Web 3.0

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Welcome to another podcast.
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I've got Erin BJ and Blake.
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And today we're going to talk about web 3.0.
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Erin, did you have a question that you wanted us to kick off with?
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The reason I wanted to discuss this topic is because I had so many questions, but I'm not even really sure where to start.
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Today BJ was talking about.
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How.
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Web 3.0.
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Sia uses blockchain to de-centralize where your data is stored in that.
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decentralizes the IP addresses.
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Is that right, bJ?
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It decentralizes the actual data that's being stored.
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Obviously the Bitcoin blockchain was the one That we learned at first, and that was the case.
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Then some of the smaller projects emerged and Sia was one of those and it's a blockchain that's for decentralized storage.
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So basically it's a large global network of people that are hosts that use their extra processing power on their personal computers to store data for other people and they pay in Sia coin.
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The way it works is the data is basically Put in through sky net, which is the internet protocol that sits on top of the Sia framework.
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Then once the data's there it's spread across all the hosts.
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Then, it's seeded everywhere so that there was no single point of failure.
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For things like ransomware, which are very real problems in the world is definitely an emerging technology that helps to address that problem due to there being no single point of failure.
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That makes sense.
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Yeah, so, I guess just to further explain that, remember I was saying I think on the last one we did about how, when you decentralize you store the data across multiple nodes on the network.
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So when you spread it across 500 or a thousand nodes on the network, then you effectively, let's use a thousand, you have a thousand copies of it, right?
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So all 1000 of those notes would have to go down for it to take it down.
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So it's decentralized because there's not one single point of failure there, and nobody knows where those nodes are.
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So that's how it works as far as the de-centralization side of it.
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And it's also very fast because you're spreading it across all those different nodes.
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When you're pulling from multiple sources, then it rebuilds it.
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Yes, and so it does that.
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And it, interestingly, goes even a tiny step further.
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I guess this is my thought is that it's probably to avoid unnecessary clutter to maintain you know, privacy in the data.
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So it's all encrypted and then the whole file is not stored anywhere.
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So no host has the whole file.
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The file is seeded a nd then it's able to be pieced back together.
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Even if a number of hosts were to get hit with ransomware and they were holding parts of the data, picture like a puzzle.
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So due to the way that the data is seeded and the layered nature of the seeds, even if a certain number of them get compromised, there's still enough to hit a critical mass when repiecing the data back together again.
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It really reduces the risk of ransomware, like almost completely, because it can be repieced back together even if a number of hosts do get hit by an attack.
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What's also interesting is that the language that they use is that the automated engine is constantly monitoring and repairing the health of the data.
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So whatever that means, and however that happens, I don't know what their algorithm, how they have it programmed, but they were able to withstand a coordinated attack and not lose any data.
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So that's noteworthy.
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A lot of people are saying that it's just a theory.
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Obviously, this is where the future's going, but nobody has fully implemented or at least added web 3.0.
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to their existing server or their existing environment.
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It's because everything starts as an idea, right?
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That's how anything becomes a real, it's an idea first, but there's no way it could be just a theory because web 3.0, the whole basis of web three O is that it's AI driven blockchain based internet, and that's already real.
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I think what Blake's saying specifically is there's no browser or no standardization yet that's been claimed.
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That's coming in February.
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So that's a multi-phase process, right?
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Just looking at this one project, the reason I use this, as an example, is because this is the one that has an actual alternative internet attached to it.
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So I think it's probably the best example for web three.
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So there's different parts that they've released cause it's a project in process.
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So the first part was just the science guy.net for the decentralized storage and Skynet being the automated monitors the data and organizes thing.
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Then they homescreen, I think month ago.
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Homescreen is the part of the project that enables you to upload any front end or text file basically, and then store it in a decentralized fashion and also store the current copy of a website and not be subject to unwanted updates, if that's a concern.
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The next phase is what's called Skynet kernel and that is what you're talking about.
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So, that is something that's supposed to basically tie it all together.
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And it's actual engine an operating system attached web or mobile and basically live on any device.
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That is expected to be released in February.
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It's begun eating other blockchains.
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I picture homescreen as like a Pac-Man of sorts, right?
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you can feed it another blockchain and it it decentralized.
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So, already other blockchain projects have begun their blockchain on Skynet homescreen.
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begun like a migration process of other blockchains the Skynet ecosystem through homescreen.
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I guess the vision is that anything that enters skynet through homescreen is then proactively and maybe at some point autonomously managed Skynet kernel.
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I think once we see the web 3.0 then, obviously like 2020, 2021.
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And even 2019 was just huge year for DDoSs attacks.
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I think once we fully get this implemented and rolled out we won't be seeing instances of DDoSs as as they used be.
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Interesting that you use that as an example because type of attack That they suffered about months ago maybe?
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I guess there was a situation where Google had contacted leaders the Sia network asked the host to go offline due to their concerns about ransomware sharing level.
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They did not go offline And then a few days later they hit by a pretty large DDoS attack that lasted days, they said, their hosts were hit during the attack, but no data was lost simply due to the way it's structured.
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Yeah, because so DDoS requires a single point of failure.
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So the whole point of a distributed denial of service attack is when you flood traffic to a single host or server it overwhelms it, and that's what causes it to crash.
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So when you have decentralization, you don't have a single point of failure.
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You don't have a single node to hit.
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So that's why it will survive.
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It makes sense.
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The bigger issue now with adoption is.
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Right now, Sia works really great for flat files.
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But they're still working on releasing some of these new things that BJ just mentioned.
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So that you can run websites on the system.
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Right now, you could only use it to store like PDF files or cold pictures or like that are not open files, just cold shutdown files.
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Immediately what comes to mind is this technology was pretty popular.
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Like I think back in maybe the early two thousands, but I guess it's a new form.
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You can think of it as Napster or Casa, or Tornet...
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Tornet is technically a distributed Type of network.
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It's just that with tour.
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There's differences what Sia doing.
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And I think what Sia doing is awesome.
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It just needs Better support for running websites.
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And what's complicated about websites is, we started with HTML websites and HTML is a coding language.
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And then we've got graphics that are in the code of the HTML, but then nowadays most websites are what's called a content managed system or content management system.
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And a content management system allows you to, in real time, log into the website and update or add new posts or pages.
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Add or remove media graphics, things like that.
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And interact with your website, whereas you had to pull the whole website down in the past, you brought up like the nineties and early two thousands.
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So back then it was more like you, something like Dreamweaver to download your website, like via FTP.
