'You're Wrong' With Mollie Hemingway and David Harsanyi, Ep. 210: Woke 1.0 Cover-Up

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Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of Do a
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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor and he's the Federalist and
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David Harsani, a senior writer at The Washington Examiner. If
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you'd like to email the show, please do so at
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radio at the Federalist dot com. Keep it under one
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thousand words, disagree.
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All emails are welcome, and I love them.
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Say fifty to fifty, I'd say fifty percent or garbage
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in the other fifties good. But I'm in a very
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cranky mood because wait, did.
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You see the one that just came in that said, David,
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you should remind Molly that she likes the movie Interstellar
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time to time? Like, why do I need a reminding
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of this? I do love that movie? And it was
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meant as some kind of insult. I'm like, yep, I
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still love it. Great movie.
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It's one of these movies and I haven't seen in
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ten years that is like a lot of hocus pocus,
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a lot of hand waving, but actually not doesn't really
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have a very deep core. Is that a fair assessment
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you think?
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I feel like that could be said about ninety nine
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percent of movies. But I thought it had some nice
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messages about love across the ages and family love.
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Do you know, and to desire for.
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Humanity to continue existing.
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You know, when you go see a movie and you
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come back and you're like that that was a pretty
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good movie. I liked that movie. Where was a great movie,
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But then when it shows up on your streaming services,
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you have a zero interest in seeing it. I'll tell
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you a movie like that, Hail Mary, and which tells
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me that maybe it wasn't as good a movie as
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I initially thought. Maybe that movie had a lot of
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hand waving as well.
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I actually didn't like the movie when I saw it,
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and then almost immediately, like two days later, I was like, yeah,
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it was okay, it was okay. So I think it
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was long, unnecessarily long, and speaking of movies without too
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much depth, I think that would be a good example
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of that.
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I thought the Martian was better, right? What was that
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Martian was better? Same?
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I haven't seen that. I'm sorry, my kids and husband
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have been.
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I remember neither of us thought it was as good
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as advertised, Like, we liked it okay, but I like
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that ending was so stupid, having to wrap everything up
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in that way. Anyway. I don't know how he got
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on this. I was about to tell ya cranky I
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am because I haven't slept, and we talked about this
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for a little bit before. But when I have something
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to do or travel, even though I am honestly I've
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done this for twenty five years or whatever, I'm not
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really like nervous about things like that. But for some reason,
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I'm anxious enough that I can't sleep and I'll go
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days without sleeping. And you told me this happens too,
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which is crazy because you're like traveling all the time
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and doing events.
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I do want to go off on this for a
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little bit because I remember when I was younger and
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I'd never really been on a plane. I'd been on
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maybe like one plane ride before I was fifteen, to
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New York City. It was very exciting, and I thought
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I wouldn't it be so fun to be a jet
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set traveler? And then I started having to travel a
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lot and I did not like it. I mean, I
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just don't like being away from my kids, my husband,
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my home. I have so much stuff that needs to
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be done at home, and I legitimately do not remember
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the last time I was home for a whole week
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without people being here or you know, something like that.
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As I began traveling more, I became more sensitive to
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those privileges you get with greater travel, like if you
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fly one airline, you move up the ranks of their
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membership awards thing. And I think it was a couple
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of years ago I had traveled so much that I
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could barely take it, and I was not at the
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highest level, and the distance it would have taken me
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to get to that highest level was unfathomable, and I thought, oh, oh,
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that's those people live bad lives. Like when they go
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one K, customers come to the front of the line,
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that's the reward they get for having no lives because
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they're just constantly on the road. And I will be
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hitting one K this year, and I hope, I mean,
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I'm like almost there, and I'm so sad about it,
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and I'm hoping that next year I lose all of
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it and go back down to the very bottom level
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of the United Rewards program because it's horrible. But yes,
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if you're getting up early and sometimes and I do
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a lot of my travel by train too, So I
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had to go up to New York this week, or
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I got to go to up to New York this
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week because some of the shows that we do at
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Fox are in New York, so you have to go
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up a couple times a month. And I didn't want
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to be there the night before, even though there's a
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convenience to that, because my husband had been gone his
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mother unfortunately just died, and he was coming home on
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Sunday night, and I just wanted to see him for
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a little bit, so I didn't go up on Sunday night.
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So I had to get up at five am on
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Monday morning, and that meant that I basically didn't sleep
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because that's not a normal hour for me to get up,
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and I'm paranoid about missing my train, so I had
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to get up really early, and then I get on
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the train. I get up there. It's an uneventful thing.
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This is really probably very silly to even mention all this,
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but I realized also recently that trains make me feel
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a bit nauseated, and I try to avoid them. So
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I do try to fly up there and back if
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I'm able to, and it's usually cheaper and for me
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more convenient. But I take the train up. It's fine,
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but I was taking the plane back, so I get
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to Newark Airport, which has legendarily been having some troubles
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last these last couple of years. But I've been okay
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on that commuter flight to Reagan, but this one there
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are delays, and then there are more delays, and then
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there's delays, and then there's a ground stop at Reagan.
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And I had a feeling like you get when you
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travel as much as I do. This is I'm not
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getting out of this airport on this plane, and I
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start making plans to figure out another way home, like
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rent a car, because all the other flights I tried
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to change it to were either full or getting canceled.
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So I'm like, this, this plane's getting canceled. I even
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talked to the pilot. I was like, is this plane
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getting canceled? He's like, I can't possibly tell you. You know
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what's going to happen, So I knew it was probably
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going to get canceled. The train station that connects to
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the airport is not the one that has the high
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speed trains, and the high speed trains really do work
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better for people who get nauseated on trains, you know.
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So get the train ticket, but then I have to
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take a taxi to get to that other train station,
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Newark penn Station, and I'm just sprinting. My driver is
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explaining to me that it's a very dangerous train station
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and I shouldn't stop and people will try to rob
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me or whatever. And I make it with a few
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minutes despair onto the Acella and I make it home.
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And as I sit down in my seat on the Acella,
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I was like, at least it's Friday. You know, it's Friday. Tomorrow,
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I'll get some relaxation. And then I realized, oh, it's not.
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Not only is it not Friday, it's the opposite. It's Monday. Anyway,
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I got home. It's good. Sorry that was a release.
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No, we should we should rename the show Cranky first Worlders.
