Summer Breakfast with Jonno Edwards & Casey Treloar - 14 January 2026

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Speaker 1: Seven after six. Good morning to You're welcome to Wednesday, the fourteenth of January twenty twenty six. It's said to be a magnificent day here in Adelaide. Currently fourteen degrees in the city, a top of thirty. Yesterday was an absolutely magnificent day. As we look across Heima Square this morning, the sun just peeking over. It's said to be a huge day here on five double A breakfast though the premier on the program, this is a chat you do not want to miss. Yesterday a pretty, i'd say, extraordinary day in state politics. The premiere are becoming very emotional at a press conference. The fallout of Riders Week then playing out where we've seen it canceled all together obviously due to the five Double A jury that we had yesterday. They called it, they said they want it canceled, and well it's happened. It's what happens on five double A. But so much to play out from it. What does it mean for freedom of speech? A lot of criticism last night from the former director of the Writers' Week, Louise Adler on the seven thirty report. We'll play a bit of that. There's also accusations flying around on social media that the Premiere could be in some sort of concern with defamation towards the author that has been removed from Writers Week. Plenty to play out, and we're happy to take your thoughts on that. Eight double two to three double ow the number to ring. We're also off to Europe very shortly overnight really concerning announcements with Donald Trump getting involved with the Iran crisis, will pull that apart shortly. Renny will have the very latest in sport, the Strikers done and dusted, a pretty disappointing season for them. Tunorama is back in Port Lincoln. If anyone's competed in Tunorama, we'd love to hear it from you. And of course, well the Botanic Gardens Corpse Flower is returning, that smelly flower that everyone gets excited about it the Botanic Gardens each and every year. The former Premier of our state and the President of the Australian American Association, Stephen Marshall, will be on the program. Very keen to hear his thoughts on Kevin Rudd being removed or stepping down as US ambassador, but also as the Premiere of the Arts. You could almost say Stephen Marshall was very passionate about the arts and funding a lot of these festivals, including the Writers' Festival, So I'm very interested to hear what his thoughts are on the Writers' Week controversy that will play out. But we had to wheel out the big gun today as well, after what has been an extraordinary day in politics. We're just sixty six days away from a state election. We understand. We're bringing her back early. Stacy Lee will be on the program and she's coming out swinging with her assessment of what took place yesterday. What does it mean for the Labor Party, what does it mean for the Liberal Party? Is at their time to strike? We'll pull that all apart by Casey Trelocke.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Yes, good morning, John O, and good morning to all the listeners. Welcome back on this beautiful Wednesday. As you mentioned, John, a show packed full of stuff with things that have happened in the last twenty four hours. And yeah, really looking forward to I guess getting to the bottom of what's happened with this chaos from Writer's Week. And there's a lot of comments that are being made now you know, the idea that this is a moment of censorship, that the festival was untenable. It's a masterclass in poor governance. Of course, we will challenge the Premiere on that as well, and as you mentioned, there probably a key point, a pivotal moment for the Premier seeing him buckle under pressure. There was a lot of questions directed toward him at a press conference yesterday, not just Rights Week, but the idea of what happened in the wake of Josh Cavallo, with the allegations of homophobia coming from Adelaide United, other pressures he's under as well. There's a lot going on. Has mentioned sixty six days until the election. Now he cracked under the pressure. He felt the heat and we've seen a side that we haven't seen before. There was a lip quiver and it was quite emotional from him.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, I respect the Premier doing it because he's stood by his guns and we need to go back to the core issue here and we'll ask the Premier his version of events as well, because I think there's been a lot of miscrewed information saying well, the Premier's directed this as far as I'm aware, and we'll put it to the Premiere. The Premier was asked his advice on the situations. It wasn't a directive, no, and he doesn't have the power to do so he gave his advice and the writers we chose to do what they have done with it. And I respect the Premier for doing that because I think in all this controversy, in all of it, we've seemed to have forgotten what has happened five weeks ago, four weeks ago at Bonder and those family members are still mourning the loved ones that were killed in horrific atrocities. Now, yes, that was extremeist Islam, we know that. But if you're sitting here in Adelaide and you know what's taken place, and you're hearing from the Jewish community and everyone was calling on the premiere, you must do more to stop and senditism. So this is his advice. His advice is that maybe it's not a great idea to have this person at our Riders week, given the circumstances of that have played out.
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Speaker 2: Equally, though, I think a dangerous game to play in terms of connecting doctor Runda abdel Fatar with any links to what happened in Bondai. That was a very individual attack that happened there. I mean, she has made comments in the past, but she's also backed that up to say that, well, no, this was actually I was talking about a very specific political movement and it's not an attack on the everyday you know Jewish people here in Australia at all. Her a lot of her focus is on the war between Gaza and Israel. Again though it is controversial, so it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Speaker 1: And I think this is the thing. I sit with the Premiere on this, and obviously we sit in the middle here. We don't take either side, but I might sit with the Premier and back him in this because if this event went forward and the author performed and she did what she said whatever she wanted to say, given the full freedom, and if there was protests, if there were threats made towards her, or if a serious event took place where my terror attack could occur, we are in a heightened state of security. All bets are off the table. After BONDI, everyone would be running after the Premiere, everyone would be running after the police commissioner, which with Pitchforks saying you didn't do enough to prevent this and so I think that's where the Premier sits. He sits after what we've seen in Sydney and goes, look, I think let's put this on pause. Regardless if it was a pro Palestine author or a pro Israeli author, if the roles were reversed, I think the outcome would still be the same. And I think that's what's being lost. And I think people need to perhaps just pull themselves out. And I'm talking about those on the Rider's week board, and I think Louise Adler needs to give herself a bit of a reality check. I don't know her personally. I'm only going off what I've seen of her in the media of the last twenty four hours. But I think we need to remember that there are families that are grieving and Australia changed forever late last year, and the Premiere, the police Commissioner, at the authorities are the ones that are trying to protect, you know, any further instances taking place. I understand the freedom of speech side of things, but I think this is not where we're heading into that territory. That's my opinion.
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Speaker 2: But equally too, and again we've got to look at both sides. I mean doctor randaph abdul Fattard. The book she was to be here for Writer's Week to discuss is a novel called Discipline, which explores themes of ethical struggles and self censorship when confronting difficult truths. So if we're talking about censorship, that's exactly what our book was talking about.
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Speaker 3: So interesting contradiction there.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, We've got three hours to pull that apart, so that's a bit early obviously, Casey. You know I've been following it and we're up and about. But we're happy to take your calls on any topic this morning. And we are also keen to hear what are your favorite smells? Because I mentioned that the flower at the Botanic Gardens, the corpse flower, is set to flower this Weekken not the greatest smell, so let's change it up. What are your favorite smells?
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Speaker 4: Eight?
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Speaker 1: Double two three double ow, double low. We've got one hundred dollars Kent Town Hotel voucher to give away. Happy to take your calls on that, Happy to take your calls on Riders Week will jump into it after this twenty one after six. Good morning to you if you're joining us for the very first time a top of thirty degrees today currently fourteen degrees in the city. David and will back on Monday. Do not miss it. It's going to be a huge year here on five double. A plenty of texts coming in regarding the Riders week, but we're also keen to take your calls eight double two three double ow on your favorite smells. The corpse flower set to flower at the Adelaide Botanic Gardens this morning, but we want to hear you. What are your favorite smells? And I can see a couple of texts coming through, but we want to hear from you. Eight two three double doubleow the easiest way to win one hundred dollars at Kent Town Hotel voucher or yesterday case. We broke the news around about seven thirty that former Prime Minister and US Ambassador Kevin Rudd has chosen to step away from his role. Not expected to step away until March, but a lot of questions over was it his call and what does this mean for US relations. Bruce Woope is from the United States Center. He's a Senior Fellow and he's also the author of Trump's Australia. Bruce, Good morning to you and thank you for your time. What's your initial assessment? Do you think this was Kevin Rudd's decision? You're there, Bruce. I think we've lost Bruce there. We'll try and get Bruce back. What do you think of that initial situation? It was a bit peculiar yesterday that it was he's going to step down but not until March. Do you not think, maybe, Casey, it might have been a smarter idea to do it immediately.
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess we still don't know whose successor is, and you can't leave a hole over there for that role, so you need him to keep the seat warm, essentially until the next person can come in. I guess it probably hinges on. I mean, as we heard yesterday he did he has accepted a new job, still in New York, still in the US there, so look, maybe that's when his new job starts. We don't yet know the answers to these questions, but some really interesting names have obviously already come forward about who potentially that will be.
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Speaker 1: I think we've got Bruce here now, Bruce, good morning to you. Oh I can't get Bruce for some reason. That's it up. But while we sort out Bruce, let's jump into a few texts. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we have obviously spoken quite early already on the writerous Week situation. Many people also supporting. I guess the Premiere for speaking out as well. We've heard from Chris saying morning. While not his decision, I do respect the Premier for having a public opinion. Too often sit on the fence in these situations. Thank you Chris for that text from Andrew as well, after hearing writers Week talk on air, they came across as self centered, bereft of empathy, and totally blind current community sentiment.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that text.
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Speaker 1: I think Bruce for the very third.
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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, I'm out faster than right.
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Speaker 2: So Bruce, tell us, what do you make of what's unfolded there with the former Prime Minister Kevin rud stepping down.
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Speaker 5: I think he certainly, I think he stepped down. I'm sure that he was not pushed. I mean he is one of Prime Minister Alberizi's closest associates, trusted, long standing, and he delivered the goods. I mean, others may have other opinions. I think he just did an excellent job in attending to the relationship, or just across the board, trade arcus, tariff's all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: What are the optics, I guess from the US point of view in terms of what he was able to achieve. I mean, we we've heard from Trump and he he doesn't think much of his but others say, well, he still achieved a lot.
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Speaker 5: I think there was one trip that Marls, the Deputy Prime Minister, Marls made to Washington, which is really instructive. Here a twenty four hour visit the office review was pending. I think Australia was confident of the outcome, but it wasn't locked up so locked in. So Marls goes and in a twenty four hour period he sees the Vice President, he sees the Secretary of War, he sees the Secretary of State. And Rudd did that. That is a heavy lift. If he was on the outers with people in Washington, the power structure in Washington. Trump didn't like him, at least he told him to his face he didn't like him. But Rudd was not did not leave office when he left that room after Trump went at him directly. I think that all just says a lot. He really did a fine job.
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Speaker 2: Now there's been some suggestion in terms of who steps into this role next, Bruce, is it someone with former political form? Is it someone who would have you know, do we just find someone we know he's going to have a good relationship with Trump?
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Speaker 3: How do you see you.
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Speaker 2: Know, the next person being chosen based on you know, their resume essentially.
