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Speaker 1: Show requested.
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Speaker 2: So here it is. As long as you've got da-da-dada.
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Speaker 3: It's ZM's Brian Clint Podcast. I saw this crazy story that's resurfered, resurfered, resurfaced, sorry, from a few years ago about a law student who has cheated in a test.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: There's some professions, I mean, you shouldn't cheat anyway. There's some professions you don't want people to have cheated in. Law is one of them. If I'm facing jail time, I don't want my lawyer to be a cheater.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Unless they're going to cheat the system for me.
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Speaker 3: Which, I mean, that could work out.
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Speaker 2: And surgeon.
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Speaker 3: But you kind of want them to know what they can and can't do when it comes to the law.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a cell with them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He was studying criminal procedural law, which I would imagine is incredibly hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And going into a test, he decided that instead of studying, he was going to scratch the entire syllabus... into 11 different pens.
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Speaker 2: I've seen this. He scratched it on those clear Bic pens. Yes. It looks like hieroglyphics.
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Speaker 3: It's the tiniest writing. It's microscopic. Yeah. Like handwritten notes across the plastic barrels.
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Speaker 2: It's like when you go to Asia and they write your name on a grain of rice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But smaller.
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Speaker 3: And apparently, according to reports, it was the entire syllabus that he painstakingly like scratched into every plastic barrel of those pens.
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Speaker 2: It's so much effort and it's so much work that I don't understand why he didn't just Study.
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Speaker 3: That's what people have said. They're like, if you put this much work into studying.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But maybe he was the type of person where he was like, I just know myself. I'm never going to be able to retain this much information. At least he shows he's got commitment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But there's an argument there that you're studying the wrong thing. You know that the job's not for you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but everyone learns different. I'm so for the different learners.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of us have to scratch the whole syllabus into 10 big pens. You're right. You know what? Shame on me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, shame on you, Clint.
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Speaker 2: Shame on me.
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Speaker 3: Everyone learns differently. It has popped up again because the professor who confiscated the pens during the exam found them in his drawer and was like, look at this relic.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I see. Because he confiscated the pens and threw them in the drawer.
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Speaker 3: And he didn't want to throw them out because he thought it was so impressive.
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Speaker 2: It's so impressive.
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Speaker 3: He was like, I don't want to throw these out because it's kind of impressive.
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Speaker 2: Which it is. I wonder what happened to that guy. Because he's kind of a genius. Like he's obviously a moron, but also kind of a genius.
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Speaker 1: Like.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, his brain just works differently.
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Speaker 2: The skill required to etch all of that information onto the pens. You guys can't see them. I'm trying to explain it to you. You know like those Egyptian hieroglyphic tablets?
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Speaker 3: It's so tiny. Like think of a– what do you guys call a biro?
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Speaker 2: A pen.
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Speaker 1: A pen.
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Speaker 3: Like a pen, like in that plastic-like covering.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And the writing has to be so tiny where at first glance you wouldn't be able to tell– But then obviously how close did he have to look to read it?
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Speaker 2: No, the dead giveaway was why have you got 10 pins?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is a bit of a dead giveaway.
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Speaker 2: You take one pin and one backup pin, don't you? I don't know. It's been a long time since I've done an exam.
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Speaker 3: God, I hated exams. Oh, I hated them.
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Speaker 2: Did you?
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Speaker 3: I was so bad at them. I'd always finish early and then I'd second guess myself.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'd be like, why am I finishing so much earlier than everyone else? I would just sit there.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave.
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Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, oh, no.
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Speaker 2: That's too much of a statement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: And one time, one time it's because I'd missed a whole section of the test. And I was like, oh, no, I'm screwed.
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Speaker 2: We want to talk to cheaters this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: People who are willing to admit that they cheated at something and tell us how they did it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be anything, literally anything. It could be a board game and it could have been like a hack that you had. I remember back in the day when we would play Uno at our family batch.
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Speaker 1: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno.
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Speaker 3: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno.
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Speaker 3: Uno.
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Speaker 1: Uno.
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Speaker 3: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno.
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Speaker 4: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno. The card game.
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Speaker 3: Potato, potato.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it Uno, like numero uno?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I've always called it Uno.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: And I would, before we would play.
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Speaker 2: Uno dos tres.
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Speaker 3: Uno, uno, uno, dos, tres, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know? You know.
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Speaker 3: Why am I calling it you know then? Anyway, I would hide before we were playing the game. I would go to the kitchen table where we would play and I would hide cards up in the, like, joinery.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 3: Underneath the table.
