Is Evil Dead Rise REALLY an Evil Dead Movie? - Xenomania 82

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Jon: This week on Xenomania, when
an earthquake opens a path into
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a bank vault, a teen discovers a
creepy book and a series of records.
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Of course, he has to play them, even in a
blackout and against his sister's wishes.
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With no Ash Williams to save them, what
he unleashes will destroy his family and
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neighbors before the night is through.
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We certainly know not to read
from an evil book, right, guys?
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Right?
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In addition, we play a round of
Slash or Stash that has to be
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completely safe for my co-hosts.
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This is Evil Dead Rise.
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This is Xenomania
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Ryan: in the middle of the
night, a nice boom stick
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Kearns: I bet you do, buddy.
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Do, do you just say, "Come get some?"
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Ryan: Groovy, baby.
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Kearns: Shop smart, shop S Mart.
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Jon: Do you like, to wake
up with a boom stick?
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A boom stick nestled
between, your, pillows
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Kearns: Your Necronomicons?
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Ryan: The Neca Comic Cons?
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Yeah.
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Ah.
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Kearns: There you
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Jon: Oh God, we're gonna hear
that so many times tonight.
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Ryan: Yes,
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Jon: Necro
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Kearns: we
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Ryan: Yes, you
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Jon: Comic-Con
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Ryan: talking about The Evil Dead,
but we're talking about The Evil
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Dead Rise, the recent sequel in
The Evil Dead franchise as we're
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talking about it today, July 10th.
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Evil Dead burn was released, and from
my understanding, to mixed reviews.
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Mixed to positive reviews, I should say
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Jon: That's what I've seen.
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I'm not… Like, it seems like this is…
I don't know a lot about the director.
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I did watch his previous movie this
afternoon, Infested, which is a
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French spider takeover kind of movie.
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it's all right.
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It seems like it's a big step to hand The
Evil Dead to him, but, you know, maybe
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: Maybe
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Kearns: Rotten Tomatoes right now, 72%.
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IMDb 6.9 out of 10, Metacritic 58%.
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So it's,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: not struggling, but it's
definitely getting its, it's
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definitely getting criticized
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: taken with a new director, right?
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still on the same story focus.
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I feel like as we'll get into it
with Rise, it's like a requel.
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Like, it's remembering the past films.
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There's, homages to it.
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But, also in this film, it kinda
takes its own creative, direction.
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And I know I messed up on homage.
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There we go,
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Jon: No, you got it.
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You got it.
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I w- I was… That, that,
that was a prideful smile.
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Ryan: Oh, okay.
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I was worried.
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Um, but
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Kearns: didn't see us not in approval?
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Ryan: no, I, I, I looked away 'cause
I was like, "Oh man, did I mess up?"
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And I just kept going with it, just
like John Belushi in Animal House.
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But, you know, it's like taking that
chance and as, um, again, we're gonna
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discuss, like, w- the question is
to kinda give a theme is, is this
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even an Evil Dead movie, right?
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And that's something to ponder
while… We'll answer our version
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of it later, but that's something
to ponder for the whole podcast
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Kearns: criticize something real quick.
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Jon: Okay, let's get d-
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Kearns: quick.
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In every
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Jon: well
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Kearns: Dead movie, there's
the inciting event, right?
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Ryan: Yes.
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Kearns: The inciting event is
the finding of the damn book.
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What's the book called again, Ryan?
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Ryan: The Necrokamika
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Kearns: The Necronomicon.
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So in this movie, was the finding
of the Necronomicon up to par?
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Ryan: Yes, 50/50.
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I feel like you're first introduced
to it in The Evil Dead, uh, the
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original one, you got the atmosphere,
the creepiness, the lone cabin.
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no lights, no electricity.
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You feel the airiness.
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You know,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: something bad in the cellar.
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this one, you go into this
vault, like bank 'cause the
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building's built on top of a bank.
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Uh, Danny… Is it Danny?
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Jon: Danny, yeah.
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Kearns: who finds it, yeah
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Ryan: Danny?
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Jon: The, the sort of non-age
specific male character who looks
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like he's 12 but he can drive.
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He looks 12, but he drives.
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he's sort of like 18 to 20 in a
Justin Bieber 18 to 20 kind of way,
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where he could be a lot younger
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Ryan: I was, I kept thinking of
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Kearns: tell the difference between
him and Miley Cyrus at that point.
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: That kind of Bieber?
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Yeah Makes sense.
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So they find it in the bank
vault after an earthquake in this
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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And Danny
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Ryan: like it, it,
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Jon: It works.
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I mean,
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Ryan: vibes
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Jon: it does, and it gives you, like,
sort of a sense that this was, isn't, uh,
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something you should mess around with.
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That it's, you know, locked in a
vault in a bank that was obviously
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abandoned and then built on top of.
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You know, whoever put it in that
vault didn't want it to come out
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Ryan: Is that based on all the hanging
crosses and the big crucifix on
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Jon: Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, they,
there's a lot of hints in there that
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you probably shouldn't take these things
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Kearns: Yeah, I
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Jon: definitely… No.
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Kearns: throw that out there.
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Jon: Yes, we would've.
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Kearns: No shot.
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Jon: At, at, at whatever random,
whatever random, whatever random
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pre-teen to teen age that Danny is,
you 100% would've taken that stuff too.
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You would've been like, "This is,
this stuff is cool. I'm taking it."
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Kearns: I
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was thinking
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Jon: We,
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Kearns: me, not then me.
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Yeah
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Jon: no, because current you, current
you, current me, we understand
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the danger in taking that book
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Ryan: I'd still take it
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Kearns: Right.
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Ryan: Why not?
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What's the worst that's gonna ha- okay,
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Kearns: Did you not watch
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Jon: what d- yeah, what's the
worst that's gonna happen?
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Ryan: savvy
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Jon: I don't know.
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Your body's gonna contort in weird ways.
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You're gonna vomit a lot.
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You're gonna try to off your family.
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You're gonna… Yeah, yeah, you're
gonna, you're gonna change a bit
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Ryan: just the de- that's the demons.
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That's the demons talking
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Kearns: gonna be possessed and a passenger
while all that's occurring your body.
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Ryan: know,
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Kearns: worse.
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Ryan: I'd be fine with, I'd be fine
with that because you know what?
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I'll be… You know what bothered me
a little bit is I like the new design
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of the book with the teeth, I miss
the old design with the face on it.
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It kinda threw me off,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: covers.
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Ryan: but
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Kearns: Well, there
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: different… Uh, didn't, in Ash
Vs Evil Dead, didn't they distinguish
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that there are different Necronomicons?
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Ryan: I've only made it up to season two
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Kearns: Maybe.
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Ryan: That's, that's why…
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Kearns: so,
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Jon: I've seen the whole near
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Ryan: maybe they mentioned--
It was so long ago.
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: that?
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Jon: I don't, I, I
don't remember for sure.
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I wa- I watched Ash vs Evil Dead
was probably the last show I
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watched, like, live as it aired
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Ryan: Rightfully so.
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Jon: And not streaming,
I would just, yeah.
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But I don't, I mean, it was long enough
ago that I would have to… That would
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really be making it up if I guessed
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It might
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Kearns: are.
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There are three distinct volumes.
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It's canonically established that
there are three distinct volumes.
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Ryan: Hmm.
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So
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Kearns: was the one in the Evil
Dead trilogy, the original.
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Volume two is in the 2013 one, and
volume three is in Evil Dead Rise
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Ryan: I wonder if they're gonna show
each book in, in the upcoming sequels.
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Like Byrne will have a different book,
and then Wrath will have a different book
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Kearns: pull
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Jon: Maybe.
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Kearns: for the, for the pod.
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Ryan: Just thinking
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Kearns: That'd be
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Jon: Maybe that,
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Kearns: Um,
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Jon: that'd be a good idea.
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Kearns: Let's see if they run with it.
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Jon: Mm-hmm
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Kearns: they run with it.
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I know that this movie is
filled with Easter eggs.
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Before we start touching on those,
uh, or the ones at least that
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I noticed, how about the cast?
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Did you guys…
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Like, we talked about Danny
already, the ambiguously aged
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child, man child, boy, teenager.
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Um, how about the rest?
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An Evil Dead movie with kids
has a different vibe to it
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Jon: It does.
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It does, it very much does.
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I liked the kids though.
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Like, I liked, you know, they didn't
just cookie cut some personalities.
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You know, they gave whatever age
Danny is sort of his own personality
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with a, you know, his DJ kinda thing.
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And you know, and Bridget is the
eco-sensitive middle child, you know.
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But Cassie to me is the best of the three
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Kearns: I see the little one.
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Jon: Yeah, the little one is awesome,
walking around with Staffanie.
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I mean, Staffanie's the funniest
part of this whole thing.
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She, you know, like, if you haven't seen
it, Staffanie is a wooden staff with a
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doll's head on top, and it's designed
to ward away evil in Cassie's world
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Kearns: In Cassie's little hopeful world
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Ryan: And
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Jon: works at one point
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Ryan: yeah, it does
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Kearns: does.
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Kinda does.
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Well, see, the thing about this movie
is what cuts right through it is that
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the person possessed at the apartment
portion of it is their mother,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: and
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Jon: Yeah, she's
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Ryan: Alyssa Sutherland
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Jon: Yeah, she's really,
really good in that.
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Kearns: Hmm.
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Jon: menacing and, you know, like
just, but also, you know, the
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way they used her ability to just
sort of float back into being mom
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Kearns: Yeah
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Jon: and…
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Ryan: It's
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Jon: It's very, very, yeah,
unnerving's a very good word for it
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Ryan: It's just like 'cause
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Kearns: the first movie I'd seen in a
long time that I found actually, like,
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Ryan: Yeah.
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Like bring her back
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Kearns: watching this.
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Now, Bring It Back was a bad movie
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Ryan: So did you feel the glass
scene in s- in this was on
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the level of Bring Her Back?
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Kearns: No.
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Bring
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Ryan: I thought,
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Kearns: different
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Ryan: thought, I thought that gla-
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Kearns: was hard though
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Ryan: that glass scene was rough.
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Jon: Yeah.
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Kearns: But it
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Jon: Yeah
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Kearns: chewing on a butcher knife.
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Jon: I mean, it's not far off.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean,
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Ryan: the glass
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Jon: for, if, again, if you, if,
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Kearns: ante in this
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Jon: if you haven't watched it, you
should probably pause now and watch it.
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But, um, after Bridget gets
possessed, she eats a glass
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Kearns: Yeah, it's tough
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Ryan: But it's all based on the demons
that are in the book, which I like.
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Like Ellie is based on what I'm
just gonna call the Red Queen demon
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'cause of her red hair and all that.
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She looks like an ambiguous, like the
leader of the whole group, while Bridget
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becomes, uh, I don't know how to put it.
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Like she's got… It's
on the tip of my tongue.
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Like it's the demon with the maggots
inside, and it's like eating, it's eating
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her from inside, so she, that's why she
eats the glass to kill what's inside her.
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I for- There's a term for that.
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It's from an X-Files episode
too, so that's why I'm like
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Jon: And, eh, we'll,
we'll call her Maga Tina
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Kearns: I, I
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Ryan: That's what I'm saying.
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Kearns: I do enjoy
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Ryan: and cheese
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Kearns: Yeah, that works.
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I do enjoy demonology and stuff, but
they s- the specifics you're getting to
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Ryan: It's in,
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Kearns: a
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Ryan: Constantine too.
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It's
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: issue of Hellblazer.
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It's like the bugs eat you
within and kinda like your soul.
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But when the, the demon terms, it's
an ongoing thing, so that's why
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it keeps eating people, and glass,
and anything to what's inside it
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Kearns: The what's inside of it is
what's getting me, 'cause the gluttony
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Ryan: Oh, on a-unalive.
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I'm sorry.
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Unalive
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Kearns: No,
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Ryan: instead.
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Kearns: k- the unalive and what's inside
thing is what's throwing me off, 'cause
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the gluttony thing is a big… Like, you
can find a few of them that are like that,
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Ryan: Yes
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Kearns: but,
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Kearns: Belphegor-esque and stuff.
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But you can't-- I can't think
of anything but like when you're
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consciously trying to off it from
within, that's why you're eating things.
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don't know
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Ryan: I feel like it's a lower, a
lower term demon, if that makes sense.
00:13:06.454 --> 00:13:06.804
But
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Kearns: bem.
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É que, né
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Ryan: by the time we get to the
third act and we get to the, the
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big mama jamba, that's pretty cool.
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I don't
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: Yeah, the big mama jamba
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Jon: Yeah, I… The, the full,
the full on body horror one
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Kearns: Yeah.
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The, what do we call it?
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The amalgamation of all the bodies
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:13:31.624 --> 00:13:32.064
Mm-hmm.
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Ryan: There we go.
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Jon: The what?
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Kearns: What was that?
00:13:36.860 --> 00:13:37.910
Ryan: The amygdala
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Kearns: Uh, yeah, the, uh, the Amygdala?
00:13:41.104 --> 00:13:41.654
Ryan: I went with a
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Jon: Amydala?
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Ryan: Yes, the Batman villain, yes.
00:13:45.364 --> 00:13:45.964
that direction.
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Kearns: part of
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Jon: No
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Ryan: The Abadullah, the what…
I'm trying to remember the, the
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Kearns: the Amygdalas
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Ryan: Amagdala, but yeah
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Kearns: Th- that's a
cool little lore, too.
00:13:55.659 --> 00:13:58.759
In Bloodborne, you had to s- get a
certain amount of insight before you
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could see the Amygdalas that were
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Ryan: Yes
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Kearns: you throughout the whole game.
00:14:02.549 --> 00:14:03.209
Awesome.
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Awesome job.
00:14:04.149 --> 00:14:04.889
Back to Evil Dead.
00:14:05.194 --> 00:14:05.624
Jon: Yes
00:14:07.019 --> 00:14:10.079
Kearns: we're getting through this
movie, and we're watching it, and
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we're constantly judging it because
it's got Evil Dead in its name, right?
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Does it stack up at all
with the first three?
00:14:17.409 --> 00:14:19.249
We're not even gonna
talk about 2013 right now
00:14:19.848 --> 00:14:23.148
Jon: No, we're gonna,
we're gonna skip that.
00:14:23.858 --> 00:14:30.418
I think my, I think I put my opinions
on 2013 out there pretty strongly
00:14:30.598 --> 00:14:34.758
Ryan: You know, seeing it in theaters
with the high hopes, it'd be great.
00:14:34.878 --> 00:14:35.928
And then, yeah.
00:14:36.155 --> 00:14:36.765
Kearns: in theaters?
00:14:37.148 --> 00:14:39.338
Ryan: Oh, no, not Rise, 2013
00:14:39.392 --> 00:14:40.522
Jon: Rise in theaters.
00:14:40.548 --> 00:14:41.438
Ryan: wish I did.
00:14:41.457 --> 00:14:42.697
Kearns: were not going to talk about
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Ryan: Well, that's when he, he… I
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Kearns: continue
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Ryan: th- it was,
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Kearns: of
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Ryan: I thought he was
talking about 2013 real quick.
00:14:47.898 --> 00:14:48.628
That's why I was like, "I
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Jon: No, no
00:14:49.578 --> 00:14:50.328
Ryan: You didn't like it?
00:14:50.328 --> 00:14:50.518
I,
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Kearns: he,
00:14:50.798 --> 00:14:50.998
Ryan: I,
00:14:51.065 --> 00:14:52.795
Kearns: just letting us
know that he didn't like it
00:14:53.218 --> 00:14:53.588
Ryan: I
00:14:55.444 --> 00:14:56.294
Jon: Not even a little.
00:14:56.609 --> 00:14:57.019
Kearns: how does it
00:14:57.064 --> 00:14:57.884
Jon: Not even a little
00:14:58.279 --> 00:14:59.679
Kearns: trilogy, Ryan?
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For
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Ryan: In my opinion, I think it
00:15:01.779 --> 00:15:03.419
Kearns: droning on about the bad
00:15:03.846 --> 00:15:05.766
Ryan: It does, it does a good job, I feel.
00:15:05.766 --> 00:15:10.026
It, it's going more to the first one,
where the first one's really direct
00:15:10.026 --> 00:15:14.476
horror, but it has little instances
of the second and third one with
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the Deadites' face and how they act.
00:15:17.026 --> 00:15:18.816
But it goes more horror aspect.
00:15:19.016 --> 00:15:22.326
While with, like, Two and Army
of Darkness, even with Ash versus
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Evil Dead, if we're gonna talk
about that 'cause that is canon,
00:15:26.586 --> 00:15:29.696
it is horror, a little more comedy.
00:15:30.176 --> 00:15:31.686
It has a little more of a comedy edge.
00:15:31.756 --> 00:15:37.276
While Evil Dead Rise it- this
is, like… No, like, I had to
00:15:37.276 --> 00:15:39.446
watch Spinal Tap after this film.
00:15:40.286 --> 00:15:40.476
Like,
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Kearns: Wow
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Ryan: was like, "This is the second
time I've watched this film, and
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I still get unnerved." And I knew
certain things were coming, and I
00:15:49.098 --> 00:15:49.108
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:15:49.186 --> 00:15:51.066
Ryan: like, "No, I gotta
watch a comedy or something
00:15:53.158 --> 00:15:53.528
Yeah
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Kearns: a hard time gotten it
through movies like this these days.
00:15:56.957 --> 00:15:59.057
This kind of horror,
and I appreciate it too.
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It's not like I don't like it.
00:16:00.777 --> 00:16:01.597
I do like it.
00:16:01.597 --> 00:16:05.757
It's just harder for me
to watch Isn't that weird?
00:16:05.958 --> 00:16:06.738
Ryan: The gore?
00:16:06.927 --> 00:16:07.897
Kearns: a giant wuss.
00:16:07.907 --> 00:16:11.787
It's, maybe it's the gor- but the body
horror definitely adds a lot to it.
00:16:12.168 --> 00:16:12.328
Ryan: Are you
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Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:16:12.688 --> 00:16:12.698
Ryan: about
00:16:14.517 --> 00:16:17.847
Kearns: movie that makes it so,
like, you wanna turn on the hall
00:16:17.847 --> 00:16:19.207
light before heading to the bathroom
00:16:19.398 --> 00:16:19.928
Ryan: Yeah.
00:16:20.107 --> 00:16:20.417
Kearns: that.
00:16:20.887 --> 00:16:21.467
Yeah.
00:16:22.178 --> 00:16:22.488
Ryan: don't
00:16:22.527 --> 00:16:23.417
Kearns: why we do this, you know?
00:16:23.417 --> 00:16:25.477
We like scary movies, but this one, this
00:16:25.482 --> 00:16:25.492
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:16:25.497 --> 00:16:29.777
Kearns: type of, this style, I should
say, has been getting tricky for me
00:16:29.958 --> 00:16:31.778
Ryan: You don't know she's
at the end of the hall.
00:16:32.228 --> 00:16:33.298
Like, it, it
00:16:34.597 --> 00:16:36.487
Kearns: You hear her skittering
around on the ceiling.
