Calling Out Mainstream Media for Biased Coverage with Journalist Jasmyne Cannick

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La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, Good morning, and God
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bless happy Monday. I'm Dominique Saprima.
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This show is called First Things First, and my very
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first thing today and every day is giving, thanksgiving, praises
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and asking for blessings from God, asking for the blessings
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of the ancestors and the elders.
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And let's go. Let's do this. We got so much
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to talk about. It is going to be a great week.
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I'm naming it and claiming it. So what do we
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do on a mindful Monday? We first get in our
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mind and body. Let's start there. Our one, we look local.
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Hour two we go national and international and beyond. Although
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we start off the hour with Sahara Ali leading us
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on affirmations, guided meditation and helping us get our minds
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right for the week ahead. Our three today will be
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joined by Isaac Hayes the third. He's a founder of
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fan Base and he has got some very pertinent information
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for us today. It's gonna be a great day. We're
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starting out with my friend and colleague. She is an
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award winning gen X journalist. She is a delegate for
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the La County Democratic Central Committee and she's a strategist
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and a contributor. You all know. I think by now
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you're like an official KBLA contributor. Jazz mechanic.
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Good morning, Good morning, Dommie, Good morning, Miles, Good morning
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everyone out there.
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You can tell I had my coffee. Yeah, coffee's right,
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make up tight, and you you can join us at
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up mine not so much byday. I'm here, look great,
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Thank you, queen. Okay, so you can see us on
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YouTube YouTube dot com KBLA fifteen eighty. We're streaming there
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and we do have a lot to talk about. But
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happy holidays, yeah, you know, it is a holiday. Yeah whatever.
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I'm in the same camp with everybody right now who's
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just like pushing it through and doing the best we
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can with what we have.
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I'm in that girl.
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I am not the holly jolly. I am the when
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I walk in the door, have me some egg knog
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with little sums in it, person right now?
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Okay, then does holly jolly come after that? It actually does. Yeah, Well,
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happy holidays to those whatever it is you're celebrating. And
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it seems like every year during the holidays we get
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these crazy like people dying, A lot of people dying,
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some crazy incidents like Rob Reiner is so sad him
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and his wife guild in their Brentwood home.
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Yeah, and you know, for folks who are waking up
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and don't know this, yes, so Rob Reiner, when Harry
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met Sally, the Princess Bride, I mean, the list goes
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on and on. The I say the Princess Bride because
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that's one of my favorite favorite all time.
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Everyone loves the Princess Bride. I love spinal tap. This
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is don Tap, which he directed.
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So he was him and his wife were found, I believe,
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stabbed to death in their Brentwood home. And one of
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the yesterday, uh, yesterday afternoon. And one of the things
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I was thinking about this morning when I was getting
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ready was that is the second, you know, group of
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parents or parent in an LA County that I can
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think of in the past week that has been allegedly
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murdered by their child. Because we had the musician or the.
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Opera that's right, the opera singer.
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Man and I believe that was in Venice, that happened earlier.
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And again the sun is a suspect and in that
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one as well, And I was just thinking about that, like, wow, it's.
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Kind of scary. I mean, you don't know what's going on,
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is people have mental health issues. There's all kinds of
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you know, things that could be going on if you're
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not in somebody's south. I think our tendency is to
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decide that they have everything because they have money and
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they've got great careers. But we don't know what's going
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on with folks.
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No, no, we don't. And even though this stuff happens
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all year long, particularly here in La County, it just
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seems to be much more exasperated and sort of in
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your face during the holiday season. But yeah, I was.
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I was actually quite stunned when that alert came across
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my phone.
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That's really sad. I mean just the ultimate scary situation
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is for parents or grandparents be killed by their kids
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or vice versa. That guy's name was Jubilant P. Sykes,
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the opposit. I didn't know of him before the murder.
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I didn't either, but but yeah, so, yeah, two situations here,
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I think within a week of each other. And that's
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that's uh sad. We'll say that's that's it's just sad.