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Speaker 2: Under the table. Yeah, that's good shit.
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Speaker 3: Like a pick up four.
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Speaker 2: Like an Uno Reverso under the table. Yeah, just like a couple.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good shit. And then at any point I'd just pull them out from under the table.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: And away you go.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know.
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Speaker 3: Okay, leave it.
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Speaker 2: Drop it down. People are texting in, not you know.
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Speaker 3: So they were with me.
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Speaker 2: No, they said not you know.
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Speaker 3: No, I know it's you know.
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Speaker 2: No, not you know.
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Speaker 3: Oh, look at that person.
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Speaker 2: You know. No, no. How do you know? They're in uno.
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Speaker 1: E-W-N-O.
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Speaker 2: Someone said ew, no. Yeah, uno.
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Speaker 3: Not you, no.
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Speaker 2: Bree, you are saying it correct for us Aussies. No, that doesn't make it correct.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: No, that doesn't make it. I feel good.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that person texting in. I appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: We asked you guys, have you cheated and how did you do it? Leanne's here. Hi, Leanne.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Leanne. Hi.
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Speaker 2: Are you a big, fat, cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater, Leanne?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. What did you cheat on, Leanne?
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Speaker 1: On a recruitment test. Oh.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no, that's fine. How did you do it?
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Speaker 1: Oh, it was one of those ones where they send you the links and you've got to have a time frame to complete it.
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Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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Speaker 1: So I just set up two computers and any of the answers I didn't know, I just Googled it on the other computer.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Yeah. Love it. Yeah, she's found her way around the system. And you know what? That's what employers want. They want people who will think outside the box.
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Speaker 3: It shows initiative.
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Speaker 2: Did you get the job?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I think they kind of wondered when I got 100% that it wasn't quite true.
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Speaker 2: Leanne, you could have got one or two wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to. It's that competitive streak.
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 3: I get it.
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Speaker 2: I get it. Thanks, Leanne.
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Speaker 3: I so get it.
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Speaker 2: Anonymous is here. Hi, Anonymous.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Anonymous.
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Speaker 4: Kia ora.
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Speaker 3: How's it going?
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Speaker 2: Must be bad if you want to be anonymous, Anonymous.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I've just in my head about it, but, you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: What did you cheat on, Anonymous?
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Speaker 5: So you had to sit literacy and numeracy, pretty basic, by the way, test to be a primary school teacher.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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Speaker 5: And you had to do it sort of on like a Zoom call situation so they could actually see your face and see you writing down the answers.
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Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So I was pretty in my head about the numeracy, even though it's pretty basic. So I thought, cool, I'll smash out literacy first, feel good about myself, then I'll do numeracy.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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Speaker 5: They say we've got an hour.
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Speaker 4: Sweet as.
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Speaker 5: I spend the whole hour on the literacy. Then at 10 to the mark, they're like, cool, all right. So like when you're done, both papers, da, da, da, da. And then I just full freak out panic. I did not spend any time on the numeracy.
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Speaker 1: And this is.
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Speaker 5: Like 10 basic, like year four type questions in math.
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Speaker 3: I would have struggled.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't do it. I froze up. So because the Zoom, they could see me, I had to be real social at like getting out my calculator on my phone under the desk and then writing. I couldn't even answer like 10 times 4.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't do it.
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Speaker 2: Do it now, 10 times 4.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: Far out.
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Speaker 2: You got it, Amy.
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Speaker 3: Did you get the job?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, mate, I've just come back from having a day at relief at a primary school.
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Speaker 3: Nah, I think I'm all for that, Anonymous. I mean, you could do it. You just froze up.
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Speaker 2: That's Anonymous teaching the next generation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I know, I know. You guys are in safe hands.
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Speaker 2: Amy's here. Hi, Amy.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Amy.
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Speaker 1: Hiya.
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Speaker 2: You a cheater, Amy? I am.
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Speaker 4: That was a long time ago.
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Speaker 3: What did you cheat on?
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Speaker 4: It was a double cheat. So I hated giving speeches in high school. And so my best friend, who wrote an award-winning speech, read it out to me over the phone, which is how long ago it was. So I wrote down her entire speech, word for word, and then I wrote it out on teeny tiny cue cards. And then I wrote a second set of cue cards that just had a few words on them. So I got up in front of the class, read out the whole speech, put the cards back in my pocket. And then the teacher asked to see my cue card, so I gave him the fake set that only had a few words on.
