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It happened again like three years later.
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And then the same scenario, then I realized at that time I'm in a spaceship.
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I'm in a spaceship with light workers.
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This plane is all women.
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That spaceship over there is all men.
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And so I'm not sure how all everything was being separated, but we were taken to another planet.
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And what happened?
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I saw Earth imploding, totally imploding.
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And then another Earth right beside it was created in three days.
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And we were all taken back and put it in place like nothing had ever happened.
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So, welcome to another episode of Cosmic Conversations.
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Tonight we explore one of the most mysterious and profound areas of human experience.
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What really happens when our reality appears to overlap with something beyond our normal perception?
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My guests today are two incredible women who bring very different but deeply connected perspectives rather to this conversation.
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Joining me is Tina Briggs, who has been experiencing a series of extraordinary encounters in her bedroom at night, including encounters with beings she identifies as extraterrestrial, as well as what she described as holographic military figures appearing within her experience.
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Alongside Tina is Dr.
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Gail McLeod, an author and researcher who spent years exploring consciousness, extraterrestrial contact with beings she identifies uh extraterrestrial contacts with her own extraordinary experiences, including encounters she describes as involving spacecraft, advanced technology, and interactions with non-human intelligences.
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In this conversation, we'll explore Tina's experiences and what she's been witnessing, the emotional and spiritual impacts of these encounters, how we interpret experiences that challenge our understanding of reality, Gail's own journey and her insights she's gained through her experiences, and whether there are patterns connecting human consciousness with contact experience.
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Are these encounters happening in physical reality, consciousness or somewhere in between?
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What can we learn when we approach these experiences with curiosity and an open mind?
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So join us as we step beyond the extraordinary and explore the mysteries of contact consciousness and the unknown.
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So welcome to Cosmic Conversations.
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Let's say some kind of beginning there.
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Hi.
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Let's hope that we do cover off all of that today.
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We probably will only just scratch the surface with it.
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But it's just lovely to get you both together.
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Um, I feel very excited about this conversation today because uh I'll I'll give the the backstory to it all.
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Because I I was away in the southwest of France enjoying myself, um, sitting by the pool reading Dr.
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Gale's books, uh, How I Met an Alien and How I Learned to Fly a Spaceship.
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And Tina contacted me.
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And um it was interesting because I was at one of the chapters where I think that you'd been rescuing an alien from a military facility, Dr.
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Gale.
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And Tina was like, Oh my god, I've just seen um the you know Steven Spielberg's film uh um Disclosure Day, and I had a really emotional uh encounter with it, and then relayed back some of these experiences that she's had in her bedroom of seeing these military figures.
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And I'm like, I've got to get these two together because you know, Tina obviously is ha has been having these experiences for such a long time, and Gail, you know, also has, but you you you've almost you know got your accolades and your and your medals and your medallions and your and your promotions through all the different you know spaceships that you've worked on along the way.
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So I just felt that this was going to be one of those conversations that's gonna be deeply enlightening for not only you two, but also for anybody who's watching it as well.
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So if we can start with you, Tina, can you take us back to the very first time that this started happening?
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What was the experience that made you realize that this was something completely different from an ordinary dream or your imagination?
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So it started probably around 2019.
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I started doing meditations with my eyes closed, and um, I was having these experiences of beings around me.
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And um then fast forward to 2021, I decided to open my eyes in my bedroom one night, and they were still there, and it was holographic um beings, and they there are three different groups, but the two that stand out to me the most, um, especially with the movie that I just saw, are the military.
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They they are almost in holographic form.
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I feel like I'm laying on the ground and that they're all around me, and they can't believe that I can see them.
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They'll wave others over and they'll get their phones out and take pictures.
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Um, and I always kind of just do like a peace sign, heart wave.
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I I don't want any problems.
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I'm just like, I don't know how I'm seeing you either, but here I am and there you are.
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Um, so that's the one that really that's when I lost it.
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I was watching it with my husband and I just lost it, like like it's not coming out, like the whole just it was very, very emotional because I'm like, oh my gosh.
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And usually when that happens, I'm holding one of my Lemurian crystals.
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And so was that the military, our military or yes, yeah, definitely US military.
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Um, they look more like desert storm gear, like they're you know, bigger, clunkier, old school.
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Um but I don't I I don't know enough about it to know what I'm looking at.
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I just know I've been experiencing it for many years and don't really know what to think of it.
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Okay, so I'll throw that over to you, gal.
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Then what like what do you feel like this is?
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Is it is this a similar thing to what you experienced initially as well?
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No, not at all.
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That's totally different.
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My um my first experience was um, you know, contact with my dad, and then he'd introduced me to an angel, and then started with extraterrestrials.
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And so my only contact with the government was trying to figure out how to rescue these ETs that have been captured in these military facilities and were sick and dying.
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So that was my only connection to the military.
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Now, all the different species has their own military, and I would say I was most connected to the gray hybrid military, so um, but not our military.
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How interesting.
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So completely different militaries there.
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So in in which case then, why do you feel, Tina, that the you know, that the US military uh have been sort of almost spying on you?
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They're remote viewing her, yes.
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That's what they're doing.
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That is that what they're doing.
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Yeah.
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Now I have had an incident where which I'm gonna have a regression therapy about because it's has stuck with me for several years now.
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That somebody I woke up and somebody was lying in bed with me who was testing me, and it was a remote viewer, and I know what he looked like, and he was shocked that I woke up, but he was also shocked at all the information I had.
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And so I'm I'm I'm guessing Tina has a lot of information she doesn't even know she possesses that they're interested in.
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How do you feel about that?
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I was in special programs by um a psychic and a healer, but I don't know what those special programs are, at least not my you know, not my waking consciousness.
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I don't know.
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Special programs are working with the extraterrestrials, teaching you, and I did not know this myself until um fairly recently that I thought I did not have contact until 2020 with extraterrestrials, and then I found out, which I've written in my my last book here, talking about when it did start, or I maybe it was my second book because talked about when it started, and I was going up as an infant.
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They were teaching me how to walk through walls, they were teaching me how to go invisible, they were teaching me all these different things, but the guy that was in bed with me was interested in the different star systems that I knew, that I don't even really know star systems.
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I can't look up in the sky, but I was drawing star systems for him that are not even on our radar, and I had that I had that knowledge stored in me, and that's what he was interested in in remote viewing, and that's what he the information he was trying to get out of me.
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And so, and and just recently um I remember another time that, and this correlates this when I was learning how to walk through walls, because uh years ago I said I was about nine years old when they were teaching me how to do that, and then all of a sudden, just the past couple of weeks, I remember an incident when I was in the fourth grade, which was about nine out nine, where I was in the classroom and they took me, they took me out of my classroom, everything went black, dark with me, and nothing changed when I came back out of it, and I didn't much of it except for I actually I thought I had some kind of medical issue going on, but I didn't talk to anybody about it.
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But now I'm seeing where I was taken up at a um gray um ship because the beings that were there were my height.
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I was in fourth grade and said they were my height, and uh they were all we were walking down like a cylinder type hallway, and they were bouncing off all over the place, excited to see me.
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And I was excited to see them too.
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And I was just walking down there, and there was just they were they were on the ceilings, they were on the walls, they were everywhere around me as I walked down the hallways, they were celebrating, and that's just very recent memory within the last couple of weeks.
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How interesting.
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So, so you were just sitting there at school one minute doing your maths, and then the next thing you're there on the spaceship.
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And um for years, all of for me was I blacked out, but I didn't faint or anything.
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I just blacked out everything went dark for me, and then when everything came back light, I was still in the classroom and nothing had changed.
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And so now, just within the last couple of weeks, I have been shown what actually happened during that time.
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Why that I'm being shown that now, I have no idea, but that's what happened is they took me when I was in the fourth grade, and that was about the time I was learning how to walk through walls.
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So it core the time correlates that.
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Yes, I knew I was about nine years old when I was learning how to do that fourth grade.
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I was about nine years old when they took me out of the classroom, and obviously we're probably that's probably when they taught me how to do that.
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But I was so used to them, I was excited to see them.
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I was walking down the hallway with them bouncing off all the walls, it's celebrating that I was there, and I was just happy to be there, happy go lucky, walking in the hallway.
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So, do you feel then that these this secret um missions or these this this secret program that Tina was involved with, that a lot of it is uh will have happened in the same way that that happened to you, where you know she may have blacked out or she may have everything might have gone black.
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She may have been taken when she least expected it.
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And and this is why maybe she's being triggered by disclosure day.
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Yeah, I'm gonna guess that's true because um of these military people are interested in the knowledge that she has that she doesn't know she has.
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I don't know all the knowledge that I possess either.
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Uh, so I think that's what it is.
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They're trying to um get that knowledge, figure out what that knowledge is.
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Now, since that man was in bed with me, I have put up so much protection around me and telling my um, you know, uh people watching over me, the ETs and everything, not to let him back in.
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Yeah, I think he's been back one other time.
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And since they let him in, I'm thinking he might not be bad, that there must be some kind of information that I'm needing to share.
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But it's something to do with the star systems that I have knowledge of that I have no clue of.
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And I'm not even, I don't even know where Orion is when you look at the sky.
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But I was sitting there just drawing all these different star systems from her that we've never heard of.
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So, how do you feel about that, Tana?
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So I don't feel like they want any harm done to me.
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I almost feel protected by them.
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And even if I go through an airport or something like that, it's like it's I I can't explain it.
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It's like I I do have like global entry, so that's the highest level you can get as a you know, a citizen.
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But I mean, it's like they just kind of look at they're like, okay, thanks.
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They never ask questions.
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I'm in and out of the country all the time.
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And it's just I don't know, you know, I know who I am here, but you know what I mean?
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It just it feels like you've always got somebody with you watching out after you.
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Yes.
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And it's not just um the military groups, there's a couple other um almost like hybrid groups that are with me as well.
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And they're they're with me almost every single night now.
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I'll get up to get a drink of water and there'll be one standing in the corner.
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I'm just like, and they don't look at me or anything unless I walk up and then they'll look at me.
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And I don't know.
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I'm just used to it now.
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It's just kind of my day-to-day.
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But it used to really freak me out.
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I would I would message Hayden in the middle of the night, I'm in my bathroom crying, I don't know what to do.
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Years ago.
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My reaction was never that.
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It's always been more of a collaboration that I had with them.
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So I never had the only time, only reaction I had was when the first gold being showed up in my living room.
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When I take that back, when my first being, uh, there's two other times.
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One, there was this aqua-colored being that she was standing in the doorway, and I was talking to two friends of mine in a metaphysical store.
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We were sitting under talking, and she showed up at the doorway.
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I was the only one that could see her, but that really freaked me out.
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And it actually took my emotions from crying to laughing within seconds.
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That's how she affected me.
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Can I ask you a question about that?
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So when you see them, do they look holographic or solid to you?
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Do they look, I mean, do they look like you and I look right now, or do they look more like you see through, but you can still see them?
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If I'm here, excuse me, in this world, I would say, oh gosh, it's hard to say.
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Maybe holographic, but more solid than holographic, but not so solid.
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That's a hard question to answer.
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But like when I'm moving up into their world, they definitely look solid to me.
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When I've gone up, uh, whenever I've been in meditation, um, and I've been up in shifts, um, I feel like the ship is a being.
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Like I've never seen other beings.
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And then, um, but something else is just coming to my mind right now.
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And I think I've shared this with you before, Hayden.
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Um, during meditation, um, we've like hooked up to something else, and I'm like opening a door and just like all the troops are on the go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
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And they're like jumping from one to another, like on like a mission or something.
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I don't know.
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But I've had this um in meditation multiple times where I'm like helping troops, and we're like up in space though, we're not right, definitely not here, but it's our troops.
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So, yes, and when I started, you might be the communicator, because when I started, I was the communicator that could telepathically communicate and also talk in English to the people who needed to speak English, like our troops or um somebody else who was uh human.
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And so that was the job they gave me in the beginning was when I was in a spaceship, I was the one that had to communicate with the people on the ground and in the spaceship, and I had to communicate with all of them because I had the ability to that's what I was trained with originally, was how to be able to communicate with all these different languages and do telepathic communication.
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But the fact that I had a strong English and I looked human, that was the strength that I had that they didn't have, and that's why I had that job on the spaceship.
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So it might be that you had something similar because that it was rushing people in, rushing people out, and I was the communicator between all that.
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Yeah, because Dr.
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Gail is an Arcturian hybrid, so you're more of a human Arcturian hybrid, aren't you?
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Um because you look human.
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Whereas Tina, you know, you've always had this deep connection with the Pleiades, haven't you?
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So potentially you may have been part of the the uh Pleiadian hybrid program or something like that, you know, where there's you always mentioned to me that there's an aspect of you that is almost like your sister that's observing you from the Piades.
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Her other aspect of herself, yeah.
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She is a Palladian hybrid or a yeah, a human.
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It's considered a human hybrid if you look human, and whatever if you look palladium, you'd be a called a Palladian hybrid.
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So because we both look human, we're considered human hybrids, and the other part is like your Palladian and me mocturian.
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So that's um so your gifts is because you look human, they're amusing you or not amusing you, you're collaborating and helping them and working with them.
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So because you can get in and out of places because you look human.
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Also, you can speak English very easily and connect with, say, the military here and them and whoever else might be working with you.
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So since you're on Earth, that's a lot of what you're probably doing, is just working with them.
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And I'm not blowing any covers or anything like that.
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I always feel like, well, if I'm in such a special mission, like I probably shouldn't be talking about that.
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Well, I started off that way myself too.
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Yeah, I didn't, I was writing everything down.
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That's they told me to write everything down, and then all of a sudden they were wanting me to go public, and I'm going public.
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And so then they said they want me to write a blog.
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And I said, I'm a terrible writer, I cannot write a blog.
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And I tried my first blog and I read it, and I went, that's the most boring write the written thing I've written.
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And I and the mission was not boring.
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So then that I um talked to them and said, Can I start a YouTube channel?
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Because they'll talk about it a lot easier than I could write about it.
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And so then I started doing little short videos, and I was really worried for a long time.
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I'm not worried at all anymore.
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I I know my protection and I know things, nothing has happened to me, and I've been on YouTube now for over five years.
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And so, um, you know, they kept me safe.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
00:21:54.880 --> 00:22:06.160
I think it's time, Tina, you know, for you to uh to come out of the Celestial closet and and start sharing you know the amazing experiences that you've been having as well.
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.799
And you might find that as you the more you share, the more memories will start coming up for you as well.
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:26.720
And I think what's really interesting about you is the fact that you use crystals as a tool to be able to access communication with not only the ETs but also other other uh humans as well, isn't that right?
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.079
You do as well, yeah?
00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:29.920
So you both use them crystal technology.
00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.200
At least 20 crystals sitting right here right now with me.
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:34.720
Yeah, nice.
00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:41.759
Yeah, there's a connection to everything between crystals and humans and ETs.
00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:45.359
Yes, I do a lot of my healing work with crystals.
00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.079
Yeah, so I'm really excited about them.
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:56.400
So the crystal uh that you use that seems to have a major impact that is almost like a multidimensional crystal is the one with the barcodes, isn't it, Tina?
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:58.880
Yes, you've always got that one quite close to you.
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:11.200
It and and that almost reminded you a little bit of the um mechanism or that technology that was in disclosure day, because you know that film really had an emotional reaction to you.
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.200
You started crying, didn't you, after you'd watched it?
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.599
Well, do you want to explain what happened?
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:22.799
Well, whenever she was um cloaking, um, before she even I've never seen the movie movie before.
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:28.480
And so they were grabbing the the crystal or whatever that was, and I said, Oh, she's about to cloak.
00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:29.440
That's so smart.