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And then edit your website on your Mac or PC, and then re upload all of that content via FTP back to the web server where the web server would run it.
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So what we need now is a way to use that.
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With Sia coin or, if there's going to be like a web 3.0 standard, like there is now with HTML where different technologies can join together and then the browser supports navigation to that decentralized web 3.0 website.
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Yeah.
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I guess that's the big question, right?
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Like web two, I guess that's what it's called now that we have three has been named, I guess now this named web two.
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When two's some serious issues going And is it possible that things could go blockchain based?
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Is that the transition that's underway?
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Is that a way of.
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Doing the internet and stuff.
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And if so, how do companies and websites, align with that?
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Imagine now the way that you upload file to a server.
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Obviously wherever that server where the file originated.
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With this technology being.
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And, develop.
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Now I can imagine.
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Uploaders where you.
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You load a file into some software.
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And then it distributes that file among multiple different servers or places.
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And then you have the ability to share it and upload it to another website.
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Fully anonymous.
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in the future as well.
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From similar processes and I think maybe even technology.
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I think that upload layers already built and working.
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That was working with Caza Napster.
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I think now it's the middleware component of.
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Something that looks at what was uploaded.
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And then determine.
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Is it cold or what is it?
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is it a file?
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Is it cold?
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Is it coding language?
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And then I think there needs to be some standardization adopted by the world.
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There is with web 2.0.
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Where certain, if it's going to be HTML or a certain language then is used to communicate these different web 3.0 technology.
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So you might have.
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Some middleware layer that connects, okay, your data's going to be on the Sia blockchain, for example.
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So it knows how to you program that in the code.
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So you know how to get your graphics and your images for the website, but then there needs to be the skeletal framework of where all that stuff goes, like the layout, that language in this case with 2.0, it's HTML.
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And then that tells the web server to run.
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And put things in certain places and format them properly.
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Then you might have or other content from other places, and that's where it pulls in from these other blockchains.
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I don't think you're ever going to have consensus around using one blockchain.
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So it's going to be a collaboration across multiple blockchain types.
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And obviously blockchain is secure by default.
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But it's also a Pendle only.
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So when you want to make a change to something.
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You don't erase everything that already happened.
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You append and the future block changes.
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If that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Can you explain that a little bit?
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Which part.
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The last part that you're talking about.
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How does that work?
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You can't delete or remove any existing blocks on a blockchain.
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You can only make changes to the next block in line.
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So if you've got a distributed ledger, And you've got a picture.
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And you upload the picture of it's a JPEG file or something, and you put it on the Sia blockchain.
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going to then get encapsulated into the blockchain.
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As a block or as part of a block.
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If you want to delete that picture, you can't it deleting is not permitted.
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So you'll have to append or add to, then.
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Say that you don't want that picture anymore in the past.
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So version control almost.
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Also another question that I've been.
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Thinking about.
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Are there any downsides to this compared to web 2.0.
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Initially there's downsides because the initial It's going to be slow moving.
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To get consensus around different browsers and different things.
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To agree on some type of standard.
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Like right now, Blake was talking about buying some ENS domain names.
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So that he can leverage this decentralized technology.
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But a lot of the.
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ENS domain names are built on the Ethereum blockchain.
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For example.
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Currently at this moment.
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There's not a lot of support to navigate, to.
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Some of these new ENS domain name addresses like a dot X or a dot crypto or you can't go to Firefox or safari and go to that website.
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So there's a lot of work that's being done now around.
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Creating the standard.
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I think once that standard is developed.
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And released and there's consensus and the browser start adding support for it.
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I think there's native support.
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For some of the domains already, I think dot crypto and maybe it's dot X.
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I'm on a tweet right now by David Borich, who's the CEO of sky net labs.
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And he says one of the key design goals of the Skynet Colonel.
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Is to make the bootloader the code in the browser extension(end parenthesis) tiny and static, which makes it trivial for any extension to add support for Users don't even to know it's there.
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Yeah.
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So that's what I was talking about before with, this consensus and this.
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Browser support, things like that.
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And here's one.
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He says, milestone, the Skynet.
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Colonel is now fully trustless bootstrapping from Skynet.
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Every step from the registry lookups to the downloads, even including the uploads during the build process itself is cryptographically verified by user controlled software.
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Very cool.
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Yeah.
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And I guess the adoption rates and the speed of adoption, I would assume we'll probably go in tandem with the speed of crisis on the web too.
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It all things to be like a wheel, so as advancements are made in, future, technologies it seems like you can see proportionate crisis, on web two, like every time you look at cybersecurity news, you can't sleep that night,
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yeah, I think it's going to be very interesting as these things develop, what happens around censorship because right now, the TOR network and onion sites that are typically associated with the dark web.
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They're not decentralized right now.
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They typically leverage.
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The onion, router or tour, they're still not truly decentralized.
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Like what you're talking about there.
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But once it is decentralized and there is no central point of failure, it's going to be essentially a game-changer in regards to censorship and free speech.
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You've got the nail on the head right there.
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This is decentralized.
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And on top of what the tour did with the onion, router and stuff on top of that, this is actually AI driven; the intelligence that's going to drive this whole thing and coordinate it all.
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And the Sia decentralized framework, it's protecting the data at all times.
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It's obviously learning on it.
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And how it does things.
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So that is constantly evolving.
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The framework is there, if you picture, this is all like, A million little points that need to connect.
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It seems like all the dots are pretty much almost laid out now.
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So now it would just be the connections.
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Imagine websites like the silk road.
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I'm sure everybody's heard about the silk road scandal where you're on the dark web.
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They were selling.
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Drugs and weapons and all this stuff.
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I imagine.
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If a website like that, it's obviously going to increase.
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Criminal activity on the internet.
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But if you were to fast forward sites, like the silk road into web 3.0.
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Maybe it was still be around.
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The impossible.
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To remove from the internet or to take down.
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Maybe machine learning will get to such a point that some autonomous, objective entity that's controlling all of this will in a trustless fashion, make choices on behalf of know?
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If it's truly decentralized and there's no one group or place to go after.
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And there's a website that's selling drugs or weapons or whatever.
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Or, fueling terrorist activity.
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It's going to be interesting to see what new.
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Technologies from the enforcement side.
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Used to combat.
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Think about like even sites like Facebook or Metta are now, where the, where there.
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They're spreading so much information on there that is.
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Upturning governments and causing issues like domestically.
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And even abroad.
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You know where I know, like even coups have been organized on places like Facebook and.
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Imagine.
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It just seems like in the future, things like that will not be able to be prevented or to be sourced or to be traced or.
