Mark Grenon: Imprisoned, Poisoned, Debanked, Deplatformed, and Unstoppable: Life as a Medical Missionary

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Hello everyone, welcome to episode number 51.
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My guest today is a living legend, mr Mark Grennan.
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Mark has such a fascinating story that we needed two episodes to chronicle the life this man has lived and do our best really to capture it for posterity.
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So, as you'll hear me say in the episode, mark's story reminds me of a combination of a James Bond movie and the New Testament book of Acts.
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It is remarkable what he has lived through, including multiple attempts on his life, swat team raids, censorship, debanking, deplatforming, withheld medical care, delayed trials, unjust imprisonment and the removal of his social security benefits.
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And that doesn't count the stories he tells in the next episode.
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So what we focused on in this episode is the story of his work as a medical missionary, how that led him to discover chlorine dioxide and eventually be thrown in prison with two of his sons for refusing to stop teaching people how to use chlorine dioxide to heal.
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So for context, mark has personally helped thousands of people heal from some of the most devastating diseases known to man using chlorine dioxide.
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And Mark also has the pictures and stories to back up what I just said.
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So I'll have a link for you where you can see those pictures in the show notes.
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So, in case you are unfamiliar with chlorine dioxide, I've covered that topic from different angles in episodes 16, 18, 45, and 46.
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What's unique about Mark's story is that he is a perfect example of a very uncomfortable reality, namely this there are those in power who not only wish to harm humanity, but they are willing to commit genocide to protect their power.
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So until somebody can metabolize that evil like that is alive and active and in positions of power, you can't see reality for what it is.
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So if you heard episode number 35 with Sally Saxon, you may remember her and I talking about how power hungry people have no red line.
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There is nothing that is off limits, and Mark's story is a perfect example of the lengths those in power will go to to make sure nothing threatens their interests.
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Yeah, I think his story is also an inspiring story of hope and resilience and what it means to face evil and not lose your humanity or the will to fight.
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Now that he is freshly out of prison, mark is on a mission to accomplish a few big things.
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First is to get his two sons out of prison, one of which has never met his four-year-old son.
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Second is to help spread the word about chlorine dioxide.
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Third is to expose the rigged justice system that disregards the US Constitution, similar to what happened with the January 6th debacle.
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And fourth, to share the message of the gospel with anyone who will listen.
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Those are the things that beat in his heart.
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An interesting crossroads for me with this episode is that when I first learned about chlorine dioxide back in 2021, all I could find on the internet was all the propaganda to defame Mark and basically try to scare the crap out of anyone to keep them away from it.
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And Mark is one of the key figures whose story explains why the search engines are completely useless now when it comes to researching anything about health, all you will find is the clanging gong of the medical echo chamber, curated to point you away from what works and instead keep you on the medical conveyor belt for life.
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Friends, in case you do not know it, organic search is dead.
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If you don't know where to go to get real health guidance, you will have a really hard time finding solid answers on the internet, and today's thought leaders and innovators don't show up on the search engine.
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And Mark is one of the countless voices who the powers that be have tried to silence.
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Fortunately for him and those of us who can learn from him.
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The Colombian government kept him from being put in prison for life, which is what the US government was trying to do.
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Now Mark is out of jail and he is fearless, and it was an honor to interview him.
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In the next episode, he and I will talk more about his faith journey, but for this episode, let Mark be an example to you of how fragile our freedoms are and why we need more of us to be vocal to stand up for them.
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The more of us who spread this message, the harder it will be for it to be suppressed.
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So I hope this episode inspires you.
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It certainly inspired me, and if you have the means to donate to Mark to help him make ends meet, please do.
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He is one of the true good guys and he would greatly appreciate your support.
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So I will have links for you in the show notes where you can find his books and his Give Send Go page.
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So I will have links for you in the show notes where you can find his books and his Give Send Go page.
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Okay, without further ado, here is my interview with the faithful, fearless and humble Mark Grennan.
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Okay, hello everyone.
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Welcome to today's show.
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It is my honor to have Mr Mark Grennan join me on the show today.
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Mark has been a missionary for 47 years, including being a pilot, in Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Colombia, and to me his life story feels like a combination of a James Bond movie and the New Testament book of Acts.
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It is remarkable what experience this man has had, so much so that we're going to need two episodes just to effectively scratch the surface.
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So in this episode, we're going to talk about Mark's really jaw-dropping story of learning how to help people heal physically.
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And back in 2006, out of a desperate need to find something to help himself and his family heal from a deadly flesh-eating bacteria called MRSA, mark took to the Internet back in the days when you could still get good health information online, and he came across Jim Humble's work with what at the time was called Miracle Mineral Supplement, or what today is known as chlorine dioxide, and that forever changed the course of his life in many dramatic ways.
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So, mark, thank you for taking the time.
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It's an honor to have you.
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Welcome to the show.
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It's a wonderful blessing you take the time out to let us share our story.
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It really is Not just for get our story out so people can know what's happened to us and hopefully get a pardon from Trump.
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That's the main reason.
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But the secondary reason is to be healed, not be tied to a system that will just treat symptoms and keep you sick.
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It's like the car salesman you know he wants you to buy a car and the car manufacturers make them so they break down.
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Right, they break, so they used to love.
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I have a 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser in Colombia and it runs like a top.
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I have a 2005 Honda CR-V runs like a top.
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I don't like Ducats.
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They don't last as long.
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Yeah, something called planned obsolescence in there, yeah, I get it.
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So all right, well, let me see, I've listened to a few of your interviews and so I know you're pretty much the type of guest who can just interview himself.
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So I'll do my best to just tee you up and get out of the way.
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But before we get to the story of MRSA and chlorine dioxide, talk to us about two things.
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So, first, how did you get into the work of becoming a medical missionary?
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And two, when did you become skeptical of the medical industrial complex and really see it for what it is?
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I'll answer the second question first.
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Okay.
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You hear my voice.
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It's from the 1976 swine flu vaccine.
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Wow.
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It paralyzed the left side of my throat and I had some doctors coming down.
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They did a surgery, put a prosthesis in it, because this one was dead, say, and this one wouldn't be the one moving, so this it had to stretch too far.
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So they pushed this one out, so this one doesn't strain so much, and so that was from a vaccine.
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So because of that, 50 people died, 500 got the Gillian-Barr syndrome that they know of.
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And that's what really paralyzed my vocal cord.
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I didn't know about it until 20 years later, but they settled $5 billion.
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I didn't get any of it because I didn't know about it, but that made me skeptical.
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I never vaccinated my kids.
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I have eight children, that's well.
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That's kind of a lie, because I think I did three of them the what do you call it?
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The tetanus shot to go to Africa as a missionary.
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I don't know why they had us do that, but I think I did that one.
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Okay, so you've been skeptical of pharma since 1976, and that was kind of your awakening.
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That was when I was born, so you've been aware of this a lot longer than I have.
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So well done, okay.
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Well then, talk about how did you get into the work of becoming a medical missionary After?
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maybe we can talk about this next second with the details of it.
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But after I got thrown out of Africa, nigeria because we had 100,000 people on our Bible course in Nigeria and I was living there, we started three churches in three years.
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We started a Bible Institute and because so many Muslims were coming to us, the Muslim government basically said get out of here, you're not getting your new.
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Well, they didn't say it that way.
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They did not renew my visa, which there was no reason for it, so I had to leave Nigeria after three years and I didn't know where to go.
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I didn't want to go back to the church I outfound and work and pastor.
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It's going good because the guy taking over.
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It's not good.
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If a guy comes back in the picture, he's the pastor.
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So I ended up in South Carolina, columbia not Columbia, south America, but Columbia, south America, south Carolina and the pastor was a instructor, a pilot, crazy guy, vietnam pilot man.
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I didn't even know if I wanted to learn from this guy, but I learned how to fly an airplane.
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But he asked me one day he goes Mark, I need help down in Haiti, the Caribbean, turks and Caicos and I need someone that's free, like you, to be a missionary down there.
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I'll teach you how to fly an airplane free, but you're going to need an airplane because you have to island hop.
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I said, okay, long story short, to fly an airplane free, but you're going to need an airplane because you have to island hop.
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I said, okay, all right, long story short, this is kind of funny.
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But uh, I had no airplane.
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So I went, I hit the road raising money for an airplane.
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The bastards would ask me why do you need an airplane?
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Are you a pilot?
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I don't know well, why do you need it?
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But because to what a pilot I go?
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No, well, why do you need an airplane?
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Because it's what I'm going to be doing.
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I want to buy the airplane, learn in the airplane, then I'm going to be flying and then I'll leave.
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So I didn't raise much money because they didn't really like that.
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You're not a pilot.
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Well, what about if you fail?
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But one church in Great Falls, montana, I preached one night about David and Goliath, david having Goliath's sword dropped back in his hands years after he killed him, and the whole altar was full.
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I mean, I still love that message to myself, never mind preaching it.
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But that night they raised all the money for the airplane.
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Wow, so it was 20 grand.
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They raised it, boom, got the airplane.
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So I cut my mission raising support Short.
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Went back to South Carolina.
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Started learning how to fly that airplane, okay, so I was going to Haiti.
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Well, haiti was bad.
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They were just getting ready to invade Remember when the Americans invaded in the 90s and it was really hard to live there as a missionary.
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So I went across the border into the Dominican Republic, about an hour from the border of Haiti, and I didn't know any Spanish.
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I knew all the burrito adios.
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I didn't know any Spanish, so I just started.
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This is if you ever want to learn Spanish or really any language.
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I learned this phrase.
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How do you say that you know like, learned this phrase.
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How do you say that you know like I hold this.
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How do you say this?
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How do you say that?
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And they'd say vaso, okay, vaso, vaso, vaso, vaso, vaso.
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And I just started speaking one word, two word sentences.
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You know, I built up my vocabulary, so God blessed me.
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We sent people to the know.
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I build in my vocabulary, so God bless we.
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We, uh, some people to Lord.
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I showed movies in Spanish because I couldn't speak Spanish.
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The one I used the most was the Burning Hell.
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Oh, rude movie done in the 60s.
