SOBRE ESTE EPISÓDIO
Dinner Without the Drama: Quick, Real-Life Hacks to Make Cooking Less Stressful
Why is figuring out dinner every single night the hill we have to die on? In this episode of Drinks With The Girls, Karen and Lisa are joined by guest Lisa Potter — a home cook, working mom, grandmother, and part-time caterer — for a real, hilarious, and super helpful convo about the never-ending dinner grind. Whether you're cooking for picky kids, a partner with “texture issues,” or just yourself (hello, cheese and crackers), this episode is packed with tips, tools, and sanity-saving strategies for midlife mealtime.
From burnout in the kitchen to rediscovering joy through sourdough, we're dishing up:
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Simple weeknight meal hacks that don’t involve 47 ingredients
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Kitchen tools that actually make your life easier
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How to plan meals without losing your mind (hello, Cozi and Plan to Eat apps)
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Why grocery delivery is a midlife miracle
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The secret magic of a well-stocked pantry
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Tips for cooking for one (or two) that don’t involve cereal for dinner — unless you’re into that
We also talk about the emotional labor of always being the one to decide what’s for dinner, why “just ask them to help” actually works, and how to bring a little fun (and wine) back into the kitchen.
Resources + links mentioned are in the show notes — including our favorite apps, pantry staples, and how to get your hands on that sourdough starter.
Whether you’re an empty nester, feeding a full house, or somewhere in between — this one's for you, listeners. Grab a glass, put your feet up, and let’s tackle the dinner dilemma, one shortcut at a time.
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Show Notes:
Here are the links, tools, recipes, and apps we mentioned in the episode, all in one place for you to browse while pretending to meal plan (we see you).
🎤 Our Guest: Lisa PotterHome cook, sourdough whisperer, and co-founder of a catering business with her son (yes, seriously).
🧑🍳 Smoke Ridge Custom Catering Website
📸 Follow on Instagram
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🗓️ Cozi Family Organizer – Create a shared calendar, grocery lists, and store recipes in one spot
👉 Check it out here -
🍴 Plan to Eat – Imports recipes, builds grocery lists, and keeps everything organized
👉 Get 20% off with this link (Lisa earns a small commission)
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Want to start baking sourdough without losing your mind? We got you.
👉 Little Spoon Farm – Sourdough Starter + Tips
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🧺 Sheet Pan Dinner Template – The ultimate weeknight dinner hack
👉 Make your own sheet pan meals
Keep these on hand and dinner practically makes itself (okay, almost):
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Rice & Pasta
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Canned Tomatoes / Tomato Sauce
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Canned or Frozen Veggies
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Cream of Celery / Cream of Chicken Soup
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Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Chili Powder, Paprika
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Roasted Red Peppers
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Kalamata Olives
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Artichoke Hearts
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Bouillon Cubes (Beef, Chicken, Veggie)
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🥬 Tastes Better From Scratch by Lauren Allen
👉 Go to Site -
🥛 Raw Milk Locator
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🍅 Community Supported Agriculture (CSA)
👉 Learn about CSA programs near you -
🥩 Oregon Valley Farms
👉 Local-ish meats delivered -
🥓 ButcherBox (for national meat delivery with sustainable practices)
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🍎 Imperfect Foods – Discounted groceries that are slightly “imperfect” but perfectly delicious
👉 Browse boxes -
🍐 Misfits Market – Similar to Imperfect, depending on where you live
👉 Get started here
The real MVPs for fast, no-fuss cooking:
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✅ Instant Pot – Weeknight lifesaver
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✅ Digital Kitchen Scale – For no-mess baking and sourdough
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✅ Sharp, High-Quality Knife – Game-changer (get it sharpened regularly!)
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✅ Microplane – For garlic, ginger, nutmeg, citrus zest, and more
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✅ Wooden Corner Spoon – Flexible, non-scratching, forever favorite
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Share it with a friend who's over being the default dinner decider
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I think the most important thing is keeping it simple.
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Maybe that's my problem. I got burned out because when my kids were little,
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I would make things like, you know, homemade from scratch wonton soup.
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Wait, Jesus, with like the dumplings and everything from scratch?
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Are you freaking... I was going to stay home. I'm feeding my kids,
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but also I'm using some creativity. I'm doing something a little extra,
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but maybe that's my problem.
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I went too hard, too fast, too early. Now I'm burned out.
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It's not something I'm going to come home and make that for the family after a long day.
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So scheduling that in.
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Yeah, no way. Working and making a big meal. No. For me at this point, I'm an empty nester.
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I'm just tired of making the damn decision when it comes to cooking.
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You guys, I feel like what you both just talked about right now is a hot freaking
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tip. Listeners, am I wrong?
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Welcome to Drinks with the Girls, conversations for women over 40 around connection,
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change, and the power of female friendship.
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Living well with stories to tell.
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I'm Karen, and this is Lisa.
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We are moms and solopreneurs stepping into our own, diving into real conversations
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about things that matter to women in midlife.
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We're here to spill the tea on everything that affects women in their 40s and beyond.
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Topics like loss and grief, changing relationships, launching kids,
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menopause, and reinventing ourselves in midlife. We are here to tackle it all.