00:16:36.558 --> 00:16:37.118
Ryan: Mother,
00:16:37.158 --> 00:16:37.588
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:16:39.668 --> 00:16:40.688
In the air ducts.
00:16:40.688 --> 00:16:40.858
I bet
00:16:41.067 --> 00:16:42.247
Kearns: my mom down the stairs
00:16:45.467 --> 00:16:46.907
Ma, you're, Ma, are you watching?
00:16:47.627 --> 00:16:49.167
You're getting it bad.
00:16:49.197 --> 00:16:52.207
If you get possessed and come
after me, you're gonna fly
00:16:52.934 --> 00:16:53.824
Jon: I mean, that's fair.
00:16:53.854 --> 00:16:54.114
That's
00:16:54.172 --> 00:16:54.662
Kearns: out there
00:16:54.874 --> 00:16:55.794
Jon: reas- that's reasonable
00:16:57.329 --> 00:16:57.689
Ryan: That's fair.
00:16:59.700 --> 00:17:00.640
Jon: I mean, it's reasonable.
00:17:00.650 --> 00:17:01.750
She's possessed.
00:17:01.760 --> 00:17:02.640
Uh, yeah.
00:17:03.270 --> 00:17:05.820
She would want you, she
would want you to do that.
00:17:06.008 --> 00:17:06.568
Kearns: is Sparta
00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:08.970
Jon: She would want you to do that
00:17:09.544 --> 00:17:10.014
Kearns: Yeah.
00:17:10.184 --> 00:17:11.874
Let's hope 'cause it, it's
00:17:12.047 --> 00:17:12.667
Ryan: Oh, yeah.
00:17:12.727 --> 00:17:16.977
'Cause like you can… And I like
that is they continue that from at
00:17:16.977 --> 00:17:20.777
least, wanna say from the first one,
but at least the second and third one
00:17:20.787 --> 00:17:24.887
where, and Ash vs Evil Dead, where
when the person's possessed, you
00:17:24.887 --> 00:17:26.437
see a little bit of them come out.
00:17:27.067 --> 00:17:28.817
Again, it's really not
seen in the first one.
00:17:28.817 --> 00:17:32.877
I feel like in the first one it's more
of an illusion, where it's luring the
00:17:32.877 --> 00:17:34.297
characters down into the basement.
00:17:34.317 --> 00:17:38.277
But the second and third one in the
series, you do see those characters
00:17:38.277 --> 00:17:42.027
come out from the possession showing
the pain and what they're going through.
00:17:42.027 --> 00:17:45.857
And it, I feel, shows in Evil
Dead Rise through little hints.
00:17:46.567 --> 00:17:48.707
that demon does have a big hold on her
00:17:50.544 --> 00:17:50.864
Kearns: Yeah,
00:17:51.058 --> 00:17:55.058
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:17:55.365 --> 00:17:59.665
Ryan: scene, I thought, like, remembering
when I first saw it, I thought we were
00:17:59.788 --> 00:18:00.008
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:18:00.245 --> 00:18:00.895
Ryan: tree scene.
00:18:00.895 --> 00:18:02.015
I'm like, "Thank God."
00:18:02.782 --> 00:18:03.372
Kearns: The Gables?
00:18:03.415 --> 00:18:04.065
Ryan: Yeah.
00:18:04.932 --> 00:18:07.292
Kearns: Oh, that was definitely
an Easter egg as well, though.
00:18:08.032 --> 00:18:08.382
firmly
00:18:08.434 --> 00:18:09.534
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:18:09.544 --> 00:18:10.244
Mm-hmm.
00:18:10.464 --> 00:18:11.344
Oh, absolutely.
00:18:11.344 --> 00:18:13.364
There, there are a bunch of them, yeah
00:18:13.382 --> 00:18:14.472
Kearns: the Bridget Fonda
00:18:16.624 --> 00:18:18.994
There's a Bridget Fonda
allusion with the billboard
00:18:19.473 --> 00:18:19.733
Ryan: Yep.
00:18:19.844 --> 00:18:23.504
Kearns: where it says Fonda on the
billboard, and for some reason it
00:18:23.668 --> 00:18:25.738
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:18:25.738 --> 00:18:26.208
Mm-hmm.
00:18:26.504 --> 00:18:30.954
Kearns: going on there?" And it's because
Bridget Fonda was in the, in the Army
00:18:30.954 --> 00:18:32.634
of Darkness or is she in the second one?
00:18:33.224 --> 00:18:35.044
She's in the S- she's an S-Mart clerk
00:18:35.866 --> 00:18:38.906
Jon: Oh, so yeah, probably
Aria of Darkness, yeah
00:18:39.009 --> 00:18:39.589
Ryan: of Darkness.
00:18:39.930 --> 00:18:40.020
Kearns: She
00:18:40.109 --> 00:18:40.339
Ryan: Yeah
00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:43.100
Kearns: be in the franchise, but she
couldn't 'cause she was in another movie.
00:18:43.150 --> 00:18:44.300
That's what I dug up on it.
00:18:45.620 --> 00:18:47.210
Jon: If it was Army of
Darkness, it might have,
00:18:47.350 --> 00:18:47.470
Kearns: in this."
00:18:47.550 --> 00:18:50.680
Jon: she might have been in
Single White Female at the time
00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:52.120
Kearns: It could have been.
00:18:52.320 --> 00:18:52.580
That, I
00:18:52.691 --> 00:18:53.021
Ryan: Oh, okay
00:18:53.040 --> 00:18:54.310
Kearns: breakout movie for her.
00:18:54.868 --> 00:18:55.158
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:18:55.420 --> 00:18:57.070
Kearns: and the one
where she's a hit woman.
00:18:57.828 --> 00:18:58.418
Jon: Yeah
00:18:58.980 --> 00:18:59.910
Kearns: I forgot the name of it.
00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:00.370
That's another
00:19:00.419 --> 00:19:03.639
Ryan: Imag- imagine if she was the
lead actress in Army of Darkness.
00:19:03.709 --> 00:19:04.049
That would've
00:19:04.094 --> 00:19:07.384
Jon: Was that, was that Le,
was that La Femme Nikita?
00:19:08.452 --> 00:19:08.882
Kearns: No, La Femme
00:19:09.327 --> 00:19:09.487
Ryan: No.
00:19:09.542 --> 00:19:10.932
Kearns: was a different one.
00:19:11.037 --> 00:19:11.437
Ryan: Besson.
00:19:11.552 --> 00:19:11.562
Kearns: a
00:19:11.730 --> 00:19:15.290
Jon: I, yeah, I can see the cover.
00:19:15.882 --> 00:19:17.022
Kearns: Nikita is basically the same
00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:17.740
Jon: Yeah.
00:19:18.300 --> 00:19:19.540
I can see the cover.
00:19:19.540 --> 00:19:20.910
I can't pull the movie out
00:19:22.043 --> 00:19:24.663
Ryan: See, my problem is I'm just
thinking of Pam Anderson in her
00:19:24.663 --> 00:19:27.493
film at that time, where she plays,
00:19:28.806 --> 00:19:30.976
Jon: Oh yeah, the, the action one?
00:19:31.193 --> 00:19:31.723
Ryan: Yeah.
00:19:31.763 --> 00:19:31.933
Is
00:19:31.956 --> 00:19:33.736
Jon: Barb Wire, yeah, yeah
00:19:35.248 --> 00:19:35.528
Kearns: Womp, womp,
00:19:35.964 --> 00:19:36.034
Jon: Yeah.
00:19:36.958 --> 00:19:37.588
Kearns: Uh,
00:19:37.644 --> 00:19:38.974
Jon: was a little later though.
00:19:39.291 --> 00:19:40.111
Ryan: 97?
00:19:40.864 --> 00:19:41.464
Jon: Yeah.
00:19:41.608 --> 00:19:42.098
Kearns: rental.
00:19:42.298 --> 00:19:42.478
That
00:19:42.534 --> 00:19:42.794
Jon: she wa-
00:19:42.828 --> 00:19:43.568
Kearns: the boys
00:19:44.264 --> 00:19:47.784
Jon: it- th- this was more
about the, Snapdragon time
00:19:49.042 --> 00:19:49.892
Kearns: Exactly.
00:19:49.937 --> 00:19:52.767
the last Easter egg I noticed because
I noticed this one in the wild.
00:19:52.767 --> 00:19:53.767
I was so proud of myself.
00:19:53.767 --> 00:19:55.217
Did you guys see the one in the pizza box?
00:19:57.070 --> 00:19:57.630
Ryan: Pineapple?
00:19:57.659 --> 00:19:58.099
Jon: No.
00:19:58.719 --> 00:19:59.199
No
00:19:59.605 --> 00:20:01.765
Kearns: the catchphrase on the
pizza box says, "Come get some."
00:20:02.180 --> 00:20:02.470
Ryan: Oh,
00:20:02.531 --> 00:20:03.371
Jon: Oh, nice.
00:20:03.371 --> 00:20:04.311
I didn't see that.
00:20:04.421 --> 00:20:05.991
I did see it, but like,
00:20:06.163 --> 00:20:06.563
Kearns: Yeah, you didn't
00:20:06.721 --> 00:20:07.681
Jon: yeah, yeah.
00:20:07.703 --> 00:20:08.703
Kearns: was like, "Oh my God. Oh my God."
00:20:10.331 --> 00:20:13.501
Jon: yeah, I mean, you get the,
landscaping truck, so you, know that
00:20:13.511 --> 00:20:15.481
there's gonna be a chainsaw around.
00:20:15.490 --> 00:20:15.830
Ryan: Yeah
00:20:16.041 --> 00:20:20.561
Jon: you get the continuation of w-
probably one of my favorite series
00:20:20.561 --> 00:20:25.541
of Easter eggs is the continuation of
the love for between, Nightmare on Elm
00:20:25.541 --> 00:20:29.551
Street and The Evil Dead series with
the neighbor kids coming to invite
00:20:29.561 --> 00:20:33.751
Bridget to watch all the Nightmare on
Elm Streets with them, even the bad ones.
00:20:34.281 --> 00:20:37.951
And then the, the other kid,
"Yeah, there's no bad ones." I
00:20:37.951 --> 00:20:39.411
mean, there are, but we won't
00:20:39.803 --> 00:20:40.213
Kearns: Yeah.
00:20:41.004 --> 00:20:41.814
Ryan: That's for another day
00:20:42.003 --> 00:20:43.363
Kearns: of when that scene hits?
00:20:47.135 --> 00:20:47.725
Jon: Hmm.
00:20:48.135 --> 00:20:49.015
Yeah, yeah.
00:20:49.101 --> 00:20:49.761
Kearns: would be the guy to
00:20:49.775 --> 00:20:50.975
Jon: Yeah, yeah.
00:20:51.141 --> 00:20:51.571
Kearns: of them back to
00:20:51.615 --> 00:20:52.945
Jon: Yeah, yeah
00:20:53.251 --> 00:20:53.371
Kearns: Be
00:20:53.488 --> 00:20:54.468
Ryan: Oh, hell yeah.
00:20:54.631 --> 00:20:54.981
Kearns: That's it."
00:20:55.288 --> 00:20:59.088
Ryan: Uh, we, uh, once you get into it
though, I won't even show the remake.
00:20:59.718 --> 00:21:01.438
won't go that far, and I own it
00:21:01.499 --> 00:21:01.889
Kearns: my
00:21:02.193 --> 00:21:03.883
Jon: No, you can't go th- that far.
00:21:04.228 --> 00:21:04.348
Ryan: I,
00:21:04.593 --> 00:21:05.663
Jon: That's too far
00:21:05.788 --> 00:21:07.628
Ryan: I'll just say Jackie Earl Haley's.
00:21:07.819 --> 00:21:08.289
Kearns: in a row
00:21:08.408 --> 00:21:10.218
Ryan: There's eight, eight in a row.
00:21:10.239 --> 00:21:11.249
Kearns: Plus the remake?
00:21:11.478 --> 00:21:13.748
Ryan: Eight and nine with the
rem- I wouldn't even show the
00:21:13.748 --> 00:21:15.288
re- the remake is like if…
00:21:15.529 --> 00:21:16.369
Kearns: 24 hours.
00:21:16.508 --> 00:21:19.798
Ryan: Oh, it's… No, they're
only like 80 minutes a pop.
00:21:19.848 --> 00:21:20.588
They're not that long.
00:21:21.478 --> 00:21:22.448
85 minutes
00:21:22.489 --> 00:21:22.899
Kearns: Oh, sorry.
00:21:22.899 --> 00:21:26.639
So we'll just be sitting in the same
room for 14 watching Nightmare on
00:21:26.792 --> 00:21:27.272
Ryan: you might
00:21:27.545 --> 00:21:27.835
Jon: It's fine
00:21:28.032 --> 00:21:28.752
Ryan: the second one.
00:21:28.972 --> 00:21:29.712
That's about it.
00:21:30.899 --> 00:21:31.629
Jon: I don't know.
00:21:31.859 --> 00:21:37.759
I ge- generally, generally, unless
I'm feeling very completist, one,
00:21:37.769 --> 00:21:39.709
three, and, uh, New Nightmare.
00:21:41.459 --> 00:21:42.969
Generally my rotation
00:21:43.963 --> 00:21:45.093
Kearns: New Nightmare was very good
00:21:46.138 --> 00:21:47.278
Ryan: New Night, yeah.
00:21:47.338 --> 00:21:48.208
I mean, though
00:21:48.323 --> 00:21:49.223
Kearns: was very good.
00:21:50.088 --> 00:21:50.118
Ryan: some,
00:21:50.233 --> 00:21:50.373
Kearns: that
00:21:50.478 --> 00:21:50.768
Ryan: yeah.
00:21:51.938 --> 00:21:53.118
94, God
00:21:53.513 --> 00:21:53.783
Kearns: in the theater as a kid.
00:21:53.783 --> 00:21:54.423
Remember the tongue that
comes out of the phone?
00:21:56.604 --> 00:21:56.994
Ryan: Heather.
00:21:57.053 --> 00:21:57.593
Kearns: was pretty good.
00:21:58.014 --> 00:21:58.534
Ryan: I don't know
00:21:58.983 --> 00:22:01.843
Kearns: flip out on a bunch of kids
too, 'cause they kept screaming stuff
00:22:01.843 --> 00:22:05.673
to scare people in the theater, and this
giant guy stood up, turned around, and
00:22:05.845 --> 00:22:09.845
Jon: Nice.
00:22:09.993 --> 00:22:13.453
Kearns: he looked too, and he's just
like, "Oh my God, they're gonna die.
00:22:13.473 --> 00:22:14.203
This is great."
00:22:14.578 --> 00:22:14.868
Ryan: I was,
00:22:14.935 --> 00:22:15.465
Jon: Nice.
00:22:15.503 --> 00:22:16.173
Kearns: It was a good experience.
00:22:16.798 --> 00:22:20.528
Ryan: I was gonna say I have to,
I enjoy them all, um, one through,
00:22:20.578 --> 00:22:24.188
uh, one up to New Nightmare, and
even with Freddy versus Jason.
00:22:24.488 --> 00:22:26.128
I feel like it's 'cause of my dad.
00:22:26.168 --> 00:22:27.408
My dad was a big Nightmare on
00:22:27.571 --> 00:22:27.831
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:22:28.578 --> 00:22:32.688
Ryan: He, like Nightmare on Elm
Street in his house was big.
00:22:32.698 --> 00:22:34.328
He had the cutout board.
00:22:34.338 --> 00:22:35.678
He had everything Nightmare.
00:22:36.028 --> 00:22:39.228
And then on the other side was
Hellraiser, so that explains a lot
00:22:39.228 --> 00:22:41.078
of my love for those two franchises.
00:22:41.468 --> 00:22:41.728
But I
00:22:41.823 --> 00:22:45.823
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:22:46.178 --> 00:22:47.668
Ryan: the Freddy Krueger character.
00:22:48.163 --> 00:22:48.523
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:22:48.748 --> 00:22:52.808
Ryan: like yeah, you can see it as
a repeat of like it's a nightmare,
00:22:52.808 --> 00:22:54.408
it's a dream, he keeps coming back.
00:22:54.408 --> 00:22:55.428
How does he come back?
00:22:55.438 --> 00:22:56.238
It's recycled.
00:22:56.578 --> 00:23:00.568
But you get more of the mentality
of the character and the
00:23:00.568 --> 00:23:01.848
characters he's going after.
00:23:02.773 --> 00:23:06.668
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:23:06.668 --> 00:23:10.543
Mm-hmm.
00:23:11.893 --> 00:23:13.913
So I, I wanna
00:23:14.331 --> 00:23:14.801
Kearns: everybody.
00:23:14.811 --> 00:23:17.141
If you have any questions,
I'll give you his phone number.
00:23:17.151 --> 00:23:19.141
You can call him, ask him
anything you want about it.
00:23:19.346 --> 00:23:21.686
Ryan: You ha- you have,
you have to say the rhyme
00:23:22.595 --> 00:23:26.565
Jon: So, s- so, uh, like with this sort
of longstanding Evil Dead/Nightmare on
00:23:26.565 --> 00:23:32.575
Elm Street mutual admiration situation,
goes back to the first Evil Dead.
00:23:33.645 --> 00:23:38.135
Um, if, if you watch the first Evil
Dead, there… And at one point
00:23:38.145 --> 00:23:42.215
there's a poster on the wall for The
Hills Have Eyes, which is Wes Craven.
00:23:42.578 --> 00:23:42.858
Ryan: Yep.
00:23:43.295 --> 00:23:45.155
Jon: So Craven noticed that.
00:23:46.405 --> 00:23:51.555
In n- the first Nightmare on Elm Street,
Nancy, when she's trying to stay awake,
00:23:51.645 --> 00:23:56.235
which mirrors something that Ash is gonna
have to do a lot too, she's trying to
00:23:56.235 --> 00:23:58.875
stay awake by watching The Evil Dead.
00:24:00.235 --> 00:24:05.805
So then you jump to Evil
Dead, and even in Ash vs.
00:24:05.815 --> 00:24:11.515
the Evil Dead, when Ash goes to
the shed to, you know, weaponize
00:24:11.515 --> 00:24:15.475
himself with his chainsaw, hanging
on the wall is Freddy's glove
00:24:17.113 --> 00:24:17.833
Kearns: Oh, I never noticed
00:24:18.162 --> 00:24:19.692
Ryan: In Evil Dead 2, right?
00:24:20.227 --> 00:24:22.607
Jon: Evil Dead 2 and in Ash vs Evil Dead
00:24:23.034 --> 00:24:23.624
Ryan: Okay.
00:24:24.464 --> 00:24:26.304
Necro Comicon also makes an
00:24:26.661 --> 00:24:27.121
Jon: mm-hmm.
00:24:27.164 --> 00:24:28.274
Ryan: Goes to Hell, by the way.
00:24:28.461 --> 00:24:29.261
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:24:29.261 --> 00:24:29.901
We'll get to that.
