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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get ready to talk to me This show is brought to you by the makeery the podcast network for makers You ready all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's up everybody and welcome to knife talk podcast the knife talk podcast literally the number one knife related podcast on as Jeff would love to say this German festive plan are you kidding me what the leaveable go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, we're here to keep you company in the shop on your commute, wherever you might be listening to us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are here for you, make you laugh, help you maybe learn a thing or two, answer your questions, troubleshoot your dilemmas in the shop and in life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And more than anything, we're just here to have a good time and help distract us from some of the fucking craziness in the world right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But without
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[SPEAKER_02]: Without delay, I would love to introduce our friend Jeff Fader, Fader Knives.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is a great guy, and I'm excited to tie that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to chat with you today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, our man, Mr. Craig Lockwood of Chop Nimes, he's just, he's living his best life right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a pretty good reason for not being here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's living his best life right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pumped for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to have him back on to talk more about what he's got going on in life If he can even talk about it Something that's pretty cool, but it's great little it's a little uh he's he's playing his card club cards close to his best
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you guys living is just living a dream and I don't think we can say much more of that But he will be back and I'm happy for him because it's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a lot going on and You have what like fucking two months ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was basically crippled right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: and now he's just out there fucking taking the world by the fucking ball sack and swinging it around so we're in the earlys yeah I'm happy to do it anyways we like to start by recapping the last well I guess it's been a cup or at least for me a couple weeks yeah uh what's been going on Jeff once you come up
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's everything and everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First of all, thank you for bringing up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have to say this again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have to bring up the fact that we are the number one knife-related podcast that's surely best implemented.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In two weeks ago, I got an email from a podcasting resource that said me and email saying that they have the top 25 knife-related podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and we were firmly number one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I had posted about it a few years ago and we were like number six or number, you saw number 10 or six or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was in like the handmade category though, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't really research the latter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The last one was a number of years ago, but we sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We cracked number one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and I'm proud of it and you know the funny thing is is I've always the whole thing is I'll be honest with you, you know Howard Stern used to refer to himself as the king of all media and it was like self-proclaimed and he just said I just started saying it and after a while people just started and I've done that too for the past while I do believe we are I do I my heart of hearts I know we're the best knife-flated podcast in the streaming festival but after saying it for all this time all of a sudden we get the credit and funny enough
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[SPEAKER_04]: get a message from our man Ryan over co-clean blades, Ryan is a great guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to the hustling grind podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Those are good dudes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You've got to have been on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a fan, they're good guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Ryan says the message and he goes, send me the, I need to see the research.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I need to see like more of that list.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, I sent him the list and he goes, you know, some of those, some of those are, you know, some of those podcasts aren't even, you know, recording anymore or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't, I don't even need to do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was I like to look at the Google search on the best knife related podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and he sent me a message, he sent me a screenshot, it was knife talk number one, hustling grind number two, and I was, he's like, I like this one better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, I like it fine too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's, he's nice, he said, and you're still number one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So many thanks to Ryan, thanks to listeners.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh dude, it was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a great little feeling that like, you know, listen, some days, some of us isn't here, some days, it's not, but we've, you know, we're consistent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We did take last week off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, summertime too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's everything's kind of crazy and we needed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But this, we're recording on September 10th.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I had a tomorrow, well, Friday will be the 25th anniversary of November of September 11th.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was in, and I've talked about it to Blue and the head.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure you know what he means to talk about anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I was in, I was on the BQE in the second plane.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We saw that we witnessed the second plane hit the towers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were in New York the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was really a terrible thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just finished recording the full bass podcast with two of my closest friends.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One, my friend, Eric, we go to Nick's games with he and then what's high school together, and another good friend of mine, Henrik.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he was in New York with us, and it was a really emotional,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Part B was a emotional conversation just because of, you know, it always is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even 25 years years, you can never, you truly can, you never forget it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And even with the death of my sister, the death of my father, 9-11 was the worst day of my life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's not even a question that yet, the terror, the chaos, everything it was, it was unforgiving, it was, you know, I'm never forget it and something like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we were kind of trying to talk about the fact that, you know, 25 years has passed and there's, you know, you still need an oral tradition
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[SPEAKER_04]: people forget people totally forget so we had a really good conversation just funny it wasn't funny it was emotion it wasn't funny it was emotional there was one part was funny i said i said to Eric i said if you've been down to the nine eleven museum and he goes yeah i've been down a few times and we're getting very emotional about it and i said well maybe you and i can go down there i haven't gone down there yet i've just kind of really really kick my heels not wanting to go
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was, yeah, Jeff, well, we'll go down there and I said because we're never going to get to Nick's game again because Nick's are too expensive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we just had, we try to keep it light and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the funny thing is, is...
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[SPEAKER_04]: business has been so wild and I've been doing so much Instagram stuff that I got immediately went from the feeling of you know feeling good about this podcast about my 11 to being irritated I commenters on Instagram so yeah Jesus over there well it's just it's annoying because like I've recently been getting a lot of really good
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[SPEAKER_04]: response, especially for my customers about seeing more of the process and the people the Tony and Allison who worked for me are all like, more of this is really great, it's really, we're getting a lot of, it's great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every once in a while, somebody will say something, and I always just wonder, what kind of human being is this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like one guy was like, there's a couple of different types of people, there's a one person who really gives a shit and they'll say whatever they want to say and then there's another group a person that will say something really kind of putting you on the defensive and then when you respond, they just walk away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like they throw a grenade in the room and then they talked, you know, I did a thing on Stabilized wood.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This guy told me what I'm doing wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I explained base off of what he said, what I'm doing right and it's correct.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, you got to keep it, you know, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm marketing on the, you know, you know, your synchrysis.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I said exactly, I do exactly what he did does plus more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't maybe even say it in the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and then he left so all of a sudden just like what why would you do that why would you just like instead of say you know and then then say you know you then you know you don't say all I guess I understand and then you know sounds good you just say something that kind of puts
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[SPEAKER_04]: A negative light on what I'm doing, and then leave, you know, and, you know, it just doesn't make a sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's another guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at some right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's just like, it's, it's non-contributing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's non-contributing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's non-contributing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can just contribute to zero.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's one guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the even the point?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's one guy who wrote that knife might be sharp and everything looked at, but...
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at that one right now, but it's ugly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's ugly, but to me, it's nothing but ugly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I, so it's just like your thoughts though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What is my response?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your response is great to hear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have the time and energy because here's another thing because on that same real the sum of the guy I wrote something about the way I'm doing it and he was unrelenting, unrelenting and I would explain what I'm doing and then he would tell me what I'm doing wrong and then I would tell him how I'm adjusting what he's talking about and then he would tell me what I'm doing wrong more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I said, well, here, you know, I basically said, listen, I've been doing these knives for 20 for 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've never had a problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I stand behind everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I did have a problem, if there was a problem, I'd stand behind it 100%.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't had a problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No one's sending it back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they're working great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I've used mine for 10 years as fine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't good enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No matter what you say, it isn't good enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I am obsessed writing, listen, I'm not going to argue with any more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have the day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what I want to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't have time for this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the guy goes, well I'm not trying to be argumentative.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you're trying to make it seem as though you're trying to be smurch my integrity dude.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I just like leave it alone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it makes especially a knife person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand why you'd go on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And someone who doesn't know me, I don't really know them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand what the need to just be unhelpful.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or cast aspersions or cast a negative light on another person's small business.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I mean, and he says it, I think he thinks he's helping, but like this is a conversation you have privately with somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is so dumb, but I love like multiple times actually,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to fight, I don't, I feel like this happened today and I'm dealing with all this other stuff and trying to get stuff done in the shop and all this and I'm looking on getting notifications or whatever and I'm like, well how much do I want to put into and I'm thinking of myself, all right, well at least I have the podcast, you know, if I'm going to fight, I'm going to not for fight freak, I'm going to pay here, I get paid here, here's a
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like I don't really have the the ban with to because a lot of these guys also want you to write them the magna card You know, they they're expecting me I'm expecting I want your response on my desk with an I mean it doesn't even matter no, what up no matter what I say it don't care
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that particular guy was just like, you know, I told him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I even said to him, I'm like, listen, I've never had a problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he said, well, just because you have good customer service doesn't mean you have to be lazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, what are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who said I'm being lazy?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like, I don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I wanted to be insulted that my favorite insult was going to be, I don't need to get electric to buy us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's talking real good guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that would have been like that's the one thing I wanted to do but it just doesn't make sense it's just like I don't this is not I don't want to be married to this guy yeah it makes me wish that we had a segment
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just like, I used to listen to a lot more radio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things that you should do like the shock jack, they, especially like on the hip hop radio stations around here, is they'll do a thing, a segment called the second date update.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's where they, where somebody writes in and says, hey, I went on this date with this person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't heard back from them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is their contact information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you reach out to them for me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the radio station calls that person,
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[SPEAKER_02]: person does not know that they're recording the pot or actually sometimes they do say yeah and they then they keep they have the conversation going and like oh by the way the other person's on the line and they'd be listening this whole time and then they have then they hash it out and I would love
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just like in my brain I'm like fuck I wish we could do that and be like set it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'd be like listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just get on the phone and talk and and you record it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then In this particular situation you're talking about I don't think the guy was a bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We ended it like we ended it in a relatively
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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, peaceful manner to a certain degree.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I think that I give a lot of credit to our listeners, especially those who English is not their first language.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have nothing but respect and anyone who speaks more than one language, I salute you 100%.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it doesn't mean you're smart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It means a lot of things, but it doesn't mean you're a smart person, and I think that this guy, this particular situation, just he made it seem like, well, I don't mean to be argumentative, and I'm like, I'm not going to argue with you, and he's like, you know, he was just trying to teach me something, and I'm not good with force teaching.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm terrible with it, frankly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have anything that sounds like it's the beginning stages of a lecture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, I turn, I met a more precise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I turn into some, I turn into a fucking, I don't do well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not articulate either.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, me being angry about it is not thoughtful.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just very unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like you are a witty person though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I struggle with my whole life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've always been like after a confrontation or some sort of whatever negative interaction, I play it back and I'm like, oh, shit, it said that, oh, I should have said this, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never, but my brain in those situations, my brain goes completely blank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am the worst at confrontation and the reason why is because when I was younger I had a stutter and if I had any type of slight argument with my father he would make fun of my stutter and it was crazy that was like spitted out Jeff actually I have a very funny story the only time I ever got one over on someone
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[SPEAKER_04]: Was you know, I was never good at the putdowns like even in school.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was never good I was always like and I would say something and it was sounds stupid or it wasn't funnier It wasn't quick-witted and I It was it was really in it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I owe it to faculty father didn't prepare me to get my balls broken and then the time I said anything I could hear him
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I would ruin me, you know, spit it out, spit it out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So when I was much younger, I was probably in the fourth grade.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had a fifth grade, I had to take the city bus from school to home.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm on the city bus, and you know a small bag of Doritos, I probably have an X-Men comic and something like that, and I'm just minding on business.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Three kids from my school come over to me and they start breaking my balls Okay, they start like joking around with me, and then they start and it gets to the point in the beginning I was like kind of smiling and everything that and then all of a sudden they're getting slightly vicious Yeah, it's maybe they're talking about the way to my mother or they're talking you know They're doing the stuff that's like, you know what I don't know boy school kids do I'm not under percent sure, but it was really like it got very uncomfortable
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One guy was so quick-witted and he just was like he was tying me up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was he was I mean I just had never chance and another guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had not like I he said something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're all laughing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One guy says one thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Another guy says the third guy starts saying something and I'm sitting there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just getting like I'm just they're just torturing me, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this guy is starting getting ready because it's his turn now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's his turn to take you around.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sitting there trying my fucking X-Men comic and he's
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[SPEAKER_04]: and this kid is going uh uh uh and he's like they're all in a group and he started to say something and he started to stutter and I don't know what came over me and I think dude can you get it out?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got as my stoppers in three blocks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said get it out now because I'm getting off of three blocks dog get it out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like come on and then all of a sudden they got quiet and then I'm just like come on spit it out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna kick my ass, kick my ass.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to wait for you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you crazy?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I get home, don't think much of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then the next day, the head of the school, head of the middle school brings me to his room.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to talk to you, I got a report from this boy's mother that you were making fun of his stutter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, what the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, this kid was on the bus and you, we've been working with this kid for years and you've cost him and he was so upset he didn't want to come in the school today and I said, wait a second, I'm sitting on the bus alone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And three of them came up to me and they were making fun of me and they were making fun of me They were killing me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were roasting me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then the last guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know anything I don't know a special knees.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know as I'm fucking fighting for my life here I am fighting for my life here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got the Doritos one hand the X-Men comic and that's all I want That's my happiness right there
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[SPEAKER_04]: 5th grade my parents already divorced.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm already slightly miserable.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to read this fucking X-Men comic and piece and get my kid get killed fighting for my life on the M1o4 headed down Lexington Avenue and I said to him when I said to him I'm like grab those other kids those kids were there
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they brought into the other kids and thank God these kids where they were they did the right thing they said They said, oh you mind this boy is home alone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's crying because you guys were he Jeff was making fun of a starter And the kid who is with him said, yeah, we were killing that we were killing Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean we were roasting him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were You're knocking us we're knocking his teeth in more killing him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not physically, but like verbally.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were roasting me
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[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, we started it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I give this kid a lot of credit for being like, this is what happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, because I didn't call them in, I didn't say, you know, take, you know, these guys are making fun of me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I went about my business on the rat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This kid told his mom, his mom called the school.