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Connect with us through a blend of our lived experiences, our friendship,
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the memory of our moms, plus a collection of real stories, honest conversations,
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and engaging interviews that will make women over 40 feel seen and remind them
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that they're not alone on this journey called life. Let's go.
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Welcome back to Drinks With The Girls, the podcast where we keep it real with
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all things midlife and you get a healthy dose of girl chat in the process.
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I am Karen and we have a special guest today.
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But before we dive in, today I am actually double fisting with a beautiful...
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Because I feel fancy. Petit Syrah from our local winery, Montserrat,
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but also relief unsweetened iced tea. So I'm covering all the bases here.
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So Lisa, my beautiful co-host, what are you drinking?
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Okay, so I'm trying to step it up because I've been so boring.
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And I was at Trader Joe's the other day. I'm like, Karen always finds all these fun little drinks.
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So I bought a couple to try. So I am drinking Olipop, and it is supports digestive
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health with prebiotics, botanicals, and plant fiber.
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I was a little concerned when I saw the plant fiber, because I'm like,
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is it going to be floating around in the soda? Because that's kind of nasty.
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But it isn't, and it's good. It's very watermelon-y, if that's a word.
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So today, we are talking about something we all have to deal with,
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whether we love it or not.
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And everybody has various votes on this scale. Cooking!
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I am so excited for this conversation because I have a love-hate relationship with cooking.
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So for a lot of us, you know, cooking used to be something we did for our families,
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our kids, for obviously out of necessity, got to feed the people, right?
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But now in midlife, it can feel like a chore, a stressor, or something we just
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don't have the time or energy for.
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So I'm super excited to introduce our guest today.
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This is one of my besties, Lisa Potter.
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And Lisa is, well, she's my friend, but she is a cooking expert who's going
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to help us rethink the way we approach food so it feels less like a burden and
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more like something that nourishes not our bodies, but our lives.
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And I will say that this whole topic came about because Lisa and I travel for work a lot together.
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She's always telling me about some crazy things she made and sourdough this
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and this and that and the other. And I remember turning to her and I was like, girl, I don't have time.
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To do the kinds of
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Things you're doing. You are next level crazy. And so since we were stranded
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somewhere on some plane in some airport, she laid it out for me about how she
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does this and how it's not as crazy as it sounds.
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So I'm super excited to have her on tonight to share with you all how she does
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it because she's definitely changed the way I look at it. So Lisa,
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my love, welcome to the show.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to do this with you.
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Oh, and by the way, I'm drinking a Classico Fiancé.
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Nice.
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Yum.
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Cheers. Food has always been a part of my family.
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I grew up in a pretty large family, like with a lot of her cousins,
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and we had huge holiday dinners and celebrations throughout the years.
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My dad probably played the biggest role in my life, and then my grandma.
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And so he really was the inspiration for me cooking at a young age.
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That's something that we did together.
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And so I've carried that through in my family and cooking with the kids when
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they were younger and now with my grandkids.
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So I've had three-year-olds flipping pancakes in my kitchen.
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At least they weren't flipping you something else. Just kidding.
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Okay.
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And don't you have a catering company too, because you're an overachiever like all of us?
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Yes so my oldest son is
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a chef and he and I decided that
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we would love to get together and create our own company so we have a catering
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company called smoke bridge custom catering on the side and so we get to enjoy
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that time together and it really is a bonding for us as well so We just have
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a whole line of cooks in the family.
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In fact, I have the knives of my great-great-grandfather, who was a line cook
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way back, depression time.
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My oldest son, who's a chef, he actually had those knives and my wooden spoon
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tattooed on his forearm because it's so special and important. That's so cool. Yeah.
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Yeah. That is really incredible. Like so much
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About what you just said.
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I mean, first of all, being in business with your child like that,
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you need to come back on the podcast and we just need to talk about that.
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And then you had like he has those tattoos. Oh my gosh. So precious.
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I wish I had that, that love of food and culinary things, but that,
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I mean, I don't know that that's pretty incredible.
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I'm thinking about the whole work with your child thing. I don't know.
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Mine might suffer greatly.
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Or me, I don't know. So we'll have to dive into that.
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But I know that this topic is going to strike a chord for our listeners because
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a lot of women in midlife feel like they're either over it when it comes to
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cooking or they've just lost the joy in it.
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What do you think the biggest reason so many of us struggle with cooking is,
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particularly at this stage of life?
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Well, I think that cooking can be really overwhelming, especially if you come
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home after working all day and it's just another thing you have to do.
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Even if you want to unplug, and that might be different for everyone,
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but there's busy schedules.
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Some of us have adult children. Some of us still have kids at home.
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And it's just such a gamut. I still, I have a sixth grade, excuse me, seventh grade now.
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So I have a wide range that I need to still cook for.
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So I think the most important thing is keeping it simple.
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Just keep it simple. We don't want a difficult and long process because that's just too much.
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So I try to do something that's quick, usually five ingredients or less,
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and pull something together.
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Maybe that's my problem. I got burned out because when my kids were little,
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I literally, I would make things like, you know, homemade from scratch wonton soup.
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Sweet Jesus with
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Like the dumplings and everything.
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I was from scratch?
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I was a stay-at-home mom, so I felt like I'm feeding my kids,
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but also I'm using some creativity. I'm doing something.
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I don't know. I'm doing something a little extra, but maybe that's my problem.
