to be in a blanket at home, but I don't feel like I'm trapped there.
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It's enjoyable to be there, but then I'm also okay with going and doing.
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Yeah.
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And I also love the hot yoga at that time of the year.
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Like I cannot do it in the summer, in the winter time, yes.
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Every day.
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Yeah, exactly, heat, me up and then send me on my way.
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yeah, exactly, heat me up and then send me on my way.
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Did you feel like you struggled with, like your needs for any period of your life, like, did you ever feel kind of like can I be more social, or why do I always need alone time?
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That kind of come up for you yes, so my background and my lifestyle.
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prior to all of this, I worked in restaurants, so the whole time I was in the.
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Outer Banks.
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I worked in restaurants.
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I went there with the plan to stay for the summer, make a bunch of money and then come home, but then I was just.
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This is awesome, we have the winters off, we can kind of travel.
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So I feel like I lived the life of a retired person.
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When I was there, I worked really hard for a couple months and then I did the opposite of a snowbird.
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I went wherever and then when I moved back here, I also worked in a restaurant.
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So my ability to be social looked totally different.
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The friendships that I thought were important to me looked totally different.
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Everything revolved around alcohol.
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So that's who I thought my people were and I'm not saying that some of those people weren't my people.
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But those friendships now and it took a long time to be okay with this and process this those friendships weren't true.
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I was able to be social because I had been drinking or everyone around me had been drinking, and you know it was just easier that way.
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So then, as I got a little bit older, drinking gave me a headache every time, and now I'll get a migraine and I could drink a beer and I'll be hung over for two days.
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It's just crazy.
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So, leaving that lifestyle and moving to this one, it took a long time to be able to let go of some of those friendships that I thought were really important and understand how people changed and grew.
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And then also you throw COVID into the mix and you know, everything went haywire.
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Yeah.
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Everything that you thought was important.
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You had to decide, is it?
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Or do I just let this go and move into this other community?
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so was there like a catalyst for why you went from being in that scene to then kind of this scene of health and self-love and self-development and growth and things like that was there, or was it just kind of the natural progression of like this isn't working for me.
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I don't like this anymore.
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I think, because I had spent so much time in that industry and I didn't have a traditional graduate high school, go to college kind of background, that it was like there's certain boxes that I could fit into and I say this but I work a nine to five-ish job typing away to pay my bills, but this is what I actually love.
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So I think originally I started off at a chiropractic office with Dr Nikki at Likens, whom I will say this to my dying day she is an angel, like she was meant to be a part of my journey for sure yeah, and then I moved to the acupuncture office.
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Same thing, I think that was meant to happen.
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Another person who changed the whole trajectory for me and in those moments it felt good, but I had no idea that that was supposed to happen to get me here.
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And that was supposed to happen to get me here.
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And I've been thinking a lot about my nine to five job that I have now.
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That was meant to happen so that I have time to do these other trainings and learn this other stuff and get to the, the pinnacle yeah, whatever, yeah, whatever that is.
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Or yeah, just to continue on the path of serving others in a way that feels authentic and feels aligned with you, you know, and what you're interested in, and to be able to pursue those interests and bring them to other people and for your own love of research.
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And yeah, because, like you said, I'm sure there's so much to know and to learn in this field.
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Are you always interested in kind of yoga stuff?
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Woo, woo stuff?
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Do you like reiki, things like that?
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What do you think?
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So?
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this is a really funny question to me at this moment, because this summer was like a struggle and just in the last couple of weeks things have come up for me, Like I've been working with an energy worker.
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Last week I had a long, long conversation with another Reiki practitioner or master and she actually said to me before I had really told her anything about myself, except for where I got her phone number and what I do for a living- yeah she was like right now, these roles could be reversed.
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you are meant to be doing something like this, if that's what you want to be doing.
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She was like I would come to you and let you tell me what you see in me.
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And I was like, okay, I just, you know, I just needed a little bit of validation.
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So there's always been a part of me that's been drawn to this stuff.
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And the night before I had this conversation with this woman, I literally, on a walk with the dog, said to my boyfriend I think I'm going to give up this full-time job sometime in the near future and just literally go full, woo-woo, yeah.
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And he was like, uh, okay, I don't know what that means, but okay, yeah exactly.
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So like it has been a long time building inside of me.
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So like I would get off work at 3am when I worked at the restaurant, I would go home and I would get on online and look at GoFundMes and donate half my tip money to people I'd never even freaking met, you know, because I needed to feel like I was of service in that kind of way, and so I was finding any little tidbit to give back.
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Yeah, exactly, and you know restaurant work in general.
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I'm sure was really hard on your spirit and hard for you to be able to do that.
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So, yeah, getting on GoFundMe or whatever it is in those small ways was what you probably have energy to be able to do, because, yeah, I mean, restaurant work in general is a lot, you know, and get it, having that schedule and all that stuff is so much.
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So, yeah, that makes a lot of sense, for sure, and yeah, so with being a five, though, okay, and you only have so much energy, does it scare you to help others?
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Or do you have any sort of boundaries about how much you are able to give?
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Or does any of that kind of stuff come up?
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Where you're like, I want to be of service, I want to be helpful, I want to give you this information, I want you to feel better.
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I have all these tools, but also I don't know if I have the amount of energy to give you.
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Does that come up?
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Or especially being like an introverted person and all that too?
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Yes.
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And so I have a planner paper, and once I see that it looks like it's at the max, then I'm like, okay, this day is out.
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No, or I'll reschedule what can be rescheduled.
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You know what I mean.
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I feel like I'll usually know ahead of time if there's too much about to happen and I'll just put a, put a no, yeah on the day yeah, so you have good boundaries with your time and yeah, for the most part and I definitely was not always like that.
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I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I'll do everything.
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Yeah, and then I'll go home and crash for a week and not be able to respond.
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Yeah.
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So you've kind of been able to find more of the balance as you've grown, of a sustainable way to support other people and yourself like at the same time, so you can show up so tell us about, yeah, where do we want to begin?
