Everything’s Perfect Except… There Will Never Be Another Dolly

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Hopefully you can't see things. Hopefully I don't look enormous.
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Let's weigh this.
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So let me wear a white shirt, show you the
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rollies and the pullies. Okay. You know what I'm going
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to do?
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Shake it up to wake it up.
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Shake it up to wake it up.
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And then give it a split second just so it
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doesn't explode. Sometimes when I shake it, it gives it
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a little, and I'm like, that's rude. Sounds like a
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good mood.
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If this is a one-a-day situation, you're going to need
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to put that on the label, girl.
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It's not a one-a-day. I like to try to alternate
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and have my water in between.
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Do you still drink water? I'm just kidding. That'll kill you. Lettuce, water. Fruit, vegetables. Yeah.
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Cookie dough is what we should be eating.
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Speaking, I was thinking about that, you know, well, you know,
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another trip to Italy is coming next year. Yeah. And
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we're going to Sardinia, which is one of the blue zones.
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And I was thinking about. Sardinia. Is it Sardinia? Okay. Well,
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you don't have to say it right to know it's
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the place.
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It sounded like you were saying sardines.
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I was saying sardinia.
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I know. Yeah. By the way, I could totally be wrong.
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So don't put me on my high horse. I could
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very well be wrong, but I did go there. I'm
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pretty sure it's sardinia.
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But I'm so excited to go. You've been there before.
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But what I love is thinking about like, in a way,
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It's like, yes, all the details, all the info matters,
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but something about these blue zones that's so interesting is
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these people are not obsessing in the same way over like,
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Like the amount of things that I take to try
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to stay healthy and young and youthful. No, it's only here.
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And these bitches are like, oh, we cook pasta and
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walk every day.
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I do want to say one thing, though, because I've
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thought this through. I've watched that documentary. That's why I
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went to Sardinia. That's why I took Dom there. I
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was like, I want to see what the Blue Zone
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is all about. First of all, it's very hard to tell. Well,
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first of all, so when Dom and I went, of course,
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we're at a very nice hotel. But then we go
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into the like town for the day one day. We
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wouldn't survive a day.
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Really? No. Because it's old, like small.
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Donald, it's like a movie. There's just people sitting out
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in courtyards. The houses are really like they're really like
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from hundreds of years ago. If there's two rooms in
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the house that was considered like luxury, they're like this
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big if you go up and down the stairs. It's
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not like you're sitting in a town where there's the
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grocery store and the Sephora. There's no Postmates?
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Exactly. It is. I think I could do it. I
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would wear my French beret, even though it's Italy.
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Okay. Well, you're already banned.
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No, I would.
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There's no stores. You're shopping in the local market. That's it.
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Doesn't that sound... It does.
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For a hot second, but I also feel like... We
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would have to be very.
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It would be a culture fucking shock.
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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Like, I wonder if... That's why I said, I wonder
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if we would really survive it because, like, after a
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certain amount of time, are you just bored? But that's
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because that's how we've learned to live.
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Well, that's the thing. What's interesting about Sardinia is the most, like,
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stats and even other blue zones... There's far more women
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living above 100 than men. And I can remember if
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I press record, like, not that again. But anyways, I digress.
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There's far more women living past 100 than men. But
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in Sardinia, it's like one to one. Yeah. And the
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biggest reason they can find is stress. That the men,
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the most common work, like... like job that they have
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is like being a shepherd. Yeah. Yeah. And so there's
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the kind of stress that a lot of men feel
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in society around their profession and stuff like that. And
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also men in our society, I think aren't given tools
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to handle the stress very well. It's not a manly
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thing to do, but that's so interesting because I was
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actually talking to someone else about that. Who's very skeptical
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of everything. And he was like, that's pretty impressive because
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everywhere women by far outlive the men, but in this
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setting it's one-to-one. So I can't wait. Can I say
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if just in case, if there's still spots, you guys,
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so Nell and I are doing a retreat next summer
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to this blue zone, Sardinia or Sardinia, I'll get back, Italy.
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And if it's not sold out by the time you're
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listening to this, I'd love to have you join. You
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can check it out on my Instagram.
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I'm going to warn you. It's super far South. Like it's,
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All the way down. It's an island. It's going to
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be hot AF because we're going in July. I think
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I took Dom the first week of August, but we're
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going for your, because I'm going to Donald's retreat, July.
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It's beautiful. You will see yachts that literally you're trying
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to figure out if it's a cruise ship or not.
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I know, girl. That's what I was saying.
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Find me a man.
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One of the days we have like we're going to
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be on a boat and checking out the coast and
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you'll see all the yachts. That was one of my
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favorite things about the Amalfi Coast. Yeah. So I'm excited.
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And I just loved how my favorite thing about Italy
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is just how old everything is.
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Is well that's Europe for you in general yeah so
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and but and one of the things I'll just say
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really quick about blue zones because that is also not
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what this episode it is about y'all know how we.
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Do um it's community yeah community is a huge thing
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like it is they talk about how they don't have
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a lot of like nursing homes or anything because that's
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like what.
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Kind of person would put their grandparents in a nursing
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home or their parents and it like it's not a
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thing yeah um and these people are like working in
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their gardens but what i was gonna say was because
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you were like oh my god they're so healthy and
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we take all the things we hear in the states
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and by that we hear i really mean you and
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i uh physical appearance is something we care about i'm
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not saying that they don't i'm.
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Just kidding It's right up there. It's really head to
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head for first place.
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It's equal parts appearance and health. So a lot of
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them are obviously very healthy because one, they don't have
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the stress. They have the community. They're constantly staying active.
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But the one thing I don't think that a lot
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of these centenarians are looking at is. do I have
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a six pack? What does my ass look like? So
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that's on us.
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So that's what the supplements are for. And then we'll
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do the healthy, no stress lifestyle for the long aging.
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Yeah. Listen, I messaged you when you were there and
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I was like, so when are we moving? And I
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will tell you like both when we went to Italy
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and when Dom and I went to Paris, I was like,
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there's just a part of me that is called to
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Europe these days, which feels crazy.
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Me too, girl.
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I mean, my grandparents are from Italy, but it does
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feel a little like, wow, I'm tired of the 9
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to 5. And by 9 to 5, I mean 6
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to 11.
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By 9 to 5, I mean 6 a.m. to 6 a.m.
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Because it's a 24-hour situation around here.
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Seven days a week.
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Well, speaking of 9 to 5.
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That's why I did it.
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I know. Good job.
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But fix your pants because it's bothering me.
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Oh girl, that would have driven me crazy. Thank you.
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I can't. Right up there with the, like when my
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pants are hooked in the back of my shoes. Not
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a crash. I'm like, okay. Anyways.
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So nine to five.
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So this episode is not going to be as heavy,
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but it is sad because, and now we've had a
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few weeks before this episode comes out to mourn it.
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But the passing of Dolly Parton.
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We lost a legend.
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Like, An complete icon. Yeah. I have loved her my
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entire life.
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Same. Like obsessed with Dolly Parton. She is just, she
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was just the coolest.
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And I've noticed so many things. I think I always
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just loved her and never questioned why. And since she's passed, I've,
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all these things about her have really stood out to me.
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And I'm like, oh my God, that was that That light,
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that piece of her that's just so special that really
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is what sort of connected with me.
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I think she was that light so much because she
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was so unapologetically herself.
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Yes.
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And not in a bad way or a cocky way
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or anything. She just was like, this is me.
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Yeah.
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And I love me. And I'm okay with who I am.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's so funny because society oftentimes
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judges people who get plastic surgery or have any kind
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of work done or wear too much makeup or dress
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a certain way. And one of the first things they say,
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and it's kind of low-hanging fruit to just say this,
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is that's because they're insecure. They're not comfortable with themselves.
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So they're changing all these things about themselves. And she
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has this really, like, this... specific way of being someone
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who I don't think anyone could look at her and
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say she was insecure no and it actually takes confidence
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to show up in rooms looking the way she did
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yeah she wasn't trying to look like anyone else except
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for maybe the woman that she just her her town
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tramp as she said she said everyone called her the
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town tramp and she thought she was the most beautiful
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that's what she wanted to be when she grew up.
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Yeah she I mean she did talk about like I
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watched her I think the, one of the things I
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watched most recently was her interview with Khloe Kardashian. Like
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she was on Khloe's podcast and she's still, you know,
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she was still just so, this was only like a
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year ago that she did the podcast interview. But yeah,
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so just like, like I said, unapologetically herself, she talked
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about wearing her makeup and I think it might have
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been her grandpa that was like telling her kind of
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because she was very religious that like the Lord wasn't
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okay with that and she basically just put grandpa in
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his place and said I don't think the Lord is
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judging me and I'm gonna be me and I just
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I just think that was like one of those unique
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things about her yeah that she just was not afraid
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to be who she is and who she felt really
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comfortable being in her body.
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Yeah. And it really, through that lens, you can see
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how it guided so much of her life.
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So much of her accomplishments and accolades and everything, being
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so sure of herself.
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You know what's so interesting? Because obviously, like, you know,
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she had the accent and And she, you know, she's
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got the big boobs and she wears the blonde wigs
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and she wears all the makeup and the things and
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the rhinestones. So you could obviously judge that book by
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that cover if you wanted to. She had such a
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unique way of saying some of the most profound things.
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Oh my God. I said the exact same thing the
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other day.
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Really?
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She did.
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Yes.
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Like just simplifying it and being like, yeah.
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Yeah, that.
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Yeah. I shared something she said because people oftentimes in
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interviews wanted her to adopt something specific, like a religion. Because,
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you know, especially when she came from that time in
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country music, you're supposed to be about, you know.
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God and guns, Jesus and the flag.