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[SPEAKER_04]: call me in and I'm like, I said to the kids who the two boys too, I'm like, I didn't say any of this, your boy, your boy, he's like, yeah, that guy's a bit of a pussy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it was only time I ever got one over anybody and I ended up getting in trouble and it really made me even worse at roasting people in real life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think every call I have in a conversation with
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[SPEAKER_02]: God, I can't remember, I think it might have been with like a therapist or something, just kind of like recounting what life was like, I have to go around it, because I actually got bullied quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Through, especially through a middle school and somehow high school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, recounting how I just couldn't ever think of things to say until, you know, after the fact.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the therapist is like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, you know what I think that is, and I was like, no, she's like part of it was like, you know, the whole fighter flight freeze found kind of situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a tendency to freeze in those situations, but she was also like, you're also not a person who's thinking about how to go and affect somebody's life in a shitty negative way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You are not expanding your mental energy, hurting, trying to figure that out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got better shit to do, and I was like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, guess so it's a hundred percent right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not you're not your job.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's not your job Or the things you care about right is not defending you from your mother mom jokes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like Yeah, I mean, that's just I mean, I got other things to do You know, you're that is actually never even thought about that that is a hundred percent true some people I mean like here perfect example in the Instagram
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[SPEAKER_04]: My intention is to get people to the website and show them what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It isn't to argue with other knife makers who may or may or may not know what the fuck they're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like a waste of my energy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then at the same time, some people are naturally good at fighting online, and some people aren't, and I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I thank you, uh, I'm not going to argue with you have a good days.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's lame.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It sucks for you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not really at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like witty at all at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: At all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just so it was like this sad set.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I could take my ball at least.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But in the same time, it is effective, it's been effective in two situations where it's just like, I'm not going to argue with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can't be funny, you can't be clever, you can't be, you know, it just incites them more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you were telling that story, remind me of the episode of Seinfeld, we're George, like, he'd be in board meetings, because he worked at whatever, like, Yankee Stadium, and they'd be in meetings, and somebody in the meeting was always busing his fucking chops.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then what he said, well, I'll tell you the joke.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry for erupting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Instead, there's all this shrimp cocktail on the table.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's just, you know, George is the eating all the shrimp.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this guy says, hey, George, the sea called.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They want the shrimp back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And everyone's sort of laughing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he goes back to see what should I, what should I have said?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he says comes up with the jerk stored.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He goes, yeah, he's a well, the jerk stored called.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they, and they want you back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he concocks this whole guy who the guy who immediately said the ocean call they want their throwback.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He working for tire company and George decides, I'm going to figure out a way to make this tire company have some connection with Yankee Stadium just to get in the office of this guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bring this giant.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is giant bowl of shrimp and he starts going he starts saying let's see how many sure if I can fit my mouth he's trying to egg the guy and do the same thing right and then he and then he goes hey George the ocean called They want the shrimp back and he stands up straight proud ready to enter the videos well the jerk store called
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they won't you back and then the guy goes, well that's okay, you're the best sale or something like You're the best product and they were sort of laughing and he was, well I had sex with your wife You know And so it turns to be because his life's in a coma.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The whole thing terrible Is that I forgot about that point So fabulous Fucking good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's I was so funny
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I will say as a person who struggles in those situations, not that I necessarily want to be shitty, but like in general like being out in the world and being alive and being witty and funny, it's always great, especially amongst like friends and stuff like that, but I often find myself like with nothing to say, but I will say when I listen, when I'm like listening to a lot of comedians, like I like I fucking love Bilber.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Builder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Builder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just got like he's just the way like He sees and thinks about the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny and so like Following and listening and watching comedians things on like whatever they got specials or listening to their podcast or something like that or even like or Sometimes like some of these roasts of celebrities are rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they got some good ones in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got some singers and so
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, uh, I, I will say that it is definitely helped my repertoire and not even necessarily copying what somebody's saying exactly, but just like trying to shift the way my brain thinks about the world kind of more in a comedic way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that when I am in a situation and I am like, I want to contribute something funny or just like, then I, then I can do it a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But otherwise, I just sit there like a fucking,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's staying on a shoe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, yeah, got nothing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It sucks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It sucks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It sucks to not be able to perform in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know who's the best at it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you just, you know who I'm going to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who's the un, you know, unspoken, unspoken, best at it is January, honey.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh John John's awesome son said is like legitimately not only is he's he's he's not too cutting he's cutting enough but he is so fast and so hilarious and yeah there's there's there's it's just surrender he's surrender because he's like you're never gonna I can't compete with him yeah I couldn't possibly he's the greatest of all time in terms of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: God damn that guy's funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's very funny.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He listens to this again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's back on he sends me back on the key.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's back on the key.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's back on the night talk train.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He listen to this
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[SPEAKER_02]: So how was your week?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you one of the highlights like literally highlight of the last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was getting her I so I got a suede for my birthday Also some shit like that and I've just I'm slowly getting like getting a dial-in figuring it out getting the timing stuff If people aren't familiar with what what this means essentially it's it's what's called a a suede or an immersion circulator so
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[SPEAKER_02]: And basically it's a hot tub for food, but it's an alternative approach to slow cooking food.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's way I've been using it is essentially like a reverse sear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm cooking slow cooking the meat up to like 130 degrees Fahrenheit, maybe just below that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that when I'm ready to
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[SPEAKER_02]: I put it on the grill or on a cast iron pan and somehow and I've just basically I seared it off because you've slow cooked that you don't even need to rest the steak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You seared off, you get a good char or whatever you want to get on there with your seasonings or whatnot and you put it on your fucking plate and go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So my move this last week was I got this pizza oven and I was like I'm a genius I'm going to use this pizza oven like a like a salamander and a restaurant A restaurant so essentially like a salamander is where it's a broiler She's like that's all the fucking thing does it just broils or shit out of stuff and they're hot So I was like I'll get these flames looking across the top of this pizza oven I'll put the stakes on a sheet pan
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[SPEAKER_02]: with a pair of tongs and I'm just going to slide that thing in and out, check it and flip and rotate whatever I got to do and then it'll be great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm out there trying to just get it lit up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This thing has been super reliable for a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've had it for like five and I've got the.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and it's a multi-fuel, so it's got a spot in the back where you can typically put in like pellets or charcoal or wood or whatever, but I haven't set up for a propane right now because we got a propane adapter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm trying to light it up and this fucking thing's not going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, what is going on?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got it open.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the propane's running.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and no one likes it all this shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot figure out what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then finally.