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Speaker 5: I think the best choice right now is to have a career, a very senior career public servant who's expert on all the issues and all the structures and the relationship, the alliance and so forth. I think it's better to have that type of person than a former political figure. Two reasons. One, the politics you don't want they examine Trump's team examines everyone. If he's a former premier who is for clean energy, well Laura Lumer will get on X and just say this person is against Trump's agenda and create problems. But if you have someone in the style of Dennis Richardson who is it can absolutely execute on top of the issues, that would be great. But the timing is really important here. The midterm elections are in November. They will determine the control of Congress, and then the presidential election will begin immediately after the midterms. In November because the next election is twenty twenty eight, So you want someone on the ground who is already reading the political situation this year and can capitalize on Australia's interests and figure out what's going to happen, why it's going to happen, what Australia needs to do to get good outcomes. They need this year's experience to do even better for twenty twenty eight in the presidential election. So I think the timing works, I really do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. Obviously we've seen former LABA ministers Jolls, fitz Given and Stephen Conroy. They're appearing to be the front runners to place Kevin Rudd. We've also heard word of Scott Morrison. Scott Marrison heavily involved in I guess a lot of US politics went to the Trump inauguration. I think a lot of us should remember that, and we're maybe a little bit surprised by But he obviously aligns with a lot of the views with Trumps and the conservative view. But still plenty to play out. But we appreciate you Tom this morning. Prince Wilby from the United States Studies Center is a Senior fellow and an author of Trump's Australia. It is really interesting and I think a lot of people enjoy learning about the trade relationships between the US and Australia because it does mean a lot to us, particularly here in Australia, and what it means for orcas a lot of jobs on the line. So whoever does take the role better have their a game coming in so we'll see what plays out. Casey. We are taking calls this morning eight double two to three, double low, double loow your favorite smell The corpse flower set to flower this weekend at the Adelaide Botanic Guns. If you don't know what the corpse flower is, it is the flower that well it stinks, it absolutely pong. So we're turning it around. We're doing your favorite smells. Dave and south Brighton. Good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: One and guys. I think the most fantastic smell in the world is the smell of a newborn baby.
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Speaker 5: You know, when you get to hold and puddle that baby.
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Speaker 7: Or whatever it's.
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Speaker 4: He enjoy the smell, that's nice.
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Speaker 2: But the smell of the you know, the the head and the hair of the baby, it is quite unique. Thank you Dave for your suggestion. There what's your favorite smell?
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Speaker 8: Johnn It.
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Speaker 1: I like lawn, A big lawn guy.
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Speaker 8: Oh my lord, lawn.
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Speaker 1: You can't.
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Speaker 2: You also can't go past opening a packet of salt and vinegar chips and the sensation that kicks in.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. Oh yeah, coffee, freshly ground coffee. That's a pretty simple.
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Speaker 3: One fresh bag of beans. Beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right. Let's check sport and not a good night for the Adelaide's strikers. Tom ran Is in the five double a breakfast studio all thanks to Agassino, Misubishi, Nailsworth and more. Some lakes for the Outlander. Yes, drive away from thirty nine nine ninety Renny. The strikers done and dusted.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, good morning, casey morning John. I. They were terrible last night. It probably sums up their season. Unfortunately, bolt out for only eighty three. This is how the match finished. Let's have a listen. Just struggling with the order, that's all right, but yeah, look, disappointing performance for the strikers. They go down by six wickets. So yeah, it's a couple of seasons in a row. There's some good signs there, Liam Scott, I think has taken more improvement this season and he's going to be a really good player for a long time. I actually think he'll end up playing for Australia in the white ball format. But boy, it's yeah, it's just not great for them. Unfortunately, they just don't seem to have it all together, which is really disappointed.
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Speaker 1: Still, I think got quite an enjoyable season for the fans. Chris Lynn made plenty of runs. Obviously, Alex Carey returning to the side still a good win. Well, I guess a good couple of wins that we saw in the early part of the season, but just not really hitting their straps.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and look, you know half the sides make it, so to miss it two seasons in a row is you know, it leaves you a bit flat. But the Melbourne Stars are a decent side. But yeah, there's a bit for them to work through, I think and Rash he'd Cahn. They've really struck since he's not been there, so you know, their bowling has looked a lot thinner without him in there.
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Speaker 1: He sort of held them.
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Speaker 9: Together for a long time, but unfortunately not to be. But the news is much better at the Adelaide International. The Aussie's are continuing to win. A great win last night Alexander Ukich beatste Final sits a Pass which was a big upset. And then we also had Maya Joint, who I think is going to be our number one women's tennis player for some time. She's very young and had a great twenty twenty five. She beat former Strain and Open winners of Here Kennon. So for Nazi Cock and Arcis tonight, fingers crossed. He can get it done the Aussie and let's hope the body's okay. He was really sore after the last win a couple of days ago, so it's a big night tonight ahead, Good on.
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Speaker 1: You're ready. Twenty two to seven. Good morning to you if you're joining us before the very first time. It's said to be a magnificent day right across Adelaide, as you heard with Malaysia. The sun peeking across Mount Lofty this morning, a top of thirty degrees yesterday was magnificent, wasn't it.
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Speaker 3: If you're enjoying it, there's a whole week of this way.
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I forgot. We've got a weather expert in the building, of course, But this morning we're taking your calls on your favorite smells eight double two three double o double one hundred dollars Kent Town Hotel Voutcher to give away. Frank, Good morning to.
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Speaker 10: You, Good morning to you all. There my favorite smell which was only available very early in the morning, about quarter sorry, six thirty in the morning with the colsh Shopping Center bakery, and I can guarantee you get twelve of them, and half of them will be gone by the time when to work or got to work. Hot cinnamon doughnuts.
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Speaker 1: Oh good one, Okay, No, I like it. I like cinnamon in itself.
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Speaker 2: And it's a smell that wafs through the aisles at the Royal Adelaide show as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the smell of cinnamon in mead. Have you had mead before? Muld wine? Oh God, I'm going to sound like an alcoholic here, but it is magnific. Luke in Queenstown good morning to you.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, guys. My favorite smell would have to just a rain.
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Speaker 3: Ah yes, after some.
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Speaker 1: Petrick or that's what it's called fun fact Paul Kelly song. Just for those following along at home, petrickle, I love it, the smell of rain after a boiling hot day. Good on you, Luke. Join the conversation. Eight double two to three double o double oh. The number to ring before we jump into our next interview. We are receiving words it's been a busy night for Sapole, multiple suspicious fires. We're also receiving some sad news that potentially another motorcycle accident at Elizabeth Grove overnight and another car into a tree. So we'll await updates from Sapole. They'll join us very shortly. But let's change tack and head to an event that you know and love. Casey oh.
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Speaker 2: Port Lincoln one of my favorite places. We holiday there every year in February. My mum grew up there. Fun fact, my grandfather was the mayor of Port Lincoln. But we're going to throw now to the current mayor of Portlncoln. That is Diana Mislov. Good morning to you. The town must be buzzing.
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Speaker 3: Diana. Tunorama not far away.
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Speaker 12: Good morning, and yes it is. We're very excited to bring it back, so looking forward to the activities that start Thursday, and yeah, very exciting time.
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Speaker 1: The Tunorama has had its struggles in the past, has it a government funding crowd attendances. Obviously COVID not helping any events. How does it bounced back from all those struggles.
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Speaker 12: Well, it used to be community led, so there was some volunteer fatigue and you know, sponsorship was difficult to raise, and like you said, COVID really put a dampener on things. So the committee folded and council took upon it itself to protect the intellectual property, to purchase that, to make sure that things iconic, things like the tunatos, which I'm sure cases had a crack at, stay on for generations to come. So a council resurrected it, rebranded it, has given it a refresh if you like, and had a look at all the events that were conducted in the past. We've brought it back in a slightly different way. We're honoring beginning the whole festival by honoring our blessing.
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Speaker 4: Of the fleet.
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Speaker 12: We're at all original, originated with our fishing industry, and some of the old favorites are definitely there, the fireworks, the parade, you know, the tun of titles as I mentioned, and we've got some new things as well. So we've got a concert it's called Rock the Bay, which is going to be held on centenary Oval and we've got some great acts lined up for that one, living and performing and locals, all sorts you know, DJs, all sorts of activity there. So yeah, it's great to be able to rebring it back home Tuneramas in our DNA as a people so and as a community and we love sharing it with visitors. So we're looking brought to.
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Speaker 2: A great crowd and bought Lincoln of course known as Australia's seafood seafood capital. Of course it is about celebrating the seafood that has caught and produced there. But also this year Diana, a local star, is sort of helping, you know, bring the bring the festival to life.
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Speaker 13: That's right.
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Speaker 12: So we did used to have an ambassador quest where we had entrance you know, raising money and judging and so on. But we've appointed an ambassador and that's our own Kyle Chalmers. So we're delighted that he's been able to bring the brand of Tunorama back and he'll be mixing it with locals.
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Speaker 13: We've got to.
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Speaker 12: Swim through a vent now I believe he's not actually going to take to the water, but he'll be there coaching people on, which is probably a good idea, and maybe swimming.
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Speaker 2: From the King of the Ball I like that. Will we see him though, partake in a tunaitos?
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Speaker 12: Oh, I'm sure he'll be there. He might be MCing, you know, he has to protect his shoulders and zeke and everything. But we certainly hope if he's up for it. You know, we'd love to see him throw something. So maybe we can get him in the prawn toss. That shouldn't be too hard for him, I reckon.
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Speaker 1: Anyone going on incredible, Well, we cannot wait.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, we've got the seafood happening. There's a beautiful gala dinner, so we've got all our seafood on you know, produce on display and there for the picking. So yeah, we're really looking forward to showcasing all the very best of the Lower Air of Ninsula.
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Speaker 1: Well, we certainly cannot wait. It's going to be a magnificent festival. Great for our country towns. We do have some really amazing country towns here in South Australia. And Port Lincoln, or drinking as some might call it, certainly an institution here in South Australia. How did you go, Casey when you had a crack.
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Speaker 7: Look.
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Speaker 2: I'll admit I've I have shoulder is shoes myself, So the tuna toss was never my cup of tea.
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Speaker 3: That is a big food.
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Speaker 2: Eat the gala dinner that Dyna Mislov mentioned there, it's just spectacular. They put off a big marquee right the foreshore next to the statue of Mackaybee Diva there and serve up some of the best and freshest seafood.
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Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.
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Speaker 1: Magnificent quarter to seven. We're taking your calls on your favorite smell Mark from West Crowdon. Good morning to.
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Speaker 8: You guys, Good morning to you all.
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Speaker 6: Happy New Year.
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Speaker 5: I've got it's a bit of a combination.
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Speaker 4: The smell of my freshly cut.
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Speaker 5: Lawn with the fumes of my two stroke.
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Speaker 7: Bower Yes iconic fortune.
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Speaker 1: Yeah two stroke as well for those that my lawns, I mean, I love my old lawns like you, Mark, and the smell of two Stroke firing up in the morning, doing your lawns and then when it's a stinking hot day, sitting down having a beer and then watching your lawn glisten in the summer, put your sprinklers on. Oh God, tell you what, you can't go past it. Yes, Mark appreciate your call. So I'm just giving away how much I like lawns. You can't blame me. I spent a lot of the money on my lawn. Let's say to the weather Bureau. Daniel Sherwin Simpson is on, Judy. Daniel, good morning to you. You've done well yesterday and I think you're delivering another amazing day today. Yeah.