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Exactly. And so she didn't really ever let herself get
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cornered into it. And I saw an interview where she said,
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it started out very simple and it's so refreshing about
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she's no saint, but she just tries to get up
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every day and live it like to the fullest. And
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she started saying and seeing that God light in people,
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in everyone.
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In everyone.
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That's in everyone. And I was like, Bitch, that is
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so profound and something that if we could all recognize
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that and see that. Yeah.
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Like I'm going to be a good person and I'm
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going to try to see the good in everybody else.
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Yeah. And that I feel like, I mean, I know
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she knew a lot of people, but where she came
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from would have influenced her more to say things and
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there's nothing wrong with it, but to say very specific
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religious soundbites. I don't even need to say them. Yeah.
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But she didn't. She just really kept her... Faith walks
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so open. And that is one thing I admire so
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much about her. And it reminds me that you can
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be deeply spiritual just with your simple practice. And that's
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how I feel. That's how I think about her. Yeah.
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It's one of my favorite things about her.
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So many things. We actually took notes because we were like,
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let's not be all over the place today. But we
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actually didn't talk about what notes are on your card
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or my card.
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You want to go first?
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Well.
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Lay something on me. An interesting.
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I mean, obviously, like, okay, so one of her quotes is,
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find out who you are and do it on purpose.
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And I think she did that. I think she did
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that at a very young age. And I think she
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walked that walk her whole life. She knew exactly who
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she was. She knew exactly what she wanted out of life.
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She knew exactly who she wanted to show up as.
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And I think that Probably has a lot to do with,
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didn't she always just seem happy? I'm not saying that
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life was always perfect for her, but she just always
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seemed happy. And I got to assume a lot of
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it has to do with you just know who you are.
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And so you're not trying to like bend and mold
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and fold into who does everybody want me to be?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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She was really authentically herself. And I love that for her.
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And I love that about her. And I think it's
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very inspirational. I'm sort of trying to take a little
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piece of Dolly right there with that and going, who
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cares what they say?
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This is me.
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She also, to your point about her always being happy,
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and this is something I wrote, but we, if you
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are a Dolly fan or even know a little bit
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about her, she grew up poor. That's not just like,
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like sometimes I say I grew up poor. Yeah. She
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grew up poor.
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One of 12.
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12 kids. Yeah. Parents. One room house. no running water,
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like in the mountains of Tennessee, just poor. Her song,
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Coat of Many Colors, is a true story. Her mom
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literally took all these different pieces of fabric and sewed
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her a coat because they couldn't afford a coat. And
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she wrote this song about basically how amazing she felt
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in the coat, like how beautiful she felt. And my
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note was, I've never heard her talk about a moment
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of her life without gratitude. She finds a way to
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talk about when she was poor and a child. And
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she said, we always had food to eat. It wasn't
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always necessarily the food we wanted, but we always had
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food to eat. I always had a bed to sleep in.
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I might not have been in it by myself, but
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I always had a bed to sleep in. See what
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I mean? Yes. She just... A remarkable person.
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We should have studied her brain.
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Right.
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And been like, what was going on up there? Because
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we all need a little more of that. Because it is,
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I do think that that's probably something that you can
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actually teach yourself, right? You can teach yourself to see
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the good. I actually just saw something the other day
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on social media that, well, not the other day, it
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was probably a couple of weeks ago. And I don't
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know what expert was saying this, but he was saying
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it's the rule of three that he has always, that
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like anytime something bad goes happen, he immediately identifies three
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positive things about it. So if he gets a flat tire,
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he immediately says, at least I have a car that
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can get a flat tire. at least I have a spare,
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at least I have triple A or I have the
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money to replace it.
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That's so good.
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Like immediately before he does anything else, he just identifies
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three things of like, okay, this bad thing's happening, but
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I have these ways to handle it. Or at least
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I'm lucky enough to be able to have the thing
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happen because not everybody has a car to get a
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flat tire.
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So true.
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So I do think it is something that you can
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practice and build up like a habit. Some people probably
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have it more naturally than others. 100%. I do not
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have it naturally.
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I have it pretty naturally. Do you? It's interesting because like,
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you know, one of my best friends, Tara, when we
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lived together, I think she'd be okay with me sharing
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this story. I hope so because she also listens to
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the podcast. I love you, Tara. I hope this is okay.
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But I would notice, like, for example... We lived in
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one of our apartments we lived in in Nashville was
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a two bedroom, one bathroom, which already is like when
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you have a roommate, it's nice if you each have
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your own bathroom. And then something happened where our door broke.
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we were like propping this door up that wouldn't let
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up against the bathroom. But I remember having this moment
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where I was sitting in the bathtub and looking like
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around the bathroom. And it was a really, honestly, this, the, the,
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when the building was made, it was made to be
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low income, like government housing. Someone ended up purchasing it
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and sort of like upgraded them, but it was still,
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the walls were cinder blocks and this bathroom probably would
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feel like if there were private bathrooms in a prison
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cell or something like, but I was sitting there and
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I just felt so much gratitude. And I wasn't looking
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for it. And that's why I say I can acknowledge
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it's easy. Yeah. It comes easy to me because I
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was like, I have this space to sit in the quiet,
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to know that I'm safe, to know that I can
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clean myself. There's running water, like all these things that...
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And where she would be like, God, this place is
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a shithole. You know what I mean?
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My kind of girl.
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So it's like interesting to me because also I... can
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say about all of my really close friends that I've
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been friends with a long time, that I'm still friends with,
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that I can see the growth and I hope that
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my friends can say the same thing about me. So
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that's to say that story about Tara, I'm sure that
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she can see things through a different lens now too.
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The whole point being, some people, it just comes natural.
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It's like some people are natural runners or they have
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the body to be a swimmer. Anyone can learn to swim,
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but it might not come as naturally naturally as it
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does for someone else. And so I think the story you,
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I'm sorry for being so long winded about this point,
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but with the story you shared, if you have a
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hard time feeling gratitude, the first place to look is
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where you feel the opposite. That guy's practice is so
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key because exactly anything that's going like not as planned,
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it's probably because something in your life is a blessing
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that you have and maybe is part of the plan. Yeah.
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And we take the little things for granted. Like I said,
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if we just stick with the car example, like... You
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take for granted having a car, but not everybody has one.
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They have to walk. They have to take the bus.
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They ride a bike, like things like that. They can't
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get around. They don't have a spare tire. Oh my gosh,
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replacing the tire is going to make them have to
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determine between replacing the tire or paying all of their rent.
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Right.
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So it's like, but it's so easy to get stuck
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in the like, woe is me and I can't believe
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this bad thing is happening. I've gotten a lot better
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about it in the years that I can definitely give
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myself credit for. Like I said, when I would always
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look at Dolly's interviews and stuff, I was like, she
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is just sunshine and rainbows all the time. And does
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she ever have a bad day? And I don't mean
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that in a mean way because you don't ever feel
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that way. feel that way about her. Like she's just
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one– I'm telling you. She's like Mother Teresa. Like she's
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like one of those people. I don't know. Maybe years,
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decades ago, maybe she had a period where people judged
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her for like the hair and the boobs and the makeup.
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I don't know. But I feel like in this day
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and age, she was just dolly. And everybody loved her.
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Did you ever see the interview? But she did have to...
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I don't know. She looked at it as having to overcome.
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What I love about her is it always... Anytime I
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saw her, obviously, I didn't know her personally, but it
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seemed like she was just very matter-of-fact, this is me. Not, oh,
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I have to prove myself. Exactly. But... But I saw
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an interview she did. I think it was with Barbara Walters.
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And Barbara was really pushing a lot about the boobs
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and the hair. And Dolly was like, I'm secure in
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who I am. And I know. And she was like,
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but don't you think people won't take you seriously or
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whatever or laughing? She said, I know people laugh. And
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at some point, Dolly said, I'm the one laughing. She
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was like, I'm the one who is really cashing the
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check is what she used those words. But she's saying like,
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it doesn't bother me.
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I think she also knew the difference between this is
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my image and I'm not fake.
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Right.
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Like you can have a persona. A lot of artists
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have a persona.
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Yeah.
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And then they have, and first, like a lot that
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carries into regular life too, but like it doesn't make
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them fake or different. Clearly, she's not ditzy. She was
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a phenomenal songwriter, a phenomenal singer, a phenomenal businesswoman. So yes,
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she was the one having really the last laugh. And
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I kind of think that was always her attitude was
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just like.
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I.
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Mean, she would say it costs a lot to look
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this cheap.
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Right.
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She knew what she was doing.
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She sure did. And she did it until the day
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she died.
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She sure did.
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And I love that about her. Yeah. She was buying
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the wigs. The heels she wore. I mean, just like
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her last appearance. She walking on stage in those heels.
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I'm like, she... That's just her.
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She did something, was it last year or two years ago,
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with the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders.
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Uh-huh.
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And was like out on stage. You won't catch me
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in a Dallas Cowboy uniform right now. I know. I'm like,
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oh my God, 10 years ago maybe. But like she's
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out there in her little Dallas Cowboys cheerleader uniform.
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Mm-hmm.
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What, 78 years old?
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Right.
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Get it, girl. Yep. And she had no problem wearing
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the outfit and the shirt and all the things because
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that's her. Right. And she's super comfortable with that.
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Yeah.
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And I think like you said, she wasn't here to
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prove how good she was or how smart she was
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or how talented she was. She just was like, you
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can find out on your own. I'm not going to
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defend it. I know who I am and you'll find out.
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You know, I also felt while we're talking about that,
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I never felt like she over sexualized her image, even
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though it was very sexy. I never felt like it
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felt like she was doing anything for attention or try
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to get a man's attention.