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We uh, we have first world problems. But I don't know.
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I just I hate airports so much. I'm just quickly
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say I'm going to Nashville, right, And I'm like, oh,
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maybe I could drive there in Virginia Nashville, Tennessee. You
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got to be ten hours though, so I can't do that.
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I would rather drive to New York and take a
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plane to New York. Being in Lagardia, Kennedy, Nework, those
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are just awful places, so difficult. Anyway, this is.
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End of show type quality material here, but I do
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want to say that I was explaining I'd talked before
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on the show about how I changed the way I've
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been eating, and I'm trying to continue with that, and
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I was I actually just weighed myself. I was like,
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I have been eating very much more than I should
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be for a few weeks. I bet I gained some weight. Nope,
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still aw some weight. Like I don't know what's happening,
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but maybe maybe I'm look sick.
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No, you haven't. You need a step counter on your phone.
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The airports, you're probably walking like ten thousand steps.
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But airport food is the worst. I mean, it really
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is high calorie, low quality. And the Newark Airport has
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a little food court area with some really fancy places
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like a burger place and a Ramen place and a
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sushi place, and they're actually kind of nice. But they
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have in the middle of it a salad buffet like
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an old school pizza hut. Salad you know thing, and
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you pay it's something exorbitant, like sixteen dollars per pound
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of salad. So I get a little thing. I put
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in a few little low carb, high protein things and
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I weigh it and it'll always be like seven dollars,
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which is so much less than the normal airport fare.
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And I was telling my husband about this. He was like,
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hold up, you're doing a salad bar at the Newark Airport, Like,
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how have you not gotten sick?
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Isn't there some outbreak of salad there? Something I can't
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believe they're doing that. Yeah, salmonella and not salmonel something else. Yeah,
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I hate airports. COVID broke me. After COVID, I was like,
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I just I can't do it anymore.
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So you mentioned Nashville, and I just want to say
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one other thing, which is I will be performing as
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a backup singer.
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Oh again, nice.
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On Saturday at the Opry and everyone should come. And
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if you do, come meet the Wagoneers, the band that
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I will be doing back up with, at the Flagpole afterwards.
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Nice that it was a great show.
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You can reach.
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Oh.
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I just looked and the oak Ridge Boys are going
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to be.
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On Gosh, they must be they must be ancient.
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I know the song though you think people are ancient,
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then you meet them and you're like, they don't actually
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seem that much older than me, and then you realize
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that when you were listening to them in the eighties,
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they really were only like ten years older.
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Than you or five sometimes. Yeah, I hate that. I
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hate that. All right, let's talk about news. I don't
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I think that's why most people are here. No, it's okay,
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you know, it's a free, willing show. But let's talk
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about the news that a lot of people in the
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conservative world are talking about. And actually I've seen liberals
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talking about it as well. Is Alexandria Ocassio Cortez AOC,
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if I may, for brevity's sake, was on ABC News
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with Jonathan carl who, in my view has this patina
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of professionalism, but is one of the most you know,
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obsequious people towards libs. It just is. Anyway, He asked
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AOC about Francesca Hang I think is her name, the
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socialist Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate, and some of her emails about
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getting rid of the cops, defunding police, shuddering prisons, things
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like that, and AOC has this canned answer, my view,
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it was a canned answer. And she talks about this
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New York City council person she knows who describes Woke
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One as crazy and then she laughs it off. I
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think there's a lot to mine here because she's obviously
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I think she was asked if she would run for
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the presidency and she didn't say she wouldn't she might
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be running for the Senate. She could be run for
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the presidency. Actually probably think that she would do better,
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or maybe the most conservatives think she would do I
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don't know what your feelings are on that, but I
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remember Woke One as a high tech, cultural authoritarian, cultural
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revolutionary moment where people use intimidation and public shaming and
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economic ruin right to dictate words and ideas that were
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permissible in the public square. It had been for years
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earlier on the left that your words can be violence,
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but now it was even silence was violence. I don't
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know if you had this happen to you, but I had,
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like my lawn care people sending me emails. On the
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bottom it would say like we are we support Black
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Lives matter, Like everyone was nervous that they would be
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called out by some deranged twenty two year old with
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rainbow hair accusing them of harboring like counter revolutionary sympathies
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are something. It was terrible but it was also about policy, right,
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I don't well, anyway, let's talk about it. So by
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the way she came up in Woke. She was a
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leading character in Woke one And can a person just
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simply dismiss this thing that they participated in, that they
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argued for so easily, and we should be allowed to
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do it? And what do you think about this whole thing?
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I actually have some questions on this. When AOC said
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woke one point oh was crazy, a lot of people
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seemed to know what she meant by that, and I
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hadn't heard it put this way.
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So for me, the woke or the one one point
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oh well insinuate strongly that there's a walk point two
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right well, or at.
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Least who knows what phase we're in right now? I
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would like to know more about how they perceive things.
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I remember, again, being younger, people started talking about political correctness.
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There was that movie Politically Correct, you know, all these things.
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I went to college at a time of political correctness.
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To me, that was every bit the Marxist wokeism of
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later iterations of it. So what is woke one point oh?
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I guess is my question? Is wol one point oh
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just their way of saying, there were things we said
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that we don't want to be held accountable for now,
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so we're going to cluster them all as a thing
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that we can dismiss together. What is there? I don't
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understand what they're saying with it.
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Yeah, that's one of the things I want to know.
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What is she talking about? What was woke? One? Because
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after a while, woke just became this term for hard
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left ideas, and she was a gung her host supporter
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of virtually every ideological element that was going on at
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the time. So does AOC still support the EI initiatives
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and racial quotas? Is that part of woke? Does she
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support Black Lives matters and the marches and the in
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the in the riots that happened, does she does she
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think that was right? Like, there's no specifics here.
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I have a little bit of a tangent. But I
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was seeing that the New York Times had a clean
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up piece on their Senate candidate for Michigan, who we
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talked about last week, Alsaia, who has a lot of
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terrorists ties campaigns with terrorist supporters like Hassan Piker, anti
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open anti Semites like Hassan Piker, just hateful anti American
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people like Hassan Piker and the New York Times had
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this piece, you know, just kind of laundering him. He's
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doing some of the same thing. He regrets some of
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what he said in the past. We're just going to
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move along. And it struck me how good left wing
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institutions like the Democratic Party or their media apparatus New
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York Times, etc. Are at just covering up all of
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the bad things and just moving on, and how horrifically
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bad the Republicans are at not even doing that, but
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just being a unified part on candidates that they might
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not have voted for but who are totally fine. And
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I think with AOC they just know Woke became a joke.