00:24:29.921 --> 00:24:30.431
Um,
00:24:30.744 --> 00:24:31.044
Ryan: Word
00:24:31.511 --> 00:24:34.371
Jon: and then, then you have
comic book crossovers that then,
00:24:34.381 --> 00:24:39.051
then sort of tie Jason into it.
00:24:39.250 --> 00:24:39.620
Ryan: Yep
00:24:39.891 --> 00:24:43.561
Jon: But so what I'm gonna ask you,
and this sort of goes back to Evil Dead
00:24:43.561 --> 00:24:49.341
Rise and Lee Cronin's The Mummy, which
Lee Cronin made after he made Evil Dead
00:24:49.341 --> 00:24:54.421
Rise, and he has insisted is within
the same universe as The Evil Dead.
00:24:55.521 --> 00:24:57.931
Does that make a movie
in the same universe?
00:24:59.261 --> 00:25:00.991
Or is this just an Easter egg?
00:25:01.675 --> 00:25:03.565
Kearns: I think that
they're different things.
00:25:03.785 --> 00:25:06.935
Yeah, in this case, I can't say
definitively either way, but I think
00:25:07.029 --> 00:25:07.149
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:25:07.219 --> 00:25:10.469
Mm-hmm.
00:25:11.235 --> 00:25:14.305
Kearns: there are Easter eggs in
films for things like appreciation of
00:25:14.305 --> 00:25:17.315
other films, and there is something
about being in the same universe.
00:25:17.315 --> 00:25:20.315
I don't know if we could say that
these are in the same universe as, as
00:25:20.315 --> 00:25:21.805
Nightmare on Elm Street, for example
00:25:22.677 --> 00:25:23.397
Jon: Yeah.
00:25:23.427 --> 00:25:28.767
I, I mean, I think what's established
through this is that they, their
00:25:28.777 --> 00:25:34.677
universes each include those movies
within them, but not necessarily
00:25:34.677 --> 00:25:40.347
that the events in Nightmare on Elm
Street are happening in the same
00:25:40.347 --> 00:25:42.737
universe as the events in The Evil Dead
00:25:43.769 --> 00:25:43.939
Kearns: Yeah.
00:25:44.718 --> 00:25:44.928
Ryan: Here
00:25:45.009 --> 00:25:48.529
Kearns: I buy that more than…
I nothing to say that they're not
00:25:48.539 --> 00:25:50.989
in the same universe really, but
00:25:51.023 --> 00:25:51.463
Jon: No.
00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:53.929
Kearns: nothing to say that Godzilla's
not in their same universe either.
00:25:54.253 --> 00:25:54.663
Jon: Yeah
00:25:54.722 --> 00:25:56.442
Ryan: That's a, that's,
that's a far limb, buddy.
00:25:57.192 --> 00:25:58.472
a-- There's no Godzilla.
00:25:58.679 --> 00:25:59.289
Jon: I mean, you,
00:25:59.347 --> 00:25:59.737
Kearns: around.
00:25:59.827 --> 00:26:00.017
He's
00:26:00.199 --> 00:26:03.269
Jon: but you can, you can make
that case with a lot of things.
00:26:03.269 --> 00:26:06.869
Like, i- if the same actors are
in mo- s- a whole bunch of movies,
00:26:06.879 --> 00:26:08.229
are they the same universe?
00:26:08.459 --> 00:26:08.829
Kearns: Right
00:26:09.199 --> 00:26:15.449
Jon: like we were saying before we
started, is Footloose and the first
00:26:15.459 --> 00:26:17.619
Friday the 13th the same universe?
00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:19.400
Ryan: believe people think that, but kudos
00:26:19.579 --> 00:26:20.159
Jon: They don't.
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:21.819
They, they don't think that.
00:26:21.829 --> 00:26:28.539
It, but it's just, it's just a, a, an
over-the-top example of that concept.
00:26:28.749 --> 00:26:29.549
And for me,
00:26:29.615 --> 00:26:29.645
Kearns: What,
00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:31.979
Jon: I watched Lee Cronin's The Mummy.
00:26:32.435 --> 00:26:32.925
Kearns: are talking
00:26:32.959 --> 00:26:33.399
Jon: Yeah.
00:26:33.909 --> 00:26:38.339
I watched Lee Cronin's The Mummy
yesterday, and that, to me, that
00:26:38.339 --> 00:26:44.029
was the extent of the connection, is
there's a voice in a recording that's
00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:49.269
the same as the voice in the recording
on the records that Danny finds.
00:26:49.749 --> 00:26:53.709
And I don't know if you guys caught
this, Bruce Campbell's appearance in
00:26:53.709 --> 00:26:55.929
The Evil Dead Rise is on those records
00:26:56.248 --> 00:26:56.888
Kearns: Yeah.
00:26:56.895 --> 00:26:57.775
Ryan: He's one of the priests,
00:26:57.948 --> 00:26:59.228
Kearns: catch that in the wild.
00:26:59.838 --> 00:27:00.968
I did catch
00:27:01.127 --> 00:27:02.497
Jon: He, mm-hmm
00:27:02.828 --> 00:27:07.038
Kearns: eggs were all squared away, and
I f- I learned about that Easter egg.
00:27:07.038 --> 00:27:07.148
It's
00:27:07.303 --> 00:27:07.913
Jon: His, he,
00:27:07.978 --> 00:27:08.588
Kearns: in the record
00:27:08.863 --> 00:27:11.893
Jon: he, he's the, he's the voice
saying, "Burn the book, it's
00:27:11.893 --> 00:27:13.023
evil," or wh- you know, yeah.
00:27:14.103 --> 00:27:14.913
That's Bruce
00:27:15.515 --> 00:27:15.615
Ryan: Oh.
00:27:16.165 --> 00:27:17.255
The, okay.
00:27:18.085 --> 00:27:19.245
it was one of the priests
00:27:20.376 --> 00:27:20.986
Kearns: Pretty cool, right?
00:27:21.443 --> 00:27:26.363
Ryan: Well, it would make sense with all
the journey he's gone because, I mean, I
00:27:26.363 --> 00:27:30.933
mean, Evil… Not to bring up Evil Dead
2013, but the best part is his cameo,
00:27:31.163 --> 00:27:35.483
and like the idea is there's multiple
universes, and that's what kinda like
00:27:35.493 --> 00:27:37.683
Sam Raimi established in interviews.
00:27:38.683 --> 00:27:42.993
like it could just be Ash traveling
through universes or something
00:27:42.993 --> 00:27:44.683
and it got caught on the record.
00:27:45.843 --> 00:27:45.943
I
00:27:46.073 --> 00:27:46.193
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:27:46.553 --> 00:27:47.903
Ryan: if we can step back real quick,
00:27:47.970 --> 00:27:49.840
Kearns: Well, can we clarify
that real quick though?
00:27:49.840 --> 00:27:52.820
There's multiple universes
within the Evil Dead franchise?
00:27:52.825 --> 00:27:54.175
Ryan: So evil dead, evil
00:27:54.320 --> 00:27:56.390
Kearns: about the three different
Necronomicons within the
00:27:56.459 --> 00:27:56.949
Ryan: No.
00:27:56.959 --> 00:28:02.299
So Evil Dead, uh, Evil Dead 2, Evil
Dead: Army of Darkness, and Ash vs.
00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:03.579
Evil Dead's one universe.
00:28:03.749 --> 00:28:08.649
The Evil Dead 2013's a separate
universe, and I believe this new
00:28:08.729 --> 00:28:11.289
trilogy is a separate universe as well.
00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:13.919
However, the book connects them all.
00:28:14.199 --> 00:28:18.759
Originally, what they were supposed
to do after the 2013 one was connect
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:23.919
Ash to that, but because of the
negative reviews, they never went
00:28:23.919 --> 00:28:26.109
forward, and that's why we have Rice
00:28:27.060 --> 00:28:27.610
Kearns: Got it.
00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:28.110
All right.
00:28:28.110 --> 00:28:28.290
That's
00:28:28.329 --> 00:28:28.909
Jon: what you're
00:28:28.940 --> 00:28:29.390
Kearns: Lore.
00:28:29.790 --> 00:28:30.290
Good to know
00:28:31.015 --> 00:28:35.705
Jon: What you're telling me ba- the way
I'm interpreting this, the first two Evil
00:28:35.995 --> 00:28:40.785
Deads, Army of Darkness, Ash Versus the
Evil Dead are like Halloween one and two.
00:28:41.465 --> 00:28:44.515
Evil Dead 2013 is Halloween III.
00:28:45.751 --> 00:28:46.511
Ryan: Yes.
00:28:46.901 --> 00:28:47.241
Yes
00:28:47.565 --> 00:28:51.295
Jon: this new trilogy is everything
that comes after Halloween III
00:28:52.569 --> 00:28:53.799
Ryan: You nailed it right on the head,
00:28:54.053 --> 00:28:54.393
Jon: Okay.
00:28:54.620 --> 00:28:55.260
Kearns: Yeah.
00:28:55.613 --> 00:28:59.623
Jon: So it was, it was, so it me-
it means we may be in for some tough
00:28:59.623 --> 00:29:01.573
times with the Evil Dead franchise
00:29:02.840 --> 00:29:03.440
Kearns: For real,
00:29:03.769 --> 00:29:04.169
Ryan: But,
00:29:04.420 --> 00:29:04.980
Kearns: For real
00:29:05.199 --> 00:29:09.049
Ryan: you guys, when we were talking
about, um, interpretation, Tarantino
00:29:09.049 --> 00:29:11.739
said something perfect, and it was
about his own films, of course.
00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:17.909
Like, whenever you watch Pulp Fiction and
the briefcase is open, you see the gold.
00:29:18.299 --> 00:29:19.799
We all make the interpretation.
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.399
Like, for me, I think it's
Marsalis Wallace's soul.
00:29:23.459 --> 00:29:23.989
You know?
00:29:25.179 --> 00:29:29.319
That's what kinda like he's doing with
The Mummy, and what a lot of people
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:33.809
do is allows audiences to determine
if something is connected or not,
00:29:34.069 --> 00:29:37.229
which I have a lot of respect, and
it kinda gives the audience control.
00:29:37.429 --> 00:29:43.459
Now, I don't think The Mummy's connected
to The Evil Dead at all, but some people
00:29:43.459 --> 00:29:45.849
might go, "It is because of the voice."
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:49.209
And even with the Kevin Bacon thing
with Footloose and Friday the 13th.
00:29:49.379 --> 00:29:50.549
I'm trying to make it a thing now.
00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:51.199
You
00:29:51.357 --> 00:29:51.367
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:29:51.509 --> 00:29:53.929
Ryan: he, he left the town
and he went to camping.
00:29:55.079 --> 00:30:00.489
But it's, it's just fun stuff for
the audience to make that connection.
00:30:00.789 --> 00:30:03.599
But there are legitimate
ones, like Michael Keaton's
00:30:03.619 --> 00:30:04.889
character in Jackie Brown.
00:30:05.729 --> 00:30:09.039
character, the same character appears
in another movie I think two years
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:10.489
later from a different director
00:30:10.728 --> 00:30:13.648
Kearns: that's interlocking the movies
in the same universe when they do
00:30:13.755 --> 00:30:14.175
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:30:14.545 --> 00:30:15.035
Yeah.
00:30:15.171 --> 00:30:15.401
Ryan: But
00:30:15.608 --> 00:30:15.868
Kearns: There's a
00:30:15.941 --> 00:30:16.211
Ryan: cool
00:30:16.558 --> 00:30:18.838
Kearns: that and the same
actor playing a character of
00:30:18.875 --> 00:30:19.465
Jon: Yeah.
00:30:19.708 --> 00:30:19.808
Kearns: in
00:30:19.855 --> 00:30:20.305
Jon: Yeah.
00:30:20.938 --> 00:30:22.598
Kearns: That's what I'm trying
to make sure we don't get
00:30:22.598 --> 00:30:24.018
caught in the soundbite of
00:30:24.525 --> 00:30:25.015
Jon: Mm-hmm
00:30:25.068 --> 00:30:30.238
Kearns: like, "Every movie Kevin
Bacon's in is in the same universe." No
00:30:30.741 --> 00:30:32.521
Jon: I, what do you mean no?
00:30:32.611 --> 00:30:32.671
Ryan: says this.
00:30:32.671 --> 00:30:33.391
It's a clone.
00:30:33.452 --> 00:30:34.792
Kearns: Mystic River is
00:30:34.941 --> 00:30:35.651
Jon: Yeah.
00:30:35.952 --> 00:30:36.512
Kearns: universe
00:30:36.851 --> 00:30:40.271
Jon: he sur- he survived the arrow
through the neck and that's where he went.
00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:41.340
Kearns: that's where he went.
00:30:41.781 --> 00:30:42.281
Jon: Yeah.
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:42.790
Kearns: agent
00:30:43.001 --> 00:30:43.441
Ryan: Yeah, to
00:30:43.671 --> 00:30:48.011
Jon: Then, and that's why, that's why
he can see ghosts in Stir of Echoes
00:30:49.794 --> 00:30:52.151
Kearns: Out of out stereo that
goes Don't forget it becomes
00:30:52.151 --> 00:30:53.541
invisible at one point too.
00:30:53.607 --> 00:30:54.167
Jon: Uh-huh.
00:30:54.367 --> 00:30:54.707
Yeah.
00:30:55.147 --> 00:30:55.507
Yeah
00:30:56.211 --> 00:30:56.571
Kearns: All right.
00:30:56.601 --> 00:30:57.921
Don't we- do we have a game tonight?
00:30:57.921 --> 00:30:58.071
Let's
00:30:58.191 --> 00:31:00.471
Jon: Of cour- of course we have a game.
00:31:00.471 --> 00:31:03.711
It, it's a, we're back to
our standard slasher stash.
00:31:03.951 --> 00:31:06.761
It's gonna be, um, five and five.
00:31:06.821 --> 00:31:08.131
Uh, three and five rather.
00:31:08.280 --> 00:31:09.720
Ryan: I was like, "Wait a minute, we're
00:31:10.051 --> 00:31:11.021
Jon: Three and five.
00:31:11.101 --> 00:31:12.511
Oh, I forgot to open them.
00:31:12.611 --> 00:31:13.601
Close your eyes, guys
00:31:14.603 --> 00:31:15.343
Kearns: Ha ha.
00:31:15.563 --> 00:31:16.123
I will not.
00:31:16.430 --> 00:31:17.020
Ryan: I'm not.
00:31:17.151 --> 00:31:18.791
Jon: Oh, well, well then fine.
00:31:19.143 --> 00:31:19.633
Kearns: Damn.
00:31:19.863 --> 00:31:21.413
I just saw some good stuff there.
00:31:22.331 --> 00:31:28.511
Jon: yeah, you saw, you saw a download
screen my… Nothing actually.
00:31:29.041 --> 00:31:30.091
Uh, I don't need that
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.279
All right, now we'll re-share for you.
00:31:36.249 --> 00:31:36.579
Kearns: Okay.
00:31:36.809 --> 00:31:40.759
You, I lost Ryan's feed too when you, when
you did that, which makes it even funnier.
00:31:40.769 --> 00:31:42.029
So now I'm just alone
00:31:43.598 --> 00:31:43.768
Ryan: No,
00:31:43.829 --> 00:31:44.089
Jon: All right
00:31:45.965 --> 00:31:47.215
Kearns: No, but I
couldn't see you until he
00:31:47.348 --> 00:31:47.608
Ryan: Oh.
00:31:47.795 --> 00:31:48.275
Kearns: Okay
00:31:48.943 --> 00:31:49.283
Jon: All right.
00:31:49.463 --> 00:31:51.763
Can you guys see my screen?
00:31:51.893 --> 00:31:52.893
Kearns: All right, are we doing,
00:31:53.433 --> 00:31:54.393
Jon: It is themed.
00:31:54.553 --> 00:31:55.513
You can guess
00:31:57.699 --> 00:31:57.919
It's, uh,
00:31:58.293 --> 00:31:59.193
Kearns: Crappy remakes.
00:32:00.179 --> 00:32:02.909
Jon: uh, it's, it's a nice,
it's a nice, nice guess.
00:32:02.909 --> 00:32:04.599
It is not, however, correct.
00:32:04.809 --> 00:32:10.469
I'm not gonna punish you, but, 'cause
this li- ke- stashing some of these movies
00:32:10.489 --> 00:32:17.779
might be punishment of its- in its- in
itself, so… Anyway, The Crow , 2024.
00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:19.899
Are we slashing or stashing?
00:32:19.937 --> 00:32:20.997
Kearns: gonna slash this.
00:32:21.399 --> 00:32:21.689
Jon: Uh
00:32:21.967 --> 00:32:23.827
Kearns: he's holding
a katana on the cover.
00:32:23.827 --> 00:32:26.387
I'm s- I wish I could slash
everything about this movie
00:32:26.596 --> 00:32:29.916
Ryan: You know what makes me sad is
the author, 'cause I got to meet him.
00:32:29.996 --> 00:32:34.546
Um, he was so hopeful for this
remake, 'cause he was like, "They're
00:32:34.546 --> 00:32:38.846
gonna take my vision and make it
what it is." And I'm like, "No, the
00:32:38.846 --> 00:32:44.086
closest you're gonna get it, and the
definite one is Brandon Lee." Just
00:32:44.305 --> 00:32:46.195
Jon: I, this is not,
00:32:46.393 --> 00:32:46.813
Kearns: the, you
00:32:46.965 --> 00:32:48.255
Jon: this is not my crow.
00:32:48.713 --> 00:32:50.503
Kearns: The Crow was forged in sorrow.
00:32:51.273 --> 00:32:51.693
No.
00:32:51.803 --> 00:32:52.223
Yeah, good
00:32:52.275 --> 00:32:52.485
Jon: This,
00:32:52.493 --> 00:32:52.883
Kearns: Not my
00:32:52.964 --> 00:32:53.244
Ryan: Yep.
00:32:53.565 --> 00:32:54.705
Jon: this is not my crow.
00:32:54.885 --> 00:32:55.205
All right
00:32:55.293 --> 00:32:56.143
Kearns: Even the kids
don't like this movie
00:32:56.494 --> 00:32:57.954
Ryan: No, it's
00:32:58.009 --> 00:33:05.559
Jon: All right, movie, movie number two
is Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning
00:33:09.625 --> 00:33:10.365
Kearns: That's the thing, bro
00:33:12.996 --> 00:33:14.096
Ryan: The fifth part in a movie?
00:33:15.047 --> 00:33:16.077
Jon: It is the fifth part.
00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:16.559
Kearns: Hey, but
00:33:16.677 --> 00:33:18.347
Jon: These are all part fives.
00:33:18.747 --> 00:33:20.167
That's the fifth Crow movie.
00:33:20.627 --> 00:33:22.077
That's the fifth Crow movie.
00:33:22.527 --> 00:33:23.037
Yep.
00:33:23.177 --> 00:33:24.177
Yep.
00:33:24.439 --> 00:33:24.659
Kearns: How did
00:33:24.687 --> 00:33:25.977
Jon: That's the fifth Crow
00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:28.240
Ryan: part Friday 13th, part five.