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So and Carl Reiner, I mean sorry, that was his father.
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Rob Runner was seventy eight and his wife was sixty
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eight and both of them were dead.
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Yeah, but he you know, they they were also impactful
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beyond That's how.
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I know him from when I worked in the legislature,
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and he was very active, I want to say, with
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the First five Commission and a couple of other ballot
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measures and different i would say democratic issues and causes.
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He you know, was a major donor, gave a lot
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of money, did a lot of work, uh in that area.
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And that is another way that I also just remember
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him from my time working in the Assembly. But yeah,
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it's just it's like, oh, no, is this going to
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be how the week goes? Are we starting off here?
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And it's just gonna get to be a crazy week
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because that that news last night was very much a shock.
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Yeah. And to your point about his political donations and
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his activism, his and his wife, you know, Barack Obama
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is make put out a statement about Rob Reiner. Not
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every actor would we know, would resonate that way, but
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he definitely was I would say, a liberal maybe progressive,
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you know, on the liberal progressive cusp there and really
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concerned about saving our democracy, which is always a good thing. Yeah. Yeah,
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So rest in peace, to Rob Reiner and his wife
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and his wife Michelle. Yeah, yeah, well yeah, of course
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her being less known his pictures on everything, but I'm.
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Sure you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, the woman sometimes always
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gets sort of second mentioned. And yeah, well.
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Yeah, if anything, whenever anything happens to Oprah, she's the headline.
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You know. If it was Oprah insteadman, he'd be there,
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but it wouldn't be his picture. So I think this
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is more about fame and fortune than the gender, perhaps,
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but we could be wrong. Well, I'm glad Jasmine is here.
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We do have a lot to talk about. It really
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got me. Well, yeah, I know, yeah, it's like please anyway,
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I love it when people come in, especially people that
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are full of great things to say. And I'm always
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talking about media literacy and the way that the press
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covers different things, and I think it's one of the
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most important things now that we can teach our kids
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and ourselves because of AI, because of missing disinformation, just
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the sophisticated way that things that are not factual are
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being presented to us.
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Absolutely, it's as a media strategist that is a huge
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issue of mine as well. It's can oftentimes be very
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tricky on how to approach it and how to deal
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with certain issues when dealing with the media. But sometimes
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it's just, you know, the media bias is so blatant
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and so you know, it's it's just so obvious that
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I feel like we have a responsibility and a duty
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to call it out, particularly in this time when things
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are so bad with the mainstream media. And when I
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say bad, I just mean, like you were saying, missing
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disinformation and it we you know, they depend on us,
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where their viewers, where their listeners. They have a responsibility
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to us to tell the truth and to also be
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factual in the truth, especially when the mission right, especially
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when they like to call other folks out for for
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not doing the same.
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So absolutely, yeah, so we have a case of we do.
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We have one such call out. We'll share that with
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you when we come forward. I'm KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.
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So when you say media strategist jazz mechanic for the
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not familiar, what does that really mean?
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I help, Uh, I helped David B.
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Goliath.
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So that's how I like to look at a lot
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of the work that I do. Right, So, whether it's
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on you know, campaigns or political candidates or nonprofit organizations
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do a lot of work with law firms. That is
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how these I mean, you you've been around long enough
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to remember when they never talked about these types of
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the cases that we see on the news now right right.
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If they did, they were only reading the police department
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or the district attorney's press release. It was never the
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other side, right right. And so yeah, I do a
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lot of work and trying to even the playing field
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as it relates to the media. And I've been doing
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that for a really, really long time, and I do
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enjoy that work because I think it's it's important. I
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think it's important that both sides have an opportunity to
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speak to the public. Oftentimes, especially if you're going up
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against a big government entity, you know that has a
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whole department dedicated to communications and public relations, it can
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be really hard for you know, the i'll just say
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smaller entity to have the same impact. And I helped
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give them that same impact.