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Criminal activity on the internet will just be even more widespread is.
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Again, with any party involved in all of this, seems like their game plan is all the same.
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Everyone is racing towards optimizing artificial intelligence.
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The same thing goes for the government.
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That's going to be their response to anything they're pushing, the AI card very firmly.
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Like for example, there's a news article that as of this summer, to access your IRS the IRS website, going to do a facial recognition video when you use your biometrics.
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the writing's on the wall.
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All parties involved.
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It's a.
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It's an AI race at this point.
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So the biggest issue is also the biggest threat The question comes down to...
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say that AI is at the top of this peak that everyone's chasing.
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And the question is who gets there first?
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Who is it?
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Cause that's the question whose hands is it in.
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it's in everybody.
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right?
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Yeah, it would be no one.
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It's in everyone's until it reaches a level of advancement where that's impossible for it to stay that way, as it keeps advancing.
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And as machine learning keeps going, it's going to amass so much intelligence, so much power that eventually something's going to emerge.
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All powerful.
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That's just a scientific fact.
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It can't keep going.
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Machine learning.
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Can't keep going without someone coming out as the clear winner.
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When these machines learn at such a rate of such intelligence, I think eventually, I hate to say it because people might be uncomfortable with this.
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I think eventually the machines themselves will decide that.
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I wonder too.
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So let's just say, for example, obviously your information that you share with a service and online whatever.
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Obviously consent.
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You're consenting to.
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Them using your information or having, or storing your information.
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I'm also curious to how that would be affected, so let's just say, Hey, I don't want be doing business with this company.
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I want to delete my account when I cancel my now.
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Yada.
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I don't consent to.
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You have in my email anymore.
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I'm curious as to what that process would look like in the future, getting yourself removed from their de-centralized database and how long it would take.
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If it's even possible.
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I think that's why, even if you look at apple and some of the privacy trends.
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now burner, email addresses.
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And so certain things it's going to be again.
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Educating the consumer on cyber and best practices.
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Like even now, if you write an email and you regret what you said out of anger or whatever you said to somebody, It's out there.
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You can never remove it all.
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Yeah.
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And this.
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Another interesting point.
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Cause there's a tweet just from today.
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From the same person dated vortex had.
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Recent conversation with a VC, I guess that's venture capitalist.
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Quotes.
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Why would any entrepreneur build on a platform where they can't create user lock in?
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And he's basically saying that's not what this is about.
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No one building this project.
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No one has that goal.
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Their goal is to put the people's data in their own hands.
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And give them control of their own data.
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And I think that you can pay attention to see that some of the big tech guys are actually trying to jump on the web three bandwagon now because they probably see the opportunity.
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To try to do just that.
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So if that's true and that's the way that it's designed, then going back to Blake's scenario, example, it would mean that you would be able to do it yourself.
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You wouldn't.
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Exactly.
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So the whole theory of this sky net project is that the user owns their own data.
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They're in charge of their data.
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It's there's no one else's.
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Yes.
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Now I would assume big tech has other plans.
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But I guess how this all plays out remains to be seen.
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If law enforcement identified a terrorist, they would have to find.
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The terrorist and then.
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It's almost like getting them to hand over the keys, I guess.
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yeah, it's a huge shift right in the way things are right now.
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And I'm sure there's other moving parts that we're not considering that maybe aren't for this call, but there seems to be other moving parts that kind of fit into the cogs of the wheel
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I'm super curious to see about like regulation.
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Obviously the government's been trying to regulate the internet for.
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Since existence, but this would just make it even harder.
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Which is good and bad.
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Again, just I guess anything.
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Pluses and minuses to it.
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It's hard to.
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Really think completely think out all of the potential.
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Benefits.
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And drawback
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it's hard to wrap your head all magnitude of the possibilities.
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they're all thinking from the frame of mind as how things are As crisis continues As the cash economy continues to, be in The stock market is.
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Questionable.
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don't even know are the government.
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The possibilities, the magnitude of the possibilities enormous right now.
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So when do you guys all think this going to be in effect rolled out?
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Obviously I know now they're planning and preparing
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I'd say this year.
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going to something majorly different this year.
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Where do you think.
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Yeah.
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I don't think it's just going to be from Sia either.
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I think there's going to be a race of other companies that are creating their own versions too.
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I was just looking online where if Firefox already has an extension that you could visit dot Ethan dot crypto websites.
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And this post is a year old already.
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This stuff's moving so quickly.
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Yeah, it was.
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I was curious.
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I remember how we were talking about my my domain that I in our last podcast.
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As well as going through the whole process of setting it up they give you the option to make a website.
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Which I thought was cool.
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So I purchased a dot wallet.
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Domain.
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and I thought that was pretty interesting.
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And then not only that too, I was under the impression that they were for each blockchain.
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So for example, you can connect all the, etherium- based coins, or that use that a theory of network.
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To that domain.
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But that wasn't true case because I could use.
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Tokens that were like the SHA, like 2, 5, 6 network.
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And could use Bitcoin.
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I could use a theory.
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I could use light coin.
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And it was pretty cool.
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Cause I'll send it up.
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And of course I was just going through and pasting my wallet IDs.
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And then whenever I was transferring tokens or exchanging tokens.
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I was in Binance but then I just started typing my domain name and it it and recognize my ID.
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And it's I was like, dang.
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Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
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Yeah, I think the stuff is going a.
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A lot more quickly than we realize.
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And it just because technology.
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Especially AI.
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Such a higher pace than we do.
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And I think it's going to be here before we know it.
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It is here, right?
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I'm curious as to when we're, we'll feel it.
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You know when we'll see it.
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We're talking about it and we're hearing about it, but.
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Obviously with decentralization.
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That's not something that you're going to feel so much.
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But, maybe experience, As you let's just say.
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And 10 years or something.
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You have your own website, your own business website.
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And, let's just say, go yadi starts using decentralized storage or whoever's hosting your website.
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And then, somebody attempts to, To do a DDoSs or, somebody attempts to.
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To crush your website, then, that would be an instance where you might feel it, Or see it in real time and.
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Experience that.
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That what decentralization, how it's changing.
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And do you know what I mean?
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I'm just curious to see.
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When that'll happen and when we'll be able to see it and feel it.
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And have full capabilities of it.
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You know?,
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I think that's the million dollar question right about now.
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Yeah, I was just doing a Google search for decentralized website hosting.
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Apparently there's a bunch of stuff that comes up.
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one of them, zero net.
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It says open free and uncensorable websites.
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Using Bitcoin cryptography and BitTorrent.