00:33:28.459 --> 00:33:30.789
Jon: he, he got it from this one for sure
00:33:32.580 --> 00:33:36.410
Ryan: But then you think about it, Evil
Dead, Evil Dead II, Army of Darkness,
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.450
Evil Dead 2013, Rise is the fifth,
00:33:39.677 --> 00:33:39.857
Kearns: was
00:33:39.870 --> 00:33:40.400
Ryan: and
00:33:40.513 --> 00:33:43.833
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:33:44.780 --> 00:33:45.060
Ryan: I did.
00:33:45.090 --> 00:33:45.620
Wait, hold on.
00:33:45.660 --> 00:33:46.500
Do I get an extra…
00:33:46.567 --> 00:33:47.077
Kearns: saw part
00:33:47.300 --> 00:33:47.620
Ryan: What?
00:33:48.305 --> 00:33:48.765
Jon: No.
00:33:49.755 --> 00:33:51.785
No, there's no ex- We're not there.
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:52.510
Ryan: No.
00:33:53.045 --> 00:33:53.505
Jon: be- because,
00:33:53.687 --> 00:33:53.907
Kearns: night
00:33:53.995 --> 00:33:54.425
Jon: because
00:33:56.555 --> 00:34:01.295
I, I, I honestly, I think you're gonna
struggle to stash, you're both gonna
00:34:01.295 --> 00:34:03.265
struggle to stash three movies here.
00:34:03.805 --> 00:34:08.135
I'll tell you what, if you get,
if you, if you get stuck, I'll
00:34:08.135 --> 00:34:09.525
let you have the fourth one.
00:34:10.785 --> 00:34:12.195
But I don't think you're gonna want it
00:34:13.088 --> 00:34:15.498
Ryan: Yeah, but the thing is,
is I do enjoy f- the fifth.
00:34:15.498 --> 00:34:18.878
Like I do, I'm gonna stash part
five 'cause I do like part five.
00:34:19.218 --> 00:34:22.688
I think it's unique for Friday the 13th
and the direction they were taking it.
00:34:22.998 --> 00:34:27.098
But I do like Halloween 5, 'cause
it connects to the fourth one.
00:34:27.107 --> 00:34:28.547
Kearns: I doubt he's
gonna put that up here
00:34:28.578 --> 00:34:29.528
Ryan: He might have.
00:34:29.818 --> 00:34:30.458
He might have.
00:34:30.767 --> 00:34:31.177
Kearns: 5."
00:34:31.208 --> 00:34:32.798
Ryan: That's your, uh, the shoot scene.
00:34:32.997 --> 00:34:33.917
Kearns: "Halloween 4."
00:34:34.108 --> 00:34:34.508
Ryan: No,
00:34:34.537 --> 00:34:34.767
Kearns: five?
00:34:34.767 --> 00:34:34.807
I
00:34:34.808 --> 00:34:35.218
Ryan: that's f-
00:34:35.483 --> 00:34:37.753
Jon: No, four, four is
the one with Ted Hollister
00:34:37.927 --> 00:34:38.287
Kearns: scene.
00:34:38.387 --> 00:34:39.997
Yeah, four's the shoot scene
00:34:40.218 --> 00:34:45.888
Ryan: Uh, so real quick, I was, um,
back, um, I'm back in school, ladies and
00:34:45.888 --> 00:34:49.838
gentlemen, and, uh, to write papers I
have to have a movie on in the background.
00:34:49.838 --> 00:34:50.848
I always go with horror.
00:34:51.098 --> 00:34:54.348
So the first thing I did, and I was
gonna text you guys, but I was so
00:34:54.348 --> 00:34:58.508
busy typing, it was Halloween 4, and
the scene came on with, "Goddammit
00:34:58.518 --> 00:35:00.738
Earl, you shot Ted Hollister."
00:35:01.479 --> 00:35:01.959
Jon: And sh-
00:35:02.038 --> 00:35:02.388
Ryan: And I'm
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:03.279
Jon: yeah.
00:35:03.358 --> 00:35:04.168
Ryan: just laughing.
00:35:05.139 --> 00:35:07.099
Jon: Shit, Earl, it's Ted
00:35:07.818 --> 00:35:09.698
Ryan: Such an underrated sequel
00:35:09.749 --> 00:35:09.889
Jon: Hollister.
00:35:11.043 --> 00:35:11.373
Kearns: That's a
00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:11.839
Jon: All right.
00:35:12.489 --> 00:35:15.409
Kearns, stash or slash, slash
00:35:16.964 --> 00:35:20.304
Ryan: I'm not even gonna say blasphemy
'cause it's, it's not even the best,
00:35:20.304 --> 00:35:22.914
but it does something different, which I
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:23.449
Jon: All right.
00:35:24.339 --> 00:35:25.429
Movie number three.
00:35:25.485 --> 00:35:26.035
Kearns: Docking.
00:35:26.252 --> 00:35:26.492
Ryan: Oh,
00:35:26.669 --> 00:35:30.069
Jon: The Fly II from 1989.
00:35:30.125 --> 00:35:31.355
Kearns: the fifth in the Fly
00:35:31.619 --> 00:35:33.879
Jon: This is the fifth Fly movie
00:35:35.630 --> 00:35:37.590
Ryan: Vincent Price was
in the first two sequels.
00:35:37.701 --> 00:35:38.721
Kearns: stash this either.
00:35:38.731 --> 00:35:39.491
This is terrible
00:35:40.950 --> 00:35:44.720
Ryan: Is this the opening where she
gives birth to the baby fly too?
00:35:45.120 --> 00:35:45.990
Like they continue it
00:35:47.547 --> 00:35:49.837
Jon: I think, mm, I
don't, I don't remember.
00:35:50.027 --> 00:35:53.527
I remember they, I remember this
one had the song in the commercial.
00:35:54.277 --> 00:35:59.997
Uh, "Hush little baby, don't you cry
just because your dad was The Fly."
00:36:02.087 --> 00:36:03.287
It was amazing
00:36:03.605 --> 00:36:04.185
Kearns: Oh.
00:36:05.265 --> 00:36:07.245
If I'd known that jingle,
I might have stashed it.
00:36:07.895 --> 00:36:08.035
Oh.
00:36:08.819 --> 00:36:08.839
Jon: All
00:36:09.585 --> 00:36:09.875
Kearns: I am
00:36:10.009 --> 00:36:10.689
Jon: All right.
00:36:10.945 --> 00:36:11.425
Kearns: guys.
00:36:11.985 --> 00:36:13.095
Sorry for all the groaning.
00:36:13.125 --> 00:36:14.445
All right, let's see what's next
00:36:14.809 --> 00:36:15.509
Jon: Movie four.
00:36:16.259 --> 00:36:17.309
Rocky V
00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:19.120
Ryan: How many slashes is this?
00:36:19.567 --> 00:36:20.037
Kearns: I hate you.
00:36:20.037 --> 00:36:20.317
I'm gonna
00:36:20.455 --> 00:36:22.625
Jon: It's, it's three and five.
00:36:22.927 --> 00:36:23.527
Kearns: so much
00:36:23.716 --> 00:36:26.686
Ryan: It's, it's three
stashes, five slashes.
00:36:26.726 --> 00:36:27.126
Yeah, I'll
00:36:27.255 --> 00:36:27.635
Jon: Yep
00:36:28.046 --> 00:36:28.956
Ryan: V. I, I don't…
00:36:29.057 --> 00:36:29.597
Kearns: bad.
00:36:29.826 --> 00:36:30.136
Ryan: Don't
00:36:30.223 --> 00:36:31.153
Jon: I told you I,
00:36:31.186 --> 00:36:32.426
Ryan: Don't, don't sta-
00:36:32.523 --> 00:36:36.663
Jon: I, I think, I think by, by
the end of this list you're gonna
00:36:36.663 --> 00:36:38.783
be begging for extra slashes
00:36:39.458 --> 00:36:42.088
Ryan: What do you prefer,
this or Rocky Balboa?
00:36:43.338 --> 00:36:44.468
This or Rocky Balboa
00:36:45.139 --> 00:36:45.809
Kearns: Balboa compared this.
00:36:45.809 --> 00:36:45.819
I
00:36:46.155 --> 00:36:47.285
Jon: I liked more than this.
00:36:47.325 --> 00:36:47.955
The Rocky
00:36:48.169 --> 00:36:48.379
Kearns: he's
00:36:48.555 --> 00:36:49.315
Jon: just silly.
00:36:49.389 --> 00:36:50.369
Kearns: son in Balboa.
00:36:50.625 --> 00:36:51.075
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:36:52.329 --> 00:36:52.629
Kearns: It's
00:36:52.735 --> 00:36:53.165
Jon: But f-
00:36:53.879 --> 00:36:54.269
Kearns: Rocky
00:36:54.445 --> 00:36:54.565
Jon: for-
00:36:54.749 --> 00:36:58.679
Kearns: is the one that's, is better
than Rocky V, but it's like, yeah
00:37:00.843 --> 00:37:01.003
What are you
00:37:01.139 --> 00:37:02.909
Jon: I, it w- this is
another, this is another one.
00:37:02.909 --> 00:37:06.479
When I rewatch the Rocky movies,
I go, most of the time I go
00:37:06.479 --> 00:37:07.889
one through four and that's it.
00:37:07.929 --> 00:37:08.459
That's enough
00:37:10.905 --> 00:37:13.605
I almost never do five in Rocky Balboa.
00:37:13.751 --> 00:37:14.821
Kearns: It's, it's unnecessary
00:37:15.435 --> 00:37:17.745
Jon: I haven't seen the
last two Creed movies.
00:37:17.745 --> 00:37:19.045
I saw the first Creed.
00:37:21.125 --> 00:37:21.585
Okay
00:37:22.283 --> 00:37:24.573
Kearns: They, they chose the
worst person for him to fight
00:37:24.573 --> 00:37:26.043
in Balboa too, by the way.
00:37:26.693 --> 00:37:28.373
Um, Creed one is watchable.
00:37:28.373 --> 00:37:30.153
The rest of the Creed movies are garbage.
00:37:30.973 --> 00:37:31.683
I said it.
00:37:33.273 --> 00:37:33.533
Fight
00:37:33.607 --> 00:37:34.517
Jon: Didn't even bother.
00:37:34.722 --> 00:37:34.802
Ryan: I
00:37:34.837 --> 00:37:35.807
Jon: The, the, I
00:37:36.012 --> 00:37:37.132
Ryan: before I make an opinion
00:37:37.565 --> 00:37:37.745
Kearns: I'm not a
00:37:37.937 --> 00:37:38.357
Jon: The f…
00:37:38.695 --> 00:37:39.665
Kearns: fan either, really.
00:37:39.745 --> 00:37:40.185
He's not,
00:37:40.447 --> 00:37:42.077
Jon: We, we have established that.
00:37:42.195 --> 00:37:42.975
Kearns: Sinners episode
00:37:43.037 --> 00:37:44.547
Jon: We have established that.
00:37:45.484 --> 00:37:45.784
Ryan: man.
00:37:45.787 --> 00:37:46.247
Jon: All right.
00:37:46.727 --> 00:37:47.747
You guys ready to go on?
00:37:47.747 --> 00:37:48.987
Movie number five
00:37:49.727 --> 00:37:53.237
Kearns: We got left with Michael B.
Jordan because Chadwick Boseman died.
00:37:53.735 --> 00:37:54.025
Jon: Yep.
00:37:54.107 --> 00:37:54.467
Kearns: happened
00:37:54.914 --> 00:37:56.344
Ryan: Ah, but I'm gonna stash
00:37:56.555 --> 00:37:58.035
Jon: Nightmare on Elm Street 5
00:37:58.531 --> 00:37:59.991
Kearns: Dream Child I'll stash too.
00:38:00.772 --> 00:38:02.612
Ryan: Is that the dr- it
is the Dream Child, yep.
00:38:02.862 --> 00:38:05.522
'Cause it's Dream Warriors, Master, Child.
00:38:07.022 --> 00:38:11.412
This one had the, uh… Yeah,
there it is, the creepy, um, uh,
00:38:12.327 --> 00:38:12.797
Jon: Stroller?
00:38:13.162 --> 00:38:13.582
Ryan: There we go.
00:38:13.687 --> 00:38:14.067
Kearns: and net.
00:38:14.907 --> 00:38:15.417
stroller is better
00:38:16.547 --> 00:38:17.107
Jon: Buggy
00:38:17.372 --> 00:38:19.832
Ryan: This one, was this the
one where he crushes the girl
00:38:19.932 --> 00:38:21.812
in the bug, the bug thing?
00:38:22.203 --> 00:38:22.553
Kearns: Oh, I
00:38:22.729 --> 00:38:23.679
Jon: I don't remember.
00:38:23.693 --> 00:38:25.163
Kearns: he puts her…
She gets stuck on the fly
00:38:25.402 --> 00:38:26.332
Ryan: Yes
00:38:26.649 --> 00:38:27.129
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:38:27.223 --> 00:38:28.093
Kearns: that's a tough scene
00:38:28.589 --> 00:38:29.199
Jon: All right
00:38:29.718 --> 00:38:31.998
Ryan: and the baby having nightmares
00:38:32.783 --> 00:38:34.443
Jon: Movie number
00:38:34.909 --> 00:38:35.199
Kearns: Here
00:38:35.243 --> 00:38:35.753
Jon: six.
00:38:36.603 --> 00:38:37.813
There it is, Halloween 5
00:38:40.370 --> 00:38:40.910
Ryan: Stash.
00:38:41.780 --> 00:38:42.530
Stash.
00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:43.940
I'm fine with that.
00:38:43.951 --> 00:38:46.511
Kearns: actress in this, the little girl.
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:47.670
Ryan: Danielle Harris
00:38:47.701 --> 00:38:48.651
Kearns: uh, she's
00:38:48.893 --> 00:38:49.463
Jon: Harris.
00:38:49.821 --> 00:38:51.381
Kearns: uh, Full House and stuff too.
00:38:51.381 --> 00:38:52.681
That's her name, Danielle Harris.
00:38:52.991 --> 00:38:53.331
She's like
00:38:53.333 --> 00:38:53.713
Jon: Mm-hmm
00:38:53.951 --> 00:38:57.221
Kearns: friend that gets you into
trouble in a ton of t- TV shows.
00:38:57.871 --> 00:39:01.351
Jon: And she grew up to be the, yeah,
she grew up to be the badass one.
00:39:01.651 --> 00:39:03.021
Yeah, that rounds you out
00:39:05.191 --> 00:39:07.501
You have, Ryan, you, you have the option.
00:39:07.909 --> 00:39:08.069
Kearns: left
00:39:08.831 --> 00:39:10.491
Jon: Uh, I wouldn't be so sure.
00:39:10.501 --> 00:39:12.031
Movie number seven.
00:39:13.315 --> 00:39:13.705
Kearns: Son of a
00:39:13.771 --> 00:39:15.731
Jon: That's… Da- why
is that the wrong poster?
00:39:15.731 --> 00:39:17.091
That's not the poster I downloaded.
00:39:17.091 --> 00:39:17.851
It's Fanta- it's Phantasm
00:39:18.145 --> 00:39:19.045
Kearns: Lord of the Dead.
00:39:19.631 --> 00:39:23.411
Jon: have to get you guys the right
poster for when this actually comes out.
00:39:23.581 --> 00:39:25.341
Phantasm Ravager.
00:39:25.341 --> 00:39:26.111
Sorry, Kearns.
00:39:26.691 --> 00:39:29.711
Ryan, do, would you like
to exercise your extra-
00:39:32.218 --> 00:39:34.008
Ryan: But what's your last movie then?
00:39:34.057 --> 00:39:36.057
Kearns: Ravager over all my choices
00:39:36.868 --> 00:39:37.158
Ryan: know what?
00:39:37.168 --> 00:39:38.808
Yeah, I'm gonna stash Ravager.
00:39:38.898 --> 00:39:39.998
I love Phantasm.
00:39:40.238 --> 00:39:45.368
After we covered Phantasm, like
I understand now when they did
00:39:45.368 --> 00:39:48.968
a lot of reviews for the fifth
film, as we discussed, you have to
00:39:48.968 --> 00:39:51.008
be a fan to enjoy the last film.
00:39:51.348 --> 00:39:54.928
You have to enjoy all the
whole story to enjoy the
00:39:55.183 --> 00:39:55.583
Jon: All right.
00:39:56.473 --> 00:39:58.933
So movie number eight,
you both have slashed.
00:39:59.463 --> 00:40:03.833
I think you're probably both gonna
be a little disappointed because you
00:40:03.843 --> 00:40:06.643
have slashed Clint Eastwood's Deadpool
00:40:07.859 --> 00:40:07.999
Kearns: No way.
00:40:08.019 --> 00:40:09.839
Dirty Harry in the Deadpool?
00:40:10.019 --> 00:40:10.869
Oh my God.
00:40:11.844 --> 00:40:12.164
Ryan: So we
00:40:12.429 --> 00:40:12.449
Jon: Yeah.
00:40:12.734 --> 00:40:16.654
Ryan: Liam Neeson's career, we
eliminate Jim Carrey's career.
00:40:17.264 --> 00:40:18.514
you wanna know something though?
00:40:18.864 --> 00:40:20.834
Sudden Impact is a better
film than the Deadpool
00:40:22.087 --> 00:40:23.537
Jon: Uh, I mean, of course it is.
00:40:23.547 --> 00:40:29.427
It, they, I mean, the, the, I, I, I think
what we just discovered is that the first
00:40:29.427 --> 00:40:31.937
one is better than all of the part fives
00:40:33.059 --> 00:40:34.339
Kearns: Yeah, 100%.
00:40:35.789 --> 00:40:37.419
Oh, come on, find something to argue
00:40:37.518 --> 00:40:37.678
Ryan: Out
00:40:37.777 --> 00:40:38.787
Jon: We, yeah
00:40:38.908 --> 00:40:40.468
Ryan: out of, out of, hold on, hold on.
00:40:40.478 --> 00:40:43.138
Out of the Dirty Harry movies,
I think the best one is Magnum
00:40:43.138 --> 00:40:44.388
Force, which is the sequel
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:46.749
Jon: Okay, I mean, all right.
00:40:46.829 --> 00:40:47.929
Fair, fair enough.
00:40:48.149 --> 00:40:48.659
Fair enough.
00:40:48.659 --> 00:40:49.209
I, I,
00:40:49.233 --> 00:40:49.283
Kearns: are
00:40:49.489 --> 00:40:54.339
Jon: I, I, I, I will, I will amend,
I will amend my… No, I won't
00:40:54.349 --> 00:40:58.589
because the, because the state- the
statement stands is there is not a
00:40:58.589 --> 00:41:02.489
single one of these movies where part
five is better than the first one
00:41:04.900 --> 00:41:05.190
Ryan: Yeah.
00:41:05.190 --> 00:41:06.960
Oh yeah, you're f- okay, fair.
00:41:07.030 --> 00:41:07.860
Fair on that.