00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:31.200
And then boom, they can't see.
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:32.319
And I was like, Oh my gosh.
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:45.519
And that's when I started like getting the goosebumps, and then when you could actually see like the ETs, and especially when one of them was on the ground and like all the this different disclosures that were released.
00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:50.160
Um, I was just watching them and I just I felt myself in some of them.
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:58.160
Um, but I definitely felt compassion for you know what they've been through and what they're going through.
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:02.799
And I hope that it is brought to this the light, and I think it will be.
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.240
I think this movie is going to help that come forward even more.
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:16.079
But I've been shocked about how many people were shocked by that part of it because for me, that's what I was doing was rescuing those sick and dying ETs.
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.920
And I'm going, why is this so devastating to people?
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:33.119
You know, this this was my work for years was doing that because in the medical, but yeah, I find it interesting that you're saying is the code that made you went invisible because I never used the code to go invisible.
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.039
I used my mental capacity to go invisible.
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.920
So I didn't know that that was a code that like that that to grab that like that.
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.359
I didn't know that existed.
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.599
So that's interesting to hear.
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:47.680
You used magnets, didn't you?
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.759
In the books that I was reading, uh, you often took these magnets with you, Dr.
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:52.160
Gow.
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:53.440
What were they for?
00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:07.359
The magnets was to well, I'm not not the scientist on that, but it was to break up some kind of barrier between your energy to allow you to um to go up in the spaceship.
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:12.960
You know, how you see like on Star Trek and everything, how they go and they go down the ground and go up.
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:29.200
Well, it's the magnets that had to cut through some of the energy, or maybe it was a facility that I had to wave the magnet around the person or being so it could be go up into the spaceship, be beamed up in the spaceship.
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:30.400
That's cool.
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:31.839
That is cool, isn't it?
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:36.640
So it's all these amazings like almost superpowers that you you start remembering.
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.440
The uh the other thing is that you um a part of the film that triggered you, uh Dr.
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:49.279
Gail, was when you were uh seeing the two kids that were reunited and then they met back up later on down the track.
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.920
And that's very reminiscent of a relationship that you've got today with somebody.
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:58.480
Right, it is I wrote I've written that in this book that's coming out.
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:14.000
I'm going, holy crap, this is validating my chapter in my book when I saw that because yes, the very first time I was going up to the spaceship, I was an infant, and they brought me in what it was called a room, and they put us in a developer.
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:25.920
Well, I had we had there's probably about 20 developers in that room, and they look like incubators, and there's um I would and it's ETs that are holding these babies.
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:33.599
I and this boy were held by this one woman, one in each arm, and we were only human human babies in there.
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:35.039
Everything else is different.
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:43.680
And so this developer, we were put in and we were strapped up and around her head and down our back, and it developed us.
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:48.160
We were getting um techniques and learning all different things at this time.
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:56.799
So he was in there first, and then I would go in, and then they would take us and put us into um incubator after that.
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:03.759
It reminded me of a bouncy house, and we were little infants, and we couldn't even turn over anything because the the guy's name is Danny.
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.079
Danny says, Doesn't just try to kick you in the head all the time.
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.799
And I said, We were too little, we couldn't even move.
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:25.759
And anyway, so I had a regression therapy with Barbara Lamb and um wanted to know because I was having these memories coming back about my childhood going up, and and for me, I'm thinking, oh, I didn't start going working with them until in 2020.
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:33.039
Well, I found out with a you know the regression therapy that I was going up as an infant, and then all that memory started coming back.
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:40.880
But the boy that was going up with me met him years later, and um he started his own YouTube channel.
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:48.240
He's a tarot reader, he lives in California, he's on the West Coast, I'm on the East Coast, and I had started my YouTube channel.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:28:01.279
We met and he's had his extraterrestrial experiences, and so it I realized last year who that boy was, and it was him because we both have been learning the same things along the way.
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:14.720
Now we went to different things, like he is uh in a more diplomatic position, and I went medical and communication, and um, so but we have met since then, we've gotten back together.
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:20.880
So we went this ordinary life all our life until both of us started waking up.
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:25.279
Um, and then all of a sudden both of us started our YouTube channels, and then we met.
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.119
And so yeah, so it's it's pretty amazing.
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:59.680
So when I saw the disclosure that you're talking about showing those two kids, and I was going, oh my gosh, that's the same exact same thing, um, and not as movie movie work or whatever, you know, not but you know, I didn't start talking in well, it could be, you know, in tongue or whatever she was doing, but I was gonna say it could be because of everybody's going, I think this girl's crazy on this YouTube talking about all this stuff.
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:05.440
But anyway, so we did meet, and so that was very um, you know, hit home for me.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:14.000
It is very validating that I had already written about it in my book, and here it is, that validated that this is true, this is what was happening.
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.319
It's it's fascinating, isn't it?
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:24.640
So Tina, did you want to tell us more a little bit more about the types of aliens or ETs that you've been encountering and what they've shown you?
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:30.079
Um, because I know that they at some point they've been teaching you how to manipulate energy, haven't they?
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.640
Yeah, that's been a big one because I can't hear them.
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.319
I can just um read thoughts at this point because I've been used to them.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.400
But there's one group um of hybrids that come through.
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.720
Um, I'm guessing they're either Pleiadian or Octurians.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:50.400
I'm not quite sure.
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:56.880
Uh, but they're just very tall, uh, very well manicured, always look really nice.
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.440
They're always wearing glasses or sunglasses.
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:07.440
And they'll come and surround me like a big circle above my bed, and they won't bother me or anything.
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.759
They won't come up to me unless I look at one.
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.319
And when I look at one, it's almost like permission.
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:20.400
And then they'll come forward and then they'll come stand by me, and sometimes they'll teach me like how to do things with my hands.
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:25.920
Um, another thing I do before I even go into any meditation is I'll open a circle of protection.
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:37.039
So I know that these beings are here to help me and to teach me, and for me to teach them because and for the longest time I'm like, why are you here?
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:44.720
And they'll like shake their heads and like we're not understanding you, you're not understanding us.
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.480
So I would write down questions, why are you here?
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:51.519
Yeah, why me?
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.720
Why me?
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.079
Why me, yeah.
00:30:54.240 --> 00:31:05.839
And then uh it just got to a point where um now they'll they'll hand me things and I'll I've practiced um being able to grab them and then I'll hand it back.
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:12.319
Uh it's a whole thing, it's been like a whole thing for many years now, but it's I don't know.
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:19.039
I I love when they show up, like they they used to scare me to death, but now I'm I'm like, oh yay, my friends are here tonight.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:27.759
That's part of one of things I'm wondering if I had been scared in the past and why I didn't start remembering until 2020.
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:35.039
But you know, but then as I said, just last week, I'm seeing myself, I was happy to see them when I was on the spaceship.
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.119
So I don't know if that was the case or not.
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.680
Maybe I'm was scared of them in 3D.
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:46.079
I don't know, but it's amazing that both Danny and I's life changed.
00:31:46.240 --> 00:32:00.079
We both had ordinary lives, and then all of a sudden, boom, we're both on YouTube doing um doing a YouTube channel, which is out of the ordinary, talking about the things that we talk about, and then it's just everything just changed all at the same time.
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:09.839
So it's almost like it they've been training us for so many years, and then the trigger goes off, and that's about time for these two to uh start talking about the stuff.
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:10.720
Yeah.
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:31.839
And I think it's the more people come forward and talk about their experiences, the closer we'll be to an actual disclosure day where it's not so we're not so crazy or weird or whatever to have these experiences because I think everyone is having them on some level and they just don't want to talk about it.
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:32.400
Right.
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.119
Well, this is they're scared talking about this.
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:41.039
I think this we've been doing disclosure day for how long Hayden, how long have you been talking about the extraterrestrials?
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:53.119
Oh, you know, it's ever since I was oh well, I mean, properly like on YouTube when I left um IT recruitment back in 2016, I think it was.
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:54.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.039
So you know, I was just uh doing a regular job and you know, IT recruitment.
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:07.039
The next thing I'd left and I was doing these videos on on different types of starseeds, you know, which was completely off the radar.
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.839
Yeah, I was following Aiden during that time.
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:11.279
Yeah.
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:28.400
It's so interesting that we're almost called, uh, or as you say, we're we're we've been trained um on some level to um play a part in this this consciousness growth for the humanity, uh you know, almost like a soft disclosure in a way.
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:28.799
Right.
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.400
Well, it is because look now, there's three of us talking about it.
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.680
Whereas 2016, would you be sitting there talking about this kind of subject matter?
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.079
It just wouldn't have happened.
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.200
I I um I wouldn't have felt comfortable talking about it necessarily.
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:59.119
Um, I it's interesting though, because when you when you said that, you know, it took me right back to the days of live TV when I was working on um it was called the Wi-Files, it was a show, it was I was working for the Murray Group newspaper.
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:07.680
Yeah, and I had to interview people over the telephone who'd had ET encounters, and they always used to tell me these amazing stories like you two are telling me.
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.760
And I'd be like, I believe them.
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:16.719
And everyone else uh, you know, who was part of my team would be saying, Hayden, don't listen to them, they're all off their nuts, you know.
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:23.519
Just get the story, we'll create a little tacky narrative, you know, that they can bash together to be able to put on tabloid TV.
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.199
And it was almost like a form of ridiculing these experiences back there.
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:33.039
But deep down I knew that what they were saying was real because I could hear it in their voices, right?
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.280
You know, I can I can tell when someone's lying.
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:47.920
I mean, when they started ridiculing it when people started seeing things in the 40s and the 50s and it carried on, so people, you know, lost their jobs, lost their families and everything if they came out and talked about it.
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:59.360
So the more and more of us, so it's why I think we tiptoe into it because we've seen it, been you know, seen what's happened to other people, but now we're joining forces and we're supporting each other.
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.639
So I'm I'm considering this is disclosure.
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:08.320
And I keep hearing um they were teaching us to remember.
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:18.079
So it's not even we we already know this stuff, we're just remembering that we know it, and it's all coming back.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.480
It's all a big loop, you know, a big beautiful loop.
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:28.400
Well, I find it quite interesting as well, because one of the one of the most fascinating chapters of your book, Dr.
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:49.280
Gell, um, was where you were uh uh delivering the hybrid children to that family in somewhere in America, I can't remember where, and that you end up giving them two babies, and then they were going to have twins themselves, so they were gonna end up with four children over the space of you know, like a year or something like that.
00:35:49.519 --> 00:36:15.199
Now, what's fascinating about that was that these were hybrid children uh that looked more human and that they were able to be able to function normally on the earth, and they had to have all this baby formula after a year, yeah, they would be able to function, but they had a yeah, yeah, they had a stringent you know thing to go through for a year to acclimate them to earth, right?
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:33.360
Okay, yeah, because I know that they had that formula, that they had this special formula, and and it was interesting because you chose a particular couple that were had been trying for a baby themselves for such a long time and they hadn't been able to do it, and they were so delighted when you showed up and you were like, Well, look, here's a hybrid baby, it needs looking after.
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:41.840
And that, you know, first the the mother um met it, and then the father came home from work and met it, and they were like, We love, we love the baby, we want to take it, rah- rah-rah.
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:47.199
And they were a bit scared about telling the mother-in-law, um, you know, just in case she freaks out a little bit.
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:56.000
But how fascinating that there was a human couple that so readily readily were able to take in a hybrid child during that time.
00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:14.400
Now, the reason why I'm sort of bringing this story up is that is there a is there a potential, obviously, with knowing now that you two are both uh you know hybrids, um, potentially, Tina being a Palladian hybrid, you being the Arcturian hybrid, that you were delivered in in a similar way within your own lives.
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.480
I mean, what we what were your upbringings like?
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:17.920
What were your parents like?
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:30.159
Yeah, again, that that is in my third book, and I do know how, because I was working so much with these hybrids and delivering them, and you know, we were doing C-sections, and I was just all involved in that hybrid program.
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.360
And I started questioning my own um, you know, where did I come from?
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.480
How did this happen?
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:47.840
Mine, my mother came with to me, she had passed, and she told me that she had agreed to have a hybrid child if they allowed her to have another one or regular.
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.880
So you can think about how many people weren't able to get pregnant.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.920
All of a sudden they got pregnant and then they get pregnant again.
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:58.800
Think about all those people, but a lot of them had deals with the ETs.
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:06.159
But for mine, I've got my father's DNA, my mother's DNA, and then they added Arcturian DNA to it in her ovary.
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.920
So that's how they did me.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.119
Now there's so many different ways they do this.
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.360
So that is just one avenue, and that's how I was created.
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:20.320
And um, and then she was able to have another child.
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.239
I think it was like 13 months later, she had her own child.
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:35.039
So that's very much what that same couple went through, and I think that's what made me started questioning my own um origin when I was doing all these things.
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:41.280
Now you remember in the in that chapter when they first brought me that baby, I was going, am I to raise this thing?
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:46.159
They handed me a human-looking baby, and I'm going, Am I gonna raise it?
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:47.840
What am I supposed to do with this?
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:55.280
So I remember I remember that feeling so clearly, and I'm just going, Okay, here's another mission.
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.480
This is something different.
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.000
I'm raising a baby.
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.280
So do you do you know who that that family is now?
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.400
Do you are you still in contact with the woman dad have got the hybrid children?
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.480
Do you know who they are and where they live?
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:07.360
I do.
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.400
You don't, but obviously you you know that's all top secret.
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:10.880
Right.
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:11.519
Yeah.
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:16.000
But that's wonderful that you know that you could you could go and visit them if you needed to.
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.800
I do go visit them in my next book.
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.719
There's another another thing.
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:21.760
No, not about them.
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:23.280
It's not about this, another family.
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.519
It's the family the farm family.
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:34.559
Remember the farm family who was uh was um harboring escaped ETs.
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.639
I have a deal with them.
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:37.840
Yeah.
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:38.639
Amazing.
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:39.199
It's amazing.
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:40.400
So what about you, Tina?
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.079
What was your butt background then?
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:43.760
You know, like your upbringing.
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.239
Do you did you know, was there any un like unusual events that took place?
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.559
Or, you know, do you look like your parents?
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.920
Or I do look like my parents.
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.480
Um, they were kind of hippies, they smoked a lot of weed.
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:03.039
Um, so my dad is uh hilarious.
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:13.440
He likes to talk about, yeah, he likes to talk about aliens and stuff, but he's also got the you know, the Bible belt fear of God in him.
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.719
So he's very much like, you can't talk about this sort of thing.
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:22.400
So I couldn't be more different uh in one way, but we're also very similar.
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:31.599
We can talk on the phone for two hours about how he feels like whenever he has these dreams that he's a messenger from God and he flies in a spaceship.
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:32.960
I'm like, okay, duh.
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:34.880
All right, we're not that different.
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:36.800
So where do you live?
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.639
Um, I'm in Austin and he's in uh the Dallas area.
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.800
Okay, okay, okay.
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:43.760
Yeah.
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:52.800
Um, but yeah, I was delivered C-section, but I I know I'm, you know, my parents' kid because I do look like both of them.
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.440
So right, I'm a parents' kid, but they just add an ET um DNA to that.
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:03.199
Yeah, I you know, I that wouldn't surprise me because there's there's something different about me.
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.440
I know there is, but I just do you have any brothers and sisters?
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.480
I've got one biological brother, and then I've got a half brother and a half sister.
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.960
So was the biological one was that born pretty quickly after you were born?
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.400
Three years later.
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.480
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:21.760
And we look identical.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:22.320
It's weird.
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.840
If you put a wig on him, we would look like the same person.
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.239
It's it's kind of creepy.
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:29.519
Everybody says that.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:30.719
They're like, whoa.
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.840
So I wonder if you both are then.