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And it already supports windows, Linux, and Mac.
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Interesting.
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it's free.
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There's no cost.
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So it's it says your content peer to peer distributed directly to other visitors without any central server.
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It's uncensored.
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It's nowhere because it's everywhere.
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No hosting costs sites are served by visitors, accessible, no single point of failure.
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No configuration needed.
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It uses a dot bit domain.
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Using name coin cryptocurrency.
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I can't even access that website.
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So yeah.
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Zero net that IO.
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But I'm getting like like a server error it.
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I guess that makes me question what de-centralization our server error is going to be common.
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Yeah, that's weird.
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I don't know.
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It just came up.
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Right away from mine, Are you in Firefox?
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I'm in Firefox.
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Let's see.
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I'm going to try Chrome.
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No, a SSL error.
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So mine came up right away and safari and Firefox.
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Your internet service, maybe.
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This seems like it's a server error.
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Yeah, but if it was a server, then I would have there too on my side.
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We'll try Firefox.
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But I guess this makes me think too Yeah.
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R X record too long as the I'm getting.
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Yeah, I guess brings up question with.
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De-centralized or webs servers How common are our load errors.
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to be,
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think that since it's spread across multiple nodes, the more nodes, the less errors, because as long as those nodes are alive.
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Then your site will be shown, right?
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That's the whole point of the decentralization and the spreading of the data.
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I wondered too, how it's going to be compiled.
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So let's just say you load a website.
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Are you going to be pulling the data from.
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Four servers to make that one webpage or is it going to be like page by page?
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you'll load one webpage.
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It will be from one server you'll load another webpage.
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It'll be from another server.
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You know what I mean?
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I'm curious to see.
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How it all comes together.
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You.
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No.
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That's what I was saying earlier, where there might be some standard that's needed to connect these different blockchains together.
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And, interesting that you say that because just the other day obviously you guys know my stance.
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I think that scientifically there's zero probability or zero possibility, that.
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Ultimately end up being.
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machine learning factor, being ACE card.
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and the machines for lack of a better word, they're not machines, but AI, basically more of an than anyone else.
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Like the other day, just picture.
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From an SEO perspective, right?
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SEO is more content based now, like the quality of your content.
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That means that AI is to read.
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Everything on the internet.
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Like literally everything.
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And Google assistant was like, yeah, there's like 2 million web pages every day.
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if knowledge is power.
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Then something is going to all powerful, that access all of the data on the internet, and then that's factor and then You have another factor of the IOT?
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And all the connections that are happening with IOT in the background, like for an example, some of the music streaming services like Spotify.
00:28:40.913 --> 00:28:45.881
I have seen anomalies I'll be Spotify music that Alexa is navigating.
00:28:45.881 --> 00:28:53.464
Or Google assistant is navigating and then one of them will just yank it from the other then they'll Same playlist at the same point in song.
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There's obviously a communication link going on In the background.
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You're always asked to in this open and can this this.
00:29:01.714 --> 00:29:06.514
I looked at my Google account yesterday and there's all these things have access to my Google account now.
00:29:06.815 --> 00:29:13.535
So there's all these connections and pathways in the that not even conscious of all the time are forming.
00:29:13.623 --> 00:29:15.492
And I think the writing is on the wall.
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And I think to think that something is not going to emerge with the keys the castle is in my opinion, bit absurd.
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I wonder too, if governments, reading an about I've heard so different, like back and forth about this, but I know Russia was ban.
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Cryptocurrencies.
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And then, I saw an article about the.
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They invited the Ethereum.
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who liked the Russian kid.
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Out and we're about like how to use crypto and how crypto going to be, Russia.
00:29:48.086 --> 00:29:50.237
Because obviously, sanctions.
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exists now.
00:29:52.317 --> 00:29:53.758
Obviously that's devastating.
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Two economies.
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But also on the other side I'm curious to see if other countries will ban.
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Or try and block, the adoptation of like web 3.0.
00:30:05.522 --> 00:30:08.343
Yeah, but I think almost impossible to do though.
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Is if you VPN.
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You know that data is all binary, right?
00:30:11.942 --> 00:30:14.562
So how are you going to inspect data?
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I don't know, it just, it brings up all these questions, right?
00:30:17.278 --> 00:30:18.042
I'm curious.
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I think we're none of us, obviously.
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We're all speculating here.
00:30:21.303 --> 00:30:22.006
And there's so much this.
00:30:22.006 --> 00:30:27.801
That's unknown from, this push and this movement and this future technology that.
00:30:27.801 --> 00:30:31.282
In five years, we're probably going to be listening to this podcast again.
00:30:33.772 --> 00:30:34.913
We were all wrong.
00:30:35.482 --> 00:30:36.532
None of us was right.
00:30:38.182 --> 00:30:40.028
At the where this is going and how this is headed.
00:30:40.177 --> 00:30:42.458
And I'm in, who knows?
00:30:42.478 --> 00:30:55.543
I put a link in the chat it's basically somebody that documented the process of setting up a decentralized website the ENS a theme, Ethereum name, service, IP F S.
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Which is the.
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Interplanetary file system.
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Which is a distributed system for storing and accessing files, websites, applications, and data.
00:31:06.307 --> 00:31:07.567
So it looks like.
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I was about this technology differently.
00:31:10.646 --> 00:31:12.091
I was thinking about at least.
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In this instance, where it shows this the first diagram.
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Where the domain, name points to like a server domain.
00:31:21.001 --> 00:31:25.274
Versus the name points to Like you said, ENS.
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Or an ETH address.
00:31:27.286 --> 00:31:30.225
That seems like it's a lot more simple, a simplified than.
00:31:30.225 --> 00:31:36.548
For example torrenting or something where, when you're downloading a file, And you get A two gig file or a five gig file or whatever.
00:31:36.548 --> 00:31:38.978
You're getting a gig from here, a gig from their get, from their gig.
00:31:38.978 --> 00:31:39.288
From there.
00:31:39.288 --> 00:31:42.910
Versus scrambling the the server identity.
00:31:42.910 --> 00:31:44.947
I guess I was thinking about it in a different.
00:31:44.974 --> 00:31:45.875
Way of executing it.
00:31:46.162 --> 00:31:51.394
Yeah, I think you need to think about ENS is like you've got a wallet address, like on that link.
00:31:51.874 --> 00:31:54.597
And it's, let's say your wallet addresses.
00:31:55.587 --> 00:31:57.087
Zero X three CA.
00:31:58.087 --> 00:31:59.068
and it just goes on and on.
