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00:00:05.717Lord, we just come to you today. We just pray that you lead this conversation,
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00:00:25.457Lord, we just pray that the Holy Spirit flows, that we get the good news out
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00:00:37.300All right cool so uh this is
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00:00:40.160mine and wesley's like third or fourth time doing this
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00:00:42.940but this is matthew matthew works with us he's also part of
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00:00:56.080just introduce yourself a little bit and kind of tell everybody uh
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00:01:06.480yeah i'm about to be 24 year next
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00:01:26.460man whatever you feel whatever you
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00:01:32.840well i guess so uh i was
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00:01:41.440like 20 about to be 21 had a great job had a nice house you know the whole gig
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00:01:47.420i had a girlfriend all that and it just was like nothing was cool didn't like
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00:01:57.400decided you know what you do i'm gonna
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00:02:02.220go move to my dad so i can drink every day and smoke weed all the time right
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00:02:08.520yeah yeah yeah okay been down that road yeah found out hey that's pretty miserable
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00:02:15.220too diving into porn every day and like just surrounded by everything that you
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00:02:23.340Right. Just miserable every day. All the worldly flavors. All the worldly stuff, yeah. Yeah.
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00:02:25.860It's funny, it was like, I kept...
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00:02:30.877I would go home just to smoke a joint, just to get through work, you know?
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00:02:42.577Man, if you are there, just say, man, because this is not it.
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00:02:49.757And been there. Yeah. And just be crying every day.
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00:02:52.177Every day after work was like, all right, I made it through it.
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00:03:03.457Right. No meaning to life. And so I went to a comedy show. It was like my 23rd birthday, I think.
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00:03:05.957Lived in a moment two years, I think.
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00:03:28.037Honestly, when you go in there, you can feel like the... the misery in there,
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00:03:30.077you know, he said you're there with your dad.
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00:03:32.277Yeah. There was my dad. Okay.
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00:03:37.737And, uh, I ended up almost getting into a fight just cause I wanted to talk,
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00:03:45.177end up getting me that job. And I was that job kind of deal.
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00:03:50.957Gotcha. So I felt the need to tell him that. And then he starts trying to get into a fight with me.
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00:04:01.517They're like they wanted me to cool down I start drinking again and then this random old man,
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00:04:06.057never saw him never met him don't know who he was my dad didn't know who he
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00:04:17.797and hold on can I get my dog real quick yeah go ahead go with him.
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00:04:32.343Sorry, uh, so yeah, he's like, man, uh, I think you're a lot cooler when you don't drink like this.
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00:04:42.403Yeah, I really do feel like it was an angel just walked up to me.
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00:04:49.763And, uh, all of a sudden, man, I just, I just went behind the bar and just started bawling.
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00:04:57.023i'm like not uh not just like you got
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00:05:19.243right and we my dad found me and he took me home i was like dad i just this
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00:05:22.403is not me I can't do this anymore I do not belong here,
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00:05:30.263right and I want to say less than a month later I ended up moving back.
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00:05:36.862I was saving up money to move back. My mom and my stepdad were doing anything they could to help me.
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00:05:40.762They kind of said it was a rescue mission in their mind. Right on.
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00:05:48.842And man, I even like the Lord was so active in this moment because I had $1,200 saved up.
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00:05:55.002I ended up my stepbrother that, well, ex stepbrother I hadn't talked to in like a year.
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00:06:03.022I burned all, all i had 1400 it
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00:06:05.882burnt all of it one night oh man one night
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00:06:11.882and i'm like well crap i'm screwed again
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00:06:15.562like i'm it's gonna take me a whole nother month to save up that money and i
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00:06:22.522didn't tell my mom or nothing and then this randomly like a week later uh this
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00:06:27.182guy texts me about a motor that i had bought motor and transmission i bought
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00:06:35.242Wow. He calls me about it.
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00:06:40.802Like, man, can I come pick it up? I'll just give you the cash for it to your
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00:06:42.282grandpa. It was on my grandpa's property.
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00:06:48.642She's like, man, he had $1,200 for it. Or he was $1,400. He gets it to his shop
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00:07:02.922Wow. Just, you know. The divine intervention.
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00:07:07.562Yeah, talk about it. Yeah. No reason I should have been able to make it.
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00:07:12.802No reason that he should have texted me about that. No reason he should have paid that much.
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00:07:17.022Right. But it worked out. And then I ended up moving like the next week.
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00:07:22.449Yeah, that's pretty cool, man. I mean, that's, I don't know.
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00:07:26.229I don't know what I can say to that to add to it, but, like, that's amazing.
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00:07:30.689And it's, you're sitting here telling this story, and I'm thinking about the
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00:07:34.169stuff that, you know, all the stuff that I've been through and the ways that,
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00:07:37.269like, you're, like, they're thinking, like, everything's coming to an end.
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00:07:46.269And isn't it funny how the littlest
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00:07:52.789that stuff you know what i mean like the littlest thing that happens and
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00:07:55.909we're like oh man you know this is beating down
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00:08:04.609um i got this bill coming up or or or the brakes going out or the transmission
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00:08:07.829or something like that's going out and you're like oh you just want to like
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00:08:13.209it's so easy to kind of like forget about hey man he pulled me out of there
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00:08:17.989when I didn't even wasn't even following him and doing what he was telling me to do,
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00:08:21.369limit opposite life is when he saves himself.
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00:08:32.389You know for a little bill it's nothing man so I had a little word that I was gonna bring up here and,
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00:08:36.749I'd read it in this other book and it reminded me
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00:08:49.449at the bar right you're like uh this stranger that i've never met come up to
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00:08:52.229me i was like hey man i feel like you're a lot cooler when you're when you're
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00:08:57.209not drinking you know and you're just like who is this guy you know but like
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00:09:02.489you said you thought he was an angel so john 644.
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00:09:09.592And it's not one i hear a lot um no one can come to me unless the father who
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00:09:16.212sent me draws him and i will raise him up at the last day so nobody comes to
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00:09:20.272comes to god unless they're drawn by the holy spirit you know like unless unless
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00:09:27.312I had in my mind i was thinking about that
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00:09:33.112you kind of you look at people on a
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00:10:03.032lost because they're not being maybe they're not being drawn at that point you
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00:10:06.292know they're they're they're living through whatever it is that they're living through,
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00:10:13.032and um and they don't even have that feeling or that urge or or recognize it
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00:10:17.212maybe you know it's just something to think about i don't know it was word that
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00:10:21.832was given that was given to me and i felt like it kind of fit with that story
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00:10:24.412like maybe that was that instance where,
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00:10:29.972he was saying like hey he's sending he's sending somebody to draw you out of
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00:10:34.932that you know what I mean oh yeah it's crazy to think about the whole universe
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00:10:37.212she was a little right like.
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00:10:46.154Yeah. Yeah, dude. I mean, you meet an old guy in a bar, you know what I mean? Yeah.
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00:10:50.794You know, an old dude in a bar, and that kind of started the catalyst of you
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00:10:55.894Yeah, man, that's interesting.
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00:11:00.374So we've been talking, we've been riding together a lot. You know,
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00:11:02.454all three of us work together, by the way.
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00:11:06.394But so we've been riding together a lot, and, you know, we kind of keep the topic on God.
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00:11:09.454And uh you know we have our little fun throughout
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00:11:12.474the day too stupid little goofy jokes and stuff but
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00:11:18.234like we uh we always uh try to turn it back to god or start it off with god
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00:11:24.794in the first place and um so a little bit of what we've been talking about me
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00:11:29.114and wesley we kind of talked about last week too was like devil deliverance
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00:11:32.154and stuff like that because i went through that and um Um,
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00:11:36.554so you went to Bruce's church, you went to Bruce Highland Ministries.
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00:11:40.754Um, are you, are you willing to talk about that at all?
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00:11:44.874Uh, yeah, we can talk about it. You don't have to. Okay. I mean,
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00:11:47.594if there's anything that you kind of want to keep under the,
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00:11:49.114you know, keep to yourself or whatever.
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00:11:52.534I mean, obviously you can do that, but whatever you feel comfortable talking about.
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00:11:56.774How was it? Uh, it was a different experience. I know that.
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00:12:03.314I know it was a different experience because it was definitely different for me. no I've been to.
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00:12:09.129I've been to a lot of big churches, but I will say this is, I mean,
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00:12:15.749there was a small little conference room that holds like maybe 40 people max.
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00:12:21.169Right. I get in there and there's like, there's like nine people.
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00:12:27.989Right. And there's just like, as soon as I get in there, you can tell there's a, you can feel it.
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00:12:30.889It's a different experience. Yeah, absolutely.
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00:12:33.849I mean, I felt him like that before.
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00:12:40.249But not as strong as it was like not in that capacity. God was definitely moving, right?
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00:12:45.929Yeah, no, it was definitely like, as soon as I, I kind of introduced myself.
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00:12:50.329It was a little awkward at first, you know, cause I just kind of walked up a
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00:12:52.349hotel to go to church. Right.
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00:12:58.869Uh, I kind of break it down. I'm like, Hey, it's like, do we do this 30 minute prayer?
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00:13:04.169And man, as soon as I sat down, I was just like tears started coming out.
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00:13:08.229Cause, the lord is just like it's so
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00:13:11.089awesome when you're you're praying and he talks more
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00:13:13.949than you do right because i think that's probably
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00:13:18.849most time when we pray we get our little five minutes like hey here's what my
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00:13:24.629problems are you you work on that right and i all right let me know when you're
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00:13:32.529done with that okay right yeah if you were willing to listen man he just kept building me up and.
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00:13:39.609Matthew, the mighty warrior of God, that's what he's calling me over and over.
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00:13:42.709I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
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00:13:45.729Right. Yeah. Yeah.
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00:13:52.443So yeah i mean that 30 minutes they were just like in my chest was so like it
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00:13:57.743was so hot and everything like i closed my eyes and i felt like i was the only
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00:13:59.523is me and him there's nobody else,
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00:14:04.663even though people are kind of like they're hooting and hollering and like yeah
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00:14:11.263it's it's a wild experience right yeah it's um and like so when i went it was
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00:14:16.583it was for a conference thing that he had. It was a Fallen Angel Conference.
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00:14:22.523The church, I said Bruce Hines Ministries, but the church is actually the Church
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00:14:25.663of One Accord in the Colony, Texas. If anybody is interested,
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00:14:29.003I would definitely recommend going and checking it out.
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00:14:34.203Even if it's a little bit of a draw, it's Saturday nights. It was, what, 630 to 9?
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00:14:38.483Basically, I think it was. If you want to get there for the prayer,
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00:14:42.603which I would definitely recommend, because Lord, I think that was him.
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00:14:44.783He's just setting it up to wreck you. Yeah.
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00:14:49.223But yeah, you get there at 6, and then it ended, it really ended at like 8.30.
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00:14:54.123Okay. But everybody's got, you know, chats and all that, you know,
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00:14:56.943normal. That's the normal church stuff. Right on.
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00:15:00.943Service was like two to two and a half hours, somewhere around there.
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00:15:04.403And I would recommend going early, too, because, I mean, I went early,
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00:15:07.523and they were in there praying whenever I went to that conference, man.
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00:15:12.343And you can definitely feel the anointing moving through there. it's a.
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00:15:17.805I will say this uh if you've never been to any most likely
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00:15:22.565you've never been to anything like it but if you haven't um go in with an open
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00:15:27.285mind and just and just be willing to receive the lord and and he's gonna move
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00:15:30.745and he's gonna do what he does um and bruce will tell you he's got you know
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00:15:35.265it's not bruce that's doing anything it's it's the it's god moving and um and
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00:15:36.565i can definitely to attest to that.
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00:15:45.565I would say I had to pray like, Lord, let me know what, let me let me see what
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00:15:48.125is you in here. Because it's crazy.
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00:15:52.445It's not going to be like any church service I've ever been to. No, absolutely.
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00:15:59.965It was so awesome, but it made me upset that like every church I've been to,
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00:16:01.865I've never seen any movement like that.
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00:16:07.845I'm like, why are we capping God Like, right.
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00:16:13.245Thanks, Matt. Thanks, Matt. Yeah, dude, absolutely, man, because you just confirmed
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00:16:15.205everything Wesley was talking about last week.
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00:16:18.625When we get these up, Wesley, we didn't try to make sure we put last week's
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00:16:22.905up in front of this one so that people hopefully will get them in order.
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00:16:26.205But, yeah, that makes me happy, man.
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00:16:30.865You just literally attested everything that me and Wesley were talking about
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00:16:35.985last week, and he was – I was telling him to keep going. I was telling him to
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00:16:38.065keep going, but he can keep me stopped.
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00:16:41.125He was like, no, no, because I'm going to rant. I was like, dude, rant.
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00:16:44.705Let it out, man. Let the Holy Spirit flow because I feel like you're saying
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00:16:47.585what needs to be said, dude. He was really going at it.
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00:16:52.325He was saying the same thing. He's like, dude, why are we putting a cap on God?
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00:16:56.185Like, why? Why? Why? When you go to church, like, it's just...
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00:17:01.823When you go to a church where God's moving and then you go to just any other
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00:17:05.823church, you're like, every other church is kind of like, what are we doing?
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00:17:07.203They're kind of doing the same thing.
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00:17:10.923You know what I mean? It doesn't matter what, whether it's Baptist or Pentecostal
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00:17:14.163or whatever. If you go to some of these places and you're like,
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00:17:17.763it's the same thing with a different label, you know?
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00:17:21.623And like, Wesley was kind of going on about that.
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00:17:28.403Like, why are we putting a cap on God? Why are we not doing what the scripture says to do? You know?
00:17:29.563 -->
00:17:34.343Well, man, it's like any old church. And you can guess, like,
00:17:34.483 -->
00:17:36.803perfectly what this schedule is going to look like.
00:17:37.483 -->
00:17:42.503Yeah. There's probably going to be somebody's going to talk about,
00:17:42.503 -->
00:17:44.423you know, tithing right at the beginning.
00:17:44.843 -->
00:17:47.403There's going to be worship for about 30, 40 minutes.
00:17:48.123 -->
00:17:51.723Preachers talk about two hours, and then we go home. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:53.843 -->
00:18:00.663You cannot put a schedule on God no you can't man I've tried so many times he
00:18:00.663 -->
00:18:04.703does not work on our schedule no he does not absolutely,
00:18:06.083 -->
00:18:12.823Wesley I'm not trying to poke the bear per se but like I want to hear from you
00:18:12.823 -->
00:18:18.123I want to hear from you about it man because you were speaking some good stuff last week,
00:18:20.403 -->
00:18:24.843well I mean and I don't know, man, what you want me to say about it?