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I went too hard, too fast, too early. Now I'm burnt out.
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I found that if you do want to pull that creativity card, I like to do that
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on a weekend when I have more time and I can just for that.
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Like I have, I have made pasta. Like I wanted to make a homemade tortellonis.
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Right. And so I thought I'm going to do that on the weekend,
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but it was a creative time for me.
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It's not something I'm going to come home and make that for the family after a long day.
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So scheduling that in.
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Yeah, no way. Working and making a big meal. No, no, no, no.
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I, I, when I was doing those crazy meals, I was a stay-home mom.
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So I had all day to think about it and plan it and prep it.
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And like thinking about you with like a mortar and pestle and like wheat berries and shit.
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Like I have my mom's little mortar and pestle.
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That's so cool.
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But I mean, and for me at this point, like my kids are gone.
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I'm an empty nester. It's just me and my fiance, but I'm just tired of making
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the damn decision when it comes to cooking,
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you know even though it's just me and Tony it's just
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two of us but I mean full transparency I kind
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of resent being the default meal person he
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has gotten better I mean sometimes you guys you just have to tell them what
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they need to do and I told him at one point probably like a couple months ago
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I said I don't like this I don't like how at the end of the day it's always
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on me to figure this out and to do it and have it prepared and so now he's doing
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it now it's like tonight Since I'm recording,
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he cooks dinners on Monday nights when we record and then usually one other
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time during the week and he likes looking for recipes and he's getting more confident.
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So anyway, all it took was a conversation. Who knew?
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He can't read your mind?
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What is that?
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No, I thought he could,
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But no. But most women have spent years, decades, planning meals,
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figuring out what to make, getting the ingredients, putting it all together.
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And some of us just don't want to think about it anymore.
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And like I said, I was a stay-at-home mom, and I really got a lot of joy out of it then.
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But, you know, this mom is tired now. There are some ways to simplify cooking
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so we don't have to overthink every meal. because I get caught in that trap,
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I think, sometimes overthinking.
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Yeah. Again, it's the time, capacity, the flexibility.
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What is at the moment? Some days, you're going to be more tired than others.
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It's just nice to have a plan, something to fall back on.
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I love hearing that your fiance is stepping in and that conversation. That's so helpful.
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I can relate to that. My husband right now is at the store getting things for
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our dinner tonight, knowing that we're recording.
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But I will, I will say there is a tool that I use that could help other people.
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And I have an app, and it's called Cozi, C-O-Z-I. I've had it for years.
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That is something that all of the family members have access to because it's a family account.
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So what I've done is I've put all of the recipes or the way that I make things
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into the recipes portion and you can select it for the dinner on like a calendar.
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And so from that, you can also make it into a shopping list.
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So I can click, click, click, and I have my things in there.
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You can even add things from a website, just copy and paste the URL and it will
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compile it for you into a list and a recipe.
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So that has helped because he has that, that list.
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He doesn't have to ask me as much. I already have it on there.
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He can look it up on his phone and he, or maybe he stops at the store on the
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way home and he knows already that's my list.
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So everyone has the list. If
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you stop at the store, you got to look at the cozy list. Look at the list.
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Yeah. I use, I use one called plan to eat and it's very similar and I love it.
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I'll put the, I've got a referral link. I'll put that in the show notes as well,
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but it's the same kind of thing where it will import anything and we can just
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like plan the recipes. There's like a queue.
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And what I like about it is it spits out a grocery list so I can just throw it in there.
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Right. But there are times when I'm literally Googling.
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I have shoe leather,
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Stale potato chips, a carrot and ground beef.
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Show me recipes.
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And I'm not ashamed to say that out loud because that is just the way life rolls sometimes.
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My name is Karen Shatafian, and I am a shameless coffee addict,
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an empowerment coach for women, and my love language is authenticity.
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Cheers. You guys, I feel like what you both just talked about right now is a
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hot freaking tip. listeners, am I wrong?
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I mean, okay. And granted, I'm not the most like technologically advanced person,
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but this is new to me that there is an app out there, especially the cozy app.
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Like so everybody, all the people are in on the app. All the people can see
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what's going on because you know what I have?
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Guess what? I have a fricking email folder full of emails.
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No, no, no, no.
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I do have Pinterest though. I do love me my recipes on my Pinterest board.
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Well, I don't know if cozy does this, but plan to eat like you could literally
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like cut and paste your email of like whatever it is, quesadillas, whatever.
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And then you just plop it in there and it imports it for you.
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Like it'll do a bulk import and do all that.
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And mine's similar to what Lisa has. Like my husband has it on his phone.
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So when I get my shit together and I have stuff planned, like he can kind of
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do the same thing. I know that there's ones out there that are like,
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you just like putting the contents of your freezer and all that, and they can like...
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You know, suggest meals,
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That's just like next level. Like I don't know that that's ever going to be
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me in my life, but I do know that just having this has been like a freaking
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game changer for me. So yeah, absolutely.
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Yes. We'll have LinkedIn in the show notes. Mine does push out a grocery list as well.
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Once you select the grocery list, it'll pop into there and you can check off
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the things you already have.
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So yeah, that was a game changer for me. People don't have to ask me anymore, what's for dinner?
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We go, it's on what?
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Cozy.