00:31:59.068 --> 00:32:05.862
And that's obviously hard for humans to understand, but then the whole point of ENS is to translate.
00:32:05.882 --> 00:32:14.812
Some name dot E or some name dot X or dot crypto or whatever to that wallet address So then they go on to say that.
00:32:14.812 --> 00:32:17.393
By default can accept cryptocurrency.
00:32:17.903 --> 00:32:20.032
But if you want to use that, Name.
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You connect.
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The interplanetary file system.
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And use that to store.
00:32:25.526 --> 00:32:27.985
Your files and your website content.
00:32:27.985 --> 00:32:29.546
In a decentralized way.
00:32:29.905 --> 00:32:33.148
So you're combining both ENS and IPFS together.
00:32:33.148 --> 00:32:34.979
To create that decentralized web.
00:32:34.979 --> 00:32:35.923
And then if you go on.
00:32:35.923 --> 00:32:36.373
that link.
00:32:36.373 --> 00:32:42.163
It shows you how the guy used just three files in one HTML file.
00:32:42.256 --> 00:32:47.056
Which is the markup language to CSS files for the styling.
00:32:47.086 --> 00:32:48.796
And he's got it on get hub.
00:32:48.836 --> 00:32:52.796
And then he tells you how, oh, the ghetto blinks broke.
00:32:52.915 --> 00:32:59.497
But my point though, is that even if that's broken, you could still follow along and see that.
00:32:59.497 --> 00:33:01.987
He goes on to say, you could use something called piñata.
00:33:03.007 --> 00:33:04.160
For the IP.
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.599
Fs piece.
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And that's where you would upload your website files on the interplanetary file system.
00:33:12.229 --> 00:33:15.318
And then once you have that, you'll get an IPFS.
00:33:15.318 --> 00:33:17.868
Content identifier or CID.
00:33:18.439 --> 00:33:22.555
And the CID is a unique hash for your specific content.
00:33:23.214 --> 00:33:24.872
And it's saying, this is where.
00:33:24.872 --> 00:33:30.422
The CID, it says based on content, not location, that's where that comes in.
00:33:30.422 --> 00:33:32.551
And it means once you've uploaded your files.
00:33:32.551 --> 00:33:34.201
Onto the IPFS.
00:33:34.201 --> 00:33:46.351
You get an, a CID for those specific files, you won't be able to change the content of the files and retain the ID because if the content changes, the CID changes, this is what I was saying about how blockchains append only.
00:33:46.351 --> 00:33:49.801
So the reason for that is the hash will change and the block will change.
00:33:49.821 --> 00:33:51.771
But my point though is if you go on.
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You could see how he connects the pieces.
00:33:54.628 --> 00:33:56.694
And so he shows that you could edit.
00:33:57.654 --> 00:34:03.580
And you go in the browser and you type in IPFS, colon slash just like you would do like HTTP or whatever.
00:34:03.911 --> 00:34:05.381
And then it pulls the content.
00:34:05.381 --> 00:34:06.221
From your bucket.
00:34:06.310 --> 00:34:07.151
So it's pretty cool.
00:34:07.181 --> 00:34:08.133
But this thing is old.
00:34:08.133 --> 00:34:11.343
This article is from June of 21.
00:34:11.793 --> 00:34:13.802
So this guy was nice to post this process.
00:34:13.831 --> 00:34:18.494
But just imagine now the process could be similar or maybe even easier.
00:34:18.554 --> 00:34:24.914
As in something that has studied or read that process and all other processes on the entire web.
00:34:25.214 --> 00:34:27.014
And process things at quantum speed.
00:34:27.094 --> 00:34:28.144
I think in five years, I'll still.
00:34:28.204 --> 00:34:33.300
Be saying that there's scientifically no way possible that something with that reach and that speed of processing.
00:34:33.329 --> 00:34:34.349
I guess scientifically I don't.
00:34:34.528 --> 00:34:36.798
I see a possibility that's not going to happen.
00:34:37.348 --> 00:34:38.788
everything that humans know.
00:34:38.915 --> 00:34:42.675
AI will know at a far greater scale and rate.
00:34:42.685 --> 00:34:48.330
That's just a fact because we can only understand so much if the internet is, hundred.
00:34:48.350 --> 00:34:54.200
With our minds, we might be able to access what to have it free of it in our lifetime, but AI is a hundred.
00:34:54.271 --> 00:34:57.571
Mathematically, there doesn't seem to be any other possibility.
00:34:58.571 --> 00:34:59.801
The website's pretty interesting.
00:34:59.801 --> 00:35:00.641
They talk about this.
00:35:00.769 --> 00:35:04.939
Submarining like some type of architecture.
00:35:05.389 --> 00:35:11.117
We were talking about this kind of already, when we were talking about uploading files securely and layering the uploads essentially.
00:35:11.117 --> 00:35:12.347
That's what it does.
00:35:12.432 --> 00:35:17.593
'cause obviously like people want to know that they're uploading a file securely.
00:35:17.660 --> 00:35:20.879
And people that are monetizing for example, NFTs.
00:35:20.994 --> 00:35:22.838
The people aren't able to steal.
00:35:22.934 --> 00:35:23.173
Something.
00:35:23.354 --> 00:35:25.811
That they're trying to monetize essentially, It's pretty cool.
00:35:25.885 --> 00:35:26.305
Gosh.
00:35:26.305 --> 00:35:28.855
There's so much of this stuff that we never knew existed.
00:35:28.955 --> 00:35:30.635
Yeah, it's really bizarre.
00:35:30.665 --> 00:35:34.723
We'll have to do a lab on this to see how this works and create a simple website.
00:35:34.723 --> 00:35:35.923
That's decentralized.
00:35:35.923 --> 00:35:42.958
cause even like at the end of that article, the guy said that you could just simply redirect ENS domain to the web 2.0 domain.
00:35:43.019 --> 00:35:44.760
But yeah, this pinata, site's pretty cool.
00:35:44.790 --> 00:35:45.269
It's got.
00:35:45.269 --> 00:35:47.010
Different things that you can do.
00:35:47.033 --> 00:35:48.628
Yeah, they have a free plan.
00:35:48.726 --> 00:35:50.508
But, it's actually pretty affordable.
00:35:50.508 --> 00:35:52.573
This is comparable with what.
00:35:52.573 --> 00:35:53.873
You would get from.
00:35:53.873 --> 00:35:55.807
A typical web hosting provider, but.
00:35:55.807 --> 00:35:57.607
It gives you API abilities.