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Speaker 8: I reckon it'll be a bit of a repeat, very similar conditions. Yesterday we only got down to fourteen point four. Today overnight it got down to around fifteen or so degrees. That's still where we're sitting now on for a maximum of thirty Yesterday was twenty nine point nine. So I think really it's going to be a bit of groundhog Day for at least today, So very sunny conditions lovely whether throughout Adelaide. Tomorrow things will take a little bit of a turn, but it won't be too awful. We'll just see a pretty fresh, subtly wind start to pick up through the afternoon that I'll go fairly blowy about the hills because it's coming from the south. It'll bring the temperatures down to about twenty six degrees or so. There's a very slight chance we could see a shower in Adelaide, but it's more likely to sort of just fall on the back of the loft. He's possibly making it to the southern suburbs like nor longer. So look, my best guess, I think we're probably not looking at any rainfall for the city. We've still yet to see any rainfall for the year in Adelaide, so if that's what you're after, unfortunately, it's probably looking like it's unlikely, so you might want to move a bit further south as we move into the later parts of the week. Twenty seven. Still a little bit cooler on Friday, but for the start of the tour on the weekend, generally hanging around low to mid thirty so fairly sort of average warm. Summary weather coming.
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Speaker 1: Up, magnificent. Daniel Sherwin Simpson from the Bureau, Thank you for your time. They're getting it right at the Weather Bureau at the moment. I think it's probably your influence, Casey, when you tell them tell me what the weather is at seven, you only want to hear good weather.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty easy to forecast when it's conditions like this, I mean, mostly dry and sunny, relatively warm. Sadly, though, as mentioned, they're no sign of rain yet. We in our two weeks into January, no rain in the week ahead still probably looks like no rain, and the long range stuff is looking pretty grim too, So sadly it looks as though it's going to be another really, really tough year across South Australia. I would I would love for that forecast to be wrong. I would love to see some more rain on the way this year and see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely all right, let's head to Sape I'll seeing you. Constable Matt Hale is on Judy. Matt, good morning to you. Unfortunately, it's been a terrible knight on our roads once again in a fatality at Elizabeth Grove.
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Speaker 13: Yes, I'm very sad. Indeed, just after seven thirty pm last night. Please we're called to sandal Heath Road at Elizabeth Groove after a crash between a dirt bike and a Mazda Suv. Sadly, as you say, the driver, I'm sorry. The rider, twenty five year old man from Elizabeth, died at the scene and the driver of the car was uninjured. When the roads there were closed for several hours but now they've reopened. Major crash investigators or continue to investigate and that, and yeah, please contact crime stoppers one eight hundred to triple three, triple zero if you've got dash cam or can assist that investigation. And it's the seventh life lost on our roads.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty frightening.
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Speaker 2: We're only two weeks in and already so many fatalities so far this year, Matt.
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Speaker 3: Also, there's a serious crash that's happened.
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Speaker 13: At Blair, Yes, and another bad crash here. So just before two thirty am this morning, police responded to the intersection of Upper Sturt Road and Laffers Road after a car had crashed into a tree. Upper Sturt Road is currently closed in front of the Belair National Park along with the section of Laffers Road. Major crash investigators are also at that scene and.
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Speaker 2: Police of a chase the start at Mansfield Park this morning. How's that unfolded?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, this was quite a long pursuit here, but women and a boy have both been arrested after filling to stop to the police at Mansfield Park overnight. So it was about two fifteen am this morning the police spotted a mass of the car driving radically on Bartley Terrace on West Lake Shore. Police attempted to stop that car and it didn't. It was successfully spiked on Military Road. However, the mass that continued to drive on its rims so really continued pretty termed to keep going here and so finally come to a stop servo at Grand Junction Road on Mansfield Park. The driver, a twenty eight year old woman from Pennington, and a passenger, at seventeen year old boy from Salisbury North were quickly arrested. Now the women has been charged with a number of traffic offenses, including the dust driving to escape the police pursuit, driving a motor vehicle without any consent, and her bill was refused. She'll appear in court today. The boy involved, he was charged with driving a motor bagle with out their winners consent as well and his bill was refused. He'll be in the Youth court later today.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, plenty happening overnight for SAPOM will continue to follow both the fatality and the serious crash Apple Lair traffic delays where we're blair at the moment as well, so we'll cross to the scene a little bit lighter but good on you. Matt send you comes to Matt Hale from Sapol. We'll check traffic and we'll come back with your calls on your favorite smells. Eight double two three double low double low seven after seven. Good morning to you and welcome to Wednesday, the fourteenth of January. If you're just waking up or heading into work, a big show on the way the premiere on the program after eight am. The former Premier Stephen Marshall also on the program. We're going to pull apart what has been a huge week or a huge day in state politics with Writers Festival being canceled. The influence from the premiere. Was it an implication or has this been beaten up. We're going to pull it apart because there's so much fallout from this the premiere today in Portagusta, making it another huge election announcement. We'll pull all of that apart, so do not go anyway. But we want to hear from you this morning. Eight double two to three double o double oh your favorite smells, because well maybe there's a smell which will be floating around the Botanic gardens which is not too flash. And Matt Culter is the horticultural curator for plant Propagation at the Adelaide Botanic Gardens. Matt, good morning to you. Is this an exciting time for you or is this a stressful time of you for you with some weird and strange smells floating around the gardens?
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Speaker 14: Good morning, No, So it's very exciting for any time we have one of these players able to show it to the public. It's really exciting to such a unique plant. And yeah, it's really fantastic be able to show the public this special plant.
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Speaker 2: Now, it's remarkable, this particular plant. It attracts thousands to the garden when it does bloome. Of course, the last time we saw it happened was in twenty twenty three. But tell us Matt, for those who haven't seen it before or aren't familiar with it, what exactly does it smell like?
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so it has that real sort of dead rat sort of smell. And other people think it's most like fermenting cabby. Some people think it's most like old socks. It has this really complex sort of aroma. But the interesting thing about it actually pulses the smell as it grows, and it's pushing the smell away from the plant, and then when you're in the conservatory you get to these sort of areas whether the smell just sort of stops and lingers. But yeah, the way it actually pulses is really quite interesting. And it only does it for a very short period, so just for twenty four to forty eight hour period the plant's flowering, So in the wild, that would have been the night that it can get pollinated. And what it's trying to do is attract insects that think they're going to lay their eggs on a bit of dead carcass. So yeah, and even the color of the space, like as it's open, has this really dark moraine sort of color, and yeah, sort of replicating a dead animal, but it has that real yet dead sort of rat sort of smell. It's quite intense.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be listening and rely on the advice of Michael Kielan to just get their own garden growing, let alone a flowers. There are only flowers at a certain time of year. What care and extra maintenance is required to get this corpse firing on all cylinders?
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Speaker 14: Yes, so we grave this plant up at the mountain off if you can, government, we have propagation as we have a special glasshouse to grow it to replicate the Smutan rainforest where the plant originates in the world, so why is sort of very warm and humid sort of condition to replicate that. So we didn't have the greenhouse glass out facility, wouldn't be able to grow out doors in South Australia or the only place that in Australia would be grown outdoors is in the tropics. So yeah, we're very lucky to have the facility where we can grow it. And this plant's one of our original plants, were original seeds that we received back in two thousand and six, so it stay with twenty years old now and it's only second time and it's flowered and a flowered this particular plant flowed in twenty twenty one, even though we had another different plant in twenty twenty three, but yeah, this flowered in twenty twenty one and coming back in the flower again. And it usually takes up to ten years for that first flower to happen, but there's a lot of work to get flowers that one day is to be able to show the public. But yeah, being able to show people this remarkable plants really very exciting for us.
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Speaker 2: Now I have to ask Matt. You mentioned you know the type of smell. I mean, others are referred to it as as rotting flesh. If you go along and you've got your clothes on for that day, does it linger in.
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Speaker 3: Your clothes after?
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Speaker 2: Do you have to wash them later or is it just a smell at the time and it disappears as you as you depart.
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Speaker 14: No, it definitely gets into your clothes, so a warning.
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Speaker 3: Don't don't go in your finest.
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Speaker 14: Then No, think you get into your hair and things like that as well, so we can get up close to it. So but yeah, it does, it does get in does get into your clothes, and as I said before, it actually moves around before you walk into the conservatory. You'll be able to smell it from outside the conservatory. So it's quite remarkable how it's trying to push the smell away from the planet as much as possible, and sometimes further away from the plant is actually strong to smell than up closed. But yeah, it definitely it does does get into your skin.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope no one's got their wedding plan over the next couple of days or maybe this week. The corpse plant go down well anyway, Good on your Matt. We appreciate your time this morning. Matt Calter from the Adelaide Botanic Gardens. This is the weekend to go up and see it. If you want to smell it and experience all things corpse flower, your call.
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Speaker 3: It's up to you.
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Speaker 1: Casey. So much feedback on the text line regarding Adelaide right this week, and we're going to jump into it after the seven o'clock news and do a bit of a wrap with what played out yesterday, because I'm sure there's a lot of people that headed to work and maybe didn't see the news last night, but a huge day for the premiere. He became quite emotional. It then followed a lot of statements coming out from a lot of the writers. We saw Louise Adler releasing a statement saying that she's stepping down to The Guardian. We then saw a press conference by Arts Minister Andrew and Michaels announcing a new board. There's then been comments on social media from a number of key writers comparing that maybe the premiere made some defamatory comments. Still plenty to play out, but we're here to take your thoughts this is what five double A is all about. We want to hear what your thoughts are. Sally from Hillcrest, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 15: Good morning, How are you.
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Speaker 1: We're good, Sally, what are your thoughts on what played out yesterday?
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Speaker 15: It's kind of boath like. I can see it how its censorship, but at the same time I can see that you say didn't do something. People would then be saying, how can you let someone like this.
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Speaker 10: Talk?
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Speaker 15: But my question is back in twenty twenty four. I may be wrong, but I believe that the writer who started all this this time, when they told her that she wasn't welcome at the festival, she actually asked the Israeli writer that was due in twenty twenty four asked the board to disallow him because of all the atrocities that were happening over there with Gaza and Palestine and everything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, your spot on, Sally, that is very much the story. And I think this is why it's there is so much controversy and people asked so angry because it seems like we're happy to protect freedom of speech for some and not for others. But we'll pull that apart. After the seven o'clock News six after seven. Good morning to you if you're joining us for the very first time. A top of thirty degrees right across Adelaide, currently fifteen degrees in the city. It's said to be a magnificent day and it's going to be a big show, a big couple of hours to come. The premiere on the program. It was a huge day yesterday in state politics, and we saw a side of Peter Malinowskus that I don't think we've seen before at a press conference at Mount Barker, which will jump into very shortly a big announcement into the future of Mount Barker. However, all eyes on Writers Week and the criticism of him perhaps offering his opinion, some suggesting that maybe he has more power to determine who could appear than what was previously advised. But have a listened to the premiere. He was at his wits end when discussing it yesterday.
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Speaker 13: To my best to.
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Speaker 7: Do some of my conscious and offer a view that I believe is consistent with the interests of compassion at advancing the cause of people treating each other with.
00:38:47
Speaker 1: Decency and humanity.
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Speaker 16: Regardless of that background, Genia.
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Speaker 9: We want to try it to him.
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Speaker 1: He was very emotional, and we haven't seen that side of the premiere, I think in recent times. And I understand it because I think he was trying to do what he thought was right in trying to protect those that might be have been persecuted after what we saw in Bondi. And he's had the kitchen sink thrown on him, people criticizing him left, right and center. I think unfairly.
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Speaker 2: He's gopped a lot of criticism both from the public and of course, as we heard too from the director of Writers Week who announced that she was stepping down yesterday.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot playing out there.
