Outer Orbit: Space for Smarter Government & Health

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Dallas Campbell: Welcome to Outer Orbit.

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This is our little bonus, extra bit of
podcast where we take one of our guests.

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We've got Gaurangi here thank you
for staying a little bit longer to

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talk about, all things connectivity.

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We covered a lot of ground in that
conversation, but there was one bit

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that I wanted to talk about, which is
unlocking space for government programme.

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What that is.

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We talked about the Arana Project before.

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But the unlocking space for government,
in terms of connectivity, quesque se?

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What is this?

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What does it mean?

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Okay, so
unlocking space for government.

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I think it's a bigger programme
that UK space Agency is running,

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and the entire idea is to sort of
explore the use of space in areas

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where it has not been used yet.

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Dallas Campbell: And It's pretty much,
space is kind of pretty much used

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everywhere, so I'm just trying to imagine
what areas that it's not being used in.

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Of course, the
idea is to get space technologies

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adopted in government agencies.

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If they have not been adopted yet, and
why have they not been adopted yet?

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So do a little bit of research about
why space technologies have not been

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adopted in certain government agencies,
and how can they be adopted better?

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Dallas Campbell: So give us an example
of areas and agencies and government

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that haven't using space technology.

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Currently the project
that we are running, which is in the

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Phase Two, it's running for two sectors,
transport and health, and that sort of

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got chosen after we did a little bit
of study in the first sector of where

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the adoption is prime and key and where
the movement is a little bit more.

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Within the health regime, it was
obviously very clear that to provide

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those services you need data and
with data you need connectivity.

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In the past as well, there have been
a lot of programmes where we have done

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pilots about using connectivity or
space connectivity in health practices.

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So ensuring a very remote GP surgery
is well connected or ensuring the

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on the move healthcare practitioner
has the means of connecting to

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internet while they're on the move.

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Because they would have to go
to people's house, not have

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connectivity, collect data,

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Dallas Campbell: Not have
the information they need.

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Not have the information
that they need, go to public wifi

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setting, upload the data, and this would
require like extra to and fro before

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they could actually get their work done.

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That's the area where the health
of unlocking space is targeting.

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So from very basic problem statements of
connecting very remote surgeries, people

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to ensure that they have the health
services, the care that they deserve, and

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also to add a bit of innovation on top
of it, using the space connectivity with

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say preventive and predictive models.

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Dallas Campbell: So people who live in
sort of remote areas, I can see how space

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technology is certainly gonna help them.

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But the sort of National Health
Service more generally is the

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ways that we can be using space
technology to make it more efficient.

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I mean, obviously we've all
got the NHS app these days.

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Well, the
NHS app is an app, right?

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You need sort of internet
to even access that.

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And that is just the NHS app.

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But imagine like real care services.

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You have had a fall, you have had a heart
attack, and you're unable to get the

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care or the service because you don't
have a GP which can connect you directly.

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You cannot connect to the
health service provider.

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So the problem is real.

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The problem is very real and when it
come to NHS strategies and their line

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of work, we are seeing a lot of movement
in remote monitoring, virtual wards,

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their appetite towards keeping people in
their homes and ensuring that cared, that

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there is a lot of drive towards ensuring
we do prevention rather than services.

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So for that there needs to be data
collected from people's homes and

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people so that we are ensuring
that, an action is taken as soon as.

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There's a lot of movement on the virtual
wards and the remote monitoring sort of

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thing, and when you want to implement
a virtual ward, the basic requirement

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is that very reliable connectivity.

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Dallas Campbell: And presumably
this technology can just make some

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triaging patients, for example,
more efficient and on a bigger

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scale in hospitals, for example.

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Totally,
it can start from triage.

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But there is no limit to where it'll stop.

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Because it'll end up probably
in robotic surgeries.

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Dallas Campbell: And presumably, I
mean, obviously Britain geographically,

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we're quite a small country.

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We've got a good connectivity generally,
but presumably developing this kind

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of technology, you could then export
it to other parts of the world.

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Absolutely, absolutely.

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That is one key factor.

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Development of that preventive
care as well is one thing that

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you can then share with the world.

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But for that you have to do the exercises.

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But also, within UK as well, in
very remote areas, we still will not

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have very reliable connectivity to
implement these kind of resources.

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This is mission critical again, right?

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You need that very strong and robust
line of communication between a

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doctor and a patient, and it cannot
break, and it cannot have those falls.

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It cannot have drops because
they're providing you critical

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information about the care and
they're monitoring your health.

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So even in very remote areas within
Britain, it is possible that we will

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not have this kind of service available.

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But at the same time, ambulances for
example, they're required to be fully

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connected at all times, and when they're
moving, they sort of drop connectivity.

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Obviously you drive.

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So you would probably know that when
you're driving, there are quite a

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few not spots that you're not able to
be connected in those areas and that

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will become very problematic for an
ambulance or a healthcare practitioner.

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Dallas Campbell: Yeah.

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Presumably an ambulance is gonna need
to know the best routes and if there's

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traffic and all the, all those...

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Or have
all sorts of connectivity.

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So we did a different project
as well where we ensured that

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ambulance had provision for
multiple form of connectivity.

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So it can connect to 5G, for example,
4G, 2G, and also the satellite

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connectivity or public wifi.

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So it targets that resilience
thing that we were talking before.

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Dallas Campbell: Unlocking
space for government.

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This programme is developing
these kinds of systems for

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different areas of government.

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So health, transport
and, and so where are we?

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Is there kind of an end to it or is
this just an ongoing programmeme?

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Gaurangi Bajpai: The appetite
or the ambition is to have

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those clear path of adoptions.

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Once you prove it and you target those
areas of showing the real impact of it,

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you want to create it as a service and a
product that is constantly being adopted.

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So it is not just looking into
technology, but also practices

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or pathways of adoption for it.

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So it's creating awareness about space
one and also informing the use of space

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in scenarios like this and ensuring
that people are aware of these pilots

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and if it's a good programme, if it's
a successful programme, it should lead

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into more adoption of space technology.

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Dallas Campbell: And, and is
our government, are they quite

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proactive in selling this idea
to government departments, you

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know, and to the public as well?

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We don't really hear about it enough.

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I suppose my question is, how's it going?

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Are governments really sort
of pushing this technology?

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Gaurangi Bajpai: Exactly, and it is really
interesting programme because they're

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working very close collaboration with us.

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It's not we are delivering to them,
but they're working together with us

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to sort of understand the pain points,
working with partners to get this adopted

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and sort of make the motion happen.

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There is work package around collecting
that information from different

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resources and ensuring it is translated
in normal language to public of

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saying that we have done these.

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This is the portfolio of work
that has been done before.

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This is the areas where space has
shown impact, where things have already

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adopted the application, where they
have already adopted Space Tech.

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So, we do address this pain point that
it is probably not talked about enough.

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So we want to talk about.

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Dallas Campbell: Good.

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Okay, well here we are talking about it.

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Thank you very much, Gaurangi.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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