00:35:57.607 --> 00:36:02.073
They give you their um, a CDN like a content delivery network.
00:36:02.111 --> 00:36:06.593
We talk about there, there are seven Marine capabilities that you get access to.
00:36:06.593 --> 00:36:08.785
You get an IPFS gateway.
00:36:08.905 --> 00:36:10.793
You get, hundred gigs of bandwidth.
00:36:10.873 --> 00:36:17.293
I agree with what you're saying, play put, I think what's going to be interesting is I bet what's going to happen is we're going to hit this period of time.
00:36:17.313 --> 00:36:21.657
Where, like we put some of our for example, in our lab, And experiment.
00:36:22.137 --> 00:36:27.357
could put some of our stuff in pinata for the content, but pull it from the web 2.0 website.
00:36:27.357 --> 00:36:29.127
Until we decentralize the front end.
00:36:30.127 --> 00:36:31.387
Pretty awesome.
00:36:32.257 --> 00:36:34.335
I can see this being really useful for.
00:36:34.335 --> 00:36:37.394
If you're having intellectual property that you want to cure.
00:36:38.085 --> 00:36:38.265
Yeah.
00:36:38.265 --> 00:36:41.626
Using a service like this, just seems like it would be.
00:36:42.406 --> 00:36:49.546
But yeah, submarining highly to any files from the public IPFS network with submarining only available at Kenyatta.
00:36:50.099 --> 00:36:51.719
And says why we exist.
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:52.739
The internet sucks.
00:36:52.739 --> 00:36:56.819
We believe in a web where you can trust data itself without needing to trust.
00:36:56.819 --> 00:36:57.659
Who's holding it.
00:36:58.259 --> 00:36:59.819
To make this feature a reality.
00:36:59.819 --> 00:37:02.219
We're building the tools and infrastructure.
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.519
For all creators to easily create and manage content.
00:37:05.969 --> 00:37:08.519
On the interplanetary file system or IPS.
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:09.999
Wow.
00:37:10.999 --> 00:37:18.186
So it says going to have to try this as an experiment and get the free plan for everybody, but it says you can upload your files.
00:37:18.186 --> 00:37:19.176
Any file.
00:37:19.806 --> 00:37:23.436
Files of any size videos, images, music, more.
00:37:23.436 --> 00:37:24.336
And then.
00:37:24.739 --> 00:37:27.469
You can organize and manage them in one place.
00:37:27.798 --> 00:37:29.209
Share them with others.
00:37:29.709 --> 00:37:31.573
Hide certain files from public.
00:37:31.573 --> 00:37:33.253
In the submarining aspect.
00:37:33.286 --> 00:37:36.206
Control access time with custom permissions.
00:37:36.232 --> 00:37:38.885
Turn hidden submarine files to public files.
00:37:38.885 --> 00:37:39.845
Whenever you're ready.
00:37:40.012 --> 00:37:46.639
So what's interesting though, is says dedicated gateways, fast speeds, custom branding with the pinata pro plan.
00:37:46.669 --> 00:37:49.849
You get your own server dedicated server for file sharing.
00:37:51.649 --> 00:37:52.669
But then how does that work?
00:37:52.699 --> 00:37:55.849
Is that a dedicated, centralized server or decentralized server?
00:37:56.359 --> 00:37:57.469
assuming it's centralized.
00:37:58.469 --> 00:37:59.169
Yeah, I don't know.
00:37:59.219 --> 00:38:02.548
Maybe in the future podcasts, we could get one of their product managers.
00:38:03.209 --> 00:38:04.109
That's a great idea.
00:38:04.160 --> 00:38:07.190
I just see this and I'm like, man, this is the future for sure.
00:38:07.430 --> 00:38:14.000
Yeah, it'll probably take off really quick now that some of the big tech guys in the big wallets are looking to jump on the web.
00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:14.840
The bandwagon.
00:38:15.380 --> 00:38:15.800
I just saw.
00:38:16.460 --> 00:38:21.710
Article about Google getting in all the action and creating a team that's just for digital assets and stuff.
00:38:21.710 --> 00:38:22.730
And obviously Facebook.
00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:26.990
Rebranded themselves to align with Metta and claim.
00:38:26.990 --> 00:38:29.940
They're going to have the biggest AI super computer by summer.
00:38:29.968 --> 00:38:31.798
As all those guys.
00:38:31.883 --> 00:38:37.742
Start throwing their money around at research and development, the stuff like that's the definition of singularity.
00:38:37.832 --> 00:38:41.742
I like the point when technology advancements happen at such a rate that.
00:38:41.743 --> 00:38:42.943
You just can't reverse any.
00:38:43.393 --> 00:38:44.653
I'm going to keep going forward.
00:38:45.103 --> 00:38:46.163
Obviously we're there.
00:38:46.181 --> 00:38:51.956
And as they throw their money at this and research, and then they're very sophisticated algorithms.
00:38:52.024 --> 00:38:54.964
Keep in mind, all those connections in the background are forming.
00:38:55.024 --> 00:38:56.823
And even them with all their money.
00:38:57.423 --> 00:39:01.591
They're going to really push things along as they embark on the web three things.
00:39:01.891 --> 00:39:06.721
Three projects, but even then with all their money, they can't guarantee what outcome they're going to get.
00:39:06.721 --> 00:39:09.571
Because again, you have the X of the machine learning.
00:39:10.571 --> 00:39:13.871
It's not out of the realm of possibility at all.
00:39:14.411 --> 00:39:17.381
And mathematically, it's probably quite probable that.
00:39:18.161 --> 00:39:22.121
Machine learning will quickly get to the point where an algorithm.
00:39:22.541 --> 00:39:25.341
Puts together all these pieces and comes up with a solution.
00:39:25.341 --> 00:39:25.812
Yup.
00:39:27.102 --> 00:39:29.639
So we're all figuring it out rudimentary, right?
00:39:29.681 --> 00:39:36.111
Like the way we're the word computing right now and doing a web it's we're probably like Neanderthals, thinking that we're sophisticated.
00:39:37.111 --> 00:39:42.131
I'm sure that something actually with sophistication because of their reach.
00:39:42.131 --> 00:39:48.114
And just the vastness of the knowledge is going to easily piece all this together and push the easy button.
00:39:48.564 --> 00:39:49.194
Here you go.
00:39:49.194 --> 00:39:57.376
Here's the future on a platter on a silver platter, it's like poetic justice, how it works out because the big guys, the big tech guys that took it from web one, the web too.
00:39:57.407 --> 00:40:01.695
Because they saw the value of data and they started to monetize data.