00:41:08.910 --> 00:41:09.310
Fair
00:41:09.503 --> 00:41:11.513
Kearns: put him on notice
about the same thing,
00:41:11.524 --> 00:41:11.994
Ryan: Fair.
00:41:12.414 --> 00:41:13.034
Fair.
00:41:13.483 --> 00:41:14.923
Kearns: you guys are missing again.
00:41:15.844 --> 00:41:15.984
Ryan: Oh,
00:41:16.103 --> 00:41:16.253
Jon: Uh-uh.
00:41:16.804 --> 00:41:17.534
Ryan: We can hear you.
00:41:18.014 --> 00:41:18.844
We can see you
00:41:19.843 --> 00:41:21.263
Kearns: without being able to see you.
00:41:21.263 --> 00:41:22.563
I forgot how I fix this.
00:41:23.743 --> 00:41:24.123
I think I
00:41:24.300 --> 00:41:26.030
Ryan: Oh y- um, corner?
00:41:27.380 --> 00:41:27.830
Yeah
00:41:28.533 --> 00:41:29.353
Kearns: Get the box.
00:41:29.353 --> 00:41:30.223
It's in the box.
00:41:30.233 --> 00:41:33.853
Speaker and then back out to gallery.
00:41:33.883 --> 00:41:34.310
Yeah.
00:41:34.933 --> 00:41:35.973
Um, all right.
00:41:35.983 --> 00:41:36.523
So
00:41:36.644 --> 00:41:37.184
Ryan: That was a good game
00:41:37.223 --> 00:41:39.993
Kearns: going to be
accelerating towards the end.
00:41:39.993 --> 00:41:40.613
It was a good game.
00:41:40.643 --> 00:41:42.033
Towards the end of this podcast.
00:41:42.663 --> 00:41:43.423
Jon: Yeah, I like that one
00:41:44.983 --> 00:41:47.903
Kearns: so this even an Evil Dead movie?
00:41:48.203 --> 00:41:50.793
Kinda talked about that, but is
this even an Evil Dead movie?
00:41:50.948 --> 00:41:51.488
Ryan: Yes
00:41:51.545 --> 00:41:56.285
Jon: Kind of, I guess,
I guess in, in a sense
00:41:57.491 --> 00:41:58.451
Kearns: Spiritually?
00:41:58.781 --> 00:41:59.621
It is.
00:41:59.661 --> 00:42:00.141
I think it
00:42:00.291 --> 00:42:03.561
Jon: Yeah, I mean, you,
have the core elements.
00:42:03.613 --> 00:42:04.773
I miss the campiness.
00:42:05.283 --> 00:42:05.853
I do.
00:42:05.873 --> 00:42:11.193
I, you know, I thi- I think we've
established my love for campy anything,
00:42:11.825 --> 00:42:11.835
Kearns: Mm-hmm.
00:42:12.143 --> 00:42:13.543
Jon: especially in horror
00:42:14.225 --> 00:42:17.595
Kearns: It's, hard to have an Evil
Dead movie without the camp, and this
00:42:17.595 --> 00:42:19.405
definitely does not have the camp.
00:42:19.609 --> 00:42:19.949
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:42:20.162 --> 00:42:20.402
Ryan: but
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:20.999
Jon: And I…
00:42:21.345 --> 00:42:22.125
Kearns: will have the camp.
00:42:22.125 --> 00:42:25.285
I think they're gonna go hard in
the paint again, trying to reimagine
00:42:25.295 --> 00:42:26.595
the franchise for the modern
00:42:26.649 --> 00:42:26.869
Jon: Mm-hmm
00:42:26.875 --> 00:42:28.685
Kearns: and I'm not sure
the kids are ready for it
00:42:28.762 --> 00:42:31.512
Ryan: Have you seen
the trailer for it yet?
00:42:31.902 --> 00:42:32.272
Yeah.
00:42:33.192 --> 00:42:36.132
the recent one where he goes on
the dishwasher with the knives.
00:42:36.342 --> 00:42:39.012
I mean, they're just going with
the whole gory aspect again and
00:42:39.012 --> 00:42:41.222
just taking it up to a notch.
00:42:41.652 --> 00:42:46.652
But the campiness, yeah, the campiness
is what made Evil Dead, but the first
00:42:46.652 --> 00:42:48.792
film is what established it as a horror.
00:42:49.492 --> 00:42:51.542
that's what it is, is
what we gotta remember.
00:42:51.542 --> 00:42:52.782
It's a, it's a horror film.
00:42:52.852 --> 00:42:56.082
I mean, yeah, the comedy adds
to that layer, but what Rise
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:56.609
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:42:56.609 --> 00:42:56.669
Mm-hmm.
00:42:56.792 --> 00:43:04.012
Ryan: that horror back with, which is not
over the line like 2013, in my opinion.
00:43:04.089 --> 00:43:05.189
Kearns: ask you, let
me ask you a question.
00:43:05.482 --> 00:43:05.682
Ryan: Yeah
00:43:06.489 --> 00:43:10.819
Kearns: a plain pizza pie, you get
olives on 30% of that pizza pie, is
00:43:10.819 --> 00:43:16.059
that the same as a pizza pie that has
nothing on it or just olives on it?
00:43:16.294 --> 00:43:17.794
Ryan: What is this, Monty
Python and the Holy Grail?
00:43:17.794 --> 00:43:19.174
Am I gonna jump off a bridge?
00:43:19.244 --> 00:43:19.694
Like, is
00:43:19.839 --> 00:43:20.799
Kearns: Is that the same thing?
00:43:21.029 --> 00:43:24.119
Would you be happy with the same
thing being brought to your door
00:43:24.230 --> 00:43:25.940
Ryan: I wouldn't want olives on my pizza.
00:43:25.979 --> 00:43:26.369
Kearns: If it had…
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:27.119
Jon: Yeah.
00:43:27.310 --> 00:43:27.540
Ryan: I wouldn't
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:28.859
Jon: I'd be, I'd be happy w-
00:43:28.979 --> 00:43:29.279
Kearns: Dead
00:43:29.359 --> 00:43:31.379
Jon: be happier with the 30% one.
00:43:33.359 --> 00:43:36.889
I'd be happier with 30%
olives than 100% olives
00:43:37.653 --> 00:43:41.043
Kearns: In Army of
Darkness, it's 70% olives.
00:43:41.753 --> 00:43:42.913
It's 70% olives.
00:43:42.923 --> 00:43:43.993
It's way more campy.
00:43:44.013 --> 00:43:44.703
So it's not the s-
00:43:44.795 --> 00:43:44.925
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:43:44.975 --> 00:43:46.315
Mm-hmm.
00:43:46.543 --> 00:43:51.433
Kearns: a, a major element that was
part of the movie out of it, which is
00:43:51.433 --> 00:43:53.283
what I think John's argument was too.
00:43:53.883 --> 00:43:54.083
And
00:43:54.275 --> 00:43:54.515
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:43:54.743 --> 00:43:56.833
Kearns: not to say… And I
understand what you're saying too.
00:43:56.923 --> 00:44:01.063
What they did, what their choice
was, was to go full-on horror, and
00:44:01.063 --> 00:44:04.053
even, like, make it even crazier than
anything that's coming out right now.
00:44:04.063 --> 00:44:05.803
Try to get real gritty with it.
00:44:06.983 --> 00:44:09.033
we're, we're kinda nostalgic.
00:44:09.033 --> 00:44:12.353
We missed a little bit of that campy vibe.
00:44:12.363 --> 00:44:12.783
They didn't even
00:44:12.859 --> 00:44:13.509
Jon: for sure.
00:44:14.109 --> 00:44:14.749
For sure.
00:44:14.789 --> 00:44:18.659
Like, like Ryan, you said after you
watched this you had to go watch Spinal
00:44:18.659 --> 00:44:20.589
Tap because you needed something lighter.
00:44:21.319 --> 00:44:22.589
After this I went,
00:44:22.600 --> 00:44:22.730
Ryan: Yeah.
00:44:22.869 --> 00:44:23.779
Jon: I went campy.
00:44:23.809 --> 00:44:26.019
I had to go find campy stuff to watch.
00:44:26.469 --> 00:44:28.429
So I watched a movie called Arbor Day
00:44:31.997 --> 00:44:33.227
Kearns: He wanted the
tree scene, that's why
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:38.029
Jon: Our, our Arbor Day is
100% not something we will ever
00:44:38.029 --> 00:44:42.689
cover on this, unless, you know,
probably a Patreon kind of thing.
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.799
It is fantastically
terrible, fantastically campy
00:44:47.447 --> 00:44:51.087
Kearns: We definitely have to do Patreon
for movies that are so bad they're good
00:44:51.583 --> 00:44:51.593
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:44:51.790 --> 00:44:55.610
Ryan: Um, basically the whole Puppet
Master franchise besides the first
00:44:55.610 --> 00:44:57.480
one, which we'll cover later this year
00:44:57.713 --> 00:44:59.433
Kearns: movies were pretty good, yeah.
00:44:59.662 --> 00:45:01.382
Ryan: Uh, the first, the first three.
00:45:01.862 --> 00:45:03.532
The five, first five.
00:45:04.522 --> 00:45:05.272
Retro.
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:05.789
Kearns: 'cause
00:45:05.832 --> 00:45:06.722
Ryan: They're all good
00:45:06.799 --> 00:45:07.099
Kearns: girl.
00:45:07.919 --> 00:45:09.049
like HBO would be on the
00:45:09.309 --> 00:45:13.189
Jon: You went, you went from saying
none of them are good to the first one
00:45:13.189 --> 00:45:18.009
is good, to the first three are good,
to the first five are good, to all of
00:45:18.009 --> 00:45:20.379
them are good in the span of 30 seconds.
00:45:20.638 --> 00:45:21.778
Ryan: That was a cash cow.
00:45:21.968 --> 00:45:22.468
Six was…
00:45:23.903 --> 00:45:24.903
Kearns: on this issue
00:45:26.058 --> 00:45:27.888
Ryan: don't mess with Puppet Master.
00:45:27.998 --> 00:45:28.398
All right
00:45:28.805 --> 00:45:30.865
Kearns: Hey, I got a
question for you guys.
00:45:30.945 --> 00:45:34.255
Effects in this movie compared to
the first ones, we're talking a
00:45:34.495 --> 00:45:38.355
lot of CGI, but this one does have
practical effects too, Evil Dead Rise.
00:45:38.395 --> 00:45:38.415
Jon: No
00:45:39.635 --> 00:45:42.785
Kearns: Did you like the, effects of
this better than the first trilogy?
00:45:44.780 --> 00:45:45.200
Ryan: Hmm.
00:45:45.523 --> 00:45:47.333
Jon: I mean, there, there's a charm,
00:45:47.570 --> 00:45:47.870
Ryan: I…
00:45:48.133 --> 00:45:50.313
Jon: there's a charm in the first ones.
00:45:51.423 --> 00:45:56.953
But I mean, you know, as far as like
splatter and gore, I think these
00:45:56.953 --> 00:45:59.183
are just, this is just as effective
00:45:59.444 --> 00:46:02.884
Kearns: I think I'm more looking at
the makeup than the splatter and gore,
00:46:02.925 --> 00:46:05.985
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:46:05.995 --> 00:46:06.535
Yeah, I,
00:46:06.644 --> 00:46:09.484
Kearns: give Rise its flowers there,
although it does a good job of it
00:46:09.849 --> 00:46:10.199
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:46:10.439 --> 00:46:15.859
the makeup is more, I guess,
realistic would be the way to go
00:46:16.531 --> 00:46:17.551
Ryan: You're having a hard time here.
00:46:18.394 --> 00:46:20.524
Kearns: Oh, we've never had
John on the back foot before
00:46:20.731 --> 00:46:23.871
Ryan: You see, I don't wanna compliment
this movie, but I need… I'm going
00:46:23.903 --> 00:46:25.383
Jon: I, no, I mean,
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:25.540
Kearns: that
00:46:25.693 --> 00:46:26.823
Jon: I g- I, I think
00:46:26.900 --> 00:46:28.780
Kearns: shines the most
is probably the makeup
00:46:29.431 --> 00:46:29.861
Jon: Yeah.
00:46:29.911 --> 00:46:30.221
Yeah.
00:46:30.221 --> 00:46:33.371
Like I, it's, it's a more realistic look.
00:46:33.371 --> 00:46:35.551
It's not the Deadites
you're used to seeing.
00:46:35.551 --> 00:46:39.261
It's not like they're not
melty or gooey or any of that.
00:46:39.271 --> 00:46:44.621
They're, you know, it's, she,
um, Ellie is in particular
00:46:44.621 --> 00:46:48.851
is pretty carved up facially.
00:46:50.035 --> 00:46:50.565
Ryan: Yeah
00:46:52.484 --> 00:46:53.244
Kearns: We, yeah.
00:46:53.534 --> 00:46:53.854
Yep.
00:46:55.043 --> 00:46:55.563
Ryan: But it,
00:46:55.735 --> 00:46:56.405
Jon: Yeah
00:46:56.513 --> 00:46:58.423
Ryan: it doesn't have the
flair of the originals.
00:46:58.633 --> 00:46:59.393
That's the thing.
00:46:59.713 --> 00:47:05.443
It doesn't have like, like I can watch
this and yeah, you can say that's
00:47:05.443 --> 00:47:11.353
a Deadite, you can see any other
film now and see a similar thing.
00:47:11.683 --> 00:47:16.513
But you watch the original trilogy,
especially the first one, she first
00:47:16.513 --> 00:47:20.803
is possessed by the Deadites and
like the granny face in the cellar.
00:47:22.303 --> 00:47:27.323
that's really haunting and that's like no
matter as a kid, adult, when you first see
00:47:27.323 --> 00:47:31.823
that or watching it again, it stays etched
into your mind because it's different
00:47:32.742 --> 00:47:32.942
Kearns: like
00:47:33.187 --> 00:47:33.637
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:47:33.822 --> 00:47:37.352
Kearns: a lot of planning and a lot of
talent and a lot of artistry, and also
00:47:37.352 --> 00:47:42.532
like Q-tips and spray and all that to
make the mask itself back then, to make
00:47:42.532 --> 00:47:44.222
everything look the way they did, the
00:47:44.337 --> 00:47:44.887
Ryan: Love.
00:47:44.917 --> 00:47:45.767
Love went into it
00:47:46.102 --> 00:47:46.812
Kearns: I think I gotta
00:47:46.851 --> 00:47:50.851
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:47:51.022 --> 00:47:52.042
Kearns: the love in Rise.
00:47:52.072 --> 00:47:55.982
I think they did a good job in
Rise, but I would, I give the edge
00:47:56.472 --> 00:47:58.012
to the original personally, but
00:47:58.261 --> 00:47:58.411
Ryan: is
00:47:58.441 --> 00:47:58.801
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:47:58.831 --> 00:47:59.111
Ryan: you.
00:47:59.122 --> 00:47:59.132
Kearns: th-
00:47:59.811 --> 00:48:03.151
Ryan: Rise is a thank you
though, if you wanna say that.
00:48:03.431 --> 00:48:07.461
It's a thank you for like, you know,
thank you for ma- like to Sam Raimi, to
00:48:07.461 --> 00:48:09.351
Bruce Campbell for making these films.
00:48:09.571 --> 00:48:13.031
This is what I'm gonna do to
show like how much I love it.
00:48:13.301 --> 00:48:15.231
And Lee Cronin, you know,
00:48:15.459 --> 00:48:16.049
Jon: I mean,
00:48:16.241 --> 00:48:17.031
Ryan: It's a love letter.
00:48:17.131 --> 00:48:17.531
No?
00:48:17.736 --> 00:48:18.436
Kearns: see that in
00:48:18.621 --> 00:48:18.921
Ryan: No?
00:48:19.631 --> 00:48:19.701
can
00:48:19.999 --> 00:48:20.379
Jon: I mean,
00:48:20.466 --> 00:48:21.116
Kearns: it to be, Ryan.
00:48:21.279 --> 00:48:21.929
Jon: yeah.
00:48:21.946 --> 00:48:21.966
Kearns: if
00:48:22.479 --> 00:48:22.819
Jon: Like Ra- w-
00:48:22.921 --> 00:48:23.751
Ryan: it for it to be
00:48:24.549 --> 00:48:27.659
Jon: Ramy and Campbell are
executive producers on this, so
00:48:27.659 --> 00:48:29.179
it's not like they're not involved
00:48:31.073 --> 00:48:31.813
Ryan: Was Campbell?
00:48:31.903 --> 00:48:32.583
Campbell was?
00:48:32.667 --> 00:48:33.067
Jon: Yeah.
00:48:33.133 --> 00:48:33.293
Ryan: just
00:48:33.337 --> 00:48:36.717
Jon: Yeah, they're bo- both of them
are executive produced this, so it's
00:48:36.717 --> 00:48:40.967
not… It- they're not not involved.
00:48:40.977 --> 00:48:41.887
They're, there.
00:48:41.897 --> 00:48:46.587
It's this, so like, are they
paying homage to themselves?
00:48:46.617 --> 00:48:50.107
Like, did they find someone who
would pay homage to them for them?
00:48:51.547 --> 00:48:55.767
You know, I think there's some element
of, yeah, th- this is what I grew
00:48:55.767 --> 00:48:59.467
up on, and th- I wanna show some
love for it in the writing of it.
00:48:59.477 --> 00:49:04.027
But I think at the end of the
day, this was, uh, you know, the
00:49:04.027 --> 00:49:07.727
opportunity to d- to make an Evil
Dead movie, and they jumped on it
00:49:09.390 --> 00:49:09.760
Kearns: Yeah.
00:49:11.230 --> 00:49:11.840
Yeah.
00:49:12.513 --> 00:49:13.083
Ryan: did help them
00:49:13.380 --> 00:49:14.050
Kearns: your bubble, buddy.
00:49:14.090 --> 00:49:15.860
I don't, Jen, I'm not trying
to be argumentative with you,
00:49:15.860 --> 00:49:17.230
but I just don't, I don't
00:49:17.275 --> 00:49:18.555
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:49:18.555 --> 00:49:19.055
I mean, I mean,
00:49:19.060 --> 00:49:21.630
Kearns: romantic view of
00:49:21.723 --> 00:49:25.483
Jon: I, I, think there are e- there
are people interested in seeing the
00:49:25.483 --> 00:49:30.143
Evil Dead franchise continue, inc-
probably including Raimi and Campbell,
00:49:30.143 --> 00:49:32.263
but they don't wanna do it themselves.
00:49:33.133 --> 00:49:35.333
You know, they moved on to other projects
00:49:35.691 --> 00:49:39.271
Ryan: Wait, you, you don't know
that Raimi basically wrote out the
00:49:39.271 --> 00:49:41.271
whole f- franchise for them, right?
00:49:42.605 --> 00:49:46.585
Jon: I mean, it's there, but, but,
but Cronin's got the screenwriting
00:49:46.585 --> 00:49:48.665
credit on this, not Ca- uh, not Raimi
00:49:49.175 --> 00:49:52.195
Ryan: Yeah, so with the screenwriting,
but the storyline-wise, Ramy's
00:49:52.339 --> 00:49:53.299
Jon: Yeah, I mean,
00:49:53.323 --> 00:49:54.398
Kearns: he sketched it out?