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That's the dreaded question for sure. And then another thing you've gotten me back into is sourdough.
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When I first started talking to you about this, I was like, this girl's crazy.
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There's no freaking way I have time to do sourdough.
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Didn't we give that all up after the pandemic for the love of God?
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But it is so much healthier to eat sourdough anything, especially when it's homemade.
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I must say that the last few weeks I've epic failed on my sourdough because
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my husband had surgery and I had the flu.
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And so the sourdough has been in the fridge and I finally just gave up on my
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discard and threw that out.
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But I know that soon it will be time to take that little baby out because Lisa
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has given me some amazing tips about different things and I've really enjoyed it.
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I've made bread, crackers, sticky buns cinnamon rolls blueberry muffins pretzels
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and bagels so far and lisa knows this i always tell everyone the only drama
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in my life i want is my sourdough starter and that's it.
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Yeah i love how easy it really is i don't even measure everything out with all
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the cups and measures and all of this it's so forgiving with the sourdough i
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just stick my mixing bowl on the scale and i just start dumping in the right
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amount of grams and reset.
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And I measure out the water, for instance, hit the reset button,
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measure the flour and so on, like four, five ingredients, tops,
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and it's just done. Mix it up. And I don't have to use the mixer.
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I don't have to use a bunch of equipment. It's just one little space on my counter.
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Takes the challenging part out of it.
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Yeah. I mean, when she was first telling me about that and she's like,
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oh, and you need a kitchen scale.
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Like I was like, oh, no, no, no. But I have to say, I think the kitchen scale
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is a very underrated kitchen tool.
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I was like, oh, this is going to be epic. But I love it because it makes,
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I mean, with baking, you have to be really precise. And I've never necessarily
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considered myself a baker because
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I'm the Italian, like just throw a little list or a little of that.
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But with the baking stuff, you have to be more specific. But I have found adding
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that kitchen scale has definitely helped.
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I don't like to have more crap in my kitchen than I need, but I just have like
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a little one and it's been great.
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So speaking of stress-free, let's talk a little bit more about stress-free.
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Can I interject something about sourdough?
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You may. You may. Please. So sorry that I asked you, Mead, that you didn't have
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anything to contribute when it came to sourdough.
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No, no, no. It's okay. I'm going rogue.
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So for those of us, like me, who have never made sourdough, do you have somewhere
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online we can go, Lisa, to walk us through it? Or do you have a recommendation?
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Or can we put something in the show notes that can help newbies like me who
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want to get started doing it?
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Absolutely. We'll put that in the show notes for sure. It's a website that I
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use regularly and she's always updating different recipes for both discard and making your own.
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But if you are lucky enough to know someone with a starter, by all means,
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just ask them for some and use that because that's going to be the quickest,
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most sure method for a starter.
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Lisa gave me, I swear to God, I'm not making this up. It's Scottish starter.
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And that shit is like incredible. I mean, it is sturdy for sure.
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And it's one of the best starters I've ever had.
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I have a friend who was gifted starters from around the world for Christmas.
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And she's like, oh, my German starter.
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And like, that's a little too like United Nations for me. Like that.
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That's so cool though. But it was super cool.
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But I agree. Like you can get them online, but it's a pain in the butt to like
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get them going and all that. And you're going to, it's just going to be too much.
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Just ask. I guarantee you somebody will have it.
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And I love the idea too. I love the idea that I have like starter that Lisa
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gave me and I'm thinking about her when I bake.
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So I think it's a win-win for everybody, but we'll put some stuff in the show notes for that for sure.
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Definitely. I love that. My daughter-in-law gave me mine.
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So it's, it's really fun. You just, you just start sharing it to the family and your friends and.
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And yeah, you do. You think about them when you cook with it.
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So back to stress-free. If someone listening right now is just completely overcooking
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and they want to make it easier, which Karen has indicated loud and clear, and I get that,
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what are three simple changes they can make right now to remove some of this crazy stress?
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First of all, you're going to want to know how much time you actually want to spend on making dinner.
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If it's going to be a quick 30-minute or even 15 or 20-minute dinner,
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know that first so you are finding the right quick way to make something.
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For instance, I try to have a protein, a side, and a salad. Keeping it simple.
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That's the second thing. Like five ingredients or less. And then having a well-stocked
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pantry is really important.
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So I can just walk in there and think, okay, I can make something with pasta.
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I've got some tomato sauce. I can make something with that. And I can go grab
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a protein out of my freezer. Boom.
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It's just trying to keep it simple, keep it easy, and know your capacity by
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the time you want to commit to making that meal.
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So, Lisa, what is your go-to quick, healthy meal that might feel homemade but
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they don't take forever?
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So, I love to use sheet pan dinners because it's one sheet pan.
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I line it with foil so there's not a bunch of dishes.
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You can grab a protein for one side, maybe a vegetable for another.
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And then I've got a salad probably in a bag in my fridge.
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Love it. I love sheep pan dinners.
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Sheep pan dinners are the bomb. And I love them when you have like a bunch of
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veggies like in your fridge that are just kind of random and you don't know what to do with them.