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They're trying to move past it while not changing any
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of their ideas. So if you're Jonathan Carl, a left
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wing reporter for left wing media outlet, and you've got
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AOC on and she says Woke one point zero was crazy,
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wouldn't you if you were in that position, wouldn't you say? Okay?
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So tell me specifically, have you renounced your position on
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defunding the police and what's your new position, or have
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you renounced the racist hiring practices of DEI And what's
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your new position? You know what I mean? Like, just
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get some specifics.
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Yeah, what does it mean?
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It's going to cause her problems with the socialist flank
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that she came up with, or it's going to cause
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problems for her presidential campaign. But that's why Jonathan Carl
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doesn't do it. He doesn't want to cause her problems.
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He wants to help her and his party have power again.
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But let's take her at her Let's take her at
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her comment and think about it for a second. If
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this is true, it means that you were swept up
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in a mass social hysteria, so much so that you
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have such little your principles are so weak, and your
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belief system is so weak that not only were you
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swept up in it, but you champion most of the
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things that you now say are crazy. That tells us.
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That is disqualifying for political leadership.
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Like here's what she says during lockdown. Of course, rhetoric
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in that time is not rhetoric that we would use today. Why,
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how you comport yourself in a crisis tells us most
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of what we need to know about you. So now
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we know that next time there's a crisis, You're going
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to go back to being crazy. That's the first possibility.
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The second possibility is she's running for president and she
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realizes that Americans hate wokeness in general, and she wouldn't
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be the first politician to walk away from things she said,
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But she's literally walking away from an entire set of
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ideas that she now gets to in one sentence, called crazy.
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I didn't know this, but I was researching this story
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after twenty twenty four election day, when Democrats took it
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on the chin. Four days after she removed her she
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her pronouns from her social media accounts. That does not
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scream authenticity to me. It tells me that you actually
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think those are fine ideas, but they're not working for you,
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like another thing you were mentioning. Does she reject and
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pronouns and binary pronouns and general affirming care and how
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about letting biological boys playing girls' sports? Is that part
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of woke? Does she reject that, I don't really know
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what woke is.
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Having said that, I agree with you actually that she
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would be a very good candidate, And I've even heard
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people say win or lose, it would be good to
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just get this stuff out there in the open and
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have a fight about it. I know she's mocked as
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being stupid, and she certainly did herself no favors at
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the Munich Security Conference when she fumbled all of the
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national security questions. But she seems ambitious and driven and
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someone who studies, and she has a media that will
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help cover up all of her problems, and so she
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I think could have a shot at it. I mean,
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she might crash and burn. I don't know, but I
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wouldn't necessarily count her out.
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I totally agree people underestimate her appeal. I think she
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does have a certain level of charisma. She is not
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as she's more likable to independence, I think than conservatives
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would think. I don't think she's dumb. I just think
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she doesn't know things. She's kind of an ignoramus. You
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say she studies, I don't know about that. I've never
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seen an interview with her where she provided any kind
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of professional level expertise on any anything. Really, but I
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don't think you need that. I mean, do you see
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the people we're sending to Washington constantly? I think having
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charisma speaking towards grievances of people and speaking about the
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things they want to hear can work. I don't think actually,
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I don't want to make it. Don't make predictions anymore.
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The presidency seems like a heavy lift for me, simply
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because there are just too many states. It depends who
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she runs against, of course, but there are just too
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many states where I don't think that flies with most people.
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But I don't know.
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Interesting she's not counting out the presidency so she can
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go in campaign at a more national level, when really
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what she wants to do is unseat Chuck Schumer.
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That's what I feel like is happening. But I have
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no insider information. She can become a senator, she can
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win New York in my view, again, depending on who
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she runs against. But anyway, I want to say another thing.
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I think she's very good at dominating media coverage and
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getting people talking about her.
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Do you think she that's planned or she just has
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kind of an innate way of saying things that get
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people all riled up. I don't know. Sometimes I wonder
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if she's this genius or I think.
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People underestimate the innate skill that some people have and
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they put it as somehow at odds with a certain
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level of intelligence, like people like, well, Donald Trump sure
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can get people worked up. Yes, and it's it's a
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skill that a lot of people would love to have.
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And he's very mindful about what he's doing. And it
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seems crazy to people who get whipped up in the frenzy,
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but not, you know, it's not. And I think that's
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the same thing with her. She's okay with everybody talking
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about her, good or bad. And that's also another important thing.
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A lot of people just so desperately want to be
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liked that they are careful about what they say, and
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they just freak out about people speaking against them. Remember that,
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Amanda Milius.
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The director's daughter.
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Yeah, thank you, Amanda Milius. So she said that her
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dad said that if you have the capacity to walk
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in a room and be hated by everyone in there
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and like not freak out about it, that is a superpower.
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I when I heard her say that, I was like,
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I want billion percent get that. I don't know why.
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I don't know how this happened exactly. I'm pretty sure
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it's because of being raised as a confessional Lutheran in
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a world without a lot of people sharing that viewpoint,
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or in hostile settings. But I'm just very very and
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then I had libertarian tendencies, so help me for a while.
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I'm just so used to being the person who nobody
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agrees with and it's never bothered me.
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I feel the same, I want to.
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I don't seek out hatred or anything. I just I'm
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okay with people being that way. Sorry, go on.
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Sometimes that you know, the whole the word libertarian kind
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of annoys me. Not that you annoyed me just now,
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but I understand what you meant by libertarian small l
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probably libertarian tendencies, and I think those tendencies are comport
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well with the American ideals. I'm not saying all the
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things that libertarians believe are are good, because I don't
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think that's true. But anyway, I want to ask you this,
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and this is a politically incorrect question. Yes, there are
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candidates now that are very popular, at least among Democrats.
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We just mentioned Lsay, we mentioned AOC. Do you think
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there's a kind of cultural aesthetic that makes them popular
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in the sense that if AOC was an old white
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dude and was kind of an you know, airhead, and
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white dudes can be airheads like anyone else, and was
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just trafficking in this kind of socialistic stuff. Is anyone
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paying attention? Are they in Congress? Do they have presidential aspirations?