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[UNKNOWN]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm looking down in the fucking thing when it does this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I see just like the slightest flash of flame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I pull my face back, but not fast enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still, I'm not like right in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: eight inches away or so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the top like the front door off the pizza oven goes flying off until the day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And all this shit is just like, oh my god, what did I do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it made a loud kind of sound.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like a forge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could, and then I started to smell the smell of like cinch hair, and I was like, oh, so I go inside and look in the mirror, I have the thing off, I go back into the house, I look in the mirror and I got my eyebrow and it's not like scorched enough thing, but like just like the tips, the tips, whists, so I got it, I got a nice, woosh, the other day, wow, it's coyote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh fuck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just that just reminded me I went and took my kid to the Wiley Cowardy versus Acme movie that just came up with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine, but my kid has spent very little time watching Looney Tunes or Mary Melodies or Eddie that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he knows the characters, but he doesn't understand how they interact with each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was losing his shit, the whole, all that's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He thought it was hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I got more enjoyment out of watching my kid pissing his pants laughing from watching the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually watching the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because the movie is, is that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're in that stage though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got to take into the bad movies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was at that stage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remind my daughter all the time all the shitty movies I used to have.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The shitty movies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're the less able to eat your movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're a movie of all time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Terrible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But otherwise everything else is good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, I needed last week or I kind of made the push for needing some time in the shop last week because I'm I've been kind of in a Appentially and so yeah, I got in the shop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got some stuff done so hopefully I'll get things moving out of the shop now
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[SPEAKER_02]: piece some knives and I just got like a little bunker and I got like another like a line knife and it's nothing crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like a random pattern thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like just underneath or eight, almost an eighth of an inch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One, I'm sorry, eight inches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I've been, I've been in the shop, I've been productive, fucking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't etched a blade, actually in kind of a long time, and I just went back to my trusty old process, and holy shit, it came out perfect.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's good to try.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good, awesome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because we have some questions about that, but I actually wanted to remember, I wanted to tell you that I had a major setback that thought we could talk about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't a major setback,
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[SPEAKER_04]: but it was enough that it was annoying and it's all taken care of, but this was something that like doesn't happen very often.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I got, oh, we got, I got all sorts of stuff going on, but this setback was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I have, I use TotalBoad and they send me this dispenser, which is absolutely fabulous.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little, you know, it's a little impumpeted.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It pumps for both the hardener and the regular epoxy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: right and I didn't really so we put together what I try to do is at the end of the day we want to have some knives glued up by the end of the day so we can start kind of cutting you know carving them up or sanding them down the next day so I want to do okay I don't want to do the I don't want to do the glue ups in the morning I want to do the glue ups in the afternoons so well by the next morning everything's ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So every day, Patrick's here who's been fabulous, we'll talk more about him later.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We make sure that everything's glued up in the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We leave in the next morning coming grind and I'm all ready to go for Patrick's ready to do the next stage by the time he gets in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I cut in one morning we put together four and I lifted one up and I was going to unclamp him and I realized it was really gooey.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it was super gooey.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't close being said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I looked and I was like, well what the fuck happened and maybe the epoxy's older.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What happened?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe it wasn't stirred right or maybe I'm thinking about it and I went over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to the dispenser and I lifted up the taps and then I gave it a pump and it realized that the levels of the hardener were below the blind so the last bus the hardener didn't come out the hardener didn't come out so it was good because it was I was able to I was able to kind of diagnose the problem and luckily and not enough hardener went in
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[SPEAKER_04]: that I was able to remove the corebies and we removed the scales and then just spent the morning cleaning everything cleaning every other residual, glock up to redo them all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was like the whole set or was it just four knives, four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was in the end of the world, but it was like, you know, I just, I never, I never checked that, I never, I never, I never, I never, you,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just didn't, I don't think to that often to just check that chamber.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was, we had been going crazy for the past three months and I just, just evaded me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I totally made it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm glad it happened because it was like, one of those things were like, well, is the epoxy bed or did we make a mistake?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we put too much dye in and it was able to kind of like diagnose a situation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it was a setback, but it was like a good setback because,
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were able to figure it out, and nothing was lost.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were able to reuse the Corbyball, so he set the Corbyball, so the thing of acetone, we cleared all the, I mean, I just finished this morning.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just finished re-sanding them all today, and everything's in good shape, but it was really kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The idea of these little setbacks that you're not counting on happening, but they happen, and then how do you deal it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I wonder if it would make sense to pop a hole in there and basically come up with like a stick or a dipstick kind of situation, but not like a dipstick where the oils on the outside like when you check your right car, but more like if you put a straw into like your soda drink right and then you cover the tip of it and you pull it back up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to hold water in the straw at the height of that liquid and I wonder if you could do something similar to that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to check it more often every so often because that's never happened before.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So like that's never happened before and the thing is is like he would have noticed it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it was almost like the last pump or something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were a lot was going on the shop and you would have kind of noticed it when it came out, but it was one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was my, I didn't, you know, I took it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd take it and it was my responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I should have just, I should just check, I mean, I feel the whole fucker up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're gonna, you'll be, we'll be okay, till you're, you are a good employer because I don't know how many, like, I feel like a lot of bosses want to just pass the book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, dude, you fucked it up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, I've, I've been in positions of leadership for a long time besides Fader Nives.
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[SPEAKER_04]: doesn't do it, and when it comes down to it, a lot of people don't take responsibilities for their actions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And when it comes down to it, it's like, I own my old boss at the last mental shop I had.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says, I don't care if you make a mistake once.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really care if you make it the the same mistake twice, but if you make the third tone and kick your ass, you know, and it's like it gets to the point where it's better to be encouraging.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are unable to to learn these things, but at the same time when people
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[SPEAKER_04]: that concept of blaming somebody all the time when it comes down to it I've always felt strongly about taking responsibility and a lot of it's because a lot of people my family never took responsibility for anything and he used to drive me crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I would take responsibility for everything which was badness, too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But like in a situation where you're trying to teach someone or you're in there together it becomes a good learning experience because you both can now recognize that these
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but yeah yelling is bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't I don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't work with people anyway And it's a patrice a great guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So Patrick is he's got a company called riverstone sharpening and he's He does he does he was he was he worked in the film business and then he started doing he got a sharpening truck
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's got this great sharpening truck and he does pop ups every so often and the truck is filled.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It looks great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And every so often he goes and does the farmer's market here, does the farmer's market there and he loves doing it and he reached out to me nine months ago and then wanted to learn how to do this and he's been with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Since about nine months he's been fabulous and actually funny enough, you were talking about stuff and I've been helping him, he's been really great here and I mean I couldn't be happier.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just actually, yesterday, I said, you know, maybe one day and I have a pop-up and I'll come with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll come with you and I'll help you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we'll do some Instagram stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll do some social media and the Hudson Valley and I'll help you for the day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he's excited and I'm gonna go sharpen knives for the day with him in his truck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be rolling with the toy Mac or he's like, hi, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, yes, I'm going to bring the toy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to bring three Tormex with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and we're going to, and we're going to like, Kormex Sharp and she pulls knives on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's, he's moving at, he's holding us in that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He, he said he'd known doing like 69's, uh, you know, in four our period, which is a lot in a farmer's market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to go in there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to like see, see what we can do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, uh, that actually reminds me
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[SPEAKER_04]: These guys are awesome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't fall around.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, these are going to make you a better knife maker if you're looking to be a better knife maker in the sharpening stage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So tourmic.com.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But let's, um,
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's anything else you want to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got questions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been getting a lot of messages.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, this first one is from our GSL, Paul Janssen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, cost-effectiveness question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably going to be moving and we'll have, sorry, and we'll have to move my shop set up with me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The property has a couple outbuildings, but none of them have power, and aren't really set up to be a shop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're already going to be doing some renovation slash addition work on the house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So adding a shop space could be done spending, could be done pending the cost of the rest of the housework.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it better to spend more and build a dedicated shop space or spend less to get power to one of the buildings and try to make the best of the existing space?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What would you do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, well, it depends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would, it would depend on the space, I think, and also kind of what the demand would be because if you turn, if it's a small
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[SPEAKER_02]: like you had a shed, you have a shed at your place, but it effectively is like what like an eight by eight or eight by ten or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like a space like that is a great like grinding room, drill press, like dirty space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you can, I would
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I had a smaller space like that, I would just dedicate it for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not that hard to run a line out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it would depend on how far it is from the house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to run just like whatever, a 20, maybe yeah, like 20 amp, 15 amp circuit out to that to have power out there for whatever you're using out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it's, I don't know, if it's a bigger space,
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[SPEAKER_02]: then I would probably do a little bit more work to make it more dedicated, especially if it's got a concrete footing of some sort or pad, not footing, concrete pad of some sort because that could be a dedicated space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That way for me, like my concern would always be the cost of building a new structure and what other kind of bullshit might come along with that, especially from getting permits and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: versus if you're doing modifications to something that already exists, I think are less typically less that invasive, I guess, in regards to that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know, to me, it would really depend on what the space looked like and what I felt comfortable doing in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if I had to build something completely new, I would probably build kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, extend a garage off the back of the side where it makes sense and just and then and then pay back off the power that's already there in the building
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How we found out that you can get a shipping container for like $2,300 a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: For sure, 40 yards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you put that on like if you put that on peer blocks, then it's kind of considered a non-permanent structure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's probably a lot more flexibility in regards to what you do with that than if you were to do like poor new pad and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can you imagine the initial sound of being in a shipping container and turning a grinder on?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's loud.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be bad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be the worst thing ever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be even a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking like a grinding disk to cut like a whole out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you need your hearing protection.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know if I hear him per day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you got to take your head off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you're, I don't think you're, I just, I, in my mind, the sound and the vibrations.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a no go for me, but.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and maybe that may, maybe like actually an outdoor situation, like a lean tube would be better for, if you're doing super loud shit like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because even like a chop, like, and you mentioned a chopsa, oh, and it should be to day in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, terrible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Metal working is the worst for sound.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's legitimately metal working in general.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like kind of like the sounds of hell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you are going to do something, because I've considered like the idea of like going to future on my own piece of property, like putting together a shipping container kind of shop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Airflow is going to be crucial in those shipping containers, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So make sure you take that into consideration as well, because you're going to need it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, everything's going to get covered in steel dust, but also just like the what is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: just like the steel dust that floats that is small enough that it's floating in the air it is going to you you want that out of that space so whatever you can do to make sure that you're cycling that air out the better and you put your anvil in there don't get a couple times oh my god dude you sound like you're something like you're on a sex full and operator right now
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a SATA.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a metal or a SATA's cup of magic and being a chip indicator.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm turning the grinder on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a SATA.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a SATA's phone call station for metal workers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now we're here with the envelope and we're going to hit it and you're going to have no ear protection.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It sounds a hell, but you know, the funny thing is I was thinking about this in any time I've ever had an opportunity for a space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I always like to make do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My first shop was making do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every, my basement, but actually going to, I'm going to read, I'm redoing now as a painting studio.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't wait to talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then, um, any space I've ever had I've never built from scratch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've always been like, I can make it happen with this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love using things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't want to necessarily buy new, like all the wood for my shop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all like found stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's something about just like, let's just get it operational because we need to get moving as opposed to worrying about like, you know, whether or not this is,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Three-quarter, birch, what good one side?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't need to worry about this, but I need to get my ass moving, you know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, part of me is part of me would probably even like the charm of, you know, making that little space that you're not crazy about work and then just run some, one-some-wires out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My personal suggestion is out of magic and if you're moving and don't think you're moving by yourself, you're probably moving, I would think that you're maybe you're moving with your,
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're a girlfriend of your wife, it's like that maybe work on the house first and then keep the shop second.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's my opinion, but, you know, what do I want to do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you are buying stuff for the renovations, you happen to have plenty of material left over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One is two is one and one is none.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good ass point, but Paul, do we really need all this good one side for that one room?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, near the three quarter could one side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why do we need a lot of hundred dollars extra?