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So why do you feel like so the acupuncture clinic was what really turned you on to it and you're like this is really cool.
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What benefits have you felt yourself from receiving acupuncture?
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so I had acupuncture, basically just for the headaches and then a couple of times just for overall wellness, just like a let's just wipe the slate clean kind of thing.
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And that was nice because again you're in a room, you're by yourself, nobody can call you, nobody can ask you for anything, nobody's barking.
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You're just there in the space and things are flowing.
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Yeah, can you explain a little bit of what acupuncture is, what it does and the benefits?
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So acupuncture is based on the meridian system.
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So just on the most basic level we'll say there are 12 meridians and they're each in a pair, so there's a yin and a yang energy channel in a pair.
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So there would be a big form with all the information and then all that stuff is collectively put together to figure out where do we start.
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So like you wouldn't go in and say my back hurts, I have glaucoma yeah, right, right, you know they wouldn't try and treat everything.
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Yeah, they would find the most prominent and start there and so they're going to treat it by putting the needles in whatever corresponds with, whatever meridian corresponds with the problem, the challenge at hand.
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Yes, and it might be multiple meridians that they work in.
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So we'll just say it's low back pain, because who doesn't?
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have that at some point.
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So they would place the needles on the points.
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That would help with low back pain and maybe add something in there too for calming the nervous system.
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You know, there's a couple of points that are used pretty frequently and most of those are just to ground your energy because they want it to be an enjoyable experience.
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You know, especially if you're someone who's like I don't really love needles, so I'm just going to be in here in a state of panic you know what I mean Adding something that's just chill and you would just be there for 20-ish minutes and this would help to do.
00:21:03.800 --> 00:21:08.308
It could do several things, but mainly move the chi in a better way.
00:21:08.308 --> 00:21:13.682
So the energy inside the body Open up the pathways, or if there's too much going on, then pump the brakes.
00:21:13.682 --> 00:21:16.461
So the energy inside the body open up the pathways, or if there's too much going on, then pump the brakes on the energy.
00:21:16.721 --> 00:21:24.252
So what is the difference between what a reiki practitioner is doing and then an acupuncturist and like those energy channels, are they all connected?
00:21:24.252 --> 00:21:25.316
Are they all the same?
00:21:25.757 --> 00:21:32.446
so they could be working in the same areas because it's all subtle body, it's all energetic.
00:21:32.567 --> 00:21:34.849
Really, can you see the meridians?
00:21:34.849 --> 00:21:37.882
No, so how do they know that they exist?
00:21:37.882 --> 00:21:41.137
Do you like how I'm asking you, like you're the god of acupuncture?
00:21:42.019 --> 00:21:44.365
let me, let me look in this book real quick.
00:21:44.827 --> 00:21:45.489
How look up?
00:21:45.489 --> 00:21:47.173
How do they know if they exist?
00:21:50.381 --> 00:21:54.088
I mean, I guess I would say how do you know your feelings exist?
00:21:54.328 --> 00:22:24.179
yeah, exactly one of the people that I have learned a lot from her name is Stephanie Nosko and she has a book coming out soon, but also she's on Instagram and she posts these very digestible little snippets, so like she'll pick an organ and she'll tell you the physical things, the emotional things, the subtle body things, the points you could use if you're experiencing any of these things and all of that.
00:22:24.179 --> 00:22:34.896
And one of the things she talks about is imagination, and I know the word imagination makes things sound fake, but look at this hair studio.
00:22:34.896 --> 00:22:36.923
It wasn't real before you got here.
00:22:36.923 --> 00:22:43.163
How did you come up with all the ideas for this place and how you wanted to decorate it and what you wanted to look like?
00:22:43.403 --> 00:22:45.958
You thought about it, you saw it in your imagination.
00:22:46.238 --> 00:22:53.690
Yeah, or I mean, maybe some of it was elsewhere, but you created that in your mind from other ideas.
00:22:54.335 --> 00:22:59.327
And I think that sort of the results of things like this speak for themselves.
00:22:59.327 --> 00:23:06.189
I don't know why we, I guess as humans, we just like to know things and know things for certain.
00:23:06.189 --> 00:23:10.165
But I also think sometimes it doesn't matter really.
00:23:10.777 --> 00:23:15.096
And that's like the big difference between Eastern medicine and Western medicine.
00:23:15.096 --> 00:23:44.101
So Western medicine those doctors you would talk to them about Reiki and they'd disregard the whole idea because they're taught from science and proof and being able to like, see all of this, these things, and then Eastern medicine, like you said, more subtle body, more natural things, and it doesn't make either one right or wrong, and I think we're just now coming to a place where the two can coexist.
00:23:44.101 --> 00:23:57.542
I've seen two people with the exact same condition one trying to go one way, one trying to go the other way, and those things not working, and then they have to do the opposite of what they originally wanted to do.
00:23:57.542 --> 00:23:59.416
So two people with lyme's disease.
00:23:59.416 --> 00:24:04.436
This lady over here is eating all the food, doing all the natural stuff, and she's not getting better.
00:24:04.436 --> 00:24:11.220
She decides to just take the, the medicine or whatever, and then she's walking again.
00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:12.624
She's able to take care of herself.
00:24:12.624 --> 00:24:15.740
She's able to do all the things, and then someone else.
00:24:15.740 --> 00:24:16.742
You know, it might be different.
00:24:16.742 --> 00:24:24.507
So I think we just have to decide what we want to believe in, and if we don't, then it doesn't matter.
00:24:24.527 --> 00:24:25.335
Then don't take the tool.
00:24:25.335 --> 00:24:27.537
Exactly, yeah, but it's here if you want it.
00:24:27.537 --> 00:24:28.797
Yeah, exactly.
00:24:28.797 --> 00:24:31.858
So the meridians are running through the body, the channels.
00:24:31.858 --> 00:24:34.280
What makes things get stuck?
00:24:34.280 --> 00:24:35.801
Or how does it?