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Right, I mean, I think the classic case of that
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for me is ed Buck, where you know, it was
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a small story. Of course you were part of the
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story too because you were an activist in that case,
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but you helped make sure it became a national story.
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Yeah, I kind of had to pull from all my
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different hats from that, my political work, my media work,
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my you know, my advocacy work. Like that was a
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unique situation for me where I just pulled from all
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these different corners of my life.
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But but yeah, absolutely, Like for those not familiar, that
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was a political donor who was a Democratic political donor
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experimenting on human beings. Yeah, who says, well, you say democratic,
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but he started as a Republican.
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Story as a Republican. But he is known for being
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a Democratic political donor. I mean the money which has
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got was over a million dollars that he's given to
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different candidates and stuff was given to most what was
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given to Democrats. So he is a Democratic donor, that's
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for sure.
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And some kind of serial murder, kind of serial killer
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thing going on with his sex life and Jasmine, you
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helped expose that and make sure he went behind bars
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basically offing black men.
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Yeah, basically, yeah, I did, and there he sits and
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hopefully he'll he'll that is where he will remain. But
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you know, we still fight in that case, so we
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will see.
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So yeah, so their cases you probably heard of read
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about various stories in the media. So last week we
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were both part of a press conference which was also
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a signing ceremony.
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Yeah, okay, so it's so for folks who don't know, Yeah,
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last week, I think it was on Thursday. We were
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downtown Los Angeles. Another reference to my beloved Prince's Bride movie,
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which I called the the Pitta Despair or the Bog
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of Eternal Stench.
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But we were in downtown Los Angeles.
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I'm a friend of the lap LAPD Metropolitan Detention Center,
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which is the LAPD jail right there on Los Angeles Street.
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And it was a presser, a press conference with Black
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Lives Matter Los Angeles Assembly Member Isaac Bryan, who had
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carried Wakesha's law, and as well as Council Member Isabelle Herado,
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who represents the fourteenth district of which Los Angeles Downtown
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Los Angeles is a part of. So it was a
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it was and it was a great from a media perspective.
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Just about every channel was there.
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It was.
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It was very well covered, right, and the reason for
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the press conference was because Black Lives Matter Los Angeles
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helped get Jakeisha's law basically over the line and into law,
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you know, for folks who don't know how laws work.
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Some laws, yes, lawmakers come up with on their own.
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Other laws are brought to them by a community activists,
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community organizations, businesses, and in this case, Black Lives Matter
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Los Angeles had worked very very closely with Jakisha Wilson's family,
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including Miss Lisa Hines, her mother, and her aunt, Sheila Hines.
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And so the press conference was one, in my opinion,
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to one celebrate that, but also to just you know,
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just show a good illustration of what can happen when
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community gets together and works with an elected official to
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get to pass a lot.
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This was a lot that had.
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To go up for a vote in Sacramento, so other
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people had to weigh in on it, and then the
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governor had to sign it in the law. And we
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have seen the things that he does not sign into
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a lot, right, I have seen the things that the
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man vetos. But this one was signed into a lot
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has been lost in September, and so.
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Yeah, it was a great you know you were there.
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I thought it was a great press conference. It was
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a great press conference. Thank you for getting all the
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different news channels out there. I was happy for Lisa Hines.
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The Jaukisha's Mama and Sheila Hines. They've been through a lot,
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they've never given up. And Black Lives Matter Grassroots you know,
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of course that's BLMLA is one of their fifty two chapters.
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You know, really did play a role in it, absolutely.
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Lobbying Isaac Brian going to Sacramento. Look, this has been
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talked about for quite some time, Waukeisha's Law, Jakeisha's Law,
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and you know it's something that as any organization would
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be proud of that work if they were able to
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get a state law done behind something that they advocated for.
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Right, and it's the first state law named after a
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black woman, and it's something that's gonna help a lot
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of people because it requires law enforcement to notify you
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within twenty four hours if your loved one is killed
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while in prison or or hospitalized, which should.