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[SPEAKER_04]: God, why do we need this palette of sheet rock?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're not doing any sheet rock and you're all in a deer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of sheet rock opportunities in here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We need all of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you say, oh, whenever we don't need, we can just bring it back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you never play back and just use it for your new shop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't worry, we got you, dog, but you GSL for nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I guess that's kind of what I was trying to say is you just trying to make what you got work as best as you can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, like, even so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even in my own shop, there's tons of stuff that are just kind of cobbled together, and I probably could have spent more time or more money getting like professionally-made fixtures or tools and shit like that, and I just still use the same old little bullshit that I cobbled together myself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it gets a little bit worse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it gets a point where there are certain people who love
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[SPEAKER_04]: tools and the way that they are and the way that they're handled and it's just this kind of like I wouldn't say obsessive compulsive, but it's like make everything extreme situation and then there are people like I mean I never made a hammer when I first started as a metal worker or a blacksmith We were just like just give us the tools you got to get we got to work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what it was never about better shit Let's add moral let's admire this
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we listed my or the work we've done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got to get back to work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I am totally a cobbler.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I like cobbling shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking at my whole shop now and it is fucking cobbled to hell.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like it works.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The shop works great for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got, and it has character.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's not like this, you know, solace place where, you know, there's not, you know, I like, I like a little character, you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's the neck?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can you read the next one?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Get a shot of text.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This next one is from Devon Sheridan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, at what length does a knife turn into a sword?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I like calling my kitchen knives, kitchen swords.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Technically speaking, I don't really know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think once you get above maybe 18 inches,
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[SPEAKER_02]: for the blade length because the hilt is going to add probably at least another five to seven inches depending on the style.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a big piece of metal and you can you could definitely consider that a short sword.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think Jeff?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I don't know enough about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we knives, but we knives typically are 11 inches long.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they're certainly not swords, you know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if I might even say I think probably above 12 inches, you're starting to get into like long dagger, short sword area.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a machetea sword.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause only two feet long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are for sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping that a shed is a sword, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess if it's an agricultural tool, then it's not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if you're using it to defend yourself, but the cops are saying, if you're coming out of the machete, they say coming out of the machete, it's far more dramatic than you came at me with a short sword that we're not sure if it was a knife or sword.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Google, what is Gemini over on Google?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I asked how long is a short sword and it replied, a short sword typically has a blade length between 12 to 24 inches, and an overall length of about 21 to 30 inches.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Huh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, all right, machetes are sword.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess if you think of Roman Gladius was considered a short sword, but they were not very long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but that's the blame, that's just the blame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a Japanese walk is actually late.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Typically is between 12 and 24 inches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would consider that a short sword.
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[SPEAKER_04]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And questions answered.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Devon shared and we're with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, our buddy, our brother, the tugby champion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's just those, he's our guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says, I got a question for you guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to holiday and grease the minute.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this guy's starting in with like what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to holiday and grease it the moment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I bought one of my chef knives with me as a present for some friends here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I personalized with stabilized Greek olive wood handles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What a guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Their reaction was priceless.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So for the question, what has been your best reaction from someone when you've given them one of your knives face to face?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe two answers, one from a commercial point and one from a personal nature.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have any like let's just let's just not make it so pointed is there any reaction that you remember somebody having when they got one of your knives that meant something to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go with that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gary let's don't have to make it such a like you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't have to be inside the lines all the time, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't give me the caveats for the, there's somebody, give us some idea of someone who was happy or a reaction that you were, it was notable when you gave them a knife.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think, I, so most of my clients don't, I don't hand the knives off to them in person, uh, most knives are shipped.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's why I've very few of those interactions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I think one of the most memorable ones, uh, was honestly actually a very simple one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what was it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I had a finished piece and I had it where I don't even remember I brought it over to a friend's house to show it because I was getting ready to like send it out the next day, but.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which maybe was not the greatest idea, just before sending it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, because you could have gotten dropped or Aaron Scratch or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And people, everybody just kind of like quietly passed it around and was just like, wow, what the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they, and somebody actually, one of my friend Kelly, she was like, I've never seen a knife that's ever looked like that before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought there's just like, it was, but her sincerity and her genuine kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and so that's I think that's probably one of the better ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm just trying to think what else I mean Yeah, fuck I can't I can't really think of a whole lot because they're just haven't been a lot of them
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[SPEAKER_04]: The two offhand that I can think of is when I sent a knife to Jacques Papan and his daughter sent a picture of him opening it up and he had this really kind of awesome face and that was amazing that was amazing But my funniest now that I think about my favorite was my old boss Charlie Palmer got some knives from me and Tony and I my business partner I this years ago went down to one of his restaurants And we brought it to him and he unwrapped it and he was psyched
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[SPEAKER_04]: and then he says and then there's a gray picture of him holding me by the neck and he's pretending to give me a shave because I was not shaving.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like a fucking scum bag and there's this picture of him that I have and Tony took it and he's holding my head and he's gritting his cheese like he's going to fucking cut my head off and he's pretending to shave me holding me by the head
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[SPEAKER_04]: And trying to shave, you know, I'm making this, you know, terrified face, but it was that was probably one of my favorite moments because it was like my mentor and he was really in terms of like Being supportive of us what we were doing and he considered us as guys because we used to work for him and he really appreciated it, but that was probably my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was super pumped and he just like immediately trying, you know, grab my fucking head and shave my face with this, you know, the land I've so that was funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm trying to think, I actually have, so I used to locally here, there's a Benedictine college and they do a fundraiser every year to help support like their scholarship program that they offer there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they would have celebrity chefs come in and I got to make knives essentially for the celebrity chefs to be what they call the green room sponsor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So essentially
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then I get to be in the advertising all this other shit and I go to the dinner and stuff and But I mean side was one of the people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like one of those PBS guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a friend of Jack Pat and Old school old school Stay in a story kind of situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in Massachusetts, I believe
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[SPEAKER_02]: or base out of Massachusetts or anyways he uh he I got to present the knife directly to him and he was absolutely uh stunned by it which was really cool it was like it was and that was a mosaic the mask is chest knife that was made out of recycled materials
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[SPEAKER_04]: which was just like saw blades and bearing steel and yeah he was pretty pumped by that that's awesome yeah I tried sharpening some of the ceramic knives that he was he was pushing for a long time he like a KVC guy again years ago he was pushing these ceramic knives and my my my my my body who I sharpened as where gave me a couple of them and I was like I
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[SPEAKER_04]: I could know, nothing could, nothing, no belts could touch it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just doing these tiny little sparks, and I don't know what the hell is going on, and I said to my friend, I'm like, you're bringing this back to me again, and I'm like, I'm literally gonna kill you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't, I can't, I can't have a sharpie's pocket thanks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I got one more and I think it's probably my favorite one is because I'm like I said most of the stuff I make it's mailed out and so it's always at the house at some point before mailing it out and so I would always show the kiddo
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as he's gotten older, his reaction and his interest in what I do is grown a little bit, but otherwise he's kind of like, he's like, ah, whatever, like it's just kind of whatever him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's used to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's used to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember one time he was genuinely like impressed and he's like and he was very he asked me a lot of questions like how did you do that how does that what does that look like that And I'm like in trying to explain the process and liking it to something he's familiar with so I'm probably like liking it to like Play Do Imagine mixing yellow Play Do and red Play Do together and bubble block
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he thought it was really cool, and that's probably one of the ones that will always be one of my most favorite reactions for sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember bringing in knife to someone and they might have had a few drinks or whatever and I presented them with the package and they said, well, it took long enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, all right, I gotta go, I gotta go, ah, something happened, I'm looking at my watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, phone call, I gotta go to the hospital, I gotta go long enough, it took long enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have a great dilemma from our man, J. Modneyes, but before we get to it, I want to thank our friends at Broadbeck Ironworks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Many thanks to them, our guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: uh... we got a dilemma from our man just in mottica jima nives and he wrote this i'm not gonna preface it by what he said
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says, check out this listing as an accidental purchase.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So a guy wrote to a guy wrote to Justin and he said, and we're gonna decide what to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, this is gonna sound absolutely ridiculous and I apologize if I waste it in your time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was browsing Shopify earlier, and I had a couple of tabs with other vendors open including yours.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was running around doing a couple of errands so I put my phone on my pocket, not realizing I left the screen open.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Somehow, or some way, I must have done a pocket transaction with Shopify did without realizing it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Without me realizing it, even later, I looked and I was told I spent $800 through PayPal on one of those knives without even realizing it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if this is possible, but am I able to get a refund or is that not even possible?
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you can't, I would understand, but it was a mistake I made on my end.
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[SPEAKER_04]: without realizing, and I do apologize.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're able to contact me, my name is both so and so and so and such and such and it should be said that my other information on there including my phone number, I'm not sure if I can contact you through here or Shopify.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I will do in both cases.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope you don't, I hope it didn't cause you any problems and I sincerely apologize if it's taken up and if you're time thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says, what should I do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, you're reading that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can have it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can have it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean you're naïve is in the tumble spot in the tumble speed of the dryer to get to the fucking buy that knife but you know it's like those post where like somebody's like mindlessly walking through a mall and then they trip over something and they accidentally buy like a canoe car or something.
01:01:17.784 --> 01:01:23.527
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect yeah exactly I mean it's like oh I don't know how this happened yeah this is crazy what do I do crazy
01:01:23.967 --> 01:01:24.667
[SPEAKER_04]: What do I do?
01:01:24.767 --> 01:01:34.230
[SPEAKER_04]: Where are there stories of like kids buying a lot of stuff on Amazon not really knowing something like that, but yeah, so he says should I have kept his money?
01:01:34.250 --> 01:01:36.711
[SPEAKER_04]: It was what J. Mod nods wants to know.
01:01:36.991 --> 01:01:38.191
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know.
01:01:38.271 --> 01:01:50.815
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I, I mean, I don't obviously know how far along in the process that Justin got in like getting a package up and shipped out, but even still like fucking,
01:01:51.646 --> 01:01:55.408
[SPEAKER_02]: whatever, like I would have just said, here's your money back.
01:01:56.148 --> 01:01:59.290
[SPEAKER_04]: I wrote to him and I said, if you have the knife, you should refund it.
01:01:59.670 --> 01:02:04.092
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you had already sent it out, you know, you had a way to come back, right?
01:02:04.792 --> 01:02:07.353
[SPEAKER_04]: But I said, if you have the knife, you gotta get my refund.
01:02:07.513 --> 01:02:09.494
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if it was the end of the day.
01:02:09.915 --> 01:02:16.938
[SPEAKER_04]: And he says I did, but he wrote, no, I did, but do you think that he actually happened or do you think he had buyer's remorse?
01:02:18.457 --> 01:02:32.431
[SPEAKER_04]: And that happened, I believe that it happened a couple episodes ago we were talking about how a guy bought this knife and he went off to berserk and then he didn't say any bad things and he wanted his money back and he was either, we think it was other buyer's remorse or his maybe his, you know, wife said something.
01:02:33.715 --> 01:02:36.757
[SPEAKER_02]: Honey, why is there a $800 charge?
01:02:37.478 --> 01:02:39.699
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a lot.
01:02:39.799 --> 01:02:42.581
[SPEAKER_04]: That's an amazing, that's an amazing accomplishment.
01:02:42.761 --> 01:02:44.562
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how it would explain it to my wife.
01:02:46.304 --> 01:02:47.184
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the good thing.
01:02:47.504 --> 01:02:51.447
[SPEAKER_04]: The good thing is he didn't file a charge back, which I think can be bad.
01:02:51.988 --> 01:02:57.111
[SPEAKER_04]: And he didn't write it to be malicious and he went to you, J-Mod.