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I mean, you talk about zero, zero, um.
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What do you call it when you have um?
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You know what's the word?
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I can't even think in english sometimes.
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You know, when you have, uh, special effects, okay, zero special effects, I mean very crude, right, it was like watching a play, but man, did people really sit up and take notice of that?
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And so we built, I got a bunch of guys together and some ladies and I started a Bible Institute at church.
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I'd say within a year we had four or five guys learning the Bible and I said to myself I go, you know what we really need?
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We need people from America to come and visit a third world country.
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I lived in the Dominican Republic, up in the mountains it was third world in shacks.
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The average family was rich if they had a two room shack, otherwise just one room.
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They ate, they slept, you know.
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Obviously they used the bathroom outside in an outhouse that they made.
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I wanted people to see it and see how friendly the people were, because in Africa these people had nothing, bro, nothing.
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Anybody be singing songs, whatever they had, they'd give you.
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And I saw the same thing in the Dominican Republic.
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I'm like this is what people need.
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They need a shock, especially teenagers, you know.
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And, to make a long story short, in about five years a lot of groups started coming down because I knew a lot of pastors and youth groups, church groups.
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Then a couple years, going medical teams I mean big ones.
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We had up to 100 people come and I was building a dormitory but it was taking time.
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So we'd rent the hotel and downtown and we had probably, on the average, 16 to 20 weeks out of the year, medical teams, surgeons, dentists, pharmacists, and we'd go triage people up in the mountains.
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My boys would help me because by then we were getting proficient in Spanish and they'd bring them down to the town where the hospital was and they'd let us use the operating rooms.
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They loved American doctors and what we did.
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First we made sure the politicians and the big people in the town if they need any operations, their family was first, because we we were still trying to find people that needed it, but we knew we took care of the mayor, the head of the police and everything else their families.
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You know, minor injury, uh, surgeries and stuff.
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A lot of kids have umbilical hernias.
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That's how I got into the medical.
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They wanted me because of my language ability to work in the hospitals.
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Literally, I was a surgical assistant.
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They even let me cut people open.
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I stitched people.
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I mean I did held them guts open.
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I stitched people.
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I mean I did Held them Cuts open.
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I did everything, literally To one point.
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After about five, six years, we're eating lunch and some guys that were finishing up their internship were eating lunch.
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They go.
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So, mark, where did you go to school?
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I go.
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I did what you know surgery.
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Well, I'm just practicing medicine, like you guys are gonna do, just practicing.
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These guys are good teachers and I practiced maybe 20 weeks out of the year, been doing it for about six years.
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Oh, they were like shocked how how could you do this?
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That's the kind of stuff you could do in a third world country.
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I wouldn't have done it myself, but with expert surgeons, of course.
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They taught me.
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I had a dental chip.
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I pulled hundreds of teeth, stitched them up, stitched people up when they got cut.
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So I had a pharmacy in my house.
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So that's how I got into working with medical people and that's when I contracted MRSA.
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Yeah, all right.
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Well, yeah, so that's great background on how you kind of just became, on the mission field, known for helping people with their health.
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And so then fast forward.
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I think it's 2006, was it?
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You and your family contract MRSA, so tell people one what that is, what the prognosis is, and then how that led you to find Jim Humble and chlorine dioxide.
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Well, most people get MRSA, which stands for mesosilin, which is basically a type of penicillin resistant staphylococcus aureum.
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So you you're basically it's resistant to any kind of better ceiling and that's what they use for a lot of bacterial infections, right so, and it's fleshy.
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There's no cure.
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They would just eat away the skin.
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Then it go further and further, getting your blood.
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You gotta cut it immediately.
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A boil would be created, plus horrible looking, and I have eight children.
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We got it from the hospital and it spread through the family.
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So now I'm dealing with this, I'm telling the doctors I had the latest and greatest antibiotics that these doctors could find.
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They even used them in surgery time-released.
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We had Keflexin, rocephin.
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We had injectable ones.
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We had time-released capsules.
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Nothing touched it.
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And Marcia got worse to the point where, after a year or so of having it, my son was on his leg, had a really bad boil, and the doctor came to me and said, mark, we're probably gonna have to cut that out.
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Um, and if it doesn't work which most time it doesn't we'll have to amputate his leg to save his life because it'll get all through his body.
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Over a hundred thousand people die a year from mercy.
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So I'm like whoa.
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So we tried everything pharmaceutical-wise.
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I told my son John we got to do something and we got to really start praying.
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All right, we're already praying, but we got to pray harder because this is what they'll have to do and he goes Dad, no way I'll go see Jesus before you cut my leg off.
00:23:00.105 --> 00:23:06.590
And he was playing baseball with the Seattle Mariners farm team in the Dominican Republic.
00:23:06.590 --> 00:23:11.434
So he's thinking, man, I want to go on and become a professional baseball player.
00:23:11.434 --> 00:23:15.437
He was really good and I don't want my kid to have one leg.
00:23:15.437 --> 00:23:20.201
So, as a father and for myself, I had it bad.
00:23:20.201 --> 00:23:28.817
I got on the internet Dial-up back then, because where I was, we were up in the hills.
00:23:28.817 --> 00:23:37.523
I ran a line a mile up the hill to have dial-up.
00:23:37.523 --> 00:23:39.389
Okay, so I get on.
00:23:39.389 --> 00:23:45.231
We dug wells for people, we, we improved the whole neighborhood, but I um got on there.
00:23:45.732 --> 00:23:55.352
It pops this book that you already mentioned, uh, miracle mineral supplement of the 21st century by jim humble.
00:23:55.352 --> 00:23:58.939
I man, I believe in miracles.
00:23:58.939 --> 00:24:06.688
You know, I've prayed and we've prayed in churches and seen people healed Not miraculously erased the dead.
00:24:06.688 --> 00:24:10.875
But you know, like to go back into operating on the cancer.
00:24:10.875 --> 00:24:15.954
The cancer's gone or things like that, but not to say God can't do those other things.
00:24:15.954 --> 00:24:20.796
But I hadn't personally seen anybody raised from the dead or the blind see.
00:24:20.796 --> 00:24:25.275
But I have seen people recover from deathly things.
00:24:26.264 --> 00:24:33.478
So I'm like Dad, this sounds too snake oil-ish to me.
00:24:33.478 --> 00:24:37.474
Humble miracle, this guy's a scammer.
00:24:37.474 --> 00:24:38.687
So I ignored the book.
00:24:38.687 --> 00:24:43.108
Book came back two weeks later because it's getting worse.
00:24:43.108 --> 00:24:44.792
Type in it again.
00:24:44.792 --> 00:24:46.575
Up comes that book.
00:24:46.575 --> 00:24:51.173
I'm like all right, all right, lord, I'm praying, I'm gonna check it out.
00:24:51.674 --> 00:24:56.608
He offered the first book, first half of the book, free, so I got it.
00:24:56.608 --> 00:24:56.888
Read it.
00:24:56.888 --> 00:25:00.257
I'm you know this doesn't really sound like snake oil.
00:25:00.257 --> 00:25:01.750
He's not asking for any money.
00:25:01.750 --> 00:25:03.988
So that's usually the first.
00:25:03.988 --> 00:25:06.374
You know key, it's snake oil.
00:25:06.374 --> 00:25:07.737
You're asking for money.
00:25:08.204 --> 00:25:23.616
He's over in Africa giving it away, helping people and have all these results Malaria being the first one, 100% of the time being cured, and that's the number one killer in the history of mankind MRSA.
00:25:23.616 --> 00:25:35.635
So then he's finding out he's curing cancer, diabetes, aids, mrsa, infections, intestinal problems, vaginal problems, all kinds of things.
00:25:35.635 --> 00:25:40.515
And so I got the second half of the book read it real quick.
00:25:40.515 --> 00:25:45.572
I'm getting this stuff, lord, I think you maybe sent this guy to me.
00:25:45.572 --> 00:25:49.575
So I ordered this stuff and we had a missionary plane.
00:25:49.575 --> 00:25:52.513
I didn't have my plane with me at the time.
00:25:52.513 --> 00:25:55.293
We had a missionary plane come in.
00:25:55.293 --> 00:26:04.288
Another missionary was borrowing my plane so they would come into Santo Domingo bring our mail and I was waiting About every two weeks.
00:26:04.288 --> 00:26:06.753
I'm waiting as soon as that mail came.
00:26:06.753 --> 00:26:14.729
I ran to the Capitol two and a half hours, got it Started doing it Because I didn't want to give it to my kids.
00:26:15.385 --> 00:26:19.814
They killed my kids, I don't know, so I'll sacrifice.
00:26:19.814 --> 00:26:21.430
I started drinking it.
00:26:21.430 --> 00:26:24.761
It was the protocols then were different than they are now.
00:26:24.761 --> 00:26:26.145
It was pretty strong.
00:26:26.145 --> 00:26:32.116
You get a little diarrhea and uh, so you naturally back down on the strength.
00:26:32.116 --> 00:26:35.107
That's what I had to do, especially with my little kids.
00:26:35.568 --> 00:26:40.797
But in one week, christian, one week, it dried up.
00:26:40.797 --> 00:26:53.908
Two weeks you couldn't even tell I had this big boil size of a baseball gone and I'm like, wow, so obviously I start giving it to my kids and it starts the same thing happening with them.
00:26:53.908 --> 00:27:00.736
So I tell them, the doctors still coming down, uh, hey, look what happened what?
00:27:00.736 --> 00:27:02.559
No, I look.
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:06.268
No, well, they look it up, stay away from me.
00:27:06.268 --> 00:27:07.370
Like, why me?
00:27:07.370 --> 00:27:08.934
Why would I stay away from it?
00:27:08.934 --> 00:27:13.288
Because the fda they had a big farmer it's.
00:27:13.288 --> 00:27:13.990
It's a poison.
00:27:13.990 --> 00:27:18.598
Well, I guess this poison cured me then I'm not staying away from it.
00:27:18.598 --> 00:27:20.430
It's drying up on my kids too.
00:27:20.430 --> 00:27:24.353
Basically, all the doctors ran.