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Isn't that interesting though? I just, let's dig. Can we
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dig into that for a second? Because that's like, cause
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I agree with you. I don't think she was trying
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to do it. I think that was just what she
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liked for herself.
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Okay.
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I like for myself. how I dress. If I wear
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a crop top, it's because I'm feeling good that day
493
00:23:28.150 --> 00:23:30.450
and I feel like my abs are popping or whatever
494
00:23:30.549 --> 00:23:36.279
or like my little plunging neckline. This is more on camera.
495
00:23:36.299 --> 00:23:37.539
I'm not worried about whether or not a guy is
496
00:23:37.579 --> 00:23:40.460
watching this. I'll be careful and make sure my– I
497
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:41.180
don't give you too much.
498
00:23:42.259 --> 00:23:44.000
Not for a free show.
499
00:23:44.220 --> 00:23:49.529
Not for free. It's so interesting to me though because
500
00:23:50.150 --> 00:23:54.670
very few people– I'm going to use the word can
501
00:23:54.690 --> 00:24:01.000
get away with, super big fake boobs, teeny tiny waist,
502
00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:05.519
tight clothes, all the makeup, and not just– and be
503
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:06.660
adored and beloved.
504
00:24:06.700 --> 00:24:07.079
Right.
505
00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:12.680
Like I get attacked for having fake boobs. I get
506
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.319
attacked for, oh, my God, I can't believe you wore
507
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:17.519
that crop top. I can't believe you wore a sports
508
00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.420
bra around your son. And I'm not making it about
509
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:21.640
me because I'm sure it happens. I know it happens
510
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.410
to so many women. And you just have to go,
511
00:24:25.210 --> 00:24:30.660
what was it that she had that people weren't threatened
512
00:24:30.700 --> 00:24:30.980
by it?
513
00:24:31.460 --> 00:24:34.220
Well, you know, the other thing, maybe some people were.
514
00:24:34.779 --> 00:24:37.460
And it just took time and took her persistence. And
515
00:24:37.500 --> 00:24:41.680
it took, like, keeping on regardless of what people say.
516
00:24:41.700 --> 00:24:44.759
My dad told me, we were talking about Dolly. And
517
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.529
he said, because she got her start on the show.
518
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:48.970
What was it called? The Porter.
519
00:24:48.990 --> 00:24:51.470
It was called The Porter Wagoner Show.
520
00:24:51.549 --> 00:24:56.779
Yes. And... That a lot of, it was controversial because
521
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.839
a lot of wives didn't like.
522
00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:01.599
Their husbands watching the show. I know that.
523
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:04.299
But you know, the other thing is maybe we just
524
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.480
don't get it because we are not, well, I'm a man,
525
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:13.130
so I wouldn't, but I don't feel insecure about like,
526
00:25:13.930 --> 00:25:15.089
you know, guys.
527
00:25:15.150 --> 00:25:17.009
Relationships. Like if somebody's looking at Nell.
528
00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.579
Or if Nell's like scrolling Instagram and sees, like if
529
00:25:21.619 --> 00:25:24.779
someone hot is on TV, I'm not like, I don't
530
00:25:24.819 --> 00:25:27.099
like Nell watching that because then he might not like
531
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.339
me because I don't look like, none of that even
532
00:25:29.380 --> 00:25:31.500
comes to my mind a little bit. And I think
533
00:25:31.539 --> 00:25:35.039
it would be like, it's a normal thing. Like, you know,
534
00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.089
I just, maybe we don't get it because we don't
535
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:39.529
feel that insecurity.
536
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:40.670
Remove that we.
537
00:25:41.769 --> 00:25:42.089
Okay.
538
00:25:42.109 --> 00:25:43.910
Because I feel some of that insecurity, but I have
539
00:25:43.950 --> 00:25:49.019
a question. Have you been cheated on? Sorry if that's personal.
540
00:25:49.339 --> 00:25:54.160
No, that's okay. And I have speculation that I was,
541
00:25:54.339 --> 00:25:57.289
but I don't know for sure. Okay.
542
00:25:58.029 --> 00:25:58.690
Because I have.
543
00:25:59.769 --> 00:26:01.049
And did that really affect you?
544
00:26:01.089 --> 00:26:01.369
Yes.
545
00:26:01.890 --> 00:26:04.930
I feel like if I was cheated on, though, I
546
00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:08.650
don't know. But I almost feel like I would still
547
00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:11.470
be like, that's because that person is kind of fucked up.
548
00:26:11.589 --> 00:26:12.190
It does, but.
549
00:26:12.849 --> 00:26:14.359
It still gets you.
550
00:26:14.450 --> 00:26:17.859
And I've been cheated on many times by many different men.
551
00:26:19.329 --> 00:26:21.730
Which is really hard because I actually think I'm like
552
00:26:21.769 --> 00:26:25.769
a really good significant other, look out for their needs,
553
00:26:25.890 --> 00:26:28.990
try to be like not– you know, like– and not
554
00:26:29.009 --> 00:26:31.559
in some like forced way. But I think I'm a
555
00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:35.680
good partner in general. And so it can lead you
556
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:37.980
to feel– now, I'm not somebody where like I'm like,
557
00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:40.059
oh my god, I don't want my man looking at da-da-da.
558
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.339
But if you start to give me a reason to
559
00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:45.329
feel insecure, I'm going to be real– It's a different story.
560
00:26:45.349 --> 00:26:45.529
Yeah.
561
00:26:45.809 --> 00:26:48.569
And by the– that doesn't– like if you start– Not
562
00:26:48.609 --> 00:26:50.349
even saying like, oh, I've caught you cheating and now
563
00:26:50.369 --> 00:26:51.970
I'm taking you back or something like that because that
564
00:26:51.990 --> 00:26:55.380
doesn't– that's not how this plays out. But like I'm
565
00:26:55.410 --> 00:26:57.099
saying if all of a sudden I see you got
566
00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.700
a wandering eye, I feel like you're not being 100% honest,
567
00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:03.380
it's going to trigger something in me. So it's not
568
00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:06.420
my go-to state to be insecure or feel that way.
569
00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:10.039
But if– so anyways, I'm trying to give women– again,
570
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.319
I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt
571
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.579
because we put up with a lot of shit. And
572
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.859
so like on one hand, I get it. But also
573
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:20.730
you're watching a TV like the likelihood– Yeah. That speaks
574
00:27:20.809 --> 00:27:22.410
more to like, hey, maybe you need to go handle
575
00:27:22.450 --> 00:27:25.289
that relationship. And what those insecurities are, it's not about
576
00:27:25.309 --> 00:27:27.150
the woman. It's really about the person that you're with.
577
00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:31.460
Because there's something there that's making you feel like you
578
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:31.799
should be secure.
579
00:27:31.859 --> 00:27:32.259
It's a trust issue.
580
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:32.579
Really?
581
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:33.759
Yeah. Yes.
582
00:27:33.779 --> 00:27:36.900
I'm off on a tangent. What were we talking about?
583
00:27:37.019 --> 00:27:39.339
Well, speaking of, so her, when she was on the
584
00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:40.420
Porter Wagner show.
585
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:43.150
Did you know- Oh, women didn't like watching their husbands
586
00:27:43.190 --> 00:27:43.559
watching her.
587
00:27:43.569 --> 00:27:44.589
Yeah, feeling some type of way.
588
00:27:44.609 --> 00:27:44.750
Yeah.
589
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.880
Did you know, speaking of the Porter Wagner show, I
590
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.819
found this out today that she actually wrote I Will
591
00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:56.480
Always Love You about leaving him as a.
592
00:27:56.490 --> 00:27:57.529
It's on my notes.
593
00:27:57.750 --> 00:27:59.170
Uh-huh. I just found that out today.
594
00:27:59.190 --> 00:28:00.769
Did you know that? It's not a love song.
595
00:28:00.910 --> 00:28:01.450
No, it's not.
596
00:28:01.470 --> 00:28:03.809
It's about leaving the show and he didn't want her
597
00:28:03.829 --> 00:28:04.390
to leave.
598
00:28:04.809 --> 00:28:08.380
If you listen to the song, if it's a love song,
599
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:12.059
it's a love song about loving someone and leaving them. Yes.
600
00:28:12.750 --> 00:28:15.150
And just saying, I'll always love you. But if I stay,
601
00:28:15.190 --> 00:28:17.529
I'll be in the way. So I'm going to go.
602
00:28:17.549 --> 00:28:18.329
So I'll go.
603
00:28:18.369 --> 00:28:21.130
Yeah. Just know, I'll think of you every step of
604
00:28:21.150 --> 00:28:24.759
the way. Because he was largely responsible for helping her
605
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:29.299
career take off. And so they had been having fights
606
00:28:29.380 --> 00:28:30.960
about her leaving because she wanted to go do her
607
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.579
solo career. He didn't want her to. And instead of
608
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:35.519
continuing to fight, she put it in a song. And
609
00:28:35.539 --> 00:28:38.240
then she privately sang it for him. And he let
610
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:38.539
her go.
611
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.420
Yeah. It's crazy.
612
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:41.779
Imagine having that kind of talent.
613
00:28:42.470 --> 00:28:46.099
Well, I read this online. This isn't on my thing,
614
00:28:46.539 --> 00:28:50.200
but I would not venture to say I have the
615
00:28:50.220 --> 00:28:52.940
same kind of talent. Can you imagine? Nell's pissed at
616
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.420
me and I'm like, let me sing you a song, baby.
617
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:55.990
That'll make everything better.
618
00:28:56.009 --> 00:28:59.710
I got this.
619
00:29:01.589 --> 00:29:02.990
I'm going to start doing that every time we're in
620
00:29:03.009 --> 00:29:03.269
a fight.