00:49:54.448 --> 00:49:55.508
Yeah, plotted it out.
00:49:55.508 --> 00:49:55.958
Okay.
00:49:56.089 --> 00:50:00.739
Jon: Yeah, but, but like they, like
they, they say they, they, the two of
00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:02.929
them have like moved on to other things.
00:50:02.929 --> 00:50:06.099
I mean, unfortunately for Bruce
at this point it's health.
00:50:06.473 --> 00:50:06.893
Ryan: Yeah
00:50:07.169 --> 00:50:10.229
Jon: you know, Sam Raimi's
moved on to doing other things.
00:50:10.749 --> 00:50:12.609
You know, he got into the superhero money.
00:50:12.609 --> 00:50:14.179
He got into other money.
00:50:14.259 --> 00:50:19.209
He's, you know, he's returned to
some level of horror this year
00:50:19.209 --> 00:50:24.289
with, uh, Send Help, which I haven't
watched yet, but you know, he,
00:50:24.289 --> 00:50:27.349
he's sort of, he- they've moved on.
00:50:28.974 --> 00:50:29.154
Kearns: It
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:29.649
Jon: think this-
00:50:29.704 --> 00:50:30.604
Kearns: kind of another point.
00:50:30.614 --> 00:50:31.664
Oh, I'm sorry, I'll let you finish
00:50:32.273 --> 00:50:35.583
Jon: I think this, if you, if you're
somebody who wants to see more of the
00:50:35.583 --> 00:50:37.793
Evil Dead, this is what you should expect
00:50:39.238 --> 00:50:42.958
Kearns: And that brings us to the next
point, which is perfect segue, Mr. John.
00:50:43.628 --> 00:50:46.748
And that's what, how does it make
you feel that the franchise has
00:50:46.748 --> 00:50:49.868
changed directions this way with
losing the camp and everything?
00:50:49.868 --> 00:50:51.288
We see how Ryan feels about it.
00:50:51.288 --> 00:50:52.878
I think I know how John feels about it.
00:50:53.738 --> 00:50:57.538
Like, what happens when… And d- you
can expand this to any franchise that
00:50:57.538 --> 00:51:00.208
you love and it switches up gears
00:51:00.548 --> 00:51:06.528
Jon: it's funny because something like
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, after the
00:51:06.528 --> 00:51:09.088
first one went more into the camp,
00:51:09.382 --> 00:51:09.722
Ryan: Yes
00:51:09.818 --> 00:51:10.758
Jon: I fell off.
00:51:11.348 --> 00:51:17.558
But this, but Evil Dead moved away from
the camp, and I th- I think I like when it
00:51:17.568 --> 00:51:24.758
stays in that original realm more, which
I, I know is limiting, and it's not how,
00:51:24.908 --> 00:51:27.008
how I, I am with a lot of other things.
00:51:27.008 --> 00:51:30.778
Like authors, I wanna see the
full range of what they can write.
00:51:31.128 --> 00:51:34.548
Musicians, I like, I like
AC/DC, but they've made the
00:51:34.548 --> 00:51:36.608
same album for s- 50 years.
00:51:37.056 --> 00:51:37.486
Ryan: Yeah.
00:51:37.818 --> 00:51:40.838
Jon: You know, I, I want music--
I want bands that are gonna
00:51:40.848 --> 00:51:42.648
be inventive in what they do.
00:51:42.878 --> 00:51:45.298
Still identifiable, but inventive
00:51:46.527 --> 00:51:47.247
Kearns: See what you're saying.
00:51:47.946 --> 00:51:48.646
Ryan: I agree with that
00:51:48.706 --> 00:51:49.316
Jon: Um,
00:51:49.367 --> 00:51:50.957
Kearns: want that blueprint to stay there
00:51:51.016 --> 00:51:54.376
Jon: if you're gonna be a part
of a franchise, I want it to feel
00:51:54.396 --> 00:51:57.016
spiritually like the other ones
00:51:59.110 --> 00:52:02.680
But, you know, at the same time,
like I said, I think if you wanna
00:52:02.680 --> 00:52:05.890
see an Evil Dead movie, this is
what you're gonna have to expect
00:52:06.698 --> 00:52:07.228
Ryan: Gotcha.
00:52:07.923 --> 00:52:08.223
Kearns: Okay.
00:52:09.118 --> 00:52:09.458
Ryan: But
00:52:09.826 --> 00:52:12.086
Jon: I think, I think it's
what you should expect
00:52:12.288 --> 00:52:15.088
Ryan: that bad, a- as long as
it's for the better though,
00:52:15.718 --> 00:52:16.068
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:52:16.298 --> 00:52:16.488
I,
00:52:16.518 --> 00:52:16.948
Ryan: I mean
00:52:17.158 --> 00:52:19.988
Jon: I think he, I think you
should want this to be where
00:52:19.988 --> 00:52:21.138
you go with The Evil Dead.
00:52:21.458 --> 00:52:25.208
I don't think you, unless you're
getting Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell
00:52:25.218 --> 00:52:28.698
back involved, I don't think you
wanna see it go back to the camp
00:52:28.708 --> 00:52:30.838
because nobody's gonna do it as well
00:52:33.697 --> 00:52:34.807
Kearns: Yeah, I was thinking
00:52:35.022 --> 00:52:35.182
Ryan: Yeah.
00:52:35.237 --> 00:52:35.467
Kearns: too.
00:52:35.477 --> 00:52:36.587
Who is out there right now?
00:52:36.637 --> 00:52:37.377
Who would they cast?
00:52:37.377 --> 00:52:38.667
Ryan Reynolds or something?
00:52:38.667 --> 00:52:41.277
Like, who's gonna, who are they
gonna try to get to capture
00:52:41.277 --> 00:52:43.367
Bruce Campbell's ability to play
00:52:43.630 --> 00:52:46.190
Ryan: I should… No, not Ryan Reynolds.
00:52:46.460 --> 00:52:50.700
I mean, no, you can't, you can't,
you can't replace the king, baby
00:52:51.664 --> 00:52:51.794
Jon: A Skarsgård.
00:52:51.794 --> 00:52:52.834
A Scar- a Skarsgård or a Hemsworth
00:52:54.945 --> 00:52:55.035
Kearns: Ugh.
00:52:55.260 --> 00:52:56.360
Ryan: No, no, thank you
00:52:56.715 --> 00:52:57.225
Kearns: realm.
00:52:57.275 --> 00:52:59.985
They need an attractive leading man that
00:53:00.294 --> 00:53:00.724
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:53:00.985 --> 00:53:03.045
Kearns: to have charisma
of that level and that
00:53:03.124 --> 00:53:03.544
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:53:03.545 --> 00:53:05.865
Kearns: kind of free it up and
yuck it up a bit like he did.
00:53:06.614 --> 00:53:07.114
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:53:07.305 --> 00:53:07.875
Kearns: there right now I
00:53:07.914 --> 00:53:08.144
Jon: I,
00:53:08.225 --> 00:53:08.385
Kearns: of
00:53:08.514 --> 00:53:08.734
Jon: and
00:53:08.745 --> 00:53:10.455
Kearns: pull that off or
who'd want to pull that off
00:53:11.220 --> 00:53:13.620
Jon: An unconventionally handsome lead.
00:53:13.950 --> 00:53:18.950
Like not someone who's like Brad Pitt
handsome, but someone who's like, "Hey,
00:53:18.950 --> 00:53:20.800
that guy's good-looking in a weird way."
00:53:22.721 --> 00:53:23.241
Kearns: Yeah.
00:53:23.358 --> 00:53:24.958
Ryan: Oh, Dean from Supernatural
00:53:26.201 --> 00:53:27.131
Kearns: Uh, okay.
00:53:28.450 --> 00:53:29.330
Jon: I'm not seeing that.
00:53:29.330 --> 00:53:30.250
I'm s- that's,
00:53:30.380 --> 00:53:30.700
Ryan: name.
00:53:30.710 --> 00:53:31.120
Dean.
00:53:31.500 --> 00:53:34.870
Jon: that's, that's, I don't remember
wh- one of them is Padalecki.
00:53:34.870 --> 00:53:36.500
I don't remember who the other one is.
00:53:37.110 --> 00:53:41.170
I don't know which one is which, but n-
I mean, they're kind of both too trad-
00:53:41.727 --> 00:53:45.127
Kearns: in my lifetime where I've heard
the women find them hot, and I'm like,
00:53:45.350 --> 00:53:45.780
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:53:46.630 --> 00:53:50.290
They, they, I, uh, they, I think
they're too traditionally attractive
00:53:53.686 --> 00:53:54.326
Ryan: Keys to the car.
00:53:54.446 --> 00:53:55.306
Chicks dig the car
00:53:58.034 --> 00:53:59.024
Jon: Let's take the long ball
00:54:00.025 --> 00:54:02.715
Kearns: But there it is.
00:54:03.155 --> 00:54:03.885
There it is.
00:54:04.025 --> 00:54:04.785
Now we know.
00:54:05.152 --> 00:54:05.962
Ryan: Yeah
00:54:06.855 --> 00:54:10.995
Kearns: We are moving into wood chipper.
00:54:11.675 --> 00:54:11.925
This is
00:54:11.942 --> 00:54:13.092
Jon: The wood chipper.
00:54:13.145 --> 00:54:14.825
Kearns: in a row we get
to discuss a wood chipper.
00:54:14.902 --> 00:54:15.242
Jon: Yeah
00:54:15.426 --> 00:54:15.926
Ryan: Yep.
00:54:17.734 --> 00:54:21.114
Jon: And, and this is the moment
Evil Dead Rise has sunk into…
00:54:21.794 --> 00:54:23.334
Yeah, I mean, it's funnier.
00:54:23.334 --> 00:54:24.594
It's, yeah.
00:54:24.644 --> 00:54:28.724
Um, this is, this is where we've
sunk fully into body horror.
00:54:28.726 --> 00:54:29.106
Ryan: in there
00:54:30.204 --> 00:54:34.964
Jon: We have, we have all, all
the Deadites, the Deadites melded
00:54:34.984 --> 00:54:36.734
together for the wood chipper.
00:54:37.724 --> 00:54:38.854
They've sort of
00:54:39.202 --> 00:54:39.652
Ryan: But it's
00:54:39.734 --> 00:54:41.104
Jon: gooped and melted
00:54:41.193 --> 00:54:44.643
Kearns: than the body horror stuff, 'cause
at that point it's so clearly like, "Oh,
00:54:44.838 --> 00:54:45.318
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:54:46.038 --> 00:54:46.528
Yeah.
00:54:46.818 --> 00:54:47.368
Yeah
00:54:49.183 --> 00:54:49.503
Kearns: Yeah
00:54:51.302 --> 00:54:51.952
Jon: Yeah, yeah.
00:54:52.308 --> 00:54:53.148
Ryan: body horror?
00:54:53.823 --> 00:54:55.463
Kearns: I enjoyed the
wood chipper in this.
00:54:56.202 --> 00:54:56.842
Jon: I did too.
00:54:56.842 --> 00:54:57.302
I mean, uh,
00:54:57.423 --> 00:54:58.183
Kearns: for the kids, 'cause I
00:54:58.312 --> 00:54:58.332
Jon: it
00:54:58.463 --> 00:55:00.713
Kearns: see… They, basically
made it hopeless for the rest
00:55:00.743 --> 00:55:01.743
of the cast throughout this
00:55:01.962 --> 00:55:02.522
Jon: Yeah.
00:55:02.683 --> 00:55:03.143
Kearns: saw a way
00:55:03.202 --> 00:55:03.252
Jon: Y-
00:55:03.333 --> 00:55:04.103
Kearns: gonna win
00:55:04.262 --> 00:55:04.702
Jon: yeah.
00:55:04.902 --> 00:55:09.112
Well, yeah, and, you really get that
when Beth plays the records from the
00:55:09.122 --> 00:55:13.432
end to the beginning to try to figure
out how to stop this, and it clearly
00:55:13.442 --> 00:55:18.522
says, "As long as there's pieces of
them, they will keep coming after you."
00:55:20.734 --> 00:55:22.954
So, wood chipper
00:55:23.385 --> 00:55:24.075
Kearns: It's like, ugh.
00:55:24.095 --> 00:55:28.545
And then of course, that didn't work
wholly because at the end of the movie
00:55:28.545 --> 00:55:32.975
we find that guess who's possessed now?
00:55:34.306 --> 00:55:34.426
Ryan: The
00:55:34.566 --> 00:55:34.936
Jon: Yep.
00:55:35.026 --> 00:55:37.436
Ryan: nice blonde lady who goes
00:55:37.486 --> 00:55:37.926
Jon: I see
00:55:38.306 --> 00:55:41.276
Ryan: with her friends in
the beginning of the film,
00:55:42.226 --> 00:55:43.286
Jon: Yes, that's,
00:55:43.676 --> 00:55:43.856
Ryan: you
00:55:43.866 --> 00:55:45.866
Jon: that is Jessica from the beginning
00:55:48.202 --> 00:55:51.672
Ryan: I, I like that change though,
because like usually you get the opening
00:55:51.672 --> 00:55:56.762
of a, any Evil Dead film where like
right into the book, right into the
00:55:56.762 --> 00:56:01.742
Deadites, and yeah, you get that in the
beginning, but it's like for the viewer.
00:56:01.772 --> 00:56:02.952
It's like different.
00:56:03.412 --> 00:56:04.242
Like, okay, you get the
00:56:04.326 --> 00:56:04.696
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:56:04.792 --> 00:56:05.442
Ryan: stuff, but
00:56:05.676 --> 00:56:06.176
Jon: Mm.
00:56:06.442 --> 00:56:07.952
Ryan: Why is she possessed?
00:56:08.332 --> 00:56:10.412
Like, what's going on?
00:56:10.412 --> 00:56:11.852
And then it builds up from there.
00:56:12.572 --> 00:56:12.772
like
00:56:12.896 --> 00:56:13.376
Jon: Yeah
00:56:13.562 --> 00:56:18.402
Ryan: And that scalping scene,
that, that was, I think, yeah,
00:56:18.402 --> 00:56:20.622
that was, yeah, that was the worst
00:56:20.861 --> 00:56:22.881
Kearns: I've become so
squeamish in my older age.
00:56:23.202 --> 00:56:24.622
Ryan: It, 'cause you see the brain.
00:56:24.682 --> 00:56:27.132
You see her brain popping
from her freaking skull.
00:56:27.141 --> 00:56:32.711
Kearns: ne- like give you an example,
when I watched Hannibal and he takes, um,
00:56:32.892 --> 00:56:33.432
Ryan: Ray Liotta
00:56:33.561 --> 00:56:38.561
Kearns: God, yeah, Ray Liotta's skull
cap and does the little slicey dice and
00:56:38.561 --> 00:56:42.551
throws it on the griddle and whatnot,
it's like I was like fine with that.
00:56:42.571 --> 00:56:44.001
I was like, "Oh man, whoa,
00:56:44.002 --> 00:56:46.182
Ryan: You can tell it's fake though.
00:56:46.542 --> 00:56:48.902
You can tell it-- I feel like you can.
00:56:49.011 --> 00:56:50.501
Kearns: it didn't look fake,
I would've been cool with it
00:56:50.501 --> 00:56:52.211
because I was younger and I didn't
00:56:52.294 --> 00:56:52.674
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:56:53.094 --> 00:56:53.274
There,
00:56:53.291 --> 00:56:53.811
Kearns: about being
00:56:53.844 --> 00:56:54.674
Jon: there's also,
00:56:54.741 --> 00:56:55.011
Kearns: things like
00:56:55.074 --> 00:56:58.384
Jon: there's also a little bit of
camp to that scene, whereas the,
00:56:58.434 --> 00:57:02.554
the scalping in Evil Dead Rise is,
you know, pretty straightforward.
00:57:02.924 --> 00:57:06.444
There's a little bit of
that Hannibal campy in there
00:57:08.033 --> 00:57:10.583
Kearns: Yeah, 'cause he's talking
to him like he's like a third grader
00:57:10.666 --> 00:57:14.866
Jon: All right, so Evil Dead
Rise currently has an 85% critic
00:57:14.866 --> 00:57:18.296
score and a 76% audience score.
00:57:18.486 --> 00:57:20.276
So it's, you know, pretty positive.
00:57:22.106 --> 00:57:27.536
we found a five-star, which goes,
"Mommy's with the maggots now.
00:57:27.866 --> 00:57:31.646
That line epitomizes how
dark this whole film is.
00:57:32.036 --> 00:57:37.206
It misses the humor of the Bruce
Campbell film, but it's still a solid
00:57:37.206 --> 00:57:42.116
release." I'm not sure that's a five-star
review, but that's a five-star review
00:57:42.696 --> 00:57:48.486
Ryan: I would put it more, but I
don't wanna say my review yet, but
00:57:48.516 --> 00:57:51.766
it's like couple stars little lower
00:57:53.477 --> 00:57:54.877
Kearns: I mean, you just said your review.
00:57:54.930 --> 00:57:55.410
Ryan: No, not
00:57:55.756 --> 00:57:55.956
Jon: Eh.
00:57:56.140 --> 00:57:56.600
Ryan: really.
00:57:56.637 --> 00:57:57.027
Kearns: minus
00:57:57.296 --> 00:57:58.286
Jon: Ah, we'll see.
00:57:58.466 --> 00:57:59.086
We'll see
00:57:59.330 --> 00:58:00.340
Ryan: but it's, you know
00:58:00.620 --> 00:58:02.960
Jon: and of course there's
some one-star reviews.
00:58:02.990 --> 00:58:09.040
This one star, "The writing felt more
focused on ideological messaging than
00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:14.880
creating believable characters or a
compelling plot. Social commentary can
00:58:14.890 --> 00:58:20.650
absolutely exist in film, but when it
becomes overt enough to overshadow the
00:58:20.650 --> 00:58:23.480
story, it pulls me out completely."
00:58:25.150 --> 00:58:27.850
And I'm confused as to what
movie this man watched.
00:58:28.083 --> 00:58:29.963
Kearns: what's the social
commentary in Evil Dead
00:58:29.970 --> 00:58:37.170
Jon: The, the only thing, the only thing
that resembles any social commentary
00:58:37.180 --> 00:58:39.270
is Bridget is going to a protest,
00:58:39.352 --> 00:58:39.762
Ryan: Yeah.
00:58:40.540 --> 00:58:42.510
Jon: and it's an environmental protest.
00:58:42.510 --> 00:58:46.060
It's not… It's the least
controversial protest you could have.
00:58:46.212 --> 00:58:47.442
Ryan: like they just want to complain
00:58:47.620 --> 00:58:51.390
Jon: Her s- her sign is the
least controversial sign
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:52.870
you can, you could have.
00:58:53.160 --> 00:58:56.970
You know, make Earth cool again."