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If else? Is there an exotic element to Lsied for
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socialists because he's you know, he's a Muslim, that wouldn't
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be there otherwise. I feel like that's part of it
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for a lot of the progressives. I don't know for sure,
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it just feels like it.
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Yeah, clearly there's something there, and it will only become
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more so. I was I was on the couch at
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Fox News on Outnumbered with John Yu and we were
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talking about Francesca Hong, and he said something about like,
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isn't it a great country that her parents can immigrate
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here and she can become this progressive socialist. But then also,
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my parents immigrated here and they raised me, and I'm
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a conservative law professor at Berkeley, And I was like, no,
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I don't think that's good. Like I love a John Yu,
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don't get me wrong, very wonderful mind and someone who
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I've learned quite a bit from. But I don't love
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that we are importing so much on americanness into our
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culture and that it's becoming the dominant thing for younger people.
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So it's not just that we've lost a lot of
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American identity in terms of our founding principles, founding people,
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but we have also made all of our educational establishment
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be built around hating those things, hating literally hating white people.
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Branch Eska Hank talking about how horrified she is that
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she procreated with a white man to have a white kid,
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and how she's proximate to whiteness. You know, is these
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are very hateful, racist ideologies that have been inculcated into
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people basically our age and younger, and a lot of
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the boomers have like some guilt associated with it too,
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in a way that has made people seek out the
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wrong things and their candidates. So it's un Americanism, influencer culture,
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hatred of all the good, love of all the bad,
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and the louder you are about it, the more committed
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you seem to be to it, the more attractive that
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is to a certain wing of the country. And it
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might be, and I mean, it seems like it's a
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popular enough issue that it's an existential threat to us.
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So thank you for black colony right now.
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If you want to save America, you gotta win Pennsylvania.
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That's what Matt Breet explains in his new book, You
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Pennsylvania is the fifth largest state and biggest swing state
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in the nation, and as Pennsylvania goes, so goes the nation.
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Progressive billionaires and millionaires understand that if you capture this
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important state, you can control the country. But Matt gives
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an inside look at what entrepreneurs are doing to counter
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I wrote a commn about this. If I'm repeating myself
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from last week, I'm sorry, but Al Sayid especially I
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wrote a column just going through his life. Going through
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his biography, I think Al Sayid is a tragedy, not
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anything to celebrate as an immigrant, for instance, Like he
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was born into a really affluent you know, he lived
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in an affluent suburb. He grew up in a high
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school that or he graduated at high school, ninety nine
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percent of his classmates all went to college. Right, he
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went to the universe. He went to the University of Michigan,
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which was co founded by a Catholic priest and a
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Presbyterian minister. Okay, then he went to he got a
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Rhodes Scholarship, which was is named after Cecil Rhodes, a
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champion of the British Empire. You know what college you
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went to. It's called Oriel College, quote, the College of
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the Blessed Virgin Mary. Every step of his success and
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the guy is prodigious. He has a prodigious intellect, Like
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he's super smartiest two medical degrees, but every step of
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the way was built on you know where he grew
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up as an American work ethic of Near Detroit, capitalistic imagination,
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Christian ethics, and you know, societal norms and liberal freedoms
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and all that. He has won the generational lottery. He's
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the one of the luckiest people has ever walked on Earth,
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and what does he do. He wants to tear it
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all down. He's a Third World Marxist, That's what he is.
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It's a choice, has nothing to do with his color.
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And the idea that l said is being that people
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who don't like what he's talking about are racists is
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a preposterous claim. He has a very distinct ideology. And
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I've said this many times. I think Republicans would love
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to have more diverse candidates. I know they would never
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say that out loud, but I think they want they
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want that. But El said is an anti Semite and
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he is a bigot. Do you see the recent thing
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that they turned up? He wrote a past I think
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he talked about it as well, calling football the manifestation
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of toxic masculinity and just all this left wing gibberish.
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Like I just don't understand how someone from Michigan who
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thinks football is bad could go to the Senate.
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Who has like multiple homes and where he has all
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these homes in Cutter but he thinks MacNaught Island is.
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Too hot.
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That's a good that's a good trait for someone who
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wants to.
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What's a guy's name Rogers. What's his first name? Who's
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running against Mike Mike Rogers. He keeps telling him to
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go back to Florida because he has a house in Florida. Dude,
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you have a house in Dubai and a house in India.
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I think, what are you talking about?
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But it's a good way to get people not talking
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about those things.
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Maybe if he wins, by the way, I think I
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have to say to myself, we're in big trouble as
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a country.
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Like care for that? Okay? I think Mike Rogers could
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win if Trump were on the ballot. I know he
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hates Trump, probably, but if Trump were on the ballot,
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getting the Republicans in Michigan out to vote, I do
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think Mike Rodgers would win. And I know Republicans were
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celebrating when it was say Elsaiad winning that. But he's charismatic.
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Mike Rogers is very much beloved in Washington, DC, mostly
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for his support of wars and things like that. That's
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not going to be a message that's going to resonate
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with Michigan voters. I don't think so. Maybe I'll look
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like a fool and he's going to beat him by
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ten points, But I would be worried if if I
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were the GOP.
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I don't know enough about this to talk about their
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personalities and that dynamic, but I don't care. If a
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person supports wars, he still is pro American if he's
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on our side. If there's a war going on and
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the person wants America to be embarrassed and lose, like
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I'm sure Elsa he does. Who's who can't say anything
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bad about Kamani when he was killed because he might
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upset his most big his biggest fans and constituents. That's
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still a huge problem for America. I don't care. It's
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like Susan Collins. She does a lot of things I
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don't like, but if she's losing to someone with a
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Nazi tattoo, that says something's wrong in America.
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Yes, very much agree.
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We disagree on when we should be fighting wars and
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things like that, but that's well within the traditional American debate.
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Whereas Marxism, even though I have to say l said
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in many ways, is less radical probably than Hang or others,
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at least publicly on his economics. Though he's a very
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far left winger, he to me seems a little more
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Islamic than say, Mom Donnie. He's a little more in
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tune with that kind of anti americanism. I'm talking about
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Islamist in a political sense than Mam Donni, for instance,
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who seems more class oriented socialists. So both are bad.