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:34.480
That's interesting.
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:38.639
You might have been like, I don't know, split from the same cell or something.
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:39.920
Yeah, huh?
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:40.480
Maybe.
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.559
I mean, we we think alike, we talk alike, uh, laugh alike.
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:45.599
It's interesting.
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:46.880
What about missing time?
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.199
Did uh did you have missing time, Tina, in like during your earlier years?
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:52.239
I do.
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.320
A lot of it was um like middle school.
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.320
Well, actually, middle school and before that.
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.880
There's just been missing chunks of time.
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:10.239
Um, I was raised a lot by my grandparents because my mom and dad uh got divorced when I was really little.
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:34.159
And so I just traveled around in the RV with my grandparents and you know, but during the times I was with my mom, um, I don't really remember those times as much because there was some there was some trauma in my house too that I won't get into, but I definitely uh was disassociated, I guess.
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:42.000
I was gonna say, I think that is another thing about hybrids is they have an easy time disassociating.
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:53.599
And I and I don't know that that's truly because of just your trauma or just the fact that hybrids do have an easy time disassociating from what's going on around them.
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.599
I do think that's kind of a common thread.
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:18.639
Yeah, another I will say another kind of interesting thing that um has been happening for years is if I get sick or if I get down, um, the one group that comes in that teaches me stuff with my hands, they'll put hands on me and like I just start glowing from the inside out.
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.719
Like it's almost like a med bed or something.
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.360
They'll just come and just heal me.
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:23.920
Right.
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.000
And then I've been able to do that now with others with my hands.
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:29.760
So good.
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:36.800
And that's very similar to the work that you were doing on the uh Ashtar Medical one, isn't it?
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:41.039
You know, with working with a lot of medbed type technology and colored light therapy.
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:42.800
I didn't use medbeds.
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:52.639
Um, we used, I mean, we had different equipment, but I always associate meds more with the palladians.
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:59.280
Um, but I on the hybrid spaceship, we didn't have a medbeds or I didn't see a room with medbeds.
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:14.719
Um Now when I worked on the Athena, we did have a lot of um, and it wasn't called medbeds, but it was these tanks that we put people in to um heal their um injuries and things.
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.039
So that's a whole different story.
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:32.559
But on the first spaceship I worked on, you know, we were doing using all this equipment alighting the chakras and um doing a lot of color therapy, and we were taking out implants and putting in implants and doing all sorts of things there.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.119
And I got to design my operating room, whatever species was coming in there.
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.679
Like if it was human, it had this kind of design.
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.039
If it was a reptilian, I had to have this kind of design.
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:47.679
So that was the kind of technology that was on that spaceship.
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:56.400
Yeah, that was Athena is so Tina is short for Athena, like you like go back in the mythology.
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:57.920
So I don't know, that's kind of cool.
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:03.679
Yeah, the Athena is an Arcturian spaceship, but it housed any kind of all species.
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:08.719
It was just it was built by the um Arcturian, so it had a kind of Arcturian feel to it.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.639
Now the Astro Medical One was more gray, gray hybrids.
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:18.000
It was more linked to that, but it was just a hybrid spaceship.
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.320
Um about the grays.
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.199
So I've never experienced the grays.
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:30.639
Um, I've always been kind of I nothing really scares me, but have you what do you think?
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.320
I mean, are there well there's like every uh every species, there's good ones and bad ones.
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:37.039
Sure.
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.400
So um, you know, there's even bad palladians.
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.280
We just not haven't dealt with them.
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.360
You know, there's bad arturans, we really haven't dealt with them, but we have dealt with some bad grays.
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:55.440
I don't know how much of that's around anymore, but that's usually what we associate grays with.
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:57.280
But there's so many different types.
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.840
I mean, there's at least three or four species, different species that I know of.
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:12.719
Do you think the reason why we're not seeing the grays as much is because the earth has raised our vibrations so much that um some of the negative entities can't right.
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:14.239
The bad, yeah, the bad grays.
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:14.639
Yes.
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:20.480
The bad grays can't uh bad reptilians aren't here as much anymore.
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:24.960
But but the good grays are and the um good reptilians are.
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.840
It's interesting, we're talking about the grays.
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:59.440
Uh, yesterday I did a a little channeling from the Andromedons for on Lionsgate, because obviously we're just we've just entered that activation window, you know, between the 26th of July and the the 12th of August, where the you know Sirius A and the pyramids and uh the sun's in Leo, and that all everything goes into alignment, which means that we're able to access uh or remember more more parts of our multidimensionality.
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:12.800
And uh during that channeling, I uh a grey, a tall gray, uh sort of came in or stepped forward, and I I started doing some light language that was very different to what I normally do, just for about three minutes.
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:24.800
And I I was quite shocked because it was so different, the sounds of it, than it was you know, when I try and uh do light language for with the Andromedans.
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:33.039
And um I didn't realize that the grey uh the grey the tall greys used light language.
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.599
I thought that they were all telepathic.
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.480
Well, there's different with all of them.
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:46.239
Um they're probably telepathic, also, but they probably have language too.
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:48.000
But every species is different.
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.079
It's hard to lump them all in the same thing.
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.519
This is what all the grays do, this is all what the platines do, this is what all the Arcturians do.
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:06.400
They're all different levels, just like you can't say on earth a frog does the same thing as a human, so you can't say that about all their species either.
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.039
Okay, yeah, no, that makes perfect sense.
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:21.280
Yeah, I think that's what helped me to be able to sort of look at disclosure day in a very different way, because while the problem I had with it initially was well, I didn't feel like the the ETs would crash a spaceship.
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:25.280
I thought that they would be way too intelligent to actually crash a spaceship into the rocks.
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:26.960
I'd be like, well, why would they do that?
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.280
You know, their technology's so advanced.
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:53.119
But then, you know, it's like you were saying, it's it's like each extraterrestrial race has you know both evolved, and maybe other parts of the same group aren't as involved, and they are, you know, you also have to think about like we're curling through space, so this is probably it's probably not as simple as it sounds to come into a different atmosphere and land a spaceship.
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.079
You know, it's just I'm just getting this download.
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:58.639
Like, no, it is not easy to land.
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:12.559
That's why a lot of it's still in like fifth dimensions sort of thing, like breathing, living ships that aren't even like it's not like a solid, you know.
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:13.519
I don't know.
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.840
Yeah, no, that makes sense, absolutely.
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.400
So because you learned how to fly a spaceship, Gail, didn't you?
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.800
And you know, that took quite a lot of practice.
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:31.360
It was Mondo that was your teacher initially, but then ultimately Moon became um also a teacher for you as well.
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.000
Read my book, Satan.
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.679
You gave it to me.
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.920
I need to catch up.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.440
I definitely will, though.
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:48.719
Yes, Monto was a one of the first ones that came in, gold being from the star Solaris, and um he taught me how to fly a spaceship.
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:57.679
Now he didn't, we only talked telepathically between the two of us with him, but he taught me how to fly a spaceship, and it's not as easy as people think.
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.960
You don't just pop up there and learn how you're flying a spaceship.
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.119
I made a lot of mistakes.
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:05.119
So, how do you do it?
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.639
Do you use your mind to be able to control it and navigate it?
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.159
Is it all thought control?
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:16.079
It's all thought control, and just imagine trying to keep your thoughts on what you're saying.
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.400
Have you ever crashed one accidentally?
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:25.440
No, but my most devastating thing I did was I'm kind of a daredevil.
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.559
I'm kind of a daredevil.
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:40.400
So one day on the spaceship, I was going, I'd like to see what an ant looks like on earth.
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:43.039
Here we go.
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.480
You know, so there's those kind of things.
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:53.679
And then I remember one day sitting there telling them, oh, I was easy to train, and they all started laughing.
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.119
You know, of course I wasn't, made so many mistakes.
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:00.000
It's fascinating.
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:00.880
It's fascinating.
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.000
So yeah, I can imagine it's it's definitely not easy.
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.000
And um not for humans.
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.000
Yeah, how long did it take you to to fly them?
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:11.760
I have no idea.
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:13.920
I don't know the timeline on that.
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.119
I don't even know.
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:18.000
Yeah, no, I have I have no idea.
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:31.440
Is that because you were entering the missions at different phases and you were never really sure um, you know, what part of you know the I guess, you know, regular time that you were doing those.
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:32.239
Right.
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:40.960
And you know, one of the things about it was when I started learning how to fly the spaceship, that's when I was having so much physical reaction to it afterwards.
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:47.599
Like I had to go, you know, where they started me on a five-day bland diet.
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:53.840
Didn't know why I was going on a five-day bland diet, but I had to go on a five-day bland diet before I was approached by the ET.
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:01.360
And when I was approached by him, and then we finished going up for the first time, I was sick for several weeks afterwards.
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:04.320
Only thing I could eat was bread for like two weeks.
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:05.679
I was so sick.
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:10.480
And then it happened again the next time I went up, and then it got better and better and better.
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:16.320
But, you know, in the beginning, I was so sick with those interactions like that, going up in the spaceship.
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:28.960
It's gotta be hard for the the human vessel, the 3D vessel to um, you know, I just see it in my head like uh like you turn into salt almost like you're gone and then you're back.
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.639
Yeah, I think it was learning to go from 3D to 5D, just physical.
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:43.440
Uh and it might be because my um mine was so quick, you know, moved so quickly, learning how to do all these things or just remembering how to do it.
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:53.360
And I think a lot of people might do it a little more slowly, so they might not have as much of a physical reaction, but mine was very physical.
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:57.519
I wonder if human wanted to sorry, Hayden.
00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:58.480
That's okay.
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:07.440
If a human wanted to be approached, um, is there a way that you can call that in so you can be like, hey, I want to sign up and learn more?
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:09.199
Yeah, I think you can.
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:19.199
I think you can um talk to them and ask them, but they're gonna start coming in your dreams because of your reaction to them because there's so many people who say, Oh, yeah, I want to meet them.
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.079
Well, when you do, you gotta be prepared just like you did.
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:35.599
You started crying, you were scared, so you've got to be prepared that you you're gonna have this flight or fight reaction, probably when you first see them and or deer and headlights.
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:46.960
So you've got to be prepared for that, and not everybody's thinking of that, and they might have already had an interaction and it came off as fear, and they they just blanked them out where they don't remember it.
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:58.960
Do you feel as if your background in the emergency uh, you know, in a hospital environment prepared you to be able to, you know, sort of deal with that that emotional range?
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.079
Oh my gosh, yes.
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.000
I mean, they have directed me every step of my way in my life.
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:17.360
I mean, to become a nurse, to work in the operating room, to specialize in heart surgery and urosurger, to go back to school, to become a chiropractor, to specialize in the spine and the nervous system, to this.
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.079
And then, you know, I dealt with my dad with dementia.
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:26.960
So I yes, every step of the way, it led to what I do today or what I started, especially what I was doing.
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:40.719
Because when I worked in the um, when I walked into the first operating room when I was on this astral medical one, even though it was fancy or more modern or more advanced equipment, I knew how to use it.
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.280
I knew what each thing was new because I hadn't used it in 3D in the operating room.
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.039
I knew how to work with it.
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:52.159
So every step of the way, they have directed me.
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.840
And that that realization was I never did anything along.
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:57.920
Somebody was telling me what to do.
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:00.480
It's interesting, Tina, isn't it?
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:06.079
So that means that you sometimes like your background prepares you for what you're what you're going to be experiencing.
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:13.280
So um I feel like you, you know, you also would be somebody that has been prepared for what's next.
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:19.039
And you know, depending on your fear response, you know, is is as and when that'll happen for you.
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.880
Do you feel like you are ready for for something like that yourself?
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.239
I mean, I'm open to anything.
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.159
I think it I love adventure.
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.440
I'm I'm kind of like um like you are.
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.920
I'm a little bit of a daredevil myself.
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.880
So yeah, I was go.
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:45.679
Yeah, I think I think just the fact that and this happens a lot in my YouTube channel with people coming in with these brand new experiences.
00:55:45.840 --> 00:56:04.960
And even you, Hayden, you know, whenever you start talking to me, I I feel like I activate a lot of people that they start remembering some of the things that happened to them, or it makes it okay to talk about it when I'm talking about my things, and just um all of a sudden, oh, here's somebody is a safe place to talk.
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.159
Whatever she's saying, my stuff is not as crazy as hers.
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:09.360
So this is good.
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:11.679
That's it.
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:23.599
No one's no one's stuff is as crazy as yours, and and you know, talking about crazy, one of the the the most interesting parts of the book, I think, was your relationship with Moon, which is your white Alsatian.
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:36.639
Um it was a white German shepherd, German shepherd, and and Moon has the ability to shape shift into a human and also then a Sasquatch or a uh a Yeti, a white Yeti.
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:49.440
And uh I did I got to I think one of the final chapters of of one of the books, and uh you start talking about how that relationship obviously had grown and developed over the years.
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:55.199
Uh, that you used to go on missions just together, you know, after you'd been taught how to fly a spaceship through Monto.
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:09.920
Um, and then I didn't realize that Moon was deceased, and you were talking about the very first time that you'd met Monto as a puppy, and I was just like it was like watching Red Dog all over again.
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:26.400
I was like, oh god, I was I started welling up, and it was just so sad that this very ancient relationship that you had with your dog that you know, where you were both on these missions together, um, had come to an end, you know.
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:34.639
It was well, that was that's another thing that I've come to realize in the past couple of weeks is that growing up I had a wolf living under my bed.
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.039
Well, what's happened?
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.480
German shepherd.
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.480
That's my wolf that was living under bed.
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:49.440
And I've had four German shepherds in my life, so they've all it's been moon's been in my life all the whole time, and that has been protecting me.
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:54.880
And so, and then of course, she's passed away and she's on the other side.
00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:00.079
That same wolf, actually, that was under my bed, is now still here with me.
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:10.159
That's right, because nothing ever is lost, you know, it's just not it's not part of the the construct of creation, nothing is ever created or destroyed.
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:16.320
So she's still working with you um cerebrally, you know, in spirit form, and and is always there.
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.920
I I know that you talked about your relationship with your father and how you used to meet him on this bench under a tree.
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.519
And do you is that where you you meet Moon now as well?
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:31.519
Well, it just meet them all different, but that is that is the specific spot that I've meet, you know.
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.440
That is like it's like everybody has a bench by a water or river, and that's where they meet.
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.880
And so that's where that's kind of like my place to meet all the time.
00:58:43.519 --> 00:59:06.000
You know, and in fact, one time when I was um working with one of the I can't remember who it was, I was working with, I was meeting him at that same spot, but we met at a picnic table where he'd sit across from me, and it was somebody who was I was channeling the information from, and and it was one of those, you know, giving these great messages.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:10.159
So anyway, so that's just my spot.
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.440
That's your spot.
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:15.440
That's your spot to connect with everyone on the astral plane.
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.119
That's that's wonderful.
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:28.960
So um but you know, when I started, when we when I was meditating, Moon would started putting her head next to mine, you know, and her body would be in one direction and my body being the other.
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:44.079
And she started astral traveling with me when she was alive, and we would go up off earth into what I called the net, because we pretended like it was a hammock, and we'd lay out there looking at the stars and the moon and everything out there at that time.
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:48.159
We'd just go out on vacation and just hang out there.
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:52.719
It reminds me of the movie Hail Mary, the the rock, the rocky.
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.239
Have you seen Hail Mary?
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:55.199
Either one of you?
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:55.760
No.
00:59:56.159 --> 01:00:17.119
Um, so they're on a mission, they're in space, and um, there's one US astronaut, and then there's uh got hooked up to another spaceship from a different place, and they became friends, and it looks kind of like my dog, you know, it's like it's a rock, but it has like arms and legs, but it looks it, it kind of I don't know.