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Speaker 17: But I wonder where his compassion and humanity and sensitivity was to doctor Randa Abdulphutter and the fact that her work as a Palestinian writer, academic, esteemed award winning writer, and the history that she carries with her and the recent events where seventy thousand Palestinians have been killed in Gaza. Where is the shared humanity and the understanding and compassion for doctor Randa Abdulphutter.
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Speaker 1: I think anyone that would have seen the seven thirty report, I think would have witnessed how out of touch Louise Adler and the board of the Writers' Week actually are in trying to defend this author's actions. We're all here for freedom of speech. Let me say that very clearly. But what the Premier was doing I said it a little bit earlier, but I'll say it again, is four weeks ago, five weeks ago, we were standing hand in hand with the Jewish community and we were mourning what was the worst terror attack that we've seen here in Australia. The Premiers, obviously very impacted by that, stood had in hand with Norman Schiller, aware of what took place, the calls and criticism towards the federal government for not handling anti Semitism. So the Premier, as my understanding, made a call let him know, was asked his opinion, do you think this is a good idea? The Premier said no, given the recent circumstances, I don't think it's a good opinion.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there was a lot of assumption that the Premier made this directive, that he was the one that came in and came to Adelaide's Writer's Week and said, no, you can't have this writer. You need to pull the pin that was not the case. He was simply asked on advice. He gave his advice, his opinion, his thoughts in terms of being conservative and thinking of the Jewish people in the wake of the Bondaie attack. But of course, as we mentioned there, we heard Louise Adler make connection that you know, suggests that the whole idea of it has been a very clumsy connection between the Bondie attack and doctor Roger Abdelfhata. That's what Louise Adler is saying. It's not everyone's opinion.
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Speaker 1: No, because if there was an incident here, if there were protests at Adelaide Rider's Week, if there was anti Semitic behavior, if there was an attack at Adelaide Rider's Week, which is a very.
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Speaker 3: Rare, no indication there was any of it. No, there was happen.
00:41:36
Speaker 1: But if it was to happen and the Premier is going to act on the security advice, he would have been thrown to the wolves saying you haven't done it much, but done enough. That's what is happening to the Prime Minister at the moment. So look, the premiere on the program after eight o'clock will get the exact version of events. From him. We've made the offer to both the author and also the former Writers Director Festival director Louise Adler to come up the program. They've chosen to not respond to our request for interview. We've also made contact with the Writers Festival themselves and asked if they would like to put anyone up. They have chosen not to, And I think it just shows a lot of people's disdaining towards the whole controversy of this, really and it's really interesting how this has played out, Johnno, because for the most part, many South Australians maybe either haven't heard of Adelaide Writers Week, even though it's a massive event on the calendar here. But there's a lot of people that you know, wouldn't necessarily have interest in the event. But it has generated the argument and the topic and we're having still a lot of texts come through.
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Speaker 3: Even just now.
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Speaker 2: The cancelation of Writers Week and all the people crying about it just shows how many people you censorship as an excuse to push any anti Semitic or racist views. So a lot of people talking about this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, abs certainly, all right, let's change tack and well, an election is on the way and well, each and every day we're seeing announcements by the Premiere and his government, but also the opposition. And yesterday we saw well plans revealed from our Barker and a lot of listeners would have well potentially live up there, commuted through there, would know someone that's moved into the area. It is, without a doubt the biggest growing area in South Australia and it requires investment to try and I guess assist those that were originally living in this small town which has turned into this sprawling suburb. And yesterday their new candidate for Cavell, traditionally very much a Labor seat, but a man we know is David Leach, the former mayor, announcing a range of measures and a huge record investment to bring Mount Barker up to speed. David Leach joins us. Now, good morning to you, David. A welcome announcement around about two hundred million set to be invested in Mount Barker should Labor be re elected in March.
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Speaker 11: That's exactly right, John, I And just as a minor correction, I'm still the mayor of Mount Barker.
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Speaker 1: You're still the mayor, still live it here.
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Speaker 11: But I've taken leave and elected not to get paid my stype in while I campaigned for three months. This is a great outcome for Mount Barker, particularly given that we are getting to be a very large town and we're bordering on going to be the next city and the next largest city after you guys in Adelaide.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the growth is extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: I was only driving there through last weekend, and you know, over the years we've seen the incredible expansion of more and more houses, thousands of houses, and even you know, toward the southeastern end of town there's more plots that are being flattened out and leveled ready for even more homes. A lot of the locals, they're having issues with transport and traffic flow and being able to a lot of people live in Mount Barker and commute to the city and transport is among this the two hundred million dollars potentially to be spent.
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Speaker 11: It is and fixing the Adelaide and Hawthorne Road intersection, which anybody who lives in Mount Barker or travels through to the other towns, I know that intersection is just an absolute nine. As soon as someone turns right, fifty percent of the traffic comes to a holt in the town, So that fixing that alone will just be a major solution to some of the traffic issues that we're having in Mount Barker. And you talk about the gross we're only twenty five percent of the way through building those houses. If you think there's a lot there now, there's going to be more times that by the time they've finished developing that cool patch of development.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Now, what do you make of the opposition's comments David suggesting that this announcement is nothing short of pork barreling.
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Speaker 11: Well, ben Hood may choose to make that statement. If he says this is Paul Barreling, I'd prefer to say this is bringing home the bacon.
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Speaker 1: Now, it's a fair thought. We're going to see a new pharmacy, a new Mount Barker High School, We're going to see a new tape and a new Mount Barker Police station. Obviously, it's very much a traditional liberal heartland being in the Adelaide Hills. We've seen Isabelle Redmond in the seat previously, then obviously Dan Creagan, who's now stepping down. How do you feel heading into that territory, you know the community, well, you've chosen to join the Labor Party and stand with the Labor Party. Do you feel like you've got community support to do so.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely. I've already been outdoor knocking and calling people during hot weather. There's no dubt in my mind that Carvill is ready to become a Labor seat. I wouldn't be doing this on this. I thought there was a really good hope and chance that this would work. And the reason I'm doing it is I was asked by the Premier. He said to me, Carvill is a seat we've never had. It's one that lots of young people are coming into. And he said, may if you're if you're willing to have a crack, I'll support you all the way. And I said to him, we're going to need a few things fixed if that's going to happen, and he said, sure, start telling me. And I was surprised that what I asked for he said, we can manage this, and then he added a couple of extra things like the tape and the police station.
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Speaker 1: Public transport is a thing that I think a lot of Hills residents have been waiting for. They want high speed rail, whether it be murray Bridge or Mount Barker. It's something that will need to be addressed in the future. I know we've got record investment happening with the Tynes to Daling project, which is going to mean that we can't roll out transport projects left right and center. But a rail line to Mount Barker or extended to murray Bridge. Is that something that you would like to see happen.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely, because if you're going to have a city the size that we're going to have up here, and also the development in our neighboring town city of murray Bridge, that rail needs to be builds the time for it to happen. It's not going to be this year or next year, but at some stage we're going to have to build it. The reason it's not going ahead right now is that we can't get the train times faster than the express buses to the city. But once were and work out different rounds for the train to go and maybe provide the infrastructure for them, a role will definitely be needed up here at some sort.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly a tough challenge to navigate there. David Leech there the new labor candidate for carvill there in Mount Barker, promising two hundred million dollars to be spent if they are re elected.
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Speaker 3: We'll wait and see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, plenty to have it. I think a lot of people in that region have been yearning for investment because it has grown so quickly, and it is you know, you drive around Mount Barker, it is gridlock, left, right and center. A lot of people trying to move to the hills for affordable housing for I guess a bit of a sea change and their slap bang in suburbia now.
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Speaker 2: And you mentioned that the train line as well. We've heard from Andrew in the text line saying that yeah, Mount Barker really does need a train line.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: It's the next thing.
00:48:47
Speaker 2: Most of the train lines still exists, it just needs to be connected up to Mount Barker. But as David mentioned there, at the end of the day, the trains can't get to the city any faster than the express buses. So a real challenge there and high hopefully a problem that can be solved in the future.
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Speaker 1: Let's change tech and right. Across Australia, we've seen a number of natural disasters, whether it be last year with multiple cyclones, we've seen bushfires in most recent days at in Victoria. What does it mean for our insurance premiums? Because well, the environment is changing, we will know it whether it's becoming more and more extreme. And while I'm certain that our insurance premiums are going up. Matthew Jones is from the Insurance Council of Australia. Matthew, good morning to you and thank you for your time. What does this mean for every day South Australian seeing these events take place into state even here in South Australia, It's going to cost the bottom line eventually.
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Speaker 18: All we do know is the premiums have been rising over the last year is because of extreme weather risk, but also because of inflation in the building and motor repair sector and the value of the things that we own. So they're all causing insurance costs to go up and unfortunately there has to be reflected in the premiums.
00:49:59
Speaker 2: It is it going to be frustrating for South Australians though looking at the eastern states, I mean the major bush fires are happening in Victoria, some in New South Wales too, the flooding events happening in Queensland. Here in South Australia, certainly in the last couple of years we've gotten out relatively unscathed. I know we've had bushfires before, but is it going to be frustrating if we bear the brunt still of these insurance premium rises even though you know most of this action is happening East.
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Speaker 18: Well, there's kind of two answers to that question. Money is that insurance have got a pretty good idea of the risk at a household level, and they're able to price at a household level, so if you live in a less risky area, then you're more likely to pay less in your insurance premium. But the other is that insurance, the whole concept of insurance is that the premiums of the many pay for the claims of a few. And that doesn't just apply in Australia. It actually applies across the world. Insurance is a globally connected business. Reinsurance, which is a big part of insurance costs, is purchased on the global stage. And it's not just things on the Eastern part of Australia events on the Eastern part of Australia which can impact premiums. It's events like hurricanes in Florida or and earthquakes in Japan, they can push up the cost of reinsurance for all the insurance around the globe, and we all end up paying for that. And that's why we've been saying to the federal government, because we can only affect you know, what happens in this country. But they need to invest more in things that in projects that bring down risk, because insurance places risk. If the risk is lower than the premium will be lower as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, Well it's not going to help our bottom line. A lot of people, I think it's choosing to go without insurance, particularly car insurance at the moment because they simply can't afford the premiums and when they do have an accident, they can't afford the excess. So it's concerning, and I guess that's the future of a changing environment, changing and more severe weather conditions. We have to be prepared that more damage will occur. We'll check traffic and we'll come back with more surely. Twenty four after seven, looking to be a magnificent day here in Adelaide and in the suburbs, a top of thirty degrees, the sun shining in a high marsh square. We're keen to hear from you this morning if you've got a thought on the Rider's Week controversy lines available eight double two three double ow. Do you think it's oppression of free speech? Do you think it was the right call? I mean, obviously the event now being canceled, which will devastate I think a lot of people that love the arts industry casey, but the text line seeming to reflect them there, maybe people think it's the good call. Just can it a cigarettes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and many agreeing with your sentiment, John O that Louise Adler's intervention, you know last night, we'll it appeared very out of touch and can we not show a bit of compassion to a community that has so recently been devastated, Cam admitting he's not a great reader, but he is shocked at the author's behavior. So yeah, plenty of people have their say on what's happened, what's unfolded in the last twenty four hours for Dalaid right week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. The premiere on the program after eight am, we're also here from Stephen Marshall, the former Premier of South Australia now in the US, regarding the decision of Kevin Rudd to step down we'll also speak to him about what his thoughts are on the Riders' Week festival conselation. Obviously we know a big fan of the art's a big advocate through his time in parliament. But let's change check and I think there's with the housing crisis, we've seen a lot of people move into temporary accommodation which has become permanent accommodation, and a lot of that seems to happen here at caravan parks and residential parks. I know if you go down to Seacliffe, the caravan park down there, up at Port Broughton, you've got people that well, it used to be just their holiday home. It used to be just a temporary spot, but it's turned into permanent accommodation where people are having to live because they simply can't afford to live anywhere else. And it's called or it's create we a hadd A calls for reforms to be made in legislation so that people know that affordable housing can happen, because we've seeing more and more people forced into temporary accommodation. Stephen Edwards is from SA Parks. He's the president of this association. Stephen good morning to you. What have a lot of your park members been telling you, have they just seen more and more people moving into temporary accommodation.