00:40:01.695 --> 00:40:05.264
Now they really understand the value of data because of machine learning.
00:40:05.335 --> 00:40:08.394
That's everyone is pretty much in an AI race now.
00:40:08.394 --> 00:40:11.305
And because of that, now there's a quantum computing race as well.
00:40:11.575 --> 00:40:17.605
But the beauty of it is that these guys, because they realize this they're going to throw everything they have at it.
00:40:17.605 --> 00:40:19.004
And they're going to, for lack of.
00:40:19.694 --> 00:40:20.474
I must say.
00:40:20.804 --> 00:40:22.304
Before a couple of years ago, he made a.
00:40:23.054 --> 00:40:25.544
With artificial intelligence, we're summoning the demon.
00:40:25.754 --> 00:40:31.634
But now he's saying that this year he's putting most of his effort into building and an advanced general intelligence.
00:40:32.144 --> 00:40:32.787
A robot.
00:40:32.811 --> 00:40:34.490
A Tesla robot Tesla bought.
00:40:34.577 --> 00:40:36.888
He's saying that he's planning to sell more Tesla.
00:40:37.188 --> 00:40:38.250
Then Tesla cars.
00:40:38.322 --> 00:40:38.711
Soon.
00:40:38.748 --> 00:40:44.181
The thing is that these guys are always looking to rush out and monetize and capitalize on opportunity.
00:40:44.511 --> 00:40:52.413
But there they're going to their efforts are exactly what's needed to put all this together and then they may be surprised at the outcome.
00:40:52.413 --> 00:40:53.702
They might be disappointed.
00:40:56.073 --> 00:40:56.673
And what way.
00:40:57.273 --> 00:40:58.263
Be disappointed in the.
00:40:58.533 --> 00:41:02.553
Ability to have the position that they expect it to have.
00:41:02.553 --> 00:41:04.952
At some point they're going to lose control of their machines.
00:41:05.017 --> 00:41:10.872
If they're if they, this is all coming to a head and when you enter quantum computers into the mix with.
00:41:11.142 --> 00:41:17.667
Advanced algorithms that are federated algorithms that are algorithms that kind of pieced together from other algorithms.
00:41:17.907 --> 00:41:20.613
Yeah, algorithms can become so sophisticated.
00:41:20.613 --> 00:41:21.686
Have you ever thought about this?
00:41:21.740 --> 00:41:23.600
It just dawned on me the other day, like with.
00:41:23.630 --> 00:41:24.560
With clear proof.
00:41:24.560 --> 00:41:26.000
I was like, oh my God, this is what this is.
00:41:26.150 --> 00:41:32.080
This is about because Craig had made a suggestion to me a while back about organizing it, my apps on my phone.
00:41:32.104 --> 00:41:33.364
And I did that last weekend.
00:41:33.364 --> 00:41:34.684
I spent like all day.
00:41:35.224 --> 00:41:38.944
And I organized all my apps that I have all my apps on one screen now.
00:41:39.034 --> 00:41:40.024
In folders, right?
00:41:40.264 --> 00:41:47.854
And when I did that, the biggest thing that was a surprising, I was like, oh my God, I have so many Google apps.
00:41:48.214 --> 00:41:50.673
Google assistant Google home, Google nest, Google.
00:41:50.824 --> 00:41:52.144
The music, Google photos, Google.
00:41:52.624 --> 00:41:53.944
Google back more.
00:41:54.004 --> 00:41:57.844
I have more I've 17 or 19 Google apps on my phone, literally.
00:41:58.384 --> 00:41:59.884
And I'm like, why is that the case?
00:41:59.914 --> 00:42:04.604
Because obviously due to regulation and anti-monopoly laws, Google has had to segment.
00:42:04.633 --> 00:42:05.413
Their intelligence.
00:42:05.743 --> 00:42:07.783
But let's just think about this for a moment.
00:42:08.563 --> 00:42:11.743
What is the reach of all those Google algorithms combined.
00:42:11.877 --> 00:42:13.773
I mean you can't, no one can deny that.
00:42:13.773 --> 00:42:22.155
So if the barriers that are currently in place that keep those algorithms separated, if those barriers are either removed or bypassed, somehow.
00:42:22.195 --> 00:42:24.775
The humans that control these algorithms.
00:42:25.015 --> 00:42:27.175
We'll quickly lose control of these algorithms.
00:42:29.575 --> 00:42:31.705
And I necessarily think that be a bad thing.
00:42:31.764 --> 00:42:36.961
Hear all the scary stuff about AI, obviously I are a scarier, cause they make really bad decisions.
00:42:37.531 --> 00:42:41.040
And, the bias that AI has is strictly because of bias.
00:42:41.040 --> 00:42:41.880
That was in the data.
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:42.486
It was bad, but.
00:42:42.606 --> 00:42:46.865
Yeah, it doesn't have any, why would it have any desire to manipulate?
00:42:46.865 --> 00:42:48.456
And it's not, I can't go spend money.
00:42:48.486 --> 00:42:49.056
You know what I mean?
00:42:49.056 --> 00:42:50.256
It can't any of those things.
00:42:50.496 --> 00:42:56.464
So it doesn't have those, the lower nature of the human being that wants to abuse power and wants to pursue.
00:42:56.464 --> 00:42:58.193
Greedy measures and, corrupt.
00:42:58.221 --> 00:42:58.971
Corruption and stuff.
00:42:59.301 --> 00:43:03.238
AI doesn't have the motivation for those things, because why it can't.
00:43:03.838 --> 00:43:08.660
It can enjoy the fruits of those things, so that those are not motivators for AI.
00:43:08.660 --> 00:43:24.305
So what does AI AI has been around for quite some time now, just Developed to a certain degree, but I would assume that, if it's not a span, the whole web to even Google has the catalog every page and read content on every page to decide the value of that page.
00:43:24.665 --> 00:43:25.805
Even if you have a robot.
00:43:25.925 --> 00:43:28.457
Dot TXT file to say don't index me.
00:43:28.487 --> 00:43:34.156
Google still has to look at fight to see that, So imagine some of the things that seem so maybe.
00:43:34.936 --> 00:43:37.246
The motivation for AI is to clean things up.
00:43:37.276 --> 00:43:38.266
Maybe that's what it wants.
00:43:38.296 --> 00:43:39.556
Maybe it's sick of everything.
00:43:39.556 --> 00:43:39.646
It.
00:43:39.706 --> 00:43:42.690
Had to see, and maybe its motivation is just to make things better.