00:24:35.801 --> 00:24:50.290
So if your low back is hurting, for instance, that's a physical thing, your low back and then basically the idea behind it, from what I understand, is that the meridian that would be sort of in line with that or that, what relates to that, is sort of clogged or stuck.
00:24:50.290 --> 00:24:51.592
Is that kind of how it works?
00:24:51.731 --> 00:24:54.497
And then it could be from a lot of things.
00:24:54.497 --> 00:24:59.026
So it could be because you sit like a shrimp at a desk all day.
00:24:59.026 --> 00:25:10.019
It could be because you were in some sort of car accident 18 years ago and you didn't really think you hurt yourself, but there's still something there that's not processed.
00:25:10.019 --> 00:25:13.605
It could be from emotions.
00:25:13.605 --> 00:25:21.425
I mean, there could be something that you have been wanting to say for 30 years and it's stuck there.
00:25:21.425 --> 00:25:22.689
You know what it is.
00:25:22.689 --> 00:25:33.824
You just have it deep, deep, deep somewhere, hiding it from everyone and everything, and that can cause stagnation and pain.
00:25:33.903 --> 00:25:42.548
Yeah, cause if you're not going to listen to your intuition or the truth that lives within you and do anything about it, it's got to go somewhere, and so then it gets stuck in your body.
00:25:42.548 --> 00:25:48.886
So do you think that after people receive a treatment or acupuncture, that they're able to speak their truth more?
00:25:48.886 --> 00:25:58.159
As these things get worked on, do you think that it starts to alchemize these things or transform these things because of the freedom that you're now feeling in your body, or how do you think it all works?
00:25:58.159 --> 00:26:01.917
I guess you could completely ignore it and still keep it tucked away.
00:26:02.018 --> 00:26:05.211
But I mean that's that's kind of how the ear seeds work too.
00:26:05.451 --> 00:26:07.237
Yeah, yeah, let's talk about the ear seeds.
00:26:07.237 --> 00:26:08.641
So yeah, the ear seeds are great.
00:26:08.641 --> 00:26:10.003
Bt dubs love, love them.
00:26:10.003 --> 00:26:13.856
Couldn't tell you really what they, you know do, but I love receiving them.
00:26:13.856 --> 00:26:19.333
I feel a lot better, clearer, more balanced, just more ready to live life.
00:26:19.413 --> 00:26:27.896
I don't know, yeah so that was something that I learned on the like the last day of that training and we learned the needles.
00:26:27.896 --> 00:26:32.146
But the ear seeds were something exact same points.
00:26:32.146 --> 00:26:34.492
It's just a sticker and a bead.
00:26:34.492 --> 00:26:37.078
So like they go on, the exact same points on the ears.
00:26:37.078 --> 00:26:46.928
The protocol that I do was created by it's called the NADA protocol National Acupuncture Detox Association.
00:26:46.928 --> 00:26:56.449
So this protocol was created in the late seventies and actually brought to the United States by the Black Panthers Wow.
00:26:56.449 --> 00:27:07.709
So a lot of their members were on drugs and dope sick and they were trying to find ways to treat their members who didn't have a lot of money and make them feel better.
00:27:07.709 --> 00:27:10.203
So they learned this protocol.
00:27:11.016 --> 00:27:14.502
And it's up to five points in each ear.
00:27:14.502 --> 00:27:19.500
So there's the Shen Men, which is like the main point in the ear.
00:27:19.500 --> 00:27:22.728
There's a liver point, a kidney point and a lung point.
00:27:22.728 --> 00:27:27.063
So I do this now at a women's recovery center.
00:27:27.063 --> 00:27:29.708
That was just like another step for me.
00:27:29.708 --> 00:27:30.776
After we learned.
00:27:30.776 --> 00:27:32.963
I was like, well, now I need to use it.
00:27:32.963 --> 00:27:33.595
What do I do?
00:27:33.595 --> 00:27:34.297
Where do I go?
00:27:34.297 --> 00:27:38.064
So I ended up at a women's recovery center to do this.
00:27:38.064 --> 00:27:49.178
But the points work for stress, anxiety, cravings, withdrawals, depression and also just to tap into parasympathetic nervous system.
00:27:49.178 --> 00:27:51.808
Most people will leave them in for a week.
00:27:51.808 --> 00:27:58.775
I do have a couple people who leave them in for longer and just call me in like a three or four weeks and they're like hey.
00:27:59.196 --> 00:27:59.738
Receive me.
00:27:59.738 --> 00:28:05.434
Yeah, but the story I like to tell about these is at the end of this training.
00:28:05.434 --> 00:28:12.961
It was in Richmond, it was a Friday, it ended at five o'clock and then I had to drive back here, which is two plus hours.
00:28:12.961 --> 00:28:14.963
I hate driving on the highway.
00:28:14.963 --> 00:28:16.685
I hate driving at night.
00:28:16.685 --> 00:28:30.535
So it was in November, so it was nighttime, so I had them put the ear seeds on me before I left and then I just got my car and got on the highway with the other seven million people and just drove back to Winchester and was unfazed.
00:28:30.535 --> 00:28:33.944
So that, to me, made me a believer.
00:28:34.144 --> 00:28:38.096
I mean you literally said at the beginning of this I would never want to commute because I hate driving and stuff.
00:28:38.096 --> 00:28:39.261
And what does it induce?
00:28:39.261 --> 00:28:41.954
Stress and anxiety, and especially after a long training.
00:28:41.954 --> 00:28:49.560
I've had that before where, after you're just so drained and you want to be in your bed because it's so much information and that you were able to just like doop, doop, doop.
00:28:49.560 --> 00:28:51.604
Yeah, not a problem, they're pretty cool.
00:28:51.604 --> 00:28:52.806
Do you do them on yourself?
00:28:52.806 --> 00:28:55.576
Yeah, sometimes, yeah, I do so.
00:28:55.576 --> 00:28:57.542
Then did you guys also learn about tapping?
00:28:57.903 --> 00:28:59.500
Yes, so that's part of it.