621
00:29:03.289 --> 00:29:06.559
Dead, record it for me. Also, I'm pretty sure my
622
00:29:06.619 --> 00:29:09.380
shirt is like plastic on the inside. This is worse.
623
00:29:09.700 --> 00:29:12.869
I'm wearing a wool French beret.
624
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:14.089
Well, no one told you.
625
00:29:14.109 --> 00:29:17.089
That I bought in France. I said, let's bring the
626
00:29:17.109 --> 00:29:17.509
piece of Europe.
627
00:29:17.529 --> 00:29:20.990
It's a winter hat, silly boy. Well, I just thought... No, seriously.
628
00:29:22.410 --> 00:29:25.130
I thought it would look cute on the... But I
629
00:29:25.150 --> 00:29:27.859
can't take it off because also it somehow has shrank
630
00:29:27.900 --> 00:29:31.430
since I bought it. And my forehead's going to look crazy. Anyways, so...
631
00:29:31.970 --> 00:29:32.690
Back to Dolly.
632
00:29:32.730 --> 00:29:35.430
Dolly never cared about being comfortable. We know that.
633
00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:36.170
That's right.
634
00:29:36.289 --> 00:29:39.460
My back is obviously right now.
635
00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:43.630
What would dolly do oh my god did you see
636
00:29:43.650 --> 00:29:48.410
another little side you know the he it's this uh
637
00:29:48.589 --> 00:29:53.579
gay um Instagram creator I think he might be Puerto
638
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.859
Rican he dresses up as the devil sometimes but he
639
00:29:55.900 --> 00:29:58.329
dressed up as Jesus I love him yeah he pretended
640
00:29:58.349 --> 00:30:00.430
to be Jesus when Dolly got there yeah he was
641
00:30:00.450 --> 00:30:02.369
like just so you know up here we all wear
642
00:30:02.390 --> 00:30:04.730
braces say WWDD what would Dolly do.
643
00:30:04.589 --> 00:30:08.470
Yeah I love him he's so funny he is one
644
00:30:08.490 --> 00:30:09.809
of my favorites.
645
00:30:09.769 --> 00:30:11.849
Um but yeah what would Dolly do what would Dolly
646
00:30:11.869 --> 00:30:14.029
do she would not be complaining about being uncomfortable.
647
00:30:13.849 --> 00:30:15.470
So what would Dolly do she would try to stay
648
00:30:15.490 --> 00:30:16.970
calm and she would try to see the good that
649
00:30:16.990 --> 00:30:20.299
he's okay right now yeah what we're talking about he's gonna.
650
00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:23.069
Be fine So speaking of I will always love you.
651
00:30:23.569 --> 00:30:25.829
She wrote that for Porter. What's his face?
652
00:30:25.849 --> 00:30:26.250
Wagner.
653
00:30:27.849 --> 00:30:30.380
Dolly definitely took that. Big Dolly fans. Yeah.
654
00:30:30.900 --> 00:30:34.180
Well, I mean. We're a little young for that face.
655
00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:40.779
Exactly. I definitely knew her. Post. Post. Wagner. Porter. But
656
00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:44.269
so I knew this story, but I just think it's
657
00:30:44.309 --> 00:30:49.829
such a bad, badass move that we have to mention it. Elvis.
658
00:30:50.970 --> 00:30:53.769
wanted to record i will always love you after dolly
659
00:30:53.809 --> 00:30:56.150
released it and she was so excited she's gonna go
660
00:30:56.170 --> 00:31:01.160
to the studio elvis was like literally the number yeah
661
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.079
to have him do one of your songs she was
662
00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:04.920
so excited to hear him sing it and the day
663
00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:07.539
before elvis's manager reached out to her and was like
664
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.480
you know he doesn't we don't he doesn't record other
665
00:31:10.500 --> 00:31:13.960
people's songs unless he gets half of the publishing and
666
00:31:14.019 --> 00:31:17.289
she said no And that is such... I.
667
00:31:17.230 --> 00:31:19.289
Remember listening to her talk about that. It was very
668
00:31:19.349 --> 00:31:22.450
hard for her. She was devastated by it because she
669
00:31:22.490 --> 00:31:24.490
was going to meet him and he was going to
670
00:31:24.569 --> 00:31:27.930
sing her song. And she was like, that's a hard,
671
00:31:28.509 --> 00:31:31.970
that is a hard decision to make to know your worth.
672
00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:32.569
Yeah.
673
00:31:32.829 --> 00:31:34.630
But to feel it in your heart and your gut
674
00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:38.700
and be like, this is my song. And I'm happy
675
00:31:38.740 --> 00:31:40.660
for you to sing it and get what you deserve
676
00:31:40.700 --> 00:31:42.619
for that, but you don't get half the publishing record.
677
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:43.019
Right.
678
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.140
To take that stance and to take that, roll those dice.
679
00:31:46.420 --> 00:31:51.970
Well, like, you remember when I, like, you wrote those
680
00:31:52.029 --> 00:31:56.500
songs for Control Freak and the producers got half of
681
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:57.279
the publishing.
682
00:31:57.299 --> 00:31:57.599
Mm-hmm.
683
00:31:58.259 --> 00:32:04.359
I had those songs fully conceptualized, fully lyrics written, melody done,
684
00:32:04.660 --> 00:32:06.819
telling them how the tracks were done. They literally were
685
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:08.700
just doing the part I didn't know how to do.
686
00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:11.539
But they didn't create the song as far as I
687
00:32:11.579 --> 00:32:14.500
was concerned. But that's how the business is now. So
688
00:32:14.539 --> 00:32:18.880
I'm so proud of her in what was very much
689
00:32:18.900 --> 00:32:22.839
a man's industry to say no to the number one
690
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:23.539
guy and.
691
00:32:25.730 --> 00:32:28.109
Even though it was like a lot of people in
692
00:32:28.130 --> 00:32:31.019
that situation would have said, okay, like I can write
693
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.259
another song. This is an opportunity to have Elvis Presley
694
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.299
sing your song. And what's so interesting is a lot
695
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.480
of times we want the reward or the payoff or
696
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:44.839
the good karma to happen when we want it on
697
00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:47.539
our timeline. And she couldn't have known. And he wanted
698
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:52.509
it in 1974. She released it in 73. He wanted
699
00:32:52.549 --> 00:32:55.190
to record it in 74. She said no. And it
700
00:32:55.230 --> 00:32:58.190
wasn't until I think 90 or around there. When was
701
00:32:58.210 --> 00:32:58.769
the bodyguard?
702
00:32:58.829 --> 00:33:01.089
It was bodyguard. So it was, I was probably 90.
703
00:33:01.089 --> 00:33:04.400
I think it was around 90, maybe 92 or maybe that,
704
00:33:05.180 --> 00:33:08.640
that happened. And it would have, it, it ended up
705
00:33:08.700 --> 00:33:12.859
being bigger than like, there's no way that Elvis's version
706
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:17.369
would have done what Whitney's version did. And yeah, Even
707
00:33:17.410 --> 00:33:20.690
if she did that with Elvis, then when Whitney did that,
708
00:33:20.769 --> 00:33:23.089
she would have only gotten half of what she ended
709
00:33:23.130 --> 00:33:23.910
up getting.
710
00:33:23.950 --> 00:33:24.190
Right.
711
00:33:24.890 --> 00:33:29.079
So it's such a happy story of staying true to yourself,
712
00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:30.940
to thine own self be true. I heard her quote
713
00:33:30.980 --> 00:33:33.210
that the other day. She said when they were asking her,
714
00:33:34.339 --> 00:33:36.660
something I was watching, it was obviously an old recording,
715
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:38.640
but an interview about her beliefs. And she said, I
716
00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:41.259
just try to hold on to like, you know, God
717
00:33:41.299 --> 00:33:43.529
is in your heart. The kingdom of heaven is in
718
00:33:43.569 --> 00:33:47.029
your heart. To thine own self be true. And it's so...
719
00:33:47.670 --> 00:33:50.250
It's so cool to see how that ended up happening
720
00:33:50.430 --> 00:33:51.809
with I Will Always Love You. Yeah.
721
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.980
I have said that so many times because that is
722
00:33:55.019 --> 00:33:57.380
like they feel like a lesson I have learned in
723
00:33:57.420 --> 00:33:59.380
the years. And I talked about it in my book
724
00:34:01.619 --> 00:34:06.690
that you aren't always going to see the silver lining
725
00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:10.869
right away. So like there are redirects. Like when you
726
00:34:10.889 --> 00:34:12.929
get that feeling that that's not the right way, when
727
00:34:12.949 --> 00:34:14.710
you get the feeling that that's not the thing that
728
00:34:14.750 --> 00:34:18.139
you're supposed to do, a lot of times we go
729
00:34:18.179 --> 00:34:20.849
against our better judgment. Like we know it, we feel it.
730
00:34:20.940 --> 00:34:24.440
And then our brain takes in and we override that intuition.
731
00:34:25.460 --> 00:34:27.010
But if you could ride it out, I mean, I've
732
00:34:27.050 --> 00:34:28.750
talked about where it happened. Like when Bobby and I
733
00:34:28.789 --> 00:34:31.250
were trying to open the restaurant and everything kept going
734
00:34:31.309 --> 00:34:33.730
wrong and we opened it for what, like a week
735
00:34:33.769 --> 00:34:35.050
and a half, two weeks. And then I had to
736
00:34:35.070 --> 00:34:37.550
pull the plug on it because it just, everything had
737
00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:40.989
been going wrong. And then four months later, COVID happened.
738
00:34:41.050 --> 00:34:43.989
And I was like, Bobby, aren't you so glad we
739
00:34:44.030 --> 00:34:46.530
don't have a restaurant right now? We wouldn't have been
740
00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:48.769
able to keep it going at this rate. And I
741
00:34:48.809 --> 00:34:52.909
was the sole person funding that. It was only my cash.