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Speaker 7: Look, we have We've got over two and a half thousand residential park sites across South Australia and we have almost four and a half thousand people. So it's a huge and growing industry for us. And one of the things that we've seen we actually as an industry undertook a comprehensive consultation private process with our members last year and one of the most concerning things is particularly in our regions and our smaller and mixed parks where they cater for both tourism and residents, seventy five percent of them are saying that without reforms, they're looking to either decrease the amount of residential sites or exit the offering altogether.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of these parks, Steven, you know, as you mentioned, they're shared with tourists, and they're in quite popular areas and quite you know, beautiful areas on the beach side and things like that too, where tourists want to come and spend time and explore the.
00:55:16
Speaker 3: Local areas as well.
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Speaker 2: So what is the solution here do we need to look at a system you know, where we have essentially, I don't know in the US. You know, you hear of the trailer parks, maybe they're not the ideal situation, but do we need to look at maybe finding a way it's separating the two, so ensuring that you know, we've got our tourist parks for tourists and then but also we've got a similar setup like what our caravan parks are acting like at the moment, to be able to support these people in cheaper accommodation, but in a separate space that already.
00:55:48
Speaker 7: Exists in South Australia, which is great. So we've got really two distinct areas of our industry. We've got our large dedicated residential park operators or land lease communities. They host a nge of different things. I certainly don't think we have anything that resembles an American style trailer parkins in South Australia, but you know a lot of people who are looking to downsize retirees move into these and these communities, and those large dedicated operators have been saying to us that they've got a lot of confidence in the industry moving forward, but they have identified several roadblocks that are hindering them from an operational level to a further expansion, but there is a lot of confidence in that sector. There's the other side of things where we have our small and mixed parks and they while there's the tourism operations are the vast majority of what these operators do and is their key focus. There is a real call from both our operators and from people across South Australia to have a portion of these parks available for long term residents. This helps, particularly in the regions with affordable accommodation, essential workers stay with us a lot of times, and it also helps operators with getting a baseline of income for them and as those operators that we're most worried about, you know, one of the most complicated things for us is actually the administrative burden and the red tape that's involved in entering into these long term agreements. For example, if you wanted to live in your caravan caravan in one of our mixed parks, just to be able to do that, there is all with all the agreements and forms that we have to fill out and give. It's over ninety five pages.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look it's an issue that's going to be continuing because we're seeing more and more people forced into temporaryccommodation. So obviously maybe some legislation changes required so that park owners and those in parks are able to accommodate the needs of what is continuing to be a housing crisis. Well, Stephen Edwards, the ESA Parks President, we appreciate your time this morning. Interested to hear from anyone that might be in this situation. Have they had a similar experience or are they living in a park at the moment because they can't receive any other housing. Join their conversation double two to three below DA below the former Premier of our state, Stephen Marshall on the program after this twenty one minutes to way. Good boarding to you if you're joining us for the very first time. A top of thirty degrees right across Adelaide. A number of serious incidences taking place across Adelie at the moment. We know a very serious crash in the Adelaide Hills. We'll head to the scene very shortly, but we have received confirmation of another fatal motorcycle accident overnight in the northern suburbs at Elizabeth it's minus setting. It's our fifth I believe motorcycle death this year. I think it's our tenth death on or maybe ninth or tenth death on South Australian roads in just fourteen days. So not a great start to the really bad start.
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Speaker 2: But then also we heard from SAPOL this morning that there's some absolute idiot hoon drivers, you know, driving around with zero regard whatsoever for the safety of others on the road. So really concerning, especially at this time of year. I mean, I know we see harist horrific stats in the summertime, but please, if you're out on the roads, just slow down, take care if you're driving late at night. We have heard that the serious crush and blair was quite early in the morning as well, so if you're needing to drive late at night, make sure that you take those appropriate rests as well.
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Speaker 1: Join the conversation eight double two three double low double ow. We want to hear your thoughts on the adelaide right as we cancelation. If you've got a thought that you want to put forward your personal opinion, the text line absolutely going off, but we want to hear from you. Lines available eight double two three double double low. But we were mentioning just then crime and well, whilst the government has said crime statistics are down, I think a lot of people in the community are still feeling I guess an increased in brazen and destructive crime right across Adelaide yesterday or early yesterday morning, a number of teenagers smashing windows at the shopping center at ay Haller and Hill. But in our country towns they're also feeling crime and it's hitting community clubs that really do not deserve this. And the Kadeena Football Club has been targeted and a truly horrific attack. Tim Newman is the president. Tim, good morning to you talk us through what happened to the Katina Football Club.
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Speaker 19: How you going? Yeah, Monday morning had a phone call from a passerby who had noticed that our new toilet doing that we've finished completed on our western hill had been vandalized and all the windows had been smashed in. So there's about five highlight windows and they were all destroyed with rocks.
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Speaker 2: Just shocking, and we understand the local school also suffered some damage too.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's my understanding that there would be vandals must have been on the little walkway through the school through out to our footy club and they've destroyed about five or six windows on the back of the school, patching those and then walking through and getting our toilet block on their way and then ending up out of our a toilet block out the Newtown playground and then kicked in every door that that's on that tall blox.
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Speaker 2: So paint of pictures for us tim this kind of damage that happens to a small community town like Cadena. How much does this damage cost? And who bears the brunt of this cost? And how unfortunate is it that it's just taken these you know, these thoughtless vandals to do this.
01:01:25
Speaker 19: Yeah, speaking on the footy club perspective, that the cost is worn by the football club, So the people that support our footy club are paying for this this sort of act. It's not the first time that we've had we've had windows broken, and we've had them on our footy club itself, the clubrooms, our hill shed has been vandled as well, and you know, we've had several breakings along the way and it generally ends in insurance claim time and effort for volunteers to get up there and clean everything up and then obviously the time and effort to organize contractors to come and fix all the issues that are being damaged. So it's a lot of time and effort more than anything. But there is a cost to it. Obviously with insurance, there's always that that first part of insurance claim that we have to foot the bill for. And if we're lucky enough to get insurance then we can we can get some of it covered.
01:02:19
Speaker 2: But yeah, any any hope that the culprits will be caught tim, I mean, is their local CCTV in the area.
01:02:25
Speaker 19: There there's CCTV all around our club room. We don't have it on this new toilet facility, and I believe the school had CCTV footage. Capturing Getting good enough footage is another thing though we have captured images before and you do get sometimes you get to the perpetrators, but getting a conviction is the hardest part and.
01:02:53
Speaker 1: The bottom line for the football club, the council. You know, you guys having to foot the bill at a time when you know a lot of sporting clubs are struggling. They're struggling to have volunteers, they're having to bring in sometimes paid workers to pick up the slack because they just can't afford to keep up the administration of a football club. What does it mean to the volunteers? How disheartening is it?
01:03:14
Speaker 19: It's very disheartening this this tallet block on the hill with years years trying to get this in our system and for a small community footy club to raise, you know, the money to build a toolet block is it takes years and a lot of commitment from certain lots of volunteers. So the three or four gentlemen that we're involved in getting this tour block on off the ground where they're up there cleaning the glass and fixing all the bits and pieces up, and yeah, they're you know, they're not just upset, but they're I guess they get more confused as to why this sort of stuff happens and how it gets targeted and you know, just just the why, I guess.
01:03:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when it happens in a small community as well, and you know, when it's impacting, say the footy club, because often you know, the funding that we'll have to go into helping repair this or pay any insurance premiums that gets taken out of other programs and can be you know, impact on junior programs and things like that too.
01:04:11
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:04:11
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's felt felt throughout the club. Like like I said, where there's the communities footy clubs that are not for profit. Basically it's it's not.
01:04:19
Speaker 11: Like we're flushed with cash.
01:04:20
Speaker 19: So every little project that we do is plan and thought through and considered with the amount of money that we do have. And know I said, it's the same people coming to our club doing the volunteering and putting the money through the kitchen and the bar and the canteens, So raising that much dased funds for these little projects. So when we do build them, we sense a big sense of pride in them and it is a shame when they get destroyed.
01:04:44
Speaker 1: Well, Tim, have you got any CCTV because if you do, I think we're happy to put it on our social media and we'll see if we can try and identify the thugs.
01:04:52
Speaker 19: I don't have any footage from anything that we've got. I think the school may have, but we have not seen that footage yet.
01:05:00
Speaker 3: We'll just shocking.
01:05:00
Speaker 2: What's happened to your community, Tim, And yeah, thanks for sharing what's going on there. Our thoughts are with your community, with the footy club and the council there and hopefully all this stuff can be repaired sooner than later and you know the local community can enjoy it for years to come.
01:05:15
Speaker 1: Good on your Tim, Tim Newman, the Kadeena Football Club president. Just shocking particularly local community clubs just to trying to do the very best. And I think this is kind of the hard pill to swallow when where you saw the government come out saying that crime is down, and statistically it may be, but it seems like it's more brazen.
01:05:32
Speaker 2: It seems like I mean, and you never like to see this vandalism, but when it impacts local community groups like this that, like Johnny you mentioned a lot of them are run by volunteers, just hits harder.
01:05:42
Speaker 3: It's yeah, quite shocking, certainly.
01:05:44
Speaker 1: All right, we'll check traffic and the former Premier of our state, Stephen Marshall on the program. Well big news yesterday, Casey with in emerging that Kevin Rudd, former Prime Minister the ambassador to the US, choosing to step down as of March thirty one this year from his role. It's been a controversial role. We've seen some awkward moments between him and the US President Donald Trump. Overall, it appears that Australian US relations are pretty steady at the moment after after being on really some shaky territory. But we wanted to pull it apart with our man on the ground, Stephen Marshall, of course, is the president of the American Association in New York City. Mister Marshall, good morning to you and thank you for your time. Kevin Rudd no longer the US Ambassador.
01:06:31
Speaker 4: Well, good morning, John O, Good morning Casey, good morning to all of your listeners. Yes, absolutely huge news out of Washington yesterday with his excellency the Honorable Kevin Rud, former Prime Minister of Australia currently Australia's ambassador to the US, saying that he'll finish up at the end of March. Look, I think he's done an excellent job. It's a very tricky job, and in fact, if you look at how Australia's fared with the most recent negotiations with the US compared to virtually every other country on Earth, I think Australia has done well on a lot of that is his skill. So hats off to Kevin. He will have completed three years as the ambassador, and then of course moving on to a role with the Asia Society back here in New York.