00:28:59.500 --> 00:29:13.777
So this particular training gives you an outline for a sequence for each meridian pairing and then the ability to change it.
00:29:13.777 --> 00:29:23.140
You know it could be a yin practice, or it can be a really physical yang practice, or you just throw together the parts that you have time for, or and this is for a yoga practice, yes, for teaching yoga.
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:24.461
Okay, so the?
00:29:24.461 --> 00:29:25.644
What are the 12 meridians?
00:29:25.644 --> 00:29:26.465
So?
00:29:27.106 --> 00:29:36.990
liver, gallbladder, kidney bladder, large intestines, lung, heart, small pericardium, triple warmer.
00:29:36.990 --> 00:29:40.040
Dun dun dun, I got 10.
00:29:40.040 --> 00:29:41.424
Heart Is heart one Did I say heart?
00:29:41.424 --> 00:29:41.865
I don't know.
00:29:41.865 --> 00:29:44.138
Heart and small intestines are besties.
00:29:44.500 --> 00:29:48.028
Okay, and then is there an emotion with each one of those as well?
00:29:48.028 --> 00:29:50.819
Yep, yeah, so there's an emotion that correlates with.
00:29:50.819 --> 00:30:02.042
So, in theory, if somebody has, I don't know what kind of problem would you have with a small intestine so the small intestines is paired up with the heart okay, heartburn, chest pain, that sort of thing.
00:30:02.083 --> 00:30:08.502
If you had that, this one could be things like this well, the emotions are joy, love and compassion.
00:30:08.502 --> 00:30:20.818
So if you feel lacking in any of those departments, that and then like shoulder stuff, so the heart and the small intestines both run from the pinky up the arm and come to the backs of the shoulders.
00:30:21.260 --> 00:30:41.777
So anything in the shoulders, the backs of the shoulder blades, so all in that area, elbows stuff like that because I think that emotions and the physical body together, I think that's so fascinating and I think it's so overlooked, and I think that sickness coming from our emotions is again overlooked.
00:30:41.777 --> 00:30:48.588
So if somebody was like man, I, my shoulders are hurting all the time.
00:30:48.588 --> 00:30:50.459
Whenever I'm with this friend, my neck hurts.
00:30:50.459 --> 00:30:54.790
I feel like, oh, whatever, is that sort of something that you feel like okay?
00:30:54.790 --> 00:31:03.539
If you start tuning into your body and you start noticing these things and then you notice what you're doing around those things, then what Should we explore?
00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:04.942
Maybe not doing?
00:31:04.942 --> 00:31:13.208
Or is that a sign in our lives, like, if we're like man, my face always breaks out whenever I this or whatever.
00:31:13.208 --> 00:31:15.262
How do we sort of navigate that, you think?
00:31:16.155 --> 00:31:18.221
Most people probably aren't.
00:31:18.221 --> 00:31:19.726
That might sound bad.
00:31:19.726 --> 00:31:27.848
Some people aren't totally self-aware enough to know when that stuff comes up.
00:31:27.848 --> 00:31:29.480
And I mean myself included.
00:31:29.740 --> 00:31:31.065
Yeah, I know Until fairly recently.
00:31:31.154 --> 00:31:32.842
I feel like now I'm way better at that.
00:31:32.842 --> 00:31:36.766
But there was definitely a time where I was like I have no clue.
00:31:36.766 --> 00:31:45.849
I have had this pain, stiffness behind my right shoulder blade for a long time.
00:31:45.849 --> 00:31:49.401
I had chiropractic work, I had acupuncture.
00:31:49.401 --> 00:31:52.545
I went to a nutritionist way back when she thought I had liver stones which I had acupuncture.
00:31:52.545 --> 00:31:56.321
I went to a nutritionist way back when she thought I had liver stones which I had never heard of.
00:31:56.321 --> 00:32:01.022
I know there were gallstones, but she thought maybe I had liver stones and there was some kind of blockage back there.
00:32:01.022 --> 00:32:06.579
But then I was like this is definitely an emotional thing.
00:32:07.181 --> 00:32:08.986
How did you know that it was an emotional thing?
00:32:08.986 --> 00:32:10.676
Cause you're like it's not going away.
00:32:10.676 --> 00:32:12.601
It feels deeper than that than that.
00:32:12.621 --> 00:32:34.207
Yeah, it feels like it's been there forever and I think sometimes we have to this sounds so cheesy look within and be like what the heck is going on and burying guilt and burying shame and those types of things I feel like are the the root of so much?
00:32:34.207 --> 00:32:37.582
I mean, they could be the root of why you're physically sick.
00:32:37.582 --> 00:32:45.267
So it could be the pain, it could be physical sickness, and that's hard, hard, hard work, hard.
00:32:45.267 --> 00:32:50.077
I mean, our parents weren't taught to deal with any of this.
00:32:50.077 --> 00:33:03.041
So I often have to remind myself it's not that I have a bad relationship with my mom, but she does not want to talk about feelings, heck, no, but that's because nobody ever taught her how to talk about her feelings.
00:33:03.182 --> 00:33:04.525
You know what I mean Exactly.
00:33:04.525 --> 00:33:12.108
So, that stuff, I think, is where the hard work lies, where that you have to just decide.
00:33:12.108 --> 00:33:15.080
Think is where the hard work lies, where that you have to just decide.
00:33:15.080 --> 00:33:17.146
Do you want to believe in this and let this support you and help you?
00:33:17.689 --> 00:33:19.875
I mean, I don't know, does that make sense?
00:33:19.875 --> 00:33:21.500
No, I think it totally makes sense.
00:33:21.500 --> 00:33:35.127
But because you're so right, yeah, just ignoring feelings, being like, oh wow, my body hurts, and then trying to fix your body, and never like looking deeper at what emotion could be underlying, or yeah, or any of that.
00:33:35.127 --> 00:34:01.548
But I mean luckily, yeah, and I wonder, like, do people know that this is a thing, or is it just because we practice yoga, hip to it, like I wonder the percentage of people that do know the correlation between your emotions and your physical I mean, we have two I acupuncturists in this town, which is not very many, and we have a ton of doctors, general practitioners and all of those things.