742
00:34:53.409 --> 00:34:55.239
It was his time, but it was my cash. And
743
00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:57.860
I was like, it would have just been that many
744
00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:00.539
more months of cash loss. And I had already lost
745
00:35:00.579 --> 00:35:02.739
a massive amount of money on it because everything was taken.
746
00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:07.130
So that was one example. Or like, when biggest loser
747
00:35:07.150 --> 00:35:09.389
didn't work out for me, not once, but twice. And
748
00:35:09.409 --> 00:35:10.909
it was like, why does it like, why do I
749
00:35:10.949 --> 00:35:12.690
keep getting down to the final round and they don't
750
00:35:12.730 --> 00:35:15.550
pick me? But then Beachbody came along and Beachbody was
751
00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:20.599
so amazing. So it's like, there was just something happening recently.
752
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.280
You know it, I'm not going to say exactly what
753
00:35:22.300 --> 00:35:26.400
it was, but I had another fitness company reach out,
754
00:35:26.579 --> 00:35:29.019
want to do things with me. I was talking with
755
00:35:29.059 --> 00:35:32.300
them and honestly, like it's a great company. The thing
756
00:35:32.340 --> 00:35:34.389
that they do is great. What they wanted me to
757
00:35:34.449 --> 00:35:36.929
do was sort of right up my alley. And at
758
00:35:36.969 --> 00:35:41.170
the same time, every time I thought about it and
759
00:35:41.269 --> 00:35:42.889
how much work I already have on my plate with
760
00:35:42.909 --> 00:35:45.150
the beverage line and my own app and not wanting
761
00:35:45.190 --> 00:35:47.909
to take away from that, those two commitments, it was
762
00:35:47.929 --> 00:35:49.530
stressing me out. But I kept being like, am I
763
00:35:49.570 --> 00:35:52.039
really going to pass up this opportunity? And then you
764
00:35:52.099 --> 00:35:55.059
and I talked and it was a little of like,
765
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.980
remember who you are and what you've already done.
766
00:35:58.039 --> 00:35:58.260
Yeah.
767
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.909
And you're doing your app. So why wouldn't you put
768
00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:06.070
all that energy into your own app? And I was like,
769
00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:08.809
you're right. And I let them know very nicely. I
770
00:36:08.829 --> 00:36:12.690
appreciate the opportunity and can like keep the door open.
771
00:36:12.730 --> 00:36:15.150
But right now between the beverage line and what I'm doing,
772
00:36:15.170 --> 00:36:17.820
there's not enough time to do it well. Yeah. And
773
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.969
the relief I felt when I said it.
774
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:20.900
Yeah.
775
00:36:21.219 --> 00:36:24.900
Was huge. I was just like, but had I not
776
00:36:24.980 --> 00:36:26.500
said it, I feel like I would be in this
777
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.559
place right now of like, I can't believe what I
778
00:36:29.579 --> 00:36:30.199
just committed to.
779
00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:30.579
Right.
780
00:36:30.619 --> 00:36:32.079
I don't want to do it. It's not going to
781
00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:34.260
be fun. So. Yeah.
782
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.179
Yeah. To listen to your intuition.
783
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:37.920
You've got to listen to it.
784
00:36:37.929 --> 00:36:41.670
It's guiding you. It really is. Yeah. And it's so
785
00:36:41.750 --> 00:36:43.969
cool to be able to look back. Like you can
786
00:36:43.989 --> 00:36:46.369
look at times in your life. I can think of
787
00:36:46.429 --> 00:36:48.449
times in my life. We can look at times like
788
00:36:48.469 --> 00:36:52.090
the iconic Dolly. My friends and I made up a
789
00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:57.489
religion where we said like Dolly was like our leader. Yeah.
790
00:36:57.550 --> 00:36:59.030
And honestly, it still checks out.
791
00:36:59.190 --> 00:37:01.469
I was just going to say, you know, given some things.
792
00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:05.130
We might start some Sunday services. Sign me up. So
793
00:37:05.250 --> 00:37:09.789
it's just really cool to see how everything works out. Yes. Okay.
794
00:37:09.829 --> 00:37:11.969
Something else I loved about her. So Dolly was married
795
00:37:11.989 --> 00:37:16.610
for almost 60 years. And it is the one thing
796
00:37:16.670 --> 00:37:20.670
that she did not share publicly. Right. And she, I
797
00:37:20.710 --> 00:37:23.090
saw her say in an interview, like when you're sharing
798
00:37:23.130 --> 00:37:26.530
so much of yourself, keep one little thing that's just
799
00:37:26.809 --> 00:37:30.269
for you. I thought that was like so good because
800
00:37:31.409 --> 00:37:33.349
everybody is so quick to put all their business out
801
00:37:33.369 --> 00:37:34.210
there all the time.
802
00:37:34.469 --> 00:37:35.750
Especially now. Yeah.
803
00:37:36.389 --> 00:37:37.710
And nine times out of 10, I'm like, why are
804
00:37:37.750 --> 00:37:39.210
you doing it? You're trying to make somebody else jealous.
805
00:37:39.230 --> 00:37:41.130
You're trying to prove what you have. Not saying that's
806
00:37:41.170 --> 00:37:43.449
always the case because some people are just sharing their life.
807
00:37:43.869 --> 00:37:46.289
But like, I just thought that was unique for her
808
00:37:46.349 --> 00:37:49.320
to be like 60 years. This woman is all over
809
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.699
the public eye and he was okay. Not stepping into
810
00:37:53.739 --> 00:37:54.780
that spotlight with her.
811
00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:58.440
You know, well, she also said something very interesting in
812
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.480
an interview about her relationship because they were pressing and
813
00:38:01.699 --> 00:38:07.309
asked and she, She said, you know, if something did
814
00:38:07.369 --> 00:38:11.300
happen with someone else with him, I don't want to
815
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:17.900
know about it. And, you know, if something happened, if
816
00:38:18.099 --> 00:38:20.400
I had something happen with someone out on the road,
817
00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:23.539
I don't think he'd want to know about it. It
818
00:38:23.579 --> 00:38:27.380
was such an interesting way she talked about their relationship.
819
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:32.239
It was very progressive to say the least, very out
820
00:38:32.260 --> 00:38:34.780
of the norm to hear someone say. She said, I'd
821
00:38:34.820 --> 00:38:38.260
kill him if I knew. But it was almost like
822
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:41.139
what I felt like to me in that statement, what
823
00:38:41.179 --> 00:38:46.579
she was saying is nothing. I don't want anything to
824
00:38:47.179 --> 00:38:51.639
mess up who this person is to me. And obviously
825
00:38:51.699 --> 00:38:56.699
I'm paraphrasing how what she said landed to me. But
826
00:38:56.739 --> 00:39:00.409
I was like, she loved him so much that even
827
00:39:00.570 --> 00:39:05.030
if there was a moment, because she was being asked specifically, like,
828
00:39:05.050 --> 00:39:07.989
you're gone all the time. He's always at home, whatever.
829
00:39:08.010 --> 00:39:10.659
You know how interviewers are. They ask them worst case
830
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:13.179
scenario questions. And she said, if that did happen, I
831
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.320
wouldn't want to know about it. And I thought, damn.
832
00:39:17.429 --> 00:39:19.780
That means you really want your relationship.
833
00:39:19.940 --> 00:39:22.199
What you don't know doesn't hurt you. And if you're
834
00:39:22.219 --> 00:39:23.900
in love with the person and you think the best
835
00:39:23.940 --> 00:39:26.139
of the person and you want to be with the person,
836
00:39:26.510 --> 00:39:28.469
you also know people can be human. And so sometimes
837
00:39:28.489 --> 00:39:30.340
they might... hook up.
838
00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:30.940
Right.
839
00:39:31.380 --> 00:39:34.820
Not an excuse, but like, if you don't know, you
840
00:39:34.860 --> 00:39:36.710
don't have to address it. And it doesn't chip away
841
00:39:36.809 --> 00:39:39.349
at the, what you've, what you have.
842
00:39:39.860 --> 00:39:42.250
And I just felt that they didn't, she at least
843
00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:44.670
didn't express a lot of jealousy. And when she talked
844
00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:47.269
about the relationship, cause she said, you know, like we're
845
00:39:47.289 --> 00:39:49.090
in showbiz. She said, I might flirt a little, or
846
00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:51.289
he might flirt a little. I don't think he's taken
847
00:39:51.349 --> 00:39:54.280
anyone to the bed, but that's how she talked about it.
848
00:39:54.550 --> 00:39:57.119
She was like, you know, and I was like, wow,
849
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.000
get it with yourself. You are sure of yourself. She
850
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.460
was like, I'm this, I'm me. This is the life
851
00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:05.219
I want. These are the people I want in it.
852
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.059
These are the things I want to do. It was
853
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.920
just so interesting to, Also interesting, not that it is
854
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.349
related at all, but they just died. He died in 2025.
855
00:40:15.340 --> 00:40:19.789
She died in 2026. Yeah. So it is funny how
856
00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:23.190
that happens sometimes. Someone who is your life partner for
857
00:40:23.210 --> 00:40:26.650
so long, you sort of, your exits are, can sometimes
858
00:40:26.690 --> 00:40:27.889
be close together. Yeah.
859
00:40:27.969 --> 00:40:31.699
Cause she was 80 and you know, you've seen like
860
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.400
she had stuff planned. Like she was supposed to be
861
00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:34.360
touring and stuff and she would.
862
00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:36.420
She had a Vegas residency that she had to end
863
00:40:36.460 --> 00:40:37.380
up canceling because of health.