But I mean, it, this is sort of
00:58:56.980 --> 00:59:00.630
the problem, is anything that you
don't like is too woke, and that's
00:59:00.630 --> 00:59:04.900
basically where we're getting, is that
somehow this Evil Dead movie is woke.
00:59:05.229 --> 00:59:05.859
Kearns: It is not.
00:59:05.939 --> 00:59:06.529
And then the,
00:59:06.560 --> 00:59:08.040
Jon: It's not even a little.
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:09.019
Kearns: for sure.
00:59:09.029 --> 00:59:13.889
It's, I mean, if you do everything that
is, is progress or different, then yeah,
00:59:13.889 --> 00:59:15.719
I guess that does track with some of these
00:59:15.720 --> 00:59:16.170
Ryan: Oh, it's true.
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:18.039
Kearns: yeah.
00:59:18.490 --> 00:59:19.550
Ryan: Nuance.
00:59:20.650 --> 00:59:21.090
It's like noir.
00:59:23.256 --> 00:59:23.646
Jon: Mm-hmm.
00:59:23.869 --> 00:59:24.119
Kearns: words
00:59:24.166 --> 00:59:24.496
Jon: then,
00:59:24.579 --> 00:59:25.029
Kearns: with M.
00:59:27.006 --> 00:59:30.456
Jon: and then we ha- we have
one more one-star review.
00:59:31.726 --> 00:59:36.876
"Everything about this movie, including
the script, dialogue, acting, and
00:59:36.876 --> 00:59:45.546
directing was bad. Evil Dead Rise is as by
the numbers as it gets, and still manages
00:59:45.576 --> 00:59:49.316
to be bad, even when following a formula."
00:59:50.605 --> 00:59:50.765
Kearns: Mm-hmm.
00:59:51.922 --> 00:59:54.642
Jon: And again, I, I'm not sure
you watched the same movie.
00:59:54.652 --> 00:59:55.692
It's, I mean
00:59:55.860 --> 00:59:58.340
Ryan: Some of these reviewers
get me scared based on their
00:59:58.340 --> 01:00:00.760
opinions, 'cause I feel like, like
01:00:01.007 --> 01:00:01.097
Kearns: The
01:00:01.160 --> 01:00:01.440
Ryan: get it
01:00:01.507 --> 01:00:03.907
Kearns: they a say in our society bothers
01:00:04.120 --> 01:00:04.400
Ryan: Well,
01:00:04.477 --> 01:00:04.897
Kearns: yeah, continue
01:00:05.630 --> 01:00:12.390
Ryan: just like, said this, like, in
our, like, episodes with the whole thing.
01:00:12.390 --> 01:00:16.790
If you- you're going to film school,
you know, you think you have all
01:00:16.790 --> 01:00:20.050
this, like, opinionated and you
think this is how a film should be.
01:00:20.050 --> 01:00:21.780
No, a film can be anything.
01:00:22.680 --> 01:00:24.510
Like, even, like, The Room.
01:00:25.300 --> 01:00:29.560
The Room's a horrible
movie, but it's a fun watch.
01:00:29.830 --> 01:00:30.890
It does what it does
01:00:31.269 --> 01:00:32.949
Kearns: the most horrible movie
01:00:33.366 --> 01:00:34.116
Ryan: Y-yes
01:00:34.569 --> 01:00:35.329
Kearns: done to be good.
01:00:35.329 --> 01:00:36.809
I think that's what makes it shine.
01:00:37.890 --> 01:00:41.440
Ryan: Yes, but it's like people got
the different opinions and that's
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:42.740
what it is, all different opinions.
01:00:42.740 --> 01:00:47.030
When these reviews I feel like are
just shooting the movie down, where
01:00:47.030 --> 01:00:51.160
yeah, like you can be truthful of
it and there is negativity, but
01:00:51.160 --> 01:00:52.680
there's positivity too within it
01:00:54.994 --> 01:00:59.234
Jon: Yeah, I mean, the whole one-star
concept is kind of foreign to me.
01:00:59.734 --> 01:01:04.644
I don't know that I have a single
movie that I would ma- rate as one star
01:01:07.006 --> 01:01:07.506
Ryan: Jump in, Robin
01:01:07.612 --> 01:01:10.182
Jon: I'm not, uh, uh, n- not even that
01:01:10.385 --> 01:01:11.995
Kearns: out there for me and Robin.
01:01:12.338 --> 01:01:16.798
Jon: N- not, not, not even that for
me because it, 'cause it's goofy and
01:01:16.798 --> 01:01:20.768
stupid and you, like, you, if you
watch it in the right circumstances,
01:01:20.768 --> 01:01:22.598
it's, you can have fun watching that.
01:01:22.688 --> 01:01:23.648
It's not good.
01:01:25.063 --> 01:01:25.973
Kearns: mescaline.
01:01:25.973 --> 01:01:25.993
If
01:01:28.828 --> 01:01:29.408
Jon: Yeah.
01:01:29.483 --> 01:01:29.713
Kearns: you
01:01:29.984 --> 01:01:30.274
Ryan: Ooh.
01:01:30.538 --> 01:01:31.228
Jon: Maybe,
01:01:31.253 --> 01:01:31.593
Kearns: it under
01:01:31.618 --> 01:01:31.938
Jon: maybe.
01:01:31.993 --> 01:01:33.613
Kearns: circumstance,
you know what I mean?
01:01:33.838 --> 01:01:34.158
Jon: Yeah.
01:01:34.203 --> 01:01:34.583
Kearns: yeah.
01:01:35.028 --> 01:01:37.878
Jon: The right circumstance, the
right people, the right whatever.
01:01:37.878 --> 01:01:42.888
Like, you can have a… The, I'm,
I'm tr- I wouldn't give, uh, The
01:01:42.888 --> 01:01:44.538
Room's not a one star for me.
01:01:44.608 --> 01:01:45.518
I love The Room.
01:01:45.598 --> 01:01:47.068
I love that stupid movie
01:01:47.743 --> 01:01:49.233
Kearns: Is that it for
reviews or we have more?
01:01:49.597 --> 01:01:51.797
Jon: Well, that's, that's
it for our reviews.
01:01:51.797 --> 01:01:52.597
What about you guys?
01:01:52.923 --> 01:01:54.813
Kearns: Well, we already know Ryan,
so might as well start with you
01:01:55.540 --> 01:01:57.223
Ryan: Well, uh, it's, it's a 3.5.
01:01:57.223 --> 01:02:03.080
It's a 3.5 star, and the reason
why is 'cause it doesn't does a
01:02:03.080 --> 01:02:08.680
nice homage to what in the past,
but it doesn't reach that level.
01:02:09.500 --> 01:02:10.800
It's not Bruce Campbell.
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:11.990
It's not Sam Raimi.
01:02:12.930 --> 01:02:18.030
I think of Evil Dead, I think of
Ash, I think of Raimi, I think of
01:02:18.030 --> 01:02:23.170
this, the craziness, the zaniness,
like, the laughs and the scares.
01:02:24.230 --> 01:02:28.880
This movie did a great job of
scaring the crap out of me, it does
01:02:28.890 --> 01:02:30.680
have that cover of an Evil Dead.
01:02:30.690 --> 01:02:33.240
You see it throughout its veins.
01:02:33.680 --> 01:02:35.650
It just went straight horror.
01:02:36.120 --> 01:02:43.400
And compared to the 2013 version, I think
they did a better, adaptation this time
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:47.970
around than they did of that because I
feel like this one brought a resurgence
01:02:47.990 --> 01:02:54.260
back to the franchise, the 2013 one kinda,
like, started rumblings and then it just
01:02:54.260 --> 01:02:56.290
dropped dead because it was too dark
01:02:59.135 --> 01:02:59.385
Kearns: Okay.
01:02:59.622 --> 01:03:00.002
Jon: Okay
01:03:00.695 --> 01:03:04.845
Kearns: I added a lower number, initially,
and then I take into account just
01:03:04.845 --> 01:03:09.045
how much effort they put into making
it scary, and it is a scary movie.
01:03:09.085 --> 01:03:13.555
so I gave it a three, solid
three just for that reason alone.
01:03:13.555 --> 01:03:16.855
I don't try… I try not to let bias
come in for my love of the original
01:03:16.855 --> 01:03:18.535
trilogy and things like that.
01:03:18.535 --> 01:03:19.925
I know what they were trying to do.
01:03:19.935 --> 01:03:21.695
I know what they pulled
off and what they didn't.
01:03:22.095 --> 01:03:23.735
I just think it's a solid three all around
01:03:24.874 --> 01:03:25.124
Jon: Mm-hmm.
01:03:26.314 --> 01:03:29.044
And I'm gonna wind up
right in between you guys.
01:03:29.614 --> 01:03:31.504
I'm, I'm going 3.25.
01:03:31.714 --> 01:03:31.934
Ryan: aren't
01:03:32.074 --> 01:03:33.494
Jon: And we're… Yeah.
01:03:34.544 --> 01:03:35.634
Uh, let me fluff them.
01:03:35.644 --> 01:03:36.174
Um
01:03:38.634 --> 01:03:43.624
They, like, there are things
that I find to be very effective.
01:03:43.634 --> 01:03:47.814
There's some good scares in here,
the makeup, the effects work.
01:03:49.014 --> 01:03:53.994
But again, like, you s- like, I,
I go back to, my feelings about
01:03:54.094 --> 01:03:55.534
the Dawn of the Dead remake.
01:03:55.534 --> 01:03:56.704
It's the same with this.
01:03:56.744 --> 01:03:59.104
This i- to m- this isn't my Evil Dead.
01:04:00.024 --> 01:04:04.494
if you love those movies, if you love the
remake of Dawn of the Dead, that's fine.
01:04:04.854 --> 01:04:06.204
It's not my Dawn of the Dead.
01:04:06.724 --> 01:04:09.864
If you love Evil Dead Rise, good.
01:04:09.904 --> 01:04:13.814
I'm glad, like, I'm glad people are
finding things they like in horror.
01:04:15.374 --> 01:04:18.554
It, you know, Evil Dead Rise is fine.
01:04:18.604 --> 01:04:20.394
It's a serviceable movie for me.
01:04:20.424 --> 01:04:21.854
It's not anything more, though
01:04:23.465 --> 01:04:23.925
Kearns: Fair enough.
01:04:24.645 --> 01:04:25.555
there you have it, everybody.
01:04:25.555 --> 01:04:26.725
That's Evil Dead Rise.
01:04:26.725 --> 01:04:28.775
We're gonna get into
our top fives right now.
01:04:28.938 --> 01:04:29.658
Ryan: Yeah, we are.
01:04:29.658 --> 01:04:31.218
And I'm flipping it
01:04:31.372 --> 01:04:31.852
Jon: Right meow
01:04:32.238 --> 01:04:32.618
Ryan: meow.
01:04:33.638 --> 01:04:34.138
Did anyone say
01:04:34.446 --> 01:04:38.636
Jon: Don't, don't, don't
f- don't flip anything up.
01:04:39.148 --> 01:04:39.448
Ryan: What do you
01:04:39.486 --> 01:04:40.836
Jon: Just do your top five.
01:04:40.836 --> 01:04:42.366
Nothing flipped up, sir.
01:04:42.608 --> 01:04:44.108
Ryan: But I'm changing it up
01:04:44.256 --> 01:04:45.416
Jon: flip that back down.
01:04:45.648 --> 01:04:46.608
Ryan: I'm changing it up a little
01:04:46.636 --> 01:04:47.896
Jon: Flip that back down.
01:04:48.988 --> 01:04:49.198
Ryan: It's,
01:04:49.216 --> 01:04:49.596
Jon: Nope.
01:04:49.896 --> 01:04:50.286
Nope.
01:04:50.676 --> 01:04:50.886
Nah.
01:04:52.186 --> 01:04:52.696
Top five
01:04:53.091 --> 01:04:53.591
Kearns: Oh, boy
01:04:53.652 --> 01:04:58.872
Ryan: I'm going top five, worst from best,
I'm ranking Evil Dead movies tonight.
01:04:59.995 --> 01:05:00.665
Kearns: Okay
01:05:00.702 --> 01:05:02.802
Ryan: The- and we're
starting off with the worst.
01:05:03.192 --> 01:05:05.022
That's Evil Dead 2013.
01:05:05.712 --> 01:05:06.842
That's why I keep bringing it up.
01:05:07.682 --> 01:05:10.382
and sat in theaters, was very hopeful.
01:05:10.392 --> 01:05:14.122
I was like, "All right, this is Evil Dead.
Let's rock it. They're gonna bring the
01:05:14.122 --> 01:05:18.062
series back." And it doesn't hit the mark.
01:05:18.062 --> 01:05:19.762
I feel like they went too dark.
01:05:20.132 --> 01:05:22.812
I get similar premise to the first one.
01:05:23.142 --> 01:05:28.302
It's supposed to be a remake, it's
just too dark, and you miss that point
01:05:28.334 --> 01:05:28.864
Jon: Yeah.
01:05:28.882 --> 01:05:29.272
Ryan: Dead is.
01:05:29.292 --> 01:05:34.212
Like, even though the original one is
dark, still have, like, lighter moments
01:05:34.212 --> 01:05:36.752
in there, and I think that's because
of the practical effects and that
01:05:36.752 --> 01:05:39.512
it's also college students filming it.
01:05:40.142 --> 01:05:40.592
They're having a
01:05:40.728 --> 01:05:41.178
Jon: And they,
01:05:41.332 --> 01:05:42.012
Ryan: it, and you see it
01:05:42.128 --> 01:05:44.218
Jon: they, they offed a dog
01:05:45.002 --> 01:05:45.282
Ryan: Yeah,
01:05:45.438 --> 01:05:47.068
Jon: in 2013.
01:05:47.808 --> 01:05:51.238
Like, the, the automatic,
automatic points, point deduction.
01:05:52.442 --> 01:05:52.672
Ryan: That was
01:05:52.738 --> 01:05:53.178
Jon: Mm-hmm
01:05:53.752 --> 01:05:57.392
Ryan: Imagine sitting in the theater and
that happens and everyone just goes hush.
01:05:57.772 --> 01:05:58.382
And like,
01:05:58.446 --> 01:05:58.996
Jon: Mm-hmm.
01:05:59.052 --> 01:06:02.402
Ryan: we have like another 50,
40 minutes left of the film."
01:06:02.646 --> 01:06:04.766
Jon: Yeah, like it's not near the end.
01:06:05.162 --> 01:06:05.622
Ryan: it's right at the
01:06:05.656 --> 01:06:07.296
Jon: You know, there's still a ways to go
01:06:08.032 --> 01:06:10.552
Ryan: Uh, it, I mean, yeah, cool scenes.
01:06:10.552 --> 01:06:12.152
I love the, the raining blood.
01:06:12.202 --> 01:06:14.762
But other than that, the worst.
01:06:14.762 --> 01:06:16.052
And that goes to number four.
01:06:16.232 --> 01:06:17.232
We talked about it tonight.
01:06:17.242 --> 01:06:18.472
That's Evil Dead Rise.
01:06:19.102 --> 01:06:20.442
It's right there at the number four.
01:06:20.472 --> 01:06:23.512
I, I can't, you know, maybe it'll stay.
01:06:23.892 --> 01:06:25.222
It's never gonna go up.
01:06:25.982 --> 01:06:28.472
I wanna see Burn before I can
make an assumption on that,
01:06:28.522 --> 01:06:29.792
Which goes to number three.
01:06:30.042 --> 01:06:31.532
That's the original Evil Dead.
01:06:32.102 --> 01:06:35.862
It's right in the middle because it
started it, but it was kinda getting
01:06:35.862 --> 01:06:37.882
its grou- that groundwork, you know?
01:06:38.302 --> 01:06:41.142
It was the beginning and
you can see it developing.
01:06:41.472 --> 01:06:46.572
And that goes to number two, where
I feel is the real start of the Evil
01:06:46.582 --> 01:06:50.912
Dead of, as we know it, and that's
Evil Dead II, original requel.
01:06:51.232 --> 01:06:55.882
'Cause yeah, it starts off right at
the end of the first one, but they
01:06:55.892 --> 01:06:59.362
retcon the first one because of
legal rights and all that with Sam
01:06:59.362 --> 01:07:02.262
Raimi and not owning the first one.
01:07:02.262 --> 01:07:06.722
So the best thing he did is do
a requel, and it leads to one of
01:07:06.722 --> 01:07:11.122
the best Evil Dead movies of all
time, and that's Army of Darkness.
01:07:11.282 --> 01:07:12.422
Hail to the king, baby.
01:07:12.742 --> 01:07:14.422
Boom stick, chainsaws.
01:07:14.451 --> 01:07:15.871
Kearns: I have the best
one for catchphrases
01:07:16.092 --> 01:07:16.742
Ryan: Oh, God.
01:07:16.762 --> 01:07:21.822
I, you know, as a kid, like my uncle
would tell me, "If you have to watch
01:07:21.822 --> 01:07:25.182
any of the Evil Deads, just start with
Army of Darkness." And that would…
01:07:25.315 --> 01:07:25.535
Kearns: still
01:07:27.062 --> 01:07:28.182
Ryan: It's so good.
01:07:28.372 --> 01:07:33.972
And that's like kinda like is the movie
that really, definitely like Evil Dead
01:07:33.972 --> 01:07:38.442
starts it, Evil Dead II picks up steam,
and then Army of Darkness makes it a
01:07:38.442 --> 01:07:41.342
sensation to what we know it is today
01:07:41.592 --> 01:07:41.942
Jon: Mm-hmm.
01:07:44.993 --> 01:07:45.183
Kearns: Fair
01:07:45.218 --> 01:07:46.088
Ryan: So, so that
01:07:46.192 --> 01:07:46.562
Jon: Yeah.
01:07:47.173 --> 01:07:47.543
Kearns: Right
01:07:47.612 --> 01:07:47.962
Jon: Yeah
01:07:48.353 --> 01:07:48.793
Kearns: All right.
01:07:49.113 --> 01:07:51.093
Cool, cool concept for the top five too.
01:07:51.178 --> 01:07:51.738
Ryan: See?
01:07:51.823 --> 01:07:52.063
Kearns: to best.
01:07:52.358 --> 01:07:53.078
Ryan: You guys liked it
01:07:53.496 --> 01:07:53.746
Jon: Mm-hmm.
01:07:53.923 --> 01:07:54.453
Kearns: We did.
01:07:54.453 --> 01:07:56.023
I loved how long it took you too.
01:07:56.023 --> 01:07:57.803
It was like your fastest top five ever.
01:07:58.596 --> 01:07:59.116
Ryan: prepared.
01:07:59.293 --> 01:07:59.493
Kearns: part.
01:07:59.963 --> 01:08:00.313
Nice.
01:08:00.552 --> 01:08:02.622
Jon: me plenty of room to spread out.
01:08:02.953 --> 01:08:03.513
Kearns: All right,
01:08:03.636 --> 01:08:04.156
Ryan: Go John
01:08:04.373 --> 01:08:04.773
Kearns: what you're gonna
01:08:04.872 --> 01:08:05.892
Jon: Ah.