00:18:27.823 -->
00:18:33.343Just a little reason, because you were talking about fivefold.
00:18:34.343 -->
00:18:37.343Yeah, you were talking about fivefold, and you were talking about,
00:18:37.423 -->
00:18:42.403you know, people, you know, you had made a really good point.
00:18:42.543 -->
00:18:44.583You were like, dude, we got a van that was just sitting in a pew,
00:18:44.743 -->
00:18:48.363sitting on our hands, basically, you know, twiddling their thumbs,
00:18:48.363 -->
00:18:52.603because you only got one guy out there that supposedly has all the answers or
00:18:52.603 -->
00:18:54.743whatever, you know? Um...
00:18:56.566 -->
00:18:59.926I kind of got you fired up, you know, and then not, not serving in the,
00:18:59.966 -->
00:19:02.526in the community and, you know, going out and doing stuff.
00:19:02.706 -->
00:19:05.046It's just, uh, all of it, man.
00:19:06.626 -->
00:19:11.006Yeah. Yeah. Well, as, uh, as like an acts of service guy myself,
00:19:11.026 -->
00:19:15.346you know, I, uh, I, I don't want to sit in a pew.
00:19:15.666 -->
00:19:19.906Like I, so that's why I love serving on quest. Like it's, it's,
00:19:20.106 -->
00:19:23.706I'm using my hands and I'm being, I'm serving.
00:19:23.926 -->
00:19:27.366Like I'm not just sitting there. like and i'm again sitting
00:19:27.366 -->
00:19:30.486there is good sometimes we need you
00:19:30.486 -->
00:19:33.346you need to get word you need to get teaching from people
00:19:33.346 -->
00:19:36.006like uh you know uh you don't
00:19:36.006 -->
00:19:39.146need to just have your own opinion be closed-minded but no
00:19:39.146 -->
00:19:42.286absolutely we we need to take
00:19:42.286 -->
00:19:45.246the teachings and apply them to our life not
00:19:45.246 -->
00:19:48.326just let them sit in a vault in our head like right you
00:19:48.326 -->
00:19:52.026know like that's what i feel like we do and you
00:19:52.026 -->
00:19:54.746know there's there's a lot of churches that don't like i don't
00:19:54.746 -->
00:19:57.466want to sit here and act like we're just bashing people because that's
00:19:57.466 -->
00:20:01.026not what we're doing like there are churches that do homeless ministries and
00:20:01.026 -->
00:20:07.146things like that but what we're saying is that mainstream christianity the ones
00:20:07.146 -->
00:20:14.246you see on the media and stuff is not portraying this it's if it portrayed healing
00:20:14.246 -->
00:20:17.326by casting out demons and stuff they're going to think,
00:20:18.626 -->
00:20:19.746they're sickos.
00:20:21.486 -->
00:20:25.446That's what they think they don't think that's normal they think that's sicko stuff.
00:20:28.046 -->
00:20:34.686I've been to Bruce Hines when I was like 17 and that was awesome it was awesome
00:20:34.686 -->
00:20:42.146it is a like y'all said it is a different feeling being there there is an anointing there so.
00:20:43.558 -->
00:20:50.318100% of them. I know. I've only seen somebody trying to cast out spirits and
00:20:50.318 -->
00:20:53.098demons or whatever name you want to go with.
00:20:53.278 -->
00:20:56.898But like only twice.
00:20:57.418 -->
00:21:05.118And it's never been, well, three times now, but it's always like in a back room,
00:21:05.118 -->
00:21:07.698like we're going to be real secretive about it.
00:21:08.338 -->
00:21:12.498Yeah. And I'm like, and what was it? Paul, Jesus.
00:21:12.498 -->
00:21:16.178I mean the the lady who kept predicting
00:21:16.178 -->
00:21:19.198the future with paul he just said demon be gone
00:21:19.198 -->
00:21:22.078right like right right on the street yeah
00:21:22.078 -->
00:21:24.938yeah but like we have
00:21:24.938 -->
00:21:27.738all this power living within us i mean it literally
00:21:27.738 -->
00:21:30.778said we have the spirit that rose jesus from
00:21:30.778 -->
00:21:34.318the dead living within us right and i've
00:21:34.318 -->
00:21:37.738seen it twice yeah but
00:21:37.738 -->
00:21:41.418i've been going crazy yeah right yeah i
00:21:41.418 -->
00:21:47.718mean i'm dude i'm 39 years old um and i hadn't seen it until you know i was
00:21:47.718 -->
00:21:51.61839 years old you know what i mean and but for the most part never really heard
00:21:51.618 -->
00:21:56.038of it like when people would talk about you know i've heard like over the last
00:21:56.038 -->
00:21:58.318year or two people talking about deliverance and i was like.
00:21:59.681 -->
00:22:02.661What does that mean like you know i'm like like you're like
00:22:02.661 -->
00:22:05.561elbow and then they say what are they talking about you
00:22:05.561 -->
00:22:08.661know i don't i don't i don't know what that is you know and um
00:22:08.661 -->
00:22:11.321now i do because i've experienced it you know and i've
00:22:11.321 -->
00:22:17.701experienced it for myself and it's there's so many deeper levels to it too you
00:22:17.701 -->
00:22:23.401know it's like um and i'm not gonna get into all that because i'd probably confuse
00:22:23.401 -->
00:22:28.001everybody but like there's so many levels to it as far as deliverance goes and
00:22:28.001 -->
00:22:30.161you know we You know, somebody who's like, you know,
00:22:30.961 -->
00:22:35.141went through deliverance for 10 years, you know, to get free of everything, you know.
00:22:35.321 -->
00:22:40.461And it's constantly, because of the world that we live in, it's an ongoing battle.
00:22:40.781 -->
00:22:44.101You know, it's one of those things where sometimes, you know,
00:22:44.861 -->
00:22:51.361people act like, well, believers don't, they can't get a demon.
00:22:51.601 -->
00:22:53.361You know what I mean? They can't have spirits.
00:22:55.281 -->
00:22:59.161And that's a dangerous belief. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?
00:22:59.221 -->
00:23:02.581That's a dangerous belief to, to, to, to run around and think,
00:23:02.701 -->
00:23:06.521well, because I go to church on Sunday and maybe on Wednesday night, you know, and, uh,
00:23:06.861 -->
00:23:11.801you know, flip through a Bible that, that, that all these other influences that
00:23:11.801 -->
00:23:17.061I'm allowing and all these other doors and windows that I'm opening aren't letting something in.
00:23:17.241 -->
00:23:23.101You know what I mean? No, man, we got a, you got a grenade in your pocket at all times. Absolutely.
00:23:23.801 -->
00:23:26.821100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah like he
00:23:26.821 -->
00:23:29.621revealed that to me today like i thought
00:23:29.621 -->
00:23:32.881you were talking about your phone yeah your phone oh yeah
00:23:32.881 -->
00:23:36.121okay i'm sure can you open with that just
00:23:36.121 -->
00:23:42.541getting on youtube and scrolling and facebook you mean even ads on stuff i mean
00:23:42.541 -->
00:23:48.781yeah people constantly trying to grab you well they don't i don't know they
00:23:48.781 -->
00:23:55.481don't even probably realize it but they are literally letting demons into your mind, into your space.
00:23:56.961 -->
00:23:58.601Yeah, 100%, man.
00:24:00.421 -->
00:24:02.741Like, I've even, you know...
00:24:04.011 -->
00:24:07.351Been reading up on stuff and it's like you know just even being
00:24:07.351 -->
00:24:10.011careful who you let lay hands on you when they
00:24:10.011 -->
00:24:12.971pray man because if you do let somebody lay
00:24:12.971 -->
00:24:16.391hands on you and and pray for you and they're they're they're
00:24:16.391 -->
00:24:20.351battling stuff and they're not really walking you know the way that uh if they're
00:24:20.351 -->
00:24:25.471not really walking with christ and then that can that can open the door if you're
00:24:25.471 -->
00:24:33.251protecting if you're not protecting yourself you know um i'll just it's it's it's it's a,
00:24:33.951 -->
00:24:38.771we we battle not with flesh and blood but with principalities of darkness you
00:24:38.771 -->
00:24:45.411know what i mean and it's like man dude that's we we're talking about it this
00:24:45.411 -->
00:24:49.211week man everything everything that's in the bible just keeps getting confirmed
00:24:49.211 -->
00:24:52.431over and over especially the more the scales get removed from your eyes,
00:24:52.571 -->
00:24:55.991you know, and you start to kind of wake up and see what's going on.
00:24:56.831 -->
00:25:00.411It's just everything, everything is just confirmed, you know,
00:25:00.491 -->
00:25:03.531it's, this is a manuscript to live by.
00:25:03.811 -->
00:25:08.391You know, he, he, he gave us the rules right here, you know, and it,
00:25:09.584 -->
00:25:14.284and i've been ranting about it lately but i'll rant about it again he doesn't say,
00:25:15.264 -->
00:25:20.504you can do this or you can do that he says they shall do this they shall do
00:25:20.504 -->
00:25:24.504that they shall cast out demons they shall speak in tongues you know they shall
00:25:24.504 -->
00:25:28.704be able to handle snakes without being harmed and drink poison without being
00:25:28.704 -->
00:25:31.624harmed so they shall heal the sick and.
00:25:32.964 -->
00:25:36.084And i think people they hear they're handling snakes
00:25:36.084 -->
00:25:38.824and you know there's churches that do that and i'm not bashing any
00:25:38.824 -->
00:25:42.304churches that practice that or whatever um
00:25:42.304 -->
00:25:44.984but if we go back all the way to
00:25:44.984 -->
00:25:50.644genesis when he's talking about snakes and i'm saying you know i believe that
00:25:50.644 -->
00:25:54.404that's kind of the reference that he's making there is like he's talking about
00:25:54.404 -->
00:25:59.184you will be able to to handle these demons without being harmed by them because
00:25:59.184 -->
00:26:02.884you're running with the authority of God that God gave us over them.
00:26:03.004 -->
00:26:04.644Does that make sense? Yeah.
00:26:05.604 -->
00:26:10.924Yeah. I'm not saying go out to your yard and pick up a rattlesnake,
00:26:11.004 -->
00:26:14.164you know, uh, or, or, or, or a coral snake.
00:26:14.264 -->
00:26:19.004That's probably not, you know, I'm not saying God can't protect you from that,
00:26:19.044 -->
00:26:22.284but I'm, I'm, I'm saying that's not, I don't believe that's what he's talking about.
00:26:22.464 -->
00:26:26.084You know, I think, you know, if he satan was
00:26:26.084 -->
00:26:29.344satan was a serpent you know what i mean you know
00:26:29.344 -->
00:26:32.224often it's the people you
00:26:32.224 -->
00:26:36.844trust the most or are the closest with they're gonna hurt you the most if you're
00:26:36.844 -->
00:26:42.904not right paying attention right absolutely yeah who you let into your circle
00:26:42.904 -->
00:26:46.264you know we hear it all the time you know the top five people you hang around
00:26:46.264 -->
00:26:51.044um that that's gonna be who you become you know and um,
00:26:51.704 -->
00:26:54.204it's the truth it just is the truth
00:26:54.204 -->
00:26:59.664you know and and he does you know god tells us he says you know to to.
00:27:01.140 -->
00:27:04.860Set yourself apart from that. Set yourself apart from the world.
00:27:05.220 -->
00:27:09.680You know, you can't, you can't, you get to a point when you realize that it's
00:27:09.680 -->
00:27:14.540really true that you can't walk with one foot in and one foot out. You got to be all in.
00:27:15.020 -->
00:27:19.560He wants all of us. He wants 100% of us. He doesn't want, he doesn't want 89.
00:27:19.760 -->
00:27:22.640He doesn't want 99%. He wants 100%, you know?
00:27:23.900 -->
00:27:29.540Yeah. It's a discipline thing. To be a true Christian, it can get lonely sometimes because.
00:27:31.520 -->
00:27:35.060Yeah that's the path is narrow and
00:27:35.060 -->
00:27:38.860straight man yeah right uh that's
00:27:38.860 -->
00:27:41.700why that's been a big thing in my life recently he's just
00:27:41.700 -->
00:27:44.600revealing like jesus had his
00:27:44.600 -->
00:27:47.640three that he told everything and he had his 12 he
00:27:47.640 -->
00:27:50.720was around all the time right just because
00:27:50.720 -->
00:27:53.500you got a bunch of people that are around you doesn't mean
00:27:53.500 -->
00:27:56.400they all need to know doesn't mean they need to know everything
00:27:56.400 -->
00:27:59.080that's right yeah um jesus like you
00:27:59.080 -->
00:28:02.220said i mean he had what was it john uh it
00:28:02.220 -->
00:28:09.580was john james and peter right yeah that i mean that he would that that's what
00:28:09.580 -->
00:28:13.720he would get he would intimately open up to them he wouldn't necessarily and
00:28:13.720 -->
00:28:18.640and maybe not all three of them at the same time you know what i mean um you
00:28:18.640 -->
00:28:21.420know you have you have certain people in your life that they can.
00:28:22.655 -->
00:28:25.475They can hear what you have to say or maybe what you're going through and
00:28:25.475 -->
00:28:28.315what you're bowing and um you know like maybe
00:28:28.315 -->
00:28:31.315if i went and told wesley about it wesley's not gonna judge me
00:28:31.315 -->
00:28:34.095he's not gonna condemn me for it but you go to somebody else in
00:28:34.095 -->
00:28:37.175your life and tell them that and they're gonna look at you a little bit different you
00:28:37.175 -->
00:28:40.235know like well why are you uh why are
00:28:40.235 -->
00:28:43.715you struggling with that you know like it's not you had it all together well
00:28:43.715 -->
00:28:48.855none of us have it all together you know but but because we're human that's
00:28:48.855 -->
00:28:54.655human nature you know um and and i think this is kind of what it's talking about
00:28:54.655 -->
00:28:57.555you know what jesus said he had those three because,
00:28:58.235 -->
00:29:04.075he can confide on them and they're all in you know what i mean they're all in
00:29:04.075 -->
00:29:07.195and they're like yeah okay got you you know they're gonna they're gonna work
00:29:07.195 -->
00:29:10.015they're gonna they're gonna take what he says and.