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.000
You guys need to see Hail Mary, it's so good.
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.800
You're gonna love it, you'll both love it.
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:27.920
I I find that uh sometimes the movies do reflect reality, you know.
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.559
There is that sort of juxtaposition between truth and and fantasy, isn't there?
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That they that they they sort of like it's almost like the the truth is hidden in plain sight.
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And uh there are movies that you know, like the one you've just described, I think that prepare us for what's about to come.
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:55.599
I I've been learning quite a lot recently about the construct of reality and uh you know about the different realms and that this construct is coming to an end.
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.719
Do you feel that that this is true?
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And and if so, do you feel like this is why we're able to have these types of conversations without feeling embarrassed or like we're gonna be ridiculed?
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Do you feel like this is part of the construct breaking down?
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I've been teaching new earth classes for several years now, and um, it's very much we are in this phase of in and out.
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Like uh you can see it, you know, it just depends on where you focus your intentions and what you want to see.
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If I don't want to see anything negative, I don't turn on the TV for a day, and it's amazing.
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I'm in New Earth, right?
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And then you, if you flip on the TV, you're gonna get pulled back into, you know, the wars and the you know, conflicts.
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And so I I very much think that um it's all happening and it's all about raising the earth's vibration.
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And I I think that's my main, I'm besides being a mother, I think that's one of my main missions is to help elevate the vibration of the earth for the shift that we're in right now.
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Yeah, I think that's all of our missions to around the vibration of earth.
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But the breakdown of the construct, I don't I don't know that there's gonna be um any defining moment when all of a sudden it's gone.
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:29.440
I think it's just gonna go incrementally, and I think it anything can change during the time of time.
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I and I think it used to be for so many years.
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So it was this is how it's gonna be.
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Boom, we're gonna be in 3D, boom, we're gonna be in 5D.
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It's not gonna work like this.
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Here we're gonna meet the extraterrestrials tomorrow we're not, or today we don't meet them, tomorrow we're not.
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I don't think anything moves like that.
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.719
In fact, I see things taking like hundreds of years to change.
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So I quit trying to predict things like that on what's gonna happen because it is so slow moving.
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We might be sitting here talking about it, and yes, I agree with you, Aiden, that we have moved to a point where we can talk about it, but just think of all the people that are back here who can't talk about it.
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Right.
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And I'm on some level, if you think if you think about it, um, I think there's going to be a separation and there's going to be an old earth and a new earth.
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:37.119
I really I and I'm a Dolores Cannon fan uh from back in the day, and you know, the all the books and I strongly feel like one is energetic and the other one is going to be like a crumbling, fiery, you know.
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I but that's just me.
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:45.760
I I might be wrong, but you you can see it kind of happening, but it's like it's an energetic thing.
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.679
It's not so much like, you know, does that make sense?
01:03:50.000 --> 01:04:03.840
Yeah, I've I've seen twice now, and I've written that in my last chapter of a book where I've seen that I am in a well for a time I thought I was in an airplane with a bunch of light workers.
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I knew half, not half of them, I knew a lot of them.
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:10.320
I seen a lot, all of them were in stupors, and I was the only one awake.
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And we were flown to a place where we're taken into this compound, and we were set down, and anyway, and our pets were in one room, kids were over here, whatever they were um, they were there, and so I thought I was a prisoner, and I had to pretend like I was asleep in a super like they were, and then all of a sudden I was awake in my bed.
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It happened again like three years later, and then the same scenario, then I realized at that time I'm in a spaceship.
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:55.519
I'm in a spaceship full of light workers, and it's this this plane is all women that that that spaceship over there is all men, and so I'm not sure how all everything was being separated, but we were taken to another planet, and what happened?
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:08.880
I saw Earth imploding, totally imploding, and and then another Earth right beside it was created in three days, and we were all taken back and put in place like nothing had ever happened.
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So I don't know if that's how it's gonna happen, but I've I've I've had that twice now.
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I've also noticed that the the um the more I'm living this day-to-day, um, the more things don't look so solid anymore.
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Like I run into things because everything's kind of vibrating.
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:39.599
And like, wait a minute, let's make sure the wall is, you know, let's not run into things.
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:53.119
So like I haven't driven my car in probably in months, just not because I'm scared of that, but just it's just I don't it's like less, less need to leave my house.
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:54.079
You know what I mean?
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:59.760
Well, see, I'm the total opposite because when I get in my car and drive, that's almost going into meditation.
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And I'm just open, open to all the information coming in at that time.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting.
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Kevin Briggs talks about that shimmery effect in his book.
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He's another contactee.
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He was since a child contacted by the Palladians, a couple of Palladians that had been monitoring him.
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And when he would feel their presence, he would almost describe the atmosphere around him as becoming a lot less solid.
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:40.000
And he would see it almost like by looking through a block of ice, he would describe it as everything would go a bit shimmery, and the the air temperature around him would go cooler.
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And he could just sense that he was being watched or um you know observed in some way until the day that he he actually saw these two beings for the first time when he was in the bath, actually.
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.719
And um funny story.
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:57.679
It's a little up close and personal.
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Well, he was only he was I think he was nine years old, wasn't he?
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:01.760
Oh, okay.
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:15.840
Yeah, he was he was only a kid when that happened, and uh it was just interesting the way you were describing the you know the the nature of 3D reality as kind of becoming a little bit less solid than it used to feel.
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:25.679
And I think that you know that's that's probably another indication that you know that you are crossing in between dimensions uh frequencies without realizing it.
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:45.760
The other thing that came up for me as well for you, Tina, when you were talking earlier on about this special program that you maybe um don't you that you're unaware of that you were um involved in where the military are now observing or or kind of remote viewing you, um could it have been connected with the psychic children's uh special programs?
01:07:45.840 --> 01:08:04.079
Because I know that people like Kyra, you know, were you know were also involved in these types of programs where they took the psychic children and and knowing you being a life path 11 and uh Piscean, you're a seven that's right seven, but you've got a is it the you're a double seven, aren't you?
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.119
The seven seven.
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I'm a Pisces, also.
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My birthday is eleven.
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There you go.
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So you've got the two Pisceans, which are the most evolved of you know the astrological uh the zodiac, but then you've also got the seven, which is the seeker of truth, and the eleven, which is the master frequency, you know, often very, very psychic, um, or clairvoyant.
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:40.399
Um, so they're that you know they they've chosen almost like highly evolved uh beings to begin with, to to to to work with.
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Do you does that resonate with you?
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Do you feel like you were maybe part of that type of psychic program where there were you know that you were um I don't know, like tested?
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:57.279
Well, we we were I'm not necessarily thinking that we were part of military, but we were being trained.
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We were off planet being trained because we're hybrids.
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Okay.
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So I remember as a a child, um, I whenever I was very young, maybe like in first or second grade, um I had a meeting or I was in a meeting and my mom was there, and they wanted to raise me into a different grade.
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Um, and so I went to a different grade.
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I went to a different classroom.
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I don't know, I can't recall everything, but I just remember I was there for a while and I just said, I don't have any friends here.
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I want to go back to my other classroom.
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But that's the only thing that just came into my head that actually that I remember that I was taken out of my classroom and put into a different classroom for a while.
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But I can't even tell you why or anything.
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:53.760
But that actually happened.
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:54.399
Okay.
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:55.359
Yeah.
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:57.279
That would make sense, wouldn't it?
01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:58.079
That would make sense.
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.439
It maybe, maybe those types of things are worth exploring more.
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.000
You know, what what for what purpose?
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:15.600
You know, it was there was there some training that was taking place or were they monitoring you at the you know from that that age, maybe I I don't know how the psychic children are are chosen.
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:20.640
I I've never really um well I think it comes from the military families.
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:22.720
Oh, is that yeah, I do.
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:30.000
I think it's the military families that they come from, and I think it's um they approach the family that's already in the military.
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:37.680
I think those are the children that they go for because that's easier to have access to them.
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:40.800
Okay, right.
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:41.760
Yeah, that makes sense.
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.720
I find that a lot of people are wearing masks too.
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:59.760
It's like I'll meet somebody and they'll say, This is what I do, this is my title, or they'll just approach me and this is what I do, and I kind of find out later that's not really who they are, or like why are you so interested?
01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:00.960
You know, you know what I mean?
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:11.359
It's like um I think a lot of people are trained to be somebody else to get you to come to them or something.
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Am I making sense?
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:18.079
Like, yeah, but I mean, because people don't know what I do outside the neighborhood and everything here.
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:22.560
I mean, them they're um retired chiropractor, retired nurse.
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:28.960
So how easy is that to approach somebody who's in the medical field versus this is what I'm doing, you know.
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:29.760
Right.
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:32.319
Yeah, yeah, much more approachable.
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:47.279
I guess that's so definitely trickery, but like um, you know, a lot of people can't announce, hey, this is what I do, and I'm interesting you for this reason, because you go, Well, I I don't know, you know.
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:49.680
Yeah.
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:50.880
Got it.
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.159
So they they wear a mask in order to get close.
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It feels I not even I I I'm saying it more like a they're not introducing themselves as as this is who I am.
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:09.279
Just kind of like if someone's in the CIA, they're not gonna come up and be like, hey, yeah, that's what I do.
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:09.840
Right.
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.399
You know, because they're not allowed to tell you.
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.279
Well, I don't think either I or Dr.
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.720
Gail are members of the CIA yet.
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:22.720
But who knows?
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:27.279
Well, I mean, does do your neighbors and everything know what you do?
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:28.399
Oh yeah.
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.880
Oh yeah, I'm I'm the neighborhood kind of weirdo.
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.600
So nobody knows what I do.
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:38.960
So I would be one of those people that's wearing the mask.
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:40.000
Yeah.
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:45.840
I I learned a about I don't know, eight or nine years ago.
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:47.439
I couldn't.
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:53.439
It's just um, you know, people were showing interest in my life in a negative way.
01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:05.279
And um, so I decided I'm going to be so public that if they want to research me, here's lots of lives that I'm doing, here's all my data.
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:10.800
You you can go ahead and decipher it and research that all you want because I have nothing to hide.
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:12.079
So here I am.
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:14.960
Fascinating.
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:19.600
Well, it's been a a highly fascinating conversation today, ladies.
01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:28.479
Uh, do you uh do you feel that that's uh helped bring clarity into you know some of the thoughts and feelings that you've been getting, Tina?
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:30.079
It does.
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:36.319
Um I yeah, I find it fascinating to learn that I'm a hybrid because I didn't know that.
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.279
I mean, yeah.
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:48.640
There's so much I don't know, and I think the day I I'm like, oh, I know everything, that's the day when you know, I don't like, yeah.
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:53.760
So I'm always going to be curious and wanting to know more.
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.520
And, you know, as humans, we're our favorite subject.
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:02.399
So it's very interesting to find out these things, and I appreciate the insight.
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:07.119
So, what is it that you do that you're so public about?
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:13.199
Um, so I uh own a crystal business and I'm a Reiki master.
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:18.079
Um I'm an astrologer, I'm a numerologist.
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:24.239
Um I do all kinds of things, but yeah, and I I'm a teacher.
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:25.680
What is your big thing?
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:26.319
What do you use?
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:31.520
My crystal, my crystal business and and Reiki are my two.
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:32.800
Yeah.
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.279
Yeah, so that's uh you know, you do most beautiful crystal jewelry as well, don't you?
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:40.079
Thank you.
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:41.520
I'm wearing one right now.
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:42.800
It's one of my pieces.
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:45.199
Yeah, it's beautiful.
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:51.840
So so what I'll do is I'll pop down in the uh description of the video your the links to your websites, etc.
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.880
etc., so people will know where to find you.
01:14:55.119 --> 01:15:00.640
And um obviously you as well, Gail, um, with you know the amazing work that you're doing.
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:08.960
And I highly encourage anybody who's watching this podcast today to um to read read your books, you know.
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:10.800
I can't wait to read the third one now.
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:19.039
It's it took me a while to read uh one and two, but I just needed some time, you know, to sort of chill out and and absorb the information.
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:24.640
And it was just it transported me, uh, as you can imagine, into a completely different realm.
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.039
And I loved it um so so much.
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.039
Both of the books were really well written.
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.399
As a a client, uh a planetary client liaison.
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:39.840
I think that you are always a little bit scared about being being sacked from that role, and eventually, you know, that role did end.
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.159
Uh, have you been given your next mission yet?
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:47.199
Well, that that interplanetary liaison, that is actually what Danny does now.
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:50.720
He yes, he's much better at it than I am.
01:15:50.960 --> 01:16:03.359
So he is that, and um, so he's like a diplomat, but his title, I think I'm not sure if it's still interplanetary liaison or what his title is now, but that's the direction he goes in.
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:08.560
Whereas mine's the medical espionage, that kind of thing.
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:09.760
Wonderful.
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:14.800
And and and is that you know what you're doing now when you go off planet?
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:28.079
What right now my mission is right is um going in and getting the hybrid babies that have been distributed because the reptilians have discovered the list of them and where they're located.
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:36.239
So we're having to go get these babies and take them up to a spaceship to protect them until we can get rid of those reptilians.
01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.279
Oh wow, how did they find out?
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:40.239
I don't know.
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:41.359
I don't know that part.
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:43.520
There's so many details that I don't know.
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:48.800
I just go and do what they tell me to do, and my job is to get the babies.
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:49.600
Wow.
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:51.359
Well, you know, good luck with all of that.
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:58.800
I you know, I wish uh I wish that you you get all of them safely back to where they need to be without any infiltration there.
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.359
It's um it's just mind-blowing stuff, isn't it?
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:05.199
Well, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you both go.
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:15.279
Is there anything that either of you would like to either say to each other or any questions that you've got that you've been sitting on that you've not you know sort of asked yet?
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:18.079
I think I asked mine.
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:22.960
One thing, um, so I was also told that I have hybrid children.
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:23.439
Oh, yeah.
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:26.800
Um, I've been told that within the past six months.
01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:27.359
Yeah.
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:31.359
So that's something that is like yeah.
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.520
I have six that I know of.
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:34.640
Wow.
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:41.600
So maybe you and I can talk uh at some point because I I feel like we have got a lot to talk about.
01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:46.000
Yes, in fact, my next book is gonna be about hybrids.
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:52.000
Wow, that's it's gonna be really quite the same as the last three.
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:54.800
This last three was a series of all about aliens.
01:17:55.039 --> 01:18:01.039
I guess this will be under that title too, but this is gonna be more matter of fact, it's just about hybrids.
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:02.239
Wow.
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:08.720
I think you two have got a lot of catching up to do and a lot of talking and delving deeply down the rabbit hole.
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:14.800
I'm so delighted that you know I was able to bring you both together today during uh today's chat.
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:20.319
And um, yeah, I can't wait to uh to see where all this goes for both of you.
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:21.920
Thank you, Hayden.
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Yes, thank you for having us.
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You're welcome.
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:26.079
All right, guys.
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Well, I'm gonna love you and leave you.
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Thanks again for watching Cosmetic Conversations.
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Today we explored experiences that challenge our understanding of reality and invite us to ask some of the biggest questions uh that we actually can contemplate.
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What is consciousness?
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What exists uh beyond what we can see?
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And how do we make sense of experiences that seem to expand the boundaries of human perception?
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A huge thank you once again to Tina Briggs for courageously sharing her personal experiences and Dr.
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Gail McLeod for sharing her perspective, knowledge, and insights from her own extraordinary journey.
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Whether you view these encounters as experiences of consciousness, contact, multidimensional awareness, or something we're still learning to understand.
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Until next time, quick keep questioning, keep exploring, and keep looking beyond the veil.
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Bye for now.
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It happened again like three years later.