01:08:06.682 --> 01:08:07.052
All right.
01:08:07.062 --> 01:08:14.862
So I went with top five, or five
other evil books in horror movies.
01:08:15.339 --> 01:08:16.019
Kearns: Nice
01:08:16.522 --> 01:08:21.002
Jon: Necronomicon makes a lot of
appearances on this list anyway, but,
01:08:21.702 --> 01:08:26.272
um, so my number five is the movie
Evil Speak, and the book is the Libro
01:08:26.272 --> 01:08:29.312
Mortis, which is the Book of the Dead.
01:08:29.832 --> 01:08:36.672
Um, so a bullied military school cadet,
played by the superior Howard, Clint,
01:08:37.131 --> 01:08:37.491
Kearns: Hmm.
01:08:37.652 --> 01:08:41.112
Jon: stumbles upon a way
to make his tormentors pay.
01:08:41.362 --> 01:08:46.852
He has found the Book of the Dead, which
used to belong to the evil Father Esteban.
01:08:47.472 --> 01:08:53.632
Um, so he uses the book and his computer
to conjure Satan and take his revenge
01:08:55.723 --> 01:08:58.413
Kearns: I just have to plug the other
Howard real quick, Cinderella Man.
01:08:58.453 --> 01:09:02.623
I watched it again the other day, and oh
my God, what a masterpiece that movie is.
01:09:02.623 --> 01:09:05.373
Ron Howard-directed masterpiece.
01:09:05.593 --> 01:09:05.793
So
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:06.390
Jon: No, Ron,
01:09:06.723 --> 01:09:07.193
Kearns: a nod
01:09:07.380 --> 01:09:09.410
Jon: Ron Howard has made
a lot of good movies.
01:09:09.410 --> 01:09:09.920
I like…
01:09:09.926 --> 01:09:10.436
Ryan: yes.
01:09:10.580 --> 01:09:11.780
Jon: there's something about Clint.
01:09:11.940 --> 01:09:13.710
Clint is m- Clint is my guy
01:09:13.946 --> 01:09:14.886
Ryan: The ice cream man
01:09:16.622 --> 01:09:18.262
Jon: Ice cream man ticks
01:09:19.023 --> 01:09:20.913
Kearns: Yeah, Clint's
been in a lot of great
01:09:21.122 --> 01:09:21.982
Ryan: Seinfeld.
01:09:23.013 --> 01:09:24.333
Kearns: Adam Sandler movies too.
01:09:24.762 --> 01:09:24.952
Jon: Mm-hmm
01:09:25.082 --> 01:09:25.362
Ryan: yeah
01:09:25.443 --> 01:09:27.663
Kearns: your, what's your
four or your next one?
01:09:28.652 --> 01:09:32.682
Jon: my number four, we're gonna go
to the Necronomicon, and it appears
01:09:32.712 --> 01:09:35.822
in Night of the Demons Part II.
01:09:36.322 --> 01:09:36.682
Ryan: Ooh.
01:09:37.782 --> 01:09:38.422
Jon: Yeah.
01:09:38.622 --> 01:09:38.712
Ryan: the
01:09:38.732 --> 01:09:41.872
Jon: Six years after the
horror… Oh, I'm gonna tell you.
01:09:42.172 --> 01:09:46.392
Six years after the horrors
of Hull House, Angela's body
01:09:46.392 --> 01:09:48.392
has still not been recovered.
01:09:48.822 --> 01:09:52.462
Her sister, Mouse, is invited
to a party at the house
01:09:52.492 --> 01:09:55.212
because kids just never learn.
01:09:55.972 --> 01:10:01.472
Um, the others try to prank her by reading
from the book, and instead they awake a
01:10:01.652 --> 01:10:09.362
very angry Angela, um, dooming most of
the teen partygoers and repeating history
01:10:13.325 --> 01:10:13.865
Kearns: Fair enough.
01:10:14.165 --> 01:10:14.895
I like that one.
01:10:15.745 --> 01:10:16.915
Forgot that it's in that movie
01:10:18.456 --> 01:10:18.996
Jon: Oh, shoot.
01:10:19.406 --> 01:10:22.006
We gotta do a little cutting
in here because I meant to ask
01:10:22.006 --> 01:10:23.236
you how to pronounce something.
01:10:25.126 --> 01:10:27.256
E-I-B-O-N
01:10:28.328 --> 01:10:29.448
Ryan: E-I-B-O-N.
01:10:30.198 --> 01:10:30.678
Ebon?
01:10:30.728 --> 01:10:30.958
iPod?
01:10:30.958 --> 01:10:31.298
Ebon.
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:32.320
Jon: IBAN,
01:10:32.388 --> 01:10:32.818
Ryan: Ebon.
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:33.360
Jon: IBAN,
01:10:33.531 --> 01:10:33.951
Kearns: yeah,
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:34.380
Jon: IBAN.
01:10:34.700 --> 01:10:35.080
Okay
01:10:35.081 --> 01:10:35.281
Kearns: I would do it
01:10:35.538 --> 01:10:36.078
Ryan: Ibond
01:10:41.419 --> 01:10:42.449
Kearns: Are you waiting
for me to look it up?
01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:44.550
Jon: I mean, I'm, I am too
01:10:44.669 --> 01:10:47.329
Kearns: is both
pronunciations seem to work.
01:10:47.329 --> 01:10:52.909
It says Ibon rhymes with tie on, so Ibon
or Ebon, which is exactly what we said.
01:10:53.580 --> 01:10:54.390
Ryan: What's the,
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:54.829
Kearns: nice.
01:10:55.060 --> 01:10:56.370
Ryan: what's the background of the movie?
01:10:57.169 --> 01:10:57.879
Kearns: gonna, you're gonna
01:10:58.086 --> 01:10:59.226
Jon: You're about to get it
01:10:59.269 --> 01:10:59.369
Kearns: here,
01:10:59.510 --> 01:11:01.660
Ryan: then that would get
you your pronunciation
01:11:01.879 --> 01:11:02.479
Kearns: question.
01:11:04.998 --> 01:11:07.178
Jon: So we're going Eibon or Ebon?
01:11:07.578 --> 01:11:07.678
Eibon?
01:11:07.819 --> 01:11:07.939
Kearns: I
01:11:08.094 --> 01:11:09.494
Ryan: I, I bought, you bought?
01:11:09.538 --> 01:11:09.968
Jon: Ebon?
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:10.609
Kearns: whole life
01:11:10.848 --> 01:11:11.308
Jon: Ebon.
01:11:11.318 --> 01:11:14.088
That, that's how I've always read
it, but I wanted to make sure.
01:11:14.098 --> 01:11:16.648
I don't do well with
pronunciation of words like that.
01:11:16.688 --> 01:11:17.128
Okay,
01:11:17.851 --> 01:11:18.041
Kearns: That's
01:11:18.088 --> 01:11:18.858
Jon: back to list.
01:11:20.078 --> 01:11:26.178
So my number three is gonna be the rare
appearance of an Italian horror movie,
01:11:26.178 --> 01:11:31.728
and it's The Beyond, and the Book of
Eibon is the evil book in this one.
01:11:32.148 --> 01:11:37.798
Um, so this is the second movie
in Lucio Fulci's Gates of Hell
01:11:37.798 --> 01:11:43.178
trilogy, and in this one, a woman
inherits a Louisiana hotel where many
01:11:43.178 --> 01:11:45.498
supernatural accidents have occurred.
01:11:46.098 --> 01:11:51.388
Unfortunately for her, the hotel
sits atop one of the gates to hell,
01:11:51.848 --> 01:11:56.348
which had been opened previously
by the reading of the Book of Eibon
01:11:57.725 --> 01:12:02.345
Kearns: Um, and Book of Eibon goes
all the way back to Lovecraft.
01:12:02.345 --> 01:12:03.775
I forget which story though
01:12:04.536 --> 01:12:05.446
Ryan: So I do have a
01:12:05.794 --> 01:12:06.194
Jon: I do.
01:12:06.194 --> 01:12:06.624
And
01:12:06.857 --> 01:12:07.287
Kearns: What's your question?
01:12:07.756 --> 01:12:10.406
Ryan: How is it connected to
Hou-- I'm reading it real quick.
01:12:10.406 --> 01:12:12.186
How is it connected to
House of the Cemetery?
01:12:12.196 --> 01:12:13.156
'Cause I love that film.
01:12:14.276 --> 01:12:15.276
Like, how is it, like,
01:12:15.394 --> 01:12:15.614
Jon: I,
01:12:15.656 --> 01:12:16.476
Ryan: just the theme?
01:12:16.486 --> 01:12:17.216
Like when
01:12:17.584 --> 01:12:18.544
Jon: it's, it's,
01:12:18.636 --> 01:12:18.896
Ryan: his
01:12:18.964 --> 01:12:25.144
Jon: it's thematically, it,
it's more thematic than direct
01:12:25.196 --> 01:12:26.226
Ryan: Fucci's good.
01:12:26.716 --> 01:12:27.316
He's really good.
01:12:27.316 --> 01:12:27.486
He's a
01:12:27.494 --> 01:12:28.514
Jon: Yeah, I like Fulci.
01:12:28.524 --> 01:12:31.944
He's a, he d- he's got a lot of… Yep.
01:12:32.354 --> 01:12:39.294
Um, so my number two, we go back to
the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis, and it's a
01:12:39.294 --> 01:12:41.314
movie that's actually come up tonight.
01:12:41.516 --> 01:12:41.836
Ryan: Jason
01:12:42.054 --> 01:12:44.604
Jon: two is Jason Goes to Hell.
01:12:44.686 --> 01:12:45.426
Ryan: Yes
01:12:46.424 --> 01:12:52.664
Jon: so Jason returns this time 100% more
occult than the previous eight movies.
01:12:54.186 --> 01:12:54.786
Ryan: Possession
01:12:54.894 --> 01:13:00.784
Jon: now th- now the spirit of Jason can
jump bodies and needs to find a member
01:13:00.794 --> 01:13:03.854
of his bloodline to be fully resurrected.
01:13:04.394 --> 01:13:09.004
And of course, the Necronomicon
is required, so it's an
01:13:09.004 --> 01:13:10.044
Evil Dead movie, right?
01:13:10.914 --> 01:13:11.684
Ryan: There's a connection.
01:13:11.804 --> 01:13:13.084
There's a rumor.
01:13:13.524 --> 01:13:16.854
There is a rumor with this that
Jason is actually a Deadite.
01:13:17.104 --> 01:13:18.524
Because you
01:13:18.722 --> 01:13:19.322
Jon: Yeah.
01:13:19.322 --> 01:13:20.012
I mean
01:13:20.134 --> 01:13:25.214
Ryan: how does he tr- like, his heart,
he's gotta move his heart get and,
01:13:25.354 --> 01:13:27.494
like, put inside the person through the
01:13:27.718 --> 01:13:31.368
Jon: You're trying to make, you're trying
to make sense of Jason Goes to Hell.
01:13:31.372 --> 01:13:32.992
Ryan: Jason, it's Evil Dead
01:13:33.718 --> 01:13:38.458
Jon: Ja- Jason Goes to Hell also sets
up the Freddy and Jason crossover as
01:13:38.508 --> 01:13:45.778
at the end it's a very Freddy-esque
bladed glove that pulls Jason to hell
01:13:45.994 --> 01:13:48.444
Ryan: Oh, that wa- that
was 100% Freddy's glove.
01:13:48.484 --> 01:13:49.194
But do you know who
01:13:49.344 --> 01:13:49.604
Jon: Mm-hmm.
01:13:49.734 --> 01:13:50.224
Ryan: the glove?
01:13:51.204 --> 01:13:51.534
Jon: No.
01:13:51.674 --> 01:13:52.344
Ryan: Kane Hodder
01:13:54.964 --> 01:13:55.464
Jon: Okay.
01:13:55.874 --> 01:13:55.884
Ryan: Keanu
01:13:56.074 --> 01:13:56.804
Jon: Interesting.
01:13:58.374 --> 01:13:58.964
Mm-hmm
01:14:00.663 --> 01:14:01.563
Kearns: Technically
01:14:02.370 --> 01:14:07.950
Jon: listen, there's no bigger sin in
Freddy versus Jason than Jason is not Kane
01:14:07.990 --> 01:14:12.040
Hodder, but that's a topic for another
time because we have to go to number one.
01:14:12.580 --> 01:14:15.430
And my number one, my
number one is a twofer.
01:14:16.500 --> 01:14:25.630
It- the first one is 1932, the second
one is 1999, and it's The Mummy, The
01:14:25.630 --> 01:14:28.380
Book of Thoth, and The Book of the Dead.
01:14:28.660 --> 01:14:36.360
In both 1932 and 1999, a book sets in
motion the return of a vicious mummy,
01:14:36.360 --> 01:14:42.950
Imhotep, set on reconnecting with his lost
love and destroying anyone in his way.
01:14:43.390 --> 01:14:47.450
Whether it's Boris Karloff as
a mummy or Brendan Fraser as an
01:14:47.450 --> 01:14:51.320
American leading an expedition,
you can't go wrong with The Mummy
01:14:51.616 --> 01:14:57.306
Ryan: I am so happy you mentioned
the 1932 one, 'cause the '32
01:14:57.306 --> 01:14:58.636
one doesn't get as much flowers.
01:14:58.636 --> 01:15:04.366
I feel the '99 one takes it over because
it's more adventure and it does the
01:15:04.366 --> 01:15:06.126
story of, I think, a little bit better.
01:15:06.836 --> 01:15:07.316
But the
01:15:07.373 --> 01:15:11.423
Kearns: Uh, uh, I mean, so many people
of our age group loved the '90s one,
01:15:11.554 --> 01:15:12.134
Jon: Mm-hmm.
01:15:12.418 --> 01:15:13.308
Ryan: of course.
01:15:13.584 --> 01:15:14.474
Jon: I mean, the nine
01:15:16.048 --> 01:15:19.198
Ryan: you gotta have the '30s
one, and then even the Hammer
01:15:19.198 --> 01:15:21.168
one, which is a remake of it too
01:15:22.982 --> 01:15:27.922
Jon: But, but listen, this, it is kind of
a, a losing battle with movies like that.
01:15:28.312 --> 01:15:29.512
They're gonna get forgotten.
01:15:29.512 --> 01:15:31.712
They're gonna get underrated because
01:15:31.906 --> 01:15:32.326
Ryan: Yeah
01:15:33.062 --> 01:15:39.042
Jon: who saw, who saw The Mum-
the first Mummy in theaters?
01:15:39.332 --> 01:15:39.432
Ryan: Oh.
01:15:39.882 --> 01:15:41.052
Oh, 99
01:15:42.416 --> 01:15:43.936
Jon: No, the 1932.
01:15:44.266 --> 01:15:45.586
Who saw that in theaters?
01:15:46.182 --> 01:15:46.542
Ryan: Definitely
01:15:46.626 --> 01:15:48.126
Jon: can still talk about it?
01:15:48.483 --> 01:15:48.813
Kearns: Yeah
01:15:49.786 --> 01:15:52.616
Jon: The people who s- who, the
people who saw it in theaters,
01:15:52.946 --> 01:15:55.366
the youngest is nearing 100
01:15:57.249 --> 01:15:58.369
Kearns: Yeah, fair.
01:15:58.864 --> 01:15:58.874
Jon: Eh.
01:15:59.274 --> 01:16:02.614
So those things just get forgotten
because you didn't experience,
01:16:02.674 --> 01:16:04.104
experience it firsthand.
01:16:04.344 --> 01:16:07.044
We've all experienced 1999 Mummy
01:16:07.522 --> 01:16:08.092
Ryan: Yes.
01:16:08.513 --> 01:16:08.933
Kearns: As with
01:16:09.052 --> 01:16:09.592
Ryan: Hopefully
01:16:09.733 --> 01:16:14.463
Kearns: produce other successors and stuff
like that, people included, eventually
01:16:14.853 --> 01:16:18.583
the things that you leave behind or
the thing that makes you special is
01:16:18.583 --> 01:16:21.013
seen in those other works later on.
01:16:21.013 --> 01:16:27.483
So whatever comes out in 20, you know,
205 that's inspired by The Mummy from
01:16:27.493 --> 01:16:33.503
1999, which took its inspiration partially
from The Mummy from 1932 or whatever it
01:16:33.513 --> 01:16:37.913
was, like you have to keep that in mind
'cause eventually all things lead there
01:16:38.978 --> 01:16:41.758
Ryan: But we do have a
positive though, because…
01:16:41.873 --> 01:16:42.613
Kearns: that was positive
01:16:42.898 --> 01:16:47.098
Ryan: Well, no, even more to add to
your positive is Gen Z is getting
01:16:47.098 --> 01:16:52.708
more into physical copies and a lot of
older movies, and they wanna experience
01:16:52.758 --> 01:16:57.238
the past more, and they want to, like
for people who love film, they wanna
01:16:57.238 --> 01:16:59.808
see what's the big buildup of it.
01:16:59.938 --> 01:17:03.058
So they're going through the history
of film and watching film, and they're
01:17:03.108 --> 01:17:06.758
enjoying the older films more than
what they're seeing today, and that's
01:17:06.758 --> 01:17:09.078
a big positive to add to that positive.
01:17:09.378 --> 01:17:10.138
Builds off of it
01:17:11.878 --> 01:17:12.081
Jon: I mean, we've, we've talked
about it before, some of the
01:17:12.081 --> 01:17:12.248
challenges this generation is
gonna have with older movies.
01:17:12.248 --> 01:17:13.308
The, you
01:17:18.878 --> 01:17:20.578
know, the beats are different.
01:17:21.568 --> 01:17:26.188
You know, you, why, you, you know, it
used to be you'd get the action scene
01:17:26.188 --> 01:17:32.228
and then, like, 10 to 15 minutes of, you
know, plot, and then the big action scene.
01:17:32.238 --> 01:17:37.258
Now that, that's getting compressed 'cause
that's the, where the attention spans
01:17:37.258 --> 01:17:38.998
are, and you need to keep that together.
01:17:38.998 --> 01:17:43.158
We're, you know, right now
we're a, a very TikTok society
01:17:45.217 --> 01:17:45.667
Kearns: Pressing.
01:17:45.667 --> 01:17:48.427
All right, this is gonna wrap up
the episode for tonight, everybody.
01:17:49.197 --> 01:17:50.567
TikTok, bad.
01:17:51.867 --> 01:17:53.227
Evil Dead Rise, good?
01:17:54.050 --> 01:17:54.890
Ryan: It's fifty-fifty
01:17:55.587 --> 01:17:56.037
Kearns: Yeah, we'll go
01:17:56.184 --> 01:17:58.114
Jon: Evil De- Evil Dead Rise is okay
01:17:59.363 --> 01:17:59.673
Kearns: All right.
01:18:00.393 --> 01:18:01.813
that's it for us tonight, everybody.
01:18:01.813 --> 01:18:02.613
We'll see you next week
01:18:03.230 --> 01:18:04.600
Ryan: All right, have a good one, guys.
01:18:06.598 --> 01:18:06.988
Jon: The year