01:07:18
Speaker 2: Probably a lot of what people have seen here in Australia is maybe the tensions and the you know, his thoughts, maybe his prior thoughts before the role, you know, toward Donald Trump and the very awkward interactions obviously we saw in October where you know, Trump didn't even realize the man was standing or sitting right in front of him on the table there. But you mentioned, you know, he has done some positive things. I mean for those that aren't across it, you know, what are the key things that you know, Kevin Rudd has been able to achieve in this position in terms of benefiting Australia.
01:07:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, really good question, Casey, because I think everybody has seen that interaction on the television where President Trump was in the same room as our prime to Anthon Albanezy, Kevin Rudd was there and there was that little interaction, let's just say. But I think that they moved past that very very quickly. I think Kevin's greatest achievement, of course, has been his focus on getting the best outcome for Australia. In the tariff negotiations, they were tricky they were tricky with allies and maybe not such friendly countries alike for the US, so they put every country on the back foot. I think Australia came through it extraordinarily well. He also has a very depth understanding of what's going on with the Orcus Agreement. Now that's under review at the moment. I know from the chatter around DC and around the US more broadly that Australia's really put their best foot forward. And again, you know, Kevin Rudleed's a large team. I think there are about four hundred Aussies in the embassy in DC. They're both military and civilian diplomacy person and l he leads that team and I think he does a good job. Now he's about to leave that post. The big question is I suppose who is going to be next?
01:09:09
Speaker 15: Yeah?
01:09:09
Speaker 1: Absolutely, how are we going to say, Stephen Marshall the new ambassador to the US.
01:09:16
Speaker 4: Not likely. That is a very very senior diplomatic role. It'll be interesting. There's already lots of speculation about who it's going to be. Look, there's former politicians' names that have been mentioned, in particular Joel Fitzgibbon and Stephen Conroy. I think Scott Morrison's name was even thrown into his name into the hat. Let's just wait to see where it would be. I mean probably the person who's got the greatest sort of rapport with him is none other than golfing legend Greg Norman. Now I don't know whether he's interested in a diplomatic role, but he probably spent as much, if not more time than any other Australian because they play golf together quite regularly. Could you imagine having the ear of the President of the United States for two, three or four our game of golf. Of course you'd have to lose, You'd have to definitely, you.
01:10:18
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be able to win against Donald Trump. What a positive relationship that would be.
01:10:22
Speaker 2: Now, Stephen Marshall, look over the last week here in South Australia. I think we can call it nothing short of chaos with the fallout of Adelaide Writer's Week. You yourself a very strong supporter of the arts here in South Australia in your time as premiere.
01:10:39
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on what's unfolded?
01:10:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, Casey, it's very sad. I'm a massive supporter of the Adelaide Festival. It's something that Look, people in New York talk about the Adelaide Festival. It is really one of the pre eminent arts festivals anywhere on the globe, and Adelaide really shines bright. But this made news in the New York Times today here in the capital city of the world, really New York. So it's big news over here. I've not been following it too closely, so I'm always careful to not say the wrong thing at this point without getting all of the facts. But look, it's just sad for Adelaide. It's certainly sad for the festival.
01:11:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. Well, Stephen Marshall, we appreciate your time this morning, the president of the American Australian Association, Thank you so much.
01:11:31
Speaker 4: Thanks John, Thanks Kate.
01:11:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephen Marshall mentioning it's made news in the New York Time, so right as we cancelation, making news right across the world. The premiere on the program after eight o'clock, but also making news this morning. It's really been a horrific couple of days on our roads, and we've heard of a fatal overnight at Elizabeth but there is also a serious crash at Belair that is causing some delays. Peter cartercop is there for seven years PC. What more do we know?
01:11:59
Speaker 6: So I'm at the scene at the moment. Let me paint a picture for you. The Upper Ste Road is still blocked off. Major crash investigators here, the CFS volunteers here, the whole of Upper Stu Road. This is just about two hundred meters north of the main entrance to the Bla National Park. So it's a major road. So just before two thirty this morning, a driver lost control of his master I believe, and slammed into a tree. It's an extremely serious crash. We're just waiting on an update from police to find out more details. But the whole of Upper Ste Road. I believe Torren's transit is in the process here of trying to redirect bus routes around this crash. There's about six bus stops along this road that are now blocked off and the road will be blocked off i'd say for the next few hours. The car is still here and it's still an active investigation scene.
01:13:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly horrific. We'll a wait to see the very latest from SAPOL and of course the latest tonight on seven News. Got on your PC. The appreciate your time. Let's change tag Casey. We'll have a bit of fun the premiere on the program after eight o'clock. But we can lighten up a little bit now. And all eyes have been on the Brisbane Football Club. Yes, perhaps for the wrong reason, but I guess it's been good fodder. I think a lot of people have been really following the situation with Locke Neil and the I guess unfortunate events of his family falling apart. But New's servicing yesterday that well, he's had a win. Lockie hasn't had many wins in the most recent weeks. Obviously, he's stood down as captain of AS Brisbane due to his behavior where he's as we now know, he's cheated on his wife. He's admitted to all that behavior. But he's had a win. Case he had to win.
01:13:55
Speaker 3: It was on Sunday.
01:13:57
Speaker 2: We're here as many football as they make them in investments, shall we say, outside of football, and many investing in the world of horse racing. And a few years ago they he invested. He was part of an investment one hundred and ten thousand dollars for a horse selected at a yeling there and it won on Sunday, was coming last and it had a thrilling from last to first position, but somewhat ironically unfortunate.
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Speaker 3: We're not quite sure.
01:14:27
Speaker 2: The name of this horse is stirring headlines and the name of that horse is two timed Charlie.
01:14:32
Speaker 1: So for those at home that might not be aware two timing, well, it refers to someone being a guest, a cheature, doing the wrong thing in their relationship. So we're going to spin this. We're not going to fame Locky Neil, have no fear, and we'll try not to fame anyone else. But if you had to name a horse for someone, if it was your job to name a horse, it could be anyone in the public eye. You can name a horse for yourself. What would you call it? Eight double two to three double o double ow lines available. We've got one hundred dollars Town Hotel voucher to give away, while the cinema tickets to give away. We want to hear from you eight double two three double low double low. What would you name a horse for someone? It can be anyone maybe worrit Yeah, correct. We want to have a bit of funnel maybe name your own horse. Join the conversation. Eight double two three double low double low height after eight. Good morning you. You're joining us for the very first time. Johnaan Casey in the chair, David and will back next week. But we turned to the story that has really captivated South Australia in the last twenty and four to forty eight hours, and what should have been a celebration of sixty five years of a storytelling has been a story of collapse. The Adelaide Writers' Festival canceled following the board's decision to remove a pro Palestinian author, Ruanda abdel Fata, out of respect for community experiencing pain from a devastating event, which was the Bondai massacre. Now, a lot of questions have been raised regarding the government's influence on this, the Premier's influence on this, his version of events we're about to hear now, Premier, good morning to you and thank you for your time. Talk us through for those that might have heard the conjecture from your point of view, how have these events played out? What advice we asked to give and how is that received to the board.
01:16:18
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, well, I think good morning to you guys and your listeners. Look, it's a very long story. It goes back to last year, well before Bondai, when the board had a whole range of issues regarding the programming of Doctor Abdul Fatara by Right as We Director Louise Adler, the board resignations back last year pre Bondai and so forth, and just to give your listeners a bit of context, at every Riter's Week there has always been pro Palestinian authors and activists who speak and I think that's entirely appropriate. I've always backed in Louise Adler and the direct Writers Week and Writers Week itself to have a diversity of opinion and to be able to for people to be able to argue their case with civility, and you know that's sometimes that invites controversy, so be it. That's the way it should be. But the concern was that Alaid Writers Week had canceled a Jewish author back in twenty twenty four on the basis of the fact that that Jewish author had crossed a line in terms of reasonable activism and discourse. They thought that he went too far. And doctor Abdul Fatar has of course been accused of the same thing, docting other authors demanding that or making clear that people who believe in Zionism should not be entitled to cultural safety at other events and post BONDI I think that's worthy of reflection. To put it simply, how I arrived at my conclusion. There was a couple of things. But my view is that it's central to the Australian project that people are able to express their views and their opinions. But when you come to this country, you've got to leave your ancient hatreds and your prejudices behind. Now that doesn't mean you can't advocate the cause for a Palestinian state or whatever it might be, but when you do so, you can't argue your position and demand a freedom of speech and a right to protest and then simultaneously argue that other people aren't entitled of the same thing. And doctor abdul Fatar's views, in my view, are extremist. She was posting pictures or posting images on her own social media sympathizing with the October seven attacks where hundreds of Jewish people were murdered, innocent children, ahn't people held hostage. I don't know a calld with that. She argued against. She argued in favor of Jewish people not being receiving cultural safety at these types of events, and I think that crosses a line the board. I offered my view to the board. I put it in writing the board. I made clear that it was the board's decision, and I wasn't seeking to intervene or impose the government's position on the board. But I m offering my opinion that I did not think it was appropriate, particularly in the context of the worst race based terrorist attack that has ever happened in our country now in the last win and then and then they made the decision, and then everything has transpired since Premier.
01:19:32
Speaker 2: In the last twenty four hours, the director Louise Adler, of course stepped down. She's been quite critical of your involvement in this and essentially your views, calling it a moment of censorship. And another comments reflecting on that, you mentioned that you know, in previous years you've been in support of Adelaide Writers Week in terms of having potentially some controversial figures. But she made claims on television last night that in twenty twenty three you were now to a town hall event that you were thinking about canceling the funding of Writers Week due to objections of a particular writer.
01:20:06
Speaker 7: Back then, No no, I was called on to do that. You know, people in some media circles were calling me to defund Rider's Week, cancel Writers Week, interven on Writers Week. And I made a principal decision to not do that, as I have in this instance. As I have in this instance. And I made that plane to the board and everyone else involved. And Louise Adler was very grateful for my support back then. But I think in this instance, in my assessment, a line was crossed. I mean, doctor abdul Vatar did something a few years ago called doxing, where she released the private details of Jewish artists with the with I understand was the intent. She released their private details and contact details publicly called doxing, with the intent that people could pressure on those Jewish artists with the view of silencing them. You know, I think you can't, like I said, you can't come to this country. We can't be a person in this country demanding a right to free speech and the right to protest and then say I get the protest, but you don't. I get to express my view. But you're not entitled to express yours at a writer's Week. I don't accord with that opinion. I think that is about silencing others.
01:21:27
Speaker 1: If we going back to twenty twenty four premiere the Advice, as you mentioned, there were calls for a Jewish author to not appear. The board didn't cancel that Jewish author. There's a few people saying, well, it's one rule for one, one rule for the other. What's your response to that.