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How do we get here?
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So that was one of the things we were talking about,
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how good AOC is at drawing attention to herself. And
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she did this thing this weekend that just lit the
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internet on fire, where she did a TikTok of herself
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injecting herself with something so that she said was part
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of her regimen for harvesting her own eggs so that
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she might be able to have children someday. And immediately
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people started talking about it. And I just want to
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say to anybody who is of this age or who
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has daughters of this age, do not think that harvesting
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your eggs is a good approach to dealing with your fertility.
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It's a horrible idea, and people need to stand up
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and say it's a horrible idea and start helping women
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who are still in child bearing frames of time to
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not make this decision. It's a total con of the
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fertility industrial complex and also of employed lawyers who would
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love to take this period of time of women's lives
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and leave them barren, to say, oh, we'll pay for
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your we'll pay for harvesting your eggs, and then when
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you're fifty and you want to have kids, easy peasy,
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you will just either have a surrogate take those eggs,
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or you will we'll imp implant the fertilized egg in you,
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and then you'll have babies, and you'll have everything you
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dreamed of, and you won't have to give up all
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of your career aspirations. It is such a lie, in
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part because the success rates of these operations is not
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what they are promised to women. But also there's no
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reason for aoc to be doing this right now. I
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think she's been engaged for like five, ten or fifteen
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years to the same man. She's already found her man.
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She's thirty six, I believe, already facing a closing window
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of opportunity to have one kid, much less than three
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or four that she might want to have, because ladies
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and mothers tell your daughters this a lot of times
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when are stupid and they think, oh, I can have
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a kid by I knew someone who had a kid
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when she was forty two, So I haven't tell him
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forty two to get to have a kid. Multiple problems
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with this one. The vast majority of women start having
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trouble conceiving and bearing children at age thirty five, okay,
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and really it's a downward trajectory from even like earlier thirties.
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And then secondly, having a kid is different than having
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as many kids as you would like, And studies show
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that women routinely say they wish they had more children
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than they were able to have. And the time at
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which you start having kids is the biggest factor there
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for how many kids you're going to have, right, So
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encourage women to prioritize family life and men. By the way,
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I'm saying women because we are the ones who conceive
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in bear children, but men are obviously an integral part
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of this. And who your partner is, your husband is,
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will have a lot to do with how support you
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feel on this. But the number. It is true that
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the people who don't care about having children seem to
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journey toward being a senator and then staying in the
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Senate until they're ninety. That is true, But that's a
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and so maybe that's all she cares about. That's all
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she's gonna go for. But the vast majority of people
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will tell you that the greatest source of their happiness
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is their spouse and their children, not their jobs, even
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when they have jobs they like and we need as
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a culture and as family members, AOC's mom needs to
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be like, listen, baby girl, you gotta prioritize this. We
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can't always have everything at exactly the time we want.
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You've already found your husband. You should stop being engaged
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to him and start being married to him. And I
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know that they're probably genuinely married. They're just pretending not
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to be so that they can hide his finances. I
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get that, but I'm not saying I support that. I'm
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just saying that seems to be the case. Don't do
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long engagements, just get married, have your kids, figure out
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the career stuff later. Everyone. Trust me, you'll be happier,
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you know, if you've found you know. I'm not saying
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have kids if you're not married, but if you've found
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a good man who will be a good husband, marry
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him and get with the baby making. That's like the
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whole point of life. That's the fun part. The jobs
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are not the fun part am I crazy.
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No, I concur with everything you said from from my
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personal perspective. Obviously, we have a problem. We're not having
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enough kids. And the problem everyone comes up with, you know,
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it's economic this and that. But I think in its
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core and its essence, the real problem is that people
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are having kids later and then they're having fewer kids,
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and that's the problem. I just this just popped up
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in my feet. I'm just going to read you this
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just about gen Z. I think so AOC's a millennial
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probably and I'm not sure. I don't, you know, whatever,
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This is just what it is, but it has values.
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What's more important to you? So patriotism, Like seventy six
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percent of baby boomers say it's super important to them.
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Gen Z thirty two percent believe in God twenty six
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gen Z sixty five, baby boomers having children twenty three percent,
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gen Z baby boomers fifty two percent, Which is a
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weird question to ask baby boomers now because they're not
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having any more children, but they still think it's an
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important thing. For me, just getting out of the morality
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of everything. This just looked to me like she was
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signaling I'm normal just like you. I want to have
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a kid just like other women. But I'm going to
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be busy for the next ten years, so don't worry
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about me getting pregnant when I'm a senator or when
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I'm a president. Don't you feel like it was a
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politically framed thing to do?
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Genuinely? Maybe, but I don't care. She's thirty six. My
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kids went to schools Lutheran and Roman Catholic where they
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were taught about fertility. First of all, they seem so
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much more knowledgeable, Like my daughters seem so much more
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knowledgeable about the mechanics of fertility than most secular educated women.
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They understand where they are in their cycle. I mean,
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they're nowhere near marriage at this point, but they understand
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what's happening with their bodies in a way that all
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women sho should know. Part of that is literally knowing
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what you're going through month to month, but part of
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it is understanding what your horizon is for when having
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children is the healthiest. And we believe as Lutherans that
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you just receive the children God gives you in marriage.
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You don't try to control everything. But it is also
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helpful to understand, Okay, I'm able to get pregnant now,
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and I'll probably be able to get pregnant until this phase.
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The highest chance of healthy pregnancies is during this phase.
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And just understanding those things helps you become a more
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educated woman who makes good decisions about your life and
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how you're going to help provide for your family and
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be a good be a good spouse and all that.
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And the secular realm seems to tell women, first of all,
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having children is bad, and secondly, if you want them,
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you can have them at any point you want them.
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And then we start creating, we start treating children as
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if they are a product to be acquired rather than
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as a gift from God as the natural fruit of
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marital love. And you see so many problems happening as
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a result of this, including, oh, i want a kid
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and I'm gay, so I'm going to use a surrogate,
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or I'm going to get implanted with someone who's not
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a part of our family unit's biological material, and you know,
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it's just like and then I'm going to pay someone,
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and I'm not going to think about the ethics of
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putting people's bodies into this type of you know, situation
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and what that will mean and I'm certainly not thinking
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about how this will affect my child. And for me,
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I remember the first time I began thinking deeply about
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this was meeting someone who was conceived in this way
721
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technologically with sperm that was not her father's. So she
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did have married parents, but she learned about the circumstances
723
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of her conception as a test to maybe as we
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used to put it, and then it affected her in
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how she I think she maybe wrote about this for
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us as a federalists. It affected her thinking about her purpose.