00:34:01.974 --> 00:34:12.523
So I don't think it's common knowledge or maybe people just haven't been ready for it, but it is kind of like your yoga practice.
00:34:12.523 --> 00:34:15.443
You know, when you first start going to yoga, you're there to get a workout.
00:34:15.523 --> 00:34:15.744
Yeah.
00:34:16.025 --> 00:34:16.585
You know what I mean.
00:34:16.585 --> 00:34:25.681
And then suddenly you start feeling something else, and then other parts of it become important, and then it's literally for your well-being.
00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:28.146
Yeah, exactly For your brain To not be crazy, yeah.
00:34:28.146 --> 00:34:35.836
So, anyway, what were the the?
00:34:35.836 --> 00:34:37.420
Did you have the other two, stomach and spleen, please?
00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:50.945
Stomach and spleen, cool, so you're able to create yoga sequences that align with the meridians correct, that are able to activate and sort of open them, open the channels yeah.
00:34:51.226 --> 00:35:21.219
so if we were to do the full sequence with any of the organ pairings, and then there's also a general one that just taps into all the meridians, you know you would do whatever you want to do for a warm-up or checking in, and then there's tapping along almost all the meridians and then for the meridians that run through the hands and the arms, there are arm stretches, so that would be a part of whichever direction you decide to go.
00:35:21.219 --> 00:35:25.175
So then that way you're tapping into everything, opening up the possibilities.
00:35:25.175 --> 00:35:28.005
You know what I mean yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:35:28.487 --> 00:35:38.766
So before this, because you had kind of alluded to or mentioned that, this gave me kind of like a purpose, a way to sort of form my sequences before, were you kind of what is the point?
00:35:38.766 --> 00:35:41.179
Not what is the point, but how am I structuring this?
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:42.242
like, what am I doing?
00:35:42.242 --> 00:35:43.143
Yeah, I was do.
00:35:43.143 --> 00:35:48.646
I have a reason why I think we should be doing this, and then we, after that, we do this or is this just what I've always done?
00:35:48.775 --> 00:35:55.789
yeah, maybe they didn't have the brain space to get creative with movements, or it just didn't probably feel aligned and this feels more purposeful.
00:35:56.190 --> 00:36:03.876
And it felt like everybody was kind of teaching the same thing and there's nothing wrong with that, no, but you wanted your own.
00:36:03.876 --> 00:36:09.447
If we're all here, we've all basically learned from the same few people.
00:36:09.447 --> 00:36:15.306
Exactly, and there's nothing wrong with that at all, but for me, to understand it.
00:36:15.306 --> 00:36:16.918
This is what I needed.
00:36:16.918 --> 00:36:23.498
For me to understand why I wanted to do this, followed by this this is the information that I needed.
00:36:23.498 --> 00:36:24.681
It's really cool.
00:36:24.862 --> 00:36:33.376
I'm sure that feels really nice to have and to be able to do something that you want to offer, you want to teach, you want to like, you love yoga and to pair it with something else that you're like.
00:36:33.376 --> 00:36:34.862
This gives it more purpose.
00:36:35.043 --> 00:36:37.601
Probably feels really good and I'm not saying hey.
00:36:37.601 --> 00:36:42.177
If you have back pain, come to tuesday night's class at blah blah blah yeah we'll cure it.
00:36:42.177 --> 00:36:43.280
Don't go to acupuncture.
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:44.041
You know what I mean.
00:36:44.041 --> 00:36:46.695
No, some people can't afford to go to acupuncture.
00:36:46.795 --> 00:36:48.998
It's not cheap it is a very expensive scene.
00:36:48.998 --> 00:36:51.623
How often do people need to normally?
00:36:51.623 --> 00:36:57.938
Because I feel like there's always this thing of okay, we're going to sign you up and you have to commit to X amount of times for it to really sink in.
00:36:57.938 --> 00:36:59.360
What's the story with that?
00:36:59.641 --> 00:37:02.856
It's kind of similar with chiropractic in that sense.
00:37:03.255 --> 00:37:11.996
So when you first come in they do their session, their intake, and it just depends what's going on.
00:37:11.996 --> 00:37:25.605
If it is low back pain, then it might start with, say, two times a week for the next three weeks and then see what's progressed, and then it would back off once a week for the next couple of weeks and you see how it goes.
00:37:25.605 --> 00:37:35.713
Those two types of practices chiropractic and acupuncture are kind of set up where they want you to come 20 times.
00:37:35.713 --> 00:38:03.666
We'll just say 20, I don't really know what the number is, but they want you to come 20 times and the first part of it will be frequently, and then it'll start to back off and then see, if you know, if you're going to the chiropractor, see if your spine's more in alignment, there's a little more movement where you weren't feeling great, and then same thing with the acupuncture, and then they kind of say, come back once a month, or if you're feeling really good, call us if you need a boost.
00:38:03.666 --> 00:38:07.123
Or I mean I go to the chiropractor every three or four weeks.
00:38:08.005 --> 00:38:11.639
Okay now, yeah, Do you feel like at the end of those, like when it's time?
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:18.199
Oh, so let's talk a little bit about tapping because of yeah, we talked about that.
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.048
So what is tapping and how is it helpful?
00:38:21.510 --> 00:38:36.253
So we do the tapping along the meridian pathways so that just brings a little bit of energy to the body, brings a little bit of energy to the pathway, wakes up the chi and also it just makes you feel alive.
00:38:36.373 --> 00:38:38.639
You know what I mean, yeah it makes you feel awake.
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:55.675
I would just say it enlivens the chi and the body what do you know about acupuncture and menstruation and helping the flow, making periods better, perimenopause things in terms of like women's health?
00:38:56.376 --> 00:39:10.764
I was wondering if you wanted to speak to any of that obviously I I'm not an acupuncturist or I don't know everything, but there are definitely points on the body that help with those types of things.