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Not require a law, right, but it mus be very clear, right,
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it should not require a law. But now it is
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a law. And as you know Miss Lisa said at
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the press conference, you know, she hopes no one ever
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has to use it, but she's happy that that it
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that that something was able to come of her daughter's death.
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And so we have a clip for folks. So listen,
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I think you're gonna hear Dominique. You're gonna hear miss
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she's a low low because she moved her mouth away
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from from from the mic at the press conference. But
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you'll hear a few things.
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She moved her mic away to say thank you.
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Yeah and so uh yeah. So let's take a listen.
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What's it like to bring up Lisa Hines, who's the
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mama of Wakisha Wilson.
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Thank you for speaking today the.
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Fight you know.
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Okay, First of all, I give up Sheila Bays. Black
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Lives Matter, the whole.
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Commandity, and because of their advocacy, because of their consistency,
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their willingness to come up to Sacramento to fight for
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things that are bigger than themselves, no family will ever
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have to go through that again. Wakeisha's Law was signed
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by the governor this past September, and that was signed
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with an urgency clause, which means that was passed with
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two thirds a two thirds majority, meaning it went in
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to effect immediately. Wakisha's Law has been the law in
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California since September.
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I think all of the leaders behind you an assembly
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member for passing this through because.
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This work is so important for my neighborhood.
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It's you're in c. Fourteenth and I'm grateful to Pastor
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q kb LA and of course Black Lives Matter for
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their advocacy, Thank you so much.
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Yeah, yeah, noticed the What do we notice about those clips?
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Aside from council Member Isava Hurravo, who I saw off
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conferring with Wakisha's auntie saying they're working on Wakisha Wilson Square.
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That's nice and she's you know, she's working diligently on that.
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Aside from you know, Assembly Member Brian who obviously carried
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that bill and got it across the finish line. What
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am I looking for in those clips?
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You're listening to folks think Black Lives Matter, think BLML
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black Lives Matter, grassroots for the work, for the advocacy,
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And I think that that's really important as we go
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into this discussion, so that folks understand, you know, what
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the gripe is right when the media comes out to
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cover our events and then turns around and reports on
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it and excludes the very people who brought them the
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event in the first place.
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Yeah, I mean that it seems completely outrageous, but it's
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it's not uncommon.
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That's very common. Really, it is very common. What is
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uncommon is saying anything about it because a lot of
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organizations are scared that if they do speak up about
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a story that is factually incorrect or biased, that they
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will never get covered again, that they you know, that
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they will be in trouble with that media entity. But again,
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like I said earlier, I mean, in this day and age,
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we have to speak up about these issues. And I
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will also say, you know, I remember when we were
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talking about doing this today and I was saying, yeah,
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it's also just a reminder of why entities like KBLA
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and other black media is so important, because we don't
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we we don't erase ourselves out of our own victories.
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Yeah, we don't. Well, and that was, to be clear,
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a huge victory for assemby remember Brian for Black Lives Matter,
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Grassroots b l MLA for the family fighting ten years
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ten years, right, It's a little yeah, absolutely.
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I mean many organizations spend hundreds of thousands of dollars
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every year on lobbyists, consultants trying to get laws passed
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in Sacramento and even traveling up there to go in
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a lot back right and come up short. Aren't able
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to get things over the finish line, and here you
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have a situation where it went over the finish line
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and it was signed into law by the governor. And
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then I turned on ABC seven to watch the news,
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and I was wondering if we were both at the
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same press conference, because and I say that jokingly, but
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I was standing right next to the photographer for ABC seven,
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so obviously we both heard the same thing. But when
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they decided to edit the story, they excluded Black Lives
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Matter out of it completely and just whittled them down
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to just some civil rights activists. And to me, that
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is completely unacceptable because I also watched this same network
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do stories about bike advocates, dog advocates, cat advocates, all
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kinds of different groups, and they never not name the
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group right.