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Throw it on there with like some chicken thighs or some
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pork chops or salmon or like whatever there is
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nothing about a roasted vegetable with a
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little olive oil and salt that I don't love like it's pretty
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hard to screw that up and like she said the cook
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the cleanup is so easy and it's
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boom it's done like and I think I'll have to throw this in the show notes but
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I think I have like a blank canvas sheet pan recipe sheet pan dinner recipe
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rather somewhere because I think the only real trick to it is just the protein
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you use has to be kind of uniform with the veggies but But I'll throw that in the show notes because,
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boy, that is just such a rescue me from takeout kind of last minute meal for sure.
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Absolutely.
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And you can really clean out the fridge like you were saying,
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Lisa. Just clean out the fridge and stick stuff in there.
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And I'm going to take this back to the well-stocked pantry portion because with
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that, you can dress it up, right?
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So maybe you have a jar of artichoke hearts or some Kalamata olives and maybe
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in your fridge you have a wedge of lemon and you just kind of give it a quick
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spritz and add a few little things,
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just that added dress up to make it elevated a little bit more without having to do a lot of work.
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Can we just talk for a second about the well-stocked pantry,
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like what are 10 things, or maybe that's too many, but five to 10 things that
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need to be in our well-stocked pantry?
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That's a really good point.
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I like to have definitely pasta and definitely rice.
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Those are two pretty critical elements that you can just grab and really have
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a nice side dish or in addition to the main.
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So from there, I like to have a couple of different soups,
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like our cream of celery or cream of chicken soup, some different tomato sauces
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that you might like, sometimes, you know, roasted or just plain sauce or roasted tomato or something.
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And a couple cans of vegetables that your family likes just in case.
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We prefer frozen, so it might be not a pantry, but it might be the freezer where
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you have some different frozen veg.
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The other thing I like to think about is some good spices.
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And so that might be just as simple as garlic powder, onion powder,
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some chili powder, maybe paprika.
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And from there, you can elevate a lot of flavors. some roasted red peppers.
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And I kind of went the Mediterranean style when I added the Kalamata olives
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and the artichoke hearts, but they really do add a lot of flavor and it looks
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really nice when you're using those.
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The other thing I really like to do that I think is kind of a hidden trick is
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Trader Joe's is the bomb, right?
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And they have really good canned goods. And And.
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There are so
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Many times when I'll grab like a can of something for Trader Joe's and I can
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make a quick and easy meal.
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Like I was there today and they have like eggplant with roasted garlic in a
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can or they have like beans that are, you know what I mean?
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And so I like to have a few of those things in my cupboard because that often
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kind of starts a meal. I mean, like you can make an easy pasta or whatever.
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Oh, I'm going to add some bouillon or some type of way to make a broth because
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I usually have a beef, a chicken and a veg and that way you can just really flavor it up.
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That could be a broth, it could be just a little scoop of that and that's a nice addition.
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The other one you mentioned that I don't want to roll over because it's so helpful is an Instant Pot.
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I swear to God, that thing is magic in an appliance.
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It is, what I love about it is that it makes an impossibly long dinner manageable.
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And sometimes my Instant Pot is the only thing standing between me and takeout.
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And I'm sure you have some secrets, Lisa, but oh my God, I love that.
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Like, that's what I need on my desert island is my answer.
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Absolutely. I use it all the time. Just yesterday, we visited my mom and she
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wanted to make something in her, you know, for dinner that was going to take forever, stroganoff.
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And I thought, well, if you have some meat in your freezer, and she's like,
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well, yeah, but it was like round steak or stew meat, something tough, right?
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So instead of having to make another
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trip to the store I grabbed that we had
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it already in chunks yeah it was stew meat and I
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was able to just throw that in the instant pot with some broth and in 10 minutes
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that meat was done from there I just made the sauce like you would normally
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just add some mushrooms and finish it with a little sour cream and it was great
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so we had dinner in about 20 minutes.
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Love it. Okay. Now for those of us that have sensitive eaters,
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I'll call them, which is another thing that Lisa and I have bonded about is our kiddos.
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You know, maybe you're cooking for a partner who doesn't like certain foods
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or doesn't have the same tastes.
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We have kids that are picky eaters and that have food issues and texture issues,
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which is always upsetting the apple cart.
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So what are some ideas about how we navigate that without making multiple meals?
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I am not a restaurant chef, I tell my kids.
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That's a great question. I do have one at home still. That is my seventh grader.
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Tonight, my husband and I want to have some fish and he does not like any seafood whatsoever.
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So what I did last week when I made lasagna, I made some in a ramekin.
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So I know that I can just pull that out and warm that up for him.
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And he has there. So if you're making something big like that,
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just pull a little out. No one's going to notice. Stick it in a small ramekin,
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throw it in the freezer for when you're ready, and they can just microwave it.
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That's a hot tip. Lisa, you are dropping some moms here on this episode.
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See what I mean?
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I don't have kids at home, but man, oh man, if I did that. Oh,
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I love that. That's a great idea.
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Yeah, we've even just made, I've made a meatloaf on the side.
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We had a big meatloaf, so I grabbed like, you know, a large meatball size or
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whatever and packed that thing in and cooked in the oven so that all I had to
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do was, you know, thaw that out if he needed a different meal.
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There's a lot of different things that we make that you can do that with.
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So good. So back to your magic apps that I've just learned about here on this
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episode of Drinks with the Girls.
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The closest thing I have to that, I discovered this website called Taste Better from Scratch.