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And then the same scenario, then I realized at that time I'm in a spaceship.
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I'm in a spaceship with light workers.
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This plane is all women.
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That spaceship over there is all men.
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And so I'm not sure how all everything was being separated, but we were taken to another planet.
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And what happened?
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I saw Earth imploding, totally imploding.
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And then another Earth right beside it was created in three days.
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And we were all taken back and put it in place like nothing had ever happened.
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So, welcome to another episode of Cosmic Conversations.
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Tonight we explore one of the most mysterious and profound areas of human experience.
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What really happens when our reality appears to overlap with something beyond our normal perception?
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My guests today are two incredible women who bring very different but deeply connected perspectives rather to this conversation.
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Joining me is Tina Briggs, who has been experiencing a series of extraordinary encounters in her bedroom at night, including encounters with beings she identifies as extraterrestrial, as well as what she described as holographic military figures appearing within her experience.
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Alongside Tina is Dr.
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Gail McLeod, an author and researcher who spent years exploring consciousness, extraterrestrial contact with beings she identifies uh extraterrestrial contacts with her own extraordinary experiences, including encounters she describes as involving spacecraft, advanced technology, and interactions with non-human intelligences.
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In this conversation, we'll explore Tina's experiences and what she's been witnessing, the emotional and spiritual impacts of these encounters, how we interpret experiences that challenge our understanding of reality, Gail's own journey and her insights she's gained through her experiences, and whether there are patterns connecting human consciousness with contact experience.
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Are these encounters happening in physical reality, consciousness or somewhere in between?
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What can we learn when we approach these experiences with curiosity and an open mind?
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So join us as we step beyond the extraordinary and explore the mysteries of contact consciousness and the unknown.
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So welcome to Cosmic Conversations.
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Let's say some kind of beginning there.
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Hi.
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Let's hope that we do cover off all of that today.
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We probably will only just scratch the surface with it.
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But it's just lovely to get you both together.
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Um, I feel very excited about this conversation today because uh I'll I'll give the the backstory to it all.
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Because I I was away in the southwest of France enjoying myself, um, sitting by the pool reading Dr.
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Gale's books, uh, How I Met an Alien and How I Learned to Fly a Spaceship.
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And Tina contacted me.
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And um it was interesting because I was at one of the chapters where I think that you'd been rescuing an alien from a military facility, Dr.
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Gale.
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And Tina was like, Oh my god, I've just seen um the you know Steven Spielberg's film uh um Disclosure Day, and I had a really emotional uh encounter with it, and then relayed back some of these experiences that she's had in her bedroom of seeing these military figures.
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And I'm like, I've got to get these two together because you know, Tina obviously is ha has been having these experiences for such a long time, and Gail, you know, also has, but you you you've almost you know got your accolades and your and your medals and your medallions and your and your promotions through all the different you know spaceships that you've worked on along the way.
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So I just felt that this was going to be one of those conversations that's gonna be deeply enlightening for not only you two, but also for anybody who's watching it as well.
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So if we can start with you, Tina, can you take us back to the very first time that this started happening?
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What was the experience that made you realize that this was something completely different from an ordinary dream or your imagination?
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So it started probably around 2019.
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I started doing meditations with my eyes closed, and um, I was having these experiences of beings around me.
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And um then fast forward to 2021, I decided to open my eyes in my bedroom one night, and they were still there, and it was holographic um beings, and they there are three different groups, but the two that stand out to me the most, um, especially with the movie that I just saw, are the military.
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They they are almost in holographic form.
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I feel like I'm laying on the ground and that they're all around me, and they can't believe that I can see them.
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They'll wave others over and they'll get their phones out and take pictures.
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Um, and I always kind of just do like a peace sign, heart wave.
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I I don't want any problems.
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I'm just like, I don't know how I'm seeing you either, but here I am and there you are.
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Um, so that's the one that really that's when I lost it.
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I was watching it with my husband and I just lost it, like like it's not coming out, like the whole just it was very, very emotional because I'm like, oh my gosh.
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And usually when that happens, I'm holding one of my Lemurian crystals.
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And so was that the military, our military or yes, yeah, definitely US military.
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Um, they look more like desert storm gear, like they're you know, bigger, clunkier, old school.
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Um but I don't I I don't know enough about it to know what I'm looking at.
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I just know I've been experiencing it for many years and don't really know what to think of it.
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Okay, so I'll throw that over to you, gal.
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Then what like what do you feel like this is?
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Is it is this a similar thing to what you experienced initially as well?
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No, not at all.
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That's totally different.
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My um my first experience was um, you know, contact with my dad, and then he'd introduced me to an angel, and then started with extraterrestrials.
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And so my only contact with the government was trying to figure out how to rescue these ETs that have been captured in these military facilities and were sick and dying.
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So that was my only connection to the military.
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Now, all the different species has their own military, and I would say I was most connected to the gray hybrid military, so um, but not our military.
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How interesting.
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So completely different militaries there.
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So in in which case then, why do you feel, Tina, that the you know, that the US military uh have been sort of almost spying on you?
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They're remote viewing her, yes.
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That's what they're doing.
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That is that what they're doing.
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Yeah.
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Now I have had an incident where which I'm gonna have a regression therapy about because it's has stuck with me for several years now.
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That somebody I woke up and somebody was lying in bed with me who was testing me, and it was a remote viewer, and I know what he looked like, and he was shocked that I woke up, but he was also shocked at all the information I had.
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And so I'm I'm I'm guessing Tina has a lot of information she doesn't even know she possesses that they're interested in.
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How do you feel about that?
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I was in special programs by um a psychic and a healer, but I don't know what those special programs are, at least not my you know, not my waking consciousness.
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I don't know.
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Special programs are working with the extraterrestrials, teaching you, and I did not know this myself until um fairly recently that I thought I did not have contact until 2020 with extraterrestrials, and then I found out, which I've written in my my last book here, talking about when it did start, or I maybe it was my second book because talked about when it started, and I was going up as an infant.
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They were teaching me how to walk through walls, they were teaching me how to go invisible, they were teaching me all these different things, but the guy that was in bed with me was interested in the different star systems that I knew, that I don't even really know star systems.
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I can't look up in the sky, but I was drawing star systems for him that are not even on our radar, and I had that I had that knowledge stored in me, and that's what he was interested in in remote viewing, and that's what he the information he was trying to get out of me.
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And so, and and just recently um I remember another time that, and this correlates this when I was learning how to walk through walls, because uh years ago I said I was about nine years old when they were teaching me how to do that, and then all of a sudden, just the past couple of weeks, I remember an incident when I was in the fourth grade, which was about nine out nine, where I was in the classroom and they took me, they took me out of my classroom, everything went black, dark with me, and nothing changed when I came back out of it, and I didn't much of it except for I actually I thought I had some kind of medical issue going on, but I didn't talk to anybody about it.
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But now I'm seeing where I was taken up at a um gray um ship because the beings that were there were my height.
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I was in fourth grade and said they were my height, and uh they were all we were walking down like a cylinder type hallway, and they were bouncing off all over the place, excited to see me.
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And I was excited to see them too.
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And I was just walking down there, and there was just they were they were on the ceilings, they were on the walls, they were everywhere around me as I walked down the hallways, they were celebrating, and that's just very recent memory within the last couple of weeks.
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How interesting.
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So, so you were just sitting there at school one minute doing your maths, and then the next thing you're there on the spaceship.
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And um for years, all of for me was I blacked out, but I didn't faint or anything.
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I just blacked out everything went dark for me, and then when everything came back light, I was still in the classroom and nothing had changed.
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And so now, just within the last couple of weeks, I have been shown what actually happened during that time.
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Why that I'm being shown that now, I have no idea, but that's what happened is they took me when I was in the fourth grade, and that was about the time I was learning how to walk through walls.
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So it core the time correlates that.
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Yes, I knew I was about nine years old when I was learning how to do that fourth grade.
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I was about nine years old when they took me out of the classroom, and obviously we're probably that's probably when they taught me how to do that.
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But I was so used to them, I was excited to see them.
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I was walking down the hallway with them bouncing off all the walls, it's celebrating that I was there, and I was just happy to be there, happy go lucky, walking in the hallway.
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So, do you feel then that these this secret um missions or these this this secret program that Tina was involved with, that a lot of it is uh will have happened in the same way that that happened to you, where you know she may have blacked out or she may have everything might have gone black.
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She may have been taken when she least expected it.
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And and this is why maybe she's being triggered by disclosure day.
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Yeah, I'm gonna guess that's true because um of these military people are interested in the knowledge that she has that she doesn't know she has.
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I don't know all the knowledge that I possess either.
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Uh, so I think that's what it is.
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They're trying to um get that knowledge, figure out what that knowledge is.
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Now, since that man was in bed with me, I have put up so much protection around me and telling my um, you know, uh people watching over me, the ETs and everything, not to let him back in.
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Yeah, I think he's been back one other time.
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And since they let him in, I'm thinking he might not be bad, that there must be some kind of information that I'm needing to share.
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But it's something to do with the star systems that I have knowledge of that I have no clue of.
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And I'm not even, I don't even know where Orion is when you look at the sky.
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But I was sitting there just drawing all these different star systems from her that we've never heard of.
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So, how do you feel about that, Tana?
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So I don't feel like they want any harm done to me.
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I almost feel protected by them.
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And even if I go through an airport or something like that, it's like it's I I can't explain it.
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It's like I I do have like global entry, so that's the highest level you can get as a you know, a citizen.
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But I mean, it's like they just kind of look at they're like, okay, thanks.
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They never ask questions.
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I'm in and out of the country all the time.
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And it's just I don't know, you know, I know who I am here, but you know what I mean?
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It just it feels like you've always got somebody with you watching out after you.
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Yes.
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And it's not just um the military groups, there's a couple other um almost like hybrid groups that are with me as well.
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And they're they're with me almost every single night now.
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I'll get up to get a drink of water and there'll be one standing in the corner.
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I'm just like, and they don't look at me or anything unless I walk up and then they'll look at me.
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And I don't know.
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I'm just used to it now.
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It's just kind of my day-to-day.
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But it used to really freak me out.
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I would I would message Hayden in the middle of the night, I'm in my bathroom crying, I don't know what to do.
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Years ago.
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My reaction was never that.
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It's always been more of a collaboration that I had with them.
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So I never had the only time, only reaction I had was when the first gold being showed up in my living room.
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When I take that back, when my first being, uh, there's two other times.
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One, there was this aqua-colored being that she was standing in the doorway, and I was talking to two friends of mine in a metaphysical store.
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We were sitting under talking, and she showed up at the doorway.
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I was the only one that could see her, but that really freaked me out.
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And it actually took my emotions from crying to laughing within seconds.
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That's how she affected me.
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Can I ask you a question about that?
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So when you see them, do they look holographic or solid to you?
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Do they look, I mean, do they look like you and I look right now, or do they look more like you see through, but you can still see them?
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If I'm here, excuse me, in this world, I would say, oh gosh, it's hard to say.
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Maybe holographic, but more solid than holographic, but not so solid.
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That's a hard question to answer.
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But like when I'm moving up into their world, they definitely look solid to me.
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When I've gone up, uh, whenever I've been in meditation, um, and I've been up in shifts, um, I feel like the ship is a being.
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Like I've never seen other beings.
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And then, um, but something else is just coming to my mind right now.
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And I think I've shared this with you before, Hayden.
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Um, during meditation, um, we've like hooked up to something else, and I'm like opening a door and just like all the troops are on the go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
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And they're like jumping from one to another, like on like a mission or something.
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I don't know.
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But I've had this um in meditation multiple times where I'm like helping troops, and we're like up in space though, we're not right, definitely not here, but it's our troops.
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So, yes, and when I started, you might be the communicator, because when I started, I was the communicator that could telepathically communicate and also talk in English to the people who needed to speak English, like our troops or um somebody else who was uh human.
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And so that was the job they gave me in the beginning was when I was in a spaceship, I was the one that had to communicate with the people on the ground and in the spaceship, and I had to communicate with all of them because I had the ability to that's what I was trained with originally, was how to be able to communicate with all these different languages and do telepathic communication.
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But the fact that I had a strong English and I looked human, that was the strength that I had that they didn't have, and that's why I had that job on the spaceship.
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So it might be that you had something similar because that it was rushing people in, rushing people out, and I was the communicator between all that.
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Yeah, because Dr.
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Gail is an Arcturian hybrid, so you're more of a human Arcturian hybrid, aren't you?
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Um because you look human.
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Whereas Tina, you know, you've always had this deep connection with the Pleiades, haven't you?
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So potentially you may have been part of the the uh Pleiadian hybrid program or something like that, you know, where there's you always mentioned to me that there's an aspect of you that is almost like your sister that's observing you from the Piades.
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Her other aspect of herself, yeah.
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She is a Palladian hybrid or a yeah, a human.
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It's considered a human hybrid if you look human, and whatever if you look palladium, you'd be a called a Palladian hybrid.
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So because we both look human, we're considered human hybrids, and the other part is like your Palladian and me mocturian.
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So that's um so your gifts is because you look human, they're amusing you or not amusing you, you're collaborating and helping them and working with them.
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So because you can get in and out of places because you look human.
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Also, you can speak English very easily and connect with, say, the military here and them and whoever else might be working with you.
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So since you're on Earth, that's a lot of what you're probably doing, is just working with them.
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And I'm not blowing any covers or anything like that.
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I always feel like, well, if I'm in such a special mission, like I probably shouldn't be talking about that.
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Well, I started off that way myself too.
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Yeah, I didn't, I was writing everything down.
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That's they told me to write everything down, and then all of a sudden they were wanting me to go public, and I'm going public.
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And so then they said they want me to write a blog.
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And I said, I'm a terrible writer, I cannot write a blog.
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And I tried my first blog and I read it, and I went, that's the most boring write the written thing I've written.
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And I and the mission was not boring.
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So then that I um talked to them and said, Can I start a YouTube channel?
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Because they'll talk about it a lot easier than I could write about it.
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And so then I started doing little short videos, and I was really worried for a long time.
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I'm not worried at all anymore.
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I I know my protection and I know things, nothing has happened to me, and I've been on YouTube now for over five years.
00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:52.880
And so, um, you know, they kept me safe.
00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:53.680
Mm-hmm.
00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:54.559
Yeah.
00:21:54.880 --> 00:22:06.160
I think it's time, Tina, you know, for you to uh to come out of the Celestial closet and and start sharing you know the amazing experiences that you've been having as well.
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.799
And you might find that as you the more you share, the more memories will start coming up for you as well.
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:26.720
And I think what's really interesting about you is the fact that you use crystals as a tool to be able to access communication with not only the ETs but also other other uh humans as well, isn't that right?
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.079
You do as well, yeah?
00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:29.920
So you both use them crystal technology.
00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.200
At least 20 crystals sitting right here right now with me.
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:34.720
Yeah, nice.
00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:41.759
Yeah, there's a connection to everything between crystals and humans and ETs.
00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:45.359
Yes, I do a lot of my healing work with crystals.
00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.079
Yeah, so I'm really excited about them.
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:56.400
So the crystal uh that you use that seems to have a major impact that is almost like a multidimensional crystal is the one with the barcodes, isn't it, Tina?
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:58.880
Yes, you've always got that one quite close to you.
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:11.200
It and and that almost reminded you a little bit of the um mechanism or that technology that was in disclosure day, because you know that film really had an emotional reaction to you.
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.200
You started crying, didn't you, after you'd watched it?
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.599
Well, do you want to explain what happened?
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:22.799
Well, whenever she was um cloaking, um, before she even I've never seen the movie movie before.
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:28.480
And so they were grabbing the the crystal or whatever that was, and I said, Oh, she's about to cloak.