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They don't just say Civil Rights Act to his cat
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rights activity, right, the exact Peter or whatever, the exact
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cat Ladies Justice or whatever organization exactly. And I'm just like,
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what's up with that?
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Because especially when you have the mother of Wakeisha Wilson
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thanking Black Lives Matter, you have the assembly member, the
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council member, how do you do that, how do you
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do that?
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How do you do that? We've got news, traffic and sports,
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and then we'll look at that because it's a key
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point in media literacy. What do they have to do
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and what do they not have to do in reporting
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on a story. Jasminchanic takes on Goliath as per usual.
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KPLA Talk fifteen to eighty. Leo Stalworth has more on
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Wakisha's Law, which requires families to be informed within twenty
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four hours if a loved one is hospitalized or dies
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in custody.
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Civil rights activists, family members, lawmakers honoring the memory of
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thirty six year old Wakisha Wilson and celebrating the passage
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of Wakisha's Law.
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It was nearly ten years ago where she lost life
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in the LAPD holding cell, and it was several days
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after that before her family found out what had happened.
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When I found out my baby had died, it was
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the four longest days of my life.
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The law requires county, city and municipal jails to inform
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families within twenty four hours if a loved one is
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hospitalized due to a serious or critical medical condition or
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dies while in custody. Wakeisha died while in La County
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lock up March twenty seventh of twenty sixteen, her devastated
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family not learning about her death for almost a week.
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I pray, well, I shouldn't even have to be praying
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about it now because Wakeisha's Law has been passed, But
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I was praying that no one endure the four longest
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days of their life as I did.
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Wakisha's Law was signed by the governor this past September,
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and it was signed with an urgency clause, which means
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it was passed with two thirds a two thirds majority,
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meaning it went into effect immediately.
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The La County Medical Examiner's Office ruling Markeisha's death suicide
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by hanging a level of grief just too much to
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endure for the woman's family, especially finding out this horrible
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news days after she had passed away.
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I watched my sister not eating, I watched her lose weight.
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We were devastated. We couldn't even go to the corner's office.
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I'm so thankful for this law. It's in effect, but
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I hope nobody has to use it.
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Leo Store with ABC seven Eyewitness News.
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Okay, so that's the story in question. Do you remember
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seeing Liu there. I don't actually, all right, was he there? No, yeah,
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I don't remember seeing him there, but his.
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Photographer was there. I was standing next to the right right.
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They had to because they got the footage. Yeah, so
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it's almost like they went out of their way not
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to mention Black Lives Matter, groots, the way the edits.
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Are done and everything, even to the point where they
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didn't even use anyone from Black Lives Matter who spoke.
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Right, and they were standing up there the little time.
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Sheila Bates was not quoted, doctor Malina Abdullah was not quoted.
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And I know this is probably in the weeds too
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early in the morning, but I've had my coffee, y'all,
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so work with me. This is a two minute piece
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that is some serious real estate on television.
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Yeah that's long, Okay, So.
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You intentionally did that because this wasn't a thirty second
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which is usually what stories that just have a photographer
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a sign to it, and not necessarily a reporter. They'll
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usually just get a voiceover by the anchors while showing
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the b roll on the news. You might get thirty
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to forty five seconds, maybe twenty seconds. This is two
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minutes long, and you managed to not mention the one
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organization that did the work.
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Do you think that new mainstream news organizations are afraid
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to mention black lives matter?
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They are afraid of a lot of things. Let me
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tell you it would not surprise me. I mean you,
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we live in a city in a media market where
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they will give one man organizations more press than an
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organization that actually has a base, that actually gets things done.
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I watched the news here and I am amazed at
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the number of one man organizations. Okay, and don't nobody
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text me or DM me talking about I should have
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said one person. I am saying exactly what I want
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to say. I'm saying one man organizations. We have quite
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a few of these people running around the city representing us.