00:29:11.975 -->
00:29:13.875Not look differently about it.
00:29:15.035 -->
00:29:19.515Yeah, I mean, because I can't remember the exact scripture, but he only told
00:29:19.515 -->
00:29:22.455those three that he was sad he had to die on the cross.
00:29:23.555 -->
00:29:29.035Before he had to go, because not everybody is even just emotionally mature enough to handle that.
00:29:29.615 -->
00:29:34.635Right, yeah. He told all the 12, and they're probably going to try to get in
00:29:34.635 -->
00:29:38.415his way and stop this happening. Yeah, exactly, yeah.
00:29:39.195 -->
00:29:45.515Yeah, they might try to save him from the prophecy that's supposed to be fulfilled,
00:29:45.535 -->
00:29:48.615and then they would end up messing everything up, you know?
00:29:49.275 -->
00:29:54.635Yeah, and then it's like even your family, because he said, again,
00:29:54.715 -->
00:29:56.455I can't remember the scripture, but I know the story.
00:29:57.195 -->
00:30:00.615He said your mother and brother, somebody came up to him, your mother and brother
00:30:00.615 -->
00:30:05.935are outside, and he said, my mother and brothers are in here with me.
00:30:05.935 -->
00:30:11.575So he said, who are, who are my mother and brothers? Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:12.618 -->
00:30:15.498They're all living for god then that's your mother and
00:30:15.498 -->
00:30:18.718brother you know it's like
00:30:18.718 -->
00:30:22.358you gotta really like you gotta change how you think completely yeah
00:30:22.358 -->
00:30:25.138100 yeah it's a
00:30:25.138 -->
00:30:28.038discipline thing man and i'm not saying that i haven't you
00:30:28.038 -->
00:30:32.438know that i have it all figured out uh but i'm definitely trying to rebuild
00:30:32.438 -->
00:30:36.938discipline you know i'm rebuilding discipline and and and and working towards
00:30:36.938 -->
00:30:41.978the discipline that i never that i lacked before you know yeah now i can only
00:30:41.978 -->
00:30:45.498tell you say what I have learned, not what I have perfected.
00:30:45.938 -->
00:30:47.358Exactly. Right. Yeah.
00:30:47.938 -->
00:30:51.798100%. If we were perfect, we God. Right.
00:30:56.891 -->
00:31:03.611Wesley, I'm pulling you in, man. I'm pulling you in.
00:31:06.391 -->
00:31:11.511I'm pulling you in. Wesley, you know, you ain't going to sit there and take
00:31:11.511 -->
00:31:15.531everything. I don't want you to feel like you're getting spoke over, man.
00:31:18.031 -->
00:31:23.931No, man, I'm good. I have something to say. I mean, I'll interject.
00:31:24.271 -->
00:31:26.291When she wants me to speak, just let me know.
00:31:26.891 -->
00:31:30.631Dude, I'm ready. I'm telling you I'm ready, dude, because I know when you get
00:31:30.631 -->
00:31:33.591rolling, dude, it's fire. What do you want me to talk about is what I'm saying.
00:31:34.171 -->
00:31:39.011I don't know. I don't let the Holy Spirit flow. Lord Jesus, give Wesley a word.
00:31:39.191 -->
00:31:42.091Give Wesley a word, and when it's time, let him speak it.
00:31:43.671 -->
00:31:49.011Nah, man, I don't plan anything, and that's probably a part of discipline I'm
00:31:49.011 -->
00:31:54.551trying to work on is topics that we need to cover, but sometimes I just like
00:31:54.551 -->
00:31:56.671going in and just letting...
00:31:56.891 -->
00:32:01.611Letting the Holy Spirit flow, man, because then you get these good conversations like this. And, um.
00:32:04.291 -->
00:32:08.391So let's talk about it, dude. Let's talk, I said the word several times, discipline.
00:32:09.191 -->
00:32:13.291And, um, and then doubt to devotion in the name of the podcast.
00:32:13.571 -->
00:32:16.771So like, I mean, what does that mean for you, uh, Matthew? Like,
00:32:16.851 -->
00:32:18.291what are you, what are you, um,
00:32:20.351 -->
00:32:24.271what are you going, like when you, when you hear, well, I mean,
00:32:24.331 -->
00:32:27.211I guess your story just kind of told that, you were living,
00:32:28.151 -->
00:32:32.791kind of like how I was living before like just kind of lost and drinking and
00:32:32.791 -->
00:32:36.531drugs and whatever else and kind of living the wild ways and then.
00:32:38.871 -->
00:32:42.931So I don't know if you would necessarily say you were in doubt but you just,
00:32:43.511 -->
00:32:48.991maybe at a point of not knowing and what does that mean?
00:32:50.571 -->
00:32:52.231What has it been like for you? Yeah.
00:32:53.948 -->
00:32:57.688I would say, I mean, even then, I could feel like, man, there just has to be
00:32:57.688 -->
00:32:59.748something more to life than this.
00:32:59.908 -->
00:33:04.668Because at this point, I don't really, or at that point, it was like,
00:33:04.768 -->
00:33:09.828man, there's not, I'm just waking up to get through the day again.
00:33:10.868 -->
00:33:18.768Yeah. Like, if you have to get, you know, high or drunk every day just so your day is tolerable.
00:33:19.868 -->
00:33:22.948Right. you know that doesn't like uh
00:33:22.948 -->
00:33:26.488that is that's not a life to live you know yeah i know
00:33:26.488 -->
00:33:29.408now i mean i still i'm not pretending like i don't struggle with
00:33:29.408 -->
00:33:36.788lust or i am i'm trying to quit drinking and it has been four months yeah now
00:33:36.788 -->
00:33:40.808i was smoking weed because i was like man you know that's better than drinking
00:33:40.808 -->
00:33:46.788and you know it's a plant and all right and uh i ended up taking edible one night and,
00:33:48.308 -->
00:33:50.188had a full panic attack.
00:33:50.388 -->
00:33:54.868I was having a heart attack because I have like 700 or 800 milligrams of caffeine
00:33:54.868 -->
00:33:56.048every day. It doesn't help either.
00:33:57.168 -->
00:34:00.768Right on. No stones. Yeah.
00:34:02.648 -->
00:34:04.048We're not going to get into that one.
00:34:06.048 -->
00:34:07.108There you go, Jake.
00:34:09.368 -->
00:34:12.508This is probably the least amount of caffeine I consume in a day.
00:34:14.628 -->
00:34:19.568The dr pepper is probably oh he's a he's got one it's 10 30 at night he's drinking the rain,
00:34:21.028 -->
00:34:27.528yes no but uh i'm having this panic attack because i'll freak out and like you
00:34:27.528 -->
00:34:30.988said when everything's going bad you're not thinking hey lord can you help me
00:34:30.988 -->
00:34:35.908right now right i'm thinking because i'm like i think i gotta go to er because
00:34:35.908 -->
00:34:39.428i'm hard to have so my buddy who i was there with He's like,
00:34:39.548 -->
00:34:41.968well, let's just go on a walk because you're having a panic attack.
00:34:42.508 -->
00:34:47.268Right. We're just walking around this midlife. It's probably like midnight.
00:34:48.565 -->
00:34:52.645And all of a sudden, it just gets calm for like a minute.
00:34:53.425 -->
00:34:57.285Yeah. And I'm just looking at him. And I'm like, there's no sounds.
00:34:57.425 -->
00:35:01.205There's no car driving by. I'm convinced I'm in the rapture.
00:35:02.165 -->
00:35:07.405Like, I just. Okay. I was. And got. You're not realizing that it's midnight?
00:35:07.985 -->
00:35:11.845Well, yeah. It's midnight in Willis Point, Texas. So there's nothing going on.
00:35:13.305 -->
00:35:16.985Everything shut down at 8 o'clock. I'm looking at my buddy like, wow.
00:35:16.985 -->
00:35:20.365I'm stuck here with this guy now because
00:35:20.365 -->
00:35:24.445i get high yeah but
00:35:24.445 -->
00:35:27.865that was how he's like that was my sign hey
00:35:27.865 -->
00:35:30.825you need to stop right smoking me
00:35:30.825 -->
00:35:34.025getting out of your mind to avoid the way
00:35:34.025 -->
00:35:38.105he's trying to work on right yeah let
00:35:38.105 -->
00:35:45.525him work you know if you're if because what it revealed to me was that that's
00:35:45.525 -->
00:35:51.105distraction you know and if you're if you're distracting yourself or you're
00:35:51.105 -->
00:35:55.785trying to fill a void with any kind of substance you know because i used to
00:35:55.785 -->
00:35:57.865i used to think the same way like oh well,
00:35:58.705 -->
00:36:04.645i don't i don't like drinking and then looking back i never really liked it
00:36:04.645 -->
00:36:09.945i was just doing it a lot but um i always hated the way it made me feel the
00:36:09.945 -->
00:36:14.385next day and nine times out of ten i the way it made me feel that night,
00:36:14.545 -->
00:36:19.545man, because you get to a point, and I don't know if anybody here has ever been blackout drunk,
00:36:19.745 -->
00:36:24.625but, like, you get blackout drunk, and that's when...
00:36:26.194 -->
00:36:30.314All the spirits that you didn't know were in there end up coming out and regaling
00:36:30.314 -->
00:36:32.434themselves. They manifest.
00:36:33.014 -->
00:36:37.274And then you wake up and you deal with the consequences of that.
00:36:37.714 -->
00:36:42.574And it's like, oh, did I do this? Did I say that to that person?
00:36:42.834 -->
00:36:47.254Did I get in a fight with that person? Or did I, you know, whatever it may be.
00:36:49.414 -->
00:36:53.274And all the ugly stuff comes out that way. And so I was like,
00:36:53.354 -->
00:36:59.634well, I never had that experience from cannabis sake.
00:36:59.934 -->
00:37:03.854And so I was like, oh, well, it's natural. And I even used the excuse,
00:37:04.034 -->
00:37:06.434like, it's natural. It's a plant. God made it this and that.
00:37:06.614 -->
00:37:10.694You do all the things. You jump through all the hoops to justify it.
00:37:13.774 -->
00:37:19.974And he revealed to me, like, hey, you don't need that.
00:37:20.914 -->
00:37:26.414You don't you don't need to consume that to to get the feeling that you're gonna
00:37:26.414 -->
00:37:31.934get from this you know what i mean um once you dive into this why don't you
00:37:31.934 -->
00:37:33.474once you press closer to me,
00:37:34.114 -->
00:37:37.554and i'll make you feel better than i could ever make you feel and
00:37:37.554 -->
00:37:40.434and and and you won't feel stupid you won't you
00:37:40.434 -->
00:37:43.754won't feel lazy you won't you won't get all the all the
00:37:43.754 -->
00:37:46.914effects that come from that and also
00:37:46.914 -->
00:37:50.334it revealed to me that uh that's a
00:37:50.334 -->
00:37:53.134gateway like it's not a gateway like a
00:37:53.134 -->
00:37:56.354gateway drug as people would say like the smoking pot's gonna lead you into
00:37:56.354 -->
00:38:01.334heroin or coke or whatever else it's a portal i guess would be the more appropriate
00:38:01.334 -->
00:38:06.854word to say you're opening a door to let something else in that that is unrighteous
00:38:06.854 -->
00:38:10.434or that's unholy and at that point i was like.
00:38:12.790 -->
00:38:18.310Well that makes it makes sense you know because if you're inebriated and you're um.
00:38:19.110 -->
00:38:24.190Any sort of inebriation is gonna is gonna open a portal and a weakness to allow,
00:38:24.710 -->
00:38:28.730something to come in and take take and take control of you and to consume you
00:38:28.730 -->
00:38:35.390and once that happens what the scripture says it says that that that satan is
00:38:35.390 -->
00:38:40.270like a roaring lion roaming around looking for something to devour you know
00:38:40.270 -->
00:38:42.450what i mean and so if you open that door,
00:38:43.070 -->
00:38:47.230you're letting that lion in and uh that's
00:38:47.230 -->
00:38:49.950uh i think a lot of people they don't want to look at it
00:38:49.950 -->
00:38:53.090like that because they do the same mental gymnastics and
00:38:53.090 -->
00:38:56.130the justifications that that we were guilty of
00:38:56.130 -->
00:38:59.130it's like well at least marijuana is it is
00:38:59.130 -->
00:39:01.810natural you know well i got i got
00:39:01.810 -->
00:39:05.090news for you it's not hot anymore you
00:39:05.090 -->
00:39:08.210know anytime the government gets in control of something anyways
00:39:08.210 -->
00:39:11.050you know but let's not jump down politics but like anytime
00:39:11.050 -->
00:39:14.510the government gets in control of something that's no longer natural it's
00:39:14.510 -->
00:39:18.150all man-made now it's all been so modified but
00:39:18.150 -->
00:39:21.110i'm i'm convinced that even even back
00:39:21.110 -->
00:39:24.150in the day i mean any kind of marijuana was you
00:39:24.150 -->
00:39:28.590know it's it's open to know it's open in a portal to allow a demonic attack
00:39:28.590 -->
00:39:34.790or a spiritual at least some sort of spiritual upset does that make sense and
00:39:34.790 -->
00:39:39.890you're you're you're going farther away from god either in a lab or it's by
00:39:39.890 -->
00:39:43.190the cartel so like neither is that,
00:39:43.810 -->
00:39:48.250very godly at all like no absolutely not yeah.
00:39:48.890 -->
00:39:55.270Um no 100% but yeah I mean I agree with that I agree with what you said cause like uh it's not.
00:39:58.387 -->
00:40:01.247Not because i agree with him because he he convinced me
00:40:01.247 -->
00:40:04.227of that you know he he kind of he kind of convicted me
00:40:04.227 -->
00:40:06.947of it like none of that i mean you know
00:40:06.947 -->
00:40:09.807even if you're not doing it and you're turning around telling other
00:40:09.807 -->
00:40:12.727people well yeah i don't you know that's fine that that's okay because
00:40:12.727 -->
00:40:17.207like at least it's natural like that's not it's not true it's not it's not okay
00:40:17.207 -->
00:40:24.847um and not to condemn anybody but to call out and call up like i would i would
00:40:24.847 -->
00:40:28.927seriously sit down with god and have a conversation about that you know if somebody
00:40:28.927 -->
00:40:30.187is struggling with that because.