00:27:24.353 --> 00:27:29.333
They stopped coming to me and they were Christian guys, love God.
00:27:29.333 --> 00:27:32.213
They just kind of stopped supporting me.
00:27:32.213 --> 00:27:42.190
Things started coming weird Like whoa, with this stuff called chlorine dioxide miracle mineral supplement, mms.
00:27:43.173 --> 00:27:44.577
This is pretty controversial.
00:27:44.577 --> 00:27:47.012
So I'm a controversial guy.
00:27:47.012 --> 00:28:05.373
I start using it, say, okay, look at your doctors, I'm going to start using it everywhere I go as a missionary and I started curing AIDS, diabetes, cancer, elephantitis, dengue fever, chicken guna.
00:28:05.373 --> 00:28:09.693
All kinds of infections were healing quick.
00:28:09.693 --> 00:28:11.377
So I'm like man.
00:28:11.945 --> 00:28:26.866
After two years of doing that, we opened a website called MMS for Hispaniola that's the island of Haiti in Dominican Republic and I started having people call me.
00:28:26.866 --> 00:28:34.699
I was getting the natural ingredients, two natural ingredients sodium chloride, not chloride salt.
00:28:34.699 --> 00:28:43.066
This was a mineral salt chloride and citric acid or hydrochloric acid, which is in your stomach.
00:28:43.066 --> 00:28:49.305
Citric acid was a little rough on you, so we switched to hydrochloric acid 4%.
00:28:49.305 --> 00:28:51.129
You know, you can put it right in your mouth.
00:28:51.129 --> 00:28:51.930
It's weak.
00:28:51.930 --> 00:28:55.958
So I write, jim.
00:28:55.958 --> 00:28:58.627
I write Jim Wild how this happened.
00:28:58.627 --> 00:29:12.520
I write Jim about my experience, because he had an email in his book Go Jim, this is what I've been doing, thank you for your book, thank you for showing me how to heal my family, but this is what's coming out of it.
00:29:12.520 --> 00:29:31.351
He writes me back and about it he goes wow, mark, that's wonderful, because you're in a different culture, different side of the earth, different people and you're having the exact same doubts, same results I'm having when you use a protocol consistently.
00:29:32.264 --> 00:29:33.851
I said, yep, so it's happening.
00:29:33.851 --> 00:29:35.029
He goes keep in touch, buddy.
00:29:35.029 --> 00:29:36.126
This is great.
00:29:36.126 --> 00:29:37.893
It's growing around the world.
00:29:37.893 --> 00:29:40.047
A lot of people buy my book.
00:29:40.047 --> 00:29:42.793
Okay, cool, all right.
00:29:42.813 --> 00:29:44.156
Another year goes by.
00:29:44.156 --> 00:29:53.793
I'll never forget Me, and my boys are saying you need to take this around the world with the gospel Because we can be like the apostles.
00:29:53.793 --> 00:29:55.447
We can heal people.
00:29:55.447 --> 00:30:02.444
Not instantaneously Sounds pretty quick, like malaria within 4 hours really.
00:30:02.444 --> 00:30:05.534
We did videos about it and everything.
00:30:05.534 --> 00:30:11.773
We did blood tests before and after, but some things I abscessed 2 hours.
00:30:11.773 --> 00:30:13.892
I'm saying quick.
00:30:13.892 --> 00:30:15.631
Some things take a month or two.
00:30:15.631 --> 00:30:18.571
So let's take it around the world.
00:30:18.571 --> 00:30:19.388
Let's stop praying.
00:30:19.388 --> 00:30:35.472
So me and my boys start praying and, um, it's september 2019, so I'm gonna write jim well, we could sell the compound, sell it to another mission and we'll go to africa.
00:30:35.472 --> 00:30:42.494
Kind of work with him at first, show him some of the stuff we've been doing and we'll end up taking it around the world.
00:30:42.494 --> 00:30:53.274
And I write him that he writes back within a day, next day, mark, do not sell your compa.
00:30:54.626 --> 00:30:56.794
I just got out of jail in Malawi.
00:30:56.794 --> 00:30:59.191
They threw me in jail for two weeks.
00:30:59.191 --> 00:31:08.071
I had to pay $5,000, which is about $50,000 to us in Africa, $5,000.
00:31:08.071 --> 00:31:10.091
And they let me out.
00:31:10.091 --> 00:31:15.657
But they also, the government, notified other countries and basically threw me out of Africa.
00:31:15.657 --> 00:31:18.232
So I have to go somewhere.
00:31:18.232 --> 00:31:20.126
Can I come to you?
00:31:20.126 --> 00:31:25.336
Sure, jim, yeah, when you coming, give me three months.
00:31:25.336 --> 00:31:30.876
He sends me he doesn't know me from Adam's house, cat right.
00:31:30.876 --> 00:31:51.229
And he sends me $25,000 and says make me a place where I can live, where I can have air conditioning, I can study because I'm going to start writing a second book and give me internet access, which we had to get, a satellite dish, and even that didn't work good.
00:31:51.229 --> 00:31:58.354
So four or three months later, january 2010, jim Humble is living with us.
00:31:58.354 --> 00:32:01.098
I mean, that's a miracle, right there.
00:32:06.124 --> 00:32:08.449
I think earlier you said 2019.
00:32:08.489 --> 00:32:10.172
So you probably meant 2009.
00:32:10.172 --> 00:32:10.914
Did I say 19?
00:32:10.914 --> 00:32:12.758
Yeah, I always do that 2009,.
00:32:13.399 --> 00:32:15.203
I started praying 2010.
00:32:15.223 --> 00:32:15.985
Yeah, Okay, Keep going.
00:32:15.985 --> 00:32:16.526
No, you're doing great.
00:32:16.526 --> 00:32:17.688
Thank you for keeping that straight.
00:32:17.688 --> 00:32:22.318
Yeah, 2009, because some things happened in 2019.
00:32:22.318 --> 00:32:23.649
Get that in my head too.
00:32:23.649 --> 00:32:26.752
2009, we started praying.
00:32:26.752 --> 00:32:28.250
It came in 2010.
00:32:28.250 --> 00:32:35.631
And immediately he said listen, I want to start seminars, I want to train people.
00:32:35.631 --> 00:32:44.110
This will be an international training institute for all things, chlorine dioxide, mms.
00:32:44.110 --> 00:32:48.139
Like okay, jim, well, let's start a church.
00:32:48.139 --> 00:32:51.125
I haven't got a mission yet, but let's start.
00:32:51.125 --> 00:32:52.867
You know, you got christian science.
00:32:52.867 --> 00:32:55.870
You got um, what's the one?
00:32:55.870 --> 00:32:56.952
Scientology?
00:32:56.952 --> 00:33:08.815
You've got other places that are spiritual and they kind of dabble with even the Seventh-day Adventists Talk about health, and you know, and all of us should.
00:33:08.815 --> 00:33:10.891
You know, I said let's start one.
00:33:10.891 --> 00:33:16.477
We'll call it Genesis 2 of Health and Healing.
00:33:16.477 --> 00:33:19.352
Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing.
00:33:19.352 --> 00:33:27.195
The word church means a group of people ekklesia with a common purpose and a goal.
00:33:27.195 --> 00:33:31.211
Basically, it used to be, in Greece, a political name.
00:33:31.211 --> 00:33:33.296
Ekklesia was first political.
00:33:33.296 --> 00:33:34.829
I said let's do that.
00:33:34.829 --> 00:33:35.792
It was good.
00:33:35.792 --> 00:33:41.477
We'll call it Genesis 2 because it's a new beginning for health in the world.
00:33:42.444 --> 00:33:52.399
Did you have the foresight at that point to know the protections having a church would offer you over what, let's say, just having a business license would do for you?
00:33:52.419 --> 00:34:04.128
Yes, a pastor.
00:34:04.128 --> 00:34:06.574
I was street preaching one time and we got arrested on a sidewalk public way we're preaching.
00:34:06.574 --> 00:34:06.855
It was really.
00:34:06.855 --> 00:34:07.396
Um, it's kind of funny.
00:34:07.396 --> 00:34:11.228
We're preaching in front of catholic church for their las vegas night.
00:34:11.228 --> 00:34:14.534
Okay, you say, why are you picking on catholics?
00:34:14.534 --> 00:34:15.396
I wasn't.
00:34:15.396 --> 00:34:26.346
I was picking on the las vegas night because the town wouldn't let us put up in front of our church A big sign that said old fashioned day instead of Halloween.
00:34:26.346 --> 00:34:34.706
Right, they wouldn't give us a permit, but they gave them one for Las Vegas night at the Catholic church.
00:34:35.449 --> 00:34:38.336
So we got upset so we're preaching there.
00:34:38.336 --> 00:34:44.432
Mary didn't break craps, didn't play craps, jesus didn't play blackjack.
00:34:44.432 --> 00:34:48.241
We had sides up and we're preaching, you know anyways.
00:34:48.241 --> 00:34:51.653
Uh, it's kind of a funny, but we were serious.
00:34:51.653 --> 00:34:54.061
So they arrested two of the guys.
00:34:54.061 --> 00:34:57.628
I wasn't there at the time when they rushed up, put him in jail.
00:34:57.628 --> 00:35:15.832
He got out of bail, but when we went to court this is what I learned we got to court, I came in as the pastor and once the judge heard that this was a church, she dropped the charges right away.
00:35:15.852 --> 00:35:19.262
You guys are a church preaching on the street corner, a public way dropped.
00:35:19.262 --> 00:35:30.419
So I never forgot that Churches have the First Amendment right of freedom of speech and the practice of what they believe.
00:35:30.419 --> 00:35:32.091
First Amendment right.
00:35:32.091 --> 00:35:44.471
Yeah, later that the judge told the jury and said to them you cannot consider the First Amendment in this case.
00:35:44.471 --> 00:35:47.254
Yeah, we'll get to that story shortly.
00:35:47.705 --> 00:35:49.070
So, yeah, keep going with.
00:35:49.070 --> 00:35:50.434
So you've got Jim Humble with you.
00:35:50.434 --> 00:35:59.496
He you start a Genesis 2 church to give yourself some protection from, let's say, your medical friends and other entities who don't want this message out.