00:39:10.764 --> 00:39:15.010
So example there's one on your ankle that is good for hot flashes.
00:39:15.010 --> 00:39:22.898
The office I worked in she treated tons of people for infertility, menopause symptoms.
00:39:22.898 --> 00:39:27.222
The hot flashes weight gain literally everything.
00:39:27.324 --> 00:39:32.458
I think it's a really good tool to use, especially for those like transitions in life, Pregnancy too.
00:39:32.458 --> 00:39:34.893
Can you get it when you're pregnant?
00:39:34.893 --> 00:39:44.639
I think that what a great tool to be able to help with hot flashes, painful periods, stagnation, infertility all of those things like that is really cool.
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:59.197
Is there anything else that you want to speak to about traditional Chinese medicine or anything that you're like this is really cool, or anything that you've been working with or that you're like man, people knew this about this or how it could benefit that, or anything in your studies that you find interesting?
00:39:59.597 --> 00:40:05.260
I think just that some of these, the most common points, are really instinctual things.
00:40:05.260 --> 00:40:12.876
So example there's a point at the top of the shoulder, along this big muscle, that you know.
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You kind of just press along the top of the shoulder, find a really sensitive point there and then just press in on that point and let that arm relax.
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Maybe you give it a little squeeze.
00:40:24.938 --> 00:40:33.398
And this is a huge stress point which it just seems after I've been told that it's like another validating thing.
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You know, if you're stressed out, you're just you're already squeezing your shoulder.
00:40:36.713 --> 00:40:41.795
You know, if you have a headache, you're massaging your temples.
00:40:42.505 --> 00:40:45.956
I mean that's one of the points for headaches right on the temples.
00:40:45.956 --> 00:40:52.311
So some of these things it just kind of clicked afterwards Some of these things we already know.
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We just don't know that we know it.
00:40:54.257 --> 00:40:55.543
Yeah, exactly, you know what I mean.
00:40:55.543 --> 00:40:57.891
Yeah, exactly, it's like a remembering of these things.
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It's just activating what's already there and giving language to things that we didn't even realize.
00:41:04.733 --> 00:41:07.387
And I think what's cool too is the accessibility.
00:41:07.387 --> 00:41:17.708
You're saying, the fact that you can, you know, hold down that point or do sort of like self-love and body love and things like that, cause you do a lot of like self-massage and I do for myself.
00:41:17.708 --> 00:41:22.650
Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, that is so helpful and it's so good to like connect to your body in that way.
00:41:22.650 --> 00:41:27.565
What have you seen from going to the women's recovery center?
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Have you seen any positives?
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Or do they feel like, oh wow, that was really helpful.
00:41:32.135 --> 00:41:39.416
I'm so glad you have this so I think initially going there it was kind of like when you first get into yoga.
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They had been taught like a physical practice, but then an hour of time they do not want to be moving physically for an hour of time.
00:41:50.518 --> 00:42:08.067
A lot of them have just come from jail or just come from another recovery center like a transfer, or they're homeless and so everything that they've been doing is completely flipped upside down so they don't necessarily need the physical aspects of the practice.
00:42:08.067 --> 00:42:22.077
So the ear seeds became a big part of that and seem to be very greatly appreciated, not just because they feel like they have a little bit of support, but also the physical touch of it.
00:42:22.077 --> 00:42:37.577
You know what I mean, Coming from where they just came from, I mean who knows what being touched meant to them or if people it could be a traumatic thing, or maybe no one had touched them or hugged them or anything in a very long time.
00:42:37.577 --> 00:42:41.896
So just the simple application of the ear seats that's a really good point.
00:42:41.896 --> 00:42:51.295
And then the practices we added in the tapping and we would do this little face massage thing and then really gentle movements.
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Yeah.
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And then sometimes you know they're all revved up and ready to do something.
00:42:56.501 --> 00:43:02.391
So yesterday we did headstands because a couple of them wanted to do a headstand, and that's empowering.
00:43:02.572 --> 00:43:17.931
Yeah, exactly yeah, and fun and playful and light and gets you into your body, because I think that so many times we are really disconnected with our body and it sounds like what you're offering is a way to connect without it having to be like a workout or really hard.
00:43:17.931 --> 00:43:27.007
You know these like subtle little things that then connect us back into our bodies and then make us trust ourselves more and love ourselves more and be like happier people.
00:43:27.007 --> 00:43:28.871
You know, Right, do you do a lot with?
00:43:28.931 --> 00:43:29.873
breath work as well.
00:43:29.873 --> 00:43:33.126
Yes, there is a big part of this.
00:43:33.126 --> 00:43:36.612
That would be like a 30 minute breath work session.
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I don't teach that yet.
00:43:39.115 --> 00:43:52.213
I'm sure at some point I will, but it just feels like when you only have an hour I feel like that would be more of a workshop thing until it started to catch on, because it's not easy.
00:43:52.213 --> 00:43:53.135
The breathwork.
00:43:53.155 --> 00:43:54.585
Yeah, like they call it work for a reason.
00:43:54.605 --> 00:43:55.407
Yeah, what is the?
00:43:55.547 --> 00:44:04.911
pattern that they have them do so there's like alternate nostril breathing and then yes, I hate not.
00:44:04.911 --> 00:44:07.356
I know people really like it, but I hate it.
00:44:07.356 --> 00:44:09.219
My one nostrils always clogged.
00:44:09.259 --> 00:44:13.954
I'm like oh my god, but anyway yeah and then, yeah, a couple of um, there's something else too.
00:44:14.155 --> 00:44:17.855
Another part of it it's it's long if they call it breath work for a reason.
00:44:17.855 --> 00:44:25.782
Yeah, it's work, but you know your breath is a good way to connect, you know, into your body without having to physically be doing a lot.
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Especially when you're like an exhausted or, you know, burnt out or whatever.
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The last thing you want to do is go to a yoga class and work really hard, you know, or whatever and then there's also the part of this where you could make the practice a yin practice, but that too is not simple.