00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:29.440
That's so smart.
00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:31.200
And then boom, they can't see.
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:32.319
And I was like, Oh my gosh.
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:45.519
And that's when I started like getting the goosebumps, and then when you could actually see like the ETs, and especially when one of them was on the ground and like all the this different disclosures that were released.
00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:50.160
Um, I was just watching them and I just I felt myself in some of them.
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:58.160
Um, but I definitely felt compassion for you know what they've been through and what they're going through.
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:02.799
And I hope that it is brought to this the light, and I think it will be.
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.240
I think this movie is going to help that come forward even more.
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:16.079
But I've been shocked about how many people were shocked by that part of it because for me, that's what I was doing was rescuing those sick and dying ETs.
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.920
And I'm going, why is this so devastating to people?
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:33.119
You know, this this was my work for years was doing that because in the medical, but yeah, I find it interesting that you're saying is the code that made you went invisible because I never used the code to go invisible.
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.039
I used my mental capacity to go invisible.
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.920
So I didn't know that that was a code that like that that to grab that like that.
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.359
I didn't know that existed.
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.599
So that's interesting to hear.
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:47.680
You used magnets, didn't you?
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.759
In the books that I was reading, uh, you often took these magnets with you, Dr.
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:52.160
Gow.
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:53.440
What were they for?
00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:07.359
The magnets was to well, I'm not not the scientist on that, but it was to break up some kind of barrier between your energy to allow you to um to go up in the spaceship.
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:12.960
You know, how you see like on Star Trek and everything, how they go and they go down the ground and go up.
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:29.200
Well, it's the magnets that had to cut through some of the energy, or maybe it was a facility that I had to wave the magnet around the person or being so it could be go up into the spaceship, be beamed up in the spaceship.
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:30.400
That's cool.
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:31.839
That is cool, isn't it?
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:36.640
So it's all these amazings like almost superpowers that you you start remembering.
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.440
The uh the other thing is that you um a part of the film that triggered you, uh Dr.
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:49.279
Gail, was when you were uh seeing the two kids that were reunited and then they met back up later on down the track.
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.920
And that's very reminiscent of a relationship that you've got today with somebody.
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:58.480
Right, it is I wrote I've written that in this book that's coming out.
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:14.000
I'm going, holy crap, this is validating my chapter in my book when I saw that because yes, the very first time I was going up to the spaceship, I was an infant, and they brought me in what it was called a room, and they put us in a developer.
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:25.920
Well, I had we had there's probably about 20 developers in that room, and they look like incubators, and there's um I would and it's ETs that are holding these babies.
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:33.599
I and this boy were held by this one woman, one in each arm, and we were only human human babies in there.
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:35.039
Everything else is different.
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:43.680
And so this developer, we were put in and we were strapped up and around her head and down our back, and it developed us.
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:48.160
We were getting um techniques and learning all different things at this time.
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:56.799
So he was in there first, and then I would go in, and then they would take us and put us into um incubator after that.
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:03.759
It reminded me of a bouncy house, and we were little infants, and we couldn't even turn over anything because the the guy's name is Danny.
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.079
Danny says, Doesn't just try to kick you in the head all the time.
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.799
And I said, We were too little, we couldn't even move.
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:25.759
And anyway, so I had a regression therapy with Barbara Lamb and um wanted to know because I was having these memories coming back about my childhood going up, and and for me, I'm thinking, oh, I didn't start going working with them until in 2020.
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:33.039
Well, I found out with a you know the regression therapy that I was going up as an infant, and then all that memory started coming back.
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:40.880
But the boy that was going up with me met him years later, and um he started his own YouTube channel.
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:48.240
He's a tarot reader, he lives in California, he's on the West Coast, I'm on the East Coast, and I had started my YouTube channel.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:28:01.279
We met and he's had his extraterrestrial experiences, and so it I realized last year who that boy was, and it was him because we both have been learning the same things along the way.
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:14.720
Now we went to different things, like he is uh in a more diplomatic position, and I went medical and communication, and um, so but we have met since then, we've gotten back together.
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:20.880
So we went this ordinary life all our life until both of us started waking up.
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:25.279
Um, and then all of a sudden both of us started our YouTube channels, and then we met.
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.119
And so yeah, so it's it's pretty amazing.
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:59.680
So when I saw the disclosure that you're talking about showing those two kids, and I was going, oh my gosh, that's the same exact same thing, um, and not as movie movie work or whatever, you know, not but you know, I didn't start talking in well, it could be, you know, in tongue or whatever she was doing, but I was gonna say it could be because of everybody's going, I think this girl's crazy on this YouTube talking about all this stuff.
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:05.440
But anyway, so we did meet, and so that was very um, you know, hit home for me.
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:14.000
It is very validating that I had already written about it in my book, and here it is, that validated that this is true, this is what was happening.
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.319
It's it's fascinating, isn't it?
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:24.640
So Tina, did you want to tell us more a little bit more about the types of aliens or ETs that you've been encountering and what they've shown you?
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:30.079
Um, because I know that they at some point they've been teaching you how to manipulate energy, haven't they?
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.640
Yeah, that's been a big one because I can't hear them.
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.319
I can just um read thoughts at this point because I've been used to them.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.400
But there's one group um of hybrids that come through.
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.720
Um, I'm guessing they're either Pleiadian or Octurians.
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:50.400
I'm not quite sure.
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:56.880
Uh, but they're just very tall, uh, very well manicured, always look really nice.
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.440
They're always wearing glasses or sunglasses.
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:07.440
And they'll come and surround me like a big circle above my bed, and they won't bother me or anything.
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.759
They won't come up to me unless I look at one.
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.319
And when I look at one, it's almost like permission.
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:20.400
And then they'll come forward and then they'll come stand by me, and sometimes they'll teach me like how to do things with my hands.
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:25.920
Um, another thing I do before I even go into any meditation is I'll open a circle of protection.
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:37.039
So I know that these beings are here to help me and to teach me, and for me to teach them because and for the longest time I'm like, why are you here?
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:44.720
And they'll like shake their heads and like we're not understanding you, you're not understanding us.
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.480
So I would write down questions, why are you here?
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:51.519
Yeah, why me?
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.720
Why me?
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.079
Why me, yeah.
00:30:54.240 --> 00:31:05.839
And then uh it just got to a point where um now they'll they'll hand me things and I'll I've practiced um being able to grab them and then I'll hand it back.
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:12.319
Uh it's a whole thing, it's been like a whole thing for many years now, but it's I don't know.
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:19.039
I I love when they show up, like they they used to scare me to death, but now I'm I'm like, oh yay, my friends are here tonight.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:27.759
That's part of one of things I'm wondering if I had been scared in the past and why I didn't start remembering until 2020.
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:35.039
But you know, but then as I said, just last week, I'm seeing myself, I was happy to see them when I was on the spaceship.
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.119
So I don't know if that was the case or not.
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.680
Maybe I'm was scared of them in 3D.
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:46.079
I don't know, but it's amazing that both Danny and I's life changed.
00:31:46.240 --> 00:32:00.079
We both had ordinary lives, and then all of a sudden, boom, we're both on YouTube doing um doing a YouTube channel, which is out of the ordinary, talking about the things that we talk about, and then it's just everything just changed all at the same time.
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:09.839
So it's almost like it they've been training us for so many years, and then the trigger goes off, and that's about time for these two to uh start talking about the stuff.
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:10.720
Yeah.
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:31.839
And I think it's the more people come forward and talk about their experiences, the closer we'll be to an actual disclosure day where it's not so we're not so crazy or weird or whatever to have these experiences because I think everyone is having them on some level and they just don't want to talk about it.
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:32.400
Right.
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.119
Well, this is they're scared talking about this.
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:41.039
I think this we've been doing disclosure day for how long Hayden, how long have you been talking about the extraterrestrials?
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:53.119
Oh, you know, it's ever since I was oh well, I mean, properly like on YouTube when I left um IT recruitment back in 2016, I think it was.
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:54.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.039
So you know, I was just uh doing a regular job and you know, IT recruitment.
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:07.039
The next thing I'd left and I was doing these videos on on different types of starseeds, you know, which was completely off the radar.
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.839
Yeah, I was following Aiden during that time.
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:11.279
Yeah.
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:28.400
It's so interesting that we're almost called, uh, or as you say, we're we're we've been trained um on some level to um play a part in this this consciousness growth for the humanity, uh you know, almost like a soft disclosure in a way.
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:28.799
Right.
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.400
Well, it is because look now, there's three of us talking about it.
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.680
Whereas 2016, would you be sitting there talking about this kind of subject matter?
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.079
It just wouldn't have happened.
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.200
I I um I wouldn't have felt comfortable talking about it necessarily.
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:59.119
Um, I it's interesting though, because when you when you said that, you know, it took me right back to the days of live TV when I was working on um it was called the Wi-Files, it was a show, it was I was working for the Murray Group newspaper.
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:07.680
Yeah, and I had to interview people over the telephone who'd had ET encounters, and they always used to tell me these amazing stories like you two are telling me.
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.760
And I'd be like, I believe them.
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:16.719
And everyone else uh, you know, who was part of my team would be saying, Hayden, don't listen to them, they're all off their nuts, you know.
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:23.519
Just get the story, we'll create a little tacky narrative, you know, that they can bash together to be able to put on tabloid TV.
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.199
And it was almost like a form of ridiculing these experiences back there.
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:33.039
But deep down I knew that what they were saying was real because I could hear it in their voices, right?
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.280
You know, I can I can tell when someone's lying.
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:47.920
I mean, when they started ridiculing it when people started seeing things in the 40s and the 50s and it carried on, so people, you know, lost their jobs, lost their families and everything if they came out and talked about it.
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:59.360
So the more and more of us, so it's why I think we tiptoe into it because we've seen it, been you know, seen what's happened to other people, but now we're joining forces and we're supporting each other.
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.639
So I'm I'm considering this is disclosure.
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:08.320
And I keep hearing um they were teaching us to remember.
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:18.079
So it's not even we we already know this stuff, we're just remembering that we know it, and it's all coming back.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.480
It's all a big loop, you know, a big beautiful loop.
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:28.400
Well, I find it quite interesting as well, because one of the one of the most fascinating chapters of your book, Dr.
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:49.280
Gell, um, was where you were uh uh delivering the hybrid children to that family in somewhere in America, I can't remember where, and that you end up giving them two babies, and then they were going to have twins themselves, so they were gonna end up with four children over the space of you know, like a year or something like that.
00:35:49.519 --> 00:36:15.199
Now, what's fascinating about that was that these were hybrid children uh that looked more human and that they were able to be able to function normally on the earth, and they had to have all this baby formula after a year, yeah, they would be able to function, but they had a yeah, yeah, they had a stringent you know thing to go through for a year to acclimate them to earth, right?
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:33.360
Okay, yeah, because I know that they had that formula, that they had this special formula, and and it was interesting because you chose a particular couple that were had been trying for a baby themselves for such a long time and they hadn't been able to do it, and they were so delighted when you showed up and you were like, Well, look, here's a hybrid baby, it needs looking after.
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:41.840
And that, you know, first the the mother um met it, and then the father came home from work and met it, and they were like, We love, we love the baby, we want to take it, rah- rah-rah.
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:47.199
And they were a bit scared about telling the mother-in-law, um, you know, just in case she freaks out a little bit.
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:56.000
But how fascinating that there was a human couple that so readily readily were able to take in a hybrid child during that time.
00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:14.400
Now, the reason why I'm sort of bringing this story up is that is there a is there a potential, obviously, with knowing now that you two are both uh you know hybrids, um, potentially, Tina being a Palladian hybrid, you being the Arcturian hybrid, that you were delivered in in a similar way within your own lives.
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.480
I mean, what we what were your upbringings like?
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:17.920
What were your parents like?
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:30.159
Yeah, again, that that is in my third book, and I do know how, because I was working so much with these hybrids and delivering them, and you know, we were doing C-sections, and I was just all involved in that hybrid program.
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.360
And I started questioning my own um, you know, where did I come from?
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.480
How did this happen?
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:47.840
Mine, my mother came with to me, she had passed, and she told me that she had agreed to have a hybrid child if they allowed her to have another one or regular.
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.880
So you can think about how many people weren't able to get pregnant.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.920
All of a sudden they got pregnant and then they get pregnant again.
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:58.800
Think about all those people, but a lot of them had deals with the ETs.
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:06.159
But for mine, I've got my father's DNA, my mother's DNA, and then they added Arcturian DNA to it in her ovary.
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.920
So that's how they did me.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.119
Now there's so many different ways they do this.
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.360
So that is just one avenue, and that's how I was created.
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:20.320
And um, and then she was able to have another child.
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.239
I think it was like 13 months later, she had her own child.
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:35.039
So that's very much what that same couple went through, and I think that's what made me started questioning my own um origin when I was doing all these things.
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:41.280
Now you remember in the in that chapter when they first brought me that baby, I was going, am I to raise this thing?
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:46.159
They handed me a human-looking baby, and I'm going, Am I gonna raise it?
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:47.840
What am I supposed to do with this?
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:55.280
So I remember I remember that feeling so clearly, and I'm just going, Okay, here's another mission.
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.480
This is something different.
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.000
I'm raising a baby.
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.280
So do you do you know who that that family is now?
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.400
Do you are you still in contact with the woman dad have got the hybrid children?
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.480
Do you know who they are and where they live?
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:07.360
I do.
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.400
You don't, but obviously you you know that's all top secret.
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:10.880
Right.
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:11.519
Yeah.
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:16.000
But that's wonderful that you know that you could you could go and visit them if you needed to.
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.800
I do go visit them in my next book.
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.719
There's another another thing.
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:21.760
No, not about them.
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:23.280
It's not about this, another family.
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.519
It's the family the farm family.
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:34.559
Remember the farm family who was uh was um harboring escaped ETs.
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.639
I have a deal with them.
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:37.840
Yeah.
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:38.639
Amazing.
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:39.199
It's amazing.
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:40.400
So what about you, Tina?
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.079
What was your butt background then?
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:43.760
You know, like your upbringing.
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.239
Do you did you know, was there any un like unusual events that took place?
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.559
Or, you know, do you look like your parents?
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.920
Or I do look like my parents.
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.480
Um, they were kind of hippies, they smoked a lot of weed.
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:03.039
Um, so my dad is uh hilarious.
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:13.440
He likes to talk about, yeah, he likes to talk about aliens and stuff, but he's also got the you know, the Bible belt fear of God in him.
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.719
So he's very much like, you can't talk about this sort of thing.
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:22.400
So I couldn't be more different uh in one way, but we're also very similar.
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:31.599
We can talk on the phone for two hours about how he feels like whenever he has these dreams that he's a messenger from God and he flies in a spaceship.
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:32.960
I'm like, okay, duh.
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:34.880
All right, we're not that different.
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:36.800
So where do you live?
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.639
Um, I'm in Austin and he's in uh the Dallas area.
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.800
Okay, okay, okay.
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:43.760
Yeah.
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:52.800
Um, but yeah, I was delivered C-section, but I I know I'm, you know, my parents' kid because I do look like both of them.
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.440
So right, I'm a parents' kid, but they just add an ET um DNA to that.
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:03.199
Yeah, I you know, I that wouldn't surprise me because there's there's something different about me.
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.440
I know there is, but I just do you have any brothers and sisters?
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.480
I've got one biological brother, and then I've got a half brother and a half sister.
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.960
So was the biological one was that born pretty quickly after you were born?
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.400
Three years later.
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.480
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:21.760
And we look identical.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:22.320
It's weird.
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.840
If you put a wig on him, we would look like the same person.
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.239
It's it's kind of creepy.
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:29.519
Everybody says that.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:30.719
They're like, whoa.