00:35:59.496 --> 00:36:02.755
And so you start running seminars, Tell people what happened.
00:36:02.755 --> 00:36:05.070
Then we set up a curriculum.
00:36:05.552 --> 00:36:06.595
I did Bible Institute.
00:36:06.595 --> 00:36:08.030
Jim was a smart guy.
00:36:08.030 --> 00:36:09.631
We designed a syllabus.
00:36:09.631 --> 00:36:12.734
We even had a CD course.
00:36:12.734 --> 00:36:18.198
People could come sitting and explaining the 40 different protocols.
00:36:18.198 --> 00:36:24.329
Come, uh, sitting and explaining the 40 different protocols.
00:36:24.329 --> 00:36:27.296
So the first seminar five months later after he came, he had 45 people from 15 countries.
00:36:27.296 --> 00:36:37.910
I mean it wasn't easy to get dominican public then take a bus to an alpha hours people didn't understand spanish and then call us when they got to down and they come.
00:36:37.910 --> 00:36:49.774
So they, they were really serious people, right, and all had testimonies, all help of people in their respective countries and it took off.
00:36:50.486 --> 00:37:01.581
So after three years we even had the FDA send people down called Pro Consumador, which is like the FDA to try to shut us down.
00:37:01.581 --> 00:37:07.594
I told them we're a church and they said, well, we can't shut you down, you're a church, you can do this.
00:37:07.594 --> 00:37:09.038
We don't sell anything.
00:37:09.038 --> 00:37:12.755
Donations to our church covers everything we do.
00:37:12.755 --> 00:37:14.591
They're like well, they had to leave.
00:37:14.591 --> 00:37:18.605
So that really kind of upset the FDA, right.
00:37:18.605 --> 00:37:25.276
So I learned another thing it's working and I didn't start the church because of that.
00:37:25.276 --> 00:37:31.851
Honestly, they, the court and the newspapers say we start a fake church, fake church.
00:37:31.851 --> 00:37:36.760
I was a missionary 25 years at that time, training people.
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:41.918
We're not a fake church and the church says to take care of your temple, keep it clean.
00:37:41.918 --> 00:37:49.599
That's all we're doing detoxing the body with something that the government's pure water, purify water with.
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.050
They tell you to drink the water.
00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:53.411
So it didn't make sense to me.
00:37:53.411 --> 00:37:54.770
We weren't doing anything wrong.
00:37:55.305 --> 00:38:01.086
So after three years, one of the ladies that came to our first seminar, carrie Rivera.
00:38:01.086 --> 00:38:07.799
She had an autistic kid doing really good with covering kids.
00:38:07.799 --> 00:38:11.395
After she left she started recovering kids.
00:38:11.395 --> 00:38:16.961
Everybody that wrote us had autism or Asperger's, which is adult.
00:38:16.961 --> 00:38:18.045
Send it to Carrie.
00:38:18.045 --> 00:38:22.714
So she had a really beautiful house in Mexico, puerto Vallarta.
00:38:22.714 --> 00:38:32.435
Jim said Mark, I'm going to go there, I'm so tired of the electricity being out all the time and the internet being so bad.
00:38:32.435 --> 00:38:34.131
She invited me to live there.
00:38:34.131 --> 00:38:36.934
I said good, jim, go, because you know what.
00:38:36.934 --> 00:38:45.758
I'm going to go to Colombia, I want to go down toombia, I want to go down the amazon, I want to deal with malaria and, uh, I want to sell the compound and go to colombia.
00:38:46.945 --> 00:39:00.678
So we split up, not because of any problem, because I went to have mexico a couple times to do seminars and he and I went around the world, literally, literally all the way to New Zealand.
00:39:00.678 --> 00:39:01.700
We didn't make Asia.
00:39:01.700 --> 00:39:04.192
That was our next stop when I got arrested.
00:39:04.192 --> 00:39:07.232
Okay, so he's there.
00:39:07.232 --> 00:39:08.750
I'm in Colombia.
00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:10.531
I sell the compound.
00:39:10.531 --> 00:39:14.856
We use that basically to go around the world.
00:39:14.856 --> 00:39:16.752
We do seven hospitals in Colombia.
00:39:16.752 --> 00:39:23.974
We had a lot of doctors that were really sympathetic to natural means, so I did seminars.
00:39:23.974 --> 00:39:27.410
Doctors would come and then we left Colombia.
00:39:27.410 --> 00:39:34.895
We still live in there, but we went and did 63 seminars in 19 countries in 10 years.
00:39:34.895 --> 00:39:37.092
So now I'm up to 2020.
00:39:37.465 --> 00:39:40.355
But before I stop there, I want to tell you what happened.
00:39:40.355 --> 00:39:42.893
Jim wrote his second book with us.
00:39:42.893 --> 00:39:53.247
We collaborated together because we would proofread it, add things to it, and so that was like 2013.
00:39:53.247 --> 00:39:55.608
Yeah right, 2000.
00:39:55.608 --> 00:39:58.249
Printed it, then he left.
00:39:58.249 --> 00:40:02.091
Then I left in 2016.
00:40:02.091 --> 00:40:11.436
I wrote a book because now in 2016, we had been in, let's just say, 40 seminars.
00:40:11.436 --> 00:40:21.662
We had done over 1,000, 1,500 people trained up on how to use the protocols.
00:40:22.382 --> 00:40:38.218
I did a documentary called Quantum Leap I believe you have that link and G Edward Griffin republished it when we were in jail, because they took out everything from us, everything.
00:40:38.218 --> 00:40:49.949
They eventually took us off youtube three million views took off my podcast called g2 voice.
00:40:49.949 --> 00:40:50.530
They took us off of paypal.
00:40:50.530 --> 00:40:51.734
Clickbank closed our church bank accounts.
00:40:51.734 --> 00:40:56.927
They even took godaddy, even took away our domain that we bought from them.
00:40:57.408 --> 00:41:03.006
Okay, everywhere country we went to, they had in the news media.
00:41:03.006 --> 00:41:10.119
These people are coming telling you to drink bleach and be healed of all these things.
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:11.127
It's a lie.
00:41:11.127 --> 00:41:12.248
They're scammers.
00:41:12.248 --> 00:41:14.032
We just kept going.
00:41:14.032 --> 00:41:15.093
We ignored them.
00:41:15.093 --> 00:41:16.976
They kicked down the door in england.
00:41:16.976 --> 00:41:19.080
We threw them out because we're a church.
00:41:19.080 --> 00:41:21.349
It was a church meeting.
00:41:21.349 --> 00:41:29.328
They left, but I had to the people come in their equivalent of fda called trading standards.
00:41:29.328 --> 00:41:35.259
They came in so I taught them why and then we threw them out at the church.
00:41:35.259 --> 00:41:55.652
And so we had crazy leaks out to us cnn sky news which is owned by fox, by the way uh, articles from the wall street journal I mean, excuse me washington post, new york times, the guardian so many newspapers just lying about us saying people are dying.
00:41:55.652 --> 00:41:58.415
So let me fast forward.
00:41:58.455 --> 00:42:08.756
I wrote two more books by 2020, okay, and the guy that watched one guy that watched I got documentary a guy named jeff.
00:42:08.756 --> 00:42:14.434
He put together one in 2020, more detailed because he's been 30 years.
00:42:14.434 --> 00:42:20.574
An icu, he was more technical, very good one.
00:42:20.574 --> 00:42:22.109
He put me on there also.
00:42:22.109 --> 00:42:27.113
But he put it together and that's been seen, just like millions of people.
00:42:27.113 --> 00:42:38.434
Doctors like it, because clinical studies, pictures before and after, doctors talking, scientists, chemists Very well done.
00:42:38.434 --> 00:42:41.714
So 2020 comes along.
00:42:41.714 --> 00:42:53.473
One of the guys says Mark, I have people in the White House that I know, so give me those two bottles, give me your book, your first book.
00:42:53.473 --> 00:42:56.654
I gave it to him and he got it to Trump.
00:42:56.654 --> 00:43:03.117
Okay, that's when Trump mentioned there's a disinfectant that can probably cure this.
00:43:03.117 --> 00:43:08.595
They're saying really quickly, he said an hour and he called it a disinfectant.
00:43:08.595 --> 00:43:17.733
He didn't really know exactly what he was saying, but he said it Employed Fauci and Dr Burke.
00:43:18.245 --> 00:43:20.647
The FDA went wild Big Pharma.
00:43:20.647 --> 00:43:26.992
So they sent out a letter to 700 individuals, companies.
00:43:26.992 --> 00:43:32.937
If you're claiming that you can cure the coronavirus, we're coming after you.
00:43:32.937 --> 00:43:36.400
Cease and desist, or we're going to put an injunction on you.
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.721
So they did.
00:43:37.721 --> 00:43:40.323
They sent 700 people.
00:43:41.103 --> 00:43:56.054
April 7th 2020, I got it and I wrote them a 35 page letter saying why we were not going to stop as a church, why we have the right to come on, why you have no jurisdiction over a church.
00:43:56.054 --> 00:43:58.639
And, uh, we're going to continue on.
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.124
So everybody else ran.
00:44:01.124 --> 00:44:04.310
We didn't see anybody else keep going.
00:44:04.310 --> 00:44:06.495
So they gave us a temporary injunction.
00:44:06.495 --> 00:44:12.654
We didn't go to the courtroom because these courtrooms are not constitutional courtrooms.
00:44:12.654 --> 00:44:17.771
You can't claim the constitution in an administrative court, and that's what they all are.
00:44:17.771 --> 00:44:23.592
So then they did a temporary that permanent injunction.
00:44:23.592 --> 00:44:25.096
My boys didn't go.
00:44:25.096 --> 00:44:27.664
This was america, remember, I'm in columbia.
00:44:27.664 --> 00:44:29.067
The boys didn't show up.
00:44:29.067 --> 00:44:33.958
I wrote another we're not coming to your fake court there, we're not coming.
00:44:34.665 --> 00:44:51.370
So restaurant was issued and now listen, contempt of court to contempt of court charges and conspiracy to defraud the United States of America, not the people, the United States of America.