01:02:57.251 --> 01:02:57.451
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
01:03:00.033 --> 01:03:03.836
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that's a bad beat though.
01:03:04.336 --> 01:03:07.718
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a bad beat because it's all right like whoa ding ding ding ding eight hundred dollars.
01:03:07.798 --> 01:03:08.219
[SPEAKER_04]: It's awesome
01:03:08.647 --> 01:03:33.265
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, obviously you're excited as a maker, but I think ultimately like whatever the story is kind of doesn't fucking matter, like if you're still in possession of the knife, uh, nothing even if you mail it off if they mail it back like you're saying it comes back safe and sound like what the fuck it's better than like the like you're saying like the trouble that like PayPal like doing the charge back and all that like that affects all
01:03:36.847 --> 01:03:45.899
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's I think it's good customer service should be like what the fuck ever here's your money Hopefully you come back and buy one and for real next time.
01:03:46.300 --> 01:03:53.329
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah keep lose my number keep my page clothes Yeah, I don't know yeah it happens
01:03:54.675 --> 01:03:58.296
[SPEAKER_04]: It happens to, I mean, oh, that's technology is so bizarre.
01:03:58.477 --> 01:04:00.978
[SPEAKER_04]: At some point, you know, and it's gonna get weirder.
01:04:01.458 --> 01:04:07.100
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I remember recently, I was talking to someone about some product.
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.401
[SPEAKER_04]: And next thing, you know, it's, I'm being advertised for it.
01:04:10.581 --> 01:04:11.622
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like this one for sure.
01:04:11.642 --> 01:04:14.383
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like dynamic advertising or something like that.
01:04:14.403 --> 01:04:22.987
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, it's like, you know that, you know, it's what's gonna happen is, in some of our tech savvy friends are gonna say,
01:04:24.507 --> 01:04:29.968
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to make sure that when AI hears knife, your website's going to go direct.
01:04:30.028 --> 01:04:31.428
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's what's going to happen.
01:04:31.709 --> 01:04:38.250
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, made in or missing, or one of these guys is going to be like, bro, we need to get in that AI space.
01:04:38.350 --> 01:04:40.770
[SPEAKER_04]: We need to get in that flock camera space.
01:04:40.990 --> 01:04:41.931
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
01:04:41.951 --> 01:04:43.871
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody doesn't front of a flock camera.
01:04:44.091 --> 01:04:45.551
[SPEAKER_04]: They get a fucking missing ad.
01:04:45.811 --> 01:04:48.252
[SPEAKER_04]: That's when we're going to get involved with it.
01:04:48.292 --> 01:04:48.792
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus.
01:04:49.052 --> 01:04:53.554
[SPEAKER_04]: I wish it wasn't so funny, to me it's funny, but it is dystopian enough that it's probably to happen.
01:04:54.014 --> 01:04:56.054
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:04:56.094 --> 01:04:56.515
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:04:56.615 --> 01:05:01.156
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I went to go, I was looking at Yankees' merch.
01:05:01.676 --> 01:05:06.478
[SPEAKER_04]: Next thing you know, I got like fanatics fest is all over my fucking phone every five minutes.
01:05:07.238 --> 01:05:09.259
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:05:09.579 --> 01:05:18.262
[SPEAKER_02]: I was watching this clip of Pete Holmes, he's a comedian, and he's like he's in the middle of telling a story, and then he just kind of pauses.
01:05:18.962 --> 01:05:27.968
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just started yelling herpes herpes herpes and the whole crowd is quiet because they're like he was in the middle of a story They're completely confusing.
01:05:28.008 --> 01:05:29.269
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the fuck's going on.
01:05:29.309 --> 01:05:48.481
[SPEAKER_02]: He yells at like three or four times and then he's like have fun with those ads So like I could see somebody on a podcast being like everybody and he just turned you volume up a really loud right now in your cars Especially if you're listening in your car or on the stereo and then just saying all kinds of terrible stuff
01:05:48.961 --> 01:06:03.899
[SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of advertisements, I know that we're ever listening to this, you're going to have what's called, I think Craig referred to as dynamic advertising where the advertising is based on where you are, so like the stuff that I'm getting in New York is different than the stuff that you'd be getting if you were in the...
01:06:04.540 --> 01:06:05.280
[SPEAKER_04]: somewhere in the EU.
01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:16.944
[SPEAKER_04]: And every so often we're going to message like there's one guy and I think sweet and he was getting like from some sex toy store ads or something like that and you know it was based on what his neighborhood or whatever.
01:06:17.684 --> 01:06:21.966
[SPEAKER_04]: And recently I've been getting a, I've been when I listen back and I'm just in the listen do a little bit.
01:06:22.026 --> 01:06:27.608
[SPEAKER_04]: All of a sudden I start getting these you know recruitment recruitment ads for the CIA.
01:06:28.628 --> 01:06:30.049
[SPEAKER_04]: Not the colorance of America.
01:06:30.109 --> 01:06:40.333
[SPEAKER_04]: Central tell us to see which one you like you guys do ads No, you guys know what that's what you fucking Spooks want to do ads as crazy So then I got a message from John area.
01:06:40.353 --> 01:06:48.376
[SPEAKER_04]: I really just want you to know I'm fucking pumped the CIA wants me the CIA's been sending ads to be they won't you Join the CIA.
01:06:48.456 --> 01:06:57.160
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like it's not just you dog the try state area They're the see the consensual intelligence agency is looking for some of us tough ass try state area guys
01:06:57.910 --> 01:07:00.311
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it quannico somewhere up that direction?
01:07:00.351 --> 01:07:01.672
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think he's out of Virginia.
01:07:01.932 --> 01:07:02.793
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's out of Virginia.
01:07:02.853 --> 01:07:03.173
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
01:07:03.673 --> 01:07:10.396
[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, it's just like, it's hilarious, because I'm just like, the CIA is looking for recruits.
01:07:11.197 --> 01:07:14.498
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought you got to like, you know, be a certain type of, I guess, Marvelous.
01:07:14.518 --> 01:07:27.345
[SPEAKER_04]: You're a mental patient to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to
01:07:27.445 --> 01:07:27.885
[SPEAKER_04]: Perfect.
01:07:28.005 --> 01:07:30.886
[SPEAKER_04]: So congratulations, congratulations, recruits.
01:07:32.547 --> 01:07:39.869
[SPEAKER_04]: And with that said, let's just say a little happiness to our friends at DamestyleDamestyle.se to get your steal.
01:07:40.029 --> 01:07:45.971
[SPEAKER_04]: And you were right, if you put it, if you go to Damestyle to get some Damestyle.se to get some steal, Damestyle.
01:07:46.411 --> 01:07:48.271
[SPEAKER_04]: You put in the promo code, and I've talked 15.
01:07:48.431 --> 01:07:49.712
[SPEAKER_04]: And you get 15% off.
01:07:49.732 --> 01:07:52.393
[SPEAKER_04]: I got a nice message from Carly saying it's night talk 15.
01:07:53.093 --> 01:07:55.994
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you're going to submit for the DCI,
01:07:57.074 --> 01:08:00.275
[SPEAKER_04]: The Damicilevitational, you're welcome to, we love you to do it.
01:08:00.595 --> 01:08:11.459
[SPEAKER_04]: If you get your steal from Maritime Knife Supply, get your steal from true grit, get your thought, it's the Oregon Mandor, get it from Damicile, submit your images by Halloween.
01:08:11.939 --> 01:08:21.322
[SPEAKER_04]: Halloween is the submission date and join us for the DCI and that's that.
01:08:21.802 --> 01:08:25.243
[SPEAKER_04]: So we have more questions, we have feedback.
01:08:25.303 --> 01:08:29.725
[SPEAKER_04]: If you want to do some feedbook, if you have some audio feedback, whatever you want to do.
01:08:29.805 --> 01:08:31.065
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's do some of the feedback.
01:08:32.046 --> 01:08:35.627
[SPEAKER_04]: This isn't a piece of audio feedback from our man, Coda.
01:08:36.127 --> 01:08:37.288
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's Jeff Jackson.
01:08:37.308 --> 01:08:40.249
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little long, but, you know, he's our guy.
01:08:42.690 --> 01:08:43.570
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, maybe I should turn it up.
01:08:44.070 --> 01:08:45.270
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, buddy.
01:08:45.290 --> 01:08:46.191
[SPEAKER_03]: Thinking about your company.
01:08:47.592 --> 01:08:50.034
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey guys, this is Jeff Jackson with Code of Blade Company.
01:08:50.734 --> 01:08:54.196
[SPEAKER_03]: Thinking about your conversation last week on Deadlines and Pressure.
01:08:54.537 --> 01:08:59.300
[SPEAKER_03]: And it reminded me of something a coach told me years ago when he said that Pressure is a privilege.
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:05.964
[SPEAKER_03]: And in this context, he meant that, you know, at the end of the season, you hope to be playing games.
01:09:07.045 --> 01:09:30.746
[SPEAKER_03]: better value that where there's something on the line you don't want to be playing meaningless baseball in October you hope to be playing for the penit or for the world series and with that's going to come pressure but what that means is you're winning you're part of a winning team you're doing something right and in that respect pressure is a real privilege the people who aren't experiencing pressure they're not winning either
01:09:31.626 --> 01:09:35.929
[SPEAKER_03]: And in business, I think it's similar, none of us go into business to not be busy.
01:09:37.070 --> 01:09:41.953
[SPEAKER_03]: We want to be busy with our business, but with that's going to come some degree of pressure.
01:09:42.213 --> 01:09:46.816
[SPEAKER_03]: And if we're not experiencing some of the pressure, it might mean that we're not fully capitalizing on the opportunities that we have to grow our business.
01:09:47.196 --> 01:09:51.439
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think you want to welcome some of the pressure, frankly, out of welcome more pressure, more business from time to time.
01:09:51.779 --> 01:09:53.620
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the real key, though, is how we covered that pressure.
01:09:54.060 --> 01:09:57.443
[SPEAKER_03]: When we feel pressure, it's maybe by default, our natural response is to interpret it as stress or anxiety.
01:09:57.583 --> 01:10:01.366
[SPEAKER_03]: But we can actually kind of practice the art of refraining how your body interprets pressure.
01:10:02.066 --> 01:10:07.750
[SPEAKER_03]: So that instead of receiving it in feeling stress and anxiety, you can almost train yourself to interpret it as opportunity or excitement.
01:10:07.810 --> 01:10:09.752
[SPEAKER_03]: And it takes practice at the time, it's not easy to do it at over time.
01:10:10.772 --> 01:10:19.058
[SPEAKER_03]: You can begin both feel that energy that comes with pressure, but instead of feeling it as anxiety, you can feel it as opportunity and even excitement.
01:10:19.138 --> 01:10:19.959
[SPEAKER_03]: And when you learn to do it,
01:10:20.019 --> 01:10:23.974
[SPEAKER_03]: that you really do feel and believe and experience that pressure really is a privilege.