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.840
So I wonder if you both are then.
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:34.480
That's interesting.
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:38.639
You might have been like, I don't know, split from the same cell or something.
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:39.920
Yeah, huh?
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:40.480
Maybe.
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.559
I mean, we we think alike, we talk alike, uh, laugh alike.
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:45.599
It's interesting.
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:46.880
What about missing time?
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.199
Did uh did you have missing time, Tina, in like during your earlier years?
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:52.239
I do.
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.320
A lot of it was um like middle school.
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.320
Well, actually, middle school and before that.
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.880
There's just been missing chunks of time.
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:10.239
Um, I was raised a lot by my grandparents because my mom and dad uh got divorced when I was really little.
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:34.159
And so I just traveled around in the RV with my grandparents and you know, but during the times I was with my mom, um, I don't really remember those times as much because there was some there was some trauma in my house too that I won't get into, but I definitely uh was disassociated, I guess.
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:42.000
I was gonna say, I think that is another thing about hybrids is they have an easy time disassociating.
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:53.599
And I and I don't know that that's truly because of just your trauma or just the fact that hybrids do have an easy time disassociating from what's going on around them.
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.599
I do think that's kind of a common thread.
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:18.639
Yeah, another I will say another kind of interesting thing that um has been happening for years is if I get sick or if I get down, um, the one group that comes in that teaches me stuff with my hands, they'll put hands on me and like I just start glowing from the inside out.
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.719
Like it's almost like a med bed or something.
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.360
They'll just come and just heal me.
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:23.920
Right.
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.000
And then I've been able to do that now with others with my hands.
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:29.760
So good.
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:36.800
And that's very similar to the work that you were doing on the uh Ashtar Medical one, isn't it?
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:41.039
You know, with working with a lot of medbed type technology and colored light therapy.
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:42.800
I didn't use medbeds.
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:52.639
Um, we used, I mean, we had different equipment, but I always associate meds more with the palladians.
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:59.280
Um, but I on the hybrid spaceship, we didn't have a medbeds or I didn't see a room with medbeds.
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:14.719
Um Now when I worked on the Athena, we did have a lot of um, and it wasn't called medbeds, but it was these tanks that we put people in to um heal their um injuries and things.
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.039
So that's a whole different story.
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:32.559
But on the first spaceship I worked on, you know, we were doing using all this equipment alighting the chakras and um doing a lot of color therapy, and we were taking out implants and putting in implants and doing all sorts of things there.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.119
And I got to design my operating room, whatever species was coming in there.
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.679
Like if it was human, it had this kind of design.
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.039
If it was a reptilian, I had to have this kind of design.
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:47.679
So that was the kind of technology that was on that spaceship.
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:56.400
Yeah, that was Athena is so Tina is short for Athena, like you like go back in the mythology.
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:57.920
So I don't know, that's kind of cool.
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:03.679
Yeah, the Athena is an Arcturian spaceship, but it housed any kind of all species.
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:08.719
It was just it was built by the um Arcturian, so it had a kind of Arcturian feel to it.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.639
Now the Astro Medical One was more gray, gray hybrids.
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:18.000
It was more linked to that, but it was just a hybrid spaceship.
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.320
Um about the grays.
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.199
So I've never experienced the grays.
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:30.639
Um, I've always been kind of I nothing really scares me, but have you what do you think?
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.320
I mean, are there well there's like every uh every species, there's good ones and bad ones.
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:37.039
Sure.
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.400
So um, you know, there's even bad palladians.
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.280
We just not haven't dealt with them.
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.360
You know, there's bad arturans, we really haven't dealt with them, but we have dealt with some bad grays.
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:55.440
I don't know how much of that's around anymore, but that's usually what we associate grays with.
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:57.280
But there's so many different types.
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.840
I mean, there's at least three or four species, different species that I know of.
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:12.719
Do you think the reason why we're not seeing the grays as much is because the earth has raised our vibrations so much that um some of the negative entities can't right.
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:14.239
The bad, yeah, the bad grays.
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:14.639
Yes.
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:20.480
The bad grays can't uh bad reptilians aren't here as much anymore.
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:24.960
But but the good grays are and the um good reptilians are.
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.840
It's interesting, we're talking about the grays.
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:59.440
Uh, yesterday I did a a little channeling from the Andromedons for on Lionsgate, because obviously we're just we've just entered that activation window, you know, between the 26th of July and the the 12th of August, where the you know Sirius A and the pyramids and uh the sun's in Leo, and that all everything goes into alignment, which means that we're able to access uh or remember more more parts of our multidimensionality.
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:12.800
And uh during that channeling, I uh a grey, a tall gray, uh sort of came in or stepped forward, and I I started doing some light language that was very different to what I normally do, just for about three minutes.
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:24.800
And I I was quite shocked because it was so different, the sounds of it, than it was you know, when I try and uh do light language for with the Andromedans.
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:33.039
And um I didn't realize that the grey uh the grey the tall greys used light language.
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.599
I thought that they were all telepathic.
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.480
Well, there's different with all of them.
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:46.239
Um they're probably telepathic, also, but they probably have language too.
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:48.000
But every species is different.
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.079
It's hard to lump them all in the same thing.
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.519
This is what all the grays do, this is all what the platines do, this is what all the Arcturians do.
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:06.400
They're all different levels, just like you can't say on earth a frog does the same thing as a human, so you can't say that about all their species either.
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.039
Okay, yeah, no, that makes perfect sense.
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:21.280
Yeah, I think that's what helped me to be able to sort of look at disclosure day in a very different way, because while the problem I had with it initially was well, I didn't feel like the the ETs would crash a spaceship.
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:25.280
I thought that they would be way too intelligent to actually crash a spaceship into the rocks.
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:26.960
I'd be like, well, why would they do that?
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.280
You know, their technology's so advanced.
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:53.119
But then, you know, it's like you were saying, it's it's like each extraterrestrial race has you know both evolved, and maybe other parts of the same group aren't as involved, and they are, you know, you also have to think about like we're curling through space, so this is probably it's probably not as simple as it sounds to come into a different atmosphere and land a spaceship.
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.079
You know, it's just I'm just getting this download.
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:58.639
Like, no, it is not easy to land.
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:12.559
That's why a lot of it's still in like fifth dimensions sort of thing, like breathing, living ships that aren't even like it's not like a solid, you know.
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:13.519
I don't know.
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.840
Yeah, no, that makes sense, absolutely.
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.400
So because you learned how to fly a spaceship, Gail, didn't you?
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.800
And you know, that took quite a lot of practice.
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:31.360
It was Mondo that was your teacher initially, but then ultimately Moon became um also a teacher for you as well.
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.000
Read my book, Satan.
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.679
You gave it to me.
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.920
I need to catch up.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.440
I definitely will, though.
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:48.719
Yes, Monto was a one of the first ones that came in, gold being from the star Solaris, and um he taught me how to fly a spaceship.
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:57.679
Now he didn't, we only talked telepathically between the two of us with him, but he taught me how to fly a spaceship, and it's not as easy as people think.
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.960
You don't just pop up there and learn how you're flying a spaceship.
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.119
I made a lot of mistakes.
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:05.119
So, how do you do it?
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.639
Do you use your mind to be able to control it and navigate it?
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.159
Is it all thought control?
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:16.079
It's all thought control, and just imagine trying to keep your thoughts on what you're saying.
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.400
Have you ever crashed one accidentally?
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:25.440
No, but my most devastating thing I did was I'm kind of a daredevil.
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.559
I'm kind of a daredevil.
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:40.400
So one day on the spaceship, I was going, I'd like to see what an ant looks like on earth.
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:43.039
Here we go.
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.480
You know, so there's those kind of things.
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:53.679
And then I remember one day sitting there telling them, oh, I was easy to train, and they all started laughing.
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.119
You know, of course I wasn't, made so many mistakes.
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:00.000
It's fascinating.
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:00.880
It's fascinating.
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.000
So yeah, I can imagine it's it's definitely not easy.
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.000
And um not for humans.
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.000
Yeah, how long did it take you to to fly them?
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:11.760
I have no idea.
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:13.920
I don't know the timeline on that.
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.119
I don't even know.
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:18.000
Yeah, no, I have I have no idea.
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:31.440
Is that because you were entering the missions at different phases and you were never really sure um, you know, what part of you know the I guess, you know, regular time that you were doing those.
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:32.239
Right.
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:40.960
And you know, one of the things about it was when I started learning how to fly the spaceship, that's when I was having so much physical reaction to it afterwards.
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:47.599
Like I had to go, you know, where they started me on a five-day bland diet.
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:53.840
Didn't know why I was going on a five-day bland diet, but I had to go on a five-day bland diet before I was approached by the ET.
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:01.360
And when I was approached by him, and then we finished going up for the first time, I was sick for several weeks afterwards.
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:04.320
Only thing I could eat was bread for like two weeks.
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:05.679
I was so sick.
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:10.480
And then it happened again the next time I went up, and then it got better and better and better.
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:16.320
But, you know, in the beginning, I was so sick with those interactions like that, going up in the spaceship.
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:28.960
It's gotta be hard for the the human vessel, the 3D vessel to um, you know, I just see it in my head like uh like you turn into salt almost like you're gone and then you're back.
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.639
Yeah, I think it was learning to go from 3D to 5D, just physical.
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:43.440
Uh and it might be because my um mine was so quick, you know, moved so quickly, learning how to do all these things or just remembering how to do it.
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:53.360
And I think a lot of people might do it a little more slowly, so they might not have as much of a physical reaction, but mine was very physical.
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:57.519
I wonder if human wanted to sorry, Hayden.
00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:58.480
That's okay.
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:07.440
If a human wanted to be approached, um, is there a way that you can call that in so you can be like, hey, I want to sign up and learn more?
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:09.199
Yeah, I think you can.
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:19.199
I think you can um talk to them and ask them, but they're gonna start coming in your dreams because of your reaction to them because there's so many people who say, Oh, yeah, I want to meet them.
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.079
Well, when you do, you gotta be prepared just like you did.
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:35.599
You started crying, you were scared, so you've got to be prepared that you you're gonna have this flight or fight reaction, probably when you first see them and or deer and headlights.
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:46.960
So you've got to be prepared for that, and not everybody's thinking of that, and they might have already had an interaction and it came off as fear, and they they just blanked them out where they don't remember it.
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:58.960
Do you feel as if your background in the emergency uh, you know, in a hospital environment prepared you to be able to, you know, sort of deal with that that emotional range?
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.079
Oh my gosh, yes.
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.000
I mean, they have directed me every step of my way in my life.
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:17.360
I mean, to become a nurse, to work in the operating room, to specialize in heart surgery and urosurger, to go back to school, to become a chiropractor, to specialize in the spine and the nervous system, to this.
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.079
And then, you know, I dealt with my dad with dementia.
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:26.960
So I yes, every step of the way, it led to what I do today or what I started, especially what I was doing.
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:40.719
Because when I worked in the um, when I walked into the first operating room when I was on this astral medical one, even though it was fancy or more modern or more advanced equipment, I knew how to use it.
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.280
I knew what each thing was new because I hadn't used it in 3D in the operating room.
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.039
I knew how to work with it.
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:52.159
So every step of the way, they have directed me.
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.840
And that that realization was I never did anything along.
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:57.920
Somebody was telling me what to do.
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:00.480
It's interesting, Tina, isn't it?
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:06.079
So that means that you sometimes like your background prepares you for what you're what you're going to be experiencing.
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:13.280
So um I feel like you, you know, you also would be somebody that has been prepared for what's next.
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:19.039
And you know, depending on your fear response, you know, is is as and when that'll happen for you.
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.880
Do you feel like you are ready for for something like that yourself?
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.239
I mean, I'm open to anything.
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.159
I think it I love adventure.
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.440
I'm I'm kind of like um like you are.
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.920
I'm a little bit of a daredevil myself.
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.880
So yeah, I was go.
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:45.679
Yeah, I think I think just the fact that and this happens a lot in my YouTube channel with people coming in with these brand new experiences.
00:55:45.840 --> 00:56:04.960
And even you, Hayden, you know, whenever you start talking to me, I I feel like I activate a lot of people that they start remembering some of the things that happened to them, or it makes it okay to talk about it when I'm talking about my things, and just um all of a sudden, oh, here's somebody is a safe place to talk.
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.159
Whatever she's saying, my stuff is not as crazy as hers.
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:09.360
So this is good.
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:11.679
That's it.
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:23.599
No one's no one's stuff is as crazy as yours, and and you know, talking about crazy, one of the the the most interesting parts of the book, I think, was your relationship with Moon, which is your white Alsatian.
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:36.639
Um it was a white German shepherd, German shepherd, and and Moon has the ability to shape shift into a human and also then a Sasquatch or a uh a Yeti, a white Yeti.
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:49.440
And uh I did I got to I think one of the final chapters of of one of the books, and uh you start talking about how that relationship obviously had grown and developed over the years.
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:55.199
Uh, that you used to go on missions just together, you know, after you'd been taught how to fly a spaceship through Monto.
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:09.920
Um, and then I didn't realize that Moon was deceased, and you were talking about the very first time that you'd met Monto as a puppy, and I was just like it was like watching Red Dog all over again.
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:26.400
I was like, oh god, I was I started welling up, and it was just so sad that this very ancient relationship that you had with your dog that you know, where you were both on these missions together, um, had come to an end, you know.
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:34.639
It was well, that was that's another thing that I've come to realize in the past couple of weeks is that growing up I had a wolf living under my bed.
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.039
Well, what's happened?
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.480
German shepherd.
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.480
That's my wolf that was living under bed.
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:49.440
And I've had four German shepherds in my life, so they've all it's been moon's been in my life all the whole time, and that has been protecting me.
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:54.880
And so, and then of course, she's passed away and she's on the other side.
00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:00.079
That same wolf, actually, that was under my bed, is now still here with me.
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:10.159
That's right, because nothing ever is lost, you know, it's just not it's not part of the the construct of creation, nothing is ever created or destroyed.
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:16.320
So she's still working with you um cerebrally, you know, in spirit form, and and is always there.
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.920
I I know that you talked about your relationship with your father and how you used to meet him on this bench under a tree.
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.519
And do you is that where you you meet Moon now as well?
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:31.519
Well, it just meet them all different, but that is that is the specific spot that I've meet, you know.
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.440
That is like it's like everybody has a bench by a water or river, and that's where they meet.
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.880
And so that's where that's kind of like my place to meet all the time.
00:58:43.519 --> 00:59:06.000
You know, and in fact, one time when I was um working with one of the I can't remember who it was, I was working with, I was meeting him at that same spot, but we met at a picnic table where he'd sit across from me, and it was somebody who was I was channeling the information from, and and it was one of those, you know, giving these great messages.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:10.159
So anyway, so that's just my spot.
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.440
That's your spot.
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:15.440
That's your spot to connect with everyone on the astral plane.
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.119
That's that's wonderful.
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:28.960
So um but you know, when I started, when we when I was meditating, Moon would started putting her head next to mine, you know, and her body would be in one direction and my body being the other.
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:44.079
And she started astral traveling with me when she was alive, and we would go up off earth into what I called the net, because we pretended like it was a hammock, and we'd lay out there looking at the stars and the moon and everything out there at that time.
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:48.159
We'd just go out on vacation and just hang out there.
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:52.719
It reminds me of the movie Hail Mary, the the rock, the rocky.
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.239
Have you seen Hail Mary?
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:55.199
Either one of you?
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:55.760
No.
00:59:56.159 --> 01:00:17.119
Um, so they're on a mission, they're in space, and um, there's one US astronaut, and then there's uh got hooked up to another spaceship from a different place, and they became friends, and it looks kind of like my dog, you know, it's like it's a rock, but it has like arms and legs, but it looks it, it kind of I don't know.