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She realized that her parents had wanted her so badly
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that they'd gone to these great lengths to get her,
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and that made her feel like she had to please
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them in a way that's different than I think for
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a lot of children who are naturally conceived. And then
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she also thought of herself in very utilitarian terms and
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about pleasing other people, and it affected her relationships with men,
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and it also made her paranoid every single time she
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was dating anyone that she might be dating a sibling.
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And I know it sounds simp like silly or something,
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but we'd never think about what it's like for the
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child who is treated as a product to be acquired
739
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rather than as the natural love of their married parents.
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And we should be thinking more about other people and
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less about like, I want this at this time, and
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I'm going to do whatever it takes to get this
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at this time. And parents, it's incumbent upon you to
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talk to your daughters and sons about healthy, ethical ways
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to approach family life too.
746
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I got a lot of pushback when I say what
747
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I did a few minutes ago about why we're not
748
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having as many kids. But biology doesn't paraphrase someone. Biology
749
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doesn't care about your feelings at all. It doesn't honestly
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like you. It's not about equal rights or having the
751
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same life. It is what it is. Men cannot have
752
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children and women can only have children until a certain age.
753
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That's how life works.
754
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And it's not bad, it's actually beautiful. It's one of
755
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the cool things about being woman is that we get
756
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to do this. And I saw some people getting mad
757
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when older women such as myself were encouraging AOC not
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to do this, that she wants children and she's found
759
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.679
her husband. To just get on that right away. We
760
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speak from experience. I did get married later, much much
761
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much later than I had planned, and had hoped for,
762
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and it did limit the number of children I was
763
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able to have. My first pregnancies were very easy, and
764
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like I was like, Wow, this is amazing. You just
765
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.519
get married and you have a kid right away. And
766
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then I had multiple losses which were extremely difficult for me.
767
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Not physically, although one was very physically difficult, but emotionally
768
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.800
very difficult. I was not able to have the size
769
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of family that I had hoped to have and that
770
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.559
I think I would have really excelled at. And it's
771
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.280
still a pain for me. My husband is always telling
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me to be thankful for the children that God gave
773
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us and not be you know, not always being lacking
774
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that contentedness.
775
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And I always do a little bitter with new ones
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though you see, it's another shot at it. Not just kidding.
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I just want to say that we didn't go through
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what you did, but we have a similar story. You know,
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we got married late, and we wish. I wish that
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we had a larger family, because nothing brings you joy
781
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.360
more than your your children, even when they are aren't
782
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perfect or difficult or whatever.
783
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It is, right, I wouldn't know anything about that, just kidding, Yeah,
784
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but I saw people saying like, don't say this, it's
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politically unwise. And I certainly know that Donald Trump is like,
786
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.360
we're the pro family party, and that's why we support IVF. Counterintuitively,
787
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.400
perhaps that is not a good way to be pro family.
788
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.280
A good way to be pro family is to encourage
789
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people to get married, married, well, stay married, have children.
790
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.119
And there's something about this, like the psychology of using
791
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technology that can affect marital happiness and your own health.
792
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And I'm not saying that everything assists did in reproductive
793
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technology is bad, but some of the things are bad.
794
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Sometimes you're creating a bunch of little humans and you
795
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only intend to have one of them, and you're going
796
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:11.960
to discard the ones that you don't like you should
797
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.920
think about. They don't want you thinking deeply about what
798
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.280
you're doing, and they also don't need to think like, oh,
799
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.159
if I'm treating children this way, does this also affect
800
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.119
the way I treat grandmas and grandpa's when they become
801
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:26.800
less useful to me? So people, we should we should
802
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.599
have philosophers with us in this journey and theologians on it.
803
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.079
But I wanted to point out I said on top
804
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of a tweet about AOC doing this for freezing her eggs. Ladies,
805
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get married to a good man as young as you're
806
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.719
able and have your babies and do it naturally. This
807
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.000
is a very sad public performance slash display of unnecessarily
808
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:55.199
unwise decision making. And again, she's already found her husband
809
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and has been with him for a really long time.
810
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.239
Katie Miller, who's great and has a podcast and is
811
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married to Stephen Miller, she responded to me, good for
812
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.760
her for wanting to be mother and preserving the ability
813
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.639
to do so. If she inspires other women to want
814
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to become mothers, awesome, we need more babies. And I
815
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saw Lydia moynihan, another person who I just love. She
816
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.159
sometimes says TV stuff, but she's a New York Post columnist,
817
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.800
and she's just lovely and well spoken and all that.
818
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.519
But she said, if Conservatives want to be the pro
819
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.679
family party, they should support egg freezing, or at the
820
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:38.039
very least not attack it. Lots of women freeze their
821
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.519
eggs for a variety of reasons, and going after them
822
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.800
it is a bizarre hill to die on and also
823
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.000
further alienating to a lot of female voters who Republicans
824
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.079
should try to win over. I am not a political strategist,
825
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.559
but I do care deeply about women's happiness, and so
826
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I will speak publicly about rejecting social pressure to focus
827
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on your career, which, by the way, careers are lame.
828
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They are.
829
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I don't know why careers got such a great rap
830
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.239
in the feminist like they're so lame. You have to
831
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.320
go to work every day early and then you're there late,
832
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:22.480
and it's awful, Like they're not a thing that provides joy.
833
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.800
And I'm pretty sure of all the women I know,
834
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:30.360
I have the best career. I am really happy with
835
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.239
my jobs. But trust me, people, it is I mean,
836
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.760
it just never ends. You're just working all the time
837
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.280
for the man so they can make the money. Do
838
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.079
not believe Of all the lies, like the lies about
839
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:47.000
delaying child bearing are certainly the most awful, But the
840
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.360
stupidest are the ones that are like, you should go
841
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.960
work for corporation. That's what your whole life purpose is. No,
842
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.400
it's not, come on people. Sorry.