00:44:51.370 --> 00:44:52.951
No one was being robbed.
00:44:52.951 --> 00:44:56.109
There was no claim that they harmed me.
00:44:56.109 --> 00:45:00.474
We died, my father died, nothing, so conspiracy charges a joke.
00:45:00.474 --> 00:45:01.885
We died, my father died, nothing, so conspiracy charges are a joke.
00:45:01.885 --> 00:45:02.990
We need to get rid of that.
00:45:02.990 --> 00:45:07.825
It was set up because of drug dealers.
00:45:07.825 --> 00:45:13.058
They could grab them without having much evidence, which isn't right.
00:45:13.058 --> 00:45:16.274
I met guys in jail that were grabbed.
00:45:16.274 --> 00:45:22.334
They said because you might sell cocaine one day for arresting you.
00:45:22.334 --> 00:45:24.017
They weren't caught with cocaine.
00:45:24.017 --> 00:45:25.860
I mean crazy.
00:45:25.860 --> 00:45:30.801
So July 8th comes along 2020.
00:45:31.445 --> 00:45:36.998
Jordan and Jonathan are raided at the home church in Bradenton, florida.
00:45:36.998 --> 00:45:46.235
Abc helicopter, us Marshals, epa sheriffs, local police TV station.
00:45:46.235 --> 00:45:49.440
About 12 different agencies were there.
00:45:49.440 --> 00:46:09.727
They raided the church, took all our computers, which are church computers, with church list of people that are members, which is it's protected, just like a doctor and his patient or a lawyer and his client and they took all that, took our phones, took uh money in our safe.
00:46:09.727 --> 00:46:17.071
We didn't have a lot but we used a lot of that to help other people because we helped a lot of people as a church.
00:46:17.071 --> 00:46:18.636
But they left the guns.
00:46:18.636 --> 00:46:21.572
The guns were licensed guns.
00:46:21.572 --> 00:46:26.154
Okay, you want me to stop there, in case you have other questions.
00:46:26.174 --> 00:46:27.046
You're doing great, I guess.
00:46:27.046 --> 00:46:37.193
There's one other detail I think is at least especially for my audience, for people that appreciate there's a force that does not want this to come out.
00:46:37.193 --> 00:46:44.152
And so you had one story I've heard you tell where you got a phone call, I guess while Jim was with you, from somebody you called James Bond.
00:46:44.152 --> 00:46:45.610
Actually called you twice.
00:46:45.610 --> 00:46:51.554
But what I hope to have people see from somebody who's lived it is how pervasive this idea is.
00:46:51.554 --> 00:47:04.580
You even have a chapter in your book Imagine a World Without Disease about the number of people who have come up with or found genuinely helpful natural cures or things that dramatically benefit health and they just end up dead.
00:47:04.580 --> 00:47:08.276
So give people a sense of the sinister nature of that.
00:47:08.276 --> 00:47:10.934
What's your estimate for how pervasive that problem is?
00:47:12.125 --> 00:47:13.890
Well, before I tell you that story.
00:47:13.890 --> 00:47:15.576
They tried to kill me twice.
00:47:15.576 --> 00:47:20.869
They tried to blow up our car on the way to a seminar.
00:47:20.869 --> 00:47:28.955
A black suburban is following us and about six car lengths back in Arkansas, right.
00:47:28.955 --> 00:47:39.104
And as soon as we hear this, what it did was they put something underneath on the tie rod to melt the tie rod.
00:47:39.104 --> 00:47:56.189
I can get into detail about that, but immediately the suburban took off into the distance, we pulled over, the tire fell off and we would have flipped if the tire fell off, but centrifugal force basically kept us alive till we could slow down.
00:47:56.189 --> 00:48:03.153
But um, then they poisoned me and brought the way out to mexico and chlorine dioxide saved my life.
00:48:03.153 --> 00:48:12.998
They poured it down my throat because I was completely paralyzed, couldn't move, couldn't talk, and, uh, they poured it down my mouth and all this green stuff came up.
00:48:12.998 --> 00:48:25.431
And that's another story that's more detailed, but it's in my book Basically a Russian spy, and I know it was because I cured the person of hepatitis.
00:48:25.431 --> 00:48:26.591
Is that crazy?
00:48:26.591 --> 00:48:30.213
When I say I cured, I don't cure anybody Either.
00:48:30.213 --> 00:48:32.074
This chlorine dioxide cure anybody.
00:48:32.074 --> 00:48:37.517
The body cures itself after you take the toxins out that are causing the problem.
00:48:38.117 --> 00:48:45.160
So, james Bond okay, jimmy, just got there, I get this phone call.
00:48:45.160 --> 00:48:51.343
We did have phones in my little office up in the mountain and I get this phone call.
00:48:51.343 --> 00:48:55.674
This guy calls me and says I'd like to talk to Jim.
00:48:55.674 --> 00:48:57.424
I go well, you know I can show him.
00:48:57.424 --> 00:48:59.893
No one gets to him and cause him a problem.
00:48:59.893 --> 00:49:01.951
So who is this?
00:49:01.951 --> 00:49:04.236
My name is Dr Michael Merring.
00:49:04.236 --> 00:49:07.749
I said okay, what do you want?
00:49:07.749 --> 00:49:09.767
He goes well, I want to talk to Jim.
00:49:09.767 --> 00:49:11.326
I said well, he's busy right now.
00:49:11.326 --> 00:49:13.667
I'm screening all the calls and he was busy.
00:49:13.667 --> 00:49:14.885
I wasn't lying.
00:49:14.885 --> 00:49:17.268
And I said what do you got?
00:49:17.268 --> 00:49:17.721
He goes.
00:49:17.721 --> 00:49:18.985
Okay, who are you?
00:49:18.985 --> 00:49:20.210
I said Mark, rennie.
00:49:20.210 --> 00:49:20.481
He goes.
00:49:20.481 --> 00:49:22.346
Oh, jimmy told me about you.
00:49:22.346 --> 00:49:23.510
Nice to meet you.
00:49:23.510 --> 00:49:27.927
I appreciate you being there with him helping him.
00:49:27.927 --> 00:49:31.414
I said okay, so what's the problem we need?
00:49:31.414 --> 00:49:43.011
He goes tell Jim this that the Vatican Bank is going to go bankrupt, the Pope's going to resign, a king of Belgium, a queen of Netherlands is going to resign.
00:49:43.011 --> 00:49:46.543
Also, greece is going to.
00:49:46.543 --> 00:49:54.291
The banks are going to take 40% of the people's money, spain's going to collapse economy-wise.
00:49:54.980 --> 00:49:58.451
There was a couple other things I can't really remember off the top of my head.
00:49:58.451 --> 00:50:00.628
I think about it, but it's irrelevant.
00:50:00.628 --> 00:50:02.704
I said, okay, I'm writing this stuff down.
00:50:02.704 --> 00:50:09.362
Okay, whatever Thought, he was kind of a kooky guy, really Nice guy.
00:50:09.362 --> 00:50:15.234
So I tell Jim later on that afternoon hey, this guy didn't talk to Michael Merring.
00:50:15.234 --> 00:50:18.109
Michael Merring, really, this is what he said.
00:50:18.109 --> 00:50:19.882
Jim goes.
00:50:19.882 --> 00:50:20.846
You know who that guy was?
00:50:20.846 --> 00:50:21.207
I go.
00:50:21.207 --> 00:50:25.548
No, it's the guy that Eon Fleming wrote about, called James Bond.
00:50:25.548 --> 00:50:26.871
I know him.
00:50:26.871 --> 00:50:27.732
He goes.
00:50:27.732 --> 00:50:28.701
What I go.
00:50:28.701 --> 00:50:29.866
What did James Bond call me?
00:50:29.866 --> 00:50:31.786
He goes.
00:50:31.786 --> 00:50:32.047
What I go.
00:50:32.047 --> 00:50:33.436
What James Bond called me?
00:50:33.436 --> 00:50:33.798
He goes.
00:50:33.798 --> 00:50:34.120
Yeah, that's me.
00:50:34.120 --> 00:50:36.165
So all those things happen.
00:50:36.165 --> 00:50:38.906
Two years later I get another call.
00:50:38.906 --> 00:50:42.327
Right, hi, mark, this is Michael.
00:50:42.327 --> 00:50:43.102
I go.
00:50:43.102 --> 00:50:46.005
Yeah, I know who you are, jim, how you doing?
00:50:46.005 --> 00:50:47.421
He laughed I go.
00:50:47.421 --> 00:50:49.489
Why didn't you tell me you were James Bond?
00:50:49.489 --> 00:50:52.863
Am I sick and all that crap?
00:50:52.863 --> 00:50:53.646
Because I don't really care.
00:50:53.646 --> 00:50:57.280
I get away from all that stuff and really want to help mankind.
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:58.943
He was being.
00:50:59.584 --> 00:51:08.124
He was involved in getting hate put in africa he basically said I want to help heal mankind, so I go.
00:51:08.124 --> 00:51:12.834
Well, I appreciate that, but appreciate that, but all that stuff happened, man, that's crazy.
00:51:12.834 --> 00:51:13.621
He goes.
00:51:13.621 --> 00:51:16.250
Well, I've been watching you guys for two years now.
00:51:16.250 --> 00:51:17.765
This is what I want to do.
00:51:18.460 --> 00:51:26.284
We have two bearer bonds totally a number amount of $5 billion and a bearer bond is.
00:51:26.284 --> 00:51:28.651
You know, you got the bearer bond, you can cash it.
00:51:28.651 --> 00:51:31.408
Whoever has it, the bearer can cash it.
00:51:31.408 --> 00:51:39.812
He goes we're going to go up I'm in Italy, we're going to go up to Switzerland and we're going to cash these in.
00:51:39.812 --> 00:51:47.310
Okay, cool, he says we're going to give you $50 million because you guys are doing a good job.
00:51:47.310 --> 00:51:47.531
We have it.
00:51:47.531 --> 00:51:49.676
If you need any more, but take that as a down payment on what you guys are doing a good job.
00:51:49.676 --> 00:51:50.658
If you need it, we have it.