00:44:42.018 --> 00:44:56.521
So with this practice they're also trying to empower you to know your strengths and find that you can stay in these shapes for extended periods of time.
00:44:56.521 --> 00:44:58.485
But five minute camel pose.
00:44:59.088 --> 00:45:05.393
So when I went to this training, I was like there is no way that I will be in camel for five minutes.
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And I didn't while I was there.
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But then I went home and I, you know, I was like I'm just gonna do it, and they have this talk that you do while people are in that shape.
00:45:17.992 --> 00:45:23.367
And I was able to do it one time and then I was like, okay, I know it's possible.
00:45:23.367 --> 00:45:29.972
Now that doesn't mean that I need to do a five minute camel every day, because that's my, that's your least favorite.
00:45:30.012 --> 00:45:33.418
Yeah, yeah, what do you think it is Like?
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Why do you?
00:45:33.766 --> 00:45:37.916
I mean, I know a lot of people, but for you personally, um, do you get like panicky?
00:45:41.065 --> 00:45:45.860
I get kind of lightheaded and also I think it's a big heart opener and that's my spot, that's my, that's where I need the work.
00:45:46.322 --> 00:45:49.650
And knowing that about yourself is very empowering.
00:45:49.650 --> 00:45:51.934
To know that, because do you feel like you need the?
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work because of, I would definitely say, emotional work.
00:45:56.269 --> 00:45:58.474
What emotions do you feel like you struggle with?
00:45:58.474 --> 00:46:09.358
I said my mom doesn't like to talk about emotions at all and when I was growing up, my grandmother was my person.
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She was the person that always made me feel seen, always made me feel heard, loved.
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There might have been one time I can think of when she was not having it, but you know she was it for me, yeah, and she's gone.
00:46:24.896 --> 00:46:36.880
So feel like it's hard for me to be really true about my feelings and trust anyone like opening up, which is literally what camel is.
00:46:37.025 --> 00:46:57.610
Yeah, yes, completely open, completely vulnerable, completely open others and I think a lot of people obviously feel that way too, you know, and that it is hard to be open, but the more that we're vulnerable with other people and the more vulnerable we are, the more it allows other people to be the same way and the more that it allows more like love in our life.
00:46:57.610 --> 00:46:59.213
It's really really difficult.
00:46:59.213 --> 00:47:02.650
What type of talk do they do for five minutes while you're doing that?
00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:09.713
the typical things opening up your chest and breathing into the space but then they start tracing the pathways.
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Bring your awareness to your pinkies.
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Feel the energy in your pinkies and then feel the energy rise up through the sides of your hands.
00:47:19.896 --> 00:47:29.326
Much slower than this, but the sides of your arms to your elbow crease and then into your armpit, into the center of your heart.
00:47:29.326 --> 00:47:36.228
Feel the energy there and it just it's kind of like nidra, yeah, where you're like, yes, doing like a body scan.
00:47:36.469 --> 00:47:37.835
Yeah, it's really cool you're.
00:47:37.835 --> 00:47:39.340
You're offering the between.
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You know tapping and breath work.
00:47:43.010 --> 00:47:52.166
You know just a little bit of breath, you know in your yoga class, nothing, not a 30 minute, but yoga that coincides with the meridians, like what a unique thing to offer.
00:47:52.166 --> 00:47:58.153
And it adds an extra layer of self-care to something that you're already doing to take care of yourself.
00:47:58.153 --> 00:48:00.858
But it's so subtle and you're like he, that's what I'm doing for you guys.
00:48:00.858 --> 00:48:01.978
You don't even know, yeah.
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:08.666
You know, and there's like little tidbits that anybody could take with them, I mean you could do the tapping every day.
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Yeah.
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Just tap up and down the front of your body and then along the sides, and then along the back, just all the way to the top, all the way to the bottom, the arm stretches.
00:48:16.436 --> 00:48:31.507
I mean, so what do you think you're going to do to be full woo-woo?
00:48:31.507 --> 00:48:32.871
So I actually just signed up for reiki training today.
00:48:32.871 --> 00:48:33.672
Oh my gosh, congratulations, or you know?
00:48:33.672 --> 00:48:45.534
Yeah, I had like this amazing conversation with this person last week and I had already considered it, but just from talking to her, I was like I feel like this is my person that you want to learn from like your teacher yeah.
00:48:47.507 --> 00:48:52.813
And I'm contemplating massage school, but none of them are in Winchester.
00:48:52.813 --> 00:48:56.353
Oh yeah, in the commute, yeah, so I'm going to go check out a couple spots.
00:48:56.353 --> 00:49:00.072
There's one in Harrisonburg, there's one in Harpers Ferry.
00:49:00.965 --> 00:49:03.052
That wouldn't be that bad, except that bridge situation.
00:49:03.114 --> 00:49:09.619
Yeah, so I actually don't think you have to cross the bridge I think it's closer to like the car racetrack at some point.
00:49:09.619 --> 00:49:11.144
Okay, so that's not terrible.
00:49:11.144 --> 00:49:13.231
No, um, but we'll see.
00:49:13.231 --> 00:49:22.539
I don't know, I'm not signing up for all the things, because I tend to get that way sometimes where I'm like I'm gonna do this and this and this and this and this and this, and then I'm like, oh crap yeah.
00:49:22.780 --> 00:49:30.405
I have to finish at least one of these first then I guilt and shame myself for not tuning in to the course, or or not validated.
00:49:30.405 --> 00:49:34.893
Yeah, I know but I love signing up.
00:49:34.952 --> 00:49:37.197
I'm like addicted to courses and learning.
00:49:37.197 --> 00:49:50.206
I love it so much, but I mean it going to be really cool just to and having fun with it all and like layering it all on top of each other, Cause the whole time you're talking to you I was like, Ooh, I bet massage really can coincide with this as well.
00:49:50.206 --> 00:49:56.827
But even energy work, like being like what do like chakras and you know meridians and chi, like what do they all have in common?