864
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.150
But she was, Same thing with her bright light that
865
00:40:40.170 --> 00:40:42.030
we keep talking about. You know, she would do her
866
00:40:42.050 --> 00:40:44.380
little Instagram things and she would be like, well, you know,
867
00:40:44.409 --> 00:40:46.639
there's just some things going on with my health that
868
00:40:46.699 --> 00:40:48.380
I didn't really take care of when I should have.
869
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.179
So I'm going to be all right. But like, I
870
00:40:50.219 --> 00:40:53.079
got to take care of some things. Uh-huh.
871
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:54.880
My body's responding to the treatment.
872
00:40:54.940 --> 00:40:57.599
Yeah, I'm wondering if she had maybe cancer or something.
873
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:00.900
Someone said, they didn't say what kind, but a brief
874
00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:06.400
like bout of cancer or something like that. So I
875
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.570
don't know. What I am glad, it doesn't appear that
876
00:41:09.590 --> 00:41:11.500
she suffered for a long time because she was doing
877
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.880
like her appearance before she passed was not even a
878
00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:17.269
month prior. Right. Her last appearance. Yeah.
879
00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:20.199
So that's good. What else do you have on your cards?
880
00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:23.480
Well, the other cool thing, just to wrap up the
881
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.500
subject of I Will Always Love You, is she invested,
882
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.500
and she actually did this with a lot of things,
883
00:41:28.780 --> 00:41:31.139
but she invested the money she made, which in the
884
00:41:31.539 --> 00:41:34.900
90s alone, she made over $ 10 million from the royalties
885
00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:38.110
of Whitney's version of I Will Always Love You. And
886
00:41:38.269 --> 00:41:43.309
she bought an office building in a predominantly black neighborhood
887
00:41:43.610 --> 00:41:47.849
in Nashville. because she wanted to invest back in the
888
00:41:47.869 --> 00:41:51.349
community that essentially brought her that money. And she said,
889
00:41:51.869 --> 00:41:55.230
she referred to that complex as the house that Whitney built.
890
00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:58.860
And she said it was, in the interview, for me
891
00:41:58.889 --> 00:42:00.440
to say it, it almost is like it could be
892
00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:03.480
taken out of context. But she said, and I loved
893
00:42:03.539 --> 00:42:06.079
being there and it was in the black community and
894
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.500
with Whitney's people and they're my people too. And she
895
00:42:11.699 --> 00:42:15.119
made a big investment into that community. And I just
896
00:42:15.139 --> 00:42:19.409
think that is so cool that she... Some people, it
897
00:42:19.429 --> 00:42:22.389
wouldn't even occur to them to do that. And she
898
00:42:22.469 --> 00:42:26.789
had the kind of conviction to acknowledge that it was
899
00:42:26.829 --> 00:42:30.429
a Black woman from a totally different type of genre,
900
00:42:30.730 --> 00:42:33.750
different type of background, who made her song something that
901
00:42:33.789 --> 00:42:37.150
potentially she never could have made it. And for her
902
00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:39.940
to think to do that is something that a lot
903
00:42:39.980 --> 00:42:42.380
of people wouldn't even think about doing. I think it's awesome.
904
00:42:42.579 --> 00:42:44.340
Well, one of her things was be generous when you
905
00:42:44.380 --> 00:42:47.079
have enough. So I have one of her things, like
906
00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:49.219
it's one of her quotes and she said, don't be
907
00:42:49.260 --> 00:42:53.300
embarrassed by ambition. Love that. Laugh at yourself, own your work,
908
00:42:53.539 --> 00:42:57.619
be generous when you have enough. Don't confuse sophistication with superiority.
909
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.440
And then there was, I ran out of room writing
910
00:43:00.460 --> 00:43:02.590
on my card, but it was something about like, don't
911
00:43:02.699 --> 00:43:05.750
file off pieces of yourself for other people.
912
00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:07.010
That's amazing.
913
00:43:07.030 --> 00:43:10.360
And I was like, that's such a good, like, put
914
00:43:10.380 --> 00:43:12.360
it all together. But she was very big about like
915
00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:16.659
philanthropy pouring back into the community, just like Dollywood, you know, like.
916
00:43:17.179 --> 00:43:20.889
Didn't occur to me that Dollywood is actually, so it was,
917
00:43:20.989 --> 00:43:23.230
there was some kind of amusement park there and then
918
00:43:23.250 --> 00:43:26.070
she partnered with them, but it was her investing in
919
00:43:26.110 --> 00:43:29.210
the community she came from. Right. That's so cool.
920
00:43:29.309 --> 00:43:32.730
Yeah, to bring more people to it, more jobs, like, yeah,
921
00:43:32.750 --> 00:43:34.989
you got to think about how many I heard her
922
00:43:35.010 --> 00:43:36.630
talk about that. I think it was on Chloe's interview
923
00:43:36.670 --> 00:43:39.269
about like just the fact that she gets to employ
924
00:43:39.309 --> 00:43:42.289
people from her community and they have somewhere to go
925
00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:45.269
and things that they wouldn't be able to, like jobs
926
00:43:45.309 --> 00:43:48.190
that they wouldn't have had access to if it wasn't there.
927
00:43:48.449 --> 00:43:50.769
She had, I forget the details about this now. When
928
00:43:50.789 --> 00:43:52.909
are we going to Dollywood, by the way? Exactly. She
929
00:43:53.010 --> 00:43:59.489
had a really good like program for continuing education for
930
00:43:59.530 --> 00:44:01.829
her Dollywood employees too. Oh, really? So I thought that
931
00:44:01.869 --> 00:44:05.900
was really, yeah. I thought that was really cool. Also,
932
00:44:06.340 --> 00:44:07.920
her imagination library.
933
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.199
What was it called? Yeah, that's what it was called.
934
00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:14.280
I didn't know that the reason she started that is
935
00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:18.309
because her dad couldn't read or write. Oh, really?
936
00:44:18.349 --> 00:44:18.969
I didn't know that either.
937
00:44:18.989 --> 00:44:21.750
And she, yeah, his name was Robert Lee Parton.
938
00:44:22.250 --> 00:44:24.309
You did your research better than I did.
939
00:44:24.369 --> 00:44:27.929
And he couldn't read or write, but she always referred
940
00:44:27.949 --> 00:44:31.650
to him as one of the smartest men she'd ever met,
941
00:44:31.909 --> 00:44:34.510
even though he was illiterate. Or she'd ever known, I
942
00:44:34.550 --> 00:44:36.929
should say, even though he was illiterate. She loved her dad.
943
00:44:37.309 --> 00:44:40.929
And so she started that. And it started just for
944
00:44:42.019 --> 00:44:46.639
people in her county. Okay. And where she would send
945
00:44:46.699 --> 00:44:52.360
like one book every month to these people. But now, today,
946
00:44:52.409 --> 00:44:55.730
like at her passing, it's obviously expanded. And she sent over,
947
00:44:56.309 --> 00:44:58.570
that organization that she started sent over 300 million books.
948
00:45:00.590 --> 00:45:02.170
That is amazing work.
949
00:45:02.190 --> 00:45:04.909
Impressive. Like what? Like that's.
950
00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:09.050
If you think about like, that's just, it's remarkable to
951
00:45:09.090 --> 00:45:13.530
people who, you know, are, I don't, it's just, there's
952
00:45:13.550 --> 00:45:14.710
something really cool about that.
953
00:45:14.889 --> 00:45:16.650
Well, and that just goes to show too, like when
954
00:45:16.710 --> 00:45:18.489
she says like, you don't have to try to prove
955
00:45:18.530 --> 00:45:20.239
who you are, just be who you are and they'll
956
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.139
find out. Like she just was, again, she's not going
957
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.320
to change the rhinestones and the hair and the makeup
958
00:45:25.340 --> 00:45:28.719
and the nails, but she's, showing up every day and
959
00:45:28.739 --> 00:45:30.730
just being a good person and trying to find the
960
00:45:30.769 --> 00:45:32.329
good in other people and trying to give back a
961
00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:36.309
little bit to the world and doing something she absolutely loves.
962
00:45:37.829 --> 00:45:40.349
You know, I also, I saw an interview. I also
963
00:45:40.409 --> 00:45:44.130
really connected with this interview because I recently in my
964
00:45:44.170 --> 00:45:47.510
life over the last couple of years have accepted that
965
00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:51.250
I might not have kids. It's like I never had
966
00:45:51.269 --> 00:45:53.510
a plan to have kids, but having kids is something
967
00:45:53.530 --> 00:45:55.570
that you always were going to do later in life.
968
00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:58.960
And I'm like, you know, that's not really the, I'm
969
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.090
not going to accidentally get Nell pregnant. If you do,
970
00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:04.349
we got to talk about some other things. So.
971
00:46:04.369 --> 00:46:05.409
Macular conception.
972
00:46:05.489 --> 00:46:07.409
She was asked about it because she didn't have any kids.
973
00:46:07.469 --> 00:46:09.070
And she said, you know, she thought she had kids,
974
00:46:09.110 --> 00:46:10.880
but then she was on the road. Then she got, okay.
975
00:46:11.460 --> 00:46:14.750
Just so you know, I dribbled down my mouth and
976
00:46:14.789 --> 00:46:15.510
down my chest.
977
00:46:15.750 --> 00:46:16.710
Does it cool you off at least?
978
00:46:16.730 --> 00:46:18.789
It actually kind of did feel really good.
979
00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:22.010
Every time you take a drink.
980
00:46:22.289 --> 00:46:22.449
Okay.
981
00:46:23.539 --> 00:46:23.760
Yes.
982
00:46:23.820 --> 00:46:24.820
No, she didn't have kids.