01:10:24.155 --> 01:10:25.460
[SPEAKER_03]: So, anyway, so that was my thoughts next week.
01:10:25.912 --> 01:10:49.763
[SPEAKER_04]: right guys you don't want you to go back and listen to that and every time he says the word pressure you have to take a shot you'll all be you'll all be dead what was wrong with the what was wrong and I started fucking around with rescribing it yeah I scrubbing it yeah I mean I love Jeff you just have several arts we're a thousand percent with him and yeah
01:10:50.783 --> 01:11:00.708
[SPEAKER_04]: actually that expression and it funny enough I I I always heard the expression pressure is a privilege and it comes from Billie Jean King.
01:11:01.108 --> 01:11:11.373
[SPEAKER_04]: Billie Jean King now we're at that we're at the tail end of the episode and we're having a bunch of blast watching I love that's part of our we love watching the U.S. Open there with our big ass TV it's pretty awesome.
01:11:12.774 --> 01:11:36.369
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's what she said, Billie Jean King said, the pressure is privilege, and I think it's the idea of like, if you have pressure on you, that means that's a good thing, because you are doing something of value, and somebody's putting pressure on you, that's ultimately good, and you need to just kind of understand that.
01:11:36.971 --> 01:11:40.073
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think that's good to frame it in that way.
01:11:40.093 --> 01:11:44.395
[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree, like, free framing it so that you see it as a positive.
01:11:44.575 --> 01:11:45.295
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely good thing.
01:11:45.335 --> 01:11:53.739
[SPEAKER_02]: But also understanding and taking steps to an, I guess, manage that is a very different thing.
01:11:53.859 --> 01:11:54.300
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
01:11:54.620 --> 01:12:03.084
[SPEAKER_02]: And because if you are a bum-barded, but an experience a lot of, you know, excitement around your product or whatever and people like demand,
01:12:05.325 --> 01:12:06.706
[SPEAKER_02]: for all of that.
01:12:06.886 --> 01:12:08.147
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it can be a lot.
01:12:08.327 --> 01:12:10.969
[SPEAKER_02]: I experienced that after I was on the Joe Rogan podcast.
01:12:11.029 --> 01:12:29.341
[SPEAKER_02]: It went like things went fucking crazy and it was extremely overwhelming because on the business side of things there was just a lot going on and then and then when it came to getting shit done in the shop I started to feel not only a lot of pressure and honestly I think a lot of the pressure
01:12:30.282 --> 01:12:57.939
[SPEAKER_02]: was self-inflicted based on what I'm anticipating people are expecting for me and because the reputation that I've started to develop for my work and the price point that my work sells that I was actually having a really good conversation the other day with a proverb about all this shit and it was it was a lot and I've kind of like basically over the last
01:12:58.900 --> 01:12:59.320
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus.
01:12:59.400 --> 01:13:01.281
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been almost 10 years.
01:13:01.301 --> 01:13:04.943
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been like eight years since I was on Joe Rogan's podcast.
01:13:06.243 --> 01:13:19.410
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been trying to dismantle all that and had to like reorganize how I'm operating as a business, how I'm taking orders, how I'm managing orders, how I'm doing a lot of stuff and
01:13:20.370 --> 01:13:35.976
[SPEAKER_02]: it was something that I was not ready for and I think it's nice to say this is a great thing for you and this is why but that doesn't help you figure out how to manage it right and so learning how to manage it is going to be
01:13:37.356 --> 01:13:41.903
[SPEAKER_02]: As important if not way fucking more important than saying oh, this is a good thing.
01:13:41.963 --> 01:13:45.369
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not trying to shoot on Kota or anything like that.
01:13:45.389 --> 01:13:50.817
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but you're entitled to I'd rather hear your opinion than what you think people want to hear
01:13:51.202 --> 01:13:56.745
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it is very important to I do and I agree with it.
01:13:56.805 --> 01:13:59.686
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think it is a good thing to reframe it.
01:13:59.726 --> 01:14:11.412
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's seen as a positive, but often the reason it feels like pressure is because you're not ready for what's happening, or you're not in a position to manage that well.
01:14:11.992 --> 01:14:15.854
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you start to feel that, that means you need to put some systems in place.
01:14:16.715 --> 01:14:35.615
[SPEAKER_02]: to manage that pressure, to manage the overwhelm, to manage the customer expectations, and everything that's going along with the pressure that you're feeling, experiencing, because if it doesn't feel like pressure, then I don't like that if you're not feeling pressure, then you must not be successful.
01:14:36.016 --> 01:14:37.217
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I don't fucking set.
01:14:37.457 --> 01:14:38.257
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't necessarily.
01:14:38.277 --> 01:14:57.722
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to dial in and you're good with it and actually that pressure feels great like I know plenty I know a few people who fucking thrive on what I Personally would consider is insanely overwhelming pressure They're just like I fucking love it and they're swimming in it like fucking scrooge McDuck in his mouth how we're told you know and so
01:14:58.762 --> 01:15:01.923
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, yeah, I wouldn't say here's a different person, a person.
01:15:02.183 --> 01:15:09.625
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say that knowing Jeff, I don't think that was meant to be like, you know, if you don't like pressure, you're not as successful.
01:15:09.665 --> 01:15:11.045
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that's really what he meant.
01:15:11.165 --> 01:15:17.006
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to, I'm going to defend him in the sense of, I, you know, mad, I know the kind of guy he is.
01:15:17.026 --> 01:15:18.707
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that it was his intention at all.
01:15:19.827 --> 01:15:27.313
[SPEAKER_04]: It was interesting, you said, me personally, I've had to get comfortable with pressure, and a lot of it was not even pressure.
01:15:27.373 --> 01:15:42.764
[SPEAKER_04]: I had to be comfortable with being in the weeds, and a lot of that came from the restaurant game I hated it, and it got to the point where I had to be comfortable in an uncomfortable position, and I don't think that it's great, but it's almost how do you deal with the pressure is more about like,
01:15:44.365 --> 01:16:02.865
[SPEAKER_04]: how do you deal with these things and some people just it's it's a little too overwhelming for them and everybody's totally everyone's wired differently and it's easier said than done to just say all right you know just get over it it's something it just doesn't happen all the time and you know that's
01:16:04.426 --> 01:16:14.073
[SPEAKER_04]: Me personally, me personally, I back in the day Charlie used to say to Tony and I, they used to double book the restaurant and they, we were saying, well, we would say, well, what are you supposed to do?
01:16:14.133 --> 01:16:20.778
[SPEAKER_04]: And he says you figured out and then they double book the fucking restaurant and we were, and then they would just say, make the mess.
01:16:21.598 --> 01:16:26.781
[SPEAKER_04]: And he and I have been talking like that for 25 years, Tony and I have been talking, make the mess for 25 years.
01:16:26.801 --> 01:16:38.207
[SPEAKER_04]: So it took us a long time to be comfortable with the idea of, well, somebody's just going to get mad and we'll just figure it out and we'll just, well, we just got to cover the, you know, we got to make it happen.
01:16:38.567 --> 01:16:49.733
[SPEAKER_04]: So now like now we're still, you know, I got a lot, I got orders up the lawsuit and it's, I don't, I'm not upset about it, you know, and it, it, it, it, it, it, I don't,
01:16:50.753 --> 01:17:06.991
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel crippled by it, but at the same time, I respect the people who do, you know, I respect people's, I respect you, obviously, and I respect people who, that's just not what they want to do.
01:17:07.752 --> 01:17:07.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:17:09.443 --> 01:17:14.547
[SPEAKER_04]: This actually comes down to is like you're willing you're not, you know, and if you're not, then there's something wrong with that.
01:17:15.007 --> 01:17:15.107
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:17:15.127 --> 01:17:15.608
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
01:17:15.748 --> 01:17:20.732
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if that's not what you want to do, then we're good, you know, I can't force you to want to like it.
01:17:21.132 --> 01:17:25.155
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, Racco, I want you to like pressure, you know what I'm going to do with that.
01:17:25.235 --> 01:17:26.076
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's going to do that?
01:17:26.336 --> 01:17:29.218
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got to find out what works for you and everybody's different.
01:17:29.699 --> 01:17:29.899
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:31.100
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
01:17:32.249 --> 01:17:40.296
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, that was that before we said anything else.
01:17:40.316 --> 01:17:44.920
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to thank our friends at TorMax, celebrating 50 years of being a business with a black T.A.
01:17:44.940 --> 01:17:45.600
[SPEAKER_04]: sharpening system.
01:17:45.980 --> 01:17:46.941
[SPEAKER_04]: Did I already thank TorMax?
01:17:47.061 --> 01:17:47.822
[SPEAKER_04]: I already thank TorMax.
01:17:47.842 --> 01:17:51.185
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to be bringing the TorMax to that pop-up with people here.
01:17:52.065 --> 01:18:13.740
[SPEAKER_04]: And many thanks to them, and many thanks to our friends at Maritime Knife Supply, Lawrence Lake is the man and if you are interested in supporting someone who is very invested in the metalworking community, knife-making community, go support Maritime Knife Supply, you're at one stop shop for all your still belts, braces, handle, material, forges, kills, heat, treating ovens, all that stuff.
01:18:14.340 --> 01:18:18.943
[SPEAKER_04]: So either if you could decide to get up a pack of abrasive belts, you get 10% off on that pack.
01:18:19.404 --> 01:18:22.046
[SPEAKER_04]: So many thanks to Lawrence and we are with him.
01:18:23.146 --> 01:18:24.467
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think, what do you want to do?
01:18:24.487 --> 01:18:26.909
[SPEAKER_04]: We got more feedback.
01:18:28.990 --> 01:18:31.652
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this one comes from JV custom blades.
01:18:31.672 --> 01:18:33.033
[SPEAKER_04]: We like JV custom blades.
01:18:33.073 --> 01:18:34.674
[SPEAKER_04]: So they just listen to your show.
01:18:35.495 --> 01:18:45.981
[SPEAKER_04]: from August 10th and you were talking about the Rolling Knife Sharpeners, you know, where you put the Knife in the Fountain Magnet and then you, some reason you don't have to cut your fucking whole hand off.
01:18:47.221 --> 01:18:50.243
[SPEAKER_04]: Mostly I agree that it's a bit of rubbish.
01:18:50.323 --> 01:18:58.588
[SPEAKER_04]: However, the original German made one, I have, I found great for turning up an edge if it's within a 15 to 20 degree bracket.
01:18:59.228 --> 01:19:11.193
[SPEAKER_04]: And the magnet is surprisingly strong, although I tend to do a longer blade in sections to maintain the correct angle with flexing the gray, without flexing the blade, happy selling out.
01:19:11.213 --> 01:19:21.738
[SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about this way, you know, if the rolling tumbling knife company wanted to, if they offered to pay us a pile of money to sponsor it, we sell out.