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Speaker 2: Double cheat. Double cheat. What a genius.
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Speaker 3: And you're like, well, I remembered most of it by memory.
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Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, I was like, oh, I was just really nervous, so I just was looking down and, you know, really faster than I would normally.
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Speaker 2: Again, they say cheaters never prosper, but Amy sounds pretty prosperous.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't she?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I 100% would do it again. I think that's what I'd say. And my best friend is still my best friend 28 years later.
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Speaker 2: Amy regrets nothing.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Amy.
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Speaker 2: She regrets nothing at all. Good on you, mate. We asked you guys, did you cheat? Someone texted in and they said, obviously the classic move is to make yourself the banker in Monopoly, slip yourself some more money. Yeah, but people know that.
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Speaker 3: My sister was always the banker. She's still always the banker. And we all know that she's cheating and no one says anything.
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Speaker 2: Because she'll throw a wobbly.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Someone texted her and they said, my brother and I, used to play 500 with my nana and granddad who were really, really good and we had our own little signals to show what cards we had to each other so that we could trump them and we would always win.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're defrauding the elderly. Poor nana and granddad. It was their special thing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, give it to them.
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Speaker 2: In English, I would always get excellence in my reading reports, and all my friends started asking me to do theirs, but I never actually read any of the books. I just based my reports on the movies and talked about the main things that surely happened in the book as well.
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Speaker 3: That's so good. Yeah, I never read To Kill a Mockingbird. I watched the movie, though.
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Speaker 2: I never read Wuthering Heights. I listened to the tape.
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Speaker 3: You got the gist.
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Speaker 2: Listened to the CD.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Someone else said, See?
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Speaker 2: They regret nothing, that person.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got away with it.
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Speaker 2: They learned no lesson.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they learned the lesson of sometimes you get away with things.
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Speaker 2: My bestie and I cheated on an arts portfolio in university as we were in opposite semesters. Same tutor, same work. Mine got a C. She got an A. I knew that tutor didn't like me.
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Speaker 3: What the hell?
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Speaker 2: What the hell? You can't argue it though, can you? Because you cheated.
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Speaker 3: Nah, you can't say anything. Play ZM's Brie and Clint on Insta, Facebook, TikTok and live weekdays from 3 on ZM.
Speaker 1: Show requested.
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Speaker 2: So here it is. As long as you've got da-da-dada.
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Speaker 3: It's ZM's Brian Clint Podcast. I saw this crazy story that's resurfered, resurfered, resurfaced, sorry, from a few years ago about a law student who has cheated in a test.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: There's some professions, I mean, you shouldn't cheat anyway. There's some professions you don't want people to have cheated in. Law is one of them. If I'm facing jail time, I don't want my lawyer to be a cheater.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Unless they're going to cheat the system for me.
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Speaker 3: Which, I mean, that could work out.
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Speaker 2: And surgeon.
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Speaker 3: But you kind of want them to know what they can and can't do when it comes to the law.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a cell with them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He was studying criminal procedural law, which I would imagine is incredibly hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And going into a test, he decided that instead of studying, he was going to scratch the entire syllabus... into 11 different pens.
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Speaker 2: I've seen this. He scratched it on those clear Bic pens. Yes. It looks like hieroglyphics.
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Speaker 3: It's the tiniest writing. It's microscopic. Yeah. Like handwritten notes across the plastic barrels.
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Speaker 2: It's like when you go to Asia and they write your name on a grain of rice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But smaller.
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Speaker 3: And apparently, according to reports, it was the entire syllabus that he painstakingly like scratched into every plastic barrel of those pens.
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Speaker 2: It's so much effort and it's so much work that I don't understand why he didn't just Study.
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Speaker 3: That's what people have said. They're like, if you put this much work into studying.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But maybe he was the type of person where he was like, I just know myself. I'm never going to be able to retain this much information. At least he shows he's got commitment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But there's an argument there that you're studying the wrong thing. You know that the job's not for you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but everyone learns different. I'm so for the different learners.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of us have to scratch the whole syllabus into 10 big pens. You're right. You know what? Shame on me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, shame on you, Clint.
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Speaker 2: Shame on me.
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Speaker 3: Everyone learns differently. It has popped up again because the professor who confiscated the pens during the exam found them in his drawer and was like, look at this relic.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I see. Because he confiscated the pens and threw them in the drawer.
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Speaker 3: And he didn't want to throw them out because he thought it was so impressive.