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.000
You guys need to see Hail Mary, it's so good.
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You're gonna love it, you'll both love it.
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I I find that uh sometimes the movies do reflect reality, you know.
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There is that sort of juxtaposition between truth and and fantasy, isn't there?
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That they that they they sort of like it's almost like the the truth is hidden in plain sight.
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And uh there are movies that you know, like the one you've just described, I think that prepare us for what's about to come.
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:55.599
I I've been learning quite a lot recently about the construct of reality and uh you know about the different realms and that this construct is coming to an end.
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Do you feel that that this is true?
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And and if so, do you feel like this is why we're able to have these types of conversations without feeling embarrassed or like we're gonna be ridiculed?
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Do you feel like this is part of the construct breaking down?
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I've been teaching new earth classes for several years now, and um, it's very much we are in this phase of in and out.
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Like uh you can see it, you know, it just depends on where you focus your intentions and what you want to see.
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If I don't want to see anything negative, I don't turn on the TV for a day, and it's amazing.
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I'm in New Earth, right?
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And then you, if you flip on the TV, you're gonna get pulled back into, you know, the wars and the you know, conflicts.
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And so I I very much think that um it's all happening and it's all about raising the earth's vibration.
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And I I think that's my main, I'm besides being a mother, I think that's one of my main missions is to help elevate the vibration of the earth for the shift that we're in right now.
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Yeah, I think that's all of our missions to around the vibration of earth.
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But the breakdown of the construct, I don't I don't know that there's gonna be um any defining moment when all of a sudden it's gone.
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:29.440
I think it's just gonna go incrementally, and I think it anything can change during the time of time.
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I and I think it used to be for so many years.
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So it was this is how it's gonna be.
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Boom, we're gonna be in 3D, boom, we're gonna be in 5D.
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.000
It's not gonna work like this.
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Here we're gonna meet the extraterrestrials tomorrow we're not, or today we don't meet them, tomorrow we're not.
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I don't think anything moves like that.
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.719
In fact, I see things taking like hundreds of years to change.
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So I quit trying to predict things like that on what's gonna happen because it is so slow moving.
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We might be sitting here talking about it, and yes, I agree with you, Aiden, that we have moved to a point where we can talk about it, but just think of all the people that are back here who can't talk about it.
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Right.
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And I'm on some level, if you think if you think about it, um, I think there's going to be a separation and there's going to be an old earth and a new earth.
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:37.119
I really I and I'm a Dolores Cannon fan uh from back in the day, and you know, the all the books and I strongly feel like one is energetic and the other one is going to be like a crumbling, fiery, you know.
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I but that's just me.
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:45.760
I I might be wrong, but you you can see it kind of happening, but it's like it's an energetic thing.
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.679
It's not so much like, you know, does that make sense?
01:03:50.000 --> 01:04:03.840
Yeah, I've I've seen twice now, and I've written that in my last chapter of a book where I've seen that I am in a well for a time I thought I was in an airplane with a bunch of light workers.
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I knew half, not half of them, I knew a lot of them.
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:10.320
I seen a lot, all of them were in stupors, and I was the only one awake.
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And we were flown to a place where we're taken into this compound, and we were set down, and anyway, and our pets were in one room, kids were over here, whatever they were um, they were there, and so I thought I was a prisoner, and I had to pretend like I was asleep in a super like they were, and then all of a sudden I was awake in my bed.
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:41.440
It happened again like three years later, and then the same scenario, then I realized at that time I'm in a spaceship.
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:55.519
I'm in a spaceship full of light workers, and it's this this plane is all women that that that spaceship over there is all men, and so I'm not sure how all everything was being separated, but we were taken to another planet, and what happened?
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:08.880
I saw Earth imploding, totally imploding, and and then another Earth right beside it was created in three days, and we were all taken back and put in place like nothing had ever happened.
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So I don't know if that's how it's gonna happen, but I've I've I've had that twice now.
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I've also noticed that the the um the more I'm living this day-to-day, um, the more things don't look so solid anymore.
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Like I run into things because everything's kind of vibrating.
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:39.599
And like, wait a minute, let's make sure the wall is, you know, let's not run into things.
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:53.119
So like I haven't driven my car in probably in months, just not because I'm scared of that, but just it's just I don't it's like less, less need to leave my house.
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:54.079
You know what I mean?
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:59.760
Well, see, I'm the total opposite because when I get in my car and drive, that's almost going into meditation.
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And I'm just open, open to all the information coming in at that time.
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:07.519
Yeah.
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It's interesting.
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:12.960
Kevin Briggs talks about that shimmery effect in his book.
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He's another contactee.
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He was since a child contacted by the Palladians, a couple of Palladians that had been monitoring him.
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And when he would feel their presence, he would almost describe the atmosphere around him as becoming a lot less solid.
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And he would see it almost like by looking through a block of ice, he would describe it as everything would go a bit shimmery, and the the air temperature around him would go cooler.
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And he could just sense that he was being watched or um you know observed in some way until the day that he he actually saw these two beings for the first time when he was in the bath, actually.
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.719
And um funny story.
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:57.679
It's a little up close and personal.
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.719
Well, he was only he was I think he was nine years old, wasn't he?
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:01.760
Oh, okay.
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:15.840
Yeah, he was he was only a kid when that happened, and uh it was just interesting the way you were describing the you know the the nature of 3D reality as kind of becoming a little bit less solid than it used to feel.
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:25.679
And I think that you know that's that's probably another indication that you know that you are crossing in between dimensions uh frequencies without realizing it.
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:45.760
The other thing that came up for me as well for you, Tina, when you were talking earlier on about this special program that you maybe um don't you that you're unaware of that you were um involved in where the military are now observing or or kind of remote viewing you, um could it have been connected with the psychic children's uh special programs?
01:07:45.840 --> 01:08:04.079
Because I know that people like Kyra, you know, were you know were also involved in these types of programs where they took the psychic children and and knowing you being a life path 11 and uh Piscean, you're a seven that's right seven, but you've got a is it the you're a double seven, aren't you?
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.119
The seven seven.
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I'm a Pisces, also.
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My birthday is eleven.
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There you go.
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So you've got the two Pisceans, which are the most evolved of you know the astrological uh the zodiac, but then you've also got the seven, which is the seeker of truth, and the eleven, which is the master frequency, you know, often very, very psychic, um, or clairvoyant.
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:40.399
Um, so they're that you know they they've chosen almost like highly evolved uh beings to begin with, to to to to work with.
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Do you does that resonate with you?
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Do you feel like you were maybe part of that type of psychic program where there were you know that you were um I don't know, like tested?
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:57.279
Well, we we were I'm not necessarily thinking that we were part of military, but we were being trained.
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We were off planet being trained because we're hybrids.
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Okay.
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So I remember as a a child, um, I whenever I was very young, maybe like in first or second grade, um I had a meeting or I was in a meeting and my mom was there, and they wanted to raise me into a different grade.
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Um, and so I went to a different grade.
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I went to a different classroom.
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I don't know, I can't recall everything, but I just remember I was there for a while and I just said, I don't have any friends here.
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I want to go back to my other classroom.
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But that's the only thing that just came into my head that actually that I remember that I was taken out of my classroom and put into a different classroom for a while.
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But I can't even tell you why or anything.
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:53.760
But that actually happened.
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Okay.
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:55.359
Yeah.
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:57.279
That would make sense, wouldn't it?
01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:58.079
That would make sense.
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.439
It maybe, maybe those types of things are worth exploring more.
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.000
You know, what what for what purpose?
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:15.600
You know, it was there was there some training that was taking place or were they monitoring you at the you know from that that age, maybe I I don't know how the psychic children are are chosen.
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:20.640
I I've never really um well I think it comes from the military families.
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:22.720
Oh, is that yeah, I do.
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I think it's the military families that they come from, and I think it's um they approach the family that's already in the military.
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:37.680
I think those are the children that they go for because that's easier to have access to them.
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:40.800
Okay, right.
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:41.760
Yeah, that makes sense.
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.720
I find that a lot of people are wearing masks too.
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:59.760
It's like I'll meet somebody and they'll say, This is what I do, this is my title, or they'll just approach me and this is what I do, and I kind of find out later that's not really who they are, or like why are you so interested?
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You know, you know what I mean?
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:11.359
It's like um I think a lot of people are trained to be somebody else to get you to come to them or something.
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Am I making sense?
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:18.079
Like, yeah, but I mean, because people don't know what I do outside the neighborhood and everything here.
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:22.560
I mean, them they're um retired chiropractor, retired nurse.
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:28.960
So how easy is that to approach somebody who's in the medical field versus this is what I'm doing, you know.
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:29.760
Right.
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:32.319
Yeah, yeah, much more approachable.
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:47.279
I guess that's so definitely trickery, but like um, you know, a lot of people can't announce, hey, this is what I do, and I'm interesting you for this reason, because you go, Well, I I don't know, you know.
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:49.680
Yeah.
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:50.880
Got it.
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.159
So they they wear a mask in order to get close.
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It feels I not even I I I'm saying it more like a they're not introducing themselves as as this is who I am.
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:09.279
Just kind of like if someone's in the CIA, they're not gonna come up and be like, hey, yeah, that's what I do.
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:09.840
Right.
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.399
You know, because they're not allowed to tell you.
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.279
Well, I don't think either I or Dr.
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.720
Gail are members of the CIA yet.
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:22.720
But who knows?
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:27.279
Well, I mean, does do your neighbors and everything know what you do?
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:28.399
Oh yeah.
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.880
Oh yeah, I'm I'm the neighborhood kind of weirdo.
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.600
So nobody knows what I do.
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:38.960
So I would be one of those people that's wearing the mask.
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:40.000
Yeah.
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:45.840
I I learned a about I don't know, eight or nine years ago.
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:47.439
I couldn't.
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:53.439
It's just um, you know, people were showing interest in my life in a negative way.
01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:05.279
And um, so I decided I'm going to be so public that if they want to research me, here's lots of lives that I'm doing, here's all my data.
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:10.800
You you can go ahead and decipher it and research that all you want because I have nothing to hide.
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:12.079
So here I am.
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:14.960
Fascinating.
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:19.600
Well, it's been a a highly fascinating conversation today, ladies.
01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:28.479
Uh, do you uh do you feel that that's uh helped bring clarity into you know some of the thoughts and feelings that you've been getting, Tina?
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:30.079
It does.
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:36.319
Um I yeah, I find it fascinating to learn that I'm a hybrid because I didn't know that.
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.279
I mean, yeah.
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:48.640
There's so much I don't know, and I think the day I I'm like, oh, I know everything, that's the day when you know, I don't like, yeah.
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:53.760
So I'm always going to be curious and wanting to know more.
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.520
And, you know, as humans, we're our favorite subject.
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:02.399
So it's very interesting to find out these things, and I appreciate the insight.
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:07.119
So, what is it that you do that you're so public about?
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:13.199
Um, so I uh own a crystal business and I'm a Reiki master.
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:18.079
Um I'm an astrologer, I'm a numerologist.
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:24.239
Um I do all kinds of things, but yeah, and I I'm a teacher.
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:25.680
What is your big thing?
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:26.319
What do you use?
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:31.520
My crystal, my crystal business and and Reiki are my two.
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:32.800
Yeah.
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.279
Yeah, so that's uh you know, you do most beautiful crystal jewelry as well, don't you?
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:40.079
Thank you.
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:41.520
I'm wearing one right now.
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:42.800
It's one of my pieces.
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:45.199
Yeah, it's beautiful.
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:51.840
So so what I'll do is I'll pop down in the uh description of the video your the links to your websites, etc.
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.880
etc., so people will know where to find you.
01:14:55.119 --> 01:15:00.640
And um obviously you as well, Gail, um, with you know the amazing work that you're doing.
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:08.960
And I highly encourage anybody who's watching this podcast today to um to read read your books, you know.
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:10.800
I can't wait to read the third one now.
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:19.039
It's it took me a while to read uh one and two, but I just needed some time, you know, to sort of chill out and and absorb the information.
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:24.640
And it was just it transported me, uh, as you can imagine, into a completely different realm.
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:27.039
And I loved it um so so much.
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.039
Both of the books were really well written.
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.399
As a a client, uh a planetary client liaison.
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:39.840
I think that you are always a little bit scared about being being sacked from that role, and eventually, you know, that role did end.
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.159
Uh, have you been given your next mission yet?
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:47.199
Well, that that interplanetary liaison, that is actually what Danny does now.
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:50.720
He yes, he's much better at it than I am.
01:15:50.960 --> 01:16:03.359
So he is that, and um, so he's like a diplomat, but his title, I think I'm not sure if it's still interplanetary liaison or what his title is now, but that's the direction he goes in.
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:08.560
Whereas mine's the medical espionage, that kind of thing.
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:09.760
Wonderful.
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:14.800
And and and is that you know what you're doing now when you go off planet?
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:28.079
What right now my mission is right is um going in and getting the hybrid babies that have been distributed because the reptilians have discovered the list of them and where they're located.
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:36.239
So we're having to go get these babies and take them up to a spaceship to protect them until we can get rid of those reptilians.
01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.279
Oh wow, how did they find out?
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:40.239
I don't know.
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:41.359
I don't know that part.
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:43.520
There's so many details that I don't know.
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:48.800
I just go and do what they tell me to do, and my job is to get the babies.
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:49.600
Wow.
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:51.359
Well, you know, good luck with all of that.
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:58.800
I you know, I wish uh I wish that you you get all of them safely back to where they need to be without any infiltration there.
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.359
It's um it's just mind-blowing stuff, isn't it?
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:05.199
Well, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you both go.
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:15.279
Is there anything that either of you would like to either say to each other or any questions that you've got that you've been sitting on that you've not you know sort of asked yet?
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:18.079
I think I asked mine.
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:22.960
One thing, um, so I was also told that I have hybrid children.
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:23.439
Oh, yeah.
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:26.800
Um, I've been told that within the past six months.
01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:27.359
Yeah.
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:31.359
So that's something that is like yeah.
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.520
I have six that I know of.
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:34.640
Wow.
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:41.600
So maybe you and I can talk uh at some point because I I feel like we have got a lot to talk about.
01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:46.000
Yes, in fact, my next book is gonna be about hybrids.
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:52.000
Wow, that's it's gonna be really quite the same as the last three.
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:54.800
This last three was a series of all about aliens.
01:17:55.039 --> 01:18:01.039
I guess this will be under that title too, but this is gonna be more matter of fact, it's just about hybrids.
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:02.239
Wow.
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:08.720
I think you two have got a lot of catching up to do and a lot of talking and delving deeply down the rabbit hole.
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I'm so delighted that you know I was able to bring you both together today during uh today's chat.
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:20.319
And um, yeah, I can't wait to uh to see where all this goes for both of you.
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:21.920
Thank you, Hayden.
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Yes, thank you for having us.
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You're welcome.
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:26.079
All right, guys.
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Well, I'm gonna love you and leave you.
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Thanks again for watching Cosmetic Conversations.
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Today we explored experiences that challenge our understanding of reality and invite us to ask some of the biggest questions uh that we actually can contemplate.
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What is consciousness?
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What exists uh beyond what we can see?
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And how do we make sense of experiences that seem to expand the boundaries of human perception?
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A huge thank you once again to Tina Briggs for courageously sharing her personal experiences and Dr.
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Gail McLeod for sharing her perspective, knowledge, and insights from her own extraordinary journey.
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Whether you view these encounters as experiences of consciousness, contact, multidimensional awareness, or something we're still learning to understand.
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The most important thing is continuing the conversation with curiosity, compassion, and an open heart.
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