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And the author, Lauren Allen, she sends weekly email.
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Actually, I think it's daily because I think I had to scale back.
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But anyway, she sends a lot of emails to my inbox, which I'm not mad about.
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And she has an app or something. It's not an app, but it's something that I can put these in.
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But it's a little, it has been a little clunky for me. So I haven't been able
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to, I guess, utilize it the way that I probably should have.
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But same, complete with grocery lists, you know, ingredients,
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pretty simple, you know, things like that.
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Let's talk about the common frustration of the grocery shopping.
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And I'm embarrassed to say I just discovered having groceries delivered.
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I mean, I don't know. I think I'm in the dark ages. I know. Even during COVID,
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I've never had any. I know. I know.
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Are you nuts?
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Honestly, I used Tony and I, during COVID, when we would go grocery shopping,
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we used it as like an adventure.
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Like we'd mask up and we'd get all ready.
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And he'd have one cart.
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I'd have one. one was full of food one was full of alcohol sorry i mean i had
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adult children at home with me i mean it was like okay how are we going to get through covid anyway
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It felt like an adventure that's for damn sure no
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i was just gonna say i don't necessarily do the delivery but i do the click
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shop so we can just pull up they put the groceries there because that's the
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thing that i can't stand is the hours that you have to spend in the friggin
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grocery store and i just oh my god So even if you could just pull it up and they put the bags,
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I'm telling you, that has taken years off my life.
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But is your grocery store close to you? Because mine is not.
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Like, it's a haul. I waste 45 minutes just getting to and from the grocery store.
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I mean, for sure. Like, we have one that's like 15 minutes away.
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But when we lived out in the country, like...
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I feel like I've just discovered this thing that I know all y'all have already known about.
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:55.439
I know it. I'm admitting it. But I'm so happy. I'm a happy girl. Yeah.
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But so what are some tips to make grocery shopping faster, easier, or more enjoyable?
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Well, I do love the click list.
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And I missed out on this deal, but a grocery store near me had a half price subscription.
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So it was only $49 for the whole year to get your groceries delivered to your
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house unlimited times, as long as you had an over a $30 purchase.
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And I wanted it really bad. And I happened to be in an area far away with Lisa on an airplane.
00:31:33.776 --> 00:31:35.036
I remember I was like,
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You're saying this. And I'm like, I feel like I remember which airport we were
00:31:39.956 --> 00:31:44.156
stranded in when you made the horrible realization that you weren't going to
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be able to take advantage of it.
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And I missed out on it. But normally it's $100 though.
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But if you think about that, that's huge value of having $100.
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I know I spend $100 on gas for sure.
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And then your amount of time that you're shopping. So I would definitely take
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advantage of that. But there's, I mean, there's other things.
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So I take my youngest son to the store when I do have to shop.
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And I said, okay, we're power shopping.
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You have half the list. I have half the list. Who can get it done faster?
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And so we have a quick little race. Meet at the checkout.
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So good. It helps. Yeah. So I know you've talked before about a mindset shift
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is needed. Can you talk a little bit about that?
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So if it's a really busy or stressful time of the year, like holiday time or
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anything like that, I have had to stop and take a couple of breaths.
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You know, when the parking lot is packed full and you're just looking at all
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the cars thinking, okay, this is going to be a journey.
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So just take a couple of minutes, just take a few breaths and relax and kind
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of just change your mindset and thinking about, all right, I need to put my empathy hat on.
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Maybe I'll buy myself a coffee just to get in that more relaxed frame of mind
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and use my app that I know I already have. It's not a big deal. I can do this.
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So I just can get my calmness on, my empathy for others, because some of the people in the store are,
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are going to be rushing around. Maybe they had a rough day.
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I have to put that empathy hat very, very square on and shop through the store.
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Don't shop mad.
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No, do not shop mad. Oh, the other thing that I look at is how many carts are gone.
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Do you ever do that? No, but that's genius.
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I look at the carts and I think, oh boy, there's five carts left. it's gonna be a while
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Let me do a quick meditation in my car before
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I go in it's a five cart kind of a day I think I.
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Need a coffee that's brilliant they started putting Starbucks in I mean I'm
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not a fan of Starbucks these days but started putting Starbucks in grocery stores
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because I think like you said Lisa you know grab a coffee and then do your shopping
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it's like you're giving yourself a little treat.
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It definitely makes it more enjoyable. It's like a little splurge.
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Yeah, I think that's a good tip.
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Hey there, I'm Lisa Coricella McDowell, your midlife Pacific Northwest princess
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here to guide you in the art of next leveling your life.
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I'm passionate about women's health and wellness in midlife,
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especially for moms parenting kids with unique needs like I do.
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I truly believe we can learn, grow, advocate, and care for the planet while
00:34:50.359 --> 00:34:53.619
taking care of ourselves and our families. And I'd love to help you do the same.
00:34:54.459 --> 00:34:58.019
Les, I'm beyond excited to announce the launch of my new membership,
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It's a space for parents to confidently advocate for their kids,
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build inclusive communities, educate themselves, and find balance and support along the way.
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To find out more about the Empowered Parent Collective, my classes,
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Let's survive and thrive in the messy middle together. Cheers.