00:40:31.497 -->
00:40:39.117Or if somebody is convinced that it's okay and that you can still do that and
00:40:39.117 -->
00:40:40.657be righteous. Does that make sense?
00:40:41.537 -->
00:40:45.957And I know when I was doing that, it was an everyday thing.
00:40:46.077 -->
00:40:50.497I mean, probably, it's probably been about six months since I stopped smoking.
00:40:51.017 -->
00:40:54.797But I know the entire time he was telling me to stop.
00:40:55.897 -->
00:40:59.257And I just would not listen, would not listen. And that was when,
00:40:59.377 -->
00:41:04.877finally, that's when the ER thing happened because he was, he'd gotten down to it.
00:41:05.357 -->
00:41:10.057Yeah. Well, and that was, it's crazy to me because the moments where he strikes
00:41:10.057 -->
00:41:14.077you down, I feel like, all right, well, hey, you care about me.
00:41:15.217 -->
00:41:18.837Absolutely, dude. Yeah, it's the same thing.
00:41:18.977 -->
00:41:23.677It's like, I mean, you guys aren't parents yet, but like, it's the same thing
00:41:23.677 -->
00:41:27.397as like when you have to discipline your kid. You know, if you don't discipline
00:41:27.397 -->
00:41:29.197your kid, it's not you don't love your kid.
00:41:29.597 -->
00:41:35.297You know, you're just letting them run around and make their own decisions and do different stuff.
00:41:35.937 -->
00:41:40.857That's not love. You know, discipline is an act of love.
00:41:41.157 -->
00:41:44.177And I can tell you this.
00:41:44.637 -->
00:41:51.137There have been several times when God has disciplined me and it hurt and it sucked.
00:41:52.217 -->
00:41:57.357And uh but it all ultimately it all all ended out for ended up for the better
00:41:57.357 -->
00:42:01.717and it was it was it was definitely and in the end it was there was there was
00:42:01.717 -->
00:42:08.237a love there um but going through it it pretty much uh it was a painful experience
00:42:08.237 -->
00:42:10.897a lot of times you know and um.
00:42:13.646 -->
00:42:17.386But I'm glad that it happened. It's all the better that it happened.
00:42:19.206 -->
00:42:24.366Yeah, no, I know. Like, he made me sick for a week where I was,
00:42:24.446 -->
00:42:28.826like, getting rashes on my body and just could not do anything.
00:42:30.206 -->
00:42:36.546And I was like. It's funny. I remember reading a story about that in a book somewhere. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:37.526 -->
00:42:41.246I tripled again, you know. Yeah. He learned the lesson. Right.
00:42:41.946 -->
00:42:46.206He was finally like, man, I'm going to leave you here because you're going to talk to me.
00:42:46.846 -->
00:42:47.706We're going to talk about this.
00:42:47.806 -->
00:42:51.586You're not going to keep enjoying me on this. Because I love you. No.
00:42:53.366 -->
00:42:54.206Damn, I'm not leaving.
00:42:57.046 -->
00:43:01.726I'm listening to you. And I'm like, man, that's kind of like...
00:43:02.286 -->
00:43:04.686I'm like, nobody else in my life would do that.
00:43:05.946 -->
00:43:12.146It's crazy in the sounds. No, yeah, 100%. No one else in my life would put up
00:43:12.146 -->
00:43:18.686with all my crap where I'm constantly seeing the love they have for me and just
00:43:18.686 -->
00:43:20.926putting on it every time. Yeah.
00:43:22.186 -->
00:43:26.346Yeah. I was a Christian for, been a Christian for two years,
00:43:26.466 -->
00:43:27.966but really serious about it.
00:43:29.266 -->
00:43:33.046Yeah. Probably less than half of that time. Right. Oh, yeah.
00:43:34.586 -->
00:43:39.486No it's it's like you know we find ourselves we find ourselves stumbling or
00:43:39.486 -->
00:43:41.586or whatever it comes down to a point,
00:43:42.777 -->
00:43:47.397And it's like, you know, and we talked about it, you know, the other day.
00:43:47.757 -->
00:43:51.037It's like you get to a point where it's like enough is enough,
00:43:51.217 -->
00:43:54.957you know, like it's got to be a discipline thing.
00:43:54.957 -->
00:43:58.277And people talk about discipline like, you know, like that's like,
00:43:58.377 -->
00:44:03.637okay, well, you know, all right, no more screwing up. And that's not the point.
00:44:03.757 -->
00:44:08.417That's not the point in discipline. I'm not excusing stumbling blocks,
00:44:08.437 -->
00:44:13.177but at the same time, if you stumble so many times and you just stop getting
00:44:13.177 -->
00:44:17.177back up, that's no longer stumbling,
00:44:17.377 -->
00:44:19.177that's quitting, you know?
00:44:19.437 -->
00:44:23.157And so you got to get to a point where it's like, well,
00:44:24.477 -->
00:44:28.657so if you make a decision every day, every morning, I'm going to get up and
00:44:28.657 -->
00:44:31.337I'm going to do 10 pushups and you skip them on Tuesday,
00:44:31.757 -->
00:44:35.817and then you just stop and don't do them Wednesday and don't do them Thursday,
00:44:36.097 -->
00:44:41.197well, that's not, one, it's not discipline, but two, that's not a stumbling block anymore.
00:44:42.917 -->
00:44:46.677You're quitting. You're giving up. But if you decide, hey,
00:44:46.877 -->
00:44:50.657I'm going to do these every day and something interrupts it one day,
00:44:50.697 -->
00:44:53.137but the next day you're right back down there doing it again,
00:44:53.177 -->
00:44:56.677or hey, I'm going to get in my word every day, and you stop,
00:44:56.877 -->
00:45:00.537something interrupts it, you miss it, you
00:45:00.537 -->
00:45:03.477get in my in your word the next day you know and um
00:45:03.477 -->
00:45:06.477and you just pick up where you left off that's that's
00:45:06.477 -->
00:45:09.257discipline you know discipline is getting to a point
00:45:09.257 -->
00:45:12.817where that doesn't happen where nothing's
00:45:12.817 -->
00:45:17.557gonna interrupt that it's a non-negotiable i'm i'm gonna open my bible i'm gonna
00:45:17.557 -->
00:45:23.417read the word um your date will be ruined if you don't even do it right exactly
00:45:23.417 -->
00:45:29.317you know and so it's like you You got to get to a point where that's the discipline is like,
00:45:29.437 -->
00:45:31.817now it's a non-negotiable.
00:45:32.357 -->
00:45:37.197I'm going to do this. And so if you get to a point where, hey,
00:45:37.357 -->
00:45:40.917you know, say if you're struggling with whatever it may be, you're struggling
00:45:40.917 -->
00:45:45.417with alcohol, get it out and get it away from you. If you're struggling with porn.
00:45:46.694 -->
00:45:49.654Maybe don't go to bed looking at your phone every night you
00:45:49.654 -->
00:45:52.434know what i mean hey yeah plug the phone up
00:45:52.434 -->
00:45:56.194in the living room and uh and get an
00:45:56.194 -->
00:45:59.974alarm clock bro like you know whatever it may be um
00:45:59.974 -->
00:46:02.734get that get get that
00:46:02.734 -->
00:46:05.674out of there you know and sometimes this baby
00:46:05.674 -->
00:46:08.934steps to get to that point but sometimes it's like okay you
00:46:08.934 -->
00:46:11.734got to take drastic changes i was reading you know i said
00:46:11.734 -->
00:46:14.614i think i sent you this book earlier but it's like i was reading in
00:46:14.614 -->
00:46:17.354this book and that's like uh because that's something i'm starting to do
00:46:17.354 -->
00:46:20.574i'm like okay i'm getting really serious about discipline
00:46:20.574 -->
00:46:24.474like not just discipline if i'm gonna discipline my kids i gotta discipline
00:46:24.474 -->
00:46:29.494myself you know and and and i have to make drastic changes so it's like you
00:46:29.494 -->
00:46:33.234get to this one point in this book and it's like you know you end the chapter
00:46:33.234 -->
00:46:38.254and it goes okay action plan it's like go do 10 push-ups,
00:46:40.041 -->
00:46:45.001right now. Don't do it later. Go do it right now. Don't put it off.
00:46:45.521 -->
00:46:49.541Oh, you don't have to take the dog out right this second because you weren't about to take him out.
00:46:50.261 -->
00:46:53.361Go do 10 push-ups. I was like, all right.
00:46:55.301 -->
00:46:58.701I can tell you this. A few weeks ago, if I were to try to do 10 push-ups,
00:46:59.341 -->
00:47:03.341I don't know that I kind of made it to five, but I dropped down on the floor,
00:47:03.361 -->
00:47:06.721and after I went to that deliverance, I told you all that,
00:47:07.461 -->
00:47:10.281I had rheumatoid arthritis since my leg years old
00:47:10.281 -->
00:47:13.341it comes and goes and does all that
00:47:13.341 -->
00:47:16.901well now it's done for like uh ever
00:47:16.901 -->
00:47:21.221since i went to bruce's i got healed of that and it's like usually
00:47:21.221 -->
00:47:25.221if i get down there dude my wrists are burning like and so i don't know if anybody
00:47:25.221 -->
00:47:28.981knows rheumatoid arthritis is an inflammation thing so my wrist would be burning
00:47:28.981 -->
00:47:33.561my finger joints would be burning and stuff like that just trying to do push-ups
00:47:33.561 -->
00:47:38.001got down and knocked out 10 push-ups my wife didn't even realize that that I
00:47:38.001 -->
00:47:40.021did it. She's on the chair feeding the baby.
00:47:40.261 -->
00:47:47.081And I was like, I just did 10 push-ups and like, and, you know,
00:47:47.161 -->
00:47:50.041I'm breathing hard, but like I was able to do it.
00:47:50.441 -->
00:47:54.941You did, yeah. You know? So it's like, so now the goal is.
00:47:56.227 -->
00:48:02.027Or the expectation not not just the goal the goal the expectation the unnegotiable
00:48:02.027 -->
00:48:07.467the non-negotiable is in the morning when i wake up i'm gonna do 10 push-ups
00:48:07.467 -->
00:48:09.847you know what i mean and and and then,
00:48:10.547 -->
00:48:15.587the next day i'm gonna do 10 push-ups and i got i gotta hold myself to that and like,
00:48:16.267 -->
00:48:19.867it's just one of those things like these these what seem
00:48:19.867 -->
00:48:23.247like small changes for some people are drastic changes
00:48:23.247 -->
00:48:26.207so it's a drastic life change now i gotta get up early
00:48:26.207 -->
00:48:29.227enough that i'm gonna do this i'm gonna spend 15
00:48:29.227 -->
00:48:32.087minutes on my face praying to the lord
00:48:32.087 -->
00:48:35.127in the morning i'm gonna spend 10 you
00:48:35.127 -->
00:48:37.927know time to do the 10 push-ups like this the first
00:48:37.927 -->
00:48:40.687thing i'm gonna do before i grab my phone before i drink a cup of
00:48:40.687 -->
00:48:43.727coffee which i don't really drink coffee before i grab an energy drink
00:48:43.727 -->
00:48:46.407whatever you know i'm gonna drop to
00:48:46.407 -->
00:48:49.347the floor i'm gonna do 10 push-ups and then i'm gonna spend 15
00:48:49.347 -->
00:48:52.447message with the lord you know on my
00:48:52.447 -->
00:48:55.787knees or on my face you know and like
00:48:55.787 -->
00:48:58.607you were talking about like and bruce
00:48:58.607 -->
00:49:03.787even said this he's like you know we jump into prayer and and we just want to
00:49:03.787 -->
00:49:06.927we want to start talking and you want to say all the pretty words and you want
00:49:06.927 -->
00:49:12.067to do all the stuff and all the all all the you know lord just thank you father
00:49:12.067 -->
00:49:17.327god for this and that and the other thing all the religious stuff,
00:49:18.167 -->
00:49:22.327and even Bruce was like he goes man sometimes when I pray I sit there for 10
00:49:22.327 -->
00:49:24.307or 15 minutes and don't say a word.
00:49:25.367 -->
00:49:28.487And he's like then I might get two or three words in,
00:49:29.507 -->
00:49:34.867sometimes I don't get any in but usually they're coming to me more than I'm
00:49:34.867 -->
00:49:39.067putting them out does that make sense like you're just spending time with the
00:49:39.067 -->
00:49:43.467father of the universe and that's what prayer that's what we're supposed to
00:49:43.467 -->
00:49:46.027be doing it's not always about,
00:49:49.404 -->
00:49:54.784Getting the words out. And Jesus tells us, he's like, don't be like those hypocrites
00:49:54.784 -->
00:50:00.864in the synagogues and on the street corners, you know, who are praying to the Lord out loud.
00:50:01.484 -->
00:50:07.604But go into your private place, go into your closet and spend time with them, you know.
00:50:08.044 -->
00:50:11.104Because it's not always about everybody else. He's like, if it's about everybody
00:50:11.104 -->
00:50:16.244else hearing you say the perfect words, then I tell you, they've already received their reward.
00:50:16.644 -->
00:50:22.704Yeah. And it's like, wow. Please, Lord. Please, God.
00:50:23.284 -->
00:50:29.604That's right. You know, that's what it's really about. And I say a lot of people
00:50:29.604 -->
00:50:33.744have missed that because there's, I recognize that in myself where I've missed
00:50:33.744 -->
00:50:36.244that, you know, in the past. You know what I mean?
00:50:36.864 -->
00:50:41.744Well, I know when I was just like, well, I want to get closer to God,
00:50:42.024 -->
00:50:46.404but I don't, I'll just go to more class things at church.