01:19:22.218 --> 01:19:26.861
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he also, once again, JV customed up blades also, so I would definitely buy a tug
01:19:28.281 --> 01:19:41.850
[SPEAKER_04]: I am going to read, I'm going to literally look into whether or not we want to do fucking tug-wee shirts, I'm not mad at it, I was selling my wife about it, she thought it was hilarious, which is something like that.
01:19:42.491 --> 01:19:49.776
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Philip Hyden, Philipp Hyden is offering us a sell-out dilemma, and that's how a sell-out proposal.
01:19:50.136 --> 01:19:50.616
[SPEAKER_02]: Proposal.
01:19:52.037 --> 01:20:00.839
[SPEAKER_04]: would you, for $20 per positive comment you make, endorse and preach how fantastic pineapple pizza is.
01:20:01.500 --> 01:20:08.881
[SPEAKER_04]: The catch, all right, so every comment we make is that's positive about pineapple pizza, we get $20.
01:20:09.482 --> 01:20:17.544
[SPEAKER_04]: The catch is you can never again say, you don't like pineapple on pizza, and the comments you make must naturally fit into normal conversation.
01:20:19.244 --> 01:20:22.865
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't be like, god damn I wish I was eating this fucking pineapple pizza.
01:20:22.925 --> 01:20:23.866
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a god damn.
01:20:23.886 --> 01:20:26.507
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, your name.
01:20:26.607 --> 01:20:31.709
[SPEAKER_04]: He says, um, there's another one for, I think there's another one for which we'll get to the next one.
01:20:32.129 --> 01:20:34.370
[SPEAKER_04]: So you, you, you know, you're doing for free.
01:20:34.390 --> 01:20:37.071
[SPEAKER_04]: You love pineapple pizza.
01:20:37.271 --> 01:20:37.491
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:20:37.511 --> 01:20:38.411
[SPEAKER_02]: You take 20 bucks.
01:20:38.431 --> 01:20:39.232
[SPEAKER_04]: They can comment, right?
01:20:39.552 --> 01:20:39.692
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:20:39.792 --> 01:20:40.372
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do that.
01:20:40.532 --> 01:20:42.513
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they can pay me in pineapple pizza.
01:20:44.705 --> 01:21:02.447
[SPEAKER_04]: I just listen I actually had a I had a conversation with a good friend of ours who is like loves pineapple pizza And he didn't like the fact that I do a lot of jokes about pineapple pizza and in my mind I'm thinking to myself I only do jokes that I think people can't really be upset about this
01:21:03.688 --> 01:21:09.930
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not doing abortion jokes, I'm not doing political humor, I don't think anything much personal enough that people would be really mad at me.
01:21:10.350 --> 01:21:14.311
[SPEAKER_04]: So if I'm talking about pint of pizza sucks, I think everybody's okay, right?
01:21:14.692 --> 01:21:22.174
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, that's gonna make you stay up a night thinking Jeff Fader, he's ruined my right, ruined his own reputation.
01:21:22.254 --> 01:21:24.415
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, pint of pizza, I think we can live.
01:21:25.415 --> 01:21:34.607
[SPEAKER_04]: And I remember friend of mine says, you know, I don't like how, you know, you go after pineapple pizza so much and I'm like, well, dude, you know, I've only had three times and all three times with, was with you.
01:21:35.167 --> 01:21:43.397
[SPEAKER_04]: And then to the point where I tried to like it and even you admitted two out of three times it wasn't any good.
01:21:43.958 --> 01:21:49.303
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm just like, I mean, how much more are I going to suffer for this hot fruit situation?
01:21:49.503 --> 01:21:50.784
[SPEAKER_04]: So that was one thing.
01:21:50.864 --> 01:21:54.527
[SPEAKER_04]: And then another thing is I've been doing knife memes a lot lately.
01:21:55.107 --> 01:21:58.791
[SPEAKER_04]: I have this whole, and my, and fader knives, there's in the highlights, there's a whole page.
01:21:59.331 --> 01:22:02.153
[SPEAKER_04]: I have every time I do a meme, I put it to knife meme.
01:22:02.173 --> 01:22:03.695
[SPEAKER_04]: So I have a string of knife memes.
01:22:05.296 --> 01:22:17.301
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a, have you seen this, you must have seen this trailer for this movie about the woman who was arrested and she's going to prison for the biohacker situation, you know what I'm talking about?
01:22:17.341 --> 01:22:18.241
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
01:22:18.581 --> 01:22:31.347
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is just woman who started this science company where they could test your blood and she kind of, she got indicted because she lied to investors and,
01:22:31.887 --> 01:22:56.869
[SPEAKER_04]: She's really quite crazy and there's this there's this image of the mimic of this documentary film guy came in right before She was getting sent to jail and they did this whole documentary and there's this meme going around of her saying I'm I'll play I'll play what she's sent what she says Which is high-fine to be I find to be hilarious so she's playing this this is this is her and she's looking at this guy with this her eyes are super wide open
01:22:57.830 --> 01:23:01.693
[SPEAKER_04]: and her mouth and she's talking to this guy and this is what she says.
01:23:14.197 --> 01:23:15.858
[SPEAKER_04]: So she looks totally crazy.
01:23:16.559 --> 01:23:17.800
[SPEAKER_04]: She looks totally crazy.
01:23:18.040 --> 01:23:18.561
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll see it.
01:23:18.581 --> 01:23:26.427
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember her name or offhand, but it's about this woman who started this tech firm and she just built all of these investors and she's a total psychopath.
01:23:26.947 --> 01:23:30.890
[SPEAKER_04]: And basically the documentary person is looking at her and saying, are you being honest?
01:23:30.930 --> 01:23:32.532
[SPEAKER_04]: And she goes, why would I be deceitful?
01:23:33.312 --> 01:23:35.593
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think I know who you're talking about.
01:23:35.673 --> 01:23:45.798
[SPEAKER_04]: So I've been taking that clip and I've been putting a lot of, you know, putting a lot of, you know, text on top of it, because it makes it sound like, you know, it makes it sound like it's crazy.
01:23:45.838 --> 01:23:59.425
[SPEAKER_04]: So like the last one I did was I did, I put on it, I put on it, when a stock removal guy has forge in their title.
01:24:07.879 --> 01:24:10.861
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't have anything to see if you want, of course I'm not not to see being you.
01:24:10.981 --> 01:24:13.762
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so like, that's it's a great, it's a great meme.
01:24:14.143 --> 01:24:19.386
[SPEAKER_04]: So I wrote on it, yeah, so stock removal guys when they have forge in the title of their business or something.
01:24:19.406 --> 01:24:19.606
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:24:20.066 --> 01:24:24.188
[SPEAKER_04]: And I got some messages from some dudes who are not too happy with me.
01:24:24.208 --> 01:24:26.770
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that I thought they would have a sense of humor, but you're like,
01:24:27.450 --> 01:24:32.214
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you're targeting me, I don't know what I'm gonna do, but this is not any other thing, and I'm just like, this is just a joke.
01:24:32.534 --> 01:24:36.578
[SPEAKER_04]: People are too sensitive, people get great stock, stock removal guys are sensitive.
01:24:36.658 --> 01:24:37.459
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you know this.
01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:38.680
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm afraid.
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:44.565
[SPEAKER_04]: Stock removal guys might be the most sensitive, and pineapple pizza people are some of the most sensitive people.
01:24:45.645 --> 01:24:47.487
[SPEAKER_04]: Stock removal guys have no sense of humor.
01:24:47.867 --> 01:24:53.392
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling you, I get to the point where I'm just like, every time someone's very sensitive, it's usually a stock removal guy.
01:24:53.810 --> 01:24:59.337
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you're not forging, why would you have forging in your fucking business?
01:24:59.377 --> 01:25:00.918
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I mean, it's funny.
01:25:00.959 --> 01:25:04.723
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not, it wasn't, I mean, there's jokes, so we have a little bit truth in them, right?
01:25:05.023 --> 01:25:06.385
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it was really, yeah.
01:25:06.425 --> 01:25:07.927
[SPEAKER_04]: So I got a couple guys being like,
01:25:09.385 --> 01:25:12.386
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, this is the reason I'm giving me the whole fucking thing.
01:25:12.666 --> 01:25:13.946
[SPEAKER_04]: Like dude, it's fucking meme.
01:25:14.226 --> 01:25:14.806
[SPEAKER_04]: Just chill.
01:25:15.066 --> 01:25:15.847
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just chill out.
01:25:17.167 --> 01:25:18.347
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's my new favorite thing.
01:25:18.367 --> 01:25:19.327
[SPEAKER_04]: Cause if you're gonna fan about it.
01:25:19.548 --> 01:25:20.688
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the top, I like it.
01:25:20.748 --> 01:25:23.568
[SPEAKER_04]: It's his knife, it's his knife memes.
01:25:23.789 --> 01:25:26.129
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's all, it's all just me just breaking balls.
01:25:26.429 --> 01:25:28.990
[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of it is me breaking balls.
01:25:29.250 --> 01:25:31.270
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm stuck in real quick guys.
01:25:31.350 --> 01:25:33.251
[SPEAKER_04]: So take out goddamn sets that are you guys are.
01:25:34.811 --> 01:25:36.932
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that was fun.
01:25:37.592 --> 01:25:37.812
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:25:38.964 --> 01:25:40.945
[SPEAKER_04]: Should we just fuck around a little bit, or do you wanna hit another question?
01:25:41.045 --> 01:25:42.565
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, will you forgot?
01:25:42.645 --> 01:25:43.605
[SPEAKER_04]: We forgot.
01:25:43.725 --> 01:25:47.666
[SPEAKER_04]: There was more to Philip Hyden had a secondary cell out.
01:25:48.127 --> 01:25:49.147
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a fun one.
01:25:49.167 --> 01:25:49.687
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
01:25:49.807 --> 01:25:58.469
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Philip Hyden also says, would you for $5,000 take a podcast sponsorship from a ball trimmer company and mention them five times in the episode?
01:25:58.890 --> 01:26:01.650
[SPEAKER_04]: Catch is, you have to try the product out first.
01:26:02.631 --> 01:26:03.751
[SPEAKER_04]: What, then we do that?
01:26:06.197 --> 01:26:08.099
[SPEAKER_04]: I already did that, I didn't even $5,000.
01:26:09.340 --> 01:26:11.982
[SPEAKER_04]: We all got ball trimmers, we all used them.
01:26:12.623 --> 01:26:14.724
[SPEAKER_04]: And we talked about them for about a minute.
01:26:15.385 --> 01:26:20.790
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, if $5,000 so the answer is, we'll do a cheaper than $5,000.
01:26:22.091 --> 01:26:23.092
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even get $5,000.
01:26:23.172 --> 01:26:24.152
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't get $5,000.
01:26:24.193 --> 01:26:24.913
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, it's got $5,000.
01:26:24.933 --> 01:26:27.075
[SPEAKER_04]: That'll be all just, it's a fucking bullshit ball trimmers.
01:26:27.836 --> 01:26:28.816
[SPEAKER_04]: Then they had to replace.