01:21:45
Speaker 7: Well, I agree with those people. I think they called it a scheduling issue, but they canceled it. I mean, that's what happened. And they canceled that Jewish author because ironically, doctor abdul Fatah herself board on the board to cancel that author. Right, So doctor Abdelfatara says, look, you can't have that Jewish author, but I've got to be able to roll up and express my views, even if they're extremist, even if they could be characterized as anti Semitic. And so the board having made the decision to cancel the Jewish author, I think in this instance was duty bound to be consistent, you know. And the same goes to Louis Adler. And now, like I said, I'm the premier of this state. On my responsibility, I've always had a strong view against any form of racism. I don't care if it's isomophobia or anti Semitism or anything else. Right, I believe in this country that we should be compassionate towards and respectful towards one another. We can have a disagreement, we can express those disagreements passionately, but we can't be trying to silence others and then not be consistent about it. And that's how I arrived at my position. Now, the board had to make their own decision as a matter of lord know, the Avid Writers We Board is independent of government, and I believe in that principle. And just as I offered an opinion to back them in in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, this instance, I offered an opinion this summer. Und they made a decision independently and they and I backed it in again. Now now, of course the last adler didn't get her way, and the the rest has transpired. But you know, and for me it's been very disappointing to see play out. I hope that the new board is able to preserve the festival. I really do. It's an important institution for our state. But I'm not. You know, if you know, I've got a way. I've got to go away and think about these things, examine my conscience and offer a view. I think, you know, people in this state, hopefully a lot of sense that I try and make my decisions in a considered way doesn't mean that people agree with them. Perhaps that's the that's part of a rich liberal democracy. But I will offer my opinion. But the people statistation, you know, is some people are are sitting around and spending a lot of their time obsessing about Israel Palestine, and that is their prerogative. But I'm not.
01:24:07
Speaker 6: I'm not.
01:24:08
Speaker 7: You know, I'm up in I'm up in poor Peerie. Now. I'm on my way to Port Agusta this morning for a massive announcement for the people of Port Agusta and their economic futures. That's got to be my course for person. If the artistic community want to focus in this, that's their prerogative. But I've got a bigger responsibility to the economic future of the state and the well being of our people, and hopefully people be now to celebrate their views.
01:24:29
Speaker 1: Peacefully obviously yesterday a huge backlash to a number of comments you made at a press conference a mant barker yesterday. It's taken off on social media, a number of authors accusing you of almost defamation. Do you regret making those comments?
01:24:42
Speaker 7: Was a which ones you're talking about in.
01:24:43
Speaker 1: Terms of referring well, They are saying that you've referred the author as referring to the fact that she may well her thoughts could be reflected in a similar way of the Bondi attack.
01:24:57
Speaker 7: I've never I've never said that doctor Abdwilfatar has anything to do with Bondi attack. Not at all, not at all, quite the opposite. But I do think that the anti Semitic Bondi attack. So I said, this is the press conference yesterday, and you know your listeners to think it through the objective ones, which is most I mean, imagine if a far right Israeli Zionist walked into a Sydney mosque and murdered fifteen innocent people because they were of the Muslim faith. Imagine if that happened, right, and then can you imagine if that within weeks of that, At Adelaid Writers Week, they scheduled a far right zionist extremist from you know, a Jewish person. Imagine if they scheduled someone at Adelaid Writer's Week exprousing those opinions. There's no way in the world.
01:26:00
Speaker 8: That would happen.
01:26:01
Speaker 7: In fact, we know it wouldn't happen because back in twenty twenty four they canceled one. So I just think consistency is important. Prints on this am I at the press conference yesterday, Like I said, I examined my conscience. I think these things through, I'll put my I'll put my view in writing so that everyone would know that the board, because they wanted it, I put it in writing. I made clear that in that letter. But I wasn't telling the board what to do. I didn't want to tell the board what to do. But I was expressing my opinion and I put it in writing, you know, strongly, so that there could be no misapprehension what my opinion was. And then they made their own independent judgments. And look, the people criticized me for that. I get it. But like I said, I'm here against all racism in South as right, anti semitic, anti or isomophobia, and you know that's what I stand up for now.
01:26:54
Speaker 1: Now premier.
01:26:54
Speaker 2: At that press conference you're talking about, we did see a moment there, you know, a side of you that maybe we haven't seen before, quite a lot of emotion. I mean, you were asked on topics that you know, ranged from homophobia to you know, what's happening with writers? Can you can you take us you know what was going on in that time. I mean the pressure that you were under in that moment, and you know, how are you feeling now?
01:27:18
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's not in case, it's not it's emotion so much associated with pressure. Although you know you feel a hommitation. That's part of the job, and that's fine. It's more emotional associated to what I aspire our state and our country to be. You know, we live in this magnificent city and state where we embrace multiculturalism and the diversity and beauty that it brings, and we do so in a way that's peaceful and respectful of one another. And what I can't abuid is people who are the beneficiaries of that harmonious society who then want to retain prejudice against against other people and diminish them. I don't stand for that. I've got rather strong views that we should act with compassion towards one another, you know, find humanity in each other, and when we do that, everyone gets along. Well. We can raise our families and live in one of the best parts of the of the world where we're free of the sort of division and anger and polarization. And when people try and bring it here in a way that I think disrespects others, I feel strongly about that, and I do get emotional about it, you know, melanous because there's not a name that came out in the first Fleet case. And this, this state, in this country is given you know, a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds, a lot of opportunity, and I think we should focus on how luckily we are to have it rather than sort of try and find ways to be angry at one another.
01:29:04
Speaker 1: In terms of yesterday, Premier, we saw the board step down, the chair step down. Did yourself or any other government representative asked the board to do that.
01:29:14
Speaker 7: No, They've all made their own decisions. They've all made their own decisions, and I respect them for doing so. I understand the reasons for doing so. I think them doing so does allow for a fresh start. I mean I mean, I think, if you're honest about it, there's been a range of things that the board has got wrong along this journey that go back sometime. You know, they are ultimately responsible for the festival and the fringe. I think there are good people on that board. Don't get me wrong, I'm not diminishing them. I think of some very very difficult circumstances making very difficult judgment calls, and it's easy to ridic kill them now, but that does present an opportunity for a fresh new board which is in place, and you know they're turning their minds to make sure that they're But hopefully this year's festival proper as the same Writers Week, can go on and hopefully be a great success.
01:30:06
Speaker 1: The festival is funded by taxpayers, and the consistent feedback on the text line and a lot of people calling in is well, how much is this going to cost? Is there going to be further financial support or financial support given to these authors that have lost this income? And also on the back of yesterday, just finally premiere, has the government received any legal proceedings from doctor abdel Fatter due to her cancelation?
01:30:31
Speaker 7: No, not that I'm aware of it. Doesn't cost all these authors canceled them or what's most of these authors canceled themselves, So that's on them, I mean, And in terms of Writers Week, just as an event which I think has been a great event, and I've opened it every year, been premiere, I've attended it, I've done everything I can to support it. But it's a free event. No one pays for a ticket, so it's not like it generates revenue for itself. It's a free event. The festival however, you know, we hope the festival proper. The opera and the theater and all the other events that occur, they are mainly ticketed and paid for, and we very much hope that proceeds.
01:31:15
Speaker 2: Now, there's been a lot of question marks raised around I know a new board has been in stated, but question marks around the future viability of the festival, the theories that the festival has been tainted. It's going to be difficult to bring authors back. We heard, you know, even this morning, that the story is reached global headlines, it's reached the New York Times. Do you worry that because of what's happened here in twenty twenty six that there's going to be doubts for its strength in the future.
01:31:44
Speaker 7: I think with this new board, I'm pretty optimistic about its future. Like I said, it's an independent event. The government does put money into it like we do into many other events. It's an important one for our state, and I certainly be wishing at every success. Ultimately, it's up to artists to choose what they do. I just hope that they avoil themselves of all the facts and assess it accordingly. I mean, you know, I think artists getting on stage and expressing pro Palestinian messages, so be it. You know, if that's what they want to do. That's part of being in a ritual bbul democracy. But I would say as like I said, I think what most of changed. While we respect people's ability to do that and give them the right and the platform to do so, I think we also expect in this country by and large, that if you want to argue a case for statehood of other countries or different cultural causes on battles that occur on other parts of the world, if you want to do all that, try and do it peacefully and respectfully of others, and accept that other people are in toepeb to express their views too.
01:33:00
Speaker 1: Well, Premier, we appreciate your time this morning. Just very finally, will there be an independent review or some sort of review into what has taken place?
01:33:08
Speaker 7: Well, I think the core focus at the moment is what happens with the festival over the coming weeks, and then that's the first focus, and you know, once we get past that, then there'll be time to assess whether or not there needs to be a review of what occurred. I think there's been a lot of actions from a number of people here that go back some way that's so deceeds of all of this, and maybe in due course that should be examined. You know, we've had to with expressed a view at the point end after a lot's gone wrong that led to it. But so maybe there will be So I'm not but I'm not, but I'm in a position to rule that in or all that out. So I just at then, I think we just let the festival take its course and we'll see how it plays out.
01:33:54
Speaker 1: Premier, we appreciate your time this morning. And announcement said to be made important gas, so we'll follow that throughout the day. But yeah, we appreciate his access this morning. Obviously, a lot going on, Casey, but I think that answers a lot of questions a lot of people have been wanting. Yeah, still a lot of anger. The text line though, seeming to support the Premier in his decision, seeing him stand by his original viewer and sticking it through. And we'll pull that apart, but before we do, we'll check traffic and statically will join us after the eight to thirty news to pull apart what was a huge couple of days in state politics. Twenty one minutes to nine. Plenty of feedback on our chat with the premiere a little bit later, we'll take your calls on a double two to three double double low on this. But also when naming horses, what would you name your horse after? Well, Lockie Neil after what he's been involved with his horse conveniently named two times Charlie had a win, but we'd love to know what would you name a horse after? And we've got plenty of texts coming through and we'll jump to them very shortly. But we had to bring in the big gun after what has been a few huge days in state politics, only sixty or so days away from a state election. We had to bring it back early. She's due on Monday. But Stacy Lee joins us on five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 9: On five Double A Breakfast, this is Stacy Lee for.
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Speaker 1: All the analysis of what has played out. Stacy Lee, good morning to.
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Speaker 20: You, Morning John O, Morning Case. And when we get to the end, remind me. I once had a race horse named.
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Speaker 1: Up after you. Ye what was it called? You just dropped out?
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Speaker 3: Was it a winner?
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Speaker 20: It won a few races in country New South Wales. I didn't know it was named after me. It was called Newsgirl, and they started tagging me on Twitter, the guys who were racing it, and I thought, what's going on here? And then looked it up and it was fold from a horse called Stacy and another horse called Lee. And they must have just done a Google and named Newsgirl and then kept me in the loop for all of its races. And yeah, it did quite well for a while.
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Speaker 14: So there you go.
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Speaker 3: Well Stacy Lee, the news Girl.
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Speaker 2: Look, take us through your analysis of what's been a big few days in politics.
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Speaker 20: Oh my gosh, how crazy has it been. I've been following along and yesterday, you know, I'm holding my baby in the rocking chair trying to get it asleep watching the press conference that the Arts Minister Andrew and Michaels announcing that the entire board has resigned and appointing new board members. I think it would be pretty safe to say that the Premier's probably underestimated what the response would be to this, and this is exactly what happens when Polly's try and get involved in art. I personally think it was totally inappropriate for the Premier to suggest to the board to get rid of an author. It doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't matter what nationality they are. They could be Ukrainian, Russian, Jewish, Palestinian, whoever they are. If the artistic director of a festival doesn't have the freedom to appoint the people they want to appoint to be a part of that festival, then that kind of spells the death of it. And I'm a little bit worried that we're seeing the start of the end for Week, because how can any artistic director in the future schedule anyone that's slightly controversial and feel empowered to do so, you know, it's just going to be filled with authors who are white and have similar views talking in a vortech.