843
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.280
I think for men though, and other people who work,
844
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.800
there is joy in your career, and there should be joy,
845
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:05.679
and you're in work and all of that. But I
846
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.320
get a one hundred percent get what you're saying, so
847
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.480
I will say this. The other day, I tweeted out
848
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.599
something where I said, like people, it was a different
849
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.360
it was this burrito thing that was going on online. Whatever.
850
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:17.559
I don't want to talk about that, but I do
851
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:19.400
want to talk about that that. A lot of people
852
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.800
told me your messaging is wrong on this, You're turning
853
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.840
people up whatever it is, and I tweeted out, who
854
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.880
cares about messaging? You just have to say what you believe, right,
855
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.480
which I don't. I'm unhappy I tweeted out because it's
856
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.320
very self aggrandizing, right, But it's true that you and
857
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.800
I are not politicians. We're just trying to tell the
858
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.280
truth as we see it. But there is an emotional
859
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.400
component here that I'm going to tell you about because
860
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.880
I am not coming from your perspective, not that I'm
861
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.519
against your perspective. I don't have deeply held feelings on
862
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.559
a lot of this stuff. Yet when people talk about this,
863
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.719
they think about the woman they know who really wants
864
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.519
to have kids and can't, and no matter how you're
865
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.119
phrasing it, the person who is alive and who is
866
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:02.280
struggling and who wants to have a family. Well, you
867
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.280
bring forth a lot of sympathy from people, so I
868
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.760
think that's why you see this kind of pushback. I
869
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.639
don't think people are deeply thinking about what it means.
870
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:14.280
But there are also people can have kids who are
871
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.239
younger too, so they think that they think about all
872
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.199
those women and how they're struggling and how hard it
873
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.400
is for them. So it's difficult for them to say no,
874
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.400
too bad. It's just not how it works. God didn't
875
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.119
have that plan for you, right, So I mean, what
876
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.280
do you say to that kind of argument.
877
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.880
Which one exactly but the whole thing, like, what about
878
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.320
a young woman who needs some kind of technological help,
879
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.239
or maybe needs another maybe it's the husband who can't
880
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:43.119
have children.
881
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.400
I would only say that you should you should know
882
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:51.559
enough about the process to not do something unethical as
883
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.280
part of the process. So it is true that technology
884
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.920
can help. All sorts of other things can help, kind
885
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.480
of like I've had friends who've had six sess, simply
886
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.800
losing weight and eating healthier can actually affect your fertility
887
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.280
and can affect it for both the men and the
888
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:13.880
women who are involved in the reproductive process. And if
889
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.280
you need help, you should get help. But that doesn't
890
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:21.199
mean that all help is equally valid or ethical. Nobody
891
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.800
would say, well, you want a kid and you don't
892
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.360
have one, so it's okay to go steal that lady's kid,
893
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:29.880
because you can't steal other people's kids because of the
894
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:34.960
ethical issues in play. Similarly, when you're thinking about using
895
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:40.960
technology to acquire the child, it's a really big battle
896
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:46.400
to not then be utilitarian in your thinking or thinking
897
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.480
of the child as a product rather than as the
898
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.440
natural gift of love. And so you have to be
899
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:55.320
doing this with philosophy and mind and theology and mind,
900
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.119
and then also the similar issues with ethics. Okay, we've
901
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.239
got this easy. You're just gonna inject yourself with hormones
902
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.239
that are gonna make it hard for you to have
903
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:08.039
marital love. And then we're gonna harvest some eggs. And
904
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.199
then we're going to harvest so many because the success
905
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.199
rate isn't very good. So we're gonna harvest a ton.
906
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.480
We're gonna we're going to fertilize a ton. We're gonna
907
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.480
create little humans, but we're not gonna call them that
908
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.159
because that might make you feel icky about what we're
909
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.000
about to do with them. And then because of that,
910
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.159
we might put a bunch in you, but we'll just
911
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.400
abort the ones if too many take, and we'll discard
912
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.079
the ones if enough take. You know, you just you
913
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.239
should be thinking about it, not thinking I want a
914
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.679
grand baby and so I'm gonna pressure my kid into
915
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:40.800
doing this, or I want a baby and so I'm
916
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.960
gonna do literally whatever it takes, including some unethical procedures.
917
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.639
So it is more expensive to not create multiple humans
918
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.679
and then discard them in terms of the financial cost.
919
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.840
In terms of the moral cost, it is much less expensive.
920
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.679
So we need people thinking more about it and less.
921
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.719
But I want to say I do care about messaging
922
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.199
a great deal. That's kind of my whole point of
923
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.480
my jobs is that I do messaging for the truth
924
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.519
and things I care about, and we should think about
925
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.000
how we message things, and we should be aware that
926
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.239
politics is a part of that. You know. Unfortunately, the
927
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.960
Democrat like I care a great deal about human life,
928
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:28.440
and the Democratic Party and parts of the Republican Party
929
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.880
don't care about that at all. And so I think,
930
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.480
how if we're going to preserve a culture of life,
931
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.920
primarily that's happening going to happen of the two political parties,
932
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.519
that's primarily going to happen through the Republican Party right now.
933
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.000
So part of the messaging is about commencing them to
934
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.320
not abandon those of us who care about this. It's
935
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.199
also about looking for opportunities to convey that message and
936
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.679
the Democratic Party, and there's nothing wrong with that. I mean,
937
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:56.400
we're governed by politics, so we have to think politically
938
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:59.639
to some extent. I'm just not a Republican Party strategist,
939
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.679
and I'm not in part because if I were, that
940
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:05.760
might mean I would have to care less about the
941
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.360
issues I care about. But I am a American strategist.
942
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.920
I want America to succeed, and I want us to
943
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.760
succeed with the right values. So part of that is
944
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.239
about the political process, right.
945
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.559
I don't think so, I don't know. I think people
946
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.280
have different jobs. You have a much bigger microphone, honestly,
947
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:28.199
and with that comes a bigger responsibility. I assume I'm
948
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.239
not changing many minds, and I like to give people
949
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.119
who do agree with me more ammunition, or people who
950
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.239
agree with me more maybe a different perspective, even if
951
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.280
they don't like it, and so that's maybe more entertainment.
952
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:42.199
I think what I do is silly I mean, I
953
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:43.679
think a lot of this is silly in a way,
954
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:46.800
but I do, in a weird way, think that pundits
955
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.800
give a voice to people by being hated and being loved.