00:35:24.059 --> 00:35:27.979
One of the things that Lisa has helped me with as well, and I've talked a little
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bit about this on the podcast, and I know we've got a plan to do a sustainable
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eating episode at some point.
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My family and I personally subscribe to several CSAs.
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We've really enjoyed having local and localish organic, wild-caught,
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grass-fed, and sustainably sourced food. I do a little garden in the summer.
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Lisa, I know you do some things on your little farmlet that wouldn't exactly fly in suburban USA, but.
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What are some
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Tips and tricks for our listeners to eat healthier and balance it with a little fun?
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I definitely agree with you with the CSAs. I'm sure a lot of people have those
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available to them. I would look that up for sure.
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And then there's always a farmless market, especially during the summertime.
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We have a weekly one that we can go and I like to buy the produce that I can't
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grow or is more unusual and definitely supporting the local business.
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I have a farm down the road from me.
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I'm able to order lamb or beef from them any time online and they deliver it to my door on Tuesdays.
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So that's a really nice well blessing
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really I don't have to go out and shop and find something but it's local
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and it's good for you I came across a
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website the other week it's called realmilk.com and we can put that in the notes
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as well but if you put your zip code in they can tell you where to find raw
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milk it's either cow or goat yeah I love that you can make so many things from
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the milk. I've made my own ricotta.
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Again, that'd be one of the creative days, not after work.
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Not on a Tuesday at 6pm.
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And then try a kitchen garden. I mean, it might be even in your kitchen window
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where you just grab a little rosemary start and maybe a little basil start and maybe parsley.
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Put those three pots in your window in your kitchen and just start clipping off of that.
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Just fun little things like that can really benefit a lot. Those are flavor bombs for sure.
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Also, I'm realizing we're throwing around these terms and we probably shouldn't
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assume that everybody knows what they mean.
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So a CSA is community supported agriculture.
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And basically, it's exactly what Lisa is talking about.
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It can be like a local farm that raises, you know, meat and they deliver it.
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It can be a seasonal thing. I have one where they give me a selection of seasonal
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fruits and vegetables and they trade with other local CSAs to make sure that it's really varied.
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So that's definitely a really good way of doing it.
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And the other thing I like about having a CSA weekly is that it gets me to try
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things that I may not try.
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Just, excuse me, it's there and I know I need to use it up. So that's what that
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means. The other one I'm going to recommend if you're in the Northwest,
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but there's a lot of different companies that do this. It's called Oregon Valley Farms.
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And they're local-ish to the area.
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ButcherBox is another one. They're national, but they are a certified B Corp.
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So they put some money back in the planet, which is the only way they're able
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to do that. So I'll put some of those resources in the show notes,
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but you should be able to just Google local CSA to me and it'll come up with a lot of great stuff.
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Lisa, that reminded me of another resource called Imperfect Foods.
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And what they do is they take vegetables and fruits and they even have some
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milk and other items there.
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You'll have to check it out on the website. We can put that in our show notes.
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But that's a way to really also give back because they take those items.
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Maybe they're not perfect.
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Maybe they were cut on an angle.
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Maybe just the shelf life is not the perfect, most round apple.
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So you can get those for a reduced price and they are delivered to your home.
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So I would look them up to see if they are a good service in your area.
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Yeah, I think in some places in the country, it's called Misfit Foods.
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I think it might be the same company, but I'll put that in the show notes for sure.
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That's some good information. Now, let's talk about cooking for one or two people.
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You know, some of us are in the empty nest or some of us are just cooking for ourselves.
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What are some ways to make cooking feel worth it when you're not feeding a bunch
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of people? Because I'm happy to eat cheese crackers and a glass of Merlot.
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So Lisa Potter, give us some hot tips Word
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Well, I found, and I have to relate to this because my mom, she is single and
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she needs to have me come over to help her cook food because it's more enjoyable when you're not alone.
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So my first tip is cook with someone else. That's more fun.
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Visit, open a bottle of wine and just relax and enjoy each other while you're
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cooking. Another thing that I would consider is
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When you do make
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Those large pans, like for lasagna or something big like that, it's okay.
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It's okay to make a large meal, but I cut it into portions or even make them into ramekins.
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Keep that as a freezer meal. Maybe you want one next month.
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That's fine, but you don't have to have the whole pan.
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Just consider, I'm going to make a few meals that are larger and know that I
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have that for later in my freezer.
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Something else that has come across throughout my seasons in my life is a cooking co-op.
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What we did was we got together and
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we had a few families so let's say you have five
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families in the co-op and each family
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makes one meal so let's
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say my meal was chili so I
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would make chili for five families
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and I put that in my freezer on co-op
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day I would bring those five gallon zips frozen and we'd all trade and I'd go
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home with five different meals because they all cooked a different meal so we
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all traded so we now have instead of five gallons of chili I have one and I
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have four other meals so that's kind of fun to trade such
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A good idea
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Yeah I mean I'm trying to think of like a way that you could do that because
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I'm like imagining just like,
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you and Tony having a party and just like cooking stuff.
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But then like, I don't know if you'd ever get to the cooking part because I'm
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picturing like the charcuterie board and the wine pops and everybody's like, why are we here?
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And what do we do? Like, I know that's what I would do, you know?
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But actually, that's another one that we do sometimes. It's an easy one.