00:50:46.404 -->
00:50:49.564Or i'll spend time more
00:50:49.564 -->
00:50:52.464with like my life group people and stuff which is good
00:50:52.464 -->
00:50:55.404but he can see the intent of
00:50:55.404 -->
00:50:58.264your heart right he knows like i
00:50:58.264 -->
00:51:01.204was really trying to talk to the girl at life group i wasn't really trying
00:51:01.204 -->
00:51:05.044to get closer to god right yeah and uh
00:51:05.044 -->
00:51:08.464that's where i think like the
00:51:08.464 -->
00:51:11.524deliverance part is so important that nobody teaches you
00:51:11.524 -->
00:51:15.324that but you got so many things talking in your head that
00:51:15.324 -->
00:51:18.184you know you i would beat myself up so bad
00:51:18.184 -->
00:51:21.744because i'm like well i'm just gonna white knuckle not going through porn anymore
00:51:21.744 -->
00:51:24.584right and it's like dude you don't even
00:51:24.584 -->
00:51:28.504you don't even have the tools to get rid of it yet right exactly
00:51:28.504 -->
00:51:33.384yeah and especially if you're not leaning on god i mean it's not gonna work
00:51:33.384 -->
00:51:39.324either way it don't matter 100 if you're not if you're not with like going to
00:51:39.324 -->
00:51:46.024him every day we're deliverance we're deliverance is gonna help with situations like that is like.
00:51:48.999 -->
00:51:52.219You said it, you know, all the different voices in your head.
00:51:52.359 -->
00:51:55.499And it's like Marcus said before, my father-in-law, he said,
00:51:55.659 -->
00:51:59.099like, you got too many people at the meeting.
00:51:59.499 -->
00:52:01.479And you didn't even know it, you know.
00:52:02.819 -->
00:52:08.319Yeah, I was at a point where, and I said this last week, I was at a point where
00:52:08.319 -->
00:52:10.819I just thought I was an overthinker, dude.
00:52:11.259 -->
00:52:13.439Like, oh, I'm thinking of this, I'm thinking of that. I'm like,
00:52:13.499 -->
00:52:18.159my brain is bouncing around everywhere. where you feel like the freaking,
00:52:18.999 -->
00:52:21.999like a pinball inside of a pinball machine. It's like ding, ding,
00:52:22.219 -->
00:52:22.899ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:52:23.179 -->
00:52:26.319And it's like, oh, these are all these thoughts coming at me a hundred miles
00:52:26.319 -->
00:52:28.119an hour. And I thought they were all my thoughts.
00:52:28.819 -->
00:52:33.879Yeah. And then when I'm up there in the Fallen Angel Conference,
00:52:34.079 -->
00:52:38.939I'm like, after what happened for me happened for me, I'm just kind of sitting
00:52:38.939 -->
00:52:41.859there taking everything in. I'm not having a thought in the world.
00:52:42.459 -->
00:52:44.039I'm just sitting there and I'm just like.
00:52:46.839 -->
00:52:49.559This is weird, you know?
00:52:49.799 -->
00:52:53.219And so the whole drive home, I'm thinking, like, I get to a point,
00:52:53.319 -->
00:52:55.119like, I'm going to drive home where I'm excited,
00:52:57.159 -->
00:53:00.179but I'm just having one clear thought. Does that make sense?
00:53:00.639 -->
00:53:07.619Yeah. I don't have all these, like, and it's like, I would get so angry because
00:53:07.619 -->
00:53:10.479I wouldn't be able to vocalize or verbalize,
00:53:11.239 -->
00:53:16.299what I'm trying to say, especially when I get flustered or I get upset or get angry or whatever.
00:53:20.079 -->
00:53:22.359When people talk about like.
00:53:29.634 -->
00:53:35.914Not genetic, but ancestral curses, maybe genetic curses, whatever you call it.
00:53:37.054 -->
00:53:40.614Yeah, like bloodline curses or whatever.
00:53:41.074 -->
00:53:44.754Generational? Yes, thank you. Thank you. Generational curses.
00:53:45.054 -->
00:53:50.494And it's like you get to, you hear that and you're like, okay,
00:53:50.634 -->
00:53:53.174it was just the way you were brought up or whatever and this and that.
00:53:53.174 -->
00:54:01.234But no, dude, I'm telling you, from the time that my son was little,
00:54:01.954 -->
00:54:06.094and he's a teenager now, great kid, got a good head on his shoulders,
00:54:06.294 -->
00:54:11.874but I would see him, and I would recognize it in him, that same anger pattern.
00:54:12.074 -->
00:54:15.194And so I asked him one time when he was like four or five years old,
00:54:15.234 -->
00:54:19.874I was like, hey, buddy, you're getting really upset, and I'm trying to understand
00:54:19.874 -->
00:54:22.714what's going on, and I was like...
00:54:24.174 -->
00:54:27.074Does it feel he's like i don't know i'm
00:54:27.074 -->
00:54:29.834getting he's just like he's screaming i don't know and i'm
00:54:29.834 -->
00:54:32.694like does it feel like there's thunderclouds in
00:54:32.694 -->
00:54:35.434your head and he's like yes but there's just
00:54:35.434 -->
00:54:38.254thunderclouds on my head and lightning's flashing everywhere and i'm
00:54:38.254 -->
00:54:41.514like know exactly how you feel because that's
00:54:41.514 -->
00:54:44.234how i felt and nobody ever explained it
00:54:44.234 -->
00:54:47.174to me like that but like that's exactly the only
00:54:47.174 -->
00:54:52.674way i could figure out how to like verbalize how
00:54:52.674 -->
00:54:55.874um why why i was so flustered
00:54:55.874 -->
00:54:58.734and why i was getting so angry to the point of sometimes to the
00:54:58.734 -->
00:55:01.594point of tears i'm so mad because i'd
00:55:01.594 -->
00:55:04.694have like these all these thoughts were just crashing
00:55:04.694 -->
00:55:07.594together dude and it was literally like being
00:55:07.594 -->
00:55:11.974inside of a thundercloud when lightning's striking everywhere and the thunders
00:55:11.974 -->
00:55:15.474are roaring and all that and i'm like that's how it was inside my head all the
00:55:15.474 -->
00:55:19.934time and so i recognize that my son at like four or five years old this is before
00:55:19.934 -->
00:55:24.694i'm ever anywhere close to to to being with god and um,
00:55:26.898 -->
00:55:31.458for the first time in my life i got to a point a couple saturdays ago where
00:55:31.458 -->
00:55:36.738that was gone i think that was just gone dude it wasn't because of a substance
00:55:36.738 -->
00:55:41.558it wasn't because of it wasn't because uh you know i went to the right doctor
00:55:41.558 -->
00:55:43.218and got the right combination of pills.
00:55:44.518 -->
00:55:49.438It was because i went to the right doctor i got filled with the holy spirit
00:55:49.438 -->
00:55:55.658you know is jesus christ said hey enough is enough you know what i mean and
00:55:55.658 -->
00:55:57.158i was open to receive that.
00:55:58.378 -->
00:56:03.118You know it's it was it's an
00:56:03.118 -->
00:56:06.018amazing feeling and i'm not gonna say that the world
00:56:06.018 -->
00:56:09.078hasn't tried to tried to push those voices back in
00:56:09.078 -->
00:56:12.078there but i can tell you this it's a lot easier to
00:56:12.078 -->
00:56:14.678swat them away you know what i mean it's a
00:56:14.678 -->
00:56:20.018lot easier to swat them away and and when that stuff starts happening now i
00:56:20.018 -->
00:56:26.318have the the clarity to go jesus rebuked that liar jesus rebuked that thought
00:56:26.318 -->
00:56:32.658you know the rebuke that that spirit is trying to make its way back in because now this is your house,
00:56:33.478 -->
00:56:41.718this is your house and and and and so the house isn't empty you know the house isn't empty he
00:56:41.928 -->
00:56:46.048come back and bring seven of his friends because jesus
00:56:46.048 -->
00:56:49.908jesus rebukes that matthew doesn't
00:56:49.908 -->
00:56:52.948have the power to rebuke that wesley and
00:56:52.948 -->
00:56:55.608jake don't have the power to rebuke that but if
00:56:55.608 -->
00:56:59.808you got the holy spirit inside you and you're filled with the holy spirit jesus
00:56:59.808 -->
00:57:06.508can rebuke it you know even the archangel michael did not rebuke satan did you
00:57:06.508 -->
00:57:12.008know that everybody talks about you know the Archangel Michael and his battle
00:57:12.008 -->
00:57:14.128with Satan, he didn't rebuke Satan.
00:57:14.408 -->
00:57:16.488He said, the Lord rebuke you.
00:57:17.688 -->
00:57:23.168And that's where the distinction has to come from. And so we talk about it all
00:57:23.168 -->
00:57:25.348the time, removing self.
00:57:25.668 -->
00:57:29.028You know, you have to remove the eye because...
00:57:31.463 -->
00:57:36.803Another thing that we hear all the time, the power of life and death is in the
00:57:36.803 -->
00:57:39.303tongue, right? You have to remove the I.
00:57:41.063 -->
00:57:45.983Let the Lord do your bidding. Let the Lord do your work. You know, you come bring it to him.
00:57:46.003 -->
00:57:50.603And like when those thoughts come in or those spirits start knocking on the
00:57:50.603 -->
00:57:54.643door, Jesus rebukes them. Jesus rebuked that spirit.
00:57:56.123 -->
00:58:00.763Cast them out. because if you're sitting here and you're trying to eye,
00:58:00.903 -->
00:58:05.403eye, eye, eye, that's where we start to fail.
00:58:06.543 -->
00:58:13.243And so it's a lot, it's a lot easier now than it was three weeks ago.
00:58:15.243 -->
00:58:20.663Friday night three weeks ago, I was still having those under clouds.
00:58:20.863 -->
00:58:26.183I was still having that whirlwind of different opinions rolling through my head
00:58:26.183 -->
00:58:30.343about who I am and what my issues are and this and that.
00:58:30.463 -->
00:58:33.303And now it's like, I know who I am.
00:58:33.443 -->
00:58:39.203And you catch these worldly moments of doubt, these worldly moments of frustration.
00:58:39.663 -->
00:58:46.183And then like today, we were sitting there and it's like, well, we got this.
00:58:46.303 -->
00:58:49.783We got this and he did this for us and he did that for us. It's like,
00:58:50.323 -->
00:58:51.703yeah, he did, Matthew. You're right.
00:58:52.203 -->
00:58:56.523He did do that. He is doing this. And then I got this going on.
00:58:56.583 -->
00:58:58.783I got that going on. I started counting all the good things.
00:58:59.143 -->
00:59:03.963It's like, Jesus rebuked that other stuff, rebuked that doubt that was trying
00:59:03.963 -->
00:59:07.843to knock on the door. You know what I mean? Like, get that out of there.
00:59:09.503 -->
00:59:12.943Because there's no place for that. There's no place for that there when you're
00:59:12.943 -->
00:59:13.903filled with the Holy Spirit.
00:59:14.103 -->
00:59:18.103And that's what deliverance is about, is going in and cleaning out the house,
00:59:18.663 -->
00:59:21.403and making it ready for the king, you know?
00:59:21.883 -->
00:59:24.963And then inviting them in and having them live there.
00:59:27.664 -->
00:59:34.024Absolutely i mean it shows how blessed we are man a hundred percent man about so much good stuff,
00:59:34.564 -->
00:59:41.044that the yeah four bad things are what pop up in your head yeah it's because
00:59:41.044 -->
00:59:47.884that's the only he's taken care of we're like well man yeah i'm not gonna be
00:59:47.884 -->
00:59:51.224able to go out to eat this week you You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:52.004 -->
00:59:53.444Oh, boo. It's like, yeah.
00:59:54.564 -->
00:59:58.544So what? You know, we're not supposed to live on bread alone anyways,
00:59:58.724 -->
01:00:01.044you know, but by every word of God, so.
01:00:01.944 -->
01:00:07.864Yeah, I mean, like, to speak on the deliverance piece, I know I was in church
01:00:07.864 -->
01:00:16.124two months ago probably, and I dove into porn the night before, and it was funny.
01:00:16.124 -->
01:00:19.444I was like convinced i had
01:00:19.444 -->
01:00:22.284like five things that the lord that the devil tried
01:00:22.284 -->
01:00:30.104to tell me that morning the lord uh showed himself in that in that church service
01:00:30.104 -->
01:00:34.964it was yeah it's uh before the bruce thing that was probably the most powerful
01:00:34.964 -->
01:00:39.584moment i had at church but like right i literally said to myself like lord i'm
01:00:39.584 -->
01:00:41.504not gonna i'm not letting this go i'm gonna hold
01:00:41.564 -->
01:00:47.604to this but i still live for you right uh i'm gonna live one foot in one foot
01:00:47.604 -->
01:00:54.164out i'd rather do that than be two foot out you know yeah and then uh the pastor's word was.
01:00:55.324 -->
01:01:02.264If if your right hand causes you to sin cut it off and uh he keeps going on
01:01:02.264 -->
01:01:07.044and on and on if you if you're trying to live one foot in one foot out it's
01:01:07.044 -->
01:01:11.264not gonna work you bet you You might as well cut that foot off or dive all the
01:01:11.264 -->
01:01:14.224way out because it's not going to you're doing the same thing, basically.
01:01:15.124 -->
01:01:20.064Right. And he was like, man, stick your hand out right now.
01:01:21.507 -->
01:01:25.347And just cut off that thing that you know is holding you back.
01:01:26.247 -->
01:01:28.987And my buddy was visiting from
01:01:28.987 -->
01:01:32.447Georgia. He comes to this church all the time. But he lives in Georgia.
01:01:32.927 -->
01:01:34.887He takes weekend trips often.
01:01:35.767 -->
01:01:42.167Always. So, you know, 10-hour drive. But he's like, the pastor,
01:01:42.247 -->
01:01:45.607he's like, kept praying over, like, if you, if that one thing,
01:01:45.707 -->
01:01:48.367just cut it off. Don't let it control you anymore.
01:01:48.927 -->
01:01:54.687And I would not. I can't I didn't want to let it go yeah I wouldn't stick my
01:01:54.687 -->
01:02:00.667hand out really even right even earlier he had called like an altar call like
01:02:00.667 -->
01:02:04.327right right before the service even started you know just let the Holy Spirit
01:02:04.327 -->
01:02:08.487work he's like if you feel like you're backsliding or something go up there,
01:02:09.527 -->
01:02:13.527and two people went out there I knew I knew the Lord was telling me to go up
01:02:13.527 -->
01:02:18.327there yeah do it but yeah we get to this is about the end of service when he
01:02:18.327 -->
01:02:20.187told them do the cutting of the hand, you know?
01:02:21.759 -->
01:02:25.699And I wouldn't do it. Everybody else has their eyes closed and everybody's doing
01:02:25.699 -->
01:02:28.879it. I'm just, I'm keeping my hand right here.