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Speaker 2: It's so impressive.
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Speaker 3: He was like, I don't want to throw these out because it's kind of impressive.
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Speaker 2: Which it is. I wonder what happened to that guy. Because he's kind of a genius. Like he's obviously a moron, but also kind of a genius.
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Speaker 1: Like.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, his brain just works differently.
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Speaker 2: The skill required to etch all of that information onto the pens. You guys can't see them. I'm trying to explain it to you. You know like those Egyptian hieroglyphic tablets?
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Speaker 3: It's so tiny. Like think of a– what do you guys call a biro?
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Speaker 2: A pen.
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Speaker 1: A pen.
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Speaker 3: Like a pen, like in that plastic-like covering.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And the writing has to be so tiny where at first glance you wouldn't be able to tell– But then obviously how close did he have to look to read it?
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Speaker 2: No, the dead giveaway was why have you got 10 pins?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is a bit of a dead giveaway.
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Speaker 2: You take one pin and one backup pin, don't you? I don't know. It's been a long time since I've done an exam.
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Speaker 3: God, I hated exams. Oh, I hated them.
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Speaker 2: Did you?
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Speaker 3: I was so bad at them. I'd always finish early and then I'd second guess myself.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'd be like, why am I finishing so much earlier than everyone else? I would just sit there.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave.
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Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, oh, no.
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Speaker 2: That's too much of a statement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: And one time, one time it's because I'd missed a whole section of the test. And I was like, oh, no, I'm screwed.
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Speaker 2: We want to talk to cheaters this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: People who are willing to admit that they cheated at something and tell us how they did it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be anything, literally anything. It could be a board game and it could have been like a hack that you had. I remember back in the day when we would play Uno at our family batch.
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Speaker 1: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno.
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Speaker 3: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno.
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Speaker 3: Uno.
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Speaker 1: Uno.
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Speaker 3: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno.
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Speaker 4: Uno.
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Speaker 2: Uno. The card game.
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Speaker 3: Potato, potato.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it Uno, like numero uno?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I've always called it Uno.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: And I would, before we would play.
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Speaker 2: Uno dos tres.
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Speaker 3: Uno, uno, uno, dos, tres, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know? You know.
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Speaker 3: Why am I calling it you know then? Anyway, I would hide before we were playing the game. I would go to the kitchen table where we would play and I would hide cards up in the, like, joinery.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 3: Underneath the table.
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Speaker 2: Under the table. Yeah, that's good shit.
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Speaker 3: Like a pick up four.
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Speaker 2: Like an Uno Reverso under the table. Yeah, just like a couple.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good shit. And then at any point I'd just pull them out from under the table.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: And away you go.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know.
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Speaker 3: Okay, leave it.
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Speaker 2: Drop it down. People are texting in, not you know.
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Speaker 3: So they were with me.
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Speaker 2: No, they said not you know.
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Speaker 3: No, I know it's you know.
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Speaker 2: No, not you know.
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Speaker 3: Oh, look at that person.
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Speaker 2: You know. No, no. How do you know? They're in uno.
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Speaker 1: E-W-N-O.
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Speaker 2: Someone said ew, no. Yeah, uno.
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Speaker 3: Not you, no.
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Speaker 2: Bree, you are saying it correct for us Aussies. No, that doesn't make it correct.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: No, that doesn't make it. I feel good.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that person texting in. I appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: We asked you guys, have you cheated and how did you do it? Leanne's here. Hi, Leanne.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Leanne. Hi.
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Speaker 2: Are you a big, fat, cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater, Leanne?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. What did you cheat on, Leanne?
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Speaker 1: On a recruitment test. Oh.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no, that's fine. How did you do it?
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Speaker 1: Oh, it was one of those ones where they send you the links and you've got to have a time frame to complete it.
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Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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Speaker 1: So I just set up two computers and any of the answers I didn't know, I just Googled it on the other computer.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Yeah. Love it. Yeah, she's found her way around the system. And you know what? That's what employers want. They want people who will think outside the box.
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Speaker 3: It shows initiative.
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Speaker 2: Did you get the job?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I think they kind of wondered when I got 100% that it wasn't quite true.
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Speaker 2: Leanne, you could have got one or two wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to. It's that competitive streak.
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 3: I get it.
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Speaker 2: I get it. Thanks, Leanne.
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Speaker 3: I so get it.
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Speaker 2: Anonymous is here. Hi, Anonymous.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Anonymous.