983
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.059
She tried. And she said in this interview, I'm paraphrasing now,
984
00:46:29.539 --> 00:46:33.750
but I watched her say it, that, so everyone else's
985
00:46:33.789 --> 00:46:34.530
kids were her kids.
986
00:46:34.570 --> 00:46:35.889
Yeah. She said, I'm everybody's mother.
987
00:46:36.030 --> 00:46:40.630
Yeah. And it's so awesome to think. And I've actually
988
00:46:40.670 --> 00:46:44.289
said that I was like, I said, um, I was
989
00:46:44.329 --> 00:46:47.670
talking to some friends of Nell's and mine and they're like,
990
00:46:47.690 --> 00:46:51.309
but you guys would be such good dads. Um, and
991
00:46:51.349 --> 00:46:53.349
I was like, the thing is, I feel like if
992
00:46:53.389 --> 00:46:55.010
I don't have my own kids, I just get to
993
00:46:55.050 --> 00:46:59.679
help support And care for and love everybody else's families
994
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:00.090
and kids.
995
00:47:00.300 --> 00:47:00.440
Yeah.
996
00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:02.820
Like I get to be the guy who helps out,
997
00:47:02.860 --> 00:47:05.420
who has the availability because I don't have. And so
998
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.739
I really connected with her saying that because that is
999
00:47:07.900 --> 00:47:12.800
instead of feeling like potentially something was lost, you can
1000
00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:16.469
see where something actually there's opportunity that might not have
1001
00:47:16.510 --> 00:47:21.309
been there. Right. So I really just fucking loved her. WWDD.
1002
00:47:21.369 --> 00:47:24.130
What would Dolly do? Okay. Do you have anything else
1003
00:47:24.190 --> 00:47:27.360
on your cards? Hmm. Well, here, let me ask you
1004
00:47:27.380 --> 00:47:30.110
this because these are on mine. So Dolly had, we
1005
00:47:30.130 --> 00:47:34.130
said it, she had a lot of amazing quotes. Do
1006
00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:37.489
you have favorite Dolly quotes? One or multiple?
1007
00:47:38.250 --> 00:47:39.489
I don't think I'd say I have a favorite. I
1008
00:47:39.489 --> 00:47:41.139
have a couple Dolly quotes that pop in my head
1009
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.460
though when you say that. Okay. Like she, I heard
1010
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.280
her say in a few interviews, you can ask or
1011
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.139
you can say it, but I'll tell you where to
1012
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:52.630
put it if I don't like where you got it.
1013
00:47:52.889 --> 00:47:55.409
Get it, girl. I love this. Loved that.
1014
00:47:55.469 --> 00:47:56.369
Yes.
1015
00:47:56.570 --> 00:48:00.210
She also said, I'll turn you. Oh, and I think
1016
00:48:00.230 --> 00:48:01.869
she put in a song, a rooster to a hen
1017
00:48:02.989 --> 00:48:06.369
with one shot. She's just country. So I love that.
1018
00:48:09.050 --> 00:48:11.050
Well, you know, I think one of the ones I
1019
00:48:11.090 --> 00:48:12.849
love the most is find out who you are and
1020
00:48:12.869 --> 00:48:15.760
do it on purpose. Yeah. Because so many people just
1021
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.039
walk around this planet just trying to figure out who
1022
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.050
they are. They don't really know. And they're not Maybe
1023
00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:24.659
they're not even really trying to figure it out.
1024
00:48:24.670 --> 00:48:27.409
That's the thing. We have an identity crisis. People don't even...
1025
00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:30.019
People can... So many people, I think, live their whole
1026
00:48:30.059 --> 00:48:33.079
life and never stop and think, who am I actually?
1027
00:48:33.099 --> 00:48:34.880
Yeah. And who do I want to be?
1028
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:35.239
Yeah.
1029
00:48:35.340 --> 00:48:36.880
I mean, we kind of talked about that in our
1030
00:48:36.980 --> 00:48:41.000
episode that aired this past week when you were having
1031
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:41.960
your midlife crisis.
1032
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:42.579
Yeah.
1033
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.659
But I think that's a little bit as like we're
1034
00:48:45.699 --> 00:48:48.550
coming into... You know, your identity shifts over time. It
1035
00:48:48.570 --> 00:48:50.449
doesn't always just, this is who I am and it
1036
00:48:50.469 --> 00:48:51.190
stays this way.
1037
00:48:51.250 --> 00:48:51.389
Like.
1038
00:48:52.250 --> 00:48:55.590
your, your compass can stay the same, but things shift.
1039
00:48:55.630 --> 00:48:55.889
Yeah.
1040
00:48:56.110 --> 00:48:57.929
So I think that's a big one that I love.
1041
00:48:57.969 --> 00:48:59.909
Just find out who you are and do it on purpose. Um,
1042
00:49:00.989 --> 00:49:03.000
you can't direct the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
1043
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.900
Love that one. These are those little things you're like, wow,
1044
00:49:06.980 --> 00:49:07.719
how does your brain work?
1045
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.219
It's so simple and so profound at the same time.
1046
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.010
Like, yeah, you can't always adjust when those winds are
1047
00:49:13.030 --> 00:49:14.489
going to blow or how they're going to blow, but
1048
00:49:14.530 --> 00:49:18.550
you adjust your sails when they do like you course, correct.
1049
00:49:18.650 --> 00:49:22.090
You keep, going. You don't just take the sail down
1050
00:49:22.130 --> 00:49:23.590
and be like, well, wherever the wind blows me.
1051
00:49:24.010 --> 00:49:24.590
Yeah.
1052
00:49:24.610 --> 00:49:26.920
If it's knocking me down, I guess I'm down.
1053
00:49:27.179 --> 00:49:27.460
Right.
1054
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:29.920
And then one other one I wrote down is if
1055
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:31.679
you want the rainbow, you got to put up with
1056
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:33.940
the rain. She said, the way I see it is
1057
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:35.139
if you want the rainbow, you got to put up
1058
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.300
with the rain. And I'm like, yes, we all, like,
1059
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:40.820
we have to stop thinking that it's supposed to be
1060
00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:43.650
all good and that there's not supposed to be anything
1061
00:49:43.750 --> 00:49:47.889
hard or challenging to get the good. We've gotten so,
1062
00:49:49.570 --> 00:49:52.530
we want everything to be comfortable to have the comfort.
1063
00:49:52.590 --> 00:49:56.420
And it's like, we forgot you have to earn it. Yeah.
1064
00:49:56.980 --> 00:49:59.440
It doesn't just get handed to you. I mean, for-
1065
00:50:00.619 --> 00:50:02.409
few select it.
1066
00:50:02.389 --> 00:50:05.409
Seems but the truth is everyone has their reign everybody
1067
00:50:05.429 --> 00:50:09.809
has we act like some people never get caught in
1068
00:50:09.869 --> 00:50:13.530
it and the truth is everybody does yes and so
1069
00:50:13.570 --> 00:50:16.690
when it's happening to you look at the rain like
1070
00:50:17.170 --> 00:50:18.610
the rainbow after.
1071
00:50:18.190 --> 00:50:20.949
The rain yeah and sometimes you gotta make it right
1072
00:50:20.969 --> 00:50:22.650
like sometimes you have to make the rainbow you have
1073
00:50:22.690 --> 00:50:26.260
to say okay this is what's happening so this is
1074
00:50:26.300 --> 00:50:28.400
how I have to adjust my sale. Let me just
1075
00:50:28.500 --> 00:50:29.360
cross two metaphors.
1076
00:50:29.380 --> 00:50:30.000
Oh, that's right.
1077
00:50:30.099 --> 00:50:32.239
But yeah, those were some of my favorites from her.
1078
00:50:33.059 --> 00:50:35.820
I also love, it costs a lot of money to
1079
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:36.590
look this cheap.
1080
00:50:36.650 --> 00:50:37.909
Yep, I bought my other card.
1081
00:50:38.010 --> 00:50:40.630
And she said, I heard her say one time, I
1082
00:50:40.710 --> 00:50:43.369
always say, God didn't make plastic surgeons so they could starve.
1083
00:50:44.889 --> 00:50:49.789
I was like, amen, sister. Yes, see? Also, another thing
1084
00:50:49.809 --> 00:50:51.849
that we didn't mention that I think is worth mentioning,
1085
00:50:52.230 --> 00:50:54.510
she wrote, I will always love you and Jolene in
1086
00:50:54.570 --> 00:50:58.320
the same day. Like, genius.
1087
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:00.539
Sometimes it's just a little unfair.
1088
00:51:01.179 --> 00:51:01.800
Come on, guys.
1089
00:51:01.820 --> 00:51:05.309
Spread it around. She's got to be that talented and
1090
00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:07.550
smart and fun and funny.
1091
00:51:08.349 --> 00:51:09.590
Funny as hell.
1092
00:51:09.610 --> 00:51:10.210
It's so funny.
1093
00:51:10.230 --> 00:51:13.190
Like, when people would ask her questions from the audience,
1094
00:51:13.369 --> 00:51:15.489
you know her responses are quick fire. Like, this guy
1095
00:51:15.530 --> 00:51:18.380
was balding and he was like... Because she has wigs. Like,
1096
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.119
do you think I should get a toupee or da-da-da?
1097
00:51:21.139 --> 00:51:22.739
Or what do you think? She said, I think you
1098
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.719
should stay the way you are because just because you
1099
00:51:24.739 --> 00:51:26.780
lost your fuzz don't mean you aren't a peach. You
1100
00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:29.840
know what I mean? Like, she's got the best things
1101
00:51:29.909 --> 00:51:30.489
to say.