01:02:31.839 -->
01:02:37.519And Tristan, my buddy, he walks up to me as soon as they're like just playing
01:02:37.519 -->
01:02:40.699some music at the end while everybody's just kind of doing their thing.
01:02:41.479 -->
01:02:48.219And he's like, Matthew, the Lord told me to come up to you from the beginning of the service.
01:02:48.519 -->
01:02:50.419And I was just finding the moment to do it.
01:02:51.059 -->
01:02:55.079And he prayed basically he delivered me of unworthiness,
01:02:56.339 -->
01:03:01.839yeah because that was everything I wouldn't go and I was like well I don't want
01:03:01.839 -->
01:03:03.919to bother people or I don't want to,
01:03:05.039 -->
01:03:09.239tell people a word for them because I'm not worthy of that even though the word
01:03:09.239 -->
01:03:13.419has chosen me and he lives within me I'm not worthy to go tell people what the
01:03:13.419 -->
01:03:18.999Lord told them I need to tell them right or even just to like not be walked all over,
01:03:19.559 -->
01:03:22.479right and dude yeah he just prayed that
01:03:22.479 -->
01:03:25.299out of me and i'm not gonna tell like i didn't go straight back to the point i
01:03:25.299 -->
01:03:29.019did but right but ever
01:03:29.019 -->
01:03:32.379since then i'm like man really every time
01:03:32.379 -->
01:03:37.779you know i fall into the same old traps or stuff like man i'm not i'm worth
01:03:37.779 -->
01:03:44.539a lot more than that i'm a son of you know yeah it that doesn't control me anymore
01:03:44.539 -->
01:03:49.859yeah yeah i think uh i mean getting some serious
01:03:50.259 -->
01:03:52.259deliverance would definitely help.
01:03:54.319 -->
01:03:57.859Also, it's like, kind of like I was saying before, man, I mean, like,
01:03:59.110 -->
01:04:04.930the fact that you recognized that you were you you recognize like okay i don't
01:04:04.930 -->
01:04:08.650want to give this up i'm not ready to give this up you've got to be at a point
01:04:08.650 -->
01:04:10.330where you're ready to give it up and,
01:04:11.310 -->
01:04:15.090at points now you know what i mean like the point is now like you're talking
01:04:15.090 -->
01:04:19.050about it so i know that you know you don't want to live with that right you
01:04:19.050 -->
01:04:24.150know oh yeah he was calling it out man i'm like yeah yeah i got there was five
01:04:24.150 -->
01:04:27.850different signs of things that i told myself that morning and,
01:04:29.230 -->
01:04:32.790I even told myself that Tristan didn't care about me. Oh, wow.
01:04:33.790 -->
01:04:37.310That's what Satan was trying to tell me. Yeah, yeah.
01:04:37.450 -->
01:04:41.790This guy who literally reached out to me once a week, just said,
01:04:41.930 -->
01:04:44.890hey, where are you at, man? What's going on? Right.
01:04:45.390 -->
01:04:51.850Good, all this. So for me to say this guy didn't care about me, crazy. 100%, man.
01:04:53.390 -->
01:04:58.790God, that's the way the liar works, though, man. The liar is going to tell you
01:04:58.790 -->
01:05:03.370all that stuff, all that stuff, because he's told me all that stuff.
01:05:03.490 -->
01:05:05.950Oh, this person doesn't care of me. That person doesn't care about me.
01:05:08.310 -->
01:05:12.830And, oh, I'm not worthy. And I'm not worthy to tell these people that word.
01:05:13.110 -->
01:05:19.550Or if you have a word for somebody, I'll tell you what, one thing that I did
01:05:19.550 -->
01:05:22.790get deliverance from was like a spirit of cowardice, man.
01:05:22.790 -->
01:05:27.770Is like just like when God tells you he puts a word on you to give this somebody,
01:05:28.470 -->
01:05:33.250you give it to him you know and and I've had that happen where like there's been a time where,
01:05:33.750 -->
01:05:38.890I've had a word and I'm like I gotta I'm supposed to tell this person that I
01:05:38.890 -->
01:05:41.630know it's not coming from me because there's nothing I would ever bring up on
01:05:41.630 -->
01:05:48.130my own anyways and I said look I know that's not coming from me but I gotta tell him and so I'm like.
01:05:49.207 -->
01:05:54.707When I was up there, that was one of the things that I prayed for.
01:05:54.947 -->
01:05:58.767It was like get rid of the spirit of cowardice that pulled out of me.
01:05:59.427 -->
01:06:05.087It's like now I'm at a point where if I feel like God is telling me a word and
01:06:05.087 -->
01:06:08.907I know that it's him because once you hear him, you know.
01:06:09.387 -->
01:06:14.567You know, like what? Now maybe that is not as people talk about hearing.
01:06:15.087 -->
01:06:18.347And hearing is not just an audible thing.
01:06:19.407 -->
01:06:24.687It's this, I get a burning in my chest, create this burning in my chest,
01:06:24.927 -->
01:06:29.907this swelling in my chest, and I'm like, hmm. And then a thought will pop in there.
01:06:30.887 -->
01:06:33.727And now that you don't have all the other people at the meeting,
01:06:34.027 -->
01:06:38.407you can hear that more clearly. You're like, okay, so I have to do this.
01:06:38.467 -->
01:06:42.767And so now that spirit of cowardice was holding that back at one point,
01:06:43.247 -->
01:06:47.527because I had so many people at the meeting, and I had all these different voices in my head.
01:06:48.047 -->
01:06:50.827And um i don't feel
01:06:50.827 -->
01:06:53.887like i have that anymore like i don't i just it's it's
01:06:53.887 -->
01:06:57.967it's pretty much gone to the point where like it
01:06:57.967 -->
01:07:03.867or not like it love it or hate it if god tells me to tell you something i'm
01:07:03.867 -->
01:07:10.807gonna tell you um and it's like right now i feel like that thing is discipline
01:07:10.807 -->
01:07:15.087dude the discipline's gotta be the thing that we all work on and that's just
01:07:15.087 -->
01:07:17.507as much for myself as it is for anybody else.
01:07:19.507 -->
01:07:23.447And we want to get, you want to be delivered from stuff,
01:07:25.198 -->
01:07:29.418But he wants you to take action.
01:07:29.998 -->
01:07:34.558So faith without works is dead. That's what James says, right?
01:07:35.298 -->
01:07:40.538Works is not just talking about going out in your community and serving the homeless.
01:07:40.678 -->
01:07:44.318Works is not just talking about going out and helping paint the church building,
01:07:44.318 -->
01:07:48.778you know, for spring cleaning and going to the charity toy drive.
01:07:49.618 -->
01:07:58.218Works is discipline. It's taking the steps that we need to take to remove the idols from our lives.
01:07:58.418 -->
01:08:01.678It's taking the steps that we need to take to walk with Christ.
01:08:03.218 -->
01:08:07.478And that's what it means by works. You know, some people talk about,
01:08:07.618 -->
01:08:10.618well, work, you know, when they talk about works won't get you into heaven,
01:08:10.778 -->
01:08:13.398they're talking about going out and serving your community and doing all these
01:08:13.398 -->
01:08:14.518things and doing all that.
01:08:15.738 -->
01:08:20.158But faith without works is not faith. It's a dead faith.
01:08:20.318 -->
01:08:27.358Faith without works is, you know, that's that's fantasy you know faith without
01:08:27.358 -->
01:08:32.538works is like oh well if the Lord wants me to be delivered to this he's gonna deliver me from it.
01:08:33.877 -->
01:08:39.557Like, that's not true. God wants you to be delivered from it.
01:08:39.617 -->
01:08:41.037He wants you to work with him with it.
01:08:41.317 -->
01:08:45.637You know, so he wants you to be disciplined enough to take the steps to say,
01:08:45.837 -->
01:08:50.617hey, if I can't go to sleep without staring at my phone, whether it be porn
01:08:50.617 -->
01:08:53.417or whether it be rage media, like, you know,
01:08:53.757 -->
01:08:56.457well, what did those liberals say?
01:08:56.557 -->
01:09:00.217Or what did Trump say that was stupid today? You know, if you can't go to bed
01:09:00.217 -->
01:09:01.517without looking at that crap,
01:09:02.397 -->
01:09:07.337plug your phone up in the living room, plug it up in your car and lock the door
01:09:07.337 -->
01:09:11.757and let it charge out there and get a freaking alarm clock. You know what I mean?
01:09:12.297 -->
01:09:14.237That's discipline and that's works.
01:09:14.877 -->
01:09:18.177That's works. That's taking the steps to do that stuff. You know what I mean?
01:09:18.177 -->
01:09:25.057If you can't get on social media without raging at your neighbor because they
01:09:25.057 -->
01:09:31.417voted for Kamala and you're a Trump supporter, hey, dude, delete Facebook.
01:09:33.625 -->
01:09:38.665Do the works. You know what I mean? Social. Do what?
01:09:39.825 -->
01:09:45.825I'm sorry. I can help it. What did you do? You got to get rid of truth, social. It's God.
01:09:47.365 -->
01:09:53.645Only God is the truth. That is true. That is true. Only God's the truth.
01:09:55.205 -->
01:09:59.885I got to hop off. Oh, I'm sorry, Wes. You're getting too late.
01:10:00.985 -->
01:10:04.045Yeah, I mean, I got to be in the ski. early
01:10:04.045 -->
01:10:07.445in the morning do a job for my aunt so i'm
01:10:07.445 -->
01:10:10.265gonna i'm getting i'm getting tired i'm saying i'm trying
01:10:10.265 -->
01:10:13.125not to look too tired while we're sitting here filming i'm over
01:10:13.125 -->
01:10:16.125here like this all right man well i
01:10:16.125 -->
01:10:21.325appreciate you being on here and yeah just uh you know i'll try to get that
01:10:21.325 -->
01:10:25.605thing done i guess tomorrow when i'm done with the job you know i use my free
01:10:25.605 -->
01:10:29.205time and then i don't know how you want to handle this one if you want to just
01:10:29.205 -->
01:10:33.885send it to me or what or right on either that or I mean, I'll try.
01:10:34.045 -->
01:10:37.445I'm going to look at it when we get done here. I'll see what we can do as far as like.
01:10:37.945 -->
01:10:41.205It said when I Googled it, it said you can edit it on YouTube.
01:10:41.425 -->
01:10:45.085So I'll try to get this one edited and at least edited.
01:10:45.305 -->
01:10:48.445And then I'll try to host it after the other ones posted.
01:10:49.445 -->
01:10:53.005All right. That way you're not having to work on both of them. You know what I mean?
01:10:54.045 -->
01:10:57.505Yeah. But I'm happy. You care as well. Have a good day, man.
01:10:58.365 -->
01:11:00.925Okay. Appreciate it. Yeah, I'm going to head home. Get out of the shop.
01:11:01.565 -->
01:11:04.465Thank you. All right, man. Love you. Be careful. All right. Thank you.
01:11:06.025 -->
01:11:07.625Hey, Matt. Later.
01:11:09.585 -->
01:11:10.125Yeah, dude.
01:11:12.825 -->
01:11:17.725Truth Social, that's where we were at. You can't end it on the Trump point.
01:11:21.805 -->
01:11:26.685Oh, man. No, dude. No, but no,
01:11:26.885 -->
01:11:29.805100% though. I mean, but you know what I'm talking about. Like, it isn't,
01:11:32.050 -->
01:11:36.130porn's not the only addiction you know drugs and drinking are not the only addiction,
01:11:36.770 -->
01:11:39.790um it gets to a point where it's like we we
01:11:39.790 -->
01:11:47.830get so caught up in idolatry with politics with media with with uh social media
01:11:47.830 -->
01:11:52.470you know these things right here that we're talking into right now those are
01:11:52.470 -->
01:11:56.630idols um they just didn't have those back in the day you know when they when
01:11:56.630 -->
01:11:58.930the 2000 years ago when the book was written.
01:12:01.766 -->
01:12:06.706But, um, I mean, I think people forget that,
01:12:07.186 -->
01:12:11.346you know, and not even say forget it, but, you know, we've all got such big
01:12:11.346 -->
01:12:16.706logs in our eyes that they're pointing out the specs when everybody else is
01:12:16.706 -->
01:12:19.766doing it, but they don't really recognize or want to recognize.
01:12:19.766 -->
01:12:22.706Maybe it's a thing where they don't want to recognize when they're doing it.
01:12:23.046 -->
01:12:28.666And that's a huge thing. It takes people away from God. It's the phone right here.
01:12:29.426 -->
01:12:33.086It's where it's a name. drug, drink, or whatever.
01:12:33.786 -->
01:12:38.766Yeah. I mean, it takes more time away than most of your time.
01:12:39.386 -->
01:12:43.746Yeah. God, then that's an idol. Taking your attention away from your kids,
01:12:43.906 -->
01:12:46.366from your spouses, you know, it destroys marriages.
01:12:46.986 -->
01:12:51.026It destroys childhoods, you know, just like, you know.
01:12:51.346 -->
01:12:53.746That's bad. You're not going to be like, man, I really wish I would have spent
01:12:53.746 -->
01:12:56.166more time on my phone. No, exactly.
01:12:57.266 -->
01:13:00.226Man, I wish I would have i wish i would have scrolled on facebook
01:13:00.226 -->
01:13:03.286just a little bit longer seeing that seeing one
01:13:03.286 -->
01:13:05.986more tick tock you know glad i didn't start
01:13:05.986 -->
01:13:10.406that business i'm glad i didn't do that thing that was just really always i
01:13:10.406 -->
01:13:15.606always thought about i'm glad i didn't spend my wife i'm glad i i wish i had
01:13:15.606 -->
01:13:22.766spent more time on my phone yeah exactly 100 yeah and i you know i mean you
01:13:22.766 -->
01:13:25.686nobody gets down to the end of their life and gone,
01:13:26.446 -->
01:13:30.606man, I wish I would have spent more time at work than with my family. Do you know?
01:13:31.206 -->
01:13:35.526Yeah. But nobody, nobody gets down to the end of their life and says,
01:13:35.546 -->
01:13:36.946I wish I would have spent more time,
01:13:37.902 -->
01:13:40.942scrolling you know or playing stupid phone games
01:13:40.942 -->
01:13:43.742than listening to my kids while the short time that
01:13:43.742 -->
01:13:47.302I got to have them while I was raising them you know what I mean I guess
01:13:47.302 -->
01:13:51.822the thing is like people people don't want to recognize when something's an
01:13:51.822 -->
01:13:57.722idol and and that's when it comes down to like once you start recognizing that
01:13:57.722 -->
01:14:02.342or or you're made aware of it that's what I'm talking about when I say works
01:14:02.342 -->
01:14:05.722man like you got to do the works to get that discipline out,
01:14:06.402 -->
01:14:15.742or to get that discipline into you is removing access to it.