00:51:50.658 --> 00:51:57.584
If you need any more, but take that as a down payment on what you guys have been doing, go, go, go, get this done.
00:51:57.584 --> 00:52:01.688
Man, I've seen you guys are really shaking up people.
00:52:02.269 --> 00:52:06.286
I said, okay, buddy, sure, and he basically hung up.
00:52:06.286 --> 00:52:24.184
I told Jim two weeks later, three guys are going across the um italian alps into austria and there's a gunfight and they're killed and they got these fake parabons first of all.
00:52:24.184 --> 00:52:26.307
Why would they kill people with fake par?
00:52:26.307 --> 00:52:29.673
Anyways, because they were trying to defend themselves, I don't know.
00:52:29.673 --> 00:52:30.635
They're dead.
00:52:30.635 --> 00:52:39.303
And about six weeks after that, michael Merring is killed and wrote where he was staying in a hotel room.
00:52:39.303 --> 00:52:56.426
I'm thinking, man, hopefully that wasn't because of that phone call, because our phones are always tapped Like oh man, so anyways, that's the story of james bond.
00:52:56.446 --> 00:53:15.210
Yeah well, it just shows conjecture in there, but it does show a level of if you've been had two attempts on your own life and there is a rich history, as you document in your book, of a number of people trying to bring out legitimate cures that just end up dead or in an alley or completely silenced and deplatformed, debanked etc.
00:53:15.210 --> 00:53:15.852
Like you've been.
00:53:15.852 --> 00:53:22.069
It's just somewhat of a wake-up call to say this is real people and there are things out there that help.
00:53:22.069 --> 00:53:29.309
But you are going to have to be able to find other sources of information to get to what works and do so with some discernment.
00:53:29.349 --> 00:53:42.930
Right, and in my book, I went back 300 years to the beginning of the pharmaceutical medical industry and before that, christian, what did we do?
00:53:42.930 --> 00:53:45.927
Natural means.
00:53:45.927 --> 00:53:52.050
Hippocrates said food is your medicine and medicine's your food.
00:53:52.050 --> 00:53:56.205
And he cured a lot of people with raw milk and raw honey.
00:53:56.205 --> 00:53:58.229
Yeah, I drink raw milk.
00:53:58.229 --> 00:53:59.131
I got in my refrigerator.
00:53:59.131 --> 00:54:02.224
Right now I drink raw milk almost every day.
00:54:02.224 --> 00:54:04.629
It really, really is good for you.
00:54:04.629 --> 00:54:09.582
The bible says if you're blessed of god, your nation will flow with milk and honey.
00:54:09.582 --> 00:54:13.305
So Hippocrates was just doing what the Bible said.
00:54:13.925 --> 00:54:19.810
So let me fast forward, because I know time's slipping away here.
00:54:19.810 --> 00:54:20.771
Go for it.
00:54:20.771 --> 00:54:24.434
So my boys get arrested 30 days later.
00:54:24.434 --> 00:54:27.216
Well, I call as soon as I heard that.
00:54:27.216 --> 00:54:28.337
I call.
00:54:28.337 --> 00:54:29.277
His wife calls me.
00:54:29.277 --> 00:54:32.841
I call the embassy.
00:54:32.841 --> 00:54:33.423
Really, I call the sheriff.
00:54:33.443 --> 00:54:45.194
They wouldn't talk to me in Manatee County, which they're supposed to be representing, the Constitution Sheriff have more power than the president in their own country County, excuse me.
00:54:45.194 --> 00:54:48.305
So they said call the embassy.
00:54:48.305 --> 00:54:50.168
I call the embassy.
00:54:50.168 --> 00:54:50.850
Talk to us.
00:54:50.850 --> 00:54:53.000
Module, listen, they just kidnapped my kids.
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:53.722
What do you mean?
00:54:53.722 --> 00:54:57.288
Yeah, the us government bombarded justice.
00:54:57.288 --> 00:55:00.900
You guys just can't kidnap my sons.
00:55:00.900 --> 00:55:02.241
They're missionaries.
00:55:02.241 --> 00:55:04.041
Well, where do you live?
00:55:04.041 --> 00:55:18.186
Took my phone number where I lived and 30 days later they kick in the door and 6 am in the morning they take me away and go to Bogota, colombia.
00:55:18.186 --> 00:55:23.488
They paid a million bucks to keep me and my sons in Colombia.
00:55:24.088 --> 00:55:39.953
Why, well, I believe they didn't want us on the TV, on the radio, although I was from Columbia, I was doing interviews and they wanted you not to have a speedy trial so it'd be publicized because we get arrest.
00:55:39.953 --> 00:55:41.974
There was papers all over the world.
00:55:41.974 --> 00:55:46.656
We got the scammers that people claiming they're curing COVID.
00:55:46.656 --> 00:55:48.616
I've not got COVID.
00:55:48.616 --> 00:55:53.498
The scammers they're saying they're curing AIDS and malaria.
00:55:53.498 --> 00:56:04.865
So they didn't want us on TV and in fact, they wouldn't even let reporters come to the jail.
00:56:04.865 --> 00:56:06.670
I asked the warden hey, we have the right to be interviewed.
00:56:06.670 --> 00:56:07.552
No, no, you don't.
00:56:07.552 --> 00:56:10.387
Oh, that's pretty sick.
00:56:10.387 --> 00:56:12.988
You're supposed to have freedom of speech even in jail.
00:56:12.988 --> 00:56:15.847
No, you lost all your rights.
00:56:15.847 --> 00:56:18.025
Really, I couldn't vote.
00:56:18.025 --> 00:56:21.688
They don't even let me vote now on probation.
00:56:21.688 --> 00:56:22.751
Wow, isn't that sick.
00:56:23.212 --> 00:56:23.372
Yeah.
00:56:23.540 --> 00:56:26.089
So I spent two years there.
00:56:26.089 --> 00:56:31.409
But in Columbia I've got they want to give me two life sentences.
00:56:31.409 --> 00:56:45.195
They said and conspiracy, two life sentences, conspiracy, five years, conspiracy, contempt of court, two life consecutive sentences which you only get six months or a year.
00:56:45.195 --> 00:56:48.749
So you tell me, zach, what?
00:56:48.789 --> 00:56:49.291
are they doing?
00:56:49.331 --> 00:56:53.070
to me Was this judge, you know, set up to come after us.
00:56:53.070 --> 00:56:54.905
No one ever gets that.
00:56:54.905 --> 00:57:07.424
But because I was with all the drug dealers and they became my friends because I was treating them every day 40 to 50 guys with chlorine dioxide, we brought it in.
00:57:07.424 --> 00:57:08.508
We treated people.
00:57:08.508 --> 00:57:11.770
I got pictures of me there treating people.
00:57:11.770 --> 00:57:13.182
They liked me.
00:57:13.182 --> 00:57:18.496
They were billionaires, a lot of them, and, um, they liked me.
00:57:18.496 --> 00:57:27.683
I get this, even share the word of god with many of them, really all of them, because when they got treated I had some bible literature and I'd give it to them.
00:57:28.264 --> 00:57:35.103
So after two years they Department of Justice says we're going to bring them in.
00:57:35.103 --> 00:57:40.134
If they spent a million bucks, you want to bring them in for trial?
00:57:40.134 --> 00:57:41.301
Okay.
00:57:41.301 --> 00:57:46.332
So Columbia says you're not bringing anybody, we're not even going to exercise.
00:57:46.332 --> 00:57:54.613
In fact, we're going to let them go because we don'tite anybody that has a life sentence or a death penalty.
00:57:54.613 --> 00:57:57.022
What so?
00:57:57.022 --> 00:57:58.568
They drop the contempt charges.
00:57:58.568 --> 00:58:00.364
That's how important they are.
00:58:00.364 --> 00:58:01.849
Okay, we'll drop those.
00:58:02.330 --> 00:58:07.946
Boom, I'm on a private jet with the biggest drug dealers in Columbia Private jet three of them.
00:58:07.946 --> 00:58:12.964
One of them was my, the biggest one was my sell me.
00:58:12.964 --> 00:58:17.351
So we get there, they stretch it out.
00:58:17.351 --> 00:58:19.755
They send me to different parts of the country.
00:58:19.755 --> 00:58:22.225
I was at first in Miami with my sons.
00:58:22.225 --> 00:58:24.230
Then they say you're incompetent.
00:58:24.230 --> 00:58:25.722
Then she goes no, you're not.
00:58:25.722 --> 00:58:33.545
Then they say, yeah, you are, we're going to send you to fort worth, texas, but three nights stop to extend the trial.
00:58:34.066 --> 00:58:40.956
They did as much as they could until july 20th, july 17th, 2023.
00:58:40.956 --> 00:58:43.867
They said, okay, we're going to have a trial now.
00:58:43.867 --> 00:58:46.196
We're going to pick the jury next tuesday.
00:58:46.196 --> 00:58:48.463
We didn't have any lawyers.
00:58:48.463 --> 00:58:50.910
We're defending ourselves ourselves.
00:58:50.910 --> 00:58:51.772
She didn't want us to.
00:58:51.772 --> 00:58:53.345
She appointed us lawyers.
00:58:53.345 --> 00:58:54.911
You're not defending yourself.
00:58:54.911 --> 00:58:55.995
Yes, we are.
00:58:55.995 --> 00:58:57.801
It's a constitutional right.
00:58:57.801 --> 00:58:59.304
Get out of here.
00:58:59.304 --> 00:59:01.849
Lawyers, don't even sit next to us.
00:59:01.849 --> 00:59:03.332
You're not our lawyers.
00:59:03.332 --> 00:59:06.585
We're not accepting you because you have to sign to accept them.
00:59:06.585 --> 00:59:08.990
Nope, so she goes.
00:59:08.990 --> 00:59:11.154
Really, she's the chief justice.
00:59:11.154 --> 00:59:14.390
Her name is Cecilia Artonaga.
00:59:14.390 --> 00:59:23.172
She committed treason and many other things against us In the prosecution Homer and Shipley federal prosecutors.
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:29.166
They completely raped the Constitution and disregarded it.