1102
00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:34.489
That's brilliant. Just because you lost your fuzz doesn't mean
1103
00:51:34.510 --> 00:51:37.530
you're not still a peach. I would never come up
1104
00:51:37.570 --> 00:51:37.889
with that.
1105
00:51:38.170 --> 00:51:41.150
Someone was like, are they real? Like, that was their question.
1106
00:51:41.610 --> 00:51:44.210
And her response was, Lord, no. You think I could
1107
00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:46.840
grow my real nails this long? Like she always just
1108
00:51:46.909 --> 00:51:52.260
had such a funny pun to take. I want to
1109
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:56.900
do the, have you seen on Instagram how people are
1110
00:51:56.940 --> 00:52:00.199
doing her recipe from Steel Magnolias? Where the girl's like, cup,
1111
00:52:00.219 --> 00:52:02.039
a cup, a cup. She's like, that's easy. You don't
1112
00:52:02.059 --> 00:52:04.460
need to write that down. It's a cup of flour,
1113
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.840
a cup of sugar, a cup of fruit cocktail with
1114
00:52:06.860 --> 00:52:10.530
the juice and just mix and bake it 350 until
1115
00:52:10.610 --> 00:52:15.449
golden bubbly. And everyone on Instagram is making this dish. Oh, really?
1116
00:52:15.989 --> 00:52:18.650
I love steel magnolia, but I don't remember that part.
1117
00:52:18.730 --> 00:52:21.820
Oh, yeah. It's when they're in the... Claire E is
1118
00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:25.380
the one who bought the white-haired woman who had money
1119
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.420
and she bought the radio station. She's the one that's like,
1120
00:52:27.460 --> 00:52:32.079
what's that recipe? Cuppa, cuppa, cuppa. So anyway... We should
1121
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:33.420
make it. We can't possibly eat it.
1122
00:52:33.460 --> 00:52:35.960
What is it that we're making? Is it like pie filling?
1123
00:52:35.980 --> 00:52:36.719
It looks like a little fruit.
1124
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.780
It looks like a– well, you mix it all together,
1125
00:52:39.860 --> 00:52:40.909
so I don't really know.
1126
00:52:40.929 --> 00:52:43.590
Flour, sugar, and fruit, and juice.
1127
00:52:43.610 --> 00:52:45.289
Cocktail with the juice. Yeah.
1128
00:52:45.369 --> 00:52:47.190
And then you bake. Uh-huh.
1129
00:52:48.210 --> 00:52:51.139
And then she says, sounds awfully rich. And she says,
1130
00:52:51.429 --> 00:52:54.320
it is. So I serve mine over ice cream to
1131
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:57.590
cut the sweetness. Oh. And so everyone on Instagram is
1132
00:52:57.610 --> 00:52:58.469
doing it. I'll show you.
1133
00:52:58.489 --> 00:52:59.650
Well, I know what we're doing.
1134
00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:01.579
Exactly. Couple, couple, couple.
1135
00:53:01.619 --> 00:53:02.460
Couple, couple, couple.
1136
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.599
Anyways, it feels good in the heaviness of everything. And
1137
00:53:07.619 --> 00:53:12.599
the other thing I felt about Dolly is she... Like
1138
00:53:12.619 --> 00:53:15.440
when pushed about politics, she never really went there. But
1139
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:18.800
people also knew where she stood on things because she
1140
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:23.219
was huge for social justice. She always uplifted the LGBTQ community.
1141
00:53:23.260 --> 00:53:24.329
That means a lot to me.
1142
00:53:24.469 --> 00:53:24.769
Yeah.
1143
00:53:24.909 --> 00:53:29.190
For a time when she was asked in interviews, like
1144
00:53:31.349 --> 00:53:33.989
if someone said, if you were born a man or whatever,
1145
00:53:34.030 --> 00:53:35.969
she said, honey, Lord, no, I've always been a sissy.
1146
00:53:35.989 --> 00:53:37.170
And if I was born a man, I'd been a
1147
00:53:37.190 --> 00:53:40.219
drag queen. Oh, do you know what I read? That
1148
00:53:40.420 --> 00:53:44.079
she entered a Dolly Parton lookalike contest and lost.
1149
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:44.949
Stop it.
1150
00:53:47.099 --> 00:53:50.739
So that's funny. And it was a mostly drag contest. Obviously.
1151
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.079
But chat says that that actually happened, that she lost.
1152
00:53:54.099 --> 00:53:56.059
That is so funny. Could you imagine being like, so
1153
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:57.000
you know I am Dolly, right?
1154
00:53:57.019 --> 00:53:59.159
Like it's actually me. It's crazy.
1155
00:53:59.300 --> 00:54:01.159
You're like, who looks more like me than me? Apparently
1156
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.780
this drag queen. Did you see, I forget which newspaper
1157
00:54:03.820 --> 00:54:06.860
did it, but they accidentally used a photo of like
1158
00:54:06.909 --> 00:54:09.659
a drag queen Dolly for the obituary.
1159
00:54:10.590 --> 00:54:14.030
Oh yes and they're like we apologize well honestly i
1160
00:54:14.050 --> 00:54:15.449
don't think she'd be offended.
1161
00:54:15.050 --> 00:54:16.909
No she would probably be like.
1162
00:54:16.610 --> 00:54:18.570
That's fine you know.
1163
00:54:18.130 --> 00:54:19.769
Like good for them they're doing it.
1164
00:54:20.050 --> 00:54:22.800
But i just feel like the thing that i want
1165
00:54:22.940 --> 00:54:25.820
to when i think about her i really want to
1166
00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:28.239
hold is she always found a way to see the
1167
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.840
positive like we said in the very beginning through the
1168
00:54:30.900 --> 00:54:34.059
politics and through all the things and she said of
1169
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.639
course i have my opinion about things but her intention
1170
00:54:36.659 --> 00:54:38.199
was just to make the world a better place and
1171
00:54:38.219 --> 00:54:41.050
i really think that she did I agree. So now
1172
00:54:41.070 --> 00:54:42.900
it's our turn. All right.
1173
00:54:42.940 --> 00:54:46.760
What would Dolly do? Favorite Dolly song?
1174
00:54:50.539 --> 00:54:53.010
Well, I don't know if I could pick. The thing is,
1175
00:54:53.030 --> 00:54:56.510
the whole way here, 9 to 5, was in my head.
1176
00:54:56.570 --> 00:54:58.949
I played 9 to 5. I was singing 9 to 5.
1177
00:54:58.949 --> 00:55:00.789
I was listening to podcasts and stuff, and I was
1178
00:55:00.809 --> 00:55:02.389
still like, Dumb a lot of bed.
1179
00:55:02.489 --> 00:55:05.900
Dom and I were singing it last night together.
1180
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:07.920
It's such a... Catchy.
1181
00:55:07.980 --> 00:55:10.059
I was going to say, it's probably cliche, but 9
1182
00:55:10.059 --> 00:55:13.119
to 5. And Jolene is great. And obviously, I will
1183
00:55:13.139 --> 00:55:19.000
always love you, Whitney Houston. But I just love the
1184
00:55:19.099 --> 00:55:23.199
message of 9 to 5, too. Yeah. Like, get me
1185
00:55:23.260 --> 00:55:26.440
on a wrong day about work. I'm putting that on.
1186
00:55:26.500 --> 00:55:29.980
I'm singing all the words. Yes. Yes. I think it
1187
00:55:30.019 --> 00:55:31.000
might be 9 to 5.
1188
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:31.260
Yeah.
1189
00:55:31.619 --> 00:55:33.920
I haven't listened to the Code of Many Colors in
1190
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.260
a while. And I want to listen to it again because...
1191
00:55:36.630 --> 00:55:39.349
That's a very interesting one about her childhood. Yeah. But
1192
00:55:39.389 --> 00:55:40.690
she's such an iconic songwriter.
1193
00:55:40.710 --> 00:55:41.909
We'll listen to it on the way to dinner.
1194
00:55:42.130 --> 00:55:43.639
Yes. Okay.
1195
00:55:44.260 --> 00:55:47.900
Well, Dolly, we miss you. We love you. And we
1196
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.619
will forever say, what would Dolly do?
1197
00:55:50.699 --> 00:55:51.119
That's right.
1198
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:53.139
That's going to be our new motto.
1199
00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:54.860
That's right. What would Dolly do?
1200
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:55.860
Which is not very new.
1201
00:55:56.260 --> 00:55:57.610
It's a safe question to ask.
1202
00:55:57.710 --> 00:55:59.789
It is. It's a reliable answer.
1203
00:55:59.809 --> 00:56:00.769
Yeah.
1204
00:56:00.969 --> 00:56:03.230
If you do what she would do, you're probably going
1205
00:56:03.250 --> 00:56:04.210
to end up on the right side.
1206
00:56:04.489 --> 00:56:09.050
Exactly. Anyways. Well, guys, thanks for tuning in. And we
1207
00:56:09.070 --> 00:56:11.030
hope you love Dolly as much as us. If you didn't,
1208
00:56:11.070 --> 00:56:13.300
I'm surprised you're still listening. But we're glad you're here.
1209
00:56:14.579 --> 00:56:17.460
And if you want to... send it we will be
1210
00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:19.519
doing phone a friend still we've just had a lot
1211
00:56:19.539 --> 00:56:21.079
to catch up on so much is happening in the
1212
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.460
world but send us your phone a friend if you
1213
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:25.900
have any questions anything happening in your life that you
1214
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.559
want us to dive into and talk about we'd love
1215
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.980
to do that and you can email us those at
1216
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:35.619
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1217
00:56:34.860 --> 00:56:37.880
Find us on social because D is posting again everything's
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1219
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.610
On Instagram that's right we'll see.
1220
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You guys next week bye bye when I
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We'll be right back.