01:14:16.022 -->
01:14:19.942That's not the only form of discipline. That's not the only step in discipline.
01:14:21.229 -->
01:14:24.389It's a huge first step. Does that make sense?
01:14:25.209 -->
01:14:29.189I mean, you can do that to even start the path, really. Yeah.
01:14:29.689 -->
01:14:34.169You can try to get discipline while you've got to get a crack addict,
01:14:34.209 -->
01:14:36.189having a crack in there, trying not to do crack.
01:14:36.189 -->
01:14:39.949Yeah accountability accountability is
01:14:39.949 -->
01:14:43.029only so is only good for as far as
01:14:43.029 -->
01:14:45.869is jump-starting it because once you get
01:14:45.869 -->
01:14:48.769to a point if it's like oh
01:14:48.769 -->
01:14:51.669well i gotta hold myself accountable i screwed up again oh
01:14:51.669 -->
01:14:55.129well i gotta hold myself accountable i screwed up again and you're taking mercy
01:14:55.129 -->
01:14:59.529seat after mercy seat or or or you're calling your you know if you want to look
01:14:59.529 -->
01:15:03.449at it like aa if you're calling your accountability partner and aa or na or
01:15:03.449 -->
01:15:08.889whatever you're calling them every week and telling them how you screwed up and how to start over.
01:15:09.729 -->
01:15:13.849Like, how about if you're going to have accountability partners on stuff,
01:15:14.609 -->
01:15:17.489like I was reading in that book and it was talking about like,
01:15:17.569 -->
01:15:20.969hey, how about when you call your accountability partner at the end of the week
01:15:20.969 -->
01:15:24.869instead of telling them, oh, I screwed up this day and I screwed up that day.
01:15:24.989 -->
01:15:28.829How about you go, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, I was good,
01:15:29.329 -->
01:15:31.749relapsed Wednesday, but I jumped right back on at Thursday.
01:15:32.009 -->
01:15:34.289You know what I mean? I jumped right back on the track Thursday.
01:15:34.909 -->
01:15:39.229Then let's keep a track of the progress you made because maybe the week before,
01:15:39.769 -->
01:15:43.269Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, you were relapsing.
01:15:44.149 -->
01:15:47.629Then Thursday and Friday, you got back on the track. But you know what you didn't do?
01:15:48.089 -->
01:15:52.229You didn't stop in between. Then you can start mapping your progress.
01:15:52.449 -->
01:15:55.529And that's kind of how it comes down to, like, you know, when people talk about,
01:15:55.529 -->
01:15:58.589like, weight training and stuff, like when it comes to exercise,
01:15:58.889 -->
01:16:03.549they set a structure and they set a goal, and then they execute.
01:16:03.549 -->
01:16:12.169And if they screw up or they miss that goal that they set, they at least have
01:16:12.169 -->
01:16:16.109the progress record of it. And so we learned in Quest...
01:16:17.314 -->
01:16:21.174Journaling, journaling is important, never journaled in my life.
01:16:22.294 -->
01:16:28.674And unfortunately, since I got out of Quest, I was doing it for a little bit.
01:16:28.894 -->
01:16:32.254I was trying to make a habit of it and doing it a little bit.
01:16:32.694 -->
01:16:36.454It got to a point where it's like, oh, you're journaling when you're angry or you're upset.
01:16:37.154 -->
01:16:40.814And then it's like, oh, I'm not angry or upset anymore. So now I'm not journaling anymore.
01:16:40.954 -->
01:16:43.954But now I'm not keeping documents of all the good stuff.
01:16:44.074 -->
01:16:46.334I'm not keeping a tracker of all the good stuff. I was like,
01:16:46.474 -->
01:16:50.674now, I'm kind of looking at it like, okay, well, that's a discipline that I
01:16:50.674 -->
01:16:57.194need to rebuild again, too, because then I have a track record of the progress. Does that make sense?
01:16:58.954 -->
01:17:02.874No, I was doing it like that, where it's like, well, everything is going so
01:17:02.874 -->
01:17:05.854bad right now. I just need to write it down that way I can get over it.
01:17:06.494 -->
01:17:09.514Then it gets to the point where you're in a good patch, and you don't journal.
01:17:11.594 -->
01:17:15.254Well, now every time you just look at your journal, it's all just negative stuff.
01:17:17.214 -->
01:17:20.094I'm not like I'm pretty good at it. I'm not good at it at all right now,
01:17:20.274 -->
01:17:26.434but I've been doing 30 minutes of prayer every day a week now.
01:17:27.494 -->
01:17:33.174Anything that he says to me, most of it that he says to me gets in there,
01:17:33.314 -->
01:17:35.454but especially the stuff that sticks out.
01:17:36.414 -->
01:17:39.494Anytime he's talking about me, he's not bashing me.
01:17:40.914 -->
01:17:44.954Speaking of the way he sees me, that's the only way he looks like me.
01:17:45.894 -->
01:17:54.554Yeah, a hundred percent, man. And to look back on is like how the Lord looks at you. Right.
01:17:55.114 -->
01:17:57.094I mean, that'll really change the tune, man.
01:17:57.674 -->
01:18:01.214Yeah, it's got to. I mean, it would have to. Just like you were talking about
01:18:01.214 -->
01:18:04.274when you were sitting there in church and you're, you know, the whole time you're
01:18:04.274 -->
01:18:07.914sitting there with the, I'm not worthy and this and that and the other thing.
01:18:09.977 -->
01:18:15.477Truth is none of us are none of us are worthy of that i'm worthy of his love
01:18:15.477 -->
01:18:20.877but he gives it to us anyways and and in his eyes and that's that's coming from
01:18:20.877 -->
01:18:22.897a worldly standpoint but in his eyes,
01:18:23.637 -->
01:18:29.137he's like no i'm gonna make you worthy you know but i'm making worthy you know
01:18:29.137 -->
01:18:33.277you are worthy you're if i give you a word it's because you're the one i want
01:18:33.277 -->
01:18:40.497to deliver that word if i'm if i uh So if I decide that I'm going to make you
01:18:40.497 -->
01:18:43.517an apostle or I'm going to make you a prophet or I'm going to make you,
01:18:43.657 -->
01:18:48.537if I tell you, you go prophesy or heal this person or cast out demons from this person, it's because.
01:18:50.775 -->
01:18:54.875I'm making you worthy. I'm building you into that calling, and I've chosen you
01:18:54.875 -->
01:18:58.435to do that. And who are we to tell the God of the universe no?
01:18:59.455 -->
01:19:07.595That's like, I mean, you know, you got to have, fear of God used to be a normal thing for Christians.
01:19:08.175 -->
01:19:10.735And I feel like everybody has turned it into.
01:19:13.435 -->
01:19:18.715Oh, I go to them to feel better and feel good, and I just want all the warm
01:19:18.715 -->
01:19:20.535bubblies, which you can get that too.
01:19:21.295 -->
01:19:24.895It's the uh the cupcake christianity yeah dude
01:19:24.895 -->
01:19:27.675but you gotta have that fear man you gotta have that
01:19:27.675 -->
01:19:30.575fear of like who am
01:19:30.575 -->
01:19:33.275i when the god of the universe is telling me to
01:19:33.275 -->
01:19:36.335do something to say no that's a
01:19:36.335 -->
01:19:39.975fear in the way that it's written in the bible is
01:19:39.975 -->
01:19:43.135meant to be um i believe
01:19:43.135 -->
01:19:46.115because there's i think brandon was talking about
01:19:46.115 -->
01:19:50.035this before but there's like different there's different
01:19:50.035 -->
01:19:52.715translations of like in like
01:19:52.715 -->
01:19:55.635the hebrew when they're talking about fear of god is
01:19:55.635 -->
01:20:03.935like a respect an ultimate like respect and feel like we've turned it into this
01:20:03.935 -->
01:20:10.935this one fuzzy lifetime christmas movie when and and and to an extent that's
01:20:10.935 -->
01:20:14.075good because i've never felt better than when I'm in the presence of God,
01:20:16.035 -->
01:20:17.735and experiencing his glory.
01:20:19.235 -->
01:20:20.815But at the same time.
01:20:22.895 -->
01:20:28.235It shouldn't be so warm and fuzzy that it's like, I'll get that on Sunday.
01:20:29.055 -->
01:20:34.595Yeah. I'll get that on Wednesday. I'll get that in the car listening to the,
01:20:34.695 -->
01:20:38.495I'll get that in the car when I'm listening to my favorite worship song.
01:20:38.655 -->
01:20:39.355You know what I'm saying?
01:20:39.575 -->
01:20:41.715And bebopping down the road. You know?
01:20:43.555 -->
01:20:49.575Why, why are we so comfortable with, especially in the Western,
01:20:49.775 -->
01:20:55.815Western church, like, why are we so comfortable with ignoring what he's telling us to do?
01:20:56.835 -->
01:21:00.275It comes back to discipline and it comes back to, I don't know,
01:21:00.435 -->
01:21:02.855a lack of real fear for the Lord.
01:21:04.815 -->
01:21:11.555Yeah, I mean, Jesus did not, he was not a dude that was seeking comfort at all.
01:21:11.915 -->
01:21:16.095Not at all. That's it. Oh, dude. Comfort is the big one. The comfort is the
01:21:16.095 -->
01:21:18.355killer, you know, and this is coming from a fat guy.
01:21:18.955 -->
01:21:24.815So comfort is, that's a big, big, it's a motivation killer.
01:21:25.175 -->
01:21:29.275It's a spiritual killer.
01:21:29.595 -->
01:21:35.015Like he never promises comfort anywhere outside of his presence.
01:21:35.795 -->
01:21:39.975You know what I'm saying? well and you were talking about discipline it's like.
01:21:41.455 -->
01:21:45.815All the things of the world they take no discipline to do,
01:21:47.012 -->
01:21:50.092right dopamine dopamine dopamine dopamine
01:21:50.092 -->
01:21:52.812dude well yeah you go get your
01:21:52.812 -->
01:21:55.572dopamine even just scrolling on facebook or whatever you get
01:21:55.572 -->
01:22:01.232your dopamine then what are you left with yeah what have you seen you do things
01:22:01.232 -->
01:22:07.272of business and like diving into the word or right exercising it says take your
01:22:07.272 -->
01:22:15.132body to temple you know no 100 dude it's yeah it's uh out or diving in the word like man,
01:22:15.292 -->
01:22:18.572I really wish I just wouldn't have done that. No, right.
01:22:19.652 -->
01:22:22.372No. No, again, but if you do it, if you do it, say.
01:22:22.772 -->
01:22:25.992It's just you got to suffer a little bit.
01:22:26.172 -->
01:22:30.752But if you get your dopamine fix and it's like from, I don't know,
01:22:31.232 -->
01:22:39.792making a snarky comment to your liberal neighbor on Facebook or you get your
01:22:39.792 -->
01:22:42.372dopamine fix from the hub, you know what I mean?
01:22:43.652 -->
01:22:47.512You feel gross afterwards you're not happy you
01:22:47.512 -->
01:22:50.712know I don't ever remember anybody I've never seen anybody who
01:22:50.712 -->
01:22:54.112just got out of a Facebook argument you know
01:22:54.112 -->
01:22:59.032who was actually genuinely happy they might have got that little rush and then
01:22:59.032 -->
01:23:02.552afterwards they're like they're angry the rest of the day you know what I mean
01:23:02.552 -->
01:23:11.672or an addict you know an addict who whether it be through porn or drugs or whatever I know that if I was,
01:23:12.512 -->
01:23:17.732If I was smoking pot, I might be happy when I'm smoking pot or feel like I'm
01:23:17.732 -->
01:23:22.232happy anyways, but as soon as that's gone, it's gone. You know what I mean?
01:23:22.512 -->
01:23:27.712As soon as the alcohol is gone, then it's gone. And usually the alcohol was
01:23:27.712 -->
01:23:32.212a disaster the next day. So, like, I mean, that's, you know,
01:23:32.332 -->
01:23:34.472and something, like I said before, sometimes the same night,
01:23:34.772 -->
01:23:37.172you know, it's a disaster in the midst of it.
01:23:37.312 -->
01:23:42.452So, it's like, it's never, it's what God tells us is they're,
01:23:42.452 -->
01:23:46.972they're, they're little temporary pleasures when you're supposed to be looking for.
01:23:47.772 -->
01:23:49.932Like, there is pleasure in it. It's not.
01:23:51.190 -->
01:23:54.830I mean, it's temporary. It's not, it's not sustainable.
01:23:55.430 -->
01:24:01.470No. Sustainable. Well, you'll find yourself like on one drink or one night having drinks was fine.
01:24:01.630 -->
01:24:07.750Right. And then you go to do it and, and you're just chasing that one time over
01:24:07.750 -->
01:24:12.590and over just to feel, might feel something. Right. Exactly.
01:24:13.650 -->
01:24:18.770I've never gotten to the word or got done at the gym and like this felt that,
01:24:19.350 -->
01:24:23.070like, oh, well, I'm chasing something I'm never going to get.
01:24:23.530 -->
01:24:30.130Right. No, absolutely, dude. Yeah. If you go, you get up after,
01:24:30.310 -->
01:24:33.950you know, I don't know how long ago it was when I did 10 push-ups,
01:24:33.950 -->
01:24:37.030but it's been a long time, you know, just because I hadn't done them.
01:24:37.350 -->
01:24:41.590You know, I've gone to the gym and exercised and done stuff like that,
01:24:42.690 -->
01:24:47.690intermittently a few times over the last, but like to get down on the ground
01:24:47.690 -->
01:24:53.030and actually try to push out 10 push-ups and then to sit there and do that today and be like.
01:24:54.665 -->
01:25:00.185I might jump down there and do 10 more, you know, just see how many I can do just to do it.
01:25:00.325 -->
01:25:04.605And it's like, I'm definitely going to make it a point to get up in the morning
01:25:04.605 -->
01:25:07.745and do that again and then do it again and do it again.