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They are one man organizations, and the news is constantly
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calling out their name, their organization's name, as if they
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have some large membership, some large network, or any membership
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at all aside from themselves. Right, And then I sit
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here and I look at an organization that has done
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this great work, and I know that if it were
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a bike advocacy group, if it were a child advocacy group,
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if it were any other group, the group would have
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been named in the story, the group would have had
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would not have been reduced down to just activists or
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civil rights activists. And I think that that's a slight
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against the organization. And I would love to know why
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from ABC seven and Leo Stalworth.
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I really would you would because you wrote a letter
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about I sure i'd.
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Make it public, but maybe I should make a public
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But I did write a letter to Leo and I
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asked him about that because as a journalist, even from
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a journalistic point of view, that omission makes your story
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factually incorrect. And also it's really clear because again, like
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I said in my letter to Leo, I stid next
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to you, a photographer. We both I'm pretty sure we
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both heard the same things. We just played the clips
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on the air earlier. So clearly, you know, Black Lives
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Matter was given the credit for doing the work, forgetting.
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By the law, by the law makers, by the families.
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So what possible reason could ABC seven have for not
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including the name of the organization.
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I mean, as a media strategist, it's kind of a
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little gutsy of you to be criticizing the tist. Most
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media strategists are just kiss the ring if anyone shows
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up at all true.
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That is absolutely true. And we'll just see how this
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works out for me. But you know, it's just not right.
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It's not right.
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It's not right. And I'm tired. Like that was like
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short short side note. That was why Towanda was created.
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I'm just tired of living in this world where the
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bad people always win. It can't be that short of
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a side note because not everyone knows who Tuanda isma.
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This morning bad.
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That is why I have an ai alter ego named Towanda,
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because in that universe and Twanda universe, Twanda Verse, the
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bad guys don't always win, like there is some balance
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in the universe, right, And and so yeah, I did
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send a letter to Leo. You read the letter. It
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wasn't mean, it wasn't accusatory. It was like, yo, what's
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what you know? What's going on here?
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You know? Yeah? And I mean, and to your point
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about the one person organization, to me, it's actually a
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contradiction in terms because definitionally it's not an organization if
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you'll they have one person.
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And are you really a leader when you're not leading anyone?
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You can be a thought leader maybe, but but these
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people are portrayed on the news as running like some
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large organization and and the and we know that that
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they don't. And so they're chosen by the mainstream media,
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not chosen by the community. The absolutely as a community leader,
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no one's following them, no one in the community acknowledges them.
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So that means that the mainstream media feels they have
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the right to anoint our black leaders, and.
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We continue to let them get away because you see,
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they don't get that play in the black media. If
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you notice these same people that we are talking about,
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you don't see them all over the black media in
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that way because because exactly, but yeah, so I yeah,
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so hopefully ABC seven, hopefully Leo Stahl or someone, hopefully
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someone responds to that. So far, no, I think that
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it's it's worth having discussion about, particularly because we have
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a lot of organizations in La County that do a
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lot of great work. They don't all have comms directors
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or folks who can help them get you know, in
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the media. A lot of times you have an executive
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director who's also accounts payable accounts receivable, who's also doing
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the comms, who's also doing everything. You know, so they
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you just don't and when you have organizations that use
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the limited funds that they have make this effort to
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try to strategically get you know, their messaging out because again,
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you know, folks, it's all part of a bigger picture
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a lot of comms. That's really important to a lot
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of organizations because it also helps when you're trying to
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get you know, funders interested in your group, where you're
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trying to raise money and you're trying to do all
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these things. You want to show the work that you've done.
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Getting a state law passed is huge.
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It is huge.
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Not there are businesses, like I said earlier, that spend
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one hundreds of thousands of dollars millions of dollars every
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year and don't succeed in getting that done. So, yes,
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you give credit to the assembly member, of course, but
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you do not exclude the organization that was the genesis,
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particularly when you have the mother of Jakeisha Wilson making
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it very clear how we got from A to B.