00:59:29.166 --> 00:59:29.849
Put it that way.
00:59:29.849 --> 00:59:34.202
So she goes.
00:59:34.202 --> 00:59:34.804
We for starting the trial.
00:59:34.804 --> 00:59:36.909
At every hearing, we have our bible.
00:59:36.909 --> 00:59:40.017
We're preaching, quoting supreme court decisions.
00:59:40.017 --> 00:59:41.941
She doesn't listen to any of it.
00:59:41.941 --> 00:59:45.870
She even said to me I don't care what the constitution says.
00:59:45.870 --> 00:59:56.711
I said you're telling me, according to article 6 of the Constitution, you're supposed to have an oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.
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Can you show me that?
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She just looked at me like a calf looking at a new gate or a deer, and she wouldn't answer.
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I said well, let the record reflect that the judge is done response.
01:00:07.987 --> 01:00:08.349
I asked her again.
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She wouldn't answer.
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I said well, let the record reflect that the judge is non-responsive.
01:00:10.200 --> 01:00:11.723
I asked her again.
01:00:11.723 --> 01:00:12.527
She wouldn't answer me.
01:00:12.527 --> 01:00:15.923
I had someone check it out.
01:00:15.923 --> 01:00:22.255
There's no record of her ever doing an oath or affirmation, as federal judging is supposed to.
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That's just one thing.
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That could be a whole podcast episode unto itself.
01:00:28.249 --> 01:00:31.689
When you unpack that, that's a heck of a different way.
01:00:31.689 --> 01:00:45.396
Like most, people do not know how to stand on their constitutional rights or how to pigeonhole the judge into making sure that they will honor the Constitution, or, by their silence, and in some ways agree that that's what it is.
01:00:45.396 --> 01:00:48.930
So, anyway, I would love to unpack that, but keep going with your story.
01:00:48.990 --> 01:01:01.716
Okay, so it's dry we say we will not participate then in this trial, unless we have a seventh amendment trial by jury under common law you're gonna have a trial.
01:01:01.716 --> 01:01:02.518
No, we're not.
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We're not gonna participate unless it's under common law, because we need a viable claim present that we harmed another man, a woman, not a government.
01:01:12.555 --> 01:01:27.743
You can't cut, you can't harm a corporation, a man, a woman that we've harmed, just like deuteronomy 19 says bring him forth, never brought him forth, because if you're not bringing him forth we will not participate.
01:01:27.743 --> 01:01:30.451
We didn't chose the jury, she chose them all.
01:01:30.451 --> 01:01:43.535
So you can imagine they stacked it with pharmaceutical people, law people, nurses, law officials, all kinds of people like that.
01:01:43.535 --> 01:01:52.822
Last of the day, they did not show any exculpatory evidence, which is they have to show stuff in favor for us.
01:01:52.822 --> 01:01:53.924
Didn't show any.
01:01:53.924 --> 01:01:58.233
And just as the jury's getting ready to deliberate, she goes.
01:01:58.233 --> 01:02:06.113
Her instructions do not consider the First Amendment, I haven't written it out.
01:02:06.113 --> 01:02:07.621
I haven't written it out.
01:02:07.621 --> 01:02:09.283
It's on file.
01:02:09.283 --> 01:02:12.527
They're not considering the First Amendment in this case.
01:02:12.527 --> 01:02:15.410
They're trying to come up with a verdict.
01:02:16.011 --> 01:02:17.493
So they left 15 minutes later.
01:02:17.493 --> 01:02:27.783
They came back, guilty in all counts, 15 minutes, right, okay, talk about a setup, talk about being railroaded.
01:02:27.783 --> 01:02:30.812
This railroad, this train didn't even leave the station.
01:02:30.812 --> 01:02:46.411
They went out 15 minutes later back, and so I was guilty of the only one they had left conspiracy to commit fraud which we didn't, to defraud the United States of America five years.
01:02:46.411 --> 01:02:56.447
The boys didn't have the conspiracy charges dropped, so they got five years plus another 91 months for contempt of court.
01:02:56.447 --> 01:03:03.107
That's why they're still in jail and I'm out with my son, joseph, and so they got an appeal.
01:03:03.107 --> 01:03:14.367
Some public defender the head one saw all this and said I'll take the case and he wrote an 1100 page appeal but it could take up to two years.
01:03:14.367 --> 01:03:18.537
So we want a pardon from Trump.
01:03:18.557 --> 01:03:21.188
Yeah, understandably, because we did nothing wrong whatsoever.
01:03:21.188 --> 01:03:24.668
I don't know if I gave you the letter from Trump.
01:03:24.668 --> 01:03:26.131
Did I give you that letter?
01:03:26.231 --> 01:03:28.121
Yeah, I think so I'll put all this stuff in the show notes.
01:03:28.121 --> 01:03:30.962
So you guys, if you want to go deeper and look at all that, you'll have the link.
01:03:30.982 --> 01:03:32.122
People can send that in.
01:03:32.122 --> 01:03:36.525
They can send that in on behalf of the Groning family to Trump, to Bondi, to Kennedy.
01:03:36.525 --> 01:03:43.248
But so, in a nutshell, bro, that's what happened and it's real.
01:03:43.248 --> 01:03:44.588
It's real.
01:03:44.588 --> 01:03:55.173
The powers that be do not want us to have chlorine dioxide called by NASA the universal antidote.
01:03:55.173 --> 01:04:03.057
Nasa called it that because when they used chlorine dioxide on petri dishes against illnesses, it took care of all of them.
01:04:03.057 --> 01:04:05.318
They said it's a universal antidote.
01:04:06.038 --> 01:04:06.778
Yeah, right.
01:04:06.778 --> 01:04:18.011
Well, one more thing I want you to highlight, just so the listener can have a little more context for how egregiously you were treated.
01:04:18.011 --> 01:04:20.297
Tell them about the prison conditions and what was done to you and how you almost died in prison.
01:04:20.317 --> 01:04:20.819
Yeah well, it's horrible.
01:04:20.819 --> 01:04:24.206
I'll have to tell you, though, in Columbia it wasn't horrible.
01:04:24.206 --> 01:04:26.411
Being losing your freedom is horrible.
01:04:26.411 --> 01:04:31.190
They let my wife come in every two weeks visit for the whole day alone.
01:04:31.190 --> 01:04:33.367
So we had conjugal visits.
01:04:33.367 --> 01:04:36.790
The guys would provide steak, shrimp, we had chips.
01:04:36.790 --> 01:04:40.885
It was like something you'd see in the movies, but we couldn't leave.
01:04:40.885 --> 01:04:43.191
We had weightlifting places.
01:04:43.191 --> 01:04:50.320
Columbia was okay If you had money, and I had money, because the guys gave me everything I needed.
01:04:50.841 --> 01:05:01.588
So America, miami federal detention center is this I won't say hell, because hell is horrible.
01:05:01.588 --> 01:05:03.185
It was purgatory.
01:05:03.185 --> 01:05:07.189
Okay, it was a purgatorial place.
01:05:07.189 --> 01:05:08.660
We could strip search all the time.
01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:08.680
Buy.
01:05:08.680 --> 01:05:10.221
A lot of homosexuals would strip search us is a procuratorial place.
01:05:10.221 --> 01:05:10.700
We get strip shirts all the time.
01:05:10.700 --> 01:05:14.170
Why A lot of homosexuals would strip search us.
01:05:14.170 --> 01:05:20.390
The food on the boxes it says not fit for human consumption.
01:05:20.390 --> 01:05:24.449
Bro People, they wouldn't take care of you.
01:05:24.449 --> 01:05:28.767
The doctors, if you were sick, maybe would go see the doctor.
01:05:28.767 --> 01:05:35.934
Only if you really screamed and cried but you had a bad tooth, you're going to be in pain for a while.
01:05:35.934 --> 01:05:37.506
All that will do is pull it.
01:05:37.506 --> 01:05:40.309
You might wait six weeks Bad.
01:05:40.860 --> 01:05:46.513
So I was supposed to be let out because of this program they had.
01:05:46.513 --> 01:06:04.329
I was going to get let out even before joe, about two months after they sentenced us to 2023, and I was all psyched because I was going to get up, start fighting for the boys right, and doing what we're doing right now doing interviews.
01:06:04.329 --> 01:06:14.108
So the day before, maybe a week before, they said, uh, once in a week was a was a few days, it was getting packed, mr Grannon, we do.
01:06:14.108 --> 01:06:15.784
We got rid of that program.
01:06:15.784 --> 01:06:17.550
Like what?
01:06:17.550 --> 01:06:19.545
How can you just get rid of it?
01:06:19.545 --> 01:06:25.413
You're headquarters of the Bureau of Presidents, told me I'm eligible, you can lie into me.
01:06:25.413 --> 01:06:29.088
Ah well, you're not going, we don't care, okay.
01:06:29.749 --> 01:06:40.084
So my boys, that's the only thing that's good about Miami we're all together, two in each room, but we stay together, me and my sons, we cook together.
01:06:40.084 --> 01:06:46.865
We had to pay a lot of money to buy commissary, owned by the Bush family, get that one.
01:06:46.865 --> 01:06:51.596
So we buy tuna and I really hate tuna, but I learned to eat it in prison because family Get that one, right.
01:06:51.596 --> 01:06:56.085
So we buy, you know, tuna and I really hate tuna, but I learned to eat it in prison because it's real protein.
01:06:56.085 --> 01:07:01.502
We'd cook it in our sinks for hot water, make like a macaroni with tuna.
01:07:01.502 --> 01:07:03.802
We had to get some cheese, some olive oil.
01:07:03.802 --> 01:07:08.767
Anyways, we did okay, somewhat, but the food they gave us horrible.
01:07:09.281 --> 01:07:09.947
So what happened?
01:07:09.947 --> 01:07:13.124
That day or soon thereafter I went.
01:07:13.124 --> 01:07:18.034
The bible even says hope deferred make it the heart sick.
01:07:18.034 --> 01:07:20.840
That's exactly what happened to me.
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.446
I had this hope, this thing that I'm gonna go get out.