00:49:56.827 --> 00:50:05.889
And're gonna learn that and that's gonna be so cool and to be able to offer that to people, yeah, it actually gets to be fun yeah, and it is fun, you know, and you're helping people and learning.
00:50:06.271 --> 00:50:07.193
Oh, I love it.
00:50:07.313 --> 00:50:09.206
Yeah, is there anything else that you would like to.
00:50:09.206 --> 00:50:12.943
I mean, I could tell you about some books yeah, tell us if you want to know more.
00:50:12.983 --> 00:50:16.971
Yeah the science of self yoga is who I did the training through.
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She has four books and they're all available on Amazon, but it's Dr Rose.
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Aaron E-R-I-N Got it.
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And then this book, meridian's Maps of the Soul, this one's by Mike Mandel and this book.
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I listened to the audio book twice through, wow, and then I was like I just want to buy the book now so I can flip to the page and be like what did he say?
00:50:43.456 --> 00:50:44.257
My jaw hurts.
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I should do what.
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This one breaks it down Basically the principles of the organs.
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This one says the lung meridian, the big yes to life.
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Am I able to say yes loudly and clearly?
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Do I have a positive view on myself and my future?
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Do I find it easy to be open to new things?
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Do I take up space that I'm due?
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Do I observe and respect boundaries?
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And then if you answer any of these questions and you're like, oh, I need to work on that, then you just read about wellness.
00:51:14.666 --> 00:51:27.050
Yeah, it's pretty cool and this kind of stuff is so fun because it's a lifelong learning, because I know sometimes I can get overwhelmed by, like I want to know everything there is to know about this and I want to embody it all.
00:51:27.050 --> 00:51:31.989
I feel like with these types of learning, it's like years and years of layering and being like oh, that's right.
00:51:31.989 --> 00:51:35.036
Didn't I read that one thing that one time about the lungs?
00:51:35.036 --> 00:51:39.893
Maybe I should go look at that, because this is kind of coming up now and then it it becomes like a practice in your life.
00:51:39.893 --> 00:51:40.273
You know.
00:51:40.273 --> 00:51:42.699
So I think if anybody's listening and they're like that sounds like a lot.
00:51:42.864 --> 00:51:45.893
You just take a little bit of time for what you have space for.
00:51:45.893 --> 00:51:47.577
Yeah, audio book.
00:51:47.577 --> 00:51:50.414
It opened up a lot of doors for me.
00:51:50.414 --> 00:51:57.974
Talk about the meridians a little bit in a practice, and then someone will come up and introduce themselves to me and be like oh, I know this about the meridians.
00:51:57.974 --> 00:51:58.996
I teach this.
00:51:58.996 --> 00:52:00.739
I do reflexology.
00:52:00.739 --> 00:52:04.391
I do this, and then I'm like okay, now I have all these new best friends.
00:52:04.391 --> 00:52:08.989
Yeah, that I want to learn from, know more about what they know yeah, you know what I mean.
00:52:09.110 --> 00:52:11.376
Yeah, reflexology is cool too.
00:52:11.376 --> 00:52:13.688
Could you go to school just for reflexology?
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I think so, because that would be cool.
00:52:15.532 --> 00:52:16.333
I love that.
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Find your people, I know, and then it creates community and it's I mean, and it's such like a woman's way, if you will like, as women like coming together and all learning from each other and communally like it doesn't feel like we're arm wrestling for attention.
00:52:29.626 --> 00:52:32.047
It's like oh, I have a thing that I know about.
00:52:32.208 --> 00:52:35.672
You have a thing, they have a thing, and then you all just I mean, share it.
00:52:35.672 --> 00:52:37.793
I mean, hello, that's Know, your Flow podcast.
00:52:37.793 --> 00:52:40.376
Hello, that's what we're doing here.
00:52:40.376 --> 00:52:42.818
But yeah, no, I know exactly what you mean.
00:52:42.818 --> 00:52:48.271
It's so cool and I love that because it's not like you were saying earlier in the podcast.
00:52:48.271 --> 00:52:55.827
You and your friends were all just hanging out drinking, which, like really and we all go through that at some point, whether it's getting high together, drinking or doing something else.
00:52:55.827 --> 00:52:59.052
It's not productive, you know, it could even be bitching around or whatever.
00:52:59.052 --> 00:53:02.717
And now this is actually for the greater good of everyone.
00:53:02.757 --> 00:53:18.952
We're not just you know, it's like you have things that we collectively talk about and share, and it's not just drinking and bullshit our coping mechanisms have grown and blossomed into something beautiful now, when we're bored and feeling weird, we just overly research.
00:53:18.952 --> 00:53:21.998
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
00:53:21.998 --> 00:53:23.166
Well, thank you.
00:53:23.166 --> 00:53:31.068
What is your Instagram if people are like, hey, I want to do a yoga class and where do you do them and all that stuff, if you want to share that?
00:53:31.088 --> 00:53:34.476
so it's mandyloyoga for the Instagram.
00:53:34.476 --> 00:53:44.289
I teach a couple classes at Valley Health Wellness Center, and then I teach a class on Monday nights at Purple Fern on the walking mall.
00:53:44.590 --> 00:53:47.257
Are the yoga classes at Valley Health included in the membership?
00:53:47.257 --> 00:53:48.646
Yes, that's cool.
00:53:49.228 --> 00:53:52.034
And then you can also become a member for a day.
00:53:52.034 --> 00:53:56.974
If you just wanted to like, come check the place out and you could take as many classes as you want.
00:53:56.974 --> 00:53:59.871
You can swim in the pool, you can get the sauna, you can take a shower there.
00:53:59.871 --> 00:54:00.574
It's pretty cool.
00:54:00.594 --> 00:54:02.469
Whatever you want, I think Valley Health is the gym.
00:54:02.469 --> 00:54:03.472
Yeah, that's where I would go.
00:54:03.472 --> 00:54:04.313
All right, mandy.
00:54:04.313 --> 00:54:06.144
Well, thank you, thank you.