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Speaker 4: Kia ora.
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Speaker 3: How's it going?
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Speaker 2: Must be bad if you want to be anonymous, Anonymous.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I've just in my head about it, but, you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: What did you cheat on, Anonymous?
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Speaker 5: So you had to sit literacy and numeracy, pretty basic, by the way, test to be a primary school teacher.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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Speaker 5: And you had to do it sort of on like a Zoom call situation so they could actually see your face and see you writing down the answers.
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Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So I was pretty in my head about the numeracy, even though it's pretty basic. So I thought, cool, I'll smash out literacy first, feel good about myself, then I'll do numeracy.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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Speaker 5: They say we've got an hour.
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Speaker 4: Sweet as.
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Speaker 5: I spend the whole hour on the literacy. Then at 10 to the mark, they're like, cool, all right. So like when you're done, both papers, da, da, da, da. And then I just full freak out panic. I did not spend any time on the numeracy.
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Speaker 1: And this is.
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Speaker 5: Like 10 basic, like year four type questions in math.
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Speaker 3: I would have struggled.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't do it. I froze up. So because the Zoom, they could see me, I had to be real social at like getting out my calculator on my phone under the desk and then writing. I couldn't even answer like 10 times 4.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't do it.
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Speaker 2: Do it now, 10 times 4.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: Far out.
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Speaker 2: You got it, Amy.
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Speaker 3: Did you get the job?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, mate, I've just come back from having a day at relief at a primary school.
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Speaker 3: Nah, I think I'm all for that, Anonymous. I mean, you could do it. You just froze up.
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Speaker 2: That's Anonymous teaching the next generation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I know, I know. You guys are in safe hands.
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Speaker 2: Amy's here. Hi, Amy.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Amy.
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Speaker 1: Hiya.
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Speaker 2: You a cheater, Amy? I am.
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Speaker 4: That was a long time ago.
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Speaker 3: What did you cheat on?
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Speaker 4: It was a double cheat. So I hated giving speeches in high school. And so my best friend, who wrote an award-winning speech, read it out to me over the phone, which is how long ago it was. So I wrote down her entire speech, word for word, and then I wrote it out on teeny tiny cue cards. And then I wrote a second set of cue cards that just had a few words on them. So I got up in front of the class, read out the whole speech, put the cards back in my pocket. And then the teacher asked to see my cue card, so I gave him the fake set that only had a few words on.
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Speaker 2: Double cheat. Double cheat. What a genius.
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Speaker 3: And you're like, well, I remembered most of it by memory.
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Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, I was like, oh, I was just really nervous, so I just was looking down and, you know, really faster than I would normally.
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Speaker 2: Again, they say cheaters never prosper, but Amy sounds pretty prosperous.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't she?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I 100% would do it again. I think that's what I'd say. And my best friend is still my best friend 28 years later.
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Speaker 2: Amy regrets nothing.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Amy.
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Speaker 2: She regrets nothing at all. Good on you, mate. We asked you guys, did you cheat? Someone texted in and they said, obviously the classic move is to make yourself the banker in Monopoly, slip yourself some more money. Yeah, but people know that.
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Speaker 3: My sister was always the banker. She's still always the banker. And we all know that she's cheating and no one says anything.
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Speaker 2: Because she'll throw a wobbly.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Someone texted her and they said, my brother and I, used to play 500 with my nana and granddad who were really, really good and we had our own little signals to show what cards we had to each other so that we could trump them and we would always win.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're defrauding the elderly. Poor nana and granddad. It was their special thing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, give it to them.
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Speaker 2: In English, I would always get excellence in my reading reports, and all my friends started asking me to do theirs, but I never actually read any of the books. I just based my reports on the movies and talked about the main things that surely happened in the book as well.
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Speaker 3: That's so good. Yeah, I never read To Kill a Mockingbird. I watched the movie, though.
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Speaker 2: I never read Wuthering Heights. I listened to the tape.
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Speaker 3: You got the gist.
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Speaker 2: Listened to the CD.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Someone else said, See?
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Speaker 2: They regret nothing, that person.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got away with it.
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Speaker 2: They learned no lesson.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they learned the lesson of sometimes you get away with things.
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Speaker 2: My bestie and I cheated on an arts portfolio in university as we were in opposite semesters. Same tutor, same work. Mine got a C. She got an A. I knew that tutor didn't like me.
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Speaker 3: What the hell?
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Speaker 2: What the hell? You can't argue it though, can you? Because you cheated.
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