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Speaker 1: But isn't it fair to say, though, that the premiere was asked for his opinion. He was asked to give an opinion, and his view was that obviously, he's told us today that it was pro prior to the Bondi attack. But even in light of the Bondaie attack, he's only been asked to give his advice, I assume with briefings from SAPOL as well and other external factors. But it appears from his point of view, he didn't put any pressure on the board. He simply provided his view and his advice. As the leader of our state. That's not telling them what to do, though, is it.
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Speaker 17: No?
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Speaker 20: And you're right he was asked for his opinion, he gave it, and he says, and he told you just then that he didn't put any pressure on the board to follow his advice. But to answer this question for me, if you say to your boss, oh, hey, mate, what option do you think I should take A and B? And the boss comes in and says, well, I think you should take option A, and I'm going to support your decision. If you do take option A. I guess you can still take option B if you like, but I'd prefer you take A and I would support that decision.
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Speaker 4: It has to be.
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Speaker 20: Exactly right. So I think that's a little bit sneaky of the Premiere to say I gave them my advice and then I washed my hands of it, and I said, but you guys do what you want to do. Because case you asked him about a situation in twenty twenty three, and this whole saga has reminded me of that because I was working at a different radio station, But I remember having a very similar interview with the Premier at that time because there was another author and there were calls for her to be canceled from the Writer's Week in twenty twenty three. Her name was Susan Ablhawa. She was another Palestinian author and she was allowed to attend that Writer's Week despite making comments about Russia and Ukraine. It was very controversial at the time. She said that Ukrainian Volotomy Zelenski had provoked Rash to invade Ukraine. Now, in that case, the Premier and you know, most of our state totally disagreed with her comments. He said he considered intervening in that festival, but he decided against it because that would take us down a very dangerous path to wherever Putin's Russia is, he said, and I quote event organizers would live in fear that at any moment, if they got someone appearing that the government of the day doesn't agree with, then they'll withdraw funding. That takes us into some pretty dangerous places. Well three years later, he's doing exactly that.
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Speaker 3: Double standards, Stacey.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of I guess an extraordinary moment for the Premiere yesterday in showing emotion and I know he said it wasn't a side of pressure, it was you know, other factors and him just trying to portray his compassion in a really complex situation. What did you make of it? Is this a crack for the Premiere? Is it a chink in his armor? Is it him showing a softer side? Is this going to be a good or a positive thing as we lead up into the state election.
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Speaker 20: I don't think this will be seen as a positive thing for the Premier. Look, I saw him tear up at the press yesterday, and the Premier is a good guy. He's usually a straight shooter and I think that's why people like him because usually when he talks, they can agree with him. He has that sort of he's often described as being statesmanlike and for politicians who often talk in circles, he's one that sort of tends to have a bit more cut through and that's worked really well for him. But in this case, I think he's read the room wrong and he does seem to be talking in circles. He said to you guys a number of times that doctor Abdulphatar was trying to silence others, and he doesn't agree with that. Well, that's exactly what he's done by trying to silence her. And yeah, I saw him tear up yesterday. I think he really should have expected a bit of more of a response as to what has occurred. This is the start of the election campaign, and in my opinion, it's been a disaster. They've made a number of announcements this week the government that have been really good announcements that the community either doesn't know about or isn't talking about, because this whole Writer's Week fiasco has totally overshadowed it. And when you have a government getting involved in the arts the way he has, it's a concern and it's going to stick around.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people feeling though, certainly on the text line Stacey that I think a lot of people are backing the Premiere in this because he's finally were seeing a politician that is sticking to their guns. He feels this way, and I understand why he feels this way, because five weeks ago we were sitting watching rolling coverage of the worst terrorist attack in Australia that's ever seen. Now, obviously we're not linking right as week to this, but we're all smashing the federal government saying that we need to combat antisemitism, we need to stand hand in hand with the Jewish community. Now, frankly, I don't think antisemitism really exists here in South Australia. We don't have a huge Jewish population. What we saw in Bondi was extremist Islam. But if for the Premiere, if he chose to not get involved with this, if he chose to sit back and let it play out, the debate to continue, and realistically there would have been protests, there probably would have been security concerns. And yes, we're in South Australia, so a lot of people would say nothing ever happens. We can't say that anymore after what happened at Bondai. Nothing is off the table. And if the Premier stood back and did not I guess put his thoughts forward and something did occur, whether it be extreme protests, vile hate, anti semitism, or even at worse, some sort of violent attack. The criticism on the premier would be extreme, like we've seen towards the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 20: Well, and that's what happens when you're the leader of the state, right, But you have to understand that your words carry power with the much more power than the rest of us. I can disagree with with you, with my husband, with my mom, with the premier, and those words kind of just go out into the ether and nothing happens. But when you're the premier of the state and you give advice to a board which is appointed by your government. They're paid by your government. Their livelihoods and the you know, they pay, their stale, their jobs rely on you, you have to understand that those words carry weight and they're going to be taken more seriously than yours and mine. And I'm absolutely not defending doctor Abdulphatar's views. I actually disagree.
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Speaker 4: With most of her views.
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Speaker 20: From what my research that I've done, but what I will always defend is the right that we all have to freedom of speech and artistic expression free from political interference. And this is a slippery slope for the premier. The first step is always censorship of the arts and undermining independent institutions. And that's why the Premier said he didn't get involved three very short years ago because he did not want to do that. He did not want to undermine the arts and get involved in independent institutions. Well, now he's got the hose on, he's got the tarp, and he's riding that slippery slope right down the hill. In my opinion.
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Speaker 2: Well, I no doubt the Premier is hoping he reaches the bottom of that hill very soon and he can put all this furor of the writer's week behind him. Stacy, no doubt you're going to unpack what's to come in the next few weeks. Sixty six days until the state election. How are you seeing things play out?
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Speaker 20: I mean, so much has changed. I was only away for six months, and so much has changed. Another liberal leader appointed, Ashton Herne. It seems like she's hit the ground running. I'm seeing more of her on the TV screens and all over social media than I have for any of the recent leaders of the Liberal Party, that's for sure. So I think the Premier has got a bit of a fight on his hands. I think we all know it's a pretty one sided election, but the Liberal Party has done what they've done and it'll be interesting. Things are certainly heating up. I'm not sure if this situation will have long lasting impacts throughout the whole campaign. It potentially could because Riders Week was meant to happen right when the election is in March, when Adelaide Festival is on, if I'm correct, and I've tried to research this just before I got on air with you guys, but I don't think Riders Week's ever been canceled, even during COVID. I think it was one of those ones that had a bit of a lucky timing in the tw tween outbreaks, so it was never canceled. So this could potentially be the first time that festival's ever been canceled, and it's going to coincide with the election, so it's not going to be good for the premier. But as you say, a lot of people agree with him, and that's the beauty of Australia. We can all talk, we can all agree and agree with each other and have civil debate. In previous years we've been allowed to do that without political interference in the arts, and I'm worried that now that's occurred. And like I said, I think it's a bit of a slippery slope. But look, it'll be a fun election campaign. I'm looking forward to dissecting at all when I get back next week. And thanks for having me on a bit earlier.
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Speaker 4: Guys.
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Speaker 1: We can't wait to have you back in the chair Stacy Lee from Monday. You'll join David and Will and pull it all apart. But we had to get you on for your expert analysis. We're very lucky to have you on board, particularly heading into a state election. We appreciate your time this morning and enjoy your morning with Bubbs.
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Speaker 20: I will thank you.
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Speaker 1: Plenty of play out there and the text line absolutely going off, and that's why I wanted Stacey on. The opinions from everyone is vast. I think something that really needs to be put forward here is that this author around it. Abdel Fatar was one of the signatories that was on the letter sent to the Adelaide Festival Board in early twenty twenty four requesting Thomas L. Friedman's invitation being withdraw. The Premier mentioned it before. There is hypocrisy going on here. I understand the freedom of speech argument, but I think the captain's call and he didn't force them to do it. I'm sure, as Stacy said, if the Premier says I think this is a good idea, then the Board's going to follow. But I think the fallout of the Rider's Week and the riders that have jumped on jumped off the Rider's Week, I think that's a little bit pissed week personally. I think, you know, stick by your guns, have your own opinion, but you don't need to chastise as a community event that promotes reading and promotes creativity. I just think that's people jumping on their own on their own boat, trying to make themselves feel important personally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Stacy made an interesting point there. If Rider's Week was still going ahead, it would be happening right around the time of the state elections. So I'm sure mally is it's now probably pretty happy that it has been canceled, and it probably won't be a talking point around then, Around the state election. No doubt the Premier wants this to be buried, but it does raise a lot of questions about the future of this and I guess there's hope that this fresh board, the new members are taking over, of course, that includes former newsreader Jane Doyle and as well as John Irving and Mary Curris and Judy Potter. Hopefully a new direction and a fresh face is all that it needs.
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Speaker 3: We'll wait and see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I think a lot of listeners will be glad to stop talking about this really, and after what Louise Adler did on the seven thirty Report last night, I'm certainly glad that she has stepped down. A double two to three double O double O lines available if you'd like to join the conversation. We also have one hundred dollars Kent Town Hotel voucher to give away. We'll lighten up to finish the show. One hundred dollars Kent Town Hotel voucher. The Kent Town Hotel is celebrating Australia Day for a whole month with special deals and meals. We want you to name a horse if you had to name a horse after anyone. A double two three double o double oh four to nine. We're taking your calls a double two three double o double low on your horse's name after Lockey Nil's horse to Tima had a bit of a win Hue in Gaula Hughey, good morning to.
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Speaker 6: You, Yeah, good morning to you too.
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Speaker 18: Yes.
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Speaker 16: Then I quite often look up at the screen at my local, which is the Criterion in Gaula m and I see the name Photo first, second third, So I'd like to name my horse Photo.
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Speaker 1: I like it a simple, simple, easy way to get across the line. Rosemary, good morning to you.
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Speaker 16: Hello.
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Speaker 1: What's your horse name? Rosemary?
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Speaker 21: First place?
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Speaker 17: Rosie.
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Speaker 21: My late dad was the only one that ever called me Rosie and no one ever has, and he would love he'd love the horse racing, So I think they'd be a good name.
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Speaker 3: First place, Rosy, short and sweet. I like that.
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Speaker 21: Name, good morning, No dough elbow.
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Speaker 1: As simple as that. There's a good one on the text line we just saw before Casey got that one.
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Speaker 3: They did have one. It was linked to riders Week.
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Speaker 2: We have had someone suggest maybe we should call a horse simply rights week. That would certainly gain some attention there, but we did see one. I'm just trying to track it further down here. Goodness, we've had so many to here.
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Speaker 1: We go, Here we go.
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Speaker 2: We've had a suggestion from Primo in Henley Beach South. The suggestion for a horse is abdel go fast. So similar similar sentiment there. In terms of the political news news spere.
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Speaker 1: Yes, certainly, we love your calls. We appreciate it. We need to give it away. Casey, who do you.
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Speaker 3: Like no go elbow?
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