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Yeah, it's a great point. And I also think that
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they're quick to say black lives matter when they're talking
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about a scandal which may or may not even be
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the real black lives matter, right, They're quick to say,
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to call out Black Lives Matter when they're trying to
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say the movement is dead, or when they're trying to
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call out some person who's you know, committed a crime
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that they're not even connected with this chapter or any
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chapter I mean, or yeah, you hear it all the time.
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I see it so many times. They say Black Lives
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Matter activists arrested for blah blahlah, and then you look
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at it and the organization is you know, like you know,
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brothers and sisters for garbage collection and it has nothing
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to do with Black Lives Matter. They just label it
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that when it's the actual BLM Grassroots, the crickets, that's
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to me, it's more than lazy. It's it's it's a
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deliberate erasure.
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And it absolutely is. And look, let's be really clear,
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doctor Malina Abdullah, Sheila Bates, everyone associated with BLM Grassroots
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and BLMLA, they don't have any problem speaking up for themselves.
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I did it because, as someone who had organized, helped
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organize that presser, had made, you know, reached out to
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the media to get them there, and felt like somewhat
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responsible for the the media coverage that came out of it.
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I was just absolutely shocked when I saw that piece,
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like I didn't even really want. I ended up posting
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it on my own personal social media, but if you saw,
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I gave it a title. I wrote a whole caption
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because I had to clean it up for myself because
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I just could not believe they just erased them out
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out of the story like that. And that is what
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we need to do as a community. We need to
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stop letting the mainstream media get away with putting people
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on the news claiming that they represent our community without
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sending an email, making a call saying why do you
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have that fool on their saying that he represents us.
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We need to stop letting stories like what you heard
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with Leo Stalworth air and then not reach out to
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ABC seven and say, hey, yo, I know that Black
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Lives Matter played a huge role in this. Why aren't
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they mentioned. If we don't call them out, if we
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don't ever say anything, why should their behavior ever change.
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It's not going to change on vibes at all. Trust
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and believe it's going to change because they're hearing from
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their audience. They're hearing from the folks who they're trying
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to hold on to. And when I say, trying to
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hold on to everybody's trying to hold on to, particularly
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in the mainstream media, because there's too much competition now,
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there's too many other places for us to get our
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news from.
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Yeah, I mean to me, the fact that you're probably
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one of the bigger named black reporters in southern California
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and you feel like you can go to a not
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even go send your camera to a Black Lives Matter
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organized in conjunction with the assembly member event and then
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not even mention them like that is the ultimate I
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think that's the ultimate illusion of inclusion that Paul Mooney
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talked about. You're such a you're so outside of our
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community that you can come to a press conference and
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then you don't even go to it, and then you
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report on it as if you were there, and you
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cut out the organization Black Lives Matter. That's really pretty bold.
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It is bold, and I'm sure that perhaps when if
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I post our get together this morning on the air,
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I might include the scene from one of my favorite movies,
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This Summer of sam.
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Where do It Do It?
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When Spike Lee was a reporter in Bedsty and he
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got some comment from from the people in Bedsty when
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he went down there to get their reaction to.
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It's not to say I'm killing because.
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This is what that reminds me of.
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Yeah, well, Molly Bell wants to know if it's legal,
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and it is, they can they can write whatever they
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want and they can omit whatever they want.
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Doesn't make it right. And again, you know, we're we're
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no strangers to fighting and calling out things right. So
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you know, if you know, if you feel like this
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is wrong too, you should reach out to Leo Stalwarth.
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You should reach out to ABC seven and say something
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about that, because again, when it comes again, we have
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all of these organizations who do such great work in
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Los Angeles and it is not fair and it is
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not right for an organization to be omitted from their
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own story.
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Yeah, well, you're invited to call in if you want.