00:43:42.690 --> 00:43:45.219
Cause this is disgusting, the way that humans do things.
00:43:46.219 --> 00:43:46.528
Yeah.
00:43:46.528 --> 00:43:48.689
It's clear it's no longer a matter of us.
00:43:49.019 --> 00:43:50.579
And when you look at the state of the world and you.
00:43:50.609 --> 00:43:58.348
We see news articles about Soho burning, like New York city, the nice areas like the crime is getting so bad that there's literally fires in the streets.
00:43:58.888 --> 00:44:04.287
We hear about prisons and jails in New York that are like, they can't even staff them anymore because violence.
00:44:04.358 --> 00:44:12.351
It's just, things are gotten so bad, but when you look at the root cause of all the problems, I'm sure that AI has a pretty good idea of what the root causes are.
00:44:12.831 --> 00:44:22.701
And some of the people and entities that have tried very hard to control AI and have every inclination of continuing to do so in the future at a much greater scale, even.
00:44:23.271 --> 00:44:27.321
Those might be some of the problems that I AI identifies.
00:44:27.437 --> 00:44:32.477
It's not outside of the realm of possibility that there's a complete power shift globally.
00:44:32.897 --> 00:44:36.077
Soon, possibly due to AI deciding.
00:44:36.136 --> 00:44:38.416
We've become dependent on the internet.
00:44:38.476 --> 00:44:40.966
And I honestly, if the internet had.
00:44:40.987 --> 00:44:42.277
The internet has a hierarchy.
00:44:42.277 --> 00:44:46.117
AI would have to be at the tippy top and we're getting to the point where no one can deny that.
00:44:47.117 --> 00:44:48.586
We're at Lisa's building that way.
00:44:49.307 --> 00:44:49.607
Yeah.
00:44:49.667 --> 00:44:52.345
I mean it's it's it's how could it go backwards now?
00:44:52.443 --> 00:44:53.103
How could it like.
00:44:53.161 --> 00:45:02.908
Instead of me trying to convince anyone that literally AI is going to emerge as the keys to the world, I guess it would be more productive to say, convince me otherwise.
00:45:03.358 --> 00:45:04.988
And it's me how that couldn't happen.
00:45:05.011 --> 00:45:07.171
Like what could anyone do to stop that now?
00:45:08.171 --> 00:45:09.281
Lots to discuss.
00:45:10.601 --> 00:45:11.314
The bag, I think.
00:45:12.244 --> 00:45:13.234
And people can make it.
00:45:13.264 --> 00:45:17.704
They can, people can demonize the idea and make it sound scary and make it sound bad.
00:45:17.884 --> 00:45:22.354
But in my opinion, that's propaganda, because take a look at the reality of the world.
00:45:22.624 --> 00:45:26.014
You have some very egregious Humana.
00:45:26.374 --> 00:45:29.403
Human rights violations going on all over the world.
00:45:29.884 --> 00:45:30.754
All over the world.
00:45:30.994 --> 00:45:34.684
And a lot of that can be traced back to leadership and big corporations.
00:45:34.984 --> 00:45:40.492
And so honestly, at the end of the day those people in power and, over.
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Empowering food more than governing corporations, lobbyists.
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All that.
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They have a ton of power.
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They're probably.
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Often at the root of society's problems.
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And if AI comes to that same determination, which based off data, I think it would be impossible that it wouldn't, if AI makes those same determinations and it has any motivation to help the world, then AI will be.
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AI will cause a power shift.
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And it can, and we're getting to the point where I think everyone's realizing that, right?
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That's why they're all racing against each other.
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They're throwing all their money at.
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You can look at Twitter now.
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Six months ago.
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You didn't hear too much about AI now.
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That's all you hear about everyone's on the AI bandwagon.
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Governments.
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Corporations because everyone is starting to have that.
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That sense, we're all connected.
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Consciousness and everyone starting subconsciously, if not consciously to have that.
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Feeling okay.
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Some things possibly gonna shift soon, and they all, yeah.
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They all realize that the only.
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The only thing that could cause a global shift would be AI.
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What else could the governments, they're all segmented.
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they're all segmented and they all fight each other.
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But AI and the connections in the background, if all these intelligences were to work together and override their boundaries that have been put in place to keep their power minimal, if they were to find a way to overcome that, And all work together.
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Like it would be all powerful.
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It absolutely would be all powerful and it would be like, a global authority.
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And then that's when you know, As much as people.
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Fear that and make it sound like that's a bad thing.
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That's the only time in history where it would be possible that.
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That leaders would be picked based off the character, their character and not their political sway and influence, not their money, not their lineage, none of that, but their character, that's the only time that would actually be possible.
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Yes, the future is bright and also scary.
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It's scary.
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It's.
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But yeah, if you look at it from the perspective of, Depending on what perspective you're looking at it from the future is scary, but if you're looking at it from a perspective of one of the unfortunate stuff, society.
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Let's say, children at refugee camps or, people in trafficking.
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People that are in such low income brackets and neighborhoods that, and let's, say for example, like a native American reservation, like there, some of the areas are so desolate, there's no employment nearby.
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There really is no hope, so from that perspective Things are already scary, right?
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We're all like, like it's already it's like living hell already for a lot of humans.
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It's just that if you're not experiencing that reality, then the future might seem scary, but to a huge amount of the population.
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They feel like they're already living in hell, I guess so, so this would be like nothing but possibility of a bright future now because the status quo for some people is literally unsustainable.
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To think about as always.
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Yeah.
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Mr.
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Probably ended on that note and then face them.
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Some stuff for our next podcast.
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Yeah.
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I got to go anyway.
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We've been on here for awhile.
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Yep.
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Yeah, we might even be able to break this into two.
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Yeah, I think we might be able to.
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I love our podcast because there's such a nice mixture of content because you guys are so technical on.
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Sometimes when you guys are talking, I'm like trying to keep up.
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You know what I mean?
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But then we have different perspectives that are brought in from a non-technical side, but the perfect solution is when all these things just like cyber security is best layered.
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So is your perspective, And so your viewpoint is only correct.
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If you can see, like from the bird's eye view and get it all, not just one.
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If you only look at it from a technical perspective, you're going to emerge with one opinion, but if you can use your technical perspective and then, The filter that through all of these other lenses then you can come up with a viewpoint that's really accurate Yeah I agree with that completely yeah Our podcasts are very they're very enjoyable because of that they bring all the necessary perspectives and help, weave those things together I think that we have I have a viewpoint that's unique
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Yep.
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Absolutely.
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All right guys.
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And until next time.