01:26:29.807 --> 01:26:31.127
[SPEAKER_04]: You had my balls.
01:26:31.627 --> 01:26:33.148
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you not trim my balls?
01:26:33.528 --> 01:26:38.649
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like, what kind of fucking porn star needs a fucking ball trimmer their whole life?
01:26:38.729 --> 01:26:41.669
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, a normal person, how often are you trimming your balls?
01:26:41.849 --> 01:26:43.550
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like, give me a break.
01:26:44.250 --> 01:26:46.690
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what kind of people are these people?
01:26:46.950 --> 01:26:49.651
[SPEAKER_04]: They've got to keep up the grooming of their fucking balls.
01:26:50.871 --> 01:26:51.491
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what?
01:26:52.692 --> 01:26:53.372
[SPEAKER_04]: Am I wrong?
01:26:53.492 --> 01:26:54.592
[SPEAKER_04]: Isn't it seem like a lot?
01:26:55.202 --> 01:26:58.287
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't all be hairless, just like you Jeff.
01:26:58.648 --> 01:27:02.515
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, but I mean, I'm saying that like, pre-pubescent Jeff.
01:27:02.575 --> 01:27:08.806
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, it's just, yeah, it's, yeah, pre-pubescent Jeff is being like, I don't even just want to burn all of them.
01:27:09.672 --> 01:27:33.967
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like a, I'm like
01:27:34.227 --> 01:27:35.107
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this finks cat.
01:27:35.127 --> 01:27:36.247
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm like this finks cat.
01:27:36.748 --> 01:27:36.968
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:27:37.508 --> 01:27:37.708
[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck.
01:27:38.028 --> 01:27:38.388
[SPEAKER_03]: Gross.
01:27:39.208 --> 01:27:39.648
[SPEAKER_04]: Guys.
01:27:39.688 --> 01:27:39.908
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
01:27:41.028 --> 01:27:41.889
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm sorry.
01:27:41.949 --> 01:27:42.729
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, Craig.
01:27:43.909 --> 01:27:44.549
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Craig.
01:27:44.849 --> 01:27:46.349
[SPEAKER_04]: We let you down the end, dog.
01:27:47.230 --> 01:27:48.570
[SPEAKER_04]: We let you down the end, Craig.
01:27:49.190 --> 01:27:51.911
[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, that's good enough for me.
01:27:52.131 --> 01:27:55.291
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I really kind of catapulted this down.
01:27:55.571 --> 01:27:56.752
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just to the depths.
01:27:57.092 --> 01:27:58.492
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you got coming up
01:28:04.713 --> 01:28:08.734
[SPEAKER_04]: I am looking forward to this weekend.
01:28:09.034 --> 01:28:10.575
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a painting class.
01:28:11.435 --> 01:28:13.176
[SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean?
01:28:13.376 --> 01:28:17.137
[SPEAKER_04]: A friend of mine, who's an awesome painter, I propositioned him.
01:28:17.757 --> 01:28:21.718
[SPEAKER_04]: And I wanted him to help me teach me how to use oil paints.
01:28:21.758 --> 01:28:22.938
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never used oil paints before.
01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:24.479
[SPEAKER_02]: Is the guy who does the murals?
01:28:25.118 --> 01:28:26.319
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, Andy B.
01:28:26.599 --> 01:28:27.300
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome painter.
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:28.101
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome painter.
01:28:28.621 --> 01:28:34.607
[SPEAKER_04]: So he's going to come to the shop on Sunday and we're going to do some still life paintings and he's going to give you some tips.
01:28:34.627 --> 01:28:36.889
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to show me how to do stuff and he's like, what do you need?
01:28:37.149 --> 01:28:37.849
[SPEAKER_04]: You're a good painter.
01:28:37.869 --> 01:28:39.010
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a good painter.
01:28:39.191 --> 01:28:39.791
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm full.
01:28:39.851 --> 01:28:40.312
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a hack.
01:28:40.892 --> 01:28:49.956
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm excited and then on Saturday, I'm going to, I'm going to, we fixed our basement, our basement is bone dry, and I'm going to make it in a painting studio.
01:28:50.136 --> 01:28:57.339
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm, I'm all very excited, I'm going to clean the basement out, get some new lights, and I got, I bought Fader Nives, bought me a lot of paint.
01:28:57.419 --> 01:28:59.620
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to, wow, I'm going to want more painting.
01:28:59.660 --> 01:29:01.881
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm very, very excited, I'm very, very excited.
01:29:01.901 --> 01:29:05.283
[SPEAKER_02]: So, do you have a sponsor for Fader Nives now?
01:29:05.866 --> 01:29:09.888
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh dude, I want to do a sponsored read for fuck I don't want Windsor Newton.
01:29:09.908 --> 01:29:13.190
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to I want to be sponsored by Windsor Newton in the worst way.
01:29:13.370 --> 01:29:23.235
[SPEAKER_04]: However, I'm not the thing is is Instagram painters are really cool and my algorithm is now much more positive because I have more you know, it's not like people yelling at the cops all the time.
01:29:23.755 --> 01:29:26.477
[SPEAKER_04]: That's usually what my algorithm is for people.
01:29:26.897 --> 01:29:27.717
[SPEAKER_04]: Scream to cops.
01:29:28.298 --> 01:29:49.146
[SPEAKER_04]: I got painters, but the problem is all of a sudden when you're all your oil painter All the oil painting algorithm it turns into all these motherfuckers are doing the same guy the impaining So it's like everybody's Bob Ross So they all got the same goddamn tricks so I'm Yeah, I'm a start painting in the series in a serious way.
01:29:49.586 --> 01:29:53.688
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'm painting the very serious way What are you what are you looking for?
01:29:54.908 --> 01:30:19.820
[SPEAKER_02]: uh well as people are listening to this on Monday the past Saturday uh I will have taken my kid up to Bellevue which is like um kind of like not a sister but it's just like a cross to giant lake from Seattle uh there's a brick convention happening or brick con which is a Lego convention I'm taking Saturday I'm taking the kid up and we're basically gonna spend
01:30:21.387 --> 01:30:21.687
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:30:22.327 --> 01:30:23.008
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how long.
01:30:23.608 --> 01:30:25.049
[SPEAKER_02]: Last year we did a couple hours.
01:30:26.769 --> 01:30:33.092
[SPEAKER_02]: And thankfully, he, uh, he's not the biggest fan of like highly populated areas.
01:30:33.672 --> 01:30:36.433
[SPEAKER_02]: It with like a bunch of fucking ding-dong's walking around.
01:30:36.453 --> 01:30:40.135
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, a lot of weird, just people everywhere.
01:30:40.275 --> 01:30:41.956
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we went to this, uh, what is it?
01:30:42.016 --> 01:30:42.776
[SPEAKER_02]: The summer fair.
01:30:43.497 --> 01:30:49.003
[SPEAKER_02]: earlier this year, or last earlier in the summer, and even that was just he was like, okay, I'm good.
01:30:49.284 --> 01:30:52.268
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're only there for like an hour, maybe an hour and a half.
01:30:53.269 --> 01:30:53.749
[SPEAKER_02]: And um,
01:30:54.795 --> 01:30:59.819
[SPEAKER_02]: but he does have a couple things that he's looking for specifically regarding legos.
01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:09.086
[SPEAKER_02]: So we might be on a little bit of a scavenger hunt, but otherwise we just like the way they have it set up is like there are these different sections.
01:31:09.126 --> 01:31:16.391
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of actually like blade show has different like they have the handmade section and they have the ABS section and they have all the booze and stuff like that and the vendors.
01:31:16.852 --> 01:31:17.112
[SPEAKER_02]: So um
01:31:18.693 --> 01:31:40.425
[SPEAKER_02]: brick cons similar to that where the vendors are around the outside and then there's all these different sections for these different styles or genre of buildings so like fantasy and like figures and trains and all that well whatever all this different stuff and um and we're just like cruising around getting inspiration more than anything so it should be fun
01:31:41.419 --> 01:31:42.180
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, awesome.
01:31:42.420 --> 01:31:56.754
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll go up there have some fucking shitty lunch of some sort that that the concessions offers there and then yeah, but I look forward to it because he's always like I know how I feel.
01:31:57.335 --> 01:32:12.720
[SPEAKER_02]: when I get back from blade show it's great to see people but it's really cool to see like work in person and kind of be re-inspired in that way and I think he feels like it gets his creative juices going again in regards to the stuff he wants to build in different ways to approach stuff and so it's cool.
01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:13.880
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that's awesome.
01:32:13.940 --> 01:32:15.661
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to see him experience that himself.
01:32:16.533 --> 01:32:17.754
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm like that.
01:32:17.774 --> 01:32:18.514
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's great.
01:32:19.254 --> 01:32:22.916
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really awesome that you're really supportive of the his interests.
01:32:23.176 --> 01:32:24.757
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the most that's the best.
01:32:25.237 --> 01:32:28.418
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the best way that kids get confidence.
01:32:28.979 --> 01:32:37.462
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's always it's always when kids don't feel belittled by the things that they're, you know, they're not that used to make fun of me.
01:32:37.562 --> 01:32:38.403
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, cartoonies.
01:32:39.043 --> 01:32:45.346
[SPEAKER_04]: And it, you lose, the kids lose confidence when their parents aren't excited when they're excited.
01:32:45.426 --> 01:32:53.771
[SPEAKER_04]: So you are the man and I appreciate what you do for that young guy that we've got known.
01:32:53.791 --> 01:32:59.053
[SPEAKER_04]: We've heard about him when he was a little baby on this podcast and now he's a big guy, big guy.
01:32:59.694 --> 01:33:00.774
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's just turned 10.
01:33:01.215 --> 01:33:02.035
[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus, Jesus.
01:33:02.095 --> 01:33:03.376
[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus, Jesus.
01:33:03.716 --> 01:33:03.936
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:33:05.395 --> 01:33:05.776
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
01:33:05.816 --> 01:33:13.987
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that was much, but you did a much, but you definitely, I dipped a straight down the ground and you pull this up back to the clock into the sky.
01:33:14.007 --> 01:33:15.128
[SPEAKER_04]: So congratulations.
01:33:15.168 --> 01:33:16.010
[SPEAKER_04]: You did a nice job.
01:33:16.210 --> 01:33:19.314
[SPEAKER_04]: I tried to, you know, I tried to fuck it all up and you did a nice job.
01:33:19.454 --> 01:33:22.739
[SPEAKER_04]: So, all right guys, we will see you.
01:33:24.740 --> 01:33:26.022
[SPEAKER_04]: next week.
01:33:26.222 --> 01:33:28.786
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01:33:33.332 --> 01:33:38.399
[SPEAKER_04]: Many many thanks and signing off from the number one knife leader podcast on this German Festival planet.
01:33:39.059 --> 01:33:39.941
[SPEAKER_04]: We are with you.
01:33:40.161 --> 01:33:40.782
[SPEAKER_04]: Bye bye.