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Sometimes I'm like, screw it. I don't feel like cooking.
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I don't want to order takeout. And we do.
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Like a charcuterie
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Board for dinner. Love that. And open a bottle of wine like on a Saturday or whatever.
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And the kids love it because they can pick little things out.
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And that, that's one of my favorite go-tos when I just don't, because frankly,
00:42:27.858 --> 00:42:33.038
like Karen, I could live on charcuterie chocolate and wine and probably some
00:42:33.038 --> 00:42:37.458
good French bread and, and be perfectly happy eating that like for the rest of my life.
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We would literally, we would do that during the pandemic. Again,
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those two big carts we got, we, yeah, we would have charcuterie,
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like we'd lay it out about 4 PM and then, you know, you kind of start there
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and then you just, that's it. That's your meal.
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And that's, it was good. And I didn't have to cook.
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Yeah. Yeah, totally. I love that too. And Lisa and I have also enjoyed Mezzi platters.
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Oh yes, we have.
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Those are the best.
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A little too many.
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I am very well versed in the Mezzi platters. Oh yeah.
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So good. And again, another plug for Trader Joe's. Like, I mean,
00:43:14.898 --> 00:43:18.818
it's just so great and they're reasonable and you can go in there and just grab a bunch of stuff.
00:43:18.918 --> 00:43:22.138
And who doesn't love something on a slab of wood, you know, just saying.
00:43:23.071 --> 00:43:29.071
So before we wrap up, do you have any favorite kitchen tools or gadgets that
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make cooking easier and more fun?
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I know we've talked about the
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scale and the instant pot, and those are definitely some go-tos for me.
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Absolutely. Definitely have to have those. But I'm going to keep it simple again.
00:43:41.851 --> 00:43:44.951
I love a good, sharp knife.
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If you're going to invest in anything in the kitchen, make sure it's a high-quality,
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good, sharp knife that you can sharpen or take it to a carpenter.
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And I know on Wednesdays at Whole Foods, there's a sharpening van out in front
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and I know that I can drop it off, go shop really quick, get my knife sharpened.
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And then on my way out, I grabbed my knife.
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So something that you can do that with to keep very sharp. The other thing is the microplane.
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Love my microplane. I could not live without it.
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I, instead of, you know, chopping or like mincing all the garlic or dirtying
00:44:21.651 --> 00:44:25.711
another tool, like the whole Cuisinart to chop up some garlic,
00:44:25.891 --> 00:44:26.931
something like that is small.
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I love to grab my microplane and I can just grate that garlic right into the bowl or pan.
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You just rub it right on there. It just makes it a beautiful mince.
00:44:38.271 --> 00:44:42.051
Same with ginger, another flavor pop. You just rub that on there.
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A nutmeg, right? When you're making maybe a white sauce of sauce,
00:44:46.731 --> 00:44:47.891
you want to add just that little bit.
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So that's my other favorite. And the lastly is my wooden spoon slash spatula.
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So it's kind of got a spoon, but one of the edge has a corner on it so I can
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get in the corner of the pan and the other side's more rounded.
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So I love that. I use it all the time.
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That's my go-to. You have to send me a link to one of those. That sounds amazing.
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Okay.
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Yeah. And it doesn't, it doesn't scratch any pan because it's not metal.
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You know, it's a nice wooden spoon.
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It's not going to mar up any, you know, your Dutch oven with enamel inside or anything like that.
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And it still works good. Those are my favorites.
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Lisa, this has been so helpful. I know I'm walking away from this episode with
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a lot of new tips that I wasn't even aware of.
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And you know, at 56, that's saying something.
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So thank you. You have given us so many great ideas for making cooking easier and way less stressful.
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Yeah, I'm going to put a bunch of stuff in the show notes. But tell our listeners
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where they can find you and learn more about what you do other than getting
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stranded in airports with me.
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Well, we have a.
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Again, our catering company is Smok Ridge Custom Catering.
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And we have a website available, SmokRidgeCC.com. and that will be in the notes.
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And we also have an Instagram page. So feel free to visit us anytime.
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So my son and I are happy to cook for a small family.
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We've done dinner parties, six to eight people. We've done holiday parties or
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business parties, as well as barbecues in the summer and weddings.
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So we really have a large customer base with very diverse menus and needs.
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So we're ready to meet you where you're at.
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Thank you so much for joining us today. And listeners, thank you for coming
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along on another ride with Drinks with the Girls.
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And if you liked this episode, if you're like me and you learned some new things,
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share it with a girlfriend because there's a sister out there who needs to hear
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some of the things that we talked about today.
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And for a fun idea, why don't you take a picture of you listening to this podcast
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and post it on your socials.
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Hello. Let's get the word out that Drinks With The Girls has some hot stuff happening over here.
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And thank you so much for having me today. I have had so much fun on Drinks With The Girls.
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The other thing we would love for you guys to do is leave us a five-star review.
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We'd love to hear what you think. And also, just hot tip, we got a fantastic review the other day.
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And I'm pretty sure this person meant to leave us five stars but accidentally clicked one star.
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And unfortunately the algorithm like looks at
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enjoying what you're hearing take a minute to leave that five star review for
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us because it really does help our visibility and the algorithm is hungry for
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that so thank you so much everybody for joining us and lisa thank you.
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