956
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.679
Do you know what I mean? Where people feel like
957
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:57.119
someone speaking for you. And I meet a lot of
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people who have jobs, I'm like, what, I don't even
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understand what you do? Is that useful for anyone? You
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know what I mean? So I don't. I'm not too
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hard on us, but but that's how I think about it. Okay,
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I think that's it right culture Sure, I do not
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have many things. Again, I'm working on a book, so
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I will say this, and I don't want to be
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mocked by you at all that I'm watching a show
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with one of my kids called or actually both like
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the guests, called mal shadow Lord. It's a Star Wars show.
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And if you like that and listen, I was seven
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years old when Star Wars came out, so I've always
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had a little place for it in my heart. It's
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really good, I thought. And then I have a book recommendation,
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which is it's called to Overthrow the World. And I
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think the author's name is Sean McKean. Maybe it's it's
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he's a great author. I think he wrote Stalin's War,
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and this is just about kind of the communist tactics
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and history of how they infiltrate societies through democratic means
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most of the times or other means, and then turn
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the whole thing authoritarian into tyrannical, and how that works
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and what the process is and who the players were.
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I think it offers great lessons to what's going on today.
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I'm not saying we're on the cusp of being the
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Soviet Union, but that doesn't mean we should ignore some
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very serious science. Sometimes we dismiss crazy people, but crazy
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people have been running the big parts of the world
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for lots of history, so we have to take those
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people seriously. And that's it for me. How about you.
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I We've been very busy because of the situation with
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Mark's mother and my dad, as we know, died in February,
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and then his mother died here in early August, and
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she's very much a larger than life figure and it's
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just very hard. And I think I mentioned this months ago,
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but when my dad died, about seven months prior to that,
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my uncle Bob died and we love Uncle Bob, he's
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the best and his he had two kids and his son.
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My cousin my same age, died from a rare cancer
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when he was forty nine. So for the surviving kid,
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I remember my brother and I, you know, we went
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out to the funeral. We felt very badly. We knew
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she was going through a lot, losing her brother and
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then also her dad. But there's something about when you
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lose your dad that you realize, oh, wow, this is
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the worst thing I've ever gone through, and I can't
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believe people are just walking around surviving with this pain.
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And then I look at my mother and I realized
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that losing a parent is absolutely nothing compared to losing
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your spouse, and no matter when it happens, it's hard.
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You know, you've been married for two years, that's hard
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in its own way. When you've been married for more
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than fifty years, as my parents were, that's hard in
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a completely different way. And I know there's no way
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to go to learn it unless you're going through it,
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but it just hurts me that Mark is now having
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to go through this, and also his dad, who's ninety,
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who was her primary caretaker. They were married forever, obviously,
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and it's just difficult, and a lot of a lot
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of work gets involved with that, so we've been kind
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of consumed by the work and trying to arrange all that.
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So I don't really have a ton of excitement. But
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last night I came home from my horrific day of
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travel and I was like, I do need a drink
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and I just want to watch something. And Mark and
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I finished with great difficulty the four seasons, season two,
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and I don't think we really needed to do it.
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And if we hadn't, if I hadn't just had to
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get my mind calm from the travel, I'm not sure
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I would have sat in front of the TV. But
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I really don't like those people, and they are godless
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liberals and they are annoying, and so much of family
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drama or like drama these days comedies. I guess technically
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that's a comedy. He would be forgiven for not knowing
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that it's built around characters who just need to know God,
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and it's very boring. They're just boring left wingers. Like
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there was that subplot about COVID where they all got
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COVID and they were paranoid about COVID, and it's just
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a reminder of how stupid they all are. Am I
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being mean? No?
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I thought the second season was atrocious. It wasn't funny. Yeah,
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the first season had this dynamic where they realize they're
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old now because this younger person shows up in their lives,
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and there was some humor in that because they're kind
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like Tina Fey I think is born like a few
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days away from when I was born, so we're like
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the same age. So I get that they had nowhere
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to go with this. The second season was terrible. There
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was a lot of just there is this weird thing
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where we're left ease. Will mock woke and mock their lifestyles,
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but not in a way it's hard to explain. It's
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not in a it's not treating it as the serious
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ideology it is. Do you know what I'm saying. It's
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like this light mocking that makes it seem just fun
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and weird, not like something that is very serious. And
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I have to say also, Will Fortebo, I like when
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he's over the top as comedian is great, but in
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any kind of serious role he just cannot. He just
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seems off and he cannot act, and I found him
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grating to watch that couple has zero had no spark,
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and I think I'm talking about this going too deep
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on this. Right, that actor Coleman Domingo, the he's a
1059
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good actor, Like he's funny. The Italian guy's even Okay,
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there's no Italian guy is.
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The only funny person in the show.
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But the whole speaking of kids and all that, that
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whole I mean, they're like almost sixty, right, and there's
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a whole plot line about having children and stuff. Right,
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I mean it was so weird. I could just go
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back to what we were talking about before. There's also
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there are a lot of kids who don't have homes
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in this world who could be adopted. And you know,
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if you really need children, you could do the world
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a great favor, you know, by helping those children as well. Right, anyway,
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that show is terrible. The first season had what's his name?
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's a bad show. Yeah,
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season was okay. The second season made me hate the
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first season, which I didn't even hate originally. It was
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so bad.
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And Mark was saying something about how we got a
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little spoiled during peak TV because there was good television
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and that stuff like this is actually what television has
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mostly been.
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Yeah, well, this is why I'm constantly going back and
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watching like Justified or Better Call Saul, or Baking that.
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Actually good television. And then I'm still reading this very
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long but awesome book, Reformations by Carlos Air, and I
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really appreciate how he handles the story. I will say
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that I did find something for I didn't think he
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handled it the best, which was Luther's debates with Johannes Eck.
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You know, the author, Carlos Air is Roman Catholic, and
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he had a very sort of Roman Catholic bias on
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his perspective of how those debates went. You don't even
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know what I'm talking about, probably, but still recommend at
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this point the thirteen hundred page Reformations book. It's just
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taken me a while.
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It is on my reading list. As soon as I'm
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done with my own book because i'm doing research reading,
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I will be reading that. I appreciate the recommend all right.
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If anyone else has book recommendations, show recommendations, please email
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us at radio at the Federalist dot com. We'd love
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to hear from you, and we'll be back next week.
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Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the
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fray