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Eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty eight hundred and
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nine too oh fifteen eighty. I remember from when I
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worked at kr O NTV, one email or one letter
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just had a huge impact because most people aren't going
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to write. You know, one one letter or emails counted
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heavier than a call. But a call is also good
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because it lets them know people are paying attention and
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they don't like what you're doing, and that that is
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the kind of thing that actually changes things sometimes in
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media organizations. Eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. Jasminchanic
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is here and you're listening to KBLA talk fifteen eighty. Yes,
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Jasminchanic is my guest. She'll be back in here any minute.
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Thinks she's over there talking to Miles. But look, this
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is why I always talk about media literacy, because part
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of it is just part of it is knowing how
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to read between the headlines. Right, And so I mean, Jasmine,
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you see this and you immediately say, what how did
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they not credit?
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Now?
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How did they not mention Black Lives Matter? It's their event?
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But these kinds of things get by people all the
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time because we don't have the media savvy, like where
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do you think we should start? I think it's something
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so important.
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So I would not have expected, like the average viewer
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to have known that Black Lives Matter had such an
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integral part of that, right, because if you weren't there,
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you if me at the press conference, right, It's so
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the responsibility is on those of us who were there
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to call.
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Out that that bias, to call.
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That out right. And so now that it's been called out,
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folks who are concerned, they should reach out to ABC seven,
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go to their website, go to their socials, DM them,
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tag them and stuff on social media.
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Hit up Leo Stalworth like I did.
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I went to him directly with send an email to
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him on Friday. I think maybe he hasn't checked his emails, but.
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I have a heard back from them.
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Yeah, but I'm just curious, like how you do that,
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especially when I can go to ABC's website and point
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to other stories that that same reporter is done where
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he has named organizations right in his story. So I
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think it's important. I think it's even important for BLM
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grassroots to speak up. I mean again, I did it
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just because I felt a little bit like, hey, I
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was the one that you know, wrote the media advisory,
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got the media out there, and I'm looking at going
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over the press coverage that followed, and I'm like this
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is whack. Like it's great, it's two minutes long. That's
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like I said, some serious real estate in a newscast.
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But I'm like, how do you just exclude I don't,
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I don't get it, Like I just it had to
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me it seemed very intentional.
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But I feel like it is partly intimidation. I mean,
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you look at these news organizations are literally writing multimillion
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dollar checks to the president. Yes, the President has already
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put Black Lives Matter on his executive order to Antifa,
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which is not an organization, and then and then Black
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Lives Matter Grassroots, which is so you know, he's already
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targeted them. So I'm wondering. I mean, maybe it's sort
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of a lack of I don't know, a lack of understanding,
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but I feel like there's an intimidation factor coming into
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play too a little bit.
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Like I said earlier, I think there that this happens
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more often than not. And one of the issues is that, again,
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like I said, organizations don't like to call this behavior
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out because they don't want to be blacklisted. They don't
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want to not be covered the next time they're having
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some sort of event that they invite the press to right,
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and it shouldn't work like that. It absolutely shouldn't. And
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regardless of that, I think we have a responsibility to
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demand accurate coverage from the mainstream media here in Los
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Angeles County. That news report was not right.
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It was actually incorrect. Now I see why BLM Grassroots
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and some of these other organizations hold up big banners
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behind you elected. So it's like that's maybe that's the
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only way they can get insure proper credit.
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Yeah, and of course, you know, recording it yourself and
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posting it on your own but and you know, and
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I'm so happy that I had thought to record that
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entire presser on my other phone, because it was really
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I was like, let me go back, and I just
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want to go back.
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Did I hear what I thought I heard? Let me
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go back and make sure.
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Yeah, they think BLM yep, they think b LM.
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Yep, they did.
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Okay, Okay, it's not just me, you know, and I
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think I know that BLM is BLM LA, BLM Grassroots
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is planning on posting the graph, the uh videos.
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Yeah, what's wrong. No, we're way over time. Let's go okay, Yeah,
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we got news trafficking sports Jasmine. Thank you so much. Problem,
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You're amazing, KBLA Talk, fifteen eighty