01:07:25.347 --> 01:07:33.144
Boom, and the valve in my heart, the mitral valve in my heart, ruptured Just like flapping in the wind.
01:07:33.144 --> 01:07:35.491
It's supposed to be stomping the blood.
01:07:35.491 --> 01:07:37.243
This was like this.
01:07:37.243 --> 01:07:39.530
It was regurgitating, they call it.
01:07:39.530 --> 01:07:41.985
I blew up like the Michelin man.
01:07:42.607 --> 01:07:45.622
My stomach, my legs, I was slurred.
01:07:45.622 --> 01:07:48.611
It was horrible, couldn't breathe, put pressure.
01:07:48.611 --> 01:07:50.606
I'm saying I need to talk to the doctor.
01:07:50.606 --> 01:07:51.750
Yeah, you'll be okay.
01:07:51.750 --> 01:07:54.167
No, I may have to tell you I can't breathe.
01:07:54.488 --> 01:07:55.050
And it got worse.
01:07:55.050 --> 01:07:56.786
It was last about six weeks.
01:07:56.786 --> 01:07:58.787
The last two weeks I was suffering.
01:07:58.787 --> 01:08:01.688
Joe, my son was up top bunk.
01:08:01.688 --> 01:08:02.330
He got dead.
01:08:02.330 --> 01:08:03.901
He said I can't breathe, john.
01:08:05.324 --> 01:08:07.406
Finally I pushed the emergency button.
01:08:07.406 --> 01:08:09.690
They come over.
01:08:09.690 --> 01:08:10.411
What's wrong?
01:08:10.411 --> 01:08:12.534
You're not having a heart attack?
01:08:12.534 --> 01:08:16.422
I said I think I am my heart's at 175.
01:08:16.422 --> 01:08:19.145
I didn't know what it was, dying, but I said it feels like it's coming out of my chest.
01:08:19.145 --> 01:08:20.686
I can't breathe.
01:08:20.686 --> 01:08:22.989
They're like God.
01:08:23.051 --> 01:08:26.775
They brought me to the doctor and the doctor's like, hey, you're going to die.
01:08:26.775 --> 01:08:28.643
Call the ambulance.
01:08:28.643 --> 01:08:31.291
So they rushed me to Jackson Memorial Hospital.
01:08:31.291 --> 01:08:36.372
When I got there, the emergency doctor said why'd you wait so long?
01:08:36.372 --> 01:08:37.786
I said I haven't been waiting.
01:08:37.786 --> 01:08:39.998
The jail wouldn't bring me here.
01:08:39.998 --> 01:08:42.347
They wouldn't even doctor wouldn't even see me.
01:08:42.347 --> 01:08:44.265
I wrote the doctor too.
01:08:44.265 --> 01:08:45.789
I got those emails.
01:08:45.789 --> 01:08:50.371
Now he goes, well, we'll take care of you.
01:08:51.020 --> 01:08:52.546
So they did an echocardiogram First.
01:08:52.546 --> 01:08:55.643
They stopped my heart and they redid it.
01:08:55.643 --> 01:08:56.969
They restarted it.
01:08:56.969 --> 01:09:02.085
It set the rhythm again, it went back to normal, but I still blowed it up.
01:09:02.085 --> 01:09:05.600
And so the echocardiogram they go.
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:06.404
That's the problem.
01:09:06.404 --> 01:09:09.067
Right there I'm looking at it Inside my heart.
01:09:09.067 --> 01:09:10.259
That valve is just flapping.
01:09:10.259 --> 01:09:11.782
So they go.
01:09:11.802 --> 01:09:13.105
We got to do open-heart surgery.
01:09:13.105 --> 01:09:14.487
Like what?
01:09:14.487 --> 01:09:16.512
I feel good, I'm lifting weights.
01:09:16.512 --> 01:09:21.047
You know, before I got that happened, we were working out every day.
01:09:21.047 --> 01:09:22.309
We were strong.
01:09:22.309 --> 01:09:24.699
My boys are doing one-arm pull-ups.
01:09:24.699 --> 01:09:30.061
I mean, no one screwed me, not because, not because of our preaching the gospel.
01:09:30.061 --> 01:09:36.384
I had three bodyguards my sons, but no one really were friendly with everybody.
01:09:36.384 --> 01:09:37.885
We were in the chapel.
01:09:37.885 --> 01:09:40.067
We never had a problem.
01:09:40.067 --> 01:09:40.606
But you could.
01:09:40.606 --> 01:09:42.987
If you were alone you could have a problem.
01:09:42.987 --> 01:09:55.432
So, anyways, they did the open-eyed surgery the open like a lobster as they say in Boston and it took a recovery.
01:09:55.432 --> 01:09:59.234
It's been a year now, as of February, and it was a recovery.
01:09:59.875 --> 01:10:01.795
I had to learn to walk again.
01:10:01.795 --> 01:10:05.217
I went down 135 pounds.
01:10:05.217 --> 01:10:07.077
I was skin and bones.
01:10:07.077 --> 01:10:10.879
Now, I hate to say it, I'm 195.
01:10:10.879 --> 01:10:13.862
But I feel good Riding my bike.
01:10:13.862 --> 01:10:24.912
I'm doing push-ups, I'm drinking raw milk, eating steaks, I'm eating the stuff I tell people to eat to build their nutrition in their body.
01:10:24.912 --> 01:10:29.067
And so that's my story, bro.
01:10:29.067 --> 01:10:37.268
And we're begging people, beg, you know, really sincerely asking please get this letter, send it in.
01:10:37.268 --> 01:10:45.646
The addresses are there, just fill it out, put a little cover letter on behalf of the Gretchen family Envelope, send it off.
01:10:45.646 --> 01:10:55.754
And please, because we're asking people, trump, president Trump, kennedy, bondi, help us.
01:10:55.754 --> 01:10:58.366
We didn't do anything wrong, nothing wrong.
01:10:58.366 --> 01:10:59.490
We've been missionaries.
01:10:59.490 --> 01:11:02.670
Not one of us has a record whatsoever.
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:07.971
They didn't even give us leniency First offender, Nothing bro.
01:11:07.971 --> 01:11:10.907
They gave us the max of everything.
01:11:10.907 --> 01:11:19.027
Yeah, you get in the crosshairs of the wrong people and there's a different justice system that they put you into and it's not got the word justice in it.
01:11:19.027 --> 01:11:21.987
It's just a system and you fell into it.
01:11:21.987 --> 01:11:24.559
So they demonetized you.
01:11:24.559 --> 01:11:26.859
I think they stopped social security payments.
01:11:26.859 --> 01:11:29.180
They basically just tried to bankrupt you completely.
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.062
Yep social security.
01:11:32.062 --> 01:11:39.785
I finally got it back about November because I've been a missionary A few months being a missionary.
01:11:39.785 --> 01:11:42.847
I don't get my social security because I didn't pay taxes.
01:11:43.187 --> 01:11:43.447
Yeah.
01:11:43.647 --> 01:11:57.694
So we have a gifts and go site that generous people around the world have given to and basically every month, almost to the penny, it takes care of all the needs of us in jail, as well as the families.
01:11:58.134 --> 01:11:58.814
Yeah, yeah.
01:11:58.814 --> 01:12:06.298
So if any of you listening are inclined to be helpful, to give them the Give Send, Go where to go on there, if you know it by heart.
01:12:08.220 --> 01:12:32.659
Otherwise I'll just put it in the show notes yeah, it's a wwwgivesendgocom, all one word, givesendgocom, forward slash capital G nine, capital A, capital T nine, g nine, a T nine and, like you said, you have a link right.
01:12:34.224 --> 01:12:42.804
I will amplify this everywhere I can because it is egregious what has happened to you and you have done nothing but God's work, trying to help and heal literally I don't know how.
01:12:42.804 --> 01:12:47.086
I mean, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say millions of people have been helped.
01:12:47.942 --> 01:12:56.115
Yeah, millions have been helped and it's incredible what's happened to us, bro.
01:12:56.356 --> 01:12:59.905
People can also get your books as well, right, they can get those online.
01:12:59.905 --> 01:13:01.864
Yeah, I sent you the link.
01:13:01.864 --> 01:13:05.582
Okay, so we'll get you links to get his books and you can also contribute to him that way.
01:13:05.582 --> 01:13:17.963
But anything you can do, please amplify this, please share this episode, help this story get out so much that they cannot make it go away, because if we do not stand up against things like this, then we're next.
01:13:17.963 --> 01:13:21.191
So please, whoever is out there, do your part.
01:13:21.699 --> 01:13:31.626
We'll say this one last thing Many, many men came to know the Lord by us being in jail, so God wanted us in the prison ministry for a while.
01:13:31.626 --> 01:13:32.669
That's all I can tell you.
01:13:33.130 --> 01:13:35.226
Right, you and Paul and Peter and many others.
01:13:35.226 --> 01:13:38.705
It's just part of the life, so we'll talk more about this.
01:13:38.705 --> 01:13:41.759
If you think this was a whopper episode, wait till you hear what we have to say next.
01:13:41.759 --> 01:13:46.066
The amount of stuff he's experienced as a missionary will blow your mind.
01:13:46.066 --> 01:13:57.360
So to wrap this one up, is blow your mind.
01:13:57.380 --> 01:13:59.166
So to wrap this one up, is there anything else you want to leave the listener with?
01:13:59.166 --> 01:13:59.487
Before we wrap?
01:13:59.487 --> 01:14:00.049
Pray for us people, please.
01:14:00.049 --> 01:14:01.173
If you're a praying person, pray, pray and pay attention.
01:14:01.173 --> 01:14:03.339
Get the books, because this can save your life or someone you know, I don't care what it is.
01:14:03.339 --> 01:14:11.310
If you learn the protocols, which is simple, this can save your life and restore your health from any illness.
01:14:11.831 --> 01:14:13.032
Yep, all right.
01:14:13.032 --> 01:14:14.774
Well, mark, thank you so much for joining me today.
01:14:14.774 --> 01:14:19.713
It's such an honor to have you, and I'm eager to amplify this, so we will talk again soon.
01:14:19.713 --> 01:14:20.998
Thank you, christian.