01:25:08.045 -->
01:25:12.345Because here's the thing, if you do that and you set that structure to where
01:25:12.345 -->
01:25:16.305now I'm going to do this every day, that's a non-negotiable.
01:25:16.885 -->
01:25:20.805Nothing else is happening until this gets knocked out. Nothing else is happening
01:25:20.805 -->
01:25:24.125until I spend some time with the Lord in the morning, some time with the Lord
01:25:24.125 -->
01:25:26.325in the evening. and talk to them all throughout the day.
01:25:27.765 -->
01:25:30.945But nothing else is going to happen until that happens.
01:25:31.565 -->
01:25:34.725So first thing in the morning, you take control of your morning,
01:25:34.965 -->
01:25:36.685then you kind of can take control of your day.
01:25:36.865 -->
01:25:40.245And once you get that pattern, then now you've taken control of your life because
01:25:40.245 -->
01:25:45.465the Bible tells us, and I believe it's in 1 Corinthians, where he's talking
01:25:45.465 -->
01:25:48.665about we are called to self-control.
01:25:49.365 -->
01:25:55.545You know we're given self control to where we can control our bodies take control
01:25:55.545 -->
01:25:59.545over our bodies take control over those things that,
01:26:00.505 -->
01:26:05.525would lead us into sin and by doing that you set up that structure you know
01:26:05.525 -->
01:26:12.585you build that structure I was watching this thing it's by Graham Cook,
01:26:13.525 -->
01:26:16.285he's saying like every fruit of the spirit.
01:26:17.692 -->
01:26:26.312Is comes from self-control 100 i mean yeah you might be uh patient but if you
01:26:26.312 -->
01:26:30.412don't have the self-control then like you can't you can't determine when you're
01:26:30.412 -->
01:26:34.972going to be patient right like i can i when i know i'm hey i'm gonna have to
01:26:34.972 -->
01:26:36.492deal with somebody who's a downer,
01:26:37.132 -->
01:26:42.532i have the self-control to say i am going to be joyful right even though they
01:26:42.532 -->
01:26:47.192are not you know right yeah yeah because i mean there's never be a scenario
01:26:47.192 -->
01:26:49.032where everybody's gonna be,
01:26:49.612 -->
01:26:52.552happy all the time yeah all the time yeah yeah
01:26:52.552 -->
01:26:55.392i can i know i need to do
01:26:55.392 -->
01:26:58.592it but without that self-control man dude
01:26:58.592 -->
01:27:04.032like one it's like they said the term one rotten apple man dude negative person
01:27:04.032 -->
01:27:08.212comes in and like so if we're riding together and you're having a bad day and
01:27:08.212 -->
01:27:12.052i'm trying to be all joyful or whatever and i get to a point where it's like
01:27:12.052 -->
01:27:15.612it's gonna wear down on me and vice versa, like if I'm having a bad day,
01:27:16.072 -->
01:27:18.972and you're like, nah, dude, it's all right. It's going to be good. It's going to be good.
01:27:19.572 -->
01:27:23.292Somewhere along that thing, without that self-control, and there's somewhere
01:27:23.292 -->
01:27:28.972along that day that energy shifts because it's an energy transference, you know?
01:27:29.172 -->
01:27:31.672And that's, you know, that's a spirit in itself, you know?
01:27:31.912 -->
01:27:35.092And it's like, there's an energy transference where it's like.
01:27:35.852 -->
01:27:38.492Dude, I'm just tired of this negative crap.
01:27:38.692 -->
01:27:40.852And then you start getting into the negative crap.
01:27:41.092 -->
01:27:45.412And you're like, well, crap, dude, I'm tired of being the one who's trying to
01:27:45.412 -->
01:27:52.272bring the light, you know, when everybody else that's around me is crapping on it, you know?
01:27:53.468 -->
01:27:57.148And so you have to be very that's that's
01:27:57.148 -->
01:27:59.988where you got to be disciplined as something that
01:27:59.988 -->
01:28:03.008you got to i mean you got to build it's not like just go out there and willpower
01:28:03.008 -->
01:28:07.208through it you can to an extent but like the discipline has to be structured
01:28:07.208 -->
01:28:11.048and i think like that's what you're kind i believe what you're saying is like
01:28:11.048 -->
01:28:14.608you got to have you got to build that where you got to start your day right
01:28:14.608 -->
01:28:18.088where you're spending 30 minutes with the lord you're doing this or you're doing
01:28:18.088 -->
01:28:21.488that and you're going home at the end of the day and going to the gym and doing this thing,
01:28:22.168 -->
01:28:28.748to where that structure delivers the fruit of the Spirit because through the
01:28:28.748 -->
01:28:30.028discipline of self-control.
01:28:31.248 -->
01:28:36.848Which, you know, it sounds, as you say it, you know, saying it out loud, it's like, well, duh.
01:28:37.688 -->
01:28:41.368Yeah. But we don't do it. But we don't do it. You know?
01:28:42.148 -->
01:28:45.328It's well, duh, but it's like, dude, why are you,
01:28:45.488 -->
01:28:49.488you know, going this far into your life where you're talking about it and you're
01:28:49.488 -->
01:28:54.868like, oh yeah I knew that I knew that this whole time but it's not laid out
01:28:54.868 -->
01:28:58.888for you you know what I mean well yeah I mean simple doesn't mean it's easy and,
01:28:59.808 -->
01:29:05.488and really you just it's so easy to be like well alright Lord I'm at a good
01:29:05.488 -->
01:29:10.968point yeah Bible side and I'll talk to you in a little bit you know,
01:29:12.048 -->
01:29:18.068being intentional and diving in with him thanks for the help with that I got it from here yeah.
01:29:20.068 -->
01:29:23.708Thank you all right we're good yeah like
01:29:23.708 -->
01:29:26.988yeah it's gonna you're going to you can willpower yourself
01:29:26.988 -->
01:29:29.648I think I've made it a week where you're like all right
01:29:29.648 -->
01:29:35.248that's good don't you too man and then it all comes crumbling down again you
01:29:35.248 -->
01:29:40.908know I'm going to him every day and man like hey I'm struggling with this right
01:29:40.908 -->
01:29:48.168now Lord I'm praying to him it will go away yeah oh yeah dude of course you know And then,
01:29:48.308 -->
01:29:51.968like you were talking about before, too, when you get to the point where your
01:29:51.968 -->
01:29:56.528prayers are not necessarily you talking and it's more you listening...
01:29:57.492 -->
01:30:00.712And, you know, it might take a minute. It's got to take a minute to get into
01:30:00.712 -->
01:30:02.772that point where you're going to shut your brain down.
01:30:03.212 -->
01:30:06.812You're going to shut your brain down and just stop thinking about stuff and
01:30:06.812 -->
01:30:09.132stop thinking about all the problems.
01:30:09.352 -->
01:30:14.012Stop thinking about all the bad and just shut your brain down and shut up.
01:30:14.432 -->
01:30:15.992Don't have to listen, you know?
01:30:17.152 -->
01:30:19.852I mean, literally, yeah, these past couple times I've gone to pray.
01:30:20.292 -->
01:30:24.892I'll just be praying for like 30 minutes and then I'll fall asleep and I'll wake up.
01:30:26.312 -->
01:30:30.652Just peaceful. peaceful because well because
01:30:30.652 -->
01:30:34.352he says come to me and i'll give you rest yeah yeah
01:30:34.352 -->
01:30:37.112yeah come to me and i'll give you a rest and he's
01:30:37.112 -->
01:30:40.192like ah you're gonna get that i do
01:30:40.192 -->
01:30:43.872well my battery's at 10 we're about to shut this off that's a good point uh
01:30:43.872 -->
01:30:49.792but uh i feel like we uh at least we didn't end it on the uh the trump impersonation
01:30:49.792 -->
01:30:57.572but uh i'm leaving i'm definitely leaving that in there though but um The, uh,
01:30:58.332 -->
01:31:00.352no, man, I mean, it's a good, good conversation.
01:31:00.392 -->
01:31:06.032And so like, I mean, that, he, he gave me the name of this thing and I've said
01:31:06.032 -->
01:31:09.292it before in an episode, but like he gave me the name of the podcast,
01:31:09.432 -->
01:31:11.932Doubt to Devotion. I was like, ah, that's a good name.
01:31:12.994 -->
01:31:15.754And let's explore what that means.
01:31:15.894 -->
01:31:18.894And I think this kind of really just tackled it in a whole new light.
01:31:19.074 -->
01:31:26.214Like devotion is discipline, you know, and discipline is setting up a structure,
01:31:26.834 -->
01:31:31.714setting up a structure and following it through and not quitting just because
01:31:31.714 -->
01:31:34.074you screwed it up one day, you know,
01:31:34.294 -->
01:31:39.014and making it to where it's like you've got these non-negotiable situations
01:31:39.014 -->
01:31:42.474where these things are going to get done every day.
01:31:43.254 -->
01:31:49.954And you build and build and add stuff into it, then that devotion just grows
01:31:49.954 -->
01:31:51.634and grows and grows, you know?
01:31:52.354 -->
01:31:56.314If you truly want to change your life, you got to change your lifestyle.
01:31:56.574 -->
01:31:59.814You can't live the exact same expected. 100%.
01:32:01.014 -->
01:32:05.414And just do that and see where he takes you, man.
01:32:05.574 -->
01:32:09.534Because, like, I mean, just over the last two years, my life has changed drastically,
01:32:09.534 -->
01:32:14.514you know? And it was just from the point of, hey, I'm going to follow him and do what he says to do.
01:32:15.174 -->
01:32:18.714And then, of course, you get comfortable. You get in that rut,
01:32:18.894 -->
01:32:21.014or not even a rut, but like a groove.
01:32:21.214 -->
01:32:24.774And you're like, okay, well, he'll lead me here, and he'll take me there,
01:32:24.834 -->
01:32:28.154and he'll do this, and he'll do that. Yeah, he will, but you got to put the work in.
01:32:29.254 -->
01:32:32.154Just like James said, you got to put the work in. If you just have faith that
01:32:32.154 -->
01:32:37.454he's going to drag you along, that's not necessarily how it works.
01:32:37.494 -->
01:32:41.954He wants you to work with him. he tells us all the time work with me walk with
01:32:41.954 -->
01:32:46.254me do these things holy christ tell everybody hey lay down your nets and follow me,
01:32:46.914 -->
01:32:52.754he didn't say hey um i'm gonna pick you up and carry you over here you know
01:32:52.754 -->
01:32:55.574he didn't go pick peter up and carry him he's like hey
01:32:56.014 -->
01:32:59.294follow me you gotta put the work in now you're gonna walk you gotta walk just
01:32:59.294 -->
01:33:03.954as far as i'm walking you know yeah i mean i i would say like uh.
01:33:05.667 -->
01:33:08.847I know, like, I've gone the slow road of growing with him.
01:33:09.407 -->
01:33:12.907Right. I guess I'm only 24, so some people would call it the fast road.
01:33:13.087 -->
01:33:20.467But, like, it's just, I can see now where I've changed so much. Yeah, absolutely.
01:33:21.267 -->
01:33:24.907And that makes me so excited to see where he'll take me, you know? Exactly.
01:33:25.127 -->
01:33:28.587But you have to have those recaps. You got to look back on that progress and
01:33:28.587 -->
01:33:31.847stuff, you know, instead of just looking at the negative of,
01:33:32.427 -->
01:33:34.807oh, screw it up here, and I screwed up there.
01:33:34.807 -->
01:33:37.687And because that's where we get into that point where, like,
01:33:38.107 -->
01:33:40.787as for me, it was like the same thing you said.
01:33:40.907 -->
01:33:43.587Like, you get to the point where you're like, yeah, I'm not worthy of this.
01:33:44.767 -->
01:33:48.107You know, I'm too lazy to do this. Or whenever you start listening to that old
01:33:48.107 -->
01:33:51.707liar, that old liar just starts whispering in your ear.
01:33:52.067 -->
01:33:54.827And then before you know it, you think those are your thoughts, you know?
01:33:55.647 -->
01:33:59.607Yeah, I mean, that's why he says testimony is so important.
01:34:00.347 -->
01:34:04.647Of course. I mean for you and for everybody else but like you just gotta look
01:34:04.647 -->
01:34:09.067back like well man if this was going on a year ago how much deeper in this hole would that have been,
01:34:09.807 -->
01:34:15.267exactly how much longer would it turn to him right yeah when would the rage
01:34:15.267 -->
01:34:20.567have come out when would this come out or that came out you know and like as to where now it's like,
01:34:21.567 -->
01:34:26.227rage isn't even heard of really for me like it's like I have my moments where
01:34:26.227 -->
01:34:30.947I get upset or I get angry but like I'm not you can ask my son dude I'm not
01:34:30.947 -->
01:34:32.847I'm not who I used to be, you know?
01:34:33.227 -->
01:34:37.547Oh, yeah. I tell people all the time, like, that's probably one of my biggest
01:34:37.547 -->
01:34:41.047testimonies to date is just the fact that he was like.
01:34:42.054 -->
01:34:44.914And i asked him i'm like dude you believe in god and he's
01:34:44.914 -->
01:34:47.794like yeah i see what he i seen i changed you
01:34:47.794 -->
01:34:51.394i would not why would i not believe in that i'm like bro
01:34:51.394 -->
01:34:54.494you know he doesn't even know he's preaching
01:34:54.494 -->
01:34:59.854but but that'll preach you know what i'm saying you know but uh all right bro
01:34:59.854 -->
01:35:03.714it was good talking to you and uh we'll get you on here again man i mean oh
01:35:03.714 -->
01:35:07.294i'm gonna try to do one of these every friday now or not try that's a that's
01:35:07.294 -->
01:35:12.034a that's a non-negotiable every friday i'm gonna So I'm going to knock one of
01:35:12.034 -->
01:35:13.134these out. I'm going to stop saying try.
01:35:13.574 -->
01:35:16.014That's a non-negotiable. I'm going to knock one of these out every week.
01:35:16.454 -->
01:35:20.334Most likely it's going to be on Friday unless something interrupts that,
01:35:20.354 -->
01:35:24.774and then it'll still be every week. It'll be towards the end of the week at some point.
01:35:24.974 -->
01:35:29.314But I'm not going to leave myself any loopholes. One's coming out a week.
01:35:30.034 -->
01:35:33.834I love it, man. All right, bro. Have a good one. You too, man. Bye.